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Feb. 14, 2017 - Sean Hannity Show
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You know, there's a lot of fun stories to get this week started, and I think we need a little bit of fun in our lives, but we got serious news today as well.
This whole battle never seems to stop, which is, of course, the battle over whether or not we're going to protect our country.
I cannot believe we're still having this debate, and it just gets more and more incendiary and insane by the minute, by the day.
And the level of ignorance out there is spectacular, especially among the media elites, the arrogant, pompous jackasses in the media and their cohorts.
And funny side note on all of this, there was a report out today.
Is this true?
This might be, come on, this has to be made up.
Did CNN really get kicked out of Venezuela after the country's president accused the network of spreading fake news?
I can't believe I've read it and I just died laughing.
It was on zerohedge.com.
And anyway, it goes on to say, while tensions between Trump and CNN are dying down, which is not true, a new scandal has erupted in the cable news network after Venezuela's president Maduro said on Sunday he wanted CNN out of the country accusing them of spreading fake news.
I'm like, wow, maybe the dictators are beginning to get what I've known for a long time too.
And there was even another story.
Poor Bernie Sanders was on CNN.
I don't know what they did to him, but apparently he claimed that there was fake news as well.
There's a whole story about this that they pulled the plug.
Do you have that tape?
No, okay.
It is a funny story that Bernie Sanders was a guest on CNN to talk about Trump's refusal to comment on the report about Mike Flynn, which I'll get to in a minute, and his contacts with the Russian ambassador before he was inaugurated.
And the interviewer is Aaron Burnett.
I don't actually one of the few people that seems normal over there.
And it's interesting to know without Sanders talking, how she both asks her question and then kind of sock-pucketed, puppeted the answer.
And it sounds like it's pretty funny.
So they, anyway, I don't know if you've heard.
Here's what he said when asked about the report on Flynn on his flight to Mar-a-Lago today and his flight landed about an hour ago.
This was on Friday.
And he said, I don't know.
I haven't seen it.
Trump said, and he said the report that he talked to the ambassador from Russia before he was inaugurated about sanctions.
He said, I haven't seen that.
Burnett says he says he knows nothing about it.
He hasn't seen any of the reports.
Is that a problem?
Sanders writes, I don't know.
Maybe he was watching CNN fake news.
What do you think?
She goes, I don't buy it.
It was a joke.
He said, I know it's a joke.
I'm saying, you know, you don't buy what he says.
And then Sanders says, Aaron?
And she goes, yes.
Says, I'm sorry, Senator.
You obviously don't buy what he said.
You believe he has seen these reports, so pause.
And then Sanders says, I'm not.
Are we on?
It's so funny.
And then it looks like they lose the connection with Senator Sanders.
Burnett goes, just as soon as he's calling CNN fake news.
I assume it was an accident.
I mean, but the timing couldn't be any better.
You don't think it was an accident?
Well, you can say it.
I don't have any evidence.
So, I mean, they're really getting in trouble.
Chris Cuomo stepped all over it the other day on his program when he made a comparison that the worst thing you can say about a journalist, and then you backtrack later.
You know, by the way, welcome to my world.
This has been the world I have lived and worked in my entire career.
And if they weren't so abusively biased, it wouldn't be that big a deal.
I turned on, literally, I turned on over the weekend, CNN for like five seconds by accident.
It was not on purpose.
And, you know, I was around the Fox News channel and I have Dish TV and I turn around and I just watched a little bit.
Andrew Sullivan and like somebody else, they're all saying that Trump's mentally ill.
That's like the new thing that they're trying to push.
You know, the media's devotion.
You know what?
It's their lazy, the double standard for America.
They now see through this so crystal clear.
They spot it like I have spotted it for decades.
And Americans can now see, oh, okay, that's your biased point of view.
This isn't news.
We don't buy your crap anymore.
And they're, you know, more and more, these networks do not compete with the Fox News channel.
They do not even get into the same arena.
It's like we're up here and, you know, they're like, we're one, they're 40.
This is no comparison.
All right, maybe they're 25.
I don't know.
I don't really pay that much attention.
I know people don't believe when I say that, but I don't pay that much attention to it.
800-941 Sean is what Tollfree telephone.
Oh, you know what else was a cool story?
So I didn't watch the Grammy Awards.
Did you watch the Grammy Awards?
All right.
So there's a singer who shows up in a Make America Great Again dress.
Linda pointed out, because I don't spend, in spite of my Twitter wars, I don't spend a lot of time on Twitter.
I don't read a lot of Twitter.
I just like to tweet.
And, you know, that's where I get my fighting in rather than wasting precious airtime.
And I got an hour ride to and from work every day and I'm bored stiff.
No, I don't tweet while I'm driving.
I wait at a stoplight and then I'll throw out a tweet.
And anyway, so this woman, and I'd never heard of her before, and I'm thinking, wow, that's pretty cool.
And I saw it, and you said that she got eviscerated on social media, like beaten up really bad, which is too bad.
But in the middle of all of this, the left-wing performers that were there, she comes up with the Make America Great Again dress.
She looks, by the way, a whole lot better than Madonna or Ashley Judd, even Madonna in her prime.
But anyway, the singer-songwriter's name is Joy Villa, and she made a political statement by wearing the dress on the red carpets, which I think in that environment was an incredibly courageous thing to do, knowing how off the rails the left is in the country today.
So she wore a bright blue dress, really, very pretty, really nice.
It says Make America Great Again across the front of her gown going up her gown.
And I thought it was really cool.
Trump on the back.
And then on the red carpet, she initially wore a white cover-up of the gown, removing it to reveal this thing, which is so cool because whenever a singer or somebody in Hollywood wants to get famous, they usually show up in like what I call the J-Lo dress.
Because you want to get noticed, you show up in the J-Lo kind of dress, or you show up with major cleavage hanging out.
And that then becomes the talked about item at whatever the awards ceremony.
Let's pat ourselves on the back ceremony that they always have with these things.
Anyway, so she wore this thing.
And guess what happened?
Oh, I have some news to make.
CBS News reports that sales of Joy Villa's music has, quote, their words, CBS, alt-left radical media, not me, skyrocketed after she wore the pro-Trump dress to the Grammys with the words Make America Great and Trump on them.
Anyway, she's also climbing the charts on iTunes.
She tweeted out her reaction to this newfound fame.
She said, quote, I'm speechless.
You, my amazing fans and supporters, have put me to number 16 on iTunes Top.
All right, do me a favor, download some of her songs for me because you know I'm stupid.
And I write you over the weekend.
How many times did I write you about technical phone questions this week?
I just go to you because you always have the answer.
A friend of mine is trying to figure something out, and you just help me like immediately.
On Instagram, she explained the controversial.
Look, she said, go big or go home.
Stand for what you believe or fall for what you don't.
Above all, make a choice for tolerance and love.
Agree to disagree.
That's like the smartest thing that's ever come out of any actress, actor, or singer in the history of the country.
Good for her.
I'm now going to listen to her music.
Have you listened to it?
Do you like it?
People can't see you shouting.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Yes, I actually, I had never heard of her either, and I just went and looked at her, and she's got some very, she's good.
I mean, she's better than J-Lo, who said during her speech last night that it's time to get to work against the president.
And she was showing all of her assets and made plenty of news with them as usual, but made sure to bash the president while she did it.
But Joy Villa did a glad I didn't watch it.
I literally, I went to Michael W. Smith's concert at Carnegie Hall.
I never saw there was 270 people on that stage.
I tweeted out a picture of it.
If you want to go to my Twitter account at Sean Hannah, I saw that picture of the choir in the full orchestra.
It was beautiful.
It was beautiful.
And it was, he, I, did you wear a tuxedo?
Get out of here.
You think I'm wearing a tuxedo?
I did wear a shirt and a jacket and jeans, but I didn't wear a tie.
I can't stand it.
A guy gave me a bow tie.
And I'm like, I've never worn a bow tie in my life.
It was a nice kid.
I'm like, who gave you a bow tie?
A nice kid comes up to me and goes, I make ties.
And he gives me one.
He gives me a bow tie.
I'm like, give me a normal tie.
And I don't wear bow ties.
It was nice of him, though.
I appreciated it.
So let me tell you what's going on.
And this is one of our top stories.
Of course, the vetting issue is another top story today, but we've got a lot of things that are happening at once.
You've got everything and everyone around the president now is going to be vilified.
You've got to understand, this is not a game anymore.
It started with the vicious and vile and cruel attacks against Donald Trump's 10-year-old son, Baron.
Now, I think I'm probably one of maybe the only people in media that has actually met Barron.
And I can tell you that this is a great kid.
He literally, Milani introduced him to me.
This is Mr. Hannity.
He works at the Fox News channel.
And he goes, Hi, Mr. Hannity.
It's an honor to meet you.
Shakes my hand the way you'd want any 10-year-old kid to do it, look me in the eye.
Great kid.
And I've seen him a couple of other times.
And what they did to him was beyond cruel, and it was widespread.
And if it ever happened with Malia or Sasha, I would have been just as angry.
Leave children the hell alone of politicians and public figures.
It's none of your business.
None whatsoever.
And the fact that a kid at four in the morning or three in the morning is tired, that's called being normal.
That's, I fidget and I'm 55.
And the things they said about this kid were just cruel.
And I'm telling you from experience, not true.
