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It's Friday.
We'll get a lot of calls in the course of today's uh program and extravaganza.
A lot to get to.
Obviously, I got a lot to say about Robert Mueller and his appointment as the general counsel investigating.
This is a whole new level.
And I think the administration better understand something, and I'm going to explain that in a second.
Um we're going to get into some of the other issues of the day that we've kind of been ignoring because of all the the news.
I'm going to explain everything that's happening with the media, especially the the five groups that want to take down the president, which is probably where we're going to start here in a second.
You know, I um here's what's happening.
There's now a cycle, and it really came out in all of its ugliness this week, and as much as, you know, in the last week and a half and two weeks, it's just been non-stop.
And what the cycle is is this.
That you get either the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, whatever liberal media group that it happens to be, and they come out and then they drop their big bomb.
Anonymous source, people outside of the White House say he revealed secrets to the Russians.
And out people outside the White House how would people outside the White House, why would we take their word over people that were in the meeting in the White House with the president that are telling you factually what they heard and saw and it didn't happen.
But the media, what they do is they'll take it, they drop their bomb headline, they go for the cheap headline, and then boom, it explodes.
Usually late in the day, we call it a late day drop.
And then after the late day drop, then you get on a nightly newscast, breathless reporting, and then hysterical reporting, and then only to find out later that, oh, sorry, that was maybe maybe the guy inside the room is actually the one that's probably telling the truth.
They don't pull it back, they don't apologize, they don't try to make good on any of these things.
They just don't.
And it's been one after another after another after another after another.
And that's why I've identified, you know, the greatest threat now to this president.
This there is a threat.
These people want to destroy President Trump.
The deep state doesn't like him.
They don't think they can control him.
They are part of the swamp.
And, you know, James Comey, what he did this week is beyond the pale.
And the New York Times, beyond I sent myself a memo after meeting with the president.
Okay, what did you send you?
What did you send yourself in that memo that was so important that we can't believe that?
Oh my God, did he try to obstruct justice?
Is is that what they're saying?
Did he try to obstruct justice?
The president of the United States of America?
Linda, what was the date we got it?
That was in January January 27th.
January 27th.
Now, do we have the tape of Comey from May?
And James Comey said nobody ever tried to obstruct justice?
Because he says in his own words, he actually goes on.
It would be a big deal if somebody tried to get me to stop an investigation.
So if the Attorney General or senior officials at the Department of Justice opposes a specific investigation, can they halt that FBI investigation?
In theory, yes.
Not in my experience.
Because it would be a big deal to tell the FBI to stop doing something that without an appropriate purpose.
I mean we're oftentimes they give us opinions that we don't see a case there, and so you ought to stop investing resources in it.
But I'm talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason.
That would be a very big deal.
It's not happened in my experience.
It's not happened after the memo.
Then why is this even a headline?
Trump tried to convince him to stop.
Now, there's another problem Comey has.
And you think of the breathlessness of the reporting and the word impeachment this week came out over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
I can play it all.
We played it for you earlier in the week.
You know, we've got a new introduction.
We do it on TV, and now we're starting it on radio, and we're calling it our fake news roundup.
Listen to the introduction that we made because this is part of what I'm calling the cycle.
You gotta understand, if all these other countries can be propagandized, you know, I I've been fascinated over the years about groupthink and brainwashing and hypnotic, yes, we can, Obama.
It was sort of like nobody thought for themselves, and we're like here on an island trying to expose Frank Marshall Davis and the Alinsky disciple and the acorn activists and and hanging out, you know, uh in the church of GD America, uh, and he is like family to me, Reverend Wright, but I didn't know what this guy was thinking, and heirs and Doran, the unrepentant terrorists, and and who made up the core of who Obama was.
Now we ended up being vindicated, but the rest of the country was in a trance.
I spend hours, I don't know why, I'm fascinated for hours I spend watching the American Hero Channel and watching the History Channel and trying to understand evil.
You know, how I it's very, very hard for good people to comprehend evil.
It really is.
And that a hundred million human souls were destroyed and murdered in the last century alone.
The gulags, Russia, Stalin, Killingfields, Cambodia, uh, communism, fascism, Nazism.
And I watched these videos and I and you see the pictures of the people in the crowd, and they do their their sick, twisted evil Nazi salute, and you're saying, what's wrong with these people?
Wake up.
How can you do it?
Or you watch, you know, we saw during the Iranian revolution when the Ayatollah Homey took over power from the Shah of Iran and all the people, they would beat themselves in their face until they bled this just they wanted to prove that they themselves were the most loyal.
You know, how does somebody I wrote this in my book, Deliver Us from Evil?
How does somebody go to work every day and their job is to take fellow human beings off a train, uh, make them feel like they're gonna be well taken care of?
How many of you had nurses, doctors, carpenters, plumbers, oh good, we've got work for you.
Make you take your clothes off, think you're taking a shower, and then kill you.
How do you go home to eat at night when you slaughtered your fellow human beings?
There is evil.
Evil at a very high level.
And there is groupthink at a very high level.
Now I'm not comparing Obama supporters to, you know, I I am saying they're different degrees of indoctrination.
And human beings have this incredible desire to be accepted.
They want to be accepted, and they want to be in the group.
And I see this among journalists on Twitter.
They just, okay, I'll tweet you if you tweet me.
They all want to be like, they all want to be accepted.
I see this among weak Republicans.
They want to be liked, they want to be accepted.
They want Democrats to respect them.
Probably the most guilty of this now is John McCain.
He just wants to be like, wants Democrats to like him.
Prevented him, you know, from even putting up a fight for the presidency.
There is a certain unquestioning behavior among partisans, by the way, right and left.
I only use Obama because those, yes, we can.
Obama.
Now it's not the same as the Ayatollah Homeini or or or radical Islamists or anything like that.
But it's a different level.
It's the same thing.
If you're not questioning, if you're not asking questions, you know, it's it's you know, go back to what I'm saying here about the news media or James Comey.
James Comey comes out, blaring headline, New York Times, you know, that Trump tried to get him to obstruct justice that he said to lay off Comey, hope you lay off Comey, media headline, feeding frenzy, anonymous sources, and then we find out much later, oh, he said, wait a minute, in May, that nobody ever tried to do it, and if they did try, it would have been a big deal.
And this happened in January, and then we discovered, it takes us a day.
We discovered that, you know, if he was so concerned about the dinner with Trump trying to get Michael Flynn off the hook, well, then he had a legal obligation, and I would assume the FBI director knows the law, 18 U.S. Code 4 or 28 U.S. Code 1361, that he could have broken and committed two felonies by not going to the Justice Department and giving them the information.
So that's dead.
Just like, you know, we discovered today, my buddy Rowan Scarborough is just a terrific, terrific human being, national security reporter for the Washington Times, and you know, they tweeted out in the Washington Times today, Comey didn't ask for more money, the interim FBI director.
Remember, we heard after Comey was fired, well, that's just because he asked for more money for the Russia investigation.
That's not true either.
That didn't happen.
And the Washington Post got it wrong again.
They got everything wrong.
You know, what are the other headlines that they got wrong last week?
I can't even remember all the times they've got these things wrong.
You know, but on every big major issue headline and the cycle that they go through, they try to create a whirlwind of feeding frenzy, and they do, and they're getting people hyped up and they're making Americans think that Donald Trump's going to be impeached, and they're creating the notion that it's ungovernable and he can't do his job, and 80% of his time and his staff time is being spent, you know, defending this nonsense.
Just like, for example, when the deputy attorney general, this was the other Washington Post story, he says, you know, they reported, oh, the deputy attorney general said he was going to quit because he was being used as an excuse to fire Comey.
And then he did an interview with a station in D.C. and said, I never threaten to quit.
Doesn't matter, the Washington Post will drop their next bomb without being held accountable from basically lying, false reporting, fake news, call it whatever you want.
And that's the cycle we're in.
You know, I told so many people that you gotta understand something.
The stakes are high for the left.
If Donald Trump is successful, it is the worst thing that can happen for them, especially after eight years of Obama failure.
And I gave you all of those statistics, poverty, food stamps, people out of the labor force, lowest home ownership rate, doubling the national debt.
