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Sept. 7, 2017 - Sean Hannity Show

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	All right, glad you're with us on what is a busy, busy what are you doing back there?
	You're not in your official seat.
	It's this is disorienting to me.
	Do you mind sitting in your official seat?
	Now bad enough.
	No, not you.
	I don't want to look at you.
	I am doing something very important right now.
	Do you know what I'm doing?
	No, not really.
	What?
	I'm making coffee.
	Making coffee.
	Do you have to say it with a quif and the coffee and New York and talk and I mean, is it really?
	I want to be alert away for what you're about to tell me.
	You have no idea how anybody asked me, wow, she's got a thick New York accent.
	I'm like, you think?
	Yeah, it's pretty thick.
	Shocking.
	Uh we've got a lot we got a lot to get to.
	Stop.
	You got I'm trying to do a show.
	Do you mind, Jason?
	You don't have access to put that in my ear every second.
	This is not okay.
	All right.
	Bigger, faster, stronger.
	That's how they are now describing Hurricane Irma and the storm.
	It looks like the track has shifted somewhat now towards the southeastern part of Florida.
	It was headed to the southwestern part, exactly where I live.
	And by the way, I d I don't want anybody to get hit.
	All of Florida, Southern Florida, and Middle Florida is going to get whacked and whacked hard.
	Broward County now, Floridians are being ordered out.
	And I just hope we don't have a mayor like in Houston saying, No, go back to your homes.
	Don't listen to the experts.
	Go back to your homes.
	Which was a pretty the only dumb thing that I saw that happened in Houston.
	Everybody else was actually great.
	Um I talked to my White House contacts today.
	What?
	You talk to the White House?
	Not like people think.
	Not like people.
	Oh, Hannity, he's doing the president's bidding.
	Did anyone ever read my 2014 conservative solution caucus?
	How long have I been talking about the economy, balancing the budget, tax cuts for the middle class, tax cuts, uh living within your means for corporations?
	How long have I talked about energy independence, health savings accounts, health care cooperatives?
	Poor Josh Umber, I put on the show for six years, and we got nothing out of health care.
	Uh energy independence, all the above.
	Education, back to the state, school choice, building the border wall first.
	How many times?
	And people's and I'm like, there's a conservative that supports a conservative agenda.
	That's why I'm just scratching my conservative head saying, what's wrong with you Republicans?
	You're all pathetic.
	Anyway, we have a lot to get to today.
	We will hit North Korea, which is getting more dangerous by the day.
	I think this is going to be the best debate we've ever had.
	We started it last week.
	Katie Hopkins, the gobby one, and Heraldo are going to debate DACA today.
	We've got an update on Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Luke Rosiak, the investigative reporter from the Daily Caller.
	You're not going to believe this news about Debbie Wasserman Schultz and how this guy uh Imwa Ron uh who actually put out a note to special counsel to get out there or to the federal government to get out there and and look at the laptop of Debbie Wasserman Schultz and he put it in a place where they can find it.
	So we'll get into all that today.
	I got a note from Jamie Dupree just a few minutes before airtime today.
	You know, a lot of people ask me, where's Jamie?
	Jamie has had For I guess the last year and a half, two years now.
	Um, which is the worst thing if you work in radio.
	Jamie's been one of the greatest broadcasters I've ever known all my life and career.
	Thank God he doesn't have significant health issues.
	He only has voice issues.
	Now, if you work in radio, that's a big deal.
	And is for whatever reason his vocal cords kind of froze.
	This happened to a guy that I know in Huntsville.
	Same thing happened.
	And, you know, you when you really think about it, those of us that talk for a living, it's kind of take it for granted that your vocal cords are going to work every day.
	I met a guy over the weekend that had an operation, and they literally for the back of his neck, they had to operate through the vocal cords, uh, which is extremely dangerous.
	I think Russia at one point was facing the same exact operation.
	I mean, that's really scary.
	If you if you rush Limbaugh, that's really scary.
	Um, so uh Jamie is a great friend of the program.
	He will be with us forever because he keeps sending us information.
	I probably don't mention his name enough.
	And uh he's I'm gonna say keep him in your thoughts and prayers, but he's healthy.
	He's fine, his family's fine.
	He works with us just the way he used to, except we don't hear his voice and him sticking it to me every day with him trying to be a journalist and me trying to get out of him whether he's a liberal or conservative.
	And we do miss his voice on the program, but he's a big part of the show every day and gives us information we pass along.
	He writes me earlier, he says I can't tell you how weird it is on Capitol Hill.
	He writes, first the Trump actions on DACA are making a lot of people think that he wants the Congress to pass a bill that legalizes the dreamers, and that is making many Republicans nervous.
	Why can't these people embrace doing their job?
	What is so hard about the conservative solution caucus that I laid out in 2014?
	I was begging those guys to turn that into a contract with America.
	Begging them, saying this will get you elected.
	This, and then if you solve people's problems, that's good politics.
	Doing nothing makes people mad.
	And for all the talk about the president's approval ratings, well, has anyone looked at Mr. 18% Mitch McConnell?
	Because people have figured out in his home state that he's frankly useless and pathetic and lazy and spineless and without a backbone and can't keep a promise.
	And then when he made that awful come, well, the expectations were so high, you know, after seven and a half years to expect that we're gonna get done something, you know, bigger uh repealing and replacing Obamacare is just wrong.
	Uh you know, those expectations were put way out of whack.
	Obviously, the president's not used to how the parliamentary procedures of of the Senate work here, because if they worked any better, you know, first we have to have our we have to get up late, we work out in the Senate gym, and then we go have a Senate lunch in the Senate dining room, and then we sit around and smoke a cigar, and then after cigar time, then we have a cocktail, and then after cocktail, we might talk for a little bit about the people, and then we we're exhausted, and then we go back and we we have our appetizers and we have dinner and then it's drinking till three in the morning, and then we get up and start it all over again.
	I read that's the way things have been working around here for years.
	Why should Donald Trump be able to shake that whole thing up?
	Sorry, that's the swamp.
	Well, Hannity's a Republican.
	Yeah, they're pathetic.
	Just pathetic.
	You know, it's interesting.
	I'm watching this race going on with Luther, whatever his name is down in Alabama, and I had supported Mo Brooks.
	You know what's funny?
	There was an article.
	Did you see the article saying Hannity only supports losers?
	Meanwhile, uh, did anyone remember that I predicted Trump would win?
	Here's what I do do.
	I definitely go for the biggest underdogs possible sometimes to make a point.
	And I think I'm gonna do that down in Alabama.
	Because I think Judge Moore is not gonna be somebody that's gonna bend to Mitch McConnell in the leadership.
	I really don't.
	Well, do you ever disagree with Trump?
	Yeah, I supported Mo Brooks.
	There, I have disagreement.
	Well, what about trade, Hannity?
	I thought you were free.
	I am a free trader.
	I believe in free and fair trade.
	And I've always said at the end of the day, I don't think Donald Trump wants a trade war.
	I hope he doesn't, because protectionism's never gonna work.
	But I do want countries that are charging exorbitant amounts for American-made products to get into their countries, and they don't pay anything to get into our country.
	I want them to play by the rules.
	And pressuring them to do so is just good negotiating style.
	Anyway, so um so Jamie goes on about DACA.
	Here's what the brilliant thing about Trump stood by his campaign promise.
	He stood by the principle of the Constitution and the rule of law on DACA.
	And he's not going to usurp the responsibilities of Congress the way Obama the way Obama did.
	Obama said some twenty times that he didn't have the authority for DACA, that we're a nation of laws that were governed by a constitution, and that didn't stop him.
	And the president recognizes we have co-equal branches of government, each with enumerated powers, and it's up to the legislative branch to legislate.
	And just because, as Obama said, you don't like a piece of legislation, you still have to enforce the law.
	And if they want the law change, well, you can thank the president because he's given them eight months since he's been in office, and now he's given them an additional six months to get their act together and do it legally and constitutionally.
	And he gave them six months to get it together.
	That's their job.
	That's what they're supposed to do.
	So, and then there a little bit, apparently the leadership was taken by surprise over the move by Trump today to combine Harvey aid with a three-month temporary budget, in other words, and a short-term debt limit increase.
	Listen, I would like to, I'm the guy that's been pushing the penny plan as a solution to stop robbing for our kids from years.
	I don't like the debt any more than you do.
	But we all know that the debt ceiling is going to get raised.
	The question is, are we going to grow the economy?
	As I've been saying, the challenge for Republicans the next 14 weeks is very clear.
	They're either going to step up and take ownership of getting this economy in order.
	They've asked for the House, they got it.
	They asked for the Senate in the House, they got it.
	They got the White House, although half of them can't stand the president, which is pathetic on their part.
	Just tell me what part of his agenda you don't like.
	I'd like to know.
	What part of it isn't conservative, what part of it isn't good.
	Because I think seven brackets to three is good for the American people.
	I think middle class tax cuts are good for those people that work hard, play by the rules, pay their taxes, obey the laws, create all the goods and services that make this country great.
	They deserve some relief.
	Then I think you the reason you want low corporate rates is because corporations have all the big bucks, and you want them to build in Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, and in Pennsylvania and in Pittsburgh and North Carolina, Missouri and Florida, and the rest of the country.
	And if they build factories and manufacturing centers, then lo and behold, the forgotten men and women benefit.
	And they have career jobs that will help them buy their first house home ownership rates at a 51-year low.
	It'll increase GDP.
	Obama's the first president in history never to have a full year of 3% GDP growth.
	And then we'll be able to increase revenues to the government and pay down the debt and stop robbing from our kids.
	And if you add to that the millions, and I'm not I'm not overstating this, this is not hyperbole.
	And the president's talking about energy today.
	If we get all those energy jobs in the energy sector, and we have the goal of being energy independent, and that would be we are the Middle East of natural gas.
	You can run every car and heat every home and cool every home with natural gas.
	We've got enough that will last hundreds of years.
