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Dec. 15, 2016 - Sean Hannity Show
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More hot cocoa, more aromatherapy, pet therapy, crayons, and play-doh and coloring book news that we'll get to at the start of the program today.
And Coulter is back with us.
Newt Gingrich and an announcement coming up later in the program today that a project that I've been involved in now for a long time.
It is coming to fruition.
It won't be available till November.
No, it's not a book.
I'm not writing any more books.
I'm done.
But something that I'm really proud of.
And well, I'll tell you what it is.
It's a movie that I have am the executive producer of.
And it is a movie that will take you on an emotional roller coaster ride.
And you'll laugh and you'll cry, and it has meaning and it has substance.
You know, all these years doing radio and TV, I have always noticed something.
I go to Kenny Chesney's concert, and he sings a song about a kid that ends up getting his girlfriend pregnant, and it's called There Goes My Life, and you look out in the audience and that song touches people so deeply they cry.
I've been to Garth Brooks concert, you know, friends in low places, and everyone's like in a drunken brawl and having fun, and then the next thing he does is he sings the dance, or if tomorrow never comes, then you see people tearing up.
It's the same with movies.
Good movies.
I I think we have enough cartoon movies out there to last 4,000 lifetimes.
I'm sick of them.
And monster movies and you know, whatever other stuff they do.
I'm just I'm not impressed with what Hollywood does.
So I've been looking for the right project, the right script.
It's a faith-based movie, and I think I found it, and I actually have the first cut of it.
We've been filming it.
I just haven't been talking about it.
And I partnered with Kevin and Sam Sorbo on this movie.
Kevin Sorbo, of course, of Hercules fame and does the move music for the movie.
She's amazing in this movie.
And uh I have a part, yes, I didn't totally destroy it, at least not in the first cut.
Um, but that's not why I did it, and I'm just playing myself, so it's not like it's hard to do, but I'm a very small part of it, and I was not the reason that I did the project, but it's because I see that you know, I want to leave a movie theater thinking.
I want to leave a movie theater having you know gone through an experience, and this movie takes you on that experience.
I've been able to take the first rough cut, and I've been able to show it to just a few select friends, and in every case, they laughed and cried in the same movie.
And so I'm very, very proud of it.
I think the message of the movie, look, I'm I don't claim to be the greatest example of Christianity.
I'm not this is not I don't go to church regularly, I don't do a lot of things that I should do.
But it's but I believe all of that with all my heart, mind, and soul, and know that for me it's a truth that I rely on and feel that my life in so many ways has been a blessing.
And you know, I'm the guy if you want to know how I view my life, I'm the guy on the cross next to Jesus that says, uh I'm the one that belongs here.
You don't belong here.
Well, no, I'm not com no, I'm not saying I bel I'm not Comparing myself to Jesus.
I'm saying, no, I would I'm the guy that would deserve to be on a cross, not him.
Is that a bad example?
Bad example.
Okay.
I'm the one that says I deserve whatever hell I would get.
That's it.
I mean, and you know, what is the message of Christianity all about?
It's about God sent his only begotten son, and if you believe him, and he'll forgive your sins and reconcile you to God.
Well, I'm the one that needs the reconciling and then forgiveness.
That's what I mean.
Is that better?
Better way to say it?
Well, I'm saying I would know that I'm the one that deserves to be there.
He's the one that doesn't deserve to be there.
I was very clear in that point.
Good grief.
And then there was a guy on the other side of them that said, Oh, if you're God, get us the hell down from here.
You know.
And anyway, I'm the one that would need the forgiveness part.
That's all I meant by that.
But I'm sick of movies that don't have I I'm sick and tired of it.
I go to movies, like I'm going to be off on my Christmas vacation.
I'm going to go to movies, probably see every new movie out.
I go to movies almost every night.
I do.
They have this great movie theater near where I'm vacationing, and I go sit there and I watch, and I either fall asleep, bored out of my mind, or I just I just walk out of there just like this was a waste of money in two hours.
And so I just wanted to get in.
So I put a lot of money into the project, and I'm very proud of what it's turning into, and we'll uh announce more about it later in the program today.
You know, our friends over at Newsbusters, they did something pretty amazing.
They went back to 2008, and they looked at the media coverage.
Remember the likes of Chris Matthews getting tingles up his leg and uh, you know, all the craziness.
We have that love theme of Chris Matthews.
I'll get to it in a second.
You know, it's an outstanding gesture of magnanimity if to take on Hillary Clinton, he said.
You know, you beat in a very tough, really eight-year fight.
What a magnanimous gesture he said.
It's astounding to everyone.
Robin Roberts at ABC wondering if Obama's selections were a team of rivals as Lincoln did.
Remember we were talking about the columns, the Greek columns, and maybe he'd end up on Mount Rushmore.
Then he got the Nobel Peace Prize.
And then you had people say, what a genius he was.
You know, he's created a mosaic, an all-star team, a team of superstar geniuses full of brain power.
You know, we've never had such a collection of superstars with this brain power.
All of these things were said.
Now go to Donald Trump and his selections.
Well, you got a bunch of racially incentive uh insensitive, hardline radicals, ignoramuses who will bring about environmental disaster and a calamity to the poor.
That's the difference.
The media hasn't learned a darn thing.
What a difference eight years makes.
You know, you've got John Heileman talking about some appointments, a history of racially insensitive endeavors.
None of which is true.
They even said about Dr. Ben Carson.
They did a movie about this man's life.
A renowned, world-renowned surgeon.
How Ben Carson can undo a desegregation effort.
What are they talking about?
Carson will spell calamity for the poor.
And it doesn't end there.
Jennifer Rubin, hardline team of radicals, billionaires, and ignoramuses and a few generals.
Like, wow.
I wish I could say Ben Carson was the only person who didn't have experience in his area.
What we have are ignoramuses, billionaires, and a few generals.
Pretty frightful stuff.
You know, you got Juan Williams.
You have people who I would say don't fit exactly into a team of rivals, but to many a team of radicals.
And you got the New York Times.
Trump quickly on Friday moved to begin filling national security posts at the top echelons of his administration, selecting a group of hawks and campaign loyalists who reflect the hard line views that defined his run for the presidency.
Now, if you go to what they did in 2008, Obama appointed a hard-headed realist team of moderates and geniuses.
You know, George Stephanopoulos would say, well, one Obama advisor told me what they like as a combination of a team of rivals, the best and the brightest.
And it goes on from there.
They're Such phonies.
You know, just a bunch of liars.
And look at what the ditch that they dug for the entire country.
But if you listen to David Brock over at Media Manners, he says the press are animals.
They need to be treated that way.
They're on your team, David.
They basically, you know, remember back when you were mocking the fact you got, oh, you got all these young kids, average age 27, you can feed them anything you want, they'll regurgitate it perfectly.
You guys mocked it by lying to the media and selling that Obamacare.
It's so bad.
Washington Free Beacon is a story today.
I remember, and think about this.
Remember when Obama was elected.
Remember Allie Wentworth, aka Mrs. George Stephanopoulos told some interviewer she was so ecstatic, she called her husband, they both cried tears of joy.
Remember that?
No tears of joy in in the Stephanopoulos household uh after Donald Trump won.
How he got to cover the Clintons at all in this race is a miracle to me by ABC, except the fact that they're in the can and like every other network for Democrats.
Anyway, she was on the View the other day, George Stephanopoulos' wife, and while discussing the election with the ladies of the view, she described her daughters and how they were handling this.
I have an 11-year-old daughter who doesn't really understand what ISIS is, but she knows that she's scared.
And she's now sleeping in bed with us every night.
What is she talking about?
They can't sleep.
It just involves my 14-year-old getting upset about the election and screaming no abortions really loudly.
What is going on in these households?
You got a Harvard professor.
Now, first they tried the recount, that failed.
The Putin argument failed.
Now they're we have a Harvard professor in the hill today suggesting that GOP electors are close to blocking a Trump win.
They're such bitter angry people.
Remember Barack Obama.
He was saying just before the election, stop whining, Donald Trump.
Like it's even possible that the election could be influenced by others.
But but the larger point that I want to emphasize here is that there is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even you could even rig America's elections.
In part because they're so decentralized.
And the numbers of votes involved.
There's no evidence that that has happened in the past, or that there are instances in which that will happen this time.
And so uh I'd invite Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes.
And if he got the most votes, then it would be my expectation of Hillary Clinton to offer a gracious concession speech and pledge to work with him in order to make sure that the American people benefit from an effective government.
And it would be my job to welcome Mr. Trump, regardless of what he said about me or my differences with him on my opinions, and escort him over to the Capitol, in which there would be a peaceful transfer of power.
That's what Americans do.
That's why America's already great.
One way of weakening America and making it less great is if you start betraying those basic American traditions that have been bipartisan and have helped to hold together this democracy now for well over two centuries.
Oh, okay.
And then Hillary, of course, said the following.
That is not the way our democracy works.
We've been around for 240 years.
We've had free and fair elections.
We've accepted the outcomes when we may not have liked them.
And that is what must be expected of anyone standing on a debate stage during a general election.
And then he's gone out and talked about rigged elections, and he's tried to rile up all of his supporters and his rallies and it's really painful to see this.
But in that last debate, he said something truly horrifying.
And that was that he wouldn't say he would accept the results of the election.
This is his final target.
Our democracy itself.
Unbelievable.
So now the now they the recount didn't work.
The Russia story didn't work.
Now they'll try to influence the electors.
