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Oct. 6, 2016 - Sean Hannity Show
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Pence Is Clear Winner - 10.5
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You know, you know that there's something going on when even the media has to admit that Mike Pence wiped the floor with, you know, the great interrupter last night who was Senator Tim Kaine.
Oh, did you get to a point in that debate and I was in a room full of people?
I wasn't in the room, the spin room where all the other media people are because every time I go there, you know what's hilarious?
I go into the spin room and wherever I go, every camera follows because they know we're going to get good interviews.
So they're like, following me.
Where's Hannity set up?
I literally get there and it looked like, you know, a major press conference for a presidential candidate because they want to siphon off my interviews because they can't get them themselves, which really is very, very entertaining.
And I don't think there's one person in that room that likes me.
He even said hi to the CNN reporter last night.
She's like, I don't want to say hi to you.
I said, how's Zucker doing?
You know me.
I just, I'm such a wise ass.
I can't help myself, but I have fun.
Great night last night.
Let me start with this.
What does every great executive do when they are running a business?
What is the single best thing an executive does in his business?
All right, play the Jeopardy theme because this is a trick question.
It's not that really tricky.
All right.
Now, Jason, do you know the answer to that?
Hire good people underneath him.
Ding, ding, ding.
Hire the right people.
For example, I have a team on the Sean Hannity radio show.
I have sweet baby James.
I have the cursing one, Linda.
We have Ethan, the new guy.
He's not that new, but he's the last one hired, so we refer to him as that.
We have Jason.
Jason has been with us now for years and years and years.
And we have Sweet Lauren, who takes your calls, and everybody says, oh, she's so nice.
He's so kind.
We allow Lauren to basically run the entire studio because we always have a service dog that she is training in studio with us.
And in the case of the one she's training now, it's going to be her dog because this dog is not going to pass the basic standards to be a service dog because a dog does not listen to Lauren ever and jumps on people, anybody that comes into the studio.
But Sweet Lauren will answer your calls.
Now, I never tell my staff on radio or TV on any given day what to do and how to do their job.
Now, I will write Linda in the course of a day saying, I want this tape.
Did you get that tape?
Did you get this guest on this given day?
But for the most part, probably my staff is relieved that they don't hear from me a whole lot till I walk into the studio every day.
And the same thing at TV.
They annoy me with the stupid meeting call every day.
I have never had with my radio staff or my television staff a team meeting.
You know why?
Because the boss hates meetings.
They are unproductive.
Now, if things come up at times that we've got to deal with, personality conflicts, quirks, this, that, I will deal with it in the moment, usually very impatiently and tell everybody to shut up, do their job, and leave me alone.
That's pretty much my attitude.
Linda, pretty accurate, right?
I'm not saying anything.
Now, my staff, they even do the little things for me.
Like, for example, if they think that I'm really, really tired from being on the road and I'm probably going to be a little impatient or cranky that day, I might walk into my office and there's a Philly cheesesteak without the bread and extra onions because that's their way of saying this will make him happy and make our day better rather than the usual Campbell soup that I eat every day, one can of soup, only 160 calories.
First meal I eat every day, and that's how I've been able to keep my trim and slim figure.
And then I don't eat till I get home at night.
But I don't, that's the first thing.
What did Mike Pence show last night?
That he was a phenomenal selection for Donald Trump.
What a good, great executive would do.
Hire the best people you can get.
Now, because I hire good people and I want to retain good people, and I have never really fired anybody in my life.
Now, stand by.
They fire themselves.
I will give everybody opportunity after opportunity.
You better fix it.
You better fix it.
And then there comes a point where you're out because you wouldn't listen.
They fire themselves.
And that's why, and you pay people well.
You let them reap some of the benefits and rewards of their hard work and you pay them well.
Now, I will tell you this, and I say this without exposing too much private information about my staff, which could probably end up in a lawsuit or something in the future.
My staff gets paid compared to other radio.
Most of them get paid more than on-air hosts in markets.
And you know what?
They're worth it.
Every penny.
See?
Now, I say this in light of everything that happened last night.
Now, the big question is, you know, because the media and even Chris Matthews, they will never declare Donald Trump a winner in the next two debates with Hillary Clinton.
They just won't.
But there is a model and paradigm that has emerged in terms of the strategy of what Clinton and Kaine are doing.
And there is an antidote, and that is what Governor Mike Pence did last night that I hope Donald Trump picks up on.
Because their strategy is not to talk about the economy.
They want to talk about Donald Trump's taxes.
They don't want to talk about how we can bring more jobs into America by creating three tax brackets instead of seven, by lowering the corporate rate to 15%.
Now, why is that a smart thing to do?
You lower the corporate rate that we have one of the lowest corporate tax rates in the industrialized world, short of, say, Ireland at 15%.
Well, how is that going to impact you?
Number one, corporations don't pay taxes.
They just pass that bill on to you, the consumer, for the goods and services they offer.
But number two, and more importantly, if you lower the top corporate tax rate to 15%, it will incentivize multinational corporations to bring their money to America.
And when they bring money to America, they can go to cities like Flint, Michigan and Detroit, Michigan, and they can go to Wisconsin and Ohio and Pennsylvania and the South.
And they can literally build their factories and their manufacturing centers here in America.
And maybe Ford won't be building their cars in Mexico.
And maybe Carrier won't be moving their company and their manufacturing centers down to Mexico because we have a sensible tax policy.
Corporations now, multinational corporations, Donald Trump is going to allow them.
There are trillions of dollars that they have parked overseas.
And because of the confiscatory corporate tax rate, will never, under any circumstances, bring that money back to the United States of America because they can't afford the financial hit that your government would put on them.
So Donald Trump is saying, bring your money back, low rate of 10%.
So let's say they bring trillions back because of the incentive of the low tax rate that Donald Trump will give them.
What are they going to do with the trillions?
They're going to park it in a bank?
No, because business is in the business to make money, and that means they're going to invest and take risk, and that means they're going to need workers to build their factories, build their manufacturing centers, and the 95 million Americans that are out of work will have an opportunity.
Add to that the same thing with energy.
We become energy independent.
Hillary wants coal miners out of work, coal companies out of business.
Donald Trump wants to expand coal mining, expand fracking, expand drilling.
What does that mean?
Well, for national security reasons, that means that we are not dependent on Hillary's friends, the Saudis that abuse women, gays, lesbians, Christians, and Jews for our oil, the lifeblood of our economy.
So we have the national security benefit, and then we also have the benefit of millions of high-paying jobs and careers for Americans.
This is a choice election.
Hillary doesn't want to talk about it.
Tim Kaine doesn't want to talk about it.
Their entire strategy is to dump on Trump and to say that the non-politician in the course of his life and career has said some stupid things, and maybe he's not as polished as Hillary and Tim Kaine.
So they come in with what I call the kitchen sink.
And the kitchen sink is, oh, Donald Trump didn't pay taxes.
Name me one person on the face of this earth, unless you are a really dumb, stupid liberal that wakes up in the morning and says, gee, I want to pay more in taxes.
I'm going to pay more than what the government says I owe them.
Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton don't do that.
They had a deduction last year.
They had a net loss of $700,000 in 2015.
Bill and Hillary Clinton, you want to talk about stretching the rules?
I don't know anybody besides them that ever has written off their old undies because they wanted to pay less in taxes.
Bill Clinton's disgusting boxes or briefs, they deducted a tax deduction.
I guess they gave it to Goodwill or the Salvation Army or whatever.
There's not one American that's not going to pay a penny more than what the government says their tax liability is.
And Donald Trump didn't make up the rules.
And by the way, Hillary says, well, who loses a billion dollars?
Well, Hillary, you lost $6 billion as Secretary of State, and the Inspector General criticized you for doing that.
So what can Trump take out of this debate last night into the next debate Sunday with Hillary?
The single most important thing he can learn is all they've got are their insults.
All they've got is the kitchen sink.
All they've got is Donald Trump didn't pay taxes.
Donald Trump said women are fat.
Donald Trump did this.
Donald Trump did that.
Hillary cannot talk about her economic plan of raising taxes.
She's not going to talk about the last eight years, the worst recovery since the 40s, lowest labor participation rate since the 70s, 12 million more Americans on food stamps, 8 million more in poverty, 51-year low in the home ownership rate.
First president that didn't reach 3% GDP growth in American history, one in five American families without a single member of the labor force and a doubling of our national debt.
She can't talk about it.
She can't talk about abandoning our troops in Benghazi and arguing whether or not Marines can go into Libya and if they go in, whether they can wear their uniforms.
And she had them changing in and out of their clothes four times.
She can't defend 600 separate requests before the attack that she never fulfilled for extra security.
She can't defend that she lied to the American people and told her daughter, the Libyan president, the Egyptian prime minister, the truth.
She can't run on her plan not to vet refugees and increase the refugee population by 550% and ignoring Clapper and Comey and Brennan and Steinbeck and McCall and General Allen.
They can't run on this.
She can't run on voting for a war in Iraq and sending brave men and women to fight, bleed, and die and win Mosul, Ramadi, Fallusha, to Creed and Baghdad and then politicize the war.
