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July 19, 2017 - Sean Hannity Show
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America Stuck With ObamaCare - 7.18
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This is an epic failure.
There's no excuse.
There's there's no spin.
There's no rationale.
Wherefore?
How come?
Why?
It is total and utter failure.
An epic failure that they better, better get their act together fast, or they're all going to pay the price politically.
And that's my message to these dopey swamp people in Washington.
And yeah, mostly the Republicans.
It's the Republicans that promised in 2010, give us the House, we'll repeal and replace Obamacare.
Give us the House and Senate in 2014 will repeal and replace Obamacare.
And it's give us the House and the Senate.
You have a president sitting as his desk.
He'll sign what you send him to get on the road to fixing the mess of $8,000 on average premium increases by these because of Obamacare and the millions that lost their doctors and their coverage.
And the death spiral that has now become so rampant nationwide, where how many what percentage of counties in the country have one option?
One.
And in some cases, they'll have zero options.
And you have the head of the health care industry saying this is a death spiral.
We can't afford it.
We're losing.
We're out.
At least the House bill is imperfect as it was, and I told you it was imperfect.
And it was frustrating then because what did we learn?
We learned at least a hundred House Republicans were full of crap.
They had never had any intention of repealing and replacing Obamacare.
Never.
Now one and they there wasn't even a thought to them.
But we knew that at the time because every time they would have a show vote, some 50, 60 show votes, they'd never use their constitutional authority.
The power of the purse, where they could actually put some teeth into it and defund Obamacare.
They didn't want to do that.
They want to take a risk.
Well, now we're now we're at a tipping point.
So now you got the Senate and health care failed again today.
And then Mitch McConnell.
Well, first let me play the president.
I won't play Mitch McConnell.
Here's the president reacting with disappointment and saying that he's not going to own Obamacare.
Let it fall, let it fail.
Well, it's failing and it's in a death spiral.
That's not going to help the people that currently need help desperately.
Listen to the president.
We've had a lot of victories, but we haven't had a victory on health care.
Uh we're disappointed.
I am very disappointed because again, even as a civilian, for seven years I've been hearing about health care.
And I've been hearing about uh repeal and replace.
And Obamacare is a total disaster.
Some states had over a 200% increase.
A 200% increase in their premiums, and their deductibles are through the roof.
It's an absolute disaster.
And I think you'll also uh agree that I've been saying for a long time, let Obamacare fail, and then everybody's going to have to come together and fix it and uh come up with a new plan and a plan that's really good for the people with much lower premiums, much lower cost, and much better protection.
I've been saying that, Mike.
I think you'll agree for a long time.
Let Obamacare fail.
It'll be a lot easier.
And I think We're probably in that position where we'll just let Obamacare fail.
Uh, we're not going to own it.
I'm not going to own it.
I can tell you the Republicans are not going to own it.
We'll let Obamacare fail, and then the Democrats are going to come to us and they're going to say, how do we fix it?
How do we fix it?
Or how do we come up with a new plan?
So we'll see what happens.
There's some other things going on right now as we speak.
But I am disappointed because for so many years I've been hearing repeal and replace.
I'm sitting in the Oval Office right next door, pen in hand, waiting to sign something, and I'll be waiting, and eventually we're going to get something done, and it's going to be very good.
But Obamacare is a big failure, and it has to be changed.
We have to go to a plan that works.
We have to go to a much less expensive plan in terms of premiums.
And something will happen and it'll be very good.
May not be as quick as we had hoped, but it's going to happen.
Well, it's not going to be as quick as we hope.
And I all I'm saying is there just isn't an excuse.
None.
Now, I do give McConnell, if McConnell can't get this done.
I'm sorry, McConnell does need to go.
If they can't up their urgency in the House, then Ryan's going to need to go.
And they're going to have to get people like Mark Meadows or somebody that has a sense of urgency and a desire to do the job and fulfill the promises that they made.
So McConnell responds today, which by the way is a great plan B. And the plan B is we we've talked about the 2015 bill, which everybody voted for.
Now, in spite of the way it's reported, it is not a complete repeal.
And that's why, you know, when I would debate Ram Paul, it's different times.
He said, let's go back to the 2015 bill.
We promise we'd repeal it.
And that does give you options, and then it gets you out of a lot of the reconciliation issues involved.
And then you can build a transition plan.
I have a caveat.
You can't have a repeal bill only and then bulk it up with millions and millions and billions and billions of new spending, and it just becomes a boondoggle and just becomes another wasteful government big expansion.
That's not going to work for me if it's under the name of let's repeal it and then we'll transition to free market competition.
There are great options out there, which I'll get into in a minute.
There are solutions to this problem.
We have been covering them for years, discussing them for years.
But here's what McConnell said, and the only thing I'll tell you is a practical matter.
I I wish it wasn't the case, but as a practical matter, it really doesn't seem to matter because Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski and Caputo have all said they won't vote for a straight appeal.
Repeal.
And they all voted for it, those that are there in 2015.
How do you justify voting for it then and not now?
Except that you're playing hardcore politics, and you never meant what you said.
It's so despicable.
This is the swamp.
Anyway, so McConnell's repeal-only bill was passed by Congress in 2015.
The exact same bill, Republicans passed that year.
In other words, every Republican who voted for repeal in 2015.
What now they're going to suddenly oppose it because it's real now?
And there's a president that will sign that bill, and it actually holds them accountable to the promises that they make.
Here's what he said.
Everyone knows about Obamacare's skyrocketing costs and its plummeting choices.
Too often, however, this discussion seems to veer into the abstract.
They're not just numbers on a page.
These are the lives of real people.
These are the men and women we represent, Americans who are hurting, middle class families deserve better than Obamacare's failures.
We worked hard to provide them with a better way.
We did so in the knowledge that this task would not be easy.
We understood it would not come quickly.
But we knew that it was the right thing to do, so we pushed forward.
Anyway, I believe we must continue to push forward now.
I regret that the effort to repeal and immediately replace the failures of Obamacare will not be successful.
That doesn't mean we should give up.
We will now try a different way to bring the American people relief from Obamacare.
I think we owe them at least that much.
In the coming days, the Senate will take up and vote on a repeal of Obamacare combined with a stable two-year transition period As we work toward patient-centered health care.
A majority of the Senate voted to pass the same repeal legislation back in 2015.
President Obama vetoed it then.
President Trump.
President Trump will sign it now.
Democrats were celebrating last night.
I hope they consider what they're celebrating.
The American people are hurting.
They need relief.
And it's regrettable that our Democratic colleagues decided early on that they did not want to engage with us seriously in the process to deliver that relief.
But this doesn't have to be the end of the story.
Passing the repeal legislation will allow us to accomplish what we need to do on behalf of our people.
Our Democratic friends have spoken a lot recently about wanting bipartisan solutions.
Passing this legislation will provide the opportunity for senators of all parties to engage with a fresh start and a new beginning for the American people.
I can totally, completely support this with one caveat, that they don't bulk it up with new government entitlement spending, which they're capable of.
Now, I have, I will say this, I have been, my frustration has been growing.
You've heard me commenting now on radio and TV for weeks to get their job done.
I do not understand breaking a seven-year promise.
I do not understand how this is even a possibility that it doesn't get done.
It's beyond any comprehension of how most of us live our lives.
We all under-promise and over-deliver.
Most of us don't go to expensive Senate dining room lunches.
Most of us don't go to the Senate barbershop.
Most of us don't have the the, you know, for the next six months, they have 30 days or less scheduled on the calendar to work.
You don't go on a vacation, come back 15 days working, and then take another 30-day vacation.
So here is my idea and suggestion.
Failure cannot be an option.
I'll support a full repeal, a transition as long as you don't bankrupt us in the process.
I think that's actually ultimately a better way to do it because I didn't particularly love the House bill at all.
The only thing the House bill did was, according to the CBO, lower premiums by about 30, 35% and make it legal to get health savings accounts, these cooperatives of my friend Dr. Unger and uh Umber in Wichita, Atlas MD.
And it also allowed in in this particular case, a lot of free market competition, health savings accounts.
So it it created the venue, but it still kept way too much of Obamacare in place.
It did also eliminate the taxes.
So this is my advice for Mitch McConnell if he wants to stay in power.
You need to get your 52 senators in a room.
I know Senator McCain's sick.
He can come when he when he's feeling better.
We wish him the best.
Get all your senators in a room.
And I get a big blackboard I would bring in.
And I'd say, put on the blackboard, do your job, keep the promises you made the American people.
And in that room, I would make everybody take their cell phones and leave them outside.
Let their aides have them outside the door.
I'd have it in a room where nobody in the press can listen in the air ducts and hear what you're all are saying.
And then I'd order plenty of water, Coca-Cola, Sprite, Dr. Pepper for Louis Gomer, and he likes Dr. Pepper.
And I'd even, I'll even throw in pizza.
I'll send pizza.
And I'd throw in pizza, maybe Kentucky fried chicken, not Senate dining room uh fair that they're used to.
And I turn the air condition off.
And I'd stay in there and I'd make you all sweat it out until you can barely tolerate it anymore.
And stay in there and do what the American people do every day.
That's get up, keep their promises, do their job, and do it till it's completed.
And if you don't do that, Senator McConnell, you need to resign.
Get out of the way.
Then we'll put in a new leader.
And then he could put everybody in a room.
And instead of pizza, maybe we'll just give them pretzels this time.
And then to stay in the room until they hammer out a deal.
And if That person can't get it done.
Put another person in there.
Stop making excuses and get your job done.
Get it done.
I don't want to hear it anymore.
800.
941 Sean.
It's an epic failure.
