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	I've always thought I've been pretty good with people, and I've basically spent a conflict-free life.
	You know, I'm not a guy that ever got into fights on the street and with the public and everybody, but I've done my time.
	You know, I've done it as well and as respectfully as I think anybody can.
	I think if you talk to the wardens, them, they'll tell you I've been there.
	I gave them my word.
	I believe in the jury system.
	I've honored their verdict.
	I've not complained for nine years.
	All I've done is try to be helpful and encourage the guys around there.
	Hey, man, do your time, fight in court, and don't do anything that's going to extend your time.
	And that's the life I've tried to live because I want to get back to my kids.
	All right, and have these programs prepared you to return to the community setting?
	I believe so.
	You know, I look, I've missed a lot of time, like 36 birthdays with my children.
	And, you know, I spent the 12 years leading up to this incident in Vegas raising two kids in LA.
	I mean, I'm sorry, in Miami.
	And, you know, with all the media stuff, you know, we got these guys like Jeffrey Felix and make it up stories and stuff.
	That was happening out on the street, also.
	But I was able to keep them to keep their eye on the ball.
	They got great grades.
	They went to the college of their choice, and I ended up missing their graduation because of it.
	Trust me, I wish it would have never happened.
	But as I said, the courses that I take, and I hope it helps me more if I run into those conflicts with my kids.
	I'm not a guy that has conflicts on the street.
	I don't expect to have any when I leave here.
	But I feel that I'm much better prepared, but more so from, I think, my commitment to being a better Christian, because I thought I was a good guy.
	I had some problems with fidelity in my life, but I've always been a guy that pretty much got along with everybody.
	Mr. Simpson, you organized this crime in which two victims were robbed at gunpoint.
	It was a serious crime, and there was no excuse for it.
	You deserve to be sent to prison.
	You have been in prison now almost nine years, the minimum amount opposed by the court.
	You have complied with the rules of the prison.
	You have programmed in an acceptable manner.
	You have no prior conviction of criminal activity.
	You are a low risk to reoffend on our guidelines.
	You have community support and stable release plans.
	We've heard from you and from your victim.
	The question here, as with all parole hearings, is whether or not you have served enough time in prison on this case.
	Considering all of these factors, my vote is to grant your parole effective when eligible.
	We believe that we're a fair board.
	We believe that we're a consistent board.
	I will let you know that that consistency also goes to parole.
	And we do not look kindly upon parole violations.
	And if I cast my vote to Grant and it concludes the hearing, our expectation would be that you not violate even the simplest condition of parole.
	Having said that, I am prepared to cast the vote.
	I am prepared to ask the commissioners to set conditions.
	If that happens, we will produce an order sometime in the next 15 to 20 minutes that will be faxed to you or presented to you at the institution, and it will become a public record.
	So based on all of that, Mr. Simpson, I do vote to grant parole when eligible.
	And that will conclude this hearing.
	Thank you.
	All right, there it is.
	O.J. Simpson has been granted parole after nine years in prison.
	And we'll get all the details about the release, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
	You know what's fascinating here?
	I remember where OJ impacted my early career in television.
	And I'll give you some background here.
	And the reason I'm bringing this up and that it's even relevant is I'm looking at a room of people that know very little about the case.
	And there are some of you that are wondering and pondering, why, what is this such a big deal?
	You didn't know the USC running back Phenom that was O.J. Simpson.
	You didn't know the Buffalo Bills running back that was one of, by far, at the time, the best in the NFL, one of the most gifted and talented athletes ever.
	And very few of you even remember nine years ago when he was put in prison because, you know, he's a leading participant in an armed robbery, which is considered a violent felony.
	And he was drunk at the time this all happened, an aggravated condition that the parole board could have considered against him.
	This is the outcome that everybody, by the way, was predicting coming into today.
	And generally speaking, what he had a 30-year term or 33-year term, whatever it was, generally speaking, you think, oh, nine years is not a lot of time to spend in prison.
	Apparently, been an exemplary inmate and did his job and tried to help other people.
	Wasn't a pain in the neck.
	And except for the Daily Mail article yesterday, I don't know if you saw that article.
	I'm not talking about it, so forget it.
	You'll have to look it up yourself.
	I was like, oh, my gosh, tabloid news has gone absolutely crazy.
	But it's so funny.
	But this has impacted my life, this story.
	I remember watching, covering this hours and hours and hours of coverage.
	It's where I got to know Mark Furman.
	It's where I got, I've known, you know, Robert Shapiro for years.
	I have a great story with Neil Bortz and me and Robert Shapiro.
	Right after the verdict came, I had Robert Shapiro.
	I stole him from Neil Borts and put him on my radio show and kept him from going to Neil's show.
	Not on purpose.
	Well, yeah, on purpose because I was a competitive radio guy.
	It's a great radio story.
	And I remember, for example, my career in some ways actually was impacted by this.
	You know, when I first met Geraldo Riveras, I was called from Atlanta where I was broadcasting locally, and I was called up to New York.
	And I did Geraldo's daytime show.
	And that was after I had been called to New York to do Phil Donahue show.
	Phil Donahue was beating up talk radio even back in that day.
	Phil Donahue puts us all out on the stage.
	Neil Bortz was on that show too.
	Tom Likas was on that show.
	And he puts us all out on the stage.
	You see those guys up there?
	They're the ones saying bad things about your president.
	I doubt liberal Phil would be doing a show today about the horrible Rosie O'Donnell, Johnny Depp, Kathy Griffin, severed heads issues, and Hollywood's fascination with the president being dead.
	I don't know if he'd be doing that show because it doesn't fit his liberal politics.
	So, but I remember a number of times being talking and talking and following this, and then the bloody socks and the blood in the Bronco and the blood at the scene, and the knife, and he takes off.
	And I recently saw Netflix special about, I think it was Rob Kardashian, and OJ's assistant gets out of the car with OJ.
	O.J. goes in the house, the assistant comes out with the bag.
	She puts the bag down, and Rob Kardashian runs away with the bag.
	And people are wondering, well, what was in that bag?
	And a lot of people think, okay, this was a relatively small memorabilia robbery, and he got 30 years.
	Was it basically just to get back to him because everybody thought he was guilty?
	And then I remember the great divide in the country.
	I'll never forget where I was when the verdict came in.
	I was in a newsroom and do a local radio, and the verdict comes in.
	And everything that we saw in the country, there was this divide along racial lines in the country.
	And I saw it right in front of me.
	I was stunned.
	And then there were people celebrating because they felt like this was unfair.
	And, you know, jury nullification became a big issue at the time.
	And it divided the country even back then.
	I know you think this is the only time the country has been divided.
	That's not true.
	And this will not be the last time the country is divided.
	That I can promise you.
	So the day I remember I was on the Dr. Sonia Friedman program on CNN, which obviously no longer exists.
	And Tavis Smiley is on with me.
	And Tavis and I laugh about it to this day.
	And anyway, so at one point I make the comment, of course he's a suspect.
	And she's getting very agitated at my comments.
	Shock her.
	Things have really changed in my life.
	People getting mad at what I say.
	I said, of course he's a suspect.
	You know, there have been charges of domestic abuse.
	We saw the pictures of Nicole Brown and her face beaten up.
	And then so the Dr. Sonia Friedman says, that's irresponsible.
	Something to that effect that I was saying that he's a suspect.
	Seconds later.
	I mean, seconds later.
	CNN breaking news.
	The arrest of O.J. Simpson is imminent.
	And then leading to the Great Bronco chase.
	And if you're older, you remember exactly where you were during that big Bronco chase.
	Jason is the only one in this room that is shaking their head.
	Anyway, Jason, where were you?
	I was in Lestrada in Roswell, Georgia at the time.
	Well, the Bronco chase was going on when the Knicks were in the finals against Houston.
	So I'm watching it home, and then all of a sudden they go to the split screen and it goes from there.
	Yeah, and there were stories that people who were at the Knick game, while the game was going on, people started walking out of their seats because there were whisperings that were going on, and they were walking into the hallways and the concourse to find a TV to watch the TV show.
	Everybody was gathered around the bar watching the chase.
	It was a surreal thing because here's an NBA championship game.
	No, we were watching Larry King.
	Is the caller there?
	Hello.
	I don't know.
	Larry King was on CNN at the time.
	I remember distinctly.
	You're looking at me with disdain, like, why am I wasting precious airtime ever even mentioning this?
	How old were you?
	Years old at the time?
	Yeah, I mean, it's just irrelevant to me.
	And I honestly think it's irrelevant to most people.
	At the end of the day, he's a scumbag who murdered his wife and left his children motherless.
	Well, you know nothing about the case, but you're convinced that he committed the double murders.
	Now, I believe that.
	Well, why do you believe that?
	Because I read the timeline and I read all the evidence.
	And you know, you have to be asleep at the wheel to think that he's innocent.
	But putting all of that aside, okay, so he stole some fancy memorabilia.
	He served more time than he should have because of the fact that they didn't get him on the amount of time they wanted in the first run.
	And then to finish all this up, we still don't have a budget.
	We still don't have health care.
	Trump's still getting killed every day in the media by our disgusting mainstream.
	And, you know, we got Antifa in the streets committing all sorts of crimes.
	I mean, what effect does this have on our everyday lives?
	Can you feed your kids one more meal if this guy gets out or in?
	No, you can't.
	So who cares?
	Okay.
	And is there.
	Now, Ethan, you don't know anything about the case either, right?
	No, I was too young.
	And Sunshine, you know nothing.
	Were you even born at the time?
	I was in kindergarten.
	You were in kindergarten when this all happened.
	You know, this is really making me feel great about myself.
	I got to tell you.
	Really making me feel.
	Anyway, at the top of the next hour, Geraldo, his entire career was revitalized over this issue, and he's been covering it for Fox News all day.
	He'll join us at the top of the 4 o'clock hour.
	He's been out there all day, and he's been watching this up close.
	So we'll check in with him.
	We're going to stay on the issues of the day as well as we have Republicans.
	It's almost beginning to feel to me like they don't want this president to be successful.
