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Saw it last night on TV.
And I you know, you watched the president and yesterday in this press conference that we carried here live on the show, and you see a media is in a collective meltdown.
And the fact that they are just so agenda driven, ideological, and inaccurate.
Totally completely inaccurate at times is it's it's something to see.
I will tell you that.
And there's a sad part of all this, then I'm gonna start with this, and that is that there's so many people in this country that really need government to work for them.
And it's not working.
The Republicans aren't getting their job done.
The Democrats are the party of no one obstruction, and you got a media just has been, continues to be obsessed as they they were even before the election, certainly after the election, and doing all they can do to stop the president and his agenda.
And the sad part is that there are people that really suffer.
And that means real Americans, 50 million of them in poverty, 8 million more after the Obama presidency, 13 million more on food stamps, 50 million total.
Now we have a million new jobs, but there's still 94 million Americans out of the labor force.
And then we can go on from there.
Lowest home ownership rate in fifth 51 years.
So things, none of this is getting done.
The country's becoming divided.
It is in many ways, it is like the worst I've ever seen it.
And if you care and you love this country and you're watching everything unfold, you've got to have a sense of, you know, what is happening here.
Information crisis that I have discussed for so many years is everything I've been saying about how abusively biased, ideological, corrupt the news media is, it's all true.
You know, when when you expose the media for having colluded with the Hillary campaign and nobody pays attention, well, that's because that they support the agenda.
When you expose time after time and the time after media bias.
Now, what am I talking about here?
Let me let me make sure we we're on the same page.
Because it doesn't matter.
I mean, it does it there's a couple of things that are first thing that I said, you know, it's kind of refreshing that Donald Trump said, I need all the facts before I go out there and say things.
And this became a big problem, although the media didn't seem to care with then President Obama, especially in in these high-profile racial cases that he weighed in on.
The first one was the Cambridge police acting stupidly.
Oops, let's have a beer summit and fix that mess.
And then, of course, it went on to Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman and I, that could have been me 30 years ago, and and Trayvon could be my son and all these other comments.
That was long before any facts, evidence, testimony was given in the trial, including an eyewitness that said Trayvon Martin was grounding and pounding George Zimmerman's head into concrete.
And the president was wrong.
And then it was the case of his comments about Ferguson, Missouri, and he made multiple comments about that.
And, you know, it ended up in that case that Darren, you know, we we ended up getting the video, and then people were saying, How dare you show that video, Michael Brown robbing and intimidating that store clerk.
And then officer Darren Wilson tells a story.
And then you don't hear from anybody until we hear that the grand jury has decided against bringing charges against Officer Wilson because you had numerous uh African American witnesses saying, yeah, the story of the police officer is true.
That Michael Brown reached for the gun while the officer was in the car, charged that the police officer led to the shooting.
And then the same thing with Freddie Gray in Baltimore.
And I went out there and I just said to everybody, it's there's not going to be a conviction.
Didn't matter.
And everything that happened therein.
So there's a very, you know, if you love your country and you believe in your country, and you see these things unfolding, and you see this great divide, it's a sad thing for us to have to watch.
It's also sad to see zero progress.
And you see the divide get bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.
Now, I argue that the media is in a complete meltdown mode because there is some factual information that they just refused to look at.
And it all, and everybody agrees.
This is not an issue.
I've now been saying it for days.
Said it on this show yesterday, said it on this show Tuesday, said it on this show Monday.
I said it on TV Monday, and I said it on Tuesday, and I'm going to say it again tonight.
Every good person in this country deplores racism.
Every good person with a heart, a conscience, and a soul deplores this white supremacy movement.
Everybody in this country sees these people, and then it's repugnant.
The president started addressing this on Saturday.
You know, it's very sad when you look at an innocent young woman die, and you look at innocent people, a car plowing into them, and you look at yet another incident of violence and fighting and complete mayhem.
And there's no mistake about it, the people that provoked it are the white supremacists.
They're the ones most responsible.
And I fully and completely understand that their mere presence brings out a justifiable, I'll say it's justifiable reaction from people, and a righteous indignation, a morally justifiable anger in people.
But that does not in any way give others the right to just punch, beat, and attack.
You can say anything you want to them, but as soon as it becomes physical, that's a line that's been crossed, and you've got two people in the wrong at that moment.
And that's what the president said yesterday, and that's what led to the meltdown.
That's just a factual truth that that's what happened.
I understand the moral repugnancy and the visceral reaction at white supremacy.
It's justifiable, and anger is justifiable in people.
You know, if you um, but it doesn't give people the right to attack, to punch, to fight, to brawl.
Now, everybody that has a good conscience, a good heart, a good soul, disagrees with everything these people stand for.
Everything that they believe in.
We do have a First Amendment in this country, and even the ACLU, one of the biggest Trump hating groups, and interesting coalitions emerge here where the ACLU, seemingly, along with conservatives, be seemed to be the biggest supporters of free speech, whether you like it or not in this day and age, but they even said they hate Donald Trump.
They had, you know, had defended the right of these racist white supremacist people to hold their rally.
I know that makes people angry.
I get it.
I understand it.
The ACLU even put out a statement.
The First Amendment is a critical part of our democracy.
It protects vile, hateful, ignorant speech.
And for this reason, the ACLU of Virginia defended the white supremacist rights to march.
We're not going to be silent in the face of white supremacy, nor should they be.
Perfectly justifiable.
And then they go on to say and tweet it out, not sure who provoked first.
This is the ACLU.
Both sides were hitting each other.
At the Justice Park before police arrived.
The guy, you know, we showed a lot of these the videos last night.
There were two sides fighting fighting.
You know, we showed the Antifa protesters.
We showed the white supremacists.
We showed the brawling.
By the way, where were the police?
Anyone ever asked the guy?
The governor said that they were outgunned.
I'm I've looked at a lot of video tape here.
Did anyone see any weapons besides I saw some people holding objects and holding stick-like things?
And I didn't see any armed people.
I did see people bloodied and bruised.
Uh, you know, I don't know what side anybody was on at that particular point.
But if the police were outgunned, why didn't the governor bring in and request the National Guard to restore order?
It's an interesting question.
Maybe we'll get an answer to.
Then you got the fact that the Trump media is just they will never be satisfied with the president condemning the racism and violence and the bigotry.
I don't know how many times it would satisfy him, but if you looked at his original comments on Saturday, this was before the guy plowed the car and killed this young woman and injured all these other people.
The president had tweeted, and pay close attention, because these words matter.
We all must be united and condemn all that hate stands for.
There is no place for the kind of violence, this kind of violence in America.
Let's come together as one.
Then he said, we must remember this truth.
No matter our color, creed, religion, political party, we are all Americans first.
Now, the president, there was a then the media went insane.
He didn't mention them my name.
Then Monday he came out, and this is what he said on Monday.
Listen.
You got that tape there?
As I said on Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms.
This egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence.
It has no place in America.
And as I have said many times before, no matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws.
We all salute the same great flag.
And we are all made by the same Almighty God.
We must love each other, show affection for each other, and unite together in condemnation of hatred, bigotry, and violence.
We must rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as Americans.
Racism is evil.
And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.
Now, the president even mentioned a lot of this yesterday when he said, I didn't want to rush the judgment.
I wanted all the facts.
And here's what he said.
Thank you.
Why did you wait so long?
I didn't wait long.
Well, why didn't wait long?
I wanted to make sure, unlike most politicians, that what I said was correct, not make a quick statement.
The statement I made on Saturday, the first statement, was a fine statement, but you don't make statements that direct unless you know the fact.
It takes a little while to get the facts.
You still don't know the facts.
And it's a very, very important process to me.
And it's a very important statement.
So I don't want to go quickly and just make a statement for the sake of making a political statement.
I want to know the facts.
If you go back to my in fact, I brought it.
I brought it.
I brought it.
What did you reflect?
As I said on remember this Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence.
It has no place in America.
And then I went on from there.
Now here's the thing.
As to excuse me.
Excuse me.
Take it nice and easy.
Here's the thing.
When I make a statement, I like to be correct.
I want the facts.
This event just happened.
In fact, a lot of the event didn't even happen yet as we were speaking.
This event just happened.
Before I make a statement, I need the facts.
So I don't want to rush into a statement.
All right.
So when we come back, we'll give you the media reaction to all of this.
It is about as unprecedented as anything I've heard.
And it ignores Saturday.
It ignores Monday, and it ignores Tuesday's comments.
And the fact that he said there were two sides fighting just sent the media over the edge.
Well, we have video that does confirm that two sides were fighting.
And I I fully support that the argument that, yeah, of course, the white supremacist, their very presence brings out justifiable outrage and indignation in anybody that has a heart, a conscience, and a soul.
