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I know you know.
Motherfuckers keep on killing us.
And y'all motherfucking got uniform.
They killed an unarmed black man.
They killed an unarmed black man Charlotte, North Carolina, because he was reading a book.
Make this go viral.
Show nothing but love.
Show nothing but love.
You scared.
They lying.
It was a book.
I'm here.
It was a book.
There's a constitution that you've got to follow.
And just because my skin is dark, you don't have the right to hide behind white privilege and white supremacy and murder us and go home and fix the sandwich.
You do not have that right.
And we will not leave until you understand that.
Every day it happens.
You at the bad boy reunion joint.
You at Bubble.
You at Club One right now.
You don't give a f about your own people.
When you get shot out front of that, don't be mad.
We won't be marching for you.
We out here like the motherfucking Taliban.
We out here like the Taliban.
They done got them.
They done gases and everything.
We out here like the Taliban.
We out here.
We out here.
This is what they do to us.
Told them ain't going nowhere.
We don't need y'all on our streets.
We got this.
Period.
We got this.
Think you gonna take a body off our street and leave?
Nah, you stayin' here with us, buddy.
I ain't heard about no tear gas .
I eat that for lunch, nigga.
Look.
No.
I ate that lunch.
That s ain't gonna stop me.
Motherf.
That s ain't gonna stop me that weak because I'm black and I'm strong.
You think I give a f?
You know what I mean?
You think I give a f ⁇ .
I don't give a f ⁇ about that tear gas.
Y'all gonna see what's up.
I told y'all.
Now you think I'm worried about martial law?
Man, get the f ⁇ out of here with that cool cuz.
They ain't worried about none of that.
That tear gas weak as hell.
I walked straight up in that motherfucker.
I'm gonna get my money.
I love my country.
I wouldn't have it any other way.
I wouldn't have it any other way.
When I look at you, I don't hate you, man.
Bro, how many times you invite me to look the other way?
How many times you marry me to look the other way, man?
Huh?
Speak up.
Speak on it.
Just give me an answer.
Just give me an answer, man.
I really don't hate you.
I don't hate none of you.
But I love my fing country.
I got brothers that died for this.
Man, you seen this man?
You know what it is?
So, why?
Why?
I don't hate you, man.
I don't hate none of you.
So why y'all just playing this?
Is that what you can do?
Just look the other way.
We're watching modern day lynching on social media, on television, and it is affecting the psyche of black people.
That's what you saw last night.
This is what, when you don't get your justice, we don't get a redress for our grief, and we don't get justice.
This is what you see, and you're going to see more of that.
We're not telling our brothers and sisters to stop.
We're not going to get out there and tell y'all, oh, brother, you shouldn't do that.
You shouldn't do this.
Well, we ain't getting no justice.
Well, they say the riots continues.
Civil rights activist Charlotte, North Carolina, telling reporters this morning that African Americans were justified in the rioting after a black police officer killed a black suspect.
Now, they were saying last night, we're told last night, how often have we been given misinformation in cases?
Remember the first thing you heard about Michael Brown?
They shot him in the back.
They shot him.
He had his hands up.
Don't shoot.
That entire narrative turned out to be true.
He had a book.
In this case, no, he didn't have a book.
He had a gun.
And then you saw the mayhem, 12 cops injured last night, a Walmart looted.
We outliked the Taliban, motorists hit by rocks, and trouble comes to Charlotte.
You got one Charlotte activist, this was in the New York Times, B.J. Murphy, telling reporters, we're watching a modern-day lynching on social media.
You just heard this on television.
It's affecting the psyche of black people.
And he added that everybody in Charlotte should be on notice that black people today, we're tired of this bull.
We're tired of being killed and nobody's saying nothing.
And we're tired of our political leaders going along to get along.
They're so weak.
They don't have no sympathy.
I'm reading this verbatim for our grief.
And we want justice.
And I'm not telling our brothers and sisters to stop.
We're going to get out there and tell y'all, oh, brother, you shouldn't do that.
You shouldn't do this.
When we ain't getting no justice.
That's a direct verbatim quote here.
Now, I'm going to tie something together.
We have a town hall tonight with Donald Trump and a predominantly black church in Cleveland.
And we have to examine everything that has happened.
You know, one of the things that we're going to do, I'm going to start tonight at the beginning of the program, and I am going to, we're at Reverend Scott's Church.
He's the CEO of the National Diversity Coalition for Donald Trump and members of his congregation, other supporters in the area.
We're in Cleveland.
And Obama started out eight years ago.
Hope and change.
Shovel ready jobs.
Whoops, not so shovel-ready.
You have to ask yourself as we see this president rush to judgment in the Cambridge police case, rush to judgment in the Trayvon Martin case.
I know people don't like the George Zimmerman verdict, but there was an eyewitness in the case that said and spotted and identified Trayvon Martin on top of George Zimmerman, Zimmerman screaming for his life, pounding and grounding and pounding his head into the cement.
And his life clearly in jeopardy.
We all heard the scream.
And then when the next case comes, it's Ferguson, Missouri.
And there's Michael Brown.
The first thing we're told ends up, like in this case, not to be true.
And we're told that Michael Brown had his hands up and said, don't shoot.
Hands up.
Don't shoot.
And he got shot in the back.
Well, he wasn't shot in the back, number one.
He didn't have his hands up, number two.
We know because of the multiple African-American eyewitnesses in that case that testified that Michael Brown, the same guy we saw on tape robbing a store, intimidating a clerk.
Well, then when the cop asked him to move over, he fit the description of the person involved in the strong-armed robbery that took place moments earlier that he was a part of.
Well, that Michael Brown fought Officer Darren Wilson for his gun.
That's where the first shot went off inside of the officer's car as Michael Brown was fighting for it.
Anyway, Michael Brown takes off and then ends up charging back at the police officer, Darren Wilson, who had to fire to protect himself.
And look what happened there.
Then we heard the story of Freddie Gray.
Freddie Gray, okay, 8:30 in the morning, cops on a bicycle, and he's running.
Known drug dealer to police officer.
Why is he running?
At 8:30 in the morning from a cop.
And then the charges were that the cops had abused him.
Every one of those cops exonerated in that case.
Doesn't stop this president, four-time loser, wrong on the Cambridge police, wrong in Trayvon Martin.
He could look like me 35 years ago, or Trayvon could look like my son.
Wrong in Ferguson, wrong in Baltimore.
And now we have people, we have a couple of cases now evolving and emerging here and having to do with police officers.
I'm going to get to the Oklahoma case in a few minutes.
But what you have, we've got to ask ourselves a question here.
Now, I mean, when you got Black Lives Matter, pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon.
You heard it again last night.
What do we want?
Dead cops.
When do we want them now?
Their enthusiastic support embraced the Black Lives Matter movement, embraced by our president, embraced by Hillary Clinton, embraced by other high-profile Democrats.
A black police officer can no longer defend himself when confronted by an armed black suspect who refuses to drop his weapon.
Because if he does, the next thing you know, you're going to have riots breaking out all over the city.
The Charlotte Observer pointed out that Charlotte officials are now preparing for more protests today and tonight following the violence.
16 police officers in total injured overnight.
Series of clashes.
Reports early Wednesday: motorists on I-85 hurt when their vehicles were damaged when protesters were throwing rocks and bottles.
Officers hurt, mostly minor injuries.
Although one was hit in the face, that was caught on video.
You have the Charlotte police chief saying the department is still viewing video from the scene, though the officer involved in the shooting himself was not wearing a camera.
And he said the officer who fired the shots and in plain clothes wearing a vest was accompanied by a uniformed officer when they approached the victim.
Now, the first reports were apparently didn't have a gun.
He did have a gun.
And, you know, whether or not it was being pointed at the officer, you know, we got to give it time.
You know, police officers that fight for your liberty and your freedom and your assumption of innocence, well, they should have the right to the same thing.
And by the way, unless I missed it, we have yet to hear a peep out of either Clinton and Obama condemning this irrational anti-cop violence.
Now, if cops act in a wrong way, like remember the guy that was shot in the back, I'll be the first to condemn them.
But cops do deserve, like the rest of us, the presumption of innocence.
Here's a question that I want to ask you, though, and I think it's fitting for the show that we're doing tonight with Donald Trump for the hour on the problems in the black community in America.
We have, as I tell you every day, the lowest labor participation rate since the 70s, 95 million Americans out of the labor force.
America's had the worst recovery since the 40s.
The country has the lowest home ownership rate in 51 years.
We have 13 million more Americans on food stamps, nearly 50 million Americans, 43 million Americans in poverty, 8 million more than since Obama's been president.