It is an epic.
It is a betrayal.
Get your job done.
There's a trillion dollars in savings needed so we can move forward with an economic plan to get people out of poverty off of food stamps back to work and buying homes.
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You will continue.
So a good friend of mine writes me, oh, turn the air condition off.
That's not gonna happen.
They deserve their comfort in the U.S. Senate.
On a scale of one to ten, I I'm gonna go to Linda Lass because I already know the answer.
Ethan, where is your head on this?
Because I'm I'm apoplectic.
I'm so livid.
Where are you?
I I'm really pissed off.
I don't know.
Well, one to ten.
Where are you?
Just give me a number.
It's Jason, where are you?
I'm about uh twelve, thirteen.
Where are you, Sunshine?
If anyone's less than a ten, it's you.
I'm a one.
This is exactly what I've expected from these guys.
I have no faith in them whatsoever.
I'm over it.
You can't be over.
You know what?
Because you can't be over it.
Because it's like to me, that's like giving in.
You know, James is like, I'm a hundred.
He's he's literally flashing ten, ten, ten, ten, ten at me.
Um, Linda, I uh what are you?
You're a thousand because you go a thousand mile out.
I'm I'm apoplectic.
I am so did you notice I almost cursed on the air in the last segment?
I did.
I'm that's what the that's the negative impact you've had on my career.
You put pushes in the world.
You're welcome.
I'm well um, yeah, okay, that happens, and here we go.
Here come the protests, here come the blind.
I don't know if you've heard the protests, but they use lots of savory language.
Yeah, no, that's true.
But so what's your number on this?
You know, I don't have a number.
I'm kind of like Mel Gibson and Braveheart as I storm in to take over the counties, you know, and I'm gonna take some gonna take some names and numbers.
No, I'm beyond it.
You know how short-sighted this is.
I mean, this is what drives me crazy about political fear.
And these politicians, they get they get the job and they want to be called congressman and senator and governor and you know, whatever whatever their name is, whatever their title is, and they get it and they like it.
And they their egos are satisfied.
And the whole notion of of the people they were that were running, that were making promises, that had principled ideas that wanted to make the country better.
All of a sudden it becomes more important, it begins to balance begins to shift.
And they like the power, they like the prestige more than they they like the concept of serving the American people.
And so they think when they don't take a risk and they don't take a chance and they're not courageous, that somehow they're they're taking the safe route to stay in power and keep their prestige.
But the reality is it's it's just it's not true.
I mean, it's there's a a great great divide here.
The irony is that if they would be courageous, if they would keep their promises, if they would do the right thing, if they would unite, unite us.
Remember, Sir William Wallace, we're gonna use Braveheart.
Unite us.
They do their job.
That's good politics.
This is really dumb politically.
We'll continue.
All right, 25 till the top of the hour, toll-free telephone numbers 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
You know, I'm I'm thinking about this a lot more about what ought to happen here.
And I'm not kidding around.
This is not a joke to me.
This is you you you good you take the 52 senators, you get in a room, you take their phones, you lock the door, and you keep them in there.
And you know what?
Our framers and our founders didn't have air conditioning.
Let's turn off the air conditioner.
And if we want to be really nice, we'll send in a couple of fans so that some of the older members don't pass out or get dehydrated.
Send in plenty of water, plenty of coke, plenty of Sprite, plenty of Dr. Pepper for Louis Gomert.
He never stops drinking it.
Take care of him.
Send in pizza.
No Senate dining room food.
Send in Kentucky fried chicken and burgers.
That's Trump's favorite.
Send them in.
And put on the blackboard keeping our promises, serving the American people.
That's what I think they ought to do.
And don't come out till you're done.
Don't come out till you can say the words.
We have an agreement.
We agreed to repeal Obamacare.
We've agreed on the transition for two years.
We have agreed that we're going to allow, and it's going to be legal to get catastrophic plans, which are what young people need.
Young people were screwed in the Obamacare deal more than anybody.
They were forced to buy a plan they didn't want and didn't need so that the money would be funneled to the sick and the elderly and the uninsured.
So they can buy the catastrophic plan that they want now.
That's a smart thing to do.
And then we can create, you know, health savings accounts right out of the box.
Why wait two years on that?
And then we can create health care cooperatives like our buddy Dr. Umber down at Atlas MD in Wichita.
I mean, there are so many easy answers.
Can you imagine that every American can actually get cat uh concierge health care for $50 a month?
I mean, I've had Dr. Umber on this program now since 2012.
I didn't even know it was that long until he told me the other day, knows the exact date.
It was in the summer of 2012.
Five years we've had this man on the program.
Five years and for 15 years, I've been talking about Musgrave and Goodman and Patient Power, which was put out by the Cato Institute, which identifies health savings accounts as the perfect answer.
In other words, you're building your own account tax-free throughout the years.
In your younger years, it incentivizes you to go and get a checkup.
And that's basically all young people need, unless they need stitches or they break a bone or something like that.
It's it's not the health care that they need.
Most health care is for your older years in life.
But if you have a catastrophic plan, then you have, okay, if God forbid you have an accident, you get cancer, you have a heart attack, you have an you have an answer.
And whatever your deductible is, if you make it a $2,000 deductible, okay, it's gonna cost more than a $5,000 deductible than a $10,000 deductible.
But at least it doesn't bankrupt you if you have a bad car accident.
Doesn't bankrupt you if you get cancer, God forbid.
Young people tend to not get it.
They get it, but not that often.
Or if you have a heart attack at a young age, a few people have them, not many.
But at least you'd be taken care of.
It's illegal under Obamacare.
You have Obamacare in a death spiral.
You have the average family didn't see on average $2,500 a year savings every year for the last eight years, just the opposite.
The average family has seen premium increases up to this year, about $8,000 on average per family.
Just the opposite of what was promised.
Health insurers now have pulled out of the marketplaces all over the country.
There are more counties that only have one option, and next year they may have none because no insurer wants to do this anymore because it's been a disaster for them.
And then on top of all that, then you've you've also got you know, there's no competition.
There's we're the government intrusion into our life.
How many millions lost their doctors, lost their plans?
But imagine healthcare cooperatives.
Now, Dr. Umber has been able to duplicate nearly what, 600, 800 places, been able to duplicate what he did in Wichita, and what he did is amazing.
For $50 a month, you get unlimited medical care.
Now he also assumes that most of his patients, and he's told me that most of his patients are like me.
They dread going to the doctor.
I don't feel like going to the doctor.
I don't want to spend the day at the doctor.
I don't want to poking and prodding and telling me to take my pants and my shirt off.
I don't feel like doing it.
I tend to do it once a year because my doctor traps me into some type of I and then when he traps me, then I got to do everything.
He traps me into getting into his office for under false pretenses.
And then when I'm there, you know, he gives me the whole works.
All right, just get on the treadmill.
It's only 15 minutes.
Come on, 15 minutes, 15 minutes.
Just do it.
Do it, do it.
And I'll do the treadmill.
And then he takes my blood.
And then I don't even want to tell you the rest of what he does.
He does it all.
And then, okay, I walk away with a with a clean bill of health.
I can go home, fine.
I feel better.
But imagine if you can have catastrophic insurance, which is very inexpensive, depending on what your deductible is.
So God forbid you have that heart attack.
You have that, yeah, you get cancer, you have a bad accident.
But more importantly, your day-to-day health coverage, which is what 99% of people need, that you have a doctor who's available 24-7 for $50 a month, and that includes x-rays and services, pharmaceuticals at a 97% discount because he negotiates directly with the pharmaceutical corporations.
You don't have to stop by the drugstore on the way home because he gives you your medicine on the way out the door if you have high blood pressure or high cholesterol.
He does quick, you know, blood tests right within his office.
That includes lab work, it includes x-rays, it includes stitches, even includes some broken bones in some instances.
But anything that's beyond that, then okay, you have your catastrophic insurance that'll cover that.
If you have a really bad incident that happens to you, I mean, it's the perfect one-two combination.
There is a solution, there is an answer.
It's not top-down government run anything.
And when you allow the free markets and you allow the individual medical practices competing for your health care dollars, how much do you spend a year now?
You know, what's the average premium for an individual?
25, 20,000 a year, I know people are paying.
That's for like a family plan, but individuals are paying 10 grand a year.
It's an insane amount of money.
Not only are you covered at 50 bucks a month for you, but then 10 bucks a month for all of your children.
And that means if if they get ear infections or or they have a temperature, or they get, I don't know, chicken pox.
That's all that's all covered.
And the medicines are covered, and the late night visits are covered, and the late night phone calls are covered.
And you don't go to the stupid emergency room or this idiotic facility with somebody you don't even know who they are.
And you can call your doctor 24-7.
So I mean, there are great answers to our health care dilemma.
And I know the left, they were giddy last night.
Chuck Schumer's celebrating.
Well, what are they celebrating?
They're celebrating their failure.
They're celebrating the disaster they caused.
But the bigger problem is Republicans.
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Now, I gotta tell you something.
This is not a failure that will go unnoticed.
Um I'd be very happy with a repeal of Obamacare, the same thing they voted for with in 2015.
I'd be very happy with that.
But I'm not gonna be happy if they can't get it done.
And if they can't get it done and they can't do their job and they can't fulfill their promises, then they don't deserve to lead.
It's it's really that simple.
It's not any more complicated.
And it would be like any of you that in your life in your job and your career, and you make promises, you better fulfill your promises.
One of the things that I I learned very early with my kids.
If I promise, oh, I'm gonna take you to Disney if you do AB or C, they'd rush off and do A B and C and then I'd be stuck going to Disney.
