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March 23, 2017 - Sean Hannity Show

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	We are in Chicago today.
	A lot of breaking news all over the place.
	We will be all over it all day.
	Obviously, the terror attack in London.
	We're going to update you on the very latest all throughout the afternoon.
	We have a vote tomorrow on the health care repeal replace bill.
	As of now, the Freedom Caucus remains against it.
	Two of those members will join us and tell us why.
	And they claim that they have the votes to stop this bill in the House of Representatives.
	Also, President Trump vindicated on his wiretap claim, unless you don't think surveillance of Trump Tower and the president or the president-elect of the United States is wiretapping.
	Surveillance, same thing.
	We're now splitting hairs, but the House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunez says he has learned of yes, the collection of communications concerning not only the president-elect, but his transition team during surveillance operations.
	Donald Trump right, Sean Hannity right, Sarah Carter was right, John Solomon was right.
	We've been telling you for two weeks, and the rest of the alt-left propaganda destroyed Trump media with egg on its face once again.
	We have to start and begin in London, where yes, more terror on this case in Europe.
	I'm the national head of Council Policing, and I'm also Acting Deputy Commissioner.
	I want to make a statement about this afternoon's events.
	And I'm going to try and cover three main areas.
	What we know about the incidents, the ongoing operation, and what London can expect over the coming days.
	As you know, we've declared this as a terrorist incident, and the Cantorism Command are carrying out a full-scale investigation into the events today.
	The attack started when a car was driven over Westminster Bridge, hitting and injuring a number of members of the public, also including three police officers on their way back from accommodation ceremony.
	The car then crashed near to Parliament, and at least one man, armed with the knife, continued the attack and tried to enter parliament.
	Sadly I can confirm that now four people have died.
	That includes the police officer who was protecting parliaments and one man we believe to be the attacker who was shot by a police farms officer.
	The officer's family have been made aware.
	At least 20 people have been injured.
	As part of long established and well-rehearsed plans, Parliament has been locked down, and the Met responded in line with our plans for a marauding terrorist attack.
	That response included uniformed and specialist firearms officers.
	We now, of course, have an ongoing operation.
	And whilst we currently believe there was only one attacker, I'm sure the public will understand us taking every precaution in looking down and searching the area as thoroughly and exhaustively as possible.
	And I know that the officials working within Parliament and public in the area completely understand the need to do this.
	And I thank them for their patience and their support.
	This investigation has the full weight and expertise of the Council's terrorism command behind it.
	And if there are people who saw the events unfold today but haven't yet spoken to us, I would urge them to get in touch.
	A crime scene will remain in place in the affected areas in Westminster.
	And as you understand it's five, so we carry out an out painstaking investigation to recover all the possible evidence.
	Looking forward throughout the rest of the day, including when people are commuting home, and indeed over the days that follow, the people of London will see extra police officers armed and unarmed on our streets.
	This includes our officers working longer hours and extra shifts alongside our colleagues from British Transport Police in the City of London.
	And of course, as you're aware, we can call on the support of the military should we need to at a future point.
	We are also in the process of opening up our casualty bureau to help those people who are worried about friends and family who may have been caught up in the attack.
	Furthermore, we're reaching out to communities and community leaders across London to reassure them.
	Our strength as a city depends on our ability to stand together at such terrible times.
	If anyone sees anything suspicious or anything that causes concern, please do hesit do contact us.
	Don't hesitate.
	My thoughts are with all those who've been affected by today's attack.
	And as a service, we've lost one of our own as he acted to protect the public and his colleagues.
	This is a day we planned for, but we hope would never happen.
	Sadly, it's now a reality.
	We will continue to do all we can to protect the people of London.
	All right, that is uh obviously the latest.
	Let me give you the bottom line here.
	It was two basically separate attacks coordinated, obviously.
	You'd have to be pretty dumb to assume anything else.
	You have at least two people now confirmed dead, including one police officer, and more than twenty plus people injured.
	Uh, Parliament has in fact been shut down there.
	You have this incident that saw the police officer stabbed and killed in one place, and then on the bridge, you have as many as a dozen people run over outside of London's Parliament building, and basically they mowed down pedestrians on London's Westminster Bridge, leaving in that case more than a dozen with injuries described by many as just catastrophic.
	And at the same time, you had a knife-wielding attacker stabbing a police officer and was shot on the grounds outside of Britain's parliament, sending the compound into obvious lockdown.
	Now, originally the reports, and I'm getting more information about this.
	I don't have full confirmation, but I'm gonna let you in on what we do know now.
	But the assailant 30s or 40s carrying a seven to eight-inch knife, just to give you some awareness.
	You know, some states have knives that you can carry, non-switchblade, uh, that usually are anywhere between the three and a half to four and a half inch range, so this is about twice the size of what would normally in a in a state be a legal uh knife to carry.
	It's unclear if the person shot by police and the driver are the same person.
	They weren't able to confirm that at this point.
	London comp London keeps us talking about the number of casualties, the cleanup continues, but um, you know, it's just another example of another terror attack, and then one has to wonder okay, what is the motivation?
	And I know in many people's minds you're not allowed to assume at this early point that this could in any way be terror-related.
	But the reality is that is where a normal person's first thought would go in light of all of the attacks that have happened in Paris and in France and in Germany and in Great Britain and in Brussels and Belgium and all throughout the rest of Europe.
	And we have talked at length on this program about the Islamization, Not only of Great Britain, but all of Europe.
	And we talk about, for example, there was an article going back some time, the Islamization of Britain in 2016 more backwards in some parts of Pakistan.
	And remember, at different points, all throughout the Obama presidency, man caused disasters, overseas contingency operations, you know, workplace violence, none of which happen to be true here.
	And then it brings into context and focus all of the issues that President Trump not only ran on, but also is now fighting, and that is building a wall to protect our southern border, where drugs and human trafficking and guns and the potential for terrorists to cross into our country from an open border is so important.
	And secondly, the issue of vetting refugees from countries.
	I mean, there, you know, I've said this before.
	A lot of people don't believe it.
	There are no go zones in Paris, even though the mainstream media won't admit it.
	It's a fact.
	It is a fact that there are what, 83 separate Sharia courts that have been established in Great Britain alone, and Sharia courts that are administered by Islamic justice.
	In other words, not subject to assimilation and a system of laws in Great Britain that everybody else is in fact subordinate to.
	Anyway, in Sharia law run by some clerics, well, what does that mean you can chop off somebody's hand?
	As uh they do in some of these countries that practice sharia.
	Anyway, or teaching children fundamental British values as an act of cultural supremacism, according to the National Union of Teachers that wanted to replace the concept with one that includes international rights.
	That's that's what Great Britain has been struggling and debating in their country.
	And I assume if America continues to take in refugees from countries that have values and cultures that directly contradict our constitutional values and cultures, then that clash of civilization that a few of us are willing and brave enough to talk about.
	You grow up in a country and you have a right to tell a woman she can't drive a car, and you have a right to tell a woman she can't go out and travel wherever she wants to travel or needs a male relative to even walk in the neighborhood, but of course, fully covered.
	I mean, it's insane.
	Marital rape is is legal in some of these countries that practice Sharia, gays and lesbians are slaughtered and thrown off roofs and and hung and beaten.
	Christians and Jews often persecuted.
	Well, how do you mesh those two conflicting cultures?
	You know, there's a study, a 615-page study that came out, and it happened to be more than a hundred thousand British Muslims.
	They actually sympathize with suicide bombers who commit other acts of terror.
	And also, according to this survey, only one in three British Muslims, 34%, would contact the police if they believed that somebody close to them had become involved with radical Islam.
	The same poll showed 23% of British Muslims said Islamic Sharia law should replace British law in areas with large Muslim populations.
	Well, what that means you're having countries within a country here.
	And it's not much different than the crime statistics that I gave out about Germany just last week on this program.
	I won't rehash all of those now.
	But now we've got over 20 injured, two dead, catastrophic injuries.
	You got a car driven by a by a knife man mowing down pedestrians on Westminster Bridge.
	Now, in the end, maybe it'll turn out this isn't radical Islam.
	We don't know.
	But there is evidence beginning to emerge here that we're paying attention to.
	Uh, we know that there is a zero hedge article that came out.
	London terrorism suspect is named as a hate preacher.
	Anyway, press reports circulating, not confirmed at this time.
	I want to be very clear.
	We're just trying to get a grip on this, so I won't mention his name.
	But uh what we do know is the reports that the convicted terror fundraiser, this guy whose name I do know that I'm not talking about, branded a Muslim chaplain who served British soldiers, uh, was named a traitor for working with the UK government,
	added his, you know, that the fire brand preacher Encouraged the in other words, he said about a Muslim chaplain that he was a traitor for helping the work for the UK government and serve British soldiers and has encouraged followers to look out for the cleric.
	In other words, basically threatening this guy.
	Apparently, there might be a connection.
	We're looking into this now between this very same cleric that I'm talking about and Anjam Chowderay, the guy that I call one sick, evil twisted son of a bitch on my TV show one day, which kind of went viral not only here but in London and elsewhere.
	Anyway, you have some ISIS supporters that we now know from the telegraph reporting, you know, cheering the attack on Westminster and suggesting its revenge for the United Kingdom strikes on ISIS in Syria.
	So you know there's sympathetic people on the ground there.
	One uh one said the UK was paying blood for blood for its embowment in the U.S. led coalition's campaign against jihadists.
	Well, does it now bring into focus once again?
