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April 11, 2017 - Sean Hannity Show
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If you want to be a part of the program, we have a lot of insanity being put out there in the aftermath of the Syrian attack by President Trump.
I'm getting some of the backstory of this, which is pretty interesting because remember, he's meeting with the Premier of China at the time, and the president had launched the missile Strike, and it was during a dinner that the president had to tell the premier what had happened, and apparently he agreed with it and said, Well, you launch chemical weapons against men, women, and children.
Well, that's a good reason to hit them back.
You know what's amazing in all this?
We'll get to where we are with threats.
We also have other issues we're getting to.
What's the latest on healthcare?
Neil Gorsuch is now.
We're back to nine on the Supreme Court, thank goodness.
A lot of palace White House intrigue going on, we'll talk about.
And also, getting back into our story about surveillance and unmasking and leaking of intelligence with Susan Rice and what a liar she is and how she seems to get away with it, whether it be about Bo Bergdahl having served with honor and distinction, that was a lie, or what happened in Benghazi was a lie.
And I don't know anything about surveillance, unmasking.
That was a lie.
And then she admits she did know about it because she knew she was going to get caught.
So she goes on and does this fluffy, friendly interview with Andrea Mitchell, where basically it looked like it was a stage play for crying out loud.
It was so coordinated together.
I will say this about the media.
I mean, they're just so over the top, and this zealousness is beyond now conspiracy theory thinking out there.
If there's a right-wing conspiracy, you know, is now apparently so big according to NBC, so huge according to NBC that it now includes Vladimir Putin, who, according to one MSNBC host, conspired with President Trump to launch the cruise missile attack in Syria last Thursday night.
Probably cue the Twilight Zone music because you have, they're opening their show by claiming that if Vladimir Putin masterminded the last week in Syria, he's gotten everything he could have asked for.
You got?
These are NBC hosts saying this, arguing that it's conceivable that Putin could have told Pasharella Assad to carry out a small chemical weapons attack, just big enough to attract media attention so that my friend in the White House will see it on TV.
And then Trump can fire 59 cruise missiles or Tomahawk missiles and do real damage to ensure that the U.S. Media will change the subject from the Russian influence conspiracy that they've been talking about without any evidence for eight months, saying that it changes conventional wisdom about the dynamic between Trump and Russia.
Do you know how sick these people are?
They're absolutely, this is cable news conspiracy TV.
It's insane.
Anyway, so, you know, the latest is the following.
It's not, it's pretty much predictable.
I mean, you've got this Damascus, Tehran, Moscow coalition emerging.
Then you've got the saber-rattling that seems almost non-stop out of North Korea.
You know, the Russians, on the one hand, are saying they'll respond to any future aggression by the U.S.
Well, they had the opportunity to respond last Thursday.
They didn't do it.
And they can go out there and say that we're one step from war.
Why?
Because they're going to support Syrian President Assad and his use of chemical weapons against children.
You know, it's funny because I had a lot of discussions with my friends this weekend, and frankly, they're evenly divided about whether it was the right thing to do.
Now, the polls show about 57% of the American people agree with President Trump.
To me, when you, look, look, I wish we lived in a world that didn't have evil.
I wish we lived in a world where what happened on Palm Sunday in Egypt didn't happen.
And ISIS claiming credit for the suicide bomb attack on a Christian church there.
We'll get into that later with David Limbaugh on the program today.
I wish Nazi Germany never happened.
I wish fascism never existed.
Nazism never existed.
Communism, you know, under Stalin and company, you know, didn't kill 30 million people.
I wish there was no such thing as the killing fields in Cambodia.
I wish there was no such thing as rape and murder and horrific crimes against humanity.
I've used this statistic many, many times.
I wrote a whole book investigated human atrocities and evil that exist in the world.
I wish there wasn't, but there is 100 million souls in the last century alone killed, murdered, slaughtered in the name of power and control, in the name of brutality, and just that is evil.
You know, you rape a child, you rape a woman, all of this is evil.
What do you think murder is?
You think murder is good?
Murder is not good if you're killing somebody that's innocent that maybe you don't like for whatever reason you think you're justified in your twisted thinking.
You know, and there are certain choices that we as a country are going to have to make.
Now, I totally agree, A, America can't be the world's police force.
B, we can't involve ourselves in every conflict.
In the case of Syria, it's a seven-year civil war.
C, I'd rather America just be able to close up our borders.
There's a certain appeal to this.
It's called isolationism, where we just cordon off ourselves from the rest of the world and ignore evil that takes place around the world.
And a lot of my friends actually were sick and tired of it.
Look, we can't certainly do also what we've done in Vietnam.
You can't go start a fight, not win it, lose 58,000 Americans, and then say, never mind, let's come home, which is the exact thing that Obama did in Iraq.
I mean, we watched American soldiers fight, bleed, and die in Iraq and Afghanistan, a conflict I supported, only to end up with 5,000 dead Americans, many thousands more injured, severe injuries, deformities, lost legs, limbs, arms, et cetera, blown to smithereens, and then say, never mind.
That's when you politicize war.
If America doesn't have the stomach to see a conflict through, we should never go into a conflict.
Now, that doesn't mean we can't use military power.
Here's the question, though, that I think needs to be asked in a question as a nation.
What kind of nation do we want to be?
Do we want to be a nation that can watch images of children that were gassed with chemical weapons, a horrifically painful death?
Are we going to be able to see those images, watch those images, and do nothing because they're not our kids, not our country.
We're not getting involved in that.
Or do you think we should at least attempt to stop some of the evil?
You can't stop it all.
You're not going to stop the civil war.
We're not going to send American troops into Syria banging on doors like we did in Baghdad, Mosul, and Ramadi and Fallusha and Decrete, all cities we lost after the early pullout of Obama, Which was a stupid thing to do.
And if I lost my son or daughter fighting in that conflict and the battle for Mosul or the battle for Ramadi or the battle for Baghdad, only to see ISIS fill the vacuum that Obama left, I'd be pissed.
I'd be beyond angry.
So if America's going to politicize wars, we certainly can't send brave men and women in harm's way that way.
But, and we can't be the world's policeman, I agree.
But there are times I think America, as blessed as we are, has a moral obligation that if you see the murder of innocents in a conflict like this, the direct targeting of women and children with chemical weapons, I kind of like the idea of America saying to bullies, no, no, we're not, you can do this and that.
It's horrible.
We can't stop you.
We're not going to fix your problems, but you're not going to cross that line.
That's the red line.
And that's what Donald Trump decided.
I don't think it's any more complicated than that.
Donald Trump doesn't want to send troops in.
He doesn't want to be an occupying force in Syria, and nor do I.
But I also doubt that Assad is going to be using chemical weapons against innocent people again.
And especially after we were assured by Obama and Susan Rice and John Kerry repeatedly that, and I'll play it later in the program, that repeatedly they said, he rode the red line in the sand and it resulted in Assad giving up chemical weapons.
It's unprecedented.
It has never happened before.
Well, he didn't give up his chemical weapons because he just used them again.
And I get it, by the way.
So if you're saying, look, it's not our business, I get it.
I totally understand it.
You know, maybe there's, you know, I guess there's different ways of looking at these things in life.
I mean, I know that there are a lot of people.
How many times have we heard of instances?
By the way, there's a show going on in here.
Hello.
Yeah, we're doing a show in here.
Yeah, I know you guys are having your private little talk show in there.
There are times in life you might be faced with a decision where you have to put your life in harm's way.
You know, what do you do if you're a man and you see a woman being beaten up and brutalized by men in a street or being raped in the street?
Now, you could call the cops and stay out of it.
By the time the cops get there, the damage they have done is probably going to be complete.
If you're a man and you see another man beating up a woman, do you not feel any compunction or moral clarity that maybe you should walk over and say, excuse me?
Hello?
Can I help you?
Get your hands off that woman or you're dealing with me.
Now, maybe, you know, look, I know these guys in cable think, Hannity thinks he's a tough guy.
He does mixed martial arts and he believes in the right to keep him bare arms.
Well, what's the alternative?
Is that I turn my back and I walk away and I don't do anything to help and assist a human being in trouble that might die or is getting raped before my eyes?
I can't do that.
That's not me.
That's not how I roll.
That's not what I'm made of.
And if I walked away and turned my head to evil in front of my very eyes, how do I sleep at night?
How do you sleep at night?
Now, Donald Trump can't solve the Syrian problem.
Donald Trump can't send troops in there either.
We're too busy.
We've got our own problems.
But sending a message that this is a line you can't cross.
Now, you would say, well, what if he just bombed innocent civilians?
It probably would be the same thing.