You know, Chris Matthews not happy that Trump may finally move the U.S. Embassy from Israel to Jerusalem.
Well, that's the capital.
I don't even know.
Anyway, back to this Harvard professor guy for just a second here.
He's claiming the electoral college is close to dumping Trump.
I don't, this is not gonna happen.
If it does, it's not gonna work.
But that's not stopping them because the whole effort is about delegitimizing Trump.
The guy's name is Larry Lessing Lessig, he's from Harvard University.
And he said that 20 Republican electoral college voters are considering flipping to vote against Trump, more than half the number of anti-Trump votes needed to stall the president-elect from being sworn into office.
That's not gonna happen.
And if it does, you are gonna see a backlash in this country, the likes of which we've never seen.
And by the way, what other bit of news today?
The New York Times and the Weekly Standard, both reporting that Obama sounds like, you know, he wants to start World War III over what is now months old news that Russian hackers were suspected of breaking into the DNC email system because what you've been hearing all week was not new.
There's no new information about hacking.
There's no conclusion.
The director of national intelligence and the FBI, they don't reach the same conclusion as the same CIA that said that that politicized the Benghazi story and the false narrative that this was a spontaneous attack based on a YouTube video, and that spontaneous demonstrators had RPGs and mortars in their back pocket.
That's the same CIA.
And I'm not dissing on the CIA rank and file, but the CIA has been weakened repeatedly over the years by Congress.
It's just a fact.
It's not something in dispute.
Anyway, the New York Times reveals that President Obama had been briefed regularly on Russia's efforts to target servers at the State Department, the White House, and the Joints Chiefs of Staff.
Last night I went through the whole list of departments that have been that had been hacked over the years.
We also know the identity of the culprit who masterminded the successful hacking into Hillary's campaign, which according to Democrats made Trump president, and it turns out the mastermind was not Vladimir Putin.
It appears to be Hillary Clinton.
The person responsible for this, you know, John Podestin.
Podesta himself.
Now, if it were not her very own right-hand man, I assume Hillary would be taking the oath of office next month instead of Donald Trump, according to them, because WikiLeaks had released what may be the key email that led to one of the biggest cybersecurity breaches in presidential campaign history, allowing hackers to gain access to the Clinton campaign chairman Podesta's Gmail account.
A new email thread released just last week suggested Podesta got a March 19th email from Google notifying him that someone had his password, and he tried to sign and tried to sign in from Ukraine.
The IT team told Podesta the message was legit and he should change his password.
But it appears the email actually was a phishing ploy and likely gave the world access to the contents of the account.
It was them.
They blew it.
They opened it up.
Wasn't that Vladimir Putin?
And Julian Assange said to us it's not Vladimir Putin.
One week.
One week from today, you get to choose a new government.
And because early voting runs through this Friday.
You don't have to wait till election day.
You can vote all week.
I mean, you can only vote once.
It's in Chicago now.
You're gonna.
I'm teasing Chicago, I'm messing with you.
That was a long time ago.
You you can only vote once, but you can vote any time this week.
Anytime this week, anytime you want.
You know, there's such hypocrites aloft.
Why did the media, you know, Gingrich, who's gonna join us later says, you know, bashing these idiots in the propaganda media.
Journalism's dead.
I honestly could see Trump saying, we don't need a White House press office anymore.
We don't need he hasn't named the press secretary.
Why why go out there the dog and phony pony show?
Where you have a bunch of Hillary Clinton supporters in the media, a bunch of propagandists, a bunch of people that colluded with the Clinton campaign.
Why sit there every day and take their inane, idiotic combative questions every day?
What?
And then run it on MSNBC?
What?
Because they can't get any better programming than that.
I think you just say forget it.
I'll do a fireside chat with him.
Well, we'll do it by a fireside.
Make it fun.
Uh let's go back.
Remember when Obama won in 08?
I just read to you the newsbuster's article that pointed out, oh, they were so happy, giddy.
Everything he did was brilliant.
He was so smart.
He's a smart, probably the smartest guy I've ever heard.
Now, Chris Matthews is only one of many.
I don't remember why we singled him out.
I guess because he was so over the top, but it's like a love story.
And the love story is between the the mainstream media and liberal democrats.
It's a sweet love story.
The feeling most people get when they hear Barack Obama's speech.
I felt this thrill going up my leg.
I mean, I don't have that too often.
And that is an objective assessment.
I thought it was Hollywood.
It was romance.
There's only you in my life.
The only thing that's bright.
And we should be comfortable and we'll be with him in such a setting.
It was realism.
You're every breath that I take.
You're ever step a man.
I felt this thrill going up my leg.
I don't have that too often.
And love an oval office setting showing that he's comfortable.
No one else.
This is valuable material.
This is real estate of the highest order.
I thought there's a thrill going up my leg.
He tell me how you can.
The guy's done everything.
He's worked his butt off.
He's been a good citizen.
He's done everything right.
I felt this thrill going up my leg.
My endless.
And the love story.
Is that all we have?
I thought it was longer than that.
All right, let's hit our.
Well, you wanted me to talk about something.
What did you want to talk about?
Santa Claus?
Oh, this guy didn't want you to talk about it.
Before we talk about that, did you see the video of that sick child that died in Santa's arms?
Oh.
Oh.
I just I don't you know me.
I I don't cry.
I w I was I was like, oh that killed me.
I was so sad.
And the guy said, You tell you when you get to where you go and you tell him I'm the first elf.
You you're the first elf.
It was so sad.
What what's the other story you want to talk about?
I can't talk about that story.
You know that.
Um there's two other stories that are happening.
Stoys, okay.
They're a little bit lighter than the heavy stuff we're heading to.
Oh, do you mean the guy that looked like Santa was asked to leave Six Flags?
He goes to Six Flags every weekend.
He happens to look like Santa.
Why does he go to Six Flags every weekend?
They're exercise.
Him and his wife, they're in their their golden years, and they they get a little walk-on in Texas, and six flags is humongous.
And they walk the park for exercise.
Nothing wrong with that.
No, no, no.
Do they have to pay to be to get in there?
They have a membership.
So they get to go as often as they want.
They don't even go on the rides.
They just walk.
They just go, and because he looks like Santa, small children that celebrate Christmas with their families approach him and they're like, oh hi, and he carries around candy, and the parents come up and they and he gets the parents' approval and he gives them candy, and some grinch at the park decided that he didn't like it and had him thrown out.
And you know what the park said to him?
Well, you can come back if you shave your beard.
Henderson got in trouble after he says a woman asked him to pose for a picture with her kids.
Well, what is wrong with people?
Now I like Six Flags.
We partnered with them.
We did a number of concerts with them over the years when we were doing our freedom concerts, and we apologize that Mr. Henderson was inconvenienced, but the safety of our guests is always our highest priority.
We cannot knowingly allow individuals who are not approached by the park to interact with small children in this capacity.
Small children that were brought over to him, and he was handing out candy to younger guests.
The parents brought their children to him.
He didn't go up to the kids like hey, well, he was dressed as Santa.
I mean, but you was not dressed as Santa.
Well, actually, it says he was dressed as no, he has a beard that resembles Santa, and in the Christmas spirit, he has spenders and a hat that he wears.
But that's it.
It's not like he's in a full regalion with like, you know, a big bag of toys over his shoulder.
Give me a break.
Well, you know, there's a better answer to this.
Let's go like the Trump way.
What would Donald Trump do if this was his park?
I'll tell you what he'd do.
You do a background check on the guy.
He would hire the guy and let him go around and let the park provide the candy and let him give candy to the kids.
It's a brilliant idea.
That's like saying uh this guy's walking through the park.
Uh it happens to be Sean Hannity.
He's there with his kids.
And people come up to you, oh Sean, Sean, I'm a big fan.
Can I take a picture?
Can my son take a picture with you?
Of course.
And then you do that, and they're like, uh, I'm sorry, Mr. Hannity.
We cannot have you approaching small children.
Meanwhile, you weren't approaching small children.
They were approaching you.
Well, I think there's an answer.
The look, it's sort of like when you're dealing with a company and you're dealing with the the lowest person on the totem pole.
And I'm like, Well, can I can you just can you just type in this?
Can you just do No, it's against company policy.
And it's so stupid, and you're like, oh, just do it.
You know, get it done, and they don't do it.
Speaking of stupid.
What's stupid?
This woman, this is on uh Handy Day.com today.
It's a story that uh public school one.
Yeah, the DC public school spokeswoman.
Do you like this?
Yeah, get rid of white men.
It's lovely.
I know.
Now she's still gonna be the spokeswoman for the public school system because that's where your kids are being taught, ladies and gentlemen.
Get rid of white men after Trump nominated Rick Perry to lead the energy department.
By the way, I'm so happy about Rick Perry.
Rick Perry created more jobs, longest running governor, and did so much good for Texas.
Um he's gonna be great at energy.
And you know what he's gonna do?
He's gonna cut it to the bone.
And he's gonna make us energy independent.
That's one of the I'm happy with that pick in a major way.
All right, let's get to our uh phones.
Alyssa is in Ashland in Missouri, the show me state.
Alyssa, how are you?
I'm good.
How are you?
I'm good.
What's happening?
Well, I'm just a little worried.
I've been reading the stories about the possible faceless delegates we have going on, and I'm just wondering if you think this might be a real threat to Trump taking office or what you think's gonna happen with that.
Look, I think they're gonna try, but I think it's a they're going to try.
Let me make my prediction clear.