	If the Boston bombing didn't do it, if Fort Hood didn't do it, Chattanooga didn't do it, if the Pulse Nightclub in Orlando didn't do it, if San Bernardino didn't do it, if if France and and Belgium and Great Britain and Sweden and all throughout Europe, thou those attacks didn't do it.
	Maybe now does it bring into focus the danger of unvetted refugees and open borders?
	How many times do we have to repeat the words our thoughts and prayers go out to the families and the victims?
	Now we mean it, we're sincere.
	I just wish we didn't have to say it so often.
	I wish we would take the threat seriously.
	I wish we were dedicated in protecting first and foremost the American people.
	I can't believe, you know, the president can't even do his job as commander in chief because the left wing has designed a strategy that they're going out there and they're gonna fight him in the courts and everywhere else.
	All right, we're a little late here.
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	Trump vindicated on the wiretap law.
	We're going to get into that right after the bottom of the hour here.
	This is a big, big deal.
	This is not a small deal.
	Also, we have New Gingrich weighing in on the terror attack.
	It looks like the Freedom Caucus has the votes to stop this repeal replacement bill, and we'll have Freedom Caucus members on the program today.
	We have a reporter also at the bottom of the next hour out of London, and we will be debating in our second hour all of the all of the issues surrounding radical Islamic terrorism, refugees, the European problem that could potentially become the American problem.
	Um I've got more details now.
	They're reporting three have been confirmed killed.
	And the prime minister of Great Britain was only forty yards from where this attack took place.
	We have the first photo of the suspect in the Daily Mail that they put out.
	It looks like the person whose name I have in front of me, but you know what?
	Why give this guy any credit or any infamy anyway?
	But uh it looks like we were right on it.
	Uh this is the anniversary of the Brussels massacre.
	We have ISIS is now celebrating, and they are using the term blood for blood, and uh, so that's just the latest of what's happening on the ground there.
	But you know, less than a year ago, remember London has a new mayor, Sadiq Khan, the first Muslim ever to hold the title of mayor of London.
	And he said, you know, once, you know, this is going back when the first terror attack when he was mayor, he said, you know, describing by authorities a terror incident.
	Anyway, so he had said, My thoughts are with those affected and their families.
	A year ago, he stated that terror attacks were, quote, a part and parcel of living in a big city.
	Is that the answer?
	We're just going to give in.
	We're going to give up.
	We're just going to accept this as the new normal that people get to mow down and kill innocent men, women, and children.
	I don't think so.
	We'll continue our top three stories right after this.
	All right, we update you if you're just joining us, of course, the horrible attack that took place in London from earlier today.
	Now the British police are saying that four have been killed and more than twenty people have been injured.
	We know that ISIS says this is blood for blood.
	They're out celebrating.
	Prime Minister was only 40 yards from this attack.
	Uh the suspect in this particular case is now confirmed dead.
	Uh we have many, many other people that are injured very severely in a catastrophic way almost.
	So we have that that we're also following today.
	Other stories that we're going to get to here in a second, Devin Nunez confirms that the Trump team was in fact surveilled and Trump Tower itself was surveilled, and Donald Trump himself was surveilled, and we have more questions than answers, which means that once again that the news media was wrong, and of course Donald Trump was right.
	And Sean Hannity was right, and Sarah Carter was right, and John Solomon was right.
	Just like we were right about the election, just like we were right about Obama, just we were like right about the media won't tell you the truth about Obama's failed record.
	Just like they colluded with Hillary, we were right about that too.
	Anyway, the reporting of this police officer also was stabbed and killed in this incident.
	And uh, that's the very latest out of that.
	We're also following today the issue of health care and the lead up to this vote that is taking place tomorrow.
	And as of right now, Freedom Caucus members are now saying that in fact they do not have the votes to pass this bill.
	So we're gonna find out what that means as well.
	Uh in any second now, we're going to be joined by Benjamin Hall, who's a Fox News foreign correspondent, and uh, by the way, author of the book Inside ISIS and the brutal rise of a terrorist army, and he's on the ground in London, and apparently we're we we had him and we just lost him, and when we get him back, we'll bring him to you.
	Just to give you some headlines as it relates to what Devin Nunez is saying, is this is really dangerous.
	Donald Trump tweets out, yeah, he was wiretapped.
	Donald Trump was right because members of the Donald Trump transition team, including the president himself, were under U.S. government surveillance.
	What have we been telling you for two weeks?
	What has Sarah Carter and John Solomon been reporting?
	And this uh happened apparently in November.
	It happened in December, and at least up until and including January, according to the House Intelligence Committee Chairman, Devin Nunez.
	Nunion says the surveillance appears to be legal.
	We don't all know all the answers yet, and that he's concerned because it was not related to the FBI's investigation into Russia's meddling in the election, and apparently was also widely disseminated across the intelligence community, which then goes back to my argument about what Obama did with 14 days to leave before leaving office, and that was amending executive order twelve triple three.
	He said, I've seen intelligence reports that clearly show that the president-elect and his team monitored, and it looks to me at this point it might be legally collected, but it was essentially a lot of information on the president-elect and his transition team and what they were doing.
	Wow.
	Nunz said that he's headed to the White House to brief the president on what it is that he has learned, which he said it came from sources who thought that he should know it, that we should know it.
	And he says he's trying to get more information from the FBI, CIA, and NSA.
	What have I been telling you?
	These intelligence leaks are not by accident.
	The deep state is real.
	That there is a clear and present danger now that this president and his entire team is facing.
	Nunz described the surveillance as, well, at least for now, the incidental collection, which can occur when a person inside the U.S. communicates with a foreign target of U.S. surveillance, but in those cases the identities of U.S. citizens, as we've been told you are supposed to be minimized.
	In other words, the listening is actually minimized by by the intelligence agency looking into it.
	And but it can be unmasked by intelligence officials under circum certain circumstances, but like in the case of General Flynn, that never should have been made known.
	That was a felony and a violation of the espionage act.
	Nunya is also saying his new information appears to show that additional members bes beyond Michael Flynn were also unmasked.
	And that means they were identified in U.S. intelligence reports.
	More and more this is looking political.
	More and more this is looking that people of very high levels within the intelligence community were potentially committing multiple felonies.
	We'll get back to this in a minute, but first for an update on these terror attacks in London.
	Ben Hall with us, Fox News foreign uh correspondent, author of Inside of ISIS, the brutal rise of a terrorist army.
	Uh first of all, Benjamin, our thoughts and prayers go out to our friends in the in Great Britain and the victims and their families.
	But you know, there's uh there's a lot to discuss here.
	First tell us the very latest on what's happened.
	Well, absolutely, and we're just hearing now that uh this is very much a terror investigation, uh, the police confirming that uh four people dead, including the assailant as well as a policeman, a thirty year old woman as well.
	Uh it started off at about two thirty-five.
	You know, you could not pick a place that is more surveilled, more uh famous than the House of Parliament, and that's exactly where it was, and exactly why he would have carried it out here.
	It is getting the attention that that that it that he perhaps uh was looking for.
	Uh 235 he veered off the road into the sidewalk of a on a Westminster Bridge and he mowed down, we know about twenty people there.
	He then put proceeded in his car to the House of Parliament where he rammed into one of the entrances before running inside with a long knife, stabbing a policeman who we also sadly know has passed away, and then charged at two other armed policemen.
	Now they shouted at him to stop, he didn't, uh, and they uh took him down.
	We know he he was killed during that exchange of gunfire.
	Uh it was just shortly after uh Prime Minister's questions, which is a weekly event here when the Prime Minister answers questions from members of Parliament, and she was in the house at the time, Parliament, as well as all the streets around it, were locked down immediately.
	She was eventually bundled out of the building in uh gray jaguar uh and taken away to safety.
	But there are still people, and I'm speaking to friends and colleagues inside Parliament, they are still inside some of those offices, they're not being allowed to leave.
	But there are helicopters overhead, there are boats on the River Thames, there are ambulances silence constantly.
	Um but it does seem as if now, speaking of Scotland Yard, that the situation is under control.
	This is a vehicle-born attack, and many people call that quite an unsophisticated attack, but there's very little you could do to stop it, no matter how much security you have.
	If someone is inspired and has their hands on a vehicle, you know, there's very little you can do, and that's exactly what he did.
	And we've seen it before in Nice.
	We saw it in Berlin, we've seen it twice here in the UK now.
	Um, and that's exactly what happened.
	ISIS had been calling for these kinds of attacks.
	They're on the back foot in Iraq and Syria, they've been calling on their followers through propaganda to lash out to launch these sort of attacks.
	Uh, and let's not forget that today is the day that I believe at sixty-eight foreign ministers are meeting in DC to discuss the anti-ISIS coalition.
	And it is also one year to the day that thirty-two people were killed in brutal attacks in Brussels, both at the subway and the airport.
	So we don't want to speculate.
	We do not yet have an identity for this man for the terrorists, but there are a number of indications pointing towards this.
	Um there was a picture that was published in the Daily Mail, and uh I have uh a name in front of me, and uh I'm sure you've heard of this controversial imam, this guy ad Anjam Chowder, have you not?
	I uh I've interviewed Andrew Chowdhury.
	He he he is uh he's off our street, thank goodness.
	Uh he was certainly inspiring many, many evil people.
	And yes, the name that you refer to as well, which is being published, I'm not sure whether we can we can confirm it yet, but he was a well known uh part of the jihadi network.
	Yeah, he was often random.
	Well, that's my question.
	I actually I actually have a a Twitter picture of him.
	I've not named him either.
	Could I just say his first new name is Abu?
	We're talking about the same person.
	Mm-hmm.
	That's correct, yeah.