The kid's brilliant.
Really, really cool, nice, normal, great kid.
All right, that's one.
Then Ivanka.
Really?
Oh, she wore her own piece of jewelry on 60 Minutes.
And one of her assistants, as per usual practice, if she's in the public, they tweeted out something that said, oh, you can see her particular line of jewelry.
The media made a huge deal about that.
All right, Ivanka's a big girl.
She can handle it.
She's in the political arena.
You really want to go after Ivanka?
You really want to beat up on a woman?
Oh, because if a conservative did it, that would be how it's described.
Then Eric Trump, who I've known a long time, he's so motivated by his philanthropy.
I think it's St. Jude's.
My mind is going blank here.
But he'd raised tens of millions of dollars over the years.
And his father, being a nice guy, would say, go use my facility here or my facility here.
And that was his father's donation to help his son who cares about other people in the case of St. Jude's children.
So now the latest victim in this is Donald Trump Jr.
By the way, Donald and Eric and Ivanka, they're adults.
They can handle themselves.
Guys, you really want to pick on a girl?
Really?
Anyway, so he sends his son to a school, and these people are writing blogs about, oh, I don't know if I want to send my kid to the school.
Don't go there.
Don't go there.
It's unbelievable.
Now we're attacking 10-year-old kids, women, and we're attacking the grandchildren of the president, which is how pathetic this has gotten.
Now, when we come back, I'm going to explain how it goes even deeper.
Every single person around the president is also being isolated, Alinsky 101, and demonized.
Kellyanne's gone through it.
Bannon's gone through it.
Stephen Miller's going through it.
And General Flynn is now going through it.
And the level of pettiness is just off the charts.
We'll get to that next.
Stay up to date with the latest news and expert opinions as Donald Trump takes office.
And hang on.
Whenever Jamie Dupree sends something, I got to pay attention to it.
You know, a lot of you ask about Jamie all the time, and Jamie has had voice issues for about a year now, right?
About that.
Jamie still works on the show.
He's still in Washington.
He's still doing a phenomenal job.
We love him dearly.
It was my frustration in life that I could never get an opinion out of the guy, and I tried so hard.
But he's actually on the mend, and we have really high hopes that hopefully he'll be back on the air pretty shortly.
But, you know, it's difficult.
I knew a guy in Huntsville, Alabama.
His vocal cords froze.
I mean, early in my career, I got a contract and I got insurance from Lloyds of London because I'd have to give money back.
And it was a fortune.
Don't ever go there.
Lloyds of London.
They're so expensive.
Oh, my gosh.
It's ridiculous.
But anyway, our thoughts and prayers are with him.
Good thing is he's in great spirits.
He's working hard.
It's just that his voice has had some difficulty.
And by the way, we don't care if it doesn't have to be perfect when he comes back.
We all know that, you know, when he's ready, we'll put him back on.
He says no appeal to the Supreme Court at this time, which we knew.
New papers just filed with the district judge in Washington asking for a delay in any proceedings.
The DOJ wants to wait and see if the full Ninth Circuit will hear the case.
No word on any revised order or new executive order being issued this week, which kind of dovetails into what I had been saying is you've got this whole, you now have an infrastructure where the radical alt-left is moving into any town hall that any congressman or woman is having, that they are going to try and tie Donald Trump up in knots and in the courts.
And they're hoping that the judicial activists like Obama's picks will help them advance an agenda they can never get done at the ballot box or persuade the American people to go along with legislatively.
So that's why they like to legislate from the bench, as we say.
And the other thing that's happening, and I'll get into more details after the bottom of the hour news, but the other thing that's happening is anybody that surrounds the president, I mentioned all of his children, now they're attacking this man's grandchildren.
And it also look what they did to Kellyanne.
Kellyanne said, oh, commercial by Ivanka's stuff because they were brutalizing her and politicized it at Nordstrom, which I confirm from a great Nordstrom connection.
Now they're going after Steve Bannon.
They're hitting Steve Miller as a really smart young man.
And then they're going to go after Mike Flynn, and they're going to try and pick him off one at a time.
You know why?
Because the media is lazy and the media has a radical alt-left agenda.
And I'll remind them, journalism is dead.
You guys killed it.
I just got more data.
And by the way, this is the young girl, Joy Villa, is her name, who went to the Grammys with the Make America Great on the front of her side of her dress, I guess, and then Trump on the back of her dress.
It turns out that her CD, I guess, I make the static, and you heard some of it there.
That was the song Vagabonds.
What was the other song that we played?
I'd never heard her before.
I like it.
Might be slightly overproduced, but she has a beautiful voice.
No, I think the production value could be just a hair better.
It was too much, it was too tinny a little bit.
I'm just being, I'm giving honest credit.
Do I ever not be honest?
Seriously.
But I liked it.
I liked it a lot.
I thought it was really well done.
And I didn't know this, but it jumped to number one on Amazon's top digital albums and still number one today.
There's a message for you, Hollywood and you musical nitwits out there that know nothing about politics.
Good for her.
Can you, I'll tell you what else?
Put a link on our website for her.
Put it up there.
You know, people want to get it.
They may not know how.
They may be dumb like me electronically.
And, you know, you're not exactly helpful.
Put your microphone on.
So this weekend, I'm with a friend of mine and he's having a little problem with his, with his instant message.
What do you call it?
His iMessage?
No, text.
His text messaging, also known as iMessaging?
Right, because I sent him a text and then he writes me, What's the matter?
You won't answer my questions.
And I'm like, I send it again.
And what happened?
So I call him.
I said, what are you talking about?
I've sent you four texts.
God forbid you had to make a phone call as opposed to texting somebody.
Oh, my word.
So I look, I have my kids download my apps for me.
I don't know.
I'm shocked to hear that.
Well, they got to earn their earned their bed and their rent.
They got to pay rent in some capacity.
Yes, of course.
And if dad wants a download, just do it.
What's the big deal for them?
It's seconds.
They actually get impatient.
And they're like, Dad, just give me the phone.
Give me the phone.
I'll do it.
That would be me.
Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
Done.
Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, done.
And it's amazing.
It's actually annoying because I just have no interest to try and get beyond the usage of my phone.
If I wanted to use more of my phone, I would spend the time.
I'd read the handbook.
I don't ever want to read a how-to handbook in my life.
It's monotonous.
And when I have somebody like Linda works for me who knows all of it, why do I have to bother?
But the problem is.
So you're saying I'm an enabler.
No.
So the problem is I can't, he's not getting my messages.
So I'm like, all right, he's not getting my message.
What do you got to do?
And then you start talking about docking.
And I said, docking, I'm not talking about a dock.
I'm not talking about phishing.
I'm talking about just the iPhone.
I wrote you that.
I said, I'm not talking about it.
No, I just was trying to explain to you because you wanted to, you know, we were talking about syncing.
Number one, I use a PC.
I don't use an Apple.
I don't use a Mac.
Right.
It sounded like he used a Mac, the way you were describing the problem.
You didn't give that information to me, so I had to deduce it through the Seanisms, and I was able to deduce it.
And I said, no, it's on iPhone.
We're texting on iPhone.
We're not using a dock.
No, but your question was about syncing.
So I had to tell you how to do it.
Because he hit a button and it didn't accept my text.
And so I wanted to.
Well, the bottom line is we got it done, didn't we?
It took about five minutes, but we got it done.
Well, no, because you had an initial question, then you had a follow-up question because silly me, I had to say, let me know if you need anything else.
Stupid woman.
That was really dumb.
That was so stupid.
That was really.
Silly, silly, silly girl.
Yeah, because then that's when the docking start stuff started kicking in.
What are you talking about?
In 30 seconds, we fixed the initial problem.
I should have just stopped there.
And then he asked one other question.
I'm like, all right, I'll ask her.
I was like five seconds away from saying, can I have his number and I'll just call him?
Keep you out of it.
It would have made my day because I started getting aggravated because you give me all these terms.
And then you finally explained.
If you have a Mac, because I use a PC, okay, there's a difference.
And I use a PC because that's what I know.
And there are like three things in life that throw me over the edge.
When something breaks, I hate it.
When my computer in this room doesn't work, our studio, it drives me nuts.
And all I keep saying is, all I'm asking for is a computer that works.
That's not too much.
All I want.
Now, I've got one, two, three, four, five computers and two televisions in the studio, which is perfect because I have ADHD.
If I was a kid in school today, I guarantee you, when all the other kids line up for their riddling, I would be on that line.
They would have loved to riddle at me as a kid.
I don't think it existed back in my day.
But if I was in school today, definitely on the line.
Oh, they would have loved it.
They probably would have given me something else, like to calm me down, you know, turn me into a zombie, which I think schools would like to do to some of the kids.
Meanwhile, I'm just being a regular kid.
That's what kids do.
Kids don't, they're not interested in your stupid lectures about Paradise Lost or your lectures about Dante's Inferno, which, by the way, since I've read it as an adult, I love it.
Absolutely go crazy.
I can't.
It's so cool.
But when I was young, when they were teaching it, I think in ninth grade, we had to read Dante's Inferno.
I'm like, oh, man.
Oh, you're killing me.
You know, then the summer before, you had to read The Old Man in the Sea, which was a good, I actually liked that one.
I got along with Ernest Hemingway.
Okay.
He was pretty cool.
