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Aug. 16, 2016 - Sean Hannity Show
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All right, 85 days till election day.
A lot of ground to cover today.
We'll get to all of it.
Of course, the events, tragedy going on in Milwaukee the last two nights.
We'll be doing the TV show from there.
But first, we'll just dip in.
Donald Trump, Republican nominee, giving a speech on foreign policy and defeating ISIS.
And a neighbor saw suspicious behavior.
Bombs on the floor and other things.
But didn't warn authorities because they said they didn't want to be accused of racial profiling.
Now, many are dead and many more are gravely wounded.
The shooter in Orlando reportedly celebrated in his classroom after 9-11.
He too was interviewed by the FBI.
His father, a native of Afghanistan, supported the oppressive Taliban regime and expressed anti-American views very strongly.
And by the way, was just seen sitting behind Hillary Clinton with a big fat smile on his face all the way through her speech.
He obviously liked what she had to say.
It's called weakness.
Weakness.
It's called stupidity.
And we've had it pretty powerful comments by Donald Trump.
You know, there's so much narrative going on, and I've addressed the issue of Republican sabotage of Trump.
And, you know, for all that you hear, and I'm just going to give you a preview of some of what we're going to get to today.
What this election ought to be about is the direction of the country.
It ought to be about the future.
I mean, all elections should be the peace, prosperity, about creating a better country for our kids and our grandkids.
I don't think it's any more complicated than that.
You know, I keep giving you a list of statistics every day how bad things are.
We've got 12 million more Americans in poverty, 8 million more.
I'm sorry, 12 million more on food stamps, 12 million people.
That's 12 million lives disrupted.
A 58% increase black Americans on food stamps.
We've got the lowest labor participation rate since the 70s.
Okay, it's 2016 now, a long time ago.
You know, you add to that 8 million more in poverty.
Well, you know what it's like to live in poverty?
You know how bad your life is living in poverty?
It stinks.
You know, that's not the American dream.
A 51-year low in terms of the home ownership rate in the country.
People can't afford homes.
Old people are being pushed out because of higher taxes, and younger people can't afford their first home anymore because there's no jobs available.
You know, if you look at the number of men aged 18 to 34, they're either one in six are incarcerated or they're out of the labor force living in mommy and daddy's basement.
I'm sure it's not where they want to be watching daytime TV shows like Jerry Springer.
I mean, it's a national catastrophe and a disaster.
Worst recovery since the 40s.
That's not a recovery.
That is a disaster.
The only president that won't ever reach 3% GDP growth in a single year of his presidency.
And yet, this is what Hillary's running on.
And for all of the never-Trumpers out there, you know, national review types, the arrogant Wall Street Journal, Craig Shirley tweeted out this weekend, and I'm so glad that he did.
And he's a Reagan biographer, knows and studied Reagan more than anybody else that I know out there.
I may even bring him on later this week to talk about this.
Is the Wall Street Journal attack Reagan all the time?
And I'm not comparing myself to Reagan.
I'm only saying they've been wrong a lot.
And those that want, you know, many Republicans don't want to build the wall either because they want the cheap labor.
I mean, think about it.
That's pretty sad.
And Trump just says new immigration policies are needed immediately, and he's right.
We're taking in refugees that every single intelligence official in this country is warning us not to take in because we cannot properly vet them.
But we're taking them in anyway.
And Trump says there's a better way to handle this.
They're called safe zones, provide food and medicine and baby formula, supplies, and security, and cots and blankets and pillows and take care of everybody.
We feel bad for the victims of a civil war through no fault of their own.
They've been displaced.
We're a compassionate country.
We've always been a compassionate country.
But at the end of the day, that list of failures, and I haven't even talked about Iraq and Syria and Russia and Egypt and Libya and North Africa and the rise of ISIS.
I mean, all of this happened vis-a-vis Hillary and Obama.
It's been a disaster.
You look at what's happening, for example, in Milwaukee.
I'll play you the sounds of what has happened and been going on the last two nights.
How much of that can be linked back to communities where the educational system is horrid.
And yet the Democratic Party has this mysterious reluctance and resistance to do anything that will improve the educational prospects of kids stuck in inner city schools.
That's a big deal.
Well, that's a profound difference in this campaign.
Trump wants local towns, communities, states to make their own educational decisions.
Hillary supports the NEA, top-down, Common Core, where we pay more per capita than any industrialized country for education, but yet we come in, what, 35th place in terms of education overall.
This election, in spite of all of the noise and the chatter out there, ought to be about the differences in the type of Supreme Court justices both Donald Trump would appoint versus what Hillary would appoint.
Hillary wants activist judges, you know, like Kagan and Soda Mayor and others.
And Donald Trump has laid out a list of people that support the originalist philosophy that have fidelity to the Constitution, a belief in separation of powers and co-equal branches of government where it's not the role of the court to legislate.
And activist judges, Hillary supports those that would legislate from the bench.
That will impact this country for generations, all of you never Trumpers, that in the end, look, at the end of the day, you know, you will be responsible for the appointment of Hillary's Supreme Court justices if she wins.
I blame you.
You know, Hillary says, well, I want to put coal miners out of work, coal companies out of business.
Okay, Trump says he wants to expand coal mining, fracking, drilling, nuclear, and all the above.
Hillary, okay, she's going to keep us in the same position where we are today.
And that's dependent on countries that hate our guts that can literally raise the price of the lifeblood of our economy anytime they want.
That's a big difference.
So you got education back to the states.
You got energy independence, the type of Supreme Court justices.
Hillary's going to have $1.3 trillion in new taxes, $1.4 trillion in new spending.
Well, that makes a big difference in terms of creating an environment where our economy can grow.
Hillary wants Obamacare or some form thereof.
Trump has repeatedly said he'll replace it.
On national security, Trump wants a wall.
He wants the vetting of refugees.
You know, he actually doesn't have a problem saying radical Islam and destroying ISIS and bombing out of them.
We know where Hillary stands on the Second Amendment.
You know, we know where both of them stand on the military.
So there are profound, deep differences.
Now, I guess philosophically, if I were to offer Trump unsolicited advice, the only thing I'd say to him is this.
Stand by your platform, sell it, go out there every day and don't get distracted.
There's only two people he should ever mention as far as I'm concerned, Hillary and Obama.
And I'd list the state of our country, which is an absolute debacle under their ideology and philosophy.
And then I would compare it to the solutions he's offering in terms of immigration, refugees, rebuilding the military, education back to the states, energy independence, originalist justices, cutting taxes, reducing the size of government.
Better trade deals, replacing Obamacare, identifying evil in our time, radical Islam, protecting Second Amendment rights.
And, you know, for all of you that can't see that that's what this election is about, there's so many angry people out there.
And I assume a lot of this is rooted in an establishment that was bigger, more deeply rooted than anything I had ever imagined before in my life.
And that you've got this incestuous class in Washington of the pundits, the columnists, the reporters meeting with the staffs of congressmen and senators in the White House.
And they like to be invited to all the big parties.
And they go to dinner with each other and they drink with each other and they date each other and they do whatever else with each other.
I had no idea it was this incestuous, this screwed up, this deeply corrupt.
You know, but to get to the point where you're saying, well, all right, I'm going to reject Trump's agenda, then you have to understand that represents half a vote for the single most corrupt person that has enriched herself and her family more than anybody in the history of this country.
You have to accept that you're helping a congenital pathological liar.
You have to accept that this is what the outcome is going to be, and you get eventually the government that you deserve.
And that's just a fact.
Anyway, I'll establish a commission on radical Islam.
That's the big headline out of the Trump speech today.
Radical Islamic networks will be removed.
At least he can say it.
Hillary can't say it.
She doesn't want to offend anybody.
You know, I'm talking about the problems in the country.
You want to know, you look at, for example, Detroit.
You look at Baltimore.
You look at even Milwaukee.
Democratic Party owned, run, forever.
Listen to what has happened in the last two days.
They had a shooting of an armed, an armed young man who was black.
The officer was black.
And by the way, the president hasn't weighed in on this.
He's been mum after two nights of Milwaukee riots.
And anyway, the guy, apparently, the gun used in this had 23 rounds.
In the clip, apparently, he has a history of what 13 serious crimes he had committed.
Apparently, he turned towards the officer.
Apparently, there's tape of it.
And here's some of the sounds from Milwaukee the last two nights.