	Well, there is a picture of Anjam Chowdray and Abu, Without giving his last name, uh, together, and uh it looked like in the Daily Mail picture that could very well be him.
	Did you see the Daily Mail picture?
	I I haven't seen it yet.
	You know, I mean I've I've heard some uh I would have support what the attacker looked like here, and I I gather it does say uh this is the same.
	Yes.
	Um again, this guy is on our speech often.
	He was openly uh preaching you know these sort of things.
	And we've recently in the UK had a crackdown on uh on their ability to talk to openly about and spread this hatred.
	Um, but for a while it was a very gray area, and unfortunately a lot of them were able to spout their their hatred openly.
	Well, it's interesting because I've had Anjam Chowdhury on my television program once even calling him an evil sick twisted son of a bitch, uh, based on his radical views, and it kind of went viral not only in the U.S. but also in the UK.
	Can you talk at all, Benjamin?
	I have discussed at great length the migrant problem, the refugee problem, not only in Great Britain, but France, as you mentioned, and Nice and and Belgium and Germany and the crime statistics that have been going through the roof.
	It's it parallels greatly with the debate in America about building a wall and extreme vetting of refugees.
	But one of the things that I think people are very surprised to hear is I know some people doubt the issue of no-go zones, for example, in your in France, but they do exist.
	I know they exist, and I've confirmed it with many people and other parts of Europe, but also the fact that Great Britain itself has eighty-three separate Sharia courts in the country.
	True or false.
	I I know I wouldn't know the number uh myself.
	I mean, I I I do know that they exist here.
	Uh and you're absolutely right.
	You know, many people, uh including those Brussels bombers from a year ago today, they came back in with the migrants law.
	And indeed, I was in Brussels soon after that, and uh I was in Molambeak, the area where many of them came from, uh, and it's considered the jihadi hotbed uh, you know, of Europe or one of them.
	And it's a big part of multiculturalism.
	For a long time, um, governments, including the UK and the French, said, you know, you're welcome to our shores.
	You don't need to integrate.
	In fact, we want you to keep your own identity, you want you to keep your religion, because it's so important.
	Well, what that did is it created huge divisions.
	It affects that we said, come to our country, but don't learn the language, don't embrace our values, and it has created areas um you know, from where many of these people come.
	I wonder if if with every new incident, if people don't become less if people don't become aware of the great cultural divide.
	Though look, Great Britain and the United States are great friends.
	We have an incredible history of friendship, and our relationship has been uh tremendous.
	And it's sad for as an American to see this happening to a friend of ours.
	It really is.
	It breaks my heart.
	Uh in New York where I'm from, I've experienced it on 9-11.
	We've seen it happen in Boston, we've seen it happen in Chattanooga, we've seen it happen in Fort Hood, we've seen it happen in in Orlando at the Pulse Nightclub and San Bernardino.
	You know, at some point we've got to ask the question is this clash of cultures if you grow up under Sharia law and men that grow up into that culture think they have the right to tell women how to dress, tell women whether they can travel, tell women they can't drive a car, when gays and lesbians are thrown off the tops of roofs and Christians and Jews are persecuted.
	You know, I think knowing whether or not that person is willing to take on the values of the country that they are honored to be allowed into is a legitimate question.
	Is that debate now going to get louder, you think, in Great Britain?
	Well, I mean, I I think I think that debate has been going on for some time.
	You just look at the Brexit results.
	That was in part driven by a desire to control other borders to stop the mass migration that might be going to our shores.
	So I think there's very much a sense of UK that people want to take back control of that.
	They want to maintain their identity, which many people did feel getting uh diluted, uh, if you will.
	And um, you know, so we're seeing that here.
	We are seeing it, you know, what we're seeing it potentially also in the elections coming up in France.
	Uh uh the Dutch elections didn't go uh uh builders didn't win never.
	We are seeing this in the cross, but it is a direct result of immigration.
	Not only the million who went in, you've got to be able to know who's coming into your country for safety.
	All right, Benjamin Hall, uh, thank you so much, my friend.
	I know this has been a tough day.
	Our thoughts and prayers to our friends in Great Britain.
	Thank you, sir.
	Uh let me play some of this Devin Nunez issue, because we're gonna get back to the issue of terror at the top of the next hour, Nigel Farage among our many guests.
	Um, but let me play some of what Nunia Is saying the Trump team conversations, including the President elect, caught in surveillance.
	Trump was right.
	The mainstream media wrong again.
	Listen.
	I recently confirmed that on numerous occasions, the intelligence community incidentally collected information about U.S. citizens involved in the Trump transition.
	Details about U.S. persons associated with the incoming administration, details with little or no apparent foreign intelligence value were widely disseminated in intelligence community reporting.
	Third, I have confirmed that additional names of Trump transition team members were unmasked.
	And fourth and finally, I want to be clear, none of this surveillance was related to Russia or the investigation of Russian activities or of the Trump team.
	From what I know right now, it looks like incidental collection.
	We don't know exactly how that was picked up.
	Um, but we're trying to get to the bottom of it.
	I believe it was all done legally.
	Um I think it was all obtained legally.
	It appears most of this occurred from what I've seen in November, December, and January.
	So that should probably during during the transition, that's correct.
	I have seen intelligence reports that uh clearly show uh that uh the president elect and his team uh were I guess it at least monitored and disseminated out in an intelligence reporting channels.
	Are you saying the surveillance, if it wasn't related to Russia or anything like that?
	Are you saying that it was political surveillance of political opponents as the president has suggested in his tweets?
	What uh what I've what I've read uh bothers me, and I think it should bother uh the president himself and his team, uh, because I don't I think some of it seems to be inappropriate.
	Unbelievable.
	We were right, Trump was right, Solomon and Carter were right, and the rest of the media wrong.
	One of our top stories today, the attack, the terrorist attack in Great Britain.
	We'll have more about this at the top of the next hour.
	We're also monitoring what is uh going on in terms of the health care vote.
	New Gingrich, we have also Freedom Caucus members all joining us.
	But we'll go back to London at the top of the hour.
	You want to stay with us.
	Three top stories.
	Terror strikes again, this time in London.
	We will go to London when we get back.
	Nigel Farage among our many guests.
	Also Raheem Kassam, who's the editor of Breitbart London.
	Philip Haney joins us.
	Now we've got Newt Gingrich weighing in, two Freedom Caucus members.
	Our other two stories is...
	Is Devin Nunez, the House Intelligence Committee Chairman, confirms surveillance of Donald Trump and Trump Towers.
	Donald Trump was right, and we'll update you with Freedom Caucus members on the health care bill.
	They are against it.
	Some 25 to more to 35.
	That's straight ahead as we continue from Chicago today.
	All right, glad you're with us.
	Uh hour two, Sean Hannity Show, toll-free telephone number.
	You want to be a part of the program, 800-941.
	At the top of the next hour, former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, will join us, and we will check in with members of the Freedom Caucus.
	Three big stories were following today.
	The health care vote, which of course expected to come tomorrow, but the Freedom Caucus says they are not on board, and they have the votes to block it.
	And in fact, they will unless specific changes are made.
	And we'll ask Jim Jordan and Dave Bratt about that uh coming up.
	Also, huge, huge news today.
	Surveillance of Trump Tower has in fact been confirmed.
	Uh, Devin Nunez, who is the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, confirming that earlier today.
	He also added one thing.
	I'm gonna play it now before we get back to our top story and head to London for the latest.
	And he said Obama cannot be ruled out.
	Listen to this.
	If President Obama ordered any kind of surveillance of the president, well, we don't know, we don't know who sent the taskings.
	Uh, if the taskings were changed into what went into these intelligence reports, uh, but we're gonna try to find that out.
	Are you move out the possibility that senior Obama is administration officials were involved in this?
	No one cannot.
	Wow.
	This is getting deeper and more complicated by the Minute, and we'll have a lot more on that throughout the program today.
	But the saddest story of the day, it is not a surprise, yet another terrorist attack, this time in London.
	And here are some of the sounds from throughout the day today.
	Colin, I'm joined now by Stephen Volk, who is on Westminster Bridge at the time this incident happened.
	Steve, take us through what you saw.
	Well, um, it's fairly busy, and I was just walking across the bridge when suddenly a bus stopped right in front of me, and everybody started screaming.
	Um, and I saw a trainer in the road, and first of all, I a trainer as in a shoe.
	A shoe, yeah.
	And I thought somebody must have been hit by a car, and then I saw a body on the other side of the road, and then there was another body further up, and then when I looked over the side of the bridge, there was another body lying in the water.
	Now, any indication as to what had caused those people to be injured?
	I mean, had you had you seen a car come through or anything.
	I didn't see anything.
	The first thing I was aware of was just people starting to scream, and people came off the bus looking very shocked.
	Um, and then everybody there was a lot of confusion, and people started dealing with uh with the casualties, and at that point I just tried to stop people coming onto the bridge because still a lot of people were coming on.
	Um how did you do that?
	How did you try and stop people from coming on the bridge?
	Just trying to wave them back and um you know, and I and I think people could tell because people were screaming that something something uh bad was happening.
	Forgive me, just to go back.
	Did you say a body in the water?
	Did you use it?
	Yes.
	So a body uh someone had fallen off the bridge.
	See, uh who knows, but it seemed that way.
	Yeah, and they were lying face down in the water.
	Okay.
	And then what happened after that?
	Uh after that, um there was a uh a kind of a pause, and and it seemed very confused for quite a long time.
	Uh, and then uh a medic arrived on um on a bike, and then ambulances arrived fairly quickly after that, and then the police started pouring onto the bridge, and at that point we walked, we walked people off the bridge and they put a tape around it.