And then after 5,000 Americans are dead, pulling them out, creating a vacuum for ISIS, saying to the parents of dead Americans, oops, I'm sorry.
She can't do that.
She can't run on that.
She can't run on the red line she drew in the sand for Syria.
Also another vacuum for ISIS.
She can't run on the Russian reset.
If I hear one more time, yeah, Putin is a stronger leader than Obama.
Obama is like a wimp.
He's a total wimp pushover.
Putin at least has some courage and strength.
It's just a fact.
It's embarrassing, but it's a fact.
She can't run on open borders.
Americans know better.
You know, if you're out of the labor force, one of the 95 million Americans, do you really want to compete with the limited jobs available with illegal immigrants that are driving down wages?
No.
They can't run on China.
They can't run on Mexico.
They can't run on their education system and policies.
They can't run on their energy policies, their health care policies.
They can't run on the economy.
They can't run on any of these things.
There are deep and profound differences in 34 days.
You either want to cut taxes or raise taxes.
You want to incentivize companies to invest here or disincentivize them.
You want us energy independent or you want us dependent.
You want Obamacare repealed or you want to double down on stupid.
You want originalists on the Supreme Court that respect separation of power as co-equal branches of government, or you want liberal activists, radicals like Hillary.
You want a president that can say radical Islam or scared to death to say radical Islam.
You want to vet refugees or you want to increase unvetted refugees and put them in towns and cities and gamble with the lives of Americans.
You want a wall or you don't want a wall.
It's good for national security and it's good for Americans that are out of work.
You want to rebuild the military or you don't want to rebuild the military.
You want a president that if he's going to fight and send kids to Iraq, that you want him to win the war or you don't go in the first place.
You know, this is simple.
That's why I can't get over how dumb some people are.
My patience for stupidity is now at its, you know, I can't tell you who's going to win, but I can tell you if Donald Trump can absorb Hillary's, you know, her dropping the kitchen sink and saying, of course you want to talk about that because you can't talk about this.
Donald Trump will win the next two debates.
He's got to stay calm.
He's got to accept that's all she's got.
And he's got to talk about how he's going to change the economy, create jobs, how he's going to get our debt under control, make us energy independent, give us a new health care options, fix our educational system and build a wall, and say radical Islam and vet refugees.
Say that.
And I don't care what you say about me, Hillary.
It's not about something stupid I said because I didn't spend my entire life running for president and filtering every stupid thing that I might have said otherwise.
All right.
It's a good debate last night, didn't you think?
All right, 25 till the top of the hour.
Toll-free, our telephone number is 800-941.
Sean, you want to be a part of the program?
All right.
So we've got this Hurricane Matthew now that is, what, blasted Haiti, now headed towards the Bahamas.
And we have literally the Florida governor, Rick Scott, has called out the National Guard, also state of emergency, called for states like Georgia and North Carolina.
I believe South Carolina now has also called for that.
Here with the very latest in the preparation of all of this, he's our morning guy.
And he's also a good friend of mine for many, many years in the business at News Radio, 965WDBO.
He's also the news director.
He's the host of Orlando's Morning News, one of the top-rated shows in Orlando.
How are you, Joe Kelly?
What's going on, buddy?
Hey, Sean.
I hope you guys are enjoying the weather where you are.
Our thoughts and prayers.
This looks scary.
It's nice here today.
Yeah, I know.
I know, but it's looking pretty scary.
So let's talk about, it looks like it's going to be the southeastern part of the state that gets hit the hardest.
And certain models actually even have it going inland, although most models having it going up the east coast and then maybe out the Atlantic Ocean.
Yeah, so we, like I said, we got beautiful sunshine today.
We've got just a few clouds, and you're absolutely right.
We're kind of racing for impact.
Governor Rick Scott is having a briefing actually right now in Brevard County, and he is kind of giving us an update.
And it's skirting up the East Coast, and we don't know if it's going to make landfall.
I mean, it's not so much about where it's going to make landfall.
It's kind of if it's going to make landfall in Florida.
But I'll tell you this, for the first time since 2004, we have a hurricane warning in Orlando, Florida.
We've not had that since 2004.
Think about Walt Disney World Resort, Universal Orlando Resort, SeaWorld.
I mean, all of these resorts today are filled full of thousands of tourists and people who came here to enjoy our weather.
And now they're getting not evacuation notices, not here not yet, but at our coast, on the beaches, our beautiful beaches are getting evacuation orders now.
And the highways are absolutely slammed.
The gas stations are slammed.
The convenience stores are slammed.
But the good news is we've got time.
When do we expect this is actually going to hit Florida?
We're going to start getting rain tomorrow day, tomorrow morning.
We'll get some of the outer bands of rain.
The big area of concern is going to be tomorrow sunset to Friday sunset.
Yeah.
Well, look, the only thing I want to say, you know, Florida is my second home, Joe, and we've been friends for many years.
Number one, my thoughts and prayers are with all our friends in Florida.
Number two, I would urge people.
I know there are some of my conservative brethren that think they're going to ride out everything.
And I know people, some won't want to leave their homes.
If it's an evacuation order, especially if you're very coastal, you better listen to what they're saying because you'd rather be safe than sorry.
And Sean, I'll tell you the biggest concern is going to be power outages.
Because if these gusty, strong winds come through and they knock down these old beautiful oak trees and some of these palm trees and stuff onto the power line, they're going to lose power.
Focus on the beaches first where the damage is worse.
And we could have two, three, four, five days, two, three weeks without power.
I have no doubt that that's all a possibility.
I've always urged people to prepare for a worst case scenario.
These are one of the things I've always prepared for.
I always have extra food.
I have water.
I have batteries and radios.
And I also have a big generator I bought.
I mean, you can even get a small generator, at least keeps your refrigerator and some of the lights on.
You have something.
You won't be able to get one today.
No, you're not going to get one today.
It's a little late.
You have to plan ahead.
You have to plan.
Don't wait.
You might be able to.
You never know.
There might be one guy that's smart and selling it for a good price.
On the street corner somewhere.
Yeah, there might be one there somewhere.
All right, listen, we're going to stay, we're going to follow the story.
It's Wednesday.
We expect when?
So tomorrow the rain begins in the afternoon.
Oh, yeah, we'll get it by lunchtime tomorrow.
Okay, and then when do we expect to have an answer whether or not this makes landfall or not?
Tomorrow, this time, at the beginning of your show, tomorrow, we'll know a real clear idea of what we can expect.
All right.
To all our friends in Florida, please, please, please pay attention.
All right.
Thank you, Joe.
Thank you, Sean.
All right, man.
Good to talk to you.
800-941, Sean.
You know, one of the funny things, you know, you want to know how absolutely sure I am that Mike Pence had a grand slam last night because Politico is even now saying, even though Pence won, this debate doesn't matter.
Yeah, well, you know, it does matter because what does a good executive do?
Good executive hires very, very good people.
This show has been a long-term success.
This is now my 30th year in radio.
And in the beginning, I did it all on my own, even running the board on my own.
But as the show and information is at the speed of light, you know, we've had to keep up with the times.
And to keep up with the times, I need good people around me.
I don't have time for the nonsense.
I'm on the air four hours a day, so I have the best people.
And if you make good choices with the people you hire, it makes everybody's life easier.
Well, it also says something about Hillary picking Tim Kaine.
You know, Tim Kaine had a $2 billion deficit when he left as governor of Virginia.
Tim Kaine is doing just what Hillary wants to do: raise taxes.
He's a tax and spend liberal.
Tim Kaine on every issue is wrong.
Mike Pence, he has a $2 billion surplus.
Mike Pence cut his unemployment numbers in half in the state of Indiana.
Mike Pence, by every measure, is so much more successful.
Anyway, something that I think you need to think about: who else did Hillary hire over the course of her life?
You know, I got to give Hillary some credit.
She has created jobs: jobs in the FBI, jobs for the Department of Justice.
She really helps the legal profession out her entire career, and she needs one defense attorney after another.
So she's hired, she's helped out lawyers an awful lot in terms of job creation.
Maybe it's like a career to defend the Clintons, a full-time job.
So Tim Kaine didn't actually just lose.
He was, oh, just, it was horrible.
It was so unwatchable.
But you know what the big lesson is?
Because Donald Trump's a counterpuncher.
I consider myself a bit of a counterpuncher, so I understand his instincts to always want to fight back.
But there are times, Linda, how many times have I said to you, there's only so many fights I can have at once?
And I said, I just can't deal with that fight now.
And I would just say, when Hillary predictably drops the kitchen sink and regurgitates like a good little robot like Tim Kaine was last night, everything that Donald Trump said, I have memorized it.
I will put out my list again and again and again and again.
I go back to my list again and again and again and again.
I go back to my list again.
If you're looking for a robot as your president, then you found your team.
They do a really good job of memorizing those lines, don't they?
They don't want to talk about the economy.
They don't want to talk about her foreign policy failures.
They don't want to talk about her lack of ethics, you know, using bleach bit to wipe their server clean.
