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	I'm going to pull all of this together for you because there is something much, much bigger and deeper going on than anybody seems to be able to put together as it relates to General Flynn.
	His resignation slash firing from earlier today.
	And you've got to understand that there's this is so deep, and it's all related to everything that is predictable and frankly, everything that I warned would happen.
	And that is there is an unrelenting attempt by the entire establishment in Washington, D.C. What do they vote?
	4% for Trump in D.C. to destroy his presidency.
	And you can see it right out of O'Linski 101, isolating people one after the other.
	I mean, I keep I I was pointing out yet they've even gone after the president's son for crying out loud, his ten-year-old son.
	Oh, isn't that isn't that brave of them to do?
	They've at different times what they've gone after, tried to get Steve Bannon out.
	They made Eric Trump stop his charity raising money for St. Jude's.
	That was a great success for them.
	What the things that have been said about Melania Trump, imagine if they were said about Michelle Obama, for example.
	Then you got they've gone after Ryan's.
	They've tried all week to demonize Steve Miller.
	Well, we have an update on Kellyanne's story.
	Well, according to the Office for Government Ethics, because an off, literally an entire off-the-cuff comment.
	Now the uh Office of Government Ethics has now informed the White House counsel's office there is strong reason to believe that Kellyanne Conway has violated the standards of conduct and that discipline disciplinary action is warranted.
	Why?
	Because Ivanka, the daughter of the president, was targeted for political reasons and her entire business put in jeopardy, and she said go buy Ivanka's online.
	Big deal.
	I mean, is this the superfluous nonsense?
	There is such great hypocrisy on every level here.
	Where was this outrage over Hillary Clinton, top secret information, special access program information.
	She sought to bypass congressional oversight and put an email server in the closet of a mom and pop shop bathroom.
	What about the ethics involving the Clinton Foundation?
	While Secretary of State, she and her husband are raking in millions and millions to their foundation and for themselves, and she's making specific actions connected to donations.
	Nobody, there wasn't the breathless reporting by the alt-left radical media on any of those issues either.
	Now, Flynn submitted his letter of resignation to the president saying that he inadvertently gave Vice President Mike Pence incomplete information on phone calls that he had with the Russian ambassador in which he allegedly discussed lifting lifting sanctions against Moscow.
	I have sincerely apologized to the president and vice president, the letter stated, and they have accepted my apology.
	Now, you know, you go back, he's been a target.
	But think about this.
	Everybody's been a target, and everybody will be a target.
	But what they're what they're really aiming for is much higher.
	And that's the president.
	And that's the Donald Trump.
	You've got an immediate establishment, you've got a lobbyist establishment, you got the entire Democratic establishment and their party and their friends, which owns D.C., and then you've got, of course, the Republican weak establishment.
	They're a part of this as well because the way of doing things is now dramatically changing, and they don't like it.
	You know, this idea that that he may have violated the Logan Act, which bans unauthorized U.S. citizens from communicating with foreign governments, is a joke.
	It's from 1799, and it has never, ever, ever been used.
	Not one time.
	So let's be real here.
	And I read the Washington Post right now, Trump knew that Flynn misled officials.
	Well, Sean Spicer earlier today dealt with this at the press conference when he said, Yeah, but the White House counsel said that no crimes were committed.
	And then in the course of understanding this, General Flynn talked to Mike Pence and didn't give him the full context of the call.
	Now the question is, and it remains well, who's up to their eyeballs in this, and how is it that communications that only and intercepts that only our intelligence community would have ends up in the newspaper time and time and time and time again.
	Eli Lake wrote a great column today, The Political Assassination of Mike Flynn.
	And what he points out here, if you're Flynn, he resigned because he lied about the conversations with the Russian ambassador to the vice president, et cetera, he doesn't buy that one bit.
	And he point the point here is the White House at such casual opportunity, you know, he has criticisms of the of the White House, but that's not the important part here.
	This is what Trump ran on.
	And it's very likely in conversations in the interim between being elected and putting a government together and getting inaugurated that I'm sure Donald Trump many times said to General Flynn exactly whatever it was that he discussed with his Russian counterpart.
	So there's a big part of all of this here that's not being told.
	Now we have a series of incidents now where our intelligence community keeps leaking information.
	Now, the information in this particular case was gleaned from a phone conversation.
	Now, as Elike points out in his column, normally intercepts of U.S. officials and citizens are some of the most tightly held government secrets, and he writes for good reason, selectively disclosing details of private conversations that are monitored by our government, by the FBI, by the NSA, gives the permanent state.
	What is the permanent state?
	Those are the Obama holdovers.
	Those are the people that hate Trump.
	That is the swamp.
	That is the bureaucracy that is threatened by the very presence of Donald Trump.
	But he says it gives the permanent state the power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity.
	And he rightly writes this is what a police state does.
	Remember, one of the early leaks over the summer was, you know, after Trump claimed that analysts have this first classified briefing as Republican, that uh the nominee told him through Their body language that they disagreed with President Obama's policies, the sort of thing that intelligence professionals pride themselves on not doing.
	Well, all of a sudden the next day, as Sam Frizzell pointed out in a really good column, uh the very next day, NBC News cited six current and former senior officials who describe Flynn as repeatedly interrupting the analysts at the classified briefing.
	Flynn called the report BS.
	And in January, just before the president was inaugurated, multiple senior intelligence officials told CNN about classified briefings from intelligence officials about the dossier that claimed that Russia operatives, Russian operatives had compromising information on the president.
	And remember, senior U.S. officials provided the Washington Post with an account of Trump's phone call with the Australian prime minister contradicting the White House version of events.
	Who's leaking this?
	And as Eli is saying Lake in his column, these intercepts of U.S. officials and citizens are some of the most tightly held government secrets.
	Because selectively disclosing private conversations monitored by what he calls the permanent state in the FBI in intelligence in the NSA gives power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity, and this is what a police state does.
	Well, how does it keep happening again and again?
	And last week, in current officials, Flynn discussed U.S. sanctions against Russia in a phone call, and apparently didn't remember all the details, or didn't tell it all to the vice president, and this is where we end up today, and this is the first blood that the Swamp has been able to draw from any of the Trump people that they have been attacking from day one.
	There's not one Democrat that wanted one person except Joe Manchin that wanted one person in Trump's cabinet that Trump picked, not one.
	They wanted to do everything to smear slander besmirch and destroy every single one of them.
	Now, Congressman Nunez is quoted in this column, chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, said that the he saw the leaks about Flynn's conversations with his Russian counterpart as part of a problem.
	There does not appear to be, there does appear to be a well-orchestrated effort to attack Flynn and others in the administration, from leaking phone calls between the president and foreign leaders to what appears to be high-level Pfizer court information to leaking of American citizens being denied security clearances.
	It is a pattern.
	And but you gotta understand the bigger picture.
	Now, I want you to add this.
	Paul Sperry, both Paul Sperry and Eli Lake will be on the program later today, that he writes a column how Obama's scheming to sabotage Trump's presidency.
	He's living right down the block.
	The president encouraged people to keep going out there and protest, and you keep that's what he said publicly.
	So if he's encouraging the pro the public protest, what is he doing behind the scenes?
	Well, according to Sperry, he's working with a network of leftist nonprofit organizations led by organizing for action.
	Normally you would expect an organization set up by a politician and his agenda to close up shop after that person leaves office, but not Obama, not OFA.
	As a matter of fact, they're gearing up for battle and growing a war chest and more than 250 offices around the country.
	Wow, that seems a little unusual.
	And since Trump's election, this group of well-funded protesting arms beeped off their state.
	What do you think showing up at these at Jason Chavez's town hall and all these and Mitch McConnell's office?
	Well, these are all the Obama people.
	So you got Obama basically, and his asperry writes, he's kind of setting up a shadow government.
	All not to protest is not only to protest his threatened legacy, but to sabotage Trump.
	So the political assassination of Mike Flynn is what Eli Lake writes, and how Obama's scheming to sabotage Trump's presidency, it all begins to fit, doesn't it?
	And then all the leaks from the intelligence community, and then it looks like they want to give Kellyanne Conway the death penalty over the fact that she innocently mentioned Ivanka Trump, and then they've gone after Jared Trump, Ivanka Trump, Baron Trump, uh Eric Trump, Don Trump Jr. and his kids.
	They're gone after Melania with the fierceness, Then they've gone after Bannon, and then they're gone after Kellyanne, and then they've gone after Rines's on the chopping block.
	I'm reading all over the place today.
	And then there's talk of Chris Christie coming in, and then they've gone after everybody else.
	WikiLeaks not to be dismissed.
	They've never been wrong.
	I sent, I think they sent out a pretty cryptic message today, probably based on information they have.
	And it's a statement that blame the destabilization campaign by the media and Democrats for national security advisor Mike Flynn, quote, Trump's national security advisor, Mike Flynn resigns after destabilization campaign by U.S. spies, Democrats, and the press.