	Did you hear noises that that sounded like gunshots?
	I didn't know.
	I heard afterwards I've heard people say that.
	I I didn't hear that.
	I just heard the screaming describe what you thought happened.
	We're just walking up to the station.
	And there was a loud bang, and the guy, someone crushed a car.
	And so I took some pedestrians out.
	And they were just laying there, and then the whole crowd just surged around the corner just by the gates, just opposite big band.
	And a guy came past my right shoulder with a big knife.
	I just started plunging it into the policeman.
	I just never seen anything on that.
	Just can't believe I just saw it.
	There was bodies, literally.
	Must have been that ten, ten but ten bodies.
	Ten or twelve bodies all in different lines in different places along the bridge.
	It was horrendous, yeah.
	Absolutely horrendous.
	And I saw a body on the other side of the road, and then there was another body further up, and then when I looked over the side of the bridge, there was another body lying in the water.
	I saw people lying on the floor that was injured.
	Um maybe.
	I walked out to go to the university, and someone my age goes to me and says there's been a terrorist attack on the bridge.
	I ran over, uh, walked up to the bridge, so they wanted to know what had happened, and um fortunately scenes were pretty terrible.
	I saw three to four people roughly who had been hit by a car.
	I didn't see anything.
	The first thing I was aware of was just people starting to scream, and people came off the bus looking very shocked.
	Um, and then everybody there was a lot of confusion, and people started dealing with uh with the casualties.
	Terror at the UK Parliament, Westminster Bridge.
	You heard some of the sights and sounds and eyewitnesses there.
	We now have confirmed four dead, four people dead, including the cop as the perpetrator of this crime used this seven to eight inch knife.
	You heard the one eye witness watching it being pounded into the police officer.
	Uh why some of these officers in London are not armed, is is beyond any understanding that I possibly can have in my life.
	The Prime Minister of Great Britain was only forty yards from the attack uh in the Parliament and ended up getting out safely.
	Others now they're still on lockdown as I understand it.
	This, by the way, probably not a coincidence, the anniversary of the Brussels massacre.
	We know That ISIS has been celebrating ever since the attack, blood for blood.
	Uh Drudge had an interesting flashback today, and that is that you're going to see the black flag of Sharia over Windsor Castle.
	And uh apparently now we have a new development.
	Police are scrambling to the South London tube or the train system, if you will, that they have there.
	Just to give you a little bit of a timeline, local time, which is uh, you know, London time, 240 Eastern uh 240 London time.
	Police were called to Westminster Bridge, reports that a car had been mowing down people, at least 20 plus people injured, many severely now, and then reports emerging of what sounded like a shooting that was not confirmed.
	And uh then as things went on, it looked they initially thought it was a firearms incident, and it turned out to be very different.
	A major a major security alert for the police of Westminster and a man carrying a knife charged through the gates in the front yard of the parliamentary compound.
	It's believed the same guy that mowed down those people on the car in Westminster Bridge, which is right next to and adjacent to the UK Parliament.
	Anyway, joining us now with uh full coverage of this.
	We're going back to London, and we really uh appreciate everyone taking time out of the very busy day.
	Rahim Kassam is the editor of Breitbart London, Nigel Perraj, UK Independence Party member of the European Parliament for Southeast of England, and he was, of course, the campaign leader for the Brexit movement.
	Phil Haney, a founding member of our Department of Homeland Security, author of the book See Something and Say Nothing.
	And uh again, I say to Nigel and uh Raheem, our thoughts and prayers go out to you and the people of Great Britain.
	Raheem, uh, what are you hearing on your end?
	I I've seen a name a number of times.
	Now I'm seeing conflicting reports about that name.
	What do you know?
	Well, uh, thanks, Sean, for the kind wishes and and you know, of course, all of our thoughts are with the people who have been affected, and indeed the the courageousness of the police, how quickly they were deployed and how quickly they secured the area after this terrorist incident this afternoon.
	As you say, 240 this afternoon, a man crashed the car into the uh into the railings outside the House of Parliament, having mowed down uh uh uh a couple of dozen people, it looks like outside on the Westminster Bridge.
	Um, what we're hearing now uh is speculation, of course, uh, over different tube stations, the underground system in the United Kingdom, of course, very famous, different tubes uh stations being closed, being scoured uh for potential devices or potential people that they might be looking for in connection with this,
	and you're correct to say that the uh the left wing Channel 4 uh uh uh broadcasting agency in the United Kingdom were quick to put out a name of a person who they claimed was responsible for this attack earlier on today.
	Uh that fueled a lot of speculation out there, and a lot of people ended up reporting this person's name.
	However, we now know from his solicitor and his brother that this person who was charged with terrorism a couple of years ago.
	He was in jail, right?
	In prison, he remains in prison uh according to his solicitor and his brother.
	So it just goes to show that actually when you hear about these people jumping on these attacks, when you hear about the whole fake news saga, this has come from a left-wing news outlet in the UK uh and they're now having to row it back.
	And I think they they they they've really embarrassed themselves over this, especially at a time where people are so concerned uh with the safety of the city.
	Well, you know, I'm just you know, my normal instincts is to ignore, you know, and I purposely didn't mention the guy's name, only a first name, which is actually very common, and I'm like, do you th and I was asking the question of somebody do you think it could be that person?
	Are you hearing it's that person?
	Uh you know, Phil Haney, you are a founding member of the DSS, uh DHS.
	You had a list of names.
	You believe that when you were when Barack Obama became president, you were forced to get rid of all of those names.
	None of this, I'm sure would happen today surprises you in any way, does it?
	No, in fact, I uh went right back to my active duty mode.
	I scoured through the resources that were available and then did an analysis of the uh photographs that were put online by the guardian.
	In my immediate conclusions, we call them indicators.
	It's not necessarily proven derogatory information.
	However, they are indicators, and what I saw from my first level analysis of the suspect when the pictures posted in the Guardian, is that he was likely a Salafi Muslim because of his facial his beard, that he was probably not a new immigrant.
	Philip, can I just confirm I want to interrupt you?
	I want to hear all this but you mean the picture in the I saw the same picture in the Guardian so you can make an analysis based on that picture.
	So go explain that to people and if they want to look at the Daily Mail or the Guardian they can.
	The first thing I looked at is the big picture, indicators, and I never make an assumption or a decision on only one picture.
	There were two pictures that were shown immediately after the man was down and then post-inspection.
	They did a strip search on him, and I made sure that all the people that were in the two pictures were the same and other physical indicators, and then I looked at the individual himself.
	And by the indicators, first of all his facial hair, Salafi Muslims often shaved the mustache area of their beard.
	Also, I noticed that he was probably not a new immigrant.
	by his body the way his body looked and the third is that it was probably from the in Indian subcontinent just because of other physical indicators.
	Again they're indicators not proven derogatory information but if I was an active duty law enforcement officer working on that case you know on the ground as a subject matter expert in counterterrorism those would be my first indicators of the likely nature of the suspect involved in the attack.
	You know I really I I understand exactly what you're saying.
	This is uh so important that you're able to do this I mean I've always admired your work.
	Nigel Farage, let me ask you first.
	Well, hang on.
	We got to take a break here.
	Let me let me take this break and we'll get to Nigel Farage, good friend of the program.
	And Nigel, I guess you got on late.
	Our thoughts and prayers go to you and all our friends in Great Britain.
	And we'll get your take on this.
	We're going to do this with Phil Haney, Philip Haney and Raheem Kassam and Nigel Farage for the full hour.
	And we'll have Newt Gingrich.
	And we'll also have two members of the Freedom Caucus.
	Two other stories we're following beyond the London terror attack today.
	And that is Devin Nunes confirming, yes, there was surveillance on Donald Trump, at least in November.
	November, December and January.
	Trump was right Sean Hannity was right Breitbart was right.
	Sarah Carter, John Solomon were right and the rest of the media was wrong.
	And then of course we are following and monitoring the vote that will take place tomorrow on repealing and replacing Obamacare and we have two Freedom Caucus members that will join us Jim Jordan and Dave Bratt.
	As we roll along Sean Hannity show we are in Chicago today three big stories the terror attack at the UK Parliament and Westminster Bridge that's our top story.
	Devin Nunez the House Intelligence Committee chairman confirming yes Donald Trump surveillance of Trump Tower and the president in November, December and January.
	That means all the media wrong and the lead up to the health care vote tomorrow and we continue with Philipaney Rahim Kassan and Nigel Farage is uh now joining us.
	Nigel our thoughts and prayers are with our friends in in Great Britain you know that my friend Yes no thank you it's been a horrible day um it has been ten years since we had a terrorist attack in London we all knew uh that it was coming and whilst as yet the correct identity of the perpetrator is not being revealed I don't think it's a coincidence that it's exactly one year ago today that there were bombs on the underground system in Brussels and over thirty people killed.
	Yeah so you think it it could be related because of the anniversary of that well it's certainly a fact um that some of these extreme terror organizations do like to go for anniversaries.
	I don't think it's a coincidence.
	We'll have to see the truth will come out but I think we all know uh what the likely source of this is don't we?
	Well we we are ever so vigilant I can tell you usually as you know 9-11 2001 and uh so we've got a we're vigilant on on a whole variety of days ourselves.
	Raheem what do you know about the people there was a report that uh apparently it's hundreds of tourists on London's four hundred and fifty foot ferris wheel which I assume is on Westminster Bridge or adjacent to it were caught on the Ferris wheel at the time and watching this terror unfold before their eyes.