	If we start being smart and stop importing from countries that despise us, and Americans get to pull all of that gas out and pull all of that oil out and get all of that clean coal out, well, that's going to put millions of forgotten men and women to work, and they're going to go to work.
	They won't be on food stamps.
	They won't be in poverty.
	They'll be able to eventually get a nice house in a safe neighborhood with a decent car or a truck, send their kids to a good school, and the American dream will be a lie for them.
	What's so hard about this?
	And then if they build 300 feet of the wall and fund the entire wall, then these guys come chip away next year at the health care that they they screwed up in such a colossal fashion.
	Why don't we make the country better for 50 million Americans on food stamps, 13 million more under Obama, 8 million and 8 million more in poverty, 50 million in poverty, 90 well, I guess we're down to 94 million out of labor force.
	This is not complicated.
	What we need to do here.
	Where is the will and the desire?
	I keep arguing the Republican Party is a party without identity.
	Trump has an identity.
	He's advocating things we have talked about for years on this program.
	Years on Fox.
	You notice no cable channel ever talks about solutions.
	You never read about solutions.
	You never read about the forgotten men and women.
	You never hear about how many people are in poverty.
	It's only when Republicans are in power.
	Then they'll start dealing with the homeless issue.
	They're such phonies claiming they have a monopoly of compassion.
	If they did, they would try to find solutions instead of Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.
	Racist races, raise, right, risks.
	Anyway, 800 941.
	Sean, no, Joe Bastardi standing by for an update on Irma.
	Bigger, faster, stronger is how they are describing Hurricane Irma headed towards the Miami eastern coast of Florida.
	That means West Palm.
	Broward County now is uh ordering an evacuation.
	That means the highways and byways of Florida are going to be jam-packed.
	It it almost looks like even by what day would that be?
	Monday at 8 a.m.
	When it's close to Jacksonville, probably in the Orlando area.
	And that's where it's gonna hit as a cat four, we believe, at least that's what the forecast is now.
	And you know, 150 mile an hour sustained winds.
	And it's gonna stay and hug the entire state of Florida.
	I mean, literally, it's like gonna be the eye of the storm right over all of Florida.
	It looks like it's gonna hit on Sunday about 8 a.m.
	And then it looks like by Monday, 8 a.m., 24 hours later, it should be up in and around the Orlando area, headed up, then move making a rightward tilt, just missing the outer part of the panhandle, and into the Jacksonville, Pana Vidra area of uh of Florida.
	The bottom line is if you live in Florida, you're gonna get hit.
	And that's how it looks as of today.
	Look, I know it's far out, but this is a very, very serious hurricane that's headed that way.
	And I know a lot of people that are evacuating and the roads are gonna be horrible and it's gonna be miserable and you're gonna be hot and tired and and in brutal traffic.
	And my only advice to you is put your patient hat on and just it's sort of like when I get into a brand new studio.
	I know when I have a new studio like the one we're in, I know the first week is gonna be tweak hell.
	We're gonna have to tweak this, tweak that.
	This isn't gonna work.
	The computer's not gonna work, something's gonna jam up.
	At some point, something's gonna break, somebody's gonna press the wrong button, and everybody's gonna get expect me to get irritated.
	And I give everybody an entire week of just I don't say anything.
	Not a word.
	Did I say anything?
	Week one when we started the new studio.
	This doesn't say anything to our audience.
	This is radio.
	No, you were you were a prince.
	I should have told the story yesterday about sunshine.
	I am I regretted it.
	I feel like that she looks at me like she looks at treat the service dog, and she gives me the the puppy dog.
	Oh no, are you gonna die look?
	And oh no, are you going away forever look?
	And oh no, you're gonna hurt my feelings, and if you do, please, and I just can't.
	It's like people crying.
	When I when anybody at Fox that works there, I see crying, I give them $100, and I say, but you gotta stop crying.
	I can't take it.
	To cheer them up.
	Is that not a nice thing to do?
	Joe Bastardi.
	You're all heart.
	Tonight this order will go into effect for all residents.
	If you're told to evacuate, get out quickly.
	We can expect additional evacuations as this storm continues to continues to come near our state.
	Everyone must listen to their local officials.
	Listen to your local officials on the evacuations.
	Individuals with special needs will be evacuated from Miami beginning this morning.
	Miami Dade County officials are also advising residents living in low-line areas to start evacuating today.
	I cannot stress this enough.
	Do not ignore evacuation orders.
	Remember, we can rebuild your home, but we cannot rebuild your life.
	Real-time traffic information and evacuation routes is available at WWFL511.com.
	What FL511.com.
	And my direction, all tolls have been waived across Florida Roadways.
	This should help families evacuate quickly and safely.
	We're preparing for Irma to directly impact our state.
	And while it's still too early to tell exactly where the storm will hit is incredibly important that all Coridians keep a close eye on this incredibly dangerous storm.
	Do not sit and wait for this storm to come is extremely dangerous and deadly and will cause devastation.
	Get prepared right now.
	All right that's Governor Rick Scott of the Great State of Florida as they keep saying it's bigger, faster, stronger.
	If you're in an evacuation zone, get out.
	Get out of the way, period.
	End of sentence.
	Joining us now from Weatherbell dot com, the chief meteorologist of the Sean Hannity Show.
	Our friend Joe Bastardi is with us.
	All right, it looks like what you talked about yesterday that it might take an eastern eastward turn is true.
	It looks like it's just going to miss Puerto Rico and maybe a direct hit on the Bahamas and and some of Cuba.
	Well I think the track is over at uh Turks and Caicos uh which is the southeastern Bahamas.
	I'm very confident now in our track and we've moved it to uh basically a landfall Miami uh is uh coming up along the coast offshore again and then into the Carolinas uh it looks like Sunday.
	So the the timetable here starts uh in Florida late Friday night, Saturday, Saturday night as it moves up the coast.
	And I am I am really concerned Sean that this is going to go to uh has not seen its strongest uh point yet as far as barometric pressure goes it's going to be kind of hard to top that the wind speeds that it's had but the barometer in this may still fall below what it's been down to which is uh nine fourteen millibars and that would be Saturday as it's approaching Miami.
	I wanted to say something, too, and I've been getting this out a little bit.
	I think this is a reason, watching storms like this, why we should be seeding hurricanes again like we used to.
	We conducted some experiments to disrupt the eyewall of these very powerful hurricanes, because if you can knock it down a category, you can really try to help out with loss of life and loss of property, mitigate it somewhat.
	But that's for another time.
	The point of the matter is that this is in the, genre of the great hurricanes that have hit Florida.
	I don't mean great as far as, you know, something nice.
	I'm talking about the legendary hurricanes of 1947, for instance, 1935.
	These years I bring up, and I hope that people go and look and see what happened with the Palm Beach hurricane, for instance, and some of the storms that have come in, because I don't think people understand what the weather is capable of doing.
	And because of that, they say, well, where did this freak come from?
	Well, this is what nature can do, and this thing is going to continue happening.
	to be a very powerful and expanding storm and may not have reached its strongest intensity yet.
	That's really scary.
	All right, let's go through the timeline and where we are now.
	What I'm seeing is right now it's a Category 5 hurricane.
	What I see is it's literally barely, barely missing the eastern coast of Puerto Rico.
	And it's remaining, as it gets into the Bahamas area, it's remaining a Cat 5.
	And it looks like half of Cuba is at least going to be on the outskirts of this.
	And then about Monday, Sunday morning at 8 a.m., it looks like it hits the tip.
	of Miami.
	Is that about right?
	Or is it earlier?
	Yeah the the Hurricane Center moved their track over to our track an early morning track that uh you know is we send it down for email so they moved it over.
	I think what we're doing is we're just narrowing the window and getting it closer and closer.
	This may weaken some.
	The wind may come down some over the next 24 to 48 hours because of the interaction with land.
	What happens is you'll be able to see the storm pull in dry air off Hispaniola.
	Remember, these storms will pull in a great deal of moisture, but they also can pull in dry air.
	So it may weaken the storm some.
	I don't want people to let their guard down if indeed it does weaken the storm some because I think it's going to come roaring right.
	back up to where it is as it's approaching Florida.
	So, and by the way, there is, nobody's heard anything as far as I've heard from Barbuda, this island, about 2,000 people.
	And from what I believe has happened there, the devastation is going to be unlike anything we've seen as far as a storm in that area of the world.
	And you know me, I'm always looking at these things, trying to put them in perspective, but Barbuda may have been hit 20%.
	to a point where uh the the communication isn't back yet and they were hit last night at uh about one forty five in the morning is when the eye came over them and here we are ten twelve hours later nobody's heard from Barbuda.
	So th that's a demonstration of the power and magnitude of this storm and people say, you know they're gonna be people at the end of this and say, well you overhyped it you know maybe some place didn't get it as bad.
	But the fact that let's just stop for a second and say you're right.
	We got you know a hundred and eighty five mile an hour winds recorded in the storm now.
	And by Sunday morning, what time do you think it makes landfall in Miami or if your track is right.
	Well I th I think it's making it making it very late Saturday night or Sunday into into my right into Biscayne Bay it looks to me like it's coming right up and uh right along the coast in there.
	And then it it goes back out over the water for a while and each one of those cities along the Florida coast from Central Florida northward get the equivalent of Matthew uh as far as what Matthew did.
	I mean this is the the real de the real devastating part of our track is that area uh from Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach southward, all in Miami is uh right in the middle of the uh worst of this track.
	It may uh when a storm passes East it's a little bit different.
	I'm down in St. Augustine right now for something and I was looking out over the beach last night at the moon I was going, I wonder what this is going to look like in five or six days because scheduled to hit that area about Monday at eight AM by my track, the Hannity track it it'll be up there.
	It'll be up there uh about that time.
	The real big problem and the difference between this and Matthew Matthew was weakening as it came to the Carolinas and was a category two and was a tremendous rainstorm but this is going to just come right in and I'm trying to figure is it Savannah is it Wilmington is it Charleston?