And if you don't keep your promises, how do they trust you?
You gotta keep your word.
I mean, we promise every day news, information, commentary, entertainment, you're not gonna get anywhere else.
Well, our day starts at 7 a.m. on this program.
And it's my great pleasure to do it.
It's an honor to be here.
Like it's an honor to be on TV.
I can't imagine not working harder in this show every day.
Because that's what I promised to do.
I can't phone in all this information.
You got to work.
You got to study.
You know, as a general rule, for every hour you spend on the air, you spend hours behind the scenes preparing.
I know a lot of people, maybe they're far more talented than me can get away with not preparing, but I prepare.
I just have no patience with these broken promises.
2010, 2014, 2016, repeal, repeal, repeal, repeal, repeal, repeal.
This was their big chance.
Now all of a sudden they can't even do a simple repeal because three of the people that voted to repeal in 2015 say, well, I didn't mean that.
Well, that means the only reason they did vote in 2015 is because they knew Obama was going to veto the bill.
This is their big opportunity.
You got they vote.
Do you know I looked it up in the break?
The Republican-controlled House has voted 68 times to repeal or delay parts of Obamacare.
68 times.
What is this?
A big game, a big giant fraud to these people.
We actually are stupid enough that we believed you people.
If Republicans want to be successful, I'll tell you right now, they don't fix this problem.
They are at risk.
And this is very bad for the president.
They will be at risk in losing the house in 2018.
I promise you that's going to be the case.
And it should be the case.
Or I promise you there's going to be primary after primary after primary.
And this should be a year in the Senate where they pick up at least six seats.
I, you know, I've been pointing out now for days.
All they need to do is this.
They need to repeal Obamacare.
If they transition it, I'm fine with that.
I think most Americans would be fine with that.
As long as they don't break the budget and break the bank in the process.
If they get that done, and you need the trillion dollar savings for the economic plan and the budget plan, we'll talk to the budget committee chairman later in the program today.
We got Rand Paul coming up today.
And Rand Paul, by the way, was pushing the idea of just full repeal like 2015 when we first started this debate, even before the House bill was passed, and I wasn't that thrilled with the House bill, except the CBO scored it at 30, 35% premium savings for the average American, and it opened up the possibility of cooperatives and health savings accounts, and it was a good first step, although not a complete repeal as they had promised.
But then we were all shocked to find a hundred House Republicans didn't mean what they said.
But if they get these four things done, we'll be they'll be fine.
If they repeal this bill, put a good practical bridge bill in place that offers free market competition that doesn't break the bank.
If the American people can see at least 300 miles of the border wall and the rest of the border wall, the 7,800 miles, whatever it is, funded, and they can see it with their own eyes.
If that's done, if they can really push the energy revolution, because the energy revolution's gonna create, if America dedicates itself to energy independence, there's millions of high-paying career jobs for people.
I mean 100,000, 200,000 a year jobs for people.
There's gonna be millions of them.
And then we won't depend on the Saudis and the Middle Eastern countries that hate our guts for the lifeblood of our economy.
So the next thing they've got to do is it's very, very simple.
Then they got to get the middle class tax cuts done because that's gonna stimulate the economy, create jobs, get people out of poverty off of food stamps and back in the labor force.
Then they've got to give the corporate tax cut because that does the same thing.
The repatriation of trillions that multinationals park overseas, well, you give them a reduced rate of 5, 10% and let that money back into the country, they're not gonna put it in a bank.
That's not how multinational corporations work.
You can incentivize them and say, we'll let you bring it back for 5% if you build a manufacturing center or a factory in Detroit or Milwaukee or Cleveland or Philly or any of these or Pittsburgh or any of these areas that are depressed around the country that need jobs.
Go to the highest, you know, unemployment counties, parts, cities in the country and incentivize those corporations to build their factories here.
That's gonna create jobs, get the economy going.
And all the noise about Russia, all the noise about everything goes away.
That's all they need to do.
That's it.
Just do that.
And the American people will respond and say, okay.
Jobs are being created, the economy's coming around, people are getting out of poverty.
Let's see.
Home ownership rates will start going up.
More money will be coming into the federal government.
Make it retroactive for the year.
That'll serve as a tax cut for every American.
Give people more of their hard-earned money back.
And let's get the country moving again.
Isn't that what we're if they can't do that?
Then what do these people stand for?
Then at that point, there's no need to have anybody in power.
Because they're they're as bad or worse than the Democrats.
I'm so I'm apoplectic.
I I I can't even I can't express the anger I feel.
It's so frustrating.
But it can be fixed.
That's the upside.
They better fix it.
I like my idea, throw them in a room with fans.
Like our founders and framers.
Hey, Linda, what a shocker.
My 18-year-old college-bound son is in my studio.
We only have about 30 seconds.
All right, so how's c how do you like college so far?
Uh I love college.
It's the best time of my life.
And you're behaving and you tell me everything that you're doing, right?
Absolutely.
I mean, I can't share.
I can't hide any secrets from you.
And and how many rules do I have for you?
Um six.
No, we have seven.
Seven rules.
No, you have six.
No, I have but there's one extra one because Lil's.
No, I can so throw it in now.
Why can't I throw in the rules now?
What I you know there's seven.
Tell them there's seven.
We got five seconds.
There are seven rules, I have just confirmed.
And how many of you broken?
We'll take a break.
We'll come back.
There's only one way to truly fix Obamacare.
Only one way.
And that's a full repeal.
A full repeal.
That's been our goal from the start.
That's our goal now.
And we plan to achieve it.
It's clear that any serious attempt to improve our health care system must begin with full repeal and replacement of Obamacare, a mission I remain fully committed to fighting on behalf of the people of Arizona.
Repealing Obamacare's poorly crafted and misguided mandates and replacing the law with a fiscally responsible reform bill that contains costs and provides more choices is the best path forward.
You can't repair this monstrosity.
You gotta tear it down and start all over again.
How do you get to that point though?
When they lose elections.
And you think that's the key that the Republicans have to take the Senate and from that point you can have a different strategy.
Yeah, the ones who survive in 2016 or up in 2016 are gonna have a different attitude.
All right, hour two, Sean Hannity Show, 800 941.
Sean, that those are the promises you've heard over the years again and again and again.
Give us the House in 2010, give us the Senate in 2014.
We'll give you 50 to 60 show votes, but we won't use the power of the purse.
Then we'll criticize Ted Cruz and Rand Paul and Mike Lee and others for daring to say we have constitutional authority and the power of the purse, and oh, he's gonna cost us the Senate in 2014, which never happened.
Then you get the White House, and they still can't get their act together.
Now, all right, so once this attempt at repeal replaced fell through today, to McConnell's credit, and I even said if he can't get the if he can't get the job done, he needs to go and find somebody who can get the job done.
But then to his credit, he said, okay, we'll repeal the bill and we'll have a two-year transition.
Now, I'm fine with that to go into the back to 2015, which Rand Paul is gonna join us in a second, has been calling for.
I'm a hundred percent fine as long as you don't pork the thing up in the transition period and waste billions and billions and billions in new entitlements.
Senator Rampall joins us now.
How are you, Senator?
Very good.
You know, I'm encouraged.
I think that we should vote on a clean repeal.
Republicans are on record.
Uh 51 out of 52 Republicans in the U.S. Senate voted for clean repeal in 2015.
And if they're gonna vote no now, they've got some explaining to do.
They can go to the case.
Collins, what's the other one?
Caputo and and Murkowski all saying no, they won't vote for full repeal.
Well, I think everybody should uh have to vote.
I think it's a good thing to put people on record.
And really, I think voters forgive a lot of things, even disagreement.
You know, I have people all the time say, Well, I don't agree with everything you do, but I know where you come from.
And so I think when you vote both ways on an issue, people start to wonder uh what you're about and if you can be trusted.
And so I think everybody that voted in 2015 to repeal it ought to vote the same way if we have the same vote.
You know, Senator, I this is what you wanted to do in the beginning.
I remember I interviewed you very early on.
I said, if this is how it ends up, I'd be happy with this.
But I do have my one caveat, my one caveat is what I just said.
I'm fine if as long dur as the transition goes on that you're not going to pork this thing up with billions and billions in extra spending.
Do you agree with that?
Well, to me, this is a compromise right now.
This is a partial repeal.
So it doesn't fix Obamacare.
Obamacare will be largely in place.
The adverse election, the death spiral will still be in place.
So this isn't the fix, but this is at least a compromise to repeal some of the worst parts of Obamacare.
And when we continue to fix it, I'm not for adding in pork, I'm not for adding in an insurance bailout, but I am for doing some things that we should have done a long time ago.
Expand health savings accounts.
Yep.
And I'm also for letting people join an association.
Nobody, no plumber, no carpenter, no welder, should have to buy insurance by themselves.
They should be allowed to join a group to buy their insurance.
And you like the guy that I you know I've been putting Josh Umber on the program and he's been to Washington now with with Secretary Price and so many others for since twenty twelve for five years, these cooperatives, fifty bucks a month, unlimited care.
The pharmaceuticals, he negotiates directly with the pharmaceutical companies, ninety eight percent discount, stitches, uh uh X-rays, everything's included for fifty bucks a month.
You get catastrophic insurance for cancer, a heart attack, or an accident, and you're you're covered.
It's not that complicated, Senator.
The marketplace is amazingly innovative if you give people freedom.
So if you give people freedom to join an association, the large size will bring down prices.
If you give people the freedom to buy health insurance how they want it, whether they pay it cash, whether they get a concierge uh type of practice like you're describing, where you can pay a doctor and you can get unlimited visits.