It was a great story about the Merlin, about the long fight.
And all these, you know, all the classics they made us read all that stuff.
But then when I got older and I didn't have a TV for five years, that's when I read all the Harvard classics.
And I had a whole set of them.
They were called the Harvard Classics.
And I started to get a real education once I got out of school.
It's so funny.
You know, I love these stories when they write about me occasionally.
And I've gone through this my whole career.
Rush Limbaugh drop out.
Sean Hannity, drop out.
It's this, I'm like, really?
Rush is the most successful broadcaster.
Single-handedly, the guy saved AM radio.
I mean, it paved the way for all of us in radio.
He's a genius.
He has a take on things that he thinks at a level I don't think at.
He thinks differently than I do.
Mark has gifts that nobody else has.
I do a show very differently.
And that's why when they talk about talk radio generally, this election proved more than ever, we're not all alike.
We don't all agree on everything.
And I think that's good for listeners.
And even if you were never Trump talk show host, whatever.
I don't care.
They hate me, but I don't hate them.
They attacked me.
I'd only respond.
Well, I kind of broke that rule earlier today on Twitter.
I don't like bullies.
I just don't.
And I refuse to, you know, I'll tell you a story.
I'm going to tell you the Vinny story.
So there's this kid in grammar school who was like the smartest math kid in the whole class.
I won't give his name.
I don't want to embarrass him.
And then there was this other kid who was like a rich blue-blood brat.
And he punched this kid.
And I like threw him up against the wall.
I said, don't touch this kid.
What are you doing?
You don't do that.
I met this guy years later when we were in Phoenix, and he remembered it.
I was stunned.
And, of course, he's successful because he was brilliant.
He was the smartest guy.
How old were you when that happened?
I think seventh or eighth grade.
Mrs. Schneider hated my guts.
I had her for two grades.
Oh, she was awful.
She wore the worst perfume, too.
It was horrible.
It was just, I was like, oh, God, get away with that.
Oh, geez.
Never forget it.
She was not nice to me.
Why?
I have to be nice to them when they're not nice to me.
She was not a nice person to me.
And there's even a worse story that, you know, one day when I pass away, John Gomez will tell the whole world what happened in fifth grade.
Teacher started hitting all the boys.
Yeah, twisting their ears, pulling their hair, because apparently the boys were bad that day.
In other words, boys were being boys.
They were being normal.
All of this to me, I put in the category of being normal.
And I just was not having it.
Let's put it that way.
Don't put your hands on me.
And I stood up for myself.
And I didn't get thrown out of school either.
I didn't.
I'm not letting anyone touch me.
I would never happen.
And you guys make fun of my ninja.
I was a ninja before I knew what ninja is and martial arts.
All right, let me finish my thought.
I'm digressing a lot here today, and I apologize for that.
So everybody around the president is being attacked.
Kellyanne, even his 10-year-old son, now his grandson, then his children, Ivanka.
Really?
We're picking on girls and little kids.
Eric Trump, Don Jr.'s son.
I mean, it's unbelievable to me that that's happening.
What is going on here is a very organized effort to vilify and demonize anybody associated with the president.
There's even a really good article by Paul Sperry today writing that, you know, Obama's setting up a shadow White House.
And I have a friend on the down low that thinks that Obama set this up with some executive orders.
He told me today.
I'm now looking into it.
But anyway, this was from a New York Post story that Sperry did and is setting up a shadow White House for organizing anti-Trump protests nationwide and rebuilding the ravaged Democratic Party.
Of course he is.
It's exactly what I predicted he would do because everything he's done in the last eight years is pretty much being wiped out daily.
You know, then now you've got a new narrative emerging here.
You know, Jim Webb said there's a campaign on Capitol Hill and the media and academia, senator from Virginia and 2016 Democratic presidential, vice presidential, 2016 presidential candidate underway in Capitol Hill and the media and academia to personally discredit Donald Trump.
Then you got guys like Bill Maher.
You know, Trump is mentally ill.
Al Franken questioning his health.
I saw two guys on CNN this weekend questioning his mental health.
Al Franken saying that Pocahontas' nickname for lying Liz Warren is racist.
She's not a minority, you idiot.
There are people talking about him running for president.
And you have militants now.
We have people being paid to attack.
They're going after Kellyanne and Steve Bannon and now Steve Miller and they're going to rind some sures on the list somewhere there and they're going to go after him.
By the way, you know who warned everybody about this?
Hello?
Me.
I told every person that I know this is what's going to happen.
And this is how they're going to do it.
Go to the Grammys last night.
You got Buster Rhymes.
Is he still even out there?
I haven't heard from him in 15 years.
Anyway, referred to President Donald Trump as President Agent Orange.
Oh, so creative.
And this is what they want to do.
They want to demonize.
The problem is, what Trump is doing, all of these establishments are being destroyed.
Fake news is devastating to the news media.
Being called out as often as they are and exposed is devastating.
WikiLeaks was devastating for them.
So they're upset.
Then the good old boys in D.C., including Republicans, they don't like it either because now they may have to actually work for a living and may have to fulfill a promise even though it's controversial.
So you got the Republican establishment against Trump.
And then you've got the Democratic establishment obviously against Trump.
So they're going to go after everyone around him, suggest he's mentally unstable.
Meanwhile, he's rolling up his hands, working harder than anybody with shock and awe and real movement in D.C. What?
Vetting refugees from other countries that have ties in some way to terror, building a wall, but saying you're putting a door in the wall.
Jorge Ramos is on Hannity tonight.
Wow.
We're going to get into it.
It's going to be fun.
Or the economy to stimulate growth and create jobs for people in Detroit, Milwaukee, Cleveland, or getting rid of the disaster Obamacare $5,400 increase.
That's before this year's increases, making America energy independent.
You know, what do you think the NEA is going to do when he starts giving local communities choice and education?
They're going to go nuts.
This is all predictable.
And here's my message to anybody that has a backbone in Washington.
They're never going to like you.
You know what I've gotten over being liked?
I don't care if these media people or political people like me.
I don't like them.
I don't like that's I don't like how they roll.
They don't like how I roll.
I'm fine with that.
That's why I don't go to Washington Correspondence Dinner.
You know, I gave my, you think I should go this year.
Why do you think I should go this year and sit in a room of people that hate me and I hate them?
Why would I want to do that?
This is your year.
No, it's not my year.
I'm going to stay home and watch it on TV like I always do.
It's not my year.
You're from the Department of Justice, if I understand correctly.
Yeah.
Yes.
So you're aware of law enforcement.
How many arrests have there been of foreign nationals for those seven countries since 9-11?
Your Honor, I don't have that information.
I'm from the civil division, if that helps.
Get me off the hook anyway.
Well, let me tell you, the answer to that is none, as best I can tell.
So, I mean, you know, you're here arguing on behalf of someone that says we have to protect the United States from these individuals coming from these countries, and there's no support for that.
Your Honor, I think the point is that because this is a question of foreign affairs, because this is an area where Congress has delegated authority to the president to make these determinations, it's the president that gets to make the determinations, and the court doesn't have authority to look behind those determinations.
They're essentially like determinations that are committed to agency discretion.
And we do think that despite plaintiff's claim that Klein's the Manzal is directly on point, and that if the four corners of the executive order offer a facially legitimate and bona fide reason for it, which they do here, that the court can't look behind that.
Well, Council, I understand that from your papers, and you very forcefully presented that argument.
But I'm also asked to look and determine if the executive order is rationally based.
And rationally based to me implies that to some extent I have to find it grounded in facts as opposed to fiction.
We all agree on the need to better secure the border and to punish employers who choose to hire illegal immigrants.
You know, we are a generous and welcoming people here in the United States, but those who enter the country illegally and those who employ them disrespect the rule of law and they are showing disregard for those who are following the law.
We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked, and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently, and lawfully to become immigrants.
Please use your executive order to halt deportations for all 11.5 undoing.
We agree that we need to have immediate reforms at the same time.
That's why I draw.
And that's why we're here.
Here's the problem that I have, Jose, and I've said this consistently.
My job in the executive branch is supposed to be to carry out the laws that are passed.
Congress has said, here's the law when it comes to those who are undocumented, and they allocate a whole bunch of money for enforcement.
It's something that I've struggled with throughout my presidency.
The problem is that I'm the President of the United States.
I'm not the Emperor of the United States.
My job is to execute laws that are passed.
And Congress right now has not changed what I consider to be a broken immigration system.
And what that means is that we have certain obligations to enforce the laws that are in place, even if we think that in many cases the results may be tragic.
Now, what you need to know, when I'm speaking as President of the United States, and I come to this community, is that if, in fact, I could solve all these problems without passing laws in Congress, then I would do so.
But we're also a nation of laws.
That's part of our tradition.
And so the easy way out is to try to yell and pretend like I can do something by violating our laws.
And what I'm proposing is the harder path, which is to use our democratic processes to achieve the same goal that you want to achieve.
But it won't be as easy as just shouting.
It requires us lobbying and getting it done.
But if we start broadening that, then essentially I would be ignoring the law in a way that I think would be very difficult to defend legally.
So that's not an option.
And I do get a little worried that advocates of immigration reform start losing heart and immediately thinking, well, somehow there's an out here.
If Congress doesn't act, we'll just have the president sign something and that'll take care of it and we won't have to worry about it.
