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All right, so how bad do I sound on the air?
Linda is like, take off, take off.
You gotta take off.
I'm not taking off.
I don't take off just because I'm coughing up my half my lung every time that I cough.
Why why do you always get in arguments with me?
I'm not feeling good.
And then you start arguing with me about I need to take off.
There's something wrong with me.
The world continues to spin, whether I'm here and go ahead.
Tell everybody what you've been yelling at me for the last hour.
Well, why don't we take a poll?
How many of you don't want to do that?
Let's take a poll, America.
How many people are going to be able to do that?
America, would you like your coworker or your boss to come to work sick, make you sick, coughing up alarm?
I'm in a different room.
You're hacking up Logis.
It's a lovely sight.
No one is going to give you a hard time about taking one day off.
So America, I am not go on Twitter, go on Facebook, call us at 800-941 Sean.
You're super.
We would love to hear your support for Sean's Day off.
I pay you a lot of money.
You asked me to drive me nuts.
You open the microphone.
Because you've been yelling at me for an hour, telling me how stupid.
I would yell at you for more if I had more time.
Okay, but now you have to turn off your mic.
I I you know, here I am.
I'm not already not feeling good.
I am every time I cough up, it seems like half my lungs are coming up with it.
I took an antibiotics.
Um, you know, hopefully one day it'll kick in and work.
It so far hasn't done it.
The reason is is because I'm not sure.
Because you won't take a day off.
No, that's not the reason.
A day off is not gonna make me better.
It's got process.
The process has to work itself out.
The reason is is because we went to Israel.
I didn't sleep on the way there.
I left I was up most of Wednesday night.
I landed 10 o'clock in the morning Israel time.
I worked till two in the morning Israel time, then was up at 6 a.m. after two and a half hours sleep, and I went a full day till midnight when I got on the plane to go home.
What, midnight Saturday morning Israel time landing in New York at 5 a.m. on uh New York Saturday time with very little sleep for all those days.
So I literally have I'm on uh it's the gas tank's on empty.
So I come in.
I just happened to mention to you, or you mentioned to me, you didn't like me.
You you actually saw me coughing and I had a bit of a Hillary coughing fit.
Go home, go home.
I told you not to be here.
You shouldn't be here.
I'm like, I'm a I am 55 years old.
I am a grown man.
I I if I'm dying, I won't show up.
You know what?
The average person listening to this program is like me.
If and by the way, I'm not infecting anybody at work.
Nobody is it's not even I talked to my doctor, I'm not even infectious anyway.
It's not you know what, Sean?
You know what?
You're right.
Thank you.
I think that that's the same thing.
It's now aggravated me for the calls for someone above my pay grade.
So I've called a professional.
Uh Dr. Josh Umber's on the line from Atlas MD, and he has he tends to agree with me.
Are you serious?
You did not call Dr. Josh.
I gotta keep her happy.
Yeah.
Dr. Josh, don't fall into her trap.
I am fine.
I promise you.
I took a total Z pack.
I took the whole thing.
What?
Yeah.
I said, you sound like you have the plague.
No, she's making it sound like I have to do it.
Now, Sean, don't you think that Dr. Josh is a wonderful doctor?
Don't we talk about how smart he is and how he could get America back on track?
This is a trap.
This is a now Dr. Josh, don't you think that the best thing for someone who has the cold or flu is rest?
Yes.
Right?
Just a grab doctor's orders.
Doctor, can I just say can I say something in my defense?
I don't like to take off sick.
I don't take off sick.
I work through it.
I pride myself on working through it.
I pride myself on not having the work ethic of those idiots in Washington who take off, you know, two weeks here, a month here, another four weeks here.
I don't want I don't live my life like that.
We've got eight years where we need you guys.
We got it.
I'll be here.
I'll be I'm not going anywhere.
No, we've got yeah, we need you for the long haul.
I'm in for do I sound like I'm incapable of doing the show today?
Do I sound like I'm I'm I'm lacking energy?
I'm not.
The light goes on, it's playtime, it's go time, I'm ready to go.
I have urgency.
That's until he hits the cough button.
Is there anything you would recommend that would make this go away faster?
Is there anything else besides um staying home and staring at the ceiling?
Tea and honey, maybe a hot toddy, but uh yeah, there's there's a couple of things.
What did you say again, Dr. Josh?
Was that tea and honey?
Tea and honey, tea and honey.
Sean, how do you feel about tea and honey?
Why don't we tell Dr. Josh what happened in the studio when I gave that to you?
So she brought in tea and honey yesterday.
I took one sip and I said, This is disgusting, and I threw it out and I said, Can I have a cup of coffee?
Well, uh coffee and honey, then yeah, whatever your fancy.
One of my favorite is, right?
It doesn't matter.
Why should I drink this?
And by the way, she she doesn't drink like Lipton tea.
She drinks this, you know, uh I I don't even understand.
Japanese green tea.
That's right.
I didn't grow up as an Irishman with Japanese green tea in my house.
I had Lipton tea in my house.
Well, you know what?
We actually Dr. Josh, you know what?
Um, nurse Jackie's on line five from Iowa.
Nurse Jackie, how do you feel about Sean?
I've lost control of the show.
Dr. Umbert, that's it.
I'm not promoting Atlas Medical again.
Well, you probably would appreciate that.
Why I can't say that.
What's up, Jackie?
How are you?
Yeah, I I I'm doing fine, but it doesn't sound like you're doing fine.
No, I'm fine.
I'm telling I just coughing a little bit, and the cough, doesn't that mean it's the end of the run?
You're coughing up woogies.
That's bad.
Yes, I'm coughing them up.
I can't lie.
I'm the bad patient, but I'm not gonna lie.
See?
Yep.
Yeah, you need a day off.
Wait a minute, but I took a full run of a Z Pack.
It's all done today.
Okay, well, that lasts for five more days in your system.
Right.
You might need a refill.
You mean do a second round of antibiotics?
Right.
You might need some steroids.
What kind of steroids are likely to help, though?
You most likely have a viral illness.
So it's it's more run its course and treat the symptoms.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, we get we we give out too many Z packs.
Okay, so then what would you recommend short of a Z pack?
Oh steroids can be helpful.
A shot of what?
Um wait a minute, a shot of what?
A shot of depomedril for inflammation from the coughing.
Yeah, no, it's it's hurting my back.
It's that kind of cough.
It hurts my your chest.
Yeah, but you're on pearls, yeah, steroids, antihistamines, tylenol, ibuprofen.
All right, Dr. Josh, will you talk to my uh my annoying producer who has set me up?
Uh if I was annoyed at the start of the show, no, I'm really annoyed because I'm just gonna tell you all, and I'm gonna say this respectfully.
Dr. Josh, you know I love you.
I'm so proud of what you've done and how you help people.
You have created concierge service for the average men and women in this country, and they deserve it, and you give them the best price and the best service, and it should be duplicated all over the country.
Jackie, if I ever need to be in a hospital, I want you to be my nurse.
I want you to make sure though you lock the door, and Linda, my producer is never allowed in the room.
Yeah, so what you're hearing, guys, is a big butt that even though he knows you're both right and Dr. Josh is smart and you're a nurse and you practice medicine, he's gonna ignore you both and come into work tomorrow so he can hack all over all of us.
It's great.
Okay, I've never by the way, I'm not infectious, am I, Doctor?
Yeah, you still could be.
Let's make a negotiation.
If North Korea decides to shoot a missile, you come in.
Otherwise, I think we can hand off the news day.
Sorry, doctor, you have a bad line.
You're breaking up on me.
Call Linda and tell her whatever medicine I ought to take, because I really have no idea.
All right, Linda.
Oh.
Oh.
You're welcome.
Oh, um you know, what else?
Do you want me to bring you in some tea and honey?
I'm gonna say on this.
When I'm sick, and I say I'm sick, I'm under the weather, not feeling well, you see me blowing my nose every 30 seconds and hacking up whatever you call those things.
I don't even know.
You know, part of my lung.
Just do me a favor.
And just say, Okay, can I get you anything?
And then don't argue with me about I whether I should be at work.
For an hour and a half, we've been arguing about this.
It is I am going I am not Congress.
I am not lazy.
I am not incapable of playing hurt.
And this is hardly hurt.
I can't stand athletes on on Super Bowl Day or Stanley Cup Day.
Oh, my back hurts.
I'm like, suck it up.
Get up.
Get out there.
We need you.
That's the name of the game.
So that's how I feel about this audience.
All right.
So I'm here.
I'm on the air.
We've got a great show.
We have Congressman Jim Jordan and Congressman Mark Meadows, both of the Freedom Caucus, the health care bill, they've come to an agreement.
They're actually, it was a meeting within the last hour of House Republicans, the latest update I had, and they are trying to whip the votes now that they have come up with the language.
The Freedom Caucus, I would argue, the study group in particular, those groups and the Tuesday group are most responsible with coming up with the language that looks like it's going to get this thing, you know, over the top and get the beginning of the repealing and the replacing of Obamacare.
And from what I've heard from Freedom Caucus friends of mine, as they're all saying the same thing, it's going to lower the cost of health care dramatically.
It's it's going to be part of a process, but ultimately it's going to drive down premiums, create competition, open up avenues for practices like Dr. Umber, who I used to like a lot in Wichita.
Dr. Umber literally has a practice where you pay 50 bucks a month as an adult, you get unlimited care.
You get he's negotiated directly with pharmaceutical companies, you get a 95 plus percent discount, and kids are 10 bucks a month, you get stitches and x-rays for 48 cents, and he has just totally reinvented how to do health care.
And he's now been able to work with other doctors and practices around the country.
And when you add health savings accounts and when you add catastrophic insurance, you know, catastrophic insurance for anybody, you know, that means if God forbid the accident comes that you you pray never happens, or cancer comes, which you pray never happens, or you have a heart attack, which God forbid you ever have, but those things are then covered, and your monthly premium is probably you can correlate that to whatever your deductible is.