All of those things will happen in a free marketplace, but you've got to get government out of the way, and you've got to get rid of the Obamacare regulation.
So I can't emphasize enough that while I will vote for partial repeal, which is a step in the right direction.
Well, the twenty fifteen bill still leaves the death spiral of Obamacare in place, and it will still be a disaster until we fix and rip out the whole thing.
It was a myth that twenty fifteen was a full repeal, but it was as big a repeal as you can get based on Senate rules.
Is that correct?
It's close.
It's a it's a compromise.
It's a partial repeal.
And like I said, I'm gonna vote for it because it's uh it's much better than the monstrosity that they were working on that had insurance, you know, hundreds of billions of dollars for insurance bailouts.
But I will tell you that it is important that the death spiral of Obamacare still continues because prices are still gonna rise with this repeal, but the Democrats are never voting to repeal any of it.
So you can't rely on them.
And unfortunately, we don't have enough Republicans for a complete repeal.
All right, let me bring in Congressman Dave Bratt.
Congressman Bratt is a part of the Freedom Caucus, and and frankly, the Freedom Caucus is the only reason that any bill even got out of the House, and you know, the most frustrating part of that negotiation was we discovered a hundred Republicans had no intention of ever voting to repeal, even though they ran on it for years and years.
Um Are you in agreement with with Senator Paul that this is the best option we now have?
Because I actually think it's a good option.
I don't think it's a bad option.
Yeah, no, absolutely.
And and and just to tie it into the the broader uh discussions, we got the budget committee meetings going on right now, and the budget will include reconciliation instructions on tax reform.
And so last time they said, well, just vote for a budget vehicle and trust us on health care, right?
We're gonna do a free market uh reforms and lower the price and all that.
Well, look where we ended up now.
So it's it's critical we get it right uh on on our tax reform.
Right.
We we need there's a trillion dollars.
Do you think this is better than the House health care bill?
And there's $1 trillion in the border adjustable part of the tax reform package.
So we're $2 trillion light.
Speak, you need those two trillion dollars to pay for it, getting tax rates low.
So we gotta make sure our leadership teams are looking at that tax reform package as well, because we don't want to end up in the same spot where ended up on this health care debate, uh, not getting through the House in a free market form or the Senate total total blockage.
So in other words, the Senator had everything just right.
We need to get as much free market reforms as we can on the health care side.
And we do have to get that through because the tax piece is waiting on that as well.
And and the tax piece is the holy grail.
I agree with you, and that money is very important.
That savings that you're talking about is crucial.
Uh Senator Paul, I guess the most important next question is is the transition.
How long would that be?
And what do you think the reality is that you already have three senators saying no?
So how are you gonna get the repeal in?
Well, I think we have to have the vote either way, because I think if you voted for this bill to repeal Obamacare two years ago and you're voting against it now, I think you have to explain that to the voters.
And I would suspect that there's going to be a lot of voters in those states that are going to say, we're confused.
We thought you were for repealing, and now you're voting to keep Obamacare.
It is true, their point they're making is this doesn't fix the situation.
I agree completely.
I would do much more, but unfortunately we can't get consensus because the big government Republicans want more subsidies for insurance companies, and the free market Republicans want more freedom, less rules, more ability for people to join an association to buy their insurance.
Yeah, health savings accounts, these cooperatives.
The thing I love about this guy in Wichita, Dr. Umber at Atlas MD, and he's been able to duplicate this model nearly a thousand times around the country, fifty bucks a month, and then you just get catastrophic care and and you're fully covered, and you get the best care.
It's concierge care for everybody.
And so would that in other words, how long is the transition gonna be once you repeal it?
Well, what we have to do is then get to consensus for people to do the right thing, and that would be getting rid of the rest of the Obamacare regulations, legalizing expansion of health savings accounts, letting people buy their insurance out of the health savings account, and then letting people join an association, a nationwide association or co-op to buy their insurance.
The trick is are Democrats for any of these reforms.
They don't cost any money, they won't add to the debt, and they add to our freedom, so I suspect not many Democrats will be for it.
Well, let me ask you this.
I mean, all I want, I mean, you know what?
The things I want, guys, in in life are pretty simple.
I want my country safe and secure.
I want to I want to question people that come from countries whose values contradict ours.
I want a wall built so people can't just walk in any time they want.
I want an economy that gets Americans back to work, out of poverty and off of food stamps and buying homes.
You know what?
None of this is happening.
No Democrats gonna help.
And Congressman Bratt, if the Republicans can't agree on this, I I really don't have a lot of hope.
Yeah, well, you're right.
Don't lose hope.
Yeah, though what the the one key aspect, look at the look at who whipped the house into shape for a vote in the end, even though it wasn't the optimal piece.
Uh President Trump came in and did whip it together.
So if he gets out right now in messages on what Rand is just talking about, right?
Let's get a repeal.
Uh we have to get that through.
There'll be a few Republicans who will say no to that.
Uh let's see if they can, you know, let's see if uh Donald Trump can do some salesmanship on that piece.
Yeah, and then there won't be any shortage of people lined up to light up the Christmas tree and load up health care, right?
That's not gonna be a problem at all.
That's the way this city works.
So, first of all, you've got to repeal it, get get rid of as much of the regulations and the high cost provisions as we can, get the price down, and uh that the president is gonna be key in leading the way.
So his messaging over the next few days has to be very precise and telling us exactly what direction does he want us to go in.
Yeah, all right, stay right there.
We're gonna continue.
Senator Ramp Paul, Dave Bratt, Freedom Caucus.
You know, frankly, there's so few people in Washington that we can trust on this, and these two people have been very strong leaders and principled leaders to keep their promises.
And there's a few others, obviously the Freedom Caucus.
Ted Cruz has been fighting hard, Mike Lee's been fighting hard, and a few others, but very few.
And the fact that that these people that voted for this in 2015 are now saying no, it just it's so disgusting.
800 941 Sean, I'm gonna give uh both Senator Ramp Paul and Congressman Dave Brad a crack at my plan about locking them in a room.
The failure of the Senate to get health care done.
Mitch McConnell, I think rightly goes to, okay, let's go to 2015, do a full repeal.
Dave Bratt is with the Freedom Caucus.
All right, so all three of us agree that that would be a really good start.
The transition needs to be responsible.
We all agree on that, uh, which I'm always worried about in the swamp in DC.
You know, here's what I am saying to Mitch McConnell, and I know he's your fellow Senator from Kentucky.
I'm not going to put you in a bad spot, Senator Paul, but if he can't get this done, if he can't rally his troops to do to follow through on this fundamental pro on this fundamental promise, then I I frankly I don't have any hope for him or the Republicans in 2018.
My argument is get a room, take everybody's phone, all fifty-two of you, stay in there.
I'll mail pizza, I'll send pizza, I'll send chips, I'll send beer, I'll send water, I'll send Coca-Cola.
You stay in there until you guys hammer out an agreement and fulfill your promise.
Well, I am I might be able to go with that.
Are you envisioning maybe like a cage match or what do you have in the world?
I'm saying get a big enough room.
Well, right now it's fifty-one people to Senator McCain heels and gets better.
But fifty-one people in a room and put up on the board, keep our promises, serve the American people.
Get it done.
Well, I think you put the nail on the head in the sense that we promised to repeal Obamacare.
Everybody did.
We won four elections, and that's what the American people elected us to do.
And Republicans who are now not going to vote to repeal it, uh, they ought to be put on the spot and say, How are things different?
Why did you vote to do this in 2015?
You've got identical language in front of you.
Why are you now afraid to repeal Obamacare?
And and the Congressman Bratt, you dealt with the same thing in the House.
All of a sudden, all these Republicans, many of them that said, Oh, repeal replace and voted repeal replace and all those show votes, they were nowhere to be found when it came to really fixing the problem.
Yeah, well, and I I was talking about the opportunity President Trump has to lead on this.
I mean, he's got a big White House staff, and so uh when Republicans start turning around on their promises, uh just pull out the news clip and send them out over to the Senators, right?
Get in the get in the room like you were saying, put up the clips with everybody promising uh what they were going to do on health care.
And I think, you know, you you start putting tweeting those out publicly.
Here's here's the promise.
And uh, you know, you get a little flexibility up here, but not that much.
Well, I what about the idea of putting all of you senators in a room and not leaving Washington until it gets done?
I mean, frankly, uh if Mitch McConnell can't do this, can't fulfill this promise.
Twenty ten, give us the House we'll repeal.
Twenty fourteen, give us the House Senate, we'll repeal and replace.
Give us the House, Senate, and the Presidency.
Well, now you have them all.
Now the argument is we need more senators.
I would what I would argue is that the onus is on the people who decide not to vote to repeal Obamacare.
It really isn't.
You can't force people to vote one way or the other, but we can force them to have a vote.
So I am encouraged that we are moving towards a vote.
We have been debating this thing and debating this thing.
Let's have a vote on a repeal of Obamacare that we have voted on before that we are all on record of.
And if people are unwilling to, it's really the fault lies with them.
It doesn't lie with others.
It lies with those who refuse to re vote to repeal Obamacare.
Senator, do you think that your colleagues will stay until this gets done?
Well, I think there could be a vote very soon.
There was discussion at our caucus meeting today of doing it as soon as tomorrow.
So we are do you envision any Republican that has now gone on the record?
No, of the three, do you envision any of them backtracking?
Well, I tried to encourage them that my own unsolicited political advice is is that people are willing to forgive things that you vote for that they disagree with, but they're not as forgiving for those people who seem to vote both ways depending on which way the wind is blowing.
And so I think it's gonna be very difficult for people, and I would suspect that there will be Republican challengers for Republicans who vote different ways.