Donald Trump's successful and we become energy independent, and we have more security with the wall, and we're vetting people that have that come from cultures that contradict our our constitutional republic.
And if he goes forward with education back to the states, and and we actually see dramatic increases in test scores, and especially in inner city America, if the president's success, we're energy independent, and that means that we don't have to worry so much about the free flow of oil at market prices and could keep us out of foreign conflicts in the future.
If the president is successful with an economic plan that creates millions of jobs for Americans and puts the rungs of the ladder back in the ladder so they can climb it again, that that is a an existential threat to everything that represents modern liberalism, redistribution, socialism, big government, nanny state, womb to the tomb, cradle to grave, you know, ideology that has failed over and over again.
And it's the environment that we're living in.
This is now unprecedented in terms of they want to destroy him.
How is it that James Comey says Hillary admits Hillary's committing felonies?
Nothing.
You want a real Russia collusion story?
Just look to the Clinton server scandal.
Wow, 20% of America's uranium going to Vladimir Putin, the foundational material to build nuclear weapons, and the Clinton Foundation is pounded with millions of dollars in donations, and Bill doubles a speaking fee in Moscow.
There's a scandal, Russia scandal.
Nobody wants to pay attention.
How is it that guys like Michael Flynn, and maybe even me, I'm told, have been surveilled and unmasked.
And then in the case of Flynn, the unmasking results in the leaking of intelligence, a felony of violation of the espionage act.
And we have circa.com, circuitnews.com, and Sarah Carter and John Solomon are reporting dramatic increases in the surveillance in this country in the election cycle in 2015 and 16.
Well, do we have an increased national security threat?
I don't think so.
Are we using the guise of national security to spy on Americans and trample on Fourth Amendment constitutional rights?
I think yeah.
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We already got our late afternoon typical predictable weekly, you know, cycle dump of the day here today, both on the Drudge Report.
New York Times, by the way, the Times and the Washington Post, they're dying to they're competing with each other.
Who can bring the president down?
That's what their competition is.
New York Times, Trump told the Russians firing the nutjob Comey eased investigation pressure.
Really?
Okay, let's look at the piece and let's see.
Let's see who the source is in this.
All right, so they got the pictures, and it looks really professional.
And it's the New York Times, all the news that's fit to print.
And President Trump told Russian officials in the Oval this month that firing FBI director Comey had relieved great pressure on him.
According to a document summarizing the meeting.
I just fired the head of the FBI.
He was a crazy real nut job, he said, according to the document, which was read to the New York Times by an American official.
Who's the official?
Who's the deep state?
I mean, really?
That's we get these kind of leaks in the Obama years.
I don't, I think they liked Obama because they can control Obama.
I face great pressure because of this Russian narrative.
You know, it's yeah, I mean, if you're fighting back a lie every single day for month after month after month, and he added, I'm not under investigation.
And, you know, but the question here is what does that mean?
It doesn't mean anything at all, in spite of what the headline is.
And you know what?
James Comey kind of seems schizophrenic.
He's like, he wanted to be the most respected, the most professional, the most this, and then he'd lay out the case, and Hillary should be indicted, and I'm like it, I'm making the the closing arguments in a courtroom and only to get to the end and say, never mind.
He's nuts.
You know, how does he, you know, make such a big deal about, well, I had a memo, and in my memo to myself, I said to myself, well, he asked me, I hope this Flynn thing can go away.
But he didn't think enough of it, because five months later he was testifying under oath, saying it would be a huge deal if somebody tried to get me to stop an investigation.
You know, then of course we discovered there are laws that govern if an FBI director is appealed to an obstruction of justice with taking place, he would have been obligated under the law to go after Russia.
I'm sorry, to go to the Justice Department after Russia.
I'm getting tired.
I can't even keep all of this straight.
Wrote a friend of mine a few minutes ago.
I I keeping this straight all day in my head is like it's a it's it's now becoming a uh a complicated task because there's so many fake news lies out there.
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Well, inside the meeting, the Russians with the with the Russians, we revealed secrets, except the people in the meeting don't say so.
And then, of course, the news media.
Alright, we we actually created something to describe the cycle, or what I'm calling the cycle, which is all right, late day, drop, Washington Post, New York Times.
We got two of them today.
Washington Post right now is Russia probe reaches current White House official people with familiar with the case say.
Listen how they write these things up.
Law enforcement investigation possible coordination between Russia Trump campaign has identified a current White House official as a significant person of interest, showing the probe is reaching into the highest levels of government.
According to people familiar with the matter.
Who are the people?
Are they the same people that told you that the Deputy Attorney General Washington Post threatened to quit?
And you got wrong last week?
The same people that told you that James Comey wanted more money and had asked for more money for the pro before he quit, before he was fired by Trump?
That you got wrong?
Who are these people?
The senior White House advisor.
I mean, it all sounds so ominous.
And then this is the cycle.
They drop their bomb, their late day drop, anonymous sources, people familiar with the matter.
Oh, well, I can be familiar with any matter.
Just tell me what matter you want me to talk about.
I can make up all sorts of crap.
This is the same Washington Post that was wrong about Comey asking for money.
Same Washington Post last week wrong about the deputy attorney general.
Saying that he threatened to quit.
Just wrong.
They both became big bombs, late drop news, and then you go to the media that night.
They do it just before the the nightly newscasts and the big networks.
Just before the cable shows.
And they figure they can control the narrative.
And then they create, then the networks love it.
Because not only that they're the ones more than any, they want to bring the president down.
They want as much collateral damage.
They invested in Obama.
They invested and colluded with Hillary as vis-a-vis wiki leaks, and they just want to take the president down.
They just don't like his agenda.
They supported Hillary.
They supported Obama.
They never vetted Obama.
They never told you the truth about how Obama failed.
And now, whatever the leak is, they're gonna run with it.
Nobody's ever gonna hold them accountable.
And they create hysteria.
And then it results in you tuning into TV at night and hearing this.
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Hi, Wolfger, You're in the situation room.
You think I'm kidding?
Is that true or is that not true?
I listen, I'm laughing because it is so true.
As they say, all good humor is rooted in the truth.
Oh, New York Times, Trump told the Russians to fire, he fired the nutjob comedy and ease the pressure of this ridiculous investigation.
Anyway, it's absolutely insane.
And so how bad is the breathless?
Well, where did I get that uh tape from?
This guy.
You might remember.
Well, is that true or not true?
Yeah, or you know, I mean, you think people aren't suggestible?
You know, look at this poor girl when our candidate lost how hysterical she got.
I cannot believe this is happening.
I'm literally about to kill myself that I'm not a kidding.
You better fix this right now.
I literally am gonna die.
I need an ambulance.
Need an ambulance.
You know what's fascinating in all of this, um, and I'll get into this later in the program today, too.
But you know, so I'm having this discussion with Mark Cuban, and I'm gonna keep it private.
I mean, Mark likes to be aggressive, and I'm like, Mark, I can play the I can drop the same word bombs on you as your job dropping on me.
And I met him, I actually like him.
I think he's a great guy, and I know he doesn't like Trump.
That's his business.
That's I'm fine with that.
And I don't care what he does and what he says.
I don't care what his political views are.
We live in a great free country, at least for now, unless our Fourth Amendment rights are squashed.
Here's a fascinating thing to me.
He's not happy with me covering the Seth Rich issue.
And I'm like, uh, Mark, you gotta understand something here.
This is deep and this is profound.
Um, and what's happening why this is important is why for he was killed on June the 12th.
Twelve days later, WikiLeaks dropped their DNC email bomb, which ended with Debbie Wasam and Schultz getting fired, and other people getting fired, and it exposed collusion at the highest levels of the Democratic Party that they colluded to defeat Bernie Sanders.
Bernie had no shot.
He had the superdelegates into the mix.
It was full-on DNC hat aside, and it was Hillary.
And why this is important is why, well, number one, the narrative has always been that the collusion that Vladimir Putin and the Trump campaign, you know, colluded to dump these things to defeat Hillary Clinton.
Now it's this investigation has gone on nearly a year, and there's no there, and there's no evidence there, and now we got a special counsel, which by the way creates a huge danger for the president in this sense.