	It's probably some place between Savannah and and Wilmington Wilmington, North Carolina, uh likely as a category four it may be as strong there as Hurricane Hazel was in nineteen fifty four.
	So you're dealing with a storm that is the benchmark storm could be a benchmark storm for Florida and a benchmark storm for the Carolinas.
	Alright really scary.
	Let me just put emphasis on one thing.
	We just heard from Governor Rick Scott.
	He's a friend of the program a great great guy.
	We we like him a lot and he's done a great job for the state of Florida and he fights for jobs.
	I mean I see him more often than I want to see him because he's up in New York trying to steal companies from the highly taxed state and highly bureaucratic state and and burden state with terms of regulation of New York.
	Anyway long story short here is uh you know he's work hard for that state and he's telling people to evacuate there's no ambiguity in his voice he's telling them exactly Broward County for example get out um how important is it that people listen I mean to me it's just common sense and I know it's inconvenient.
	I know it's a pain in the neck but if they say get out get out.
	Yeah I think I think he is exactly right by what I do think has to happen uh and so people take this seriously is some of the lesser events where you know emergencies are declared for you know fifty mile an hour tropical storms I think that hurts sometimes when when that goes on you know I but for what the governor is saying now I mean if if if I could if I could echo it uh and add to that I would add to that.
	That's how serious uh this situ this uh did you know the US Navy is evacuating their Florida base as Irma is approaching that ought to give you enough indication where to go with this.
	Yeah well the the a lot of times the Navy's the Navy as I understand it will uh take their ships and ride it uh take their ships out to sea maybe three hundred miles to the east and ride it out out over the water.
	I'm not sure exactly how that works.
	But yeah, it it's a it's a very high potential thing, and the extreme case is the worst imaginable case.
	We know that that's on the table, and that's why you have to take all precautions.
	Yeah.
	All right, we'll talk to you tomorrow.
	Uh, but for those in Florida, especially Southeastern Florida, southwestern Florida, even Miami, and Palm Beach, Boca, all of those areas up the eastern coast, all the way up until you get to St. Augustine and Ponta Vidra, and you know, all everywhere in between, it's even gonna hit the middle of Orlando for crying out loud in Tampa.
	It's gonna hit the I 80 uh uh what is it, the I-4 corridor.
	It's gonna nail it.
	Anyway, 800 941 Sean, toll free telephone number, you want to be a part of the program.
	Um, all right.
	Let me just tell everybody here look, I want to tell you something about this president and his whole deal with Doc I really enjoyed Jamie Dupree's point earlier, which is uh, Republicans, this is so unpredictable.
	And I guess it's unpredictable.
	Well, Donald Trump is never going to conform into the person you want him to be.
	You know, I look, I've known him for a couple of decades.
	And you're gonna say to this guy, stop tweeting, which I did during the campaign.
	I've come to actually change my mind on it.
	Uh I maybe just five percent less would be better, just five percent with less would be better.
	But it's a great way for him to bypass uh an abusively biased corrupt media with their anonymous sources and they're outright lying.
	So I think it works for him.
	But at the end of the day, everybody was telling him during the campaign, stop tweeting, stop tweeting.
	Can you just get him to stop tweeting?
	I know you interview the president, you see him or the the candidate.
	Well, you tell him, tell him we we were we're pulling for him, but stop tweeting, stop tweeting, stop tweeting.
	You know how many times I've had thousands, I'd be at these, you know, interviewing him, you know, with 15,000 people and people 10,000 of them will pull me.
	Tell them to stop tweeting.
	We love him.
	We want them to succeed, but no tweeting.
	And he just he does what he wants.
	He's his own man.
	And he's gonna listen to General Kelly.
	I think he I think General Kelly's turned out to be a rock star in the administration in a lot of ways.
	And and clearly there's order there that we didn't have before, and this is not a diss on Rhine's previous.
	I think Rines did a great job, but I think everybody that works in that house today is working under the most difficult of circumstances.
	And when you have a media and you have a deep state leaking a leak a day, and a media that wants you out of office and hates you, and you have Democrats that don't want to help the country and do nothing except try to undermine you, and Republicans that won't keep their promises that they made for eight years, and you're having to respond to crap all day, every day for the first year of your presidency.
	It's it's a difficult environment for anybody.
	But I think, you know, at the end of the day, none of that's gonna matter.
	At the end of the day, what's gonna matter is is the country better off than we were four years prior?
	And the best indicator of that is gonna be on the top two issues that drive every election, and that's peace and prosperity.
	Is the forgotten men and women gonna have job opportunities they didn't have?
	Are we gonna get people off of welfare, off of food stamps, out of poverty, back in the labor force?
	Are people gonna be able to buy their first home?
	That's gonna be the measure.
	And as a result is the wall gonna be built, considering that was such a big promise.
	Certain basic fundamentals.
	Are we gonna move towards energy independence?
	Are we gonna are we gonna really fight the enemies of this country like ISIS and Al Qaeda and radical Islam?
	I think it's a good first step.
	Now, everybody's all pissed off about the president and DACA.
	Well, the president did what was constitutional, it's what he promised to do, live by the rule of law, and he rightly gave the power and decision making on legislation back to the Congress.
	And Congress is like they're freaked out that they're getting their power back.
	As if they had never should have gotten it taken away in the first place.
	You know, as we have so many things circling around us just at one particular point in time, it's pretty amazing.
	But I'll tell you this on on DACA.
	As much as the media screams racism, racism, what's the word that they keep using?
	We got this montage we put together today.
	We'll play it in the next hour, and we'll play it with Geraldo.
	But they keep going out there screaming that this is discrimination.
	Screaming that this is unfair.
	Screaming this is cruel, cruel, cruel, cruel, cruel.
	President Obama who enacted the original policy called President Trump's decision cruel.
	President Obama's right.
	It's cruel.
	We all talking here about a cruelty.
	All right.
	We'll play the whole cruelty montage.
	But what he did is stand by the Constitution and the rule of law.
	All right, we got a lot coming up today.
	Uh we'll check in.
	Katie Hopkins and Geraldo are going to debate that.
	Also, Luke Rosiak has an update on Debbie Wasim and Schultz and the IT scandal.
	It's getting more interesting every day.
	We'll have a North Korea update, and Dana Rohrbacher will update us more on his uh interview and his time spent with Julian Assange and how he believes there never was any Russia Trump collusion and the in fact all that.
	All right, as we roll along.
	All right, we'll continue to follow Hurricane Irma and the latest on that.
	Also coming up, there is a huge development in the Debbie Wasserman Schultz IT case that you need to know about.
	Looks like a Ma oran, a rope a wan, whatever his name is.
	Apparently he's trying to set Debbie Wassom and Schultz up.
	We'll get to that.
	Also Dana Rohrbacher on his meeting with Julian Assange straight ahead.
	Elaborate more on what the uh DHS's uh connection with the DNC was or uh consultation with the DNC was after you became aware of the hacking and they became aware of the hacking uh as to what was offered them, what they accepted, was there any level of cooperation at all?
	Um, to my disappointment, not to my knowledge, sir.
	Um, and this is a question I asked repeatedly when I first learned of it.
	You know, what are we doing?
	Are we in there?
	Are we helping them discover the vulnerabilities?
	Because this was fresh off the OPM experience.
	And there was a point at which DHS cybersecurity experts did get into OPM and actually help them discover the bad actors and patch some of the exfiltrations or at least minimize some of the damage.
	And so I was anxious to know whether or not our folks were in there.
	And the response I got was FBI had spoken to them, uh, they don't want our help.
	They have CrowdStrike, uh, the cybersecurity firm.
	And that was the answer I got after I asked the question a number of times over the progression of time.
	And that was I assume totally different from the reaction you got from OPM.
	Uh the OPM effort, we were actually in there on site helping them uh find the bad actors.
	Do you know who it was at the DNC who made that decision or who was making resistance?
	No.
	Do you know if the FBI continued to try to help, try to assist?
	I have uh I've read in the New York Times about those efforts sometime earlier this year.
	Secretary Johnson says that the DNC rebuffed the help that they offered.
	You're saying that no one ever caught it.
	Respectfully, the Secretary Johnson is is is utterly misinformed.
	That is simply not accurate.
	And much that has been has been written about the timeline of events by the New York Times, the Washington Post, that document through multiple sources, including me, uh, that uh that the FBI and other federal agencies did virtually nothing to make sure that when they were aware,
	at the point that they were aware that there was or concerned that there was an intrusion on our network by the Russians, that they did virtually nothing to sound the alarm bells to make us aware of that.
	And they left essentially the Russians on our network for more than for almost a year.
	Under my understanding, the Capitol Police is not able to confiscate members' equipment when the member is not under investigation.
	It is their equipment and it's supposed to be returned.
	Well, I think there's extenuating circumstances in this case, and I think I think that you know, working through my counsel and you know the necessary personnel if if that in fact is the case and with the permission of through the investigation, and we'll return the equipment.
	But until that's accomplished, I can't return the equipment.
	I think you're violating the rules when you when you conduct your business that way.
	So the entire mystery over why is it possible?
	What why all of these devices, why all the breaking of hard drives and acid washing and deletions And destroying devices like oh, iPhones and Blackberries with hammers and why would you keep on somebody that you know you that double built?
	Why would you keep these people around?
	What is it?
	And is it even connected?
	Hillary Clinton deleting subpoenaed emails, Hillary Clinton bleach bit acid wash, Hillary Clinton destruction of iPhones, Blackberries, Hillary Clinton sending the FBI blackberries without SIM cards.
	And then you've got Debbie Wasserman Schultz, you know, with all of her might and glory trying to intimidate the police into giving back a laptop.
	What is she afraid that is on there that they may see?
	She keeps the IT guy on.
	The IT guy is getting paid an exorbitant amount of money, found to have double billed.
	People that he's hiring include people that worked at McDonald's and got fired, and one guy that worked at a car dealership.