	The organization tweeted, including a screenshot of the press release from the White House announcing President Trump accepting Flynn's resignation.
	By the way, here's a point nobody else in the media will tell you.
	Did you know before Obama was even elected that the guy that ended up serving as his ambassador to Russia?
	This is weeks before the election and his lead up to the election.
	Before he got elected, Mike McFall.
	He actually ended up serving as the U.S. ambassador in Russia during the Obama administration.
	Was in Moscow before Obama was even elected in the weeks leading up to the 2008 election, meeting with officials in Russia.
	As a former diplomat, U.S. government official said, one needs to be able to have contact with foreigners to do one's job, McFall said.
	If you're ready to get out of the media spin room, you come to the right place.
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	This is everything that I have tried to predict for all of you here.
	And they they've there's been no honeymoon period.
	There will be no honeymoon period, and as long as Donald Trump is president, this is going to be how the country operates.
	But there's something very dark, much bigger going on behind the scenes, and you've got this coalition of people that do not want Donald Trump to succeed.
	It's everybody in the media, the alt-radical left that have they've never said one nice thing.
	And Donald Trump has fulfilled many promises.
	Not a thing.
	They're too busy chasing rabbits, as I've been pointing out here.
	And to stop the president from draining the swamp, which impacts all of them in the media and impacts every Democrat and impacts every establishment Republican and every lobbyist.
	They're now the DC swamp is rising.
	They're now colluding.
	They're now viciously fighting.
	And they have now allies within what Kenneth Timmerman writes about in his book in 2007, Shadow Warriors, and how these uh covert operatives working in darkness in a universe of lies, and how it involves a very sophisticated political sabotage operation aimed at leaders to doubt their own judgment, question their own subordinates.
	It's it's being used against Flynn.
	And the Shadow Warriors are within our own intelligence community.
	As I've mentioned, there's been way too many leaks now.
	Now, as a result of this, I asked the president this question.
	Are you going to investigate the leaks by probable Obama officials against your administration?
	Because if you don't drain this part of the swamp, this is never ever going to end.
	And this is just going to continue.
	And this is only going to get worse.
	And they're not going to stop until ultimately they get the president himself because that's what their goal is.
	You know, now we have House investigators have said they're going to pass on investigating the Flynn gate, but they said they may look into leaks to the press.
	What do you mean may leak into?
	You know, go to Eli Lake's column today.
	Again, I urge you, because it's too important to miss.
	This is not something that would happen on a regular basis.
	This is not normal operating procedure.
	What you have here Are rogue intelligence officials purposely sabotaging, in this case, General Flynn, but ultimately it's the president who they disagree with the most and don't want in office.
	Hence the leaks against Trump again and again of top secret information.
	Then you got a president now organizing from down the block, a former president, as part of this effort.
	And don't think these protests are not all by design in congressmen and senators'offices.
	Thank you.
	We've been reviewing and evaluating this issue with respect to General Flynn on a daily basis for a few weeks, trying to ascertain the truth.
	We got to a point, not based on a legal issue, but based on a trust issue with a level of trust between the president and General Flynn had eroded to the point where he felt he had to make a change.
	The president was very concerned that General Flynn had misled the vice president and others.
	He was also very concerned in light of sensitive subjects dealt with by that position of national security advisors like China, North Korea, and the Middle East, that the president must have complete and unwavering trust for the person in that position.
	The evolving and eroding level of trust as a result of this situation in a series of other questionable instances is what led the president to ask for General Flynn's resignation.
	Immediately after the Department of Justice notified the White House Council of the situation, the White House Council briefed the president and a small group of the senior advisors.
	The White House Council reviewed and determined that there is not an illegal issue, but rather a trust issue.
	Understand that all of this information was leaked.
	The idea that not just in this administration, but the Obama administration, going back to the Bush administration back, that we have an issue where classified information of which this would be handled in such a way that it is being given out.
	And I know in some cases it's it's a good story, and I understand that, and that's to some degree your responsibility to write that.
	But I think there's also a story here with an amount of leaks that are coming out of people that are entrusted with national security secrets and classified information are leaking it out.
	That's a real concern for this president that when he's talking on the phone with a world leader, that when he's making key decisions that are in the interest of protecting this country, that we have to wonder whether or not people who work for our government, who are entrusted with classified information and decisional-based materials are leaking that information out.
	That I do believe is a big story that should be reported.
	I also believe that the president is rightly so, very, very concerned about this because it's not just something that is plaguing you know the current situation, but it goes back to the Obama administration, the Bush administration, the Clinton administration.
	When we have government employees that are entrusted with this and can't and then leak it out, that undermines our national security, frankly.
	So now I want the press to press these questions.
	Who had the White House decided to do nothing for three weeks, as Flynn said in on meeting after meeting after meeting?
	Did the president decide to wait?
	Did Council decide to wait?
	Something is wrong here.
	Madam Leader, just this morning, Flynn tweeted, and this is a quote, scapegoat, end of quote.
	Scapegoat.
	He basically described described himself as a scapegoat.
	And so I believe we need to hold a public hearing with Flynn to get to the bottom of this.
	Our committee held three or four hearings, emergency hearings on Hillary Clinton in a matter of a week or two.
	And if there was any emergency at this moment in the history of this country, this is the moment.
	And so we need to get security and clearance documents.
	I want to see him.
	I want to see what he put in those documents to find out if he was honest on those forms.
	And we need to know how much he got paid to have dinner with Putin.
	But that is only the beginning.
	The press has asked us over and over again.
	I know they asked Mr. Schiff and asked the leader.
	Does it end here?
	Shouldn't things end here?
	No, they cannot end here.
	Ladies and gentlemen, we are a fight in a fight for the soul of our democracy.
	The question is is whether whether we will un clearly understand that this is our watch.
	And let's be clear.
	Schiff said it quite eloquently.
	The Republicans need to join us.
	This is not a democratic issue.
	This is not a Republican issue.
	It's not an independent issue.
	This is an American issue for the soul of our democracy.
	24 now told the top of the hour.
	Elijah Cummings making a fight for the soul of our democracy.
	Where was he?
	Where were they when it came to an email server with top secret special access program classification in on an email server in a bathroom closet of a mom and pop shop?
	Where were they when all of the collusion went on and millions of dollars were transferred to the Clinton Foundation, directly connected to Hillary Clinton's job.
	None of that mattered to any of the people that are screaming the loudest here.
	I want to backtrack.
	Now, WikiLeaks.
	I think Julian Assange has done us a favor.
	They sent out what I believe is a somewhat cryptic email today.
	They're telling a story, probably based on information they have.
	That has been my understanding, following them on a regular basis.
	Trump's national security advisor, Mike Flynn resigns.
	Now listen to this part, after destabilization campaign by U.S. spies.
	That's what Sean Spicer was just talking about.
	Now, the intelligence community relentlessly is leaking since Donald Trump has been president by U.S. spies, by Democrats, and by the press.
	In other words, the entire swamp that Donald Trump would like to drain.
	The organization tweets out today.
	Now, let's go to Devin Nunez and let's go to Eli Lake's column again today, because he's saying, as the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, that the decision to leak top secret information about General Flynn and his private conversations appears to be well orchestrated by Obama administration intelligence officials.
	Now, this is key because Devin Nunez goes on to say there does appear to be a well-orchestrated effort to attack Flynn and others in the administration from the leaking of phone calls between the president and foreign leaders.
	Remember the Australian leak?
	Oh, he threatened to invade Mexico leak.
	Remember all this stuff?
	Um, well, that's all intelligence because these conversations are jacked and recorded by the NSA and and by top intelligence agencies.
	That's the shadow government that Timmerman is is referring to in his book and in his column today, as is he went out on a limb in a pretty big way, defending General Flynn and saying that he's a victim of this intelligence swamp.
	He said with Flynn leaks, the shadow warriors draw first blood.
	He's talking about the intelligence committee, the same intelligence committee that WikiLeaks is saying is involved.
	The same intelligence that Devin Nunez, who's the head of the House Intelligence Committee, is saying too.
	I'm looking at the facts.
	He said, quote, there does appear to be a well-orchestrated effort to attack Flynn and others in the administration.
	Stop.
	What have I been saying?
	Systematically, right out of Olinski, 101.
	They go after uh Darth Vader, Steve Bannon, they they go after Jared, they go after Ivanka, they go after Don Jr., they go after uh Eric.
	I love that they pick on a girl Ivanka.
	Isn't that nice?
	The liberals are so loving, compassionate, inclusive, and all the things they always claim to be.
	Then they even go after Baron Trump, the 10-year-old, Kellyanne Conway.
	Now, the report today, the government ethics offices informed the White House counsel that Miss Conway has violated the standards of conduct and that discipline disciplinary action is warranted because she stood up for her friend and made an innocuous off-the-cuff comment.
	Really?
	You same people after the lies about Benghazi, the lies before, the lies during the lies after.