And I want everybody in the liberal media that has nothing better to do but get paid to listen to this program in their underwear every day and then write about what a horrible evil human being I am and lie about me and say I'm racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic.
I'm so sick of these lies.
But anyway, you know, my my answer is they're going to try and destroy Donald Trump.
And listen to me clearly.
They are going to try to destroy Donald Trump.
Delegitimize him to begin with, and then from there, they're gonna look for any little thing to take him down.
That's what I think is gonna happen.
Yeah.
Well, I just were I just, you know, I'm curious whether or not they, you know, when you say if it's a real threat to a to Donald Trump and making him illegitimate, like, do you still you still think he's gonna go through and it's it's all gonna go as planned.
It's not gonna end up being a big coup.
Listen, I'm just I no, I don't think they're gonna win with the electors, and if they do, it'll go to the House of Representatives, and he will be the president.
But the fact that they're willing to put the country through all of this, and you have the fingerprints of Hillary and Obama all over these things, tells you everything you need to know about how bitter and angry they are.
It's horrible.
Anyway, I'm reading an article here.
If I can just uh control alt delete.
Let's see if that works.
All right.
All right.
No, still didn't work.
Uh apparently Roger Clinton was d jailed after a DUI arrest.
Did you see that?
I'll get those details in a minute.
IBM, By the way, is going to put 25,000 new jobs.
Uh, they're gonna add.
I guess everybody's feeling confident about the future of the economy.
Felix is in Pennsylvania.
Felix, how are you?
Sean, I am good.
It's a pleasure to talk to you.
I love you, man.
Hey, I got a real problem.
I've been a 110% Donald Trump guy from the very beginning, even through the primary.
I looked into what, you know, his points of view, and I thought he was the man for the job.
But now I'm having my oh snap what the fudge moment with Hillerson.
He's a carbon credits guy.
Yeah.
Well that that worries me, and he's going to be Secretary of State.
Listen, there are definitely positions I don't agree with.
I don't agree with his position about the Boy Scouts.
I don't agree with some of his social issue positions.
Um, but the carbon footprint, that's not going to have anything to do with his position at state, is my guess, because I don't think Donald Trump is signing on to this climate change, global warming, global cooling nonsense.
And Donald Trump believes in energy independence.
And listen, remember it's the president that sets policy, not the Secretary of State.
Yeah, I I do understand that, but you know, when I heard on Russia said that he's going to be dealing, you know, with these people at the UN and the, you know, these are the people.
Yeah, no, they'll probably if he agrees with that crap.
And you know, I gotta tell you another thing I've learned he's a businessman.
He might have just taken that position just for the benefit of his company.
Now understand what I'm saying.
If he understands the reality, is he's dealing with these countries that believe this nonsense.
Sometimes they kind of will say those things just to get their businesses up and running and and fully operational, and really has nothing to do with his real views.
But again, if anything like that happens, I'm gonna be the loudest critic.
You know, if if look, if Trump doesn't keep his promises, if they're making mistakes, I'll be the first to tell them.
Anyway, it turns out that Roger Clinton, this is pretty interesting, uh, was jailed after a DUI arrest.
I guess Hillary's not gonna have to deal with this, but anyway, he got a two-day jail sentence, three years probation for Rodondo Beach uh uh DUI's half brother of President Bill Clinton, a charge stemming from an arrest.
And uh, I guess maybe there's an upside for Hillary, and she doesn't have to start answering questions about why is her brother-in-law in jail.
He had three times the legal limit.
Zero two, three, zero.
That's pretty high number, released on fifteen thousand dollar bond.
Sure Bill's yelling at him about now.
Uh there was a story on CNN that I know isn't true.
And I don't know who leaked us.
Anyway, this president elect Donald Trump considered Romney for Secretary of State.
Trump Trump wanted one thing Romney wouldn't give, an apology.
That is absolute I know people that were there that I talked to when they met, they met two times.
And I'm told they got along famously, and that it wasn't an issue.
Trump was willing to move past Romney's bitter campaign trail criticisms of him and incoming chief of staff, Rhines Previs, who chaired the RNC during both men's presidential campaigns, convinced Trump there was value in showing he was big enough to bring Romney into the fold.
But top aides, including Kellyanne, Steve Bannon, and I thought it was a bad idea personally, you know, two of whom were familiar, but anyway, uh with this, they saw Romney's attacks as unforgivable.
I just don't think it would have worked.
Anyway, CNN has learned the vice president-elect Mike Pence and Previs also wanted Romney to apologize as a way to smooth things over.
After Conway and others attacked Romney publicly, lobbying against this election in television interviews, and more than a week after the two had begun talking, Trump raised the possibility of a public apology with Romney as a way of mollifying the critics.
The source said he asked Romney to say publicly he was wrong about Trump.
Well, he already did say he was wrong about Trump, and he was happy with the way things were going.
So I don't think that was an issue at all.
Anyway, back to our phones.
As we say hi to Tom in New York.
Tom, how are you?
Good, Sean.
How are you doing?
I'm good.
What's happening?
Google knows where the past where the emails came from, and Eric Schmidt's not saying because why?
He's a big supporter of Hillary.
He wanted to be her his out her outside advisor.
And Google knows when they use the real password for John dot gmail.com and to use the real password to get into the account to have an IP address, exactly where Those hackers came from.
But no one's brought this up.
I think it's really a key point that Trump's got to focus on.
So in other words, you're saying that there is forensic evidence, surefire, 100% accurate forensic evidence.
If we wanted it, it's there.
Absolutely.
And the uh email that they got, which they uh the phishing email said someone hacked your email from Ukraine.
So Google, every time someone logs into your account, collects a forensic piece of evidence, a fingerprint, if you will, that says exactly where you're logging into your account from.
Now, since the hackers had the real password of John Podesta, they were able to log in basically without any uh sophisticated hacking expertise.
It's as if you gave your password to uh your assistant and they log in.
But Google knows exactly where that login came from.
Now, why hasn't Google come out and said yes, it's a good point.
You're raising a great point.
You know, the other day I actually had come up on one of my computers, devices.
Uh and by the way, I have uh I'm not gonna expose everything.
I just have multiple How do you say this right?
Multiple things that I use to avoid who I really am.
That's why I use life lock.
But anyway, they can find it if they want to.
That's such a good point.
Anyway, thanks for the call, Tom.
So, but I have to tell you, they were devastated on November 8th.
They were devastated.
They were devastated.
Should I go over that evening just once quickly?
So it began with phony exit polls.
And I got a call from my daughter at about five o'clock, and she was called by people in the in their business, and her husband Jared, great guy, he was called, and they called me and they said I'm sorry, Dad.
It looks really bad.
Looks really, really bad.
I said, What's the problem?
Tell me.
Now I was doing it's very interesting, because I really assumed I lost.
You know, look, I believe that these things are supposed to be correct.
So I sort of thought I lost, and I was okay with it.
I wouldn't say great.
In fact, I called my vice president and I said, It's not looking good, right, Mike?
I said, not looking good.
You were getting the same numbers getting.
Of course, you know, a lot of it is phony stuff too, because they'll say Donald Trump is a bad person.
Do you agree or not?
So people would say, yeah.
No, but it's easier.
Then they have yes in a big box like that, and they have no, you can't find.
So, you know, a lot of it's phony deals going on.
But but I will tell you, so I got the call, and they said, Looks bad.
Looks really bad.
And they want to be nice to me.
This is they're talking this way because they wanted to be nice.
They actually thought we might lose strongly.
So I said, Don't worry about it, don't worry about it.
Whatever happens, happens.
Now, for the last month, I didn't do interviews.
All I did was these rallies.
I did three a day.
I did three a day.
For the last for the last month, I decided not to do interviews because they give you interviews and they chop up your sentences and they cut them short.
You'll have this beautiful flowing sentence where the back of the sentence reverts to the front and then cut the back of the sentence off, and I'd say I never said that.
So I said, you know what, I'm not gonna deal, they're very dishonest people.
I said, No.
I said, I'm not gonna deal with it.
I read the New York Times, I read other things, and I realize that the Democrats are not going to do what they have to do to stop him.
That the Democrats are rolling over unless they're changing it right now.
We have a chance to stop Trump with the Electoral College.
They're about to vote, and according to the Constitution and Alexander Hamilton, these are the reasons they can vote against him.
Right.
This is the Constitution.
Foreign involvement in the election, number one.
Check.
We all know that the Russians hacked into the whole thing.
Right.
Uh his business ties have already introduced unparallels and unconstitutional conflicts of interest.
He's not giving up.
Is he giving up his golf course in Scotland?
I don't think so.
Is he giving up his Trump hotel in Istanbul?
I don't think so.
He has postponed his um, what is it, the press conference he was supposed to have to announce what All of a sudden we're not going to hear about it until after the inauguration.
Probably.
And the third thing, of course, is check.
What?
Check.
The third thing, of course, is that uh Hamilton uh was wanted to prevent voters from the influence of outside actors, bullies, demagogues, and populism, which is got what got him in, uh, as Hamilton put in, an unqualified candidate who won over the masses with his talents for low intrigue and the little arts of popularity.
Read that, you know, celebrity.
Check.
So, in conclusion, these are the criteria with with which the electors should be voting against Trump be inaugurated.
So now the next question is.
All right, hour two, the insanity continues, as you can hear here, and it's it's only the tip of the iceberg in terms of the left and their continuous meltdown.
It just never ends.
You know, you can compare and contrast how they treated Obama in 08 to how they're treating Trump now.
It is exactly the opposite, as I was mentioning in the last hour.
