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The push for health care now moving forward way behind the scenes, and it looks like the Freedom Caucus is on board.
There is a new group putting America first.
Donald Trump Jr. will join us as they have put out ads now, some $3 million in ads in districts that are key to getting that health care bill across the finish line.
And Coulter and I, we might have a slight disagreement over the president's use of military force in Syria and in Afghanistan, and we'll talk about that with her.
She'll join us today.
Pat Buchanan will probably also have a similar disagreement.
We'll get his thoughts on this.
Also, the new rules of engagement and what do we do about the erased intelligence that was created by the Department of Homeland Security.
We've got Philip Haney and Captain Roger Hill all joining us today in the course of this program.
As we start the show today, I got to tell you, there is, you know, it was almost pandemonium breaking out over the Georgia 6th District last night as John Ossoff, the guy that doesn't even live in the district.
When you've got one Democrat running against what, 12, 13, 14 Republicans, you think, oh, okay, this guy's got a chance.
And he failed last night to get enough support to avoid a runoff to replace now Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price in Congress.
And losing that race was bad enough.
But now the Democratic Party's kiss of death, their foulmouth DNC chairman, Tom Perez, who was just booed off the stage at a so-called Democratic Unity rally in Maine.
Oh, he's rushing down to Georgia to help campaign for Ossif.
And I can tell you, after living four years in Atlanta in Roswell, that's not going to help the Democratic Party.
Now, it's not all bad for Osoff.
At least now he won't have to move out of his girlfriend's house and relocate inside his congressional district.
But anyway, DNC Chairman Tom Perez headed to Georgia to rally support for the Democratic candidate ahead of the June 20th special election runoff.
And the DNC announced that Perez will speak at the Democratic Party of Georgia's dinner in Atlanta on Thursday to try and boost and raise money.
They threw a lot of money at this guy.
I think they threw $10, $11, $12 million into this race as there were so many Republicans running against this one Democrat.
He's a 30-year-old former congressional aide, lives outside the district.
And Perez also sent a fundraising email to Democrats around the country to support both the party and this particular campaign.
He said, if we go all in and elect John, we'll turn Georgia's 6th District blue for the first time in 38 years and send a big loud message.
See, they wanted this to be against Trump.
Everybody in the media got on board a race because they just want Trump to look bad and to lose.
You see, the one thing Democrats fear the most is that Donald Trump is going to be successful.
That's the last thing that can possibly happen.
Anyway, but as a side note, and it was in The Hill today, the president actually put his political clout on the line yesterday.
See, in the polls were showing that this guy Aussoff could win without a runoff election in June, and he made a late round of robocalls on behalf of the GOP field.
And the president ramped up his attacks on Democratic House candidate, noting on Twitter that he doesn't live in the district for which he's running for Congress.
He tweeted out, quote, just learned John Osoff, who's running for Congress in Georgia, doesn't even live in the district.
Republicans get out and vote.
He put it on Twitter about two hours before the polls closed in that special election.
And the tweet from Trump was the second time the president attacked him on Tuesday when voters were heading to the polls to decide who they want to fill the seat that was vacated by Tom Price when he became Trump's Health and Human Services Secretary.
And earlier in the day, the president took to Twitter to encourage Republicans to vote in the election, arguing that Osoff is weak on crime and immigration.
And he would be a disaster in Congress.
Very weak on crime, any illegal immigration, bad for jobs, wants higher taxes.
Say no.
Anyway, the Democrats, they put a ton of money into this.
They failed.
Look, I'm not saying it's going to be easy in a runoff.
I think Republicans got into this really late warnick anticipating any battle or any fight on this thing, but we'll see what happens.
You know, I know that Tax Day has come and gone, and we've got the latest numbers in from 2014.
This is something you need to pay attention to.
We have record collections in government.
You've got 52,062,499 income tax filers, people that work and file their income taxes, that paid no taxes in the last year we have numbers for, which is 2014.
Anyway, of the 148, 48,606,578 individual tax returns that they sent in in 2014, well, you've got 35% file what the IRS calls non-taxable returns.
That means they paid no net individual income tax.
So you've got the top 1% paying, you know, 50% of the taxes or 40% of the taxes, top 10% paying 75% of the taxes.
And then you still hear the same old talking points that the rich don't pay their fair share.
And if you actually want to break it down in days, look, you're a taxpayer.
Forget if you live in, if you're stupid like me and you live in New York or you live in California and maybe it's the weather that keeps you there.
Maybe it's San Diego and the beach and the coastline that keeps you there.
Okay, I get it, but you're paying mightily for that view if you ever get to see it.
Because the average taxpayer alone spends 113 days just working to pay the nation's tax burden.
Americans are going to spend $5.1 trillion on federal, state, and local taxes this year alone.
And what do you get for that money?
Pretty much nothing.
I mean, for example, in my town, they're trying to fix a road.
It's taken them three years to fix a road.
That should have been fixed in like three weeks.
Well, we've got to build a seawall.
We'll build the seawall from the seaside of the wall and you don't have a problem.
And you're not taking up an extra 20, 30 minutes for everybody that wants to get to work every day.
I mean, is there really that much to ask that my roads be paid for all the money we pay in taxes?
Look, here's New York.
40% federal income tax, 10% state income tax.
Then you got county tax.
Then if you work in the city, you pay it city tax.
Then you pay your FICA tax.
It's like 60-plus cents per dollar that government takes.
And then you've got almost half of taxpayers that pay nothing.
Anyway, I digress here.
Some of the other news, we didn't have a lot of coverage.
You have the AP, the story of this look like the American media bending over backwards yesterday, trying to minimize the terrorist threat to America, reminding us reminiscent of Obama's era.
But the AP edited the words of a Muslim man who allegedly killed three people in downtown Fresno, and it was reported shouting Allahu Akbar.
And the suspect, 39-year-old Corey Ali Muhammad, holds fervent anti-Trump beliefs, according to social media and his social media profile, told police afterward that he hates white people.
But rather than reporting the gunman's literal words, the AP reported the gunman was saying, God is great.
Now, why would they do that, knowing that is not what he said?
And Allahu Akbar is known for what it is: a call to arms.
It's said often, the 9-11 hijackers said it.
Anyway, so the Fresno police apparently suffering from a severe case of terrorist denial syndrome.
But anyway, authorities said they believe the gunman did shout Allahu Akbar after he walked through Fresno, randomly shooting and killing three men, committing a hate crime and not an act of terrorism.
That's how they're defining this.
And the Fresno police chief, Jerry Dyer, 39-year-old, said 39-year-old Corey Ali Muhammad's shooting spree, was based solely on race.
We don't believe it's a terrorist attack or a terrorist act.
We believe it was a hate crime.
It was definitely a hate crime based on his comments and his statements made by Muhammad after his arrest.
And officers were able to find Muhammad and take him into custody without further incident.
Muhammad was being arrested.
Dyer said he yelled out, Allahu Akbar.
Now, Allahu Akbar does mean God is great in Arabic, but it's also the phrase that is used by radical Islamic terrorists in almost every incident that we cover.
And we looked at his Facebook page.
We knew he had some posts that said he doesn't like white people, and also the post that he expressed some anti-government sentiments.
All the victims randomly targeted were white, according to the police.
What motivated these crimes today was hatred.
We're still in the man-cause disaster overseas contingency operation mentality in this country.
It's unbelievable.
And now we've got a problem.
I mean, this is, we'll get into this in greater detail later in the program with Phil Haney and with Captain Roger Hill.
But we have a bombshell account, highly decorated, former Air Force captain, said the 2011 chopper crash that killed 17 members of the Navy SEAL Team 6 was a direct result of the Obama administration's overly restricted rules of engagement.
Now, if we're going to send brave men and women to fight, bleed, and die, well, then maybe we ought to, you know, give them the ability to fight an enemy without putting handcuffs on them.
Anyway, Circa News and our friend Sarah Carter reported that this decorated retired Air Force officer who witnessed one of the most deadly attacks on Navy SEALs in U.S. history, breaking his silence, saying that the government covered up evidence detailing the 2011 downing of a Chinook helicopter gunship.
And the Air Force captain, Joni Marquis, said that the crash could have been prevented had it not been for restrictions to the military rules of engagement that were put in place under the Obama administration.
Well, I hope somebody, I hope General Mad Dog Mattis or somebody out there is changing these rules because we certainly don't need to put handcuffs on men and women when they're trying to fight, bleed, and die, and they have a right to go home to their kids.
Anyway, the story goes on to say that they were working in the dark morning hours aboard an AC-130 gunship after being summoned to a mission she described as almost like a 9-11 type of situation.