Man, that white person come down, Sherman.
P-P-Person!
Look at this light.
Look at the white hub.
Look at the white pub.
They're gonna start shooting.
Reverend Bullets and every mother army tanks coming down this young guy.
They not they say he's white.
1, 2, 3, 4 Come on, hang it up, like y'all look.
Keep up, keep up, keep up, keep up!
Don't burn it down.
We need him together.
Take that to the store.
We need our weed.
I don't wear it, but we need it.
It's sad because, you know, this will happen because they're not helping the black community.
Like, you know, the rich people, they got all this money and they're not like, you know, trying to give us none of this.
This making all this money and they're not giving us their money.
Let's, you know, take it, take that to the burn the suburbs down, meaning where the white people live.
And it goes on from there.
Black Lives Matter target whites.
Well, they're beating all the white people up.
They're white.
They're white.
Get their ass, screams another.
Hey, they're beating up every white person.
Is that a white person?
Is that a white person?
You know, America was never great there, chanting, hurling rocks at police officers.
And it goes on from there.
Now, we'll get to some of this, but to what extent have Democratic policies connected in any way to democratic policies that have failed inner-city America?
I would argue it's part of the problem.
It's part of the problem.
When you have a 58% increase under Barack Obama, America's first black president, black Americans on food stamps, something's wrong.
He hasn't helped the black community.
Liberalism always fails.
Hillary's liberalism will fail too.
It's that predictable.
But I know some of you anti-Trumpers can't get past the fact that you don't like that Donald Trump says a few offensive things.
It defies your sensibilities.
But that's not worse to you in your mind than what Hillary, who Hillary would appoint to the Supreme Court.
Unbelievable.
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Why did they ask each other?
Jason!
Man, that white person come down, Sherman.
Be this s***, b****** person.
They're gonna start showing Reverend Bulletin say every mother army tanks coming down this guy.
They say, he's white.
He's white.
Two, three, four.
Every genocide.
One, eight.
Oh Two is mommy gonna fight for her love.
Burning down shit ain't gonna help nothing.
Go burning down.
We need in our topic.
Take that to the supper.
Burn that.
We need our weed.
I don't wear it, but we need it.
It's sad because, you know, this will happen because they're not helping the black community.
Like, you know, the rich people, they got all this money and they're not like, you know, trying to give us none of this.
That is what has been going on in Milwaukee.
Well, we'll be broadcasting tonight, Hannity, on the Fox News channel.
You know, you've got video footage, apparently a relative, I'm told, of this.
Well, you know, it's important to put this in perspective.
You've got police body camera footage, which I've been saying for a long time, where you have a guy that apparently had been arrested 13 times, had a gun that had been used in a burglary that was illegal, that had 23 bullets in it, aimed at an officer before he was shot dead.
The officer in this case happened to be a black officer.
And you got all of this unrest that has now gone on here.
You've got Black Lives Matter rioters targeting white people for beatdowns.
And the clip, literally video footage showing these, quote, Black Lives Matter, you know, the same people that are advising Hillary Clinton, same people that have been to Obama's Oval Office repeatedly, targeting white people for these brutal beatdowns during this unrest.
You've got what you just heard there are angry rioters chanting black power, asking, is they white?
I'm quoting here.
I'm reading it verbatim as cars slowly drove by.
Yeah, they're white, states someone else, prompting the mob to run towards the vehicle.
Yeah, they're white.
Get their ass, screams another.
Hey, they're beating up every white person, explains another rioter.
He's white.
Beat his head, bitch.
This is what, all on tape.
And the footage cuts to, you know, it shows the mob attacking cars, trying to drag out the drivers of these cars.
The footage then cuts to an upper floor window before the person shooting the video states, I think they just beat some white bitch for bitch ass for no other reason.
They just bust open the window.
Local reporters were also targeted for violent assaults, including a Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reporter who was thrown to the ground and punched.
You have local radio stations and TV stations.
They were forced to pull their reporters all together because of the violent threats of the mob.
You got other clips where rioters are seen burning down a gas station while chanting black power.
Another clip showing a man trying to justify this violence.
You just heard it by claiming that rich people don't give blacks enough money.
Rioters also destroyed random cars for no particular reason.
This all began, again, an officer, black officer, shot and killed an armed man with a lengthy criminal record, carrying an illegal firearm with apparently 23 bullets in it, 13 prior significant arrests.
Anyway, I guess, you know, and then you have the new Black Panther leader of Milwaukee.
This is war responding to what happened.
Is it war?
Yes, it is.
It's a war against black people because we're the ones being murdered.
And you've got, let's see, you got Milwaukee rioters chanting, America never was great, was never great, hurling rocks at police officers, etc.
Now, you might say to yourself, Hannity, how do you say that in any way this is tied to the election?
Well, look at Ferguson.
Ferguson segregated in many, many ways.
Look at Baltimore.
You know, you're looking at towns and cities and municipalities.
They have one thing in common.
That educational system has never gotten better.
Look at poverty has increased.
Food stamp usage among black Americans and black community up 58% under Obama.
Blacks out of the workforce, not participating in the labor force.
That's up 20% under Obama.
Worst recovery since the 1940s.
That's under Obama.
Lowest home ownership rate in 51 years.
That's under Obama, accumulating more debt than every other president before him combined.
Spending more money, getting nothing for it.
Those shovel-ready jobs weren't so shovel-ready.
That was Obama.
You know, so this all sparked in this particular case.
David Clark, Sheriff Clark, he'll be on tonight from Milwaukee with me, blaming culture, not the cops, for the shooting.
He also vowed the violence will not get out of hand.
And he says people have to find a more socially acceptable way to deal with their frustration, their anger, their resentment.
We cannot have the social upheaval.
The chaos that we saw Saturday and Sunday frightens the good law-abiding people in these communities, in these neighborhoods.
We have a growth of the underclass here in Milwaukee.
We saw some of the behaviors on display.
The loss of innocent civilians and law enforcement personnel did not happen, I think, only by the grace of God with bullets flying all over the place.
He also went on to say, you better have, you're better off having the resources ready because Scott Walker, the governor, deployed the National Guard.
The sheriff emphasized that the shooting of the suspect only ignited a situation that already existed.
He said these conditions include failed public schools, homes without a father, inadequate parenting, the presence of gangs and drugs in these neighborhoods, along with massive unemployment.
Hasn't gotten better, has it, in the last eight years.
And he says that the violence will not be allowed to get out of hand.
Now, where's President Obama on all of this?
Well, the president was quick to rush to judgment.
Trayvon could have looked like my son.
That could have been me 35 years ago.
That was before any due process, any evidence presented.
He rushed to judgment in that case without the presumption of innocence.
And it turns out an eyewitness had Trayvon Martin on top of George Zimmerman, pounding his head into concrete again and again and again as you heard the screams of George Zimmerman for his life.
If you look at the case of Ferguson, Ferguson, Missouri, we got a videotape: Michael Brown, Michael Brown robbing a store, intimidating a clerk.
And in that particular case, it was numerous black eyewitnesses that identified Michael Brown fighting Officer Darren Wilson for his gun and trying to take his gun from him.
And then, of course, that's where the first shot rang out inside the police car that Michael Brown had reached into, that eyewitnesses pointed at him as having reached into.
It wasn't an incident of hands up, don't shoot.
That narrative never happened.
First thing we heard is they just shot him in the back in cold blood.
That didn't happen either.
And the media, you know, fuels these false narratives constantly.
And the president, and then you had eyewitnesses testifying that Michael Brown was charging at Officer Darren Wilson.
All of that testimony prevented Darren Wilson from being indicted.
And Darren Wilson, though, lost his career and his life as a result of him doing what anybody in that position would have to do, sadly.
And that is, you know, prevent your life from being taken.
President rushed to judgment in Florida, Trayvon Martin, rushed to judgment here, rushed to judgment about the Cambridge police acting stupidly, rushed to judgment in Freddie Gray, all those officers exonerated.
But the president doesn't comment on 3,500 people that are dead, killed in his hometown of Chicago since he's been president.
President doesn't address that, he says, by every measure, my economic policies have been working.
Well, not when you have a 58% increase in the black community during your presidency on food stamps.
Not when you have a 20% increase in black Americans out of the labor force as part of the lower labor participation rate that you don't count in your phony unemployment numbers.