What I've said is that there's a path to get this done, and that's through Congress.
And we've kind of stretched our administrative flexibility as much as we can.
And that's why making sure that we get comprehensive immigration reform done is so important.
It is going to require work.
It is not simply a matter of us just saying we're going to violate the law.
That's not our tradition.
He did it anyway.
He violated what he said was illegal and unconstitutional anyway.
And then you hear him talking about immigration just a few years earlier and he sounds an awful like Donald Trump.
And Coulter's with us, the author of In Trump We Trust, E. Pluribus Awesome.
What's up, Madam Coulter?
How are you?
Fine, thanks.
I'm a little disturbed by the uselessness of Republicans in Congress.
Ah, you and me both.
Have you heard me ranting about it?
No.
Now, what does that mean?
I'm going to be impeaching this Judge Ropart immediately.
What are they doing over there?
This is really, I don't think people understand how outrageous this is.
There is absolutely no question but that the President of the United States has the authority to exclude anyone, anyone he wants, including permanent residents, I might add, though that's not what this order does.
And what you played at the beginning there with the judge getting into the policy behind it, what you see on TV of, well, but are they really that dangerous?
Okay, well, besides the fact that factually these are the seven countries designated by the Obama administration under Secretary of State Hillary Clinton as terrorist nations, or as the State Department began to call that under Madeline Albright, countries of particular concern.
These were the seven countries designated by Obama and Hillary Clinton.
This is a two-month ban or three-month, whatever it is, pause so we can figure out how to let them in.
Idea that a federal judge would come in and start nitpicking over what the facts are.
And by the way, in the process, getting the facts wrong, as you know, and probably all your listeners know by now, there have been dozens of attacks by people from every one of these seven countries, some I've written about in the past few years, or not attacks by terrorist convictions at a minimum.
That's not only an arrest, that's a conviction.
For 200 years, the Supreme Court has said over and over and over again, the power to exclude aliens is completely in the control of the President of the United States as an extension of foreign policy.
And one case that I wrote about, I was surprised no one else was mentioning in my column last week is, hey, everybody remember Elian Gonzalez?
The Clinton administration policy was to, you know, it was an extension of their love for Stalin and Alger Hiss.
We have to send this kid back to a communist dictatorship, have to send him back.
And it didn't want, the administration didn't want to admit that.
So first they tried deporting Elian as a matter of a child custody case.
And all the Clinton officials were saying, oh, no, this isn't our responsibility.
It's just up to the Florida courts on child custody.
Well, the Florida courts, under proper child custody laws, I might add, said, no, Elian gets to stay in Miami.
Okay, so the Clinton administration goes back to the drawing board.
Then they say, well, Elian has applied for asylum, but you can't apply for asylum if you're only six years old.
That goes to the courts.
And again, the courts find actually there's no age restriction here, Mr. President.
So then, how does the Clinton administration force El Eon to go back to Cuba?
By saying this is our policy.
And at that point, the federal appellate courts in Florida, and you can read the decisions, say, look, we'll concede.
Elian may well be subjected to re-education, to political persecution, to living in a horrible communist dictatorship.
But ha ha, this is the policy of the president.
Our hands are tied.
So when the policy of the president is to promote international communism, the courts step back and wash their hands of it.
No, this is political branches.
And in the Arizona case, under Obama, Arizona didn't want to enforce any laws beyond what the federal law was.
No, they just said, our state is being overwhelmed with illegal aliens.
We want to have our law enforcement officers simply enforce written laws on the books signed by the president, passed by both houses of Congress.
And the Supreme Court found, at least for those provisions of the law, no, you can't.
If the president's policy is we're not enforcing federal immigration law, you have to stand down states.
That's how powerful this principle of constitutional law, that the president controls who comes in, who doesn't come in, how to enforce immigration laws.
This is a political matter.
The courts, I mean, literally going back to the Chinese exclusion cases, probably before that, have said over and over again, this is part of foreign policy, making treaties, excluding foreigners.
And if the foreigners being excluded, if the leaders of their governments have a problem with that, they deal with the president.
You know what's amazing?
And I love your legal mind because you are able to add that context and texture to your comments, and I think it's appropriate.
But the Constitution is very clear.
Judicial activists on the Ninth Circuit or this guy in Seattle did not have the role as commander-in-chief.
The law, which is, you know, there's no ambiguity whatsoever.
8 U.S.C. 1182, and you've heard it, and I've read it many times on the program.
I won't do it now.
But if the president finds that the entry of any alien or class of aliens into the U.S. is detrimental, he has full and complete authority to take steps to protect the American people.
And for me, Ann, it comes down to a simple question.
Are we willing to inconvenience a few visitors, and it's only going to be a few, for the safety and security of the American people, or are we just going to be so politically correct we'll gamble with the lives of Americans when we know there's an enemy that wants to destroy us?
Well, I think it ought to be a lot more than a few.
I think that is the result, the reason for this election.
The public has been begging for less immigration overall.
Forget the ones from the countries designated by Hillary Clinton State Department as terrorist countries.
For decades now, you ask Americans whether, do you want immigration to stay the same, go up, or be reduced?
Nobody wants it to go up.
And I believe it's been a consistent majority saying, no, fewer, fewer, fewer immigrants.
We've taken in enough.
America needs a break.
We have taken, as I describe in Adios America, for the past several decades, America has taken in more refugees than the entire rest of the world combined.
Our country is not a battered woman's shelter.
We're not here to take in all the charity cases of the world.
This was the point of this election.
Please help us, the American people, including immigrants who have come in.
Stay right there.
I've got to take a break.
We're going to hold you over.
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You mentioned earlier about Republicans.
And, you know, isn't it beyond any comprehension that they don't have a consensus replacement plan for Obamacare that they're talking about, well, maybe they'll get to the president's economic plan when you have all these people out of work in poverty on food stamps.
Well, maybe we'll get to it in the spring.
Maybe it'll be in the summer or the fall.
And I'm like, okay, Donald Trump has done more in three weeks than most presidents accomplish in any given two years, at least.
Why can't they keep up?
Why are they so far behind?
Why are there article after article saying, well, we're not sure if we really want to replace it now when they voted 50 times when it was meaningless to replace it?
No, I know what exactly is the House of Representatives doing?
I mean, the Senate, not that it requires their undivided attention, they do have to pass Trump's nominees.
But what has the House been, are all the House members doing, just having lunch every day?
What is going on over there?
Ann would like to be able to get away from the public.
They're eating in our cafeterias that we pay for and the gyms that we pay for.
Ann would like to be able to buy an insurance plan that will provide cancer coverage.
I'm really sick of this.
Oh, we may, we may not get to it.
And by the way, I think what the holdup is, I could be wrong, but Trump, God bless him, was the first Republican in an awful long time to say, no, I'm not cutting Social Security.
I'm not cutting Medicaid.
Forget this entitlement reform.
And I agree with him.
Americans have paid into it.
And the reason these programs are being bankrupted is that we keep dumping millions of poor people on the country who instantly access Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.
That's why the programs are bankrupt.
So, hey, Paul Ryan, instead of cutting back on my Social Security and my Medicare and completely destroying health insurance with Obamacare, how about you stop signing up poverty-stricken foreigners for these programs?
That's point one.
That is not what Obamacare is.
But they seem to be associating Obamacare as if it's one of these entitlements.
Obviously, Trump was popular in saying, no, I'm going to save these.
I'm going to get the economy going.
I'm going to stop dumping poor people on the country and deport a whole bunch of them, I'm hoping.
You know, illegal aliens, 71% of illegal aliens are on government assistance.
71%.
Until that number is zero, I don't want to hear about how government assistance programs for Americans have to be cut back and the retirement age raised and so on and so forth.
No, no, no.
This is your job.
This is what got Trump elected.
But they've got to stop thinking of Obamacare as something that is the same as Social Security.
Moreover, they're so frustrating, these Republicans.
Do they have no sense of drama and theater?
They need to find people probably more sympathetic than me.
But there are a lot of them out there who have had their health insurance destroyed by Obamacare.
Get young couples who are both self-employed, who can no longer, who are paying massive premiums and cannot be treated by any doctor who went to an American medical school.
I know they're busy.
They're busy working.
You got to get them before Congress.
They ought to be calling doctors who will tell you, as any doctor will, 40% of all the money spent on health care, 40%, 40 cents on a dollar goes to defensive medicine to protect themselves from the trial lawyers.
We want tort reform.
Real quick, we're running out of time.
But listen, Ann.
And we want to buy health insurance on the free market.
The hard cases, as Trump said from the beginning, that's a different case.
Don't worry.
You'll be paid for.
But we don't have time to fly to Washington and protest and lobby and have our exactly to pay for the health insurance of illegal aliens.
And the education and the criminal justice system.
We pay for it all.
And always good to have you.
I miss seeing you.
Hopefully, we'll get to you, get you back when you're in New York.
Let me know.
Okay?
Great to talk to you.
Good to talk to you, Sean.
Bye-bye.
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, we're going to get to D.C. McAllister's column in a minute, but before I go there, look at what's happening to the Trump family.
Now, I've been making the case that anybody that gets anywhere near Donald Trump, all those that surround him, is going to be vilified and demonized.
Let's see, we've gone through Kellyanne Conway.
We've gone through Darth Vader, Steve Bannon.