But a chemical weapons attack, weapons of mass destruction like this, if there's not a message sent, well, there's tacit approval that goes along with that.
And maybe some of you think that that shouldn't be America's role in the world.
Well, maybe some of you think that it doesn't matter that your neighbor's getting the crap beat out of her by a former football player that's twice her size.
Well, you know, I just maybe some of you can walk past that.
I couldn't.
I just couldn't.
I doubt Linda could either.
It's probably tougher than all of us combined.
I don't think Jason ever would either.
I think Sunshine better walk past because there's not much she can do.
I mean, no problem.
I think you should just use your phone and call somebody really fast.
But I bet you would be compelled to help.
Seeing dead children gassed with chemical weapons, an evil, horrific death crosses a line.
No, we can't invade.
No, we can't occupy.
No, we can't solve all the problems.
But maybe we can stop this level of evil.
And I think that's what the president was trying to do.
And that's why I think it's the right thing.
Now, some of my friends say no.
Anyway, we'll get to that today.
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A lot of look, I have no idea what is going on inside the White House.
I know that every alt-left propaganda, Destroy Trump media group is out there.
Bannon's in, Bannon's out.
Reince is in, Reines is out.
Kellyanne's in, Kellyanne's out.
Steve Miller's in, Steve.
I mean, I'm just, I don't, Ivanka, Jared, and this.
And I don't know what's going on in there, and it doesn't matter to me in this sense.
It's the president keeping his promises that matters.
It's the president, you know, Neil Gorsuch is now, no thanks to any of you never Trumpers out there.
He is now, we now have a full Supreme Court once again, nine sitting Supreme Court justices, and on paper, he seemed like a great guy to replace Scalia and needed desperately, especially because of all the 5-4 decisions.
Now, I know that this is a media obsession, focusing, fixating who's up, who's down, who's staying, who's going.
I don't care.
There's been talk about, you know, a New York more liberal group trying to pull the president to the middle of the left, Steve Bannon, and others trying to get him to stay on his conservative message.
Here's what I know about the president that I can speak from personal experience.
Donald Trump is his own guy.
Donald Trump makes his own decisions.
Now, we all know what his promises are.
We can all recite them because especially if you've been following it like we have, you know where he is on vetting refugees, building the wall.
You know where he is on his economic plan, seven brackets to three, 15% corporate rate, as low as he can possibly get it, 10% repatriation, health care.
He wants to get a trillion dollars out of health care, portability, buying across state lines, free market, health care, savings accounts.
Those are all part of his agenda.
We know that he did everything he could do to make energy flow again in this country, the Dakota pipeline, the Keystone pipeline.
He's put in place everything to get his plans moving.
Everything.
Now, I'm sure that the president, especially like what happened on Thursday night, he consulted with Mad Dog Mattis and everybody else, but he makes the decisions.
Do you know how many people I know that have been around him, including myself at one point, said, you need to stop tweeting?
And guess what?
He made his own decision.
And you know what?
In retrospect, I'm glad he tweets.
I really am, because he gets to say, those people back there, they're all liars.
They're all liars.
Phony news, fake news.
So I don't really know who's going to be up or down, but my take is I don't think anybody's going to deter this president from that agenda because unlike any other president I've seen, he's keeping his list and checking it twice.
We'll continue.
All right, 25 now till the top of the hour, 800-941.
Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, why are you handing me this article?
My marriage sabbatical saved my relationship.
Why are you sending me?
It's in the Daily News?
No, it's the New York Post.
Oh.
So why My Marriage Sabbatical?
What did you find some great intrigue in?
I just thought it was a riot because, you know, we have a 52% divorce rate in America.
And this girl did this, you know, this experiment with her marriage.
And she was sent to work and she had to go abroad for work.
And in the eight months that she was abroad, she did not contact her husband.
She did not talk to her husband.
She didn't talk to him.
And now they're back together and stronger than ever.
And she dated other people, I'm guessing.
No, the article states that there was none of that.
If there was, I don't know.
It's none of my business.
So she says she didn't.
No funny business.
There's no funny business.
You know, she was there for a while.
She says no funny business.
And she never talked to her husband the whole eight months.
It says that they didn't talk that much.
She wasn't deeply in love with the guy.
She said she loved him with every cell of her being.
However.
She didn't want to talk to him for eight months.
Wait, hold on.
She said she loved him with every cell of her being, but she was not in love with him.
And I think a lot of people suffer from that.
That makes zero sense.
It makes total sense.
It makes no sense.
First of all, how many years you married?
22?
More.
Four.
How long?
A long time.
A long time.
Exactly.
So long you can't.
I don't know exactly.
So my point is that when you're married that long, your marriage goes through, you know, peaks and valleys.
So you take an eight-month sabbatical.
I just talk about, I'm in love, but I don't want to talk to you because you annoy the crap out of me.
First of all, she said she wasn't in love.
She said that she still loved him, but that she was not in love anymore.
Okay.
Now, this word parsing, you sound like Clinton and Obama and Susan Rice combined.
See, no, those are divorce words.
I wouldn't take a sabbatical if someone said that.
I would just divorce them.
Okay.
So why are they divorce words?
What is that?
You're comparing me to Obama and Clinton.
That's it.
We're done.
Divorce.
Sayonara.
That's like using.
There are certain words that men should never, ever, ever use with a woman, period.
Such as.
Exactly.
They start with every letter of the alphabet.
Just go right on down the list.
And men are stupid.
You do that, and you now have cut that person deeply.
And if your temper is such that you can't control your words, I mean, that's pretty bad.
But I just thought it was a good idea and less expensive than a divorce lawyer.
Take a little sabbatical.
I just don't buy this BS.
Oh, I love him, but I'm not in love with him.
I'm like, go stop it.
That is totally normal.
It's not totally normal.
This is why everyone gets divorced.
You think too much.
You can't be passionately in love all the time.
Sometimes you just love the person, and other times you're in love with them.
And other times you hate the person.
Exactly.
And that's normal.
All right, but 50% of marriages still fail.
Right.
So it's cheaper to keep her can have another option here.
And you can cheaper to keep her.
I've never heard that expression.
Never heard that.
Divorce is very expensive.
Well, you know, you know what?
Many people say cheaper to keep her.
Well, Trump has always said get a prenup.
Always.
And I don't think if you like him and you have a lot of money, it's probably a smart thing to do.
Well, just in case you forgot, maybe a sabbatical is another option.
You know, but if you have a prenup, I mean, the bottom line is at least you don't have to worry about those issues if God forbid something goes wrong.
Right, but when you're passionately in love, you're not thinking about this potential breakup.
You're thinking about forever.
Okay, that means you're not thinking, period.
No, it means you're in love.
No, it means you're not thinking, and that's part of the problem.
I'm not against it.
I think it's fine.
Oh, I'm not against it either.
For example, let's say you're marrying a person that's really wealthy and they want to protect their assets if God forbid something goes wrong and you say no, well, you're marrying that person only for the money, or is that telling you, well, our marriage should be stronger than a legal document?
I totally agree with you.
I think prenups are totally fine, and I think that it's a very smart and pragmatic way to enter a marriage when there's a lot of money involved.
Yeah, and then this way, okay, fine.
We know how that ends if God forbid.
God forbid it comes down that road.
Now we know.
It's the same thing.
Are we talking about this because Ethan just got married a week ago?
No, I just saw the article.
I thought it was hysterical.
Well, you're distracting me from my shot argument.
Which is a levity.
You know, we continue with death and destruction.
Now we'll go back to the evil that exists in the world and chemical weapons used against children.
By the way, the president spent part of his day yesterday personally thanking the naval commanders who carried out the orders to launch this attack on Syria, which, you know what, it shows great does have great respect for the military.
And he called to thank those commanding officers, Commander Russell Caldwell, Commander Andrea Slov, along with their crews for their professionalism and quick response in launching these cruise missiles.
Apparently, 59 out of the launch 60 missiles hit their targets, 59.
And this is 600 miles away.
And remember, they're 18 feet long and two feet wide and have 1,000 pounds of munitions in each and every tomahawk missile, which is a pretty amazing accomplishment.
And they do this just as a matter of course.
Now, there was a grave danger there because if, in fact, they actually hit where these chemical weapons were stored, that wouldn't have been good, obviously, either, because that means, okay, all those chemical weapons are dispersed in the air.
And with pinpoint accuracy, I think one of them went into the sea, but 600 miles?
And it flies at a low altitude.
I don't know if you've actually, we did a whole thing on this Friday night on Hannity on TV.
It's 18 feet long, one, one Tomahawk missile, two feet wide, 1,000 pounds of munitions, and 59 of the 60 of them hit their precise target perfectly, which is amazing.