	That's how it's beginning to feel to me.
	So we'll get to that.
	And all the other news of the day.
	And of course, the deep state is at it again.
	And I don't think this is ever going to stop.
	I really believe that.
	I think this goes on forever and ever and ever.
	Attack Trump, destroy Trump, and do everything you can do to not make this guy successful.
	So we'll get to that, the other news of the day.
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	Sean, let me move on.
	I am beginning more and more every day.
	I've laid out on this program how I think there are five forces aligned.
	Are they conspiring together?
	No.
	Are they working independently?
	Do they all want to achieve the same goal of hurting the president?
	Yes.
	The worst is the deep state.
	We learned recently 125 secretive, selective, deep state, in other words, illegal leaks that have all been timed and designed to hurt the president from ever accomplishing his agenda.
	We know the Democrats are nothing but obstructionists.
	They think of no solutions to any of our problems.
	They're not trying to fix health care.
	They're not trying to fix the economy.
	They don't want us energy independent.
	They don't want a wall.
	They don't talk about North Korea, the bad Iranian deal, the bad economy, people in poverty on food stamps and out of work ever.
	All it is for them is Trump, Russia, Russia, Russia.
	They never talk about anything positive that's going to improve the lives of Americans that are suffering.
	And then you got the media, and it is unlike anything I have ever seen in my life.
	They have declared war on a sitting president, and they have set out to destroy him.
	New York Times, Washington Post, you got two cable networks.
	No matter what's going on, I'm shocked they spent five minutes on OJ today.
	You know, just to take a little bit of a break, poor Allison Camerada, she spent a whole 93% of her show on Russia, Russia, Russia.
	Even she said she's sick of it.
	What does she have a three or four hour show in the morning?
	I don't even know.
	So, and then you've got Republicans.
	Now, Republicans can't keep the most fundamental promise they made to you, the American people.
	They can't get it done.
	President's saying, I've been here six months.
	You people have been promising this for seven long years.
	Get your job done.
	No vacations.
	We'll play some of that when we get back.
	And he's right, and he's impatient.
	It's not the way he rolls.
	President's doing a lot on his own.
	He's making great judicial appointments, doing a great job at the border.
	VA's been transformed and is being transformed.
	All those promises he can do on his own, ending Obama regulations.
	And then you've got the fifth part of this, you know, of this group of people, and that's the Never Trumpers.
	They are so desperate to say that people that voted for Trump, because they know better, because they write and read online, William F. Buckley's public.
	You don't even, FD's people didn't even know William F. Buckley.
	I did.
	And they want to be able to say you were wrong and we were right, and they want to be relevant.
	I'll explain when we come back.
	All right, 25 till the top of the hour.
	Toll-free our telephone numbers, 800-941-Sean.
	O.J. Simpson granted parole, one of our top stories today.
	Now, so I just went over how the deep state, how Democrats, how the obsessed, the obsessive, compulsive hate Trump media is trying to undo the election results.
	And then, of course, Republicans.
	I'm beginning to think more and more that Republicans, they're only too happy to see this president fail.
	That their number one desire is just to make sure he doesn't succeed, even if it means that they themselves will ultimately pay the price.
	How else do you explain not repealing and not replacing Obamacare, which was their number one priority?
	By the way, this just handed to me by somebody who doesn't know a single thing about the O.J. Simpson case because she was five years old.
	Linda's telling me, O.J. Simpson will take home $25,000 a month if he's released from prison.
	I guess what?
	As part of his pension, I'm guessing.
	All right, funds that aren't subject to seizure by creditors.
	You may make as much as that.
	That means the Goldman family and the Brown family don't get anything.
	That really is, well, $25,000, I guess that's the amount.
	Is it from football?
	Do we know?
	Anyway, with some outlets like, you know, he has roughly $250,000 in the bank.
	Others reported he's worth $3 million.
	Who knows what he's got in the bank?
	Who knows?
	But any other income, I'm assuming, and I'm not sure what he's going to be doing at 70 years old.
	He's not going back in the NFL.
	The NFL is not taking.
	No, no, no.
	That's not what I said.
	I was telling you, that's where the pension was coming from.
	Okay.
	Good grease.
	Well, you didn't even, you didn't watch one minute of that trial, did you?
	Which one?
	Back in the day?
	Back in the day.
	No.
	No.
	Ethan, you weren't even born yet.
	It was probably roller skating, doing something better with my time.
	By the way, how much trouble did your father-in-law get in for the comments that he made on the program the other day about your wife?
	Well, she just called and wanted to say that she's not a whack job.
	Oh, is that it?
	She's just correcting her father as if her father wouldn't know.
	Did her father pull you aside before you got married and say you're marrying a whack job?
	Oh, yeah, actually, the day of the wedding, he asked me if I was sure I wanted to do this.
	Your wife's father is telling you she's a whack job and you didn't listen.
	And her brother.
	And you didn't listen to them.
	Nope.
	Well, that means if they're saying it, you married a whack job.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	What do you mean?
	So the father's lying.
	The brother's lying.
	Everyone has their rights.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	You're calling the father and your father-in-law and your brother-in-law lying.
	This is just cruel.
	He's got nowhere to go.
	Everyone has their own perception on the same issue.
	So you're saying that they're wrong?
	I'm saying they're wrong.
	You're calling your father-in-law.
	You're saying the man who raised her for how many years was she in his house?
	I would say, I wouldn't say.
	20-some odd years.
	And how long have you known this girl?
	You're trying to get me in trouble.
	How many years?
	How many years did you know this girl before you married her?
	Well, our family is, we've known each other for a long time.
	I didn't ask you.
	How long have you really known her?
	However long did you date her?
	Like three years.
	Okay, so you've known her three years, and the father, and how old is she?
	Same age as me.
	How old?
	28?
	28.
	So the father that's known her 28 years knows less about his daughter than you do, and you've known her three years.
	I think he has a different perception of her.
	And the brother, how old's the brother?
	36.
	So the brother that's known her for 28 years knows less about her than you do, and you've known her for three.
	I'm getting myself in trouble.
	I mean, O.J. Simpson is really a horrible human being.
	I don't think you should be let out.
	So when her own father and brother call your wife a whack job, who are you going to defend?
	Ethan, do you have a white Bronco that you can get into and get on the road immediately?
	I'm leaving the studio now.
	You're leaving the studio?
	Hey, Jason, that doesn't bode well for marrying somebody if the father and brother say she's a whack job.
	No, Annie is not a whack job.
	Okay.
	Objection, you're badgering the witness.
	I'm not badgering the witness.
	And Sunshine, I see you're being all quiet in there.
	If your soon-to-be father-in-law and brother-in-law told you the man you are about to marry is a whack job, wouldn't you take that seriously?
	I would question their judgment.
	Listen, Sean, I hung out with Annie like twice, so I know her very well now.
	And I don't think she's a whack job.
	I think she's very sweet.
	Let me guess.
	One of the times was at the wedding, and she said five things to you.
	Exactly.
	I told her she looked really pretty.
	Oh, gee, that was a great conversation.
	I think you know her heart and her soul and her mind and everything.
	I found her to be quite the delightful human being, okay?
	Did you dance with her at the wedding?
	Yes, I did.
	You let Jason dance with your bride?
	Of course.
	He's a friend.
	Why wouldn't I?
	What?
	Do I not trust Annie and do I not trust Jason?
	What are your implications there?
	What are you trying to say?
	Well, I think it's pretty obvious to those of us that know Jason what I'm suggesting.
	At a wedding?
	Maybe not.
	At the bride?
	Well, what's your favorite hangout place?
	Yeah, Coyote.
	Man, exactly.
	Low, low.
	I do not have a low.
	No, because you know what I love the most about you is how you take care of your entire extended family.
	I love that about you.
	And I think you're don't have me dancing with any brothers.
	Well, I don't like the fact that I recently gave you a bonus and you blew the whole thing on some on a burial plot for yourself and you blew the whole the rest of it at a at Coyote Ugly.
	I thought that was dumb.
	You of all people are questioning me about using money on funeral arrangements?
	You?
	I don't have any funeral arrangements as of now.
	Are you going to be like the Indian chief going to the woods?
	No, no, I'll be headed to a resort somewhere where nobody can find me and I'll hire people to take care of me because I don't want my family cleaning me up every day, you know, the spit and whatever.
	I think that's a horrible thing for me to do to my family.
	And I want them to remember me as I was, the wise ass that I am, the talk show host that I am, the fighter that I was.
	Because I won't be fighting.
	Well, you know what?
	Maybe I will be.
	Liberal Joe, I still hate you, even though I'm about to die.
	I can see that going out.
	A lot of people, as they get near the end, say their best lines in their whole life.
	Let's be honest.
	Oh, there's a certain, you know, there's the most brutally honest people on this earth, and you got to love them for it.
	You got to love children.
	Mommy, look at that fat person.
	I mean, it is.
	Has Liam ever done that?
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, no, you don't have to say it because everyone knows every kid does it.
	He did it two days ago.
	We were in the park and he likes to blow bubbles on people's bellies.
	And he went up to my friend and he went, oh, big beddy.
	I like died a thousand deaths.
	See, but we take this bright light of children and then, now think about this for a second.
	All right, they're stating the obvious.
	And then, quote, out of politeness, we teach them, no, you can't tell a person that's heavy that they're heavy.
	You can't say the truth.
	Some people who say the truth are told they have to stop saying the truth and to play nice in the sandbox.
	You know, I mean, they tell you as you get older that you can't, you can't have this unfiltered, clear, truthful response anymore.
	You can't just tell people like it is.
	You need to be kid gloves.
	And other people would like to just give it straight.
	Well, actually, there's some nuance to what you're suggesting here, and that is that when you have people that work in collaborative situations, that there can't be the one that's so brutally honest that it destroys any possibility that anybody can collaborate together.
	And that, and that, hang on, and then dozens of eggs will start being thrown across the room, and people will be waterboarded in the room, and people may end up dead and bloody on the floor, but like an O.J. Simpson murder.