	Well, how does that qualify you to be an IT person with top security clearance for members of Congress?
	And it just raises so many new and different questions.
	So anyway, we bring back Luke Rosiak.
	He is with the Daily Caller, and he's got a new piece out today that slowly but surely it's like one big puzzle in the middle of a room, and we have it squared off on the outside, and now we're filling in the middle, and a picture is beginning to emerge here.
	And Imran apparently appeared to have wanted police to find Debbie Wasserman Schultz's laptop, so we add a level of intrigue here that we didn't have before.
	This obviously was before he tried to scoot the country after forwarding three hundred thousand dollars to Pakistan.
	Uh we'll stay on this story that the media ignores.
	Anyway, let's uh Luke, welcome back.
	Let's talk about this lap laptop of Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
	Sure.
	So this is the laptop, the infamous laptop we heard that video back in uh in in May, where she threatens the Capitol police with consequences if she doesn't if they don't give it back.
	And she says very clearly and repeatedly that uh the reason she wants it back is because it's a member's laptop and a member has lost it.
	Uh and then uh last month she changes her story and says, uh actually it wasn't a member's laptop.
	It was Imram's personal laptop, but it was bought with government funds, but it was his and I've never even seen it.
	Uh and now we find what really happened going back all the way to April.
	Uh and it turns out that Imram entered a house building around midnight one night and placed this laptop in this little cubby that used to be a phone booth uh in a public area of a house building, not even the one that Wasaman Schultz's office is in.
	So he places this laptop along with letters to the U.S. attorney uh and some other weird evidence like Pakistani documents uh and walks away.
	And this is like um i it doesn't appear to be an accident.
	You know, why would you go into this little cubby and leave all this very important evidence?
	It wasn't like he just went into this room for some reason and then just forgot that all this stuff was in there.
	So when we see Wasaman Schultz saying, Oh, I just wanted to protect his rights.
	I was concerned about his due private.
	Who found the laptop though?
	Do we know that?
	What's that?
	They the Capitol Police were they tipped off to finding this?
	No, so this is it used to be a phone booth that was in the hallway of a of a building, and it was visible from the hallway.
	So uh around after midnight on April 6th, the Capitol Police got a call that said someone was walking down the hallway and they noticed this laptop is this uh backpack with the number of things inside.
	And the Capitol Police checked it out, and they found this laptop, and it was it was in that backpack with uh some Pakistani documents, uh Imran Owan's driver's license, his congressional ID, a copy of his congressional ID badge, uh letters to the U.S. attorney, uh, and then this piece of paper that said attorney client privilege on it.
	So these are all things that tied the laptop to Imram, made police aware that he was a criminal suspect, and that's exactly the rationale that they gave in that infamous video.
	They say, Well, this laptop was tied to a criminal suspect.
	So that police officer let's go back to this tape of Debbie Wasserman Schultz trying to intimidate the pull the Capitol Police guy.
	So what you're saying is as this exchange was going on, the police officer knew all of this existed.
	Is that is that fair?
	or likely knew that this laptop had been found in in washington schultz it seems was being misleading about the circumstances uh...
	It seems the Capitol Police found it, and it seems that Imram intentionally placed it there.
	So I think lost is probably a mischaracterization just based on the city.
	Well, it seems like he's throwing her under the bus and she is fighting desperately to get this because she doesn't know what's supposedly on the laptop and she's lying, saying that it's a member's laptop and it wasn't.
	Is that a fair characterization?
	Yeah, whatever's on that laptop that Wasserman Schultz desperately doesn't want the police and others to see.
	It turns out that Imram very well may have wanted them and wanted us to see it.
	All right, let me play this tape.
	This is Debbie Wasserman Schultz with the Capitol Police.
	Under my understanding, the Capitol Police is not able to confiscate members' equipment when the member is not under investigation.
	It is their equipment and it's supposed to be returned.
	Well, I think there's extenuating circumstances in this case, and it's I think that you know working through counsel and you know the necessary personnel is if that in fact is the case and with the permission of through the investigation, and we'll return the equipment.
	But until that's accomplished, I can't return the equipment.
	I think you're violating the rules when you when you conduct your business that way.
	and should expect that there would be consequences.
	There will be consequences, but it wasn't a member's laptop.
	And this was directly given to the U.S. attorney.
	Well, what was in the letters?
	Do we know?
	Okay.
	We don't know, but here's the uh here's the twist after twist is when Capitol Police opened up that laptop, uh, they found that the username was Rep DWS.
	So here she is saying it's her laptop, but then it's not her laptop and she's never even seen it.
	Um based on this username, and we don't know exactly the circumstances of this laptop, but based on the username, the username appears to be hers.
	So this was a guy who uh was banned f by the police from the Capitol Network months prior.
	Wasserman Schultz had kept him on.
	Also was hired his wife after that point.
	The wife fled the country while subject to a criminal investigation.
	She still keeps paying him.
	He's not allowed to touch computers, but he's still walking around with a laptop with her username on it.
	And he comes in around midnight, takes this laptop with her name on it, and puts it in a hallway where he knows it's going to be found with a bunch of legal documents on top of it.
	Uh so there's no reading of this that isn't like out of a spine novel, like extremely serious stuff.
	But we don't know specifically yet what was on the laptop, but we do know the other government computers were found in his garage and the hard drives were smashed into little bits, right?
	Right.
	And so this is a savvy guy.
	Imram is not sloppy.
	I mean, the reason he was able to run this double billing and cybersecurity theft and uh cybersecurity scheme, which did involve a secret server that he was sending members of Congress's data on.
	The reason he was able to do this for so long is because he's very savvy, he's very organized, and he's not sloppy.
	All right, stay right there.
	Luke Rosiak with the Daily Caller.
	We're gonna continue our investigation.
	Is this the type of thing?
	You know, what was on there?
	What did Debbie Wasserman Schultz desperately want to hide?
	And is this go-to-jail stuff?
	Because it's looking more suspicious by the hour.
	Anyway, we'll get into that.
	We also have a lot more coming up today as we look into the issue of North Korea, which is way in the news more than we thought.
	Dana Rohrbacher is back on the issue of his meeting with Julian Assange, and Julian Asan says there never was Trump Russia collusion, and they weren't responsible.
	And uh much more.
	800-941 Sean, toll-free telephone number, if you want to be a part of the program.
	Quick break more with Luke Rosiak of the Daily Caller, and much more coming up.
	All right, as we continue, Luke Rosiak, he has single-handedly been blowing open this entire Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Ama Rwan is what uh Ron is what his name is, and blowing this case wide open.
	Why did this guy we've already established that he hired people that he shouldn't have hired that seemingly have no experience?
	We've already established that everybody else that he worked for fired him after he was caught double billing.
	Then you got Debbie Wasserman Schultz saying something is not hers, uh saying something is hers when it's not.
	Then you've got the smashed up hard drives in this guy's garage.
	So my question is, Imran One, when we talk about him, what was he trying to hide and was he trying to hide it on Debbie Wasserman Schultz's behalf based on what you know so far?
	It almost seems like the opposite.
	It almost seems like Debbie Wasserman Schultz was trying to hide what's on that laptop, and he may have said, if I'm going down, you're going down with me.
	Uh this could have been essentially a suicide bomb, where uh, you know, he realizes that he's kind of busted, he wants Wasserman Schultz to protect him, but she's not they don't know if she really has the power to do that.
	So he goes in late at night, and you know, there's a very plausible reading of this.
	Uh, in fact, it's hard to see how this is not the case, that he steals her laptop and leaves it for the police to find.
	So uh, you know, this could have been information that he's blackmailing her with, and then he says, Well, if I'm going down, you're going down with me.
	And where is the investigation at this point?
	How come we're not hearing much about this except through you?
	I mean, no offense, but you seem you know, Debbie Wasserman Schultz was the leader of the Democratic National Committee.
	I mean, and she got thrown out of the convention the day before.
	Do you think any of this is connected to what was discovered, what WikiLeaks revealed?
	It's hard to so when Wasman Schultz is told just weeks after those emails are stolen from by by the police, uh, she's told that her own IT guy, Imran One, is a criminal suspect in cybersecurity investigation.
	And she says, No, he wouldn't do that.
	The FBI is framing him.
	It's pretty hard to see uh a plausible reason where that's an honest response that she's just been hacked, and then the police tell her we found a suspected hacker, and she blows up at the police instead of this guy.
	It it's hard to see how this is a normal relationship that she has with Imran One.
	Yeah.
	Um, where do you see this going now?
	Uh it would uh I would assume here, just based on everything you're breaking today, that Imran Awan flipped, and it seems like he's talking.
	So I've got to assume that means she's in severe legal jeopardy here.
	Do we have any uh do we have any understanding of where she might be in all of this and whether or not she's been interviewed by the FBI or other law enforcement over this?
	So uh you know, to get back to your last question, one of the reasons the media hasn't been covering this is because he's only been charged with bank fraud at this time.
	And when you look at this latest information that came out in my article today, um they're saying he put this laptop with all this information about an ongoing case in letters to the U.S. attorney.
	Well, this was all before the bank charges.
	So that's an acknowledgement right there that the reason this all started was cybersecurity and theft investigation on Capitol Hill, and then he fled the country with all this money, resulting in these ancillary charges.
	So uh at this point the media has basically they're moving the goalposts because they said they had one reason for not covering it before, and you know, all of our worst fears were confirmed, and then the media comes up with a different reason not to cover it.
	But these this has all the hallmarks of a major political scandal with national security implications.
	All I could say is really amazing that they're still not writing about it.
	If the name was Donald Trump, if the name was Rhin's previous, trust me, the media would be covering every single aspect and detail of all this.
	But in one sense, you're pretty lucky because you're gonna be way ahead of the curve, and you will be uh at the forefront of breaking, I think, a pretty big scandal the way this is unfolding, and we appreciate you sharing your information with uh with us, and we'll continue to get back to you on it.