So the commander-in-chief got in touch with them.
We have a CBS news poll.
Ted Cobble, this is nightlight.
Anyway, landslide, majority of American people support the attack.
That doesn't surprise me.
Only 18% would want ground troops.
Nobody wants ground troops.
You cannot start wars anymore after we've now politicized two wars and we send people to fight, bleed, die, and leave their limbs on the battlefield only to have some idiot like Obama become president and pull out all their sacrifice.
I'm sorry, that is unconscionable.
What do we say to the mothers and fathers of those 5,000 Americans killed?
And what do we say to the soldiers that don't have arms and legs now that, oh, yeah, you fought for Mosul and Ramadi and Fallucia and the Creed and Baghdad, but we just gave it to ISIS.
How do you justify sending them to politicize it because of these morons that are in Washington?
It's unbelievable to me.
Rex Tillerson says the Chinese president, when he was meeting at Mar-a-Lago late last week with the president, that the president agrees with the Trump administration that some kind of action has to be taken to stop North Korea from threatening the rest of the world with nuclear weapons.
That's interesting.
That's an interesting development.
One of the things I've been reading about all weekend is the idea that you could nuclear arm South Korea.
The Secretary of State Tillerson also said that there's no evidence of Russian involvement in the Syrian chemical attack.
But remember, Obama, John Kerry, and Susan Rice all told you, the American people, the only one that didn't say it, he said it definitively, then he backed off a little.
Well, if we got rid of 90, 95% of the chemical weapons.
But Kerry and Susan Rice said it repeatedly and definitively that Bashar al-Assad had no chemical weapons left.
Listen.
I think it was important for me as President of the United States to send a message that, in fact, there is something different about chemical weapons.
And regardless of how it ended up playing, I think, in the Beltway, what is true is Assad got rid of his chemical weapons.
And the reason he got rid of them is 90% or 95% of those chemical stockpiles were eliminated.
That's a lot of chemical weapons that are not right now in the hands of ISIL or NASA or, for that matter, the regime.
The president made his decision to strike.
He announced his decision to strike publicly.
And the purpose of the strike was to get the chemical weapons out of Syria.
That's the purpose.
We achieved a deal with the Russians that didn't wind up in two days of strikes that would have sent a, quote, message, but would not have removed the weapons.
We struck a deal to get all of the declared weapons out of Syria.
Never before in a conflict has that ever happened.
It didn't happen this time either.
Weapons of mass destruction are taken out of the zone of conflict.
They weren't taken out.
Thank God we did that.
Because if we hadn't done that today, you didn't do it.
You have no idea what I see.
We were able to find a solution that actually removed the chemical weapons that were known from Syria in a way that the use of force would never have accomplished.
You know what they're doing?
They're justifying rationalizing Obama's timidity and weakness because Obama was timid.
He drew a red line and he backed off like a little scaredy cat that he is.
All talk, no action.
Trump doesn't draw a red line, says this is beyond a red line.
Two days later, 59 Tomahawk missiles landed right at the airport where those missiles were launched from, where the chemical weapons took off and were eventually dumped on children.
By the way, what is wrong with John McCain?
I cannot for the life of me figure out what's in this guy's mind anymore.
So him and Lindsey Graham want to portray themselves as the biggest hawks in America.
And John McCain, the president goes forward and does the job in Syria, and McCain is still not happy.
And here it is, he complained yesterday after declaring the Trump administration is partially to blame for the fact that Assad used chemical weapons in the first place.
I think it probably was partially to blame the fact that they contributed to the use of this, and Secretary Tillerson basically saying the same thing after kind of contradicting himself, then saying the same thing, argues vigorously for a plan and a strategy.
What does John McCain want?
And who's going to become a Democrat first, Lindsey or McCain?
Or maybe they'll do it hand in hand together, considering they're such close, good friends, those two.
They're such good buddies.
Lindsey Graham was urging Trump to shoot down Russian warplanes in Syria.
I'm like, hello?
What do you want?
You want every American, you want to start another war so we could have another 5,000 dead Americans?
Should we start a Hannity poll?
Who's going to become a Democrat first?
I don't know.
Well, go ahead, start it.
You know, he says he's never been more encouraged by President Trump's leadership than after Thursday night.
He's so encouraged that he now wants Trump to consider shooting Russian warplanes out of the sky if they interfere with any U.S.-backed effort to topple Assad.
Have we not learned anything that America does not have the political will in Washington to see through any military conflict?
Do we really want to watch American soldiers in non-up armored Humvee vehicles getting their legs blown off with IEDs and fighting a war until eventually, politically, it becomes unsustainable for the Democratic Party, and we end up pulling out just like we did in Iraq.
If you're going to fight a war, win it.
If you're going to fight a war, win it and win it quickly.
Oh, Hannity, that means that innocent men, women, and children will die.
There'll be collateral damage.
Yeah, that's what it means.
And if the choice is Americans die versus other people, I choose Americans to live.
And if that makes me a heartless, mean, miserable SOB, then so be it.
Now, you might say, Hannity, but you supported what President Trump did.
I did, because I don't like seeing dead kids killed by chemical weapons.
So I know we can't be the world's policemen.
I know we're not going to go occupy.
We're not going to be an occupying force.
I know we don't want to escalate a seven-year civil war, nor can we fix it.
But we can send the message that that's a line we shouldn't cross.
By the way, Hillary is now saying one of the reasons she lost is Vladimir Putin is sexist.
I'm not kidding.
Did you see the list of excuses she made at that leadership forum?
What are you sending me here?
Who are all these people in there?
I feel like a monkey in a cage here.
You know, I'm like, you know, these are friends of John McLaughlin, and any friend of John's is a friend of mine.
Well, I like John McLaughlin.
All right, you can stay.
Oh, get this.
Now, I thought I vetted Obama better than anybody.
This was in the Daily Mail.
Now, we had eight years of Obama.
I wonder how the American people would have voted if they'd known that he thought that most of them were unabashed, unrepentant racists.
We'll never know because as much vetting as I did while everybody in the media was fat and lazy and obviously biased, UK Mail points out that Obama once called America a racist society.
Unpublished manuscript from his law school days.
A little late for them to come out with it now.
The biographer David Garrow says he uncovered a number of significant revelations about the president in his upcoming book on Obama's life that's going to come out next month.
And he said that there are hundreds of pages.
But anyway, racism against African Americans continues to exist throughout American society.
It admittedly racist culture.
Obama right.
We vetted black liberation theology.
White folks' greed runs a world in need.
It is this world, a world where cruise ships throw away more food in a day than most residents of Port-au-Prince see in a year.
Where white folks' greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere.
That's the world on which hope sits.
All right, there we go.
See, I did vet that.
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He joins us now with our top stories today.
Obviously, the fallout from the 59 Tomahawk missiles that were fired into Syria and the airbase where they launched this chemical attack against men, women, and children.
And, of course, we're also watching the President Eil Gorsis, now a Supreme Court justice, was sworn in earlier this morning on top of all the other issues of the day, including what's the latest on health care.
We had 49 Christians murdered on Palm Sunday in an Egyptian church.
And what is the status of the president's economic plan and whatever infighting may or may not be going on there?
Anyway, joining us now, former Speaker of the House, New Kingrich, how are you, sir?
I'm doing well.
And you sort of captured how dynamic Donald Trump's Washington is.
Just imagine that here we have the swearing in of the new conservative Supreme Court justice, exactly as Trump promised during the campaign.
And in many ways, he's overshadowed by all the other things that are going on.
It's just, you know, the remarkable number of things.
And that's sort of the Trump model, to be out there and be extraordinarily active and try to change many things simultaneously.
A lot of people referred to a tweet that he had put out when there was talk that Obama might go after Syria.
And the president, I thought, showed a very different side of him both when he announced what had happened and when he was with King Abdullah of Jordan and news of these chemical attacks and questions about it arose at that press conference.
And, you know, no child of God should suffer that horror.
And I thought that was a little unpredictable from him, considering he ran pretty much on a non-interventionist platform.
But I also believe that anybody that sees chemical weapons being used against men, women, and children, if the United States doesn't have any sense of moral right and wrong there to stop it, or at least try and stop it, then we would be supporting a modern-day Holocaust unfolding before our eyes.
So to me, it was the right thing to do.
Well, look, I think a couple of things have shifted.
The first is the responsibility.
I think Trump's beginning to realize from all of his talks with leaders around the world that the United States really is a unique country and that all of these countries are saying to him, look, we look to you guys to lead.
You know, but Barack Obama spent eight years, quote, leading from behind, and it doesn't work.
