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If you want to join us, Linda's still mad that I didn't take off yesterday and today she's starting in on me already today.
I'm not I I am healthy as a horse today.
I am I'm not coughing up half my lungs.
I'm not as sick as yesterday.
I got some sleep last night, some well needed rest.
And you would have had me off the air for the next two days, twiddling my thumbs and acting like Congress and being lazy and not showing up and taking recesses.
So you kind of owe an apology to the audience.
Go ahead.
You're right.
I'm I'm so so sorry that you're feeling better.
You know, you seem too zen today.
Are you not well today?
What's maybe you're sick today?
You know, I I I do feel a little under the weather.
I may need to go home.
Go.
I what uh what what's my rule?
I don't know.
What is your rule?
Because it doesn't seem to apply anymore.
Well, Jason, no, no, no, no.
My rule is don't come to the office sick.
Oh, you were.
Wait, wait, wait.
Hold on.
Could you say it again?
No, no, no.
I'll say it again, because we're gonna roll tape.
Okay, because this is my staff that I love and care about.
And I am the leader of the staff.
I know you're so potato.
I know you think you think you think you're the boss because everybody knows if they get to you, they have this big sort of apron of protection that you offer them because if they do something wrong, they'll go running to you because you're gonna be nice about it, and you're gonna take credit for the mistake and you're gonna cover for them, and then when I ask you who it is, you're not gonna tell me who it is.
And then when you don't tell me who it is, I get frustrated, and by the time I spend five minutes of my day trying to get out of you, who is it?
And you don't tell me I'm pissed off that you won't tell me more than whatever it is that they did wrong.
What does this have to do with you ignoring doctors' orders on air and now saying that orders are the same rules you're doing?
I love Dr. Umber, and but I don't need Dr. Umber today.
You know, remember, five days after you take your Z pack, it's still working in your body and your systems are where did you get your uh MD from?
I don't have an MD, wise ass.
I just why are you picking on me today?
I'm in because it's just so much fun.
Oh, okay.
Oh, so now oh, it's fun.
It's always fun.
It's always fun.
I mean, normally I don't get to do it on air.
I mean, now everybody gets to hear it.
So it's every day.
Every day.
Every day.
Every day you try and just push my buttons, annoy, aggravate, agitate, irritate, upset, hurt my feelings, or like yesterday, just before TV, you give me a call, and I'm like, what now?
What is it now?
And you're welcome.
Because if you're calling late at night, it's never a good thing, and it was a dumb question.
And and and what happens?
What happens when I irritate you?
Nothing.
Nothing happens?
Nothing at all happens.
Nothing?
Nothing.
Are you sure?
Jason, what happens?
What?
Why are you trying to don't don't drag me in into your little channel?
You know what?
You know what you're doing.
I know you keep on.
I know you and Sunshine and Ethan, you all hide behind her apron because if you guys screw up, she says, I did it.
Even if you screw up in the board, which by the way, in Jason's defense, he rarely, rarely ever does.
Occasionally, Ethan, he's not quite up to Jason's part yet, but he's getting there.
He's doing well, and it's a tough job.
So she'll even say, Oh, I pushed that button.
And she's nowhere near the button to push the button.
And she'll just sit there and lie about it right to my face.
And all I'm asking is, well, what happened?
Well, you know what happens when I irritate you, right?
No, it is there's a conspiracy.
It's a conspiracy.
Have you been unveiled and unmasked by my wielding conspiracy?
Right now, this is a conspiracy to take me out.
Clearly.
You know, I might as well go for all the conspiracies that are someone gave you the flu and someone else is putting bussions on the board.
Um, but no, but there's a lot of people on the left that would love for me to be dead right now and off the air and not supporting the president, and every effort is afoot.
You know, to whoever's in their underwear in their basement in New Mexico today, monitoring every word I'm saying, hello from all of us on the team.
Guys, say hello to the monitor.
We only hope that they're wearing Tommy John.
Yeah, that's true.
They're an advantage.
At least they'll be in comfort.
What if it's a she?
I don't know.
I guess Victoria's Secret, right?
I some I listen, don't get me started.
I don't know anything about underwear except for I like Tommy John.
I'm not going to get gender specific.
They can wear Tommy John on either side.
It's fine.
Yeah, that's true.
Actually, that is a very good, fair, feminist point, which brings us to one of our guests today is going to be Camille Pagli is back on the program, who I always find interesting.
She's a little Bernie Sanders supporter.
And I'm dying to find out how she feels about, you know, Milo uh and the near riot that broke out in Berkeley, the home of the free speech movement, and Ann Coulter's scheduled speech at Berkeley last night is canceled, and they're still out there complaining and whining.
And you know, what's so bad?
What are they so afraid of that Ann Coulter is going to talk about immigration and enforcing current immigration laws in America?
And maybe that actually engage in a free and open exchange of ideas and ideals and opinions, and maybe they actually might learn something, or they might challenge her, or they might have a vigorous debate, and the people that are there might benefit from hearing both sides of a particular issue.
Well, what's so bad, horrible, dangerous that they've got to shut that down?
And that's what I keep saying.
That's what liberal fascism is.
You know, right around Nancy Pelosi's home and Diane Feinstein's home.
I thought they were real free speech liberals and champions of liberty.
They're not.
If they were, then they would be defending, you know, they would talk, tell all these people, financing these people in their underwear, monitoring talk radio and Fox News 24-7.
They would tell them to stand down, and if you don't like it, tune it out.
Just like I don't watch Bill Mars show.
Just like I don't watch certain programs.
What's that other guy's name?
Trevor Oliver.
Oh, so bad.
I I don't even know how these guys get shows.
Although I do think I want to go to Britain and do a show.
I think it might be fun to do a show there because apparently if we go, can we please do it with Katie Hopkins?
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
She's a she's my like favorite guest rock star now.
She had me in tears the other day.
So the protests are squaring off again in Berkeley after Coulter canceled.
Why do they square it off?
What are they complaining about now?
The most interesting thing going things going on in Washington today is they they can't get their act together.
I am so frustrated.
Words cannot even begin to express my frustration, even beyond Linda annoying me about ordering me, trying to order me, complaining, you know, being obstinate, getting then getting mad at me because I decide to come in and do my own show every day.
And the lower standard that I apply to people that work for me, which is if you don't feel good, don't come in.
I don't apply to myself because I want to lead by example.
And she calls me a hypocrite for that when I'm not hypocrisy if the boss takes a different position and a harder position for himself.
But I'm more frustrated even more than when Linda bugs me over the house being incapable after a hundred days to even get a vote on repealing replacing Obamacare.
Since they ran on this, they did they voted 60 times.
What did I always call them?
Show votes.
They meant nothing.
And when Ted Cruz said, let's stop making it a show vote.
Let's put some teeth in this and let's use our enumerated constitutional power of the purse and let's defund Obamacare.
You know, every Republican went running for the hills rather than uniting with him.
And I'm beginning to think that Republicans, or at least some of the, they don't want to repeal and replace Obamacare.
It's like the dirty little secret.
Now I understand reconciliation.
By the way, most of you don't want to hear about it.
You don't want to learn about it.
You don't need to know about it.
Or the bird rule.
And if you're really up on politics, you already know what reconciliation is, and the bird rule is and a cloture vote.
You get it.
But that's not even the point.
As Byron York was was pointing out in his piece, Dirty Little Secret, you know, that's keeping maybe House Republicans they don't want a full repeal of Obamacare, which is outrageous and disgraceful.
It means that they have been telling us one big lie for all of these years, because two of too many of them, or enough of them actually, favor Obamacare, which is now making it impossible to repeal.
But that's not what all of them ran on.
They all ran on repeal.
You know, so it's becoming clear that if they had wanted it done, they don't even want to sort of repeal Obamacare.
Because the bill currently on the table, you know, falls short of a full repeal of Obamacare.
Now, in fairness, even the 2015 bill did that, and this is where the issues of technical technical difficulties related to the Senate, the passing of the bill reconciliation, you know, having revenue neutral bills when you're appealing in a in a budget bill.
It's it gets a little complicated, but not like they're saying.
You know, but I thought this is what they said they were gonna do.
I thought this is what they all promised.
That's what they said give us the House in 2010, give us the Senate in 2014, give give it to us, we'll get it done.
Now, to me, it's Paul Ryan needs to get his act together.
And if there are Republicans that now refuse to support a bill that is a compromise bill that the Freedom Caucus says is a great first step, and they're not willing to do that.
Well, start naming those Republicans.
I want to know who the obstacles are.
I want to know who's refusing to support this bill, support the president.
The trillion dollars is needed so he can advance his his economic plan, which we need desperately to get Americans back to work and out of poverty and off of food stamps and buying homes again.