	Thank you for being with us.
	Thank you.
	800-941 Sean, toll-free telephone number.
	So, what are Americans America's options when it comes to Kim Jong-un and North Korea?
	We'll get to that coming up next.
	We got my friend Heraldo debating the one and only Katie Hopkins over the issue of DACA and so many other issues, and Dana Rohrbacher will weigh in part two.
	He's gonna join us and talk more about his meeting with Julian Assange and what message Julian Assange wants to send the president on how he has proof that it was never Russia Trump collusion.
	That and more as the Sean Hannity show continues.
	Before I take your questions, I'd like to say just a word about the framework with North Korea that Ambassador Galussi signed this morning.
	This is a good deal for the United States.
	North Korea will freeze and then dismantle its nuclear program.
	South Korea and our other allies will be better protected.
	The entire world will be safer as we slow the spread of nuclear weapons.
	South Korea, with support from Japan and other nations, will bear most of the cost of providing North Korea with fuel to make up for the nuclear energy it is losing.
	And they will pay for an alternative power system for North Korea that will allow them to produce electricity while making it much harder for them to produce nuclear weapons.
	The United States and international inspectors will carefully monitor North Korea to make sure it keeps its commitments.
	Only as it does so will North Korea fully join the community of nations.
	All right, that was Bill Clinton promising something that was not true.
	Good deal for the American people for the United States gonna freeze their nuclear weapons program and we're gonna carefully monitor Baloney.
	None of which is true.
	None of which is true.
	Now, this is becoming, I think, one of the biggest issues we actually have, and that is North Korea putting the world at risk.
	We saw over the weekend the rogue regime conducting their what is now their sixth nuclear test of a hydrogen bomb that it claims they can fit on the end of a long range missile that could meet that could make it to the continental United States.
	And so you got Pyongyang once again threatening America.
	They're saying they're gonna send, quote, love gift packages to the United States.
	Well, what do you think the love gift package is about?
	And according to South Korea's military, Kim Jong-un appears to be preparing for yet another ICBM test, an intercontinental ballistic missile test.
	And that comes after the rogue regime flew a missile over Japan last week.
	Now, meanwhile, the president, his administration, Mad Dog Mattis, they continue to turn up the heat on North Korea, and the president announced that Japan and South Korea will be able to buy a quote substantially increased amount of sophisticated military equipment.
	President tweeted out the U.S. is considering, in addition to other options, stopping all trade with any country doing business with North Korea.
	And last week, prior to the hydrogen bomb test, the U.S. and South Korea, well, they carried out a massive show of force and conducted a simulated live fire bombing raid.
	Now there are, as I've been saying, there's no good solutions to deal with this madman.
	And in large part because of how we were put in this position.
	Bill Clinton thought he could bribe his way into safety and security and that they'd be honest and uphold their end of the bargain.
	He believed in peace and his time.
	Just like it is it's gonna come back and bite us right in the backside, peace in our time with the mullahs of Iran and the hundred and fifty billion dollars that Obama sent them.
	Well, what's clear is we're just making one mistake upon mistake upon mistake.
	You know, it's uh, you know, the New York Times said, oh, Bill Clinton cut this deal, agreed to give billions of dollars in energy aid in exchange for Pyongyang and their promise to end their nuclear program.
	And the framework agreement, North Korea would allow inspectors into their sights, but they'd also be allowed to keep their nuclear fuel rods, which is what they wanted because that's what could be used to make weapons for an unspecified number of years.
	So the North Koreans get the money, the bribe doesn't work, and now they're threatening the world with a possible incineration of certain places.
	Uh Harry Casianis is with us.
	He's director of defense studies at the Center for National Interest, and Lieutenant Colonel Buzz Patterson, he carried the nuclear football under Bill Clinton.
	Um when he said back in the nineties, Buzz, or Colonel, I should say Colonel, um, that this is a good deal for the American people.
	I've got to believe he believed that.
	I don't think he purposely did it.
	Yeah, I think he did at the time, Sean.
	I I but I will tell you this that uh immediately after he made those comments, we agreed to that framework.
	Uh we knew in ninety six, ninety seven, ninety-eight that they weren't playing playing by the rules.
	So we knew that they were advancing forward with their their technological research.
	And they knew what they won was a nuclear weapon, and they got pulled that off.
	You know, if you talk about what's been happening in the last 1015 years since then, he has really been ramping up.
	North Korea has at alarming rates because you know there was eighty missile tests under President Obama and four uh detonations.
	Um, I don't see any good look, th that we really have two options at this point, because we don't know if one of these missiles is is gonna be armed at some point.
	So don't we at some point have to assume that it's gonna be armed?
	And doesn't that mean that we have to shoot these missiles either A out of the sky or take them out on the launch pad and say we're not gonna allow you to endanger the whole world?
	And doesn't that run the risk now that he starts firing into South Korea and Japan and and God knows if he'd launch a nuclear weapon because nobody knows how insane this guy is.
	You know, Sean, the the the situation with North Korea, I don't think the American people truly appreciate how bad this is.
	And let me just give you a quick example.
	I think this will illustrate the point.
	As you pointed out in the earlier segment, the North Koreans are going to test an ICBM.
	They're gonna test it any time between right now and possibly Saturday.
	Saturday is actually North Korea's national founding day, and they love to do things big.
	Last year they detonated their fifth nuclear weapons test.
	So we know they like to do these things.
	But here's what's gonna happen.
	Sometime in the next couple days, the North Koreans are gonna test an ICBM.
	What they're gonna do, though, this is gonna be a very different test than the last one, Sean.
	They're not gonna fire it up straight into the air and go back down like they have the last two tests.
	Oh no.
	What they're going to do is they're going to fire the ICBM, but they're going to fire it over Japan and they're going to drop it into the mid Pacific.
	Now, if they want to get really gutsy, what they can actually do is drop it maybe a hundred or two hundred miles off the coast of California or the West Coast.
	They have to do this because they need to test that I C BM in battlefield conditions.
	They can't get any more data by shooting it straight up in the air.
	The challenge here, Sean, is that the Japanese can't shoot down ICBMs.
	The South Koreans can't shoot down ICBMs.
	We're the only ones who can do that with our interceptors in Alaska.
	The problem is we only have something like 20 of them.
	So in order to do that, you you're probably going to want to shoot three or four in an ICBM to make sure you take it down.
	That degrades by something like twenty-five percent our missile defense capabilities against other ICVMs.
	So when I tell you this is a bad situation, it just keeps getting worse.
	See, from my perspective, once somebody has nuclear weapons and they now have the the missile capability to launch those weapons, it it becomes a worst case scenario.
	And this is why the Iranian deal similarly, I mean it's more modern, but this is why Bill Clinton made his mistake.
	This is classic appeasement, Neville Chamberlain appeasement in my view.
	And I think the mullahs are just maybe ten years behind or less, maybe five years behind.
	But they're gonna get the technology as well.
	And we recently read that they we had some of the the top ranking uh military officials from Iran inside of North Korea.
	And I have no doubt that they're sharing information.
	So the question is that if we think this is gonna happen, that well, that opens up the possibility of either a a preemptive strike, risking shooting it out of the sky.
	And I don't think any of them are good options.
	And if the U.S. has to go after North Korea, we're gonna incinerate the place because we have to worry if this guy is gonna launch a nuclear weapon in South Korea or Japan or maybe even China, who knows.
	Yeah, Sean, the the options are are all bad here.
	Back in 2013, uh a group of colleagues and I got together and we war game this out, and we actually had this scenario happening in 2020, because that's when we thought the North Koreans would be at this point.
	So they've even sort of jumped the shark and gone even further.
	And I have to tell you, all the options were bad.
	Back in those scenarios, we actually plotted out the United States going into North Korea and imposing regime change.
	We the campaign was going really well until we discovered that our forces, us being the U.S. side, missed two North North Korean nuclear weapons and the incinerated Seoul in Tokyo.
	We broadened this out a little bit more, and we had situations where parts of the West Coast were basically obliterated by North Korean ICBMs.
	So thanks to Bill Clinton and a lot of others, this situation has gotten far worse than it ever had to.
	What is your take on that, Colonel?
	Yeah, I I agree completely with Harry.
	I think that this we're really kind of approaching the 11th hour here.
	Not much uh wickle time is left.
	And uh I think that you know, at this point in time, we have some options, but as Harry also says, most of them are not good options.
	Uh but I I think we should start somewhere uh, you know, around around increasing our military presence in the region, maybe putting more assets in there.
	I wouldn't want to get too talk-heavy in that area because we've got uh other threats around the world, but I think that's a good place to start to show that we mean business.
	And then, you know, if we have to take action of some sort, and we we can uh you know, we can probably defer to a special operations type thing or try to disrupt their grid.
	What about what Pat Buchanan said?
	Should Japan and South Korea go nuclear?
	I think we should definitely arm Japan.
	I think it's time for us to arm Japan.
	I and I'm pretty sure they would agree with that wholeheartedly with China and North Korea in their neighborhood.
	So I think it's time for us to look at our policies over there and strategy and say, okay, listen, this guy's for real.
	These weapons are for real.
	China's not helping yet.
	Let's go ahead and increase military presence in the region and get Japan to developing more missile defense and also just giving us some guns and some bullets.
	Bill Gertz Colonel had a uh piece on the Free Beacon today where he talks about Pyongyang and their desire for the first time.
	They revealed plans for using their nuclear arms for space-based electronics, which would disrupt an electromagnetic pulse attack in addition to direct warhead ground blasts.
	Um that should be a threat to every man, woman, and child on this earth, because if that happens, I've I've seen predictions where in the US millions of people could die if in fact that all happened.
	Yeah, there's there's so much out there right now, Sean, that's being developed that um you know, nuclear weapons are probably the most uh you know the worst case scenario right now, but in the very near future we're gonna have the capability or sorry, it means we have the very capability to do things that are non-nuclear, which are gonna be equally as disruptive or more possibly more destructive than even a nuclear weapon coming over and hitting like San Francisco or Los Angeles.