And so I think he's begun to realize the weight of responsibility that the United States has is so different from any other country.
Second, we had been told by the Russians and told by the Syrians that there were no chemical weapons there.
They obviously had lied.
And Secretary Tillerson has been very tough about that and said, look, either the Russians were colluding with the Syrians or the Russians were so incompetent they were duped by the Syrians.
But there's not a third answer here.
And it'll be interesting to see what his conversations are like in Moscow.
And then third, imagine you were sitting there.
You are President Donald J. Trump.
You have decried Barack Obama's weaknesses.
And now you're faced with almost exactly the situation where Barack Obama flinched and did nothing.
And I think had Trump done nothing, right now people would be comparing him to Obama.
In fact, what he did, and I just did my newsletter today at the English Productions List, what he did was very parallel to what Ronald Reagan did in Libya in 1981 when he picked a very targeted, selective way of showing that the U.S. was back, that we had muscle, and that you had better be careful around us.
And I think that's the signal he sent.
And I thought it was done very, very well.
All right.
Let me play for you because not only did the Russians and Assad say they got rid of their chemical weapons, you know, the president at the time, Obama and John Kerry, the Secretary of State, and Susan Rice, the National Security Advisor, all said that, well, Obama drawing the red line in the sand proves that that's the reason they got rid of all their chemical weapons.
They assured us that had happened.
I'm asking you this question through the prism of they're wrong here, they lied then, and they had the wrong result.
What if they're wrong on Iran?
Here's what they said.
I think it was important for me as President of the United States to send a message that, in fact, there is something different about chemical weapons.
And regardless of how it ended up playing, I think in the Beltway, what is true is Assad got rid of his chemical weapons.
And the reason he got rid of them is well, look, if 90% or 95% of those chemical stockpiles were eliminated, that's a lot of chemical weapons that are not right now in the hands of ISIL or NARA or, for that matter, the regime.
The president made his decision to strike.
He announced his decision to strike publicly.
And the purpose of the strike was to get the chemical weapons out of Syria.
That's the purpose.
We achieved a deal with the Russians that didn't wind up in two days of strikes that would have sent a, quote, message, but would not have removed the weapons.
We struck a deal to get all of the declared weapons out of Syria.
Never before in a conflict has that ever happened.
That during a conflict, weapons of mass destruction are taken out of the zone of conflict.
And thank God we did that, because if we hadn't done that today, ISIL would have those chemical weapons in large parts of the country.
Because in the meantime, we were able to find a solution that actually removed the chemical weapons that were known from Syria in a way that the use of force would never have accomplished.
Okay, so they were wrong, and then they...
You know, what's fascinating, though, is did they even know they were wrong?
I mean, that is, were they lying or were they just leading such a self-deluding fantasy life that they believed something which was just factually, totally untrue?
You'll notice, by the way, that the guys who give out the Pinocchios just changed that.
They went back retroactively a year later and changed their analysis of John Kerry's statement to give him four Pinocchios.
I'd like to know who checks the fact checkers half the time because the things they write about you and I are not true a lot of times.
But here's where we are.
We've got Iran and Russia now threatening that they're going to respond to any future action.
You've got Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.
He's the guy.
Tell Vladimir.
Tell Vladimir that I'll have a lot more flexibility after the election.
That guy.
Anyway, he's come out and said, denounce Donald Trump, and officials said it was retaliation for Assad's use of weapons.
But, you know, why were we told one thing and another thing happened?
And the Russians were supposed to be part of the effort to get rid of those weapons and they didn't do their job.
And so Donald Trump sent a message.
We're not going to tolerate the use of chemical weapons against men, women, and children.
So if you're Donald Trump, how do you respond to the threats that Russia says if we do it again, they're going to come after us or the Syrians will come after us?
Well, I think that's where Tillerson's visit will be very interesting.
Secretary Tillerson, as you know, as the former head of ExxonMobil, one of the, I think, the fifth or sixth biggest company in the world, he's a very tough guy.
He's made very tough decisions over the years.
He's made multi-billion dollar decisions.
And I think that, you know, you have Secretary Mattis, who's a four-star Marine, Secretary Kelly, who's a four-star Marine.
You've got H.R. McMaster, who's a three-star Army officer.
These guys have all been in wars.
So I don't think any of them are exactly very easy to shake.
And I'm told that when they were down at Mar-a-Largo, this was all just daily work.
This wasn't like, oh, my God, we're going to go hit, you know, you can imagine how Obama and that gang would have been had they been doing this.
But these guys were all just kind of going, okay, well, I guess you've got to go do it.
I'll talk to you later.
And they were comfortable.
So my hunch is in private, and again, I don't want to prejudge this, but my hunch is in private, Tillerson is going to say something like this.
We have dramatically more forces available than you do.
You can't possibly project power into the Eastern Mediterranean against us.
We do not want to humiliate you, but we aren't backing down.
So if you decide to pick a fight, you'll lose all of your assets in Syria, all of your assets in the Eastern Mediterranean, and you will look very, very weak.
Now, if you really need for that to happen, we're prepared to do it.
We don't particularly want to do it, but we're prepared to do it.
If you don't need for that to happen, let's work out some better deal.
I mean, I think it'll be that direct.
I don't think Tillerson's the kind of guy who, you know, hems and haws and dances and bobs and weaves.
I think he's going to be very direct with these guys.
Could you imagine if they're just as wrong on the Iranian deal?
Let me switch to some domestic issues.
You know, Donald Trump has kept a lot of his promises so far.
Look, he hasn't gotten to the point where we're vetting refugees, but he's trying.
The process of building the wall is now moving forward.
They're getting plans to actually build and construct the wall.
The president is getting rid of all these rules and regulations, especially as it relates to the energy sector.
The president is beginning to put his economic plan together, and hopefully that will come sooner than later.
But it seems that the Congress that for eight years that had been saying that they're going to repeal and replace Obamacare were ill-prepared for the moment, and nobody got to see the bill before it was released.
There was no consensus bill, consensus built before it was released.
The president ended up doing all the heavy lifting on the bill.
They had to pull it because they didn't have enough votes and enough consensus to get it passed.
I know work continues on the bill, but there's still a lot of disagreement as to which direction it ought to go and how much, what role government is going to play in taking care of those people that can't afford insurance or have no health care coverage whatsoever.
So the question is, why weren't the Republicans ready for that moment?
Well, I think that they had not realized how complicated it was.
It's pretty easy to say repeal Obamacare.
Then when you start saying, so what's the replacement, it gets really complicated very fast.
I will say that I know for a fact that Mark Meadows and the Freedom Caucus have been working very hard and have reached out to moderate Republicans to see if they can't get sort of a backbencher bill that would actually pass and be able to go back to the president and to speaker Ryan and offer them a success.
And I think if they can do that, it's going to be quite an important historic achievement.
And I'm just personally delighted that they are trying to get that.
Listen, I talked to Mark Meadows a hundred times in the last two weeks, and I know he's trying his heart out there, but why wasn't the leadership in the House?
Why didn't they do that?
Isn't that their job?
Well, it is their job, and I think the correct way would be to say it was a boo-boo.
A boo-boo?
No, that's a boo-boo.
Boo-boo's.
I know you're really sophisticated.
Yeah, I'm just, and I'm just an old country boy from Georgia, but boo-boo.
Boo-boo often captures what happens.
Oh, man.
Listen, I would call it from being from New York, I mean, a major.
Almost altered you, didn't it?
It almost stopped.
Being the New Yorker that I am, that part of me, not the Georgia part of me, when I live there, it would be this is a major blank up.
Screw up.
That would be my way of saying it.
But what do I know?
All right, stay right there.
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All right, as we continue, former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, at the bottom of this half hour, we'll start taking your calls for the speaker.
He's agreed to stick around today.
He apparently has nothing better to do because he just got back from yet another vacation, something I don't know anything about.
I give you such a hard time.
I wish I had your vacation schedule.
I really do.
Oh, look, it's fine.
I had to go give a speech.
It's not my fault.
In Cabo, in Mexico?
Yep.
And then Calista insisted that we take our golf clubs.
And then, you know, what can I tell you?
One thing led to another.
It was okay.
All right.
Now, let me ask you this, because this is very important.
So I'm reading all these stories about, in a consequential week, Donald Trump relies and leans on the Washington establishment he vowed to disrupt.
Trump plans a centrist push and Priebus is on board and all these articles about intrigue and that's going on in the White House.
Look, I don't know what's going inside there because I work here.
When I go there, it's not my area of interest.
I don't really care.
But isn't it really the president's agenda?
And he chooses who's around him.
And if those people don't agree with his agenda, that's their problem, not his problem.