	Yeah I mean you can only imagine how these people must have felt being suspended uh in these glass cubicles of the London eye uh for hours on end uh with a direct line of sight uh to Westminster Bridge and and and and the and the destruction that was going on there and not being able to sort of be told accurately what was going on, whether they were safe or not.
	I mean, this is how people felt all across Westminster today.
	You had members of our Parliament who were stuck inside the Commons Chamber when it was on lockdown.
	You had people stuck inside Westminster Abbey, and I think Nigel's absolutely correct.
	I don't think this is necessarily coincidental that this happened, and it's not coincidental, uh not least because we've seen how much the automobile is now becoming the weapon of choice for Islamist killers.
	People like you and I for a very many years have warned about these tactics being used against our Israeli friends.
	A hundred percent.
	Stay right there.
	We'll continue more with Raheem Kassam, Philipaney, Nigel Farage, New Gingrich is coming up, and two Freedom Caucus members.
	We got a lot of news.
	Busy News Day, sad news in London.
	All right, 25 till the top of the hour in Chicago today, AM five sixty, the answer.
	And uh I gotta tell you we got three top stories we're following.
	One, the confirmation by Devin Nunez, House Intelligence Committee Chair, Donald Trump as President elect in November, December, and January was surveilled by intelligent the intelligence community.
	He was right.
	What did what did Obama know when did he know it?
	Our second big story, the health care vote tomorrow.
	We've got New King Rich Freedom Caucus members joining us in the next hour.
	But we continue with Nigel Farage, who has to run in a minute, and Philip Haney and Rahim Kassama's with us.
	Nigel, uh, I want to get your final thoughts on this.
	You know, one of the big issues you and I have discussed privately and we have discussed on the air, and that is the Islamization of Europe and how this also impacts America's decisions on extreme vetting of refugees that may not want to assimilate and and hold on to Western values, and of course, border security in the case of America.
	But my observation is the Islamization of Europe and the migrant problem and the refugee problem has has now added significantly to the danger of everybody in Europe.
	Am I wrong?
	Well we're looking at about two point five million people that have come into the European Union over the course of the last couple of years, and of course they've done so because Mrs. Merkel said as many of you as want to come can come.
	We've not been able to vet any of them.
	Uh and of course ISIS themselves have said that they would use that tide of people to put their own terrorist operatives into Europe.
	So goodness knows how many potential terrorists there are now living in Germany, Belgium, France, and elsewhere.
	Um the big take out for today, I think, is that when Donald Trump tries to do things as the American president to try and make your country safer, all we see of people protesting in Fifth Avenue and screaming and shouting with indignation.
	I would say to those people, wake up, let your president make your country safer.
	You do not want to guess like much of Europe.
	Very well said.
	Nigel, again, our thoughts and prayers go out to our friends at the UK in the UK.
	Thank you, my friend.
	Thank you.
	Uh I I want to go back to Rahim Qassam, who's the editor of Breitbart London.
	You know, this is the main question we've been asking, though, is how do you how do you possibly vet somebody's heart?
	How do you possibly know what their motivation is?
	Also, when you factor in that ISIS, all these radical Islamic terror groups, and even those that made comments and and promises that the flag of Sharia will fly over Windsor Castle.
	Um you can you never really will know, do will we?
	About people that come into your country.
	No, we won't know, and and we have to take it on what they say.
	They've been saying what they've wanted for years, not least uh the Islamic black flag flying over Windsor Castle, but they have been very clear about the radicalizing people in prisons in schools.
	Uh these aren't things that are new to us.
	It has just been a lack of political will uh that has led us to this position.
	I just got back from uh a lot of the no-go zones across Europe where they ghettoize these people and create the perfect conditions for radicalization in these areas.
	And what is our response?
	What was our response last year in Brussels to this day when there was the Brussels attack?
	Teddy bears, tears, candles, cartoons, murals, mosaics, flowers, flags, projections, hashtags, balloons, wreaths, vigils, lights, scarves, this seems to be the best that Western civilization can now muster in order to defend ourselves.
	Well I'll say this, and I won't be uh beat around the bush in saying it somebody needs to get a grip on this situation and get a grip suit.
	We've seen now what it's led to in terms of political uprisings across the European continent.
	We've seen what it's led to here in the United States.
	But let me echo what Nigel said, but give a warning to this administration as well.
	You were this president was elected on the basis of making America safe.
	And if there is any equivocation over that, if they bowed down to political correctness in the slightest, and something happens like that over here in the United States again, I don't think anybody will forgive them.
	I I honestly I've been using the phrase they will have blood on their hands.
	You know, Philip Haney, I have come to admire so much about you and as one of the founding Department of Homeland Security members and somebody that really fundamentally is devoted now many decades of your life dealing with this issue.
	Um I just count on you as a go-to person in times of trouble like this.
	And I don't know if there is an answer to vetting.
	I I I do support the president's extreme vetting, but I don't know if real vetting is even possible.
	Am I wrong in that conclusion?
	Well, not in if you're going to rely on information from these six core countries that we keep hearing about.
	We just had a conversation with a person, an American on the ground in one of the Middle Eastern countries, and he specifically noted that it's literally impossible to vet individuals because we don't have the technology or the backup uh, you know, paper records within the government to verify who they are.
	And even if we were able to verify them, they're related to other individuals who may be affiliated with terrorism who will pose a threat either to them directly or to their family.
	Can I go back to the indicators for a minute?
	Yeah, please.
	Ver I would really appreciate you do.
	There are two classes of indicators.
	There are the actual ID of the individual, which we talked about a few minutes ago, and they're also the methods, because these kind of attacks tend to follow a pattern that has been laid down by previous attackers.
	So one of the classes of uh what we call first level analysis are the methods.
	And in this case, it's a classic uh pattern of using a car, as your earlier guests said, and a knife.
	They he drove right across the bridge.
	It's obvious from the pictures that the car had no intention to stop.
	In other words, he was literally trying to crash right through the gate, just like the Beirut bombings back with the marine barracks, the same thing, to crash through, survive it, come out and attack as many people as possible.
	So if you combine those two areas of indicators, the actual person and the methods use, you can begin to put a premise together.
	And why is this all important?
	Because first of all, from a cop's perspective, we don't know how many people are involved in the attack.
	In order to narrow down the arena of operation, we have to be able to determine what likely kind of people would be affiliated with the known attacker.
	And that is the reason why we focus on the idea, identity of the individual as soon as possible.
	We don't even have to know his name necessarily.
	We have other indicators, as I've already discussed with you, that combine together, allow us to devent, develop a case, and then we move forward from there.
	Mr. Haney, I I honestly mean this with all my heart.
	We we have to get you in touch with the president and his national security team and the Department of Homeland Security.
	Your country really could use your professional expertise in in keeping this country s safe, and I I appreciate all the knowledge you always share.
	Rahim, I want to go back to you specifically about Great Britain, about Europe in particular.
	Uh you have told me on this program Before that you were raised Muslim.
	And we have we have gone into deep detail about the fact that in spite of media reluctance to acknowledge a simple truth that no go zones exist in Europe, they do exist.
	Number one, and number two, if you look at, for example, assimilation and some of these other issues, that is not happening as evidenced by the eighty-three plus Sharia courts that exist in Great Britain, right?
	Right.
	I mean, you your listeners will remember just a few weeks ago when your president made a statement about what was going on in Sweden.
	He was attacked by the Swedish political establishment, the European political establishment, the British political establishment, the U.S. political establishment, the media establishment all across the board.
	And the very next day, we saw the most heinous images and videos coming out of one of the suburbs of Stockholm showing a mass uh migrant background person riot, uh forty odd people burning the cars, so on and so forth.
	I went to these places.
	I went to Rinkeby, I went to Husby, I've been to Molenbeck a number of times.
	I went to the suburbs of Paris.
	I've seen these places for myself.
	What we have to get around here is the semantic factor.
	What the left want to try and do is is is use semantics against us to say, oh, well, you clearly went there, so they can't be a no-go zone.
	And I say in return, okay, fine, put on a police uniform and go there by yourself.
	Anytime after after dusk, see what happens to you.
	Put on an ambulance uniform and do the same.
	Be a local politician and do it.
	Try being a a young Western woman with blonde hair.
	Walk through there with a knee-length skirt on.
	You cannot.
	And if you do, you're taking your life into your own hands.
	The assimilation isn't working for a very simple reason, Sean.
	In all of these places, all across Europe, the left finds it politically expedient to to bundle all these people together in in housing blocks in tenements, so that they get them to vote en masse for them.
	There's no sign of any wider in integration with society.
	They have big satellite dishes on the outsiders of their houses because they want to receive foreign language television.
	And the state says two thumbs up, that's fine by us.
	Well, what you can see happening here is the perfect Petri dish conditions for radicalization happening.
	And that is not to say that every single person in these no-go zones will become a radicalized Muslim, but it is to say that you are allowing the conditions to foment.
	And like you said, Sean, these people who have done this, these socialist parties, the center left parties, these establishment parties, they all have blood on their hands every single time an incident like this happens.
	It's it's really pathetically sad, and you know, I kept asking the question and ask it today, and I've asked it on television, and I ask it and I I bring it up in commentary all the time, that you know, we're really talking about a very simple choice here, and that is the inconvenience of people that would like to visit our country versus gambling with the lives of the American people.
	Philippine is when you when you look at the extreme vetting issue, doesn't that c doesn't it come down to those simple choices?
	Well, when I was active duty, I interviewed hundreds of people from all over the world.
	The main problem that we're looking at is the fact that these core countries that we keep hearing about, except for Iran, which is the state sponsor of terrorism, don't have functioning governments.