	So, what you're saying is that we should all be socialists and carry the dead weight.
	No, I'm not saying those who aren't bringing their own.
	The most honest people in the world are children.
	Children are brutally honest.
	And I actually think that there's a fine line between teaching them how to be polite and a fine line in putting the light that they don't see it anymore.
	In other words, they have a propensity to see truth.
	And then society takes that light of truth away from them and darkens it and says, you can't see that.
	Don't see what you see.
	And you have to deny the reality.
	Or if you do see it, like I see everything.
	I can't hide it.
	So if I see somebody that's overweight, I'm noticing you're overweight.
	I just, now it's not the most important feature.
	I care about people's minds, hearts, and souls.
	That matters far more to me than what a person looks like.
	But in the other case, you're not going to marry somebody that you're not physically attracted to.
	It's just a fact.
	And I'm also saying, in case you're interested, the other honest people, sometimes older people in life get brutally honest.
	And all of a sudden, you know, like grandpa begins to let it out that he hates grandma and has hated grandpa for years.
	Or grandma lets it out that she hates grandpa.
	I could tell you a funny story.
	I won't tell who it is because I don't know if these people are still alive or not, but there was somebody in my family.
	No, this is a true story.
	You must be very close to them.
	It was an elderly couple, and they were living with each other.
	They weren't married, but they were living with each other.
	Anyway, so they ended up at our house on a fairly regular basis for dinner.
	And the woman had no idea that she spoke her thoughts out loud.
	In other words, she thinks that she's just thinking, and yet she's verbalizing it loudly at the table and had a disdain and hatred for my mother and would sit there and brutalize her.
	We are dying laughing.
	It is the imagine you're old and whatever.
	I mean, you run into cognitive difficulties in older age.
	And imagine you're sitting there and the person doesn't know that they're talking out loud.
	They think these are their thoughts and they think that their thoughts are quiet.
	And she's out there and she's just saying it very matter of fact.
	What a peep.
	What a boop.
	Yeah, that's sort of like Linda.
	I mean, we don't need to get her to old age.
	It's because it's exactly.
	You ever see that?
	Oh, my God.
	And, you know, imagine we're young.
	We are dying laughing.
	What did your mother do?
	She's getting pissed.
	She's getting realistic.
	What's your father doing?
	He didn't care.
	I think he was enjoying mom getting beaten up on.
	This is a crazy Irish dysfunctional family.
	You gotta remember that.
	But I like the honesty, but we do tell people not to see truth in life.
	We do tell them.
	Now, there's a difference.
	You can see truth, but you don't have to verbalize it like a kid.
	But I don't think you should ever squash the ability of children from noticing the things that they notice.
	You know, you've heard of looking at life through the eyes of a child.
	What does that mean?
	It means that, you know, they're noticing the flowers.
	You know when the last time I've noticed a flower?
	I don't have time to notice the flowers.
	I don't have time to see the sunset.
	I don't have time to look at the trees whistling and blowing with the wind and so on and so forth.
	Because I work for a living and most people listening right now identify with me.
	We don't, you know, by the time you get up in the morning, this is what pisses me off about government too.
	This is what pisses me off about the Republicans.
	Because they're not doing their job to make our lives easier and getting off our back and giving us our money back.
	They're not helping those people suffering in poverty and on food stamps and out of the labor force.
	They'd rather just beat up Donald Trump, that whole group of five that I was telling you about.
	Most people get up in the morning and this is how your day goes.
	Oh, crap.
	Boom.
	Shut off the alarm.
	Oh, crap.
	You know, race to the bathroom.
	Oh, you know, you're in a foul mood the minute you get up.
	And then you're thinking, all right, I got to do this, this, this, this, and this today.
	Okay.
	You quickly shower.
	My shower's at three minutes.
	Yours are five hours.
	I'm kidding.
	How long do you shower for?
	Fast.
	I have a kid.
	Okay.
	How fast do you shower there, Ethan?
	As quick as I can because I need to catch the train.
	And Jason, you definitely have to spend time on that mohawk every day.
	I'd say it takes you an hour a day.
	Total, all told.
	Getting dressed, picking out your clothes is an art in itself.
	An hour?
	Look at, you got swag.
	Nobody else in this room has swag.
	Granted, but for an hour?
	How long does it take a day?
	Don't lie.
	45 minutes.
	It takes me about, what, 10, 15 minutes at most to shower.
	And how long do you pick out your clothes?
	I'll actually think about it the night before, but it's not taking an hour.
	So you start thinking.
	Maybe 10 minutes.
	Okay.
	You know how long it takes me to pick up my clothes?
	I walk in and I pull off the neck shirt and the rack.
	And I wear the same pair of jeans two days and then I switch it on the third day.
	That's what I do.
	Sunshine.
	And then, so then we shovel coffee down our throat.
	We take care of our kids.
	We feed them.
	They aggravate you before you ever get out the door.
	You put in your 12, 14, 16 hours a day.
	Then the government steals half the money you make.
	Then you come home.
	And with a little bit of luck, you get the kids to bed to do their homework, get them through their activities.
	You know, you sit down, you shovel down a vodka just to you can hopefully pass out at the end of the night, and you go to bed and get up and do it all over again.
	So, when I say nobody has time to smell the roses, in part because half the money we make is ripped off by the government.
	It's just the reality of life.
	And the realities of life is life is hard.
	Life is difficult.
	Life is not simple and easy, as some people say.
	Anyway, 800-941 Shauna's on number.
	I have no idea where all that came from.
	None whatsoever.
	It just came flying out.
	Well, you're in your old age now, so you say what comes to your head, you know, without filter.
	You know, you know, you are.
	You sure didn't have that thinking out loud thing for the last 15 minutes?
	Okay.
	You're all enjoying this?
	Make it funny.
	You are in trouble today.
	You are in, you know, why you're in big trouble.
	No way, man.
	Oh, yeah, way.
	You love my honesty.
	I am angry at you now.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, yes, ma'am.
	I got your back, Linda.
	Yeah, okay.
	You shush.
	I don't want to hear from you.
	Why are you getting involved in our fight?
	All right, we're going to have the vice president on today, but his schedule got, well, batched up a little bit, so we apologize.
	He said he'll be back as soon as he possibly can.
	We do have Geraldo Riveris out in Vegas right now.
	He's been following the O.J. Simpson of you just joining us.
	Geraldo made his career on this, and he is going to give us his take on OJ getting paroled today.
	And so we'll have some coverage of it tonight on Hannity.
	Newt Gingrich, we'll get back to some of the serious issues, not the least of which is the open sabotage of so many disparate groups against the president wanting him to fail.
	But in the process, it's the American people that get screwed over royally.
	So we'll get to that.
	And also, we have another instance of liberal hate against a Donald Trump supporter.
	This time it involves, oh, let's see, a plastic surgeon in stitches.
	It's so awful.
	Straight ahead.
	I've always thought I've been pretty good with people, and I've basically spent a conflict-free life.
	You know, I'm not a guy that ever got into fights on the street and with the public and everybody, but I've done my time.
	You know, I've done it as well and as respectfully as I think anybody can.
	I think if you talk to the wardens, then they'll tell you I've been there.
	I gave them my word.
	I believe in the jury system.
	I've honored their verdict.
	I've not complained for nine years.
	All I've done is try to be helpful and encourage the guys around there.
	Hey, man, do your time.
	Fight in court.
	And don't do anything that's going to extend your time.
	And that's the life I've tried to live because I want to give back to my kids.
	All right.
	And have these programs prepared you to return to the community setting?
	At least so.
	You know, I look, I've missed a lot of time, like 36 birthdays with my children.
	And, you know, I spent the 12 years leading up to this incident in Vegas raising two kids in L.A.
	I mean, I'm sorry, in Miami.
	And, you know, with all the media stuff, you know, we got these guys like Jeffrey Felix and make it up stories and stuff.
	That was happening out on the street also.
	But I was able to keep them to keep their eye on the ball.
	They got great grades and went to the college of their choice.
	And I ended up missing their graduation because of it.
	Trust me.
	I wish it would have never happened.
	But as I said, the courses that I take, and I hope it helps me more if I run into those conflicts with my kids.
	I'm not a guy that has conflicts on the street.
	I don't expect to have any when I leave here.
	But I feel that I'm much better prepared, but more so from, I think, my commitment to being a better Christian, because I thought I was a good guy.
	I had some problems with fidelity in my life, but I've always been a guy that pretty much got along with everybody.
	Mr. Simpson, you organized this crime in which two victims were robbed at gunpoint.
	It was a serious crime, and there was no excuse for it.
	You deserve to be sent to prison.
	You have been in prison now almost nine years, the minimum amount imposed by the court.
	You have complied with the rules of the prison.
	You have programmed in an acceptable manner.
	You have no prior conviction of criminal activity.
	You are a low risk to reoffend on our guidelines.
	You have community support and stable release plans.
	We've heard from you and from your victim.
	The question here, as with all parole hearings, is whether or not you have served enough time in prison on this case.
	Considering all these factors, my vote is to grant your parole effective when eligible.
	We believe that we're a fair board.
	We believe that we're a consistent board.
	I will let you know that that consistency also goes to parole.
	And we do not look kindly upon parole violations.
	And if I cast my vote to grant and it concludes the hearing, our expectation would be that you not violate even the simplest condition of parole.
	Having said that, I am prepared to cast the vote.
	I am prepared to ask the commissioners to set conditions.
	If that happens, we will produce an order sometime in the next 15 to 20 minutes that will be faxed to you or presented to you at the institution, and it will become a public record.
	So, based on all of that, Mr. Simpson, I do vote to grant parole when eligible.
	And that will conclude this hearing.
	Thank you.
	All right, there you have it.
	O.J. Simpson granted parole earlier today after spending nine years in prison in what was a robbery built on the issue of memorabilia.
	And of course, he was one of the organizers orchestrating this.
	He did have one of the victims testify on his behalf that it should have only been a two or three years sentence, could have been as long as 30 years.
	Joining us now, this man covered the O.J. Simpson murder trials more than anybody else in the country, knows every intimate detail better than anybody.