You know, back when Tom DeLay was the House majority whip, let me tell you something.
This bolt wouldn't happen.
This crap would never have been tolerated.
Not only would Tom DeLay have twisted arms to get the legislation passed, he would have broken arms if that's what it took to get the jobs done.
Not literally, by the way.
People take things too literal today.
So, and you know, what we need right now is some some serious arm twisting.
And I think the president needs to team up with Ryan if he can find the time.
He doesn't have any sense of urgency, and state loudly and state clearly, you know, by Monday, any member of the GOP, any moderate that still opposes repealing and replacing, considering Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan and Louis Goomert and all these other freedom caucus guys worked with the Tuesday group and the study group and the moderates to get the deal done.
And I think the president should personally and publicly threaten to tweet out their names and campaign against them.
And if the if the speaker won't get his job done, maybe he's not meant for this job.
And Ryan should make clear he won't get a nobody will get a single dime of campaign funding from the Republican Party or the leadership if they don't now get on board as a party and show that they're prepared to leave.
Lead.
If repeal and replace isn't done in the next two weeks, when it may never get done.
And that means Paul Ryan is a failure.
I'll tell you right now, this also means Paul Ryan can kiss his House majority goodbye and his speakership goodbye.
And you can bet your bottom dollar that the newly crowned House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi will commence impeachment hearings against Donald Trump before the ink is dry.
You think I'm overstating the case?
I don't think so.
Now, on the good news side of this, contrary to reports earlier today that 40 to 50 House Republicans now refuse to endorse this replacement.
Mark Meadows is saying, no, that's not true.
And he's saying obviously we'd love to have a vote in the first hundred days, but then he said, I can tell you I was on the phone until 11 o'clock last night, like he's been since the day they pulled the bill the first time.
He says we're only a few short at this moment.
And he says, we're going to work all day today and tomorrow, and he anticipates that they'll have a vote probably next week.
And Meadows pushed back on reports, which the administration first tried to push through the first hundred days that it had fallen apart.
He said that's not true.
He said there wouldn't be many more changes to the bill.
And then he said, I can tell you the president, the vice president are all hands on deck.
This will get done.
It's a matter of weeks, not a matter of months, so I'm very optimistic.
That's what he said the last time.
Now, Democrats, now, I told you by the didn't I say, Linda, that they want to go home for the weekend that there's not going to be a government shutdown?
I told you.
So they did a stopgap measure to get us into next week, and then they'll be debating the continuing resolution next week because now the Democrats are threatening to shut the government down over the issue of Obamacare, considering Republicans caved on the issue of funding the border wall, which was stupid.
They should have just held the line and said, fine, shut it down.
Shut down the government.
You'll blame it.
You'll be blamed for it.
Whole idea of pushing the budget process into the next presidency was we can get some better economic uh plans in place that's going to help the country.
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So fine, my shut the government down, threatening to shut the government down, who's now become the Democratic Party's all-purpose tool to block Republicans from any and everything, especially in this case from implementing Donald Trump's agenda.
Now, earlier this week, congressional Democrats threatened to shut down the government of Republicans wouldn't fund the border wall.
I don't get this because they spent eight years with Obama, scared to death that they're going to get blamed for the shutdown.
They'd threaten and they'd pull back almost immediately.
Oh, it's okay.
Well, sorry, we didn't mean to those don't blame us, please.
And that, you know, poor Ted Cruz got beaten up by his own party.
Oh, we're gonna get crushed in the 2014 election.
Oh, Ted Cruz, look at the filibuster on actually using constitutionally enumerated powers to do something that is worthwhile and keep a promise.
Oh, well, we ended up doing pretty well in that campaign.
And the same Republicans are too weak and timid to support this president.
So now that the Democrats have been empowered, after they threaten to shut down the government, if they Republicans wanted to fund the president's border wall, well, now they're threatening to shut the government down if Republicans dare to repeal Obamacare.
Let them shut it down.
Shut it down.
It's gonna be on their heads.
And it's about time.
When are you guys ever gonna fight for what you believe in?
When are you ever gonna take a stand?
The border wall and Obamacare are two great reasons that Donald Trump was elected.
Take a stand, be bold, be courageous, because your approval ratings really, really cannot get much lower than they are now.
And what you're not understanding, all you weak, timid, spineless Republicans in Washington, what you're not understanding is when you take a stand, when you keep your promises, when you stand for what's right, when you stand up for an 80-20 issue like the border wall, then you will benefit politically.
So being strong, not being timid, having a vision, solving problems, people want solutions, especially because we need Obamacare passed, uh, so that we can take the trillion dollars and move it over to the president's economic plan.
If we want security, we gotta secure the borders.
You know, the Trump President Trump's trying on everything.
Get your act together.
Get some strength, get some courage, get some backbone, make a list of the promises you made, like the president's doing, and fulfill them.
It's not that hard or complicated.
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Uh, this should not surprise you.
Anyway, a new poll sponsored by the University of Virginia, Center for Politics.
Overwhelming number Trump voters agree with this statement that the press is the enemy of the American people.
88%.
Um, I bet, you know, when I remember when I had the uh debate with Ted Koppel, and I'm Ted Coppel, this is lying, and you're bad for America because you're so good at what you do.
Remember the whole thing, I'm like, Ted, you don't you sell the American people short.
Most people, and I know most of you in this audience know your intelligence is being insulted.
You know instinctively, you see you've been, it's almost like once you you your mind opens up, you become hip to the bias that exists out there.
In other words, it's like you you might believe, um, let me see.
You maybe on NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams.
We start tonight, Joe, or you know, for a while you believe all that's real.
You believe these guys are infallible.
You believe these guys are not biased.
You believe that these guys are honest and truthful and fair and they're balanced.
And then you begin to see Dan Rather and the whole document fraud extravaganza that led to his firing.
Oh, Dan Rather's a liberal, although most of us knew that ahead of time.
Same with all these other major networks.
And the same with CNN, and the same with MSNBC.
You know, that's why I I'm trying to, I'm trying, not for selfish reasons here.
And I really mean that.
It may it may seem self-serving, but I'm trying to also make everybody aware of what the conditions are.
I think I'm the only one that talks about it.
I don't I have not heard, although may look, I don't listen enough to other people.
I just try and be myself every day to know, but I know all of my colleagues know this.
I don't know if they talk about it.
I know everybody, the Fox News channel knows it.
I mean, I think most of you by now know what media matters is all about.
They they want to silence conservative voices.
And they take words and phrases constantly out of context.
And they may they blow it up into be something that it's not.
And if they get the right word sentence phrase, then they begin the full, all right, let's go after the advertisers.
That's just a roundabout way of stopping support.
Well, maybe they don't do this.
They'll list this advertiser is now pulled from X show.
And what all they're doing is they're ratcheting up the pressure so they know that they'll put financial pressure on a on a particular show and a particular owner in a particular network, and and eventually they know that all of these networks and all of these broadcasting mediums are financially have to remain financially viable, and some of them may think about cutting their losses and firing a talent over controversy.
And it's like we we're monitored every hour of every single day, every minute, every second of every day that I'm on the air.
And it's me and every conservative talk show host, other host that you listen.
In many cases, even your your local hosts now are being monitored by these people.
These people are well funded, they're paid, they're in their basements, they're in their underwear, and they're paid to monitor every show.
And the same with everything that's done and said on Fox News.
And if you think I'm kidding and you think I'm overstating it, and you think I'm conspiratorial and you think I'm paranoid over what they're trying to do with the Fox News channel, just look at what happened last Friday to me, two days after Bill O'Reilly and the network parted ways.
And, you know, a false accusation that's that supposedly happened in 2003 or four, whenever it was.
It had never been stated before.
And then you look at a media that took the charge of one individual, a false allegation, completely made up on every level.
And they took this and ran with this.
They didn't even print the year that this supposedly had happened.
Linda thinks it's 2003.
I think 2004.
And they just ran with it.
They didn't do a rudimentary background check on the individual.
Because if they would have, they would have noticed, oh, there's a 12, 13, 14-year history of her slandering Sean Hannity and proven to be lying about Sean Hannity.
It didn't stop them.
And, you know, so I I get my name, my reputation smeared, slandered, besmirched, you know, raked over the coals on in basically every website, every news site, every news channel, every radio station, every TV station in the country on every network.
Just get the crap beat out of me because they didn't take the time to do a rudimentary, simple, basic, fundamental background check, not even a Google search or Yahoo search or something.
So you want to know why 88% of voters agree that the media is the enemy of the American people because they're not honest.
What they did in this last week to me was not honest.
It was not fair.
And frankly, I think it's they basically were co-conspirators and slander.
Does the media have any obligation to do any background check at all?
Or they can take one source that's not credible and use it.
This is a media.