And he's been pretty consistent checking off his checklist of promises he made.
I don't see him changing his agenda regardless of who's around him.
Do you?
No, okay.
You always have to remember that the Washington Press Corps always finds it easier to cover gossip than to cover facts.
So as you point out at the very beginning of our conversation, you have all these different things going on.
You have an aircraft carrier going towards North Korea.
You have all the problems in the Middle East.
You've got the Secretary of State going to Russia.
You have bombings of Coptic Christians in Egypt.
You've got a brand new secretary, a brand new Supreme Court justice being sworn in.
All these different things are going on simultaneously.
But if you're a local Washington reporter and you're lazy, it is so much easier to write gossip.
I mean, the one thing that should be clear to anybody who's watching this is Donald J. Trump started out running for office with virtually no staff, made up his own particular campaign because it's what he believed.
Most of it is stuff he's been saying for 30 years.
He has gradually accumulated a group of people around him, some of whom, I mean, Stephen Miller has been writing his speeches for a year and a half.
And Miller's a totally solid conservative, came off of Jeff Sessions' Senate staff.
I think he's one of the brightest guys, unsung heroes in the administration.
I like him a lot.
Yeah, I mean, that's exactly what he, I think, unsung hero captures exactly what he's been up to.
And you've got a lot of this kind of stuff going on.
These are great people working their hearts out.
And the truth is that whoever happens to be in the White House at any given moment, Donald J. Trump is going to be Donald J. Trump.
And, you know, I don't worry about personnel changes because I worry about the president.
The president's the guy who matters.
And this particular president, I think, has a very clear sense of where he wants to go and what he wants to do.
And I don't think he's going to be deterred.
I don't think he's going to be deterred by anybody.
I mean, that's my point, and that's been my experience with him.
But, I mean, all the palace intrigue articles that I'm hearing daily, now, there are going to be people that come and go, and that happens throughout every administration.
So it wouldn't surprise me if we see a lot of it.
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One last question, and that has to do with Susan Rice.
So a couple of weeks ago, she's on PBS.
I don't know anything about surveillance, about unmasking, about intelligence leaking.
And then, well, it got discovered that she did do that and had to come out and admit it publicly that she was involved in the unmasking of then-candidate Donald Trump, then President-elect Donald Trump and his transition team.
Where should this information now go?
Because it appears to me that using the guise of national security and intelligence, that specific spying was done on the candidate and then president-elect and his transition team.
To me, it's developing into one of the biggest scandals, I think, in our lifetime, well beyond Watergate.
And I think we're going to have to get to the bottom of it because we do know felonies were committed, especially with the release of intelligence, i.e., against General Flynn.
What are your thoughts?
Well, you know, I think 30 people were sentenced out of jail or to suspended jail sentences during Watergate.
Watergate started out being about one break-in to one Democratic campaign office.
That was the essence of it.
Now, if you think of electronic break-ins as being comparable, you may have, I mean, who knows how many counts of breaking in we have and what they have done.
Furthermore, the fact that there are no excuses for the National Security Advisor to get this kind of information.
She has every right to say to the investigative body, please check into this.
And they could come back and say there's a problem, there's not a problem.
There's no reason that she should know any of the names of Americans who have been part of her surveillance project.
And you have to say this is the most, this is the boldest and most dishonest effort to use the power of government that I have seen.
And it's very ironic.
Listen, I've been watching Homeland, which we find fascinating.
I've watched the whole series.
I love it.
Well, they just went off on the deep state and trying to basically stop a president-elect from even taking office.
And you watch that and then you listen to this.
Now, in the case of Susan Rice, I think this is, again, one of these I'm always surprised, but Susan Rice is a liar.
Well, she lied about Bo Bergdahl and said Bo Bergdahl served with honor and distinction.
She lied about Benghazi.
We knew the truth at the time.
Right.
So if somebody comes up and says, gosh, Susan Rice lied on Tuesday, my assumption is she was in an interview.
Right.
I'm not surprised that she's a liar.
I'm not surprised that she's typical of the Obama administration.
These were dishonest people who believe dishonest things.
You and I were talking earlier about the self-deception about the Syrian chemical weapons.
I think there is the same self-deception about Iran.
And my view is I trust nothing that anybody in the Obama administration has ever said because I believe they're congenitally dishonest.
I believe they're congenitally dishonest, too.
A line stolen from William Sapphire, the late William Sapphire of the New York Times, that was used against Hillary Clinton.
Did you read any of these reports that are out there?
And I can't confirm in any way.
I have no idea if it's true or not that I was surveilled and unmasked.
Yes, I have.
And I mean, a number of other people who've been similarly, you know, if you, of course, again, if you were dealing with the Trump campaign, there's a pretty good chance that that's what was happening.
Well, I've already hired two attorneys, Jay Seculo and Joe DeGenova.
And if that's true, they both tell me I have recourse through civil action against anybody who might have done this because obviously there was no warrant to surveil me or unmask me.
And there's no national security reason at all to ever do that.
I'll tell you what, a Hannity-Susan Rice fight would be like a heavyweight championship fight.
You guys could sell tickets.
Oh, listen, you have no idea.
I am the best friend in the world, and I am the worst enemy in the world.
I will not stop.
I will be unrelenting in getting to the truth if, in fact, they did this to me.
Unrelenting.
But I don't know.
So we'll see.
All right, let's get to the phones.
Newt Gingrich is with us.
He's agreed to take some of your calls.
Deb and Marilyn.
Deb, you're on the Sean Hannity Show with former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich.
How are you?
Hi, good.
Thank you for taking my call.
Yes, ma'am.
And hello to Newt.
It's really an honor to talk to both of you.
I just wanted to say one of the things I, you know, you've had so much experience, Newt, with politics and working with both sides of the aisle.
And what type of advice right now would you give Trump for getting some of this crazy?
It's kind of like a microcosm in the White House.
You've got probably spies, you've got, you know, I mean, the staunch conservatives, you've got the liberal Democrats, and it's kind of like such a microcosm of people.
And, you know, it just, it must be very difficult to deal with that type of, you know, group.
And I wonder what advice you would have for them going forward.
You're talking about the palace intrigue stuff.
I think you're asking a really good question.
And it is a very unique situation, Mr. Speaker, where you have like 90 days to put a government together, less than 90 days.
And a government with thousands of job openings and availabilities, and it's hard.
All of a sudden, you win.
Now you've got to build a government.
It's not an easy task.
Well, look, I mean, first of all, my advice to the president is focus on the big things, keep doing the big things, and the little things will gradually sort themselves out.
If there are personality conflicts that are not fixable, you're going to have to get rid of some people.
And I'm with you, Sean.
That's fine.
I mean, administrations go through this.
If you have some problems, but they can work it out, then you have to keep them.
But I wouldn't invest much of the president's time.
He does not have to be a nursemaid to his own staff.
And if his staff isn't adult enough to get along and figure it out, then they ought to leave.
And I think that he's a good enough manager, and he knows that.
But his job is to focus on the big stuff.
If he gets us a Supreme Court justice who's a conservative, he gets us a dramatically strengthened position in the world.
He gets us the kind of deregulation we're getting.
He continues to work on economic growth.
You'll notice Toyota announced a huge investment that they're now going to make in the U.S.
I mean, all of these things are big deals, and Trump is a big deal guy.
He's not a small deal guy.
All right.
Thank you, Deb, for the call.
We appreciate it.
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Sean Tony is in St. Paul, Minnesota with Speaker Gingrich.
How are you?
What's up, Tony?
So my question is, if I was President Trump, I would think or I'd be almost paranoid that everything that I was doing was in some sort of a trap, whether it be going to the White House correspondence then or throwing the first pitch out at the baseball game.
The media wants to embarrass Trump.
And so my question in relation to Rice is, you know, she's a political operative.
She's a liar, as stated.
And I believe she's still a political operative now.
And how do we know that he is not being set up in a big-time trap?
Because, you know, if they're illegally spying on citizens, gathering all this data, if they were to open it up to an investigation, release it to the lazy journalists, as Newt pointed out, they'll just have a field day and they could use any text or any tweet or any memo they put in there to turn it around and to embarrass Trump.
And I just wanted to know your thoughts about that here.
Is he walking into a trap here, or is it good that we keep this investigation going forward?
Mr. Speaker.
I think in her case, if as it seems to be the case, that President Trump was right when he tweeted that he'd been under surveillance by the Trump and by the Obama administration, I think it's important to get to the bottom of it.
I'm hoping that the House and Senate intelligence committees are going to include all of this and the work they're doing.
I hope that they're going to bring in Susan Rice, but not just Susan Rice.