So we'll get into that.
We have a lot of tape to play and much more.
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We're also going to get into the latest.
Yeah, we're going to continue looking into uh, there's a lot of corruption, a lot of investigations, unmasking, surveillance, leaking intelligence, Hillary Clinton, 7,000 new emails.
Did the FBI lie to the ACLJ where their talking points between the FBI and DOJ, they're not supposed to be political.
We'll get to that at the top of the next hour.
We'll also have a debate on this topic, our top story today.
Quick break.
We'll come back.
We're going to play the media's reaction to the president's presser yesterday.
music plays As I said on Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms.
This egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence.
It has no place in America.
And as I have said many times before, no matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws.
We all salute the same great flag.
And we are all made by the same Almighty God.
We must love each other, show affection for each other, and unite together in condemnation of hatred, bigotry, and violence.
We must rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as Americans.
Racism is evil.
And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.
So that's the president.
I I don't have time to actually play it in this segment.
We went long a little bit in the last segment, but I I you gotta hear this montage when we get back.
And look just play the beginning of Chuck Todd.
Just listen to this open because you just heard the president say that the president didn't justify just that the hurting of white nationalists and portrayed them as victims.
He never did that.
He just said there were other people that were involved in the fighting.
Listen.
Good evening.
I'm Chuck Todd here in Washington.
Welcome to MTP Daily.
Folks, what I just saw gave me the wrong kind of chills.
Honestly, I'm a bit shaken from what I just heard.
Inspect, it's not just me.
Moments ago at Trump Tower, the President of the United States painted white nationalists and members of the alt-right as victims of what he described as club we did not paint them as victims.
That's not what happened.
We'll explain.
We'll play it all.
Wait till you hear this media montage when we get back.
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Uh pretty amazing development about the tarmac meeting with Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch and new information about that.
And originally the ACLJ, the Jay's Jay Seculos group, the American Center for Law and Justice, of which he's the chief counsel.
Uh, they asked the FBI if they had any information, any emails, freedom of information act requests, they were told none.
Appears they were lied to over 480 pages, including redacted talking points put together between the DOJ and the FBI.
One has to wonder why.
And you've got 7,000 new emails of Hillary Clinton that have just come out, some classified top secret, which now raises the issue if the new attorney general will in fact be going after and pursuing either a special counsel of some type or investigating the mishandling of classified top secret special access program information and the destruction of such and the acid washing bleach pit incidences and the hammer incidences and the no sim card incidences.
And on top of that, then we've got the whole issue of unmasking.
You know, Samantha Powers, now Ben Rhodes being investigated, Susan Rice being investigated, and it seems like that is getting closer and closer to getting somewhere.
And on top of that, then we've got the Ukrainian issue and the uranium one, which I still think in my heart is going to end up being the biggest issue we've ever seen.
Among many.
Anyway, so I just played for you uh what the president said on Monday and on Tuesday of this week, and told you what he said on Saturday of this past week with response to the events in Charlottesville and the president again yesterday, he condemned in no uncertain terms, no and uh ambiguity at all, white supremacy.
As a matter of fact, before we get to the media montage, we still have a history of the president over and over and over and over again, and as far as I know, nobody in media ever took the time to tell you the truth, the track record of the president again and again denouncing white supremacy, David Duke, this kind of evil that sadly exists in the country today still.
It's a very small percentage, just very ignorant people.
But he's been asked to do it again and again, and it goes back as you know many, many years ago.
Seventeen years ago, we got him on tape.
Here's what he says.
What do you see as the biggest problem with the reform party right now?
Well, you've got David Duke just joined, a bigot, a racist, a problem.
I mean, this is not exactly the people you want in your party.
I totally disavow the flute clux clan.
I totally disavow David Duke.
I've been doing it now for two weeks.
This is your probably about the eighteenth person that's asked me the question.
It was very clear.
David Duke announced his Senate candidacy, claiming your agenda for his own, or essentially saying, Glad that you spoke out.
Are you ready before you asked the question?
Newt Gingrich said every Republican should repudiate this guy, no matter what it takes.
And I do.
Are you ready?
Would you support a Democrat over David Duke?
If that was what was necessary to defeat him.
I guess depending on who the Democrat, but the answer would be yes.
Look, the answer is uh as quick as you can say it.
In fact, I want to answer answer you before you have to quick.
Because last time, with another person in your position, I did it very quickly, and they said he didn't do it fast enough.
Rebuked.
Is that okay?
Rebuked.
Rebuked.
Done.
Done.
Okay.
How do you feel about the recent endorsement from David?
I didn't even know he endorsed me.
David Duke endorsed me.
Okay.
All right.
I disavow.
Okay.
And I don't mind disavowing anybody, and I disavowed David Duke, and I disavowed him the day before the major news conference, which is surprising because he was at the major news conference.
CNN was at the major news conference, and they heard me very easily disavowed David Duke.
How would you characterize him, more words than one?
Uh David Duke.
David Duke is a bad person who I disavowed on numerous occasions over the years.
Just to put it clear.
I've reject David Duke, rejected David Duke.
Uh I've rejected the uh KKK, the two clux LAN.
From the time I'm five years old, I rejected them.
Mitt Romney says your coddling of repugnant bigotry is not in the character of America.
Your response.
Yeah, David Duke and all were disavowed.
I disavowed him on Friday.
I disavowed him right after that because I thought if there was any question, and you take a look at Twitter almost immediately after on Twitter and Facebook, they were disavowed again.
I disavowed him every time I speak to somebody virtually, and you know, they just keep it going, they keep it going, and They said, Oh, we never looked at your Twitter account.
We never looked at Facebook.
I said, take a look at Facebook.
It was totally disavowed.
So are you prepared right now to make a clear and unequivocal statement renouncing the support of all white supremacists?
Of course I am.
Of course I am.
All right, so you hear it.
So before I get to the media, let me remind you, Saturday the president says we must be united.
And condemn all that hate stands for.
There is no place for that this kind of violence in America.
Let's come together as one.
And we must remember this truth.
No matter our color, our creed, our religion, or political party, we're all Americans first.
And then on Monday, because the media then went apoplectic over the weekend, as they've been apoplectic since yesterday.
And the the weekend apople the the weekend reaction was about he didn't mention them by name, though.
Even though I just gave you a history, all of those repudiations, denouncing, etc., etc., was on way before what happened this weekend.
And so Monday, he said, okay, I'll name them by name.
And here's what he said.
As I said on Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence.
It has no place in America.
And as I have said many times before, no matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws.
We all salute the same great flag.
And we are all made by the same Almighty God.
We must love each other, show affection for each other, and unite together in condemnation of hatred, bigotry, and violence.
We must rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as Americans.
Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.
So after the presser yesterday, in which the president was asked the question, well, why why did you wait to say it on Monday?
He said, Well, I wanted to get the facts.
And we have a history of the previous president being wrong on high-profile racial incidents.
Maybe that was in his mind or not.
I don't know what was in his mind.
And then here's the media's reaction.
Listen to your media.
Good evening.
I'm Chuck Todd here in Washington.
Welcome to MTP Daily.
Folks, what I just saw gave me the wrong kind of chills.
Honestly, I'm a bit shaken from what I just heard.
And Spect, it's not just me.
Moments ago at Trump Tower, the President of the United States painted white nationalists and members of the alt-right as victims of what he described as club-wielding members of the alt-left.
This press conference was in every way, shape, and form a car wreck for the president.
He was bleaching their white robes and he was shining their shields with his remarks today.
And he may say he condemned them, but that's not the way anybody in America read that.
Yeah, David Duke and other white nationalists actually praising the president of the United States yesterday for his words, and why not?
He is now officially become the president of the white nationalist, not only of America, but also of the white nationalist movement.
And anyone who is an American who believes in this country should be speaking out against this person and saying that it is wrong for him to do this.
And anyone who is, let me be plainly clear.
Anyone who is in that white house and who is supporting him is complicit in their racism as well.
Donald Trump, short of only maybe Woodrow Wilson and Andrew Jackson, is being himself more than any other previous president with disgraceful racial views.
That's the truth.
He's not pandering to people.
These are his views.
He's being himself.
Well, for Republicans in particular, they have to distance themselves from the president.
And the question is whether this is anything that can be repaired.
Anybody who makes remarks that can be received approvingly by Imperial Wizard of the KKK, David Duke, uh, is just somebody that Republicans can't uh embrace.
I don't care who you are, I don't want to hear anybody say my vote does not matter, because when you see a white supremacist at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, all you need, that's the only proof you need to show your vote does indeed matter.
But I think today, neo-Nazis are found comfort in this president in a way that they did on Saturday as well.