You know, they special counsel wants to always justify its existence.
I don't know Mueller.
I don't know where he's headed.
I guess anybody that had any contact with Trump.
By the way, if you guys want to contact me, number one, I'm a journalist.
Number two, I refuse to answer any questions.
It's a sad state of affairs.
Think about this in America.
One of my good best friends in the world, his best buddy is an FBI guy that I've gotten to know.
And I've talked to him and I've talked to other FBI guys, and we talked about different cases that have come up over time.
And I'm like, look at the Denny Haster case.
You know, Denny Haster probably did all these horrible things with paying this guy off, all that stuff.
All right, so fine.
I said, but that's not what he got in trouble for.
Got in trouble for lying to the FBI.
And I say, well, I mean, I love the FBI.
The FBI comes to my house.
Aren't you gonna want to help your friends in the FBI?
Not gonna tell you what he said.
Well, I won't tell you fully.
He just said, You never talk to the FBI.
He goes, because the second you're not consistent with what you said before, they're just looking to screw you, especially in this political environment.
That's sad.
Because instinctively, as a law-abiding citizen, I want to help my friends in the FBI because I have great respect for law enforcement, as all of you that listen to this program regularly know.
And I'm being told by lawyers too.
You can't ever talk to people.
I'm like, you're kidding me, right?
I mean, uh, you want to help.
You want to no, don't.
Because if you say one thing that contradicts something else, or you had forgotten a conversation that you had With somebody that might sound a little different than what you're saying now, in this political environment, they'll try to destroy you.
Just like the IRS was used to destroy conservatives.
That makes me sad for my country.
It makes me very sad because I've met Secret Surface, I've met Intel people, I've met FBI people, I've had family in law enforcement my whole life, and I have the deepest love, respect, and appreciation for what they do.
But in this politically charged environment where we're now watching, we're literally, you know, wondering and watching whether or not, and this is where Circa News comes in and John Solomon and Sarah Carter, whether or not our intelligence community could have been weaponized,
trampling our constitutional rights, our Fourth Amendment rights against unreasonable search and seizure, where they're literally surveilling Americans or foreign entities are surveilling it, and they have access to the to the accumulation of data of foreign intelligence agencies, and that quote, technically legally gets them off the hook.
Or if you have, you know, a case of unmasking, which is just wrong.
If Americans are incidentally surveilled while they're doing their legitimate work to protect Americans and keep us safe and in a dangerous evil world that's so necessary, and they incidentally pick up an American, they're supposed to minimize it's a process of minimization.
They don't do it, like in the case of General Flynn.
And then when they write up the document, they're supposed to say American, they don't even, even if they know who it is.
And then we have the leaking of intelligence violation of the espionage act.
And the reason that this Seth Rich thing is so amazing to me is number one, what Julian Assange said.
If I had to guess, he probably regrets because he basically all but identified this kid as the source, not Russia.
Now you might say, Hannity, why should I trust WikiLeaks?
Julian Assange, okay.
Well, he does have an 11-year track record of never being wrong.
Never.
By the way, the charges against him in Sweden were drop today.
Sure, that's going to get a lot of pickup.
Um, but then he has the the bigger threat where there are people in the United States that want extradition because he had published information.
That's a different issue for a different day.
But my only point here is if in fact it wasn't the Russians that gave this information on the DNC, the files to the DNC, and let's say it was somebody else.
Well, the whole Russia conspiracy narrative of impact in the election dies.
So Julian Assange, all but kinda in that Dutch interview, to me, my interpretation is saying, wow, it sounds like it.
And meanwhile, he's denying that he ever got anything from any state or Russia specifically.
And we've interviewed him many times on the show and on Hannity the TV show.
And I went to London, or you might remember.
And yeah, he's being spied on all the time, and we all know that.
And so then you got this kid that works for the DNC, and then you got him, he's murdered.
Twelve days later, the WikiLeaks dump comes on the DNC.
He's he they've been saying for almost a year that this is a robbery.
Big problem with that is they shot him in the back.
They killed this poor kid, and my thoughts and prayers do go out to his family.
You lose a 27.
If I lose a 27-year-old kid, I'm I'm done.
Stick a fork in me, done.
I don't think I'd ever recover.
And I've got pretty broad shoulders.
So I my heart goes out to them.
My prayers go to them.
But they didn't rob him.
They didn't take his, I guess he had a chain or a necklace.
They didn't take his wallet.
They didn't take his phone.
What?
How's that?
They didn't take his watch.
How's that a robbery?
How do you justify calling it a robbery?
Now, if you look at there was one of the Washington papers that said, and it was a the former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan who's connected to Julian Assange, it said, yeah, there was a transfer in a wooded area near American University.
And here's the question.
Is it possible that somebody within the DNC ranks saw the injustice, the collusion, the unfairness, basically a coordinated effort to steal or prevent Bernie from ever having a fair shot of the nomination.
That supported Bernie Sanders.
And that maybe they were so outraged at this immoral conduct that they decided to expose it.
Is that a possibility?
Well, the media is not even contemplating asking that question.
Now we've been out there on a limb investigating Obama before he became president while everybody was in there, yes, we can know Obama, Obama, and they're chanting.
And we told you the truth about Obama, and we investigated Hillary in the emails and uranium one deal and the corruption and the lies in Benghazi and everything else.
We do their job.
They've ignored all of this.
And every step of the way, I'm always told my career's on the line.
And if you support Donald Trump and he loses, you're over.
You're done.
We'll write your obituary.
Now what I'm doing is what I've done in the past.
I'm investigating it and asking questions.
Something doesn't smell right to me.
And the media's ignoring that.
As they come out with their fake news story of the day.
That's what we're doing.
So to Mark, I'm just saying this doesn't smell right to me.
Doesn't smell right.
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All right, Newt Gingrich, he just got back from a long trip.
He's been out of pocket.
By the way, the president took off his hundred I'm sorry, fifteen thousand six hundred mile diplomacy tour.
By the way, I doubt it's gonna be an apology tour.
Yeah, we're on Hannity tonight, ten Eastern.
Don't miss the show.
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Now he's been traveling abroad, we've not had him on the program in a while, but you know, with all of this what I'm calling now the cycle of hysteria and and anonymous sourcing and late day drops and breathless reporting, um, and then it all turns out to be false.
For example, the deputy attorney general did not attempt or did not say he was going to resign.
But that was the headline in the Washington Post.
Uh James Comey did not ask for more money just before he got fired by Donald Trump, or all the other many false news stories that have come out in recent days.
You know, the discussion, well, secrets were revealed to the Russians.
Okay, but the people in the room say that's not true.
And all the other fake phony news and all the breathless reporting and the hysteria and the impeachment talk, and joining us with his perspective is former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich.
I actually quoted you this week when you weren't here because you wrote a a brutal takedown of the mainstream media.
Well look, I just try and do accurately report on what's going on.
Uh and the fact is that they are they've just gone off the deep end.
Well, you even said you said it's disgusting, you're disgusted, and it's despicable, and it is.
Well, and I had the experience I was in Kiev in the Ukraine, and people there were getting their news from CNN and the New York Times, and I talked to a student group and a young parliamentarian group, uh and then to a more older, more mature group, and again and again I was getting questions as though these false stories were true.
Because all their only source of reference was CNN, which was hysterical twenty-four hours a day and being anti-Trump.
And I began to realize that CNN has done more damage in the last four months to the United States overseas than either Al Jazeera or Pravda ever dreamed they would do.
They must be telling me the truth.
All right, but I've identified five forces that would like to take down the president.
I think the most dangerous is the deep state.
I think that is the intelligence leaking, surveillance unmasking, We don't get to the bottom of that.
It's never gonna end.
Even Chuck Schumer said, Yeah, you go against them, they'll get you six ways in Sunday.
Then the media with their breathless hysterical reporting every day creates an impression that this president is is not able to govern.
That's part of their goal, and ultimately their their top goal would be to take him down, then you got Democrats, they've they've wanted impeachment since November 9th, then you got weak Republicans that won't defend the President, then you got the never Trumpers, they're fueling the fire to say that we were right and people like Gingrich and Hannity were wrong.
