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If you want to join us, Linda's still mad that I didn't take off yesterday and today.
She's starting in on me already today.
I'm not, I am healthy as a horse today.
I'm not coughing up half my lungs.
I'm not as sick as yesterday.
I got some sleep last night, some well-needed rest.
And you would have had me off the air for the next two days, twiddling my thumbs and acting like Congress and being lazy and not showing up and taking recesses.
So you kind of owe an apology to the audience.
Go ahead.
You're right.
I'm so, so sorry that you're feeling better.
You know, you seem too zen today.
Are you not well today?
What's maybe you're sick today?
You know, I do feel a little under the weather.
I may need to go home.
Go.
What's my rule?
I don't know.
What is your rule?
Because it doesn't seem to apply anymore.
Well, Jason, no, no, no.
My rule is don't come to the office sick.
Oh, you're right.
Wait, wait, wait.
Hold on.
Could you say it again?
No, no, no.
Let's say it again because we're going to roll tape.
Okay, because this is my staff that I love and care about, and I am the leader of this staff.
I know you think you think you think you're the boss because everybody knows if they get to you, they have this big sort of apron of protection that you offer them.
Because if they do something wrong, they'll go running to you because you're going to be nice about it and you're going to take credit for the mistake and you're going to cover for them.
And then when I ask you who it is, you're not going to tell me who it is.
And then when you don't tell me who it is, I get frustrated.
And by the time I spend five minutes of my day trying to get out of you, who is it?
And you don't tell me, I'm pissed off that you won't tell me more than whatever it is that they did wrong.
What does this have to do with you ignoring doctors' orders on air and now saying that those are the same rules you're doing?
Listen, I love Dr. Umber, but I don't need Dr. Umber today.
You know, remember, five days after you take your Z pack, it's still working in your body and your systems are.
Where did you get your MD from?
I don't have an MD, wise ass.
Why are you picking on me today?
I'm in.
Because it's just so much fun.
Oh, okay.
Oh, so now, oh, it's fun.
It's always fun.
It's always fun.
I mean, normally I don't get to do it on air.
I mean, now everybody gets to hear it.
This is every day.
Every day.
You try and just push my buttons, annoy, aggravate, agitate, irritate, upset, hurt my feelings.
Or like yesterday, just before TV, you give me a call and I'm like, what now?
What is it now?
Thank you.
And you're welcome.
Because if you're calling me late at night, it's never a good thing.
And it was a dumb question.
And what happens?
What happens when I irritate you?
Nothing.
Nothing happens?
Nothing at all happens.
Nothing?
Nothing.
Are you sure?
Jason, what happens?
What?
Why are you trying to drag me into your little pillow?
And you know what?
You know what I'm saying?
You and Sunshine and Ethan, you all hide behind her apron because if you guys screw up, she says, I did it.
Even if you screw up in the board, which by the way, in Jason's defense, he rarely, rarely ever does.
Occasionally, Ethan, he's not quite up to Jason's part yet, but he's getting there.
He's doing well, and it's a tough job.
So, but she'll even say, Oh, I pushed that button, and she's nowhere near the button to push the button.
And she'll just sit there and lie about it right to my face.
And all I'm asking is, well, what happened?
Well, you know what happens when I irritate you, right?
No, it is a conspiracy.
It's a conspiracy?
Have you been unveiled and unmasked by my wheels?
Right now, this is a conspiracy to take me out.
Clearly.
You know, I might as well go for all the conspiracies.
Someone gave you the flu, and someone else is putting questions on the board.
Nobody gave me the flu.
But there's a lot of people on the left that would love for me to be dead right now and off the air and not supporting the president.
And every effort is afoot, you know, to whoever's in their underwear in their basement in New Mexico today, monitoring every word I'm saying.
Hello from all of us on the team.
Guys, say hello to the monitor.
We only hope that they're wearing Tommy John.
Yeah, that's true.
They're going to have to.
At least they'll be in comfort.
What if it's a she?
I don't know.
I guess Victoria's Secret, right?
Listen, don't get me started.
I don't know anything about underwear, except for I like Tommy Johnson.
I'm not going to get gender specific.
They can wear Tommy John on either side.
It's fine.
Yeah, that's true.
Actually, that is a very good, fair, feminist point, which brings us to one of our guests today.
It's going to be Camille Paglius back on the program, who I always find interesting.
She's a little Bernie Sanders supporter.
And I'm dying to find out how she feels about, you know, Milo and the near riot that broke out in Berkeley, the home of the free speech movement.
And Ann Coulter's scheduled speech at Berkeley last night is canceled.
And they're still out there complaining and whining.
And, you know, what's so bad?
What are they so afraid of that Ann Coulter is going to talk about immigration and enforcing current immigration laws in America?
And maybe that actually engage in a free and open exchange of ideas and ideals and opinions.
And maybe they actually might learn something or they might challenge her or they might have a vigorous debate and the people that are there might benefit from hearing both sides of a particular issue.
What's so bad, horrible, dangerous that they've got to shut that down.
And that's what I keep saying.
That's what liberal fascism is.
You know, right around Nancy Pelosi's home and Diane Feinstein's home, I thought they were real free speech liberals and champions of liberty.
They're not.
If they were, then they would be defending, you know, they would tell all these people financing these people in their underwear, monitoring talk radio and Fox News 24-7.
They would tell them to stand down and if you don't like it, tune it out.
Just like I don't watch Bill Maher show.
Just like I don't watch certain programs.
What's that other guy's name?
Trevor Oliver.
Oh, so bad.
I don't even know how these guys get shows.
Although I do think I want to go to Britain and do a show.
I think it might be fun to do a show there because apparently.
If we go, can we please do it with Katie Hopkins?
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
She's my favorite guest rock star now.
She had me in tears the other day.
So the protesters are squaring off again in Berkeley after Coulter canceled.
Why are they squaring off?
What are they complaining about now?
The most interesting thing going to things going on in Washington today is they can't get their act together.
I am so frustrated.
Words cannot even begin to express my frustration, even beyond Linda annoying me about ordering me, trying to order me, complaining, being obstinate, and then getting mad at me because I decide to come in and do my own show every day.
And the lower standard that I apply to people that work for me, which is if you don't feel good, don't come in.
Don't apply to myself because I want to lead by example.
And she calls me a hypocrite for that.
When it's not hypocrisy, if the boss takes a different position and a harder position for himself.
But I'm more frustrated even more than when Linda bugs me over the House being incapable after 100 days to even get a vote on repealing, replacing Obamacare.
Since they ran on this, they voted 60 times.
What did I always call them?
Show votes.
They meant nothing.
And when Ted Cruz said, let's stop making it a show vote.
Let's put some teeth in this and let's use our enumerated constitutional power of the purse and let's defund Obamacare.
You know, every Republican went running for the Hills rather than uniting with him.
And I'm beginning to think that Republicans, or at least some of them, they don't want to repeal and replace Obamacare.
It's like the dirty little secret.
Now, I understand reconciliation.
By the way, most of you don't want to hear about it.
You don't want to learn about it.
You don't need to know about it.
Or the bird rule.
And if you're really up on politics, you already know what reconciliation is and the bird rule is and a cloture vote.
You get it.
But that's not even the point.
As Byron York was pointing out in his piece, dirty little secret, you know, that's keeping maybe House Republicans, they don't want a full repeal of Obamacare, which is outrageous and disgraceful.
It means that they have been telling us one big lie for all of these years because too many of them, or enough of them actually, favor Obamacare, which is now making it impossible to repeal.
But that's not what all of them ran on.
They all ran on repeal.
You know, so it's becoming clear that if they had wanted it done, they don't even want to sort of repeal Obamacare because the bill currently on the table, you know, falls short of a full repeal of Obamacare.
Now, in fairness, even the 2015 bill did that.
And this is where the issues of technical difficulties related to the Senate, the passing of the bill, reconciliation, having revenue-neutral bills when you're repealing in a budget bill.
It gets a little complicated, but not like they're saying.
But I thought this is what they said they were going to do.
I thought this is what they all promised.
That's what they said, give us the House in 2010.
Give us the Senate in 2014.
Give it to us.
We'll get it done.
Now, to me, Paul Ryan needs to get his act together.
And if there are Republicans that now refuse to support a bill that is a compromise bill that the Freedom Caucus says is a great first step, and they're not willing to do that, well, start naming those Republicans.
I want to know who the obstacles are.
I want to know who's refusing to support this bill, support the president.