They're going after Steve Miller and the New York Times and these unwatched cable hosts.
I mean, it's just pathetic.
It's pathetic.
I think the most pathetic thing was, you know, you have a Saturday night live writer attacking a 10-year-old boy.
Imagine if this was Malia or Sasha.
Imagine if it was Chelsea.
And you have that Rosie O'Donnell making some type of medical diagnosis.
Well, Rosie, I know this kid.
This kid's a great kid.
He's smart, intelligent, kind, nice.
He's a great kid.
He's 10 years old.
And they're attacking a little kid.
Then you got, oh, Ivanka.
Oh, what a disaster.
She actually, one of her assistants tweeted out when she was on 60 Minutes that she was wearing a particular bracelet she designed.
You'd think it was the end of the world.
Or Kellyanne Conway, you know, said, well, after what Nordstrom did, and you've got now all these chains attacking the Trumps.
Eric Trump, great guy, raises millions and millions and millions of dollars for kids with cancer.
Doesn't he work with St. Jude's?
Okay, he's not working with St. Jude's anymore because of the backlash of the left attacking, you know, the fact, well, they might be connected to his father in some way when he's giving all the money away or that they're trying to curry favor.
Now it gets even worse, and it shouldn't shock anybody.
But Don Jr. sends his son to a particular school in New York, and one of some anonymous contributors said their son had gotten into the school.
Well, they gave the school, I might as well give it.
It's called the Buckley School.
It's a really well-known school, very difficult to get into.
But she didn't want to send him there because of the son of Donald Trump Jr.
Now, I have a friend of mine who sends his son there, and he told me, Good, you don't belong there because it's such a great place.
And nobody is upset that Donald Trump Jr.'s kids, and I've met them too, and they're amazing, goes to the school.
Just, it's so disgraceful.
Anyway, Emily Shire is joining us, as long as from the Federalist and columnist author DC McAllister.
Welcome both of you to the show.
How are you?
Thanks so much.
I'm pretty well.
I got to believe that if I did what they're doing to the Trump kids, especially the younger ones, that you would, and if I did it to Malia and Sasha, Emily, you'd be pretty angry at me, wouldn't you?
Yeah, you know, the funny thing is, and it's not actually funny, one of Bussell's most trafficked articles was about how you should not at all go after Baron Trump, that it is completely inappropriate, that the Saturday Night Live joke was wrong.
I think there should absolutely be a level of respect and privacy when it comes to minors, even minors in the public eye because their father's president.
Yeah.
Well, you know, I just can't believe you could go after a 10-year-old kid or the grandson of the president of the United States the way this other person did.
What's your reaction to this, D.C. McAllister?
Well, they're going after Ivanka and the picture that she had, she tweeted out a picture of her with her son from the White House, and she was immediately excoriated.
By the way, all she said was taking a call in the White House with my personal assistant, Theodore, who's her son.
Right.
And then this actress comedian tweets out: you know, is this a joke?
You're making a mockery of women, working mothers, and moms who are homemakers without additional careers, making this big fuss about Ivanka's tweet, which was completely ridiculous.
And it's just more evidence that feminists do not support women.
They have a cause, they have an agenda, they have a liberal agenda, they don't stand by women.
They should be admiring Ivanka Trump.
She's a great mother, a great businesswoman.
She is a faithful daughter.
She should be praised about that and not criticized for that.
And what is it that we were supposed to leave women out of the associations with their men?
Weren't we told that Hillary Clinton should not be judged in light of her husband, even though Hillary was complicit in actually against the women who were accusing him of sexual assault?
We don't have that kind of grace that we extend to Ivanka Trump because the feminist movement has become completely corrupted with this liberal agenda.
You know, you wrote this.
I want to read a little bit of what you wrote in your column.
You said, women can be vicious.
Just ask men.
Ouch.
Then you said, better yet, ask other women.
If they're honest, they'll tell you that women can be harsh to their own kind, especially liberal women.
That's what makes feminist campaigns like the Women's March a bit of a joke.
It's not about women sticking up for one another.
It's about liberal women advancing their own liberal agenda.
And if you're not on board, you're attacked viciously.
And they did prevent pro-life women from marching in that particular.
I've interviewed pro-life feminists in marketing.
I interviewed him on this program.
Right here on this show.
A woman who was told not to come.
Well, I've interviewed women who went and had a fantastic experience.
They were denied sponsorship, which I think is wrong.
But they went and they marched and they were speaking volumes.
That speaks volumes with the feminist movement today.
They stand for a liberal agenda.
They do not stand for women.
They don't.
And, you know, to say that we're misguided in not understanding the feminist movement, we do.
The feminist movement has been co-opted by statists.
It is not about feminism.
It's not about femininity.
It's not about women.
It's not about freedom.
It's about this faux idea of equality, this oppression of women, that women are somehow held down by men.
Really, what the feminist movement is wanting is bigger government to be invaded in our lives in order to get an agenda across.
And we see it repeatedly in these movements.
And if you aren't on board with that agenda, you're rejected.
That's why conservative women, conservative pundits, conservative politicians are just destroyed.
I thought that feminism applauded working women.
I thought feminism, and you know, I thought another good point that you made in your article is that Ivanka's tweet didn't mock other women.
In fact, many women would identify with her.
Yeah, identify with her, and stay-at-home moms would be like, great, yeah, she's a great mom.
Great.
Bring your kid to work.
I mean, they're pitting women against one another instead of standing for actually women's free choices and the variety of women.
You would actually say you're doing more to pit women against the women.
No, I'm not.
I'm calling them out for their hypocrisy.
I'm not pitting anyone against anyone.
I am calling out the feminist movement, not individual women, and I'm not pitting one woman against another.
I am calling out the hypocrisy of what the feminist movement has actually become.
What I would say to that is that many women, in fact, do admire Ivanka.
She is certainly an aspirational role model figure.
She did take an active role in her father's campaign, and people who disagree with her father's politics push back against her when she took on an active campaign.
But in fairness, but stop for a second.
In fairness, they're attacking her for the most trivial, insignificant things that they come up with.
That's number one.
Number two, all right, Ivanka's an adult, but I'll tell you this: if I attack Chelsea Clinton the way that Ivanka's being attacked, I would be called a misogynist and a sexist, and it would be disgraceful.
So there is a double standard, number one.
Number two, and Eric can defend himself, and Don Jr., but they're also attacking a 10-year-old kid and the grandson of the president.
One person at SNL who was fired pretty swiftly, attacked.
I do not see widespread.
No, actually, it was more than one.
No, no, wait a minute.
The attacks on Barron were numerous and vicious, including ridiculous diagnosis about his condition because at 4 in the morning, the kid was fidgeting and tired.
Good grief.
I'm 55 and I fidget.
I think all the attacks against Baron Trump are ridiculous, but if you're holding up one fired SNL writer and I should hold up Alex Joneson to represent conservative voice.
If Alex Jones is going after children, tell me about it and I'll call Alex Jones.
I think he actually has gone after what, when she got caught smoking pot?
No, I believe it was before that.
And by the way, Chelsea Clinton was made fun of tremendously for her looks as an adolescent.
Okay, not because of that.
It doesn't make it a lot after this.
But wait a minute.
I want to focus on the feminist movement and about what it's going on, what it's doing today to our society and what we're seeing and what we saw at the Women's March was just ridiculous.
And they're not standing for women.
And I want to make that clear.
They're not.
They're standing for a statist agenda.
They're clamoring about equality that is not a legitimate claim.
And they're talking about oppression that does not exist and it's causing great divisions.
And we're attacking people like Ivanka.
We're attacking conservative women.
We're attacking people because of their ideology.
They don't stand for freedom.
They stand for oppression themselves.
It's just not right, and we need to call it out.
And I think we need to hold the feminist movement to account for its hypocrisy, its double standards, and its not standing for women.
I think you're defining the feminist movement in a misguided way because feminism as its heart is about political, social, and economic opportunities for women.
And you see the feminist movement as an inherently pro-choice one.
No, I haven't even mentioned one choice.
I'm actually talking about the opposition.
I know many women who identify as feminists who don't identify those values.
And if you want to paint the feminist movement in a narrow, narrow way that makes it very partisan, you know, that's your prerogative.
That's fine.
But I don't think that's helpful and, in fact, accurate to paint feminism in such a regard.
No, you're the one who's being dishonest about what actually you think feminism stands for.
You think feminism has to do with oppression of women and that them fighting for equality in America, right?
Please tell me what I think.
Yeah, well, you do, because I've read your writings, and that's what you think.
You think that women are not equal to men before the law in this society, and that somehow women are oppressed.
That's why you're a feminist.
You want to see women, in your opinion, in America, and you think they're oppressed.
Women are not oppressed before the law in this country.
Women have equal rights before the law.
There is no equal pay gap.
There's only a wage gap.
You are pushing an agenda that's actually causing greater divisions in this country and is not really standing for women.
And you're not standing for women's freedom.
In your cry for equality, across the board in the relationships with men, you are actually undermining the freedom of women.
You're not standing for them.
Okay, so I am, yes, undermining the freedom of women in my writing.
I honestly do not know what you're pointing to.
To get to this, I am a feminist, and I do think there are nuanced battles for women in the United States to be tackling.
I also, by the way, completely agree with you that the wage gap, the 77 cents on a dollar, is not accurate.