You know, the more indeductible you're willing to pay, the less you're going to pay for the catastrophic insurance.
Then it becomes insurance.
You know, if God forbid, if you hit a car, you all right, you have to buy that person a car.
That's what the insurance is for, if God forbid something serious.
You know, we've gotten to a point where everybody wants to stub their toe, run to the doctor and say, okay, fix my toe, and I don't want to pay a $10 copay.
But under Obamacare, those doctors are gone, those options are gone, those co-ops are gone, you know, because literally it was written by the insurance companies.
It's an absolute disgrace.
Anyway, we'll get to that.
So we're making progress on that.
I want to go over in this great specificity in detail what the president's economic plan is.
The thing that you need to know and like the most about this is the president is keeping his promises.
He's keeping his word.
In other words, income taxes, seven brackets to three, ten, twenty-five, thirty-five percent.
Standard deduction is gonna double.
Sixty, three hundred dollars per singles and twelve six for for married couples.
I mean, so you're doubling the standard deduction, which is a really good thing.
I think it's actually seven hundred dollars, six hundred six thousand three hundred and fifty for singles.
It repeals the death tax.
That's a double taxation.
You work hard, you pay federal income tax, state income tax, you know, every tax imaginable your whole life, then you die, and then in comes the federal government.
They think they could take another bite at the apple of 40%.
Oh that is legalized stealing by your government.
How about you decide what you maybe you want to build a museum in your name?
Maybe you want to do something charitable.
Maybe you want to leave it to your grandchildren if they're not even born yet.
Maybe you want to give it to your kids.
It's none of the government's damn business after you've already worked and paid your taxes.
It's ridiculous.
Anyway, it does eliminate deductions except for the mortgage interest deduction, charitable donations, and retirement savings.
Those are the ones that impact people the most.
Yeah, high-tax states like New York, New Jersey, Connecticut will be hardest hit by the removal of the deduction for state and local taxes.
Great.
I got whacked again.
Anyway, it repeals the alternative minimum tax, provide maybe that'll put pressure on states to grow up and be like Texas and Florida, just a thought.
It uh also provides unspecified tax relief for families.
Oh, and by the Way, it uh you don't pay a penny.
As a matter of fact, 50 plus percent of wage earners in America won't pay one red cent in taxes, not one.
Repeals the 3.8% Obamacare tax on high earners, it cuts the corporate tax rate.
This is the biggest part of it, goes from one of the highest in the industrialized world to one of the lowest, 35 to 15 percent.
It allows the pass through businesses, which include most small enterprises to pay at the lower corporate rate instead of the top personal tax rate of nearly thirty of thirty-nine point six percent.
I mean, if you're looking for how to change the economy, if you don't if you want to change the economy, you want to get people out of poverty off of food stamps, and you want to get people working again in America.
This this is how you do it.
You know, this is now a conspiracy.
I I see I can't believe I'm not gonna spend more than the the three minutes in this segment on this, but I see what you're doing here.
You know, Claudia California will give you 15 seconds.
What is your vote?
15 seconds, first time caller.
Linda's right, I'm right.
This argument cannot be broken.
Think of it like Will Cow.
Get your ass out of there, go home.
Because boy, I'm gonna tell you right now, this stuff will come back and bite you on the butt, and you'll be down for longer than your bass back eat the lake.
I don't get down.
I hadn't slept for four days.
I have full on energy here today.
If anything, I'm more pissed off than usual because of her.
Tracy, Indiana, your 15 seconds to lecture me.
Go ahead.
Go home.
You're spiding germs, they're gonna have to fumigate.
There's no germs.
I'm in a room by myself.
They're in another room.
I haven't even gone in there today.
They don't have to come near me.
I promise you.
Uh Joe and Maryland, what's up, Joe?
Hey, brother.
Uh, I got your back on this one.
Um, I believe that I think you should you should freaking accept what you got and um and you go to work.
It's it's about a little bit of pride and work ethic, I think, that a lot of people um I don't necessarily know have.
Again, you have a mission, you have something to do today.
Just because you don't feel you know, the best doesn't mean you don't come to work to get your job done.
You get your job done.
You roll up your sleeves, you do your guy thing.
Listen, this is what we do.
We're hunters and gatherers.
That probably will alienate uh women out there that are fan.
You're a hunter and gatherer.
What do you think?
You're Flintstone and and Barney Rubble and Bam Bam.
Well, it's my job to bring home the bacon so we can cook the food.
And I feel an obligation not only to my family, but to all of you.
And this is not that big a deal.
And somebody's making it a bigger deal, but he snuck through on it.
I bet you you made him lie to get on and say that he was against me.
Uh let's say hi to who's next.
David is in uh Big Fork, Montana.
What's going on, sir?
Hey, you know, Sean, I'm like you.
I I run my own business.
I work six, seven days a week, twelve hours a day, and uh I I'm like you.
If I get sick, I suck it up and I go.
But you know what?
I've learned over the years, I'm about 10 years older than you.
My wife will handcuff me to the door so I don't go out when I'm sick, because she says every day that I work, I'm sick, I take two days off to get better.
So I just want you to take care of your own.
But my history is not that.
I've never I've never taken two days off to get better.
Well, I tell you what, I I literally take my hour, my lunch hour an hour later, so I can hear your first hour your show every day.
And I'm gonna mention that.
That's like the greatest compliment.
I'm I swear, if I have to drag myself in here tomorrow because of what you just said to me that you change your lunch hour, there's no greater compliment than any host can have.
I'm getting in here.
And when we come back, I'm now gonna focus on what I plan to do on the program, which is news and information and solutions to our country's problems, especially health care and the president's tax plan, which will help all of us.
We'll continue.
25 now till the top of the hour, 800 941.
Sean, look.
This is why I've been pushing so hard in the health care bill.
Because if the health care bill gets over the finish line, and at this point, I I've had numerous, numerous, numerous conversations with Freedom Caucus members.
Louis Gomer supports the new bill, assuming the language is right.
You always got to put that copy out because they're a bunch of lying swine and and dirtbags in Washington.
But as long as the the language is right, then that bill's gonna pass.
Now, the reason you needed to pass, you need to pass health care, even though they announced yesterday Steve Benutian and Cohn, the president's um tax plan, which is gonna get the economy rolled, because you save a trillion dollars.
And this this is major, major money.
Here's what's gonna work for the economy, and here's why I, you know, they can't get this done soon enough for me, because you get the trillion dollars in saving savings.
In the initial years when you start a tax cut, it's not instantaneous.
Oh, wow, we just cut taxes.
Look at the growth tomorrow.
Well, it takes a while for the law to go into effect.
Number two, it took Reagan three years to start the real economic engine of his tax cut proposal.
Look, look at look at the Reagan analogy example.
In the course of his presidency, we went from top marginal rates from 70 to 28%.
We literally, in that eight-year period of time, we doubled the amount of revenues that came into the federal government.
They had quarters of growth as high as eight percent, and so many in the six and seven and five percent range that it unleashed the potential of America's economy.
Now, what is the potential of America's economy today?
Well, you we got labor, we got ninety five million Americans out of the labor force, the lowest labor participation rate since the 70s.
I mean, that that is huge in and of itself.
So we can that that is a natural resource.
We've got untapped natural talent of great Americans.
We got another 50 million Americans in poverty and 50 million on food stamps.
Uh if we can get them back in the labor force and stop giving them money, but they even if they're not paying any federal income taxes, we're saving money because we're we're not taking care of people like we were.
So that's going to be a big cost.
Now, the president has already lifted the burden of regulation, especially on the energy sector and the coal sector and and is allowing fracking, and he went forward today and mentioned drilling, and we're going to increase domestic drilling and offshore drilling in the country.
You know, these are all great things because every energy job, energy is the lifeblood of our economy.
And if we can get our own energy, become energy independent in four to eight years, well, in the process of becoming energy independent, you're going to create all of those jobs in the fracking industry, the drilling industry, uh, oil industry, the gas, natural gas industry, et cetera.
And then all the pipelines and a associated, you know, uh jobs that that will come with it.
I mean, if they start doing serious drilling offshore, well, that's going to increase the restaurant business.
That's going to increase department store traffic, that's going to increase, you know, the local economy, wherever that happens to be.
And then housing starts are going to go up and so on and so forth.
You know, it's not trickled down.
It's just common sense.
You need the government to get out of the way.
And one of the things that government has been so burdensome on is America's ability to become energy independent.
That's just one, that's just one huge piece of the puzzle right there.
And the president now is unleashing America's own potential.
And I'm not even talking about national security benefits.
Why is it we have more energy, the lifeblood of our economy, under our feet, and we're still importing oil from countries like Saudi Arabia that hates our guts and other countries in the Middle East that make us more prone and more likely to get involved in foreign conflicts so we ensure the free flow of oil at a moderate market price so that the engine of our economy cannot be destroyed abroad.
It's key.
It plays a big part in our Middle Eastern policy, except for with the exception, of course, of defending our closest friend and ally Israel.
But energy independence here might give us and take pressure off us here at home in terms of involving ourselves at different times in whatever mess is created in the Middle East, which seems to be never ending.
Then you add to that what the president's doing here.
He's doubling the standard deduction, a married couple with an income of $24,000 or less, play pay no federal income tax.
Right now, 50% of wage earners in America pay zero income tax.
Nothing.
The evil top 1% pay nearly 40% of the taxes.
The top 10% pay, you know, 75% of the taxes.
It's not a matter of the rich not paying their fair share.
Now there's other issues, for example, I think one of the most important factors in all of this is we're going to incentivize business to build their manufacturing centers, their factories here in America.
I mean, it's really, really simple.
You know, if if you drop the top marginal rates from 35%, which is the top in the industrialized world to 15%.
And you allow pass-through businesses, in other words, businesses that are coming through America, but they're really their home port is here, there, or somewhere else.
Well, it's still bringing money and creating jobs in America.