This isn't the National Inquirer or the Star Magazine.
By the way, National Inquiry has been right sometimes, a lot of times, actually.
This is not a tabloid.
This is not a gossip column.
This is news, supposed news.
And they take the word of one individual, not multiple sources, one.
They take the that person's word, go after a well-known conservative, and try and this if you don't see this for what it was, this was the kill shot.
This was we got O'Reilly, let's get Hannity.
Oh, this is great.
Let's get Hannity.
Let's take Hannity out.
Two days after O'Reilly's gone.
That's bad.
The fact that they didn't do a simple Google search.
I think they committed crimes myself.
I think they have a basic obligation, a legal obligation to do the most fundamental, basic, rudimentary type of type of research and and corroboration before they slander somebody's reputation.
I have a team of lawyers, I have a team of investigators.
I'm not letting this go.
I am not letting it go.
You know, if I didn't have, you know, I started out my life with no money.
I'm not in that position anymore.
But if I didn't have the financing to be able to hire these big name lawyers that I've hired, these very expensive Israeli investigators that I've hired, the best at the business, these are the best of the best.
I they might have won.
Because I didn't have anybody really, a lot of people, some people behind the scenes.
I will say this the people that most defended me were people on social media.
My irredeemable, deplorable friends, the let not your heart be troubled, Twitter Army Brigade, they came to my defense.
Now, the people that work with me, you know, you guys had a particularly tough week, didn't you?
I mean, now I'm not trying to drag you into this, by the way.
Do you want to get dragged into this?
Um, why are you laughing at me like that?
I'm not laughing at you.
I mean, I think uh every You were you were more upset.
I think everyone in here is pretty angry.
Oh, yeah, you were angry.
Well, I know her, and I've been through this before, so I I'm really angry.
Well, my whole family knows this.
But I think you know, and you know, imagine this.
You gotta understand something here.
You know, when my you know my niece Cassie.
Now she knows now.
My niece went to Notre Dame.
She went to medical school, she lives in Houston, she's a she's a doctor, O B G Y N. When my poor niece writes me, and you know Cassie, I mean, she got a heart of gold.
She is, I mean, she went for every summer in high school for that um what's the name of that doctor's group where they do operations?
Um, I don't I don't remember the group, so I don't want to give the wrong group.
Anyway, she would spend her summers, and it made her want to become a doctor just for that reason and help people, and she's a special girl.
But when she writes me, all she wrote me the first thing this week was in the middle of this, Uncle Sean, I love you.
She she doesn't know, she's not media savvy like all of us in this room here.
Well, you're in the other room.
You know, you know what I mean?
She does see all she sees is the sexual harasser headline.
And she writes me, and she's devastated.
Then she has to explain to her friends, and she actually explained to her husband, and she has to explain to her in-laws that her uncle is not a sh uh uh a dirtbag.
Or my son, who's at college, sees an article, or people are sending it to him.
Isn't it nice?
You have friends that send them articles about that.
And my son writing me, I love you, Dad.
I know it's not true.
Are you okay?
It's you know, so it's hard for people that don't live in my world in our world.
And you get the same thing.
Are you getting the same types of responses from people like I am?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, everybody's very supportive and outraged.
And yeah, but what's the help?
But there's a group of people that don't understand that this is a game that people play of killing people.
This is normal.
You know, and I've tried I try to explain it to my son and daughter this week that you know I've kept I have, and you gotta be proud of me.
For most of my career, I have kept them out of this mess.
I have been, I don't know how, but thank God they've been interested in other things than their dad's career.
Thank God that they they have other interests.
You know, I my kids have been to my TV show less than anybody, and it's like they'll come with their friends because their friends or their friends' fathers and mothers are fans of the show, so then they're stuck coming then.
And in the case of my son, he'll spend the entire hour not paying attention to one word that's said, but running around the studio making me throw the football to him.
That's the entire hour.
And my daughter will find a way to run around and find the makeup uh the wonderful makeup people and hair people I work with, and she'll come out a stunning news anchor by the end of the hour.
Just, you know, they're not sitting there watching their dad thinking, oh, this is the greatest thing on earth.
That's all they have known growing up, but they haven't known the the dark side of this because I don't go home and tell anybody.
I don't bring all this home.
I don't bring home what was said to me on on this website or that website.
And I didn't never want to, I chose this life.
I don't want to drag them into it.
I listen, I did I get it, it's part of the job.
You're I dish it out four hours a day every day.
But here's the question, and you know, you know who the team of lawyers is, Linda.
Here's my question.
Because we agree and feel that the media in particular that ran with their cheap headline, no background at all whatsoever, that they had a rudimentary and fundamental responsibility to their viewers,
listeners, readers, and to me to do a rudimentary, fundamental, basic, simple, even a Google search would have done, and they didn't even do that.
Do you think legally they have culpability?
Absolutely.
That's what my lawyers think.
And that's what I think.
They're good lawyers.
Oh, all right, on a scale of one to ten, rate them all.
There's no scale for them.
There's no scale for that.
When it gets announced, and we're gonna get to it.
We're we're we're dotting our i's and crossing our T's, and we're gonna do it right.
We're not gonna rush.
When people find out this team, what do you think the reaction is gonna be?
Run.
Run for your lives.
Yeah, exactly.
So I I think there's something in play here.
And everybody thinks that I stopped talking about it.
Well, it's going away.
Oh, I've not stopped.
Ooh, no, I have not stopped, and you know I haven't stopped.
You know, the media earning poor marks from Americans.
New another new poll, 51% of Americans said the national political media is out of touch with everyday Americans.
Twenty-eight percent of it, it understands the issue of everyday America.
I don't know who the 28% are.
They clearly voted for Hillary.
New York Times editor won't use the term female genital mutilation, culturally loaded and divides people.
Wow, that's evil in our time.
We can't stand up for women that are brutally mutilated like that.
By the way, MBC found a Trump voter with buyer's remorse.
Happen to be a Democrat, by the way.
NBC News president says MBC News is objective journalism.
MSNBC is informed opinion.
Wow, if they believe that, that's pretty interesting.
You know, you compare the New York Times and how they felt about government shutdowns in uh 2013, the GOP's fault.
In 2017, it's Trump's fault.
Of course, because they're Democrats.
Scott Pelley, by the way, according to newsbusters, the most anti-Trump anchor on TV news.
Um, by the way, leftists have been paid.
That was a good thing.
Anyway, we'll get to all of this today.
And we've got Camille Paglia coming up in the course of the program.
We've got Congressman Babbin.
We have an update on surveillance and a letter that was sent to Jeff Sessions that we should maybe be investigating Susan Rice for the unmasking of people.
We'll get to that.
800 941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
It's 800 941 Sean.
If you want to join us, Camille Paglia coming up at the top of the next hour, talk to her about liberal fascism and what's going on, no free speech, college campuses, the attempts to silence every conservative in America today.
Shocking congressmen and women want to go home for the weekend.
So they'll punt and they'll get back to the issue of the continuing resolution next week.
Republicans, the leadership cannot get their act together on health care, even though all but one Freedom Caucus member in working in conjunction with the Tuesday group and the study group has the bill done.
There's going to be a real serious question raised in the next week or two about House leadership if this doesn't get done.
We also have an update.
Now Brian Babin, Congressman from the great state of Texas, asked the Attorney General, Jeff Sessions, to investigate Susan Rice.
We talked about surveilling unmasking and intelligence leaking.
Finally, somebody is saying, hey, what about Susan Rice's admitted unmasking of Trump AIDS?
So they made their first public inquiry into opening an investigation as it relates to these reports that the Obama administration's National Security Advisor, Susan Rice and others unmasked several Trump campaign officials that were swept up in the U.S. surveillance operations against foreign targets during last year's presidential election campaign.
And uh Congressman Babin is with us now.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing great, Sean.
Great to be with you again.
Well, didn't we learn towards the end of our investigation here that in fact there was direct surveillance of Americans, which would be a violation of their Fourth Amendment protections, constitutional protections against unreasonable search and seizure when it was not connected in any way to any foreign entity?
Did that happen, sir?
It certainly looks that way.
And uh, you know, until we do get a a full uh and and uh independent investigation, and I say independent because uh it could very uh possibly be a lot more than just Susan Rice and some may still be uh federal employees.
Uh so uh, you know, it just ha it just doesn't pass the smell test, Sean.
There needs to be a full thorough investigation and it needs to be immediate.
And I will say this I've I've gotten a personal note back from the attorney general himself, uh thanking me for the letter and understanding my concerns, and uh so I feel very I feel very good about this.
Well, I was watching him in an interview this morning, he says he won't confirm or deny, which is policy the even the existence of a a potential investigation in this particular case.