Anyway, 800, 941 Sean, toll-free telephone number, uh, former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich is with us.
Uh so first they tried the recount, then they tried the the Russians hacked into it until we found out there's no new information, no new evidence.
The FBI and the National Director of Intelligence totally disagree with the politicized uh CIA analysis and administration analysis.
Then we learn that in fact Obama was briefed on Russia's DNC hack, but he didn't do anything about it, nor did he do anything for ten years about wiki leaks, and now we just keep hearing that all the electors are being intimidated into not voting for Donald Trump, which they are ob obligated to do.
What's your reaction?
Well, I think this is a good taste of what uh the next eight years are going to be like.
Yeah, pretty much.
The left's not going to give up.
They're going to fight very hard to do everything they can to either beat Trump to weaken the administration, to isolate it, to slow down change.
I mean, we're we're talking here about the end of their world.
You know, Donald Trump is the real deal.
He he is the first decisive change since 1932.
Much bigger, much deeper than Ronald Reagan, uh, and the left knows it, and they're they're facing you know, they're facing the end of their way of life.
You know, what's interesting is you've lived through this, and and I assume you're probably I remember you wrote a book years ago called Lessons Learned the Hard Way after you left being Speaker of the House.
I actually think it was one of your more reflective, thoughtful books, uh a personal journey, if you will.
So I would think that you could probably transfer some of those lessons to Trump and warn him what's about to happen and how they will try to delegitimize him.
That's right.
And I think they in fact I'm on the way up now to uh see the Trump folks.
Uh I'm talking to you from the National Airport in Washington.
Uh the the fact is we should understand this is life and death if you're on the left.
So they're not gonna give in.
This is not a uh good government election for the legal women voters, it's not the PTA meeting.
This is power over the most powerful nation in the world.
Trump is further scaring them because of the quality of the cabinet he's appointing.
I mean, he is bringing in people that nobody thought you could bring in.
And it is gonna be such a powerhouse of a cabinet, and they're all gonna be winners, and they're all gonna have an attitude of let's still get this job done.
And Washington hasn't seen anything like this in my lifetime.
It's it is gonna be absolutely amazing.
You see, I agree with you.
So you gave a speech, and that's really one of the main reasons I wanted to have you on today at the Heritage Foundation, describing what you call Trumpism.
Yeah, I I feel yesterday morning, it's available both at Gingrich Productions and Heritage.
If people want to look at it, we have over 75,000 people watched it yesterday at Gingrich Productions.
It was also live on C-SPAN.
And I was um I'm trying to describe the concept that this is about more than just Donald J. Trump.
This is a movement, it's a way of thinking, it's an approach.
Uh uh has very profound impact.
In fact, I gave a speech this morning At the National Defense University on the strategic implications of Trumpism in rethinking national security and how big a change it is.
Uh it's it's a remarkable moment.
To just take, for example, the choice of General Mattis to be Secretary of Defense.
This will require a waiver for a general officer to serve as Secretary of Defense, which has only been given one other time in nineteen fifty for George Catlin Marshall and during the Korean War.
And yet Trump's immediate reaction is well, of course we can get this done.
And everybody, Democrats and Republicans alike promptly said Mattis is such a great guy.
Of course he's going to get a waiver.
Well, that's so different than the world of Washington, which six weeks ago would have said, obviously you can't consider him because of this federal law.
But Trump's attitude is look, if the law's stupid, change it.
But it's really a cool approach.
Well, I I've got to imagine.
You know, and uh look for example, if we are to break down the Obama presidency in the last eight years and the fact that he used executive orders and and and the presidential fiat to bypass Congress and and separation of powers and co equal branches of government, I would imagine, and this is my breakdown, seventy-five to eighty percent of Obama's agenda could be wiped away with the stroke of a pen, probably in the first few hours of a Trump administration.
Then I would imagine, as we have now heard, that Obamacare being repealed and replaced.
That's going to be wiped out.
So now we're at about ninety percent.
And really the only evidence that Barack Obama was in the White House for the last eight years remaining will be that he accumulated more debt than all forty three presidents before him combined and his judicial appointments.
Short of that, what what what else exists?
Well, there's gonna be a very nice portrait.
Okay, so a portrait.
Every president gets a portrait.
So somewhere in the White House, there'll be a really nice portrait.
And if you're Barack Obama now, you're thinking everything I've done for eight years is gonna be wiped clean.
It's like he never was there.
Guess what?
So guess what?
He's gonna be very bitter, very hostile, and he's gonna go out and he's gonna attack Donald Trump regularly.
Um that's just a fact.
And what we gotta do is relax.
It's uh it's like dealing with the propaganda media.
Um I I went for a short the other morning because the pseudo-conservative who writes for the uh Washington Post uh wrote this column in which she said that this is a cabinet, this is this is uh Who was it that wrote it?
Uh I can't remember her name.
I I think Jennifer Jennifer Rubin, yeah.
Jennifer Rubin.
I'm trying to memorize her name, and it's hard because she's so stupid.
But she fits what would uh you've heard me talk before about this wonderful essay that people can Google called um Intellectual Yet Idiots or IYI.
Gingrich bashes, idiots in the propaganda media.
That's right.
And she's a perfect example of what Taleb's talking about.
She's an intellectual yet an idiot.
She writes this thing and says this is gonna be a cabinet of quote, ignoramuses, billionaires, and a couple generals.
Now, first of all, the arrogance of a person whose entire career has been sitting at the Washington Post writing opinion columns, deciding she will render judgment.
I mean, is she talking about our good friend Rick Perry, the new Secretary of Energy, who is the longest serving governor in the history of Texas?
Is she talking about the new ambassador to the United Nations, Governor Hit Nikki Haley, who actually was an accountant, ran a small business, is governor of a state.
Are these the kind of people that Jennifer Rubin is judging as ignoramus?
Is she talking about a world class, literally world class pediatric neurosurgeon who had a movie made about his life called Gifted Hands.
Is this what she thinks is an ignoramus?
I mean, I'm you're gonna hear me in the next year take on the left-wing media harder than we ever took on Hillary Clinton, because I am sick of the arrogance and the stupidity.
People who pro who parade themselves forth as though they know something.
You know, it's funny because over at Red State, which was once a pretty good website run by our friend Eric Erikson and has been sold.
I mean, I had this woman writing the other day that I'm a racist because I retweeted a picture of somebody rubbing their face in Cheetos, and apparently there was some word that I'd never even heard of before in the thing that that's an alt-right term.
And I'm like, I don't e I never heard of alt-right until this election cycle.
Have you?
Well, first of all, what are the they're rubbing their face in Cheetos?
Yeah, to have an orange face like Trump.
That's a racist comment.
Wait, wait.
Did you have a well apparently the guy used so the guy the guy that had put the picture up and the video up had a word that she is claiming is an alt-right term, and then she tried to take the word, even though I was tweeting the video and say this is evidence that Sean Hannity's adopted altitions.
Now I never heard of alt right before this election cycle.
I didn't I didn't either I mean maybe alt right is our version of stupid left.
I I have no idea.
I call it the alt radical left now because I'm just playing on their stupid games.
I think I want to start talking about the stupid left.
These are people who may have PhDs and tenure but they're stupid.
You know I will say this look here's to me what I I know I'm repeating myself but I think it bears repeating.
To me this is simple.
Originalists on the Supreme Court repatriation, low taxes, uh seven brackets to three, fifteen percent corporate rate, get rid of Obamacare, health savings accounts, open up all energy so we become energy independent, create jobs, have the security benefits, help our Western European friends uh term limits I still love that idea and draining the corrupt swamp.
Education back to states build the wall and have a strong military and fix the VA.
What's so hard about this?
Well getting it done is gonna be hard because the left is going to fight us every single inch of the way that's the right things to do.
I'll tell you what my standard is I wake up every morning and I am so happy that Hillary Clinton is not going to be president that there's almost nothing Donald J. Trump can do to make me I just think you know compared to how miserable I'd feel right now if we were looking at the Clinton cabinet can you imagine the gap we've got to do this.
We're gonna try to figure out who would she have picked and compare them to who he has picked.
I mean his cabinet is so superior.
You want to laugh unbelievable.
All right so this is how they're describing Donald Trump's picks in the in the liberal media it was in newsbusters today.
Racially insensitive hardline radicals ignoramuses calamity to the poor an environmental disaster.
When Obama made his cabinet picks in oh eight they were hailed as a diverse mosaic an all star team superstar geniuses full of brain power um a team of geniuses that the media hasn't learned a thing being so wrong in this election.
Just take the example of Nikki Haley Indian American small businesswoman becomes governor of South Carolina now appointed to be the ambassador of the US if she were a liberal Democrat they would be swooning over her.
She would get the cover of all the women's magazines you know an example of American success.
But because she's a Republican they don't know what to do with it.
They know they can't quite attack her it's very hard to say she's a racist and it's very hard to say she's a sexist so they actually don't know anything to say about her.
All right well we're going to continue this discussion on TV tonight.
I'm actually doing something I think you'll like you talk about Trumpism and I'm gonna have you explain that tonight and I'm gonna lay out the history of why what Donald Trump's going to do on the economy work for Kennedy and Reagan and I hope you'll be able to see it.
Yeah I'm looking forward to it and by the way I do have a new book called Electing Trump which is now that's right yeah it's uh it's an ebook it's an ebook on Amazon and it's on my website Hannity.com and it's just great great fun.
I look forward to tonight's good and I'm gonna be on the set with you.