So I think people now realize that this strain of white nationalism uh in the White House is in fact uh something that is more closely associated with the president himself, I think, than they were willing to accept prior to yesterday.
But he's now given safe harbor to Nazis to white supremacists.
He's he's so disgraced, not just the Republican Party, but the country sure there is a real Donald Trump.
I think this guy's deeply ill.
I really do.
Um, you know, he's completely out of control.
He has no consistency from one day to another.
We essentially are a country without a president.
It was disturbing, Don.
I, you know, I think we saw the president's true colors today, and and I'm not sure they were red, white, and blue.
And that's what you have been hearing ever since the presser yesterday.
And uh, you know, there was a lot of violence.
People forget leftist violence, rampant at anti-Trump protests.
Sixteen cities, remember tens of thousands of people trying to have a peaceful, you know, rally for the president they liked and then candidate.
You remember what happened in New York, San Francisco, Oakland, LA, Seattle, Portland, Austin, Chicago, Boston, Philly, and you know, a lot of uh a lot of stuff happened then, and we have gone over in great detail a lot of what has been said since this president has in fact been elected.
And so the media goes nuts all weekend long, and then they went nuts ever since yesterday.
And the doesn't matter, the president has said what he said, and the fact that he said there were two groups of people fighting.
I'll repeat what I said, and that is that I I put the majority of the blame.
There is a natural abhorrence repugnancy that is emerges at the sight of such vicious people.
But you can't discuss this and not discuss that there is a Democratic playbook item, which is to play the race card every four years.
You elect Republicans, black churches are gonna burn, 1998 Missouri Radio ad, or the 2000 James Bird ad, or Republicans have the wrong agenda for African Americans, they don't even want to count you in the census census, all things that we have discussed about before.
And, you know, and or you can't look at how Obama rushing to judgment in the high-profile cases is impactful.
And you you just can't look at all of this and not say to yourself, you know, wait a minute.
Um, did the media blame Bernie Sanders after one of his supporters targeted Republicans at a baseball practice that left Steve Scalese fighting for his life?
Now, I it would be wrong to blame Bernie Sanders.
And because there's some nut that likes him.
Well, you can't, you know, can you similarly do you blame Trump because some lunatics, racist, white supremacist jerks support him?
That was not his rally.
It did, we did see two sides fighting there.
And that, of course, is just something that we have.
Everybody that has a heart, a soul, a conscience condemns the hate that we saw from the white supremacy groups this weekend.
And everyone also should hate the violence.
And, you know, I look at all of this and and I I watched all that was happening all weekend long, and I'm watching here, and I'm thinking, you know, the Democratic Party is not exactly, and I'm looking, you know who Hillary Clinton's mentor is?
Oh, my mentor, former Klansman Robert KKK Burke.
The same why isn't the same standard applied to her?
Today our country has lost a true American original, my friend and mentor, Robert Seabird.
Enough with that.
Senator Bird.
Or the the person that was the mentor, Bill Clinton.
J. William Fulbright, guy that sound signed the Southern Manifesto in opposition to the Supreme Court's Brown versus Board of Education, and with other Southern Democrats filibustering the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, 64-65, that Republicans were needed to help Lyndon Johnson pass that.
You know, uh what about the University of Arkansas, a school of arts and sciences named after William Fulbright?
You know, if if now all of this, you you got efforts now to say, okay, well, let's take down this and let's take down this.
I have a list of bird names, Robert Bird names that are all over West Virginia and all over the entire state.
And it goes on, are they going to take those things down?
You know, if you look at, you know, these positions that these people had and supported by those Clintons, you have to ask the question, or Al Gore's father not supporting the Civil Rights Act.
Or you can even take it back further.
And you can, you know, Woodrow Wilson's racism.
You know, or or any of the history here.
George Wallace standing in the schoolhouse door, Democrat.
Wilson, Democrat, Fulbright, Democrat, mentor of Bill, Byrd, Democrat, Senate Majority Leader in recent years, relatively recent years.
Hillary's mentor.
So there's a lot of hypocrisy here on a lot of different sides.
And I am just saying to you that for the media to just outright ignore all of the president's statements and to run insane.
This is what they have done since he's been elected.
And there's a reason for it all.
We'll get to that.
We also have Jay Seculow, Sarah Carter, and Greg Jarrett coming up.
Then we'll get back to this as you have a debate on our top story today.
We'll get back into that.
Well, I did see the president uh at the Phoenix Airport the other night as I was landing, he was headed out.
Uh he did come over and say hello and speak to my husband and myself and um talk about his grandchildren and his travels and and things like that.
So that was the extent of that.
And no discussions were held in any cases or anything of that.
And he didn't raise anything uh about that either.
Let me go back if I can very briefly to the decision to publicly go out with your results on the email.
Was your decision influenced by the attorney general's tarmac meeting with the former president Bill Clinton?
Yes, in in a ultimately uh conclusive way.
That was the thing that capped it for me that I had to do something separately to protect the credibility of the investigation, which meant both the FBI and the Justice Department.
Were there other things that contributed to that that you can describe in an open session?
There were other things that contributed to that.
Uh one significant item I can't.
I know the committee's been briefed on.
There's been some public accounts of it which are nonsense, but I understand the committee's been briefed on the classified facts.
Probably the only other consideration that I guess I can talk about in open setting is that at one point the attorney general had directed me not to call it an investigation, but instead to call it a matter, which confused me and concerned me.
But that was one of the bricks in the load that led me to conclude I have to step away from the department if we're to close this case credibly.
The attorney general, previous attorney general, asking you about the investigation on the Clinton emails, saying that you've been asked not to call it an investigation anymore, but to call it a matter.
And you had said that confused you.
Can you give us additional details on that?
Well, it concerned me because we were at the point where we had refused to confirm the existence, as we typically do, of an investigation for months, and it was getting to a place where that looked silly because the campaigns were talking about interacting with the FBI in the course of our work.
The the Clinton campaign at the time was using all kinds of euphemisms, security review matters, things like that for what was going on.
We were getting to a place where the Attorney General and I were both gonna have to testify and talk publicly about it, and I want to know was she gonna authorize us to confirm we had an investigation?
And she said, yes, but don't call it that, call it a matter.
And I said, Why would I do that?
And she said, just call it a matter.
And again, you look back in hindsight, you think should I have resisted harder?
I just said, All right, isn't worth this isn't a hill worth dying on?
It gave the impression that the campaign was somehow using the same language of the FBI because you were handed the campaign language and told to be able to use the campaign.
Well, and again, I don't know whether it was intentional or not, but it gave the impression that the attorney general was looking to align the way we talked about our work with the way political campaign was describing the same activity, which was inaccurate.
We had a criminal investigation open with as I said before the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
We had an investigation open at the time, and so that gave me a queasy feeling.
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We are not gonna allow ourselves to get sucked in completely the way the media is in ignoring every other issue beyond the media and them being unhinged, them not listening to the words the president has spoken repeatedly, and And you watch the five forces continuing to take down the President.
Because there still are the forgotten men and women in this country, and there still are issues where there are unresolved that are totally and completely unresolved as it relates to the rule of law.
Now we have two incidents that I want to draw your attention to.
One is uh we told you about the Freedom of Information Act request by the ACLJ, the the group of Jay Seculo and uh the let the American Center for Law and Justice, he's the chief counsel who will join us in a second.
It turns out the FBI originally lied to the ACLJ and said, Oh, we don't we don't have any correspondence talking points, FBI Justice Department.
It turned out they're four hundred and eighty-one pages.
And on and then on top of that, they redacted the actual talking points, and it raises so many different questions.
Seven thousand emails now have been found as it relates to Hillary Clinton, and the issue of unmasking is growing more and more every day.
So joining us, Jay Seculow, Greg Jarrett, Fox News anchor correspondent, Sarah Carter from Circa.com, and uh welcome all of you to the program.
Thanks for being with us.
Hey, Sean.
All right, Jay, why don't you update us on where you are?
Because now the uh the Department of Justice telling you that they've reopened other issues as well and what's happening.
So here's what's happened.
The FBI sent a letter, and we broke it on your broadcast yesterday, sent me a letter acknowledging that they had previously told us that there were no documents responsive to our FOIA request regarding the meeting between Attorney General Lynch and President Clinton.
Of course, we went to federal court against the Department of Justice on that, and they produced a number of documents, over 400 documents, including documents that uh contained in this particular case, emails between the Department of Justice and the FBI.
So those were actually in the documents we got.
So then the FBI obviously lied to us when they said there were no documents responsive.
They sent a letter to me saying that they uh the purpose of the letter was to advise in a change of status on our FOIA request and that they in fact uh reopened it under the uh new FOIA number uh because of what the FBI has determined that records potentially responsive to our request may exist.