And in spite of two nights of rioting, you know, Obama's out playing golf again in Motha's Vineyard, where he's spending, what, two weeks' vacation with his family.
But the president was briefed on the situation.
Yeah, a lot of good that does.
Now, there are religious leaders that are speaking out.
At least one Milwaukee religious leader is blaming Black Lives Matter and the president for what happened this weekend.
You know, you've got a Milwaukee police officer shot and killed an armed suspect who turned and pointed the gun at the cop during a foot chase, setting off this violent confrontation.
Anyway, the Milwaukee County Sheriff has weighed in.
Governor Scott has weighed in, but Obama's not weighed in.
One other person that weighed in is Bishop E.W. Jackson.
He was on Fox and Friends this weekend.
He said a mass hysteria has taken grip.
And President Obama has made it worse by embracing the Black Lives Matter movement.
You know, pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon.
What do we want?
Dead cops.
When do we want them now?
F the police.
We played all of this for you.
You know?
When is that going to happen?
When is Obama going to call for peace after what has happened?
You got white people hunted down for being white.
Beatdowns.
Drudge Report had a good headline.
Milwaukee's night of shame.
Governor Scott Walker sends in the National Guard.
You know, you have an officer injured.
He got hit with one of the rocks being pelted at him.
It's unbelievable.
Where's people chanting black power?
Let's get the white person.
Let's kick his ass.
You know, let's beat that bitch.
All the other stuff that you just heard.
Unbelievable.
For some, it's embarrassing.
For some, it's a moment to reflect.
How could this possibly happen?
How are things so bad in Baltimore, Milwaukee, Ferguson?
You know, that we have literally no opportunities.
When you look at the other statistics, one in five American families don't have a single family member working now.
One in six young men, 18 to 34, are either incarcerated or home in their mommy and daddy's basement.
The last place I wanted to be was in my mother and father's basement at that point in my life.
I want to live my life.
I want to have hope and opportunity.
I didn't have any money, but I still worked, and I had opportunity to work.
It's unbelievable.
This has all happened.
Anyway, so we'll be in Milwaukee tonight for tonight's TV show.
Hope you'll join us.
And I'm not going to go over a lot of the latest poll numbers because I'm not sure they mean a whole hell of a lot at this particular point.
We'll see where things are after Labor Day.
If you listen, you know, I will say this, and I am doubling down on this.
Those, there is an elitist, arrogant establishment class within Republican ranks.
Now, some people that I know that don't support Trump do it for very principal reasons that I respect.
I can deal with that, and they've explained it to me in ways that, all right, fine, it goes against their sensibilities.
I'm more of a kid that grew up in New York.
I'm not offended by language.
Words don't offend me.
Being lied to repeatedly by Hillary offends me.
Watching Hillary sell out her office offends me.
Watching what Hillary did to the families at Benghazi and not sending in support while they're under fire and denying their request for security really offends me.
By her voting for a war and then allowing herself to get politicizing it, to go forward politicizing it, resulting in a vacuum that was filled by ISIS, that offends me.
Her reset with Russia, a disaster and a failure.
Her supporting Mohamed Morsi, who once referred to the Israelis as apes, descendants of apes and pigs, that offends me.
Her supporting and initiating these discussions with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Iran offends me.
It offends me that they draw a red line in the sand, and President Assad of Syria crosses the red line and they do nothing about it.
That offends me.
But apparently, the tone of Donald Trump is so offensive to some of these arrogant elitist politicians and establishment types that they can't see the big picture about what's at stake in this election.
And if Hillary wins, I'm blaming all of them for their sabotage, their undermining.
Hillary appoints Supreme Court justices, they own them.
We don't become energy independent.
They own that.
Refugees kill Americans because we can't vet them, like our intelligence community says.
I blame them.
People cross the border, kill Americans.
I'll blame them for that too.
Education's still a disaster.
That's their fault.
There's an opportunity to fix all this.
Replacing Obamacare, same thing.
There's an intrusion on our Second Amendment rights.
Same thing.
I'm holding them accountable.
They can blame me all they want.
All I did was give every candidate an opportunity to speak to the American people.
The American people decided.
Hey, they beat up every white person.
Lay drop it!
That'd be a reverse!
That'd be a reverse!
They out here.
They not playing.
Man, that white person come down, Sherman.
Be this s**t!
White boy.
Man, they beating up every white person.
Look at this light.
Look at the white bump.
Look at the white bump.
They're going to start shooting.
Reverend Bulletin say every motherfucking win.
Army tanks coming down this.
Oh, God.
They say, Y'all shot up here.
What should I do to break down my tail?
Hang it up, like y'all look.
Hang it up and black y'all up.
You look bad!
F*** Don't burn it down shit.
We need him on our cookie.
Take that shit to the supper.
Burn that shit ain't sick.
We need our shit.
We need our weed.
I don't wear it, but we need it.
It's sad because, you know, this will happen because they're not helping the black community.
Like, you know, the rich people, they got all this money and they're not like, you know, trying to give us none of this.
All right.
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More grotesque sounds from two nights now of chaos and mayhem in Milwaukee that's following the shooting of an individual that was armed, apparently pointing a gun at a police officer who happened to be black.
And the aftermath, what you heard there is, you know, people talking about, well, you know, burning our neighborhood down isn't going to do nothing.
You know, we need our community.
You know, take this to the suburbs.
Go there and do it.
And then you heard things like Black Lives Matter rioting right in this audio.
They're beating up all the white people.
Let's beat up the white people.
Yeah, they're white, states somebody.
You know, a mob running towards a vehicle.
Yeah, they're white.
Let's get their ass.
You know, they're beating up every white person.
And it goes on from there.
The new Black Panther leader of Milwaukee says this is a war.
You got Milwaukee rioters chanting, America was never great, hurling rocks at police officers.
One cop was hurt in the process of all this.
And of course, the National Guard has been called out.
Now, Milwaukee Sheriff David Clark is blaming the culture, not cops, for the shooting here to respond to this.
And of course, the latest in the campaign, 85 days out, is former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich.
How are you, sir?
Well, I'm doing well, but what you just had should really deeply bother every American.
I mean, this is a level, this is frankly, the poison fruit of Obama's anti-police rhetoric, of his policy of dividing the country rather than showing leadership to bring us together.
And it's also the collapse of liberal institutions, as Sheriff Clark has said.
The liberal policies have led to no fathers at home, schools that don't work while the unions demand more and more money, city bureaucracies with taxes and regulations that kill small business, a lack of physical safety so people don't want to invest and create jobs.
All this stuff creates a poisonous environment in which you end up with people who think they have no future.
There were, I think, nine shootings in Milwaukee, including four dead before the policeman shot the man who had a gun.
Now, that man, by the way, had been arrested 13 times for serious crimes.
But the current system imprisons people for things that are nonviolent, but then releases people who should be in jail.
And it's really totally backwards right now, the way we have dealt with all this.
And it's an enormous problem.
Sheriff Clark has led the way in being honest both about the depth of the problem beyond just the shooting, but also standing up and pointing out this can't be a racist incident when you have a black policeman confronting a black who has already been arrested 13 times.
And by the way, whose gun had been traced back to a burglary a couple of months ago.
So he has a stolen gun.
We don't quite know why the two guys ran out of the car, but the fact that he turned, and apparently the imagery from the body camera shows him turning with a gun in his hand, aiming it at the policeman.
And it turns out it's a gun that had 23 rounds in it.
So, you know, the policeman probably felt that his life was in danger.
And given the number of people, policemen have been shot recently, it's not very difficult to imagine he did think his life was in danger.
You know, and I shudder to think, and this is a problem with all these high-profile cases, is that, you know, we've had the president weigh in nearly, what, over 3,500 dead in Chicago since he's been president.
And I would venture a guess that unless you've been watching my TV show scrolling the names at different times, nobody's ever heard of the people that were killed in Chicago in the time Obama's been president.
But he did weigh in on the Cambridge police without any evidence.
He did weigh in without due process in the George Zimmerman Trayvon Martin case.
He did weigh in on Ferguson without the presumption of innocence, and he does this every time, and he did it in Baltimore.
And by the way, again and again, the media narrative is wrong.
The media narrative in Ferguson was wrong.
The media narrative in Baltimore was wrong.
The police have all been exonerated, I think, except for one policeman, and now they've decided they're not even going to try to try him.
So the prosecutor there created a narrative that was false.