	And it's my friend and colleague Gervaldo Rivera.
	He's been out there all day in Vegas.
	How are you, sir?
	Hello, my brother.
	I'm sorry that you're not here with me.
	Once again, we watch as O.J. Simpson captivates public attention as the parole board burritos handed down.
	All right, let's go through from your position.
	You thought this was going to happen.
	I've been talking to you and watching this, and it seemed like it was inevitable.
	It was inevitable because he did follow the rules.
	Give the devil his due.
	He may have committed brutal double homicide in Brentwood back in 1994.
	And he did commit this rinky-dink robbery here in Nevada nine years ago.
	But he was a model prisoner.
	He's 70 years old now.
	He didn't break any of the rules.
	He was helpful behind bars.
	So the fact that he is a wife murdering skunk, you know, has very little to do with whether or not he should have been granted parole in this Nevada case.
	I think they did the right thing.
	I thought it would be unanimous.
	You know, and now you'll have OJ to kick around again starting around October 1st.
	All right, let's go from your perspective.
	I mean, Geraldo, every night your ratings were, I mean, to say off the charts incredibly spectacular.
	I mean, I think you can even make the argument that, like, you and Larry King were the two people, and this was about the time that cable news really began to explode.
	If I remember, I'd think you were number one in all the cable at the time.
	We beat the broadcast network starting when the verdict was handed out, Sean.
	But the fact of the matter is, when you consider that these, the homicides were 23 years ago, because of a lot of reasons that, you know, including how the dream team exacerbated racial tension in the country, and they rode that racetrain.
	Can I stand up for my friend Robert Shapiro?
	Robert Shapiro did not do that.
	Well, he may not have, but remember, the lead counsel was Johnny Cochran, who that next year was voted the defense attorney of the year because he was so brilliant in the exploitation.
	But put Shapiro aside.
	The fact of the matter is that O.J. Simpson beat a brutal double homicide rap.
	There's no doubt in anyone's mind, and indeed the civil court jury found three years after the fact that he was liable for the wrongful deaths of his wife, ex-wife, the mother of his children, who were inside at the time he almost cut her head off, and Ron Goldman, her friend, who just was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
	Simpson is someone who, for various reasons, there's a magnetic attraction to.
	Because, you know, he was a great football player.
	He was an affable pitch man for Hertz RenaCar.
	He was a minor movie star.
	I just saw him in Towering Inferno just a couple of days ago in all those naked gun movies or police squad, whatever it was.
	I mean, everybody knew O.J. and to see this exalted figure, this friendly person, this transracial, charismatic, smiling person who was good friends then with a New York man about town named Donald Trump.
	You know, everybody liked or loved O.J.
	And then to see him.
	Did you know him before all of this?
	I did not.
	I did not.
	I mean, it's so fascinating.
	I obviously knew the president for years before that and during that period.
	But I interviewed the president about O.J. in 1995 during the trial.
	He was married to Marla at that time.
	And the president said, I have to tell you, if I was on that jury, I would have a very difficult time with my verdict, the president told me.
	Obviously, he was a private citizen at the time.
	Because the facts as they are being told to us and the circumstances of this crime, I think I'm quoting him pretty exactly, it's just not the O.J. I knew.
	You know, and Marla then chimed in and said, you know, you never know people until you spend time with them.
	You never know that they have a dark side.
	But O.J. shocked everybody with these crimes.
	And when you see the fascination, you talk about my rating.
	What about last year, in the third decade after it happened, people watching the OJ series in record numbers, Game of Thrones kind of ratings it got last year.
	The O.J. Simpson documentary series that started with the racial violence in L.A. that followed the Rodney King verdict, the acquittal of the White Chops in that case, and then traced it all the way to O.J. Simpson and the Las Vegas armed robbery, the burlesque amateur hour robbery.
	People are fascinated.
	They're going to continue to watch this man.
	The question will be, Sean, whether or not he can now finally put his life together.
	Well, will he?
	Because he's such a narcissist, because he has such a combustible personality.
	Will he once again explode Maybe another domestic violence case, maybe another road rage case.
	You know, it's going to be fascinating to see.
	I give him 50-50.
	Let me ask you, you know, for me, the evidence was overwhelming and incontrovertible.
	I mean, how did he get blood on his socks?
	How did he get blood in the Bronco?
	I mean, I remember that Mark Fuhrman once told me that there was a bloody fingerprint on the gate that they never even brought into evidence for some reason.
	I don't know if you remember that particular point.
	And then how do you explain the overwhelming, incontrovertible evidence and the deep racial divide that we saw in the country at the time?
	Well, I think that they saw, remember, that case wasn't.
	They could have tried that case on the west side of L.A.
	The west side of L.A., like the Upper East side of New York.
	It's very upscale.
	It's largely white, a lot of professionals, a lot of strivers.
	You know, they could have tried on the west side of town where it happened.
	Instead, they chose to try it downtown in the center city in the wake of the Rodney King verdict where nobody in the community believed anybody on the LAPD.
	You know, so once they had our friend Mark Furman, once they had Mark Furman on the witness stand, and Effley Bailey asked him famously, have you now or ever used the N-word?
	And he said, no, I haven't.
	And then they came up with the tapes and they proved that Fuhrman was lied under oath, that he had, you know, those jurors, nine of them black or African-American, nine or ten, one Latino, and then one Caucasian, one white woman, you know, they heard the evidence coming from cops they did not trust.
	They hated the cops.
	They hated the LAPD.
	The feelings about the LAPD were lower historically than they have ever been.
	And it was in that context that he goes to trial.
	And with all due respect to Robert Shapiro, Johnny Cochran took the lead.
	Johnny Cochrane, you know, played that race card with such.
	Do you remember what Shapiro said at the end of the trial that he felt his own defense team dealt the race card from the bottom of the deck?
	That was a huge controversy.
	It was, but by then Simpson had been acquitted.
	And you can't retry him.
	It's double jeopardy.
	So the best they could do is bring that civil court lawsuit for wrongful death and get the $33 million judgment for the Goldmans and the Browns.
	But whether or not they ever collect, you know, the thing about O.J. now with these TV series, he's being pursued now by ravenous wolves from Hollywood who want to, you know, do interviews with him, want to go pay-per-view with him, want rights to his life story, want to follow him around because of that ratings magic that he has.
	You know, hopefully the Goldmans, particularly, because they are.
	All right, stay right there.
	We got a Geraldo Rivera, who followed more closely than anybody else in the country the O.J. Simpson case.
	We'll have a few more minutes with Geraldo, and then we'll check in with Newt Gingrich and whether or not the Republicans have any intention of keeping their promises to you, the American people.
	And was he serious when he said Nancy Pelosi could be speaker if they don't step up?
	All right, as we continue, Geraldo Rivera's with us, Fox News Channel.
	My friend and colleague, he's out in Vegas.
	More than anybody else in the country knows exactly every detail of the O.J. Simpson trial.
	What did I forget?
	I remember the Bloody Sox, the Bloody Bronco.
	And did you see the Netflix?
	What are you in a car?
	You must be in a car.
	Everybody's running around.
	No, no, no, you're playing the slots.
	I know what you're doing.
	You're playing the slots.
	I'm not a gambler.
	And, you know, Reno, what they call it the biggest little city in America.
	Yeah, it's nice, though.
	I think, for the brothel out in Sparks.
	Oh, geez.
	They're 10 miles from Lake Tahoe.
	You've been rehabbing that old image.
	And you come on the program and you blow it in 30 seconds.
	I love you to death.
	What are you doing?
	I go to bed early these days, as you know.
	No, I know.
	All right, so I guess all of these things go on with O.J. Simpson.
	This changes your life.
	I mean, it took your career to brand new heights.
	You see him today.
	Did you find him sincere at all?
	Or do you think he's full of it?
	You know, I think that he's such a narcissist and such a sociopath that, you know, they're excellent liars.
	They have a great charm.
	I took that as charisma in the last segment.
	You know, that's the reason he was such a popular pitch man.
	That's why everyone's jaws were just gaping when we heard that he had committed this horrible crime.
	He seemed incapable of that kind of rage, that dark side.
	You know, but why people are fascinated with him?
	This is an American horror story.
	And I watched that, you know, the dramatization, which was excellent with Sarah Paulson and Kuba Gooding Goos Jr. playing OJ, Sarah playing Marsha Clark and the other.
	And knowing the people in real life, knowing Chris Darden, the prosecutor, and Marsha Clark and all of the dream team and being friends with Alan Dershwitz and some of the others, F. Lee Daney, some of the people who were engaged and involved in this case.
	This saga, it was like I was reliving it.
	My palms were sweaty again.
	It was so realistic.
	And it made the story, the old story from 1994, new again.
	So that's what I think now it's 20-year-olds are into it.
	Jay-Z on his latest album, 444, has a whole song that he, it's the OJ song, the song of OJ.
	And the title is, I'm Not Black, I'm OJ, because OJ famously said that.
	This is a guy that was never involved in the civil rights movement.
	This is a guy that only dated white women, a celebrity millionaire.
	But he said, someone said, how does it feel being a role model for African Americans?
	He said, I'm not black, I'm OJ.
	So Jay-Z.
	We got a role.
	We'll have more with Geraldo tonight.
	Sean's got more behind-the-scenes information.
	More contacts than anybody.
	More friends behind the curtain.
	Sean Hannity is on.
	I've always thought I've been pretty good with people, and I've basically spent a conflict-free life.
	You know, I'm not a guy that ever got into fights on the street with the public and everybody, but I've done my time.
	You know, I've done it as well and as respectfully as I think anybody can.
	I think if you talk to the wardens then, they'll tell you I've been there.
	I gave them my word.
	I believe in the jury system.
	I've honored their verdict.
	I've not complained for nine years.
	All I've done is try to be helpful and encourage the guys around there.
	Hey, man, do your time.
	Fight in court.
	And don't do anything that's going to extend your time.
	And that's the life I've tried to live because I want to give back to my kids.
	All right.