Median household income is now lower than it was in 2007.
One in five households, not a single family member working.
One in six American men, 18 to 34 prime working years, are either in jail or out of work living in mommy's basement.
Obama will leave office having accumulated more debt than every other president before him combined.
All of the president's failed policies, when you look at things, have also disproportionately impacted the black community.
Let's look at the numbers.
Since Obama's been president, 58% increase in the number of black Americans on food stamps.
20% increase in the number of black Americans who no longer are in the labor force.
African American home ownership rate is down.
It's more than 20% lower than the national average.
African American unemployment rate, 8.1%.
National average is 4.9%.
Wage gap between black Americans and white workers is the worst in nearly 40 years.
Median household income for African Americans is $20,000 less than the national average.
African American poverty rate is 24.1%, over 10% higher than the national average.
Want to talk about a surge in crime in inner city?
Let's look at the president's hometown of Chicago.
Do you realize this year alone, over 3,100 people have been shot just this year since Obama's been president and in office?
3,660 people have been murdered.
And according to the Chicago Tribune, historical stats show that 75% of those victims are African-American.
Add to that an educational system that is especially bad in inner-city America.
Why?
Because this is an unholy alliance between liberal Democrats like Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, the NEA, and the mysterious reluctance and resistance to fix schools and allow parents the choice to send their kids to better schools.
You look at the high school graduation rates, 9% lower for African American students than the national average.
We're failing these children.
The high school dropout rate for African American students, also higher than the national average.
The results, by the way, should be much bigger and better given that the U.S. is ranked fourth in the world on pupil spending.
We spend $11,600 per student in this country.
And despite that high spending, America is 17th in reading, 19th in science, and 26th in math.
And I'm not even talking about foreign policy disasters.
So the question is, as you watch all of this in Charlotte, as we're going to address specifically problems in the black community tonight with Donald Trump for an hour, is there a correlation?
You know, Charlotte activists say, oh, it's going to continue.
Really?
It's going to continue?
Is this good for the community?
Is this good for anybody?
I'll also tell you about the Tulsa Oklahoma shooting as well.
We've got so much to get to today on the program.
We've got Anthony Wiener is caught, according to the UK Daily Mail, sexting an underage girl.
Nate Silver, who had Donald Trump's chances of winning the presidency of 3%, now has him at 48%.
And so much more that we're going to get to.
We also have the Clinton Foundation gave African AIDS patients watered down drugs.
I guess they were pocketing the money for the Clinton Foundation.
The Daily News and New York reports today, almost of the press reports, were suggesting that the terrorist bomber Ahmad Rahami was a lone wolf who planted 30 assorted bombs in four different locations.
Well, we spotlighted a report from Sunday night on PICS 11 in New York.
It's a news station that mentions surveillance video showing two men who seem to be acting as Rahami's accomplices.
Well, today the New York Daily News reports that cops and federal agents want the public's help in finding these two men.
Why didn't they say that from the very beginning?
Anyway, it's apparently they come across a pressure cooker, the one that they found that didn't blow in luggage in Chelsea, they believe to have been left by the bomber, Rahami, they said, the two men dressed in casual clothes.
They were captured on video Saturday between 8 and 9 p.m. on West 27th Street between 6th and 7th Avenue.
They came across the airline tote bag on the sidewalk.
They removed the pressure cooker containing explosives, and they walked away with the luggage.
They left the device behind.
The bomb on West 27th Street was a shock-sensitive device.
The NYPD chief counterterrorism officer James Waters said these two men were very lucky.
The FBI is asking for the public's assistance now in locating these two individuals.
So it seems that it wasn't just a lone wolf in this particular case.
Anyway, that's one of the stories, an update on that particular thing.
But now, we have some other news here today that I think is pretty important.
Nate Silver.
Nate Silver said on Twitter that I don't believe in polls.
No, I actually do believe in polls, and I said that from the very beginning, and I follow polls.
And I think you take the aggregate number or the Real Clear Politics average, you throw out the highest number, the lowest number, and you're probably somewhere in the middle.
Well, Donald Trump is beginning to take a lead in North Carolina, Florida, Ohio, up by two in Colorado in the last poll I saw, up by two in Nevada.
He's winning by eight in Iowa.
I mean, these are all very, very important states.
Three-point race in Wisconsin, three-point race he's behind in Michigan.
Pennsylvania seems to be in play.
We don't know what the actual numbers are right now, but we'll see.
Anyway, the media expert, so loved by liberals, who predicted not so long ago that Donald Trump's chances of defeating Hillary Clinton were virtually non-existent at 3%, he's now pretty much saying it's a 50-50 race.
He gives Trump a 48% chance of winning in his latest vote projection.
So, you know, by the way, only six electoral votes short of winning and one point away from equaling Hillary Clinton's popular vote.
This is the newest 538 survey.
Trump at 264, Clinton at 272, two more than needed.
270 is the magic number.
It's the closest it's been now in recent weeks.
And what's more, he has the popular vote within the margin of victory, 45.4 to 44.3.
And just a month ago, Silver had Trump's chances at only 3%.
Not sure what to make of this.
It was in the U.K. Daily Mail today that Anthony Weiner carried on a months-long online sexual relationship with a 15-year-old girl during which she claims he asked her to undress or to dress up in schoolgirl outfits for him on a video messaging application,
pressed her to engage in rape fantasies, and the girl whose name is withheld by the paper because she's a minor said the online relationship began last January while she was a high school sophomore.
And before Weiner's wife, Hillary Clinton's aide, Uma Abedeen, announced that she was ending their marriage.
Weiner was aware the girl was underage, according to the DailyMail.com, interviews with the girl and her mother and father, as well as a lot of online messages that they were able to view.
Weiner and Abedeen still live in the same apartment despite their split.
Weiner did not deny exchanging flirtatious messages with the teen.
You know, here's a question I can guarantee that Lester Holt won't be asking at Monday night's debate.
Senator Clinton, why is it your most trusted aide still part of your inner circle?
Five years, forget it.
I'm not going there.
The Chelsea, oh, this is a big development in the Chelsea bomber case.
The New York bombing suspect said that he had received instructions from, quote, terrorist leaders to attack non-believers where they live, as he was charged yesterday, last night, with the use of weapons of mass destruction.
Ahmad Khan Rahmani Rahami's journal revealed that he accused the U.S. of slaughtering Islamic fighters in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Palestinian territories.
The document ends, quote, the sounds of the bombs will be heard in the streets.
Gunshots to your police, death to your oppression.
And his wife left the United States shortly before Saturday's attacks and was stopped in the United Arab Emirates.
According to U.S. media, she's cooperating with investigators.
She has not been accused of wrongdoing at this point.
All right, let's get to our busy telephones as we say, hi.
I can't read this thing.
Is it AJ, BJ, CJ, RJ from Modesto, California?
What's going on?
You're on the Sean Hannity show.
Hey, Sean, longtime listener.
I'm a political guru, and I just want to help drive home a point because of everything I've been seeing on television, listening to on the radio.
The mainstream media is offended and attacking Mr. Trump for addressing the African American issues and talking about how poor conditions are for their community.
How come it's okay for Obama and any other Democrat, Al Sharpton, Mr. Jackson, you name it, they can talk about how bad things are for the African-American community, but Donald Trump cannot.
And the media has not been challenged on that yet, mainstream media, and I'm waiting to see it happen.
Here's a question that I think needs to be asked.
Are you better off?
This was the Reagan question.
Are you better off than you were eight years ago?
I'm not going to repeat the statistics I just gave out in the last hour.
And, you know, I know that the media is obsessed with demographic breakdowns.
If they want their demographic breakdowns, the people that are suffering the most and that have been disproportionately, negatively impacted by Obama's failed policies are black Americans, African Americans.
And Obama has not helped the black community.
Democrats, every four years, the Democrats come calling.
Every four years, they want the black community's vote.
Every four years, they try and gin up that Republicans are racist.
You know, they have the Klan ads that Hillary's running against Donald Trump.
And it's despicable.
It's sickening.
It's predictable.
It's everything evil in politics.
That's all right on the money, but the media is never challenged on why are you guys attacking Trump for bringing up the exact same argument that all the Democrats bring up for the African American community.
Well, but the Democrats haven't done anything for the black community.
No, they do nothing, but I'm just talking about the message, the messaging.
How come it's okay for the Democrats to say, yeah, things are deplorable for blacks in America, but as soon as Trump says things are deplorable, it's a big-time problem.
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
Don Lemon last night was going off on his high horse.
And it's just.
Don't worry.
Nobody was watching.