	Now we're going to get lectured at, oh, I like Ivanka, Biovanka's blind, I like it.
	Wow, that's such a that's such a code of ethics violation, the likes of which I've never seen in my life.
	Anyway, so uh it goes on to say, Devin Nunez, from the leaking of phone calls between the president and foreign leaders to what appears to be high-level Pfizer court information.
	This is the intelligence community that is leaking this information.
	This is very dangerous.
	Normally intercepts of U.S. officials and citizens are some of the most tightly held government secrets.
	This doesn't happen.
	And there's a reason.
	And Eli Lake nails it for good reason, selectively disclosing the details of private conversations monitored by the FBI or the NSA or both gives the permanent state.
	What does he mean by the permanent state?
	He means the swamp, the holdovers, the Obama lovers, the 4% of D.C. that voted for Trump.
	It gives the permanent state the power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity.
	And then he adds, this is what a what police states do.
	In the past, it has been considered scandalous for senior U.S. officials to even request the identities of U.S. officials that were incidentally monitored by the government, which was the case of Flynn here.
	And Flynn didn't remember it all.
	The fact that the intercepts of Flynn's conversations with his Russian counterpart appear to have been widely distributed inside the government as a red flag.
	This is the head of the House Intelligence Committee.
	Nunes said he was, by the way, don't these guys have better things to do like monitor ISIS and monitor Russia and Iran and China and all of our enemies abroad.
	This is what the intelligence community is doing.
	And by the way, I have great respect for the intelligence community.
	But there are certainly people that are acting improperly here.
	And certain people, as I believe, I think that Kenneth Timmerman is right that, you know, this the shadow warriors that have all this information, all this intelligence, all this power that don't like the president and are leaking it repeatedly, as even Time magazine, Sam Frizzell in his column, gives a list of everything that they've done up to this point.
	And I mentioned it in the last half hour.
	Look, you've got to understand here, the alt-radical left is hell-bent on preventing Trump to be successful.
	Want to know what liberals fear the most?
	Trump is going to succeed.
	You want to know what the bureaucracy fears the most, Trump's success.
	It's raining in the swamp.
	And what that's the reason Gorka is under fire.
	Kellyanne is under fire.
	Bannon is under fire.
	Millen Miller is under fire.
	Rheinz is under fire.
	You know, the president's children, including his 10-year-old son, are under fire for crying out loud.
	One by one, right out of a Linsky 101, what they're doing is they are systematically going down a line of people close to the president and trying to take them out and discredit the president.
	That's what's happening.
	Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it.
	That's Alinsky.
	That's what they're doing.
	They smell blood in the water.
	That's why Democrats and the alt-radical left media are bringing up impeachment.
	What did he know?
	And when did he know it?
	What did he know?
	The White House counsel told him there was no law breaking here.
	And then they were fully investigating, and then it became an issue of what he told the vice president.
	It really is that simple.
	The larger, more important question is who in the intelligence community, which I'm sure has political affinity for Obama and serve the former president, is involved in all of this.
	That to me is the exact same the bigger question that needs to be investigated, and Congress better get off their ass and get their heads out of their ass, and they better start investigating because these guys right now are winning.
	And that blood in the water is going to even bring more of this, not less of this.
	Top House Democrats ripped outgoing National Security Advisor Flynn from a tweet sent from a fake account purported to be Flynn's.
	And it becomes fake news.
	The account of General Mike Flynn tweeted earlier Tuesday that he's being made into a scapegoat for his contacts with the Russian government.
	It wasn't Flynn's account.
	This is how bad and how ill-prepared the media is.
	They've had a political earthquake and political movement, unlike anything they've seen in their lifetime, and they can't handle it.
	All they want to do is fixate on following the rabbit like a greyhound in a track.
	And they smell blood in the water.
	Peaching the president.
	That's their goal.
	They've even said it.
	Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi.
	They're trying to make anything into the next Watergate.
	They've ignored Hillary Clinton.
	They defended her private email server.
	They defended the corruption pay to play at the Clinton Foundation.
	They defended her endless lies.
	They were silent when Obama was caught on a hot mic talking to Dmitry Medvedev, saying, Oh, uh Dimitri.
	Dimitri.
	Listen, tell Vladimir that you know I'll have a lot more flexibility.
	I'll have flexibility.
	Meditab, tell tell him as soon as I'm elected.
	But don't tell the American people.
	Yeah, and this is my life, and I have all parts of it.
	And this is, I transmit this information to the Londoner, I understand it.
	you Unbelievable.
	Now it's no secret that Flynn had a rocky relationship with the national security establishment when in the Obama administration, he said that was uh previously forced out of that government for speaking up about the rise of radical Islam.
	They already had a prejudice, if you will, a prejudgment towards him and a hate towards him, and then the endless leaks about the Trump administration.
	You know, Devin Noon is saying what this is.
	Ever since Trump ran for president, there has been a witch hunt.
	And they don't want a Vanka.
	They just love it collateral damage.
	They're not looking for Jared, they're not looking for Reines, they're not looking for Flynn, they're not looking for Bannon, they're not looking for Miller.
	Their goal is to get the president and prevent him from draining the swamp.
	And their lives and their very existence as establishment media, establishment lobbyists, establishment Democrats, and weak need, weak spine, pathetically uh pathetic Republicans that can't keep promises.
	They don't want the pressure of having to actually do some work.
	And they want him to go too.
	And the hell with the people on food stamps in poverty and that are out of the labor force, the hell with our national security going down the tubes.
	Doesn't matter.
	Sean Hannity.
	There's nothing that you know, think about it this way.
	Is there any one cabinet official that the Democrats would support?
	No.
	Is there any one family member of Donald Trump that's not been attacked?
	No.
	Is there any one court appointment he's gonna make that's not gonna be attacked?
	No.
	Is there any policy that's not gonna be attacked?
	I said this all to you is going to happen.
	If it's extreme vetting, they'll oppose it.
	If it's Neil Gorsuch or an originalist of any kind on a court, they'll they'll pose it.
	Repealing, replacing, they'll oppose it.
	Energy independence, they'll oppose it, building the wall, they'll oppose it.
	Tax cuts will be characterized, even though they're for the middle class, for the rich and for businesses, wealthy businesses.
	Yeah, the people that hire people in Detroit and Cleveland and Milwaukee.
	Yeah, that's all gonna happen.
	There's nothing Trump won't do that won't cause this insane reaction.
	We'll continue this is how we rule we lied with our hands.
	This is how we roll.
	We are going to do whatever is necessary to keep our country safe.
	We will not allow people into our country who are looking to do harm to our people.
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	We've been in reviewing and evaluating this issue with respect to General Flynn on a daily basis for a few weeks, trying to Ascertain the truth.
	We got to a point not based on a legal issue, but based on a trust issue with a level of trust between the president and General Flynn had eroded to the point where he felt he had to make a change.
	The President was very concerned that General Flynn had misled the vice president and others.
	He was also very concerned in light of sensitive subjects dealt with by that position of National Security Advisors like China, North Korea, and the Middle East, that the President must have complete and unwavering trust for the person in that position.
	The evolving and eroding level of trust as a result of this situation in a series of other questionable instances is what led the president to ask for General Flynn's resignation.
	Immediately after the Department of Justice notified the White House Council of the situation, the White House Council briefed the president and a small group of the senior advisors.
	The White House Council reviewed and determined that there is not an illegal issue, but rather a trust issue.
	All right, that was Sean Spicer at the press conference today.
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	We continue our top story today, and that is General Flynn is now stepping down from his position.
	And of course, this has a lot to do with, I think, a political assassination, as Eli uh Lake writes in his piece earlier today, and he'll be joining us later in the program.
	But I think what we're watching is a lot bigger.
	And I think you're watching systematically, one by one, in you know, right out of the Alinsky handbook, isolating targeting, you know, one person around the president at a time.
	The media has ignored the success of Trump, the political earthquake that has taken place under their feet, and you've got the giant swamp now, which is the establishment in DC.
	You got the media establishment, the Democratic establishment, you've got the lobbyist establishment and the Republican establishment not liking all the changes that are coming their way and and changing the way they do things there.
	But think about it, that he've even gone after Baron Trump, who's ten years old in the media.
	They've stopped Eric Trump for raising money for St. Jude's Hospital.
	They've gone after and said everything about Melania Trump.
	Uh they've gone after Steve Bannon, they've gone after Reinz.
	They've gone after, you know, this week it's been Stephen Miller.
	Prior to that it was Kellyanne.
	And what they're really after is the President himself.
	And this is a seek and destroy mission.
	And when you look at the utter hypocrisy of if national security issues such as this matter as much as the media's claiming, then they certainly would have paid a lot more attention.
	There would have been a lot more hyperventilating in their reporting as it relates to Hillary Clinton, the Clinton Foundation, the money that foreign countries paid them, the quid pro quo, the email server scandal.
	We have an email.
	She's purposely trying to bypass oversight by Congress, putting in an email server inside of a mom and pop shop closet bathroom and lying about it repeatedly.