	And have these programs prepared you to return to the community setting?
	At least so.
	You know, I look, I've missed a lot of time, like 36 birthdays with my children.
	And, you know, I spent the 12 years leading up to this incident in Vegas raising two kids in L.A.
	I mean, I'm sorry, in Miami.
	And, you know, with all the media stuff, you know, we got these guys like Jeffrey Felix make it up stories and stuff.
	That was happening out on the street also.
	But I was able to keep them to keep their eye on the ball.
	Got great grades and went to the college of their choice.
	And I ended up missing their graduation because of it.
	Trust me.
	I wish it would have never happened, but as I said, the courses that I take, and I hope it helps me more if I run into those conflicts with my kids.
	I'm not a guy that has conflicts on the street.
	I don't expect to have any when I leave here.
	But I feel that I'm much better prepared, but more so from, I think, my commitment to being a better Christian, because I thought I was a good guy.
	I had some problems with fidelity in my life, but I've always been a guy that pretty much got along with everybody.
	All right, that was O.J. Simpson earlier today at his parole hearing.
	Joining us now with Reaction All is Matt Whitaker, Executive Director of the Foundation for Accountability and Civic Trust or Fact, and Carrie Severino, who is the chief counsel and policy director of the Judicial Crisis Network.
	And welcome both of you to the program.
	And, you know, I know for people, as I said earlier in the program today, that didn't live through all of this.
	They're all scratching their head.
	How is this the big deal that it is?
	I do believe a part of me, and I've believed this from the beginning, that a part of his sentencing in this case in Vegas, this robbery got memorabilia robbery gone wrong, has really been about punishing him for what he was acquitted of.
	Do you believe that, Matt?
	I do.
	I do.
	I mean, first of all, you know, this is a man that's not very contrite.
	I mean, you know, to suggest that he led a conflict-free life as a notorious domestic abuser is ridiculous.
	But, you know, if you think about sort of where he found himself in, you know, in the murder, he lost the civil lawsuit, so he's proved more likely than not he killed them.
	But he won the acquittal in the criminal suit, so they couldn't prove his case beyond a reasonable doubt.
	And we were all there and watched that trial and know how it was mishandled and how the defense was able to completely screw up the prosecution in their attempts to convict him.
	But, you know, I do believe, I mean, you know, he served, you know, he served over nine years now, and I think that is much longer than any other similarly situated person in a case like this would serve without that kind of notorious background.
	What do you think, Carrie?
	Is it your belief that this was somehow associated, this whole robbery, memorabilia issue was really about something else?
	Oh, well, I think he clearly was convicted of that crime.
	He did the crime, but I think you're right.
	The sentencing seemed out of proportion with what you would expect for that kind of a robbery and the kidnapping, which apparently even his victim is now saying, well, he never held a gun on me.
	You know, the facts are getting a little mushy now nine years later.
	But I do think it was something that was such a salient moment in American life that this is, it's coming back.
	And maybe this is what it takes, you know, to get the mainstream media off of focusing on some of these fake stories they're coming up with, whether it's the Russia stuff or, you know, all these other things.
	So now there's actually something happening that people are going to pay attention to.
	I think, you know, it seems like he has been a great model prisoner, according to all the testimony.
	So we'll see.
	Maybe he'll get a chance to try again.
	I just hope he can do better with his kids than he did, as you pointed out, with his wife.
	Didn't have a great track record there.
	What about the people that were involved in the issue saying this should have been a two to three year crime?
	Well, I can't speak to the normal time, but it does seem like everyone's got in the back of their mind, we think something went wrong in this criminal trial.
	And that's got to be part of the calculus, I think.
	What do you think, Matt?
	Well, I think it was really hard to watch his statement today where he kind of tried to explain away or relitigate the basic facts of the crime and sort of diminish his role.
	As a former prosecutor, this would always frustrate me, especially when people sought pardons from the president back when I was a U.S. attorney and it was relevant to my district.
	I'd see their pardon applications.
	And the idea of being sorry, being contrite, understanding sort of your full role in the matter and what you did and taking responsibility for it was a very important piece.
	Because as a U.S. attorney, I would get a chance to weigh in on any pardon or commutation applications.
	And today was just, I was embarrassed for him.
	It was pathetic.
	He is somebody that sort of in my entire life, I mean, I was born in 1969, so he was relevant in my life as a football player, as a celebrity, as an accused murderer.
	I mean, I became a lawyer at the same time that he went to trial in 1995.
	So, I mean, this is, you know, this is a.
	Should anybody worry now that he's been granted parole?
	Do either one of you worry that he's been granted this parole?
	You know, I got to say, I hope he's not even next door to me.
	I don't know if I want him as an ex-door neighbor.
	It just seems like he's got a little bit of a checkered path.
	But he's, you know, I guess, again, a lot of his, part of the point he was trying to make in his testimony today is, I don't have problems with people on the street, but he seemed to almost be admitting I do seem to have some problems with the people closest to me.
	So he had the domestic abuse issues and things like that.
	This is why I'm saying I'm hoping that he can get those things, those issues together with the people closest to him.
	Even this robbery suspect thing seems like that was a friend relationship, too.
	So I think that the people who were closest to him are the ones who might have to be more thinking about, okay, is this someone I want to continue to have in my life once he's out of prison?
	I mean, we just learned that he did get parole today, and so anybody that's a father of a daughter like I am should be fearful of them crossing paths with him either in Nevada or Florida or wherever he eventually finds himself living.
	Yeah, I mean, look, I mean, what did you think of the emotion that he showed when he was granted a parole today?
	Well, I mean, you know, obviously he's joyful and he's excited and he's and he's, you know, he's overcome by the idea that he's going to get out and breathe fresh air again.
	I mean, it is not easy to serve, even in a medium security correctional center.
	And I'm sure it was, you know, it was very difficult, especially as a celebrity where everybody that he's serving with recognized him and wanted to hear his story.
	But it's, it's, you know, I mean, I still, his statement was just very lacking for me.
	Yeah.
	And Carrie, do you feel the same way?
	Well, you know, sort of as a Christian, I got to hope that he has used this time to best use.
	Well, let me, before I ask that question, do both of you think he was guilty of the murders?
	Well, Sean, I'll go first.
	I mean, I watched that trial with great interest, and I do believe that he did it.
	I think the civil case was much better put on and proven as to kind of who he is and when what he did.
	But yeah, so I guess, yes, fundamentally, yes, I do think he killed those two people.
	And what do you think, Carrie?
	I think so.
	I mean, I obviously wasn't there on the jury, so I wasn't getting to see it in the same detail that they did, but it just seems like the evidence was there.
	But I agree, it was not well run.
	And we have a system that inherently really gives a lot of help to the defendants to make sure that they're not getting wrongfully convicted.
	But that also means that there probably are some cases where people who did things are not convicted.
	And so I think that probably was what happened in this case here.
	Unbelievable.
	I mean, I think the whole thing is fascinating.
	And, you know, the fact that I'm getting so many people, even my own kids are like, yeah, I heard about it, but they don't really understand it the way we all do.
	And, you know, let me put a paraldo Rivera.
	This was him when he was reacting right after the granting of parole.
	Life.
	I have my doubts personally, but it's not up to me.
	The law was followed.
	I have absolutely no bitter feelings toward the commissioners.
	They did what they had to do under the law, as I understand the law, and their order that comes down in 10, 15 minutes, ship, I think will make that very clear.
	All right.
	So, you know, that was their reaction as it came down.
	And I don't think you're going to see the collective.
	I think it's going to be more of a collective yawn in the country, except for those people like me that really believe he did it.
	I mean, it's a generational divide, right?
	I mean, there's a lot of people who don't remember it.
	Yeah, no, a lot of all right.
	Thank you guys for being with us.
	We appreciate it.
	Thank you so much.
	You have been going apoplectic in there all day having a fit about the whole topic.
	And you're like, you watched the trial.
	I mean, you're not.
	No, I didn't.
	So that's why you don't care?
	It's not that it's just the dumbest thing in the world.
	I'm so dumb about it.
	There's so many criminals that do so many dumb things and hurt so many people.
	But this OJ trial to take up every single, every single news outlet all day long to watch him, to analyze his expressions, his movements, how's he feeling.
	Who cares how he's feeling?
	I don't care.
	You're like 30 years old, right?
	Yeah, and what's the point?
	Okay, so how old were you when this happened?
	Five?
	When was it?
	94?
	94.
	Yeah, around there.
	Okay.
	So, okay, I was in a radio studio the day that the money was.
	We're in the middle of a budget crisis.
	The only positive that came out of this nonsense today was that CNN for a whole day didn't talk about Russia-Trump collusion.
	That is the only positive thing that came out of today.
	Other than that, who gives a crap?
	This guy is a criminal who murdered his wife, took away his children's mother, and now there's people clapping because he got off because he already served too much time.
	What the heck did he do anyway?
	He stole a bunch of memorabilia.
	I mean, that's what he is, a murderer and a thief.
	Fantastic.
	And they got the guns involved and everything else.
	But yeah, but my point is, is like, who cares?
	Like, are you going to be able to take a look at the college?
	Jason, do you remember the case?
	You do, because you're a little older than the rest of the children in there.
	Well, I didn't keep super close tabs of it.
	Like, I remember the Bronco Chase, obviously, that was the weirdest of days.
	They didn't have the bloody socks.
	They didn't have blood in the Bronco.
	If he didn't have blood all over the place, I might be inclined to say, okay, maybe they didn't have enough evidence.
	We'll have some of this on TV tonight, but we're also sticking with our top issues and stories of the day.
	Let not your heart be troubled.
	I've always thought I've been pretty good with people, and I've basically spent a conflict-free life.
	You know, I'm not a guy that ever got into fights on the street and with the public and everybody, but I've done my time.
	You know, I've done it as well and as respectfully as I think anybody can.
	I think if you talk to the wardens, then they'll tell you I've been there.
	I gave them my word.
	I believe in the jury system.
	I've honored their verdict.
	I've not complained for nine years.