They need to look at all of the decision memos, all of the emails, all the things that relate to this.
And I think we're going to be surprised the number of people who we may find are, in fact, involved in this.
To me, and I agree with Sean, this is vastly bigger than Watergate and is very, very sobering, frankly.
It's a big job.
You know what?
But I think his vast experience in managing people.
Look, I've been through this in my own little universe here, and that is that you really work hard.
You get the right people.
Occasionally, wrong people enter your life and they have to go.
And when that happens, it's a little painful, but you move on.
And then you get the right people, and then everything runs smoothly, and everyone knows what their job is.
I never tell anybody that works for me what to do.
I don't tell them how to do their job.
I tell them, well, I do tell, yes, I say I want specific people on the show.
I don't tell you how to do your job, though.
I expect that you know how to do your job, and stop giving me those sarcastic looks in there.
And the same with TV.
I tell people the overall view, vision for the show that day, what my monologue is going to be.
I write it out and I send it, and that's it.
And I think it's, you know, if you're ever going to be a good manager, you've got to delegate responsibilities to people.
All right, let's go to, oh, you're going to love my buddy, Big Time AJ, Houston, Texas.
Big time, AJ, what's going on, baby?
How are you?
Big time, Sean Hannity.
Hey, we love you, man, and don't worry about them.
But you got the hands on the deal.
And Mr. Newt, how you doing, son?
I'm doing great, and I'm glad you called in.
Oh, big time.
Hey, I want to know: are any of these people going to be locked up?
Or when they get through with this, are any of them going to jail?
Because if that was us, Mr. Newt, we'd be under the jail right now.
I mean, these people have been lying and lying, and they're caught in the lies, and the media are covering for them.
Will any of them go to jail?
That's what I like to know, sir.
If you don't know what to do.
I think it depends in part on the Justice Department.
As you know, 97% of the contributions in the Justice Department were given to Hillary.
It's a 32 to 1 ratio for Hillary over Trump.
So that's part of it.
Part of it depends on the House and Senate intelligence committees.
I mean, they have the ability to investigate this, to bring it out, and to make it public.
And that's a big deal.
And we need to know more than we know right now before we can actually say anything definitive.
But certainly we know enough that there's every reason to believe that we should have some kind of effort in this direction.
And then we ought to look very, very seriously at what happened and what does it mean.
All right, big time.
We've got to let you roll because we're up on a break here, my friend.
God bless you.
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You know, it's very funny.
So I'm watching this whole turnaround of Susan Rice.
Remember, she said that Bo Bergdahl served with honor and distinction, right?
Sergeant Bergwell, there are a lot of questions about how he originally was captured and whether or not he had deserted, had left his post.
Is that going to be investigated?
And if it's found that he did indeed leave his post, will he be disciplined or has already paid the price?
Certainly, anybody who's been held in those conditions in captivity for five years has paid an extraordinary price.
But that is really not the point.
The point is that he's back.
He's going to be safely reunited with his family.
He served the United States with honor and distinction.
And we'll have the opportunity eventually to learn what has transpired in the past years.
But what's most important now is his health and well-being, that he has the opportunity to recover in peace and security and be reunited with his family, which is why this is such a joyous day.
So she lied about that, lied on the five Sunday shows.
She lied two weeks ago when she said, I don't know anything about the surveillance, unmasking, or any of these issues involving intelligent leaks.
So Andrea Mitchell, you know, goes off on the Trump administration.
People flat-out lie.
Now, she's the one that interviewed Susan Rice, the liar.
Listen to what Andrea Mitchell says.
This is typical NBC garbage.
Where does the Trump presidency, as nascent as it is, fit in in terms of its dealings with the press?
It is totally sui generis.
I've never seen anything like this.
I had a very contentious relationship with the late Larry Speaks, the acting press secretary for Ronald Reagan.
Jim Brady never lost the title of press secretary, even though he lost so many of his faculties.
But the acting press secretary, Larry Speaks, I thought misled people, was misogynistic, very contentious.
I had a terribly adversarial relationship.
I had a very difficult relationship with Don Reagan.
Everyone at the time knew that.
The chief of staff in the second term was very abusive to me and really went after me after I was investigating Iran-Contra and asked questions of the president at a news conference.
It all blew up.
And that was a very difficult and frankly frightening time for me.
I didn't have a great relationship with the Carter Press people.
I filled in, you know, as the junior reporter behind my colleague at the time, Judy Woodruff, and the late John Palmer.
And so I often was on weekends and other trips.
And in the Reagan years, full-time, but in Carter, just part-time.
And they were tough, also, some of the officials.
It wasn't that easy being a woman in the White House then, unless they really knew you well.
And, you know, I think they maybe have trusted some of the people who covered them in the campaign and I had not.
But I've never seen anything like this, where people just flat-out lie.
I'm not talking about the president now, but people just, you know, black is white and white is black, and they mislead you.
And it's really disconcerting to see the podium in the White House briefing room being used to mislead or misdirect or obfuscate.
Now, what's amazing about that comment is she interviewed Susan Rice last week.
And Susan Rice is a liar.
Bo Bergdahl did not serve with honor and distinction.
How do we know?
Because we interviewed people that were there and knew that he had left his post and deserted his members.
People died because he did this.
People died.
We also know Susan Rice lied on five Sunday shows about Benghazi.
We also know Susan Rice either lied last week or lied the week, two weeks before when she was talking about the surveillance issue, the unmasking issue.
And Andrea Mitchell interviewed her and she never asked her about her license.
Doesn't care about the reason she feels so put upon is because, well, maybe she herself has a political agenda.
I'll give you an example.
So she had Susan Rice on the program.
Well, we now know that, and she had her on after the chemical attack last week.
We now know that Susan Rice was out there saying that, oh, we got chemical weapons out of Syria.
Well, that never happened.
Here's a lie told straight to Andrea Mitchell.
I think it was important for me as President of the United States to send a message that, in fact, there is something different about chemical weapons.
And regardless of how it ended up playing, I think in the Beltway, what is true is Assad got rid of his chemical weapons.
And the reason he got rid of them is 90% or 95% of those chemical stockpiles were eliminated.
That's a lot of chemical weapons that are not right now in the hands of ISIL or NARA or for that matter, the regime.
The president made his decision to strike.
He announced his decision to strike publicly.
And the purpose of the strike was to get the chemical weapons out of Syria.
That's the purpose.
We achieved a deal with the Russians that didn't wind up in two days of strikes that would have sent a, quote, message, but would not have removed the weapons.
We struck a deal to get all of the declared weapons out of Syria.
Never before in a conflict has that ever happened.
That during a conflict, weapons of mass destruction are taken out of the zone of conflict.
And thank God we did that, because if we hadn't done that today, ISIL would have those chemical weapons in large parts of the country.
Because in the meantime, we were able to find a solution that actually removed the chemical weapons that were known from Syria in a way that the use of force would never have accomplished.
They're all lies because we saw the use of chemical weapons.
They've lied about so many things, just like Hillary Clinton lied.
And I never see Andrea Mitchell call out their lies because Andrea Mitchell is a political hack.
Andrea Mitchell has a political agenda.
And she poses as something she's not, a journalist.
She's not a journalist.
She is a political activist for the Democratic Party, period.
Brandon is in Denver, Colorado.
Brandon, hey, how are you?
K-How Radio, what's going on?
Sean.
Yes, sir.
Hey, I am just really concerned about the lack of opposition coming from the right on these Syrian airstrikes.
I mean, this is what millions and millions of diehard Trump supporters voted against.
I mean, to me, this is just a huge neocon hack job with Gary Cohn, Dina Powell, getting more foreign policy.
Are you going to give me this conspiracy that, you know, a bunch of neocons took over and they're doing this for some other agenda?
Let me ask you a question.
You live in Denver.
Where do you live in Denver?
Downtown?
You live in an isolated part of town?
You live in a community?
Okay, you live in the burbs.
Okay, you're driving home from work one night, and as you're pulling up next to your house, you see a woman being brutally raped.
What are you going to do?
I'll do everything I can to stop that.
I don't know what this has to do with our interventions in some other sovereign country, though.
I think, America, I do not want troops on the ground.
I do not want to get engaged in this Syrian civil war that's been going on for seven years.
But I do think that when you see the beginnings of a modern-day Holocaust, America has to lead and send a message.
We're not going to let you go that far.
And to me, A Holocaust is when innocent men, women, and children are gassed.
Not soldiers, not a battlefight.
This is literally an attack against innocent civilians and the use of chemical weapons, and it wasn't the first time.
Now, you might say to me, and rightly so, well, Hannity, we can't be the world's policemen, and you're right.