You mean like with a cloth?
You mean like with a cloth ad?
No, with bleach bit, deleting 33,000 emails that probably would have put her in prison that probably Vladimir Putin, the Chinese, and the Iranians have.
Did you wipe this earth?
What, like with a cloth or something?
With like a cloth and you mean like with a cloth?
Seriously?
No, bleach bit.
Yeah.
It's funny.
The next debate is Sunday.
We'll be in St. Louis for that debate.
And let's see, the next batch of anti-Trump moderators are going to be Anderson Cooper and Martha Raditz.
And these two Trump bashers are so anxious to get credit for taking him down that they're actually fighting, according to the New York Post, to see who gets to ask the most hostile questions of Donald Trump.
Page six reports in the New York Post like the drama won't just be between Hillary and Donald Trump at the next matchup, at the next presidential debate.
Anderson Cooper, who just signed a new long-term deal with CNN and ABC's Martha Raditz, they're moderating the town hall debate together, and the rival network anchors are already feuding over who gets to grill the candidates on the harder topics.
Sources describe the meetings among ABC and CNN producers.
The on-air talent network brass ahead of the debate on Sunday is acrimonious at best.
Then another adding: there won't be just two presidential egos in the room at the next debate.
There'll be four.
One TV insider said getting the two networks together has been a challenge.
They're feuding over petty things such as who gets what particular topic.
I can see that this is going to be fun.
No, Donald Trump doesn't need to answer any of their questions.
Not one.
Just talk about what matters.
Talk about the economy, how bad it is, and what he's going to do to fix it.
Talk about energy, how he's going to make us energy independent.
Talk about how we need a new system because Obamacare has failed.
Talk about how lowering corporate taxes creates jobs and brings money to build factories and manufacturing centers.
You know, talk about the millions of jobs in the energy industry and the benefits to Homeland Security, the benefits of saying radical Islam, the benefits of not gambling with your life by vetting refugees, the benefits of building a border wall both for national security and the economy, not having the few Americans, the millions of Americans out of work competing for jobs and driving down wages, the benefits of letting states and municipalities choose what's best for your kids' education.
You know, look at Hillary wants a 550% increase in refugees.
Let's see.
The Mideast is in flames.
The economy is in the dumpster.
The national debt's growing through the roof.
Obamacare is collapsing.
And the VA suicide hotline rings just about every day, every hour of every day, goes right to voicemail.
But we found one good thing that Obama really did well.
He's a whiz at flooding American towns and cities with refugees from terrorist countries.
Administration now has admitted a total of 12,587 Syrian refugees.
I thought it was only going to be 10,000 during the just-ended fiscal year, exceeding the president's target by 2,587.
Great.
He's really good at something.
Oh, Michelle Obama.
If you can't keep your own house together, how can you run the White House?
She's saying Hillary is honest and plays by the rules.
Yeah, really.
I think the Obamas are now looking at this for what it really is, and that is a referendum on their presidency, which has been God-awful.
There's something else that we've got to pay attention to here, and it's happening right under our noses.
There are two things that concern me going into the home stretch of this campaign.
I was hoping the Republicans had fixed this and corrected this by now.
Now, the first problem was the decision to accept the Presidential Debate Commission selection of debate moderators.
Dumb idea.
We saw on the issue of stop and frisk, the issue of the economy, the issue of Iraq, the issue of birtherism that clearly Lester Holt was on Hillary's side.
By the way, I don't even know who this woman was last night.
Never heard of her before.
It was so bad and so biased.
I don't even have to really comment on it.
She only wanted to interrupt Pence.
Didn't do anything to stop the 72 separate interruptions of Senator Kaine.
There's not one person I know that didn't tell me, write me, call me, tweet out, I want to take a brick and throw it through my television because I can't take his interrupting anymore.
Anyway, so the other issue, you know, I mean, they're creating a possible Candy Crowley fiasco.
But anyway, I don't know whose fault that was, but we have a LifeZet news report today.
At least 86 non-citizens have been registered voters in Philadelphia since 2013.
And almost half of those even voted in at least one recent election, according to a legal group that sued to get voter registration records.
I got an attorney with the Public Interest Legal Foundation noting that Philly knows about these 86 illegal voters only because officials receive specific requests in almost every case from the voters themselves to remove their names from the rolls.
He said there's no way to know how many non-citizens might be registered to vote in Philadelphia, let alone the rest of the politically crucial state of Pennsylvania.
Just the tip of the iceberg?
Who knows how many are on and don't ask to be taken off?
We had another report yesterday that the same thing is happening in Indiana.
Indianapolis Star reports that Indiana State Police investigators are searching voter registration agency on Indianapolis's north side as they look into a voter fraud case that spans nine counties.
The investigation began in late August.
Police learned of the filing of fraudulent voter registration forms in Marion and Hendricks counties.
The investigation has expanded from Marion and Hendricks counties to include Allen, Delaware, Hamilton, Hancock, Johnson, Lake, and Madison counties, according to a statement from Indiana State Police.
Police said the number involved, the number of counties involved, leads investigators to believe that the number of fraudulent records might be in the hundreds or more.
Over at the New York, I'm sorry, over at the Washington Times, Tammy Bruce is now beginning to connect the dots.
And she says liberal think tanks, various media talking heads, and Democratic leadership have all worked for years to convince the American people that voter fraud doesn't exist while then working feverishly to thwart state-based efforts to secure the electoral system with voter identification laws.
Voter fraud is real, however, and is happening now as we prepare to vote in the most important presidential election of our lives.
With early voting underway in many U.S. states for the presidential election, a local television station in Colorado is reporting that at least 78 dead people are registered to vote in that critical swing state.
And they're not just passively listed.
Breitbart reports one of the biggest voter fraud cases the station found was through the voting record of Sarah Sosa of Colorado Springs.
She died in October of 2009, but ballots were cast in her name in 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013.
Well, isn't that great?
New York State Attorney General has found the Clinton Foundation broke the law.
Well, that's getting pretty interesting.
This guy hates Donald Trump.
So we'll find out more about that in the days to come.
Whether it was in Ukraine or now, heavy-handed approach.
You both have said Vladimir Putin is a very important thing.
I'm going to go to Russia in just a moment.
But I do want to get back to the midshipper.
Elena, thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you, Senator Allen.
You guys have praised Vladimir Putin as a great leader.
I'm not going to, Senator.
We do have that coming up here.
Okay, now I can wait.
Had a private server to keep that pay-to-play process, which Hillary Clinton and Senator King want to continue have run this economy into a ditch.
We're in the slowest recovery since the Great Depression.
1,500.
There are millions more people living in poverty today than the day that Barack Obama, with Hillary Clinton at his side, improved dramatically between 2014 and 2015.
Honestly, Senator, you can roll out the numbers.
And the answer to this economy is not more taxes.
But it's not a way tax relief to the folks at the top.
I am interested in hearing whether he'll defend his running mates not releasing taxes.
Absolutely, I will.
That actually is designed to encourage entrepreneurship.
But why won't he release this tax return?
Well, we're answering the question about the business thing.
I do want to come back to that.
His tax returns showed he went through a very difficult time, but he used the tax code just the way it's supposed to be used, and he did it brilliantly.
How do you freeze it?
You have it in the runway because he's created a business that's worth billions of dollars to how do you know that?
Donald Trump has created tens of thousands of jobs, and he's paid payrolls $150 billion to the rail weapons program without firing a shot.
You didn't stop the nuclear weapons.
Yes, we did.
Even the Israeli military says, let's make sure we're putting the safety and security of the American people first instead of Hillary Clinton expanding the serial.
Or instead of him violating the Constitution, by blocking people based on their national origin rather than whether they're dangerous.
That's absolutely false.
That's what the Seventh Circuit decided just.
Here's the difference.
We have different views on refugee issues.
Just trying to keep up with the insult-driven campaign on the other side of the country.
You know what?
I'm just saying facts about your running mate.
Yeah, and I know you can't defend it.
I'm happy to defend him, Senator.
Don't put words in my mouth that I'm not defending him.
You're not.
I'm happy to defend him.
Most of what you said is completely false.
And the American people know that.
This is the same thing.
I'll run through this list of things.
This isn't the old days for you to say stuff and believe it.
I have to tell you, I was listening to the avalanche of insults coming out of Senator Kaine a minute ago.
These were Donald.
Hold on.
It's my time, Senator.
It is.
Thanks.
I forgive you.
All right.
There's part of what happened and what went on last night.
Didn't work for the interrupter, which is Senator Tim Kaine, as we continue our coverage of last night's VP debate.
Joining us now are pollsters, John McLaughlin.
He is the pollster founder of McLaughlin and Associates, Doug Shoan, author, political analyst, Fox News.
And the one thing, Doug, I will say, you are right is they're not going to stop.
This whole kitchen sink thing is going to go on and on and on.
But I think Mike Pence basically showed how to defeat it last night.
And I think he was incredibly brilliant at just like dismissing the list, the robotic memorized list about Donald Trump.