	All I've done is try to be helpful and encourage the guys around there.
	Hey, man, do your time, fight in court, and don't do anything that's going to extend your time.
	And that's the life I've tried to live because I want to get back to my kids.
	Look, I've missed a lot of time, like 36 birthdays with my children.
	And, you know, I spent the 12 years leading up.
	We believe that we're a fair board.
	We believe that we're a consistent board.
	I will let you know that that consistency also goes to parole.
	And we do not look kindly upon parole violations.
	And if I cast my vote to Grant and it concludes the hearing, our expectation would be that you not violate even the simplest condition of parole.
	Having said that, I am prepared to cast a vote.
	I am prepared to ask the commissioners to set conditions.
	If that happens, we will produce an order sometime in the next 15 to 20 minutes that will be faxed to you or presented to you at the institution, and it will become a public record.
	So based on all of that, Mr. Simpson, I do vote to grant parole when eligible.
	And that will conclude this hearing.
	Thank you.
	All right, MJ, you're next on the Sean Hannity Show.
	How are you?
	Hi, Sean.
	How are you doing today?
	I'm good.
	What's going on?
	OJ, whatever.
	I mean, my goodness.
	I mean, but he is an actor, right?
	So.
	Well, I don't know if it's acting that got him out.
	I mean, good behavior inside a prison was the strongest case that was made and having people that were victims.
	Behavior when you're probably enjoying yourself like, you know, good fellas up in a nice, you know, area of the jail.
	I'm sure he wasn't in a career.
	Well, apparently, well, he wasn't in one of the toughest prisons.
	That's true.
	But listen, I can't wait till he comes back to Miami.
	Woo-hoo.
	Yay.
	Maybe we'll give him a big welcome wagon.
	I'm sure he'll start looking for the real killers on the golf course any day now.
	Absolutely.
	You could see by Kardashian's face, though, after the trial that he knew he did wrong.
	I don't know.
	Look, for me, it was controversial.
	I was thinking you were talking about earlier.
	Yeah, I mean, just a very interesting, I forget what it's called on Netflix, but it's definitely worthwhile taking a look.
	Anyway, we'll have the latest on this tonight, the reaction of people tonight, much more.
	10 Eastern Hannity on the Fox News channel.
	Thank you, MJ.
	We'll take a break.
	We'll come back.
	We'll continue straight ahead.
	We're in this room today to deliver on our promise to the American people to repeal Obamacare and to ensure that they have the health care that they need.
	We have no choice.
	We have to repeal and replace Obamacare.
	We can repeal it, but the best is repeal and replace, and let's get going.
	I intend to keep my promise, and I know you will too.
	Since 2013, Obamacare premiums have skyrocketed.
	In Alaska, they went up over 200% recently.
	In Arizona, they've been up 118%.
	And those states are good compared to some of the numbers that are coming out.
	Despite the promise that premiums would decrease by $2,500 on average, they've actually increased by almost $3,000 and even much more than that in some cases.
	It's crushing the middle class and the families of the middle class.
	It's frankly crushing our country.
	Obamacare was a big lie.
	You can keep your doctor, lie.
	You can keep your plan, lie.
	It was a lie directly from the president.
	You can keep your doctor.
	You can keep your plan.
	28 times, he said it.
	28 times.
	And it was a lie, and he knew it was.
	And now it's hurting this country irreparably.
	I've been here just six months.
	I'm ready to act.
	I have pen in hand.
	Believe me.
	I'm sitting in that office.
	I have pen in hand.
	You never had that before.
	You know, for seven years, you had an easy route.
	We'll repeal, we'll replace, and he's never going to sign it.
	But I'm signing it.
	So it's a little bit different.
	But I'm ready to act.
	For seven years, you promised the American people that you would repeal Obamacare.
	People are hurting.
	Inaction is not an option.
	And frankly, I don't think we should leave town unless we have a health insurance plan, unless we can give our people great health care.
	Keep your promise to the American people.
	Don't leave town.
	Get your work done.
	And yes, this is what everybody promised.
	Joining us now, former Speaker of the House, Newt Kingrich, also the author of the best-selling book, Understanding Trump.
	He actually said on the TV show the other night that the House would be in real danger if they don't start getting these things done.
	Mr. Speaker, welcome back.
	It's good to be back with you.
	And I am very concerned.
	I think they've got to pass a tax cut by Thanksgiving and get it signed into law by Thanksgiving.
	If they can, in the next 10 days, find a way to get to complete repeal, I think they need to break it into about four bills and move each bill in parallel.
	And it's the whole story, you may not be able to swallow the elephant, but you can eat it one piece at a time.
	Because it's so clear that there are pieces of it that are so broken that we should be able to get them passed.
	And I have no idea what's going to happen in terms of the Senate in the next few days because it comes down to two or three people.
	Plus, of course, with John McCain, I think probably getting treatment, I don't think he'll be there for at least a week or two.
	Well, I guess I don't even know why this is so difficult.
	I mean, here it is, the 20th of July, and they still haven't gotten their job done.
	And I am beginning to think that there just isn't the will and the urgency and the desire, because if the American people don't see a few hundred miles of the wall built and these guys don't end up repealing replacement Obamacare and they modify their tax cuts and they don't do tax reform, and you know, then what are they going to?
	How do they explain that away in 2018?
	Well, I do think they're going to get a substantial amount of the wall done and I do think that General Kelly, now Secretary Kelly, is having an extraordinary impact on illegal immigration.
	I think that's a clear success story.
	I think that they have had a remarkable run.
	People have not noticed it because the lead meeting doesn't want to cover it, but Trump has actually sent up more conservative judges in the first six months than Reagan Bush and Clinton combined, by about four to one.
	It's just amazing, the job, the system, in helping identify solid conservatives.
	They've they've repealed 16 regulations for every new regulation huge step towards beginning to shrink the regulatory deep state.
	But I think you're right, they've still got these two big things hanging over them.
	I think the tax bill is easier to do and I think, if it's a big enough tax cut, if we could get to 15% corporate rate and get to a very substantial middle-class tax cut and make sure that the corporate rate also applied to small business so that they had a real incentive to hire people.
	That would lead to an economic boom.
	And then they've got to go back and keep trying to figure out how to solve the challenge that we've got with health care.
	But I would point out though, that 46 or 47 of the members are eager and ready to do something, and the challenge they've got is finding the last two or three.
	I think they're working it.
	I know they had a long meeting last night, chaired by Senator Barroso of Wyoming, and I think I was just over at the Senate this morning talking to a variety of people, and I'm modestly hopeful that they'll get something done.
	I am very hopeful that if they can't get the big bill done, they can start taking pieces of it at a time and getting and get them to sign.
	Why can't they do a simple repeal now, transition and and work on it and spend the time and And have the committee work and work on cooperatives and work on health savings accounts?
	And in the interim, you've got rid of the law, and that ends a lot of the legislative and procedural problems that they've been facing in the Senate.
	Well, I think that's one of the options they've got to look at.
	What you have, of course, is people who stop and look at the details.
	This was the great shock in the House back in January and February, you know, and President Trump sort of alluded to it in that tape that you just now did when he said, you know, you guys kept voting for this because nobody thought it was going to become law, so nobody paid attention.
	And he said, now it's going to become law because I'm eager to sign it.
	And now all of a sudden it's a lot harder, which, of course, it is.
	So, I mean, part of the question is exactly how you repeal it.
	Because does that mean that you repeal all the Medicaid, you know, and I think you could repeal it as of, say, December 2020 and have time to solve each of these pieces.
	But that would, in one way, be a kind of a symbolic step in the right direction.
	I think they could also repeal pieces of it that they could identify that they could get 50 votes for.
	So I would look at fixing the individual market and rebuilding that and lowering premiums for working Americans is one problem.
	Fixing Medicaid is a totally different problem.
	Look, it just sounds disappointing to me, and it sounds like they never.
	Well, it is disappointing.
	Look, I'm with you.
	I told you a couple of nights ago, you know, I had finally concluded that you were more right than I was, and you had every right to be kind of frustrated.
	It is disappointing.
	I mean, I would have thought after all these years of talking about it, we'd be closer to a consensus than we are right now.
	But I'm also trying to say, as somebody who used to run a legislative body, sometimes you have to do what you can do, not what you'd like to do.
	And I think what we're going to find out and what Mitch McConnell's trying to do in the next 10 days is push the system to the wall and see if he can get those last two or three votes.
	I mean, I think there's a reason he wants to take this vote.
	He wants to force every single member to look in the mirror and say, after all those speeches about getting rid of Obamacare, what am I going to do?
	And the only senator who has a legitimate defense is Senator Collins, because she did vote against repealing Obamacare.
	So she can say, look, I'm being true to what I did.
	I'm being true to how I campaigned.
	Everybody else has a problem if Senator McConnell pushes this to the wall because all of them campaigned on repealing it.
	It's just, look, let me ask you this question.
	I mean, we have, for example, next week, you're going to have Don Jr. and Jared.
	They're going before House committees, and you and I have discussed the Ukrainian issue, the email issue, the server issue.
	We found these FBI documents.
	Hillary Clinton not only smashed and broken a little pieces, BlackBerries and iPhones, but when the FBI pushed and she handed over the few remaining devices she had, she sends them over to the FBI without SIM cards and the Ukrainian collusion story.
	And yet it's going to be Don Jr.
	It's going to be Jared and Paul Manafort being called over Russia, Russia, Russia.
	It has become such a 24-7 obsession in this country, the media in this country, that it's...
	How many people...
	I don't understand why the Republican leadership doesn't insist that the House and Senate investigating committees look at all the different evidence, not just the Republicans.
	I mean, I think it's, you know, as a person who's been an active Republican for a very long time, I find it very disheartening that we have people who allow the media to define for us what we should be investigating.
	And I couldn't agree with you more.
	I think there's so many things that are hard to defend and hard to explain that happened with Hillary Clinton and with Bill Clinton and with the Clinton Foundation.
	And just to get the evidence on the record would be the right thing to do.
	But they don't even do something that simple.