Now it's interesting they base this letter, Sean, on the fact that uh and we made it very public last week with you and and others that in fact the FB the DOJ was in contact with the FBI.
We have subsequently learned, understand we're we're putting timelines together, going through these documents with a microscope.
We now have learned, and I we just figured this one out today when we were trying to draw some analysis on a particular email chain that there was actually direct emails from third parties to the FBI on the on this, including the Washington Post.
So it wasn't just as they put in the letter that we're releasing we're gonna now look because the Department of Justice says there's letters.
There's actually an external document, an email from the Washington Post reporter directly to the FBI's national uh press office regarding the same Clinton Lynch meeting.
So we are now going back into court to get the redacted versions, but now we're putting together the new timeline that shows in fact that the FBI just completely fabricated their response pre uh previously, uh the one they gave us last year was a complete false statement, a complete lie, and uh now we're going back deep, very deep on this.
But it's taking time.
I and people have been asking us, is it's only four hundred and eighty pages, and it's it's actually more than that.
It's four hundred and eighty documents, um various emails, including subparts.
But the problem is you've got to start drawing analysis on who's who, who are the people they're going to, and you've got to research each one of these people.
For instance, one of the people that received the email, in addition to James Comey's chief of staff, was a senior lawyer to the attorney general about this whole Clinton Lynch meeting.
Uh her name is Herwig, is her last name.
She was also a White House counsel previously, then was over at the Justice Department as a counsel to Loretta Lynch, advising on this.
She is now counseled to Diane Feinstein, whose committee is the committee that's investigating this.
Let me go to a conflict of interest.
I mean, on so many counts here.
But that's the kind of analysis we're doing now.
That's unbelievable.
And Greg, let me get you in on this and add to that the seven thousand emails discovered.
But I mean the fact that why would the Department of Justice, the FBI, supposed to be nonpolitical, first lie, and then all this evidence emerges, then you got three pages of talking points.
I thought they were supposed to be apolitical.
Well, they are supposed to be apolitical, and they're supposed to uh undertake the fair administration of Justice, and that means complying properly with uh a FOIA request.
You know, any time you work as a public official, anything you do in the course and scope of your work is not yours to keep.
It's not private or secret, absent classified information.
Everything is the public's property.
They have a right to it.
And they shouldn't have to file lawsuits to get the FBI, uh Department of Justice to comply with the law under the Federal Records Act.
And so to me, it was always suspicious that the FBI claimed, oh, we have no documents.
And and I always suspected they were just outright lying.
So either they were lying or the documents were lost and now suddenly been found, which is ludicrous, or they never understood the request to begin with, which is also preposterous.
So the lie is the only reasonable explanation.
Unbelievable.
And uh Sarah Carter, let me get your take on this.
And you know, there's also been a lot happening with unmasking, and this is important.
I don't know why Samantha Power would have in an election year, you know, have hundreds of unmasking requests, especially involving Trump people.
And and to me, where is the special counsel on that issue and and what are the latest developments in terms of where you're going with your investigations?
Well, cute Sean, I want to first address uh something that Greg and Jay brought up and you brought up.
I mean, the FBI is supposed to be a political and you know, interviewing a number of FBI agents uh who have been involved in a lot of these d various investigations, they go back to Quantico where they were told, you know, throw out your political bias here at the door.
Because from here on out, everything is about the fact.
And unfortunately, what we're seeing uh is the exact opposite of that within the FBI.
And and we can only hope that the new FBI chief, you know, the new director, uh, will change that uh erosion that's been happening inside the FBI over the last eight years and and bring it back to some deblis of uh justice, law and justice and law and order, and people won't have to be filing these lawsuits.
As far as the unmasking, I have been talking to so many sources, Sean.
Um people that are in the know who understand how these systems work, how they operate, and who should be accessing them.
And I am telling you right now, the people that I have been talking to find it highly, highly suspicious, irregular, and wrong that Samantha Power was unmasking hundreds, hundreds of Americans.
And there is a reason why she was doing that, and somebody needs to investigate that.
What was she unmasking?
What was she looking at?
How did those lead to other people?
Was she unmasking certain people to find people within the Trump administration?
What was going on there?
We need an investigation.
There needs to be a special counsel into this.
Believe me, there are a lot of people concerned about not just what Samantha Power was doing, but what Susan Rice was doing.
Now they're looking at Ben Rhodes.
I wrote that story over a week ago that it's expanded to Ben Rhodes.
This is not about politics.
This is about the rule of law and about our rights as Americans to privacy, to the foundation of our Constitution.
And so take it.
I want you to all stay right there.
I mean, we're going to take some time and get into this, and I I know the media has avoided most of these issues.
And the you're right.
This is about equal justice under the law.
This is about whether America will have a two-tier justice system.
This is about whether Americans, the the very, very powerful tools of surveillance are being used against the American people in a way that is illegal and unlawful and being used particularly against political opponents in an election year.
We're going to get to all of those questions, everything that's happening, and all of the potential crimes committed, where this may go with the Department of Justice.
Later on, the Attorney General Jeff Sessions will join us.com, Greg Jarrett, my Fox News colleague, and Jay Seculow, American Center for Law and Justice, and also a counsel for the president.
Um, you know, Jay, I run through my long list, and my list is is obviously Hillary Clinton.
Now we have the 7,000 new emails.
My biggest issue, the one that I have my eye on the most is uranium one.
We got Ukrainian influence.
We got unmasking and surveillance illegally and leaking intelligence.
Um we've got all of these these former Obama people out there, all of these what I believe are crimes that have committed, We don't see a lot of action.
And I know for myself and others, I get frustrated.
Well, there's a couple of things that could be happening that we don't know.
And number one is there could be an investigation of all of this going on right now by the uh FBI and the Department of Justice.
So it unlike the situation involving uh the Russia probe, which is you know that leaks all over the place.
Uh in general, you're not supposed to have leaks with these kind of proceedings.
So it could be going on.
That's number one.
Number two, there could be Inspector General reports.
Supposedly there is a s inspector of general's report coming on uh out regarding James Comey uh and the whole issue of releasing the private notes that he took, or he called them private notes.
I think they're government property.
I think most people agree with me that it's government property.
Uh that he released those in violation of the law, and there's an inspector general report coming out on that.
Uh there's another aspect of this I think you could, you know, take equally as significantly, and that is Sean, in light of everything that is forthcoming now and information we're starting to get, uh it would not surprise me if the uh FBI were to investigate uh these various matters that you've laid out.
And like I said, it may well be under investigation now.
But there's never a quick frick fix to that, and that's why with these cases that we do, you've got to be really vigilant and staying on top of it, because you just don't know where it's gonna end up unless you're very aggressive.
Yeah.
And and Greg, when you look at this, I I want to see the aggressiveness that Jay's referring to there.
Yeah, absolutely.
The Department of Justice needs to look into this, a special counsel needs to look into this.
You brought up uranium one.
We know by virtue of an associated press study that uh donors gain special access to Hillary Clinton.
Her emails prove it.
The AP found that half of nongovernmental people who gained access to Hillary Clinton as special as Secretary of State were donors.
Were they receiving special favors?
I'll give you just one example beyond uranium one, which seems, by the way, to be very compelling and persuasive.
Hillary Clinton i intervened on behalf of UBS to help the bank avoid the IRS.
And then suddenly her foundation receives an enormous donation from UBS and her husband receives a rather extraordinarily sizable payment for a speech, again, from the bank.
And it's a crime, as you know, to confer a benefit uh to anybody, including a foreign government in exchange for money, it is called bribery.
And if you use a foundation, it can arguably be rapidly.
Last question for Sarah.
Where is this all going from here?
And especially your your investigations.
Well, it is, it's difficult.
And I'm not this investigation is ongoing.
Um I have a lot to share with the public.
I know that if if you look hard enough, if the FBI is actually conducting an investigation into uranium one, there are people out there they have not spoken to yet that they need to speak with.
Uh this is a very important story, and it doesn't just deal with money, it deals with the national security of the United States, and uh it is something that I think is imperative that either a special counsel or the attorney general himself uh make it a priority.
Make this a priority.
Find out what really happened.
Find out why more than twenty percent of the uranium went to the Russians and find out who is behind all of this.
Where's the where's the money go?
That's what I want to know.
It always goes back to the money.
All right.
I want to thank you all.
We were not going to give up this story, and uh yeah, we'll get back to our top story of the day, and that is the media meltdown and the insanity that has ensued since uh the media doesn't want to listen to the president's remarks.
Sarah Carter, thank you.
Greg Jarrett, thank you.
Jay Sekulow, as always, we appreciate you being on.
We got to take a quick break.