The trillion dollars is needed so he can advance his economic plan, which we need desperately to get Americans back to work and out of poverty and off of food stamps and buying homes again.
You know, back when Tom DeLay was the House majority whip, let me tell you something.
This ball wouldn't happen.
This crap would never have been tolerated.
Not only would Tom DeLay have twisted arms to get the legislation passed, he would have broken arms if that's what it took to get the jobs done.
Not literally, by the way.
People take things too literal today.
So, you know, what we need right now is some serious arm twisting.
And I think the president needs to team up with Ryan if he can find the time.
He doesn't have any sense of urgency and state loudly and state clearly.
You know, by Monday, any member of the GOP, any moderate that still opposes repealing and replacing, considering Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan and Louie Gohmert and all these other Freedom Caucus guys worked with the Tuesday group and the study group and the moderates to get the deal done.
And I think the president should personally and publicly threaten to tweet out their names and campaign against them.
And if the speaker won't get his job done, maybe he's not meant for this job.
And Ryan should make clear he won't get it.
Nobody will get a single dime of campaign funding from the Republican Party or the leadership if they don't now get on board as a party and show that they're prepared to leave.
Lead.
If repeal and replace isn't done in the next two weeks, it may never get done.
And that means Paul Ryan is a failure.
I'll tell you right now, this also means Paul Ryan can kiss his House majority goodbye and his speakership goodbye.
And you can bet your bottom dollar that the newly crowned House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi, will commence impeachment hearings against Donald Trump before the ink is dry.
You think I'm overstating the case?
I don't think so.
Now, on the good news side of this, contrary to reports earlier today that 40 to 50 House Republicans now refused to endorse this replacement, Mark Meadows is saying, no, that's not true.
And he's saying, obviously, we'd love to have a vote in the first hundred days.
But then he said, I can tell you, I was on the phone until 11 o'clock last night, like he's been since the day they pulled the bill the first time.
He says we're only a few short at this moment.
And he says, we're going to work all day today and tomorrow.
And he anticipates that they'll have a vote probably next week.
And Meadows pushed back on reports, which the administration first tried to push through the first hundred days that it had fallen apart.
He said, that's not true.
He said there wouldn't be many more changes to the bill.
And then he said, I can tell you the president, the vice president are all hands on deck.
This will get done.
It's a matter of weeks, not a matter of months.
So I'm very optimistic.
That's what he said the last time.
Now, Democrats, now, I told you, didn't I say, Linda, that they want to go home for the weekend, that there's not going to be a government shutdown?
I told you.
So they did a stopgap measure to get us into next week.
And then they'll be debating the continuing resolution next week because now the Democrats are threatening to shut the government down over the issue of Obamacare, considering Republicans caved on the issue of funding the border wall, which was stupid.
They should have just held the line and said, fine, shut it down.
Shut down the government.
You'll blame it.
You'll be blamed for it.
Whole idea of pushing the budget process into the next presidency was we can get some better economic plans in place that's going to help the country.
All right, as we roll along, Sean Hannity Show 800 941 Sean, if you want to be a part of this extravaganza.
So fine, Mike, shut the government down.
Threatening to shut the government down has now become the Democratic Party's all-purpose tool to block Republicans from any and everything, especially in this case from implementing Donald Trump's agenda.
Now, earlier this week, congressional Democrats threatened to shut down the government if Republicans wouldn't fund the border wall.
I don't get this because they spent eight years with Obama, scared to death that they're going to get blamed for the shutdown.
They'd threaten and they'd pull back almost immediately.
Oh, it's okay.
We're sorry.
We didn't mean to throw it.
Don't blame us, please.
And, you know, poor Ted Cruz got beaten up by his own party.
Oh, we're going to get crushed in the 2014 election.
Oh, Ted Cruz, look at the filibuster on actually using constitutionally enumerated powers to do something that is worthwhile and keep a promise.
Oh, well, we ended up doing pretty well in that campaign.
And the same Republicans are too weak and timid to support this president.
So now that the Democrats have been empowered after they threatened to shut down the government if the Republicans wanted to fund the president's border wall, well, now they're threatening to shut the government down if Republicans dare to repeal Obamacare.
Let them shut it down.
Shut it down.
It's going to be on their heads.
And it's about time.
When are you guys ever going to fight for what you believe in?
When are you ever going to take a stand?
The border wall and Obamacare are two great reasons that Donald Trump was elected.
Take a stand, be bold, be courageous, because your approval ratings really, really cannot get much lower than they are now.
And what you're not understanding, all you weak, timid, spineless Republicans in Washington, what you're not understanding is when you take a stand, when you keep your promises, when you stand for what's right, when you stand up for an 80-20 issue like the border wall, then you will benefit politically.
So being strong, not being timid, having a vision, solving problems, people want solutions, especially because we need Obamacare passed so that we can take the trillion dollars and move it over to the president's economic plan.
If we want security, we got to secure the borders.
You know, the Trump, President Trump's trying on everything.
Get your act together.
Get some strength.
Get some courage.
Get some backbone.
Make a list of the promises you made, like the president's doing, and fulfill them.
It's not that hard or complicated.
All right, the other news of the day: your calls when we get back.
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Sean, this should not surprise you.
Anyway, new poll sponsored by the University of Virginia Center for Politics.
Overwhelming number of Trump voters agree with this statement that the press is the enemy of the American people.
88%.
I bet, you know, when I remember when I had the debate with Ted Coppel, and I'm Ted Coppel, this is Nightline, and you're bad for America because you're so good at what you do.
Remember the whole thing.
I'm like, Ted, you sell the American people short.
Most people, and I know most of you in this audience know your intelligence is being insulted.
You know, instinctively, you see, you've been, it's almost like once your mind opens up, you become hip to the bias that exists out there.
In other words, it's like you might believe, um, let me see.
Maybe on NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams.
We start tonight, Joe.
You know, for a while, you believe all that's real.
You believe these guys are infallible.
You believe these guys are not biased.
You believe that these guys are honest and truthful and fair and they're balanced.
And then you begin to see Dan Rather and the whole document fraud extravaganza that led to his firing.
Oh, Dan Rather is a liberal, although most of us knew that ahead of time.
Same with all these other major networks, and the same with CNN, and the same with MSNBC.
You know, that's why I'm trying to, I'm trying not for selfish reasons here.
And I really mean that.
It may seem self-serving, but I'm trying to also make everybody aware of what the conditions are.
I think I'm the only one that talks about it.
I have not heard although, look, I don't listen enough to other people.
I just try and be myself every day to know, but I know all of my colleagues know this.
I don't know if they talk about it.
I know everybody, the Fox News channel, knows it.
I mean, I think most of you by now know what Media Matters is all about.
They want to silence conservative voices.
And they take words and phrases constantly out of context.
And they blow it up into be something that it's not.
And if they get the right word, sentence, phrase, then they begin the full, all right, let's go after the advertisers.
That's just a roundabout way of stopping support.
Well, maybe they don't do it this way.
They'll list this advertiser is now pulled from X show.
And well, they're doing is they're ratcheting up the pressure so they know that they'll put financial pressure on a particular show and a particular owner and a particular network.
And eventually they know that all of these networks and all of these broadcasting mediums are financially, have to remain financially viable.
And some of them may think about cutting their losses and firing a talent over controversy.
And it's like we're monitored every hour of every single day, every minute, every second of every day that I'm on the air.
And it's me and every conservative talk show host, other host that you listen.
In many cases, even your local hosts now are being monitored by these people.
These people are well-funded.
They're paid.
They're in their basements.
They're in their underwear.
And they're paid to monitor every show.
And the same with everything that's done and said on Fox News.
And if you think I'm kidding and you think I'm overstating it and you think I'm conspiratorial and you think I'm paranoid over what they're trying to do at the Fox News channel, just look at what happened last Friday to me, two days after Bill O'Reilly and the network parted ways.
And, you know, a false accusation that supposedly happened in 2003 or four, whenever it was.
It had never been stated before.
And then you look at a media that took the charge of one individual, a false allegation, completely made up on every level.
And they took this and ran with this.
They didn't even print the year that this supposedly had happened.
Linda thinks it's 2003.
I think 2004.
And they just ran with it.
They didn't do a rudimentary background check on the individual.
Because if they would have, they would have noticed, oh, there's a 12, 13, 14-year history of her slandering Sean Hannity and proven to be lying about Sean Hannity.
It didn't stop them.