But um, if if we in fact had the surveillance, the unmasking of a political opposition party in the middle of a presidential campaign, and the national security advisor and maybe the CIA director, and maybe people like Ben Rhodes, and maybe even the president himself had knowledge of this.
Wouldn't that be on a scale like a thousand times bigger than Watergate?
You're reading my mind.
I mean, it makes Watergate look like uh recess in kindergarten.
Uh especially if when you have uh federal employees and in positions of authority working right under the president of the United States, abusing their privileges, and uh quite frankly, uh, you know, I think that uh I don't care whether you're your whatever your position is,
small or mighty, uh when you when you risk Americans and you uh abuse your privileges, then then you are absolutely uh you know, just just in other words, taking the the Constitution and our civil rights uh and inverting them, perverting them, I sh I think is a better word.
And uh these people need to be called to account if they're found guilty.
Uh then they need to be uh prosecuted.
And I heard the the the attorney general himself on Fox News as a matter of fact, it's been about a couple of three weeks ago saying that he was this absolute quote absolutely this leaking must stop, and it's not going to stop until we have some some uh uh prosecutions.
And so that was why that was actually the incentive for me to write him a letter.
And uh I feel I feel very strongly that of course he's not gonna mention anything, I don't believe uh about an ongoing investigation but I feel uh you know confident that we're going to see uh some action here.
Do you believe based on what you know now that there was widespread surveillance for political purposes of Donald Trump's campaign.
It it it smells of that, Sean.
I cannot, you know I I I'm a I'm a colleague with uh with the Intel uh committee uh uh uh Chairman Nunes uh I I can't say anything you know on the uh in this interview or anything like that but I can tell you that it looks awful bad uh when you have this type of thing going on and and it started with General Flynn uh that was the first uh evidence that we saw uh where they absolutely went after him and and uh cost him his job now I'm not
going to get involved in in what he said or didn't say to the to the vice president but uh wasn't he vetted by the Obama administration and get a security clearance through them?
You would think so absolutely.
And uh what they're what it it it looks like what they did was just to to listen in, surveil and then unmask these people and that is a that is a felony.
They are not supposed to take private uh citizens and uh and unmass them and expose their names to the public.
Uh and and anyone who's found doing that I think needs to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and uh that was what my letter was all about and I feel very strongly about this.
This is this is worse than Watergate ever was and uh these responsible parties need to be called to account.
Can you update us about the stopgap measure uh as it relates to the CR and and why is there this inordinate fear among Republicans, your colleagues that they're gonna get blamed for a government shutdown.
You know I thought the idea was to push the budget into this year so that with a Republican president we might have the opportunity to actually do a real good budget.
Well we still might have that opportunity and I'm hoping so because this is only a very short term CR and uh y you know there's some stuff in here that I I have a problem with but you know Sean uh my last session when I f when I first came to to Congress I used to I used to wake up in the morning and uh uh anything that I could do uh any way that I could stop what this socialist agenda was of the uh President Obama I was I was willing to do.
But now we've got a president in there uh that I've really worked hard to and campaign for uh and he is an agenda which is almost identical to mine and so you know I I am I am more willing to uh kind of ride with him uh on on CRs just so we can get get through his agenda.
That's why I was so very disappointed we could not uh pass the uh the Health Care Act so we could get on to tax reform and get on to reg reform and everything else.
Because the man is he's being criticized constantly about his first hundred days being a disaster.
Well I would remind the folks out there that he's signed more uh bills in the legisl and into law than any other president in the last uh fifty years and uh he is an uh he has signed twenty five executive orders he's put uh helped put five hundred thousand people back to work in the United States of America even before he was doing it even before he took office uh we got a we got a uh U.S. Supreme Court uh justice confirmed for the uh in the first hundred days and that hasn't happened since eighteen eighty one.
So I think he's had a he's got a great report card and that's why I'm willing uh to let's see let's let's give the guy a chance uh that was one one reason I I voted for this CR and uh I want to see some things done.
I think this this country's been going in the wrong direction for eight solid years and this uh president we got to give him a chance.
What is wrong with the Republicans after eight years of saying they're gonna repeal and replace Obamacare they can't get it done.
What what you know why not why wasn't there consensus built beforehand?
Why wasn't the bill written beforehand?
Did you see the bill before they released the bill?
I did not I did not first time that I heard about the problems with the bill was uh when uh uh Chairman Mark Walker uh I'm a member of RSC, the Republican Study Committee as well and uh he had some real problems with it when that when it was leaked and so uh I was absolutely a no on the bill until I got to meet with the President,
the vice president, and actually I continue to be a no, and I got a personal phone call from President Trump, and he made what I thought were some great conservative concessions to me and several others that were having problems.
Well, every Freedom Caucus member but one is now signed off on the bill.
That's exactly right, and now we've got moderate Republicans who have problems with it, and you know, every one of us, there's 237 of us in the Republican conference, which we all represent different types of districts some some more moderate some more conservative but we all ran to to repeal and reform Obamacare.
So I would hope that these holdouts now would really do some introspection, some soul searching and like you Sean, we should have had the our ducks in a row and uh we've got to get this thing passed so uh because we've got to get hundreds of billions of dollars out of out of uh repealing Obamacare and plow it right a trillion dollars right that's right it's it's uh between eight hundred billion and a trillion what is the la is there anything that you see any other obstacles are the Republicans going to learn their lesson
in as much as they're gonna let people read the bills before they release them will they build a consensus bill and not put the public and the president and the country through the the painful uh debate public debate that they had over health care are they gonna learn anything from this?
I I certainly hope so uh this is this this should be a great lesson to all of us.
Uh when I ran for Congress uh that was the number one issue.
That was in twenty fourteen and I'm a a health care provider.
I'm a dentist and uh that was the biggest issue we had in 2014 uh to repeal and replace it with something that would give give America freedom and choice and market forces to enable us to to have uh to return to to the great health care we've known in the past and and even improve it.
Yeah so well I got to run here Congressman I appreciate you updating us on on all of this stuff.
Congressman Babbin of uh Texas thank you so much for being with us 800 nine four one Sean is a toll free telephone number you want news roundup information overload coming up in the next hour.
Camille Paglia joins us let's get to our phones in the meantime we got Jose is in Miami Jose on WIOD what's going on sir how are you?
Pretty good Sean how you doing I'm good what's going on.
Hey you know it's like deja vu all over again during Obama's term the Republicans were craving spineless and gutless now that they have the White House they're still craving spineless and gutless what is it with the Republicans?
I I can't answer it.
I mean I can't excuse it.
It's inexcusable they were ill prepared for the moment and to lead and you know comparing and contrasting the president is you know moving at the speed of light the speed of Trump.
He's checking off his list.
He's keeping his promises even laying out you know future bills, getting everything in in place to get finished and you know these guys are so weak and so feckless and and lacking any such urgency that the rest of us have in life it is beyond frustrating.
Look I'm telling you right now and the polls show this they keep this up there is going to be it's not a if it's when the public is going to pop.
They're going to be furious.
You know Congress's approval rating now is what?
12%.
You just it's gonna be two percent by the time this is all said and done if they don't get their act together.
There's no more excuses.
You know now you've got you got every Freedom Caucus member that worked Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan on this program this week they work with the study group.
They work with the Tuesday group they work with the moderates.
There's no urgency in leadership they can't seem to get the job done.
Now if all these moderates are so supportive of Paul Ryan well they better understand Paul Ryan's job is now in jeopardy if this keeps up just a fact I'm just I'm stating fact here.
Reality B the people will start demanding that they get a new speaker they get new leadership and they they get a sense of purpose uh rather than what we've seen in the last hundred days the gang that can't shoot straight.
And I appreciate the call it's the only thing I can tell you oh my buddy Steve Ronnebeck is on he was on earlier this week.
We were talking about his son Grant who was killed he's a 21 year old brave American great kid working overnight in a Mesa Arizona convenience store and his son was killed by an illegal immigrant that had already been convicted of kidnapping and holding hostage a woman for a week thoughts and prayers always remain with you Steve.
We admire your courage and your fight what's going on?
Hey Sean thanks for having me you know our our uh conversation the other day um and I appreciate the fact that you let me and Andy Biggs come on your show but you and I had had a conversation about the new voice office.
Um you know I just wanted to I I just wanted to tell you what's going on something that's come up uh Yesterday, I I got uh a lot of us got a message from from uh the new voice office that uh some of the liberal media and some of these liberal activist groups have uh taken to Twitter to incite people to prank call the new voice hotline.
Are you the are you serious for the victims of crimes by illegal immigrants?
They want to prank call it.
They spent all day yesterday prank calling the new voice hotline, so they pretty much tied up the lines so that actual victims couldn't get through.
Well, I have a good idea because I mean the government has the ability if we're gonna use our NSA for nefarious purposes.