Vote first to repeal it in twenty fifteen and then against repealing it now.
It's so unnecessary and so disheartening and frustrating.
All right, Congressman Bratt, Senator Rampall, you two are not the problem.
You're keeping your word.
Thank you both for being with us.
800 nine four one Sean.
You want to be a part of the program.
We'll take a quick break.
We'll come back.
Why do you send me those notes, Linda?
What what are you doing?
And we'll continue straight ahead.
All right, 25 till the top of the hour.
The battle still engaged as it relates to the failure of Senate Republicans to get their promises complete on the issue of health care.
So let me go to back to Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader for now, and talking about what we all know.
Obamacare is failing.
Okay, we knew it wasn't gonna be easy, but we know the nothing that gets done in Washington is easy.
I've been explaining that.
I never particularly like the the House bill as I've been discussing today.
And so, okay, we know it's failing.
It's not easy.
And then McConnell tries to, and I think do the right thing.
Go back to the 2015 bill.
That's something we have discussed on this program ad nauseum, which is which is a smarter thing to do with with built-in time to transition out of it.
As long as it doesn't include and with everybody in DC in the swamp, you have to assume they're just gonna throw billions at it.
No, that's not gonna work either.
And as they transition to a new plan, but repealing it is the first step.
Then you get rid of the reconciliation process, hopefully.
And then Governor, I'm sorry, Vice President Pence weighs in that inaction is not an option, and it's not.
And this goes to the Hannity solution.
Throw them in a room, take their phones, lock the room, throw in some pizza and and beer and water occasionally, and let them rotten there till they do their job.
Anyway, let's play this.
Everyone knows about Obamacare's skyrocketing costs and its plummeting choices.
Too often, however, this discussion seems to veer into the abstract.
They're not just numbers on a page.
These are the lives of real people.
These are the men and women we represent, Americans who are hurting, middle class families deserve better than Obamacare's failures.
We worked hard to provide them with a better way.
We did so in the knowledge that this task would not be easy.
We understood it would not come quickly.
But we knew that it was the right thing to do, so we pushed forward.
Anyway, I believe we must continue to push forward now.
I regret that the effort to repeal and immediately replace the failures of Obamacare will not be successful.
That doesn't mean we should give up.
We will now try a different way to bring the American people relief from Obamacare.
I think we owe them at least that much.
In the coming days, the Senate will take up and vote on a repeal of Obamacare combined with a stable two-year transition period as we work toward patient-centered health care.
A majority of the Senate voted to pass the same repeal legislation back in 2015.
President Obama vetoed it then.
President Trump.
President Trump will sign it now.
Democrats were celebrating last night.
I hope they consider what they are celebrating.
The American people are hurting.
And it's regrettable that our Democratic colleagues decided early on that they did not want to engage with us seriously in the process to deliver that relief.
But this doesn't have to be the end of the story.
Passing the repeal legislation will allow us to accomplish what we need to do on behalf of our people.
Our Democratic friends have spoken a lot recently about wanting bipartisan solutions.
Passing this legislation will provide the opportunity for senators of all parties to engage with a fresh start and a new beginning for the American people.
Last night we learned that the Senate still doesn't have consensus on a bill to repeal and replace Obamacare at the same time.
President Trump and I fully support the majority leader's decision to move forward with bill that just repeals Obamacare and gives Congress time, as the President said, to work on a new health care plan that will start with a clean slate.
You know, the Senate actually passed the very same bill in 2015 and sent it to President Obama's desk, and they should do it again.
But to be clear, the Senate should vote to repeal now and replace later or return to the legislation carefully crafted in the House and Senate.
But either way, inaction is not an option.
Congress needs to step up.
And Congress needs to do their job now.
So the Democrats are loving this.
As I said, the more moderate governors, uh Terry McCulloff is salivating at the idea that he can be president one day, which is just basically Clinton Jr.
They're salivating at the fact that Republicans, here it is July 18th.
They can't get the job done.
And they're just hoping.
And so there's there's Chuck Schumer doing what he does best, poking and prodding and and pushing, and well, we need a bipartisan solution.
They don't want a bipartisan solution.
They want the president to fail.
They want to obstruct.
They want the Republicans to fail.
And all their anti-Trump rhetoric and obstructionism is about one that they they they're loving this.
They don't care about the millions that lost their doctor, their plans whose premiums have gone up eight thousand dollars on average.
They don't care.
But they think they all act like they care.
It's so phony.
Listen to Crocodile Tears Schumer.
Make no mistake about it.
Passing repeal without a replacement would be a disaster.
Our health care system would implode.
Millions would lose coverage.
Coverage for millions more would be diminished.
Our health care system would be in such a deep hole that repair would be nearly impossible.
In passing, in fact, passing repeal and having it go into effect two years later is in many ways worse than the Republican health care bill that was just rejected by my Republican colleagues.
It's like if our health care system was a patient who came in and needed some medicine.
The Republicans proposed surgery.
The operation was a failure.
Now Republicans are proposing a second surgery that will surely kill the patient.
Medicine is needed, bipartisan medicine, not a second surgery.
We urge our Republican colleagues to change their tune.
We're ready to sit down right now.
If Republicans abandon cuts to Medicaid, abandon huge tax breaks for the wealthy, and agree to go through the regular order, through the committees, with hearings, onto the floor, with time for amendments.
That's how we perfect legislation here.
That's how it's been done for 200 years.
Almost inevitably, when you try to draft something behind closed doors and not vet it with the public, it becomes a failure.
In this case, a disaster.
All right, let's get to our busy phones here.
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Justin, how are you?
Glad you called the all new AM 710 WOR.
What's going on?
Uh well, uh, I had a few questions about this.
I mean, the whole thing with the health care bear bill, I don't think Obamacare or uh the House plan or the SAM plan will have really fixed much.
You no, actually I disagree.
Because what what the Freedom Caucus fought for, and it but and I agree it wasn't the perfect bill.
But remember, during the whole House debate, what did we learn?
We learned that there were at least a hundred Republican congressmen that had no intention of ever repealing and replacing Obamacare.
That all of those, you know, 50, 60 show votes, whatever it was, that that's all they were were show votes.
But even at the time, I told you they were show votes, because if they really wanted repeal and replace, then they they would have used the power of the purse.
So that was the first indication that they were total BS votes.
So with that said, the people that I I really respect in Congress the most, the the Freedom Caucus, they're the ones that rolled up their sleeves, were working 20 hours a day, Mark Meadows, Jim Jordan, Dave Bratt, and all those guys, Louis Gomer, they were rolling up their sleeves,
and what they very cleverly did is they thread a needle to make sure that premiums go down and competition goes up, and they opened up the opportunity for catastrophic plans for you know things like Dr. Umber, and that is the these different cooperatives around the country, and and of course, what I think is important too, medical savings accounts.
So it wasn't perfect.
It wasn't a complete repeal.
Nobody said it was.
No, uh, but at the same time, we're being price gouged by the health industry.
I mean, if you look at the cost of X-rays and CT scans overseas as opposed to the costs here, it's ridiculous.
Yeah, but that's that was the whole point.
That's what remember the CBO predicted a 30 to 35 percent discre d decrease in premiums under the the House Freedom Caucus plan that eventually passed the House.
So that was the that was the most important aspect to it.
And you know, there's a reason why Ted Cruz, as long as the crew's amendment was included, because that was going to be driving down premiums.
So there was an immediate positive impact, although imperfect.
I'll take imperfect.
I'm not look, I understand you got varying factions within every party.
It's not which if I Sean Hannity had his way, I'd repeal the whole thing today, and then I'd immediately write up a bill that created more cooperatives like in Wichita, Kansas, and more opportunities for health savings accounts, and more competition than we've ever seen, And the ability for young people so that they no longer are forced to pay for the the elderly, the sick and the disabled and the uninsured that they would be able to get a plan that works for them, which is in most instances something like a catastrophic plan.
And that's the my only issue with it.
It was it, you know, it had to do with uh um I've had X rays.
I had an X ray in Turkey where it was uh cost me thirty five dollars to get an X-ray and blood work done there, and I had no insurance over there.
Come back here and how much does it cost here?
It's okay, but if you let's say you lived in Wichita and you were part of Atlas MD, okay, that would be free.
Your medicines would be free.
You'd pay fifty dollars a month for unlimited care.
Then you you bolster your your cooperative plan with a catastrophic plan if you have a heart attack or get cancer or you have a bad accident.
That's the perfect scenario because catastrophic care is relatively inexpensive depending on how high your deductible is.
Let's say you have a a ten thousand dollar deductible, which is a lot of money, but if you're able to afford it, the worst case scenario, you have a bad accident.
Okay, you pay ten grand out of pocket, the bill is three hundred, four hundred thousand dollars, and all of it's paid for from there.
And that is that insurance is very inexpensive.
Maybe if we replace the politicians with those types of doctors we could come to the type of agreement.
Justin, I I mean, uh do you put poor Josh Umber.
How many times, Linda, did we send him to Washington or did he get invited to Washington and meet with Tom Price, the Health and Human Services Secretary, Congressman and Senators?
I mean, this poor guy, because we we've been putting him on since twenty twelve.
He has had to drag himself to DC to explain it to these idiots, and they still don't get it.
But okay, so I'm a really bad candidate for health insurance.
I've got type one diabetes.
I'm a two times cancer survivor.
Okay.
Yep.
So I am I've been watching this very, very closely.
Of course.
No, no, no.
You're luckily I have a job, so that that helps.
No, but you need a plan that doesn't punish you because you have pre existing conditions, which by the way, of all the plans the Republicans had, they they factored in pre existing conditions.