A narrative and an expectation that there was going to be a certain outcome here.
And that leads to more frustration in the community, but that outcome was never going to come.
Yeah, but there's something tragic about the fact that we have our first African-American president.
We've now had two consecutive African-American head of the Justice Department, Attorney General.
And yet, if anything, race relations right now are probably worse than they have been.
Gallup said they're worse than they have been in the last 16 years.
Not in this century have you seen the level of distrust and hostility that Gallup is now picking up in his polling data.
I mean, what a tragedy.
For Barack Obama to leave the country.
You know, I raise statistics on this program, and I mention them every day because since Obama's been president, we have 12 million more Americans on food stamps, another 8 million in poverty.
We have the lowest labor participation rate since the 70s, the worst recovery since the 40s, a 51-year low in terms of home ownership.
We've doubled our national debt.
He's taken on more debt than every other president before him combined.
You know, add to all of that how bad things are abroad.
And I point out it's a failure.
Now, I can break out statistically in the black community.
Well, we know that we pay more per student per capita than any other country on earth, but we're 35th in education.
So top-down, Common Core is not working.
And there's this mysterious reluctance and resistance to let states and local communities run the education system in their state, in their towns.
And you add to that a couple of other things.
58% increase in black Americans on food stamps just since Obama's been president.
A 20% increase in the black community in terms of labor force participation and not being in the labor force since he's been president.
Now, how are liberal policies helping black America, Hispanic America, and all of America?
And by the way, in the last year, there's been a 20% increase in murders in our largest cities.
So you have across the board a return to a level of distrust and violence that we really have not seen in a very long time.
And I think a lot of this is a direct consequence of liberal policies that fail.
Well, I think, and that's what this election is about.
Now, you wrote a really great piece today, and, you know, you point out you've been a leader in the Republican Party for the past 40 years.
You've been involved in 10-party platforms being developed and how important this thing is.
You know, with all of the discussion, this election for me comes down to very simple differences, but very profound differences.
For example, the type of Supreme Court justices that Trump will appoint, the type of tax cuts he will employ, his belief in energy independence, his belief in securing our border, rebuilding our military, education back to the states, better trade deals, replacing Obamacare, recognizing evil in our time, radical Islam, protecting our Second Amendment rights.
On every one of these, on these positions, Hillary is on the other side.
And yet all the media wants to talk about is, well, Donald Trump had a gaffe.
They don't talk about Hillary who lies compulsively with regularity to the media people that is ethically challenged, that has compromised every office she's ever held.
That doesn't get discussed.
Well, and as you point out about my article in Wall Street Journal, I mean, we really are in a period of very, very big choices.
I think the Democrats are now so taken over by a socialist, big government control mindset that they would do to the process of trying to cure diseases exactly what they've done for poverty in the inner city.
They'd make it worse.
I think that their policies would destroy innovation in the United States, force it to leave the country.
I think that they would, in the short run, they would save money by condemning all of us to shorter lives, more illness, less opportunity to try to have a cure.
And it's tragic because we're right at the edge of a period where we may be able to cure virtually everything.
The things we're learning about the human genome, the things we're learning about molecular biology and about dealing with human beings at very, very tiny levels where we're beginning to identify personalized medicine in a way that's never existed before.
All of these things require...
Yeah, go ahead.
I'm sorry.
No, I'm just going to say, all these things require a tremendous amount of effort to move us from basic science to your medicine cabinet.
And the private sector today spends $4 on basic research, so applied research, for every dollar we're spending at the National Institute of Health.
They spend it in directed ways to develop new solutions that you can use, whether it is trying to cure pancreatic cancer or trying to.
Which, by the way, my father died of.
Well, okay.
I did not realize that.
But then, and you know, personally, my best friend from high school also died of pancreatic cancer.
It's a terrible disease.
And we're slowly beginning to find ways to conquer it.
And my goal, and the whole point of my essay was to point out the difference in the Wall Street Journal between the Democratic platform, which is literally sort of a Venezuela-style government.
The bureaucracy takes over.
We crush the private sector.
We drive research out of the country.
And then they'll sit there and wonder why, just exactly like the inner city in Baltimore and the inner city in Detroit and the inner city in Milwaukee.
They'll wonder why it doesn't work when, in fact, it's their very policies which guarantee that it can't work.
Let me ask you one last question because we're running out of time.
And I have two minutes for you to answer, about a minute and a half.
As far as Donald Trump and the narrative advanced and the undermining and sabotage of Republicans in spite of the agenda I just laid out that he is standing for, what is your take on this race?
My argument to him would be keep it simple, and that is point out all the problems the country's facing, offer your solutions.
The only two people he should mention are Hillary and Obama, and forget all the chatter and the media and the rest of the noise out there and move forward.
Well, my take is that this is a much more wide open race than the news media wants you to believe, that they are desperately trying to convince us to be depressed and to decide that this is over.
But in fact, it's not.
I just ran across a fabulous new book on Truman's campaign in 48, where he was so far behind that Roper announced in September he was no longer polling because it was obvious that it was over.
Now, let me give you an example of why I say this.
I'm just looking today at Lunchtime Politics, which I get every day from Ron Fouchot.
Reuters has Clinton over Trump by plus five.
And you go, oh, my gosh.
Well, it's 4136.
So Hillary Clinton, after all the years of being First Lady, all the years of being U.S. Senator, all the years of being Secretary of State, two presidential campaigns, is at 41.
And the L.A. Times has at a one-point race.
I would guess in my mind.
I understand.
If you're at 41 in August, the Clinton campaign ought to be terrified.
Because the truth is, on almost every front, I mean, it is the Clinton allies, particularly in the teachers' union, who have created the disaster in Milwaukee.
It's the Clinton allies among Democratic mayors.
We've not had a Republican city council in Baltimore since 1942.
And we just don't have the guts to go into the city and ask for a lot of people.
It's just like Detroit and just like Baltimore.
I'm running out of time, though.
So I'm hoping that Pence and Trump will actually go into these cities and offer hope.
Well, I am going to be doing the show from Milwaukee tonight, and you're going to be our guest.
Sheriff Clark will be on.
And God willing, nothing horrible happens.
Mr. Speaker, thank you for being with us.
Talking to you.
Hey, they beat up every white person.
Jason!
They not playing!
Man, that white person come down, Sherman.
Be this s**t, be this s**t person family art They're gonna start showing Reverend Billy and say every motherfucking body.
coming down this they say he's white
War, five, six, seven, eight.
Oh, everything.
Who is mommy gonna fight for our law?
Burning down shit ain't gonna help nothing.
Don't burn it down shit.
We need in our community.
Take that shit to the supper.
Burn that shit ain't.
We need our shit.
We need our weed.
I don't wear it, but we need it.
Those are the sounds from the last two nights in Milwaukee.
That happens to show footage of, I guess, a relative of the man shot dead in Milwaukee calling on rioters to burn down white suburbs instead of their own neighborhoods.
And that's only part of what has happened in this whole disaster.
And now, of course, the National Guard has been brought in by Governor Scott Walker.
You have video, Black Lives Matter rioters targeting whites for beatdowns.
Oh, they're beating up all the white people.
Go get the white people.
The new Black Panther Party leader in Milwaukee said this is war.
And it goes further than that.
Milwaukee rioters chanting America was never great and black power, black power, and much, much more.
You had protesters upset.
This is all going back to a criminal waving a stolen gun, shot by a black police officer on Saturday night.
Milwaukee police said one officer was taken to the hospital for injury.
He was pelted with rocks being thrown at him in a squad car.
Joining us now is my good friend Mark Davis, and he's written a terrific brand new book, and it's called Upside Down, How the Left Turned Right Into Wrong, Truth into Lies, and Good into Bad.
How are you, sir?
Sean, I am fine.
I am fine is the short answer, but just hearing the litany of stuff you just played.
I mean, what country is it?
What year is it?
What universe are we in?
These are troubled times indeed.
You know, it's extraordinarily troubling.
And, you know, I think this actually goes to a big theme in your book, and that is how the left turned right into wrong.
Now, you know, we have had a president that has weighed in on very high-profile racial cases in the country.
Everything from Trayvon would look like my son, and that could have been me 35 years ago.
This is before any evidence was presented, before an eyewitness in that case testified that Trayvon Martin was banging George Zimmerman's head into the cement and George Zimmerman was screaming for his life, or the same president that weighed in on the Michael Brown case.