Well, let's say those people that are trying to clog up the lines and obstruct justice for individuals.
Uh maybe we'll find out who they are, and maybe they shouldn't get a call from the government and say, Oh, if you're not really a victim, why would you be so mean to the families of victims of crime and and obstruct an investigation and obstruct the opportunity to help people?
I don't know.
There might be something there.
We we might be able to uh there might be wiretapping laws or or some type of laws that that might be applicable here.
I'll have to ask an attorney.
Yeah, I mean, you know, m there's uh a woman named Pam Campos that works for the uh common defense fund that uh basically is calling this new new uh hotline a uh xenophobic registry.
Um, you know uh you know what's sad about this?
They they have no idea what your life has been like since you lost your son, Grant, a few years ago.
They have no idea what it's like to live with the pain that you have lived with now for all of these years.
In anybody that can be that lacking in empathy and that psychotic and sociopathic, you know what?
I have I have no sympathy for sick, twisted, miserable people like this.
None whatsoever.
You you're almost without a heart.
Now, my best advice for you, and and we'll keep on this.
If this continues, we'll figure out a way to be able to bypass those people that are responsible for this.
But I I'm up on a break here, Steve.
You're in my prayers, as is your son and your family.
Thank you, sir, for updating us.
We'll st up I'll continue to stay on this, I promise.
All right, Camille Paglia is next.
News Roundup Information Overload and more of your call straight ahead.
And uh, in light of the president finally keeping promises to vets yesterday, which again go down his checklist of promises he's keeping, everything he can do on his own, he is getting done.
And we've got to give him credit for uh all of that.
And he was able to order an executive order to hold VA employees finally accountable.
What we have done with our nation's vets is nothing short of a national disgrace.
The executive order can uh created an office of accountability and whistleblower protection at the Department of Veteran Affairs that establishes specific online uh ability that identifies barriers preventing the VA from firing employees who are not performing.
You know, think of what they've done here.
We've had veterans die waiting to get the care and the coverage that we promised them that they would get.
They'd have two lists.
There's a case I remember uh this one was out in Arizona.
They called the family and said, Oh, it's uh we're ready for you now.
And it was a year later, and the guy had died waiting for the care that the nation promised those that went to fight bleed for us.
It's unbelievable.
Anyway, beautiful touching song.
All right, 800 941 Sean Tolfrey telephone number.
You want to be a part of the program.
All right, as promised, let's get into uh our busy phones here.
Want to take a lot of calls.
Ellie is in Louisiana.
Ellie, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Thanks.
Thanks.
I need to talk to Dr. Sean.
Uh-oh, Dr. Hannity, what's uh Dr. Hannity is back in the house.
Do we have still have that introduction, Jason?
I think we got an introduction.
If you it's for people that need help insight, sort of like that friend next door having a beer or a cup of coffee, and you gotta unload something.
This is the place to be.
It's called the Dak Dr. Hannity's office.
Doctor Doctor!
Give me the news, I got it.
In Midtown Manhattan.
The doctor is in.
That's right.
Dr. Hannity's ready to help you with your relationships, your politics, anything you want to talk about.
All right, I always say let not your heart be trouble.
All right, Ellie in Louisiana, what Is it I can do for you?
The phony doctor is in the house.
What's going on?
I only play one on radio.
Then I'll do the I'll do the phony crying.
Well, it's like this, Dr. Hannity.
No, I'm just kidding.
Um, I honestly my heart just dropped.
I didn't I didn't know who I thought you had me.
Go ahead.
Well, I thought I'd do the crazy crying if you're gonna do the crazy doctor.
All right, so I'll tell you a story recently.
There were two women at work that I love and adore, and they work in the makeup and hair department.
And on two different days within two weeks, they were both crying.
You know, for different reasons.
You know, one has an elderly parent, uh the the other's was sick, and her father was sick, and they're both upset.
So I said, I you gotta stop crying.
Please, please, please.
And in each case, I pulled out a hundred dollars.
They said, This is fun money, go have fun and and go take whatever's bothering you off your mind.
Now every day I walk in the the makeup and hair department, and they're wonderful people, and they all start phony crying, say, Oh, I'm so upset.
And I'm like, All right, I got it.
Thank you.
I made a I'm setting a bad precedent here trying to be nice.
Anyway, what's going on?
Okay, Dr. Hannity, well, it's my birthday, and you can still send me the hundred dollars of the city.
What's wrong?
What's on your heart today?
What could I do?
A crazy sister who lives in Colorado.
Mm-hmm.
She has not talked to us since November.
She said she couldn't talk to any of us because we were a bunch of bigots over here in the East.
And she couldn't, she couldn't have conversation with she talked my mother since, but I I'm thinking, really?
You're gonna throw away 40 years of uh family over an election for a bad person that you wanted to vote for.
I I gotta be honest, this is not this is not the only instance of this.
I've been told this is this is happening in a lot of places.
Um how close were you to your sister?
How close were you to her?
Well, I used to talk to her every week.
She always wanted us to visit, and you know, I couldn't we couldn't get out there.
My other sister went, and she said, Nobody comes to visit.
And I said, Well, you know, what happened with Marie?
She drove drove her and her husband out there.
Did that not count for anything?
Well, number one, uh, you have a great sense of humor about it.
I mean, this is really her problem and not yours.
I mean, like, for example, you didn't abandon her when Obama was president.
She's abandoning you because she doesn't like your politics.
And that shows a level of, well, la little bit unbalanced and unhinged there.
You know, sounds like a snowflake liberal in the case of your family, but what I would do is this.
You want my real I'm gonna give you real heartfelt advice.
I'd reach out to your sister, write her a heartfelt letter, and say, Okay, it's X number of days since the election.
I have not heard from you.
Uh you don't want to be a part of our lives, apparently, because you don't like where we stand politically.
I personally am not backing down my political opinions, but why would you allow politics to get in the way of a loving family?
And then I would just leave it in her hand, say, look, I will respect your wishes.
I won't be bothering you.
I won't be begging you to be my sister again, but I'm always here from you as soon as you want to grow up and re-establish the relationship.
How's that?
That is so good.
Right?
I'm good, right?
Blessed are the peacemakers.
You ought to create postcards.
I'm I'm telling you.
Oh my gosh.
You know what?
I'll tell you what else we're gonna do.
Linda, what could we send out to her sister?
No, we should send it to her.
I don't want to send anything to your side.
Yeah, I don't want to send anything to your cranky sister.
I mean, she sounds mean.
Ellie sounds like the one who deserves it.
Sending to her because she just does it well.
Yeah, well, I'm not gonna send it.
She thinks that I don't have a brain because I only listen to you.
Oh, wait a minute.
I got a great idea.
Linda, what are we gonna send?
I got a great idea.
Linda, what are we gonna send?
I think I think that we should send a football.
Okay.
And I think that we should send uh a Trump pen, maybe several.
Okay, all right.
This is what we're gonna do.
I am going to send an autograph football and book to your sister and a Trump pen, the talking Trump pen, and I'm gonna say, you know, stop being mean to your sister.
And start listening to the president.
And I said, and she'll be able to with the pen.
And then I'll send it to you because you'll actually like it.
All right, so I'm gonna send all of that to your sister.
Stop being mean to your family.
And then probably I've just ruined the relationship forever, but that's her problem.
It's not your problem.
Listen, I am not gonna beg anybody in my life to like me.
I mean, for example, Linda Love hates me.
Before the show today, I said something to her that annoyed the living daylights out of her, and she's had uh a sour look on her face ever since the show started.
Yesterday she aggravated me.
So is that true, Linda?
I think I look great right now.
I don't know.
I mean, what do you guys think in the studio?
Do I do I look angry?
She's never looked better.
Okay, all right.
The people in stitches, she's got them wrapped around her fingers.
I cannot count on them.
They don't work for me in their minds.
They work for the city.
these people are larger than life.
They don't fit around my finger.
Okay.
Your sickness is eroding your brain.
That's what's happening.
Okay.
Everybody in there is turned on the bosses.
You can see I have no control of my staff.
And what's that, boss?
I thought she was the boss.
You're on thin ice here.
You.
You're the latest thing.
You're the first to go.
Just so you can.
It depends on the problem.
Then we figure out who the boss is.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, but if like when they screw up, they go run into mama and she protects them and it's ridiculous.
And then I'll say to her, All right, who screwed this up?
And she'll say, uh, I did.
And meanwhile, it's not her job.
I say, I know it's not you.
Who are you protecting?
I did.
Don't you don't need to worry about it.
I fixed it.
That's what she says.
Then I'll start asking again.
It's on a need to know basis.
That's right, Ellie.
Okay, but why don't I get to know it's my show?
I'm the boss.