So including many small enterprises, small businesses here in America, which provides the majority of jobs.
You allow them to pay the lower corporate rate, 15%, instead of the top personal rate at 39.6%.
Well, what does that mean?
That means, you know, the reason that President Trump was able to get on the phone and appeal to Ford and Chrysler Fiat and Carrier and GM and what's that Alibaba guy, Steve Ma wants to create a million jobs.
Why has he been able to appeal to these corporations to lock in here?
Is because A, he said he's getting rid of regulation, burdensome regulation, and he's doing it and has done it.
And B, he's saying to corporations, we're creating a business-friendly environment, so there's no longer a need for you to search for cheaper labor and deal with burdensome regulation because we're getting rid of all of that here, and we've got 95 million Americans sitting on the sidelines dying to get back into the labor force.
We have a lot of highly talented people.
And on top of that, you add the 10% repatriation rate.
In other words, multinational corporations.
That includes Apple, Microsoft, all these other big guys that seem so generous when they, oh, they get to donate billions to charity.
Great.
But they also park money overseas.
I'm not saying who, many of these corporations, no specifics.
They park money overseas.
Why?
Because they don't have a 35% corporate tax.
And so, you know, why did Ireland grow throughout those years?
Why was Ireland hated by a lot of other European countries?
Because they dropped their top marginal rates, their corporate rates, to some of the lowest in the industrialized world, and they they experience rapid growth for their economy.
It also repeals the alternative minimum tax.
They're gonna put this plan is going to provide unspecified tax relief for families with child independent care services.
So they're trying to take care of people that are in a very tough spot, and so that the government doesn't have to take care of them in the end.
Now, it also repeals the death tax.
Some of you will say, Wow, that's outrageous.
The rich get to keep their money.
I'm like, okay.
So hang on a second.
If you live in New York, this is the situation you live in.
You pay a 40% federal tax, top marginal rate.
If you make if you're making decent money, good money, decent money.
You're not even rich in New York if you make 100,000 a year, trust me.
And so the top marginal rate is 40% federally.
So you pay 40% in federal taxes, you pay a 10% state income tax.
You work for the city, I think it's what, 3% city income tax.
So now we're at 53%.
Then you pay, like I could tell you, I'm in the second highest property taxed county in the country in Nassau County.
Then you pay out.
I mean, if I told you how much I pay in property tax, it's insane.
It's legalized stealing.
Well, then why do you stay there, Hannity?
Come to Texas.
Come to North Carolina, come to South Carolina, come to uh Florida.
I'd love to.
The problem is this is where my job is.
So I have to stay.
So now you're up to, then you pay your sales taxes, then you pay your FICA taxes, probably never get any Social Security money, they'll means tested by the time I'm eligible.
And the reality is this is that you're paying 62 cents of every dollar you make in New York.
And then if you're like me, and you don't you're kind of risk averse when it comes to the issue of the IRS because they they want to they have a bullseye on my back, just like the leftist all propaganda destroy Trump media has a bullseye on my back, and every liberal fascist in the country wants my voice silenced.
So I kind of end up just paying my fair share, paying my taxes for the very purpose of just getting these people away from me and just not taking those chances.
I should probably refile.
I'm so annoyed at the latest audit.
Anyway, so 62 cents out of every dollar.
Okay, now I die.
Well, if I die tomorrow, the federal government takes 40% more of the little bit I saved after they took the 62% bite.
Government, that is.
So I pay 62 cents of every dollar, then I die.
Whatever I have left, they're going to take another 40%.
Here's the other catcher.
New York State has a estate tax.
There's another 10%.
So I pay 62 cents on every dollar in taxes, state, local, federal taxes, property taxes, FICA taxes.
And then I die, and then they come in and take, out of all that I might have managed to save, they'll take another half.
I I don't even know what to say.
How does anybody rationalize that?
This is not limited government.
This is womb to the tomb, cradle to grave, utopia.
That doesn't incentivize people to invest, to build businesses, to take risks that provide their fellow Americans opportunity.
I never got a job in my life from a poor person.
Not a penny.
Not one cent.
Anyway, they'll they'll go from seven brackets to three brackets, the proposed brackets of the president based on income, 10, 25, and 35% federal income tax.
And it's not good.
It's just as annoying.
Okay, I got a new phone.
Ooh, this new phone.
Okay.
Anyway, so that's where we are.
And there's other issues we're going to get to today.
Now we'll get the latest on healthcare with Jim Jordan and we'll check in with Mark Meadows of the Freedom Caucus.
By the way, Ann Coulter sent me a note last night, made wanted me to make clear, and I knew this, but Anne did not cancel Berkeley.
Berkeley canceled her.
And the Young Americans Foundation, she told me, acquiesced, at which point there was nothing she could do.
But this is not the first time.
This is now, well, if you go to Milo in his case, I mean, he wasn't allowed to speak either.
This is now the new America that we live in here.
We're at a turning point.
And freedom of speech is in jeopardy in this country by liberal fascists.
This is not a game anymore.
This is trying to take down the Fox News channel, conservative talk radio, every university.
What starts in universities like Berkeley spreads like cancer around the country.
You know, first it was Yilo Yanopoulos, his event nearly became a riot.
Now it's Ann Coulter.
And you got radical snowflakes monitoring every talk radio show, hoping they can take out whatever hosts or some type type of boycott because what they said is something they don't agree with.
You know, it's it's absolute madness what's going on here.
You know, the very people on the left that claim to be so open-minded and so compassionate and so loving and so inclusive are anything but so supportive of free speech.
These are just their words.
They don't mean this.
And this is what I've been saying to everybody all week.
There's liberal fascism, and they're carrying out a well-funded.
All right, how you think somebody's gonna do it for free?
Monitor me, Rosh, Laura, back, and every other local host around the country, or are they getting paid?
They're getting paid.
Who's paying them?
Interesting question, isn't it?
Think they're gonna monitor 24-7, the Fox News channel, hoping that they get that one sentence, that one phrase, that one comment that they can distort, or you can't even apologize for.
It's God forbid you have a slip of the tongue.
You say something stupid.
You can't say I didn't mean it that way.
It came out wrong.
Does that not happen to all of us in life?
Isn't that why Congress revises and extends their remarks so often?
Hey, James, can you bring me that in, please, if you get a second?
Thank you.
Um, you know, when are we going to live up to this whole concept?
This principle that we really do believe in freedom of speech.
All right, thank you, sweet baby.
I got it.
Um, when are we gonna live up to that standard?
Where is the left watching this liberal fascism unfold before Their eyes and loving it.
Not speaking out against it.
They're loving it.
I can find hardly a liberal that's saying stop.
Stop the boycotts.
Stop the shutdown of speech on college campuses.
Stop trying to take down the Fox News channel.
There's none.
Because they're all phony.
And they're all hypocrites.
And they want that that is their vision, obviously, of America, or they would be speaking out.
For eight years, you guys had a plan.
You you kept saying and promising you would appeal replace Obama care.
And I guess what people want to know is when are these things going to get done?
We're exactly on the timeline that we designed for ourselves.
Obamacare is coming next.
Our bill is coming in March.
First, it's regulatory reform because we have this window of time to cancel bad Obama regulations.
Then we're doing Obamacare.
After we're done with Obamacare, then we're doing our budget.
And our budget is what the second budget, which will be tax reform.
So we're doing two budgets in one year, which has never been done before.
This is faster than it's ever been done before.
When I heard repair, my head nearly exploded.
That's not the plan.
The plan is repeated.
Tom Price helped write that plan.
He is now Donald Trump's secretary of age.
Correct.
You're saying to the American people and conservatives that are impatient, including myself, you agree with every item I mentioned, even extreme vetting.
Yeah.
We passed that bill a year ago in the House.
I know you now agree with building the wall.
Yes.
Are you telling the American people vetting refugees, building the wall, repeal replace tax reform?
All of this is going to be done in 200 days inside the 200 day window is the regulatory reforms we talked about.
It's the repeal and replace Obamacare.
It's the budget, it's the rebuilding of our military, it's tax reform.
Those are the things that we're working on.
Any infrastructure, those are the things we're working on in this 200 2017 county.
That's in there as well.
We we see that as part of regulatory reform.
But in 200 days, that's you think that's doable.
This is our plan, yeah.
And if and if there's any slippage, we'll finish it in the fall and get it done before the end of the year.
So if I come back in 200 days, I you're gonna you're gonna go, well, I made a promise, we got it.
Well because I think this is so here's what I'm saying.
We we've met this out for 200 days.
We have a plan to do that.
We're on schedule, but if if anything slips because uh it'll be another Supreme Court justice, yeah, or or a filibuster on a cabinet nominee, that might slip us, but we're we're making sure that we do all of this in 2017.
Okay, let's go to the budget, which is such a big issue.
Uh the president, seven brackets to three, fifteen percent corporate rate.
I know you prefer twenty because that scores.
It scores with the with the number you support repatriation, multinational corporations.
That will be huge for that's a lot of money that can come back into the economy.
Here's my headline of this interview that you're in pretty much full agreement with what Donald Trump ran on.
Yes.
And number two, in 200 days from the legislative s side, you are going to be implementing every aspect of that agenda that we talked about.
Yep, and and just to big headline.
And we have and we have cushion in our schedule.
If if anything slips because it's really because of Senate issues, we still have time to accommodate all of this stuff in twenty seventeen.
So I even have safety valves.
I have cushions built in the schedule to make sure this all gets done in twenty seven.
I'm pretty sure that'll stimulate the economy, get people back to work and and get the economy moving again, which I think we need.
That's what we're hired to do.
All right.
Mr. Speaker, you see you in two hundred days.
All right, that was the Speaker of the House.
My interview when I went down to Washington at the beginning of the year, and the things that he's promising.
Health care did not go as planned.
Unfortunately, they hid the health care bill.
Nobody had a chance to read it.