And, you know, so I get my name, my reputation smeared, slandered, besmirched, you know, raked over the coals on basically every website, every news site, every news channel, every radio station, every TV station in the country on every network.
Just get the crap beat out of me because they didn't take the time to do a rudimentary, simple, basic, fundamental background check, not even a Google search or Yahoo search or something.
So you want to know why 88% of voters agree that the media is the enemy of the American people because they're not honest.
What they did in this last week to me was not honest.
It was not fair.
And frankly, I think it's they basically were co-conspirators and slander.
Does the media have any obligation to do any background check at all?
Or they can take one source that's not credible and use it.
This is a media.
This isn't the National Inquirer or the Star magazine.
By the way, National Inquirer has been right sometimes, a lot of times, actually, in our Star magazine.
This is not a tabloid.
This is not a gossip column.
This is news, supposed news.
And they take the word of one individual, not multiple sources, one.
They take that person's word, go after a well-known conservative, and try and this.
If you don't see this for what it was, this was the kill shot.
This was, we got O'Reilly, let's get Hannity.
Oh, this is great.
Let's get Hannity.
Let's take Hannity out two days after O'Reilly's gone.
That's bad.
The fact that they didn't do a simple Google search, I think they committed crimes myself.
I think they have a basic obligation, a legal obligation to do the most fundamental, basic, rudimentary type of research and corroboration before they slander somebody's reputation.
I have a team of lawyers.
I have a team of investigators.
I'm not letting this go.
I am not letting it go.
You know, if I didn't have, you know, I started out my life with no money.
I'm not in that position anymore.
But if I didn't have the financing to be able to hire these big-name lawyers that I've hired, these very expensive Israeli investigators that I've hired, the best of the business, these are the best of the best.
They might have won because I didn't have anybody, really, a lot of people, some people behind the scenes.
I will say this, the people that most defended me were people on social media.
My irredeemable, deplorable friends, the Let Not Your Heart Be Troubled Twitter Army Brigade, they came to my defense.
Now, the people that work with me, you know, you guys had a particularly tough week, didn't you?
I mean, now I'm not trying to drag you into this, by the way.
Do you want to get dragged into this?
Why are you laughing at me like that?
I'm not laughing at you.
I mean, I think everyone in here.
You were more upset.
I think everyone in here is pretty angry.
Oh, yeah, you were angry.
Well, I know her, and I've been through this before, so I'm really angry.
Well, my whole family knows this.
But, you know, and, you know, imagine this.
You've got to understand something here.
You know, when my, you know, my niece, Cassie.
Now, she knows.
Now, my niece went to Notre Dame.
She went to medical school.
She lives in Houston.
She's a doctor, O-B-G-Y-N.
When my poor niece writes me, and you know Cassie, I mean, she got a heart of gold.
She is, I mean, she went for every summer in high school for that, what's the name of that doctor's group where they do operations?
I don't, I don't remember the group, so I don't want to give the wrong group.
Anyway, she would spend her summers, and it made her want to become a doctor just for that reason and help people.
And she's a special girl.
But when she writes me, all she wrote me the first thing this week was in the middle of this, Uncle Sean, I love you.
She doesn't know.
She's not media savvy like all of us in this room here.
Well, you're in the other room.
You know what I mean?
All she sees is the sexual harasser headline.
And she writes me and she's devastated.
Then she has to explain to her friends.
Then she has to explain to her husband.
And she has to explain to her in-laws that her uncle is not a dirtbank.
Or my son, who's at college, sees an article or people are sending it to him.
Isn't it nice?
You have friends that send them articles about that.
And my son writing me, I love you, Dad.
I know it's not true.
Are you okay?
It's, you know, so it's hard for people that don't live in my world, in our world, and you get the same thing.
Are you getting the same types of responses from people like I am?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, everybody's very supportive and outraged.
Yeah, but there's a group of people that don't understand that this is a game that people play.
This is normal.
This is normal.
You know, and I've tried, I try to explain it to my son and daughter this week that, you know, I've kept, I have, and you got to be proud of me for most of my career, I have kept them out of this mess.
I have been, I don't know how, but thank God they've been interested in other things than their dad's career.
Thank God that they have other interests.
You know, my kids have been to my TV show less than anybody, and it's like they'll come with their friends because they're friends or their friends' fathers and mothers or fans of the show.
So then they're stuck coming then.
And in the case of my son, he'll spend the entire hour not paying attention to one word that's said, but running around the studio, making me throw the football to him.
That's the entire hour.
And my daughter will find a way to run around and find the makeup, the wonderful makeup people and hair people I work with, and she'll come out a stunning news anchor by the end of the hour.
Just, you know, they're not sitting there watching their dad thinking, oh, this is the greatest thing on earth.
That's all they have known growing up.
But they haven't known the dark side of this because I don't go home and tell anybody.
I don't bring all this home.
I don't bring home what was said to me on this website or that website.
And I didn't never want to, I chose this life.
I didn't want to drag them into it.
Listen, I get it.
It's part of the job.
I dish it out four hours a day, every day.
But here's the question.
And you know who the team of lawyers is, Linda.
Here's my question.
Because we agree and feel that the media in particular that ran with their cheap headline, no background at all whatsoever, that they had a rudimentary and fundamental responsibility to their viewers, listeners, readers, and to me to do a rudimentary, fundamental, basic, simple,
even a Google search would have done, and they didn't even do that.
Do you think legally they have culpability?
Absolutely.
That's what my lawyers think.
And that's what I think.
They're good lawyers.
All right, on a scale of one to 10, rate them all.
There's no scale for them.
There's no scale for them.
They're terrific people.
When it gets announced, we're going to get to it.
We're dotting our I's and crossing our T's, and we're going to do it right.
We're not going to rush.
When people find out this team, what do you think the reaction is going to be?
Run.
Run for your lives.
Yeah, exactly.
So I think there's something in play here.
And everybody thinks that I stopped talking about it while it's going away.
Oh, I've not stopped.
Ooh, no, I have not stopped.
And you know, I haven't stopped.
You know, the media earning poor marks from Americans.
Another new poll: 51% of Americans said the national political media is out of touch with everyday Americans.
28%, it understands the issue of everyday American.
I don't know who the 28% are.
They clearly voted for Hillary.
New York Times editor won't use the term female genital mutilation, culturally loaded and divides people.
Wow.
That's evil in our time.
We can't stand up for women that are brutally mutilated like that.
By the way, NBC found a Trump voter with buyers' remorse.
Happened to be a Democrat, by the way.
NBC News president says NBC News is objective journalism.
MSNBC is informed opinion.
Wow, they believe that.
That's pretty interesting.
You know, you compare the New York Times and how they felt about government shutdowns in 2013, the GOP's fault.
In 2017, it's Trump's fault.
Of course, because they're Democrats.
Scott Pelly, by the way, according to newsbusters, the most anti-Trump anchor on TV news.
By the way, leftists have been paid.
That was a good thing.
Anyway, we'll get to all of this today.
And we've got Camille Paglia coming up in the course of the program.
We got Congressman Babbin.
We have an update on surveillance and a letter that was sent to Jeff Sessions that we should maybe be investigating Susan Rice for the unmasking of people.
We'll get to that.
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If you want to join us, Camille Paglia coming up at the top of the next hour, talk to her about liberal fascism and what's going on, no free speech, college campuses, the attempts to silence every conservative in America today.
A lot happening in Washington.
Stopgap measure, shocking.
Congressmen and women want to go home for the weekend, so they'll punt and they'll get back to the issue of the continuing resolution next week.
Republicans, the leadership cannot get their act together on health care, even though all but one Freedom Caucus member working in conjunction with the Tuesday group and the study group has the bill done.
There's going to be a real serious question raised in the next week or two about House leadership if this doesn't get done.
There's just no excuse for it.
We also have an update.
Now, Brian Babbin, congressman from the great state of Texas, asked the Attorney General Jeff Sessions to investigate Susan Rice.
We talked about surveilling, unmasking, and intelligence leaking.
Finally, somebody is saying, hey, what about Susan Rice's admitted unmasking of Trump AIDS?
So they made their first public inquiry into opening an investigation as it relates to these reports that the Obama administration's National Security Advisor, Susan Rice, and others unmasked several Trump campaign officials that were swept up in the U.S. surveillance operations against foreign targets during last year's presidential election campaign.
And Congressman Babbin is with us now.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing great, Sean.
Great to be with you again.