Well, of course.
I mean this is why I have so strongly endorsed uh Dennis Prager's view that we're in a cultural civil war.
Uh these these people make perfect sense if you understand that the world they want, the way they want to change America, the left wing values they want to impose, all of those things are put at risk by Donald Trump.
And if Donald Trump succeeds, their entire world view is going to disappear.
And I think that's why you have this bitterness and this anger, and in some cases violence or threats of violence.
I mean, it's the most intense I can remember it in my lifetime in terms of genuine deep political hostility.
I look, I was with you when you were speaker.
I I was there for a lot of that time, and it was hostile then.
This is at a level that is so much higher.
And when you look when you start having members who have death threats, uh when you have a woman chasing a congressman down the street in a car, uh when you have young fascists threatening uh to beat up anybody in a parade who they don't like.
I mean, you just go down the list of things that have been happening recently, and it be it really is like the nineteen thirties in Germany and Italy.
I mean, the left has just gone off the deep end, and they are prepared to uh use every means they can to stop Donald Trump.
I agree wholeheartedly.
I really do.
So what about how the White House is handling all this?
Do you uh can they make improvements to me it seems like eighty percent of their time now is being consumed with just dealing with the six o'clock or five thirty or five forty-five daily bomb that the the hate Trump destroy Trump media is gonna dump on him.
Well, that's part of the reason I wrote the newsletter at Gingrich Productions which said, you know, we're either going to fight or surrender.
By the way, I almost want to like interrupt you and say, okay, that's it sounds worse than it is, and you want me to talk for you for a minute because you're not sure.
No, it's okay.
I just I I I was on several long airplane rides and my voice dried out.
The White House does not yet realize this is a real war.
They can't appease the media.
I mean, the president has lunch with some of the media who hate him, despise him, attack him every day.
He's legitimizing the very people who spend their time attacking him.
And that's just wrong.
And I think the White House I hope when they go on this trip that they will really take some time and think about the mess that they've left behind in terms of the news media, the hostility, the Democrats in Congress, and I hope they'll come back prepared to really think about how you fight this kind of a campaign, because you have to be prepared to fight every day, and you have to be deciding that you know they have tools if they want to use them, they give them enormous advantages.
Uh for example, the president can report direct to the American people and simply ignore the news media.
And if he did that, he would get his message across and then let the news media figure out how they were going to cover him.
You totally every time he dances with them, he makes he empowers them and he makes them look more creditable and more respectable than they should be.
Okay.
So I agree with you.
So i look, you always think and have concrete ABCD one, two, three, four.
What are the ABC D 1234 answers from your perspective?
Well, first of all, don't take their bait and spend your time talking about just trash.
I mean, all this stuff, if you were to look at the last five weeks, the amount of time the White House has spent on left wing trash is absurd.
The President ought to talk about job creation, the President ought to talk about the kind of health system we want, the President ought to talk about national security, the President ought to talk about uh cutting red tape and regulations, and all the junk that these people want to spend every day on, this is why they should they should stop having the daily press briefings.
Because Spicer's not gonna ever be able to get past the the garbage questions that are gonna come up from the news media.
And so the news media right now has the president dancing to their tune.
Well, the president has the ability to go on Facebook, he has the ability to talk from the Oval Office, he has the ability to do daily briefings, he can do major speeches.
If he will be disciplined, he can step past all this junk and rebuild his national coalition around the things that affect American people's lives.
It's a simple test.
If it affects the lives of the American people, talk about it.
If it's just Washington gossip, do not talk about it.
I'm not I'm I'm being serious with this question, and you you might interpret it the wrong way.
I don't mean it the wrong way.
Is that realistic?
Is it possible to ignore the press?
Sure.
Why not?
I'm just asking.
You you told the story of FDR.
We're seventy-four percent of the country is on Facebook.
You can you can create your own channel.
Trump did create his own channel.
If he had relied on the press, he'd have lost the election.
But he created channels on Twitter, he created channels on YouTube, created channels on Facebook, he created channels on Snapchat.
I mean, he was out there doing stuff and doing it better than they're doing it right now, because right now they're allowing the press to define what the topic is.
Do you think they're having never define a topic that helps Donald Trump?
Do you think they've had a net negative effect and and what do you make of all the impeachment talk and what do you make of the the general counsel appointment, special counsel appointment?
Well, I think first of all that the White House has to understand that this is very dangerous.
Now you're now entering criminal law.
You're not this is not a New York real estate deal.
And they need to have the right lawyers, they need to behave very carefully, and then you'd understand that what happens is, you know, people who are totally innocent get caught up, say the wrong thing, end up committing perjury or obstruction of justice, and all of a sudden you're in a totally different fight you never dreamed of.
So they've got to take this very carefully.
And I don't think yet that they've done that.
Second, put it to one side.
They're the only every question they get asked about this topic, they can say that's currently being handled by sp by Mueller, and we're working with Mueller, we're cooperating totally.
Next question.
And that's all they have to say.
You know, it's a very interesting thing.
It's a very interesting question.
Because I have an FBI friend of mine.
I'm really uh like all these FBI guys that I've ever known, and all the secret servicemen I've met and and all the people in intelligence I've met, you know what they say to me is that if the remember think of all the cases like Danny Haster with a payment deal, he got in trouble for lying to the FBI.
Right.
Now let's say you say something and you just misremembered it, and I'm not joking around here.
I mean, that's four years earlier, and you said this to them, or there's a difference between outright lying.
I mean, it almost seems to me you can't win if you don't have a perfect memory in being interrogated by law enforcement if they are weaponized with a political agenda.
Sure, look, I've I've said very directly, people like Flynn should never testify unless they get a grant of immunity.
Because you you go in front of one committee, you give an answer, you go to a second committee, you give an answer, you sit down and get interviewed by the FBI and you give an answer, and some very smart people take those three answers, lay them over each other, and say, now wait a second.
In paragraph nine, sentence two, you were different.
Now why were you different?
Were you hiding something?
And you get into the the person I feel the most angered about is Scooter Libby, who literally did nothing wrong.
That's true.
But the independent counsel, who is supposedly going after a leak, knew who had leaked.
It was a member of the State Department, told that person to shut up and not admit they leaked, so he could use his position.
It was Richard Armitage, they knew from day one that leaked.
Right.
They knew it.
And they didn't shut down the investigation.
Because the independent counsel wanted to get Vice President Cheney.
You know, I I had this story that came out about me not that long ago, and I never verified it.
That well, I might have been unmasked and surveilled.
And I just talked to some lawyer friends of mine, and I said, Well, okay, what if what if this is true?
They said, Well, number one, you're a journalist, number two, these are lawyers.
They said, I'd never let you say a word.
And I said, Well, no, no, no.
When they asked me a question, uh they said, I can't.
We can't.
Because if you don't have a perfect memory, you're you're you're setting yourself up.
And I'm thinking, I love the FBI.
I'd only want to help the FBI.
I mean, that's what my natural instincts are.
Of course.
But is that like is that the world we're now living in?
Yes.
That I can't have uh try and help people that I love and respect.
You better be very careful because you become the next target.
Listen, I I had an independent counsel appointed against me when I was speaker.
We turned over a million pages.
And he would say, now here on page fifty-two thousand five hundred and nine.
As smart as you are, you can't possibly keep up.
It's an impossible task.
It's impossible.
All right, stay right there.
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As we continue with former Speaker of the House, New King Rich, his voice a little sore, he just got back from doing a lot of traveling.
You can't just dive in like this.
All the years I've known you.
This is the first time I've heard you talk about your underwear.
Let me tell you, I'm going to send you some.
I'll send you the t-shirt.
I just want to let it mark for the record that on this date you and Sean ended up.
Sean's underwear.
This has got to be fake news.
I don't know.
This is probably fake news.
I don't even know what you're talking about.
You know what?
For all the years I've known you, I'm, you know, when you the admonition you just gave before the break about the special counsel and the president, he better take it seriously.
Why in my mind, and I don't know Mueller.
I don't know if you know him.