And the Rangers had called in for assault helicopters to engage the enemy hiding in the Rocky Valley below.
The air weapons team fired on the Taliban fighters.
Not all the insurgents were killed as originally believed.
They had sensor operations immediately shift to the eight insurgent helicopters had taken out.
And in the first interview that this woman gives about the incident, two are still alive.
And Marquez says that the fire patrol officer aboard the AC-130 gunship, making sure that the sensors and the weapons were aligned and allowing the crew to hone in on targets.
And monitoring the scene from above, she relayed the scene to the ground force commander.
You have two enemy forces that are still alive.
Anyway, permission was denied.
Permission to engage, they asked.
Permission denied.
How do you deny permission in that particular case?
And she watched as two enemy fighters move tactically through the open field, making their way to a village where they began to rally more fighters.
And meanwhile, the Chinook helicopter with the call sign Extortion 17 was called into an hours-long fight, firefight with these guys.
U.S. Central Command's official investigation concluded that the rocket-launched grenade from a Taliban fighter hit the Chinook and sent the helicopter in a downward spiral.
And the crash killed all 38, including 38 Americans and eight Afghans.
And 17 of the U.S. servicemen were Navy SEALs.
And months before, the SEALs were made famous for killing bin Laden.
It's unbelievable to me.
You know, we're having the whistleblower Joni Marquez on the show on Monday, along with Sarah Carter and Karen Vaughan.
They lost their kids in this particular incident.
It's unbelievable.
Quote, they continue to essentially gain more and more force behind them because they just kept knocking on doors, and the two personnel that initially fled ended up becoming a group of 12.
So in other words, rules of engagement killed American brave men and women.
It's pretty unbelievable.
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All right, busy news day today.
Ann Coulter, Donald Trump Jr. will get into all of this as it relates to the rules of engagement and, of course, intelligence gathering with Phil Haney and Captain Roger Hill, who wrote the true story of American soldiers abandoned by high command.
Pat Buchanan checks in today.
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We got a lot of great guests today.
We're going to be debating the rules of engagement, intelligence gathering, unmasking, and leaking.
That's coming up with Phil Haney and Captain Roger Hill.
Pat Buchanan and Coulter and I will probably disagree on the president's use of force in Syria.
And we'll talk about, you know, what the conditions need to be, what Americans' involvement on the world stage needs to be, what the Trump doctrine should be.
So that's all coming up.
I want to just reiterate a point I was making on the show yesterday.
It's now nearly 100 days into the Trump administration, nearly 100 days.
And the question I have is really simple.
And that is, how can Congress, after eight years of promising and pledging and making commitments to repeal and replace Obamacare, they can't get it done in 100 days?
My level of anger here just surpasses any fundamental understanding I have.
There's so much to do to fix the country for the better that's not getting done because they're all dragging their feet and they're on their two-week hiatus.
They're on their two-week vacation, which I'm sure most of you would love to have another two-week vacation, which most of you probably don't get until Christmas or maybe the summer or whenever you take your two-week vacation every year because most people I know don't get that much vacation.
I'll be honest on my contract, I have a lot of vacation.
But in reality, I never take the vacation.
I don't take the vacation because, number one, I feel an obligation to work.
And number two, I don't understand that particular life of people.
And I'm just, I watch and I witness and I'm sitting there and I'm thinking, wow, these people taking more vacation.
And meanwhile, they can't even get the health care bill done because they weren't prepared.
It's like if you're failing on tests or exams, you double down on your study habits.
You double down on getting it right, especially if the class is going somewhat sideways.
You know, so the president's getting all his done.
You know, Neil Gorsuch is on the Supreme Court.
We have a half a million jobs added.
The president's negotiating with companies like Ford and GM and Toyota and Intel and Fiat Chrysler.
He's getting rid of Obama-era regulations.
He wants to eliminate up to 75% of them.
He's ended the war on coal.
That's helping the coal industry.
That's saving jobs, getting rid of red tape.
Illegal immigration has been reduced because now he's enforcing the law.
They've taken a tough stance against sanctuary cities.
President means it.
We saw what happened with the mother of all bombs to take on ISIS and defeat ISIS.
He's put plans like imposing a lobbying ban.
He's sanctioned Iran over the missile program.
He's restoring America's leadership in the world.
Look what he did in Syria.
And it goes on and on.
I just, when did these guys, Republicans, do their part?
Because I know the Freedom Caucus is ready.
All right, let me come back.
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Ann Coulter, Donald Trump Jr., and Pat Buchanan today.
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Sean is in Florida.
Sean, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
Thanks for taking my call.
I want to bring up the Fresno shooting and the fact that we still seem to be operating under the Obama doctrine of protecting radical Muslims and protecting the terrorists in this country.
And I thought that would be a thing of the past with the election of President Trump.
But still, these police, it's been reported that the shooter, he shot, I think it was three people, but the shooter said two or three times, Allah Akabar, whatever the heck the name is.
And anyway, it's like, why will we not admit it?
Admit it.
It is a threat to our country.
I mean, we've even had Bridget Gabrielle.
She's a former Muslim, and she has said the religion of Islam directly threatens the people of the United States.
And yet we're still covering up for these people.
Yeah, look, we have brought on more people, more experts, more times, explained in such specific detail what life for women and Christians and Jews and minorities and gays and lesbians are under Sharia and the horror of their lives and the discrimination that is mainstream.
Now, then it raises the issue: if you grow up under that culture in that society and you want to come to America, you know, are you coming here because you want to assimilate and get away from that oppressive tyranny and treat people and offer equal rights to all individuals?
Or do you want to come here proselytize and advance the caliphate that you have been indoctrinated into since you're a kid?
I mean, it's a hard question, right?
Well, I mean, and the other thing is, too, is the very people that Sharia law persecutes are the very people that are the first ones to be standing at an airport holding signs against the travel ban and against banning Muslims from countries that sponsor terrorism.
Yeah, well, look, I don't want a religious litmus test because there are people of different faiths, the Muslim faith, that don't adhere to the radicalism.
But the problem is, if you're coming from Yemen, if you're coming from Saudi Arabia, or you're coming from any of these countries that practice this very extreme form of Sharia, how is it ever possible to ascertain whether you come here in peace or you come here because you think that Allah is guiding you to kill the infidel?
I don't know how you determine the difference.
Anyway, I appreciate the call, Sean.
We're going to move on.
Thank you so much, 800-941-Sean, our toll-free telephone number.
All right, Donna's in Staten Island.
Sean, I wanted to talk about the fact that I'm so disturbed by how little decency we have in our society these days and what kind of role models we're putting forth for our kids.
I mean, when you have the head of the Democrat Party on TV using vulgar language and acting like he's involved in like a schoolyard fight, that's really disturbing to me because we no longer have the kind of role models that are putting forth a better example for our children.
There's ways to disagree.
I'm one of the first people to say some bad things from time to time.
But I think if you're a person who's on TV and you're at the forefront of society, you should be held to a little bit of a better standard in terms of how you speak.
You lead by example.
I think that that's something that's very sorely missing in our society today.
And I really feel bad for all of our kids.
I hope that that can be turned around.
I mean, you take these celebrities, the disgusting things that Ashley Judd and Madonna and Sarah Silberman, they're just, they're looking unhinged.
They're behaving like crazy people.
And it's really sad that these are the people our kids have as role models.
I'd rather have somebody that speaks softly, eloquently, gets their point across, conveys their disappointment, and is able to say to people, we need to change things.
I don't like what's going on, but let's work together and let's speak civilly to one another, behave like grown-ups.
It's kind of descending into this schoolyard fight that's very disturbing.
And to our detractors that insist that this march will never add up to anything, f you.
F you.
But this is the hallmark of revolution.
Yes, I'm angry.
Yes, I am outraged.
Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.
I am a nasty woman.
I'm nasty.
Like my bloodstains on my bed sheets.
We don't actually choose if and when to have our periods.
Believe me, if we could, some of us would.
We don't like throwing away our favorite pairs of underpants.
Tell me, why are tampons and pads still taxed when Viagra and Rogan are not?
Is your erection really more than protecting the sacred, messy part of my womanhood?
Is the blood stain on my jeans more embarrassing than the thinning of your hair?
Have you been trying to convince us that we're interested in seeing the documents?
Do you want to see his taxes?
Yeah!
Do you want to see his taxes?
Mr. President, what you are putting forth is alternate facts.
Get up, get down.
We show our taxes in this town.
Get up!
Get down!
We show our taxes in this town.
Show me what democracy looks like.
This is what democracy looks like.
Show me what democracy looks like.
This is what democracy looks like.
One, two, three, four.