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And the President did disband the CEO counsel after a number of resignations in light of everything that has happened here.
I want to go back and I want to play the news media in this country, and I want to get your reaction to all of this.
Um, because I think this is a very, very revealing moment for the country, for our history.
And the media now ha that has been so hostile since November the eighth, even before, and universal in what it is that they're saying.
There's only so many times I can go over the words of the president and and it doesn't matter.
They're just gonna continue their narrative, and their narrative's never gonna stop.
And my prediction is it's just gonna get worse and worse and worse.
And the one thing that gets lost in all of this is as any reasonable discussion is is almost impossible to have right now is you know what?
All these people attacking the president day in, day out, the deep state, Democrats never cooperate.
The media has been after him from day one.
And then you add to that Republicans, and they can't do their job and their attacks.
Never Trumpers seem to be the happiest people on earth to join with the Democrats, ignoring all of what the president said.
And you cannot ignore what the president said, I think, and make any honest assessment.
So here are the attacks as your media presents them to you.
Good evening, I'm Chuck Todd here in Washington.
Welcome to MTP Daily.
Folks, what I just saw gave me the wrong kind of chills.
Honestly, I'm a bit shaken from what I just heard.
In Spect, it's not just me.
Moments ago at Trump Tower, the president of the United States painted white nationalists and members of the alt-right as victims of what he described as club wielding members of the alt-left.
This press conference was in every way, shape, and form a car wreck for the president.
He was bleaching their white robes and he was shining their shields with his remarks today.
And he may say he condemned them, but that's not the way anybody in America read that.
Yeah, David Duke and other white nationalists actually praising the president of the United States yesterday for his words, and why not?
He is now officially become the president of the white nationalist, not only of America, but also of the white nationalist movement.
And anyone who is an American who believes in this country should be speaking out against this person and saying that it is wrong for him to do this.
And anyone who is, let me be plainly clear, anyone who is in that white house and who is supporting him is complicit in their racism as well.
Donald Trump, short of only maybe Woodrow Wilson and Andrew Jackson, is being himself more than any other previous president with disgraceful racial views.
That's the truth.
He's not pandering to people.
These are his views.
He's being himself.
Well, for Republicans in particular, they have to distance themselves from the president.
And the question is whether this is anything that can be repaired.
Anybody who makes remarks that can be received approvingly by Imperial Wizard of the KKK, David Duke, uh, is just somebody that Republicans can't uh embrace.
I don't care who you are, I don't want to hear anybody say my vote does not matter, because when you see a white supremacist at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, all you need, that's the only proof you need to show your vote does indeed matter.
But I think today, neo-Nazis are found comfort in this president in a way that they did on Saturday as well.
So I think people now realize that this strain of white nationalism uh in the White House is in fact uh something that is more closely associated with the president himself, I think, than they were willing to accept prior to yesterday.
But he's now given safe harbor to Nazis to white supremacists.
He's he's so disgraced, not just the Republican Party, but the country.
I really do.
Um you know, he's completely out of control.
He has no consistency from one day to another.
We essentially are a country without a president.
It was disturbing, Don.
I you know, I think we saw the president's true colors today, and and I'm not sure they were red, white, and blue.
So for me, it's what I said last night.
It's a complete meltdown mode for the for the for the media in this country, and you know, everybody agrees.
And the president said it again and again and again.
I I just you know, I think it was Don Jr. tweeted, I don't know how many times he has to say that these these white supremacist groups are what they are, and that's disgusting and despicable.
Um, you know, I show video, and you know, as much as we hate what they say, and we do, as much as America hates it, it's it's morally repugnant to good people.
The anger in in people when they see white supremacy, in my mind is more morally justifiable.
It's like a righteous anger.
But it doesn't give people the right to go in there and start whacking away and having fights.
And we showed the video of of fighting that went on, yes, with both sides.
And I why that is so hard for some to see, I don't know.
You know, this this is the oddest coalition of of thought when you think about the ACLU, biggest Trump haters on earth, you know, going out very strongly with the first amendment's a critical part of this country and protect vile, hateful, ignorant speech.
And they defended the right of this group to march.
I hate this group.
Everybody in America hates this group except those people that are a part of it.
Now, I don't know who provoked what on what side, when, where I was, I wasn't there.
I don't know why the police weren't there.
Um, but we we do know that there were people on the ground, you know, the Antifa protesters on tape.
There are camera shots of them being involved in this.
And I don't know where the police are.
And it's you don't have a right to fight back that way.
You have a right to shout them down, to shut them up any way you want, and that's a good thing to do.
But you know, you go back to Saturday.
I'm just I'm trying to see what part of the of Trump's statement on Saturday the media didn't hear that we've all got to be united, condemn all that hate stands for.
No place for this kind of violence in America.
Let's come together as one.
Do we not know who he's talking about here?
Is it not obvious?
Or, you know, remember we must remember this truth, no matter our color, creed, religion, or political party.
We're all Americans first.
And then he made comments on Monday.
We took those comments.
Then he made comments yesterday.
That was ignored in the course of the press conference because he did say that people that were involved in the physical fighting in this instance were also in the wrong, which is uh a fact.
I mean, is the for example people hate what I say.
Does that give them the right to come up and punch me in the face?
They don't like Hannity and he's a Reagan conservative.
No, it doesn't do that.
And the sad issue, as I said in the beginning of the show today, is when you look at everything that has happened since November 8th, there is one commonality in all of this is nothing.
That this is a profound moment where we could be changing fundamentally the country to help the people that need help the most.
In other words, everybody that I talked about for a year leading up to the election, who we defined as the forgotten men and forgotten women.
Nothing is happening for them as the the total fixation goes into one issue, and the attacks remain focused on one individual.
And so it's a no-win situation in that sense, and people, Americans are gonna suffer.
Anyway, let's get your thoughts on all of this.
You know, and and you know, the double standard is so clear.
I mean, you got Obama meeting with Black Lives Matter, a group that says, What do we want?
Dead cops.
When do we want them now?
You know, people wanted Trump to rush to judgment that didn't work out well for Obama in high-profile racial cases.
Ferguson, Baltimore, Freddie Gray, uh Freddie Gray in Baltimore, Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, or in the case with Cambridge Police.
Didn't work out well.
And he ended up jumping the gun without evidence and coming out wrong.
But he's not held to the same standard.
Anyway, let's go to uh Sean is in Florida.
Sean, hi, how are you?
Welcome to the uh program.
Glad you called.
Hi, thanks for taking my call.
You know, I listened to that tape that you just played, and I'm disgusted.
Chuck Todd wants to say he's shaking.
I'm shaken.
I'm shaken at the entire left wing media because they are responsible for dividing this nation more than anyone else in this country.
This nation before Obama was it may not have been perfect, and yes, there was racism.
Racism, it did exist, but nothing like it is now.
And right now, what is happening is one of the people you just had on, uh, you played the tape, and they said this president isn't of the red, white, and blue.
Well, you know what?
The left isn't of the red, white, and blue.
Because when you refuse to accept an election, we are not, we are not of a dictatorship.
We are not a communist nation.
When you refuse to accept the election of a president, and you refuse to accept the fact that he's trying to make this country great again.
He is trying to do things for this country.
You refuse that.
And then you go and when people protest, gee, the left gets to protest.
Do you ever see the right rough up, punch, hit, and do things to to the left?
No.
Instead, the right comes out, yes, there were white supremacists there.
And that wasn't right.
There's always gonna be they're gonna argue that those are the conservatives, and and my argument has been I don't know those people, and I've been a uh a conservative on the air for almost 30 years now.
I don't know who any of them, and no does any conservative that I know.
And and that's what that would be their argument back.
You know, it's uh I'll give you another example.
J. William Fulbright, known segregationist, was the mentor, you know, a guy that saw uh that signed the Southern Manifesto in opposition to Brown versus Board of Education with other Democrats filibustering the Civil Rights Act.
Well, that was the mentor of uh Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton we have on tape saying Jane uh I'm sorry, Robert Byrd, the former Klansman, is in fact her mentor.
Today our country has lost a true American original.
My friend and mentor Robert Seabird.
Senator Byrd was a man of surpassing eloquence and nobility.
It is almost impossible to imagine the United States Senate without Robert Byrd.
The level of ignorance about you know, I go back to this Mona Charon piece that she wrote in twenty fifteen, whitewashing the Democratic Party's history.
And she talks about Jay William Fulbright, she talks about the Southern Manifesto.
She talks about Al Gore's father being nowhere to nowhere to be seen.
Um when, you know, and Al Gore lied about it when he was running.
Robert Byrd is a former Klansman.
Well, he was the the Senate majority leader, Senator uh President Pro Tim, you know, former Ku Klux Klan guy, and you know, George Wallace was a Democrat.