	And I got to tell you, so there was a Bloomberg story today.
	Now, the whole, remember James Comey leaks documents, government papers, and that was leaked to the New York Times, and he did it for the direct purpose of getting a special counsel hired.
	That ends up to be his best friend and forever, Robert Mueller.
	And now we've got Robert Mueller, everything that I was predicting.
	I predicted, number one, Comey would do a book deal.
	Now he's shopping a book deal.
	Now Robert Mueller is expanding the probe, according to Bloomberg, to Trump business transactions.
	Now, what does that have to do with anything?
	And how far does this investigation creep, Mission Creep go?
	Well, I think the Congress ought to be calling Mueller in to defend these kind of things.
	I mean, you know, he's not some high priest of sanctity.
	They have every right to call him in, first of all, and say, why would you hire only anti-Trump lawyers?
	And they have every right to call him in and say, tell us what you think the boundaries of your assignment is, and what is the limit of what you're willing to look at.
	And then they ought to render judgment.
	I mean, if they think this guy's gone crazy, they ought to abolish the job.
	Well, who would have the ability to do that?
	And what did you think of the president's comments about Jeff Sessions?
	Well, look, those are two different questions.
	First of all, the Judiciary Committee in the House of the Senate could easily do it, and they should do it.
	Second, I thought it was unfortunate.
	I know the president feels that way because he's told you that in private.
	He's told me that in private.
	But Jeff Sessions is a very decent guy who stood by President Trump all through the campaign, stood by him when there was a period when I think he was the only senator who was openly for him, stood by him through all the controversies, did everything he could to help him win and everything he could to help him in the transition.
	And I understand Trump's frustration.
	I don't even necessarily disagree with it, but I think it sends a terrible signal to his own team.
	You don't want to think that tomorrow morning you could wake up and your name could be the one being attacked.
	And I just think the president has to have a little bit of, he's got to learn to be disciplined enough to think like a team leader and not just think like some guy who's chatting.
	First of all, why is he giving the New York Times a lengthy interview?
	Where would that possibly be to his advantage?
	It never would.
	Well, I just turned down a Sunday Times cover piece, 6,000, 7,000 words.
	Did I make the right choice?
	Absolutely.
	You know, when I was first speaker, I hired a guy who spent three months to do a cover in me.
	Yeah.
	And it was too positive, so they killed it.
	Exactly.
	The guy said, no, I just want to do a fair piece.
	And I said, even if you did a fair piece, one, your editors wouldn't let it run.
	And I said, number two, I said they would excoriate you, all your friends in the establishment media.
	They would destroy you.
	Anyway, we'll take a quick break.
	More with Newt Gingrich, his best-selling book, Understanding Trump.
	All right, as we continue with former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich.
	You know, do you remember where you were when this whole OJ thing went down?
	Do you know where I was in Atlanta at the time?
	But they were in the Bronco chase?
	I was actually at home in Atlanta watching it on Friday night, I think.
	Right.
	I was at Lestrada.
	Remember Lestrada and Roswell?
	Yeah.
	And everybody's around the television.
	And so what do you think about the country still obsessing over this?
	Well, look, I mean, O.J. was one of those remarkable figures that was a great sports star, then did a brilliant job of transitioning into entertainment.
	I mean, I still love the Naked Gun series of movies that he was involved in.
	And so he was kind of like larger than life.
	And then, of course, how do you get a better drama than the white Bronco going around Los Angeles with helicopters over?
	I mean, the whole thing was insane.
	And then the trial itself and all the different details.
	I mean, Greta Van Sasha made her entire career out of being the person who kept explaining what's going on.
	There were a ton of people who made their chris.
	Do you know that in part, I was on CNN the day it was announced that the arrest of O.J. Simpson was imminent.
	And I was on CNN at the time.
	And it was this Dr. Sonia Friedman woman.
	And I said, just before they had the breaking news, I said, well, of course he's going to be a suspect.
	Look at the past conduct that he's had and violence against women.
	And suddenly she goes, That's irresponsible, Mr. Talk Show host.
	Next thing you hear, CNN breaking news: the arrest of OJ is imminent.
	Things haven't changed.
	Then the funny thing is, they had no guests at the time at CNN, and they kept me and Tavis Smiley on there for like five hours.
	Wow.
	I mean, you know, you know, the thing that struck me, I looked at a picture a day or two ago, and I mean, what a human tragedy.
	Here's a guy who had a great start in life, was a you know, was a genuine national figure, had a great career, had a ton of money, had a beautiful wife, and just it all got away from him and destroyed him.
	It really is sad.
	Listen, I actually think the years he got in this particular case were extraordinarily excessive.
	And I think in part because people wanted him to pay for what he got off of.
	And then remember how it divided the country.
	I remember I was on the air in my studios.
	Remember, I was a local radio host in Atlanta, and I was in the studio when the verdict comes down.
	And then I looked in the newsroom.
	I mean, the divide that we saw in the country, I saw in the newsroom where I was working.
	And that divide politically exists today.
	Oh, I think that's right.
	You know, I mean, there are people who are convinced that he was framed and people who are convinced that he was guilty, and neither side seems likely to change.
	I have no idea what young people, by the way, you know, people who are growing up in the post-OJ world, this must all seem strange to them.
	I guess it probably did.
	You know, I just, it's funny because I was telling my staff today, I said, there's a whole generation of people that really don't know this case, didn't follow this case the way we all followed it so closely.
	And, you know, look at Geraldo, look at Greg Jarrett.
	Look at, you know, and just to a smaller extent, I mean, this isn't what I do, which is O.J. Simpson.
	You know, years ago, I was called up.
	Member Geraldo had a daytime show, and I went on his daytime show to be a guest about OJ.
	And that's how I know.
	Crazy memories.
	All right, just a quick diversion.
	Congratulations again.
	Week number eight on the New York Times list.
	Understanding Donald Trump, it was number one for a while, and it's still in the top 10 still.
	And it's one of the best-selling books in the country.
	And it's on Amazon.com, bookstores everywhere, Hannity.com.
	Mr. Speaker, thanks for being with us.
	Great.
	Good talking to you.
	All right, we'll take a break.
	We'll come back.
	We'll continue more of our top stories of the day.
	What's going to happen?
	Republicans, healthcare.
	Yes, the deep state.
	They're leaking and sabotage of the president and O.J. Simpson.
	Hi, 25 till the top of the hour, 800-941.
	Sean, you want to be a part of the program?
	So, Rosie O'Donnell, the latest after Johnny Depp, after Kathy Griffith, after, let's see, Robert De Niro, and all these other lunatics in Hollywood and their left-wing hate.
	It is a weird tension.
	I think we're at a dangerous time for the First Amendment and for the free press in this country.
	And at the same time, we're oddly influential with the guy who wants to kill us.
	And to our detractors that insist that this march will never add up to anything, you.
	You.
	But this is the hallmark of revolution.
	Yes, I'm angry.
	Yes, I am outraged.
	Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.
	You know, I had a dream the other night about that I was playing golf with Donald Trump and I was standing beside him with a club in my hand and I was, you know, considering my options when I suddenly woke up.
	You know, it's one of those dreams where you want to just get back to sleep so you can finish it.
	You know?
	That was pretty good.
	I might have to put Mr. Burgess on Fox News.
	I'll put Mr. Burgess up against Sean Hannity.
	He'll tear him up.
	I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors.
	I want you to talk to them whether they're independent or whether they are Republican.
	I want you to argue with them and get in their faces.
	Press always ask me, don't I wish I were debating him?
	No, I wish you were in high school.
	I could take him behind the gym.
	That's what I would say.
	What we've got to do is fight in Congress, fight in the courts, fight in the streets, fight online, fight at the ballot box.
	And now there's the momentum to be able to do this.
	This is a death panel bill because people will die.
	This is deadly.
	This is deadly.
	We can't stand it.
	I understand.
	Your president is a dishonorable, lying man.
	Ordinary people who simply saw what needed to be done and came together and supported those ideals who have made the difference.
	They've marched.
	They've led.
	Yes, some of them have died.
	This is hard.
	Every good thing is.
	We have done this before.
	We can do this again.
	I don't respect this president.
	I don't trust this president.
	He's not working in the best interests of the American people.
	His motives and his actions are contemporary.
	And I will fight every day until he is impeached.
	Impeached 45.
	Impeached 45.
	As far as I'm concerned, the T-Party can go straight to hell.
	In fact, the only thing your mouth is good for is being Vladimir Putin's holster.
	Oh, Ivanka's going to be our saving grace, you know, when he's about to nuke Finland or something.
	She's going to walk into the bedroom and, you know, daddy.
	Daddy.
	Don't do it, Daddy.
	I mean, he's so blatantly stupid.
	He's a punk.
	He's a dog.
	He's a pig.
	He's a con, a bull artist, a mutt who doesn't know what he's talking about, doesn't do his homework, doesn't care.
	Thinks he's gaming society, doesn't pay his taxes.
	He's an idiot.
	Colin Powell said it best.
	He's a national disaster.
	He's an embarrassment to this country.
	It makes me so angry that this country has gotten to this point, that this fool, this bozo, has wound up where he has.
	He talks how he wants to punch people in the face.
	Well, I'd like to punch him in the face.
	And I might just kill ISIS with the same ice pig that I murdered Donald Trump in the same night with.
	Which enemy are you most proud of?
	Probably the Republicans.
	Well, there was an incident that occurred while dancing at a bar.
	Okay.
	A person has a Make America Great hat on their head and it falls on the floor.
	Then a bar patron, Emma Rodriguez, allegedly stomps on this person, Val's hat.
	Val told the Rebel that after he asked her to stop and gently placed his hand on her shoulder to move her away, Rodriguez's boyfriend allegedly attacked Val from behind with a beer bottle.
	Anyway, so this individual and Rodriguez allegedly continued the assault against Val, bleeding out on the floor of the bar.
	Anyway, here to give us more information about all of this.
	Laura Loomer is a commentator for Rebo.
	And also joining us is Dr. Joseph Pober is with us and pro-Trump activist Jovi Vall.