Trust me.
Yeah, like three people were, and then I turned the team.
And why would you be watching that when I'm on at the same time?
You should be ashamed of yourself.
AI TiVo.
I always record you, so I kind of hear what people are doing.
Well, how about you TiVo him and you watch me live?
How's that?
I play this game in my house to where they attack Trump big time, and I give it about 15 seconds and then I'm out of there because it's so freaking predictable.
It's ridiculous.
Well, then, you know, once it becomes that predictable, come over to our show, and at least we're giving you, you know, this is the thing.
The media hates me.
Media despises me.
The difference between me and all these sanctimonious, self-righteous, phony media people.
Oh, Sean Hannity supports Donald Trump.
Yeah, I'm honest.
They support Hillary.
You know, I'll give you an example.
I was watching a show on CNN, this little Pipsqueak host, Unreliable Liberal Media Matters Sources.
And who do they have on that?
Carl Bernstein, Woodward and Bernstein of that fame on, hates Trump, even questioned his mental stability in the course of the interview.
Then they go to a panel, and the panel has three people, all anti-Trump.
And then they ask the question, well, I wonder why don't people trust me and believe in me?
Because you're so abusively biased.
The difference between me and them is this.
I'm honest.
I have never hid the fact that I am a conservative.
Absolutely.
And I'm never.
Well, I mean, really, it's like, oh, Sean Hannity supports the more conservative candidate, as I promised I'd do in 2015 and 16.
Okay.
Guilty as charged.
I'm guilty as charged.
I think it's hilarious.
I wish they would take on.
Let me tell you, by the signs of it, I mean, you've got Media Matters I read today, apparently has filed some FEC complaint against me.
Well, in case they don't know, I have freedom of speech rights, too.
But ultimately, what they want is this is an act of intimidation, which I will never give into, to try and silence and scare and intimidate.
I don't scare.
I don't get intimidated.
I get resolved.
And maybe I'll just have to file my own FEC complaint against them because there's nobody more guilty or possibly, in my opinion, I'd like to know where Media Matters gets all their money from.
Why don't we start revealing that?
Why don't we start there as they are an extension of the Clinton campaign in every way, shape, or form?
Anyway, I got to move on.
Thank you, Chris, in Atlanta.
Chris, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Hi.
Sean, can you hear me?
How are you doing?
I'm good, sir.
How are you?
I am doing fantastic.
I'm going to be honest with you, Sean.
I rarely listen to your show.
I happen to get through.
I'm out of Atlanta.
I heard your last call.
What do you mean you rarely?
Why don't you listen to me?
What don't you like about me?
Well, I just don't.
I'm a person that doesn't really listen to a lot of talk shows.
I don't like the CNNs.
I don't like the Fox News.
I think that a lot of it is propaganda.
I think it takes away from people learning and knowing how to critically think for themselves.
Well, let me ask you a question.
I just gave, did you hear my last half hour when I gave out a series of statistics about how worse off we are economically in this country as a result since Obama's been president?
Did you hear me say all that?
I did hear that.
Was that informative?
Well, that was informative.
That was informative.
I was telling your co-host, you are a very intelligent guy.
I just don't listen to a lot of talk shows, but I won't be voting for Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton.
Why?
Because I've got common sense, and I think that common sense is not too common nowadays.
But one of the reasons why I called in is that I think that a lot of people, a lot of news show hosts, a lot of radio show hosts, they perpetuate something that when you talk about police brutality, they perpetuate something that it is not about.
Now, I speak to you, Sean, as a person whose grandfather, my mother's father, T.B. Williamson, he was one of the financiers of the civil rights movement.
You can read about him in Building Atlanta, the book.
You remember I was down a local host in Atlanta.
You know that, right?
Yeah, I do know that, Sean.
You know, I knew Maynard Jackson.
I knew Andy Young.
I knew Joseph Lowery.
I knew Jose Williams.
I knew all these guys.
I call a lot of those guys.
Even Bill Campbell before he went to jail.
Absolutely.
I knew John Lewis.
John Lewis knows who I am.
Cynthia McKinney knew who I was.
Right, period.
Absolutely.
I became a lifetime member of the NAACP when I was down in Atlanta.
I have my card.
Were you a good man, Sean?
You're a good man.
Well, let me ask you this.
Let me see if I can get you to help me out here, okay?
Go ahead.
Are black Americans better off since Obama's been president?
Are black Americans better off since Obama has been president?
I don't want to give you a yes or no answer regardless of.
Well, let me go through the numbers with you one by one.
Since Obama's been president, there's been a 58% increase in the number of black Americans, African Americans on food stamps.
Is that good for black America?
I would say obviously not.
We have a 20% jump in the number of African Americans who are not in the labor force.
Is that good for black America?
I would say obviously not.
The black American home ownership rate is down.
It's more than 20% lower than the national average.
Is that good?
I would say obviously not.
African American unemployment is 8.1%.
The national average is 4.9.
Is that good?
I would say obviously not, Sean, based on the questions you're going to do.
The wage gap between African American and white workers is the worst in 40 years.
Is that good?
Okay.
Based on what you're saying, I will say obviously not.
Median household income for African Americans is $20,000 less than the national average.
Is that good?
Based on what you're saying, I will say it's not.
African American poverty rate is 24.1%.
That's over 10% higher than the national average.
Obviously, that's not good.
We have a surge in inner city crime in Chicago, for example, Obama's hometown.
3,100 people have been shot this year alone.
Since Obama's been president, 3,660 people have been murdered.
Can you name one of those 3,660 people?
You will let me make my point, huh, Sean?
Go ahead.
Okay, my point is this.
And none of it, it's like everybody perpetuates something that it's totally not about.
Now, I live in Buckhead Atlanta, okay, an exclusive area in Buckhead Atlanta.
I am African American, okay?
But we don't have, quote-unquote, a race problem in America.
We never have.
Okay?
The problem is this.
We have economic disparities that have consistently existed where a high percentage of those people that are affected are poor whites, Hispanics, and African Americans.
The only thing I'm saying is this.
Obama promised hope and change.
I'm running out of time.
Obama promised hope and change, and things haven't gotten better.
And he got 93% of the black vote.
And I'm saying that Donald Trump is reaching out to the black community, and based on those statistics, you can't do much worse, as he's been saying.
That's my only pitch to you.
But you vote any way you want.
Anyway, I do appreciate your call.
Secretary Clinton came out today, and she said, the cause is clear.
It's Donald Trump.
Now, think about this.
We have been a war with radical Islamists since the Ayatollah Khomeini took over Iran in 1979, seized the American embassy, and held her hostages.
We had bombings in the 1980s.
We had bombings in the 1990s.
We've been involved in a long war for 15 years, but Hillary Clinton has figured it out.
Donald Trump, apparently, magically in 1979, without realizing it, launched the terrorist war.
I mean, in 1979, he wasn't even in business in Manhattan yet, but he was so precocious as a young man, so filled with talent, that apparently all of this is due to him.
Now, do you know how deranged you have to be to say this with a straight face?
All right, hour two, Sean Hannity Show.
That was Newt Gingrich, 800-941.
Sean, you want to be a part of the program commenting.
Hillary Clinton is saying that Donald Trump aiding and abetting recruitment for ISIS and other nonsense that you keep hearing.
And joining us now is the former Speaker of the House for 48 days till Election Day.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing great.
And I'm probably going to drive you a little bit nuts.
I'm doing a Facebook Live at 4.30 on what we need to do for American terrorists.
Yeah, great.
Tell my audience to go to your Facebook Live and turn off my show.
I mean, what is all that about?
No, it's stored.
They can go to it after the show, of course.
They should finish your show.
And then in the period between this show and your TV tonight, when you have Donald Trump, they have a brief period there.
They're allowed to listen to my Facebook Live in between your radio show and your TV show.
One day we were at the convention, the Republican convention, because you wouldn't brave the Democratic convention, and you made me go all by myself.
Thanks a lot.
And I was there, and all of a sudden you say, oh, we're on Facebook Live, and I'm like saying, that's a bunch of, you know, whatever I'm saying.
I'm like, oh, my gosh.
How many people watch that when you do that?
Well, the last one was really wild because the last one, what they did, Christina Aruna, who does all of our stuff, took the speech you just had.
I was down.
Think about this now.
I went from being Speaker of the House, helping create a majority for the first time in 40 years.
I'm now the warm-up act for Donald Trump.
I mean, it's a little bit like touring with the Beatles or something.
So I went out.
We have 700,000 people now on Facebook.
That's crazy.
And I went out and explained exactly what we picked up on.