I don't know him personally, and I'm worried that he loves Comey, and he may have some bias that Comey was fired.
But I think what scares me is at the end of this this thing, it's all gonna hinge on an interview with the president after months and months and months and months of investigations go on.
I mean, uh what does the president do at that point?
Remember it's not just Mueller.
I mean, Mueller's very, very respected.
He was a very courageous American in Vietnam.
He by every standard, he is a tremendous professional, but he's gonna head up a team of investigators.
And those investigators are all trained to look at every piece of evidence and wherever possible to draw the most negative possible conclusion.
And they're gonna look at an enormous amount of material, and as you point out, they're then gonna start with with the White House team, and then they're gonna get to the president, and they're gonna be tracking back and forth.
Now, in this meeting on December 11th, you know, one of the fifty-two meetings you had that week.
Two people remember this and one person remembers that.
What do you think happened?
That's really dangerous ground.
And the president needs a world-class attorney who understands how to deal with this kind of investigation.
And frankly, every person who's going to be touched by Mueller should have a first class attorney and not assume in any way that any of this is a risk-free game.
This is a very dangerous project.
It has the potential to put people in jail, and you have to deal with it with that level of seriousness.
Is it now the point where journalists that are conservative but now under the same level of attack, or is this gonna be at the White House?
I have always felt this, and I'm under more attack than I ever have ever been.
And I know you've been under attack your whole life, to be honest.
So you're this is you know nothing for you, but it just feels like it's got a level of intensity that the left wants as much collateral damage.
Anyone that supports the president, likes the president, believes in the agenda, and that means everybody in the White House, everybody outside the White House that everybody now is gonna be subject to all sorts of attacks that never they're never ending.
The difference is this the left is now so frenzied and so uh furious that they want to humiliate and destroy.
They don't if you watch them on college campuses, they engage in in hunting down conservatives.
They engage in ridiculing and humiliating people.
I mean, there's a whole mood out there that I think is very, very dangerous.
I first saw it when Scott Walker proposed to reform the civil service bureaucrats in Madison, and he and his wife both got death threats.
And I thought, you know, this is really touching a nerve.
I mean, uh, and I think that's what you're seeing.
They don't just want to defeat President Trump.
They want to humiliate him, drive him from office, and make sure that no populist conservative can win to the next half century.
Uh so they want to make an example of him.
And he needs to understand that.
And remember, 99% of the donations in the State Department went to Hillary Clinton.
Ninety-seven percent of the donations in the Justice Department went to Hillary Clinton.
That gives you some idea what the balance of the culture is like and what they think about the current president of the United States.
All right, Mr. Speaker, thank you.
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You know, I'm getting criticized.
Mark Cuban was writing me.
I'm not going to disclose the privacy of the messaging that we did back today.
And I've always I like respect Mark.
He seems to have a real something in his crow about the president Donald Trump, and we're going back and forth.
And he keeps asking me, why are you reporting on this this young man, this 27-year-old DNC staffer Seth Rich.
Um I can only say this now, although Reddit is putting up some interesting do you trust the people at Reddit, Linda?
I do.
And I think there's a lot of people that are reporting that are doing the hard work that the journalists are not doing because they're too busy reporting fake news.
I'm digging really hard, is all I'm gonna say.
Like we did a deep dive into Obama, like we did a deep dive into Obama's failures, like we did a deep dive into the Clinton Foundation.
We don't need to do a deep dive.
There's 19 cameras on the block where the man was murdered.
We just need to see the tape.
Where's the tape?
Let's see the tape.
Okay.
And I've have come across somebody that is a friend of his that cares deeply about what has happened to him, and that feels strongly um that this this is this may look that you can't call it a robbery for a year and they shoot somebody in the back.
I'm sorry, it goes, it defies all common sense and logic that I have.
I want to be respectful to the family, and apparently they're upset and they're mad and they're annoyed at anybody reporting it, and and the idea that perhaps he might have had contact with WikiLeaks, etc.
But you know, what I'm being told is he was a Bernie supporter and had a lot of social media accounts.
And, you know, that he might have been doing the right thing.
This is where my investigation is going.
I want to find out if he was a person of deep conviction and conscience and felt and discovered that the DNC had colluded to absolutely screw over Bernie Sanders and Bernie Sanders supporters.
And to me, which would make him a real iconoclastic courageous truth teller.
And I don't know why, I guess because it's everything's colored by the world of politics today, that that would somehow be a a bad thing.
But if you're gonna rob somebody, you're not gonna steal their wallet, you're not gonna take their credit cards, you're not gonna take their a necklace that might be worth something, or a phone, or you're not gonna take their watch.
I don't know.
That seems is there anybody in there that thinks that sounds a little odd?
Everybody.
All right, you guys are all waving your hands.
And you know, I got something that is I'm I'm gonna hold off on.
It's on Reddit, a thousand and one gates, you know, to the to the truth here, and that in fact that he was a Bernie Sanders supporter.
Now I'm gonna investigate this.
Now, why does this matter?
Because the whole narrative, if in fact, if in fact it was a a person of conscience that discovered what ended up getting Debbie Wasserman Schultz fired, and that in fact it was somebody other than the Russians, maybe from within the DNC, and I'm not saying necessarily Seth at all.
And my thoughts and prayers go to him and his family.
I can't imagine losing a 27-year-old child.
I don't know how you recover from that.
And and I I just there's it's I'd be I'd not be consolable at that point.
So, but finding an answer, is it a possibility that the entire Russia collusion narrative and story is false?
Now, I can understand why the media's not interested in it, because that's gonna expose them as having been God awful wrong forever.
That's it.
That then would say, you know, the media, then it's sort of like everyone in the media that did the tinfoil hat conspiracy theory, Russia Trump campaign, Trump transition team conspiracy theory will have been proven wrong.
And that, you know, when I listen to Julian Assange in his own voice, and I know some of you say, Hannity, why do you trust Julian?
He's never been wrong in eleven years.
And you gotta give WikiLeaks credit.
I also think I have a better understanding of him having met him and interviewed him as often as I have.
It's just my opinion.
All right, so you can see.
I I think a lot of you you don't want to trust my judge.
Don't trust my judgment.
Question.
Ask, ask questions.
But this wasn't a robbery.
It was not a robbery.
There's nothing that points to a robbery.
And that's been the rigid narrative forever.
Here's the next question.
Who's in possession of this young man's computers?
Who has them?
Because they'd tell a tale.
Yes or no.
Where are they?
Just a thought.
All right, let's get to our busy telephones here as we go to let me see.
Billy is in Savannah, Georgia.
What's up, Billy?
Hi there.
Thank you for listening to my idea.
Yes, what's up?
Um, if physically harming our plotting to harm the president is a major crime.
All right.
So let's follow all the little snowflakes down their little rabbit holes, right?
Right.
Emotional and mental distress.
And very bad, and anyone who causes someone to have emotional and mental distress should be accounted for.
You know, they should be, you know, taken care of.
Right.
Right.
So I'm listening.
Go ahead.
Then why then are the media, the Democrats, and the Republicans attacking, belittling, bad mouthing, trying to diminish the president's reputation.
And not only that, now they're dragging his young son into it.
Okay, if any emotional damage can be done, let me tell you, that would be the one for me.
You know, they're dragging his son into it.
They're causing all this damage and this, you know, to his reputation to itself.
Are they not then by their own philosophy and belief becoming the biggest criminals that we know?
Look, you have an FBI director that was partnering with a guy that believed that he had a and had a dossier, and he was about to put him on the payroll that believed that Donald Trump had hookers in the Ritz Carlton in Moscow years ago, and they were urinating on his bed.
And it's only because it became public that that stopped.
That was James Comey that wanted apparently to put this guy on his on a on some type of payroll.
Then you've got Melania Trump, and we know the horrible things said about her.
Then you got incest jokes, not that there's such a joke in the world about Ivanka Trump.
Then you got a 10-year-old being picked on, then you got every single person surrounding the president, liking the president, supporting the president, all being attacked.
And you gotta go back to my narrative.
It's you know, today is you gotta see the cycle, you gotta see the breathlessness, you gotta see, you know, it's sadly when they drop a bomb story, and I mean a bomb stinker, but that they create as much chaos as they can.