	Why should we be expected to trust any information coming from a place that's ruled by violence and anarchy?
	And until we can determine that the information that these individuals passport documents and visas and so on is really accurate, then why should we take any risk at all?
	We should err on the side of caution until we're able to verify its true identity.
	That's the simple part of sovereignty.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and that's all Donald Trump wants to do.
	Uh listen, I want to thank you both.
	I know uh we got you both short notice here.
	Philip uh Haney, Rahim Kassan, and and we just let go of Nigel Farage.
	Thank you all for being with us.
	Uh, we're following two other stories, and that is Devin Nunes, House Intelligence Committee Chairman, confirming surveillance of Trump Tower, can also surveillance of calls with the president elect in November, December, and January.
	And then we only have the Democratic ranking Member Adam Schiff whining, well, he didn't tell us yet, and that doesn't mean that uh Obama ordered it.
	Okay, why were they surveilling the incoming president?
	A lot of questions need to be answered.
	But the me media, alt-left propaganda destroy Trump media is wrong again.
	Again.
	Anyway, uh let's get to our busy telephones here as we say hi to Lisa in Alaska.
	Hey Lisa, how are you?
	I'm doing pretty good, Sean.
	How are you?
	Welcome to Chicago, the windy city.
	What's going on?
	Well, I just wanted to say that M's really need to prove that Trump and Russia have colluded because one of the main reasons that I voted for him and probably a lot of other people was because he wasn't owned by special interests.
	Yeah, pretty pretty unprecedented, isn't it?
	And pretty unprecedented that you know what happened to Michael Flynn.
	These are called felonies if they did it, you know, and and the fact that they're revealing these names, that too is not supposed to happen.
	I mean, every single protection, Fourth Amendment, Fifth Amendment, Sixth Amendment, First Amendment, Fourth, Sixth, they're all violated here because these are unwarranted searches.
	And this is getting this is gonna end up being a much bigger story, and I predict the news media is gonna have so much egg on their face by the time this is all said and done.
	I'll give you the last word.
	ahead now I just think that they needed they need to really gear up for the next election because they've got to find a candidate that can can say I'm not owned by this corporation or that corporation that gave me money for my campaign Very well said, Lisa.
	Thank you in Alaska.
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	All right, the news roundup information overload hour.
	We start with former Speaker of the House New King, Rich.
	He'll weigh in on today's terror attacks in London, terror attacks.
	Well, there really were two separate incidents by the same person, but uh one on Westminster Bridge and of course the UK Parliament.
	We're following the Devin Nunez revelation today that there was surveillance on the President elect himself and on Trump Tower.
	And then our third story, we're monitoring and following what's happening in the lead up to tomorrow's vote in the House of Representatives to repeal and replace Obamacare.
	The Freedom Caucus says they have enough votes to stop it, and as of now, they are voting nay against the bill.
	Also coming up in the final hour of our program today.
	Uh as we continue from Chicago, many thanks to our affiliate here, AM560, the answer.
	All right, news roundup and information overload.
	Obviously, we continue with our top story today, and that is the attack at the UK Parliament.
	And you have uh what, two people killed, cop stabbed more than dozens uh uh dozens injured in this attack, and we're getting the very latest information to you as it comes into the uh newsroom here at the Sean Hannity Show.
	Also, the House Freedom Caucus will have two members at the bottom of this hour.
	We'll have Jim Jordan and Dave Bratt.
	They are saying, as of right now, that in fact they do not have the votes to pass the health care repeal replace bill tomorrow.
	They have specific objections.
	They'll tell us all about it at the bottom of the hour.
	Also another big blockbuster from my perspective, and that is the comments of the House Intelligence Committee Chairman, Devin Nunez saying that yes, in fact, that the Trump that Donald Trump and Trump Tower and his transition team that they were in fact surveilled at least post in November, December, and January, post-election.
	Now remember, we have been confirming this now for two weeks with Sarah Carter and John Solomon and everybody else in the media has had it wrong.
	And now we have to ask was the FBI director, director parsing his words earlier this week.
	Well, there's no wiretapping.
	All right, what's the difference between wiretapping and surveillance?
	And something we will be getting to the bottom of, probably more tomorrow in this program, although of course the health care vote is scheduled tomorrow.
	Former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich is with us on this very busy news day.
	Mr. Speaker, you know, I I had you on this program on 911.
	I've had you on this program on other news days when in fact another terror attack has taken place.
	Here we have it in London.
	I've been giving out crime statistics since the migration of people uh from countries like Syria and elsewhere has been have been absorbed into the the European population.
	We talk about the Islamization of Europe, and then we have a debate in this country about building walls and vetting refugees.
	Do you see it all interconnected here?
	Well, sure.
	Look, it's all the same crisis.
	You have people who want to destroy Western civilization, people who want to impose their values and their way of life, and they're prepared to kill to do it.
	And uh we see this, you know, all across the world.
	It's a really, really deep problem.
	And uh I think that we have to confront the fact that this is not going to go away.
	We can talk about ISIS, but ISIS is one tiny piece of a worldwide problem, and we're going to ultimately have to have a grand strategy to defeat the worldwide movement as well as to defeat components of it, whether they're in Syria or Iraq or Afghanistan or what have you.
	I also think it's very important to recognize that um we in the United States have every right to defend ourselves.
	I'm I'm stunned when people explain to me uh for this judge, for example, in Hawaii, that we so have somehow owe it to the entire planet um to allow them to come here as long as anybody from their country is here.
	I mean, this is a sort of of invitation to a disaster that you would think responsible people would never engage in, and it tells you how bad uh some elements of our left are.
	That they they they don't no matter how many attacks you see, they don't seem to get it.
	It's so sad.
	I mean, you know, Boston Marathon, you know, of all the talk about Russia, the Russians warned us about the S uh Sarnev brothers in that case, and we didn't listen to them.
	Then you have Chattanooga, then you have Fort Hood, workplace violence, of course, then the Pulse Nightclub in Orlando, San Bernardino, and all over Europe, from Germany to France to Great Britain to Belgium and all throughout Europe.
	It has the crime statistics have more than doubled almost everywhere.
	And America is on the precipice and and in the Obama years was making these same mistakes as Europe has made over the years.
	And look at look at how difficult it is for the president, even though though he has the statutory authority and the authority is commander in chief to protect the country, you know, well, then the liberals just go judge shopping in Hawaii or Washington, knowing that it's then gonna be appealed to the Ninth Circuit, which is the most over one of the most overturned courts in the country, and then we have to push it all the way to the Supreme Court.
	In the meantime, thousands of people come in unvetted into the country.
	So, I mean, it it seems to me that you've got and then but we need to understand this.
	There are people placed in the government, and this is one of the places where the Trump team has got to get to be much more aggressive and I think much more determined.
	There are folks who permeate this government, who believe in exactly the things Donald Trump is opposed to, and who believe in uh putting Americans at risk rather than being honest about the dangers in the world.
	And these folks gonna have to be rooted out and and dismissed.
	And I think uh we uh we underestimate, and this of course is part of what I think this this shocking news story, which I frankly only saw in the last ten minutes, that the head of the intelligence committee in the House is now saying that in fact Trump uh was part of a collection uh process and what was under surveillance.
	Um I mean, you have to say to yourself, what the devil is going on when the FBI director gets up, the head of the National Security Agency gets up and and tells us things that are apparently f either they're ignorant or lying.
	Uh and how does this I mean, how does the system get so totally out of control?
	And this is all part of the same problem.
	You have generals and and and ambassadors and people who over the last eight years have been told by Obama and his team, you will never say the words um you know, radical Islamic terror, or you will be kicked out of the service or kicked out of the f out of the State Department.
	So they've all learned this this mind-numbing language, and they've all learned how to sort of say things very carefully and make sure you don't hurt anybody's feelings.
	Meanwhile, as you're pointing out, you have people getting killed in London.
	Uh we we now discover, uh, as has happened often in the last couple of years, that Donald Trump's tweets may have been accurate, and all of the attacks of the New York Times and the Washington Post and the news media and the Democrats May turn out to be false.
	Mr. Mr. Speaker, for for for ten for two weeks now straight, I have been putting on radio and television, John Solomon, a twenty year vet with the AP, Sarah Carter, twenty year foreign uh foreign investigative journalist uh on this program, that we have been telling everybody that there were two specific warrants issued, one a Pfizer warrant, one a regular warrant.
	In fact, we knew this surveillance took place.
	We also knew that surveillance of Trump's um server w took place in Trump Tower, and we've been reporting all of this.
	Everybody in the media has been wrong.
	Donald Trump, okay, maybe he used the word wiretap, but it really was surveillance.
	Now we're parsing, and now we're splitting hairs.
	I have to tell you, you know, I'm reasonably bright, and I used to be on the gang of eight looking at secrets.
	I don't know that I would know the difference between wiretap and surveillance.
	I mean, I think somebody walks in and says, Well, we didn't technically wiretap you because you know your cell phone doesn't have a wire.
	I mean, that's the person you just want to punch in the head.
	Um that's good that's goofy.
	Well, I I uh i it is but when the House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Unions is now confirming that the what he's calling it incidental collection of communications.
	Now, there's very specific we have the espionage act, there's very specific language that says if an American is picked up in the process of surveilling, say, a foreign target or an ambassador or let's say Vladimir Putin, because everyone's obsessed with Russia, and they notice an American is on the call, they are supposed to minimize their listening, number one, of who the American is.
	Number two, standard practice is that when they write up a report that you don't name who the American was.
	You just say an American.