We ultimately ended up with something like 70,000 people watched it and 6,200 liked it.
And it just kept, you know, it just keeps growing.
And one of them actually reached something like 1,400,000 people.
So there's this constant thing.
That's why I do the Facebook Live.
But here's what I was going to tell you.
And I don't know that I can say his name right, so somebody in the liberal media will make fun of me.
The guy who wrote The Black Swan, and I think his name is Nassim Telev, but if anybody knows how to say it, they should call and tell us.
Has written this piece that I want to make world famous.
And what he talks about is IYI.
You're going to love this.
It's intellectual yet idiot.
And it actually builds on Charlie Murray's remarkable book, Coming Apart, and the rise of an intellectual class which is totally out of touch with reality.
And what he's saying, an intellectual yet idiot, is an essay he did about a week ago that I'm going to have as the basal we're going to talk about.
And a good example is the bomb issue.
Remember when Donald Trump used the word bomb to describe the bomb in New York because it was a bomb?
Right.
It was a bomb.
And all the news media went, oh, my God, you know how to say that.
In fact, CNN went so desperate as to cut out Hillary saying bomb.
That's correct.
Total prob equality, you know, absolute absurd level of dishonesty.
It's like a 1984 nightmare unfolding before our eyes.
Exactly.
And apparently today, they actually inserted a word and claimed Trump said something he didn't say to try to prove he was a racist.
And this kind of stuff's going on.
But the point that really fits, for example, the FBI, and one of the things I'm working on right now is how many of the people who got picked up for terrorism inside the U.S. did the FBI look at and say there's nothing there?
Well, we know this guy's father told him that he was radicalized.
You know, one of the things that's very frustrating is that we're finding this in almost every case, is that right after somebody does something like this guy did in New York and New Jersey, you know, it takes us about five minutes to find out, oh, it's all over the internet that this guy was radicalized.
And my question is, why aren't we finding it out beforehand?
And, you know, it seems that a lot of the people that are involved in these cases, they take recent trips to Pakistan or Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia.
I don't know that many Americans that actually, you know, let me see.
I want to go to St. Bart's or I'll go to Afghanistan or Iraq.
Let me think, or Syria.
I think there ought to be a red flag if you're going to certain countries that are known for their radicalism.
Right.
But again, that's evil profiling on my part, not common sense.
You're the same thing, I believe, with the Boston bomber.
You're the same thing with the killer in San Bernardino.
And so you begin to say to yourself, is there a pattern?
And should anybody who goes into Pakistan, which is a hotbed of terrorism, be looked at extra carefully when they come back?
And this is going to require us to really rethink some of our ground rules.
And my whole argument is that these people are engaged in warfare against the United States.
These are not criminal acts.
These are acts of war, which makes them traitors.
I mean, attacking the United States, if you're an American citizen, is an act of treason.
And we need to really think through what are the laws Congress has to pass to enable us to accurately identify people who are trying to destroy us.
Let me ask this.
We're doing a town hall.
You saw everything that happened in Charlotte, North Carolina last night, right?
Yes.
So I'm asking this question tonight because we're doing it at Pastor Scott's church, predominantly black church in America, and this is all part of continued outreach of Donald Trump to the black community.
It seems like it's paying dividends.
He is going into the black community and he's saying, I want your vote.
And he's saying, you can't do any worse.
And as I put together the information for tonight, these are the numbers.
And I think they're staggering.
A 58% increase in the number of African Americans on food stamps, 20% increase, number of African Americans out of the labor force.
African American home ownership rate is down.
It's 20% lower than the national average.
African unemployment rate, 8.1%.
National average, 4.9%.
Wage gap between African Americans and white workers is the worst in 40 years.
Median household income for African Americans is $20,000 less than the national average.
The African American poverty rate is 24.1%.
That's over 10% higher than the national average.
Then you look at crime statistics.
For example, this year alone in Obama's hometown of Chicago, 3,100 people have been shot.
This year alone, since he's been president, 3,660 people have been murdered.
And I doubt anybody listening right now can name one single person killed there because I guess it didn't fit his narrative like the Cambridge police and Trayvon Martin and Ferguson and Freddie Gray.
And then on top of that, you have an educational system where the graduation rates from high school 9% lower for African Americans than the national average.
High school dropout rate African Americans is also higher than the national average.
And, you know, we pay more money per student.
We're fourth in the world and yet 17th in reading, 19th in science, and 26th in math.
We spend $11,600 per student.
Now, do you see a correlation between unrest, unhappiness, and the fact that people are worse off to a major degree than they were eight years ago?
And one final question.
Do you see the correlation?
And do you believe that maybe this is an opportunity for the black community to reconsider the Democratic Party that basically shows up every four years and then walks away and comes back the next four years?
Well, I mean, I think, first of all, it depends on how dedicated Trump turns out to be to doing this over and over again and how rapidly he's willing to learn.
I mean, one of the great problems, and this may surprise you, but one of the great problems for white conservatives who really want to find a way to include the black community and find a way to work with African American leaders is that the experience of being black in America is different.
It includes slavery.
This is where this new museum is going to be very important.
It's not just symbolic.
It includes slavery.
It includes segregation.
It includes continuous discrimination.
And so when you wake up in the morning, if you're an African-American, even if you're successful, you have this constant sense of not quite being an insider, not quite being totally accepted.
And I think that the more he goes to churches, the more he goes to visit black businesses, the more he meets with black leaders, people like Kay James, who had been an extraordinary leader, director of the Office of Personnel for the entire federal government, head of welfare reform for Governor George Allen.
These are folks who can really, I think, help him reach an understanding and a tone and a language that could lead to a remarkable break in the black community.
Because the morning it becomes acceptable to say we ought to consider Donald Trump.
I mean, the day somebody walk into the local coffee shop and say, you know, I'm really seriously looking at Donald Trump, and it's not just an act of weirdness, but it's, yeah, that's really worth thinking about, the Democratic Party's base is going to shatter.
They have to use fear, dishonesty, smears, lies to try to keep above 90% support in the black community because they know if they don't get those huge margins coming out of the big cities, they're dead.
I mean, they will not be a competitive party for a generation.
But go back to the Reagan question.
Are you better off than you were eight years ago?
Exactly.
And Trump is very close to that.
I mean, when you're in a city like Chicago where somebody's shot every two hours, it's not irrational to say, what do you have to lose?
I mean, your schools currently fail your children.
There are no jobs in your neighborhood.
You're in danger of being shot every single day.
Your politicians all lie to you.
What have you got to lose by taking a try on somebody new who's at least reaching out and saying he'd like to help you?
And I do think that's going to gradually catch on.
I don't know what your experience was today.
And I know you were right there and that you're a part of this historic moment.
And I'm sure the show tonight is going to be amazing to watch because of the impact that how historic this effort is on Trump's part.
I like it.
And you know what?
I think it's long overdue.
And I think these numbers prove, you know, it's something that I've said.
Look, I remember back when Obama was running, and I felt like I was out here hanging on a limb like I do every election year, but I remember going over Frank Marshall Davis and Obama's mentor and looking at Alinskyite and rules for radicals and Acorn and what an organizer is and black liberation theology, which inspired him to join Reverend Wright's Church for 20 years and then Ayers and Dorn and other things.
And I just, my prediction was everything that he believed in was radical, rigid, and ideological, but it was ideological in a way that we have proven over and over again it doesn't work.
If you believe that conservatism is a way of life, and I do, conservative principles have got to be applied like Reagan did and like you did as Speaker to solve our problems, and that seems to be missing.
Well, and I think that's what you're seeing.
In all fairness, you're seeing it with Paul Ryan, who is putting together.
Please, I can't take it.
I'm not happy with Ryan.
Why no?
But you look at what he's trying to articulate.
It's the most thoughtful effort since we put together the contract to come up with real alternatives, real solutions.
And I predict he and Trump are going to turn out to be very productive working together.
At the same time, you have, I think, the country coming to a very serious decision.
And I have to say, when I heard what Hillary said the other day, it was almost exactly parallel to what she said at Benghazi.
I mean, the dishonesty of her reaction to New York and her effort to pin it on Trump was exactly parallel to her effort to pin Benghazi on the guy.
By the way, they were watching that in real time, and they know that mortars were used and RPGs were used.
And I'm thinking, oh, they just happen to have mortars in their back pocket while they were spontaneously demonstrating.
It was a busy weekend for people who magically showed up because they'd been so deeply offended by a movie they'd never seen.
I mean, the whole thing, and I think this is why Nassim Talib talks about intellectuals yet idiots.
I mean, Hillary is a perfect example of what he means by an intellectual yet idiot.