	Here with some perspective, a guy who's been around the block just a time or two, is Patrick J. Buchanan.
	How are you, sir?
	Do I'm fine, Sean?
	I think it's too bad that an officer who has served his country as well as General Flynn did, and when you whatever your views about uh General Flynn's particular views on foreign policy, it's sad to see someone after three weeks when he's reached the pinnacle of his career go out like this.
	But there's uh tell you you were right in your introduction.
	Uh they're gonna go directly for the president on this one, and I'll tell you where they're gonna go at him on.
	The question is gonna be that uh did Mr. President did you authorize General Flynn to talk to the Russian ambassador about the sanctions.
	Did he tell you about his conversation and what he told the ambassador about sanctions and the possibility you would take a different approach?
	And were you aware that when General Flynn uh spoke uh uh publicly that uh and told the vice president that uh he had not mentioned anything like that, were you aware that the general uh was not telling the truth at the time or the full truth?
	Well, all those questions were answered by Sean Spicer today at the White House briefing.
	Every one of those questions.
	No, he said he did not know.
	He didn't know, and again, it came down to an issue of trust.
	The the issue that they're raising here is that he didn't tell the vice president everything, and he apologized publicly to the president and vice president and said they accepted his apology on that.
	And according to the transcripts that were released, as as it relates to the conversations, the the conversation showed that it in fact it was the Russians that brought it up to him.
	So now the question is, okay, why didn't he say that?
	I don't know the answer to it.
	But I think the the broader question here is, you know, ha you know th they're out for blood.
	They sure are.
	But my question is still on on General Flynn.
	It's the suggestion I didn't hear Spicer on uh the way you've described it, I heard the later part of it.
	The question is what General Flynn freelancing on his own and giving some kind of assurance to the Russians about sanctions or how the president would react or what the President elect, excuse me, would like the Russians to do.
	And uh uh because that's a real assertion of authority that would be that frankly a uh you know, a national security advisor should never take without the this this precise authorization or direction of the president.
	Well, they could have talked about it more broadly in meetings, Pat.
	I mean, think about it.
	I w would uh I would assume that the president didn't like or had probably had a disagreement that he verbalized many times in many meetings about his position.
	I think Sean.
	You take uh McCain and those other folks, some of the folks that are really out uh have no enthusiasm for the president and who smell something here, and I think this is where they're going to go at him.
	And I agree with that.
	Well, I think you're right, but don't you don't you think it's more goal is really the uh uh uh to get the president, certainly the media and uh and I there was a good piece in the Wall Street Journal today in the editorial, you know.
	What are these guys doing uh uh, you know, overhearing listening and and recording conversations of the national security advisor, etcetera, they claim they pick it up on the on the Russian ambassador alone?
	Well, I mean that think that's a great question, but it would listen, but knowing the president as well as I do and having talked to him in the interim between that time when he was elected and he was putting his government together, uh I know he talked at length about all of the things that he would want to do.
	Now he didn't talk to me specifically about this, but uh I mean generally just reiterating that he wants to fulfill his promises.
	So let me say this.
	So hang on let me make my point.
	Sure.
	I would assume, Pat, that General Flynn heard his opinions about the s the issue of Russia and Obama and whether or not he agreed or disagreed with them.
	Well, I mean, let me say this.
	I think the if the President elect held the view and even uh told uh General Flynn, um, look, you know, when you talk to the ambassador, um, you know, tell the ambassador not to overreact to this stuff.
	I have no problem with him doing that, quite frankly.
	Neither do I. You know, what they're saying is that this is a violation of the Logan Act, which bans unauthorized U.S. citizens from communicating with foreign government.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He goes to countries all over the world negotiating deals.
	And and tw and twenty minutes l you know, and twenty days later he's about to be the national security advisor, but no, he he can only do it the minute he's he's he's um, you know, I guess sworn in.
	I mean, to me the whole thing is silly in a lot of ways, but let me tell you a story, and when I when Nixon was elected, I had contacts with the Russians, and I'm sure the guy was KGB.
	And it was in December, I believe, of sixty-eight, and he called me up and said he won't like to see me, and I gave, you know, went to see the guy and wrote up a report on exactly what he asked so you could find out what his questions were.
	But you informed uh your guys.
	I didn't inform the government, but I did inform uh I believe it was Dr. Kissinger or his shop at the time.
	So I don't see any problem here with that or even with what Trump did, and and my problem here is that it d frankly, do you think that that the general fell on his sword here?
	But what's the reason for falling on his sword?
	That in other words, that the pre that the president told them to do it.
	Maybe.
	That are you say suggesting that the president did it, or you're suggesting that the president told him to do it.
	Excuse me, it's the president elect.
	Look, it and it would I would have no problem with it if he had done this, which is to say, you know, when you're talking to the ambassador general, tell him for heaven's sakes you guys should not overreact to these sanctions.
	I have no problem with him making that statement myself and they talk about the Logan Act or whatever.
	And If the fact that Russians didn't throw out all our diplomats is a good thing.
	I totally completely agree with you, because it would have precipitated a crisis, and if he was trying to calm the waters and say there's a a new chief coming into town, then chief executive coming into town, then I don't see a problem.
	But I do think there's a broader issue here.
	Is if you look at, you know, Steve Miller went on the Sunday shows and and how MBC has put him in dark black and white demonization and what they did to Bannon and the cover of Time Magazine.
	I thought Miller was excellent.
	I thought he was great this weekend.
	I agree with you.
	He reminds me of you, Pat.
	He was even younger when I was.
	But the point is I I think what's happening here is broader.
	They've gone they've avoided the political earthquake and the success that Donald Trump has had.
	And all they're doing is one by one trying to demonize and pick off all the guys around him, getting as much collateral damage to discredit him as possible, but with their ultimate goal is, you know, uh to use Eli Lake's column today, he called it the political assassination of Michael Flynn, but it really it's about Trump.
	I think you're exactly right.
	First, I think they want to break Trump's agenda.
	The ca things he campaigned on and what he promised he would do are going to be very difficult in this city, more difficult than even I thought they were gonna be, and they're after him on those, and secondarily they want to get rid of him personally.
	And there's folks uh anyway to embarrass or damage or drive him down in the polls so that he can't realize the agenda he ran on.
	I could not agree with you more on that.
	Isn't there a bigger problem that's got hopes uh hopes invested here and uh and r and we are concerned about what we're seeing.
	Aren't you as concerned as I am at who in the in the intelligence community leaked these phone calls?
	You know, that should be investigated by the guy I mean, that should be investigated internally by Pompeio at the uh at the CIA and and anybody at the FBI to find out who did this exactly and run that down.
	That is a horrendous scandal.
	Unbelievable.
	Because doesn't that suggest to you that that maybe Paul Sperry was right?
	There are their Obama Hillary supporters within the intelligence community angry at Trump and want to undermine it.
	I mean, they many of these agents look, Donald Trump got four percent of the vote in Washington, DC.
	Hang on one second.
	Yeah, that's true.
	All right, stay right there.
	Well uh a couple of more minutes with Pap Buchanan, eight hundred nine four one Sean, toll free telephone number.
	Also, we are gonna get back to the story with uh author Eli Lake, who wrote that this is the political assassination of of Mike uh Flynn.
	We'll get to all of that and more.
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	As we continue with Patrick J. Buchanan, our top story today, and that is the resignation of General Flynn as National Security Advisor, or he's been let go, depending on how you want to characterize it.
	I want to put together two different pieces that have come out.
	One has to do with Eli Lake's column, which is this is a political assassination and all the leaky from all the intelligence communities.
	And the second one is from Paul Sperry, where he wrote how Obama's scheming to sabotage Trump's presidency.
	As you look at the big picture and the attack on every single person around the president and the president himself, at the while Washington ignores all of these major changes and success that he's had in just a few weeks.
	Do you see what I see, and that is an orchestrated attempt by all the different you know, straining the swamp components, which is the media component establishment, the Republican establishment, democratic establishment, lobbying establishment.
	Do you see them converging together and partnering in this effort to smear slander besmirch and literally erase a Trump presidency if they can?
	I certainly do.
	You know what?
	I went within the into the White House with Nixon early on.
	I said, We're like the dust on a tabletop.
	I mean, you've got a few hundred or f even when you get fully staffed about a couple of thousand people in there and you've got a mammoth bureaucracy, which is by and large totally hostile, built up in the Great Society and New Deal, and this this bureaucracy built up under Obama is totally hostile to the agenda of Donald J. Trump because he threatens everything they believe in.
	Now, a real question here, Sean, is the we'd expelled all the Russian diplomats, President Obama did, threw him out of the country, and apparently they were upset or surprised that the Russians didn't retaliate, which is I think one of the motives for going after all this material.
	The question interesting question.
	Was this designed to sabotage a Trump foreign policy with regard to Russia before Trump got even into office?
	What is the motivation for these folks here?