And by the way, he did it on foreign soil, talking about, well, we've got these race problems here in America in Ferguson, Missouri.
But again, you know, that was before black eyewitnesses testified that the guy we had on videotape robbing a store, intimidating a clerk, and fighting a cop for his gun and charging at a police officer was not the innocent victim that was shot in the back that we told us with hands up, don't shoot.
And it goes on from there.
And that's what I mean by the upside-down title.
These things are not just about disagreements.
I mean, you and I have had talk show careers for decades talking about disagreements, left versus right, different ways to get to a destination that we used to think was all about making the country better.
But that's what is totally upside down, totally unhinged, completely unmoored from reality, where facts don't matter.
I mean, we're chronicling things that matter and things that don't.
Context doesn't matter.
History doesn't matter.
Facts and evidence don't matter.
And when we lose a grip on those things, Sean, you can't get together and reason with anybody anymore.
And when you've lost that, it really saps your optimism.
Yeah.
You know, you go through a list of, for example, some of the debates which are extremely relevant in this campaign, and that is, you know, the left's belief system, that we should welcome anybody that wants to live here.
You know, I love how we often now get lectured by the former president of Mexico, Vicente Fox, on the issue of immigration.
Meanwhile, if you come from El Salvador or Nicaragua or Central America, anywhere, and you go into Mexico because there's more opportunity in Mexico than your home country, and you get caught in Mexico entering illegally, you're either put in jail or you're sent home.
But Mexico lectures us on, quote, migrants.
I had a big fight once with Vincente Fox, and he wouldn't even say the word illegal immigrant.
Of course not, because it's not in the lexicon.
The lexicon, the dictionary, the language has been changed.
And I'm glad, Sean, to have you bring it back to today and the race and right now, because as I was writing this book, it was like, let's take a broad look at all the things that are screwy that people have been saying and give people an opportunity to fight back with logic that works against the grain.
But right now, with Mr. Trump, who you're going to be spending some time with tomorrow, and God bless you for that.
And we all want him to win.
We have to have a win here.
Nothing Trump says is anywhere nearly as disturbing as what Hillary will do.
And it just turns out that on what you just mentioned, immigration, does anybody think that's going well?
On healthcare, does anybody think that's going well?
Is our education system going as well as it could?
Is government spending going as well as it could?
If Mr. Trump finds a way to avoid the unforced errors every three or four days and focus on those truly unifying principles, then this becomes a winnable election again.
Yeah, I totally agree with you.
And for me, this is what that election is about.
It's about significant philosophical differences, a philosophical divide.
And that is what Trump is promising versus what Hillary is promising.
And by the way, the one thing the media won't focus on is the very thing you are describing.
Do you want a top-down educational system where you have common core?
Well, that's Hillary.
If you want education sent back to local communities and states, well, that's what Trump's offering.
If you want Obamacare, that's Hillary.
You don't want Obamacare, that's Trump.
If you want a wall built, well, that's Trump.
If you don't want a wall built and you want open borders, that's Hillary.
If you want to vet refugees, that's Trump.
If you don't want to vet them, that's Hillary.
If you want to mention radical Islam, that's Trump.
If you don't want to mention it, that's Hillary.
These are distinct differences.
These are profound differences.
And, Sean, and that's what's so weird about what's going on right now.
And you're chronicling it every day, and I am at my show in Texas and anything else I do, because there are people, good people, good conservative people, friends of yours, friends of mine, who have willful blindness to the differences that you've just described.
There are people with a brainstem walking around saying, Hillary Trump, no big difference.
How in the world do you fight against that?
I honestly, for the life of me, and I've actually started calling out names.
If Hillary picks the next Supreme Court justices, there are Republicans I blame for this because they can't see the simple debate that you and I are now discussing.
They refuse to say.
They refuse to see it.
And while they're all critical of Trump, they're ignoring the single most pathological congenital liar in the history of politics in the process.
It's sort of mind-numbing to me.
But that's where their mind is.
It's funny.
I'm spending a lot of time, and I know you are too, because a lot of these, again, are friends and people who we're going to have to deal with moving forward, hopefully paddling the boat in the same direction.
About what is it like?
No, let me tell you, these people are committed to sabotage at this point.
That includes Republican politicians.
I know.
That includes well-known pundits, people that you would think would know better and be able to see the difference.
And I think a lot of it is rooted in a lot of these people are far more establishment or connected to and that we ever knew.
And have you reached the conclusion that for some people, I don't want to paint with too broad a brush, but for some people, a Hillary victory, that's just another Democrat presidency.
We had Clinton, we had Carter, we survived.
It's just another Democrat presidency.
Their lot in life would not change so much.
They'd still have their column.
They'd still have their TV show.
They'd still have their elected office.
But the ascendancy of Trump shakes the apple card, shakes the foundation, changes everything.
And they're more scared of that than they are the damage that Hillary would do to the Constitution and the country.
You know, really well said.
You know, if you look at, for example, the things that you put in your book, everything being upside down, by the way, the cover is hilarious.
I thought it was really funny.
Is that cool?
Yeah.
And the gender differences, they don't matter.
If you criticize jihad or radical Islam, you're an Islamophobe.
That, you know, Christians are the intolerant ones, that America's gun culture is the problem.
I mean, you lay all of this out in great detail, and it really goes to the heart of where we're debating right now.
Well, you kindly mentioned the cover, and it's funny because it is Grant Woods American Gothic, one of the most familiar paintings of Americana, and the painting is literally upside down.
Looking at the book with the type going one way and the painting going another is just, look, I wrote the doggone thing, and it's unnerving to me.
It's like, is this right?
What's going on?
And it turns out that that is emblematic of exactly the kind of thing from the Milwaukee violence that you're there chronicling, the presidential campaign that we're both chronicling, that we have gone past the point where we're just having disagreements about things.
That's fine.
We can do that for the rest of our lives.
But there are people in America who have to be brought back to certain shared values, certain shared truths, certain shared facts, or else we are screwed long term.
You know, one of the things I point out on a regular basis, and I have no doubt you do it on your show on a regular basis, as I go through how bad things have gotten.
You know, 12 million more Americans on food stamps is a catastrophe to me.
7 million more in poverty is a catastrophe.
The lowest labor participation rate since the 70s is a catastrophe to me.
You know, the worst recovery since the 40s, a catastrophe.
The lowest home ownership rate in 51 years.
I mean, that is the American dream.
A catastrophe.
And I can add to that, you know, a doubling of our debt, robbing our kids on top of it all.
Well, and there you are in Milwaukee looking at a very hot-button issue, obviously, and that's race.
Back when LBJ started this great society, how many black kids were born in a household without a mother and a father?
Maybe 10%?
What is it now?
Maybe 70?
How is that great society working?
As Ann Coulter says, you know, with the war on poverty, where's the exit strategy out of that quagmire?
It's not working well for anybody.
Yeah, it's not working anywhere.
You know, and then I can add foreign policy to the mix.
But one of the problems, and I think I got this from your book, and I wrote this, I wrote a blurb for your book when you sent it to me many, many, many months.
Do you ever know this, by the way, you write a book, and then by the time you send it to the publisher, it takes months and months before the book finally comes out?
It is.
And then you're like, I was scared to death of something happening in the news that would make that happen in the book.
In fact, the opposite has happened.
But go ahead.
What I said in my review of this is, you know, you chronicle the crazy crap the left is saying and how things that have made it harder for us to make a stronger country, a safer country, a more prosperous country.
And you're offering answers here that anybody can use when you're battling these liberals, and it's extraordinarily well thought out.
But the problem is, half the country, it doesn't matter if Hillary's on video shooting somebody in the head for no good reason.
They'll defend her.
And see, that's the funny thing, because that's the thing that Trump joked.
That's funny.
That's the scary thing.
It's the thing that Trump joked about that I could shoot somebody in Fifth Avenue.
Nobody actually believed it.
And it's one of those long lists of things where you got to know whether he's being sarcastic or not.
In Hillary's case, there apparently is a long list of actual crimes she can commit, and it just doesn't matter.
I know not everything boils down to an internet meme, but one of the things that somebody has up lately is Nixon erased 18 minutes of tape and he had to go.
She gets rid of 30,000 emails and she's ahead in the polls.
Yeah, it's absolutely crazy.
So how do you analyze this race at this point?
I'm asking everybody that's on.