Chicken Dot has got to go.
One, two, three, four.
Chicken Dot has got to go.
We must say that Truss Taxes is where we start today, but we will not in there.
All of our rights must be protected.
And who that?
Now, first of all, what's the big deal about my taxes?
Okay, since you guys are my supporters, I'm going to share with you what's on my taxes.
Because this is between us, okay?
Don't let the protesters know what I'm going to tell you.
So what?
I owe $50 million to Deutsche Bank.
Who cares?
Who cares?
That's publicly known.
But what you don't know is I know where all the Nazi gold is hidden in Switzerland.
And I have it.
And I have it.
I have it.
I have it.
So wonderful.
So let's release them, boys.
Release the taxes.
There we go.
There we go.
Releasing the taxes.
I told Jared to shred my taxes, but I thought shred was Yiddish for Kole.
I appreciate it, Donnie.
Thank you.
You've been with us forever.
We love you.
We appreciate it.
Let's go to Chrissy is in Cleveland in Ohio.
Hey, Chrissy, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
Thank you for being a great American.
And thank you for holding, or at least trying to hold, the media accountable.
And the media is supposed to be holding Congress accountable.
And like you, I am angry.
And I don't understand.
You know, we've given the Republicans the houses.
We've given them the presidency.
And, you know, what's the big holdup?
And I'm guessing that there just has to be so much corruption between, you know, Congress, the media, who's got what on who, that, I mean, there have to be bombshells out there that are keeping these people from doing what it is we want them to do.
Listen, I got to tell you, I honestly feel they don't have the work ethic and they don't have the urgency that I think the average American on their job and the pressure that everybody feels on their job every day.
Every job I've had in my life, pressure.
Washing dishes, pressure.
Getting papers out, pressure.
Being a cook, pressure.
Getting tables clean in a busy restaurant, pressure.
Being a waiter, pressure.
Bartender, pressure.
Building contractor, pressure, roofing, pressure.
You know, framing houses, pressure, painting, pressure.
You just, you have to get the job done or you don't get paid.
You have to get it done in a reasonable period of time or you don't make money.
You might as well do it for free at that point.
So they don't have the same urgency that I've had my entire life.
I have to be ready every day, 3 to 6 Eastern, 12 to 3 Pacific, to do a radio program.
And I've got to be ready to come on the air with news and information that you're not going to get anywhere else.
And the same thing with the TV program at 10 Eastern.
And I don't get to go at 10 o'clock and say, you know, I think I'm going to take a vacation today.
It's just not how it works.
And it's not how I want to work.
You know, I have, I love doing this.
I want to get the job done.
I want to be the best I can be.
And for some reason, that motivation seems to be missing from these guys.
Bad for America, great for mainstream media, fake news edits.
This is the Sean Hannity Show.
What's going to happen next?
We promised repeal 50 times, and so we're working that out.
And I think within a few weeks, I think DC will be a little bit shocked.
I think we're going to get to yes.
Healthcare is going to happen at some point.
Now, if it doesn't happen fast enough, I'll start the taxes.
But the tax reform and the tax cuts are better if I can do health care first.
Holding them accountable.
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It's not often I disagree with my friend Ann Coulter, but I think we disagree on this issue involving Syria and obviously the ratcheting up of the rhetoric as it relates to North Korea.
But she always writes provocative, smart columns, and she writes, war is like crack for presidents.
It confers instant gravitas, capitulating them to respectability, bypassing all station stops.
And they get to make macho pronouncements on a topic where every utterance is seen as August.
Anyway, she joins us now.
How are you?
Fine, thanks.
How are you?
Look, here's my take.
I know his tweet that everybody referred to.
See, he's changed his mind, but I don't want a rigid ideologue as president.
I want somebody that thinks through the different evolving situations.
For example, I love the fact that Trump hit it off with the president of China.
And as a result, China's renegotiating trade deals, and China is also working to a resolution with North Korea.
What is America, I know he can't be the world's policeman, but it is in keeping with Trump, and that is that we're going to defeat terrorism, that we're not going to put boots on the ground, that we're not looking to occupy.
Right.
And I think the message that was sent is that's a line.
You can't kill innocent children with chemical weapons.
So it didn't bother me at all, but it seems to bother you.
Well, I'm glad Trump pulled back from his Dr. Strangelove generals who want to send ground troops.
That McMaster is out of his mind.
But I mean, I just say whether I'm right or you're right on Syria, I mean, I think we're bombing the guy who's protecting Christians.
It could very well be a false flag because he's winning the civil war and so on and so forth.
And is one of the Assad is one of the, I mean, look at that region of the world.
He's one of the better rulers over there.
But whether I'm right or you're right on that, let me just say this isn't what Trump campaigned on.
And yes, you're not going to be a rigid ideologue, but we have been betrayed in this exact same way so many times.
Let's flash back to 2014 when now Senate leader Mitch McConnell campaigned on vote, give us a Republican Senate, and we will block Obama's executive amnesty.
This is unconstitutional.
We didn't vote on it.
Obama himself said it was unconstitutional.
All the Republicans, and in close races, they use it.
Democrats would not defend that unconstitutional dreamer's amnesty because they'd be killed.
They'd be killed in elections.
That's what Republicans ran on.
And we gave them a majority, a huge majority in the House and the Senate.
Did they block Obama's executive amnesty?
Why, no, they did not.
But they did meet with Netanyahu.
Well, listen, you and I agree.
I'm thinking that's not what we ask for for our anniversary gifts.
We didn't want a trip to NASCAR.
We wanted a trip to Paris.
And to be getting the same stuff from Republicans, what set Trump apart?
And he has backed away from, I mean, it is just this one bombing.
So even if it was foolhardy, we're not apparently at this time sending ground troops.
But Republicans, I mean, what was so great about Trump was that he was an all-new Republican.
It wasn't the same old, and I agree with many of these policies, by the way, but pro-life, tax cuts, constant military interventions.
I'm as pro-life as they come.
What have Republicans given us on that?
Meanwhile, Democrats are secretly changing the country through immigration so that we'll end up never being able to elect another Republican.
Trump will be the last one.
We'll have nine Ruth Bader-Ginsburgs on the Supreme Court.
We'll never do anything about abortion.
That's why immigration is the biggest issue, and I really would prefer to have the president talking about a dangerous regime on our border and not various and his generals mostly talking and military war strategist Nikki Haley talking about war with Russia, North Korea, and Syria.
Could we get back to America?
Listen, there's nothing you're saying here that I disagree with.
I mean, no boots on the ground, no occupations.
I think drawing a line in the sand on chemical weapons, that there's a price to pay, that's a morally right thing to do.
Can we do it every time?
No.
Now, as it relates to saber-rattling in North Korea and them having ICBMs, it is a scary scenario when you have a mentally unbalanced human being in charge of a nuclear arsenal that is desperately seeking intercontinental ballistic missile capability so his nukes can make it to the shores of America.
What do you do about that?
Well, for one thing, remind everyone that this problem entirely arose because of Bill Clinton and that peace in our time deal made by Madeline Albright uh, giving the North Koreans, um what they needed to build nukes.
Once a country has nukes, we're in a pickle.
It's, it's quite a difficult situation.
Obviously we can't go to war with them because they do have nukes.
Um, I do think the situation is different from the Dr Strange Love era in the sense that there is no Soviet Union anymore.
I mean, when Reagan came to power, it had just been one country after another falling to communism.
You couldn't make a Red Dawn style movie today.
That that isn't our concern.
Today's enemy is Is Islamic terrorism.
And frankly, I think we could work with Russia on that.
They've been fighting these Islamic loonies for thousands of years.
So, you know, you don't have to love Russia.
We didn't love Russia in World War II when we allied with Stalin to defeat Hitler.
There's a bigger enemy these days.
And as for, I mean, I'm tying this back to North Korea.
So what?
It's a rotten country.
South Korea has to worry about that.
And I promise you, South Korea does not want us attacking North Korea because they will instantly launch a new gun.
There'll be 20 million dead people.
Yeah.
But you know, one of the things, like the way the media reported that Trump didn't label China a currency manipulator.
You know, what they're forgetting here is the president of China met with Trump.
He was supposed to have two half-hour meetings that went on for over six hours.
Number two, they hit it off.
Number three, the president agreed to trade negotiations and concessions.
And number four, he's helping America deal with its North Korea problem and that part of the world.
So, you know, that's a little nuance that the average liberal media hate Trump personality on TV doesn't seem to understand.
That I like.
That to me is the art of the deal.
Well, I'd make one little correction to that.
I think North Korea is a much bigger problem for China.
I mean, I thought it was weird when Trump tweeted out: if China won't deal with North Korea, we will act.