And I think the pivot can be even stronger than that if you say, let me tell you what you ought to be talking about and then go into how we need to change for the economy and national security, which is also another point you've been making.
Sean, if we'd had a little more time last night, what I would have said is Donald Trump should be the prime beneficiary of the approach that Governor Pence took last night.
He responded to most, not all, of Tim Kaine's attacks.
They didn't stop from Kaine.
He looked unpresidential and rude.
But Pence, even when he was not being substantively responsive, appeared to me to be presidential, cool, and in command.
That's what Donald Trump has to do on Sunday night in the town hall debate if he's to deal with the abuse that's going to come from Secretary Clinton.
It's going to be the same thing.
Doug, you know the Clintons better than anybody.
It's going to be the same list, correct?
Yes.
Yeah.
It's not going to change.
And it's not going to change in debate, and it's not going to change in debate four either.
No, why should it from their point of view?
Their lead went up after the first debate.
They're in pretty good shape.
It's not secure, but it's a better position than the first debate for the Clintons.
They're going to keep going.
You know, I hate to always agree with Doug on this debate analysis, but I think Doug is dead on John McLaughlin.
Thoughts?
Well, I think, you know, we've had the great debater, the great orator.
You hit the nail on the head.
Last night we had the great interrupter.
And it was really what you're seeing is the Clinton campaign focuses on control.
They come in with a strategy where they want to control the whole agenda and make things happen their way.
And Tim Cain was on a mission that the Clinton strategists concocted.
Even the spin machine, after it was over, they were saying lines like, oh, Trump helped himself, but not Trump, et cetera.
But they're trying a strategy that I think last night we saw start to backfire, where they're going over the edge, they're going overboard, where their insults and their negativity is not about what people are feeling.
And as Doug has been saying for weeks on this, and we've been saying this is about change, and change that affects everybody's lives in a positive sense, where the economy is flat as a pancake.
We want economic growth.
How are we going to do it?
And certainly not by raising taxes.
Security, we've got problems at the borders.
We've got terrorists at home.
We've got ISIS winning abroad.
You know, how are we going to fix that?
Trump's been talking about things.
And there's also a third dimension in this that you've got the people outside the beltway now directing the controlled election and they've used Trump as their messenger.
And you can see that the Clinton people, again, really negative that, you know, her line about the deplorables, that's the way they view the electorate.
That's the way they view the world.
And that negativity, I think they're going overboard where, like Rasmussen today has a poll coming back, has a poll out where Trump's back ahead 42-41 in the four-way race.
You're seeing signs that, okay, this Clinton spin machine won after the first debate.
If Donald Trump takes Doug's advice, and as you're directing here, where you're talking about, if he takes that advice and implements that strategy, he'll go back ahead in the polls because she's still locked in the low 40s.
I think I agree with you.
I don't think there's any room for her to grow at this point.
I think she's maxed out.
I don't think Americans, if she comes out and does the same thing as Doug and I, I think, agree on here, that she can't change what she's going to do.
She is who she is at this point.
And I have argued from the beginning, she can't argue on the merits of the economy.
The economy's in the crapper.
They can't argue about her foreign policy because then Benghazi, ISIS, the emergence of ISIS, Iraq, and Syria and Morsi and the Russian reset, that all comes up.
That doesn't help her.
They can't run on character issues except she wants to just tear down and create the image in the public's mind that Donald Trump doesn't have the temperament to be president, and that's their only strategy, end of sentence, and they will continue with the list.
Sean, absolutely correct.
But as you remember your conversation last night with Jesse Jackson, when you presented your statistics.
You were watching that.
Yeah.
Statistics on the economy.
The Reverend Jackson, who's one of the more loquacious speakers in the Democratic Party, did he have any response at all to stagnation and the need for change?
None at all.
And the Clintons don't have any great response to the problems you cite.
And frankly, she has no growth potential.
But you know who knows that better than anyone, Sean?
The Secretary of State.
She knows it.
She's a very shrewd person.
And her position, contrary to Bill, Bill would go to the center.
You heard that on affordable care.
He'd move to the center, not the secretary.
She is going to tack left and hit hard.
You know, I just tacked left, hit hard.
That's it.
I just think at this point, if you break it down to its most fundamental, the most fundamental elements of what a debate should be about and what strategy ought to be about, I kind of agree with you.
I think if I were advising Hillary Clinton, I'd do the same thing that they're doing.
But if I'm advising Donald Trump, I would have him expecting all of that and have a response that doesn't respond to them and a response that talks about the substance.
And the pivot is the substance.
The pivot is things are horrible.
I'm going to fix it this way.
Foreign policy is horrible.
I'm going to fix it this way.
I mean, in other words, that's the need for change that you talk about, and that's the need for America's on the wrong path.
Let me, and John, I apologize.
Let me take you inside the Clinton camp, where Donald Trump does it his own way.
The Clintons are very disciplined, they're very focused, and they understand completely what we're saying.
And until the Trump campaign is able to deal with the attacks, they are going to keep going.
I can assure you that they will.
It's almost like a football team, you know, three yards in a cloud of dust, four downs, first downs, they keep going.
That's what the Secretary is going to do.
That's what she's about, Sean.
You and John are completely right.
The real question in my mind is: can Donald Trump learn from Mike and learn from this conversation and what goes on every night on your TV show and change his approach?
If he can, he has a chance to, as John said, go to dead even or ahead.
If he doesn't, the Secretary will maintain a small but comfortable leap.
John McLaughlin, do you agree with that?
Absolutely.
And what Trump has to do on Sunday night is give hope to the voters and re-engage.
You know, there's 93 million voters that didn't vote in 2012 that were eligible to vote because they were defeated.
Trump has to give them hope that things in their lives can get better.
So when Hillary Clinton hits him, oh, you didn't pay your taxes, he should turn around and say, you know, the fact of the matter is I was on the edge of bankruptcy, and I brought that company back, and we created tens of thousands of jobs.
And he's in the 400 this week.
I mean, that's a story about hope and about rebuilding.
And that's what his whole message has been about, about making America better.
That's the art of the comeback.
I mean, that's your answer.
The art of the comeback right there.
Absolutely.
But that kind of hope that he exemplifies is what the average person who's making $60,000 or less a year, maybe $30,000, $40,000, they're living one paycheck away from disaster.
If they miss a paycheck or have a car repair or something, it's not good.
Well, he can get the economy growing again.
He can get them better jobs.
He can even make us feel safe at home by strengthening our military.
That's what they want to hear.
Instead, Hillary Clinton wants to make this about Trump and continue the insults, and he's got to do what Penn State is.
But you know, it's interesting.
As often, John, as the great interrupter, Kane, who wouldn't show, I mean, everybody I know wanted to throw a brick at their television last night because it was so annoying, his interruptions.
But he dropped his list 100 times.
We now heard the list.
And for people to just walk away from that debate saying they don't care about the list, I think Trump needs to go in and just dismiss the list and not answer a single question she says and talk about how we're failing in the economy.
We're failing on the world stage.
And this is how I'll fix it.
There's your change.
There's your hope.
And there's your discipline.
All of the things that all three of us seem to think and agree on that he needs in this next debate.
Right.
The debate is not about Donald Trump.
It's about the 80 million, 90 million people that will be watching that debate.
It's about what their hopes and aspirations are for the future of this country.
You know, and look at all the things, for example.
The judge won't release drafts of Hillary Clinton's Whitewater indictment.
You have the Obama Department of Justice dropping charges against an arms broker for Libyan weapons so Hillary doesn't get caught up in that mess.
You've got, you know, bill going rogue, as you mentioned.
You've got a former Clinton Foundation employees.
They're giving negative reviews of their work environment.
And on top of that, if you start fact-checking the debate, it didn't come out good for Tim Kaine last night either.
It's like everything that they're saying just is not true.
I mean, when you look at it, you know, for example, the terror threat has not decreased.
The Clinton Foundation did not rank higher than the American Red Cross.
Trump did not say Israel must pay big league or we won't work with them.
The Iranian deal does not eliminate the nuclear program.
I mean, these are all instances where, you know, Trump could follow up and say, you keep saying it, but it's not true.
You know, Trump vowed to deport criminal aliens on day one.
Not true either.
I mean, it's almost like I think what Clinton and Kaine are trying to do is muddy the waters, confuse everybody.
Absolutely, because it's all about the average person knows with Clinton, you've had 25 years of corruption in the public eye, in the public arena that the country's seen.
And a vote for Clinton continues that corruption.
And the bad part about that corruption is it affects us in our daily lives.
The rule of law doesn't matter whether it's on the economy, whether it's trade deals, whether it's their misuse of the FBI, their abuse of the IRS.
I mean, it's affecting the average person.
So that kind of corruption, when people, you know, if Trump can send a message, it's like, we can end that corruption.
We can end that corruption on November 8th by casting a vote for change.
And that's where.
Well, anyway, we're out of time.
All right, John.
Thank you, buddy.
All the best.
Glad I didn't invite your brother.
He wouldn't have shown up until about now anyway.
Keep up the great work.