You can't be able to do that.
I've got a role, but are you coming back on the program tomorrow?
We need you tomorrow night.
Yes, I think I'm coming back on the program if you'll have me.
I mean, I don't know.
But they told us Friday, and I said, no, I want them Thursday.
You mean the TV show?
Yeah, the TV show.
I think we're doing both.
Okay, good.
All right, Mr. Speaker.
That's my hope, and I will double-check it with my leader, Woody Hales.
All right, 48 days to go.
Former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich.
Let's information you have on individuals there that you would have here.
But I would tell you a couple of things.
First of all, they're only the most vulnerable individuals.
Eight out of ten of the more than 10,000 Syrian refugees that we've admitted to the country are women and children.
And of the men that make up the remainder, most of them are connected to families.
Number two, they are going through a very serious interagency vetting process, the most that any refugee goes through.
Is it perfect?
Can it be perfect?
Can it be foolproof?
Well, probably not, no.
At the same time, we do have a system for allowing not just immigration, but refugee entrance into the country.
As the FBI director has noted, there is a process in place that allows for significant vetting of refugees from all countries.
Let me interrupt because he said something contrary with regard to the situation with Syrians.
He said, we can query our database till the cows come home, but there'll be nothing to show up because we have no record on that person.
Certainly, with respect to the databases that the director was referring to, as he noted, I believe, before this committee, there is a screening process that has data from several different agencies.
The FBI participates, Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security, National Terrorism Counter, National Counterterrorism Center, and much information is vetted and queried.
Certainly a lot of the information that is vetted does have to be inputted into the system.
In the case of Syria, you can't go to the government offices in that country.
They're in disarray.
You can't go interview people who know people who are applying for this status.
Do you disagree with the FBI director when he says that vetting Syrian refugees is extremely difficult, if not impossible.
Well, Mr. Chairman, I'm not sure he said it was impossible.
Certainly, not only the Department of Justice, but all of our agencies will make every effort to vet every refugee coming into this country, from the databases to the interviews that those individuals are subject to, to the biometric screening as well.
Let me go on.
Certainly, there are challenges to that process because of the situation in Syria.
But I would note, however, that we do have the benefit of having that significant and robust screening process in place, a process that Europe has not been able to set up, which renders them much more vulnerable.
Before this committee, Assistant Director Steinbeck said that the concerns in Syria is that we don't have the systems in place on the ground to collect the information to vet.
That would be the concern.
Databases don't hold the information on these individuals.
Is that still the position of the department?
Yes, I think that's the challenge we're all talking about: we can only query against that which we have collected.
And so, if someone has never made a ripple in the pond in Syria in a way that would get their identity or their interests reflected in our database, we can query our database until the cows come home, but we're not going to, there'll be nothing show up because we have no record on that person.
That's what Assistant Director Steinbach was talking about.
You can only query what you've collected.
And with respect to Iraqi refugees, we had far more in our databases because of our country's work there for a decade.
This is a different situation.
All right.
First, though, is John Kirby of the State Department.
Vetting process for Syrian refugees.
Well, it's not perfect.
It's not foolproof.
And then you got Loretta Lynn saying that the Obama administration has the ability to effectively screen refugees, going against what we just played from James Comey, that the U.S. government has no real way to conduct background checks on refugees.
Now, the reason we're bringing all of this up today, Life Set put it on their website with regard to Clinton's intention to increase refugees by 550%, that it is utterly incomprehensible that she has this as a stated goal, especially after Comey, who we just played, the FBI director, said that there's no way to vet them.
And John Brennan of the CIA, the director of the CIA, warned that ISIS would seek to embed terrorists in refugee flows.
And by the way, Michael Steinbeck, the assistant FBI director, and the House Homeland Security Committee chair Mike McCall and the former special envoy to defeat ISIS have all said the same thing.
Anyway, joining us to discuss is Congressman Brian Babbin of Texas, Pete Hegseth.
He's an infantry officer in the Army and National Guard in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Vet, author of In the Arena, Good Citizens, A Great Republic, and How One Speech Can Reinvigorate America.
He also hosts Fox and Friends.
How do you like doing that, Pete?
Yeah, not too bad.
Can't complain.
Try to follow your playbook.
Oh, stop it.
And Ami Horowitz is with us, the absolute insane documentarian who does all sorts of nutty things, like he got on a boat with a lot of the refugees to infiltrate the community, and he found that a lot of them were radicalized.
This, of course, being in Europe.
How are you, Ami?
I'm doing well.
I'm actually hanging out with the refugees here in Sweden.
Let me play Barack Obama at the UN yesterday, saying in the fiscal year, the U.S. will welcome and resettle 110,000 refugees.
Listen to this.
We've also been working with the World Bank to create new financing facilities to assist countries hosting refugees, build schools, and economic opportunities.
As part of these efforts, the United States will contribute at least $50 million to help middle-income countries, and will do more to help low-income countries so that refugees and their host communities can flourish and go stronger together.
The refugees in places like Ecuador or Kenya don't always get as much attention as some of the recent migrations.
But they need help, too, and that's part of our goal here.
Collectively, our nations are roughly doubling the number of refugees that we admit to our countries to more than 360,000 this year.
Again, I want to especially commend Germany, Canada, Austria, the Netherlands, and Australia for their continued leadership, as well as countries like Argentina and Portugal for their new commitments.
Today, I'm proud to announce that the United States will continue our leadership role in the coming fiscal year starting next week.
The United States will welcome and resettle 110,000 refugees from around the world, which is a nearly 60 percent increase over 2050.
We intend to do it right, and we will do it safely.
Congressman Babin, maybe it's just me, but if Comey and Steinbeck and Clapper and Brennan and McCall and General Allen all say ISIS is going to infiltrate, why the hell are we taking these people in?
That's a great question, Sean.
Great to be with you and join with Amy and Pete.
Our president is willing to subordinate our national security to further his agenda of bringing in tens of thousands of improperly vetted and screened refugees.
And what this is doing, he wants to sound like he's so compassionate for these folks.
And what he forgets is we're all compassionate for people who are being displaced.
And that's why we're paying a lot of money to these U.N. refugee camps over there.
That's why we can help 12 refugees in these camps with our financial help for every one that we bring over here as a refugee on the path to citizenship.
And I just, it's amazing to me, Sean, that this man is so willfully blind that he would endanger the lives of our citizens, our grandchildren.
Well, he's not going to be at risk, Congressman, and Hillary's not going to be at risk.
I mean, they've got all the protection that money can buy.
I mean, Hillary just gives a speech, and she has enough security for two years with making it.
That's why I've introduced this letter so that we can try to get this language of my bill into a must-pass spending bill, and we're hoping to get that done.
Pete, look, you're a former infantry officer in the Army and an Iraq and Afghanistan veteran.
You know the mindset of this enemy, and they are very well funded now.
They're very well organized.
And it seems to me to be really just common, simple sense that we don't gamble with the lives of the American people and take in people that we are top intelligence officers are saying we cannot possibly vet that we will end up.
You know, Donald Trump Jr. got in trouble with the Skittles analogy.
He said, all right, well, there's a big box of Skittles, and if you take three and they'll kill you, would you take the risk?
You know, and he wasn't, the fact that people took this the wrong way is absurd to me.
It's called an analogy for crying out loud.
Wake up.
And what he was saying is, we all know that Skittles aren't people.
I mean, we get that.
We're not stupid.
But the reality is, is if let's say we take in the 110 extra thousand that Obama wants, and let's say 10 of them are ISIS, how many Americans are they going to kill?
And are we willing to take that chance?
As many as they can, especially if we have an enemy who's declared they will use that as a tactic and have already used that tactic successfully.
But the other aspect of the nature of our enemy that we oftentimes miss is they have a long-term view.
They take a decades-long view of how they infiltrate and eventually take advantage of open societies who say they want to welcome people who are displaced, and then ultimately they come in, establish relationships, and continue to radicalize and grow and create future vulnerabilities.
I mean, the unfortunate reality is my home state of Minnesota is a preview of these types of things with the problems we had with unassimilated Somali Muslim populations who have been there for decades and fled civil war, but now the second generation, the kids of those refugees, don't necessarily feel the same allegiance to the state in our country as we should, and we're seeing problems of them being a problem.
Hillary Clinton took in 33,000.
I mean, all told, since 9-11, 2001, we've taken in 100,000 Somali refugees.
You know, let's take a case, if I can ask Ami Horowitz there, we'll take the case of Syrian refugees.
I mean, I think most Americans understand that we don't want innocent people suffering and getting caught in the middle of a civil war.