There was no coalition built among the varying factions within the the House of Representatives, the Republican caucus, and you had the Freedom Caucus on one side, the Tuesday group on another side, the study group on another side, moderates on another side, and then you had the Saturday let's get wasted drinking group in the Republican caucus on on a who knows what side.
I'm kidding about that group.
But anyway, from all indications, as I read on the air yesterday, the Freedom Caucus now has worked hard day and night.
I know this for a fact, because I probably have spoken with Freedom Caucus members and their chairman, Mark Meadows about a thousand times uh in the interim from the Friday in which that bill failed, and Jim Jordan, who is uh the former chairman of the Freedom Caucus, and uh welcome both uh Both of you back to the program.
I know how hard all of you and your members have worked.
Congressman Meadows will start with you, considering you're the ranking Freedom Caucus member at this moment.
But remember, Jim had that job first.
Um and it's it's been a war.
It's it's been nonstop.
How many hours a day do you think you've been working on this bill?
Well, we've been working, as you know, Sean, around the clock and and actually Jim Jordan uh it not only is he uh a mentor, but he's really uh one of the the best leaders in all of Congress on a number of issues.
And so uh you know, I can tell you the the hours we've spent uh since the bill was pulled, and even before that, uh, but particularly since then has been no less than seventy to eighty hours a week trying to make sure that we find that sweet spot to bring everybody together and now I think we're you know just days away from a vote.
Uh so I'm uh I'm optimistic that uh while the bill's not perfect, uh it does uh fulfill one promise.
It it brings down premiums for hardworking Americans, and that's what it's all about.
Jim Jordan, tell us about the process from your end.
I know that it was it was touch and go there for a while very hard.
You guys were were basically in the media blamed for as being the group that was responsible.
Meanwhile, you're only one part of this coalition.
I'm sure that'd be frustrating to all of you.
Yeah, but look uh Sean, because we engage and because Mark worked his tail off and our whole team did, we made a bill that wasn't where it needed to be.
We made it better.
Now let's be honest, it's not full repeal, so there's still work to do.
But because we engage, because we held out, uh the Obamacare tax increases are going right away.
They're not kept for a year or two longer than than than as the original draft had them.
The work requirement for able-bodied people in the Medicaid expansion program is in there because conservatives engaged and and fought for things.
And finally, this option for state to get the waiver and and re and get a waiver from those key Obamacare regulations that drive up premiums to get a waiver from that so premiums come down as Mark said for working class families.
Those three things happen because we engage in this debate.
We think this is the best bill that can get out of the house.
We think it's a better bill than was uh introduced, and uh but we understand we got more work to do to fully repeal a box.
Explain fully do what we told the American people we were going to accomplish.
You know, it gets complicated, and most people don't understand this, and and one of the apparent obstacles in this whole process is the fact that it had to work within the Senate rules of reconciliation.
And when I get into reconciliation and the bird rule and cloture, everybody's eyes gloss over.
Because at the end of the day, the only thing people want to know is are my premiums going down?
Right.
Um and am I gonna get better and more consistent health care?
And you're saying that this bill is a big step in that direction.
If they get the waiver, if states get the waiver...
Well, you got the waiver, right?
Many states are going to go for that option and actually make it happen.
If they do that, coupled with the other things that are currently in the bill, we do believe premiums will come down.
And not just what Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan and and members of Congress believe, the health care policy experts believe that will happen.
Then you can do then you can say, okay, California, you may not want to do this.
Your state may not do it, but Kentucky will, and people can start to see, wow, uh premiums and and deductibles are coming down in Kentucky, even though they're not in California.
Maybe with maybe then there'll be in this this more push to get across state lines, get that legislation done, and some of the other things we know need to happen to further bring down the cost of health care and the cost of uh insurance premiums.
Yeah, Congressman Meadows, um these were not easy negotiations, and the waiver ended up being the breakthrough.
Can you explain the difference?
Well, I think uh for for many of us, uh Sean, uh we believe that the Obamacare mandates, and there's twelve of them.
The original bill that was rolled out uh had two of them repealed.
We believe that there was two other critical Obamacare rules that had to be repealed.
And uh the original recommendation we had was a full repeal.
As you know, the moderates uh just felt like that was a bridge too far.
So this waiver actually gets it two additional Obamacare rules that have the the greatest impact on premiums.
And so by allowing states to waive out of them, uh it will not only protect pre existing conditions, which it was the president's promise and our promise, uh, but it'll drive premiums down.
There's another aspect that we've we've helped create a high risk pool.
So that's anybody that has a pre existing condition uh can go into that so that their premiums stay down.
So uh it was it was a compromise.
Certainly uh it is one that uh as Jim was saying, we we haven't finished the work.
We've got to continue to work with the Senate.
I know I talked to Senator Terthoon yesterday about working on uh tax credits and making sure that our people uh uh the seniors have uh have adequate coverage, affordable coverage.
But right now, based on the numbers, uh a fifty year old is going to be able to buy insurance as cheap as a thirty year old can on Obamacare.
And and that's uh significant when you really look at lowering premiums.
Let me ask you both this.
I've been very critical of leadership for this reason because you know, for for nearly eight years now, or probably about eight years, Republicans said, give us the House.
You got the House in 2010.
All right, give us the Senate.
We'll repeal and replace Obamacare.
You got that in 2014.
Give us the House, the Senate, and the White House, and we'll repeal and replace Obamacare.
And you look at the approval ratings.
Now the President's approval rating is quite high because everything he can possibly do on his own, he's doing, and he's reminding Americans that he's checking off his promises.
I really give him a lot of credit for what he's done, including Neil Gorsuch, and we worked down from there.
He laid out his economic plan that was exactly what he said he would do during the campaign.
But yet after eight years of having an opportunity to build consensus, they didn't show anybody the bill.
You guys didn't see the bill beforehand, right?
Right.
We didn't.
All right.
They didn't build consensus among the varying factions, the coalitions.
No coalition was built, no whipping took place.
Nobody saw the bill.
It was unloaded on people.
The president immediately wrapped his arms around it because he thought it was a consensus bill.
He has to do the heavy lifting on the bill, and meanwhile, it's not what people promised, and and then you guys have to come in and clean up the mess.
Sean, uh and the reason is remember, we thought we were going to start with where we were last year.
The bill.
And that bill didn't fully repeal Obamacare either.
Yeah.
Right.
So we thought we were going to start there.
When that wasn't the case, and you and you have a process like you just described, that's why you get to the end and you have a piece of legislation that only seventeen percent of the country supports.
But we said, look, we still want to do everything we can to keep our word with the American people.
So Mark went to work.
We went to work over this this this break and we're able to say at least let's give states the option to do what we should have been doing, I think, which is a a repeal of those regulations that drive up costs.
So that's where we're at now.
We think as we said before, it's it's pretty darn good and it's a good start, but it's not it's not a good thing.
Okay, but my problem is really end up.
Jim and Congressman Meadows, I'll ask you.
My problem is we can't go through this pain every time of every one of the agenda.
Every one of the president's agenda items cannot go through this.
No, it's now is there is there anything real quickly and then we'll come back.
Is there anything, Congressman Meadows, that is that gives you any indication they're gonna act differently with, for example, the tax bill.
Well, uh we we spoke to uh White House officials last night and made that point of compelling point that it has to be different.
We can't embarrass uh the president uh believing that there's consensus when there's not.
But the other part of that, I do believe that uh we ha we have a real opportunity.
Uh Jim and I just came from meeting with the speaker where we said, you know, what we've got to do is iron out our differences right now on tax reform.
And what did he say?
I'll tell you what, tell us what he said when we get back.
We'll talk about the tax reform bill when we come back.
Also at the bottom of the hour, uh, we're actually gonna check in with Senator Tom Cotton.
I was in Israel last week and believe it or not, three hundred million taxpayer dollars a year are spent by the Palestinian authority to pay terrorists and their families our money paying, and it's a matter of law, and we're still giving the money, and there's an act put in place uh which is for Taylor Force.
We'll explain that at the bottom of the hour.
But I go and all right, so we're talking about how wrong the health care process went, Congressman Meadows.
You said you meant with Speaker of the House, Ryan.
Is he committed to not creating another fiasco rollout like the health care repeal replace bill?
Well, he he is.
Uh he he basically told Jim and I that uh the the process he sees where uh it it had uh the pitfalls this particular time.
It needs to be more than just listening sessions.
It really needs to be where we get the legislative tax, we go back and forth, we actually read the bills.
I know that that uh shouldn't be a shock to your listeners that members should read the bills, but a lot of them don't.
And so what what he said is is that we would actually get there, work it back and forth, and then before going out and taking it out to the American people, at least have a consensus or very close to a consensus.
Uh the real I guess the real caution that I have there is Is that we've heard that kind of thing before, and it's important for the president that we get it right this time.
And uh I'm I'm gonna take the speaker at his word and and trust that on tax reform we'll roll it out with uh a little bit more look in your opinion, um Jim Jordan, like what the president ran on and what he outlined through Steve Minuchin and and Cohn yesterday.
Yeah, that's a great, great uh um principles there.
But everything Mark just talked about it might be nice if he had real hearings, like for this health care bill.
Maybe it'd have been nice if you had hospitals come in, doctors come in, regular families, maybe independent insurance agents, they maybe have real real Americans come in and testify.
There was no there was no testimony taken in in the hearing, they were just straight to mark-up, and no amendments were actually accepted in the committee.
So you you you build as much consistency as you can, then you have actual real hearings.
Let the American people weigh in, watch their government in action.
Let's do the same thing on the tax.
I I'll take the Democrats' argument.
Oh, they're gonna say, oh, you're cutting taxes for the rich.
No, we're cutting taxes, letting people letting families keep more of their money, and I and creating a tax code that's conducive to economic growth, so we can have more than this one point two percent annual growth rate that we had under Obama, for goodness sake.
So I welcome those debates.
We shouldn't shy away from those debates.
Let's have real hearings, real debates, and let's have that happen, and then we will get a better product that will be better for the American people who elected us to come here and do these very things.