Okay, bottom line is it's August.
And I know in July I said it's July.
And in May I said it's May.
You talk a lot with brother Newt Gingrich, whom I love.
Labor Day is a big switching point.
It's the real beginning of the home stretch.
Do you think this comes down to the debates?
Do you think that's going to well, not just the debates, but the debates, there are a couple of things that can really change the status quo.
Everybody right now goes, oh my gosh, he's losing young people.
Oh my gosh, he's losing women.
Oh my gosh, he's losing in key swing states.
Here's what I really do mean: it's August.
Here come the debates.
Here comes the home stretch.
Here come a lot of the never Trumpers, not all of them.
Some of them are lost forever.
Some of them are going to go, good lord, what am I thinking?
Of course I can't let her have a look at the Supreme Court.
And here's the biggest thing possibly, Sean: events on the ground.
I do not ever, ever want more shootings, more riotings, more terrorist attacks.
But the bottom line is that we have headlines that are filled with them every day.
And as happened in Nixon's age in 1968, when law and order were a big deal, there are Americans across the spectrum who say, you know what, things are crazy.
Things are just unhinged.
And we do need, even with Trump with some of his white-knuckle roller coaster ride, might do a better job of getting us back to some fundamental law and order basics, which we desperately, desperately need.
All right, Mark Davis, his brand new book is out, by the way, Upside Down: How the Left Turned Right into Wrong, Truth into Lies, Good into Bad.
It's in bookstores everywhere.
It's on Hannity.com and it's on Amazon.com as well.
Mark, thank you for being with us.
We appreciate it.
All right, when we come back, we're going to look at the state of this campaign.
85 days out, we have our pollsters.
John McLaughlin, Doug Schoen, it's all part of the best election coverage available on your radio dial.
So, on all these important challenges, you have to ask yourself: is Trump up to the job?
He's giving a speech.
He's giving a speech about ISIS today.
Now, I've laid out my strategy for defeating ISIS over many months.
We will strike their sanctuaries from the air and support local forces taking them out on the ground.
Under President Obama and Vice President Biden, we are making progress.
We will surge our intelligence so we detect and prevent attacks before they happen.
We will disrupt their efforts online to reach and radicalize young people in our country.
It won't be easy or quick, but make no mistake, we will prevail.
There is no doubt in my mind.
The New York Post, very recently by great writer Steve Quaza, how Donald Trump helped save New York City.
Long before Donald Trump stamped his name in gold on buildings around the world, posted snarky midnight tweets, that's true, and joined the race for the White House, he was New York's most important and bravest real estate developer.
I did a good job.
I did a good job.
Trump doesn't get enough credit for being a transformative planner who is in love with the city of New York.
I'm also in love with Connecticut, by the way.
I'm really, I'm really in love with our country.
Trump waded into a landscape of empty Fifth Avenue storefronts.
By the way, New York City was a disaster.
You remember?
Nobody wanted to invest.
It was over.
Remember President Ford said, go to hell?
It was over for New York.
It was going to go down the turbs.
Trump waded into a landscape of empty Fifth Avenue storefronts.
The Dustball muggings and ground around Central Park and a Wall Street area, seemingly on its last legs as companies moved out.
Does that sound familiar?
Companies were moving out like crazy, which was then a remote offshore island.
Few other developers built anything but plain vanilla office and apartment buildings.
Trump, almost by force of will, and by the way, this is a great writer.
This is a tough writer.
A very smart guy.
Tough critic.
Trump, almost by force of will, rode to the rescue, expressing rare faith.
That's what we're going to do for the country, folks.
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Latest Connecticut poll I saw showed it dead even.
Now, if you look at the real clear politics, let's say we've got Florida.
We've got Clinton plus five in Florida, Trump plus four in Georgia.
We've got nationally L.A. Times Clinton plus one, Clinton plus five in Florida in that particular poll.
And we go on from there.
So what is the state of the race?
John McLaughlin is a pollster, founder of the McLaughlin and Associates Group, and Doug Schoen, pollster, political analyst, Fox News contributor, and welcome all of you back to the program.
John McLaughlin, state of the race.
State of the race, there's probably more ebb and flow than we expected.
A lot of us didn't expect Trump to get the bounce he did out of the Republican convention.
He got a serious bounce because he was trailing by six, seven points in the average, even the four candidate average in June.
And then he was able to pull a little ahead in that average that you cited at the end of July.
And since the Democrat convention, where, you know, he's really been tagged pretty hard by the media, Clinton's been able to restore her like roughly, you know, I mean, the average of right now is 44 to 38.
So she's got back to a six-point lead, but there's still 85 days to go.
So I think he can come back, but he's got to be disciplined in the message, and he'll do that.
What do you think, Doug?
What's your state of the race?
I mean, what John said is, I think, right, the swing states have, in large measure, moved in the direction of the national polls.
He's well down Trump in Colorado.
State like Georgia, which shouldn't be in play, is in play.
And the rest of the swing states are anywhere from three to ten points for the Secretary of State.
And Pennsylvania's plus nine.
So look, Sean, if Donald Trump does what you've told him to do, to talk economy, terror, and stay focused, no more gaps, he can be elected president of the United States.
Will he, with the gaps he's made?
So far, it doesn't look so good, especially given that he has not been able to adopt the message discipline that you, Rudy Giuliani, and others have implored him to put forward.
You know, I've given a couple of, I don't know, what I think he should do types of things.
And I guess it's easy for me sitting on the sidelines to tell everybody what to do.
But I feel strongly about it.
It's now my 30th year in radio.
It's not my first rodeo.
It's my 20th year on the Fox News channel.
In October, I begin my 21st year.
And to me, what elections are about, when I say message discipline and what it means in terms of Donald Trump or in the context of Donald Trump, to me, I would only mention two people, and that is Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
And then I'd run through the statistics, which, Doug, you have heard me repeat often about how bad things are.
And then what the election means and compare and contrast where he stands on the Second Amendment, destroying ISIS and saying the words radical Islam, where she stands on Obamacare, where he stands, where they stand on the size of government and taxes, the types of people they'll appoint to the Supreme Court, the issue of energy, Hillary wanting to put coal miners out of work and coal mining companies out of business, about education,
go back to the states or top-down or rebuilding the military or building the wall.
And to me, that is it.
There's no other message from here on in.
And I would focus only on that.
And I think he did it this weekend in Connecticut.
And I think the more he stays on that message, the better off you will do.
But I'm not sure if that's his plan.
Well, but Sean, you have been a zealous advocate of that agenda.
I think that's the right approach for Donald Trump.
But candidly, you do it better than Donald Trump does.
You're more compelling, more clear, and more focused.
Thanks a lot, Doug.
Doug tried to get me to run for president four years ago, and I told him he was out of his mind.
For Sean, the American-elect line, it was his for the asking.
He walked away from it.
John McLaughlin and a bipartisan account there.
Handed him for president.
Yeah, great.
I'm sure everybody wants that idea.
Absolutely.
They do.
They should.
Yeah.
Oh, so Doug, the Democrat, would vote for me over Hillary.
Now you tell me.
Absolutely.
Sean, let's talk.
I can still get you the line.
Kurt, thanks a lot.
John McLaughlin, am I off in my belief that it fundamentally comes down to those simple things, or am I missing something?
No, it's like Doug said, I mean, this is great.
Doug, Doug's a well-known Democrat, and I'm going to fully agree with him.
And you have been giving very honest, clear advice.
And that message discipline, like Trump did, he came out with a very good economic plan last week.
And a lot of this stuff, it's so obvious to those of us like Doug and myself who've done this for decades.
What they want to do is when you come out with a good economic plan that will create millions of jobs, well, let's get him off message.
But Trump has been grinding away since then.
The beginning of last week was more of when there was an idea in this.
But then, like you mentioned, Georgia.
Georgia, I worked for Governor Deal and other Georgia Republicans down there.
And Georgia, really, August 4th, the Atlanta General Constitution had us down three points.
But there's been two polls since then when Trump's back on message, talking about the economy, talking about creating jobs.
Gravis and CBS News have him up four now in Georgia.
So he's moving back to where a Republican should be.
And it's really on the strength of message and the strength of discipline and having the right people endorse you.
Besides, by the way, besides these policies, you need experts.
Like you've talked about, he should have a team of rivals, a cabinet, where it would demonstrate unity and it would demonstrate expertise.