That in credit to them, that was always factored in.
Mm-hmm.
And and by the way, somebody who has type one diabetes needs that how old are you now?
Um thirty-nine.
Oh my gosh.
How what kind of cancers did you have?
I had testicler and thyroid.
Okay, how many years ago?
Uh seven.
Okay, so you're re you're really past the time.
You're probably in good shape now.
If you just manage your weight, manage your blood sugar, and you should be okay.
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Uh Joe is in Long Island, New York, my hometown.
What's up, Joe?
How are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Hey, Sean, how are you doing?
How you doing.
You know, you were talking about having people take care of you when you get older.
I don't know.
Like if I know I'm gonna die if I have three months and I'm gonna be incapacitated, I don't want my family bathing me and cleaning me.
Yeah, I've I've been that way with my my own in laws and my my uh my uncle and stuff.
We would love to take care of them, but when I get older, I don't want the kids taking care of me like that.
It's not right.
So I'm totally agreeable with you.
You know, I'm all I'm saying is if I know it's over, I want to say goodbye in the right way.
I want my I want my family to remember me as I was most of my life, and I don't want to burden them that way.
And I want to say goodbye when I'm when I'm conscious and aware and not in pain and not needing to get bathed by my children.
That's that I I know m and somebody everyone's calling some people call me selfish.
I'm not trying to be selfish.
I'm trying to be selfless.
Trying to let them go on with their lives.
I've had a great life.
I don't I I have no regrets.
Sean, you know what?
I think you might have a little bit of a difference of opinion on this one individual.
Do you know why?
Why?
Because Joe is actually Ethan's father in law.
So maybe Ethan should take care of him.
Well, that does have perspective.
Uh sorry I had to blow up your spot, Joe.
Sorry.
So why didn't you tell me why didn't anyone tell everyone's sneaky in there?
You know that?
So much more fun this way.
It's the element of surprise.
No, no, no.
In your in your case, you're in your case, Ethan needs to suck it up and take care of you.
See, see, there's exceptions.
Uh listen, I'd like to remember me the way I am.
Just not.
Well, how about this?
When you're debilitated and stuff, I want to be out of here.
I know your daughter, Annie will never let you go through with this idea.
She's gonna take it off.
Oh, you did not say that on air.
Oh my god.
I gotta Hey, Joe, who got the better of the deal?
Ethan or Annie, who got the better end of that deal.
I got the better end of the deal.
I didn't ask you.
Did I put to ask you to put your mic?
He gets newly married.
He better jump in.
Joe, who do you think got the better end of the deal?
Oh God, no.
You're dead.
Your daughter's not gonna she's not gonna bathe you.
You're done.
You're gonna be able to do that.
She might bring a hose in and squirt you, but that's about it.
I don't know.
I think they're they're a perfect fit.
You know, I would have gone to the wedding if you didn't put a four thousand miles out in Montauk.
Why did you put it all the way out there?
I didn't do it.
It was up to my daughter.
Yeah, well, don't you take orders from your daughter now, seriously?
Who's it?
Don't you, Sean?
Don't you, Sean?
Don't even try it.
You don't take letters from your daughter?
Of course I do.
I I got a boat in my backyard that I didn't want.
Speaking of that boat, if you want to get rid of it, you know.
No, no, no.
Well, I got rid of the the I bought a big boat ten years ago, never used it because it had two engines, nobody could drive it.
Now it's a little baby boat with one engine.
That's it.
Little, you know, go tubing boat.
All right, Joe.
Thank you, my friend.
God bless you, okay?
And live a long time.
This way we don't have to worry about that, all right?
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Do we represent prosperity, economic growth, higher take home pay, more jobs, or not?
Uh Trump, you said you just had him uh the president a minute ago talking about what he wants to do to make America great again.
Uh I think that he's in the right general direction.
I I personally believe they ought to do as much as they can on health care right now, but they shouldn't spend the whole rest of this year on one issue.
They have also got to pass, I think, by Thanksgiving and get signed into law by Thanksgiving, a very large tax cut, uh retroactively designed back to January one to make sure that we have enough economic growth in 2018 that Republicans can run as the party of prosperity of jobs of higher take-home pay and of economic growth.
And I would I would say the highest focus ought to be on getting the tax bill through because if we don't have economic growth next year, I think we're in real danger of having Speaker Nancy Pelosi in 2019.
If we do get enough economic growth, I think frankly we'll probably get reelected.
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That was the former speaker of the House, New Kingrich, on my television show last night, and he's absolutely right.
He actually was talking about not only the middle class tax cuts that the president ran on, not only the corporate tax cuts he ran on, he wants about 15%, not the repatriation of multinational corporations.
We also factored in the millions of high-paying energy job energy jobs, career jobs that would be created as America moves towards energy independence.
But one of the key obstacles does become the issue of health care not getting done in the Senate because they're counting on about a trillion dollars in savings as part of their overall economic planning.
Anyway, here to get into this and much more is the House Budget Committee chairwoman, Diane Black, she's from Tennessee.
It's great to have you back.
How um all right, so how important is that trillion in savings, first of all?
Well, it is important because it will give us an opportunity to bring those rates down a whole lot more if we're not having to make that up in the baseline.
So I want the Senate to get their work done, get us a bill back over here so that we can conference and uh get that off of our agenda.
Listen, we've campaigned on this for ever since I've been up here for the last seven years.
Let's fix it and move on.
You know, I I I am so frustrated, as are so many of my conservative brethren, because twenty ten was about well, give us the house, we'll repeal replace Obamacare.
Give us the Senate in twenty fourteen, we'll we'll get it done then when we have both houses.
Give g then they did in twenty fifteen, to their credit, they sent a repeal bill over.
Give us the House, Senate, the President.
Well, definitely get this done.
Now it's we need more senators.
We don't have enough senators.
Some senators don't like what we're gonna do.
And do you understand the frustration of conservatives like myself?
I'm like, you lock yourself in a room, roll up your sleeves and get your job done.
Well, I understand it more than just understanding it.
I am with you.
I am on board with you.
I I know having been in the minority in the um in the General Assembly back in the state of Tennessee that when We did finally get the majority, you have to learn how to govern.
Um it's not just vote no and be mad all the time.
It's a matter of bringing policy to the table.
We have good policy out there and let's just stop worrying about getting everything exactly the way you want it as an individual, and let's let's get something done.
You know, Reagan said, Give me fifty percent, I'll come back and get the other half of that loop of the bread at another time.
And we have got to move forward.
The American people want us to get our job done, and we need to do it.
Okay.
Now let's go to the President's economic plan.
One of the things the former speaker said last night, which I really liked and I hadn't thought about it is uh are you a are you a confident that it's gonna be the president's plan?
Because here's what happened with health care congresswoman, and it really ticked me off and it happened in the House and Senate.
You know, it wasn't a consensus bill in the House.
You had a but y nobody knew what was in the bill to they released the bill and said this is our bill.
And it was uh extraordinarily frustrating that that's how the leadership handled it, and it ended up making that job fifty times harder than it otherwise needed it to be.
They did the same thing in the Senate.
Is everybody gonna have a chance to see the economic plan and how closely will that economic plan or the budget proposal match up to the president's promises on the campaign trail?
Uh so are you talking about the budget or are you talking about?
I'm talking about the the budget proposal because uh look, I want to I want to get to a balanced budget, but I understand that we also have to have these tax cuts to stimulate the economy.
Sure.
That the president's you know, are we are we gonna get a middle class tax cut of fifteen percent corporate rate or somewhere near that?
Are we gonna get repatriation from multinational corporations?
Let's start there.
Yeah.
So first of all, let's just start at what it takes to um even get there, and that is passing a budget.
And that's my role and my job as the chairman is to get a budget out of the committee, and I intend on doing that tomorrow.
We will be marking up tomorrow because that is our vehicle to tax reform.
Without a budget resolution, uh you can't do reconciliation and um and not have the the the Senate uh have to have cloture with sixty votes.
And so it is very important that we get a budget off the floor, but we feel that it's also important to do a budget that is a responsible budget.
And so in our budget, not only are we concerned about tax reform, we're also concerned about deficit reduction.
So we do have a provision in there to start cutting uh mandatory spending, two hundred billion dollars.
Look, it's not as much as I'd like.
It's one penny out of every dollar, considering all of our mandatory spending, which is two thirds of our budget.
Why can't we take a penny out of every dollar, even even mandatory spending?
Well, uh you you can and you could do across the board cuts, but then you also cut good programs.
So what we want to do, we've worked with the authorizers in eleven different committees.
But a penny is not a lot, and a penny, you know, when you consider that we have twenty trillion dollars in debt we're dumping on our kids and grandkids, it doesn't seem like that much.
Well, it isn't as much as I'd like it to be, but it is a start, and to have eleven authorizers who have agreed with their um each one of their areas and what they're going to be cutting will be a start.
We have not done this since nineteen the n 1990s, and it begins to change the culture here.
And and reconciliation was always supposed to be for deficit reduction.
Now, uh granted, we'll use it for tax reform as well, but we can walk and chew gum, we can do tax reform, and we can also do deficit reduction.
Both of these are very important to the American people.
And by the way, we've been talking about them for at least the six years that I've been up here now, seven years.
And so our budget has both of those provisions in it.
And uh, let me ask this.
How impacted will this budget proposal of yours that includes I know you're increasing defense spending and yeah, uh nonmandatory spending, you're gonna take it a penny out of every dollar.
You supposedly have a ten-year path to balancing and reconciliation instructions for tax reform and savings, et cetera, et cetera.
I I get all that.