Jim's probably listening.
All right.
If somebody would call up Sean Hannity.
All right, 20.
That is funny.
25 now till the top of the hour.
800-941 Sean is our toll-free telephone number.
By the way, isn't the coverage of me every four years great?
We were talking about this the other day, me and Linda.
It's like every four years, it gets to this fever pitch about my role at Fox, the things that I do.
Gee, shocking.
Hannity's going all in for the more conservative candidate.
I was pretty shocked with Donald Trump said your name right now.
I was a little shocked too.
I mean, my phone was like, are you lost?
Yeah, I know.
What's happening?
It's hilarious.
It is pretty funny.
But, you know, this election is still winnable.
We're 34 days out, and it's very, very fluid and very winnable.
And I really enjoyed last night's debate.
I don't want to give away a strategy that I think ought to be employed.
And you're going to say, Hannity, you're supposed to share it with us.
Yeah, I am.
And I will soon.
Let's go to Corey and O'Calla is in Florida next on the Sean Hannity show.
What's going on?
Hey, thank you for taking my call.
I just want to say Pence did an amazing job last night.
If somebody was on the fence, watching the way Kane acted, his demeanor, the interruptions, I think Pence was interrupted something like 72 times.
God forbid something happen to one of the presidential candidates, whoever is elected.
Who would you really want to stand up there and be the next president?
And to me, that really showed last night his calm, cool, collected professional.
Pinks did an amazing job.
You know what was probably one of the most underreported moments in the campaign was towards the end of the debate last night.
It was one of the underreported ones.
And it's when he said, yeah, he said that, but he's like not a seasoned hack politician like you and Hillary.
So, yeah, he's going to misspeak a little bit.
But the fundamentals of what we're proposing is going to save the country.
I mean, that is so deep and so profound.
Look, if you want robots whose only qualification to them seems to be that they can memorize lines written by somebody else, then I guess Hillary and Tim Kaine is your person.
That's your ticket.
If you want people that are authentic but have the right principles and the right ideas on recognizing radical Islam, on not raising taxes and destroying the economy and pushing more businesses out of the country that would eliminate Obamacare.
And, you know, it's just what do you want?
There's a choice, choice, choice election.
Anyway, so I think it's pretty simple.
All right, man, thank you.
Linda, Michigan, next Sean Hannity show.
Linda's a liberal.
What's up, Linda?
By the way, how could you be a liberal in Michigan after seeing what liberals did to your state?
They devastated it.
They destroyed Detroit, one of America's great cities.
They now have homes up for sale for a buck.
They have neighborhoods that are going to be bulldozed to consolidate services that they can no longer afford to give taxpayers.
How could you possibly support this?
Well, the people that destroyed the middle class in Michigan were Republicans.
They destroyed the Republican.
Well, you know what?
There is a little truth to that.
The bad trade deals.
You know, when we push companies out of the country, like, for example, Ford going to Mexico to build all their small cars, all of them should be, you know, every alarm bell in the country ought to be going off because those are jobs that would be in Flint.
Those are jobs that should be in Detroit.
Those are jobs that should be in Ohio.
Those are jobs that could be, you know, in the South, in Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, and other places.
You know, and when Trump says, you know, it used to be that we made cars in Flint and you had bad water in Mexico, and now they're making cars in Mexico and you got bad water in Flint, it says a lot.
Well, and as far as speaking about Mr. Trump as a conservative, like you just did a couple of minutes ago, or the other caller said, who would you want to be president of the United States?
When did conservatism become, you know, talking about sex tapes from women that were the former Miss Universe in the middle of the night tweeting?
I mean, when did that become a conservative value wanting to date your daughter?
I do.
You know what?
That is ridiculous.
That's a total mischaracterization.
He said, isn't my daughter beautiful?
Oh, she's the type of girl that any guy would want to date because she's so poised and beautiful and lovely.
And why your mind is going there is bizarre to me.
I don't get it.
Not even the liberal media has touched that.
But if Hillary wants to bring up a war on women, I do think it's legitimate that she referred to Monica as a narcissistic loony tune and wanted to crucify Jennifer Flowers.
She and her cohorts and all the Clinton Kool-Aid drinkers went out there and smeared, besmirched, slandered, and destroyed every woman that dared tell the truth about Bill.
I think that's a big issue.
I think Hillary taking millions and millions from Sharia practicing countries and not criticizing their abuse of women and their killing of gays and lesbians and persecution of Christian and Jews speaks volumes about her.
So I think they're all legitimate issues.
So let's look at it from every point of view.
Linda, go ahead.
You keep voting Democrat.
And I guess what happened to Flint and what happened to Detroit will just happen to the rest of the country.
Great.
That's a wonderful plan.
Terry in Jacksonville, Florida, WOKV.
How are you?
I'm great.
I appreciate you letting me on the show.
I just wanted to talk about the so-called party elites, the people who think they own the Republican Party, like Mr. Romney and Mr. Graham, Mr. McCain, and most of the Bush family, that any of these people and others who refuse to support the presidential nominee of their party should be honorable enough to resign from the party.
Being a member of the party has some meaning, and part of that meaning is that you support the leader of your party, and definitely its presidential candidate.
These people think they own the party that belongs to them.
They're willing to do whatever they can to ensure that they control the party, including several people.
Listen, the Republican Party better change.
And by changing, I mean the following: they have lost all of the Reagan coalition, blue dog Democrats, hardworking blue-collar Democrats in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, the backbone of this country.
And they've lost them because of bad trading, bad trade deals.
They've lost them because they've gone in with big, big business and corporations to get cheap labor.
And they have not looked out for the hardworking men and women of this country that have been suffering.
That's why we have the lowest labor participation rate.
That's why it's the lowest home ownership rate in 51 years.
That's why it's the worst recovery since the 40s.
These people are suffering and have been suffering.
There is a way to revitalize the economy.
The best thing, two best things Trump will do for the economy: three best things.
Number one, the corporate tax rate to 15% will incentivize multinational corporations to move here so that they will build their factories and their manufacturing centers here.
The second thing is energy independence, millions of high-paying jobs and the added bonus of not being dependent on foreign sources of oil.
And the third thing is he's going to allow multinational corporations that we know have trillions and trillions parked in foreign countries because they can't bring their money back here because of the high tax rates.
He's going to give them a 10% rate and incentivize them to build their businesses here.
And Republicans better get the message that that's key.
And it's very Reagan-esque on top of everything else.
All right, let's go to John is in the key swing state of Ohio.
What's up, John?
How are you?
Hey, Sean, it's a pleasure talking to you.
Yes, sir.
It's a pleasure to talk to you.
What's going on?
I thought the debate was pretty lopsided.
I thought Pence was cool, composed, and very informed.
And Kane was rude, excitable, and just spewed talking points.
But I was wondering if I could take 15 seconds to address the tax issue.
Well, let me ask you one.
I agree about Pence.
Let me say one thing about Pence and Trump.
What do great executives do?
What's the first prerequisite do you think to being a great executive?
What do you think it is?
Hire great people.
Hire great people.
Do you want to know why my career has been as successful as it has been?
I'm going to tell you a little secret.
I have, I'm looking at five great people in front of me right now.
And that's sweet baby James.
That's Linda.
That's Lauren.
That's Jason, and that's Ethan.
Now, these people, I don't ever tell them anything to do.
I don't tell, do I ever give, do I ever basically tell you, occasionally I say, no, you're off topic.
Occasionally, because she has her pet peeve topics that she wants me to do every single minute of every day.
Linda.
But for the most part, do you hear from me during the day about your job?
No.
Jason, do you hear from me about your job?
Nope.
Ethan, do you ever hear from me how to do your job every day?
Well, if you wake up.
Lauren, do you hear from me?
He was busy doing his job.
Yeah.
Lauren, do you ever hear from me?
No, you just tell me how amazing I am all the time.
Actually, I really pretty much do.
Except for the dog that you're going to inherit because that dog's not making it.
We always have a dog in the studio, one of the service dogs.
This one's true.
So the point is, is Donald Trump hired Mike Pence, his first executive decision, if you will, as president.
What a great decision.
I didn't know Mike Pence as well as I know him now.
I was kind of leaning towards Newt myself because I know how smart Newt is.
I think Pence was a great choice, a brilliant choice.
Pence was great.
Could I just make one comment on the tax issue?
Yes, sir.
I think Trump should say, my company is my family.
My buildings have my name on them.
I employ thousands of people and I have them to take care of.
What I did was totally lawful and under the tax codes of the United States, I protected my business, my family, and jobs.
I brought my business, my family back to a healthy, vibrant business.
When I become president of this great nation, all of you, America, will be my family.
And I'll bring this great country, my new family, back, just like I brought my other family back.
I'll bring back jobs, world respect, a strong military, and a vibrant economy like no one has ever seen before.
I think that's really, listen, I think he's saying that, but he's not the seasoned politician.
He's not going to say it as purely as we want him to say things.
He's just not.
Right.
Anyway, I appreciate your call, John.
We'll pass that on.
800-941-Sean.