	How are you?
	Hey guys.
	I'm doing well, Sean.
	How are you?
	How's it going?
	All right, Jovi, you're the person that's a victim in all this.
	So tell me what happened.
	You have a – so I guess the – I was leaving a party, and then we decided to go to a bar, me and my friends.
	And I had the Make America Great Again hat, red with white lettering, you know, the iconic one.
	And I'm there for a few hours just dancing.
	And the people that attacked me were there too.
	And finally, my hat falls on the floor.
	And I guess she took advantage of that and started stepping on it.
	I gave her the benefit of the doubt.
	I was like, you know, maybe she accidentally stepped on it.
	So I give her some time to like, you know, redeem herself.
	And it's like, nope, she's stomping on it.
	She's like scraping it against the floor.
	Mind you, there's liquor in class on the floor.
	She doesn't care.
	She's so angry.
	And then I'm just like looking at her like, what are you doing?
	And then she's like, I hate the hat and I hate you.
	And I'm like, this is not, I'm not for this right now.
	Like, this is not the time for this.
	So I moved her away to check my hat and I go to get my hat and then like the guy sees me do that to her.
	He sees me move her away and then he puts his hands on me.
	He punches me right in my nose, breaks my nose, cuts my face.
	She hits me in the back of the head with a glass bottle.
	And I know for sure if I did not have the hat on, this would have never happened.
	And people are saying that, you know, oh, you should have just waited for her to get off your hat.
	And I was like, no, I'm sorry.
	So the picture that I've seen on the internet, on social media, on Twitter, for example, that's a real picture of you.
	Oh, yes.
	These injuries are massive.
	I know.
	How are you healing?
	Great.
	Thanks to Laura Loomer and Dr. Joseph Pover.
	I'm healing great.
	You know, she found out what happened to me.
	She wanted to make sure she got in contact with somebody to help me raise funds on certain websites like WeSearch or GoFundMe and PayPal.
	And we managed to find the plastic surgeon named Dr. Pover who was disgusted when he heard the story.
	And he's also a Trump supporter.
	He tells me, like, you know, there's Trump supporters whispering.
	By the way, plastic surgeons are not cheap.
	Not at all.
	Not that I know myself, but I've never been to one.
	I just know from reading about it.
	Why are you giving me that?
	Look, oh, what do you know about plastic?
	I've never been that.
	I can barely go to get a checkup.
	Well, I'm sorry this happened to you.
	Do you have witnesses to this?
	Yes, we had a couple of friends that we went to a Milo Yiannopoulos' book release party for his book, Dangerous.
	So we went there and we were coming out of that party, all of us together.
	You know, all Trump supporters.
	We're all just hanging out, having a great time.
	I'm telling you, Sean, Mr. Hanity, if you were there, you would love how we're having a great time in New York City with our Trump hats with, you know, just supporters.
	Like, we're just having a great time.
	And here's these two sour apples that just walk in and it's like just ruined it all.
	You know, it's a shame.
	And this is what people are afraid of.
	People are always whispering that the Trump supporters.
	They never yell it.
	I yell that I'm a Trump supporter.
	I'm born and raised in New York City, and I will, I didn't like the fact that they were blocking Fifth Avenue to cry about an election.
	It's disgusting.
	It's like, I don't know why they're doing this.
	And I needed to stand up for my city, which de Blasio doesn't want to do.
	So I figured I'll do it instead.
	Well, let me go to Laura Loomer.
	You might remember Laura because she was the first person when Shakespeare in the park, Julia Caesar, was going on and they were having a Trump lookalike killed every day.
	She was the first person to storm the stage and say this just isn't right.
	And by the way, that was all happening around the time that we had the assassination attempts of these Republicans and these hit lists.
	And Steve Scalise is still in the hospital to this day.
	Laura, how did you get involved in all this?
	Well, you know, I'm a reporter for The Rebel here in New York.
	And I know Jovi because he's also a pro-Trump activist who stormed the stage of Julius Caesar a couple days later.
	And so him just being in my social circle and also a friend of mine, you know, I was very concerned about him.
	And so as soon as he was released from the hospital, you know, I went to his house in Brooklyn and I, you know, I made sure that he was receiving care.
	And, you know, I was very concerned because his injuries were very traumatic.
	And I immediately wrote up a story and put a call out on social media for yeah, by the way, we posted it on Hannity.com.
	How many witnesses to this assault do we have?
	How many, Jovi?
	I would say we left the party with about like 10 or 15 of us.
	And, you know, there was also bargoers there that weren't a part of the group that were upstairs.
	There were so many different angles that this happened from.
	And it's like nobody stopped it either.
	That's that's what I don't understand.
	Like nobody.
	And, you know, I've been I've been speaking out against political violence against the right.
	And, you know, it's just crazy to think that even one of the protesters who stormed the stage with Julius Caesar was a victim of left-wing political violence here in New York, here in New York City.
	So, you know, it's a problem.
	It's a problem that a lot of the mainstream media is refusing to cover, of course, because it doesn't fit their narrative.
	You have a Trump supporter who was attacked by registered Democrats in New York.
	And, of course, the day a hate crime occurs against a New York native, what do you have?
	You have Mayor Bill de Blasio in Germany protesting with Antifa against President Trump.
	We don't even have leadership here in the city to stand up for conservatives who are becoming victims of these vicious political hate crimes.
	Dr. Joseph Poeers, the chief of plastic surgery at Hackensack University Medical Center, and you are the one that takes care of Jovi.
	Tell us the extent of these injuries.
	They look horrible online on social media.
	Hi, thank you for having me.
	When I first saw Jovi in my office on Tuesday, almost a couple of weeks ago, he presented with a bit of a hematoma on his cheek and a still very badly fractured nose.
	When I examined it, he had evidence of a nasoceptal fracture and fracture both his bones.
	When I reviewed the CG scan from the hospital, he confirmed that he had a complex nasoceptal fracture, which is a very severe injury.
	It's one step away from the worst kind of nasal fracture you could have called a no fracture where you had the eyes involved as well.
	So he had a level four type four type fracture, and his laceration of it on his cheek wasn't healing that well.
	It looked like it had a little blood still collecting beneath it, called a hematoma.
	So I scheduled him for surgery to have both the nasal fracture reduced at an acute stage and also to drain the hematoma and revise the scar on his cheek.
	And, you know, I assume that insurance, if somebody had a good insurance policy, and I mean a good one, it probably would be covered.
	But I mean, the type of procedure you're doing, and I understand you did a pro bono, and that was really nice of you, but I understand it would be very expensive, right?
	Well, yeah, and unfortunately, insurances today are so variable in terms of their coverage.
	You know, even if the person has insurance today, there's no assurance that they have coverage for these specific issues.
	We're finding more and more highly strained insurance coverages.
	So whether a person has insurance or not, especially in New York, it becomes almost a blue point.
	Yeah.
	I just, now, how many other people, Laura, because I know you spend a lot of time on social media and Twitter, and I know you're been doing a lot of reporting and commentating for Rebel, but how many instances like this are happening that nobody's reporting?
	There's a lot of them, you know, all across the country.
	But Jovi was the second friend of mine and the second Trump activist in one week here in New York City to be attacked and beaten.
	There were a group of crowd boys who went to a bar in New York the same week that Jovi was attacked, and they were wearing their hats and they were with a disabled individual.
	And a Democrat who described himself as a member of Antifa took the cane away from the disabled Republican and used it to beat the other Trump supporters over the head.
	So, you know, one of my friends had to get staples in his head because his head was cracked open because he was a victim of left-wing political violence.
	Another one of my friends who was there received a broken, I don't know if he broke his nose, but he definitely had a black eye and some cuts on his face.
	So, you know, the injuries are severe.
	And Dr. Poeber, after examining Jovi's face, had said that if he had been hit a little harder, Jovi's face could have been paralyzed.
	He lost a significant amount of blood, and it could have actually killed him.
	So when are we going to start classifying Antifa and these violent leftist groups as terrorist organizations?
	When is Bill deGlasio going to take a stand against these hate crimes against conservatives?
	Oh, it's true, and it's happening all over the place.
	What happened with the PayPal GoFundMe, the PayPal, GoFundMe things that you had up on the internet, Jovi?
	They took them down on you or what?
	Yeah, so what we did was we wanted to start a GoFundMe.
	That's usually where you want to start it at, and they shut it down.
	Well, they suspended it.
	So we raised about, I would say, a thousand, then they suspended it.
	So we were like, you know, we're not just going to give up on that, but we'll come back to it later.
	We did PayPal.
	Then there was people saying that they cannot send funds to the PayPal.
	So then we finally did a WeSearcher.
	And then right after the WeSearcher comes up, me and a couple of people were just working on getting the GoFundMe and a PayPal back.
	And finally, we did.
	And now we have all three up.
	And we're just trying to raise money right now.
	Also, for this idea that, you know, what happened to me was a political hate crime.
	And it needs to be treated as such.
	And for that reason, we're raising money through Scars and Stripes.
	Scars and Stripes is a fund that we're starting to help victims of political hate crimes.
	All right.
	I've got to thank you all for being with us.
	I'm sorry you went through this.
	We're going to continue to monitor and chronicle all this insanity and hatred and viciousness and vileness.
	And we all know that if it was happening to Hillary Clinton or her supporters or Bernie Sanders or Barack Obama, that we'd get a very different amount of commentary from the media.
	Right.
	Anyway, we'll take a quick break.
	All right, Hannity, tonight, 10 Eastern, we will have the latest.
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	Geraldo is out on the West Coast.
	Don't worry, went on to an O.J. Christopher Dardney was one of the prosecutors in the case.
	In case you're just joining us, Harvey Levin tonight will have the very latest on the inaction of Republicans.
	Newt Gingrich will weigh in on all of that.
	And Ted Cruz has a way to dramatically lower premiums.
	He'll tell us how.
	All right, that's all the time we have left for today.
	Let not your heart be troubled.
	We will be back here tomorrow.
	See you tonight on Hannity at 10.
	Thanks for being with us.

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