	Yeah, it's it's beyond scary.
	Do you think it would be wise the next time that that Kim Jong-un fires any missile that we take it out of the sky or take it off the launching pad, or is that viewed as too preemptive?
	Well, I would do that.
	I don't think that's preemptive enough, actually.
	I I would I would go ahead and do that.
	And I that wouldn't surprise me though, as Harry said.
	I think if uh it wouldn't surprise me if this next test is something that he flies a missile over Guam or he flies one off the coast of the of Alaska or the West Coast of the United States, uh, just to kind of push you know up the ante and kind of push our buttons a little bit more.
	That would not surprise me when in fact I expect that to happen in the next couple of weeks.
	Well, China, even their scientists have warned that North Korea's nuclear test site is at risk of imploding, uh, obviously releasing radiation into the sky, and then you know, I don't think that anybody should be in a rush to take on North Korea, because even if we attempted Harry to take out the nuclear sites, if we made that attempt, we we don't know what he has where, and you know, he could have you know we even heard that he's building, you know, some submarine launch nuclear whi missiles.
	You know, what would that mean for South Korea?
	How many would die in Seoul?
	And if you take out all the nuclear facilities, don't you run the risk you incinerate the whole country?
	I'm sorry, I could I you broke up there a little bit.
	There you are.
	Yeah, no, I I I think this whole situation is just really completely out of control.
	And I just to throw this into the mix, Sean.
	Uh the the North Koreans have a lot of other ways to escalate that we're not even thinking about right now.
	So take for example, the South Koreans have a very large civilian nuclear program to generate power and all these type of things.
	Uh imagine a scenario where the North Koreans wanted to launch a preemptive attack.
	If I'm Kim Jong-un, I'm not going to strike first with nuclear weapons or even chemical weapons.
	I'm going to take the crude missiles I have that are short range and I'm going to start lobbying them into into into their nuclear power plants.
	The the the level of destruction in and sheer chaos that you'd create would would be uh you it's unfathomable to be honest with you.
	So this is why the American people and and really uh all of our allies in Asia need to wake up to the problem that we're facing here.
	Kim Jong-un might have a train wreck economy that he's running.
	It might be one third the size of Ethiopia.
	His people might be starving, but he's put so much into his military capabilities that he doesn't have to do that much to spark a crisis.
	All right, guys, we appreciate your uh insight.
	Thanks for being with us.
	We'll have you back.
	We'll watch and monitor this closely.
	Uh we got a great debate coming up at the top of the next hour.
	Katie Hopkins and Geraldo battle it out over DACA and assimilation in the case of Europe and what we can learn from Europe.
	Also in the next hour, we'll check in with Dana Rohrbacher of California on the issue of his meeting with Julian Assange.
	Bullying a cruel nation.
	Do you take 800,000 documented people and make them undocumented?
	The Bajibers out of all these kids.
	In other words, there's a cruelty there.
	And it's a signal to say I can do something that a lot of people think is cruel.
	This is one of the most cruel acts we've seen in the presidency in a long time.
	This is so one, this was a cruel, inhumane, and unnecessary move.
	It's a very uh cruel and unfortunate decision to end the president.
	As kids, his critics say the decision was cruel.
	The decision by the Trump administration is cruel.
	This amounts to like cruel and unusual punishment to like innocent children.
	Immigration advocates say the move to cut them off is cruel.
	Cruel decision cold-hearted as an undocumented immigrant and a DACA beneficiary The announcement today was cruel What do you say to those who say there are mixed signals coming from the White House over DACA?
	You punch it.
	No mixed signal at all.
	Congress, I really believe Wants to take care of the situation Really believe it.
	Even very conservative members of Congress have seen it firsthand.
	Uh if they don't, we're gonna see what we're gonna do.
	But I will tell you, I really believe Congress wants to take care of it.
	We discussed that also today.
	Uh and Chuck and Nancy would like to see something happen, and so do I. And I said if we can get something to happen, we're gonna sign it and we're gonna make it make it make a lot of happy people.
	All right, when we come back, Katie Hopkins and Geraldo debate the issue of DACA.
	By the way, the Robert Menendez trial is going on, and some of the opening comments by the assistant U.S. attorney, he said, this is what bribery looks like.
	These two defendants corrupted one of the most powerful offices in our country.
	The defendants didn't just trade money for power, they also tried to cover it up.
	By the way, Chris Christie, rumored to throw himself in there, if in fact Benendez is out.
	That'll be interesting to watch.
	Right, quick break.
	We'll come back.
	Geraldo versus Katie Hopkins and Dana Rohrbacher, all coming up.
	Hannity tonight, 10 Eastern on the Fox News Channel.
	Quick break, right back, we'll continue.
	President Obama who enacted the original policy, called President Trump's decision cruel.
	President Obama's right.
	It's cruel.
	We are talking here about a a cruelty of uh of quite a magnitude.
	Look, at the end of the day, this may go down as the most cowardly and cruel move ever by a president in the modern uh United States.
	And we're just gonna go and cruelly just take them away from this left.
	To end the DACA program is one of the most cruel and ugly decisions ever made in the modern history of this country by a president.
	Today's actions by the president and Jeff Sessions is nothing short uh than cruel as well as compassionless.
	So you have the president needlessly tormenting hundreds of thousands of hardworking Americans with a cruel and capricious policy.
	Joe Biden has just tweeted, brought by parents, these children had no choice in coming here.
	Now they'll be sent to countries they've never known cruel, not America.
	Well, the statement reads it's wrong because it's cruel to send these young people to places many of them have never lived and do not know.
	Only in a cruel nation, do you take 800,000 documented people and make them undocumented?
	And it's a signal to say I can do something that a lot of people think is cruel.
	This is one of the most cruel acts we've seen in the presidency in a long time.
	This is so one, this was a cruel, inhumane, and unnecessary move.
	It's a very uh cruel and unfortunate decision to end the proof.
	As kids, his critics say the decision was cruel.
	The decision by the Trump administration is cruel.
	This amounts to like cruel and unusual punishment to like innocent children.
	Immigration advocates say the move to cut them off is cruel.
	The cruel decision quote hearted.
	That's an undocumented immigrant and the DACA beneficiary that announced meant today was cruel.
	I wonder if they got a talking point that said, well, portray it as cruel.
	Now, what we know, and we're only listening to Barack Obama.
	And I'm gonna play a little of this here.
	Barack Obama's the one that told us before he did DACA that he didn't have the authority to do DACA.
	So he admitted he he would be transcending what is the law and the Constitution, the rule of law in the Constitution.
	And you can criticize the president all you want.
	He hasn't done anything with with dreamers and and those impacted by DACA, and they're not all children, as everybody tells you, as we pointed out in our morning minute this morning.
	Um they happen to mostly be adults.
	But anyway, and not only that, the president do it didn't do anything for eight months, but he now has given Congress six more months to do their job.
	We have co-equal branches of government.
	They legislate, and they didn't want to do their job.
	Listen to Obama admitting he didn't have the authority to do this.
	Here's the problem that I have, uh Jose, and I've I've said this consistently.
	Um my job in the executive branch is supposed to be to carry out the laws that are passed.
	Uh Congress uh has said, here's the law when it comes to those who are undocumented, and they allocate a whole bunch of money for enforcement.
	It's something that I've struggled with uh throughout my presidency.
	The problem is that um, you know, I'm the president of the United States, I'm not uh uh the emperor of the United States.
	Uh my job is to execute laws that are passed.
	And Congress right now has not changed what I consider to be a broken immigration system.
	And what that means is that we have certain obligations to enforce the laws that are in place, even if we think that in many cases the results may be tragic.
	Now, what you need to know when I'm speaking as president of the United States, and I come to this community, is that if in fact I could solve all these problems without passing laws in Congress, then I would do so.
	But we're also a nation of laws.
	That's part of our tradition.
	A nation of laws.
	And it goes on another two minutes.
	He said it so many times.
	Joining us, news roundup information overload hour.
	The one and only gobby one, Katie Hopkins of the Daily Mail, UK, Geraldo Rivera, Fox News legal analyst.
	Um just from a legal standpoint, Haraldo.
	Obama admits that he didn't have the authority for DACA, but he did it anyway.
	And when you do that, you're usurping the legislative role in government, usurping power from them.
	You're stomping on the Constitution and the rule of law.
	And so it was wrong from the get-go.
	And I actually think if you're pro-DACA, you should be thankful that Trump gave you eight months and a six additional months and let Congress do what their job is.
	Well, two parts.
	I think that uh you're obviously correct on the legal analysis.
	Congress passes laws.
	This was de facto a law that gave uh eight hundred thousand very deserving young people, by and large.
	Uh, you know, some they cut them some slack.
	Now it should have been a law.
	Instead it was an executive order.
	Obama, President Obama was probably overstepping his authority.
	The Supreme Court has not yet ruled on that issue.
	Well, you and I both know it's very obvious he the president himself, then President Obama admitted he didn't have the ability to use a stroke of a pen, and he had to enforce laws even if they thought they were wrong.
	Let's say that's absolutely true.
	Where do you go from there?
	You can't I to in my view, Sean, as you know, you can't uh torture the children for the act of the president.
	The 44th president exceeded his authority and he did something he never he should not have done, perhaps, but he's done it, and now to make the uh you know the beneficiaries of his largesse, however misguided, make them pay for it, I think is really it is nobody's paying for it.
	It's six months.
	Congress has the right to pass any law they want.
	And now thank God now and now people like you can go out there and say, okay, I want people to pass DACA, and people like me are gonna go out there and say, I want a wall.
	Okay, great, great.
	Why not have both?
	Why not deal, uh make a deal?
	Uh I'm okay with that.
	You're my brother.
	I'm not giving you the upper hand in a deal.
	But let me go to Katie Hopkins.