Well, didn't we learn towards the end of our investigation here that, in fact, there was direct surveillance of Americans, which would be a violation of their Fourth Amendment protections, constitutional protections against unreasonable search and seizure when it was not connected in any way to any foreign entity?
Did that happen, sir?
It certainly looks that way.
And, you know, until we do get a full and independent investigation, and I say independent because it could very possibly be a lot more than just Susan Rice, and some may still be federal employees.
So, you know, it just doesn't pass the smell test, Sean.
There needs to be a full, thorough investigation, and it needs to be immediate.
And I will say this: I've gotten a personal note back from the Attorney General himself thanking me for the letter and understanding my concerns.
And so I feel very good about this.
I was watching him in an interview this morning.
He says he won't confirm or deny, which is policy, even the existence of a potential investigation in this particular case.
But if we, in fact, had the surveillance, the unmasking of a political opposition party in the middle of a presidential campaign, and the National Security Advisor and maybe the CIA director and maybe people like Ben Rhodes and maybe even the president himself had knowledge of this, wouldn't that be on a scale like a thousand times bigger than Watergate?
You're reading my mind.
I mean, it makes Watergate look like recess in kindergarten, especially when you have federal employees in positions of authority working right under the president of the United States, abusing their privileges.
And quite frankly, you know, I think that I don't care whether you're whatever your position is, small or mighty, when you risk Americans and you abuse your privileges, then you are absolutely, you know, just in other words, taking the Constitution and our civil rights and inverting them, perverting them, I think is a better word.
And these people need to be called to account.
If they're found guilty, then they need to be prosecuted.
And I heard the Attorney General himself on Fox News, as a matter of fact, been about a couple of three weeks ago, saying that he was this absolute quote, absolutely this leaking must stop, and it's not going to stop until we have some prosecutions.
And so that was why that was actually the incentive for me to write him a letter.
And I feel very strongly that, of course, he's not going to mention anything, I don't believe, about an ongoing investigation.
But I feel confident that we're going to see some action here.
Do you believe, based on what you know now, that there was widespread surveillance for political purposes of Donald Trump's campaign?
It smells of that, Sean.
I cannot, you know, I'm a colleague with the Intel Committee, Chairman Nunes.
I can't say anything, you know, in this interview or anything like that, but I can tell you that it looks awful bad when you have this type of thing going on.
And it started with General Flynn.
That was the first evidence that we saw where they absolutely went after him and cost him his job.
Now, I'm not going to get involved in what he said or didn't say to the vice president.
Wasn't he vetted by the Obama administration and get a security clearance through them?
You would think so.
Absolutely.
And it looks like what they did was just to listen in, surveil, and then unmask these people, and that is a felony.
They are not supposed to take private citizens and unmask them and expose their names to the public.
And anyone who's found doing that, I think, needs to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
And that was what my letter was all about.
And I feel very strongly about this.
This is worse than Watergate ever was.
And these responsible parties need to be called to account.
Can you update us about the stopgap measure as it relates to the CR?
And why is there this inordinate fear among Republicans, your colleagues, that they're going to get blamed for a government shutdown?
You know, I thought the idea was to push the budget into this year so that with a Republican president, we might have the opportunity to actually do a real good budget.
Well, we still might have that opportunity, and I'm hoping so, because this is only a very short-term CR.
And, you know, there's some stuff in here that I have a problem with.
But, you know, Sean, my last session when I first came to Congress, I used to wake up in the morning, and anything that I could do, any way that I could stop what this socialist agenda was of President Obama, I was willing to do.
But now we've got a president in there that I've really worked hard and campaigned for, and he has an agenda which is almost identical to mine.
And so, you know, I am more willing to kind of ride with him on CRs just so we can get through his agenda.
That's why I was so very disappointed.
We could not pass the Health Care Act so we could get on to tax reform and get on to reg reform and everything else.
Because the man is being criticized constantly about his first 100 days being a disaster.
Well, I would remind the folks out there that he's signed more bills into law than any other president in the last 50 years.
And he has signed 25 executive orders.
He's helped put 500,000 people back to work in the United States of America, even before he was doing it, even before he took office.
We got a U.S. Supreme Court justice confirmed in the first 100 days.
That hasn't happened since 1881.
So I think he's got a great report card, and that's why I'm willing to let's see.
Let's give the guy a chance.
That was one reason I voted for this CR.
And I want to see some things done.
I think this country's been going in the wrong direction for eight solid years.
And this president, we've got to give him a chance.
What is wrong with the Republicans after eight years of saying they're going to repeal and replace Obamacare?
They can't get it done.
Why wasn't there consensus built beforehand?
Why wasn't the bill written beforehand?
Did you see the bill before they released the bill?
I did not.
I did not.
First time that I heard about the problems with the bill was when Chairman Mark Walker, I'm a member of RSC, the Republican Study Committee as well.
And he had some real problems with it when it was leaked.
And so I was absolutely a no on the bill until I got to meet with the president, the vice president.
And actually, I continued to be a no.
And I got a personal phone call from President Trump, and he made what I thought were some great conservative concessions to me and several others that were having problems.
Well, every Freedom Caucus member but one has now signed off on the bill.
That's exactly right.
And now we've got moderate Republicans who have problems with it.
And, you know, every one of us that there's 237 of us in the Republican Conference, we all represent different types of districts, some more moderate, some more conservative.
But we all ran to repeal and reform Obamacare.
So I would hope that these holdouts now would really do some introspection, some soul searching.
And like you, Sean, we should have had our ducks in a row.
And we've got to get this thing passed because we've got to get hundreds of billions of dollars out of repealing Obamacare and plow it right back.
It's almost a trillion dollars, right?
That's right.
It's between $800 billion and a trillion.
Unbelievable.
Is there anything that you see?
Any other obstacles?
Are the Republicans going to learn their lesson in as much as they're going to let people read the bills before they release them?
Will they build a consensus bill and not put the public and the president and the country through the painful debate, public debate that they had over health care?
Are they going to learn anything from this?
I certainly hope so.
This should be a great lesson to all of us.
When I ran for Congress, that was the number one issue.
That was in 2014.
And I'm a health care provider.
I'm a dentist.
And that was the biggest issue we had in 2014, to repeal and replace it with something that would give America freedom and choice and market forces to enable us to return to the great health care we've known in the past and even improve it.
So I got to run here, Congressman.
I appreciate you updating us on all of this stuff.
Congressman Babin of Texas, thank you so much for being with us.
800-941-Sean is a toll-free telephone number.
All right, news roundup information overload coming up in the next hour.
Camille Paglia joins us.
Let's get to our phones.
In the meantime, we got Jose is in Miami.
Jose on WIOD.
What's going on, sir?
How are you?
Pretty good, Sean.
How are you doing?
I'm good.
What's going on?
Hey, you know, it's like deja vu all over again.
During Obama's term, the Republicans were craving spineless and gutless.
Now that they have the White House, they're still craving spineless and gutless.
What is it with the Republicans?
I can't answer it.
I mean, I can't excuse it.
It's inexcusable.
They were ill-prepared for the moment and to lead.
And, you know, comparing and contrasting, the president is, you know, moving at the speed of light, the speed of Trump.
He's checking off his list.
He's keeping his promises, even laying out, you know, future bills, getting everything in place to get finished.
And, you know, these guys are so weak and so feckless and lacking any such urgency that the rest of us have in life.
It is beyond frustrating.
Look, I'm telling you right now, and the polls show this.
They keep this up.
There is going to be, it's not an if, it's when.
The public is going to pop.
They're going to be furious.
You know, Congress's approval rating now is what, 12%.
You just, it's going to be 2% by the time this is all said and done if they don't get their act together.
There's no more excuses.
You know, now you've got, you got every Freedom Caucus member that worked, Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan on this program this week.
They work with the study group.
They work with the Tuesday group.
They work with the moderates.
There's no urgency in leadership.
They can't seem to get the job done.
Now, if all these moderates are so supportive of Paul Ryan, well, they better understand Paul Ryan's job is now in jeopardy if this keeps up.
Just a fact.
I'm just stating fact here.
Reality would be the people will start demanding that they get a new speaker, they get new leadership, and they get a sense of purpose rather than what we've seen in the last hundred days, the gang that can't shoot straight.
And I appreciate the call.
It's the only thing I can tell you.
Oh, my buddy Steve Ronabeck is on.
He was on earlier this week.
We were talking about his son, Grant, who was killed.