It gets proven wrong, then they just drop another one, and everyone forgets that the last three things that they reported on were lies.
And that's the Washington Post today.
You know, I I honestly think we're getting to a point where libel laws have to change in the country.
And I believe in freedom of speech, but having been a victim of slander and smears and besmirchment and outright lies, it's you want to defend yourself.
And the first thing my lawyer says to me, you're a public figure.
And I get it.
The bar becomes that much higher.
So I guess, you know, what you can say is that there's nothing really that they can do.
There's except we can demand that better reporting.
I mean, you know, one of the reasons I think talk radio, Fox News, Matt Drudge, Breitbart, uh, the Fox News channel have been under such heavy fire is they they want to keep us off our game.
They want us out of the game because we expose them.
And we're an alternative.
But look, understand, it's a it's it There is a cultural battle going on that I have never seen in my life.
With an intensity I've never seen in my life.
And this is this is a real battle, a real conflict, and there are no compunctions, so it seems, in terms of any adherence or fidelity to truth or ethics on the other side.
So I'm just embracing what it is.
I face the truth.
I understand what I'm up against, and I go from there.
I think that's all we can do.
Thank you, Billy.
Uh let's say hi to Mark in North Carolina.
What's up, Mark?
How are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean.
Great to talk to you, man.
I've tried so hard to get through to you.
Thank you.
I think that uh first thing is I wish I could move from North Carolina to South Carolina just so I could help the primary uh Lindsay Graham.
He's the worst.
I'm first hired to Lindsey Graham and McCain and these guys absolutely, you know, betraying their party and...
And just the fact that they even help to allow this uh independent council go is just something the Democrats would never allow, and they're just getting outmaneuvered.
I I don't know who he thinks he's serving.
Secondly, on the independent council, I'm hoping Trump uses that to his advantage and has Sean Spicer and everybody from his administration just say, Look, there's a investigation, we're not gonna answer one question about this fake news, anything related to it, we're not talking about it ever again.
There's an you know, use the old A, there's an investigation going on, so we can't talk about it.
And just just keep calling it what it is.
Absolute fake news.
It's really fake news, and and I gotta tell you, they're getting good at it.
They're getting good at the hype and the hysteria.
Now, look, there's gonna be a point where, except for the really, really hardcore leftists, where those people that are buying into the hype and you know, that they're gonna have to realize, all right, how many more times are you gonna suck me in with hopes that I Donald Trump is on his way out the door?
You know, the good news is look, this is a long-term conflict.
They want to undermine an election, the election results.
They don't want this president to be able to govern.
And if we care about the direction of the country and want to prevent this from happening, then we've got an obligation to now engage like we did in the election with the same intensity.
And there's no doubt the deep state, the media, liberal democrats, weak Republicans, and never Trumpers have their agenda to destroy the president.
And our job is if we want the country that we voted for, we we've got to engage again.
And I I think people are sensing it.
I feel it, I feel engaged to fight.
And um I feel engaged to tell the truth.
I feel as engaged as I did during the election.
To me, the stakes are just as high.
To me, the stakes are just as high.
All right, let's get back to our busy telephones here.
Janet is in Boca Raton in beautiful Florida.
Hey Janet, how are you?
Glad you called.
Thank you.
It's such a pleasure to speak to you again.
I'm so honored to talk to you.
Well, thank you.
You made my day.
How are you?
You're so genuine, you're so you're really the real deal.
Well, you're very kind.
I wish that everybody in the world would listen to you and be open-minded and know that you speak righteous and righteous.
And I just can't believe what you know what goes on.
And I just wanted to say thank you for the Trump pens, and my grandkids were hysterical.
Yeah, it's funny, right?
I mean, every time you show that to somebody, it's a reaction is pretty amazing.
They were hysterical.
Yeah.
And they said, Where did you get to use it?
I said, Oh, it's a long story.
You know the funny thing.
We had like a million requests.
I don't remember how many did we ultimately buy Linda?
I bought a bunch of them.
How many did I buy?
Oh, God, I don't know.
I had to go check my office.
No, no, no.
Well, you know how many we ordered, how many did we order?
Oh, God, I I think it was like two or three thousand.
It was so, so many.
And and they went in ten seconds.
I mean, I can't possibly fulfill them.
But I still have one box left because I have some people that I need to give them away to, so stop giving them away.
I will be the greatest president that God ever created.
Look, I'm really rich.
I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will have Mexico pay for that wall.
I don't wear it to pay.
It's my hair.
I swear.
I love China.
I just sold an apartment for 15 million dollars to somebody from China.
Our leaders are stupid.
Our politicians are stupid.
We will have so much winning if I get elected that you may get bored with winning.
I think I am a nice person.
People that know me like me.
Anything else on your mind today?
Just um wanted to say thank you, and I just I just enjoy listening to you.
I even leave more calls just so I can get the three o'clock, you know, so I can listen to you.
Oh, that's and um you know, and it's so difficult to get to you, but um I just want to.
Well, if it was easy, that would mean there's not enough people listening, Janet.
That wouldn't be good.
Yeah, well, I wish they all would listen to you because you know, at least you give hope to this world and you know, positiveness, and that's what we need.
We don't need all this negativity.
I mean, it's disgusting.
Oh, it's crazy.
Listen, it's off the hook and out of control.
And I've never seen anything like it in my life.
And you know, with that said, I'm I'm energized, I'm motivated, I'm ready to fight, and um I don't have a lot of fear in my life.
I just don't.
I um I'm not easily intimidated.
There's certain is there's like one thing in my life that I really don't do well with, and and I experienced it this week with Roger L's death.
I don't like death.
I have a hard time with that, but I I pretty much can handle everything else.
And you know, there's a lot of stuff that we're dealing with on a daily basis here.
We're just trying to keep up and do our our job and keep focused and you know, provide news and information and opinion you're not gonna get anywhere else.
And that's what being a talk show host means.
Yes, I'm a journalist.
I'm a journalist in this way.
Yeah, we do straight interviews.
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And sometimes we debate people, then sometimes we give commentary.
That's all under the umbrella of being a talk show host.
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I well, not in the traditional sense.
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So far, you've not seen any evidence of collusion, is that right?
Well, uh evidence that would establish that there's collusion.
Well, I respect the move, but the entire thing has been a witch hunt, and uh there is no collusion between certainly myself and my campaign, but I can always speak for myself and the Russians, zero.
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I think the American people want to know the has the dismissal of Mr. Comey in any way impeded, interrupted, stopped, or negatively impacted any of the work, any investigation or any th ongoing uh projects at the Federal Bureau of Investigations.
The work of the men and women of the FBI continues despite any um changes in circumstance, any decisions.
Um there has been no effort to impede our investigation today.
So if the Attorney General or senior officials at the Department of Justice opposes a specific investigation, can they halt that FBI investigation?
In theory, yes.
As it happened, not in my experience, because it would be a big deal to tell the FBI to stop doing something that without a appropriate purpose.
I mean we're oftentimes they give us opinions that we don't see a case there, and so you ought to stop investing resources in it.
But I'm talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason.
That would be a very big deal.
It's not happened in my experience.
Mr. President, let's get your reaction to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein's decision to appoint a special counsel uh to investigate the Russia Russian interference in the campaign.
Was this the right move or is this part of a witch hunt?
Well, I respect the move, but the entire thing has been a witch hunt and uh there is no collusion between certainly myself and my campaign, but I can always speak for myself and the Russians, zero.
Uh I think it divides the country.
I think we have uh a very divided country because of that and many other things.
Uh so I can tell you that uh we want to bring this great country of ours together, John, and I will also say very strongly we've had tremendous success.
All right, the acting FBI director, then the FBI director, and then the president.
By the way, all of those remember we pointed out laws that are broken.
In fact, if the FBI director was told by the president, well, let's end this investigation thing, the so called big memo story flop of the week, the obstruction of justice.
Well, that would have meant that he had a legal obligation as the attorney j as the FBI director of the United States to take it to the Justice Department.
He didn't do it because it didn't rise to the level, and he's on tape after the meeting saying, No, no one's ever tried because it would be a big deal.