	And the third thing is is it's never supposed to be leaked.
	And where the Solomon Carter investigation seems to be leading us to is that not only was part of this political, the entire narrative that Russia and the Trump campaign colluded, even though there's not been one shred of evidence that the media's been running with now for eight months,
	but on top of that, that in fact that in every single case, it seems to be that only a top security clearance individual could have known the things that are being leaked.
	That's problematic.
	By the way, it also makes me wonder though, how how does Trump know all this?
	I mean, he's somehow he somehow, I don't know if he gets it just by intuition or if he has a source, but he somehow weeks ago was ahead of everybody.
	They all ridiculed him and attacked him.
	They're still doing it.
	But if it turns out now that he was totally right and they were wrong, I mean, I think that'll be just an amazing turnaround.
	Uh and and one that we ought to really think about how to drive home for the country.
	But here you have the entire elite media, all the Democrats, some of the Republicans, and the civil service all chanting, why is he doing this?
	And it turns out, well, he's doing it because he's right.
	Uh that's that is amazing.
	This that that is going to be the way it turns out, and I actually think it's gonna backfire even further.
	I think by the time we get to the end of this story, you're going to see a political you're gonna see a political quotient involved here at a very, very high level.
	That's my that's my bet on this.
	And don't bet against me, I'm often right.
	All right.
	More importantly, so at the bottom of this half hour, we have two Freedom Caucus members, Jim Jordan and Dave Bratt, and they are steadfast.
	They have been meeting, not with the leadership in Congress.
	They have they have pretty much ignored the Freedom Caucus.
	They have the votes, they've told me, and they even have built a hidden cushion, I've been told, that they will stop this bill tomorrow, and that they've heard very little to nothing from leadership.
	Donald Trump and Mike Pence have reached out to them continuously throughout the process, and that they're gonna vote against it unless they get a few specific changes.
	This is I don't understand where we are, and I've you know, as you know, I used to be the Republican whip, and after that I was a Republican speaker.
	Um it will be a major mistake for Speaker Ryan to bring a bill to the floor if he doesn't have the votes.
	Uh we the last thing you want to do to a brand new president is march him up the hill and have him lose and then have to march back down again.
	My question is why don't why aren't they well I gotta take a break here hang on one second.
	We'll come right back and I'll pick that up.
	And as we continue we're in Chicago today at AM 560 the answer and our many thanks to our affiliate here for all their hospitality 800 nine four one Sean Toprey telephone number at the bottom of the arrow we have two Freedom Caucus members.
	Freedom Caucus saying they do not have a deal and they do have the votes to stop the health care bill from passing tomorrow one of our top three stories today obviously the terror attack we're monitoring the very latest out of London and Devin Nunez the House uh intelligence committee chairman confirming that yes Donald Trump was surveilled in November, December and January the media's been wrong.
	All right Mr. Speaker you are saying that if in fact the Freedom Caucus and again they complain that the leadership barely reached out to them during this process that if he they don't have the votes tomorrow and they risk a loss on this vote that they shouldn't bring it to the floor why don't they just reach out to the Freedom Caucus and give them the three things that they want right now and get it done.
	They're gonna have to bring it to the floor sooner or later I mean you know the the I I am I do not understand um why people haven't sat in a room and worked out an amendment um that would guarantee passage of the bill they're very close um the and the folks and and and I just checked this morning and know that uh the leader of the Freedom Caucus wants to vote yes.
	I mean, now these guys want to stop Donald Trump, and they're very frustrated.
	And so, to be honest, I don't understand why they're where they are.
	If, in fact, Speaker Ryan has the votes, that's fine.
	But it struck me that there's a little bit of a gamble going on here, and I don't think it's right to put the president in a position where he risked a loss at the very beginning of his presidency.
	This is fixable.
	And frankly, at least one of the avenues been told at least one of the things the argument is well it won't get through center reconciliation it doesn't matter that's the Senate's problem that's not the House's problem um if they have if there's something that they can do that will allow the Freedom Caucus to feel in good conscience that they can vote yes the fact that Mitch McConnell can't build in the Senate is Mitch's problem.
	He'll fix it now when you get to conference you're in a different place.
	But they now know where their problems are and by the time they get to conference they'll have had weeks to sort this out and and figure out what is a conference bill that can pass the House and the Senate.
	I'm I am really perplexed that that we don't see more flexibility right now uh on on just getting something to 21 votes.
	And by the way I've always felt like you need to be a 219 or two twenty just because you know somebody may not quite keep their word.
	Yep.
	Yep well uh I got to tell you something from my perspective I would have worked with those guys from the beginning because they have the support of a lot of people and I and I give all the president credit.
	You know when I asked Mark Meadows I said well what's it been like negotiating with the president what's it been like negotiating with with the leadership in the House well he said Trump gets an A plus plus plus he said well the House never contacts us the House leadership.
	Isn't that bizarre?
	I mean that well it doesn't make sense to me it's not the way I think that it works in the long run.
	My model's always been listen, learn, help and lead and I think you have to approach it from that standpoint.
	And um I think that if you don't listen and learn it's very hard in a free society to leave.
	It's just a practical reality.
	All right Mr Speaker you're gonna join us tonight we have all these stories breaking we'll have the latest obviously out of London we'll talk about Devin Nunez's comments that yes Donald Trump was surveilled by who why we'll get maybe have more details by then it's gonna be an amazing show tonight because uh you have so many things moving in parallel that are real right now right this minute.
	Yeah and of course the health care bill all right Mr. Speaker as always thanks for being with us.
	When we come back we do have two members of the Freedom Caucus what would it take for them to get on board and how United are they against the bill if they don't get the things they're asking for.
	We'll get that next, and we'll continue to monitor the events out of London and much more here on The Sean Hannity Show.
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	We continue to monitor and follow all the breaking news that is out of London.
	Another terror attack shouldn't shock anybody.
	And uh we will have full coverage tonight, a live Hannity as we uh continue uh our coverage here on the radio program today.
	But there is so much other breaking news out there that we've got to pay attention to.
	Now, of course, we're expecting a House vote tomorrow on this health care repeal and replace bill.
	Sean Spicer commented on this at his presser earlier today, and here is what he said or this actually was yesterday.
	Um Sean, is the president gonna hold Republicans who vote against health care?
	I think they vote against this bill.
	I think they'll probably pay a price at home.
	Um meaning I think that you can't go promise over and over again since 2010 in the case of the members been there that long, but at least for those who have been there that long, and at least and and even the new ones, this was a major component of the last election.
	And I think there is probably not a single Republican member in itself who went out and talked about this.
	And I think when you realize the component to this bill, and that the president worked with the House and the Senate to put something together to achieve a promise that was made to voters.
	Yeah, I think there's gonna be a price to be paid, but it's gonna be with their own voters, and they're gonna have to go back and explain to them why they made a commitment to them and then didn't follow through.
	And one of the things that's interesting that people who agree or don't agree with the president in terms of its legislative agenda, at least give them high marks, regardless of whether or not they subscribe to his his agenda for keeping his word and his promises.
	And I think that's one of the things that he's made very clear this morning.
	We pledge to the American people at the Congressional level, at the Senate level, at the federal at the at the presidential level, to go do something.
	And this bill, um, while it probably not everybody gets everything they wanted, does exactly what we said.
	It's repealing it and replacing it with all of the principles and the aspects that we discussed throughout not only last cycle, but in a lot of these cases back through 2010.
	If we go out there and make these pledges to the American people and don't do what we said we've done on these big things, then I don't think they're gonna continue to want to see us in the majority, and they're gonna look for an alternative.
	Will he uh remember the names of those who don't back the government?
	We'll see.
	All right.
	Then, of course, the president said yesterday, now this was before the meeting that took place earlier today with some of the members of the Freedom Caucus, and this was his response yesterday.
	We had a great meeting, and I think we're gonna get a winner vote.
	We're gonna have a real winner.
	It was a great meeting.
	They're terrific people.
	They want a tremendous health care plan.
	That's what we have.
	And they're going to be adjustments made.
	But I think we'll get the vote on Thursday.
	Now the gap has been closed for sure, but as of now, the Freedom Caucus members are not voting for this bill.
	Uh, there are two specific issues that they are demanding for their support, or else they don't think they can support it.
	And and as a block, they have enough votes to make it that this bill's not gonna pass.
	Anyway, the they want the repeal of the Obamacare mandates and the essential health benefits, and the rest they think they can live with at this time anyway.
	And again, it's gonna be a much longer process, I think that anybody knows.
	Anyway, Congressman Jim Jordan and Congressman Dave Bratt join us now, both Freedom Caucus members.
	Uh gentlemen, welcome back to the program.
	Before I get to health care, your reaction, you know, here you know, we talk so much about building a wall and vetting refugees.
	And we turn around again, and you see this this terror attack in London today, and it just breaks your heart.
	But what does America have to learn from it?
	Congressman Jordan.
	Yes, and I obviously we're ha scalats the folks in Great Britain.
	Um but you're right, it's a dangerous world and it's it's one of the key issues.
	It it's the issue that's most important for the federal government.
	It's the one that's constitutionally that you know perspoke with national security and making sure our nation is secured and the president's been strong on this, and it's why we have to secure the southern border.
	Um this is this is a big big part of that.
	So um but I'm not gonna keep up on on on all the news.
	Well, we've been following the you know, I've been giving out all the crime statistics in Germany and all throughout Europe that have gone up dramatically since they've had this influx of of migrants into the country, and there's not any vetting that's taking place there.
	And you'd have to be pretty dumb, I think, Congressman Brad, to believe we could do the same thing Europe has been doing and expect a a different result.