He's a 21-year-old, brave American, great kid, working overnight in a Mesa, Arizona convenience store, and his son was killed by an illegal immigrant that had already been convicted of kidnapping and holding hostage a woman for a week.
Thoughts and prayers always remain with you, Steve.
We admire your courage and your fight.
What's going on?
Hey, Sean, thanks for having me.
Hey, you know, our conversation the other day, and I appreciate the fact that you let me and Andy Biggs come on your show, but you and I had had a conversation about the new voice office.
You know, I just wanted to tell you what's going on, something that's come up.
Yesterday, I got a lot of us got a message from the new voice office that some of the liberal media and some of these liberal activist groups have taken to Twitter to incite people to prank call the new voice hotline.
Are you serious for the victims of crimes by illegal immigrants?
They want to prank call it?
They spent all day yesterday prank calling the new voice hotline.
So they pretty much tied up the line so that actual victims couldn't get through.
Well, I have a good idea because, I mean, the government has the ability, if we're going to use our NSA for nefarious purposes, well, let's say those people that are trying to clog up the lines and obstruct justice for individuals, maybe we'll find out who they are and maybe they should get a call from the government and say, oh, if you're not really a victim, why would you be so mean to the families of victims of crime and obstruct an investigation and obstruct the opportunity to help people?
I don't know.
There might be something there.
We might be able to, there might be wiretapping laws or some type of laws that might be applicable here.
I'll have to ask an attorney.
Yeah, I mean, you know, there's a woman named Pam Campos that works for the Common Defense Fund that basically is calling this new hotline a xenophobic registry.
You know, you know what's sad about this?
They have no idea what your life has been like since you lost your son, Grant, a few years ago.
They have no idea what it's like to live with the pain that you have lived with now for all of these years.
And anybody that can be that lacking in empathy and that psychotic and sociopathic, you know what?
I have no sympathy for sick, twisted, miserable people like this.
None whatsoever.
You're almost without a heart.
Now, my best advice for you, and we'll keep on this, if this continues, we'll figure out a way to be able to bypass those people that are responsible for this.
But I'm up on a break here, Steve.
You're in my prayers, as is your son and your family.
Thank you, sir, for updating us.
I'll continue to stay on this, I promise.
All right, Camille Pagli is next.
News Roundup, information overload, and more of your calls straight ahead.
In light of the president finally keeping promises to vets yesterday, which should, again, go down his checklist of promises he's keeping.
Everything he can do on his own, he is getting done.
And we've got to give him credit for all of that.
And he was able to order an executive order to hold VA employees finally accountable.
What we have done with our nation's vets is nothing short of a national disgrace.
The executive order created an office of accountability and whistleblower protection at the Department of Veteran Affairs.
It establishes specific online ability that identifies barriers preventing the VA from firing employees who are not performing.
You know, think of what they've done here.
We've had veterans die waiting to get the care and the coverage that we promised them that they would get.
They'd have two lists.
It was a case I remember.
This one was out in Arizona.
They called the family and said, oh, we're ready for you now.
And it was a year later and the guy had died waiting for the care that the nation promised those that went to fight bleed for us.
It's unbelievable.
Anyway, beautiful, touching song.
All right, 800-941-Sean Tolfrey, telephone number.
You want to be a part of the program.
All right, as promised, let's get into our busy phones here.
Want to take a lot of calls.
Ellie is in Louisiana.
Ellie, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Thanks.
Thanks.
I need to talk to Dr. Sean.
Uh-oh, Dr. Hannity, what's up?
Dr. Hannity is back in the house.
Do we still have that introduction, Jason?
I think we got an introduction.
People that need help, insight, sort of like that friend next door having a beer or a cup of coffee and you got to unload something, this is the place to be.
It's called Dr. Hannity's office.
Dr. Doctor, give me the news.
I got to thank you.
In Midtown Manhattan, the doctor is in.
That's right.
Dr. Hannity's ready to help you with your relationships, your politics, anything you want to talk about.
All right.
I always say let not your heart be trouble.
All right, Ellie in Louisiana, what is it I can do for you?
The phony doctor is in the house.
What's going on?
I only play one on radio.
Then I'll do this.
I'll do the phony crying.
Well, it's like it's Dr. Hannity.
No, I'm just kidding.
You know, I honestly, my heart just dropped.
I didn't know I thought you had me.
Go ahead.
Well, I thought I'd do the crazy crying if you're going to do the crazy doctor.
All right.
So I'll tell you a story recently.
There were two women at work that I love and adore, and they work in the makeup and hair department.
And on two different days within two weeks, they were both crying, you know, for different reasons.
You know, one has an elderly parent.
The other was sick, and her father was sick, and they're both upset.
So I said, you got to stop crying.
Please, please, please.
And in each case, I pulled out $100.
They said, this is fun money.
Go have fun and go take whatever's bothering you off your mind.
Now, every day I walk in the makeup and hair department, and they're wonderful people, and they all start phony crying, say, oh, I'm so upset.
And I'm like, all right, I got it.
Thank you.
I'm setting a bad precedent here trying to be nice.
Anyway, what's going on?
Okay, Dr. Hannity.
Well, it's my birthday, and you can still send me the $100.
What's wrong?
What's on your heart today?
Haiti's sister who lives in Colorado.
She has not talked to us since November.
She said she couldn't talk to any of us because we were a bunch of bigots over here in the East.
And she couldn't have a conversation with us.
She talked to my mother since, but I'm thinking, really?
You're going to throw away 40 years of family over an election for a bad person that you wanted to vote for?
I got to be honest.
This is not the only instance of this.
I've been told this is happening in a lot of places.
How close were you to your sister?
How close were you to her?
Well, I used to talk to her every week.
She always wanted us to visit.
And, you know, we couldn't get out there.
My other sister went and she said nobody comes to visit.
And I said, Well, you know, what happened with Marie?
She drove her and her husband out there.
Did that not count for anything?
Well, number one, you have a great sense of humor about it.
I mean, this is really her problem and not yours.
I mean, like, for example, you didn't abandon her when Obama was president.
She's abandoning you because she doesn't like your politics.
And that shows a level of, well, a little bit unbalanced and unhinged there.
You know, sounds like a snowflake liberal in the case of your family.
But what I would do is this.
You want my real, I'm going to give you real heartfelt advice.
I'd reach out to your sister, write her a heartfelt letter and say, okay, it's X number of days since the election.
I have not heard from you.
You don't want to be a part of our lives, apparently, because you don't like where we stand politically.
I personally am not backing down my political opinions, but why would you allow politics to get in the way of a loving family?
And then I would just leave it in her hands: say, look, I will respect your wishes.
I won't be bothering you.
I won't be begging you to be my sister again, but I'm always here from you as soon as you want to grow up and reestablish the relationship.
How's that?
It's so good.
Right?
I'm good, right?
Blessed are the peacemakers.
You ought to create postcards.
I'm killing.
Oh, my gosh.
You know what?
I'll tell you what else we're going to do.
Linda, what could we send out to her sister?
No, we should send it to her.
I don't want to send anything to her.
I don't want to send anything to your cranky sister.
I mean, she sounds mean.
Ellie sounds like the one I was.
You're in a rush, so I can't condone you sending to her because she just doesn't want to.
Yeah, well, I'm not going to send that.
But she thinks that I don't have a brain because I only listen to you.
Oh, wait a minute.
I got a great idea.
Linda, what are we going to send?
I got a great idea.
Linda, what are we going to send?
I think that we should send a football.
And I think that we should send a Trump pen, maybe several.
Okay.
All right.
This is what we're going to do.
I am going to send an autographed football and book to your sister and a Trump pen, the talking Trump pen.
And I'm going to say, you know, stop being mean to your sister and start listening to the president.
And she'll be able to with the pen.
And then I'll send it to you because you'll actually like it.
All right.
So I'm going to send all of that to your sister.
Stop being mean to your family.
And then probably I've just ruined the relationship forever, but that's her problem.
It's not your problem.
Listen, I am not going to beg anybody in my life to like me.
I mean, for example, Linda Love hates me.
Before the show today, I said something to her that annoyed the living daylights out of her, and she's had a sour look on her face ever since the show started.
Yesterday, she aggravated me.
So is that true, Linda?
I think I look great right now.
I don't know.
I mean, what do you guys think in the studio?
Do I look angry?
She's never looked better.
Okay.
All right.
The people in St. Linda.
She's got them wrapped around her finger.
I cannot count on them.
They don't work for me in their minds.
They work for me.
These people are larger than life.