Um we can go back in time even further.
And if you you want to look at controversial comments of Woodrow Wilson, just pure racism on display, Democrat, you know, the Party of Lincoln was the Republican Party, Lyndon Johnson needed Republicans for the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, and the narrative that has been politically advanced, the false narrative every two to four years is that Republicans and conservatives are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic.
And that is, you know, I said the other day, they're trying to bludgeon President Trump with this.
And you got everybody now that is there's absolutely zero sense of perspective that now exists.
It's it's like a collective insanity is taken over, an alternate, an alternate route reality for a lot of people.
They're gonna say, Hannity, you're the one off base.
Don't you see it?
No, I actually paid attention to the words that the president tweeted, the things that he actually said.
I looked at the actual videos.
You have taken so much of it out of context.
What Chuck Todd said was just factually inaccurate.
But truth apparently doesn't matter.
As we continue, wide open phones, then we'll get to our news roundup information overload hour.
Also, the attorney general Jeff Sessions checks in with us today, uh checking in as we say hi to Lisa in Kansas City, Missouri.
What's up, Lisa?
How are you?
Glad you called.
Thank you, Sean.
I I just wanted to ask you something because I listened to you and I've heard I'm not I I'm not anything.
I mean, I guess I'm an independent and I see both sides of stories and and Obamacare.
I know this is a big, big issue.
I know people are paying a lot in premiums.
I know people had to go part-time.
I know there are lots and lots of problems.
But my my issue is you have to point out the fact that I think up to 20 million people got insurance under this plan.
So why can't we just get them to fix this plan?
And why does it have to be so dismantled?
I mean, I just think we have to point out that.
All right, so at least what you're saying to me under this plan.
What you're saying to me is this plan has worked out well for you.
No, I don't even have Obamacare.
Okay.
But but but here are just indisputable facts and simple truths, and I know that a lot of people are having a hard time time with simple truth today.
And that is that millions lost their doctors, millions lost their plans.
The average increase, premium wise, remember, we will promise to keep doctors, keep plans, save $2,500 a year per person per family.
On average, it's six to eight thousand dollar increases.
We expect another thirty percent across the board increase next year.
It's just unsustainable, and it always was.
And you know, what what it sadly did is it took the young and the healthy and pushed them Into plans, even rendering plans like catastrophic plans illegal, which is something that a young person would want.
In other words, they want the plan, God forbid they got a heart attack, cancer, or have a bad accident.
They don't need the plan that you know people that are older need that tend to get sick uh based on their age.
And so those things they end up funding the sick, the elderly, and the uninsured.
And it becomes a big redistribution of wealth scheme on top of the, you know, $20 trillion in debt we have.
Without any health insurance.
And then the hospital has to put the bill and it's, And in the long run, something has to change, or we're gonna lose our hospitals.
Something has to change.
We can't go on like we used to ten years ago.
I mean, even with a good private health insurance plan, sometimes you have to give up your doctor.
It's a terrible thing.
There's no doubt about that.
But what I'm saying is you just something had to change in order to benefit all of us, including the hospitals out there.
That's all I'm saying.
I appreciate your call.
I really do.
Um look, it's sad Republicans had their moment.
And now we've got to move on to other issues.
At some point, I assume they're gonna buy piecemeal take this thing apart.
At least I hope so.
Anyway, we'll take a quick break.
We'll come back.
News roundup information overload is next.
We'll debate the top story of the day, and that is the reaction to the president in his press conference yesterday and the media meltdown that ensued.
That's straight ahead.
Folks, what I just saw gave me the wrong kind of chills.
Honestly, I'm a bit shaken from what I just heard.
Inspect, it's not just me.
Moments ago at Trump Tower, the President of the United States painted white nationalists and members of the alt-right as victims of what he described as club wielding members of the alt-left.
This press conference was in every way, shape, and form a car wreck for the president.
He was bleaching their white robes, and he was shining their shields with his remarks today.
And he may say he condemned them, but that's not the way anybody in America read that.
Yeah, David Duke and other white nationalists actually praising the president of the United States yesterday for his words, and why not?
He is now officially become the president of the white nationalist, not only of America, but also of the white nationalist movement.
And anyone who is an American who believes in this country should be speaking out against this person and saying that it is wrong for him to do this.
And anyone who is, let me be plainly clear.
Anyone who is in that white house and who is supporting him is complicit in their racism as well.
Donald Trump, short of only maybe Woodrow Wilson and Andrew Jackson, is being himself more than any other previous president with disgraceful racial views.
That's the truth.
He's not pandering to people.
These are his views.
He's being himself.
Well, for Republicans in particular, they have to distance themselves from the president.
And the question is whether this is anything that can be repaired.
Anybody who makes remarks that can be received approvingly by Imperial Wizard of the KKK, David Duke, uh, is just somebody that Republicans can't uh embrace.
I don't care who you are, I don't want to hear anybody say my vote does not matter, because when you see a white supremacist at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, all you need that's the only proof you need to show your vote does indeed matter.
I think today neo-Nazis are found comfort in this president in a way that they did on Saturday as well.
I think people now realize that this strain of white nationalism uh in the White House is in fact uh something that is more closely associated with the president himself, I think, than they were willing to accept prior to yesterday.
But he's now given safe harbor to Nazis to white supremacists.
He's he's so disgraced, not just the Republican Party, but the country.
I think this guy's deeply ill.
I really do.
Um you know, he's completely out of control.
He has no consistency from one day to another.
We essentially are a country without a president.
Let me ask you this.
What about the fact they came charging that they came charging with clubs in their hand, swinging clubs?
Do they have any problem?
I think they do.
You know, as far as I'm concerned.
That was a horrible, horrible day.
Wait a minute, I'm not finished.
I'm not finished fake news.
That was a horrible day.
I will tell you something.
I watched those very closely, much More closely than you people watched it.
And you have uh you you had a group on one side that was bad, and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent.
And nobody wants to say that.
But I'll say it right now.
You had a group, you had a group on the other side that came charging in without a permit, and they were very, very violent.
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And uh we did show you video again and again last night, there were two sides fighting.
There was complete mayhem.
I don't know where the police department was.
There's no doubt the people that provoked it were the white supremacists.
As I've been saying, they they bring out a morally justifiable anger in per people.
What is the ACLU of Virginia said that does not give you they have the right to say what they're gonna say?
It doesn't give you a right, even though you want to to punch them in the face.
Um that can't happen, because that's the end of civil society altogether.
The media that has gone all over this, and I I keep saying that as we watch this collective national meltdown because they don't want to listen to what the president said on Saturday.
They don't want to listen to what he said on Monday.
They only hear what they want to hear yesterday, and they then take it out of context as Chuck Todd clearly did, because the president yesterday did not portray white nationalists as victims.
He just said that there were two sides responsible in the melee part of that.
And the president, you know, he's he said it on side.
The first amendment is a critical part of our democracy.
It protects vile, hateful, ignorant speech for this reason the ACLU of Virginia defended them.
And um that was what the ACLU said of Virginia.
But the president, he was very clear and very outspoken, and so many times it's it's almost at this point had you know hard to even count how many times.
And we've been playing it.
We also played what he said over the years.
And you know, at the end of the day, we have to ask ourselves this question you know, are they accurately portraying who this president is is in what he said?
All right, joining us to discuss, we have Dr. Carol Swain and Dr. Wendy Osepho is with us.
Welcome both of you back to the Well, I guess Dr. Swain, you've never been on my radio show before because you've been on TV a bunch, but it's been a while.
No, this is my first time on the radio show, and uh I really welcome the opportunity to try to share some light on the confusion.
All right, please do.
Well, one of the reasons why they're having so much difficulty uh communicating to people is that they are blurring distinctions among and between Americans, and they're painting everyone with the same broad brush.
When I wrote the book, The New White Nationalism in America, it's challenged integration.
I called it the new white nationalism to distinguish it from old-style white supremacy.
And uh I would argue that there are four groups of white Americans, uh the um white supremacists, tiny percentage of Americans, but a much larger group that I would call new white nationalists or alt-right who are not necessarily uh espousing any uh hatred towards other groups, but they are making a case for white rights, white identity, for white people to organize, and then you have white people who are just trying to make a living.
They may have voted for Donald Trump, but they're concerned about America, and then the last group are the leftist whites that are trying to overthrow the c country.
Let me go to Dr. Wendy Acephal, your response.
So all of this is just really putting our country, our nation in a bad place.
Now, what I do know is that the response in which Trump gave during the infrastructure speech, piece by piece, negated everything he said at the press conference before.
And it is not a good place to put our nation.
What we know, and what we know unequivocally, is that a young lady by the name of Heather Hayes passed away.