I'm on the way to New York all right we'll see you then thank you Mr. Speaker all right eight hundred nine four one Sean toll free telephone number I think it's really important for everybody to understand what our challenge is Russia trying to influence our elections dates back to the Soviet Union.
What they did here hacking some emails and releasing them is not a particularly fancy brand of espionage or propaganda.
we were frankly more concerned in the run-up to the election to the possibilities of vote tampering, which we did not see evidence of and were confident that we could guard against.
Now, of course, that's Obama.
Glad you're with us.
25 till the top of the hour.
Oh, this has been going on for centuries.
They've always tried to attack us.
Well, Obama also laughed off the idea that we could ever be hacked immediately.
before the election and now of course this is all part of the delegitimizing process that they're involved in with Donald Trump here to help explain a little bit about how foreign countries try and influence outside countries is John McLaughlin also go over some poll numbers here in a minute um now you were Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's poster in Israel in his last election correct that is true.
And we have since discovered that three hundred thousand taxpayer State Department dollars were spent to help groups in Israel defeat Netanyahu that Obama had put into the into play, correct?
By the Obama administration, but that was only the tip of the iceberg.
Well, that's what I want to talk about, the tip of the iceberg.
So is it a fair statement?
You were the pollster, you were there, you were on the ground the whole time in Israel.
I talk to you every day.
Is it a fair statement to say that Barack Obama and his cohorts tried to influence the Israeli election and hurt Benjamin Netanyahu and help him lose?
Absolutely.
They wanted to stop him from speaking to Congress.
They wanted to silence his opposition to the Iran deal.
And they had a super pack set up run by Jeremy Byrd, who is the political director for Obama for America with the one mission, and he had other opera Obama operatives on it and was funded by millions of dollars from Obama supporters.
It was d their sole objective was to defeat Benjamin Netanyahu.
Was it an effective effort?
Was it a force to reckon with for you?
It was.
At times we were losing that race.
Absolutely.
I mean, they were well organized.
They're they're you they're a machine.
They know what they're doing.
They're very good, and uh th at times we were losing the election and they were they were extremely forceful.
So when you think of how do you get to spend three hundred and fifty thousand dollars sent to one voice to support the group's effort to back Israeli Palestinian peace settlements, but it's really used to build a voter database, train activists, hire a political consulting firm with ties to the Obama campaign, all of which set the stage for an anti Benjamin Netanyahu campaign.
Right.
And they did it.
And Congress did Republicans like Senator Portman in Ohio, they did press an investigation, Claire McCaskill, the Democrat from Missouri reported on it.
But the mainstream media doesn't pick it up.
And the mainstream media, you know, I mean, and this you know, we did this news survey for Secure America Now, which we posted on our website at McLaughlin Online dot com.
And one of the results of that poll is when we ask them, uh, is the media biased against President Elect Trump, and fifty-three percent say yes, and only thirty-four percent say our media is not biased against them.
So the majority of Americans see our media as as in effect our opposition.
They they've lost all credibility to mainstream media.
So I agree with all of that.
And uh I mean, that's the thing about this.
All right, let me move on to the survey.
Uh I was fascinated by it.
Now we have sixty-one percent of American voters say the in fact the election was fairly conducted.
Only twenty-six percent of the hardcore radical conspiracy believing Michael Moore left, the alt radical left say no.
Right.
Uh even Clinton voters, most of them don't say yes.
So it's it's it's the Americans see this as a fairly conducted election, in spite of the propaganda.
And also, you have almost seven in ten voters, sixty eight percent say that Hillary Obama and Hillary should urge these protesters to accept the election results.
Even the Clinton voters say they should forget.
Yeah, that's sixty eight percent.
You know, listen to this, for example.
I want to play Barack Obama.
This is in October, lecturing Donald Trump to stop whining.
But but the larger point that I uh uh I want to emphasize here is that there is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even you could even rig America's elections, in part because they're so decentralized, and the numbers of votes involved.
There's no evidence that that has happened in the past, or that there are instances in which that will happen this time.
And so uh I'd advise Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes.
And if he got the most votes, then it would be my expectation of Hillary Clinton to offer a gracious concession speech and pledge to work with him in order to make sure that the American people benefit from an effective government.
And it would be my job to welcome Mr. Trump, regardless of what he said about me or my differences with him on my opinions, and escort him over to this Capitol, in which there would be a peaceful transfer of power.
That's what Americans do.
That's why America's already great.
One way of weakening America and making it less great is if you start betraying those basic American traditions that have been bipartisan uh and have helped to hold together this democracy now for well over two centuries.
Now, this is Hillary Clinton lecturing Trump n on numerous occasions.
That is not the way our democracy works.
We've been around for two hundred and forty years.
We've had free and fair elections, we've accepted the outcomes when we may not have liked them, and That is what must be expected of anyone standing on a debate stage during a general election.
And then he's gone out and talked about rigged elections and he's tried to rile up all of his supporters and his rallies and it's really painful to see this.
But in that last debate, he said something truly horrifying.
And that was that he wouldn't say he would accept the results of the election.
This is his final target.
Our democracy itself.
Wow.
Pretty profound.
Now look, they've tried to have the recount.
That failed.
Now they've also tried to go out there and complain the Russians did it, even though there's no new information.
We had every bit of information before the election and they said everything's fine.
And now the third thing they're doing is intimidating electors to the point where is one professor suggesting today that they might be able to stop electors from voting for Trump like they're supposed to.
And you know what this is all about?
It's so obvious, it's so transparent.
In that poll that I mentioned that's on our website, McLaughlin Online dot com that's Secure America now did.
Donald Trump has a job approval rating that is net positive right now, forty-eight percent to forty-one percent.
They the Americans approve of what he's doing.
And in the campaign, he had over sixty percent unfavorable at certain times in this campaign.
Right now his favorable unfavorable rating is forty-five percent favorable and only forty-nine percent unfavorable.
So his positives are moving rapidly.
And if he gets net positive in January, as he becomes president and is sworn in, he is going to try to try to pass his agenda, which this is what they're trying to delegitimize.
Because in that same poll, America's right now only thirty-nine percent want to continue Obama's policies.
Fifty-two percent the majority want change.
They want to repeal and replace Obamacare, sixty percent to thirty-three percent.
They want to tear up the Iran deal due to lack of U.S. inspections, fifty-one percent to twenty-two percent.
The majority f would cut off uh federal funds to the cities that don't, you know, uh turn in criminal illegal aliens, sixty-two percent to twenty-seven percent.
So there's a lot that the Liberals trying to pr are trying to pret protect by delegitimizing Trump, because if he stays positive and keeps I mean, he's got a really good job approval for a president elect right now, he's got uh his his favorables are moving up, his unfairables are moving down.
If he it takes off his net positive But his job approval, he was never on the upside positive side.
Now at 4841, I mean that rivals where Obama is right now.
Oh, it's better.
The President's at fifty-three, but it's closer.
His negatives are higher at 45.
And Obama, the only reason he was upside down until the summer, when people realized he can't do anything anymore, then all of a sudden they're good.
He's retiring, so we think we approve the job he's doing.
But for the last two years he was upside down.
And it's not the Russians that did the job to elect Trump.
It's Obama and Hillary.
It was Obama's fair p failed policies, and it was Hillary's corruption.
That's what we ran against.
That's what those of us who were polling for Trump and helping advise on the strategy, that's what we were running against.
That's what helped elect the.
But when you look at these numbers, I looked at your poll.
When when only thirty-three percent are against the repealing and replacing of Obamacare, when only twenty-two percent don't want Trump to tear up the Iran deal, when uh you know twenty-seven percent would cut off Federal funds to cities uh not cut off not cut off funds to cities, you know, these these uh protected criminals illegal aliens, right.
So I mean it seems like Trump's won the argument.
Yes.
And his message is the Democrats are looking at this and if they don't stop him right now, Trump's gonna go in office in January, he'll pass his tax cut plan, he'll get the economy growing again.
He will expand the coalition of people that we that we made where we combined the rush belt with the Sun Belt and we created this Heartland uh uh this Heartland Voter Coalition, which is bordering on a majority where if all of a sudden the economy grows and he's keeping us stronger and safer, then you're gonna look at a at a Republican Party that will expand into a governing majority that the Democrats could be out of luck for years.
Well, I think I think that's inevitable.
For example, if he brings in the repatriation multinational corporation money at a low rate of ten percent, that that's trillions of dollars that'll be spent if he further incentivizes them and says, All right, if you invest in in Cleveland, Detroit, Milwaukee, and Philadelphia, and he has a number of ribbon cutting ceremonies because these companies they do want to build in an environment where where regulation is not going to be so burdensome and corporate taxes will be dropped to fifteen percent.
And then he follows it up with education choice charter schools for kids starting in inner cities because they have been disproportionately impacted in a negative way, then I would argue that that all these people, all these arguments that Republicans are racist, racist, racist, whatever, they all go away.
Because if people are finally given jobs and opportunity and good schools for their kids, I can't imagine them going back to a party that has done nothing for them.
Right.
And and you've hit the nail on the head.
Twenty-one percent of the Democrats now approve of the job that Trump is doing.
Twenty-four percent of African Americans, that's triple what he got as the vote.
Forty-four percent of Hispanics, that's almost double what he got as the vote.
They approve of what Trump is doing now as President elect.
What do you see as any any warning signs for him, if any on this poll?
Uh if he doesn't accomplish what he set out, he's got to keep his promises and he's got he's got to make sure his policies succeed.