They don't fit around my finger.
Okay.
Your season is eroding your brain.
That's what's happening.
Okay.
Everybody in there is turned on the boss.
As you can see, I have no control of my staff.
And what's that, boss?
I thought she was the boss.
You're on thin ice here.
You.
You're the latest.
You're the first to go.
It depends on the problem.
Then we figure out who the boss is.
Yeah, exactly.
But if, like, when they screw up, they go run into mama and she protects them and it's ridiculous.
And then I'll say to her, all right, who screwed this up?
And she'll say, I did.
And meanwhile, it's not her job.
I say, I know it's not you.
Who are you protecting?
I did.
You don't need to worry about it.
I fixed it.
That's what she says.
Then I'll start asking again.
It's on a need-to-know basis.
That's right, Ellie.
Okay, but why don't I get to know it's my show?
I'm the boss.
Because when I fix things for you, it's on a need-to-know basis for other people.
So you know.
You know what that sounds like when I fix things for you?
It's like when I fix you tea and honey and then you toss it into a trash can like it's nothing.
Well, because I didn't like the tea and honey because it tasted horrible.
All right, so stay on the line.
We're going to take care of you.
We appreciate it.
Oh, Linda, did you see what Velma put up there on Twitter yesterday?
I did not.
Okay, I retweeted it.
I wanted to cry.
Maybe later in the show, I got to talk to Velma.
You know me, I never cry.
I'm a heartless, miserable conservative.
I'm just not a crier.
It's not me.
Oh, I see it now.
I see it now.
It stopped me in my tracks.
And she changed her Twitter picture to you and her.
Yeah, I know.
It's pretty cute, right?
Listen, I wish she would have.
That could have been my prom date, and she wouldn't go with me.
All right, we got to take a quick break.
We'll come back.
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All right, let's get back to our busy telephones.
Josh is in Lynchburg, Virginia, the home of Liberty University, where Donald Trump will be the commencement speaker.
What's up, Josh?
How are you?
I'm doing good, Sean.
Thanks for asking.
Did you go to Liberty or what?
Virginia Tech, really.
Great school.
What's going on?
I just want to ask a lot of seniors coming out, doctoral students, PhDs, all those sorts of people graduating.
And we're just looking for some advice, you know, to go out there besides our commencement speakers, which are going to be good.
I think I'm not going to be able to go to LU graduation, so I just want to hear what you have to say as a conservative thinker.
All right.
Well, what did you get your degree in?
It would be English and professional and technical writing.
Okay, and this is a bachelor's, master's, doctorate.
Bachelor's.
Okay.
And you're not going to go further.
You're not going further in your education process, you don't think, now?
No, I'm a lifelong learner.
So far as I can say, if I'm going to go any further, I'd rather start off just going to work.
And if it happens, I need more education.
All right, here's the first most important question.
What are you most interested in?
What kind of, you know, remember when you do a profession or a job, and by the way, this being your first job, it doesn't have to be the right one right away, but what would make you happy to get up in the morning, get up, and go to work?
My happiness comes from communicating ideas from engineers and scientists and bringing them out to the public, making things easy for regular people to understand.
So you're like the bridge.
I kind of feel like I do the same thing.
I'm the bridge between Washington and reconciliation bills and the bird rule and cloture.
And I have to bring it down to brass tax for them and for the people and for those idiots in Congress who need to be reminded that most people have no idea what reconciliation is.
My best advice to you is try those companies that you most admire.
Try, don't worry about the money in the beginning.
I never cared about money ever in my career, ever.
I never really thought I'd ever have a chance of making it when I got into radio.
I just know I wanted to be at a radio station.
And just, you know, the other second biggest thing I'm going to tell you is you've got to be willing in life to take chances.
You've got to stand on a high dive.
Are you afraid of heights at all?
No, I've been diving off high things for a long time.
Okay.
What is one thing that fears?
Do you fear speaking in public?
No, I don't fear speaking in public.
Give me a fear you had.
Do you fear asking our girl out on a date?
No, I don't fear that.
Do you have any fear in life at all?
You're just perfect.
You're just the courageous.
I'm not perfect.
I fear the inability to deliver exactly what they want.
And that's good because the fear of failure is a great motivation.
Here's my advice: take chances.
Get on that high dive like you've been doing your whole life and don't be afraid to jump.
Maybe it's your own business.
Maybe it's a consulting business.
Maybe it's a bigger company that you thought you'd never have any chance at.
And go dazzle them and always under-promise and over-deliver.
All right.
I got a roll.
Appreciate your call.
Camille Paglia.
She'll put a smile on our face when we get back on this Friday edition and our Friday Florida Georgia Line concert series coming up in the next hour.
And to our detractors that insist that this march will never add up to anything.
You.
You.
Yes, I'm angry.
Yes, I am outraged.
Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.
I am a nasty woman.
I'm nasty like my bloodstains on my bed sheet.
Why are tampons and pads still taxed when Viagra and Rogan are not?
Is your erection really more than protecting the sacred, messy part of my womanhood?
Is the bloodstain on my jeans more embarrassing than the thinning of your hair?
No border, no nascence.
Deportation, no border, no nascence.
We've seen this in demonstrations in the Bay Area before.
The feeling is that the property damage, whatever it may be, is less costly than anybody getting hurt.
And so the police repeatedly, and in situations like this, take the tactic of standing back and hoping it's hard to get defused.
What happens here remains to be seen.
But this is, we've seen this before in the Bay Area.
The police are behind.
The glass is seen on the map.
They're not confronting the demonstrators.
They're not trying to stop them, at least they have this section.
This is going to be a joke, I do not believe anything about that.
You better fix this shit right now.
I literally am going to die.
I need an ambulance.
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So here it is, the 100-day mark, 100 days of FUs and walls around vaginas and vagina hats and blowing up the White House and I'm a nasty woman and protesting in sanctuary cities and obstruction and hysteria.
And then, of course, culminating last night with silencing yet another conservative, this one being Ann Coulter at Berkeley, the home of the free speech movement.
Joining us now is our friend Camille Paglio, author of the brand new book, It's Up on Hannity.com, Free Women, Free Men, Sex, Gender, Feminism.
Now, you are a feminist, right?
Oh, yes, Sean.
But I identify more with first wave feminism, which did not indulge in all this vile male bashing and victimization.
I think the women's movement is going very astray here.
We need to get back to the original principles of feminism, which is about empowering women, not donning this mask of victimhood and blaming men for all the problems in the universe.
Yeah, you know, here's a bizarre question.
For example, in my life, I have a son and I have a daughter.
And stay with me here.
Is it feminist of me or first-generation feminism?
Because I give my son and my daughter the exact same opportunities in life, the exact same speeches about they were born with talent and ability, and their job is to work hard, find their passion, find their talent, find their ability, and bring it to fruition and eventually serve other people.
Is that a little bit first-generation feminism that I treat my son and my daughter exactly the same?
No, I think that's exactly right.
Women have to step up to the plate and stop asking for special protections.
It's all this whining and screaming and this emotionalism.
And then women wonder why are they not being taken seriously in the workplace and promoted to high positions of power?
You know, get your act together.
Okay, all of this, the stuff that Madonna was doing, I admire Madonna as an artist, but this is embarrassing.
This kind of stuff is just setting feminism back.
Yeah, and to me, it's actually hurting the movement.
And if anything, you know, with all the obstruction and all the protests and all the hysteria and all the crying and all the screaming and all the name-calling, I don't hear any solutions.
And there's real, real suffering going on in America.
You know, I'm a broken record, Camille.
I talk about because I care about 95 million Americans out of the labor force, 50 million in poverty, 50 million on food stamps, real people, real lives, real suffering, real problems that really need to be solved.
I don't hear any solutions coming from the left side of the aisle at all at this point.
Yes, I'm embarrassed.
I'm a supporter of Bernie Sanders.
I'm a Democrat.
I voted for Jill Stein in this election.
How did I become friends with you?
This is almost like ridiculous.
I'm appalled by this.
All right, that's fine.
You just saved yourself.
Go ahead.
I'm appalled by the navel-gazing that's going on.
It's absolutely true that unfortunately our public school education system as well as higher education have strayed from presenting world history, world geography, economics, okay, to our young people.
So everything is emotion.
Everything is looking around us in the immediate present, seeing defects in the freest country ever created in the history of the world, and somehow portraying Western civilization as a source of oppression rather than liberation of the individual, creation of free thought, free speech rights.