But if you don't get the trillion dollars from the health care savings, how much does that impact the bill?
Well, we're gonna leave that up to the Senate to pass it before we start doing that.
But I talked to Chairman Brady today to say if they do not pass their bill, of course Chairman Brady is uh ways and means the means.
And uh he said, look, we're working on what we what we have to do and what w what difference that will make in our numbers.
So I can't answer that question specifically for you at this point in time, but there are some alternative plans out there and we'll be getting you that information as soon as uh as soon as Chairman Brady gives us some information that we can share with you.
Can I just ask one thing?
I've been talking on this program about the penny plan for years.
One penny out of every dollar government spends one penny every year for seven years balances the budget.
Do you agree with that?
I do, and I'm not discounting the fact that if we did that, that might uh or that would get us to where we need to go.
But I'm also someone who really believes that what we really need to be doing as responsible legislators is looking at these programs and the authorizers should be looking at every program that's in their jurisdiction and saying, is it working?
Do we need to reform it?
If if let's say Medicare has been around since 1965, is it working?
Do we need to reform it?
Every program should be looked at and re-authorized.
I like that too, and and I'm not saying that you have to have such rigidity, but overall, if the the net total amount represents one penny out of every dollar, then we're we're we're doing something.
Absolutely we are, especially when we're spending over three trillion dollars every year.
One penny out of every one of those dollars does make a difference.
Yeah.
So all right.
Well, I appreciate everything you're doing.
I I hope you get this plan done.
I hope the the Senate gets their job done.
I'm beyond I'm beyond frustrated, and I'm not the only one.
And I agree with you, and I'm right there with you, I'm beyond frustrated too.
So the first Yeah, but you're a lot nicer in expressing your frustration than I am about mine.
I use words that you would never use.
I promise you.
Oh my goodness.
Well, I'm a lady, and so I I'm you're nice.
I'm not I'm uh I'm I'm taking all the blame.
I'm I'm I'm livid and furious.
I'm mad.
Well, I'm gonna get my budget out of committee and then we're gonna get it on the floor.
And it is coming out of committee tomorrow, and I'm proud of that and uh all the work that's been done by all the members of our committee.
All right, would you please just try and push for every dollar they spend a penny?
Will you do that for me?
Just if that's one little favor I'm asking.
I don't ask a lot.
No, that's not a lot.
You know, one penny is not a lot.
It's not.
I'm I'm being very reasonable.
All right, thank you, Congressman.
Have a good day.
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And he's out.
He's been doing some really good work exposing Hillary Clinton.
Here he exposes how Hillary sided with Russia and Bill got an extra five hundred thousand dollars, twice his speaking fee, and then we have Democrats, you know, repeating the phony claims.
Fusion GPS, the Christopher Steele, former MI6 agent, Great Britain, dossier, you know, the hookers in Russia and the Ritz Carlton urinating.
You know, I can't overemphasize it would be difficult to overstate the nature of uh uh the the conflict of Hillary Clinton, her husband getting a half a million dollars directly from the Russians while she was Secretary of State.
Uh we were astonished when we saw that the State Department, we've got the document, approved this ethics uh process that allowed this uh speech and the money evidently to take place the money transfer to take place.
So why would the Clinton State Department allow Hillary Clinton's husband to get a half million dollars from the Russian connected entity Renaissance Capitol?
I don't understand.
Imagine, for instance, if the uh spouse of Rex Tillerson or the spouse of any other cabinet official got a half a million dollars from a foreign government while that official was in office, and then this same official like Hillary Clinton was was advocating on behalf of Russian interest, not only uranium one, she didn't oppose uranium one, which saw the Russians get twenty percent of our uranium off operations, but then pushed hard for the Russians against the sanctions.
Do you believe anything about that dossier?
Oh, I think it should be uh taken a look at.
I think they should really read it, understand it, analyze it, and determine what's fact, what may not be fact.
We already know that the part about uh the coverage that they have on him uh with sex actions uh is supposed to be true.
Uh they've said that that's absolutely true.
Uh I want to take a moment to turn to the Christopher Steele dossier, which was first mentioned in the media just before the election and published in full by Media Outlets in January.
My focus today is to explore how many claims within Steele's dossier are looking more and more likely as though they are accurate.
Well, the dossier definitely seems right on these points.
A quid pro quote relationship seems to exist between the Trump campaign and Putin's Russia.
There's a lot in the dossier that is yet to be proven, but increasingly, as we'll hear throughout the day, allegations are checking out.
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All right, my big big time AJ Houston, Texas.
What's going on, baby?
How are you?
Big time.
Hey, big daddy.
Hey, you know what?
Instead of sending pizza in the room, why won't we fit some common fifth in the room with the weak Republicans?
We got to know that we are pissed out here for what they've done, have not done, I should I say.
And what I mean, what back to what they did in 2015.
Why did they scare that big time, sir?
I mean, wait, let me get this right.
The Democrats out here bashing Trump was saying, well, we're gonna let it do it.
And guess what, uh, Democrats.
I hope y'all listen.
We're gonna blame you, Democrats, because Republicans gave us this crap after y'all destroyed what we had, and we might be there.
Oh, massive emergency.
Oh, come on, you know, uh, uh, you got to read wait a minute.
We had good coverage.
All y'all had to do was leave our stuff alone, and now you're here want to blame others or y'all bad by the state.
Last day mad.
And I'm gonna tell you something.
We American people are the real American people.
We all remember this.
And I heard these Republicans remember it.
I'm hearing this show and your shows and everything that's going on.
When are we going to grow some co-goonies, big time, Sean?
That's what I like to do.
When are they gonna run it?
We say they say the same thing over and over again.
Oh, we hear, go, come.
What they can't do.
You got the house, you got the city, you got the white house.
Come on and grow some.
Uh, wait a minute.
Uh calm down.
Um I'm sorry.
No, no, no.
We have a right to be angry.
We have a right to be mad.
They failed us.
We didn't fail them.
They've had plenty of time now.
I'm sick of their excuses.
I'm tired of them.
And so are the American people.
And it's time to get their act together and get their job done.
That's what it's time for them to do.
It's time for them to go to work instead of taking vacations.
All right, big time AJ.
Love you.
You're the best.
Uh Joe in LJ in Georgia.
I've known Joe.
He's been calling my program since 1992.
How are you, Big Joe?
Sean, you're great.
You're the best taxpayer champion in the country.
Sean, I am, you know, my Mitch McConnell's been up there in Washington since 1986.
I'm sure he's a fine man, but I think it's time for him to go.
Part of being a leader is you bring people together and get them to get them to accomplish the health care reform, the tax reform, and he's not done it.
So I think we need some more some new leaders in the Senate, and maybe even in the House, but certainly in the Senate.
I think McCollum's been there long enough.
What do you think?
I think it's time to get the job done or go.
Get the job done or leave and get somebody in place that can get the job done.
That's what I say.
It's not any more complicated than that.
All right, big time Joe and LJ, thank you, sir.
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Let's go back to earlier today, and the president responding to the inability of the Republicans in the Senate to repeal, replace health care.
It now seems like plan C is failing as well.
Is now three Republicans at least have come out against just repealing the measure.
Anyway, here's uh here's what the president had to say.
We've had a lot of victories, but we haven't had a victory on health care.
We're disappointed.
I am very disappointed because again, even as a civilian, for seven years I've been hearing about health care, and I've been hearing about uh repeal and replace, and Obamacare is a total disaster.
Some states had over a 200% increase, a 200% increase in their premiums, and their deductibles are through the roof.
It's an absolute disaster.
And I think you'll also uh agree that I've been saying for a long time, let Obamacare fail, and then everybody's going to have to come together and fix it and uh come up with a new plan and a plan that's really good for the people with much lower premiums, l much lower cost, and much better protection.
I've been saying that, Mike, I think you'll agree for a long time.
Let Obamacare fail.
It'll be a lot easier.
And I think we're probably in that position where we'll just let Obamacare fail.
Uh we're not gonna own it.
I'm not gonna own it.
I can tell you the Republicans are not gonna own it.
We'll let Obamacare fail, and then the Democrats are gonna come to us and they're gonna say, How do we fix it?
How do we fix it?
Or how do we come up with a new plan?
So we'll see what happens.
There's some other things going on right now as we speak.
But I am disappointed because for so many years I've been hearing repeal and replace.
I'm sitting in the Oval Office right next door, pen in hand, waiting to sign something, and I'll be waiting, and eventually we're going to get something done, and it's going to be very good.
But Obamacare is a big failure, and it has to be changed.
We have to go to a plan that works.
We have to go to a much less expensive plan in terms of premiums.
And something will happen and it'll be very good.
May not be as quick as we had hoped, but it's going to happen.
Well, they were not disloyal.
They had their own reasons.
I was very surprised when the two folks came out last night because we thought they were in fairly good shape, but uh they did.
And you know, everybody has their own reason.
But if you really think about it, you look at it, and we have 52 people.
We had no Democrat support, which is really, you know, something that should be said.
We should have had Democrats voted.
This is a great plan for a lot of people.
Uh we had no Democrat support.
We have 52 people, we had four no's.
Now we might have had another one somewhere in there, but essentially the vote would have been pretty close to if you look at it, 48 to 4.
Uh that's a pretty impressive vote by any standard.
And yet you have a vote of 48 to 4 or something like that, and you need more, it's pretty tough.
So the way I look at it is in 18, we're gonna have to get some more people elected.
We have to go out and we have to get more people elected than a Republican.
And we have to probably pull in those people, those few people that voted against it.
I don't know, they're gonna have to explain to you why they did, and I'm sure they'll have very fine reasons.