But I got to tell you, before I want that, John, I want Trump's promises to America.
And it should be the very things I just said.
And that's, you know, building the wall, rebuilding the military, education back to the states, energy independence, originalness to the Supreme Court, tax cuts.
Half the population pays no income tax, reducing the size of government, replacing Obamacare, destroying ISIS, protecting the Second Amendment.
What's so hard about that?
And by the way, those are all albums, Sean.
You've got those.
And it's like you just have to focus on it because the Clinton campaign, the one thing that they realize is every time, and those of us who've known Donald Trump for years and now working, trying to help to get him elected, Trump has been a real tough guardian of his brand and his image.
And the Clinton campaign, when they know they can poke him, they're going to try to get him off that message.
Because if they actually have to talk about Hillary's plan, which will raise tons of taxes, raise taxes across the board, and then she says with a straight face that she's going to create jobs, it doesn't make any sense.
In fact, the one time she slipped up recently in a public appearance, she said, yes, we're going to raise taxes on the middle class.
And the Democrats cheered.
It was like, that's exactly what they're going to do.
Yeah.
Well, let me add a couple of other things that I would say.
When I talk about Obama, I would talk about the failures of Obama.
And that's, you know, the extra $12 million on food stamps since he's been president, the $8 million in poverty that have been added to those lines, the lowest labor participation rate since the 70s, lowest home ownership rate in 51 years, the worst recovery since the 1940s.
I mean, that's a compelling story, and Hillary wants to continue that.
And she has the character of, you know, I don't want to say of a criminal that lies, you know, with, you know, with impunity.
Well, I take exception to the latter point.
She's not been charged with any offense as we speak today.
But let me go to your message.
That is what Donald Trump should be running on, what the Republicans should be running on.
And I've said, and you've made emphasis, Sean, of the fact that I've said that she can't run on a record.
And she's not.
She's a political professional who plays to win.
She doesn't play for rhetorical points to win.
They're going to deploy $2 billion saying Donald Trump is unfit for the presidency.
And if he plays into that narrative, I can tell you what the result will be.
It will be a third Clinton presidency, a third term for all.
It's amazing.
But you even admit what a weak candidate she is.
Sean, it's no secret.
She knows it.
But here's the difference.
She puts her nose to the grindstone, raises the money, spends what it takes, and does what she needs to do and is comfortably ahead now because she is serious.
Whatever you may think about her, she is serious about winning.
And so far.
Listen, you can hear it in her voice today.
I heard it in her voice today.
She thinks she's got this thing.
Yes, she does.
She does.
And more likely than not, she does.
You agree with that, John?
There's an interesting thing where she's even with all these things going for her.
And like our friend Brent Pozel recently showed at Media Research Center how biased the network coverage was against Trump recently with like five to one negative on him recently.
But even with all of that going for, she still can't get above the mid-40s.
Most Americans don't want to vote for her.
She still has her high negatives.
And Sean, as you said, we should be going after President Obama as well, because if his job rating rises just on sheer media adulation, because there's no facts to it, the economy's flat, security is bad.
There's a story in the Jerusalem Post today about there could be security breaches at the insular airbase in Turkey that the United States has where we have nuclear weapons.
That's not winning the war against ISIS.
That's a serious problem.
And it's like, we need to talk security.
We need to talk the economy.
And we need to stick to the issues and let people remind people that the Democrats are failing and we need change.
And we need to be able to get the majority of Republicans to vote for change.
Have you heard Donald Trump talk about the fact, which is true, that we've lost Turkey to the Russians, that we're now in a terrible fight with the Turks over the extradition of Mr. Dulan?
That the rapprochement in Moscow between Erdogan and Putin was a love fest.
And who is.
Well, that's the one thing, Doug, you and I have always agreed on.
And even you admit that Iraq and Syria and Libya and Egypt, it was a colossal screw-up by both Hillary and Obama.
But, Sean, we have this 800-pound guerrilla of Iran out there, potentially making nuclear weapons, testing anti-Milano.
And Hillary facilitated all this.
How could you possibly swear on this?
Why is Trump, Sean?
Where is Donald Trump on all this?
By the way, John McLaughlin, you have worked on some of the more difficult campaigns, people that have extremely high negatives like Jesse Helms and even Prime Minister Netanyahu.
Is this similar?
I mean, you've always said to me that, yeah, they were always losing in the polls until Election Day, real quick, about 15 minutes.
Netyahu is real smart that he was able to move his positives up.
And Helms, he was always able to win because he raised his opponent's negatives up.
But that's what Clinton's doing to Trump right now.
And he can reverse that because his numbers are changeable.
Hers really aren't.
We've known her for 25 years, and she's dishonest and she's untruthful.
And the fair part is a lot of Americans agree with that.
But right now, they're still voting for her.
So we can take that away.
Yeah.
All right, guys.
Thanks for the insight.
Appreciate it.
The state of the campaign.
We'll be doing it often, almost daily now, as we're 85 days out of this election.
You know, there was a judo match at the Olympics in Rio de Janeiro.
And anyway, you have this, you have two contenders, one from Israel and one from Egypt.
The guy from Egypt's name is Islam El Shahabe, which is his name.
Anyway, it's the early round judo match, packed house.
At the end of the match, the Israeli won this match.
And anyway, he refused to shake the Israelis' hand.
And the referee of the match forced him to bow.
Now, I do martial arts.
One of the things that martial arts is there is a deep respect for your sensei, your instructor.
We bow in before every workout session.
If we're working with weapons, for example, we do stick and blade and firearm training as part of what we do.
You know, you take your weapon, whatever it happens to be, and you show respect.
You play, you know, if it's a stick or a blade, you turn it upside down and show your opponent that you have it.
I mean, there's a lot of respect in this art, and it is an art.
And it's amazing the things that I've learned in the four-plus years that now I've been doing this.
And it is the height of disrespect not to shake somebody's hand.
Win or lose, it doesn't matter.
You shake their hand and you bow out.
Anyway, at the end of this, the referee did force him to bow.
That's just part of the art, and he did that part of it.
But the Israeli was gone at that point.
Anyway, now the IOC is looking into it.
It's gotten as high as the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who he weighed in on Twitter, a friend of his, a spokesman, and said it's shocking.
Sports are not the field for politics and extremism.
You know, this has happened in tennis.
There have been certain instances where, like in Dubai, where they weren't allowing a Jewish woman tennis player to play.
Well, if I was on the tour and that happened, I would just not go.
I think everybody else should not go.
Got another incident where swimmer, Brian, what's his name, Lactei, that guy?
Yeah, I mean, amazing swimmer.
Been watching him and Michael Phelps.
He was robbed at gunpoint in Brazil.
Good grief.
All right, 800-941, Sean, our toll-free telephone number.
You want to be a part of the program?
All right, let's go to Nicholas in Houston, Texas, KTRH.
Nicholas, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, what's going on, Sean?
How are you doing?
I'm good.
How are you doing?
Hey, I'm pretty good.
Pretty good.
Loving the coverage, as always.
I just had a couple of points to speak to about the Milwaukee shooting.
First thing I want to put out there is me personally, I'm different from the majority of black people that feel this way.
I don't feel like it's a racial issue, and that's where we're getting confused, and we're not getting the results that we want.
If we focus it on the straight police brutality and police training issue, we will be okay.
This man got shot, and they're saying that he got shot because he had a gun in his hand.
Now, if you can recall last week, as messed up as the shooting was in Chicago, they released the footage almost the same day with an exact timeline because they're going through a forum trying to work with their community.
Now, why would you let your city go?
And this is a question to you: if you have the tape, if you have the proof, if you have the body camera, why would you let your city go in the deepest?
Let me just say a couple of things.
I'm all in favor of it.
And I'll replay, if you want, some of the audio tapes that you hear here.
And that is a mob of people attacking people because of the color of their skin.
Now, I'll play it for you.
And my question out of it, I'll give it to you ahead of time so you have plenty of time to think about it.
Isn't that what we find as racist and repugnant?
Let's play it.
Black Poe!
Is that white?
Is that white?
They white!
Get that ass!
Turn that bitch up!
Hey!
And they beating up every white person.
They dropping every white person.
It ain't beating up.
Who ain't beating up?
Who ain't Jason?
Who ain't Jason?
They out here.
They not playing.
Man, that white person come down, Sherman.
He white.
Be this s**t!