Why doesn't China say, and if America won't deal with Mexico, we will act?
I mean, North Korea is right on their border.
They have illegal aliens coming across from North Korea.
Frankly, North Korea is their problem.
We can help.
He's crazy.
I don't disagree.
But the Chinese president did send back North Korean coal and took in American coal.
No, okay, there's some trades, but they are engaging in currency manipulation, and Trump did campaign on it, so I'm not wild about that.
But look, as long as I can still use the pool at Mar-a-Lago and he builds the wall and deports illegals, I'll be fine.
Have you used the pool at Mar-a-Lago?
I've not used the pool.
I didn't know there was a pool down there, and that's how little I know about Mar-a-Lago.
The beach, it's beautiful.
Oh, I'm glad you're enjoying it.
Well, you live in paradise, or you know, you've been to paradise for a number of times.
So, all right, let me ask this question.
So, the left is still unhinged.
You see the media attacking him every day.
We saw over last weekend, Sarah Silverman telling Trump, show us your blanking taxes.
And then you've got, you know, a whole tax day montage.
Here, listen to some of this.
It's also kind of all we have.
So, show us your fing taxes, you emotional child.
You like being a superficial bully?
Here's one for you.
You are a three at best.
You've been trying to convince us that we're interested in seeing the documents.
Do you want to see us?
Mr. President, what you are putting forth is often facts!
Get up!
Get down!
We show our taxes in this tax later!
Get down!
We show our taxes in this tax!
Show me what democracy looks like!
This is what democracy looks like!
Show me what democracy looks like!
This is what kicking taxes!
One, two, three, four!
Chicken dies!
Chicken diet!
We must say as much taxes as where we start today!
But we will not in there!
Let me tell you.
Now, Virgin, what's the big deal about my taxes?
Okay, since you guys are my supporters, I'm going to share with you what's on my taxes.
Because this is between us, okay?
Don't let the protesters know what I'm going to tell you.
So what?
I owe $50 million to Deutsche Bank.
Who cares?
Who cares?
That's publicly known.
I told Jared to shred my taxes, but I thought shred was Yiddish for Kohl.
And to our detractors that insist that this march will never add up to anything, you.
You.
But this is the hallmark of revolution.
Yes, I'm angry.
Yes, I am outraged.
Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.
I am a nasty woman.
I'm nasty.
Like my bloodstains on my bed sheets.
We don't actually choose if and when to have our periods.
Believe me, if we could, some of us would.
We don't like throwing away our favorite pairs of underpants.
Tell me, why are tampons and pads still taxed when Viagra and Rogan are not?
Is your erection really more than protecting the sacred, messy part of my womanhood?
Is the bloodstain on my jeans more embarrassing than the thinning of your hair?
All right, the left goes ballistic.
Ann Coulter responds on the other side.
All right, Ann Coulter continues with us, author of the best-selling book in Trump We Trust, E. Plurb is Awesome.
What do you make of the vitriol that we just played for you?
Well, one thing, I'm really looking forward to my speech at Berkeley next week.
Wow, this is gonna, we ought to go out and cover Ann Coulter at Berkeley.
Yes, you should.
I think I could use some backup.
I sort of feel sorry for the administrators and, you know, the smart liberal students because, you know, they'd like to be able to let me speak.
We're working together to try to make it happen, but in these institutions of higher learning, that may not be possible.
We'll see.
What's strange about it to me is, I mean, Sarah Silverman is historically really, really funny.
She's a funny actress, but none of this is funny.
I mean, all this late night TV, there seems to be an endless supply of just Trump sucks.
That's it.
They want to hear that over and over again.
It's like watching a pep rally.
Our team's great.
Their team sucks.
And the audience is just thrilled.
That's all they want to hear.
There's no logic.
There's no humor.
There's no wit.
It's just Trump sucks.
And they never tire of hearing it.
Now they have to start recycling, recycling attacks.
I can't believe we're back to tax returns.
That's just magnificent.
I tweeted out last week, okay, they tried Russia.
They've moved on to taxes.
If this doesn't work, they're going to go back to that Hollywood access tape.
Well, I mean, look, it's just, listen to Ashley Judd and Ashley and Madonna.
I mean, but there's a certain level of unhingedness here that I don't think I've ever seen before.
Well, it's not so much.
I mean, we've probably seen this level of an unhingedness, but usually it's just a little, you know, it pops out and then goes away.
This is non-stop.
I mean, I've mostly read about this.
I don't watch the late night shows.
But all of these shows, it's just one after another, no humor, no clever punch lines, just a long string of epithets that are difficult to say about, you know, Trump being the orange-haired dumpster fire.
And the crowd, like trained seals, are applauding wildly.
And then the next show comes on, and it's the exact same thing.
Our team's great.
Trump sucks.
It goes on and on and on.
Is this going to go on for four years?
Yeah, I think it is, actually.
I don't think it's going to stop.
I don't think it stops at all.
I just can't believe some of these people, look, some are not smart, but some, Tara Silverman isn't stupid, but she's, I can't believe she's being so hacky.
Oh, and I don't know if you saw this over the weekend that I've been seeing it replayed on Saturday Night Live where they think it's just hilarious.
Their cold open sketch is Trump doing an apprentice vote, which wins for, I thought it was going to be the hackiest line of 2016.
I think it's going to be the hackiest line of 2017, 18, and 19 now.
Oh, that's so clever.
He's picking his staff like in The Apprentice.
There's a certain amount of—what do you make of the infighting, the so-called left liberal coalition versus the banning coalition in the White House?
Well, I have no idea whether it's true.
I tend not to believe the media, the fake news.
But from reading about what the various generals were saying about our interventions, I think I'd like Bannon back on the Security Council.
And I do think we've hit our limit on the number of Goldman Sachs employees we need in the Trump White House at this point.
In fact, I'd like to see a lot fewer.
I mean, one of the many wonderful things about Donald Trump was, and it's never going to happen again, we have a president who was elected with zero support from Wall Street.
99% of Wall Street's donations went to Hillary, and that remaining 1% did not go to Donald Trump.
We finally had a president Wall Street had no control over.
The big donors, no control over.
The idiot establishment Republicans, no control over.
They hysterically opposed this guy.
So yeah, some of us are a little worried that an awful lot of this administration seems to be turned over to establishment Republicans on Wall Street.
Well, it better.
If he keeps his promises, he wins.
If he lets other people, you know, change his views, then I think what got him elected, people are going to be frustrated.
And Coulter, always love having you.
E. Plorbo is awesome.
And Trump we trust.
Thanks for being with us.
Good to talk to you, Sean.
Bye-bye.
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It's been a while since we've had him back on the program.
I became very friendly with him.
Well, I knew him before.
His father ran for president, and we have remained friends since, and now is in charge of the Trump organization while his father's trying to save the world and run the country.
Donald Trump Jr. is with us.
How are you, sir?
What's going on, Sean?
How are you?
Listen, I tried to get you to go to D.C. You wouldn't listen to me.
I send all this information to you, and you like rip it up, you tear it up, and you're like, hey, oh, that's Hannity.
Never shuts up.
No, no, no, man.
I always gave you the time.
It was always very good advice.
Well, listen, welcome back.
You stayed out of the public arena, though, kind of on purpose, right?
Yeah, listen.
You have to stay out of the administration.
But, you know, that said, you get a little taste of the politics stuff, and you want to be involved.
I mean, I fought for two years to help my father get to where he is on a platform that I think is going to benefit everyday Americans.
And the people, certainly all the people and probably across the whole country, but certainly in that vast majority of red that you saw when you broke it down county by county.
And so however I can help from the outside, I'm going to.
You know, one of the things that I learned about your dad, and you were the first person to tell me this, is you called him a blue-collar billionaire.
And I think most Americans now understand that.
And, you know, one of my great frustrations at this moment in his presidency is, you know, I call it the speed of Trump.
I mean, everything and anything he can do on his own, executive order-wise, and reducing regulation and moving forward with the wall and executive action on vetting of refugees and everything in between, you know, opening up the pipelines, energy independence, moving burdensome regulation.
He's gotten done.
I mean, he does it.
And then Congress is so pathetically slow.
I'm so angry that it has taken them so long after eight years of campaigning saying we need the House in 2010, we need the Senate in 2014, we need a Republican president in 2016, and eight years of running on repealing and replacing, and they never had a consensus pill.
Now, that's not it pisses me off.
I can't stand it.
You know, I certainly get it as an American.
I see a lot of that myself.
But, you know, from me, I've seen more done in the last two months than I saw in the last two administrations.
You know, he's getting things done.
He's executing on his promises.