Were you either of you upset in the fight this week over the CR that funding for the border wall that the president said, All right, we can put that off?
Are you confident that that's still gonna be funded?
Well, I'm confident that the president uh is committed to building the wall, but yes, I mean, am I upset?
Uh sure I'm upset.
At this particular point, it's a promise that the president made.
It's one that I joined him in.
We've got to fund the wall.
If we can't find the done it this week, should Republicans have fought this week?
I beg your pardon?
Should the Republicans have fought this week?
Well, I I think they should have.
I mean, when you really look at this particular issue, it's uh, you know, you've got Democrats holding it up.
Now, no one's in favor of a government shutdown, but at the point, you have to stand for something.
This is a president who always stands for something.
He's taken a political risk to say things that perhaps are not politically correct.
Building the wall is critically important, not only to my voters, but to Jim's and and all of those who who understand national security.
So we've got to get it done, and hopefully we will.
All right, guys, thank you both.
I know how hard you both work.
I know for a fact how hard you all work, and I would say without the Freedom Caucus, this health care bill would have had no opportunity.
We'll take a quick break.
We'll come back, we'll continue.
On the other side, why is the American government your tax dollars, three hundred million dollars a year going to fund terrorists and their families when they kill Americans and Israelis?
Believe it or not, that's happening.
Senator Tom Cotton weighs in next.
Taylor Force was an outstanding young American with a distinguished record of service uh at the military academy and then overseas.
He was what every parent could hope their son could be.
I want to make sure that...
The record that he put together is remembered by Americans and is a positive force for change in the world.
The taxpayer dollars are no longer going to subsidize the murder of American citizens or Israeli citizens.
And that Palestinian people are no longer subsidized with American money, you know, leadership that encourages this kind of brutal murder.
With graduated payments for the mortar, and worse mayhem at these terrorists, right.
So the Forrest family has my commitment, has all of our commitments, that we're going to do everything in our power to make this bill into a law, to commemorate Taylor's memory, and to ensure that his sacrifice is not forgotten.
And that it has a lasting positive legacy in the world.
All right, 24 now till the top of the hour.
Very emotional, Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas.
Now he serves on the Armed Services and Intelligence Committees.
He served in Iraq himself, the 101st Airborne, and in Afghanistan with the provincial reconstruction team, and also joining us as Stewart Force.
Now, Stewart's son Taylor was a former U.S. Army officer, West Point graduate.
He was part of Vanderbilt University, their tour group that was visiting Israel.
I talked about this with Prime Minister Netanyahu last week.
He was brutally stabbed and killed by a Palestinian terrorist.
The Palestinian is Palestinian Authority leader, Mahmoud Abbas and their Fatah faction praise the terrorists as a heroic martyr.
By the way, Donald Trump is meeting with this guy on May 3rd, and the Palestinian Authority has never condemned the attack, a terrorist attack.
Now, what I got into with the Prime Minister of Israel is the fact that the U.S. government gives about 700 million dollars a year to the Palestinian Authority.
And of that 700 million, they spend about 300 million dollars.
According to the Palestinian Authority's online budget, they shell out the same amount or that amount of money, 300 million dollars a year to the families of jihadists.
They build in their town squares literally quote so-called works of art for the people that kill either Israelis or Americans.
Now the Taylor Force Act would cut off funding to the Palestinian Authority if they continue this policy.
It is now the stated law paying money, monetary rewards to terrorists and their surviving family members.
Anyway, uh Senator Tom Cotton is back with us from Arkansas.
Uh Stuart Force is with us.
It was his son Taylor, who this legislation is designed and and to honor.
Welcome both of you to the program.
Good afternoon, Sean.
And I it I appreciate so much you you having me on.
It's it's a great honor to speak with you.
I spoke at length with the Prime Minister of Israel about this very issue in light of the leader of of the Palestinian Authority, Mahmoud Abbas is meeting with President Trump on May 3rd.
Um and the Prime Minister of Israel was adamant that if there's any chance of peace, one that's got to be a recognition of Israel's right to exist.
Number two, stop paying monetary rewards to terrorists and their surviving family members.
Doesn't that have to be a fundamental basic starting point?
I would I would think so, Sean.
I can't imagine negotiating with anybody about anything, knowing that they have law laws that provide for killing your citizens.
I cannot I cannot believe that you could start with that in effect.
Um I think it's just when all the facts came out to us after after we lost Taylor, and I I heard and read what was going on, I I was appalled that that is going on in this day and age.
The contract killing with an open open-ended contract, I could not I could not understand it.
Uh and it is it's just but you know why?
Because it's not comprehensible.
Because you you the there's no sense behind this that American money is going to a group that kills Americans and Israelis and they're rewarding the terrorists and their families.
Because, you know, that is insanity by definition.
And it's got to end.
By the way, I'm pretty certain I know pretty it's President Trump pretty well.
I think once he gets made aware of the magnitude of this, I think he's gonna say, no more money until you stop this.
I I think that it would be a first good step, and um everyone I've uh had the opportunity to speak opportunity to speak with.
I I agree that they they are more and more aware of how ludicrous the whole situation is and how you can't go forward with that in place.
It's it's I I I hate that we're that my wife and I and daughter have spoken to so many people that have been so concerned.
We never in our lives imagined they didn't like anything with this happen to anyone in our family, but uh we agree it it it it it has it has to stop.
It just cannot continue, and it's not it's not a partisan issue.
I I tell people and whether they're Democrat, liberal, independent, Republican, just the situation.
It's not a it's not a part of your belief, it's just not not right.
You're right.
It's not right.
Hey, Sean, this is Tom Cotton.
I'm sorry to add.
Um it's good to be on with you, uh, as always, but it's an especial honor to be uh on with you with Stuart, Mr. Force.
It's good to hear your voice.
Thank you.
Senator Cotton, I appreciate you s what you're doing for this so much.
I can't tell you.
Yes.
Um and and Sean, your your instinct is right, uh, because I've seen this repeatedly now, both in Congress uh and with Arkansans.
Uh decent people cannot imagine that the facts at hand.
They cannot imagine that we give the Palestinian Authority hundreds of millions of dollars, and the Palestinian Authority gives what's essentially bonus payments to the families of terrorists who commit the kind of heinous crime that uh happened to Taylor Force.
when you bring that to them, sometimes you have to actually show them the laws.
Show them the Palestinian laws, show them the budgetary accounts which are freely available uh in the open source domain to get them to realize that this is in fact true, that this is not a myth.
Um and I for want to be confident once the president understands and appreciates what's happening with your tax dollars that we can put an end to this uh and that we can pass the Taylor Force Act through the Congress for his signature.
Sean, I'm so happy that you raised this with Prime Minister Netanyahu, and I'm so grateful that Prime Minister Netanyahu spoke forcefully about the need to end.
Did you see us talking about this?
Did you see the quotes of a boss that he he uses when he's at home versus what I know he'll probably lie to and tell the President?
Sean, it it's so important that Prime Minister Netanyahu weighed in on this matter that we have to stop what are essentially bounty payments uh to the families of of dead terrorists.
Um and his support uh removes one of the very last objections that anyone in the United States could have, because if the Prime Minister supports this legislation and this effort uh to try to stop U.S. taxpayer dollars uh from going to the families of dead Palestinian terrorists, I can't imagine any Senator Congressman voting against our legislation.
So I I'm encouraging the President to raise this matter with uh President Abbas during their meeting next week and say very simply to him, look, i if you don't stop this practice, you will no longer receive this money.
Uh we're not asking them for some pie in the sky um you know, lying down line laying down with the lamb scenario.
We're not asking them to try to, you know, eliminate all anti-Semitic feelings from their society.
We're asking them to do something within their control.
Stop taking our money and giving it to the families of dead terrorists if you want to keep our money.
Have you gotten any democratic support center?
A lot of Democrats have been supportive uh um but quietly.
Uh one reason why we couldn't pass this legislation in previous years is that the Obama administration plainly did not support it, did not want it coming to the floor, um, and Democratic senators did not want to vote on it.
Uh but with President Trump in the White House, who I believe will support the legislation, um, with the endorsement of Prime Minister Netanyahu, I think it's a horse of a different color, and I suspect that we will be able to pass this.
What about Chuck Schumer?
Have you ever talked to Chuck Schumer about it?
I I haven't personally talked to him about it, but you know, Senator Schumer likes to prevent his uh caucus from having to take votes on things that might be tough for them.
Um I again it's hard for me to imagine anybody saying this is tough, but ultimately it's Mitch McConnell that schedules the floor.
And Senator McConnell can bring this to the floor uh with the President's support now with the endorsement of the Prime Minister as well.
I think you'd see a large and bipartisan vote if we have a vote on the floor.
Um let me ask you this.
Um how do they have confirmed themselves that this is actual law under the Palestinian Authority, correct?
They must pay the families of terrorists and terrorists that survive.
It's in black and white, it's Palestinian authority and law, and um the more heinous the attack and crime, the uh bloodier it is, the more money the families receive.
It is a straight incentive for terrorists to kill innocent civilians like Taylor Force to try to make sure their family is cared for.
Yeah.
Mr. Mr. Force, Stewart Force, tell us about your son Taylor.
Oh gosh.
Your program's not long enough, Sean, for me to tell you all about Taylor.
I believe it.
I believe it.
But we're it it we were just very fortunate that we have we have two good kids, and uh he at an early age decided that uh uh West Point would be a goal.
He went to uh New Mexico Military Institute in Roswell where people like Roger Stauback had had gone to school and in their efforts to uh obtain appointments to the various service academies, and it was a good academic and uh pre-military background, and he enjoyed well, I guess he'd have to say mostly endured his his four years at West Point because it's quite a grueling regimen that they go through.
But um his my father, his grandfather had had graduated in forty-seven, and so he had uh an ideal and an idea of what to expect, and he was excited and when he graduated he went to field artillery and uh to serve the two tier tours uh a year in Iraq and nine months in Afghanistan, and uh you know he uh I I would want to mention one Thing.