	As as you mentioned, who were I mean, all these people control who are looking over and recording and taping what the general said and leaking it all out.
	I mean, what beneficent purpose do they have in mind in doing this if it's not to damage and destroy the Trump administration before it even gets into war into power?
	It's so it's really really chilling.
	You know, WikiLeaks actually came out with uh a theory today, and I don't disagree with them on this either, because I think it's you know, they may have sources that Sean Hannity and Pap Buchanan don't have, and they might be reading things that none of us know about, but they're suggesting on a pretty high level that in fact this was the intelligence community.
	Well, you know, they would not would not surprise me in the least, but again, we get back to I don't know the the problem here, I don't know exactly to be honest, what exactly General Flynn did wrong if as you suggest the ambassador's talking about this on the phone and a call from from the general, and the general says something like for we hope you don't overreact to this.
	I mean, for heaven's sakes, I don't find any of that uh any action.
	Well what if it's what if it's deep what if it's deeper than that?
	What if he said specifically, well when we get in, we're gonna fix this.
	Look, it's gonna be a new day here in a month or so.
	We please don't overreact.
	That's a natural response.
	I don't understand, frankly, why the general, if he said that didn't tell you know, pens this.
	I did say that.
	I did say that, because I don't see anything wrong with it, and frankly, the average individual would say this is what Trump's been saying the whole campaign.
	When I get in, the policy toward Russia's gonna change.
	We're gonna try to work with them if we can.
	We're gonna bring them into the battle against ISIS.
	All right, Pat, we gotta roll.
	Pap You can always appreciate your insight.
	Thank you for being with us.
	Thank you, my friend.
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	When we come back, you'll meet two people.
	The battle over the Supreme Court nominee, Neil Gorsuch, is heating up.
	Let's talk to people who really know him.
	Two people who clerk for the late Supreme Court Justice, Antonin Scalia, and much more.
	Straight ahead.
	Let me...
	You're from the Department of Justice, if I understand correctly.
	Yes.
	Um, so you're aware of of law enforcement.
	How many arrests have there been of foreign nationals for those seven countries since nine eleven?
	Your Honor, I don't have that information.
	I'm from the civil division if that if that helps.
	Get me off the hook anyway.
	Well, let me tell you the answer to that is none, as best I can tell.
	So I mean, you know, you you're here arguing on behalf of someone that says we have to protect the United States from these individuals coming from these countries, and there's no support for that.
	Your Honor, I think the point is that because this is a question of foreign affairs, because this is an i an area where Congress has delegated authority to the president to make these determinations, it's the president that gets to make the determinations, and the court doesn't have authority to look behind those determinations.
	They're essentially like determinations that are committed to agency discretion.
	Well um, and we do think that uh despite plaintiff's claim that Kleinding's the man's allies is is directly on point.
	Um and that if the if the if uh the four corners of the executive or executive order offer a facially legitimate and bona fide reason for it, which they do hear, that that the court can't look behind that.
	Well, I can't say I understand that from your from your papers, and you and he very forcibly presented that argument.
	But I'm also asked to look and determine if the executive order is rationally based.
	And rationally based to me implies that uh To some extent I have to find it grounded in facts as opposed to fiction.
	The court finds that for purposes of the entry of the temporary restraining order, that the state has met its burden of demonstrating that it faces immediate and irreparable injury as a result of the signing and implementation of the executive order.
	I find that the state has satisfied the test that it is likely to succeed on the merits of the claim which would entitle them to relief.
	I find that the balance of equities favor the states.
	And lastly, I find that a temporary restraining order is in the public interest.
	If I were to apply the Ninth Circuit's alternative test, I would find that the states have established a question, a serious question going to the merits, and that the balance of equities tips sharply in their favor.
	As such, I find that the court should and will grant the temporary restraining order.
	All right, that of course was the Seattle judge Ropart who made that initial ruling out in Seattle, which then led to the Ninth Circuit.
	And of course, I make the case that I believe this was an instance of judge shopping because they went to a liberal court, knowing it'd go to the Ninth Circuit on appeal, and the decision about what's going to happen with the administration on the executive order is uh still forthcoming.
	Um it has been one year since the tragic death of I think one of the most brilliant jurist justices in the history of the country, Antonin Scalia, and Neil Gorsuch now.
	If you think this battle over the National Security Advisor, General Flynn is bad, we'll just wait till Neil Gorsuch and his hearings begin.
	Uh we don't use the term borking as a verb very often, but we know what they did, and I played it before what they've done at Judge Robert Bork, another genius when it comes to the law, the Constitution, and of course uh legality and the role of government in each particular branch of government.
	And uh Neil Gorsuch, by the way, none of his opinions have been overturned by the Supreme Court in more than a decade on the Federal Appeals Court.
	Not one of his written opinions was overturned by the Supreme Court, not one.
	He has shown the same judicial originalist constitutionalist philosophy of Judge Anton and Justice Antonin Scalia and somebody like, for example, Justice Clarence Thomas.
	Now the question is how far will the left go in trying to demonize him?
	Anyway, we might get a little bit of insight from Matthew Owens and Michael uh can Kenely is with us, both clerking for Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia.
	And uh first of all, it's I know it's a year since you lost this great man, and uh our thoughts and prayers go out to him and his wife and his family and uh and both of you as well.
	I'm sure you uh had a great fondness for him.
	Matthew?
	Yeah, definitely we did, and and uh thank you very much for saying that.
	I I know all of uh Justice Scalia's law clerks took his death uh very hard.
	He was uh not just uh a mentor to us, but a lion of the law and uh a kind of patriarch of our of our uh movement a little bit um for uh for conservatism in the law, and it was uh it's very big and a hard year without him.
	Michael, I I remember a speech in particular that Justice Scalia gave when he explained what it is to be an originalist.
	Do you remember that speech?
	Sure, sure.
	Explain it.
	Well, originalism is the philosophy that the Constitution means today what it meant when it was enacted, and if you want to change what it means, you have to pass the constitutional amendment, which is the mechanism that the Constitution itself provides for changing it.
	Um you can't go to court and ask a judge to change it because they uh because you think that the original meaning of the Constitution is no longer a good one.
	In other words, it's no longer valid, and this is where the the great divide in the country is because there are those of us that I believe in originalism myself and I believe in separation of powers and coequal branches of government, but I argue that the left in this country what they can never get done at the ballot box by arguing before the American people and making a case for elective office,
	what they could not get done legislatively, they try to rely on the courts through judicial activism to impose on the American people.
	Is that true?
	Yeah, I mean, in some ways uh originalism puts a lot of faith in um the people to uh put forward the laws that they think are best uh for governing them.
	And uh that was one of the arguments that Justice Scalia would always give to it.
	Um, if you were in a democracy and the people are sovereign, um going to the courts and asking unelected uh judges to create new laws is is completely in tension with that commitment to democracy and don't Matthew don't we see that on a fairly regular basis from the courts uh look at the Ninth Circuit I think it's about eighty percent over the years they're that they're overturned by the Supreme Court.
	Well you you see a lot of courts that uh think it's it's their job to to read into the Constitution uh the policy ideas that they like uh and you know the Supreme Court when Justice Scale was there didn't didn't know his uh didn't always like that he used to say that you know if you're opposed to the death penalty you should convince your neighbors that you're right and pass a law.
	You don't need to come to court and and try to convince a judge to pretend that the Constitution has anything to say about that.
	So that that philosophy protects democracy.
	Explain what what judicial activism is to you.
	Well for me I mean I think the the term uh can be can be a little hard to define but it it it should mean uh when a judge looks to something other than the law to decide a case when he looks to his his own feelings or or political views or something other than what the people's elected representatives have passed into a statute or what the founders ratified in the Constitution when they look beyond that to try to to try to put social policy into the Constitution because it's it's your own political views.
	That to me is accurate.
	I just played Justice Ropart uh out in Seattle and here he made a statement that was factual yet accurate.
	He made the statement well since nine eleven he was he was asking the Justice Department a lawyer has there been any instances of any of the seven people as far as I can tell none he said that have committed acts of terrorism.
	In fact we have now been able to identify seventy two separate cases of people from those seven countries.
	What does it mean when a when a judge gets something wrong on the facts like that?
	Michael I feel like I'm testing you guys in law school by the way I want to see how good you are it it's always troubling uh when when um you know judges make mistakes of any kind, whether it's legal or factual I mean well one of the good things about our system is that uh you know that's the kind of uh issue that can get litigated fully uh you know we're at a very early stage in that case and um eventually the challengers are going to have to put on a factual evidence to support their challenge um because as the challengers they bear the burden of proof as I understand
	it.
	Um so you know I think in at the end of this we're at a very early stage of the litigation.
	I think by the end of it we'll have uh all those issues fully aired in court.
	If you were going to advise both of you I what are your current positions?
	Are you in a position to weigh in on your own own judicial philosophy here, both of you?
	Because I want to ask you if you were to advise the Trump administration on the best way to go forward, they have a number of options.