So, I mean, I think we have just this ignorance that has now extended even to the faculty.
And I speak as a faculty member, teaching in the classroom for 46 years.
You know, the great irony here is that Berkeley was supposed to be the home of the free speech movement and attempts to allow communist professors to have a right to express their views on a college campus.
But, you know, the same location now, look what happened, a near riot breaks out when Milo Yiannopoulos tries to speak at the Berkeley campus.
You saw what was unfolding this week with Ann Coulter.
What is your reaction to all of that?
Well, the free speech movement led by Mario Savio occurred in spring 1964.
I entered college that fall.
Nothing was more inspiring to me.
I am humiliated by the behavior of Berkeley.
Janet Napolitano, who is the president of the University of California, said nothing to that fascist outbreak in the streets.
I'm not a supporter of Milo particularly, but that was an outrage.
The police did nothing to say.
It was like crystal knocked, for heaven's sakes.
It's an absolute outrage.
And Senator I admire, Senator Dianne Feinstein from California, Representative Nancy Pelosi, said nothing.
There was nothing from the presidents and the faculty of the United States.
It's grotesque, this sort of silence.
This will not hold up well in history.
One of the things that always interested me about you, and I really came to know a lot more about you because Matt Drudge would always print your columns and I'd read them.
And they're very well written.
I do need a thesaurus half the time when I'm reading them.
But obviously, you're a great intellectual.
You're very passionate.
You're very articulate in arguing your positions.
But you're also somebody that has incredible intellectual curiosity because you would, on the other hand, you would listen to talk radio shows like this and Rush and Mark and others.
Absolutely.
For heaven's sakes.
The conservative talk radio was offering a counterview of all public issues from the 1990s on.
The only reason talk radio rose was because of the stranglehold that the urban PC liberals had on the media.
I speak as a Democrat.
And I speak also as a professor of media studies.
It was outrageous how one-sided our media had become.
All this blame of talk radio, excuse me, it was the New York Times and the networks and NPR that created talk radio, the need for talk radio.
You know, here's the environment we work under, and I'm not sure if you've ever heard me say this.
If I'm repeating myself, so be it.
That's part of the job.
But all of us in talk radio know this to be the environment we work in, and that is that every hour of every day, every talk show host, myself included, every hour of every day of the Fox News channel, you have people paid.
By the way, you're a total lifeless loser.
You need an existence beyond this.
But they get paid to monitor every word we say in the hope that they can catch a word, a phrase, a sentence that they can then mobilize and create some type of boycott movement, really, which is all an attempt of liberal fascism to destroy us and shut us down and silence our voices.
I think there's an attempt now, an orchestrated, funded effort to destroy the Fox News channel.
And I don't think I'm paranoid.
What are your thoughts?
Well, ever since Hillary Clinton married David Brock, the evil Machiavelle, we've had this kind of kind of underhanded doings going on.
I wouldn't be surprised.
It's just, for me, talk radio, all radio, is a populist medium.
It allows the voices of callers, even sports radio allows working class voices to be heard.
Whereas NPR and PBS are upper-middle-class, bourgeois, genteel organs, that these people think that they speak for the working class, using all this effete, epicene kind of intonations that come from the upper 1% of the United States.
So I think everyone who really is interested in free speech issues should be defending talk radio for sure.
Well, I would think so, but it's not that.
This is a well-financed, orchestrated campaign to silence everybody that is a conservative in the country.
To me, it is liberal fascism.
You know, you talk about the working class.
I feel like it's people like myself.
By the way, I have a working class background that are championing their cause every day.
And people like Donald Trump, the reason he won is he resonated with working class Americans, that this burdensome bureaucracy and burdensome government regulation is choking off any opportunity we have as a country to compete and build and manufacture in this country anymore.
Yeah, I've actually heard from people who know Trump in New York that he feels more at home with construction workers at his sites than he does with the actual money elite that he belongs to, economically speaking.
And I think that is really true, is that the way Trump speaks, the way he orates and so on, even his asides, his meandering way of presenting ideas at rallies and so on, all of that is a populist style.
I think I too could hear it because I come from an Italian immigrant family.
All four of my grandparents and my mother were born in Italy.
We would have been friends growing up.
We would have gotten in trouble together.
I would have dragged you into more trouble than you've ever been.
And my grandfather worked in a shoe factory, so that was my earliest years among the factory workers of the Endicott Johnson shoe factory.
So, yes, even though my PhD is from Yale, I have always resisted that kind of arrogant, elitist facade of sophistication that now dominates our media.
All right, take a break here with Camille Paglia.
We'll come back with her on the other side of all of this.
Her book, Free Women, Free Men, Sex, Gender, Feminism.
Still not sick of winning.
Making America great again.
Sean Hennery's on the air right now.
As we continue, Camille Paglia is with us.
Her book, Free Women, Free Men, Sex, Gender, and Feminism here.
So we're at the 100-day mark of Donald Trump, and you're one of the few people on the left that I think really has a grasp and a handle and a fundamental understanding, as you were describing when we went to break.
His son calls him a blue-collar billionaire, Don Jr.
I think that's an accurate description.
Well, you know, look, I mean, I keep telling people, my fellow liberals and so on, that an election occurred.
Okay, this is a democratic country, and now we are waiting to see, you know, whether this administration can govern and produce the results that have been promised.
Okay, so I simply don't understand the strategy of my party, the Democratic Party, in not coming up with any solutions to the problems.
Obstruction.
That's it.
Yeah, I mean, it's not a good narrative.
And listen, I can criticize my party.
The Republican Party has become a party that is afraid of their own shadow, no backbone.
Their knees wobble, and they seemed ill-prepared this hundred days for the governing opportunity they've been asking for for eight years.
It's beyond frustrating.
Trump's doing his job, fulfilling every promise he can.
And then you've got the Congress, and they seem incapable of building consensus around a bill that they promised for eight years, which is repealing and replacing Obamacare.
Well, Republican politicians have for years seemed inept at being able to articulate any kind of foundational values.
They've kind of left that to talk radio.
I think that's one of the reasons for the success of talk radio.
It's kind of filled the gap.
Whereas the Democrats are the party of Hollywood, it's the party of the TV networks and glitzing glam.
And so the Democrats have a great line.
I mean, they're able to produce a very slick kind of propaganda, but then they don't follow with results.
So this is the problem, is we have this gap between the two parties.
One is interested in actual practical reality, the GOP, but is almost mute and it's an inability to present a program or to counter, in fact, the ridiculous democratic tactics such as this stupid idea about the war on women.
Any objection.
Now, I am absolutely down the line pro-choice.
Nevertheless, to say that objections to abortion, to say that the pro-life stand is anti-woman or part of a war on women is absolute crap.
That Democratic women politicians have been cracking out now for years.
Now, this is one of the pieces actually in my current book where I, as a pro-choice advocate, I argue that the moral high ground is actually on the pro-life side and that feminism has failed thus far in terms of providing a kind of ethical or philosophical grounding for its own pro-choice position.
For me, it's simple.
It's not a war on women as much as you have a lot of choices before you engage in sexual activity.
A lot of choices.
Usually there's a number of articles of clothing that you pull off before you get to that moment.
I do believe human beings do have control over their own behavior, as outdated as that idea is.
And so there are a lot of choices leading up to it.
I just happen to believe that life begins at conception.
And I do make exceptions for people that don't have an opportunity for a choice.
And I think that's fair-minded, although maybe not as pure a position as some people that says a life is a life is a life.
Right.
And another thing I'm saying is that it's up to women when they arrive at the college campus to take full responsibility for themselves and their own sexual behavior, including signals and messaging they may be offering through the clothing choices and their speech patterns.
But today, I'm a minority.
We've got to pick this up another day, but I would love having you on the program.
We're just out of time.
Camille Pagley, come back often.
Free women, free men, sex, gender, feminism on Hannity.com.
Thank you so much.
All right, 800-941-Sean, toll-free telephone number.
We're going to stay with the phones for this final half hour this Friday.
I couldn't believe, I nearly, I nearly got emotional when I read on Twitter, and then I retweeted it.
If you go to that Sean Hannity, you can see what my good friend Velma in Vegas wrote about me and my adopted nephews and our fun and our time together.
You know, some people thought it was self-serving that I put that up on Twitter.
Oh, you're bragging.
I'm like, no, I'm very proud of the fact that I have two beautiful nephews, and I'm proud of us being friends.
And you wrote something very, very touching to me, and it meant a lot to me.