No one in the media is going to talk about it.
They're not going to give him credit for that.
But, I mean, when I look at small business, when I talk about running a business, which is what I'm doing now most of the time, when you see laws that are getting rid of all the old laws that no longer are applicable, that no longer make sense, that may have made sense when you put them into effect.
But now, if you're going to institute a regulation, you've got to get rid of the two old ones that have been sitting on the books.
And the only people that have gotten rich are the lawyers in the process.
Those are things that make sense.
Those are things that are going to allow small business to thrive in this country.
Those are things that are going to allow the economy to grow.
Those are things that are going to create jobs.
And that's what this is all about, Sean.
This is about jobs.
This is about taking care of the hardworking men and women of this country who hadn't had a voice in so long.
So I think they're excited.
And like I said, you'll never hear about it from the media.
But when I go around the country and I see these people, they get it.
And they're letting me know that they get it.
You know, it was yesterday he went to Snap on Tools in Wisconsin.
And it's, you know, I thought it was a pretty great campaign he started by American, hire American.
But this all got started even before he took office with Ford and Carrier and GM and Toyota and Fiat Chrysler and all these other companies now that they know that help is coming via regulation reform.
And certainly when we can get the president's tax plan through, where a corporate rate goes from one of the highest in the industrialized world to one of the lowest, it becomes an environment in which these companies now feel comfortable investing the billions of dollars.
Also, the repatriation of trillions that are parked overseas at a low rate to incentivize them to bring the money back to this country.
100%.
Whether that or whether it's Syria, whether it's everything that's going on right now, American people are seeing resolve for the first time in almost a decade.
They're seeing conviction.
They're seeing resolve.
Someone who says something, they're actually going to act.
They're going to follow through.
They're not just going to sit there and pretend they're doing something and hope for something else to happen.
He's out there.
He's getting after it.
And that's why consumer confidence is an all-time high.
I mean, we haven't seen consumer confidence like this since probably before Reagan.
Well, consumer confidence?
Look at the reduction of illegal immigration coming into the country now because we're actually enforcing the laws.
It's all coming to fruition.
And that's what he ran on.
That's what he's promising.
And I think you're going to see the same thing with healthcare.
I think you're going to see him repeal and replace Obamacare, a law that is basically bankrupting the middle class in America.
And through my outdoor pursuits and the things that I like to do, I mean, I have friends like that.
They're making $50,000, $60,000 a year.
They're paying $1,800 a month for insurance.
I mean, their insurance is more than their mortgage, Sean.
It doesn't work.
Can't bankrupt the middle class of the country to have basically what I'll call insurance in name only, right?
You have insurance, but when you have an $1,800 a month premium, then you have a $10,000 deductible.
Guess what?
Unless you get hit by a bus, you don't actually have insurance.
It's nonsense.
So we have to do something that benefits the people of this country that are paying into this crazy system that's been established and is so broken.
You know, that is the very people.
Those are the very people your father appealed to in Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, which obviously was the game changer of this election cycle.
You mentioned the media.
Look, I consume a lot of media only because it's part of my job.
But I can't take the hostility that is shown toward your father.
And by the way, and towards your family, even your 10-year-old brother gets attacked.
Your sister is getting attacked.
You, Bennett.
Look, you can handle it.
Eric can handle it.
I just find it so obnoxious.
I actually believe that if your father gave every American family $100,000 or every American $100,000 cash, they would say, why is it at $150,000?
There's nothing he can do that's right in their minds, you know?
You know, it's crazy.
They've been pushing all the conspiracy theory narratives for eight months.
There's absolutely no proof.
Yeah, that doesn't seem to matter.
It is a double standard.
But, John, we talked about this during the election.
I mean, it's the same thing when they talk about even some of you see the approval today.
Some of them breaking 50% for the first time.
Then you see the other ones at 24%.
Like, come on, guys, give me a break.
It's the same sampling that told us that we were going to lose by 4 billion points on Election Day.
They're repeating the same mistake.
Do you remember the last time you were on this program was Election Day, and I got the exit polling data at 5.15, just like in 2004 when Dick Cheney called this program at 5.35 because John Kerry, according to the exit polls, was going to be the next president in 2004.
And you were getting bad data.
Look, the data showed your father lost Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, and he got wiped out for the first time.
The week before, we were going to lose Texas, right?
I mean, according to some of these people.
And Utah at one point.
It's that narrative that they keep perpetuating.
But you know what?
I think it's actually okay because the visceral reaction from the left has gone so far.
It's gone so crazy.
When I look at these Berkeley protests, you have people in black face masks.
I mean, this is the voice of the tolerant left.
I think that regular people, people that are in the middle, the people that you really probably actually have to appeal to that are going to be voting again in 18 and in 20, those people are looking at this and saying, give me a break.
This is ridiculous.
I hear this screaming of, he's worse than X person in history.
And I'm saying, I don't know.
It's been a little while since I've been in school, but he's not worse than that person.
It's just absolutely impressive.
Well, I think, I honestly do believe knowing your father as well as I do and having been out on the road with him during the campaign and interviewed him as often as I have.
And, you know, I don't think, I think this is a caricature.
There's no reality.
It's not based in truth.
And to me, none of this noise at the end of the day is going to matter because your father keeps checking off a list of promises he's made.
And if he keeps those promises, I think the American people will be satisfied and he'll probably roll into reelection because that is going to be the barometer by which he is viewed as successful or not.
100%.
And that's what it is.
And, you know, for me, again, I've watched enough from the sidelines to say, you know, this is ridiculous.
So if I can lend my voice, I have a decent following.
If I can lend my voice, if I can, you know, be out there, not within the administration, I don't want to get involved in the politics, but to talk about those same common sense things, to help spread that message, help America First policies that are really getting out there and actually buying ads to get to the regular people because it's really hard to see it through the media these days.
I mean, you can't turn on the TV without, again, the sort of crazy visceral overreaction on one side.
So to be able to get out there to talk to the people again, to talk about the things that he's actually doing, the things he's actually implementing, the promises that he's actually fulfilling, that's an important thing.
And so if I can use the platform that I've been able to build, if I can use my social platform, if I can get out there in the stump and stump for some of these people that are just talking about common sense, the same common sense that we talked about during the campaign and bringing that into government to make sure that things he wants to bring to fruition come to fruition, then I'm going to do that too.
You've actually, you're actually going to be hitting the road again this weekend.
I know Friday you're going to be in Montana.
Saturday you're going to be on Montana, two separate events, and there is...
That's probably about four or five separate events.
But yeah, I'm going to be here all the weekend, basically.
And stumping for Greg Gianforthe's, you know, taking hopefully going to win the special election, taking over Congressman Zinki's spot, who went over to the Interior.
And, you know, he's become a friend of mine.
He's a good guy, and I've known him for a lot of time.
He's a great guy.
What is the America First Policies Group all about?
I know it's a nonprofit.
Listen, it's a lot of the members of basically the team from the campaign, the data guys, Katie, just a bunch of guys that wanted to make sure that Americans are able to see what's happening in the world.
Katie Walsh, when you say Katie.
I want to appeal to both voters as well as people in Congress.
And all positive messaging, but talking about these things.
Talking about right now, obviously the first big rollout that America First Policies is doing is going to be about Obamacare.
Talking about how the premiums are going to go up another 22% this year.
The number of insurers that are dropping out of the exchanges has increased huge numbers.
The fact that there's zero competition in many states, there's one place that you can go, and in some cases, it's not even one.
You have all these insurance companies dropping out that there is no competition at all.
And people don't even have options.
That doesn't work.
Like I said earlier, you can't tell someone who's making $50,000 a year they got to pay $1,800 a month for a family of four to have insurance and you have a $10,000 denote.
Last night on TV, yesterday on radio, earlier today on radio, I'm doing the same thing.
I'm just, I'm so livid that the Republicans are so pathetically slow.
I like the idea.
You've got this television web spot that you put out, Repeal Now, featuring a script praising the House members by taking on this bill, which they had promised and your father promised and getting that done.
And I think the rest of his agenda, certainly his economic agenda, is predicated on it.
Stay right there.
Don Jr. is with us, and we'll talk more about his group that he's now a part of, the campaign that they're a part of, and that is American First Policies.
It's a nonprofit.
And he'll be in Montana both on Friday and Saturday.
And we'll find out when we get back where he's going to be if you want to join him.
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All right, so Don Jr. continues with us.
All right, so this is part of that was the first ad you guys released.
As I understand it, what you're spending $3 million in an ad campaign to get Washington to get off their ass and maybe do a little bit of work, which would be nice.
By the way, have you ever seen people that take as much vacation as these people?