I mean he's he's running sixty-two percent of these voters still think that the country's on the wrong track.
Well the way he gets off uh gets back on the right track is for him to implement his policies as you said, you know, growing the economy again.
Yeah but it there is a lag time.
If you look in the Reagan years for example it took about two and a half years.
Yeah you're you're you know you're younger than I am so I still have the scars from the eighty two midterms when we lost twenty six members of the House we actually gained a Senate seat for trying and uh you know I could see that the midterms there's going to be a leg, particularly with I think you had incredible growth at what, eight, nine percent and and you had you know twenty million jobs created and then an explosion, an economic boom revenues to the government ended up doubling when re when Reagan was president.
And he won reelection with sixty percent.
He won forty nine states.
Right.
And he put us on a path to uh uh to to what eventually Newt Green good bring her bring uh bring around as a Republican majority in Congress.
Yeah.
So we have these majorities now and and Donald Trump instead of winning by a plurality the next election he could you know four years he could he could win reelection with a clear decisive majority.
Yeah I think it's pretty amazing.
All right well how you think he has like I do what six, eight months I uh absolutely he has the first year.
I mean think the economy's flat secure the the one thing you got to be vigilant on is security because right now Americans are uh and you know uneasy about things with uh terror attacks etc.
In this same poll when we asked him about uh you know the top issue it's absolutely creating jobs and and also uh keeping America safe from terror attacks.
So uh uh those those those should be his priorities initially as he gets in and it's gonna take some time to get the economy growing again but you look at the perception, the good feelings I mean there's a poll about among small business owners they're very optimistic right now and the other ones who have been beat down by the regulations in the government so that optimism people will give it time and at the same time you could look at the the market again it's going up and uh uh it's it's been uh you know they were saying there was gonna be an economic collapse when he got elected just the opposite it's
the opposite.
Yeah we're you know at the twenty thousand mark on the Dow it's insane.
Absolutely and I don't trust the stock market nor do I think the stock market matters to the people that went out and voted for Donald Trump because if you're in poverty, if you're on food stamps, if you're out of work, you know the stock market doesn't mean a thing to you.
So you're absolutely right about that working class people, they want to know that they're secure in their jobs, that they have security with their health care.
They want to they want to see some pay raises for a change.
Yeah totally agree.
All right John good work.
We appreciate it 800 941 Sean if you want to be a part of the program and Coulter joins us at the top of the hour.
We got an awesome Hannity too tonight 10 Eastern on the Fox News channel.
Donald Trump mentioned that he had a phone call with you.
How did that conversation go?
I had an opportunity to talk to him about innovation.
And a lot of his message is has been about things where uh he sees things not as as good as he'd like but uh in the same way that President Kenny Kennedy talked about the space mission and got the country behind that I think that whether it's education or stopping epidemics,
other health breakthroughs, uh finishing polio, and in this energy space there can be a very upbeat message that his administration is going to organize things, get rid of regulatory barriers, and have American leadership through innovation be one of the things that uh he he gets behind.
America's lost one third of our manufacturing job since NAFTA.
We've lost seventy thousand factories.
Think of it, seventy thousand.
It's like doesn't even sound like it's possible.
And I know it's right because I've said it for the last month and a half and they never corrected me, so it has to be.
Because CNN sucks on their own.
It's not like Trump led the charge.
Anyway, news roundup and information overload hour.
Always a privilege and a pleasure to have back Ann Coulter, author of the best selling book and Trump We Trust.
How are you, Miss Coulter?
Fantastic.
How are you?
You know, you hate doing phone interviews, you tell me.
Why do you hate doing phone interviews?
No, I like doing phone interviews.
Oh, I thought you always tell me you like to be in studio.
Well, no, no, because you always say when I'm in New York, I'd like to come in studio.
You like to come in the studio and do it live.
Oh, well, if it's convenient, yeah, I think the sound quality's better, and of course, I like chatting with you and having candy and talking to them.
There's all sorts of fun little experiences that you have that behind the scenes.
Um I know you have hell bent especially on the issue of Department of Homeland Security.
Uh are you happy with the choice?
Um well uh the good news today is the great Stephen Miller, who recently turned thirty, um, came from Senator Session's office.
He was um very involved in Trump's uh writing Trump's or helping with Trump's immigration policy paper, and he's been writing all those magnificent speeches of Trump's.
Um he's going to be the White House policy director, so I'm already sleeping a lot better at night.
Um I really like this guy, Rex Tillerson, and uh you know, th the strange thing is I mean, you and I were on the same side, as were most of my friends on the Iraq war.
Um, and I'd still defend it, except for for the the fact I did not know that I lived in a country that would elect um Barack Obama who would then turn our victory into a defeat.
Um but whether whether the uh anti-Iraq war people were right in saying this was doomed to failure from the beginning, or I'm right that that we won, they were waving their purple fingers, it was a crucial war to wage, and then Obama came in and gave it away.
I certainly wouldn't want to go and do it again.
But during that whole I I I really think Americans are are tired of war.
I think Trump really hit on something with that.
And our thought is we've been suffering um middle class and working class wages have not only not gone up but but gone down in the past thirty years, and and America needs a little me time.
That was a big part, a big theme of of Trump's campaign and a winning theme that I completely 100% agree with.
Um at the time when we were supporting the Iraq war, we were accused by some of being um these warmongering hawks, neo-conservatives, and I've been always baffled by this slander.
Well, now I see that half of my party actually are war.
Uh oh, did we just lose Anne Coulter?
Wow.
Now losing Coulter's like a big deal.
Because that's the problem.
If you're in studio, you don't have a a problem at all with your telephones.
Anyway, we'll get her back here in just a second.
But uh Anne, of course, was on the front lines.
One of my favorite cuts when we run that montage of people, and you know, all saying, uh Donald.
Donald Trump can't be president.
Anne Coulter in in Mi in I guess June of twenty fifteen said it on Bill Marshall, she got laughed at.
And guess what?
She turned out to be right.
All right, we lost you.
What happened?
I think it was at your end.
Um but in any event I now see, and I described this in in my latest New York Times um best seller, uh, in Trump We Trust.
I have a whole chapter on all of these Republicans, non-Trump Republicans, um, trying to be like Reagan.
But it's a different world from when Reagan was president.
Primarily Reagan won the Cold War.
They seem to have forgotten that.
Um and half of more than that, pretty much all of the Republicans on those primary stages were champing at the bit to go to war with Russia.
Um, you know, I don't want to live in Russia, I don't want to live in Sweden or Japan, but they aren't the Soviet Union anymore.
Um, and I've just been baffled at this idea that we c must have a Secretary of State who wants to start wars all over the Middle East and with Russia.
I mean, that was that was a division between Hillary and and Donald Trump and and Trump won.
Um we don't need to go to war.
We could use a Secretary of State who uh again, as I was saying at the beginning, cares about America and doing things for America, and America needs energy.
So I think it's great we have um this Exxon guy as Secretary of State.
Uh I agree with you.
I don't have a problem with it.
I know my good friend Tony Perkins is upset because of his position with the Boy Scouts and gay scoutmasters of some whatever thing.
And I just said, Well, what's Secretary of State's not gonna have any impact on that at all ever?
That's not what the role of a Secretary of State is.
Yeah, I think that's right, though, it's always worth pointing out um what PC lickspitals most of corporate America is.
Um yeah, they just don't want to be harassed by social justice warriors, so it they go along with all of this nonsense.
Um I I I will really sleep well at night if Chris Kobeck ends up at Homeland Security, um, and I'm not at all happy about this Andrew Husder um as Secretary of Labor.
He's Mr. Amnesty.
He wants to replace American workers with with cheap foreign labor.
He's totally on record with a huge supporter of Marco Rubio's amnesty, and that's the guy who's going to be in charge of labor.
I mean, I don't know, put him at EPA or something.
Um but but Democrats have their own reason for opposing him.
Um so with any luck he won't get through.
I just don't understand why labor wouldn't be the great Peter Kersinow a a who would actually like to be labor.
He is a civil rights commissioner right now and a proud graduates of Cornell University, um, surprisingly, with a name like Peter Kersenau, he's also black.
Um so you get you get your diversity points with no compromise on on anything.
I d I I was reading him for years without even realizing that or realizing that he was an illustrious graduate of my alma mater.
Do you talk to Donald Trump much?
Um none of your beeswax.
What do you mean?
What do you mean none of my beeswax?
What are we in third grade?
Good grief.
Why do you ask?
Have you talked to him since the election?
How about that?
Why do you ask?
Because I I um I know how you are.
I mean, you're and you don't need to ask.
Okay, no, I know how you are in terms of when you want something done and you believe strongly in something, uh there's no mistaking at the end of the conversation how you feel and how strongly you feel about it.
And uh I agree with you on immigration, and I agree with your passion, and I agree with with all of the things look, I uh the the Trump is another point about immigration that I think is is important and something that that I I mean for all of his virtues that Trump at least has absolutely no experience with, and that's in the political world.
Um his other issues, which are very popular, um, or or wouldn't nobody else would bring them up, but they're popular when he does them, saving American jobs, um, you know, reducing the price of energy, reducing regulations, um uh repealing Obamacare.
He's not gonna get any pushback from Republicans on 90% of what he wants to do and things that will make America great again.
When it comes to immigration, that is the one issue he will get not only pushback but World War Three from his own party, from the Democrats from the Wall Street Journal, from George Soros.
So that's that's why, I mean, besides the fact that it determines what kind of country we're living in and whether we are living in a country that would elect someone like Barack Obama who would give away our victory in in Iraq.