Her body is being laid to rest today.
So whatever happened was not peaceful.
Whatever happened was not both sides.
You can have freedom of speech even if it's speech we do not agree with, but that does not allow you the right to hit someone with a car.
That does not allow you the right to kill someone's daughter.
So our nation needs leadership that starts from the top.
We're all individuals And we're strong on our own, but right now when we are a country divided, we need that morality.
We need that leader to say what's right is right, what's wrong is wrong, and we need to come together.
Because right now we're starting to splinter off.
And that's what's occurring.
What's happening now is we have going deeper into a nefarious place than we were before Charlottesville even happened.
And that's why leadership is so critical at moments of and junctures like these.
So we have to really come together and I call on the president.
I I you know, I was on Fox and Friends this morning.
I call on the president and and my colleague from the other side of the aisle.
We came together to say, Mr. President, you are the president of these United States of America.
And if we ever needed a leader in your 200 plus days, it is now.
So he has to rise to the occasion.
Did the media miss all the times he condemned white supremacy, Nazis, David Duke, because he did it again and again and again and and Carol Swain, did you not see both sides fighting?
Well, first of all, I would argue again that there were different kinds of people at that rally and that the president was correct in saying that there were he was condemning all forms of hatred.
And in the case of the young man who rammed his car into the crowd, we don't normally blame a whole group for the actions of one person.
You mean like you mean like the guy that killed uh I'm sorry, the guy that shot up Steven Scalise and had a target list of Republicans, you wouldn't blame Bernie Sanders because he was a Bernie Sanders supporter.
I'm sorry I didn't catch that.
I said uh Carol, so in other words, like we had uh an assassination attempt against Steve Scalise and all these other people were injured.
And you had uh an assassination list, and it turns out that guy was a Bernie Sanders supporter.
You don't hold Bernie Sanders responsible for what some nut case does.
But I also want to say is that I don't know that that man, the young man went there to ram his car.
I think when the police failed to keep both sides apart that uh there was such uh a heated atmosphere that he clearly acted out of rage, and we need to separate that from uh these accusations that the president, you know, the white nationalists and the white supremacist.
I don't believe that he is, but I do think that he accurately sees that there's a lot of of injustice taking place in the sense that there are white people that don't hate anyone.
I go to church with many of them.
They're working in the black community, they're working in minority communities, but they're concerned about certain policy issues that are not being addressed, and we cannot have a racial conversation where only one side gets to speak.
Your reaction, Wendy.
This is this is an excuse.
And I will talk to everyone as if I would talk to one of my children that is four and two.
If you were surrounded by bad people, you have two decisions to make.
One, you walk away and you alienate yourself and you say, I'm not a part of this, or two, you continue to stand there and you become bad just like the rest of them.
So for us to sit here and say, not everybody who was there were neo-Nazis, were KKK, were were were uh part of um you know white supremacist, if you hold that to be true, then the people who were there that were good, air quotes, they inherently became bad.
Because I don't know about you, Sean.
If someone beside me said I'm a Nazi and I want to stay here and remove Jews, Sean, would you continue to stand by that person or would you say, Hey, those are your views, but I'm not part of that, so I'm going to humbly bow out and move.
So let's not have to be a good thing.
Well, but my my answer is you always speak up for what's right.
You always speak up for the truth.
You always confront, especially in the in the vitriol of hatred, racism, anti-Semitism, et cetera.
Uh I've been outspoken about this my whole career.
And the next thing that, you know, but you what you can have, and I think the ACL you touched on, is w I I despise these people as ninety-eight percent of Americans do.
You have extremists.
But people that on the other side don't get to go up to them as much As we don't like them and what they say and punch them in the face either.
And there that did happen.
You're not you're not denying that.
Were they do we have video tape?
Yes or no of them fighting those people they disliked and hate.
Because right now, Carol, do we give you an answer?
and then we've got a break.
And we're arguing with the people who know that.
All I can tell you is that, in my opinion, Black Lives Matter, and TIFA, the new Black Panther Party, that there's hate groups on all sides.
And they come together, they instigate, they were at the Trump rally, And we need to hold them accountable for what happened, as well as the law enforcement who didn't do that job.
Okay, so you saw the tape as the president did then, Carol, that there were both sides punching and fighting, right?
Yes, and I watched CNN last night, and I was just shocked at the people they had speaking and the lies that were being spoken as real news, and I think that's irresponsible journalism, and I believe all of this is about trying to take down the president.
Russia didn't work, and so now we'll use Charlottesville.
All right, Dr. Osefo, Dr. Swain, stay right there.
We got to take a quick break.
We'll come back.
We'll continue.
We'll continue.
All right, we now continue with Dr. Wendy Oseppo and Dr. Carol Swain.
Wendy, I have a question for you.
So I I think Carol brings up a good point.
So we have a group, Black Lives Matter, that is on tape chanting what do we want dead cops?
When do we want them now?
We have them chanting pigs in a blanket, meaning police, fry them like bacon.
And then we have Black Lives Matter activists that were invited to the Obama White House.
Is that wrong?
And do you think the media by not covering like they are trying to cover this are unfair?
First of all, what you're saying is a false equivalency.
Second of all, black lives calling for dead cops is not a bad thing.
That's the question.
First of all, the false equivalency.
Second of all, Black Lives Matter, there was a group of people who were chanting Fry the Pigs uh, you know, in the blanket.
Black Lives Matter came out immediately that same day and denounced that comment.
Okay.
Third, my brother is a police officer.
My grandfather's a police officer.
I respect the men in uniform.
Carol, should they have been invited to the Obama White House?
I'm sorry, I didn't catch that.
Should they have been invited to the Obama White House?
Yes, they certainly were.
And when I wrote the New White Nationalism and I warned about the racial conflicts that I saw uh coming when President Obama took office, we were optimistic initially, but the policies and programs of the political left make it far more likely that we will have a racial uh conflict in the sense that it's like throwing fuel on a fire.
And so it's been set up to keep us all divided.
We need to move away from identity politics towards the American national identity.
That's the only way out of this.
You know, and by the way, that did echo some of the comments that the president made on Saturday about...
Yeah, we're all Americans, we're all one.
And uh we all should condemn hate in whatever form it comes in.
And what we saw with the Nazi white supremacists is hate.
Nobody's disputing it.
Uh Wendy, thank you, and Carol, thank you.
Good to see you both.
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Paul and Alta Marano had come in and wanted to buy cigarettes.
Alta Marano then pulled a gun and pointed it at Grant.
Grant immediately offered up the cigarettes.
And Altamirano then shot him point blank in the face.
My son's death was completely preventable.
If the federal government wants our police officers to tear immigrant families apart, we will refuse to do it.
My youngest son Joshua was a senior in high school and had his Whole life ahead of him.
He went to school and never returned.
As Josh walked up to the doors of the school that morning, Hermilo Morales walked up as well.
At trial, the killer testified on his behalf and gave exact testimony on how he systematically killed Joshua.
To be clear about what Chicago is, it always will be a sanctuary city.
You are safe in Chicago.
You are secure in Chicago, and you are supported in Chicago.
He first threw a punch in the face so that Joshua's vision was messed up and he could not fight back.
He next knee Joshua in an abdomen so that he would go to the ground.
Josh went to the ground as his spleen was sliced in half.
The killer was aggravated that it was not over yet.
He was a black belt and mixed martial arts and thought he could do this without any blood.
He was aggravated it was not over.
He said he grew tired of watching bloody bubbles come from Joshua's nose as he was trying to breathe.
Next he took a closet rod and beat Josh over the head again and again until the rod broke in four pieces.
We are not going to sacrifice a half million people who live among us who are part of our community.
We're not going to tear families apart.
So we will do everything we know how to do to resist that.
Joshua's still breathing.
Next he strangled him.
He let him go to see if it was over.
No, it's not over.
So he continued until there were no more bloody bubbles.
He must have said it six times from the stand.
He waited and he watched him die.
He tied Josh's body up, stuffed in the back seat of our truck, bought gas, dumped Josh in a field and set his body on fire.
The killer went home, took a shower, and went to see a movie, had popcorn and coke.
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If you want to be a part of the program, uh you recognize some of the voices there, the the mother of Joshua Wilkerson and and Grant Ronnebac's father Steve Ronaback, he was the one that was working at the quick trip in Arizona and overnight you know, here's a kid 22 years old, he's making money, and and it's he gets killed over a pack of cigarettes.
Now the Attorney General of the United States, Jeff Sessions, has been all over this, and he's been warning Sanctuary Cities, uh, as he discussed earlier today, to comply with immigration law or they will lose their federal money.
The uh Attorney General of the United States joins us now.
Mr. Attorney General, sir, how are you?