And so is McCabe saying the same thing.
You see how many fake news stories that we we're fed a line, anonymous sources, and then after the anonymous sources come out and people outside the White House that weren't in the room, well then comes the media feeding frenzy, hysteria, breathless reporting, and then after that we we spend twenty-four hours, we put timelines together, facts together, other statements that these people have made together, and lo and behold, the story gets blown out of the water.
Or we just actually interview somebody like the deputy attorney general who supposedly had threatened to quit, and he says, No, I never threaten to quit.
Or we talk about, well, Comey was fired, but he was asking for more money for the investigation.
No, that didn't happen either.
It just is no end to any of of this, but it's a cycle.
Understand, this is the cycle.
But now Democrats have realized they they went full on hardcore press this whole week and last week.
They got nothing now.
They say, Oh, let's back off the impeachment talk because you know what, I think this might begin to backfire.
That's where we are.
Former U.S. Attorney Matthew Whitaker is with us.
He's the Executive Director of the Foundation for Accountability and Civic Trust, former U.S. Attorney from 2004 to 2009.
And uh what about this memo?
What about what you just heard from James Comey's and it would be a big deal, a really big deal if somebody tried to get me to stop an investigation.
Um and then the big memo comes out, but what he said happened after the meeting with Trump.
Well, and this is the thing, Sean.
I mean, i it is so frustrating for someone like myself that served in the Department of Justice that knows how that organization runs, and to have everyone else wildly speculating as to the content of a memo that no one's seen, the you know, sort of duties that FBI Director Comey had that if he thought he was being interfered with by the president, what he would have done, we don't have any reporting that he did do that.
So I mean it's just uh you know, it doesn't prevent the the people uh that hold themselves out as experts as to, you know, uh making up news and like you said, creating fake news and and uh and and making accusations.
But you know, right now I don't see anything in my experience that would suggest that the president or or anyone has done anything wrong as it relates to uh the investigation that the uh now special counsel Bob Moeller is conducting.
Well, nobody ever stopped the investigation.
The the investigation was not on uh not defunded or not funded at the level that the FBI said they wanted or needed.
There's still no proof whatsoever of collusion of any kind or or even contact, but yet the conspiracy theories continue and and again the double standard is is so transparent.
It seems to me that there's a pattern that's emerged, though.
You literally have the news media, and it's a cycle here.
What they'll do is they'll drop an anonymous source or people outside the white White House or unnamed sources, they'll drop a late afternoon bombshell, so all the cable channels go insane.
They'll have breathless reporting that goes on and on and on after the late day drop, and then after that, then we find out oh, you mean the deputy attorney general didn't threaten a fire, but that was a big lead story in the Washington Post, and Comey didn't ask for for extra money because they have sufficient funding.
I mean, I I I'm not sure how justice could be carried out for anybody under these circumstances.
Yeah, the only the good news is is that while the the sort of these these stories keep coming up and then are debunked, what you actually have is the professionals within the FBI and the Department of Justice that are career uh folks with a lot of experience are doing their jobs, and you know the the the rut the alleged Russian interference in the election and whatever that's been characterized as now.
I haven't seen any reports of actual evidence that anything happened.
Diane Feinstein said it last night.
I mean, she said there's no evidence.
With all the noise and all the hysteria that has gone on, there's no evidence at all.
Um and you see what's playing out in terms of the national news media here.
Let me ask you this.
If James Comey had this meeting with the president, which is in January, and then in May, he's saying it would be a big deal if anyone tried to get me to stop an investigation.
Well, if in fact his notes that he made to himself were accurate and he thought the president was trying to influence him, isn't there aren't there two codes, 18 U.S. Code 48 U.S. Code 1361 that would compel him legally that he would have had to go to the Justice Department?
Yes.
And and it he would be subject to criminal penalties himself if he didn't report uh that obstruction.
And and and we we should we should take it for I guess let's assume that this memo exists, and let's assume that the president asked him to stop investigating Flint.
Um that doesn't rise to the level of obstruction of justice, and it doesn't sound to me, based on what's been reported, that Jim Comey, as he sat there believed that the president was telling him to stop the investigation.
As you know, uh in in the law and in these types of situations, the words and the what whatever the president did or didn't say is going to be very important.
And if all he did was make a mere suggestion and not an outright command, I don't think that rises to the level of...
Couldn't it have been the same thing as what he said about Hillary?
And this, ah, I don't want to cause these people any more pain.
I don't want to do this.
I have no intention of doing that.
Remember, he said that?
I do remember that.
And I and I think Was he obstructing was he obstructing justice then based on the standard that Comey is saying in the memo and the way the media is suggesting it?
I don't think it's I don't think that's the case at all.
And and I and I uh unless this memo is uh has been produced, uh which I haven't seen a copy of it, but all I've seen is the New York Times report uh of what it may or may not contain.
But the president denies that that conversation even happened in the first place.
So until we know all the facts, uh I I to to suggest that there's obstruction of justice here, I think is taking a uh a reckless uh step that that I think some folks and some media commentators are going to really regret ultimately.
All right.
Let me ask you about Hillary Clinton.
You heard James Comey on the fifth of July last year.
We know what the laws are regarding the handling of classified documents and what gross negligence happens to be, and that's the legal standard, and and Comey used the term extreme recklessness.
Is there any difference between gross negligence and extreme recklessness?
No, and at the time I wrote an op-ed in the USA Today that suggested I would have prosecuted that case, and I'm a reasonable prosecutor.
I think the evidence was there.
I think you there was actually you could point to several uh facts that show that she had specific intent uh to do this, and one of those would be setting up a private email server in the first place.
In other words, that was designed to circumvent congressional oversight.
Yeah, and and especially FOIA laws, which I mean, we saw the communications between her and Cheryl Mills and others about you know a lack of uh desire to have people poking around in their private correspondence.
Top secret classified documents, special access program documents on a computer server in a mom and pop shop bathroom closet.
Is that reach a standard of gloss gross negligence?
Uh erasing nearly thirty-three thousand emails, some top secret, isn't that a violation of the law?
Aren't these felonies?
I I think they absolutely are, and I think that you know the fact that um Cheryl uh Cheryl Mills, I'm sorry, but the fact that uh the Attorney General Loretta Lynch at the time um, you know, acted in the way she did uh when the decision was going to be made and and sort of burned herself with her tarmac meeting with Bill Clinton and then put it all on the FBI uh Do you have any doubt that Hillary Clinton committed felonies?
No, not based on the evidence we know and what we've seen.
There is no doubt that she violated uh the mis and mishandled classified information.
And that would be a felony.
Absolutely.
And James Comey made a decision.
Does that fit within the realm and of prosecutorial discretion or does it seem political to you?
Well, it's it wasn't Jim's decision to make, and that's what been one of my criticisms.
You know, Rod Rosenstein served as the U.S. attorney when I was U.S. attorney in uh Des Moines, he was U.S. attorney in Maryland.
Right, but he made the decision and he circumvented the role of the attorney general, even if she needed to recuse herself, we have we have methods to do that, not for him to just take over and say I'm in charge.
Exactly.
And that's and that was one of the bases that Rod pointed out as to why Jim should have been let go because he did not follow the standards, traditions, protocols of not only uh making those prosecutorial decisions that aren't weren't his to make, but also to then go out and to talk about it so publicly uh about a denial of you know where they decided not to prosecute someone.
All right, stay right there.
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And as we continue with former U.S. attorney Matthew Whitaker, and uh again, he spent years as a former U.S. attorney, 2004 to 2009.
And what do you know of Robert Mueller?
And do you think the special counsel is a good idea?
Yeah.
He was uh FBI director when I was U.S. attorney and uh, you know, interacted with him on a on a handful of times, saw him speak, you know, heard um I I have a lot of respect for him.
I think he's a you know on both sides appear to be very impressed with him and and should be.
He's a former U.S. attorney in San Francisco and then FBI director, and I think he uh I think he'll do a good job.