	One they can go back to the Seattle judge and and argue the case there or they could try once again at at the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals as I understand it, or they could bring it to the Supreme Court where then Justice Kennedy would have an opportunity to either make a decision one way or the other or bring it to the entire Supreme Court.
	If you were to advise or they could rewrite the entire executive order and start over.
	If you were to advise the administration, Matthew I'll start with you what would you do what would you advise them?
	Uh to be honest with you Sean I am not in a in a position where I can where I can comment on that.
	I I think that all of those options are the ones that they will consider.
	I know that there's been some whispering that they might rewrite the executive order and and try to clean it up a little bit and start over Jay Seculo I'm sure both of you know from the American Center for Law and Justice on and he actually rewrote his own version and said if he did those things it would make it you know fairly bulletproof if it ever got to the entire Supreme Court he predicted 8-0 and that's of course without Neil Gorsuch.
	Michael?
	Yeah well it's one of those uh it's one of those things where um it's a tough decision for the president because you know he has to sort of weigh uh getting what he thinks is in the national security interest of the country uh in place immediately versus um avoiding you know protracted uh litigation it's a it's a tough decision.
	I I I'm sure his uh advisors are weighing their options carefully.
	Last question because you both clerked for Anton and Scalia.
	My uh Michael I'll start with you.
	Tell us some anecdote about this great judicial philosophy mind that I think people would enjoy hearing.
	Well I think it it you know it's it's evident to a lot of people on the outside just what a uh you know brilliant guy he was and and how deeply principled Uh but one of the things that sometimes gets lost in the popular uh portrayals of him uh is just how happy he was in life.
	Um, you know, he's sort of portrayed as a curmudgeon a lot of the time, and he could have uh, you know, his bad days as much as anyone.
	Uh, but he was just uh uh a joie de vive kind of guy.
	We had uh just the week before he died, um a tradition in Chambers is to have uh a birthday party whenever uh one of the chamber staff or uh clerks is uh celebrating a birthday, and just the week before he died, we had one of my co-clerks uh was celebrating a birthday, and he would like nothing more than uh leading the whole group in a uh spirited singing of Happy Birthday.
	So I'll always remember uh that as a happy birthday.
	By the way, on the court, I think it was the funniest justice I ever heard when you listen to you can't see them, but if at times when they'd release oral arguments, he cracked me up.
	Um and I with a incredible wit and sense of humor and a biting commentary if he felt like it.
	Matthew, last word, we got about 20 seconds.
	Sure, I just I I'll echo what Michael says.
	He was he was full of life.
	It was a a great tradition at the court to have a a Christmas party for everyone who works there, and everyone who went always knew Justice Scalee was gonna sing a duet uh of usually good King Winces list or something like that.
	He he was uh the life of the life of the party building and one last last last question.
	Do you guys know Neil Gorsuch?
	Yes.
	One simple yes and yes or no question.
	Do both of you believe that he shares the judicial philosophy of Antonin Scalia, Matthew.
	Yeah, yes, he does.
	Michael.
	I agree.
	All right, all right.
	Thank you guys.
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	All right, when we come back, uh Eli Lake wrote an article, the political assassination of National Security Advisor, uh General Michael Flynn.
	And then we have Paul Spurry, he wrote about a shadow government of Obama and Patrick Poole all coming up our top story, the resignation, well, firing of General Michael Flynn.
	We'll get to that next.
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	Eli Lake writing a pretty provocative column, the political assassination of Michael Flynn, Paul Sperry talking about an Obama shadow government, and also Patrick Poole.
	All check in as we get to the resignation or slash firing of General Michael Flynn.
	Uh let's go back to our busy telephones here as we say hi to Carrie is in Texas.
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	I I was gonna but I was married to a Texas Ranger for 14 years.
	I mean, I remember one time he got seven hundred thousand dollars out of an eighteen wheeler coming from Alabama out of Laredo.
	Or the time he got fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana when we lived in Pearsall, or the time that when I was in preterm labor, they couldn't get married in the hospital.
	Let me tell you how bad it is, and I I don't want to cut you short, but when I was down in Texas on the border with Governor Perry.
	I I got a briefing, a security briefing.
	Six hundred and forty-two thousand crimes committed against Texans in a seven year period.
	Six hundred and forty-two times.
	All right, finish your last comment.
	I got a roll.
	Um, our vehicles are being stolen because when they get over here, nobody's got a picnic basket for them and handing them a c set of keys to a car.
	Free free free.
	Washington State, New York, the Hamptons, Pennsylvania, people wake up.
	It's not happening to you there.
	The reality is what we are scary.
	And I just wanted to um uh use your platform.
	Well, I mean it just to get that.
	I was trying to explain this to Jorge Ramos last night, and I gotta tell you something.
	It's unbelievable to me.
	Now there's a lot of people, a lot of victims of crime.
	What about Americans?
	Why don't we have the right to safety and security?
	All right, back to our top story, the resignation slash firing of National Security Advisor Flynn.
	What do you hear from Eli Lake who says this is a political assassination?
	Paul Sperry, he looks at the fact that Obama may be running a shadow government and much more.
	Coming up next, our final news roundup and information overload hour.
	So I want the press to press these questions.
	Who had the White House decided to do nothing for three weeks, as Flynn said in on meeting after meeting after meeting.
	Did the president decide to wait?
	The council decide to wait.
	Something is wrong here.
	Madam Leader, just this morning, Flynn tweeted, and this is a quote scapegoat.
	End of quote.
	Scapegoat.
	He basically describes described himself as a scapegoat.
	And so I believe we need to hold a public hearing with Flynn to get to the bottom of this.
	Our committee held three or four hearings, emergency hearings on Hillary Clinton in a matter of a week or two.
	And if there was any emergency at this moment in the history of this country, this is the moment.
	And so we need to get his security and clearance documents.
	I want to see them.
	I want to see what he put in those documents to find out if he was honest on those forms, and we need to know how much he got paid to have dinner with Putin.
	But that is only let me get it.
	I asked us over and over again.
	I know they asked Mr. Schiff and asked the leader.
	Shouldn't things end here.
	No, they cannot end here.
	Ladies and gentlemen, we are a fight in a fight for the soul of our democracy.
	The question is is whether whether we will un clearly understand that this is our watch.
	And let's be clear.
	Schiff said it quite eloquently.
	The Republicans need to join us.
	This is not a democratic issue.
	This is not a Republican issue.
	It's not an independent issue.
	This is an American issue for the soul of our democracy.
	We've been a reviewing and evaluating this issue with respect to General Flynn on a daily basis for a few weeks, trying to ascertain the truth.
	We got to a point not based on a legal issue, but based on a trust issue with a level of trust between the president and General Flynn had eroded to the point where he felt he had to make a change.
	The President was very concerned that General Flynn had misled the Vice President and others.
	He was also very concerned in light of sensitive subjects dealt with by that position of national security advisors like China, North Korea, and the Middle East, that the president must have complete and unwavering trust for the person in that position.
	The evolving and eroding level of trust as a result of this situation in a series of other questionable instances is what led the president to ask for General Flynn's resignation.
	Immediately after the Department of Justice notified the White House counsel of the situation.
	The White House counsel briefed the president and a small group of the senior advisors.
	The White House counsel reviewed and determined that there is not an illegal issue, but rather a trust issue.
	Understand that all of this information was leaked.
	The idea that not just in this administration, but the Obama administration, going back to the Bush administration back, that we have an issue where classified information of which this would be is handled in such a way that it is being given out.
	And I know in some cases it's it's a good story, and I understand that, and that's to some degree your responsibility to write that.
	But I think there's also a story here within the amount of leaks that are coming out of people that are entrusted with national security secrets and classified information are leaking it out.
	That's a real concern for this president.
	That when he's talking on the phone with a world leader, that when he's making key decisions that are in the interest of protecting this country, that we have to wonder whether or not people who work for our government, who are entrusted with classified information and decisional based materials, are leaking that information out.
	That I do believe is a big story that should be reported.
	I also believe that the President is rightly so, very, very concerned about this, because it's not just something that is plaguing you know the current situation, but it goes back to the Obama administration, the Bush administration, the Clinton administration.
	When we have government employees that are entrusted with this and can't and then leak it out, that undermines our national security, frankly.
	All right.
	That was Sean Spicer.
	And prior to that, it was Elijah Cummings saying, oh, we're fighting for the soul of our democracy.
	Really?
	Where was his outrage over Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation and the money's paid by countries while she was Secretary of State, garnering influence through the Clinton Foundation, through donations, through speeches Bill Clinton is making.
	What about that quid pro quo?
	I didn't hear the same outrage from the left from Democrats when it came to Hillary Clinton uh violating the law as it relates to having an email server to bypass congressional oversight in the closet of a mom and pop shop and a bathroom.
	I didn't hear the same type of outrage.
	But Sean Spicer raises the big question here why are these leaks continually coming from the intelligence community?