I wonder they're on a two-week recess.
I'm wondering, what are they recessing for that?
I don't know that they've done anything early.
I'm sure they're working.
I know.
I say this to my staff all the time.
Do you ever have time to go to lunch?
I've never been to lunch except if my boss makes me.
I know.
I'll sometimes eat in the building, but that's about the extent of that.
And listen, I've been to Trump Tower all these years, and I would go see you and your brother Eric and your sister, and I'd say hello, and you're like, oh, get out of my office.
I'm busy.
I don't have time for you, Hannity.
You're such a jerk.
Oh, you know, we're working hard, but that's why, you know, for me, it's not, I'm not even involved in these things, but the guys that are going to help out my father and that agenda, I'm going to help them out however I can.
So I'm not even on America first, but I see what they're doing.
I see the team.
I know that they know what he wants.
And I think that they're going to do a phenomenal job getting that message out there.
And that's what this is.
I mean, if they can do it in a positive way, reinforcing the promises that were kept, great.
If they have to take it a different direction later on for other things, I also understand that.
And that's what this is.
But I mean, if we don't think this is going to be some sort of fight, I think we'd be naive because if you looked at what the left is doing, if he adopted Hillary Clinton's entire campaign platform today and implemented it to the greatest ability ever, they wouldn't ever give him a chance.
They wouldn't vote for him.
I mean, that's a good idea.
Listen, I call it Trump derangement syndrome.
I have one personal question for you.
I've always thought of all of your father's kids.
You are the most like him.
And I've always thought that one day you would consider politics.
Am I wrong?
Like I said, everyone keeps asking me.
And then I answer the question in the sense that, hey, I would never eliminate my options.
And then the next day I read about it, he's running for X. He's running for.
I think it all started off with Giuliani after my speech at the convention.
By the way, that was a great speech.
I want you to run for mayor.
Get rid of de Blasio.
But I'm supporting Boogie.
I was going to say, I'd be much more interested in doing something else other than Mayor of New York if I ever did anything.
But that's when they're always like, oh, now he's running for governor.
So, you know, the answer is no time soon.
But, you know, you still catch the bug.
I mean, when you're out there, when you hear real people speak, when you're doing it, you know, I was at the tip of the spear for two years.
I was a surrogate before we had surrogates.
And I was out there, and I got to see these people, and I got to hear their stories, and I got to see the hardships that they're facing and the hope that they actually had for real change.
And so if I can dedicate some of my free time, I'm in this week and I'm just going out for Greg in Montana just to be able to do it.
That's not a part of anything, but I believe in this.
I know that he's the guy that can help push my father's agenda through.
And I know we did really well in Montana.
So it makes a lot of sense.
I know a lot of those people are doing this.
What is the website?
If people are in Montana and want to see you over the weekend, Friday and Saturday, where can they find you?
I know I'm going to be doing, I think, an event on Saturday night in Bozeman.
Then I'm going and I'll be doing an event Friday night, too.
In a couple of the towns.
I think there's actually a webpage up there.
If you look it up online, you can see all the places.
But I think we're doing four or five stops all over the state.
And again, it's just about making sure that people see.
All right.
All right, my friend.
Don, appreciate it.
Always love having you on.
Good to talk to you again.
Glad you're back in the mix.
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If you want to be a part of the program, some are getting nervous after the president hit Syria with 59 Tomahawk missiles, and now North Korea vowing weekly missile launches and a nuclear war at any moment, as we have been following all week.
And anyway, so this goes back to H.R. McMaster, and he said we'll do anything we can short of the military option in North Korea.
Here's what he said: Every president since Bill Clinton has said the U.S. will not tolerate a nuclear-armed North Korea, and North Korea has only grown stronger in their capabilities.
So, why do you think President Trump will have a different outcome?
Well, as you mentioned, this is a problem that has been passed down from multiple administrations.
But our president, I think it's really the consensus with the president, our key allies in the region, Japan and South Korea in particular, but also the Chinese leadership, that this problem is coming to a head.
And so, it's time for us to undertake all actions we can, short of a military option, to try to resolve this peacefully.
And so, we're going to rely on our allies like we always do.
But we're also going to have to rely on Chinese leadership.
I mean, North Korea is very vulnerable to pressure from the Chinese.
80% of North Korea's trade comes from China.
All of their energy requirements are fulfilled by China.
So, in the coming weeks, months, I think there's a great opportunity for all of us, all of us who are really under the threat now of this unpredictable regime, to take action short of armed conflict so we can avoid the works.
All right, then the president responding when he launched the missiles at Syria, and here's what he said: My fellow Americans, on Tuesday, Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad launched a horrible chemical weapons attack on innocent civilians.
Using a deadly nerve agent, Assad choked out the lives of helpless men, women, and children.
It was a slow and brutal death for so many.
Even beautiful babies were cruelly murdered in this very barbaric attack.
No child of God should ever suffer such horror.
Tonight, I ordered a targeted military strike on the airfield in Syria from where the chemical attack was launched.
It is in this vital national security interest of the United States to prevent and deter the spread and use of deadly chemical weapons.
There can be no dispute that Syria used banned chemical weapons, violated its obligations under the Chemical Weapons Convention, and ignored the urging of the UN Security Council.
Years of previous attempts at changing Assad's behavior have all failed and failed very dramatically.
All right, that was the President's comments.
Joining us now is Patrick J. Buchanan, who's been critical of this, and he has a new story out today earlier this week.
He said Syria could consume Trump's presidency.
Pat, I don't see how that happens.
I mean, he's not occupying.
He's not talking about boots on the ground.
I would be against boots on the ground.
And I think he just said this is a line that no country can cross, and that is killing women and children with chemical weapons.
And by the way, I think it does vindicate those of us that believed in the lead up to the war with Iraq that those weapons were removed and brought to Syria, but that's a separate story.
Why do you think this will escalate?
Well, I'm not sure it will.
But I have said that he's put one foot into the Syrian civil war, and if he puts the other in, he will not get out, and it will consume his presidency.
And I think that would be a mistake, because I think his earlier position, no matter how evil Assad and his friends are, Assad, the Russians, the Iranians, Hezbollah are winning the war, and the losers thus far are al-Qaeda and ISIS.
And if you ask me, it's just as Donald Trump said during the campaign, I think ISIS is the primary enemy.
He also said, I will say this, Sean, that we are not going into Syria.
He said that after the strike, we are not going into Syria.
And General Mattis said it was a one-off operation.
I just hope it is, because I don't think we can, I don't see any way out if we plunge into that war.
Well, I don't want America to plunge into the war.
Look, if Vietnam, 58,000 dead, and then we retreat because it becomes politicized, in Iraq and Afghanistan, you know, 5,000 dead and many others losing their limbs and disfigured.
If that, and we pull out there, we politicize that war.
We don't have the stomach to see any of this through anymore anyway, through the lens of politics.
But I don't see any problem with saying don't launch them again or you're going to pay a very dear price without boots on the ground because we have weaponry that is far superior to that of Syria, Russia, or any of these countries.
We don't want to get into war with Russia.
No, we don't.
I don't want to either.
Absolutely not.
But there's a lot of other problems here.
Take Afghanistan, where the Taliban are stronger than they've been since 2001.
It's been 15 years.
We've had huge infusions of U.S. ground troops.
The Russians and the Iranians have now pretty much begun to decide that the Taliban are going to win.
And they seem to be trying to work out some deal there.
We've got problems with our Pakistani ally.
Now, this is the first of these wars, Sean, Afghanistan, and it's in worse situation than it's ever been.
And I think McMaster was over there himself, and the general there is calling for more troops there.
And then you got this thing on the Korean Peninsula.
Now, we didn't start this confrontation here.
But I don't know that Kim Jong-un is going to back down from testing rockets and missiles and maybe even test fire.
I think every indication is he's not going.
I don't think he's going to stop.
I mean, every indication he won't stop.
But, you know, the only hope that I had is that it appeared that the president of China and President Trump had a very good meeting.
I know for a fact they were scheduled to meet for 30, 45 minutes on two occasions.
And in each case, they went over three and a half hours.
And then China talked about making trade concessions, number one.
And number two, they themselves sent back an order of coal that was sent from North Korea, sending North Korea a message.
And they said they would help calm the waters with North Korea, which I also think is the art of the deal with the president not calling them a currency manipulator.
I'll believe it when I see it.
I mean, the president has indicated...
Well, they sent the call back, so, I mean, it happened.
Well, China's trade with North Korea has increased 15-fold, I think, in the last 10 years.
And while they talk good, I mean, they could cut off oil and they could cut off trade, as McMaster said, 80% of trade in no time.