Because when I fix things for you, it's on a need to know basis for other people.
So you know what?
You know what that sounds like when I fix things for you.
Like when I fix you tea and honey, and then you toss it into a trash can like it's nothing.
Well, because I didn't like the tea and honey because it tasted horrible.
All right, so stay on the line.
We're gonna take care of you.
We appreciate it.
Uh oh, Linda, did you see what Velma put up there on Twitter yesterday?
I did not.
Okay.
I retweeted it.
I wanted to cry.
We maybe later in the show.
I gotta talk to Velma.
Uh you know me, I never cry.
I'm a heartless, miserable conservative.
I'm just not a crier.
It's not me.
Oh, I see it now.
I see it now.
It just it just it stopped me in my tracks.
And she changed her Twitter picture to you and her.
I know I know.
It's pretty cute, right?
I listen, I wish you would have I that could have been my prom date, and she wouldn't go with me.
Um, we got to take a quick break.
We'll come back with news roundup information overload.
Our Friday Florida Georgia Line concert series continues.
Put you in a good mood after a pretty tough week.
The final hour of the Sean Hannity show is up next.
Hang on for Sean's conservative solutions.
All right, let's get back to our busy telephones.
Josh is in Lynchburg, Virginia, the home of Liberty University, where Donald Trump will be the commencement speaker.
What's up, Josh?
How are you?
I'm doing good, Sean.
Thanks for asking.
Did you go to Liberty or what?
Um, Virginia Tech, really.
Great school.
What's going on?
Uh just wanna ask a lot of seniors uh coming out, doctoral students, PhDs, all the sorts of people graduating, and um we're just looking for some advice, you know, to go out there besides our commencement speakers, which are gonna be good.
Um, I think I'm not gonna be able to go to LU uh graduation, so I just want to hear what you have to say as a conservative thinker.
All right, well, what did you get your degree in?
Uh it would be English and professional and technical writing.
Okay, and this is a a bachelor's, master's, doctor.
Okay.
Um, and you're not gonna go further, you're not going further in your education process, you don't think now.
No, I'm I'm a lifelong learner.
Um, so far as I can say, uh, if I'm gonna go any further, I'd rather start off just going to work.
And if it happens, I need more education, I'll be right back.
Here's the first most important question.
What are you most interested in?
What what kind of you know remember when you do a profession or a job, and by the way, this being your first job, it doesn't have to be the right one right away, but what what you know what would make you happy to get up in the morning, get up and go to work?
Um, my my happiness comes from communicating ideas from engineers and scientists and bringing them out to the public, making things easy for regular people to understand.
So you're like the bridge.
I kind of feel like I do the same thing.
I'm the bridge between uh Washington and reconciliation bills and the bird rule and cloture, and I have to bring it down to brass tax for them and for for the for the people and for those idiots in Congress who need to be reminded that most people have no idea what reconciliation is.
Um, my best advice to you is try those companies that you most admire.
Try, don't worry about the money in the beginning.
I never cared about money ever in my career, ever.
I never really thought I had ever have a chance of making it when I got into radio.
I just know I wanted to be at a radio station.
And just, you know, the the other second biggest thing I'm gonna tell you is you've gotta be willing in life to take chances.
You gotta stand on a high dive.
Are you afraid of heights at all?
No, I've been diving off high things for a long time.
Okay.
What you what is one thing that fears you do, you fear speaking in public?
No, I don't I don't fear speaking in public.
What is give me a fear you had?
Do you fear asking our girl out on a date?
No, I I don't fear that.
Do you have any fear in life at all?
Are you just perfect?
You're just the courageous.
I'm not perfect.
I fear the uh inability to deliver exactly what they want.
And um it's good because the fear of failures are great motivation.
Here's my advice.
Take chances.
Get on that high dive like you've been doing your whole life and don't be afraid to jump.
Maybe it's your own business.
Maybe it's a consulting business.
Maybe it's a bigger company that you thought you'd never have any chance at.
And go dazzle them.
And always underpromise and overdeliver.
All right, I got a roll.
Appreciate your call.
Camille Paglia.
She'll put a smile on her face when we get back on this Friday edition and our Friday Florida Georgia Line concert series coming up in the next hour.
And to our detractors that insist that this march will never add up to anything.
You're angry.
Yes, I am outraged.
Yes.
I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.
I am a nasty woman.
I'm nasty.
Like my bloodstains on my bed sheet.
Why are tampons and pads still taxed when Viagra and Rogain are not is your erection?
Really more than protecting the sacred messy part of my womanhood is the bloodstain on my jeans.
More embarrassing than the shining of your hair.
Deep for borders!
We see this in demonstrations in the very before.
The feeling is that the property damage, whatever it may be, is less is less costly than anybody getting hurt.
And so the police repeatly in situations like this, take the tactic of standing back and hoping it's going to diffuse.
What happens here remains to be seen.
But this is we've seen this before in the bear.
The police are behind.
They're not confronting the demonstrators.
We're not trying to stop them, at least they have this section.
I cannot believe this is happening.
I'm literally about to kill myself that I'm not a kidding.
You better fix this right now.
I literally am gonna die.
I need an ambulance.
Alright, news round up information overload hour here on the Sean Hannity Show, 800 94.
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So here it is the hundred-day mark, a hundred days of FUs and walls around vaginas and vagina hats and blowing up the White House and Nama Nasty Woman and protesting in sanctuary cities and obstruction and hysteria.
And then of course, culminating last night with sh silencing yet another conservative, this one being Ann Coulter at Berkeley, the home of the free speech movement.
Joining us now is our friend Camille Paglio, author of the brand new book.
It's up on Hannity.com, Free Women, Free Men, Sex, Gender, Feminism.
Now you are a feminist, right?
Oh, yes, I but I identify more with first wave feminism, which did not indulge in all this vile mail bashing and victimization.
I I think you know, I think the women's movement is going very astray here.
We need to get back to uh the original principles of feminism, which is about empowering women, not uh donning this mask of victimhood and blaming men for all the problems in the universe.
Yeah, you know, here's a bizarre question.
For example, in my life, I have a son and I have a daughter.
And stay with me here.
Is it feminist of me or or first generation feminism?
Because I give my my son and my daughter the exact same opportunities in life, the exact same speeches about they were born with talent and ability, and their job is to work hard, find their passion, find their talent, find their ability, and bring it to fruition and eventually serve other people.
Uh is that a little bit first generation feminism that I treat my son and my daughter exactly the same?
No, I I think that's exactly right.
I mean women have to step up to the plate and stop asking for special protections.
It's all this whining and screaming and this uh this emotionalism.
Okay, that way and then and then women wonder why are they not being taken seriously in the workplace and and promoted to high positions of power?
You know, get your act together.
Okay, all of this the stuff that Madonna was doing.
I mean, I admire Madonna as an artist, but but this is embarrassing.
Okay, this this kind of stuff is just uh put it setting feminism back.
Yeah, and and to me it it's actually hurting the movement.
And if anything, you know, with all the obstruction and all the protests and all the hysteria and all the crying and all the screaming and all the name calling, I don't hear uh any solutions and there's real, real suffering going on in America.
Uh, you know, I I'm a broken record, Camille.
I I talk I talk about because I care about 95 million Americans out of the labor force, fifty million in poverty, fifty million on food stamps.
Real people, real lives, real suffering, real problems that really need to be solved.
I don't hear any solutions coming from the left side of the aisle at all at this point.
Yes, I I'm embarrassed.
I I I'm a supporter of Bernie Sanders.
I'm a I democrat.
I voted for Jill Stein in this election.
Okay, but how did I become friends with you?
This is almost like ridiculous.
Uh but I'm I'm appalled, okay, by the way.
All right, that's why you just saved yourself.
Go ahead.
I'm appalled by the navel gazing, okay, that's going on.
It's absolutely true, okay, that unfortunately our public school education system as well as uh higher education, okay, have strayed from presenting world history, okay, world geography, economics, okay, to our young people.
So everything is emotion, everything is looking around us in the media present, seeing defects in the freest country ever created in the history of the world, right?
And and and somehow portraying Western civilization as a source of oppression rather than liberation of the individual, creation of free thought, free speech rights, right?
So I mean, I think we have just this this ignorance and that's now extended even to the faculty.
And I speak as a as a faculty member uh teaching in the classroom for 46 years.
You know, the great irony here is that Berkeley was supposed to be the home of the free speech movement and and attempts to allow communist professors to have a right to express their views on a college campus.
But you know, the same location now, look what happened at a near riot breaks out when Milo Yannopoulos uh tries to speak at the Berkeley campus.
You saw what was unfolding this week with Ann Coulter.
What is your reaction to all of that?
Well, the uh the free speech movement l led by Mario Savio uh occurred in spring nineteen sixty-four, where I entered college that fall.