Let me hold you both.
Emily, hold that thought.
D.C. McAllister, hold that thought.
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Uncovering evil and defending the truth.
As we continue with D.C. McAllister and Emily Shire, we're debating a lot of the attacks on the children and grandchildren now of Donald Trump.
And I would agree that Ivanka is tough and she can handle herself.
I still think attacking her the way she did for being a working mom is so hypocritical, though, of the left.
And that's what you've been saying for a long time, D.C. McAllister, about feminism in general.
There was one case where you had a congressman's aide that had to resign over.
He made comments.
Dear Sasha and Malia, I get you're both in those awful teen years, but you're part of the first family.
Try showing a little class.
Rise to the occasion.
Act like being in the White House matters to you.
And I thought that was insulting and rude and inappropriate.
Yeah, but the point is that there's a double standard.
And we've been saying this ever since the election as the left has continued to show its true colors.
And again, the women's movement today, the feminist movement today, is full of double standards and hypocrisy because it is not standing for women.
And I want to make that point really clear.
This cry for equality.
I want to ask, Emily, what laws, where in our society, do women not have equality before the law?
And if you're going to talk about equality, equal pay, that's a wage gap.
And that's built on women's choices, which I thought feminists were to respect, that women make separate and different choices from men.
And the result is a wage gap.
And they also, to bring solutions to these kinds of things, they want bigger government.
So they're always looking to government to fix things that are just social differences.
Instead of letting people be free to be different, they want a big government to impose its will on individuals and upon women in order to make things equal that can't be equalized.
And so they're actually taking away women's freedom.
And this is my major problem with the feminist movement today.
And if you do not agree with that, you are attacked by them viciously.
Well, what I would say is that I agree with you in that a lot of the wage gap is not purely men and women.
It's based on the industries that people go into, though it's also complicated because men and women often go into different industries based on parental responsibilities, child care responsibilities.
That's why we need to talk about issues like paid leave because it plays into the roles that people take and thus how much money they make.
Though I agree with you, I don't think it is a black and white sexist discrimination issue.
I would also say, and especially considering that 70% of all Americans support Roe v. Wade, forget about looking separately at how many women do, that when we have laws going on in Oklahoma and Arkansas that say men may be able to be legally required to sign on for approval if women want to have abortions, I would say that's a discriminatory law as well.
That is not a discriminatory law.
That baby is also half the father.
So that's a debate, but it may not be, you don't put it in the realm of discrimination.
You can have a discussion about that.
But to go to sexism, to go to discrimination immediately.
And also, I find it always interesting.
Whenever I start talking about discrimination and oppression of women in America and what the feminist movement is really about, they always go to abortion.
So really, the feminist movement is that abortion involves abortion.
And having control over that, many people think is a feminist concern.
I think you can be feminist and pro-life.
Other people don't.
I think if you say, and you're opinion on me, that all feminists think all women who want to be feminist or all people who want to be feminists need to be pro-choice is incorrect.
And I don't think that's how people take the movement.
But I completely understand why being the feminist movement just needs to die, honestly.
It is causing greater division in our country.
It's causing a lot of conflict.
And it doesn't stand for anything except for greater government.
I got to end it here.
Thank you both for being with us.
DC McAllister and Emily Schire.
Always appreciate you being with us.
Thank you.
You know, we are a generous and welcoming people here in the United States, but those who enter the country illegally and those who employ them disrespect the rule of law and they are showing disregard for those who are following the law.
We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked, and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently, and lawfully to become immigrants.
Please use your executive order to halt deportations for all 11.5 undocumented immigrants in this country right now.
What was that?
We agree that we need to pass copyright immigrant reform.
You have a power to deportation for all undocumented immigrants in this country.
Actually, I don't.
And that's why we're here.
Here's the problem that I have, Jose.
And I've said this consistently.
My job in the executive branch is supposed to be to carry out the laws that are passed.
Congress has said, here's the law when it comes to those who are undocumented, and they allocate a whole bunch of money for enforcement.
Something that I've struggled with throughout my presidency.
The problem is that I'm the president of the United States.
I'm not the emperor of the United States.
My job is to execute laws that are passed.
And Congress right now has not changed what I consider to be a broken immigration system.
And what that means is that we have certain obligations to enforce the laws that are in place, even if we think that in many cases the results may be tragic.
Now, what you need to know, when I'm speaking as President of the United States, and I come to this community, is that if, in fact, I could solve all these problems without passing laws in Congress, then I would do so.
But we're also a nation of laws.
That's part of our tradition.
And so the easy way out is to try to yell and pretend like I can do something by violating our laws.
And what I'm proposing is the harder path, which is to use our democratic processes to achieve the same goal that you want to achieve.
But it won't be as easy as just shouting.
It requires us lobbying and getting it done.
But if we start broadening that, then essentially I would be ignoring the law in a way that I think would be very difficult to defend legally.
So that's not an option.
And I do get a little worried that advocates of immigration reform start losing heart and immediately thinking, well, somehow there's an out here.
If Congress doesn't act, we'll just have the president sign something and that'll take care of it.
We won't have to worry about it.
What I've said is that there's a path to get this done, and that's through Congress.
And we've kind of stretched our administrative flexibility as much as we can.
And that's why making sure that we get comprehensive immigration reform done is so important.
It is going to require work.
It is not simply a matter of us just saying we're going to violate the law.
That's not our tradition.
All right.
News Roundup Information Overload Hour here on the Sean Hannity Show.
There's a lot to absorb here.
Now, remember, 2014 became a referendum.
Give us the Senate, Republicans said, and we will get rid of Obama's illegal, unconstitutional executive amnesty, which he ended up doing anyway, even though he said that he didn't have the authority like 25 times.
So we've got that in play.
If you look at the review, and this is new information out today, compiled by a Senate committee in 2016, well, what the judge in Seattle said was absolutely false.
Well, is there any evidence since 9-11 that any terrorism came from the seven countries in question?
Well, we now have a report that revealed that, in fact, 72 individuals from the seven countries covered in President Trump's vetting executive order have been convicted in terror cases since 9-11.
Now, that stands in stark contrast to the assertions of both the Seattle judge, Robart, and the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.
And, in fact, now I think they're going to move forward with a new executive order.
I'm not saying everything was perfect, but you get the point of why this is needed and why this is necessary.
Just like when I travel to other countries, they vet me before I get to go in and everybody else.
Anyway, joining us, Qasim Rashid is with us, who I know is a national spokesperson for the Ahmadiyya Muslim community.
And Ami Horowitz, satirist, documentarian, outright good guy, is here as well.
Qasim, how are you?
I'm good, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good.
Now, I know the Ahmadiyya Muslim community is a little bit different in as much as they've been one of the few areas within the Muslim community that has been more outspoken on terrorism, right?
Yeah, I mean, throughout our 120-year history, we've been adamant that terrorism has no place in Islam, and we've supplemented that with a proven model.
In each of the 200 nations that we exist, our tens of millions of members have never had a single act of terrorism because this is the Islam that Prophet Muhammad taught 1,400 years ago.
All right, but then there's the literal interpretation of like, take neither Christians nor Jews for your friends.
Well, you know, Sean, I mean, anyone can cherry pick, but what this verse is talking about is when you're being attacked by people, don't take them as your friends.
The Quran also goes on to say that make friends with Christians and Jews, and if somebody attacks a church or a synagogue, then you as a Muslim must defend the church and the synagogue.
I mean, these are the same.
But I'm saying that you can understand how radical Islamists interpret take neither Christians or Jews as your friends, and when you have the word infidel in there all the time, and you have apostates, and we know the penalty for apostasism in many Muslim countries is death.
I mean, the word infidel doesn't appear in the Quran anywhere contrary to that.
Jihad does.
Yeah, jihad means struggle, yeah.
But I mean, the word infidel.
Well, does jihad mean struggle, or does it mean holy war?
It means struggle.
Al-Harbin Mutaqaddas means holy war, but jihad just means struggle against evil.
I've always understood it to mean holy war.
No, no, no.
That's a common misunderstanding, Sean.
That actually means struggle.
The word literally means to struggle against evil.
And just as the KKK claims they're a Christian organization, nobody takes them seriously.
And we condemn their terrorism.
But then with these Taliban psychopaths.
You have to agree with me, though.
Most Muslims, I think for fear, out of fear, that maybe are moderate Muslims that don't want to strap bombs on their own children, promise them 72 virgins in heaven, most Muslims that think like you, or a lot of them, and I think this is a fair statement, tell me if you don't think so, that many are afraid to speak out because they will be viewed as traitors or apostates and that there's enormous pressure on them to be silent.
Otherwise, we'd have a lot of people.
Yeah, I mean, I think in certain regimes that might be true, but then you have a country like Indonesia, which is a beacon of peace for, you know, you have your issues there, but it's the largest Muslim-majority country in the world, and it's a relatively peaceful nation.
We're talking about like Saudi Arabia or Iran, and one being Sunni and the other beings.
Excuse me, you're not going to hear me defend Saudi over their human rights violations.
I mean, this is leadership matters.
I'm not going to hear you defend Iran either, right?
No, of course not.
Of course not.
And I mean, this is where leadership matters.
You know, the reason why the Ahmadiyya Muslim community has had a track record of peace is because of His Holiness, the true caliph of Islam.