But, Sean, I think you ought to take a look at whether or not North Korea, by putting the pressure on the Americans and building rockets and getting us to take a look at a possible pullback from there, whether they're not working basically in concert with the long-term objectives of China, which is to drive us out of East Asia and out of the Western Pacific back to the third chain of islands.
Yeah, well, listen, it's certainly, you know, I think this guy is crazy enough that if there's any escalation of any type, I would anticipate this idiot would launch a nuclear weapon into South Korea, don't you think?
No, but I think he, I don't think he's insane if I thought that.
Frankly, I think I would be in favor of taking some sort of executive.
You don't think Kim Jong-un is insane.
He knows what he's doing, and he's playing a very tough, hard game.
But if he used a nuclear weapon on South Korea, I mean, all bets are off, his regime would be annihilated, as would he.
But I think he's putting pressure on us.
I think he's not afraid of a small exchange with the Americans.
And I do think if you hit him, and I think, frankly, I think Congress should get back here and debate what we can do and what we should do and what the president's authorized to do.
But I think if we do hit him in some way, I think you've got to expect him to hit back.
You know, the danger of all of these situations, and this was the big mistake in the Clinton era.
I mean, you know, the North Koreans would say, all right, give us this amount of money and we won't build nuclear weapons.
And they played that game again and again and again.
They got all the money, they got all the concessions, and they got the nuclear weapons.
When you get nuclear weapons married to either radical Islamists, which I think will happen eventually in Iran, or, you know, crazy dictators.
By the way, there's only been 105 years of human existence.
You know that in North Korea, right?
Right.
Starting with grandpa.
Then Kim Jong is mentally ill, and now this crazy, chubby son of his.
I mean, it's insane.
You don't have a lot of options when they've got the red button in front of them.
Well, you're exactly right.
And that's what Kim Jong-un, he looked at what happened to Saddam Hussein, who didn't build nuclear weapons.
And he looked at Gaddafi, who made a deal with the Americans and the West to give up all of his WMD.
And he found one of them hung and the other had a worse death than that.
And so he has said the only thing that guarantees that the Americans don't do that to me is if I can hit their bases with a nuclear weapon, I can hit Japan with a nuclear weapon, Okinawa, Guam, and eventually the United States.
That's the only country.
You're a little old school, so you'll understand this phrase that my mother used to use when I was growing up.
You'll rule the day.
I mean, she told me that probably every day of my life growing up.
Are we going to rue the day that we allow this guy to potentially get the ICBMs he's looking for that could reach the continental United States?
I think you can't let him do that.
I mean, I'm not a great hawk, and I'm not anxious for a second Korean war.
But if you're talking about an intercontinental ballistic missile, I don't think you can let him build up that force.
Well, there's only one way to stop him.
Now, if you use military force on him and he thinks the Americans are coming to finish him, I mean, his medium-range nuclear missiles, and he could use them in rockets right down along the DMZ.
The Korean war would be a hellish, hellish event.
It could be millions dead in South Korea, Japan.
You're right.
I think he would unleash everything, and then he would be annihilated, and this would go down in history as one of the worst events of the human experience.
As we continue with Patrick J. Buchanan, and we're discussing, I guess, what the Trump doctrine is eventually going to look like, but I think he's pretty clear.
I would be very surprised in any of these circumstances if Trump wants to put boots on the ground, number one, number two, or occupy any country.
I think he's focused a lot on what is domestic policy, but he's getting pulled in the direction of foreign policy.
But I don't think he's going to change.
I think he's so adamant that the Iraq war was a mistake from the get-go, I don't see him taking the measures that some people are wanting him to take.
You know, like I keep hearing people like John McCain and Lindsey Graham.
I'm like, what are you people racing off to war for?
Well, I think they've got a lot of places they want to fight.
But, you know, they were elated with the hit on Syria, not simply because of the hit itself, but because they thought this would draw us in against the Iranians, against the Russians, against Hezbollah, when our real enemy there, in my view, has always been al-Qaeda and ISIS.
I agree with you.
I think Donald Trump came to the White House really prepared to focus on America first, to rebuilding U.S. manufacturing and jobs and securing the border.
But I think he has, and I think you're right again, he is being drawn into these conflicts.
But, Sean, I can tell you.
I don't have a problem, though, with what he did in Syria, Pat, because, look, America can't be the world's policeman.
You and I agree on that.
We're not going to be able to respond every time.
I agree with you there.
But I do think when such weapons are used against women and children, I don't have a problem with the proportional response, which is don't use them again.
And if you do, you pay a heavy price.
Not boots on the ground, not occupation, not all-out war, but you pay a heavy price.
And I don't think Assad is going to use chemical weapons again.
Well, no, but he did fly out of that same airfield and bomb the same place he had bombed before.
And I do think that let's take North Korea.
I don't think Syria is going to attack the United States because they're winning that war.
But I do think if you hit North Korea, Sean, I don't think they'd hit us with nuclear weapons, but I think they would really take military action.
Look, I was with Richard Nixon when they shot down our plane 100 miles off the coast in 1969, and Nixon did nothing.
I mean, look at China, what they did to George W. Bush.
They shot down, what was that?
They crashed into that EC-29, took it to Hainan Island, forced Colin Powell to apologize twice for allegedly...
Well, who's given the president the advice to send our ships into the area?
Well, I mean, the ships into the...
Well, I have no problem with the ships going into the Sea of Japan.
I think what we're saying is if you hit us, we're going to hit you back.
But if we hit them first, and I don't, here's the problem, Sean.
It is, I think Kim Jong-un is determined to build the kind of weapons that can deter the United States from ever attacking him.
And he wants to use that as a threat against South Korea, against Japan, against Okinawa, against Guam, and against the United States.
And he wants to sit down and negotiate our withdrawal from South Korea.
That's his goal.
And I don't know how you stop him from that without using some kind of military action because he hasn't been deterred yet.
Now we're betting on the Chinese.
But I don't know that the Chinese disagree with the goal that Kim Jong-un's got.
Well, I don't know what the Chinese, I think they have the most influence.
It impacts them the most.
This is their area of the world.
They should be in the lead on this.
There are indications that Trump and the president of China's relationship is good and that they seem to want to get along.
Well, look, I'm not surprised since Trump said we're not going to fool around with Taiwan.
We're not going to force you out of those islets and reefs in the South China Sea.
And I'll give you a much better trade deal if you work with us in Korea.
And we're not going to name you a currency manipulator.
My word, Zhi Xin Ping.
They're probably used to him in Beijing today.
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You know, one of the things we have been following stories that it seems nobody in the media wants to follow, and that is leaking of intelligence and, of course, surveillance of innocent Americans and the lack of privacy and unmasking of innocent people.
And more importantly, how during the Obama years the rules of engagement as it relates to our troops has deteriorated.
I mean, the case of Clinton Lawrence is a good case in point where, you know, here's a guy that takes over a platoon and he's got to make a decision after some members of that platoon earlier before his tenure were killed by guys with motorcycle bombs and they're racing towards his troops and he's got to make a decision.
And the decision then was to kill two Afghanistan guys and it comes out later evidence that showed that their DNA is actually on some IEDs and other events.
So the rules of engagement and those critical, for example, my good friend Terry Jeffrey, who I like a lot at CNS News, I just disagreed with him yesterday about the constitutional authority of the president as commander-in-chief to order both the strike in Afghanistan with the mother of all bombs and the Tomahawk missiles in Syria.
So anyway, there are two people that I think I would love to see working in the Trump administration.
One is Philip Haney, a founding member of the Department of Homeland Security, author of the book See Something Say Nothing.
Captain Roger Hill, who we had on last week, author of the book Dog Company, the true story of American soldiers abandoned by their higher command.
And I think there's an opportunity here to actually right the ship, both at the NSA and surveillance and unmasking and intelligence leaking.
And it's also an opportunity to right the ship as it relates to our troops having proper rules of engagement that doesn't end up putting them in jail for 20 years like Clint Lawrence.
Anyway, welcome back both of you back to the program.
Philip Haney, I want to start with you.
You know, the founding member of the Department of Homeland Security, you have told this audience in the past exactly all the intel that you accumulated was deleted by the Obama administration.
Is there any way to recover that and get the Trump administration that information back?
Yes, there are ways to recover it.
I've already given it to Congress, and they have it.
In fact, I'm working through the FOIA process right now with Judicial Watch on the Tabliki-Jamaat initiative that led directly to the San Bernardino shootings.
And Orlando is also involved as well.
Have you spoken with anyone within the Trump administration?
Is there any way we can get that information in the hands of, say, Reince Prieves or Steve Bannon or, you know, anybody at the White House?