	Katie, uh, coming from Great Britain, you have a little different perspective because you've had unbridled open borders, and it is now changing dramatically what Europe used to be.
	And in other words, you're inviting people in, you have no go zones, you have eighty Sharia courts in your country, no go zones in in France, although people deny them.
	I've interviewed people that have been to them.
	Uh, you have all these terrorists, there's been no assimilation, all these terror attacks, all this migration without any vetting whatsoever.
	How has it impacted the culture of Europe?
	Absolutely.
	I think, you know, this is where you have someone like Heraldo, who obviously hasn't lived through these types of experiences, hasn't watched their entire culture being what's away, and using it.
	Uses nonsense phrases like we're gonna torture these children.
	No one is trying to torture children.
	You're being so over-dramatic, which is typical of you kind of lefty liberal types.
	All Trump is trying to do is restore order.
	All he's doing is saying you've got six months to sort the house out.
	And at that point, those that need to be deported will be deported.
	You might remember he said I'm going to build a wall, but he also said I'm going to build a wall with a great big door in it, and I will welcome people when they come here legally, and I will welcome people when they want to become day workers.
	So all he's trying to do is re-establish a system of law and order.
	And I do not understand why those uh that belong to the Democrats and whatever cannot understand the simple process of law.
	Well, all I can tell you, Katie, is that I know very well how immigration has impacted Europe.
	You may recall my daughter was caught in the terrorist attack in Paris.
	She was inside the stadium, and I went to be with her for the next three weeks and was on the scene when the Muslim extremists were taken down by French security.
	I know very well.
	So why unridled immigration to the UK?
	Why would you then say these are eight?
	If you know thousand young people, these are eight hundred thousand young people, all of whom have been vetted, who are now documented, who would become undocumented.
	It is a it is a a notion that benefits absolutely no one and will hurt the Republican Party in the United States.
	I mean, that's a good thing.
	That's complete nonsense.
	You just said it will benefit absolutely no one.
	That's just a massive bunch of words that mean nothing.
	You just said some words that were totally empty.
	We've already had proof.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	I'm gonna reply to you.
	We've already had Zuckerberg coming out and saying when these guys become undocumented, 700,000 people within Facebook will lose their jobs.
	We've already had him say 700,000 illegals.
	It strikes me that will be very good news for American kids that might want to get a job that are un uh unable otherwise because someone else is already in that job.
	All we're asking is for people to respect America and to abide by the law.
	And Obama just sat there with his phone and his pen, as he puts it, and rode roughshod over your constitution.
	That is neither respectful of your constitution nor respectful of the American people.
	I am respectful of the president of the United States who happens to be a friend of mine, and I don't know.
	I don't care if he's your brother.
	You're still I don't care if he's your brother.
	It makes no odds to me.
	I mean, it is What is it with Americans?
	Why do you why do you think being friends means anything?
	This is an unnecessary act that is more political.
	Oh, go on, Premier's cruel.
	Go on, use the word cruel sweetie for two months.
	Do it for the today that he will revisit it if Congress does not.
	And I trust his instincts.
	I known him for four decades.
	He's not a cruel person.
	I think he will heed the counsel of his family and his own heart, and he will cut these kids some slack.
	Now you could talk about the wall.
	Now you can talk about other restrictions.
	Now you can talk about uh, you know, uh enhanced uh border protections and all the rest of it.
	But these eight hundred thousand are in a very special category.
	They came through no fault of their own.
	Most of them were the average age was six years old.
	Now they are no longer children, they are in their twenties, but every single one of them is either in the military, in college, or or working.
	What what's the point of disrupting all these lives?
	For what do we do it?
	To to appease Are you gonna breeze?
	Or are you just gonna talk constantly without stopping?
	Because if you let me know, I can call back when you shut up.
	Because frankly, from my perspective, seeing what we see, and you say that you understand the problem here in Europe because your own daughter was caught up, and I'm so sorry for her.
	My heart goes out to anybody caught up in the terror that we face.
	But I am sick with people telling me the majority of the Muslim p population here are good people.
	You've just done precisely the same thing.
	The majority of these dreamers, I love the way you use these terms when you want to talk about people they are illegal immigrants.
	Don't tell me they're dreamers.
	Don't try and pretend that you're gonna give me a free unicorn with every dreamer.
	You know, that's typical of you guys.
	These are illegal migrants in the same way that over here I'm told to believe that all Muslims are nice people.
	I'm sorry, I can't.
	Because the Muslims that I've seen that are extreme Muslims have taken hunting knives to people when they've been dining out and have blown up people like that your daughter was involved in.
	I think we need to respect the law.
	We need to recognize that American people.
	Hang on, we'll go on to a break first.
	Quick response, Haraldo.
	Well, my response is that the president is following his conscience, and I think he's going to do the right thing in this regard.
	The issue of immigration can be debated.
	I want Congress to get off their butts and finally pass some comprehensive reform that uh that lays out some very clear laws, and then if you want to build if you want to use valuable infrastructure dollars to build the wall, go ahead.
	But first you've got to r rebuild Texas because of Harby.
	You've got to rebuild uh Erm uh because of Irma, you've got to build rebuild Puerto Rico, it's heading to Florida.
	Now you really want to spend that infrastructure dollars on a wall when you're gonna be uh trying to repair bridges and highways and and public schools.
	I think that this is the debate the American people need to hear and stay right there.
	Katie Hopkins, Geraldo Rivera will take a quick break, we'll come back, we'll continue on the other side.
	It's the Sean Hannity Show.
	Music.
	And as we continue Sean Hannity Show, debate over DACA.
	We continue now with Heraldo Rivera Fox News Channel and Katie Hopkins.
	And you know, when I when you look at, for example, Haraldo, What has happened in Europe?
	And and I I I remember the incident with your daughter very well, and and that's every parent's worst nightmare.
	And but this has happened now again and again and again.
	Who would have ever thunk it, if you will, that Great Britain has eighty Sharia courts?
	Eighty.
	Over eighty, as a matter of fact.
	Or that you have people coming into the country, migrants that have clearly no intention at assimilation and being a part of society and they separate themselves.
	And then you have the increased violence by the extremists that come with people that genuinely want a better life.
	Um how do you ascertain how do you do it in a way that's safe and secure?
	Well, the the thing that the advantage we have, and I'm curious, Sean, I don't mean to put you on the spot.
	I'm curious what you would advise President Trump to do uh in the current situation.
	What's the upside for Trump's legacy if he's my answer these children?
	I mean, we we always get the tax increases, we never get the spending cuts.
	You always get the amnesty, you never get the wall built.
	Well, I think that you're right.
	In my my answer is this build the wall first.
	That's my answer.
	Well, I think that the the wall I I told you now if if the uh elections have consequences.
	If a majority of the people who voted in the majority of the states still insist on building the wall then have at it.
	Many, many nations.
	But I think that in the current situation, it is impossible for anyone not to understand the humanity of the 800,000 dreamer, Sean.
	What's your response, Katie?
	I just find I think uh, you know, when people say, Oh, elections have consequences, you know.
	Oh, yes, they do.
	And guess what?
	We voted for Trump, or you guys did.
	I just kind of celebrated wildly, because for 18 months on a campaign trial, he told us I will sort out immigration and I will build a wall.
	The reason so many people queued for so many hours to put their little croft in that box was because he said he would build the wall.
	I wonder if Great Britain how great Great Britain will be when it builds its wall on the channel and uh divorces itself from Europe.
	We'll see.
	History will Obama told us we'd be going to the back of the queue, honey, which is why most of us voted to do the opposite of what Obama said.
	Because we see that he's a whole bunch of talk.
	He talks a good talk, but sadly he did very little, and that's why we voted right, honey.
	I'll tell you.
	We don't have time for the case.
	You don't do anything directly, it takes you four hours to say anything.
	But go for your life.
	I mean, Sean's got a show a week.
	Fine.
	I've got to be honest.
	If you two aren't both married, I I think this would be the perfect, you know, foundation for a great relationship listening to you two.
	Uh great debate.
	I will bring you both back together.
	Uh we'll see you next week.
	Katie Hopkins, the Gobi one Heraldo Rivera from the Fox News Channel.
	Uh wish I had more time.
	When we come back, Dana Rohrbacher met with Julian Assange.
	He believes Julian can prove that there was no Russia Trump collusion.
	So is Robert Mueller is Congress going to pay attention.
	That's next.
	Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
	More Hannity.
	Less big government.
	This is the Sean Hannity Show.
	We had a very good meeting with uh Nancy Pelosi and Jack Schumer.
	Uh we agreed to a uh three-month extension on debt ceiling, which they consider to be sacred, very important, always will agree on debt ceiling.
	Um automatically because of the importance of it.
	Also in the CRs uh and also in Harvey, which now we're gonna be adding something because of what's going on in Florida.
	We had a very good meeting.
	We uh essentially came to an a deal, and I think the deal will be very good.
	We had a very, very cordial uh and professional meeting.
	Uh so uh we have an extension uh which will go out to December 15th.
	Uh that'll include uh debt ceiling, that'll include the CRs, and it'll include uh Harvey.
	Uh the amount of money that to be determined, but it'll include because everyone is in favor, obviously, of taking care of that situation.
	So we all very much agree.
	Mr. President, what percent of those who say there are mixed signals coming from the White House over DACA?
	No mix signal at all.
	Congress, I really believe wants to take care of the situation.
	Really believe it.
	Even very conservative members of Congress have seen it firsthand.
	Uh if they don't, we're gonna see what we're gonna do.
	But I will tell you, I really believe Congress wants to take care of it.
	We discussed that also today.
	Uh and Chuck and Nancy would like to see something happen, and so do I. We have had many discussions about how to go forward.
	We have this emergency created by Harvey and Irma, which must be addressed this week.
	We have the debt ceiling expiring because there's more borrowing the Secretary of the Treasury needs to do than the current debt ceiling allows him.
	This isn't the definition of an emergency.