I know people have a tendency to use the word hero, and Taylor was very a very modest and humble person, even though he achieved a lot.
But I want he always cringed when somebody would call him a hero.
Well, he felt the real heroes were those that were wounded or or gave their lives.
Yeah, but he was willing to risk it, so he fits in that category.
It's the same thing to me in many ways.
It's not the same thing.
I mean, anybody that's willing to risk it, that is a level of heroism and courage.
I I he but he viewed himself as a patriot more than more than a hero, Sean, but it was um it was something he felt very strongly about and being there for his men, and uh it it honestly wasn't about him, and it's just a tragedy that situations like this happen.
It takes so many so many promising young people, not only Americans, but but Israelis and and other visitors to Israel in a in a situation like this, it's just it's just uh it it's a shame and and we're we're incredulous about the whole thing.
Yeah.
Well, first I just want to say on a on behalf of so many people, I'm so sorry, Mr. Force for your loss, your son Taylor, and uh I truly, you know, send the sympathy of a very sympathetic audience here, and we want to wish you and your family the very, very best.
And so sorry you have to go through this, and Senator Cotton, thank you for what you're doing on this.
And I know you're fighting the good fight every day.
Is that health care bill in the house gonna work through the Senate and get done, you think?
Sean, over the last few weeks, uh, I've decided not to hazard guesses about what's gonna happen on the floor of the House.
But whatever happens, I want to make sure that we pass legislation that repeals Obamacare and provides uh all Americans with affordable and quality insurance, no exceptions and no excuses.
Do you like the changes that the Freedom Caucus was able to get?
I haven't seen the text, but from the reports I've seen and my conversations with some of my friends there, they're moving in the right direction.
Obviously, the Senate will uh will take up any bill that comes here and put our own stamp on it.
Uh but the ultimate goal uh that we share with those in the House is making sure that insurance is affordable for everyone, no matter how you get your insurance.
Yeah.
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You're in our thoughts and prayers.
Your son was indeed a hero.
God bless you and your family.
I know how hard that must be for you every day.
This insanity of paying money to the Palestinian authorities so they can shell it out to the families and jihadists and their survivors is insanity.
And I'm I'm gonna make sure in the next interview with President Trump that I ask him about this.
Thank you so much for being with us.
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It's hilarious and kind of sad that um, you know, uh I was in the waiting room in the West Wing for a half hour before I walked in there, and probably saw a hundred people, including reporters.
So it just kind of, you know, nothing happened f until a week later, and then people were furious that I got in there and and you know, actually I was in Washington for something different, um, and went in there, and I will say that since uh his the Trump spokesperson said it, I talked to him about a project.
So I did talk to him about a project, but we talked about other stuff too.
And what I find unbelievable is the bullying in traditional media.
That that I think there are some traditional media outlets that are getting ruined by this administration, and it ruined by their own deeds.
That you know, there are certain uh uh uh networks and and newspapers that are very clear on who they are and what they feel, and that's fine.
I mean, if you if you put yourself out as you know, somebody who supports Trump or is like MSNBC is against Trump, at least you get it.
You know what you're getting.
But when you pretend like you're objective, but you're not, and you are angry and you are you know you you are trying to kill um and bully, I think that is killing, and I don't think they know it yet, but I think some of the trusted names in news are not trusted anymore because of this.
And you know what I I think it's so preposterous that you know Kanye West went to see Trump, he got trashed.
Steve Harvey went to see Trump, he got trashed.
You know, they went after me for seeing Trump.
So I guess the solution is nobody should see him.
It should be a boycott.
That is so stupid.
I've given college speeches for years now, and it was bad during Bush.
Um, but and then there was nothing during Obama, I think, because college leftists didn't know what their chance should be.
They needed a champ, like Bushlied kids died, and they didn't have a champ for us.
So Obama years were those were the easiest things thing ever.
Um, and whoa, has it come back now?
But I mean, I think what's going on with Berkeley when you have uh it shows how radical the universities are generally.
I mean, what you're talking about, I agree with yes, they want to destroy and cr and squelch conservative speech.
But there is a separate issue with the universities right now.
When you have Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Howard Um Bill Maher, Joy Behar, and so on and so forth.
When they're all saying, oh, get over yourselves, Berkeley.
We have a First Amendment.
People have fought and died for the right to free speech of the college Republicans, really, in this case.
They're a student group.
I'm not just, you know, some homeless person wandering onto the square and and but I'd be allowed to speak then too.
Um they are really outside the mainstream.
They are publicly funded.
Forget that this is where the free speech movement started.
The amount of money they get from the state and the federal government.
But all of the people who should have been standing up for the First Amendment here all ran away with their tails between their legs.
And they're not going to be able to get the same.
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Veronica, it's very clear, the police are inside, they have been told not to engage at this point.
They're standing back, we've seen this in demonstrations in the Bay Area before.
The feeling is that the property damage, whatever it may be, is less is is is less costly than anybody getting hurt.
And so the police repeatedly in situations like this take the tactic of standing back and hoping it's going to diffuse.
What happens here remains to be seen.
But this is we've seen this before in the Bay Area.
The police are behind the glass you see over there.
They're not confronting the demonstrators.
They're not trying to stop them, at least they had this section.
All right, that was Ann Coulter and Harvey Levin, who is uh from TMZ.
He's also become a friend of mine.
Harvey is a very, very interesting guy.
And I don't even know where he stands politically, but he's one of the the few people in Hollywood that just took a very strong stand for freedom of speech.
We see what's happening with with my Milo, and and he wanted to speak out in in Berkeley, the home of the free speech movement.
And Coulter was supposed to give this speech today, and look what happened.
I mean, one reason or another, they have to stop.
There's total chaos in the case of Milo Yanopoulos, his event, it almost became a riot for crying out loud.
And, you know, here it is again, the left threatening Ann Coulter.
It's what I've been calling liberal fascism.
Let's let's boycott Rush Limbaugh.
Let's boycott Dr. Laurel.
Let's boycott Glenn Beck.
Let's make outrageous allegations from 2003 or 4 about Sean Hannity, two days after Bill O'Reilly is fired.
Um, and and the media will run with the cheap headline and not even do a basic rudimentary Google search to see whether or not this woman has a history of lying about me and smearing me uh for years with the most outrageous claims.
Anyway, news roundup information overload.
Rick Unger is with us, and he's a senior political contributor.
I have no idea how or why at Forbes.com and the co-host of the Steel and Unger show, Jonathan Gillam, host of the experts, Navy SEO, former FBI agent and federal air marshal.
Uh, this is your party.
Where where is where are liberal free speech advocates here?
Because I doubt liberals are monitoring your show and taping every minute of your show.
The way they tape every minute of this show, Mr. Unger, sir.
Yeah, you're not gonna see much of a defense for me for those who were doing that.
I, in this instance, have been agreeing with the N Culture all along.
It's such a waste.
You know, I experienced this when I was a kid in college, which is a hundred years ago.
We had the same thing going on, only it was reversed.
You couldn't get liberal speakers on campus.
And I thought that was outrageous.
And I think it's outrageous now.
It doesn't matter what the politics are.
We have free speech.
Universities are places where you go to learn.
All right.
Let me put you on hold because you have a cheap liberal sports illustrator football phone you got for free years ago with your subscription.
But it's an Obama phone.
No, I think the Obama phone was expensive.
It was an iPhone, an Obama phone.
Uh Jonathan Gillum, let's get your take.
Well, listen, I think you're absolutely right.
And one thing I I enjoy having Rick uh being on here with Rick and the banter back and forth is because I think, Sean, there's becoming a distinction between effective thinkers and the far left fascist communist types.
Uh Rick Unger, you know, he has liberal views, but he's an effective thinker, and you can reason with Rick.
Rick's not against the Constitution or America.
These people, they hate America, they hate the Constitution, they hate the First Amendment as it applies to everyone.
And I think really I think it's time for the president to kick the press out of the White House.
I would rather him go out or put up people on a list, just civilians to be able to come in there and ask questions during the press briefing with uh Sean Spicer, and then let the press just get their information either from those people or continue to lie as they are, because right now they're in our house, and they're as far as I can see, the majority of these people are fascists, communists, or just r outright liars, so they can get uh advertising.
I I I mean we're talking to Rick Unger.
Rick Unger is a friend of ours, but he is really liberal.
He is friends with all of these people.
And I I I I don't even know Rick, uh you you say you don't defend them.
Where is your movement?
Because your movement is silent.
Your movement is non-existent.
Did I hear you say I have one of those old football phones?
I love those things.
Look, I mean, well, you have a sports illustrated football phone from back in the day.
Oh my god.
So I mean, there I have spoken to a lot of people who are progressive, who are liberal, and they agree.
This is ridiculous.
Freedom of speech is freedom of speech.
To get a good education is the reason to go to college.
So you can hear points of view from all sides.
Decide for yourself who you agree with and who you disagree with.
Okay, but this is your side that's not allowing it.
Your side ask you this.
Have you done ever debated Ann Coulter?
Uh only one on one over a bunch of drinks.
Never in public.
You know, I I wanted to talk about a fun event.
What was the Christopher Hitchens?
I remember.
I think it was at a David Horowitz, you know, Renaissance weekend event years ago.
And I was watching Ann and Christopher Hitchens.
They both smoked at the time, and they're smoking cigarettes, they're drinking, and everybody was around them, and they're throwing one wise ass comment back and forth to each other.
It was highly entertaining.
But see, we all agree that's the way it should be.
You don't have to hate people because they disagree with you.
My God, imagine how boring this world would be if everybody agreed on everything.
Yeah.
Let me ask you, um, Jonathan.
I mean, where do you think this ends?
Do you think finally there's going to be a backlash?
And we finally hit a tipping point.
Like I've even said on the air many times, and I hate the guy.
I I I can't stand Bill Maher.