He's a spiritual caliph.
He advocates for separation of mosque and state, gender equity.
He commands us to fight and defend.
Let me bring Ami in here.
And just like when General al-Sisi of Egypt spoke out against radical Islamists, it was a risky—he may ultimately one day even lose his life over it.
Ami.
Yeah, no, I agree.
I mean, I took a lot of courage from him to speak out and talk about what he saw as the internal problems of religion.
And I think there's no question there are internal problems, but there are people who are trying to fight against that, who are trying to push against this tidal wave of radicalization, which is kind of, which is beginning to really engulf a lot of Islam.
Not all of it, obviously.
I think that when it comes...
But it is the number one clear and present danger of the world because we see radical Islamic terrorism all around the world now.
It is...
And we see ISIS and we see Al-Qaeda and we see the Muslim Brotherhood and we see Hezbollah and we see Hamas and we see all of these different offshoots.
And they have declared war against us as evidenced in the United States and all throughout Europe, all the different attacks that have taken place.
Keep in mind that really the number one export of the Saudi country is not necessarily oil, but really radicalism.
If you look at around the world, the amount of money they're putting toward building out mosques that are preaching radicalism, it's very scary.
And I think, and by the way, you make that point about the terrorism and the fact that there have been no attacks, right, by anybody from these seven countries.
Do we not forget that just last year, late last year, there were two attacks from two Somali immigrants, one in Ohio State and one at Imminis?
Have we forgotten about that?
I'm not sure.
How does that fit on the calculations?
I've gone through all of these incidents.
You know, and there are 16 countries where if you're Jewish or have a Jewish passport, there are Muslim-majority countries that you can't get in.
Of course.
So, you know, you talk about extreme vetting or a religious litmus test or a Jewish ban.
That's real.
And I want to ask, Mr. Rashid, I want to ask you this.
Yeah.
I think this is important.
So Donald Trump wants to protect the country.
These seven countries, you know, we have all Indonesia, Egypt, Jordan, even Saudi Arabia, which I think should be included on the list.
You know, all these seven countries, we know, are hotbeds for terrorism and terrorism training.
So he wants to have extreme vetting to make sure and put the priority of the safety of the American people first.
Do you have a problem with that?
I don't think anyone is arguing with safety for the country.
I think the question is, do we do it in a way that our judiciary says is constitutional, or are we going to go rogue?
And I think we can agree that the judiciary decides what's constitutional or not.
I don't think you can consider the Ninth Circuit mainstream judiciary in America, especially when they have about an 80% overturn rate at the U.S. Supreme Court.
It's not overturned.
It's still what the judiciary has to do.
But in all honesty, I mean, they went judge shopping here.
And they went to this particular court in Seattle knowing that it would probably go to the Ninth Circuit, which probably would lean radically left, as they always do.
But the reality is, when did people that want to visit our country get constitutional rights?
When did they gather them?
I mean, there's an excellent Law Review article, the Georgetown Law, that cites the Supreme Court on numerous occasions that whether someone is a documented or undocumented immigrant, they have the privileges of a citizen by virtue of being on U.S. soil.
Well, when we come back, I'll read you the law because the president does have the authority, number one, as commander-in-chief, and number two, the statutory authority, which is U.S. Code, 1188, U.S. Code, 1182, paragraph F, if you're entitled to go look at it.
As we continue our discussion about, of course, the President and whether or not extreme vetting is necessary, let me read to both of you, Ami and Mr. Rashid, the law which says, this is 1182,
whenever the president finds that the entry of any aliens or any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation and for such period as he shall deem necessary suspend the entry of aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or non-immigrants or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem appropriate.
Ami, the law seems pretty clear to me.
Yeah, that is really a vague writing of a law.
I don't understand what that even means.
No, but like you said, it doesn't matter what the black and white is.
You have an activist court in the Ninth Circuit who was looking to over political move.
It doesn't matter what the law is.
They were looking to find a way to overturn it.
They found a way which clearly would be overturned if we had a Supreme Court which wasn't 4-4.
So it clearly split between partisan lines.
I think ultimately he's going to rewrite the law.
He's going to narrow it and it will essentially pass.
Well, doesn't the law seem clear to you?
And by the way, I think we should remind people, you actually work with refugees.
Yeah, I mean, I'm a civil rights attorney.
I work with Saudis and refugees constantly.
And no, that law, of course, has to be interpreted by the U.S. Supreme Court and the Supreme Court.
Okay, but there's no ambiguity when you heard what I read, right?
Well, but my point is that whatever the meaning of those words are still depends on what the Supreme Court says.
I think we can agree on that, right?
All right, but there's no ambiguity in the reading of that law.
You could be a ninth grader or an eighth grader and figure out what its meaning and intent are.
But hang on, hang on, hang on.
Amy, you had the experience.
You actually infiltrated, if you will, the refugee population.
Tell us about that.
Yeah, so when I was in Turkey, I spent time with the Syrian refugees there.
I actually saw, witnessed ISIS recruiting Syrian refugees in Izmir, Turkey.
And then ultimately, I went on that pleasure cruise on the RAF with them over to Germany and spent time with them in Germany.
And I want to spend a second really on the vetting process, the great vetting process that they've been talking about, how the extreme vetting of the Obama administration.
And, you know, most people, I haven't heard anybody talk about what this process actually is.
It is an absolute joke.
The process is it begins with the UN, which picking out who they want to come to the United States, which disqualifies it in my mind at the beginning.
Then they have a wellness check where they find out they have herpes or not.
And then they ask them a series of questions.
Are you a terrorist, for instance?
Do you want to blow up America?
And then comes the coup de grace of the vetting process.
They then ping their names off of five different databases to find that their names hit.
In other words, if we don't know who they were beforehand, that's the only way we find out they're terrorists.
If they're radicalized in Syria during the war, if they're radicalized in the refugee camps after the war, none of that is involved in this extreme vetting that the U.S. has.
And every single solitary national security top intelligence official in this country said, and as has now the President Assad of Syria himself, that the refugee population will be infiltrated by terrorism.
Well, Sean, let me respond to that as well.
You know, His Holiness Akhlif of Islam, Mirza Masur Ahmed, several years ago said absolutely ISIS is going to try to infiltrate these refugees and we need to have a thorough vetting process.
There's no doubt about that.
But I think what Ami is doing is slightly mischaracterizing.
And I've worked with these refugees.
I've gone through these interviews.
There's a reason why our intelligence agencies have protected us and not a single terrorist has gotten through in 40 years.
I think we should.
That's not true.
That's simply not true.
I just told you a review compiled by the U.S. Senate in 2016 revealed that 72 individuals from those seven countries covered by the president's vetting agency.
I want to send it to acknowledgement.
I mean, I read that report.
It's think tank.
With all due respect, it is not.
They're all convictions of real people.
I don't know what you're talking about, but I got to run.
I wish I had more time.
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We will be interviewing, well, I probably shouldn't give it away yet.
We're going to be back in Washington this week with a really big interview that we're really excited about, and it is as relevant as anything that we have ever done before.
All right, in the meantime, I promise we'll get to the phones.
We will do that and say hi to Mike.
He's somewhere in New York State, it says.
Where are you in New York State?
Hey, Sean, thanks for taking my call.
Yes, sir.
I'm a college student in upstate New York.
I go to a small private university, about 3,000 students.
Yeah?
My school is an engineering school for the most part.
We have a smaller business school, but usually it's not too political.
But I guess because of the election last summer, it's completely changed.
I'm a senior.
It's my fourth year here.
And all of a sudden, I've noticed these drastic changes around campus.
We have safe spaces on campus now.
All of a sudden, we have bathrooms for everyone.
That used to be men's bathrooms and women's bathrooms in certain buildings.
The bathrooms have become for everybody.
So anybody could use the bathrooms.
But I guess the thing that bothered me the most is right after the election, I'm a part of the club on campus.
It's called the College Republican Club.
We have well over 80 members.
And right after the election, it was either one of the high-ranking faculty on campus or the president of the university sent our advisor to us at our meeting to tell us that just because our guy won, meeting President Trump, that we weren't allowed to be hateful or bigoted, he was assuming that that's the kind of people that we are because we are conservative, which really irked us.
And I guess he also, the president of our university has also gone so far as to when President Trump put out his executive order two weeks ago.
Let me guess.
They called it a Muslim ban and a religious litmus test, and they lied to the students.
I'm just guessing.
Yeah, pretty much.
He said in his email, I have it written down a quote from it.
Yeah, what did he say?
He said, President Trump's executive order banning entry of citizens from various countries is in direct opposition to our history, our principles, and even our ability to continue to drive the national economy.
Number one, they're not citizens.
They're guests in our country.
Number two, when I go abroad, I get vetted.
Number three, you know, I mean, it's, we don't mind people visiting.
But if you're coming from a country that is known to be a safe harbor for terrorists and a known terrorist training facility, or there's a lot of terrorist training going on in the country, then we have every right to put the safety and security above the visitors' inconvenience.
And that's all this comes down to, inconvenience.
And if you're a terrorist, the inconvenience is you're not getting in.
If you're a person that comes with good intentions and we can ascertain that, then America is opening its doors to you.
So it's been blown.
Here's what I advise you to do.
Because you're describing my entire life where I have been despised, hated, mischaracterized.