Nothing was more inspiring to me.
I am humiliated, okay, by the the behavior, okay, of Berkeley, Jenna Napolitano, okay, the who is who is the president of the University of California said nothing, okay, to that to that fascist outbreak in the streets.
I'm not a supporter of Milo particularly, okay.
But that was an outrage.
The police did nothing to it was like crystal knocked, for heaven's sakes.
It's an absolute outrage.
And the in the in the Senator I admire Senator Diane Feinstein from California, Representative Nancy Pelosi said nothing.
There was nothing from the presidents and the you know in the faculty of the United States.
Okay, this it's grotesque, you know, this this sort of silence.
One of the things that always interested uh me about you, and I really came to know a lot more about you because Matt Drudge would always print your your columns and I'd read them and and they're very well written.
I do need a thesaurus half the time when I'm when I'm reading them.
Um but you know, obviously you're a great intellectual.
You're you you're very passionate, you're very articulate in in arguing your positions, but you're also somebody that has incredible intellectual curiosity because you would, on the other hand, you would listen to talk radio shows like this and Rush and Mark and others.
Absolutely.
For heaven's sakes, uh the you know, the conservative talk radio was offering you know a counter view of all public issues from the nineteen nineties on.
The only reason talk radio rose was because of the stranglehold, you know, that's um that the ur the urban you know, PC uh liberals had on the media.
Okay, and I I speak as a Democrat, okay, and I speak also as a professor of uh you know of media studies.
It was outrageous how one-sided our media had become.
All this blame of talk radio, excuse me, okay, it was the New York Times, okay, and the networks and NPR that created talk radio, the need for talk radio.
You know, uh here's the environment we work under, and I'm not sure if you've ever heard me say this, if uh if I'm repeating myself, so be it that's part of the job.
But all of us in talk radio know this to be the environment we work in, and that is that every hour of every day, every talk show host, myself included, every hour of every day of the Fox News channel, you have people paid.
By the way, you are a total lifeless loser.
You need an existence beyond This, but they get paid to monitor every word we say in the hope that they can catch a word, a phrase, a sentence that that they can then mobilize and create some type of boycott movement, really, which is all an attempt of liberal fascism to destroy us and shut us down and silence our voices.
I think there's an attempt now, an orchestrated funded effort to destroy the Fox News channel.
And I don't think I'm paranoid.
What are your thoughts?
Well, I you know, ever since uh Hillary Clinton married David Brock, okay, you know, the evil Machiavelle.
Okay, we we've had the you know just this kind of kind of underhanded doings going on.
I I wouldn't be surprised.
Uh talk radio, all radio, okay, is a populist medium, okay.
That it allows uh the voices of callers and even sports radio allows working class voices to be heard.
Whereas NPR uh and PBS are upper middle class, bourgeois, genteel, okay, organs, all right, that that's that these people think that they speak for the working class, okay.
Using all this, you know, this feat epicine kind of uh uh intonations that come from the uh the upper you know one percent uh of the United States.
So I think uh everyone, okay, who really is interested in free speech issues should be defending talk radio if for sure.
Well, I I would think so, but it's not that.
This is a uh well financed orchestrated campaign to silence everybody that is a conservative in the country.
Uh to me it is liberal fascism.
You know, you talk about the working class, I feel like it's people like myself, by the way, I have a working class background that are championing their cause every day, and people like Donald Trump, the reason he won is he resonated with working class Americans, you know that this burdensome bureaucracy and burdensome government regulation is choke choking off any opportunity we have as a country to compete and build and manufacture in this country anymore.
Yeah, I I've actually heard from people who who know Trump in New York that he feels more at home with construction workers at his sites, okay, that than he does with the actual money the elite that he belongs to economically speaking.
And I I think that is really true, is that the way uh Trump speaks, the way he orates and so on, uh even his like asides, his meandering way of presenting you know i ideas and at rallies and so on, all of that is a populist style.
I think uh uh I too could could hear it, okay, because uh I come from an Italian immigrant family.
My uh all four of my grandparents and my mother were born in Italy.
We would have been friends growing up.
We would have gotten in trouble together.
I would have dragged you into more trouble than you've ever been.
And my grandfather worked in a shoe factory, okay.
So that was my my earliest years were uh among the you know factory workers of the Endicott Johnson shoe factory.
So yes, uh and I even though my PhD is from Yale, I have always resisted okay, that kind of uh arrogant uh elitist uh you know p facade of sophistication that now dominates our media.
All right, take a break here with uh Camille Paglia.
We'll come back with her on the other side of uh all of this.
Her book, Free Women, Free Men's Sex, Gender Feminism.
Still not sick of winning.
Make it America great again.
Sean Annity's on the air right now.
As we continue, Camille Paglia is with us, her book, Free Women, Free Men, Sex, Gender, and Feminism here.
So we're at the hundred day mark of Donald Trump, and you're one of the few people on the left that I think really has a a grasp and a handle and a fundamental understanding, as you were describing when we went to break, his son calls him a blue-collar billionaire, Don Jr.
I think that it's that's an accurate description.
Well, you know, I look, I mean, I keep telling m people and my fellow liberals and so on that an election occurred, okay.
This is a democratic country, uh and now we are w waiting to see, you know, whether this administration can govern and produce the results that have been promised.
Okay.
So I I simply don't understand the the strategy of of my party, the Democratic Party, in um in in in ha in not coming up with any solutions to the problems.
Obstruction, that's it.
Yeah, I mean it's it's it's not a good narrative.
You know, uh and listen, I can criticize my party.
The Republican Party is become a party that is afraid of their own shadow, no backbone.
Uh their their knees wobble, and they seemed ill prepared this hundred days for the governing opportunity they've been asking for for eight years.
It's it's beyond frustrating.
Trump's Doing his job, f fulfilling every promise he can.
And then you got the Congress, and they seem incapable of building consensus around a bill that they promised for eight years, which is repealing or replacing Obamacare.
Well, Republican politicians have for years seemed inept at being able to articulate any kind of foundational values.
They've they've kind of left that to talk radio.
I think that's one of the reasons for the success of talk radio.
It's kind of filled the gap.
Whereas the Democrats are it's the party of Hollywood, you know, it's the party of the of the T V networks and you know and glitz and glam.
And so the uh the Democrats have a great line.
I mean, they're they're able to pr you know produce a very slick kind of propaganda.
All right, but that then they don't follow with results.
Okay, so this is the problem, is we have this like gap between the two parties.
One is one is interested in actual practical reality, uh the you know the GOP, but is but is uh uh almost mute in uh uh in and it's an inability to present a program or or to counter, in fact, the ridiculous um democratic uh tactics such as this uh stupid idea about the war on women, okay.
Any any objection now I'm a pr I am absolutely down the line pro-choice, okay.
Nevertheless, okay, to to say that objections to abortion to to say that the pro-life stand is anti-woman or part of a war on women is absolute crap.
Okay, that m that you know that's uh the democratic women politicians have been have been cranking out now, you know, for years.
Now, this is one of the pieces actually in my in my current book where I, as a pro-choice advocate, I you know, I I you know I argue that that the mar the moral high ground is actually on the pro-life side and that feminism has failed thus far, uh, in terms of providing a kind of ethical or philosophical uh grounding for its own pro-choice position.
You know, for me it's simple.
It's it's more not a war on women as much as you have a lot of choices before you engage in sexual activity.
A lot of choices.
Usually there's a number of articles of clothing uh clothing that you pick pull off before you get to that moment.
I do believe human beings do have control over their own behavior, is as outdated as that idea is, and so there are a lot of choices leading up to it.
I just happen to believe that life begins at conception.
And I do make exceptions for people that don't have an opportunity for a choice, and I think that's fair-minded, uh, although maybe not as pure a position as some people that says a life is a life is a life.
But right.
And another thing I'm I'm saying is that it's up to w women when they arrive at on c at the college campus, okay, to take full responsibility for themselves and their own sexual behavior, including signals and messaging they may be offering through the clothing choices and and their speech patterns.
All right, but you know, but today I'm I'm in you know, I'm in a a minority.
We've got to pick this up another day, but I would love having you on the program.
We're just out of time.
Camille Pagley, come back often.
Free women, free men, sex gender feminism on Hannity.com.
Thank you so much.
All right, 800 nine four one Sean, toll-free telephone number.
We're gonna stay with the phones for this final half hour this Friday.
Oh, I couldn't believe I nearly uh I've nearly got emotional when I read on Twitter, and then I retweeted it.
If you go to At Sean Hannity, you can see what my good friend Velma in Vegas wrote about me and my adopted nephews and our fun and our time together.
You know, some people thought it was self-serving that I I put that up on Twitter.
Oh, you're you're bragging.