Kimberly in the other swing state of Florida.
Very important in Florida.
What's going on, Kimberly?
And by the way, by the way, I want you to know we're watching the storm like you all are.
I know that Governor Rick Scott called out the National Guard.
Florida, you know, is my second home.
And our thoughts and prayers are with all our friends.
Even I'm on the West Coast, and it looks like it's going to pound the East Coast.
I mean, pound it.
It's a little scary right now for everybody.
So hang in there.
Everybody be patient.
If they say get out, get the hell out as soon as they say.
Thank you, Sean.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
What's going on?
Listen, I wanted to say thanks for taking my call.
And I wanted to ask you, please, take Donald and do those town hall meetings because you are so good and he's so relaxed and you get points out.
And I think you get more viewers to get more substance than at these darn debates where it's a tax attack, tax pack attack.
It's ridiculous.
Well, you're very kind to say so.
Look, we're wrapping up this political season in 34 days.
And I'm very, I'm cautiously optimistic, but I can't say who's going to win.
I don't know.
I know that there's a lot at stake for the country, Kimberly.
And I'm just hoping that people do not double down on stupid, because if we do, you're going to get the same predictable failure.
And we don't need that kind of failure.
No, if you would kick him out and town hall and he'd staff that darn Twitter, I think we'd be good.
His ratings went up so high with you.
Well, he really did very well, and I would agree with you.
And, you know, this is also, too, having interviewed him a lot, I know his speech patterns.
I know how his mind works.
And I also know, having been around him, how sincere he is about wanting to do all the things that he's saying.
You know, I've said to all those never-Trumper people, I say, look, you own Hillary.
You own Hillary.
You own her Supreme Court justices.
You own her unvetted refugees.
You own Obamacare if it stays in place or a single-payer system.
You own what illegal immigrants do.
You own our failed top-down educational system that won't be sent back to the states.
You own our dependence on foreign oil.
I'll accept this.
If Trump doesn't build the wall, doesn't advance towards energy independence, if he doesn't lower the corporate tax to 15%, if he doesn't allow repatriated money back in, if he doesn't say radical Islam like he says he will, you know, if he doesn't repeal Obamacare, then I'll take the blame because I believed him.
You have every right to blame me and say, Hannity, you believed him.
Why did you believe him?
I'll take that.
I'll own that.
I'll own my vote here.
I am pulling the lever enthusiastically for Donald Trump.
The state of Indiana, we've cut unemployment in half, unemployment doubled when he was governor.
But I think he's a very fitting running mate for Hillary Clinton.
Because in the wake of a season where American families are struggling in this economy under the weight of higher taxes and Obamacare and the war on coal and the stifling avalanche of regulation coming out of this administration, Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine want more of the same.
It really is remarkable that they actually are advocating a trillion dollars in tax increases, which I get that.
You tried to raise taxes here in Virginia and were unsuccessful.
But a trillion dollars in tax increases, more regulation, more of the same war on coal, and more of Obamacare that now even former President Bill Clinton calls Obamacare a crazy plan.
But Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine want to build on Obamacare.
They want to expand it into a single-payer program.
And for all the world, Hillary Clinton just thinks Obamacare is a good start.
Look, Donald Trump and I have a plan to get this economy moving again, just the way that it worked in the 1980s, just the way it worked in the 1960s.
And that is by lowering taxes across the board for working families, small businesses, and family farms, ending the war on coal that is hurting jobs and hurting this economy, even here in Virginia, repealing Obamacare, lockstock, and barrel, and repealing all of the executive orders that Barack Obama has signed that are stifling economic growth in this economy.
We can get America moving again, put on top of that the kind of trade deals that'll put the American worker first, and you've got a prescription for real growth.
And when you get the economy growing, Elaine, that's when you can deal with the national debt.
Elaine, on the economy, there's a fundamental choice for the American electorate.
Do you want a your hired president in Hillary Clinton, or do you want a your fired president in Donald Trump?
I think that's not such a hard choice.
Hillary and I have a plan that's on the table that's a your hired plan.
Five components.
First thing we do is we invest in manufacturing, infrastructure, and research in the clean energy jobs for tomorrow.
All right, it goes on from there.
Yeah, the hired, we have 12 million more Americans on food stamps, 8 million more in poverty.
I made the biggest mistake, by the way.
By the way, news roundup information overload hour, 800-941, Sean is on number.
was recently interviewed about our next guest, and I lied through my teeth about what a good guy he is.
Austin Goolsby, the...
What was your job under Obama?
Former?
I was the chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors.
Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors that drove the country's economy into a ditch.
All right, I want to ask you a series of questions.
Go over this with you.
Number one, would you ever pay more taxes than you are legally obligated to pay?
Yes.
You would.
Yes.
So in other words, let's say your tax bill is $100,000 and you think you want to pay more.
Would you give $200,000?
Would you give $101,000?
How much?
I'll give you an example.
I've never seen your tax return, but on my tax return, they have some boxes to check.
Right.
Would you give money to this charity?
Would you, where do you think that they should directly?
No, by the way, no, I don't check that box.
You don't check that box?
No.
Okay.
So, so, yeah, I would, there are things.
It depends what the, you know, what the money goes.
Let me ask you, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever paid consciously?
Have you ever seen a $1 billion loss on my taxes if I could get away with it?
I will only say this.
There are many.
You've never made that much money in your life, so it's not an option.
It's not an option for you.
Well, I'll tell you who lost more money at the State Department in 2014.
The Inspector General pointed out that J. Excuse me.
The Inspector General pointed out that Hillary Clinton actually lost $6 billion.
Look, you're trying to.
Would you like me to read it to you?
How much do you want to bet?
I'm going to ask you to complete your first thought.
You've been talking to Donald Trump too much.
You can't distract.
Here's what I want to ask you.
Let me ask the question.
Have you ever purposely paid more money in federal income tax than you are obligated to pay?
I have chosen not to be aggressive with avoidance.
That's not my question.
That's a choice.
That is your choice.
Hang on a second.
No, no, no.
My question is very simple.
Have you ever consciously chosen to pay more than you are legally obligated by law to pay?
And I think the answer is yes, because legally I could have pressed these deductions as far as they could.
I know what you mean.
All right, I get this.
So in other words, you didn't pull a Bill and Hillary Clinton in your life anymore.
I'm going to go to Trump, but yes.
Correct.
Well, Bill and Hillary once deducted their old underwear.
Do you think that's pushing the envelope a little?
Well, it depends how nice the underwear was.
I mean, really, really?
Austin?
Austin?
Austin, you're digging a hole.
Really?
You think it's okay that they deducted?
I'm telling a joke, if you can't tell.
Okay.
So you don't think, you think that's pushing the envelope to take?
It sounds like it's pushing the envelope.
It sounds like it's pushing.
It's circumstantial.
And Hillary Clinton.
I've already established.
You pulled that thing with me of Donald Trump and the terrorists.
I know.
I really did a good job.
I don't trust whatever you ask me.
I used to trust you.
But that's what you verify.
All right, let me ask this.
Is it a good idea for America to move towards energy independence for the following two reasons?
One is we will no longer be dependent on other countries for the lifeblood of our economy, which is energy.
And two, it would create millions of high-paying jobs and create careers for Americans, and it would increase the wealth and money and revenues to the federal government.
Is it a good thing or a bad thing?
If we can do that in a way that does not poison our water or kill our children through the air, yes, it's a great idea.
Is it a bad idea to run on a platform that says you want to put coal miners out of work and coal companies out of business?
A, Hillary Clinton does not have a platform that says that.
All right, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Fact check time.
This is Hillary Clinton saying she wants to put coal workers out of work.
Coal companies.
You just said it's not her platform.
Let's go to the audio tape.
I'm the only candidate which has a policy about how to bring economic opportunity using clean renewable energy as the key into coal country because we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.
Stop right there.
We're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.
I'm the only candidate that has that platform.
A, that's not what a platform is.
But B, I give you credit for playing the whole sentence rather than just the second half of the plan.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
How can you say that's her policy when the first sentence because she just said it?
Those people are losing their jobs.
We're going to make sure that they have jobs.
Okay, she says I'm the only candidate that's going to put coal miners out of get out of the minor.
She said I'm the only candidate that's going to put them back to work.
She's the only candidate which has a policy about how to bring economic opportunity using clean renewable energy as the key into coal country because we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.
We're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.
She said her policy.
Okay, well, do you mean like Solyndra?
Wait a minute.
Economic opportunity.
Wasn't that like that's her policy.
Wasn't that like Solyndra?
Wasn't that like shovel-ready jobs that weren't so shovel-ready?
No, it's not like shovel-ready.
You and the Solyndra, if you go look at that program that Solyndra, Solyndra failed, but many of those companies succeeded in the United States.
But you half agree with Donald Trump very well.
Listen, we all want to protect the environment, but we have proven with fracking that we can protect the environment.
We've proven that we can agree with that.
And we have clean coal.
and we've proven that we can drill effectively and clean and not depend on...
No, but now wait a minute.