We can't respond every time.
But there are times we can respond, and there are times that when you send a message that it's probably going to stop that kind of conduct.
I understand in war, people die.
I understand in war that there are civilian casualties and collateral damage.
I get it.
I understand it.
It's a sad, dark, evil part of the human experience.
Evil exists.
But every once in a while, if we're the United States of America and we see children being gassed and suffering with sarin gas and chlorine and all these other types of dangerous chemical weapons, I think it was the right thing to do.
Now, if Assad wants to continue this, I would hit him again.
And if he wants to continue it after that, I'd go right after him personally.
But beyond that, America can't commit itself to troops on the ground.
We can't solve every conflict, but I think we are sending a message that that is a line too far.
Is that a bad thing to do?
I mean, I disagree with you about Assad.
Can I say something about Assad?
I'm asking you, were you not moved at all by the fact that children were slaughtered with chemical weapons?
First of all, there's about as much evidence that Assad gassed his own people as there are that Russians hacked our own.
With all due respect, with all due respect, we've been able to actually track the flight pattern of the plane that left that airbase and literally drop the chemical weapons on those people.
These are civilians that they dropped them on.
So it seems rather incontrovertible to me.
Look, I mean, we've been lied to in the past.
If it comes out we're lied to, I'd be very angry, but I don't think so.
So the point is, you're saying that even if we know that it was Assad that did this, that there should be no repercussions, no consequences, and the U.S. should just stay out of it and watch children die from chemical weapons attacks.
I can't live with that.
That's a line too far.
You know, I've got to tell you something.
Think about this.
The numbers certainly don't match anything like World War II.
But there were people that knew that the gas chambers in Nazi Germany existed and that millions ended up getting slaughtered.
And the world finally came together to stop it, but it was way deep into the conflict and there was a lot of ignoring of facts on the ground at the time and what was really happening.
All right, I'll give you the last thought.
Go ahead.
I just want to say that Assad is the only one in Syria who's protecting Christians from jihad.
And if we attack, if we get rid of Assad, that's only helping Israel.
And quite frankly, it's helping ISIS because ISIS is the one who's in the future.
Okay.
You know, listen, when you brought up Cohn and the neocons, there's some anti-Israeli agenda here.
I don't know what it is, but I don't really care because I'm wasting my breath on you.
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We have literally Christian persecution going on all throughout the globe, and not a lot of people are paying attention to it.
This attack, these two attacks in Egypt on Palm Sunday, and all these people killed and injured.
Just the latest example, ISIS taking credit for it, but this Christian genocide that's been going on all throughout the Middle East is a purge to get all Christians removed.
It's either convert or die.
All right, back to our busy telephones.
As we say hi to Sean in Austin, Texas.
Sean, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
I'm doing well, Sean.
Thanks for having me.
My question is about the strikes on Syria as well.
You know, we have a lot of, we don't have a lot of allies in the Middle East area, but we have Israel, we have Jordan.
And I want to know why it is that the United States had to expend $95 million worth of military equipment and explosives on this airbase when Israel, who's only like 200 miles away from Syria, didn't launch these strikes.
Jordan actually borders Syria, and King Abdullah Jordan's a pilot.
He knows about military strategy.
The simple answer to your question is only we could do what we did.
They have tomahawk missiles.
They have rockets.
I am telling you that if Israel did what you're asking them to do, it would create a conflict within the Middle East that would grow out of control probably immediately.
Well, then what are they to do in allies?
That's why we have allies to do things in regions that we can't do.
Okay, but I'm saying it was whether you like it or not, like so there are certain things.
I don't like this.
There's certain things in life that I accept.
You know, I've got to be a leader in my life and my family and in my work environment, okay?
It's just certain things I can do that I can't say to others to do.
And I look at it, America's the biggest, the strongest, the most powerful, and would be more likely to be the most successful at it as we were.
And the responsibility sometimes falls on our shoulders, and that's just the way it is.
And the reality is, if there's going to be any fighting on the ground, it should not be U.S. troops ever.
I'm not supporting that.
I'm not saying that.
I don't think, but then Jordan finds itself immersed in that same conflict.
I wouldn't be immersed in this conflict either.
And it's $95 million worth of stuff.
Okay, so then you're always going to make it work.
All right, so then the choice is to just let kids die from chemical weapon attacks.
What's the problem?
Do you have a problem with kids dying from chemical weapons attacks?
I do.
Self Saudi Arabia weapons.
Why don't they go in?
Okay, you want everybody to go in, but I'm just telling you.
I don't want us to go in.
Okay, so then the choice is let the kids get attacked with chemical weapons.
You're okay with that.
I don't.
Are you okay with us doing nothing while kids are attacked with chemical weapons?
I'm not okay with Israel and Jordan and Saudi Arabia.
You're not answering my question.
Are you okay with America sitting back and not trying to stop chemical weapons attacks on children?
I'm asking.
They are not American children, and we have concerns here in the United States.
Okay, so let the children die of chemical weapon attacks.
Okay, that's right.
I just wanted to know.
I just needed to know the answer to that.
All right, thank you.
Vance in Ohio, how are you?
Hey, Sean, thanks for taking my call.
Yes, sir.
You got about 30 seconds.
I have a curious angle.
I was wondering if anybody on the conservative side or Fox News is asking anybody, like in Congress and the intelligence community, to see if the Obama administration had been surveilling, quote-unquote, Christie or Cruz or Rubio.
Well, we had Sarah Carter on last week, and she confirmed that members of Congress and the House and the Senate were surveilled regularly and en masse regularly.
So the answer to your question is yes.
Well, I'm hoping somebody follows up with that because I'm sure the Russikus thing is just a red herring because they were certain Hillary was going to win.
And when it fell apart on him, it was like, oh, crap, you know, we got to get the brakes here and cover it up.
And that's all this is.
All right, my friend, I got to go.
Appreciate it.
But your answer is yes.
We'll continue.
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Well, we have chronicled on this program what I think most have ignored worldwide, and that is what has become a purging of Christians around the world.
And you see it especially with the Yazidis and Iraq and really Christian genocide at a very high level.
And it's happening more and more.
We had 44 people killed, more than 100 people wounded in the Sunday blast at these two Coptic Christian churches in Egypt.
ISIS, of course, claims responsibility.
And here are, well, we have one eyewitness to the account, and we have the.
This happened, by the way, during a church prayer service, Palm Sunday service.
and here's the audio he was actually in the church at the time of the attack
And just show them, he was wearing this rope, and you can see just the blood from this attack.
And David, just tell me, you know, what was it like to be in there?
What did you see?
Okay, it was disasterful.
It was a big disaster.
Just the whole thing happened in just a blink.
There was fire, smoke, ashes everywhere.
Organs are scattered everywhere.
Just blood.
I tried to realize what's happening from that choke.
I lost my hearing temporary.
So I just went to see my mom.
But then when I find her, I try to get what I could whoever I can to the ambulance.
So we rushed to the hospital and saved who we can save.
Now, we have talked at length on this program is that Christian genocide has gone on all throughout the Middle East.
And, you know, for example, what happened, these Twin Palm Sunday horrors was just ISIS's last attempt at atrocities against Christians in the Middle East and followed the release of a video calling them the favorite prey of radical Islamists.
Oh, worshipers of the cross, the soldiers of the state are watching you, said a massed militant that they identified.
But warning in a February propaganda video in the 20-minute video from ISIS affiliated in the Islamic State in Egypt, it has footage of Coptic Pope and Christians and businessmen and judges and priests,
and it shows some of these other radical Islamists identified as the suicide bomber struck this particular St. Mark's Coptic Cathedral in Cairo that was responsible for killing 28 people, mainly women and children, back in whatever that was, December.
Joining us now to discuss it in studio, and apropos, his brand new book is out.
This is his third book on religion and faith.
David Limbaugh is with us.
It's called The True Jesus, Uncovering the Divinity of Christ in the Gospels.
But, you know, there really is, if we're going to just be blunt and honest here, there really is Christian genocide that the world's dealing with now.
Yes, it's all over the world.
And ISIS and the other radical Islamists have targeted Christians because we're, like the Jews, we're infidels.
And so they are hunting them down and they are mistreating them in all these various Islamic states.
And it is very, a very grave concern.
It's not just happening there.
We're also seeing a subtle discrimination against Christians in the United States, not violence and that type of thing.
But we are seeing mistreatment and persecution and slaughter of Christians throughout the world.
And it's not isolated, Sean.
People say, well, these are just, it's a religion of peace and it's just isolated events.
No, it's not isolated.
I'm not saying it's not a religion of peace, but I'm saying far too many people in that religion, in that culture, subscribe to this notion that the infidels must either submit or be killed.