And I think most Americans would be willing to pony up some money, some taxpayer dollars, and create safe zones and provide food and water and medicine and blankets and cots and baby formula and supplies.
But let's put it in a safe zone within their own country so eventually they get to go back to their own home where I would assume they want to be.
Absolutely.
And I think you hit on a great point.
I'm more than happy to provide funding to Jordan and to Turkey to make sure that they can create a comfortable environment for those refugees until there is time for them to go back to Syria.
But the problem is, you know, the vetting issue is an interesting one, but it might actually miss the point.
Yes, there's absolutely no possible way to joke.
We can't vet these people, clearly.
But there's a bigger problem, and Pete just hit upon it, which is the reality, unfortunately, is there is a consistent and dangerous disregard of American values by these refugees, and that's why they are not able to self-integrate.
It's not that we're not able to help them integrate.
We're trying our damnedest here in the U.S.
They don't want to self-integrate.
So the problem becomes not the refugees themselves, although it clearly might be a problem if you look at Europe, but the problem for us here in the U.S. is their kids are more radical than their parents.
Well, that's what P was saying.
Well, let me ask you this.
Tell everybody about the trip that you took.
And from what I understand, you're actually in Sweden now because there's a rape epidemic going on there because of the migrant crisis.
We saw Angela Merkel take a big hit in terms of the election that took place in Berlin.
And the Anti-Borders Party did phenomenally.
The Nationalist Party did phenomenally well.
So what did you do?
Yeah, because two important takeaways from that trip I took to Turkey.
Takeaway number one was that when I was walking the streets of Izmir where all these refugees gather before they get on these rickety rafts and to cross over what I did with them into Greece, is that I saw ISIS recruiters in Izmir trying to recruit these refugees.
This is an open secret in Turkey.
This is not something that you've got to dig real deep to find out.
And even more interesting than that is that, yeah, you know what?
I feel terrible for them.
But the reality is, these are all males 15 to 50.
And when you ask them, as I did, why did you leave Syria?
Why are you going to Germany?
Their answer was almost across the board exclusively because I want more opportunity.
I want jobs.
Which means that we do not have a moral obligation to bring them in.
It's an economic migration, not necessarily when they're running for their lives.
That's why they're not bringing their kids in with them.
Well, that's why I think that Angela Merkel's party suffered the biggest hit since World War II.
What are you doing in Sweden now?
Tell us what you're investigating.
So, like I said, I've spent time with the refugees in Germany, in France, in Belgium, in the U.S., and now I went to Sweden because Sweden, where rape was almost unknown 10, 15 years ago, the rape epidemic now, and it is epidemic, is monumental.
Sweden now has the second highest per capita rate of rapes in the world.
Not in Europe, in the world.
And it's almost exclusively done by immigrants.
And the sad part is, and the scary part is that the Swedish people have their head in the sand, and the government is actively trying to hide those numbers of rapes and who's committing them.
And it's sad and it's terrible.
What percentage of these rapes that are taking place?
And we all heard what happened, what was it, Christmas Eve or New Year's Eve of this past year.
What percentage is happening by these immigrants?
So the last time the Swedish, so every few years, Sweden has a crime statistic they put out.
The last one they put out before the most recent one showed that almost 75% of all rapes were done by Islamic immigrants.
Interestingly, the last crime statistic they put out pulled out from those statistics the background of the rapists.
So we don't know what the percentage is today because they refuse to show it.
Congressman Babbin, I want to go back to your Republican Party.
I think you know me well enough to know I'm not exactly thrilled with Republicans in Congress right now, but there are a few people like yourself that I happen to like and that are trying to do some good work here.
I would think that every Republican would be signing on to your bill and trying to support the things you're doing.
Is that happening, or am I just fantasizing in la-la land here?
Well, we've got 86 co-sponsors on my bill, 11, excuse me, 33, 14.
And we were significantly.
And how many Republicans are in the Congress now?
Yeah, 247.
Yeah.
That's true.
Yeah, that's a good point, Hannity.
And let me guess, what percentage of the Freedom Caucus members signed on to it?
You know, I couldn't tell you, but a great percentage of them.
Exactly.
So I'm going to have to run.
But I just want to thank you, and I hope people will sign on.
Is there any place people could contact their congressman or what?
You know what they need to do is tell their connect your congressman and tell them that we want refugee halting of the refugees until we can properly.
And the way we can do that in 48 days is get to Donald Trump.
Pete, also, great job on Fox and Friends.
Thank you, sir.
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This is what, when you don't get your justice, we don't get a redress for our grief, and we don't get justice.
This is what you see, and you're going to see more of that.
We're not telling our brothers and sisters to stop.
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Well, we ain't getting no justice.
All right, news roundup information overload hour here on the Sean Hannity show.
Some of the sounds of the eruption last night, the riots last night, after black cop shot an armed black suspect.
Now, originally, they were saying that he was not armed.
In fact, the police confirmed today that he was, among other things.
One of the things I think we've got to ask ourselves when you have a movement like the Black Lives Matter movement and what do we want dead cops and when do we want them now and pigs in a blanket and fry them like bacon and their leaders get invited numerous times to the Oval Office in the White House with the president and Hillary Clinton, of course, gives them an audience and seeks out their advice and their counsel on criminal justice matters.
One has to question what's going on here.
Anyway, more protests planned for tonight.
We'll be watching closely.
Of course, we have our Our Town Hall with Donald Trump addressing issues in the black community.
And we'll be getting into all of these topics and much, much more.
Anyway, here to go through all of this.
We have Horace Cooper, legal commentator, co-chair of the Project 21 and Organization of Black Americans.
Also, Mercedes Cohen is a litigator, attorney.
By the way, she's a shark and a Fox News contributor.
Welcome both of you back to the program.
I say that in the most complimentary way, by the way, Mercedes, because if I ever get in trouble, I'm going straight to you.
Oh, you're too kind.
Hopefully, you'll never need me, Sean.
Yeah, by the way, Russell Mills joins us too, an anchor reporter from our affiliate in Oklahoma.
There's been some mixed stories about what happened down in Oklahoma.
We checked in with one of our sources on the ground there, and apparently there's some issues involving the dash cam video that only works when the front lights are turned on, and when rear hazard lights are turned on, as the case in this situation that happened down there, since it was a traffic hazard, the camera did not turn on or engage.
Anyway, Russell, why don't we start with you?
What's going on down there?
Well, we're finding out that Reverend Al Sharpton and the National Action Network have planned a couple rallies, one in New York and one here in Tulsa on Tuesday that will be the Tulsa rally.
The family has been very consistent.
We're talking about Terrence Crutcher's family about urging people to remain calm.
But there have been protests, several of them, in various areas of the city.
There are a couple of church services planned for this evening.
In fact, the city council canceled their Wednesday night meeting because a lot of them planned to go out to some of these church services.
It's a red ball here in Tulsa, Sean.
I'll tell you that.
But what's kind of interesting to me is we've got a case that's barely clear cut of an unarmed black man being shot by police.
That's just the fact.
And yet we've had no rioting.
We've had no burning.
We've had no looting, nothing like that.
And I have to say that's definitely a positive development for Tulsa, unlike what we've seen on the state.
What do we know about the person shot here and the movements that he made?
And did it appear that he was reaching for something or trying to retrieve something from the car?
Well, that was the contention of the attorney for the officer, Betty Shelby, who fired that fatal shot, that he was reaching in the car.
And yesterday, the attorneys for the Crutcher family made it pretty clear they've got video.
They've blown up frames of the video that show blood on the window of the car.
So the windows of the SUV were definitely closed.
Now, there is a point where you can see he kind of, his hands seemed to lower a little bit.
And I'm sure the contention is going to be, well, maybe he was reaching for a weapon in there.
But Police Chief Chuck Jordan made it very clear Monday when he addressed this issue that no weapon was found on Mr. Crutcher or in the car.
Which makes this very different from the North Carolina case because the original reporting said that the person was unarmed.
On the other hand, I understand that in this particular case, that Mr. Crutcher apparently has a long criminal history and appeared to be under the influence, or so the police are charging and had an alternative.
Well, I will tell you, I've looked up his history, and I'm not seeing a long criminal history.
At least we have something called the OSCN, the Oklahoma Supreme Court Network.
I was able to find a protective order from 12 years ago that was dismissed.
I found a couple of financial things.
There's no violent criminal history for Mr. Crutcher that I've been able to uncover.
How many warrants were out for his arrest?
None.
Well, I read that there was numerous warrants out for his arrest, including one assault on an officer and drug trafficking.