Uh, thank you, Sean.
It's good to be with you.
Well, I've got to give you a lot of praise for this.
Yeah, I have interviewed so many of the families that lost loved ones to illegal immigrants over the years, and when you look at the statistics as it relates to sanctuary cities, the C in August 2016 study of the relationship between those policies and crime rates show that cities refusing to cooperate with federal immigration authorities significantly have consistently higher violent crime rates than do non-sanctuary cities.
So it's just a it's a it's a data issue, even at this point, correct?
It's common sense.
Uh there can be no doubt, whatever the crime rate is in a city, a city who refuses to allow the federal government to devour deport criminal aliens is creating more crime in their city.
It's just that simple.
And they also, as your lead-in shows, they're just basically calling on people illegally in the country to come to their city, promising them they won't be deported, even if they commit crime, even if they uh evolved in a gang or assaults or selling heroin, they don't get deported from uh they won't even call the federal government who has the responsibility to remove them from the country.
Uh it's just really uh I thought we had a bipartisan consensus that at least criminal aliens would be deported.
Uh certainly everybody who enters the country unlawfully is subject to being deported.
But for those who come unlawfully and then commit crimes, it's just uh beyond belief that cities wouldn't cooperate in that.
Mr. Attorney General, we even have more data.
When Phoenix dropped their sanctuary city status from 2008 to 2009 in a one-year period, the murder rate in that city dropped 27 percent.
Other crimes fell as well.
Auto thefts down 36 percent, robberies down 23 percent.
Um, just general thefts also went down by 19 percent, burglaries down 14 percent, assaults down thirteen percent.
But the rates fell again, but the the smaller numbers, I mean, it is it seems that just data point-wise, if criminal illegal immigrants see that they are protected, they're gonna gravitate towards those cities.
How do the cities justify assisting in law breaking?
Why do I think that I'd be handcuffed, perp walked, mugshotted, and put in jail if I just disobeyed the laws?
The Phoenix numbers are stunning, actually, and uh they that's common sense.
And you are correct.
These cities are making, I believe, a colossal error.
Among other so I just urge them to reevaluate what they're doing.
It's not too late, uh, both for their own financial benefit, but also for the safety of their city and for good policy.
Cities and mayors do not get to decide on um immigration policy for the United States.
Trump has been clear we want a lawful system of immigration, ones that serves our national interest, and admitting and keeping criminal illegal aliens in the country cannot be in our national interest, and we at the Department of Justice are committed to supporting our Board of Patrol and ICE officers at Homeland Security and doing everything we can to restore common sense and lawfulness and fairness to this system.
You know, what I never understood, Mr. Attorney General, I I always viewed that we're a nation of laws and and our laws are founded upon our constitution.
And for the last administration and for these individual cities to ignore the law of the land the way they have, there seems to have never been any accountability for that.
And I don't know, maybe it it's sort of like you know, I I pay my taxes.
It's sort of like it there are laws, you obey the laws.
I I've never understood this effort or this belief system that says that you can just ignore the law.
And then when you see that as a result of ignoring the law, i you know, i in the case of this one guy, uh I talked about his his father, he's been on the program many, many times, Grant Ronnebeck.
Well, the illegal immigrant that shot him in the face and murdered him had already been convicted for holding a uh raping a woman, kidnapping her, and holding her hostage for an entire week, was let go and was not deported.
This is happening all over.
It just makes no sense.
Look, it is a I I've been in law enforcement for a long time before I had this job, and uh it's the way it works is that if you h if a city arrests somebody for a crime and they know another jurisdiction has uh charges against this individual, they hold them and cooperate in turning them over to the next jurisdiction so that justice can be done there.
These people are breaching that c collaborative approach.
These cities and and sanctuary jurisdictions between federal and state law enforcement and flat refusing to even allow their police officers to tell the federal officers that they're holding somebody who's illegally in the country who's committed a serious crime.
Now you're uh you're attorney general in Alabama, isn't that aiding and abetting in in a crime?
I mean, I I I just to me it's so flagrant um a violation of law.
So what so what's gonna happen now to these cities, uh, Mr. Attorney General, what are you gonna do from here?
Uh you're obviously warning these cities that you they better comply with the rule of law or or they'll lose federal money, and that money is significant, correct?
And and we've heard, for example, Mayor Emmanuel in Chicago constantly saying he doesn't care.
Well, he Chicago sued us.
Um instead of uh spending their money uh uh in and helping the police be cooperative, they barred the police from being cooperative, barred the police from uh allowing the city uh to actually remove criminal aliens that are illegally in the country and do and due to be just supported.
So they're filing a lawsuit against us and we're going to court.
What our uh plans are to say with regard to the grants that we're issuing that if you don't cooperate on these uh matters, it's a condition of the grant, and and you don't get the money.
And you have to certify that you're in in compliance, and you have have to prove you're in compliance.
And if you're not cooperating and reasonable can uh partnership arrangement with the federal government, you shouldn't get federal money.
There's no reason for us to reward cities who flatly refuse and and actually act To undermine the laws of the United States.
You know, I went down, I've been down to the border, Mr. Attorney General, some almost a dozen times covering issues involving the border.
I've seen the drug warehouses, floor to ceiling, massive, massive rooms.
I've been there uh on horseback, all terrain vehicle.
I've been in helicopters out on boats, I've been on foot, and I've been all the way from the Rio Grande through San Diego in an office building where a tunnel had been dug from Mexico up into that specific office.
So I've seen an awful lot while I was while I was down there.
And my most recent trip was with then Governor Rick Perry, and I sat through a session where they actually gave the the statistics.
I have it all on video where the Department of Public Safety, you know, they had a PowerPoint presentation in a seven-year period between two thousand and eight and two thousand and fourteen.
Over six hundred thousand crimes were committed by illegal immigrants um against Texans, including, you know, thousands of homicides and sexual crimes.
Now, I know it's a border town.
I know it's a border state, but I I just don't think people are aware of the magnitude of the problem, nor the impact financially it has on the criminal justice system, on the medical system, the health care system, and on the educational system.
It's uh huge cost.
It's a uh you think of the prison and and then the just the cost of the victims of crime uh that they suffer uh and the psychological uh pain that they suffer, often traumatic for years.
So these are a big cost of crime.
We cannot allow this to happen.
We're also seeing across the border incredible surges in crime.
Cities that used to be safe, now Americans are afraid to even go and visit in those cities, and it can cross the border.
And it's already beginning to uh impact uh on the American side of the border.
So we need to end this lawlessness.
Uh the wall is uh a huge step in the right direction.
People are not entitled to enter this country unlawfully.
They just are not.
They should apply and wait their time, and if they don't get admitted, they don't get admitted, and then not entitled to enter unlawfully.
Give me a break.
How simple is this?
So I can I I do believe that uh with the support of President Trump, uh, the good leadership we're getting out of the Department of Homeland Security, our work at Department of Justice.
Uh we can continue to see the improvement.
We're down about 50 percent.
Uh the uh the illegal entrants are down about 50 percent.
We are not satisfied.
We want to zero.
We want to restore a lawful system, and we're not satisfied with even halfway.
But it does reduce the amount of time and effort and money you have to expend uh when through the president's leadership, we've already seen you know, we reduced the number we have to deal with.
I have a last question.
I'm not sure to the extent how much you can talk about them.
I know you mentioned there's a federal investigation of Charlottesville underway, and I know you've also spoken about an investigation into leaking.
Um is there any update you have on those issues or tell us a little bit what they're about?
Well, there's no doubt uh the FBI moved immediately, even Saturday night.
They were conducting interviews in Ohio and gathering evidence, and so we're supporting the local uh police in Virginia and working collaboratively with them.
We're also uh investigating all the possible federal charges uh that are uh possible there.
You know, people are are entitled uh to um um march and to counter march in America, and they should be protected in those rights, and we intend to do so.
Um with regard to the leaks, uh yes, we are working hard at those.
Um a lot of these things are uh um bitter political leaks, then some of them are dramatically damaging to national security.
Uh they are a high priority of ours, and we're gonna continue to work on it.
We've been we've had a dramatic increase in leak investigations.
FBI and Department of Justice are increasing uh our uh resources and personnel dedicated to that.
It's just out of control.
It cannot be exact accepted, it's unlawful, and we need to uh stop it.
They're not easy cases to make, as you well know.
Uh, but uh we are working at it aggressively.
All right, Mr. Attorney General, always a pleasure to have you.
Thank you for uh updating us uh on that and restoring the rule of law and order and and and investigating these important matters really matter to the American people, and we hope you'll come on the show whenever you can.
We really appreciate your time, sir.
Thank you.
Good to be with you, Sean.
Good to be with you, Sean.
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