I'm like, no, I'm very proud of the fact that I have two beautiful nephews, and I'm proud of us being friends, and you wrote something very, very touching to me, and it meant a lot to me.
And you know, after a tough week, I'm like, you know what?
This really made me feel good.
I can't believe how nice you were to me.
I mean, were you sick yesterday or something?
No, but you how you doing, honey.
I shouldn't say honey.
How are you doing, Sean?
No, I want your husband to hear you know, there is one part of the story you didn't get into.
My husband, I told my husband.
He he read it, he'd know all about it.
And he was he was he was glad I did it.
Wow.
How come your husband never wants to meet me when I'm out in Vegas?
My husband, Sean, if you ever meet this man, my husband is a wonderful I'm not lying.
He's the best person.
I know he is wonderful.
Does he think like I have does he think that I have calling you Sean, he just don't he's just not a person that he doesn't want to be on social media.
He just he's just a quiet man.
I mean, he's not thinking that like I'm should I'm going after his wife, right?
He's not thinking anything untoward.
But he's not thinking the boys on social media.
But you're not listening.
That's so but he doesn't think there's anything untoward between us, does he?
No.
If he did, you think he would let me come to New York and come to see me.
Trust me, because he knows I love him.
And he knows I wouldn't do and on top of that, Sean.
If if you were a man like that, I wouldn't come around you anyway.
A man like what I'm not like that.
I uh you know, it's just you just I I I felt so bad.
I read something and I didn't like it, and I was so disheartened.
I was so hurt.
And I said, you know what?
I'm not gonna be silent.
I do not care what people think.
I don't care how many people I'm following, I don't care what they say.
I'm gonna get out there and tell my truth about the man that I know.
It really really know.
It really touches You are a I've never seen anything like it.
I'm telling you, nobody but Jesus.
It ain't just the gifts and stuff.
Listen, now I will about the gifts.
It's you.
The way you take up time with us.
The way you take up time.
You're my adopted family.
I love my family.
I take care of my family.
That's what I do in my life.
No, no, no.
In my lifetime, I never dreamed I would meet somebody like you and my children.
They love you so much, and I do too.
And you know what?
I tell you, and it's it's so funny because I tell you I love you, and you just let me say, I tell you, I'm in love with my husband.
And I love Sean Hannon.
But I wanna but I want to meet your husband.
Now, Marcel and Anthony, you sent me a video of my nephews, and we sent him out the motorbikes, but I did send out a big disclaimer.
I said, Velma, I said, You gotta watch 'em.
You gotta make sure they get lessons.
They get I don't want those kids getting hurt on those stupid motorbikes.
You did.
And and you know what?
I tried to talk him out of it.
And you, when this kid told you what he wanted, you just said, okay.
Well, I assumed that he had asked his mother.
Okay, Sean.
It was on your phone.
You know, good w you know goodwell this kid goes behind my back, texts you, everything else.
You know that.
By the way, come on, how cute is that that your son takes your phone and he texts Uncle Sean when you're not looking?
I think that's the coolest thing ever.
That is not cool.
That is so unwilling.
No, you know, the better story, and I don't remember if it was Anthony or Marcel.
The better story is so your husband, you know, cuts the lawn, and they see his dad they see their dad and he puts the gasoline in the engine, and he's he's I you know where he's firing up the the lawnmower, and so he wants to help his dad, and he he he didn't know the the difference between gasoline and water.
I think he was like three years old at the time, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Right.
So he takes he takes water and puts puts it in the the uh the uh lawn mower and you and you put him in prison.
You put him in in his room, you wouldn't let him out of his room until I had to put up bail money and get him out.
That's true.
That's true.
But don't you but the but kid was trying to help his father?
Why were you being mean to the kid?
It's just like if the kid wants to text.
If the kid wants to text his uncle, you have to know.
Marcel and Anthony are allowed to text me anytime they want.
See, Sean, that's why you the uncle and I'm the mother.
Yeah, that's right, because I'm right and you write for that.
Why would you forbid why would you forbid your sons from texting their uncle?
That's not fair.
That's mean.
That's mean.
That's not mean either.
I have to control these kids.
They're nine and ten years old.
Right.
And uh well, it's not like they're texting, you know, uh girls.
It's not like they're texting, you know, curse words, it's not like they're doing anything bad.
They're just texting their uncle.
They're saying hello.
I try to tell these children.
And see, you haven't helped in.
I said, Sean, Uncle Sean is very busy.
Uncle Sean, those are the people.
They know you have money, and I told them, I said, you can't be taking advantage of him.
Yeah, not taking advantage of me.
I don't I I only give things if I want to give them.
I if I didn't want to give it to him, I wouldn't.
We can't afford that.
They will say, Uncle Sean can.
That's right.
Because you cater to that, you cater to him too much.
And I'll tell you that.
Well, uh well, okay.
What so you don't think every kid deserves an Xbox?
You don't think every kid they do show bicycle.
Everything, you can't just cater to everything they they say.
Okay, I didn't I don't give them every I didn't give them a jet, I didn't give them a house.
I mean, they haven't asked for it.
You know, but uh you bet you bet you better you better.
listen, Melma, you gotta you gotta promise me.
You gotta promise me.
We gotta make a deal here, and then I gotta hang up and move to other callers.
You gotta promise me that whenever the boys want to text that you'll let them have your phone or text me.
There's I don't care any time, day or night.
If I'm up, I'll text back.
Okay then.
All right, we have a deal, right?
Yeah, we do.
All right, Velma, I love you.
What you wrote about me touched me deeply.
Thank you very much.
I I don't deserve your friendship.
You know what?
And I tell you what, I always want to do something for you, and all you ever say was pray for me.
And I do pray for you and your family.
That's all I want.
And I know you're gonna have the desires of your heart.
Because you are a giving, wonderful, caring, respectful.
I can't even, oh gosh, you just you're awesome.
All right.
Well, listen, you're awesome too.
So are the boys.
Say hi to Marcel and Anthony and your husband, everybody over there.
And you're s I I met your sister too.
She's nice.
And uh and everybody else.
All right, thank you, Velma.
We love you.
So I love that woman.
I don't know what from the right, Linda, from the first time she called.
Did you did you read that on Twitter?
I did.
It was beautiful.
Are you in a bad mood today?
I'm in a great mood.
You don't sound like it.
You don't sound up.
You give me short answers, snappy answers, and that means first of all, well, give me a- No, I'm just efficient.
I'm efficient.
Why are you being efficient today?
I was just writing something down for the show, so I just was quickly answering.
But let's have a conversation.
Let's talk.
How are you doing today?
Um, I got through the fantastic show, by the way.
Here we are at the end already.
It flies by, forget about it.
It's like I I can't even handle it.
Like butter.
Like butter.
You wanted me to be off the last two days.
I tried very hard.
Oh, you aggravated the daylights out of it.
That's my job.
No, it's no, that's not your own.
Well, it's a two-way, you know.
The more you give, the more I get.
No, no, no.
Your job is not to aggravate me.
Of course it is.
No, it's not.
Do a much better show when I piss you off.
So you You want me in a state of anger all day?
I'll die young.
Well, I mean, only the good die young, right?
All right, I'm not in the friend Billy Delson.
I'm pretty measured.
You do live in New York.
It's a it's a permanent state.
I am not in your state.
You are you can't.
No, we're all in the state of New York.
No, but you can't I am not in the state of mind you're gonna be able to do it.
Remember that you asked me to talk to you, and this is what happened.
Listen, if somebody's texting in front of you and walking in the street and they're not walking fast enough, you're ready to knock them over.
I do knock them over.
Exactly.
I'm not like that.
I'm sorry.
All right, big time AJ Houston, Texas.
What's going on, baby?
How are you?
Hennity.
Hey, we love Emma.
We love her to death.
Oh my gosh, she's so awesome.
I know we don't want to lose Linda, but I sure would love her to be Trump's press secretary.
You want Velma to be Trump's press secretary?
Hey, and wait.
Trest will never get a word in Edwin.
First of all.
They shut up.
They notice it.
Linda, I actually let them.
Well, you don't leave Linda alone.
Linda, would you do that?
Absolutely.
By the way, they couldn't handle her a day.
The media would would absolutely go insane.
By the way, they would probably appreciate me more.
They would uh they would say, Wow, Hannity really is a very patient fellow.
Test them all.
Hey, real quick, real quick, Sean.
Where's all the protests when Obama did his speeches?
Oh, nobody's turned out.
So we know what the rat's doing.
And quickly, I everybody for tomorrow, Trump's one in a day.
Tweet out and tell how great that man is.
And then the Republicans, we better get some dark own B-A-L-L and get behind the man, because we will have a great weekend, my friend.
Love you.
You're the best.
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