He's everything that I don't like in people.
But I love I think he's good for America in this sense, as he survives saying anything he wants.
I just want some of that to rub off on conservatives just once.
You know, I think I think Sean, first off, these these people that we're talking about that uh are trying to stifle the freedom of speech and that are getting in the way of good political discourse.
Uh they're a lot smaller of a group, I think, than what people realize.
When I say a smaller of a group, they're the they have some very powerful people in Washington, D.C., some very powerful people in the media and in in Hollywood.
But when we look at these Antifa people and the people at Berkeley that are protesting, that's a much smaller group uh than we let on.
It's just that the conservatives don't stand up to these people because we're typically working and we're not out to not just conservatives, but hardworking liberals like Rick Unger.
And I think that it's going to get to a point where hopefully Uh the people unify.
I I was talking to a group of people with David Webb last night uh in um uh out in New Jersey at a GOP group, and you know, unity is the is the biggest thing.
We're not we don't practice unity.
And the the more unified we become, uh the more we're gonna be able to stand up to these people when they do stuff like this.
Yeah, I gotta break a uh I even like both of you, and I'd never silence Rick Unger's voice.
Well, I can make up allegations right now.
It'll probably be probably be all over the internet in 30 seconds.
Sean Hannity accuses Rick Unger of something outrageous.
And by the way, most people would believe it, Rick, just in case you wanted to know.
Uh even if it's false.
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You know, if if the vote's held on Saturday, certainly the votes will be there, but I can tell you that uh as late as last night and again this morning, uh, some of those undecided uh members of Congress, uh primarily on the Republican side, that's all we're counting on at this point, uh, are so close to yes that I'm very optimistic that whether the vote is is tomorrow or Saturday uh or next week, that the votes will be there to actually uh pass this to the Senate, make sure that it becomes b better.
It's not necessarily a more conservative bill, but it is a bill that lowers premiums for the American people, allows us to hopefully uh get on to tax reform uh in a very uh uh quick uh fashion in the coming days.
All right, as we continue with Rick Unger and of course uh our good friend Jonathan Gillam, guys.
Let me ask you, so Congress looks like they're now going to get a health care replacement bill, Freedom Caucus on board, whipping the votes as we speak.
Uh this has got to break your liberal weeping heart.
But I would think that Rick Unger, you would realize and admit now that we never got to keep our doctors our plans and we didn't save $2,500 of family a year either, and it was sold on one big lie, wasn't it?
Well, there were certainly lies told.
I won't say it was sold on one big lie, and there are improvements that need to be made.
It's not breaking my heart because A, it's not going to get through the House.
They may be whipping, but they're not getting enough of the moderate Republicans.
And even if it does get through the House, it doesn't get through the Senate.
People who are aware of what this bill is realize is this is just a fail out.
Congress is just saying we can't figure out what to do with it, so you know what?
We'll let the nasty politics fall on the states.
Good luck, governors.
Well, no, no, but the point but that's such a good point because they can take their waiver and they can do what they want and they can they can literally specialize or focus on the special needs of the people in their state based on their the percentage or population of elderly people, sick people.
Explain what the special needs are when it comes to special needs, for example, West Virginia and the and and coal miners.
Maybe they have different needs than people in other parts of the country.
Maybe there's some.
Okay, and and maybe you have an uh a more elderly population in a place like Florida, uh, Jonathan Gillam.
I you know, this this again, Sean, I think we talked about this the last time.
Th this whole insurance thing that's going on is it's literally killing me as a conservative because I sit back and see how bad politics have gotten when we should just have and should have had a bill ready to present when President Trump came in office, and now myself as a conservative, not an expert in insurance by any means.
I'm sitting back like most conservatives saying, What next?
What are they gonna screw us on now?
Is this is there anything gonna come out of this?
And you know, the reality is I think President Trump is stuck in the middle of this between the uh the establishment uh on the right and the communist on the left.
Communist on the left?
Really?
If you support Obama, you're a communist.
You I'm talking about the people at the top of the why do you say not him?
He of course he's a communist, he loved Obama.
Oh, don't call Rick Unger a communist.
Why not?
Yeah.
Rick Unger doesn't like to be called a communist, none of us found that out.
All right, I don't think I'd want to go there.
Oh, you're just a radical status socialist.
How's that?
Would that make you happy?
So I'm so radical.
You know the problem is, you know, all you liberals are generous with other people's money.
Well, there you go.
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You know, if if the vote's held on Saturday, certainly the votes will be there, but I can tell you that uh as late as last night and again this morning, uh, some of those undecided uh members of Congress, uh primarily on the Republican side, that's all we're counting on at this point, uh, are so close to yes that I'm very optimistic that whether the vote is is tomorrow or Saturday uh or next week, that the votes will be there to actually uh pass this to the Senate, make sure that it becomes b better.
It's not necessarily a more conservative bill, but it is a bill that lowers premiums for the American people, allows us to hopefully uh get on to tax reform uh in a very uh uh quick uh fashion in the coming days.
All right, as we continue with Rick Unger and of course uh our good friend Jonathan Gillam, guys.
Let me ask you so Congress looks like they're now gonna get a health care replacement bill, Freedom Caucus on board, whipping the votes as we speak.
Uh, this has got to break your liberal weeping heart.
But I would think that Rick Unger, you would realize and admit now that we never got to keep our doctors our plans, and we didn't save $2,500 of family a year either, and it was sold on one big lie, wasn't it?
Well, there were certainly lies told.
I won't say it was sold on one big lie, and there are improvements that need to be made.
It's not breaking my heart because A, it's not going to get through the House.
They may be whipping, but they're not getting enough of the moderate Republicans.
And even if it does get through the House, it doesn't get through the Senate.
People who are aware of what this bill is realize is this is just a bailout.
Congress is just saying we can't figure out what to do with it, so you know what?
We'll let the nasty politics fall on the states.
Good luck, governors.
Well, no, no, but the point but that's such a good point because they can take their waiver and they can do what they want, and they can they can literally specialize or focus on the special needs of the people in their state based on their the percentage or population of elderly people, sick people.
Explain what the special needs are when it comes to special needs, for example, West Virginia and the and and coal miners.
Maybe they have different needs than people in other parts of the country.
Maybe there's some.
Okay, and and maybe you have an uh a more elderly population in a place like Florida.
Uh Jonathan Gillam.
I you know, this this again, Sean.
I think we talked about this the last time.
This this whole insurance thing that's going on is it's literally killing me as a conservative because I sit back and see how bad politics have gotten when we should just have and should have had a bill ready to present when President Trump came into office.
And now myself as a conservative, not an expert in insurance by any means.
I'm sitting back like most conservatives saying, what next?
What are they gonna screw us on now?
Is this is there anything gonna come out of this?
And you know, the reality is I think President Trump is stuck in the middle of this between the uh the establishment uh on the right and the communist on the left.
Communist on the left?
Really?
If you support Obama care, you're a communist.
I'm talking about the people at the top of the table.
Why are you saying not him?
He of course he's a communist, he loved Obama.
Oh, don't call Rick Unger a communist.
Why not?
Yeah.
Rick Unger doesn't like to be called a communist.
I don't have to found that out.
All right, I don't think I want to go there.
Oh, you're just a radical status socialist.
How's that?
Would that make you happy?
So I'm so radical.
You know the problem is, you know, all you liberals are generous with other people's money.
Well, there you go.
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If you want to be a part of this extravaganza, we're expecting at 10 Eastern tonight when I come on the air on Hannity on Fox that there may be crazy people out in Berkeley, California, the home of free speech, the home.
Oh, that's right.
That's where Ann Coulter can't speak.
Which is what I've been saying.
Freedom of speech in the United States of America.
We're now at a at a tipping point at a turning point.
And I'm trying to rally the call here because I'm not going to sit back and let every conservative be silenced by all these liberal fascists.
And if we don't take a stand and protect talk radio and protect the Fox News channel and protect, you know, even websites that will eventually they'll be targeted next to shut them down and radical snowflakes in many ways succeeded because they can't create an environment where Ann Coulter is even going to be safe.
God bless Ann Coulter.
Ann Coulter is willing to go out there and do it.
Which, you know, it shows a lot of courage on her part because you know what's going to show up there.
But anyway, she was supposed to give a speech on campus.
Sounds pretty harmless.
You know, but these radical left wing, you know, destroy Trump anti-free speech fascists out there that um, you know, remember the same people that started the riot over Milo Yanapolis.
They don't want him to talk either.
Well, who cares who talks?
You have radical Islamists that are allowed to talk on on college campuses.
Ach Van Denejad, where did he speak at?
Columbia, Linda, or was it at uh NYU?
It was Columbia, the Ivy League institution.
It's unbelievable.
You know, this, but the case in the Milo, they started a near riot over his event out in Berkeley.
Campus descends into chaos all because they're they don't want to hear an opposing voice.
And they're threatening to do the same thing to Anne Coulter.
You know, the the great hypocrisy here is you know, the radical left, the alt-radical left, and the their accomplices in the media, they love to claim they're tolerant.
They're so inclusive, but it's just inaccurate.
It's not true.
It is an outright lie.
That's not who they are.
They're just the opposite.
Maybe the biggest lie myth that exists out there.
You know, the First Amendment, freedom of speech means nothing to them.
To them, it's well, free speech as long as you agree with them.
So the goal is very simple.
It's very obvious, no conservative voices in America shall speak in college campuses.
You know, how many conservatives get invited to give commencement exercises, even when a Republican president or vice president is asked, I think Mike Pence was asked to do it at Notre Dame, and they're they're going to protest.
Notre Dame?
Anyway, the president is speaking at Liberty University this year.
Good for him.
And I doubt he's going to get booed at Liberty.
90% of campuses, he might get booed at.
Well, not, you know, I really don't think so in this day.
And they will be shouted down by the pro-Trump crowd, but you know, you create an environment.
Look, if I'm at a if I'm at a speech or I'm at a commencement address, and let's say Obama is speaking.