Um besides it being the most important issue, it's also the one he's gonna face the most resistance on and will need the best people for.
And when you look at back at um I mean start with the first George Bush.
This is what I wrote about last week.
He even knew how the Democrats were going to to it to undermine him.
He said it in his iconic convention speech.
He described how the Democrats, Congress would come to him and say, um, because he promised no new taxes, and they'll come to me and and say, we've got to raid taxes, raise taxes, and I'll say no new taxes.
And they'll come at me again and I'll say no new taxes.
And they'll come at me again and I'll say read my lips, no new taxes.
So he knew he was what was going to happen.
He was a great predictor, a great prognosticator.
Everything he said came true.
But instead of him saying no new taxes, he caved.
And that was not only the end of his presidency, um, but it was incredibly damaging to the Republican Party because the Democrats had tricked um a naive Republican into giving away this signature issue.
And so it would be very dangerous, more dangerous than than any anything facing the Trump administration if he were manipulated or as you make of said manipulated into giving up the issue of immigration.
What do you think of this effort to undermine?
First it was the recount, then it was the Russians hacked, even though there's no new evidence at all, and the FBI and director of national intelligence disagree.
And I know because I've interviewed a number of these people, electors being harassed to change their votes away from Trump.
What do you make of the effort to delegitimize him?
It's hilarious.
Um and the fake news claims, then, you know, I open the New York Times and the Washington Post, and they're pushing the fake news about how Russia wanted to elect Trump.
I I I love that idea.
Think of all of the gains Russia made with um Hillary as Secretary of State.
They got 20% of our uranium.
Um they they took invaded Crimea.
Um Russia has replaced the United States as a leader in the Middle East, um, and I'm not really against that since they're fighting ISIS.
Um, but nonetheless, uh and but he'd prefer Trump, the someone who's who's described as as a lunatic who can be baited into dropping nukes with a tweet.
Um it it doesn't make any sense.
The FBI disputes it.
One of the main proponents of this of this Russia, I mean the articles in the New York Times and the Washington Post, they're all anonymous sources from the CIA, an agency we really need to get rid of because it is utterly useless and eats up a lot of tax money.
We have the worst as I've and this isn't this isn't something I'm bringing up for the first time now.
My loyal readers know I have been making fun of U.S. intelligence for um a good decade now.
We have the worst intelligence collecting in the world.
It's worse than Walmart's intelligence because the Democrats decided to destroy the CIA after Watergate.
They said it, they're on the record, they held the hearings, and they did it.
So we have no intelligence.
CIA agents sit around reading the Islamabad Post.
Yeah, well, we also know look at these are the same people that advanced the narrative without talking to the people that were on the ground in Benghazi that, oh, it was a spontaneous demonstration, and they just happen to have RPGs and mortars in their back pocket and spontaneously decided to attack.
That's right, that's right.
The one guy who's on the record who is not in the government right now is Mike Morrell, who is working for a Hillary affiliated organization and was involved in in the vast um and serious Benghazi fake news um coming straight out of the administration.
You know, I I find this whole thing pretty amazing because it's so obvious to me why this election turned out the way it did.
It's so obvious that they're so bitter.
The media has now doubled down on stupid.
I mean, if your CNN and last night you're watching the rally, and in the middle of the rally that you're covering your network, this crowd is massive crowd of screaming CNN sucks.
I mean, if you're a Jeff Zucker, what are you thinking?
To quote Michelle Obama, I've never been so proud of my country.
For the first time in your adult life?
Yes.
Yeah, exactly.
No, they are fantastic, these Trump supporters.
Um I'm I'm I'm not shocked at how the election turned out, but I do think it's I mean, the pendulum swings.
Um, we do have to be careful um to protect the victory that Trump has won, and I think Republicans should always remember um that if immigration merely continues, uh, if we don't let in one new immigrant over the next four years and run this exact same election, Trump loses.
Most of those battleground states were 4849 post-1970 immigrants are voting 80 percent for the Democrats.
Immigration isn't just one little issue like pro-life or transgender bathrooms.
It is every issue.
This is our final chance.
I gotta let you go.
Ann Coulter, thank you so much for being with us.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
Good to talk to you, Sean.
All right, so all these years, I'm now in my 30th year since I started radio in my life.
30 years.
I'm in my 21st year at the Fox News Channel.
And I really love the warmth of radio.
Radio is a warm medium.
I mean, you could tell by somebody's voice.
I get a mental image every time I talk to somebody that calls into this radio program.
I know what that person looks like, or at least I have a mental image of them.
Some people meet me and they say, geez, you're a younger and skinnier in in person.
And I'm like, what am I a fat old guy on TV?
It's ridiculous.
What does that mean?
And then you're taller in person.
So I'm fat, old, and short on TV.
I don't know why people say that, but it's funny.
Everyone has an image, and I'm sitting behind a desk, so what do I know?
And I've done the TV show, as I said, for 21 years on the Fox News channel, and did a little TV before that.
But one of the things over the years that I know that really touches me deeply is either movies or music.
Those are the two things that touch people deeply.
For example, you know, you go to a Garth Brooks concert.
I was talking to a guy today at the Hollywood Reporter, and it's like an emotional roller coaster.
You know, friends in low places, you know, you're rowdy and fun and rip roaring and having a beer and hanging with your friends, and then you know, then he comes up with a song like The Dance, or a song like If Tomorrow Never Comes, or Kenny Chesney does the same thing at his concerts, or Brooks and Dunn or any of my friends in country music.
You go kind of go through an emo emotional roller coaster.
And you know, you'll see Kenny Chesney, and and he's there talking about um this guy that thinks his life is over.
What's the name of that song?
I forget.
You know that song by Kenny Chesney?
I don't know.
Anyway, Ken I do.
What is it?
Can't think of it right now, but I know exactly what you're talking about.
You know the song took There Goes My Life.
Thank you.
There goes my life.
Linda, you're the music There Goes My Life.
Oh, that's a beautiful song.
I watched Kenny Chesney do the concert.
I look out in the crowd and there's people crying.
You go to movies, people cry.
Nobody cried.
The only people that cry listening or watching me are liberals.
And I like them crying.
But it's not like I've I've touched them deeply.
Anyway, so over the years I have become friends with Kevin Sorbo, known for Hercules fame and God's Not Dead fame.
And I wrote him a note after I saw one of his movies, and I said, if there's ever a really good project, I want to be involved.
That's how it happened.
So he, his wife Sam, and another guy named Dan Gordon, they had a project that they put together, and they they flew from LA to New York, and we sat in my office.
They explained the movie in about 30 seconds.
I said, I'm in.
And I became the executive producer of the movie.
And we just announced it today, although I have no idea how it got announced.
I just look at the Drudge Report earlier today, and it was rough on the Drudge Report.
Um, and I'm really happy about it.
I'm really proud of it for a couple of reasons.
The movie has a great message.
The movie takes you on that emotional roller coaster.
I have screened, I have the first cut of the movie, and I've screened it in front of very close friends, and in every case, they laugh, they cry, and it accomplished everything I would ever want any project I'm involved in in a movie to accomplish.
I mean, how many more movies can we see based on cartoon characters?
All right, Superman, Batman, Batman and Robin, Batman and Superman, you know, Captain Whoever, America, and it goes on and on.
So I invited uh Sam Sorbo, actually helped write the script, and Kevin Sorbo, and their their kids are also in the movie, Braden and Shane and Octavia.
Octavia's definitely the best looking one in the family.
You boys, you need help.
She didn't make the cut.
She did something.
She's she didn't make the She's in the wedding scene.
She's in the wedding scene.
You're right.
She is in the wedding scene, yes.
But that's and that's all she did.
So to be fair, she didn't have a speaking role in the movie, but she was an extraordinary.
Octavia, I still think you did better than your brother.
She steals the show.
You steal the show.
So I had this experience.
I've never done this movie before, and working with you, Kevin and working with you, Sam, was an eye-opening experience for me.
You guys handled all the heavy lifting.
I'm gonna be blunt.
I don't know why I get the executive producer title, but uh but in reality, you did most of the heavy lifting.
Yes, but without financing, we don't have a movie.
So I'm good for something.
And every movie that's kind of a huge sort of part of it.
Listen, I'm uh I'm admitting this for me financially is a big risk, and I didn't do it for the money.
I did it because I I love the way movies touch people's hearts and souls.
And if this movie doesn't do it, I don't know what will be.
Well, that's I mean, for me, that's the reason I even want to be an actor.
I wanted to I wanted to be involved in something that made me laugh, made me cry, made me think, made me get angry, made me get happy.
I mean, that's that's I think that's why people go see movies for the most part.
But you're right.
There's a lot of movies that you walk out of.
You got a great visual effects, you got a great roller coaster ride, but you come out not really caring about any of the characters or anybody.
This is the type of movie that will make people fall in love with the characters.
I hate some of the characters, but it will make them laugh and cry.
I loved your I love the way they quoted you.
What did you compare it to Ghost, God's Not Dead, and uh one other movie, do you remember?
Kevin Canwait.
No, Heavens No, Heavens for Real.
Heavens for Real.
Sorry, my bad.
Heaven can wait's got a little bit of that too, though.
Because this movie does have some good comedic moment.
Yeah, with all due respect, I mean, you are a total jerk in the beginning of this movie.
Thank you.
And you do a really good No, you are he really is.
I mean, you're an arrogant, glitterati, paparazzi, loved by the the mainstream media kind of figure.