	No, I mean this is uh we've all been talking about this for years, and I mean it it is uh ironic, right?
	The left, there are failed states all through the Middle East, etc.
	going through North Africa, and whatever that where these folks are coming in, the terrorists are trained, and it it really does go back to the fundamentals that the Liberals have always been talking about, right?
	These are failed states in poverty.
	Well, guess how you fix that?
	You fix it with free markets and capitalism and business.
	So the only answer for these failed states to make their people successful, the left, of course, is opposed to it.
	Bernie and Elizabeth Warren, etc.
	And so it's the irony of ironies, right?
	That we're trying to help these people in these countries to develop that will end this spiral of of attacks coming from uh terrorist countries, and there's a win-win.
	But the left just will not get on board the basic project of you know, setting up democracies, the rule of law, uh all the fundamentals we take for granted this country.
	So let me get to the health care bill, and let me ask you both this question.
	Um all day I've been reading the Freedom Caucus is not in agreement with the bill, with leadership, with the White House at this point.
	Uh from my understanding it now has come down to two very specific issues, and that is repealing the Obamacare mandates and essential health benefits, which would, I'm sure, lower costs for people.
	Uh Congressman Jordan will start with you.
	Where is the entire caucus and and what is what has gone on today?
	And and tell me who you've met with and negotiated with.
	A coup a couple key things.
	One, uh the opposition in the freedom caucus is still strong, and it's strong for a a couple key reasons.
	Does this bill repeal does the speaker's bill repeal Obamacare?
	No, it doesn't.
	Even Krauthammer has said it's Obamacare light.
	Not that's not my term, that's that's Charles Cadimer.
	Uh does this bill lower premiums?
	No, it doesn't.
	Even CBO said premiums are going to continue to rise, and does this bill unite Republicans?
	No.
	Every single conservative organization in the country, major organization is opposed to this bill, as are conservatives in the House and Conservatives in the Senate.
	So, how many votes do you think how many votes do you think you have against it?
	Because this vote's taking place tomorrow unless they they decide they can't win.
	Yeah, we uh Sean, we just the Chairman, we don't give out the number, but I will tell you this, they don't I I I'm I'm I feel very comfortable in saying that they don't have two hundred and sixteen and the opposition within the Freedom Caucus is very strong.
	What do you need to make this work?
	Because I understood you you got a little closer, but not close enough.
	Tell us about the meetings with the president, the meetings with Vice President Pence.
	The mandates and regulations that have driven up the cost.
	That's what has to go so that premiums actually come down.
	Never forget what Obamacare did.
	Say we're gonna have all these mandates, all these regulations, drive up the cost of insurance, mandate that people buy, and if they don't, they get a penalty.
	That's what we have to that's what we have to overturn.
	That's what we have to repeal, and we have to do it in a way that actually brings down the cost of premiums for middle class families uh so that they can actually pick the plan that fits their needs and be able to afford it.
	All right, and that's simple basic, by the way.
	Free market.
	That that's the free market, which is supposed to be a a republican position, a conservative position.
	Where what did they say to you in these meetings specifically about this request?
	Uh it was nothing specific.
	They're talking about some things that may happen, but but again, we think this is so important that we have to get it right, and most important, we have to do what we told the American people we were gonna do.
	This bill, as currently drafted, does not do that.
	So we are working on trying to make sure that it does.
	It is really that basic.
	And it's and if the legislation is not going to bring down premiums, then that's not going to solve the problem, and that's not consistent with what the American people elected us to make.
	So my next question is who's been willing to negotiate with you?
	Is the president been open to t your ideas?
	Has the vice president has Paul Ryan?
	Yeah, Sean, uh, the White Office, I mean, we we met with an hour and a half with with uh a number of folks at the White House, including the Vice President.
	Uh we've we've talked with President Trump a couple of weeks ago, Mark Meadows and myself, and uh he's President Trump's meeting with us.
	They've been willing to reach out and talk, but again, uh we appro and and the president was great when he came and spoke to this yesterday I think they would say the same thing about the president's presentation to the conference the entire Republican conference yesterday but that doesn't change the four corners of the document that doesn't change the bill the legislation itself and it is not accomplishing what the American people since here to you think they just don't think you guys have the votes to stop it or do they think that they're gonna be able to twist arms and threaten and uh admonish you for not keeping your promise because you don't support their bill and they don't want to make
	changes.
	Well keeping our promises doing what we said and this bill doesn't do it.
	So we are all about the Freedom Caucus all about keeping our promise.
	This bill doesn't accomplish that and that's the point which we we have been trying to get across with everyone that we've been in discussions with the Well is anybody said to you Dave Brad that they're willing to make the changes that will get you on board?
	Yeah well there is some good news it's breaking at the last second and that's what Jim's been saying we we should have been having these conversations all the way through right right at the last second all the creativity now even the Senate right we're getting some word that the Senate may be open to doing some of the heavy listing that we haven't heard before.
	Well that's all we want we want Trump to have a successful presidency and you can't do that as Jim was saying when you retain the structure of the architecture of the case in past debates down.
	Congressman Brad I've heard this in the past now the Senate will make those corrections for us or it'll be done in conference.
	Right no and that's been I mean we you know if we've been around that that doesn't happen.
	The Senate is having a very hard time messaging on what their 51 votes can do right now.
	But the major point we're making is the price has to come down.
	Trump's a businessman a consummate businessman he knows price product quality etc right that matters and the average person back home cares about one thing.
	And so we can't have prices going down three years from now which is the way CBO is scoring this thing.
	We need immediate relief for our people and there's only one thing that's keeping that from happening.
	The insurance federally mandated insurance regulations are keeping young people from going out and buying a product that they want to buy at a cheap price.
	They have to buy this loaded up federal product right so there's no shopping across state lines there's none of the doctor's innovation you had on the interview in several times that's all missing.
	They the free market piece comes later and we're told we can put that in in bucket too but the problem with that is uh Secretary Pye can do that unilaterally as secretary but then it's not in law and the Democrats can come back and change it all four years later.
	And that's not good enough when we've been given this once in a century opportunity.
	Congressman Jordan you were going to say something I interrupted you.
	Well I the the answer here is really easy Sean start over.
	It's real simple I my background's in sport of wrestling and you know one of the things I learned there is sometimes you learn more from the setbacks than you learn from the victories.
	And there is nothing wrong with saying you know what we got to make changes.
	It's time to redo this bill and do it in a way that's consistent with what the American people expect.
	That is so simple it happens all the time in the real world but somehow here in Washington, oh no we can't start over we we've got to keep ramming through a product that's not not consistent with what the American people elect us do.
	It's really that basic so let's start over let's put this together in the right way.
	Let's make sure we get up those regulations and mandates that are driving up the cost of insurance let's repeal Obamacare like we said and for goodness sakes why not just start with this premise.
	We just voted on the bill that the clean repeal legislation 15 months ago every Republican was four then went to President Obama's desk TB told it why not start from that base and then add to it what we can and put it in Paul Ryan swears up and down that that's not a full repeal either the 2015 bill.
	No but it's a good starting point in a united Republicans and it's something that we all ran on and then add in the other things that that will get us to full repeal and the kind of replacement we need.
	That's the way that that's the simplest and smartest and best path forward uh consistent with what the voters want.
	After all my years of studying Washington let me let me assume what the next number of hours of your life leading up to tomorrow's vote or sometime tomorrow night it is going to be nonstop arm twisting.
	It's gonna be threats it's gonna be a carrot it's gonna be a stick it's gonna be you'll never get reelected it's gonna be I'll be glad to campaign for your raise money for you.
	That's what you're gonna hear.
	Is all of this unf is there anything that can happen between now and this vote tomorrow that will get the Freedom Caucus on board.
	If in fact we can bring down premiums we're gonna we're gonna do what we told the voters we're gonna do we're open to that and we've been we've been clear about that from the get go.
	So that's critical but this legislation doesn't do that.
	That's that's planning but you've got to be a little more specific.
	What specifically do you need that will guarantee that for you?
	You got you've got to repeal the reg regulations and mandates that are driving up the cost.
	Okay so that's so what I said at the beginning.
	Yeah we Exactly what we said at the beginning.
	All of them, though, not just a part of them.
	You gotta do it all so that we so that we drive down the cost, bring back affordable insurance, and and recognize this fundamental fundamental fact.
	The left defines success is signing people up with government insurance.
	We define it as bringing back affordable insurance that they can then then then then uh uh select.
	The one that fits our families need.
	That's what we're trying to accomplish.
	All right.
	By the way, did you guys notice what uh Devin Nunez said today?
	And that is that uh in fact, Trump and his campaign and Trump Tower was surveilled in spite of what Comey said the other day.
	It wasn't wiretapped.
	He said, okay, surveillance, wiretap.
	Now we're playing games.
	Okay.
	All right, listen, I've I've got what you guys are saying here.
	It we'll have you back on tomorrow if you'll join us and update us.
	And I agree with I agree with your position.
	I think those changes need to be in the bill.
	And uh we'll we'll you know, we'll watch it closely.
	And you're convinced without those changes, there's no way that bill passes.
	Not only the votes are there now, Sean, and we've we have been clear from the get-go.
	Clean repeal.
	Make sure you bring down the the the premium cost for working class and middle class families.
	That's what we told the voters, and that's what we've been for all along.
	All right, Jim Jordan and uh, of course, our good friend uh Congressman Dave Bratt on the other side.
	Uh, we appreciate uh both of you being here and updating us.
	We'll continue to update that more out of London.
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