Man, they beating up every white person.
Look at the fing lights.
Look at the white pub.
Look at the white pub.
They're going to start shooting.
Reverend Bulletin say every mother.
Army tanks coming down this guy.
They not.
They say, Tell his mommy going to fight for her life.
Burn it down.
Shit ain't going to help nothing.
Don't burn it down.
We need him on together.
Take that shit to the street.
Burn that shit.
We need our shit.
We need our weed.
I don't wear it, but we need it.
All right.
So you just heard all of that.
Got the white person.
What are your thoughts on that?
Well, first of all, it hurts, it pains me to hear my community in such disarray.
As I said before, before the playing of the tape, they could have easily, it's going on two, three days now.
They haven't really.
Okay, but you know, but we have this happening all the time.
Obama has not been quiet in weighing in on high-profile racial cases, except for his hometown of Chicago, where a majority of the instances are black on black crime.
And you got 3,500 people that are dead in Chicago just since he's been president.
And he weighs in without any facts or due process or any assumption or presumption of innocence in George Zimmerman's case, in the case in Ferguson, in the case of Freddie Gray.
So he weighs in a lot in the case of Cambridge.
He's wrong a lot.
Right.
Let me speak to the black on black crime.
And this will be short.
At the end of the day, all those black-on-black crimes, what we call in the hood, they get a sue for one.
And that's the discrepancy here.
When there's black-on-black crime, every time you see a black man shot, murdered, or shot, there's another black man that's going to do life and going to jail and paying for their crime.
These police have no, they don't get due process.
Okay, let me say that.
With all due respect, with all due respect, they do get due process.
They're having.
And it takes a month.
Excuse me, but they're out there fighting and protecting our rights to due process and the presumption of innocence.
They certainly deserve that as well.
In this particular case, while some immediately wanted to see this through a racial prism, turns out in this case that the police officer was black.
It turns out in this case that the perpetrator, the person killed, had a gun.
It turns out that, yeah, there's a videotape.
I'm all in favor of releasing all the evidence.
But you know what?
There's a process for that as well.
And the process is you don't want to prejudice a jury in a case by releasing all the evidence at once.
So there are good reasons for all of this.
By the way, stay right there.
Nicholas in Houston, say hi to Vivian.
She's in upstate New York.
Vivian, say hi to Nicholas.
Hi, Nicholas.
How are you?
I'm great, Vivian.
How are you?
Doing well, doing well.
All right, Vivian, what's on your mind today?
All right.
So my father is African-American.
He is actually a retired police officer from Albany, New York.
And I kind of grew up looking at things from his perspective.
I saw him.
I saw the abuse that he received from his own community, from our own family.
There was this attitude kind of unwritten where it's how dare you become a traitor to your own cause?
How dare you become a police officer when the police are the enemy?
And I know I understand that that's not a viewpoint that every black person has, but it is more prevalent than it should be.
Case in point, Milwaukee, case in point, Ferguson.
And what I see, what I see, what my father has seen is there is this attitude where we have raised our kids.
Our grandparents have raised their kids to be these entitled, spoiled brats, where God forbid anyone with authority, especially a white person with authority, calls you out for doing something wrong.
God forbid we are held accountable for our own actions in our own community, all hell breaks loose.
That man pointed a loaded weapon at, what did he think was going to happen?
And when are we going to stand up and stop making these thugs martyrs when nine times out of ten, had he just complied with the initial police order, this would not have happened.
Why are we making them martyrs?
Why are we not standing up as a community and saying, hey, excuse me, a police officer gave an order, follow it.
We're not going to sympathize with you if you broke the law and then tried to run from a police officer.
I guarantee you, if we stop making these thugs martyrs, every time they screw up and they receive their due punishment for their screw-ups, we're going to start seeing a lot less of this happen.
Well, Vivian, I appreciate your opinion.
I really do.
And if I could just answer that real quick, I completely agree with you, but here's the discrepancy.
Our due justice is not going to jail.
It's death.
It's death.
If we don't do what we're supposed to do, then as you see automatically time and time again, we die.
Now, you said that the man pointed to the police, that pointed a weapon at him, which we haven't seen the video, but all they came out and said is he had a gun.
Vivian, there's a charge with that.
It's called felony, possession, and firearm.
And I just want to read this to you.
But the problem is, Nicholas, no, no.
You hold on a second.
A police officer has a right to go home to his family.
A police officer.
If somebody has a gun and you point that gun at somebody, that is a direct threat on their life.
And you have the right to defend yourself.
And it's all easy said and done, but we're putting these cops in situations every day with drug dealers and criminals and organization and organized crime.
And these guys, they want to go home to their families.
And you point a gun at a cop and you're going to get shot.
That's just a rule of life.
I'm going to have to comment on this real quick.
I was a little girl growing up.
I knew at seven, eight, nine years old that when my father went out to pull a double or sometimes a triple shift, there was always a risk that my father was not coming home because some entitled, spoiled, ignorant brat who didn't want to follow a simple police order would have the balls to point a weapon at my father and fire it because he had zero respect for authority.
The risk is very prevalent.
It is very real.
And until we stop enabling these brats by giving them this kind of attention and glorification for what they do wrong, these police officers' lives are going to be more and more and more at risk.
And quite frankly, I'm sick of it.
It's embarrassing and it needs to stop.
We need to seek the truth and not automatically come to the conclusion, jump to the conclusion, oh, was a police officer shooting a black man, so the black man had to be innocent.
No.
Vivian, let me tell you where this anger comes from.
Again, I do appreciate your opinion.
I'm going to just tell you where all the anger comes from, especially the video that you heard earlier.
I put this in the internet.
Let me show you exactly what comes up.
And it goes on and on and on.
White man in San Diego waving a gun.
It's a dude not shot.
Cincinnati police killed black man with a toy gun and saves white man with a toy gun.
White man arrested alive after pointing a shotgun at passing guards and shooting a handgun at a deputy.
You know how long this list is?
That's where the anger comes from.
And that's why they try to make it to a racial thing, which I still disagree with.
But it's clear.
If we break the rules, we die.
If a white person breaks the rules, just like your father did not.
Actually, Nicholas, I hate to let facts get in the way of your emotional argument here.
But statistically, many more whites get shot by cops and killed by cops every year.
You just don't hear about it.
What I'm waiting to see somebody point out here is we haven't called out the mainstream media, and Sean, not you, but the mainstream media for playing on the emotions of the black community.
We have a black president who is toying with the emotions of black people.
Okay, yes, I'm taking it there.
Who sits on his hands and watches communities unfold one after the other.
We're literally ripping each other apart over race.
Okay?
Now you have the media making it a point to point out the fact that it was a white officer shooting a black person and then list the facts behind the shooting.
All right.
So now they're knowingly adding fuel to the fire.
And here we are.
We have made ourselves the perfect patsy for this liberal agenda to take over because they can't do anything until we have separated ourselves and destroyed ourselves as a community, as families, and so on and so forth.
And because we refuse to seek facts first and put our emotions to the side until we get the facts, this kind of crap is going to continue.
Vivian, you know who's most guilty of this, rushing to judgment?
That would be the president of the United States.
I 100% agree with you.
He is the biggest fraud and the biggest lie that has ever brought upon this country.
But you know what?
We did it to ourselves because we have this mentality.
Oh, a black person is going to get elected, so all of our problems are going to be solved.
And then we sat back, we folded our hands, and we just watched and waited.
Vivian, I love your take.
I love your sister.
She sounds like a strong sister.
I do appreciate your opinion, but I just want both of you guys to have a lot of people.
Hey, by the way, Nicholas, wait a minute.
If she's a strong sister, am I not a strong brother or what?
You're my brother.
That's why I talk to you because I get a chance to come back.
I got a question.
Aren't we all?
I got a question.
Aren't we all?
I got a question.
Hang on.
Aren't we all God's children?
We all have to agree that just as black people, just as policemen want to go home, black people want to go home too.
Of course.
This is America.
This is America.
So we all have a whole thing of the beautiful thing about America is free will.
But we're all God's children, right?
Just all man breaking the law.
I'm asking you a question.
We're all God's children.
Nicholas.
Nicholas.
He was shot at the bottom.
Nicholas.
At the end of the day, he should have told me well.
You're not going to shut up.
All right.
I got to let you go.
Anyway, Vivian, thank you.
Nicholas, thank you.
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