And, you know, after a tough week, I'm like, you know what?
This really made me feel good.
I can't believe how nice you were to me.
I mean, were you sick yesterday or something?
No, but how you doing, honey?
Velma, how are you?
I shouldn't say, honey.
How you doing, Sean?
No, I want your husband to hear.
You know, there is one part of the story you want to get into.
My husband, I told my husband.
He read it.
He knows all about it.
And he was glad I did it.
Wow.
How come your husband never wants to meet me when I'm out in Vegas?
Because my husband, Sean, if you ever meet this man, my husband is a wonderful.
I'm not lying.
He's the best person.
I know.
He is wonderful.
Does he think like I have?
I'm telling you, Sean, he just don't, he's just not a person that he doesn't want to be on social media.
He's just a quiet man.
I mean, he's not thinking that like I'm going after his wife, right?
He's not thinking anything untoward.
But he's not thinking.
He didn't even want me and the boys on social media.
But you're not listening.
But he doesn't think there's anything untoward between us, does he?
No, if he did, you think he would let me come to New York and come to see you?
That's true.
Trust me, because he knows I love him.
And he knows I wouldn't do.
And on top of that, Sean, if you were a man like that, I wouldn't come around you anyway.
A man like me.
Well, I'm not like that.
You know, it just, you just, I felt so bad.
I read something and I didn't like it.
And I was so disheartened.
I was so hurt.
And I said, you know what?
I'm not going to be silent.
I do not care what people think.
I don't care how many people unfollow.
I don't care what they say.
I'm going to get out there and tell my truth about the man that I know.
It really really.
It really touches me.
You are a, I've never seen anything like it.
I'm telling you, nobody but Jesus.
It ain't just a lot of gifts and stuff.
Listen, now I will.
I'm talking about the gifts.
It's you.
The way you take up time with us.
The way you take up time.
Velma, you're not going to be afraid of my adopted family.
I love my family.
I take care of my family.
That's what I do in my life.
No, no, no.
In my lifetime, I never dreamed I would meet somebody like you and my children.
They love you so much.
And I do too.
And you know what?
I tell you, and it's so funny because I tell you I love you.
And you say, you know, you sent me a video.
You said, I tell you, I'm in love with my husband.
And I love Sean Hannah.
But I want to meet your husband.
Now, Marcel and Anthony, you sent me a video of my nephews, and we sent them out the motorbikes.
But I did send out a big disclaimer.
I said, Velma, I said, you got to watch them.
You got to make sure they get lessons.
I don't want those kids getting hurt on those stupid motorbikes.
You did.
You know what?
I tried to talk him out of it.
And you, when this kid told you what he wanted, you just said, okay.
Well, I assumed that he had asked his mother.
Okay, Sean.
It was on your phone.
You know, goodwill.
This kid goes behind my back, texts you, everything else.
You know that.
By the way, come on.
How cute is that that your son takes your phone and he texts his Uncle Sean when you're not looking?
I think that's the coolest thing ever.
That is not cool.
That is so cool.
No, you know, the better story, and I don't remember if it was Anthony or Marcel.
The better story is: so your husband, you know, cuts the lawn, and they see their dad, and he puts the gasoline in the engine, and he's, you know, he's firing up the lawnmower, and so he wants to help his dad, and he didn't know the difference between gasoline and water.
I think he was like three years old at the time, right?
Yeah, hell yeah.
Right.
So he takes water and puts it in the lawnmower, and you put him in prison.
You put him in his room.
You wouldn't let him out of his room until I had to put up bail money and get him out.
That's true.
That's true.
But the kid was trying to help his father.
Why were you being mean to the kid?
It's just like if the kid wants to text him, if the kid wants to text his uncle, Marcel and Anthony are allowed to text me anytime they want.
See, Sean, that's why you the author and I'm the mother.
Yeah, that's right, because I'm right and you're wrong.
Why would you forbid your sons from texting their uncle?
That's not fair.
That's mean.
Sean.
That's mean.
That's not mean either.
I have to control these kids.
They're nine and ten years old.
Right.
And well, it's not like they're texting, you know, girls.
It's not like they're texting, you know, curse words.
It's not like they're doing anything bad.
They're just texting their uncle.
They're saying hello.
I'll try to tell these children.
And see, you haven't helped in.
I said, Uncle Sean is very busy.
Uncle Sean, those who are.
So Uncle Sean is never that busy for his nephew.
I said, you can't be taking advantage of him.
They're not taking advantage of me.
I only give things if I want to give them.
If I didn't want to give it to him, I wouldn't.
We can't afford that.
They will say, Uncle Sean can.
That's right.
Because you cater to them.
You cater to them too much.
And I've told you that.
Well, okay.
So you don't think every kid deserves an Xbox?
You don't think every kid just sit up there everything.
You can't just cater to everything they say.
Okay, I don't give them everything.
I didn't give them a jet.
I didn't give them a house.
They haven't asked for it yet.
Listen, Velma, you got to promise me.
You got to promise me.
We got to make a deal here, and then I got to hang up and move to other calls.
You got to promise me that whenever the boys want to text, that you'll let them have your phone or text me.
I don't care any time, day or night.
If I'm up, I'll text back.
Okay, then.
All right, we have a deal, right?
Yeah, we do.
All right, Velma, I love you.
What you wrote about me touched me deeply.
Thank you very much.
I don't deserve your friendship.
You know what?
And I tell you what, and I always want to do something for you, and all you ever say was pray for me.
And I do pray for you and your family.
That's all I want.
And I know you're going to have the desires of your heart because you are a giving, wonderful, caring, respectful.
I can't even, oh, God, you just, you're awesome.
All right.
Well, listen, you're awesome, too.
So are the boys.
Say hi to Marcel and Anthony and your husband, everybody over there.
I met your sister, too.
She's nice.
And everybody else.
All right.
Thank you, Velma.
We love you.
So I love that woman.
I don't know from the right, Linda, from the first time she called.
Did you read that on Twitter?
I did.
It was beautiful.
Are you in a bad mood today?
I'm in a great mood.
You don't sound like it.
You don't sound up.
You're giving me short answers, snappy answers.
And that means, first of all, give me.
No, I'm just efficient.
I'm efficient.
Why are you being efficient today?
I was just writing something down for the show, so I just was quickly answering.
But let's have a conversation.
Let's talk.
How are you doing today?
Well, I got through.
It's a fantastic show, by the way.
Here we are at the end already.
It flies by.
Forget about it.
It's like I can't even handle it.
Like butter.
Like butter.
You wanted me to be off the last two days.
I tried very hard.
Oh, you aggravated the daylights out of it.
That's my job.
No, that's not your job.
Well, it's a two-way street.
The more you give, the more I get.
No, no, no.
Your job is not to aggravate me.
Of course it is.
No, it's not.
Do a much better show when I piss you off.
So you want me in a state of anger all day?
I'll die young.
Well, I mean, only the good die young, right?
All right, I'm not in naturally an angry person.
I'm pretty measured.
You do live in New York.
It's a permanent state.
I am not in your state.
You are.
No, we are all in the state of New York.
No, but you can't.
I am not in the state of mind you.
Remember that you asked me to talk to you, and this is what happened.
Listen, if somebody's texting in front of you and walking in the street and they're not walking fast enough, you're ready to knock them over.
I do knock them over.
Exactly.
I'm not like that.
I'm sorry.
All right, big time AJ, Houston, Texas.
What's going on, baby?
How are you?
Big time, Sean Hannity.
Hey, we love Elma.
We love her today.
Oh, my gosh, she's so awesome.
I know we don't want to lose Linda, but I sure would love her to be Trump's press secretary.
God almighty, that was so awesome.
You want Velma to be Trump's press secretary?
Hey, and wait.
Trust will never get a word in that voice.
First of all, they shut up.
Hey, Linda, I absolutely love it.
Linda, would you do that?
Absolutely.
By the way, they couldn't handle her a day.
The media would absolutely go insane.
By the way, they would probably appreciate me more.
They would say, wow, Hannity really is a very patient fellow.
First of all.
Read quick, Sean.
Where's all the protests when Obama did his speeches?
Oh, nobody's turned out.
So we know what the rat's doing.
And quickly, everybody for tomorrow, Trump's one in the day, tweet out and say how great that man is.
And then with the Republicans, we better get some doggone B-A-L-Ls and get behind the man because we will when it's time.
All right, big time AJ.
Have a great weekend, my friend.
Love you.
You're the best.
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