Every single possible evil thing that could ever be written about a person, I think, has been written about me at some point or another.
And you know what?
I'm just very relaxed and comfortable in my own skin, and I don't care about criticism.
I'm not going to live my life caring what people think about me.
You know, there are certain people in my life whose opinions of me matter a lot more than others.
And short of that, I don't care that a bunch of liberals hate my guts.
I really don't.
I'm not going to spend my life agonizing over it.
Life, A, is too short, and B, I'm confident in my studied positions about how conservatism works and how vetting is just simple, basic, fundamental common sense.
And if, you know, if I'm bored, I might take to Twitter and have some fun and spank them around a little bit if they need it.
All right.
Best of luck, Mike.
Stand on your principles.
You'll never regret it.
Chris is in Utah, Rod or Ketland, K-N-R-S.
What's going on, Chris?
How are you?
How's things in Utah?
Mr. Hannity, thank you for your time, sir.
Thanks for letting me call in.
Yes, sir.
I was at the Jason Schaffett's Town Hall meeting last Thursday.
I was on the second row.
I'm an Obama voter in 2008, and I voted for Trump in 2016.
I went there to kind of learn, but what I learned was while I was in line, they were bringing in all these Democratic voters and activists, and they were handing out signs and agree and disagree, and they were handing them out the questions.
And as I went in and sat down and I got on the second row, I interacted with everybody and was very benign and they didn't know who I was.
And I saw them actually standing in front and moving us all together, getting more people in there.
And then when Mr. Chaffetz came out, Congressman Chaffetz, I won't get into it.
I posted her on Facebook.
I'm not a very political person, but it changed my life.
If you look at the 59-minute mark on the YouTube on the video of the Chaffetz Town Hall, I got a chance to ask my question.
The only reason I did was because I was aggressive and they were trying to stop me from asking.
And I told the crowd and God and everyone that I'm a Trump voter, a Chapitz supporter, and an Obama supporter.
And I looked at the crowd and said, your anger is what probably everyone felt in 2012.
And I asked, what can we come to do to come together?
I was yelled at, shouted down.
As I sit down, I was cursed at.
I was told I should probably leave because someone might come after me.
The Brighton School student body council was on the front row, and no one's talking about this.
These kids heard the most vulgar, nasty things that they probably ever heard in their lives.
I left and went outside because I was actually scared, and I walked out to the group of protesters who were screaming, bring him out, bring him out, as if he was some criminal.
What'd they want to do?
Beat him up?
That's what I didn't know, Mr. Hannity, is that I'm just a regular person, I thought.
And I just went there, and I'll be honest with you, I was always independent.
I switched my party affiliation to Republican to vote for Ted Cruz during the primary.
I struggled with voting for Mr. Trump.
But the Washington Post reporter asked me a very great question.
He said afterwards, because he's like, I can't believe you did that in front of everybody.
And I said, I wanted to show the difference between us and them.
I asked a very loving, kind question and was rejected and cursed at.
And he said, well, what do you think of the job Mr. Trump's doing?
And I said, it's been two or three weeks.
How can we judge him?
I actually think it's been a pretty phenomenal period of time.
I won't go through the list of accomplishments again because I don't want to repeat myself, but I think it's been great.
Listen, I'm just going to tell you this.
A lot of this is what we call astroturf.
And these organizers, some of them are paid to be there.
This is now what you're going to see the entire four to eight years of a Trump presidency.
It's not going to go away.
I talked to friends of mine that do work in the White House.
I said, it's not going away.
You just accept it for what it is and do the job you were hired to do and forget the noise because this is all noise.
And if people want to disrupt a town hall with a congressman or a senator that is graciously trying to reach out and serve his constituents, well, that means the people that really deserve the service don't get what we hired these people for.
And it's selfish, self-centered.
You're right.
They don't care about their language.
They don't care.
The kids are there.
You know, it's just typical.
I've seen this my entire life, especially the left is not the most tolerant.
The left does not really believe in diversity because they don't like or can't stand a conservative.
And God forbid if you're a woman and a conservative and pro-life, and God forbid if you're a black American and you're conservative, oh my God, that's like, you know, look at all the names that Tim Scott was called and he read on the Senate floor last week.
It's pretty brutal.
They're vicious.
They're mean.
They're cruel.
And we have to just move.
We have a job to do, and that's save the country.
And in the meantime, stop its precipitous decline.
Get America on the right track.
Get our economy on the right track.
Get our security on the right track.
Get health care on the right track.
Get the Supreme Court back on track.
Get to energy independence.
These are the big problems we've got to focus on.
Anyway, I appreciate, Chris, let not your heart be troubled.
I know it's frustrating.
The best thing you can probably do is call his office and see if you can't get a question answered the way you want.
I would assume Jason Chaffetz would be glad to respond.
All right, let's get to our phones.
Let us say hi to Jonathan in Henderson, Texas.
Jonathan, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate you taking me call.
I would just like to say, well, first off, I'm a 37-year-old roofing contractor in Texas, and I'm very glad that we finally have a president that works as hard as the people do.
But what I was wanting to comment on was last week whenever Gorsuch made that comment about basically criticizing Trump for giving his opinion on something.
It was disconcerting if it's true.
Now, he denies it was said.
He denies that it was reported accurately.
But, I mean, look, we have a right to free speech.
We can criticize the judiciary.
They're not above criticism.
As a matter of fact, the Ninth Circuit deserves it.
Right, exactly.
That's what I was wanting to say.
You know, since when is a judge thought of to be thought of as beyond reproach or, you know, somebody that cannot make a mistake?
You know, if somebody like Ashley Judd can stand up there and say the filthiness that she said the other day, I mean, she embarrassed the whole country with what she said.
No, you know what she did?
She hurt her own cause because the American people are strong.
I am a nasty woman.
It's just, it's an embarrassment, or Madonna, an embarrassment, or Meryl Streep, an embarrassment, or Ashton Kutcher, an embarrassment.
It's just these people are ignorant.
They don't know much.
And they're all a bunch of phony hypocrites.
Yeah, and she, you know, talking like that on there, you know, the left will always claim free speech, which they should.
I mean, we do have free speech as Americans.
And that applies also to the president of all people.
He has a right to free speech also.
100%.
And you know what?
They want to shut down his Twitter.
And maybe it would be in his best interest to do so.
I actually have come around on it.
I actually think the fact that he ⁇ I like people that are courageous and fight and speak their mind.
And the president is going right to the American people.
And I kind of like it.
I think it's a good thing that he goes directly to us, and the media is in a total meltdown, freak-out mode.
I mean, I was watching CNN briefly this weekend, and I just, I watched for five minutes, and they were questioning the president's mental health.
You know, and I'm like, this is beyond silly.
And then Chris Ruddy was on, and he goes, yeah, if he's crazy, he's crazy like a fox.
He won the presidency.
I'm like, yeah, good point.
Look, I know Donald Trump.
Donald Trump is a guy that rolls his sleeves up, and he said to me privately and on the air, I got to do a good job for the American people.
And I think that's why he's moving as expeditiously as possible.
I call it the speed of Trump.
I'm telling Republicans in Washington to get their ass in gear and start working like everyone else in this country works and roll up their sleeves and stop with the lunches and the workouts and the cafeterior dining that we pay for and start writing the bills on the promises that you made to the American people.
And I'm frankly a little disgusted that you guys don't have a replacement bill ready to go after eight years, a consensus replacement bill.
And that so much work has to be done on it.
It makes me think, what have you been doing?
You voted all these times to repeal and replace.
Well, what were you going to replace it with?
It's beyond frustrating.
Anyway, I appreciate it, Jonathan.
Totally get it, understand.
And you can go back to Thomas Jefferson for crying out loud.
Marbury Madison, critical of judges.
Thomas Jefferson himself, the author of our Declaration, critical of judges, as were many other presidents before.
Barack Obama was so insulting to the Supreme Court that he insulted them right in front of them.
Remember, you were reading the lips of Sam Alito?
Not true.
Not true.
And didn't stop the president.
And then Justice Galia and Justice Thomas said, that's the last state of the union we're going to.
I would assume when the president speaks, I think it's on the 28th, it's not officially a State of the Union, a joint session of Congress.
I would assume that Clarence Thomas is going to be there and that all the justices will be there.
We have a lot of work to do in this country.
Look, this is not easy to fix the problems that we have inherited here.
And I'm not spending a lot of time.
I've given that to you all last year, how bad it is.
Now I'm very solutions-oriented because I want the country to get fixed.
I want to make sure that the country, I want to, this is what I want for my country right now.
I want the country safe and secure from radical Islamists.
I want our borders secured.
I want vetting in place.
I want a president that understands that we have a group of people that are at war with us.
Then, simultaneously, then all these millions and millions of Americans in poverty on food stamps out of the labor force that can't buy a home and have the American dream.
I want to fix the economy so everyone not only gets a good job, but a career job that will make their lives better and more prosperous.
And I want them to live in safe neighborhoods where their kids can play out, but they can go out in the backyards, they can play football in the street, you know, move aside when the cars come by, and not have the fear that so many people in so many cities and communities have right now.
And that's my goal.
It's not personality-driven as much as it's driven by my knowledge that conservatism works.
Eight years of radical, Alinskyite, you know, leftism of Obama and Hillary didn't work.
It hurt us on the national security front and it hurt us on the economic front.
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