And you're the atheist.
Yeah.
And you're beating the crap out of this poor innocent Christian guy in a debate.
I'm kind of playing an A-lister in Hollywood.
Yeah.
Basically, exactly.
And and I, you know, and then we begin to I don't want to give the story away because I'm gonna give it away.
But it it's what you go through as a character, this emotional roller coaster, and here's your real life wife.
By the way, you you he married way out of his league.
Just as a side note.
This is what I keep telling him.
Come on, I did I played Hercules for seven years.
Come on.
All right, seriously.
I gotta do it.
You're gonna play the Hercules card on me, really?
Um But it's such an emotional movie, an emotional roller coaster, and and you at one point in the movie, you are his saving grace.
Yeah.
I it's I wrote it that way.
She's a big part of it, and also the boys playing our really good.
Playing a boys in the movie also play an amazing role in sort of slapping me up on the long side of the head because um you know, Braden's character in the movie definitely doesn't take any guff from me at all.
In fact, he's he sees right through you.
He sees right through me.
Yeah.
The the the loving one I get is from Shane.
He wants to protect his mom.
Yeah.
No question.
Which is often the case with with kids of divorce, right?
They have to take on uh the roles in the gotta throw in a little plug because we're gonna be on your show tonight, which I love, and people will see uh the for the first time a couple of clips from the movie.
Yeah.
All right.
Now, this is also I've been in a couple of movies, but very small parts.
This is what shocked me.
So I do three hours live radio every day, I do an hour live TV every night, and I do a small part with you guys, and we have to tape it four hundred times, even though and I can't memorize lines.
I ever do is it true or false.
So I'm in a scene with both of you.
And how uh we did at least twenty-five takes different angles, different this, different that.
Yes, when you look at all the different angles, it was that many times, right?
I'm like, we gotta do it.
I don't think I ever once did it exactly the same as it.
It didn't matter, it turned out great every time.
Yeah.
All right, you're being nice.
You did a great job.
You did a great job.
All right.
Now, but here's the important part.
What I say, and I can't really go into this, makes you cry in the movie.
Yeah.
Every one of the 25 takes, you cried.
I'm gonna start crying right now.
And I'm sitting there, I'm like, how does she do that?
How do you do that?
It's just that you build in you build in the stakes, and if the stakes are high enough, then then the response will be the same every time.
Very roughly the same.
Explain what that means.
That means um I could not do what you do.
So what you say to the I don't even cry in real life.
But what you Well, I do, right?
So what you say to me in the movie is so important to me.
Right.
And what I'm hearing is different than what your character's saying.
What I'm hearing is what my what me personally, what Sam needs to hear.
You're you're saying to me exactly what I need to hear, and it's triggering that emotional response.
It's it's acting.
That's what acting is.
Wow.
Can you do that too?
Yeah.
I did it in the movie, didn't you see it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the thing.
If you think about it, if you think about the when he has his big breakdown in the movie, he shot that how many times do we shoot that?
Ten, twenty times?
I mean, and it was basically the same every time, and then we added it too.
That to me is a really that's such a great hook and to the story.
The hardest one is your life, which I won't I won't get into because it would give a lot of it away.
That was really that was the hardest part to watch in the whole movie.
Your the the thing that you go through personally after you end up saving this pathetic soul.
And uh which uh which w which makes it that much more interesting.
So I where do we go from here?
So it takes forever to actually do a movie.
I mean, we're not releasing this until next Thanksgiving.
But we're not the the movie, you know, the the cut that I had is now done.
Sam's had a look at what she wanted for the movie as well.
We've passed it on to the bells and whistles teams, which I call the guys who do the color correcting, do the visual effects, do the sound.
We still got ADR stuff to do.
We had you do a couple extra lines as well for the movie.
It will be done by probably February, late February.
But it is a it's it's a Christmas type of movie, so it won't come out till November.
And you see movies all the time being I mean, there's movies right now that are being coming for the fall of twenty seventeen.
Avatar, yeah.
They do a year in advance.
It's kind of the way it is now.
It's building this whole sort of grassroots approach to sort of let people be aware of it, be aware of it, be aware of it.
You have to, and especially in a small budget movie like this.
Right.
It's one of the things that we're doing.
What you define as small budget was a lot of my money.
No, it's a lot of money to me too.
But when you're looking at when you're looking at movies that shoot for a hundred, hundred and fifty, two hundred million dollars movie.
Avatars, I think, both the ones James Cameron's doing, I think three hundred million dollars a month.
Well, what's the budget just for for PA on that?
What's the budget on the eighty million for just forty million dollars?
Forty million for Prince and Africa.
And so what we need, we need the long runway to get this plane off the ground because we don't have all the money for the presentation.
That's why we're hitting the the faith-based world, and we're talking to Billy Graham.
We're talking to Joel Olsteens, we're talking to the Liberty Yeah, Liberty University.
Talk to Franklin Graham.
They're both very excited about it.
They're doing the app for the movie, which is fantastic.
It's fantastic.
I couldn't remember what the charity was when the Hollywood reporter guy.
Well, we're doing what's the food banks of America.
We're benefiting food banks in America.
Yeah, I didn't know how to say it right, so I said I have I'd get back to them.
Um, I think it's a great idea.
And there's well, we should mention there is an app, right?
Because people don't want to do that.
Well, it's kind of cool.
I kind of like it because it's really cool because it has a charity component to it that's real.
But to me, I think this this movie has more potential because I I just I go to movies all the time.
They don't move me.
They don't budge me.
I knew the script.
I was part of the production, I was there from the beginning, and it still moved me in a pretty deep way.
And I mean that's a and you want and you're just seeing a rough cut of it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because you know, here's the reality with these type of movies, as we said earlier, that a lot of movies don't move people.
Hollywood for the most part wants to go after the 30 and younger crowd, because they're the type that will go two, three, four, five times to see Star Wars.
And that's what they want.
But as my movies, what if God's not dead, Abel's Field movies like that that you liked, right?
What what that's there's an audience out there that wants movies that can touch you that that can teach our kids a moral lesson, a value lesson.
You know, New York and LA, everything between they call flyover states.
Well those flyover states have millions of millions of people.
Yeah, they're the ones that electricity Donald Trump.
Exactly.
I remember during at one point you asked me, can he win?
Can he win?
And I'm like, Yeah, of course he can win.
You know what you know what's amazing is that is that somebody sent me a map of America, showed in a model red against blue.
That three let's say there's three thousand counties in America.
Right.
He won basically two thousand nine hundred of them.
Yeah.
It's I mean, it's unbelievable.
It is the all red and except for your big cities.
Yeah.
But look at a city like this, as tiny an island as Manhattan is, it is eight million people.
Eighty percent of them voted for for Hillary.
That that's it.
You know, everyone made a big deal about the uh the popular vote.
And I'm like, well, if Donald Trump wanted to run up his popular vote totally, would have gone to California, New York, New Jersey, and Illinois.
Well, the other thing is they love to talk about the popular vote.
What they miss is that uh most of the country voted against Hillary.
Most of the country did not vote for Hillary.
I think uh yes, I that's a great way to look at it.
In terms of mass, yeah, it's all red.
Um I think Hollywood has made a mistake.
I think they've become very formulaic, very predictable.
I think they only want to make money, which is their main concern.
And I think what what really motivated me, and look, you got to admit I was a pretty quick sell.
Because I think the message, the movie was right.
If you presented me with something that didn't motivate me, I wouldn't have been interested.
Well, we brought in ISIS, too.
And we go after them, and you kind of like that.
Yeah, and this is a great there is a reference, there are references to ISIS in the movie.
But this is a great point, is you know, we didn't Trump tapped into an emotion, a feeling that's happening in the United States.
We have we tapped into that also.
I agree.
That's why that's why you responded to it as quickly as you did, and this is before Trump won the election.
So it's so th there is there's a zeitgeist that's happening now where people are fed up with the political correctness.
They want honesty, they want truth, they want answers.
And I think that that this movie also taps into that too.
Well, the movie, and by the way, you are far better Christians than me.
I love I'm the Christian that was like on the cross next to Jesus that said, I I'm the one that belongs here.
You know, you you don't.
I I'm the one that belongs to.
I don't know.
I think we all belong there, right?
Uh I know he does.
I don't know about you.
Certainly Shane and Braden don't.
You know, our our pastor a couple weeks ago brought up something pretty interesting.
And Octavia.
There you go.
My pastor brought up something interesting a couple weeks ago, and he said, you know, a lot of people were voting, saying just want to vote for the lesser two evils.
He said, Well, unless Jesus is running for office, they're all running for the lesser two evils.
You know, by the way, the pastor in the movie is uh Michael Frances.
Yeah.
And he's a former mob guy that was in solitary in real life in prison, had a Bible, and became a Christian and a pastor.
Yep.
In real life.
So it's a real it's a real nice movie.
And he's got a huge following across the country.
And then I gotta say one of Dion Warwick was amazing with the music, and I gotta say Travis Tritt was great too.
Did we say the title of the movie?
It's Let there be light.
Let there be light.
Yes.
Just get ready for that.
More and more stuff will coming out on it.
Yeah, Let There Be Light.
All right.
Hashtag LTBL.
We'll see you guys tonight on TV.
Yes, you will.
All right.
And by the way, good to see you guys were great.
Especially Octavia.
You're gonna yell out.
Thank you.
By the way, if your brothers ever bother you, tell me.
There you go.
I'm a brown belt now and I'm working towards my black belt, okay?
All right.
Thank you.
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