Well, I've been waiting until I had all the information complete from the FOIA process so I could literally go in and lay it all on the table from the beginning to the end.
And I'm quite close to doing that now.
I actually have signed documents from three different branches of the administration basically saying that the Tabliki Jamat initiative that I worked on that was related to San Bernardino and Orlando never existed.
Well, I got to tell you, you know, one of the things I've always said about you, Philip Payne, and I mean this in the most complimentary way possible, you're so smart it scares me.
You know, you know where all those bodies are buried, and, you know, the fact that you are ordered to not only redact, but literally erase information that the Department of Homeland Security had accumulated over the years about people with ties to radical Islamists is beyond any understanding or comprehension I have.
Well, nothing they do surprises me because those are the same people that investigated me when I was under active duty.
Right now, the summary, the way to summarize it is there are valves that need to be closed, valves that are open that need to be closed.
Those are called leaks.
And there are valves that are closed that need to be open, and that's draining this swamp.
I'd like to help with colleagues like mine across the country, Mr. Trump, either close valves that need to be closed or open valves that need to be opened.
And then we really can drain this swamp.
Yeah, listen, I find it amazing that you paid a price for doing your job and for telling the truth about something that put the American people in danger.
Captain Roger Hill, let me bring you into this.
As it relates to the rules of engagement, there was an article that came out.
Republican lawmakers now are actually out there defending the president from criticism about, quote, you know, this never happened in the Obama years.
With all the drone strikes he made, there's never any talk about civilian casualties.
No talk about collateral damage.
No talk about the rules of engagement that basically, unless a terrorist fires at you first, you can't hit them.
And here, Donald Trump has two strikes, and now all of a sudden human rights groups all over the world are speaking out.
It's such hypocrisy.
But what is it really like?
What was it really like under Obama for our troops to actually engage the enemy?
Well, as illustrated in the book, Dog Company, we had to beg for artillery support and close air support at different times.
I mean, we would literally be pinned down by the enemy in some of these very difficult, very complex areas of terrain, one way in, one way out type situations.
And the only way to sort of get us out of a tough spot would be to have artillery.
And sometimes that artillery needed to be aimed at buildings where insurgents or terrorists or enemy fighters were shooting at you from in order to make that threat go away.
But we would be denied time and time again.
So in other words, did Americans that you know die because of Obama's rules of engagement?
Not directly in my group in that case.
But yeah, certainly.
I mean, there are certainly cases that have been well documented where a lack of support or a reluctance to provide support in a timely fashion have led to the death and certainly maiming of U.S. service members overseas.
Yeah, that's pretty scary.
What should the rules of engagement be?
I mean, look, I mean, I think America is a compassionate, loving country that respects human rights.
But also, we've got to understand in war, as horrible as it is, there are going to be, there's going to be collateral damage.
I wish it were not the case, but I also wish that evil didn't exist.
I wish ISIS, al-Qaeda didn't exist.
In the past, I wish Stalin never killed all those millions of people in Russia or the Holocaust under Adolf Hitler or fascism or the killing fields in Cambodia.
I wish all those things never happened.
I wish 9-11 never happened.
But that's not the truth or the reality of life in this world as we know it, is it?
Yeah, no, this is actually very simple.
So we've been trying to apply a rule of law construct over in Afghanistan, which is basically a fifth or a sixth world country.
No semblance of government, really, no semblance of a police state, no semblance of a judiciary system.
But we're trying to enforce a framework that we're used to living amongst here in our country in the U.S. That's a complete, I mean, that's just such a stretch, it's not even realistic, right?
So we need to go back to what we used to do before this global war on terror and before the last eight or ten years, which is to apply the laws of warfare, which allows commanders to execute their mission according to the realities on the ground.
And the other thing that's really important here that people need to realize is that these rules of engagement, they can be applied in different ways, but at the end of the day, it's the people who send us into these complex environments where we know there's going to be collateral damage that have to step up in place of our men and women in uniform and say, listen, you're not going to hang our troops out to dry.
If you want to point a finger at anybody, you can point them at me, Mr. Politician or me, Mr. Congressman or Senator, because I'm the one that was a part of the political process that put them in that situation to begin with.
And the reality is, as Philip just alluded to, is we've got a swamp full of people who lack courage, and they need to move on because those people, because they lack courage, are assisting and aiding the enemy in a way that's getting our people killed.
Yeah, so actually this goes hand in hand, right, Philip?
I mean, you know, if we have the right intelligence, if we have the right database, if we rebuild that which was destroyed under Obama, and we give our troops that are putting their lives in harm's way for us the ability to fight an enemy the way it needs to be fought and they make the decision on the ground and not from, you know, some bunker in Virginia or Washington, then I think that we could have true success and minimize American casualties.
It's exactly the same.
It's remarkable how similar our stories are.
Captain Hill operated in one arena in the military.
I worked in another arena, essentially in intelligence.
And every time we got on the phone and said, we need backup, we're looking at we're being directly attacked by the enemy, or we're literally looking at somebody that intends to attack us down the road.
We have the indicators.
We're taking fire, back us up.
And instead of backing us up, in my case, they deleted the information out of the system to make it impossible for my own colleagues to be able to see the same thing.
If this is going to compromise you, this next question, in any way, don't answer it because I think too much of you.
Do you know anybody that absolutely backed up this information?
Do I know anybody that backed up the information?
Congress has it.
Congress has it all.
Are there specific members that we can talk to about it?
Yes.
Do you want to share the names with me?
No, not on public radio.
Not on public radio.
But you know what?
If you could share it privately, I think there's a way to get it in the hands of the president.
And the next time I interview him, I'll hand it to him myself.
Well, that's my intention, friend.
You've known me for a while now.
And my story has been the same.
I've been very consistent.
I'm not vindictive.
I'm not doing this because I'm trying to get my own self-fulfillment.
I'm concerned about the country, just like Captain Hill.
He took a vow.
We both found ourselves in an arena.
We did our utmost to help to do our job and help protect our country from threat, both foreign and domestic.
And now we're telling our story, which is very similar in a lot of ways.
And what we're looking for is not to go back, but to go forward and help protect our country.
We can do it if we're allowed to do it.
Captain Hill, there's a story that broke earlier today by our friend Sarah Carter about an Air Force captain speaking out saying the Pentagon actually lied to the families about what caused the extortion 17 tragedy.
And you have a decorated, retired Air Force officer who witnessed one of the most deadly attacks on Navy SEALs in U.S. history, breaking his silence, saying that the government covered up evidence detailing that the 2011 downing of that Chinook helicopter gunship that killed 38 fighters in Afghanistan could have been prevented had it not been for restrictions to the military rules of engagement that were changed under Obama.
Did you hear that?
I did.
You're talking about Air Force Captain Joni Marquez, who's a hero in her own right for speaking up and bringing truth to the Americans.
By the way, Karen Vaughan has been on this program.
Her son was a Navy SEAL, died on Extortion 7.
Yeah, that is a tragic story in every sense of the word.
So just for your audience, basically Extortion 17 was carrying a good number of Special Operations warriors on it.
The Air Force platform that was on the scene at the time saw two enemy fighters crawling away from an engagement and requested to fire upon those enemy fighters and were denied.
Those two enemy fighters left the objective, went and gathered more fighters, came back with a dozen more, and it was that dozen fighters that led to the shooting down of Extortion 17.
So textbook, you know, overly restrictive, overly cumbersome rules of engagement leading to the death of American soldiers on the ground in Afghanistan.
Unbelievable.
I mean, and this happens again and again.
All right, last question, Philip Haney, for you is if you could get the ear of the president, what would be the top three things you'd tell him?
Mr. President, we can help you during the swamp.
We can help you close valves that are open, and we can help you open valves that are closed.
We can restore the information, and let us help our colleagues in both the military and law enforcement do their job, and they will.
You will be surprised how fast we could help turn things around if we're just given the opportunity to do it.
Captain Hill, what would you say to him?
You're a top three.
Yeah, I think the best deterrent in the world is to show strength.
And I think we're starting to do that.
And I'm really proud of that fact.
The other would be when we send our men and women overseas to fight in our behalf, we have a responsibility to back them.
And the third would be, we need to be fighting under the laws of warfare and not the rule of law, which is just insane.
It's easy to see why if you do any research into the subject.
Thank you.
All right, unbelievable.
Thank you both for being with us.
Philip Haney, founding member of the Department of Homeland Security, and his book, See Something, Say Nothing, Captain Roger Hill, Dog Company, The True Story of American Soldiers Abandoned by Their Higher Command.
We'll put both those books on Hannity.com.
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