Are those reports incorrect?
As far as I know, they are.
I've not seen any reporting on any warrants for Mr. Crutcher, and I certainly haven't uncovered any myself.
And there has been some misinformation floated.
And I will tell you, we had a homicide detective say yesterday that they found some drugs in the car.
That may or may not be the case.
Our source said as much there, too, that they were found in his possession.
But you know what?
Are things again?
We have a source within the department that has given us some information, so I guess it's a matter of time of when they're going to release this information.
So we'll have to wait and see.
You know, Mercedes, we've seen many of these cases now, high-profile cases.
Do you in any way see that there is a connection in terms of the embracing of the Black Lives Matter movement, the economic decline, especially disproportionately impacting black Americans the last eight years under President Obama, impacting a lot of what's going on in inner cities?
You know, so it's such a shame because a lot of the inner cities are reacting that way.
There is a disproportionate number of unemployment amongst people of color.
And so there's a desperation, economic desperation.
Then there's this universal distrust, unfortunately, for law enforcement.
And frankly, what a thankless job to be a police officer these days.
They're giving their lives for the communities.
They're out there walking the beat.
They're trying to secure the communities, make them safer, and yet they're being targeted.
And when they react, and frankly, we weren't there.
We're not the officers that are in the scene.
We are not in their minds.
We don't know what they're reacting to.
We don't know what their thoughts were right before the shots were fired.
But these are individuals that had a lot of training.
They know that it is a stressful situation.
They're making split-second decisions.
And now we're quarterbacking and saying, well, you may have made the wrong decision.
Maybe you didn't see the way things were.
These officers that pulled the trigger both said, we honestly felt sincerely that our lives were in danger.
That's why we reacted with Deathney Force.
We're not out there.
We're not vigilantes.
We are police officers, law enforcement with a lot of training, here to secure and make sure that they secure the communities and make sure that individuals are safe.
And unfortunately, there are a lot of extraneous factors that are leading to this distrust amongst people of color towards law enforcement, and a lot of it has to do with the economy.
You know, we have 3,660 Chicago residents killed since Obama's been president.
We have, this year alone, over 3,100 people have been shot in Chicago.
The vast majority are African American.
We don't know the names of any of these people.
And one has to wonder if we only hear about the Cambridge police, Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, Ferguson, Freddie Gray, or an instance where there's only cops involved.
Why is that Horace Cooper?
Yeah, it shouldn't surprise you and your listeners that the Department of Justice has announced that they're going to be investigating the shooting that took place in Charlotte.
And I imagine we will see something similar in Oklahoma.
And yet, there is no announcement with regard to the massacre that's taking place in Chicago.
Now, I also want to highlight a second concern that I have.
We see Saturday night, I'm watching football, and suddenly I see an alert on Twitter that something has happened in New York City.
Every effort was made by the leadership in New York City, including the mayor, which I think was a little embarrassing, to downplay the seriousness of this, to give people the space to operate and learn.
We are doing exactly the opposite in these cases.
There is a rush to judgment.
The claim is a white guy shot a black man.
It turns out in both cases that wasn't true.
In one case, it was a woman, in the other case, it was a black officer.
These narratives are ramped up, thrown out, and then they exploit grievances that already exist within the black community.
Way, just so you know, Russell Mills, my source that I have down in Oklahoma has actually sent me the arrest record and the warrants that are existing.
I mean, you got warrants for assault, larceny, drugs, liquor, drinking, weapons, all on file.
I'm surprised you can't find them.
I'll be glad to maybe put you in contact with our sources, but I think you've got to dig a little deeper.
You know, Ford does to me because one of the problems has been alternative spellings of Mr. Crutcher's name, and that has complicated some of the reporting.
Well, the spelling is C-R-U-T-C-H-E-R.
Right, talking about the first name.
Well, I'm talking about, yeah, I'm talking about Terrence Crutcher.
Tafford is the middle name.
Birthdate, I don't know if I should give this out on radio, but you know.
Well, that's okay.
Well, don't necessarily do that, but I will tell you, please do.
What his family is saying is what he's done in the past, what he was doing that night, wasn't necessarily germane at the moment when that officer pulled the trigger.
She didn't have those records in front of her.
She didn't know what was in the car.
But to be fair, and I spoke with our senator, James Lankford, about this yesterday.
He said, you know, people should not rush to ascribe motives to this officer.
We don't know what was going through her mind.
We have no evidence that this man was shot because he was black or that she's racist or anything like that.
And that is why everybody needs to take a breath and let the investigation take its course.
And to that gentleman's point a moment ago, yes, the U.S. Attorney's Office was called by the police chief, by Chuck Jordan.
He asked them to do a parallel investigation.
He wants somebody looking over his shoulder.
He wants to make sure that I got to let you all go here.
Mercedes, we'll give you the last word.
Go ahead.
No, I mean, I think there has to be a slowing down of what's going on around us.
And frankly, it's not just Black Lives Matter, it's Blue Lives Matter.
It's every color matters.
And when these types of occurrences occur, we just have to slow it down, do the proper investigation, let the investigators do their job, and let people get to the bottom line.
That is the best thing that anybody says.
That is out there to be a vigilante.
These people put their lives on the line for us.
We have to give them their due respect.
They deserve the presumption of innocence, also.
All right.
Thank you all for being with us.
All right, 48 days America lives or dies.
And when you consider the stakes and the dramatic differences between these two candidates, it's pretty true, right?
Supreme Court vetting refugees, saying or not saying radical Islam.
Let's see what else we got.
Massive differences in economic plans.
One wants to cut taxes, dramatically stimulate growth, allow multinational corporations to bring back the trillions of dollars, energy independence or energy dependence.
We're going to build the wall.
We're not going to build the wall.
We'll build a bridge so anybody can come over anytime they feel like.
Education back to the states or top-down NEA-supported Common Core.
I mean, it's dramatic.
It's just a dramatic option.
And one will lead to America's continued decline, if not worse, and the other hopefully will turn the ship around.
I happened to catch a report last night, NBC Nightly News, hosted, by the way, by presidential debate moderator, Democrat Lester Holt, which extolled the virtues of flooding America with Syrian refugees.
And as I pointed out, Obama is now saying, yeah, we need 100 and some odd thousand more, and Hillary wants a 550% increase, even though many have values that directly contradict our own constitutional values.
Anyway, the report insisted these refugees are already subjected to a foolproof vetting system.
And once they get here, they almost always become patriotic pillars of the community.
Meanwhile, we have brand new polling today that by a landslide margin, you, the American people, oppose Obama's plan to import 100,000 plus 110,000 more refugees, particularly Syrian refugees.
Now, I'm sure the Presidential Debate Commission had no idea how far out of the mainstream NBC News anchor Lester Holt was when they picked him to moderate the first Trump-Hillary face-off.
Voters strongly oppose Obama's plan to bring 110,000 Middle Eastern and African refugees to the country next year, up from 85,000 this year.
And, of course, Hillary wants a 550% increase.
74% of likely voters oppose increasing the number.
You think?
It's probably even higher.
One good piece of news, looks like the Never Trump movement is finally dying, dead, buried.
Only a few stragglers that work at NRO and work at the Wall Street Journal and work for Mitt Romney surviving and hanging out.
But anyway, Republican support for Donald Trump is now at an all-time high for him.
GOP voters are now just as unified behind Trump as Democrats are behind Hillary, according to the Huffington Post, polling average.
Republican voters who had previously withheld their support for Trump have come around recently, and Trump has managed to gain six percentage points among Republicans since mid-August, and he's on an upward trend.
Clinton has typically enjoyed an advantage against Trump in the polls, partly because she polled a greater percentage of the party's vote than Trump did, and her support among Democrats has been relatively stable throughout the general election.
But, you know, Donald Trump now has 83%, the same level that Hillary does.
All right, let's get to our busy telephones as we say hi to George in Cleveland Heights, Ohio, the site of our town hall with Donald Trump tonight, and that's Pastor Darrell Scott's church, and I've been invited to preach there, and I can't wait.
How are you, George?
I'm sure you do.
There are a lot of nice restaurants on Lee Road that you can enjoy.
Is there anything better?
You know, is there anything better than a nice lunch, dinner, whatever you're going to eat after Sunday church?
Is there anything that tastes better in the world?
No.
And if you come, I would be happy to buy you lunch.
Yeah, Kenny Chesney has a song in the smell of Sunday chicken after church.
It's a great idea.
I'm telling you, there's nothing better.
I remember when my father would take us to Mass and we'd get in trouble the whole time, and it was so embarrassing.
My father would usually work late.