God help me having to sit through that nonsense or Hillary Clinton.
I'm going to be respectful.
We've never on this program started boycotts against Bill Maher, who has said outrageous incendiary, over-the-top things one after another.
I've actually gone in the other direction.
I've said he has a right to do it.
And when he got fired from ABC and politically incorrect, it was conservatives like me, Rush, and Mark that defended him and said, Don't fire him.
No matter how outrageous the speech is.
Let him say it.
And I had this girl from what was it, Fox Sports, Linda?
Yeah, Fox Sports.
She called me a literal, what was it?
It was it was not exactly proper English.
A literal, what?
You say I have no idea.
I don't pay attention to her.
She's not worth my time.
Well, the F word was in there somewhere.
Yeah, well, you know, she's very high browner.
And I'm I'm really messing around.
I said, this is gonna help take you far in your career.
You're a genius.
And anyway, then people say, well, you work for the same company, you're powerful within that company.
You're trying to shut her down.
You want HR to fire her.
And I whoa, slow down here, cowboy.
And I actually said on Twitter, I do not want to, I do not support her getting fired.
I don't want an investigation.
She should be able to say anything she wants.
And I ended up supporting her.
Katie Something is her name.
I don't even know.
I don't even know who she is.
So I just fired back.
She took a cheap shot, and I took one, you know, I stand up for myself.
You know, you gotta understand this is this is important to all of us here.
Understanding what is going on here?
It's it's much bigger than Ann Coulter.
It's much bigger than the lies and besmirchmen and smears that I've lived through in the last week.
It's it's so much bigger.
It's it's bigger than Bill O'Reilly.
It's bigger than you know, the times they've gone after Rush or Dr. Laura or or Glenn Beck or Laura Ingram.
It's it's just it there's a level in the age of Trump and an intensity that I've never seen before.
And now I'm pretty confident, and I know for sure, because I know people are paid.
I wish these people that are paid, we ought to try and find them and interview them.
They paid to monitor every word I say on this radio show, and every other host, not just me, any other conservative host, I should say.
They monitor every hour of TV and in the hopes that I'll say something that they think is boycottable, and they'll try and get me off the air that way.
But it's still the same thing.
It's liberal fascism.
The reason they're doing it is political.
They want to live in a society where where you ha you better thread that needle perfectly, and any time you get it wrong, you're dead.
You're done.
We're gonna get rid of you.
Pretty amazing.
But that's that is the environment we're now working and living in.
That's why it wasn't an accident.
Two days after Bill O'Reilly and Fox News part waves, you know, somebody that has been literally lying about me for a decade.
I think this event happened in what, 2004, Linda?
When was it?
It might it might even be 03.
It might even be 03.
I don't even know.
I don't even know.
That I that I invited this person back to my hotel.
Wow.
That you possibly didn't even have.
Well yeah, because we we were pretty sure I flew out after the event, which is which is what you normally do.
Which is what I almost always do.
If if we're close to home, where am I sleeping, Linda?
Home.
Yeah.
I want to sleep in my own bed.
I have landed at airports at 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 a.m. because I want to sleep in my own bed.
I do it all the time.
And the the people that are have been digging into the plane records think that they're almost 99% sure I did not stay there.
So there was no hotel.
But it's neither here nor there.
The the history of this person.
And then you get into the media and all these news organizations.
So you have a person who has been proven to have lied about me repeatedly in the past, slandered me in the past, provable lies.
That she makes a wild accusation on a talk show somewhere in Oklahoma, and then all of a sudden the New York Times has called me.
We want a statement.
Okay.
We give them the history of who this woman is and the lies, provable lies and attacks she's made.
Then we give them a statement about the team of lawyers and investigators I've hired, and they say, five minutes later, no thanks, we're not interested.
We're not running the story.
I haven't told that story yet.
The New York Times backed off immediately.
And I can tell you what happened.
The writer of that column, that article brought it to their general counsel.
Their general counsel said, uh no, this is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
No, thank you.
And by the way, some of you people in the media, you might be hearing from friends of mine very, very soon.
Very soon.
Sooner than you think soon.
So stay tuned.
I wrote that on Twitter.
Do you see my tweet tonight, Linda?
I always see your tweets, boss.
Thank you to all my irredeemable, deplorable friends.
Stay tuned.
Now you think you know you you're smiling because you think you know you don't know what I'm doing.
You I haven't told you what I'm doing yet.
You're not even you're just smiling.
Haven't I been here long enough to know already?
Don't I know before you know?
Ah, it's so annoying.
It's a little annoying.
It's a little annoying.
All right, let me get to um let me get to the phones.
Donna Frederick Frederick Meryland is next on the Sean Hannity show.
Donna, hi, how are you?
Been a long time.
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
It is such a pleasure to hear your voice.
And I have been a long time listener.
I remember that listener, not listener, you're a listener.
And I was not far from you at WZDX.
And um, and there were a lot of people I work with down there that was very fond of you.
And I want to say I'm thrilled that you're standing up for yourself.
I think it's about time we hit them back.
It's part of their whole useful idiot mantra.
They they they're like sharks that that smell blood in the water, and they're relentless.
So I think it's really great.
You're pushing back him hard, and we the people are behind you, Sean.
I I just look, I as I said to somebody in the media, I said, Oh, I want some fair shot.
Just take a look at this.
Just look at it and then tell me, you know, put yourself in my shoes, and it's two thousand and four, th Linda's saying three, and it's this event, and here's the history of smears, lies, besmirchmen, and slander.
And you tell me if i and that's the frustrating thing.
I mean, it would have taken a a rudimentary simple Google search.
And here's the here's the legal question that's that will be investigated deeply.
Did the media have an obligation to do even rudimentary, simple, basic background work on one person's statement before they ran with their with their huge headline?
Did they have an obligation as a member of the media?
Is that is there a level of responsibility they should bear on allegations?
Well, that might be the that might be ultimately the question we're gonna be asking in this case.
I don't want to give it all away, but I'm just I'm trying to lay the groundwork here for what is at stake.
In other words, if somebody for fifteen years smears Donna and Frederick Maryland, and then that same person comes out with a scurrilous allegation, something so outrageous that uh any media outlet they say, All right, we're gonna report Donna from Frederick, Maryland is accused of this.
But they could have Googled and they could have done rudimentary background work, but they're too lazy and too incompetent and too disrespectful of the truth to even bother a Google search.
Do they have a responsibility before they do that?
I say they do.
They're desperate because it's work for them.
Think about the people that work with like Alan West and uh Herman Kane, Sarah Palin.
You're just another person in the long line of people that they're trying this garbage on because it happens to work for them.
I think those days are over.
We'll see.
There's uh there's there's gonna be a lot of good, interesting, fun questions that are raised here in the end.
And uh Donna, I appreciate your kind words.
God bless you.
Thank you for being uh out there.
We appreciate it.
Uh let's get to our busy phones as we say hi to Ken is in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, uh, listening to WFLA.
What's up, Ken?
How are you?
Hey, Sean, hope you're feeling better.
Not yet, but I'm getting there.
A little bit better.
Getting there, getting out.
Sean, I was just I'm calling regarding the wall.
You know, this is an uphill battle for Mr. Trump doing what he's doing.
And I as you know, I live in South Florida, and we d we you know, we have influx of uh Cubans coming over the on the rafts constantly, which you know, I I I don't blame him for leaving that country with the time they had to, but with this wall, I I was wondering why does it I'm sure he has, I just haven't heard it.
Why doesn't he talk to the people already down there?
Is it an alternative way of resolving the problem other than a wall?
Like is there some places that wall is not gonna be practical where it goes across rivers and stuff, as we know, and it's gonna be an uphill battle no matter what for him.
But we all need that this country definitely needs some type of border control, and the Coast Guard does what they can out here and it's interesting, just enforcing the laws.
We've got a 17-year low of illegal immigration, so that that's helping.
But I actually think that we do need the wall.
And uh that's my own personal opinion.
I understand that it's not gonna cover the entire two thousand, two hundred miles, whatever the length happens to be, but maybe a thousand of them, maybe then other ultra security cameras.
You know, there's new technology we certainly can use in areas, but having been down there myself as often as I've been, I don't think there's any doubt that you need a wall.
But in order to get that wall done, it's gonna take so long to build, and it might be I mean it it's already stopped a lot since he's been in office.
You look at how much is already decreased, which is phenomenal, just by him scaring him as a new sheriff in town attitude.
I'm just thinking for the time being get the ball rolling if they can come up with this some alternative method before the wall does get built, just to stop it from uh slowing it down, doing what they can.
And I hope the best for him, and I hope it works out.
Oh, I appreciate it.
Good call.
Thank you, Ken 800 941.
Sean, you want to be a part of the program.
All right, Lance, we got about 40 seconds, KRMG.
What's up, Lance?
How are you?
Hi, Sean, how are you today?
I'm good, sir.
Forty seconds, yours.
Go.
Great, great.
Well, uh it's a pleasure speaking to you.
Thank you for all you do.
I'm calling in on the wall as well.
I feel like a lot of the conversation surrounding the wall has been tactical.
And I think in light of the new voice program and some of the other services that will be provided for victims' families, I'd like to see the narrative shift on the wall being more of a a memorial or a monument to honor the families of the victims of violent crime.
Uh we are a nation of laws.
I think that you know controlling that narrative and creating a symbol.
So you're saying maybe like honor these people that have been killed by illegal immigrants and put their names up on the wall.
Correct.
Correct.
This Yeah, I I got a role, but I don't think that's a bad idea.
And let those parents know that that we are now that wall was built in honor of their loss and that America is taking it seriously, so other people don't need to suffer the way they have suffered.
I can't imagine losing a parent this way like we had Steve Ronnebeck on the program yesterday, and he lost his 21-year-old soul Grant Ronabeck to a guy that was a criminal alien that had kidnapped and held hostage a woman for a week and was released and not deported.