	This is not stuff that is normally ever leaked by anybody.
	Well, there are two great columns out, and I'm putting them both together in my own mind, thinking there might be something to all of this.
	Eli Lake writes for Bloomberg, and he wrote a gray column today called The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn.
	And just days before, a good friend Paul Sperry wrote how Obama's scheming to sabotage Trump's presidency and could these two in some ways be related.
	Anyway, welcome both of you to the program.
	Thanks so much for having us.
	Eli, let me s let me start with you, Eli, is because this is important.
	What do you mean by the political assassination?
	And you went into a lot of depth and detail in your piece to describe the intelligence leaking that's going on here and why that might be happening, especially as it relates to these calls that are never leaked historically.
	Well, I it really comes down to the question of what exactly does it mean to have discussed sanctions with the Russian ambassador.
	Um my sources have told me that this is something that the ambassador brought up in a conversation with Mike Flynn, and Flynn simply said, Hey, we're coming in in a couple weeks, we're going to be reviewing a lot of things in Russia policy.
	Why don't you give us some time?
	But it wasn't the central it wasn't the main topic of the discussion.
	And I mean, my understanding, and we know this because it's public record, is that Flynn is having several phone calls a day.
	He's got two phones.
	He's talking to ambassadors, foreign leaders, other national security advisors.
	But isn't this his upcoming job?
	I mean, I know what the Logan Act says, but he was about to be the national security uh director, agency director.
	I mean, you know, so I would imagine that prior to getting into that position, he wants to establish a rapport with the people that are going to be that he's going to be talking with on a daily basis, no?
	Absolutely.
	And what's more, I mean I mean, and I can say as a foreign policy columnist, I disagree with the idea of trying to have a reset with Russia, but Donald Trump campaigned on that.
	Mike Flynn is his incoming national security advisor.
	So of course he's going to reach out to the Russian ambassador to try to set up that call.
	And let's assume for a second that that he also, Eli, in the course of his discussions with the president, that the president said, you know, well, just make sure that whoever your counterpart is on the Russian side knows that Obama's actions will not be my actions and that things are likely to turn around.
	Would it be a violation of the Logan Act to to mention that to your counterpart?
	Well, the Logan Act is in my view, it's red herring, it's never been prosecuted.
	More importantly, I don't think it would be in proper, but to the key point, which is that did Flynn lie to Vice President Penn, he says he doesn't remember it.
	And if if we're having a 10-minute conversation and for 30 seconds we talk about something, but the main topic was something else, I can forgive a guy that's working, you know, 14 hours a day on his vacation, talking to lots of foreign leaders, and when he's giving a briefing several days after that phone call,
	doesn't mention it if it wasn't an important thing, and in the ambassador brought it up, I wouldn't imagine that Flynn would maybe get the benefit of the doubt, but it looks to me like this was sort of taken out um by the acting attorney general who was an Obama holdover, and you know, taken to the White House and said this is a very serious matter, and this information, I mean, the fact that his name appears in an intercept that there's nine sources talking to the Washington Post about it.
	That says it's w it seems it's pretty widely.
	So you're basically suggesting that the holdover Sally Yates, who involved herself in the executive order as it relates to extreme vetting and and the temporary ban on immigrants, that she was up to her eyeballs in this too.
	But I I listened very closely to the briefing today by Sean Spicer, and he said the White House counsel did not believe there was a legal basis to worry about this when he advised the president.
	So acting on that, then it became an issue of what why wasn't he fully transparent with the vice president?
	But I I'm not so sure that it I mean, uh yes, he should have remembered that detail of the conversation, but I think that there's a difference between having it come up from the ambassador, sort of saying, All right, you know, give me some time, we're coming in.
	Now let's talk about the phone call between uh Putin and Trump and having it be uh the conversation and having an in-depth talk with the ambassador and then shielding that from the vice president.
	I think it was the former, not the latter, and he should I thought should be should have been given a pass on that, but because of the way that it was sort of leaked out and everything else, it became a political crisis over the weekend and he had to revive.
	Yeah, by the way, our friend uh Paul Sperry is with us, uh, one of my favorite writers and authors, and he's amazing how Obama is scheming to sabotage his a New York uh post columnist, author of the Great American Bank robbery.
	Uh all right, so you just heard what Eli said.
	I don't know if you read Eli's column today, but it really fascinated me.
	And when I put it together with your column from a couple of days ago that Obama is using a network of leftist nonprofits led by organizing for action and basically creating a shadow presidency.
	I'm thinking, do you think he could be up to his eyeballs in this?
	After all, he did encourage all the protesters to go out there and keep doing what they're doing against the president.
	Well, he did have control over the intelligence community um at that time, so I I I wouldn't doubt it.
	He was trying to de-legitimize uh Trump in regards to um uh the Russians uh uh allegedly hacking into uh all these databases.
	Let me let me quote from your column.
	Obama's working behind the scenes to set up will what will effectively be a shadow government to not only protect his threatened legacy, but to sabotage the incoming administration and its a po and its popular American first agenda.
	Yeah, I mean, all these anti-Trump protests, well, not all of them, but most of these anti-Trump protests are not spontaneous.
	They're gent being ginned up by organizing for action or OFA and OFA is Obama.
	OFA is a a nonprofit group that's officially tied to to uh Obama and these protests.
	In fact, uh, as I reported in the post column, Obama's tweeting through OFA's Twitter account.
	He's holding conference calls to rally the OFA troops, and he's listed OFA on his new website.
	Uh anybody can go to the homepage and his new website, and there at the bottom, only uh one of only two organizations listed on that on that uh website.
	One of them is OFA, the other is the Obama Foundation.
	And by the way, OFA is going to be rolled into the Obama Foundation and the presidential library, so it's going to become an even bigger juggernaut going forward.
	Well, he's he's angry because Trump's gonna wipe out in a hundred days ninety percent of his agenda, assuming that these idiot Republicans get off their ass and repeal and replace Obamacare like they've been promising for eight years.
	Eli That's right.
	He's trying to salvage his legacy and his legacy programs like Obamacare and the Dreamers and all that.
	Yeah, well, and this is the problem when you rule by executive order.
	Um and uh all right, I want to get back to this with both of you.
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	I I have, I think, one of the hardest hitting opening monologues I've ever done tonight, where you're getting information you're not going to get anywhere else.
	There is an all out effort.
	And I warned all of you ahead of time that this was all coming.
	That this is not really about General Flynn.
	This is not about Steve Miller.
	This is not about Kellyanne Conway.
	This is not about the Darth Vader, Steve Bannon, as they call him.
	This is not about Eric Trump, Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Donald Jr., even went after Baron Trump and Don Jr.'s kid.
	This is about an entire establishment, what Trump called the swamp, incapable of accepting election results.
	And even the intelligence community now has been highly politicized.
	Because as we have been pointing out for the better part of the day, and Eli Lake, who I thought wrote a great column, as I mentioned earlier, and he joined us in the last half hour.
	Normally these intercepts that they're referring to, which is the conversation with General Flynn and the his Russian counterpart.
	There's some of the most tightly held government secrets.
	And for good reason that, you know, selectively, as Eli writes, disclosing details of private conversations monitored by the FBI or the NSA gives the permanent state.
	What is the permanent state mean?
	Permanent state means all of those people that live there forever.
	The bureaucrats, the swamp, the people that are making their careers there.
	The power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity means they do it all privately.
	Well, let's leak this.
	Oh, we don't like this guy.
	And then he writes, this is what police states do.
	It's kind of scary.
	This is unbridled power.
	And when you look at the contempt and the hatred that exists towards the president, it makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?
	And the media, me, how does the media not focus in on all of the success in three weeks?
	They're just obsessed chasing the rabbit like a greyhound running around a track.
	They just race after it, race after it, and pay no attention to a political earthquake and a broader narrative, constantly calling the president a liar, constantly attacking those around him.
	Well, now they've been able to they've been able to get a little bit of blood here.
	And all that's going to do is increase the scent and increase the breathlessness in their reporting and increase the intensity by which they they try to pick off one by one those people surrounding the president, isolating them one by one, all in an attempt to delegitimize the president.
	Now, it used to be scandalous for U.S. officials to request the identities of U.S. officials that were incidentally monitored by the government because they were not monitoring General Flynn.
	They were monitoring his Russian counterpart.
	But they do it anyway to people they don't like.
	Congressman Nunez, who uh is out in California, chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, told Eli What Eli Lake that he saw the leaks about Flynn's conversations as part of a pattern.
	Quote, there does appear to be a well-orchestrated effort to attack Flynn and others in the administration from the leaking of phone calls between the president and foreign leaders to what appears to be high-level Pfizer court information to the leaking of American citizens being denied security clearances.
	It looks like a pattern.
	Yeah, looks like a pattern.
	What's the pattern?
	Pattern is to undermine the president.
	The pattern is the intelligence community into the cloak of secrecy with top secret information that normally never gets leaked to hurt anybody they can in and around and surrounding the president.