We've talked about frack, and I agree that if you can do that in a clean way that does not poison the groundwater, does not lead to earthquakes that are knocking people's houses down, that there are important opportunities.
Let me give you an example.
There are a lot of places where it is poisoning the groundwater.
No, there's not one instance where fracking has poisoned the groundwater.
Not one.
Not a single instance.
No.
What are you talking about?
Tell me where it is.
Where is it?
In Pennsylvania.
No.
Okay.
I am telling you, there's not a single documented case where the drinking water has been impacted.
Now, let's go to the president.
One of the things is you believe in big government.
You believe Obama when he says we're going to have shovel-ready jobs.
We've got shovel-ready projects all across the country to start helping states and local governments with shovel-ready projects.
We are seeing shovels hit the ground.
There are almost 100 shovel-ready transportation projects.
Shovels will soon be moving earth, and trucks will soon be pouring concrete.
Shovel-ready was not as shovel-ready as we expected.
All right, shovel-ready was not as we expected.
So really, the president, we now have 12 million more Americans on food stamps since he's been president, 8 million more in poverty.
Excuse me.
And 9.
No, I did actually, after you said it last time, 12 million more Americans on food stamps, 8 million more in poverty, and 94 million Americans out of the labor force.
I updated the number.
It used to be 95 million.
Now, you might believe Obama.
He said shovel-ready, and then he joked, not so shovel-ready, just like he said this about Obamacare.
When you hear about the Affordable Care Act, Obamacare.
And I don't mind the name because I really do care.
A system where we're going to work with your employers to lower your premiums by up to $2,500 per family per year.
Add it all up.
And the plan I'm proposing will cost around $900 billion over 10 years.
We will start by reducing premiums by as much as $2,500 per family.
All right, now let's go to the facts.
Since Obama has been president, the average family has seen their health care bill increase on average $4,100 per family.
Now, we now have Aetna United and even Blue Cross Blue Shield in California and many counties now and states around the country that have no choice, no options, one company that is the only company within the exchange and even those companies want to get out.
So the promise of keeping your doctor, your plan, and saving $2,500 a year was a lie.
The promise of shovel-ready jobs was a lie.
No, I'm trying to educate you.
I agree with you.
And I always, I am a dealer in fact, not spend, and I'm not going to spend the exit of several of the insurers from some of those exchanges.
That is a troubling problem, and they got to address that.
Now, I would also highlight.
Well, you can't spend that people didn't save money.
Remember, the promise was on average are going to save $2,500.
The second is the $2,500, and I can send you the fact sheet from the Obamacare legislation.
I don't need your fact sheet.
I have him on audio saying it.
Relative to what is happening in the world without it.
All right, hang on a second.
Wait, wait, wait.
No, hold on.
You keep saying that.
You're saying relative to what's happening in the world.
Wait a minute.
That's not what he said.
He said, save $2,500.
All right, well, let's play it again.
I'll play it again.
Tell me where he says relative.
Play it again.
Play it.
And I want to hear where he says relative to what's happening in the world and putting context and texture that he never mentioned.
You hear about the Affordable Care Act, Obamacare.
And I don't mind the name because I really do care.
A system where we're going to work with your employers to lower your premiums.
Lower?
By up to $2,500 per family per year.
Add it all up.
And the plan I'm proposing will cost around $900 billion over 10 years.
We will start by reducing premiums by as much as $2,500 per family.
There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would ensure illegal immigrants.
This, too, is false.
Here's what Change is saying to people who already have health insurance, and the employers who are providing it will work to lower your premiums.
All right, let me stop because we're running out of time.
But the point is...
My sentence is this, and then you can respond to it.
You said premiums are up $4,000, but what you did not say is...
Okay, $4,100.
What you did not say is that in the seven years before that, the premiums were up something like $8,000.
Something like that.
If they had stayed at those trends, they would be up even more than $2,500.
And do you think the average American dollar?
You want to put all this relative to where we are, relative to what you were paying to.
Relative to what past increases were.
No, no, no, no, no.
Remember?
That's not.
Just like he said, shovel ready.
Shovel ready.
Shovel ready.
They weren't shovel ready.
Oops, they weren't shovel ready.
I would save you $20,000, and it's saved more than $2,500.
Here's the bottom line.
Would be up $8,000 instead of $4,000.
Just like he said that the national debt, $9 trillion in the national debt, we're taking a credit card to the Bank of China in the name of our kids, and you can bet me that Donald Trump is going to win or not.
Yeah, I will.
How much you want to bet?
Okay.
Now, you still owe me the $1,000.
All right, wait.
But before we do this, I want to just say this.
This is how bad your president has been, and this is incontrovertible.
I want you to listen to what your economy has done.
The worst recovery since the 40s.
Not anymore.
The lowest labor participation rate since the 70s.
No, not even since last year.
94 million Americans out of the labor force.
Retired.
12, not all.
Nice try.
12 million more Americans on food stamps.
Fact.
8 million more Americans in poverty.
Fact.
51-year low in the home ownership rate.
Fact.
First president to never reach 3% GDP growth in American history.
Fact.
Excuse me.
I'm not done yet.
I'm not done.
I'm not done.
One in five American families without a single family member in the labor force.
Fact.
One in six American men 18 to 34 in jail or living in mommy and daddy's basement.
Fact.
And by the time he leaves office, he will accumulate more debt than all 43 presidents before him combined.
Sean, fact.
Once again, why do I need to keep explaining to you the difference between inflation and debt accumulation?
Okay, so the fact that Grandpa was a kid cost a nickel.
More debt than every other president before him combined.
And this is accounting equity.
Excuse me.
And this is what he said about the debt himself.
The way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back.
That's irresponsible.
It's unpatriotic.
Oh, now it's $18.50.
Okay, why do you put in all the extra words that Obama never said?
Bank of China.
I didn't put in extra from the Bank of China.
We're not borrowing the money from China.
China's in prison.
Listen, repeat after me.
That's the money.
Repeat after me.
If Hillary gets elected, we're doomed.
I got to go.
If Hillary gets elected, we're doomed.
We're doomed.
Goodbye.
Why did I say nice things about this guy in the interview?
I don't know.
I talked to Sean Hannity.
Everybody refuses to call.
Sean Hannity.
Sean Hannity.
Nobody calls Sean Hannity.
I said the words are stupid thing.
If somebody would call Sean Hannity, I told John Hannan.
That's more of my name than I want to hear.
All right, 25 now till the top of the day.
Who did that thing, by the way?
You sent me it on YouTube.
That's so funny.
That thing goes on for like nine minutes.
I know.
It's Sean Hannity.
All right, enough.
Enough.
All right.
I don't want to hear my name.
It's not even though.
It is pretty well done.
Stanger found it, and we all laughed about it.
We just had to.
All right, you could put it up on YouTube.
It's funny.
How much do you think it killed Alec Baldwin to have to mention my name on Saturday Night Live?
I thought that was priceless.
You got to admit, though.
Now, look, I'm being nice by not playing the tapes that I used to play on Baldwin.
I am being nice.
And I'm even going to say this.
You know, his daughter's in the tabloids a lot.
I guess she's a model or something.
The one that he had with Kim Basinger, and he called those horrible names to.
But his brother Steven one day called me and asked me to stop.
So I stopped.
And then the dope comes after me again, and I started up again.
And then on Twitter, you know, Alec's daughter is asking me to stop the fight.
And I'm like, what am I going to say to a young woman who's asking me to knock it off?
But my thought is, well, why don't you tell your dopey dad to stop it?
Considering he started, you know, every fight I have, I don't start.
Did you hear Glenn Beck?
You know, when I said that I practiced martial arts, I now got my brown belt and I'm working towards my black belt.
I've been at this almost five years now.
And so, I mean, I treat the way I do this business because I think like a martial artist.
That's how I think.
Now, I am not a black belt.
I'm working towards it.
It is an art.
It is hard work.
I have many, many black and blues to prove it, as you all know here.
But what I'm saying is, I never started the fight with the Wall Street Journal and Brett Stevens.
He attacked me.
Glenn Beck has taken monologues that I've done, and Glenn Beck has gone on and spent an entire hour breaking down a Hannity monologue.
I never talked about Sean Hannity.
And then him and his team, one of those guys, Pat or Stu, you know, called me a Nazi.
I think it was Pat.
I'm like, really?
Another Glenn Beck Nazi analogy?
Really?
How many more of those do we need?
You do realize that you can discuss a study where you have to have discipline and respect with a man who shoves his face in his face.
Yeah, well, he's again, a man who shoves his face in Cheetos.
Yeah, no, we said that.
You said that already.
All right, so 34 days out of an election, the polls are really, really tight.
It is a change election year, and I don't have time.
I didn't start the fight with the Wall Street Journal and Brett Stevens.
I didn't start the fight with Beck.
I didn't start the fight with Rich Lowry and Jonah Goldberg.
I got more important things to do.
But I'm not going to sit there.
And this is my martial arts analogy.
I'm not going to sit there and get punched and not punch back.