And we must be aware of that and be ever vigilant.
That's what the whole meaning of the caliphate is all about.
I mean, it's either convert or die, and they are practicing it on a mass scale, and there's hardly a corner of the world that's not being impacted by it.
Even Australia and New Zealand, they're being impacted by it.
We see it all over Europe, the Islamization of Europe.
You know, it's interesting, though, to follow your career.
You're still a well-known political commentator, writer, author.
You've also become a Christian scholar in the course of writing these books.
And, you know, the true Jesus, I mean, uncovering the divinity of Christ in the Gospels.
I mean, you have done a deep, deep dig and dive here into what is, I think, your second passion, or maybe it's your first passion, and politics is your second.
Well, sometimes I wrestle with that.
I think politics is an idol for me.
And I've always wanted to write about Christianity, and I've studied it for 25 years, and now I feel like I have more credentials to do that after having studied so long.
But this book is different from the first two books because those were polemics.
Those were books where I tried to make an argument for the truth of Christian claims.
In this book, I let the gospels speak for themselves because I believe that if you encourage people to read the gospels, Jesus, the Son of God, will come alive.
He'll jump off the pages.
No human being, no fiction author, no combination of fiction authors, authors could have created the being that you will encounter if you read the Gospels.
And it just blows me away.
I was originally going to do, Sean, an introduction to the New Testament altogether.
And as I immersed myself in the Gospels, I discovered something almost as an epiphany.
As many times as I'd read the Gospels before, they hit me in a different way because I was trying to condense and synopsize and summarize the essence of the Gospels.
And I called my publisher, Regnery.
I said, can I just expand this and do a book on the Gospels alone?
We'll do the rest of it, the rest of the New Testament next time.
And they readily agreed.
I have condensed all four Gospels into one unified account.
And sometimes I summarize the statements and speeches and events, always staying true to the text.
But in many cases, I let the gospels, the words speak for themselves, reproduce them verbatim.
And then I go into a commentary of each and every substantive section of the Gospels with the goal that people who are now intimidated and don't ever pick up the Bible, when they read my book, they will read something that will expose them to every substantive section of the Bible.
And hopefully Jesus Christ will come alive and it'll whet their appetite because there are no substitutes for reading the Bible and the gospel themselves.
Books about Jesus are awesome.
They have helped me, but there is no substitute for the real thing.
And my goal is to encourage people to have people better understand the Gospels and then dive in and read them for themselves.
You actually put it in a very, very incredible order because in many ways, and you even said this was one of your goals in the book, to serve as a layman's introduction to gospels and reading.
And you begin with several chapters that outline the history of Israel between Old and New Testament times and describing the cultural and religious climate at the time that Christ intervened in human history.
Now, it's interesting to me because I'm probably going back to Israel next week.
And you have the emergence there sort of of all three religions.
Exactly.
And all three continents, by the way.
The Holy Land, you see Africa, Europe, and Asia.
We came, I just came back from Israel after experiencing an amazing 10-day trip.
This land was chosen by God.
God called out Abraham and told him he was going to go to the land he would show him.
And he sent him to the promised land.
And he said he was going to create a nation out of Abraham, which ended up being the Jewish nation.
And through that nation, he would bring the good news of salvation to all of mankind.
And he promised in the Bible that that land would be pivotal throughout history.
And we've seen it as pivotal and is always going to be pivotal and controversial and cherished and fought over.
And as I say, I just came back and it blows me away the realism that you see, the history, the archaeological history and just the land.
We sailed on the Sea of Galilee where Jesus taught.
We went to the city of Capernaum where Jesus preached.
We went all over throughout.
I could go, that's not the purpose of this interview, but I'm telling you, it blew my mind.
And so this book is in two parts.
It's an introduction to the Gospels altogether.
But the first part, as you said, is a background on all four Gospels together and individually.
And I go into the intertestamental history.
What happened to the land?
What happened to the Jewish people between the time they had a united kingdom in about 1000 BC until the time of Christ?
I go into that mainly focusing on what happened at the end of the Old Testament, the book of Malachi, about 400 BC, up until the time of Christ, that 400-year period where the control of the land of Palestine changed at least four times from the Babylonians, the Persians, the Greeks, the Romans, and how that land ended up and how it affected the people, what their messianic expectations were at the time Christ came, because we need to understand what they were thinking,
what they had experienced when Jesus intervened in human history, because it's relevant to understand how they reacted to it and why I believe the Jews didn't accept Christ and, by and large, didn't accept him.
All of this is so fascinating how it all comes together.
What do you say?
Because, I mean, I think a lot of people are in the same position I am.
And that is that the church, like, for example, I was raised a Catholic.
I can't get beyond the scandal in the Catholic Church.
I just can't.
Meanwhile, I believe, you know, I've studied theology.
I went to a seminary in high school, and we had to take Latin, and I never was any good at it, so I stopped taking Latin.
But I've gone in a deep dive in my own way, and I believe everything, but in many ways, the church is disappointed and is corrupt.
Well, that's true, but sadly, we are all human beings.
We are all fallen.
We live in a broken world.
If you read the Bible, it tells you that man's fall began with Adam, and the only way to ultimately restore man to God, to reunite him with God, is through the grace of Jesus Christ.
And so we're going to have corruption in our various churches.
The Catholics aren't the only ones who have problems.
We evangelicals have problems too.
In my book, I try to be more ecumenical, try not to offend the different denominations because not by compromising truth.
I believe we have to show the true Jesus, not the Jesus that's fabricated by the popular culture that wants to conform Jesus to the culture.
We must conform ourselves to Jesus.
He's not this milquetoast person that the culture conceives.
He embodies.
Explain that difference.
Explain that difference because you talk about actually the Jesus conceived by pop culture, which tries to make him like us rather than the other way around.
That's a pretty big, profound theme that goes through the book.
Yes, yes.
Yes, Jesus is the Prince of Peace, but He didn't come in His first coming to bring peace.
He tells us in the Gospels that He is truth and the truth will divide.
His message will divide brother from brother, father from son, in-law from in-law, because people don't want to hear the truth.
We've got pride, we've got sin issues we don't want to hear, and so people will have difficulties.
But Jesus didn't promise us that by faith in him, we wouldn't encounter difficulties.
In fact, he guaranteed we would.
Therefore, I reject the health and prosperity gospel, which says if we just have enough faith, we'll all be rich.
No, that's not true.
We're going to experience difficulties in this life.
All of us do.
We are broken human beings, but the only answer is Jesus Christ.
And the Bible makes that clear if you believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God.
How come human beings in your study and all of this, even when they repent, which is from the Latin to change your heart, how come they keep on sinning?
Because the Bible doesn't promise that we will be sin-free when we accept Christ into our hearts.
It says that we will overcome the power of sin, which means we will be able to fight sin on a daily basis and will become more Christ-like by exercising the spiritual disciplines, prayer, Bible study, fasting, that type of thing.
But we're never going to become sin-free this side of eternity, and we're not promised we are.
However, the standard doesn't change.
Jesus in the Sermon on the Mount presents an absolute moral standard.
You must be perfect as the Father is perfect.
Yet we can't attain that.
So by telling us that, what he's really saying is you can't achieve this standard by your own merit, by your own works.
Therefore, you have to put your faith in me because I've done the work for you.
I lived as a perfect human being.
I am God in the flesh.
I sacrificed.
Let me ask the last question.
Yes.
You're so, I mean, we've been friends for all of these years.
Yes.
Why don't you become a pastor or a preacher?
I don't know because I'm not qualified probably.
And I feel.
listen this is your passion i mean and i and i'm asking seriously because i don't like i i i feel like we all Did you ever think about it, though?
No, what I've thought about is that we all, as believers, have a duty to spread the good news to the ends of the earth.
And I think I have a unique position, a unique platform straddling both the political and the faith worlds of reaching people that pastors may not be able to reach.
We all have to do what ours is.
You really do make this book for somebody like me that believes, but I'm not as deeply immersed in this as you are.
Yes, and I don't claim to be an expert.
Yeah, but this is your passion, and you actually study day and night, right?
I've got to take a break here.
You're going to join us on TV tonight, too, right?
Yes, yes.
But the book is phenomenal.
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We'll talk more about the persecution of Christians and Christian genocide that's going on worldwide tonight at 10 on Hannity on the Fox News channel.
It's in Amazon.com, bookstores everywhere now.
Yes.
And David Limbaugh, another New York Times best-selling book.
I mean, it's phenomenal the audience you have built on this side of your life, also on the political side.
So thanks for being with us.
Thanks so much for having me.
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