But I think we're gonna do very well actually in 18.
I would be not surprised if something were done long before that.
But in any event, because the margin is so small, the majority margin is so small, we're gonna have to go out and get more Republicans elected in 18, and I'll be working very hard for that to happen, okay.
And it would be nice to have Democrat support, but really they're obstructionists, they have no ideas, they have no thought process, all they want to do is obstruct government and obstruct, period.
And in this case, think of it uh so many good things.
We didn't get one vote, and their plan has failed.
And by the way, Obamacare isn't failing, it's failed, it's gone.
So uh I think something's gonna happen.
We'll find out.
Stay tuned.
So the president very clearly just laying out facts here, and that is that Republicans didn't get the job done.
Okay, he's not responsible for Obamacare, and that means the ever-increasing premiums, the ever-increasing lack of care, the ever increasing losing doctors and losing your plans will just continue, and it will collapse of its own weight.
And if Republicans can't get their act together, and I'm suggesting something that nobody else seems to be suggesting.
Look, these people need to get to work.
This is now what?
What's today's day?
The 18th of July.
They have had since January 20th.
Pat Toomey's saying, Well, we didn't know that the president was gonna win.
This took us all by shock.
We weren't expecting this.
All right, you've now had time to absorb the shock, Senator.
And I really don't think there's any excuse.
I don't think there's any whatsoever.
Well, we only have 52 senators.
Well, we only have the House.
Well, we only have the House and the Senate.
We don't have the White House.
Now we have the House, the Senate, and the White House, we don't have enough senators.
American people don't want to hear it.
They just don't.
So if you guys want to save your jobs and save your future and do what's right for the American people, stop taking your vacations, and I don't mean just a two-week, you know, delay.
You haven't gotten the job done, so I suggest you get a room.
I suggest a room big enough for all 52 of you.
Yeah, 51 until Senator McCain gets back to Washington.
And I suggest that you stock it with water and pretzels and potato chips, tax you know, well, we'll will the taxpayers will bear the burden of the cost of it.
I'll pay for it myself if you stay in there and order some pizza, subway sandwiches.
I know it's not quite the Senate dining room, and lock the door, take everybody's phone so they don't sit there texting and leaking everything that's going on the entire time.
And don't leave the room until you finish the job.
Stay in there and do your job.
And find a way to thread the needle and bring people together.
And put as The I I put on a chalkboard that I bring in there.
Serve the American people.
Keep your promises and put those words up there.
They're words to live by.
You know, either fulfill your promises or politically say goodbye.
And if you can't get the job done, if McConnell can't pull it off, well then McConnell should step aside.
And then we should bring in a new leader, and the new leader should do the same thing.
Close the door, keep everybody in session, keep everybody in there, lock it, take everybody's phone, and stay in there till he comes up with a solution or she comes up with a solution.
They can't get the job done, then we'll go to another leader and stay in there till you I don't care if you're rotten there with old pizza and French fries and quarter pounders with cheese, and I'll even throw in some coarse light, but get your job done.
It's not quite the Senate dining room and not quite the scotch and the brandy cigars that everybody's so used to.
But maybe that'll motivate you people.
Maybe turn the air conditioner off, make you all sweat.
All right, let's get to our busy telephones.
Patricia is in Montgomery, Texas.
Patricia, hi, how are you?
And we're glad you called.
Oh, thanks for thanks for having me on.
Uh I just want to tell you that I am livid with these senators, and I'm going to find out who these people are and make sure they don't ever get elected back into office again if they can't get it get it together.
And um, I mean, the least they could do is repeal this thing.
And um I don't know, they're just making us look like a bunch of people.
Listen, I said earlier today repeal is fine with I'm fine with repeal.
I'm fine with the transition.
I'm just not fine with a transition that ends up being billions and trillions of dollars in new spending.
That I'm not fine with.
That is not going to solve the problem.
That's the type of thing that we don't need.
Well, I thought that that plan you had with that doctor sounded fantastic.
Well that did anything ever goes.
Well, the repeat well, the repeat here's the interesting part of it.
And I'm I've been talking to Dr. Josh Umber since 2012.
I didn't even know I've been talking to him that long.
It's five years I've known this guy.
I have been pushing my entire career for health savings accounts.
A great book by the Cato Institute called Patient Powder.
Musgrave and Goodman are the names of the people that wrote it.
And I've been pushing for that for years.
But I'll be honest, I think I'm more sold on the cooperative idea because what Dr. Umber's plan and model creates is concierge care for the average men for the men and women in this country.
Not this is the type of care that rich people get because rich people, even if they have insurance, will pay doctors more money for more services.
And that means if somebody's sick at three in the morning, okay, they have a deal with the doctor, the doctors come over their house.
With this particular case in Wichita, fifty bucks a month, you get the same care, unlimited service, unlimited care, unlimited treatments.
I mean, the only thing it doesn't cover is a a really bad accident or a heart attack, or God forbid you get cancer, but that's what catastrophic insurance is about by repealing Obamacare, well then you get to buy catastrophic insurance.
By repealing Obamacare, you would allow cooperatives like this now to become a brand new paradigm.
You'd allow health savings accounts to flourish.
You know, if you just put in a one provision on that.
So that this is not hard to do.
And the fact that they can't get their act together is is it's it's everything I've been saying.
It's typical, it's predictable.
And what you have now are democratic, more moderate governors salivating at the idea that Republicans can't accomplish a thing.
And if they don't get it done, then they're gonna pay the price politically.
And I can't say that I really care all that much.
Because if they don't do their job, who's gonna you know, what why did we elect you people?
What to tell us you can't you can't figure it out?
I'm not expecting what I want.
I already sucked it up with the stupid house bill that I didn't particularly love.
But it's infinitely better than the failure that's going on now.
Anyway, I don't mean to rant Patricia, but you're right.
Well, one somebody had a really good idea yesterday.
I remember where I saw it on TV or something, but they had doctors calling in saying, hey, why don't we do this and why don't we do that?
And somebody had this really good idea about uh starting a website where you kind of consolidate all your ideas.
I mean, I don't know why these senators hadn't done something like that where they they all throw in their ideas and make something happen.
Linda, how many meetings has Dr. Umber gone to Washington to attend as a result of him being on our show, including with the Health and Human Services Secretary?
I would say he's had at least between 10 and 15 meetings on the Hill.
Yeah, I mean I've ruined this guy's life, Patricia.
I mean, I really did.
I mean, he's paying for this out of his own pocket to try and help these idiots get their job done.
And and I just know a good idea when I hear it.
And it's a good idea.
Fifty bucks a month.
Anybody can afford if you work, you can afford 50 bucks a month for unlimited health care.
Unlimited.
And pharmaceuticals, every pharmaceutical, 98% off.
It's ridiculous that it this is not duplicated everywhere.
It's common sense healthcare.
Anyway, thank you for the call.
I appreciate it.
Uh Heather is in Greenville in North Carolina next on the Sean Hannity Show.
Heather, hi, how are you?
And welcome to the program.
I'm good.
Actually, I just wanted to call.
I heard you um last week and earlier this week talking about dying alone, and I absolutely disagree with you.
Oh boy, we're back.
You know, this is apparently uh my opinion.
I didn't know that Linda put up a poll on it, but 80% of people agree with me.
Now I want to be clear.
Somebody said, You mean you're gonna go kill yourself?
I think no, no, no, no, no.
I don't want to be selfish, and I don't want my family, if if I know that in three months, you know what it's like.
If three months they say you're done.
You're and what are the odds you're gonna ever recover?
None.
If I hear that, if I'm getting to a point that I think I'd be a burden to my family and not able to take care of myself, I would choose to go to to not have my family spend the rest of their life cleaning me up and and taking care of my every need.
And I'd rather them remember me as I was.
And I don't think it's selfish.
I'm trying to be selfless here.
And I understand that, and I I actually can totally understand where you're coming from and respect that desire.
But I I'm 33 years old.
My father actually passed away last year, and he was sick for many years prior to that.
You know, we weren't given a exact you know number of days or months.
But you knew he was you know it wasn't well.
But we knew it wasn't well, and and two of those years he was bedridden, and you know, we had some uh home help, but that's really expensive, and it just wasn't feasible to have it all the time.
And so I am an only child, and I ended up being the one who, you know, bathed him often, and my mother had some uh disabilities as well, and so I bathed him and cleaned him and said, you know, a lot of these things, and he was a very proud, you know, and a provider, and he didn't want to be a burden either, but I think at the end of the day, he wanted to be with his family, and I'm glad that he gave me that chance.
He got to spend time with my daughter and got to you know see my son.
You're making the about six months.
You're making the best argument I think anybody anybody could make, and that is that I'm glad he gave me that chance to love him back because parents do everything for the kids.
I I'm I I don't know what it is.
For me, you know, I remember my grandfather, and to see this man incapacitated after he had a stroke, and it was just and I I didn't mind taking care of him.
I really didn't.
I mean, I used to love sneaking him a shot of whiskey every day.
And he'd be very thankful.
Um but I'm just saying for me, it's there.
I just prefer at that point.
I just rather say, all right, have a big party, say my goodbyes, and they'll, you know, when that they'll hear when I die, and I just want to go off alone and not and then let them remember me as my I was.
That's it, how I mostly was in my life.
Because sometimes that can linger on for months and months and months and months.
It's such a burden on people.
And I uh but I wouldn't want anyone to do it to me.
Uh so there's a little hypocrisy on my part.
I agree with that.
Anyway, thank you for a good call and a compassionate call.
I'm sorry about your dad.
It's it's tough when you lose a loved one.
It really is.
All right, quick break.
We'll come back.
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