The whole, you know, the whole street martial art, jujitsu, Kempo, Israeli arts that I'm studying is all about is I'm a counterpuncher.
And it's just the same thing.
So Glenn Beck goes on to his radio show and says, oh, Sean Hannity's threatening to go all karate on me.
He just doesn't know what he's talking about.
No, I'm making an analogy.
If you hit me verbally, I'm going to verbally hit you back 10 times harder.
And in Glenn's case, to be perfectly honest, I did not hit him back 10 times harder.
I left most of my ammunition on the cutting room floor, if you will, because I just don't feel like getting into it.
Got better things to do, like winning an election.
All right, Ian is next from Cadillac, Michigan.
Hey, Ian, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
I'm doing well.
Thank you.
Sean, you make the best case for the Trump's presidency.
If you made a ringtone just of all Trump's attributes, I think it would be selling like hotcakes.
I don't know.
Do people buy those ringtones still?
Absolutely.
They're great conversation starters, and that's what we need right now to drive it home to all the friends and family that we talk to.
Look, we're 34 days away.
This is a choice election.
I keep going over this.
I'll say it as often as I need to say it.
The overall themes are very, very simple.
Hillary's going to raise taxes.
Donald Trump's going to drop the top corporate rate down to 15%, one of the lowest in the industrialized world.
That'll incentivize big companies to move here and build their manufacturing centers here and their factories here.
You know, Trump is not going to fire coal miners and put coal companies out of business like Hillary.
He wants to expand coal mining and fracking, all of the above, and drilling.
Well, that's going to create millions of high-paying jobs and careers for Americans.
And the added benefit is that it's good for our national security not to be dependent on foreign oil.
You know, Donald Trump is going to eliminate Obamacare, which is now literally falling apart of its own weight.
And that means there'll be choice and competition and portability.
And that means you really will be able to get your own doctor back and pick your own hospital again.
And you'll be able to keep your own plan.
And this time, hopefully, bring a job to job.
Hillary's going to appoint liberal leftist radicals to the Supreme Court.
Trump has given us a list of originalists that have fidelity to the Constitution, that believe in separation of powers, co-equal branches of government, and not legislating from the bench.
You know, huge difference.
It will impact this country for generations.
You know, Trump can say and identify our enemy, radical Islamists.
Hillary is scared to death to do it.
You know, on border security, we need to control our border, national security benefits, and the added benefits that you don't have people coming into our country competing for limited jobs available with 95 million Americans out of the labor force.
And it just goes on from there.
Education, top-down, common core, dictated by Washington, or send it back to local communities, the $11,600 we spend per student, that's wasted.
We spend more money than any other country in the industrialized world with the worst results.
You know, what the U.S. role in the world is.
Well, I don't want a president that's going to send us into Iraq like Hillary and have brave men and women fight, bleed, and die for Mosul and Ramadi and Fallusha and to Crete and Baghdad, only to have Hillary after 5,000 people die, pull out, politicize the war, and then say, oops, E-Daisy, we made a mistake.
Sorry about your dead children.
I can't take it anymore.
We can't do that to our military anymore.
It's horrible.
Absolutely horrible.
So it's a choice election.
You're very kind to say that.
I just want my country back.
And I'm very worried that we have a lot of dumb people in this country.
There's a lot of people that would probably even vote Obama back into office.
And that's scary.
All right, let's go to our phones.
Tony is in Maine.
You know, Maine, actually, they have distribution of their electoral votes.
And there's a chance that Trump could get an electoral vote in Maine.
What's going on, Tony?
How are you?
I'm going to know that.
How are you doing today, Sean?
I'm good, buddy.
What's going on?
What's happening?
I have a good friend of mine who lives in Maine.
It is an honor to speak with you, sir.
Honors all mine.
I just wanted to share some information that my wife and I have discovered.
We travel around the United States in a motorhome.
Basically, we retired early.
And something that we've seen, Sean, that you do not hear, we have counted the yard signs, and we've seen 648 Trump signs, and we have seen seven Hillary signs.
And how many states have you been in?
We've been from Florida all the way up to where now up to Maine.
We've hit the East Coast.
Look, it's very anecdotal.
I think we see it in the size of the crowds.
I think enthusiasm clearly is with Trump and not with Hillary.
And I think that's why Hillary's only strategy is to try and create an image that Donald Trump doesn't have the temperament to be president.
That's what's going on here.
I think you're right with that.
Just like, for example, the post-debate polls, the unscientific polls that people rip me for daring to cite, well, they do show something.
They show a level of enthusiasm for Trump supporters.
I'm not saying, you know, Nate Silver keeps writing Shannon he doesn't believe the real scientific polls.
I actually do.
And I would say today, 34 days out, Donald Trump is probably, probably nationally about one or two points down.
The real clear politics average is three something.
The state of North Carolina is very tight, dead even close.
The state of Florida, close.
The state of Virginia, I think, is a lot closer like in Ed Gillespie's race back in, what, two years ago, a couple of years ago.
And then I would say Ohio is close.
Pennsylvania could very well be in play.
If they made a play for New Jersey, I think they could actually put that in play.
Michigan can be in play.
Iowa is going Trump.
Colorado can go Trump.
Nevada can go Trump.
Wisconsin can go Trump.
But all of them could go Hillary.
Now, I'm saying that.
You're saying, Hannity, gee, you're really helping me out here.
I don't know how this election is going to turn out.
I wish I did.
But I'm just telling everybody what's in play and what's at stake here.
And it's an awful lot.
Ellen is in Leesburg, Florida.
Ellen, how are you?
And we're glad you called.
Well, thank you, Sean, for taking my call.
The only comment I wanted to make today was Bill Clinton's comment about Obamacare and it being the craziest thing in the world.
And I have to agree, it has greatly affected many, many people, my family included.
And I want to know if and when Donald does get elected, how long is it going to take to turn it around?
It's not going to be something that happens overnight.
I think he can do a lot of things really quickly.
I think getting rid of Obama's executive orders, he can get done quickly.
I think getting a bill passed to build a wall can get done quickly.
I think moving towards energy independence could get done very, very quickly.
The tax bill is going to be a war over lowering the seven rates we now have into three rates and dropping the top corporate rate to 15% is going to be a war.
But if he gets it done, then it's going to probably take a couple of years before we see the real impact and positive impact of job creation, economic growth that we need.
It just, you know, there's a lot of damage that's been done, and it's not easy to fix.
It really has been done, and it's very devastating to many families, my own included.
And that was my question is, it's going to take forever to turn it around again, or can we look to the future maybe in a year and have back to our own normal doctors and normal benefits and things that we can afford to pay every month?
Yeah.
Anyway, I appreciate your kind words.
Thank you.
Let's see.
Glenn Beck wrote, very, very sad.
Has something new happened?
Sean will always be welcome in my world.
He's not my, I'm not his enemy.
He's the one that keeps saying, well, we need to all get together 35 days from now.
Basically, I'm fighting for the country right now.
This election is in this country is in peril.
The economy is in a shambles, which is why I give out these statistics every day.
Real Americans, real suffering.
Glenn, you want to talk about getting together in 35 days?
No, I have no interest in meeting anybody in 34 days.
Thanks for the invitation.
You know, how about comparing the Supreme Court nominees between Hillary and Trump and tell me which one you prefer picking them?
Tell me whether or not you want to vet refugees or not.
To answer these questions, Glenn, you know, tell me, Glenn Beck, if you want a border wall or not.
Didn't he go down to the border and give out teddy bears or something once?
Good grief.
Glenn, do you want energy independence or do you want coal miners out of work and coal companies out of business?
Do you want a president that can say radical Islam or not?
Is education better in the hands of local municipalities, states, and parents?
Or is it better top-down, Common Core, nationally dictated, which Hillary's going to do as she's beholden to the NEA?
You know, all of these Obamacare, you want to keep it or you want to get rid of it?
I don't know what else to say.
You know, he's writing, very sad, has something new happened?
No, nothing new has happened, except you keep talking about wanting to get together 34 days from now and let's have a big powwow.
And I'm like, I want you to wake up to what you're contributing to, which is the election of Hillary Clinton.
This, by the way, is going to be an hour on the Glenn Beck show tomorrow.
And I'll probably be called a Nazi again by one of his cohorts.
You know, being kind, understanding, and turning the other cheek is more important.
Glenn, I'm not attacking you.
You have spent hours dissecting my every word on radio and TV, and then you just lie about ever doing it.
And he quotes, he says, Jesus didn't teach, when they hit you, you hit back twice as hard.
Well, my martial arts kind of teaches that.
When people attack me, I'm going to fight back.
I guess I never claim to be the greatest Christian, although I believe in Jesus.
I believe he's the Son of God.
I know I'm one of the people that he had to die on the cross for because I'm a sinner.
So I can't proclaim I'm the great Christian here.
I don't go to church as much as I should, and I hate the Catholic church I was raised in because of what they did and how corrupt they became.
Anyway, but I still, you know, have fondness for Glenn.
I'm just, you know, I just don't think he's seeing the reality of what this election means to this country right now.
I don't have a lot of time to deal with it.
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