He was waiting tables and stuff most of my young years in life.
And he'd get home at like 5 or 6 in the morning and then take us to like 11 o'clock Mass.
And it's so embarrassing.
My father would fall asleep every single Sunday.
And he'd be like, when I go to Mass, I used to go to Mass, and there was a good priest friend of ours, and there was another priest who would also say Mass at our church who was a Benedictine monk.
And we would go to breakfast after church.
Yeah.
Our priest friend was a very liberal liberal, and he never worked a day in his life.
Our friend, the Benedictine monk, was as conservative as conservative.
And here he was living in the communist community.
That's funny.
And he taught at the local Benedictine high school.
You know, but after church, we'd beg my father and say, come on, Dad, please.
Can we go to Wesson's and get some french fries?
Please, please, please.
And he thought it was the biggest pain in his ass.
But, you know, every once in a while he'd give in.
Well, I hope you enjoyed the stay in Cleveland Heights, which is not part of what you're doing.
Yeah, no, it is.
It's beautiful there, and I'm a big fan of Pastor Scott, and he's a good man, and the members of his church, his community are wonderful people, and it's a great honor.
It really was.
And I'm surprised that you were I hope you were well received because it is a bastion of liberalism.
Extraordinarily.
But you know something?
This drives me nuts as a conservative.
That conservatives, they're racist.
They're sexist.
They're homophobic.
They're misogynistic.
They're xenophobic, Islamophobic.
And we're hearing this from a lady who takes millions of dollars from countries that abuse women, kill gays and lesbians, and literally persecute Christians and Jews.
And I'm like, I got to be lectured by her.
Well, that is how I feel.
You also aware that Cleveland Heights is the hometown of Congressman Daryl Issa?
I do know that.
Yes.
Yes.
He's a good guy.
He's a great guy.
Yeah, I went to high school with him.
Yeah.
So, well, Sean, I love your show.
I listen to you on the internet because you aren't in our city.
Well, we're in your city.
Well, we're not in your exact city, but we are in Cleveland and WTAM, but we're delayed there.
Wouldn't have even been on WTM.
How delayed are you?
I forget the time off the top of my head.
Linda, can you tell me?
Very few stations delay the show, but that's one of them.
Well, I enjoy your show.
I met you when you were at the RNC because I was one of the workers.
So thank you for coming.
Well, I appreciate it.
You know what?
I got a really good time.
We had a wonderful week in Cleveland.
And, you know, Cleveland, Ohio is a lot like, and by the way, Dennis Kucinich is from there.
He was the mayor there for a while.
And I actually like Kucinich.
I mean, he's a pretty thoughtful guy.
And I don't agree with everything he says, but I like him.
He's a personable guy, and his family is wonderful.
But anyway, I appreciate your hospitality.
Thanks for having us back.
And we really appreciate it.
Anyway, Matt in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Matt, how are you?
And thank you for coming to the program.
I have since, since this reporter was on, I knew I had this information, but there is a ton of warrants out on this guy.
Yeah, you're right, Sean.
Actually, while I was listening to you, listening to him talk about his investigative reporting, I pulled it up on Oklahoma Supreme Court Network this morning.
And I think they have it spelt incorrectly.
It's T-E-R-A-N-B-E Tafford Crutcher is what they have it spelt on the OSEN.
And when you look at that, there's eight criminal charges, the most recent being back in 2013.
All of them have drug-related issues, and one of which, I believe, the 2006, actually has where he has, read it off to you real quick, assault and battery upon a police officer.
He's got a whole lot of warrants out for his arrest, and I think that does add context and texture.
And I'd ask people in Tulsa, just like I'd ask the people in Charlotte, you know, don't rush to judgment.
Let's wait and see.
I mean, the first report I heard out of Charlotte was, oh, well, there's a guy who's unarmed, shot, you know, needlessly, and he was carrying a book.
Well, that turned out not to be true, just like the initial reports about Michael Brown turned out not to be true.
You're exactly right.
And that's the thing is, you know, nobody should be rushing to judgment without all the facts being out on the table.
Yeah, I mean, a lot of people thought that, you know, George Zimmerman, the cowboy, was out there as a wannabe cop, and lo and behold, you have an eyewitness that saw Trayvon grounding and pounding his head into cement, and we heard him screaming for his life.
You're exactly right.
All right, buddy.
Thank you for the update.
We appreciate it.
Tampa, Florida, 970, WFLA.
What's up, Dave?
How are you?
Doing great.
How are you?
I'm good, sir.
What's going on?
I just wanted to make a comment.
Earlier you gave some great statistics, as you generally do, about the number of unemployed, homeless, et cetera, in this nation.
And I think you gave the number of somewhere 40 to 50 million homeless people in this country.
No, I don't remember that.
Let me pull out my sheet here, one of many.
I gave a lot of statistics out.
What I said is we have the lowest home ownership rate in 51 years.
I did say that the African-American home ownership rate is down since Obama's been president, more than 20% lower than the national average.
I did say the poverty rate in the black community is 24.1%.
That's over 10% higher than the national average.
I did say since Obama has been president, the black community has seen a 58% increase of black Americans on food stamps, 20% jump in the number of black Americans who are not participating in the labor force.
Home ownership rate is down.
Unemployment is 8.1% in the black community.
National average is 4.9%.
So they have been disproportionately negatively impacted.
And, you know, I know everyone's paying attention to Oklahoma and everyone's paying attention to Charlotte, and that's in the news, but over 3,100 people have been shot in Chicago this year alone.
And since Obama has been president, 3,660 people have been murdered, and Obama never talks about it because it doesn't, I guess, fit into whatever narrative he's pushing.
No, and simply, I think they think that the bulk of the people here are unintelligent.
I just think it's disingenuous and politically incorrect to suggest that we have all of the homeless in this country, all of the unemployed in this country, yet somehow we're going to be able to feed, clothe, employ, and provide shelter to 300 to 400,000 refugees.
When you think of all the people that liberals want to take into this country, 11, look, let's say we keep the borders open.
Hillary says, I want to build bridges, not walls.
Okay, so we have open borders.
Open borders, what does that mean?
We have at least, it's estimated to be 11, 12 million illegal immigrants in the country now.
8, 9 million of them work.
Well, there's 95 million Americans out of the labor force.
So what do we have?
More competition for fewer and fewer jobs, driving wages down dramatically.
And the people that have been disproportionately impacted by that, again, are black Americans.
And the more that they are given, the more they vote for those that give.
Well, you know, Donald Trump, I think, is doing the right thing.
He's saying, I want your vote.
He goes, you can't do much worse.
But I think beyond that, he's talking about high-paying jobs in the energy industry.
He's trying to incentivize trillions of dollars to come back to the country and allow multinational corporations to bring that money they have parked overseas because they don't want to give it to our government.
And he's going to say, I'll let you bring it back at a 10% rate, but then use the money you've got and build factories and manufacturing centers here and build them in Wisconsin and build them in Detroit and build them in Ohio and build them in Pennsylvania and build them in the industrial Midwest.
I mean, put those people.
You know, it's sad.
You go to Flint, Michigan, and Donald Trump says, you know, it used to be that we made cars in Flint and, you know, you had bad water in Mexico.
Now you've got the cars being built in Mexico and bad water in Flint.
It's sad.
But it does capture a moment of how profound this decline has been.
It's not been good for American workers.
And putting Americans first is not a bad idea.
It's a great idea to do that.
Thank you for what you're doing.
All right, my friend.
Thank you.
Back to our phones.
Let us say hi to Elaine in Philly, WPHT.
Hello.
Hey, Collins.
How are you doing?
I'm good.
How are you?
Good.
I said, talk about this North Carolina, again, these riots.
When are we going to deem Black Lives Matter to be a terrorist group?
You know, I don't know what words.
All I know is when I hear a group of people say, what do we want dead cops and when do we want them now, or pigs in a blanket fry them like bacon, I certainly don't think they belong getting invitations to Obama's White House or into Hillary Clinton's campaign, and both those things have happened.
Well, can we focus on the people that terrorized last night?
Can we focus on the truck drivers who they looted, almost killed, set fires?
Can we focus on the Americans who had nothing to do with this?
That's a terrorist act, and it's a pattern now.
And if Hillary thinks that everything's great in this country, then she's whacked out.
I mean, she, and we know she's whacked out.
But we, I want to know what Loretta Lynch, what the Homeland Security are doing, what the unions and the truck drivers, the unions for the police officers, the people that represent us, what are they going to do about these groups that when they hear something that they don't even have?
If any Republican, any Republican hung out with any group that said anything similar, you'd hear about it every day.