I I'm a little disappointed, as you know, um there have been many of us that called during the Obama administration for special prosecutors in the Hillary Clinton email situation and and and other uh instances where uh the Obama Department of Justice didn't appoint any special prosecutors uh and and then uh you know the Trump administration now appoints a special prosecutor to look at this alleged interference by you know Russian nationals into the uh and collusion with the Trump campaign, which again there's been no evidence of that.
So I think that's a good thing.
What do we know by now, considering all the smoke that is out there?
I mean, you know a enough about the deep state, you know enough about our intelligence community, you know enough about the methods that law enforcement have at their avail, the tools at their avail.
Wouldn't we know by now if there was any there there?
Oh, yeah, there's d and this investigation's been going on for six months already.
Um we it there is probably a pretty clear picture as to what was or most likely wasn't happening.
Um, you know, clearly uh Flynn had some had some issues, or at least an issue with what he did or didn't disclose.
Um, but I I just you know, this idea that there was some uh collusion with Russian nationals and and even Putin to uh interfere and did interfere with the election, I think it's just ludicrous uh based on what we know at this point.
Uh well I think you're right on a lot of these things.
Why, if everybody's so concerned about collusion, two stories that stand out of my w mind.
One is the president with then President Obama tried to influence the Israeli elections and defeat a sitting prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, he even used taxpayer dollars to do it.
You know, if if that was such a big deal, why didn't anybody think about that?
Well, right.
I mean, and this is the you know, there is no doubt that both campaigns were talking to other countries.
Uh you would want to be well versed on issues all around the globe, and so I think it's funny that somehow this this story has been, you know, created and regurgitated about the Trump campaign in Russia, but we don't you know we're not talking about Hillary Clinton's campaign and all the foreign nationals that they were talking to, uh, because both campaigns wanted to be up to speed on geopolitical issues.
Um one last question, and I want to ask it about the real Russia scandal.
If you followed the uranium one deal, Hillary Secretary of State signs off on a waiver that allows twenty percent of America's uranium to get in the hands of Vladimir Putin, and the people surrounding that deal in Canada and elsewhere, all of a sudden millions of millions flowing into the Clinton Foundation.
Bill Clinton doubles his speaking rate and speaks in Moscow.
Does that sound like a pay-to-play scheme to you or quid pro quo to you and and why haven't we investigated that?
Well it does and at the time that that news broke um uh over a year ago now and uh you know my the Foundation for accountability and civic trust which I run uh in Washington DC we spoke out and we called for that's another area where we should have had a special prosecutor because it was it really smelled bad uh as to the uh State Department approval and then uh the subsequent Clinton Foundation donations and and it's uh it's something that's still out there and I hope eventually this Department of Justice can look into it.
I appreciate your time.
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All right let's go to Ben is in Colorado.
Ben, happy Friday.
Glad you called.
You're on the Sean Hannity Show.
Hey, Sean.
First of all, I'd just like to say thank you so much.
If it wasn't for you, I don't know where we'd be.
I think when this story's all written, you are going to be the key in a lot of ways to turning this thing around and ask you to please.
I know you've got things in place, but be safe.
If you get shot in the back, I don't know what we're going to do.
You know how many people are saying that to me?
I got a call from a friend of mine telling you, well, you know they're going to be investigating you.
you I know that you know that you're in trouble listen let me here's a little secret and truth that I'll never get credit for in my career but everybody on my team here who work so hard for me every day they they know because they're a part of it.
You know when we were investigating Obama hard in 07 and 08 I mean we were we were out there by an island unto ourselves right Linda tell me where I'm mistaken here and warned by friends and foes alike that this is the end.
Remember that?
Many many times.
All right.
All right.
So it didn't stop us.
We didn't think of the consequences.
We just we just kept pursuing it.
We pursued to tell the American people the truth heading into this election.
And we did more vetting.
We did more analysis.
We gave you who Donald Trump was, I think, in a way that was fair.
And and we fulfilled our campaign promise to give an equal shot to all the other candidates and and that the American people decided.
But, you know, there were people we didn't think about the consequences of Donald Trump won or lost.
Do we just went in for what we thought was right and what a disaster Hillary would be and how bad the last eight years was that nobody else was?
was reporting.
You know, it's the same thing here.
I mean, we're taking on the deep state.
We're taking on a hostile media that would love nothing more than to say Hannity's gone.
Hannity's fired.
Hannity's boycotted.
Hannity's in trouble.
But it doesn't stop us like it never has before.
Or, you know, the idea that we're asking really hard, tough questions that, you know, they should be asking, the Democratic Party should be asking about Seth Rich and about why he was murdered and why they keep telling us it's a robbery when nothing was robbed.
and you know what why did Julian Assange say what he said in Dutch TV and and you know we're not stopping asking the questions and we're doing our job.
The other thing, I really love the new fake news monologue deal, because one of the things that it proves that you've been saying for a long time is that journalism is dead.
And it's so obvious these people don't have an original thought.
Somebody says something, and the rest of them, like, you know, the monologue shows it perfectly.
They just parrot each other.
Well, look, it's sort of like groupthink and...
it's it's something that I I've seen a lot in my career and I you know I I like being my own person you know a lot of people say Hannah you're no journalist I'm not a journalist in the traditional sense no but I a talk show host comes under many umbrellas We do news information.
We make calls.
We do investigation.
We're journalists.
We also have a point of view.
We're the opinion page of a newspaper.
But we're also, you know, one day I may do a straight interview of somebody, another day I may debate somebody.
Another day I'm giving my commentary.
Another day I'm interviewing a straight interview of a presidential candidate, like a journalist and asking all the questions they would ask, and probably better ones than they could think of.
So being a talk show host is sort of all in all encompassing.
It's under all that umbrella.
So yeah, we're journalists.
And by the way, just to tell law enforcement and everybody else, we're protected as a journalist too.
Um advocacy journalist is a journalist.
So anyway, listen, I appreciate I'm not going anywhere.
I mean, look, I've if look, if people are gonna stop me, they're gonna have to rip this microphone out of my hand.
I'll go kicking and screaming, and you could probably find me driving around somewhere.
Maybe we'll get a central location and we'll do the talk show in person.
Maybe I'll get two, you know, a bottle of wine and two Dixie cups.
That's what we'll do.
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All right, Richard is in Montreal in Canada.
Richard, how are you?
Glad you called.
Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show.
Hi, Sean.
You're doing a great job.
Um, I like to talk about Philip Haney.
I'm just wondering why uh President Trump won't hold a joint press conference with Mr. Hayne to get his story out because CNN and NBC and the Democrats are terrified that his story will get out there because if his story gets out there, the credibility of those news organizations are finished.
Do you agree with that?
Yes, I do agree.
Listen, I think Philip Haney is a natural national treasure, a great guy.
We're still in touch with him.
He's a founding member of the DHS.
Remember, he wrote the book, See Something, Say Nothing.
He's also a guy that we love on this program, and he's also the guy that was ordered by Obama to literally scrap from the beginning of the DHS all of the intelligence that they had gathered over the years leading up to 2008.
It's a it's a disgrace what they did.
And apparently he's told me that Congress still has copies of all the hard work that they did.
In other words, and he always talks about connecting the dots, and that he had he been at the Department of Homeland Security, he believes he could have connected the dots before San Bernardino.
Right.
Is President Trump avail aware of uh his story of his report or um let me I know more than I really want to tell.
Is that fair?
And it's not that I'm being coy or smart ass or I'm just I'm not.
I just there are people now that I think are beginning to get it.
President Trump is going to talk about him.
I think there's there's a lot more going on.
I think look, this president got to remember, it's very quick on his feet.
He's quick to adjust.
His trajectory from private life, entrepreneur, businessman, to politician.
There's a lot of rough patches in there, but the growth trajectory was unlike any I've seen.
And I'm predicting it's gonna be the same as being president.
He's he's gonna stumble, he's gonna hit a few roadblocks, he's got a few learning curves there, but at the end of the day, he's gonna get it.
And I think we're on the road to getting it both on the economy and on national security issues, and on an enemy that at least he has the courage to identify, which is radical Islamic terrorists.
Uh anyway, Richard, thank you.
You have a great weekend.
God bless you.
I appreciate The call 800-941 Sean is a toll free telephone number.
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