	I don't know what is.
	Um we in the meeting down in the White House, as I indicated, the president agreed with Senator Schumer and Congresswoman Pelosi to do a three-month uh CR and a debt ceiling into December, and that's what I will be offering based on the president's decision uh to the bill.
	All right, so there it is, the Congress funding the debt ceiling or raising the debt ceiling three months on that so they can get funding for Hurricane Harvey and and the President obviously and McConnell and Schumer and Pelosi, and they're all giddy, but meanwhile, nothing has really gotten done for the forgotten men and and women in this uh country.
	We welcome back to the program.
	Uh Dana Rohrbacher, California Congressman and uh Congressman, welcome back.
	What is your take on the relief funds for Hurricane Harvey and this uh raise of the debt ceiling and this deal for three months?
	Well, I think that's it's a signal, and I think it's an important signal that the legislative branch of our government is providing with the president's leadership that says uh no, helping these people in a crisis who who now found their lives upside down and and and everything that they've owned disappears or or whatever in danger.
	Uh yeah, that's the priority is helping these fellow Americans out.
	So I I think that what's uh what we're talking about is a good way to do it and would and it would justify some of the uh spending and uh restrictions to be limited right now until we take care of that business.
	So you think it was the right thing to do?
	Yes, I do.
	And uh look, uh we have these are Americans who are in trouble.
	How can we spend money in the rest of the uh the budget for overseas and helping people around the world and all sorts of other priorities, but not just immediately go to help our people when they're when they're in danger.
	Well, let me ask you you you were put forward, and I know this gets controversial, and we won't spend a lot of time about it.
	I want to go back to your meeting with Julian Assange here in just a second.
	All right.
	And uh, but I want to ask you about you you wrote a piece about my fellow conservatives should protect medical marijuana from the government.
	That's correct.
	What we have now, if if we are conservatives, if we are looking I was right on speech writer for seven years, spent my whole life being uh a right winger, and we uh I thought we always believed in states' rights.
	And the bottom line is medical marijuana now has been approved by all the four states, and they don't want to waste resources, police resources on trying to prevent rich people from getting treatment as they would like in the with using medical marijuana.
	And my amendment is to the appropriations bill that's now being considered in the House right now today, the appropriations bill for the Department of Justice, so that if a state has legalized the medical use of marijuana, that the federal government cannot and the Department of Justice cannot jump in and supersede the state law uh with our own activities.
	Did you ever see the movie Dallas Buyers Club?
	And I know this may sound a little odd as I'm asking this question.
	You ever see that uh movie?
	What was the name of it again?
	The Dallas Buyers Club.
	It's a um Matt Matthew McConaughey's in it, and it it ends up he's uh a person that has AIDS.
	And he goes to Mexico, and he's literally pretty much on his deathbed, and he runs into this doctor and this doctor has prescribed him different medicines that weren't available at the time up in the United States.
	And he ends up getting well.
	And it was it was much different than the trial he was taken like AZT, but half the people didn't get the drug and half did get the drug, some had a placebo.
	Anyway, long story short, is it worked for him and he started bringing this medicine up to the you know different medicines up to the United States and selling them.
	And he built a uh what is called the Dallas Dallas Buyers Club.
	And my attitude is if it's your body and your life and you're an adult and you're gonna die and you want to try any medicine where it may have any hope whatsoever, I don't think the federal government should get in any way in the way of your trying to save your life and doing what you think is right.
	I agree with you totally on that and especially if the state government that we believe supposedly in limited government and state government we believe in individual freedom and if the states have actually legalized the medical use of it and there have been you know our veterans are telling us it's uh it's helped them in many cases we have senior citizens with arthritis and kids who are going through seizures a lot of things have been proven that it might be of great help.
	Let's let the states determine that in terms of whether someone should be arrested for for using our supplying medical marijuana and uh that that's I think that's consistent with what we believe in.
	Unfortunately they're not going to let my amendment go in.
	It's already passed several times in the last five years and they're trying to nix it so that now the federal government can step in and supersede states rights.
	In the next uh couple hours is when they will determine whether or not my amendment will even give be able to be permitted.
	Now we're most Republicans on this because you addressed your fellow conservatives in the Washington Post I just have a freedom per look but I I on the other hand I don't care what people do if they're sick but people I think use so many drugs so recreationally I mean we have become a a drug society at a level we've never seen before.
	It's permeated and there's no doubt about that and we need to make sure that we give people we could have drug tests in high schools and things I don't believe putting people in jail will help help them in their consumption.
	But but remember there's a practical application we are trying very hard to convince people especially young people not to use marijuana.
	And but we have legalized it for medical purposes when people have a prescription from a doctor et cetera.
	Well this is now it's a billions of dollars are in that industry and guess what?
	If I doesn't pass what's going to happen is billions of dollars now going to businessmen who are being trying to be responsible for seeing how much how strong this is and and where you know and and you have to make sure everything's labeled instead it'll go right back to the drug cartels.
	Billions of dollars go right back to the drug cartels if we if we try to have the federal government outlaw what the states have already done.
	Let me ask you uh and I think it's an interesting argument you're making and I I have a more libertarian side than say I did you know even ten years ago of my life but um I just you know I I just think that if you're sick you ought to be able to take any medicine you want experimental I but you know right but it takes how many billions of dollars to get something approved and meanwhile people are dying.
	That's right and if what what state the state governments in all but four states have liberalized this whole issue and said look uh they there's state laws regulating it so that we don't have a bunch of drug peddlers out there but instead they have they make sure that we're that we're dealing with people who've got prescriptions for for taking care of their arthritis.
	Senior citizens sit in the in their old folks home suffering from various maladies there's no reason for that to happen.
	There's no reason for them only to be offered opiates in order to help uh deal with their uh their pain and uh this is wrong and uh and they're so addictive I mean I know people that took it for a bad back and they get addicted.
	That's another problem.
	Let me ask you let me ask you this.
	Medical marijuana should be should be the should be an alternative.
	This has nothing to do with the fact that you're a deadhead and love the grateful dead all these years and have been a surfer does it?
	Well I was in a the beach culture let me put it that way.
	No listen it's fine.
	All right let me ask you this uh you met with Julian Assange.
	Julian Assange has a message you're convinced as I am having interviewed Him five times that he would be the only person that knows uh where the leak came from, the in terms of the DNC and the emails, and you're convinced as I am, he has the ability to prove it's not Russia.
	Um I do believe that WikiLeaks has never been proven wrong in eleven years, and I've not seen any Russia Trump collusion evidence to date.
	And I think the the special counsel's running roughshod over what its original mission is.
	So my question is how do we how does this information ever get out?
	Because I'm assuming the president's lawyers are afraid to put you near him.
	They uh uh the meeting that I was uh and hoping that will still happen with the president is vitally important to the American people to understand this propaganda campaign, this this basically uh uh lies that they were said over and over and over again during uh the time when uh President Trump was trying to establish his new presidency.
	This was done to undermine his uh his rightful authority as given him by the voters.
	And with and right now, we need to let them know that that was a lie.
	That was a total lie, and that the Russians weren't colluding with Donald Trump for the elections, that this was the when the Russians uh weren't involved in this, that that disclosure came from some but someone totally different than that.
	And uh uh and basically that uh basically unveils this crime that has been committed in our country of undermining the democratic process, which is what they were doing when they said when they were trying to prevent our president from having the appointments, being able to function as a as uh as a president of the United States, and uh I think that if we disclose it, and I say my hat's off to you, my hat is off to you, and we're I'm trying my best.
	Let's just hope that the president under gets the word and that his staff doesn't try to protect him from himself so that we can actually disclose this information to the American people.
	Well, I hope so.
	And what is the method?
	Is there another method short of seeing the president by which you think you can get this information out?
	I think that it is important for uh uh for me to be able to give uh the president the directly the message that was given to me and uh to so he will understand uh that the the solid nature of what we're of the proof that is going to be offered, and thus and the reason that's important is because the American people, again, they were fed a lie.
	This was a con game of the highest order.
	It shows that our CIA, our FBI, our intelligence services have been politicized during the last administration, and and that that puts us at risk as well.
	The American people have to understand that.
	And this one bit of information will, I believe, is a game changer.
	Uh, and so the uh it'll enlighten the American people to the dastardly uh tactics that have been used by by the left in order to try to undermine this president.
	And it's your belief that this has been one big orchestrated lie, and it can be proven wrong.
	What would that say if that do you believe it's also people from within the DNC?
	Because we had Luke Rosiak on earlier and this whole issue with Debbie Wasserman Schultz and and that case seems to be blowing up.
	Do you think it's something that they wanted to hide, something they orchestrated?
	Uh we have let me put it this way.
	I am uh uh convinced that this also uh it served two purposes of what this this this horrible con game it's the biggest con game in American history for sure, uh wasn't just aimed at undermining the uh pr new president and preventing him from and obstructing him from having the appointments and the policies that he was aiming at.
	No, there was something else there, and I believe that what it is, they didn't want the American people to understand the the uh the criminal type activity that was engaged by Hillary and by other people in the Democratic Party with Russia and the Russians.
	And by by shifting the spotlight, they were able to hide on this side of the spotlight while they shined it on Trump, and while their own dirty deeds need to be documented and need to be exposed, and frankly, some people need to be uh convicted of crimes and put in jail.
	All right, Dana Rohrbach of California.
	Thank you so much.
	We're gonna continue to follow it.
	We'll have more with you on TV tonight, and we'll let you tell that story.
	It's very important.
	Quick break, right back.
	We'll continue.
	All right, that's gonna wrap things up in today's Big show.
	Hannity tonight.
	Important opening monologue as the president now pitches tax reform.
	Dotka, uh hysteria on the hill, and what is the big liberal lie?
	We got Kellyanne Conway, Dana Rohrbacher on his meeting with Julian Assange, Sarah Carta, and Greg Jarrett, and Jay Sekulo debate whether or not there's no Russia collusion.

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