	They're really, you know, this is stuff of spy novels, but it's all very important.
	Obama sent his ambassador to Russia before he was even elected.
	Remember the former U.S. official, well, you know, U.S. officials said that building a case against Flynn would be daunting because the law against U.S. citizens interfering with the foreign uh diplomacy known as the Logan Act is from 1799 and it's never been prosecuted.
	There's no case history here to help guide authorities.
	That's not really what's in play here.
	And so if it's not a legal issue, as the White House counsel told the president, as Sean Spicer and Kellyanne relayed today, then the only thing that I guess is left that for any of us to know is that, okay, then I guess it had to do with General Flynn not being totally and completely honest and revealing to m Vice President Mike Pence all that had taken place.
	Um you know, Mike McFall, who served as U.S. ambassador to Russia during the Obama administration, says he was in Moscow meeting with officials in the weeks leading up to Obama's election win.
	Wow.
	They even were doing it before.
	WikiLeaks gotta give them some standing gear.
	They'd never been wrong, have they?
	Released a statement this morning saying General Flynn was brought down by spies in the Obama administration working hand in glove with the alt-left fake news media.
	Wow.
	Pretty scary.
	I wonder what they have.
	And also we learned today from the UK Guardian, whether it's true or not, I can't confirm, but that the Pfizer Court turned down an FBI request to wiretap Flynn.
	Unbelievable.
	Unbelievable.
	All right, let's get to our busy telephones here as we move forward.
	Susan is in California.
	Susan, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
	Hey, Sean.
	You know, I'm just so disgusted.
	I I I mean, I'm not only at California with our governor and our legislatures, it's treasonous what they've done with the dam.
	But the fact now that they've they've leaked these conversations with Flynn, I mean, the American people see this, and I swear it's gonna backfire as a Californian and and as somebody who used to be in the film business, and I I it's not going anywhere.
	These people have lost their minds, they have their panties in a wad, and it's treasonous.
	The fact that the media and whoever is working at the White House that is leaking this stuff, it it's just it's embarrassing.
	And and watching this train wreck happen with the Democrats is just embarrassing, and and their neglect for for the American people is embarrassing and and just uh horrendous.
	Uh, if I was the Justice Department, I would investigate where these leaks came from, and I would have a special eye on whether or not they're related to Obama officials and holdovers from the Obama administration, because I'm pretty sure that's probably what happened here.
	Anyway, I Well, you know they have to be.
	Yeah, of course.
	Listen, they're they're leaking like this.
	It's it it has to be.
	This is a political attack.
	And it we're using now our intelligence has been politicized.
	This is a big problem.
	Now, this is not the first time.
	This has happened a lot of times.
	Anyway, good observation, good call.
	Thank you.
	Uh, Kate is in Houston, Texas, KTRH.
	Hey, Sean, I got two things I want to talk to you about.
	And the second thing I hope we get you because it's gonna be in a little agreement with my friend there, Linda.
	So I just want to tell you.
	Well, whoa, whoa, Linda's ears just perked up.
	Linda, you better put your microphone on now so I don't have to order you.
	Well, come on, Linda.
	Well, I'm a lady, I'm gonna let Kate finish.
	She's gonna support me on my second point.
	Okay, so the first point I just gotta tell you, I am heartbroken over what has happened to General Flynn.
	He's a three-star general, a man of incredible integrity, his record impeccable, and he's having to lead in the shame and the media baby him out in the way that he's being branded out.
	I can't tell you how disgusted I am.
	I saw that in the middle of the night last night, and I just couldn't even really sleep.
	I would wake up at three o'clock and woke up at four, and I'm thinking about this poor man.
	It's not just him, it's Kellyanne Conway.
	It's Sean Spicer, who I like to call Sean Spicy because he's rather spicy when he gets out there and he starts talking.
	I mean, they're going after anybody and any anyone, like you were saying from the beginning, around Trump, as if they were going after the witches in the same trial.
	These are not the people that the media is making them not to be, and yet everyone has collectively lost their brain and being able to process information.
	I'm really disgusted.
	You have every you have every right to be because but you gotta understand something here.
	And I get it.
	I I I have done monologues on this radio program On television.
	Right.
	They are not your friends.
	No.
	They know it.
	We're paying these the thing that is also interesting to me about the whole Congress.
	I mean, we've got people singing folk songs on the Capitol Steps.
	And they're giving out all this information and they're feeding the media the media backlash, right?
	These are people that I think everyone needs to who is listening to your show right now, recognize we pay them.
	We are the ones that hire them.
	They are working for us.
	And we don't seem to be able to get that message clear off enough.
	We did with Trump, but we gotta do it again and get all these buna fix.
	I mean, seriously, when Nancy Pelosi starts talking, does anybody really think it's like your grandmother that you're worried, you know, at a party?
	What is she gonna say?
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like she's one shy of the full fifty-two.
	I honestly don't know how she gets re-elected every time.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I understand completely.
	Uh look, okay.
	You know, I I said to uh people that were going into the White House that I know that I'm friendly with I said, listen, trust me, corporate politics and uh for example there's politics in every business.
	I I don't know if you've if you're in business or you've been in an office environment.
	There's politics everywhere.
	One of a really important decision I made very early in my TV career is I'm I'm in the building maybe an hour and a half a day.
	That's it.
	I show up at my airtime to do my show.
	And in and I have an office here at radio and nobody bothers me, and I'm alone all day.
	I like to be alone and doing my preparation.
	Look at those people.
	I'm looking at them and they're all nodding their head affirmatively as we speak.
	And I do uh listen, I I really do.
	I have the best team in radio and the best team in television.
	And I agree.
	And I'm gonna talk about what Linda and I just we totally agree about, okay?
	All right.
	The other day you were getting a little spicy and you were like, you know, Linda, she cusses every time she opens up her mouth and blah, blah, blah.
	And she said, well, you know Linda curses it all the time.
	Linda can put your story.
	Well, yeah, but she threw it back at you and she said, you know, you've been getting it all the time.
	Now here's the thing.
	You've got little fans, four of them being my children.
	Yeah and they love you.
	Uncle Sean, you know, they love you.
	Thank you.
	And you've been throwing out this word that is used in the Bible, but you're not using it in the biblical sense.
	Oh boy.
	What is it?
	Okay, it's the ASF.
	Is that a bad is talking about Is that a bad word?
	Maybe talking about donkeys, you know, but you're not in every time.
	Every time you say that word, my kids are like Can you just say R for goodness sakes?
	Just say A R S S. What if we had what if we had like a little agreement where he wasn't allowed to say it until after four o'clock?
	Okay, okay.
	That's my big thing is you can't curse in front of the kids.
	At 3 o'clock the kids are in the car on the way home and we have to educate them.
	So we'll just curse it differently.
	Although we're in different time zones.
	When it's four o'clock here, it's three o'clock central time.
	Okay.
	Well, in the first hour of the show, in the first hour of the show, if you're in a car with your kids.
	No, no, no.
	I can't make this prom listen, I gotta be real, Kate, and this is the way real people talk.
	Oh.
	Even I know you've got to call it.
	You want to spell it?
	Maybe we'll start spelling it.
	You can just like back it up.
	You want me to say, oh, don't you?
	Kate, I love you, but if he starts saying donkeys in the Bible, I gotta go home.
	It's just not gonna work.
	I don't think that's gonna fly.
	It's just not gonna work.
	I love you, girl, but it's uh no.
	All right, listen, I love you.
	You're asking, you said she would agree that you have no she has the worst potty mouth of anybody on this team by far.
	Admittedly so, but I don't do it on the air like some people.
	Ass is not a bad word.
	Arse is not a bad word.
	Arse, ass.
	You can't even say it right now.
	If you just say it.
	Even in five thirty, he can't get it right.
	But all it is to Uncle Sean, he's the best ever.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for helping him.
	I don't know.
	I I've never I never use really bad words in front of my kids.
	But my daughter try to tell my kids.
	Well when I say that, when I say that word in front of my daughter, she still hits me.
	I think no the big problem is when they are able to spell.
	Once they start spelling all bets are all they know, listen, I I have in a will certain provisions in my will.
	Uh huh.
	And I've told my kids about this.
	I'm not allowed to curse in your eulogy.
	No, no, no.
	No, I want you to.
	I want people to celebrate.
	Because otherwise I can't tell you a life story.
	Okay.
	So here's the truth about uh so I would tell my daughter, well, I put in there a certain legal thing that for you and your brother, and uh, you know, when you have to explain it to somebody else in your life, just say, My dad was a crazy talk show host.
	There's nothing I can do.
	He was just nuts.
	The best talk show host.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That was very nice, Kate.
	Thank you.
	Kate, love you.
	You know, all right.
	Oh, but as a matter of fact, stay on the line.
	We'll send Trump and Sherry's berries to you guys.
	Happy Valentine's Day.
	Oh, thank you.
	All right, stay on the line.
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