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It's Bastille Day.
In Nice.
And everybody's just in sort of running in one direction for their lives.
Everybody's really it sounded like an attack in Beirut.
I know that sounds crazy to say, and I said to my friends, this doesn't sound like fireworks.
sounds like Beirut when it's under attack.
We saw one body.
I saw a stroller that had been crushed.
Saw street signs and other debris.
But when we were walking back from the Hyatt to our hotel, there were bodies every bodies and blood everywhere.
It was just I'm in complete shock.
There's just it was unbelievable carnage.
There it is yet once again the malevolence of radical Islam on display last night in Nice in France as part of the Bastille Day celebration that was going on there.
The body count continues to go up by the hour.
The toll now of this uh fireworks celebration, Bastille Day celebration in Nice, has now risen to eighty-four dead and two hundred and two injured.
The government identified the attacker as a thirty-one-year-old native of Tunisia.
France has now extended a national state of emergency, absorbed the shock of the third major terrorist attack there in 19 months.
In France, a total of 147 people were killed in terrorist attacks in and around Paris in January and November last year.
The attacker identified Mohammed Bohil, 31 delivery truck driver, uh born and raised in Tunisia.
And according to news reports, no organized group has claimed responsibility for this, although online accounts associated with the Islamic State and Al Qaeda are cheering it, and it is taken right out of the book that was out there that has been printed exactly what has been planned since as early as 2010.
Al Qaeda and uh uh magazine called Inspire.
Now there has been mixed reaction, and I want to go through this slowly because this is very important.
This now is front and center.
There are two issues that drive elections.
And by the way, Mike Pence now officially on the ticket with Donald Trump.
Donald Trump tweeting out today, he'll have a joint announcement with Governor Mike Pence of Indiana tomorrow.
Before that, though, Governor Mike Pence will be sitting down with me tonight, 10 Eastern on the Fox News Channel for his first interview since the announcement that he will be on the ticket.
I understand the two of them will also be doing sixty minutes on Sunday night with Leslie Stahl.
So hopefully set your DVR for tonight, 10 Eastern.
I've done a lot of research on Mike Pence.
I I've got a lot of things.
I like this pick.
And I I was quoted to say it I wouldn't be happy.
There's so much I forgot about Mike Pence.
You know Mike Pence was the first Congressman to ever speak at a Tea Party rally?
You know, Mike Pence, I had forgotten this too.
He challenged John Boehner and the Republican, the weak Republican establishment on spending, and literally challenge Boehner to be Speaker of the House.
I mean, he's got some fascinating things to uh I'll share with you in the course of the program today.
Obviously, we have a lot of focus on terror.
Uh we'll talk about, you know, there's I know the media is gonna hone in on quote the differences between the two, Trump and Pence.
There's very few actually when you look at it, maybe more stylistic differences than anything else.
Uh So we'll hit that in the course of the program, but 10 Eastern tonight.
I want to just I want to stand back because this is so important for the future of this country.
Peace and prosperity drive elections.
Well, this is about the peace of whether or not you are going to be able to live free in a country and not have an incident like San Bernardino or Chattanooga or Fort Hood or Orlando or 9-11 ever, God forbid, happening on this soil again.
I mean, it is it is unbelievable to me.
This narrative keeps going on.
The world keeps getting more dangerous.
And with every terrorist attack and every shooting, what are we going to ban now?
We're going to ban trucks.
Nobody can drive a truck if you use the insane logic of Hillary and Barack Obama.
Because trucks cause what happened in Nice and France.
Anyway, with every day, every attack, every shooting, I'll tell you this, it proves that Donald Trump was way ahead of the curve on issues like immigration and building the wall and refugees.
You know, the difference between Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Donald Trump on the refugee issue alone is profound and it is deep, and it will have severe consequences to this country.
When the national director of intelligence tells you, the American people, that ISIS will infiltrate the refugee population.
And John Kerry of Tuesday of this week, I'll play it later.
Yeah, we're gonna meet the September deadline to bring in the refugees.
And then Hillary Clinton wants a five hundred and fifty percent increase in refugees.
Now it's easy for her to say she's got Secret Service Armed Guard security with her at all times.
Well, we don't have that in our lives, most people, do we?
We don't have security guards.
I'll actually have some in at the convention.
I usually just secure myself.
That's why I train as hard as I do, and why I carry my Glock or Smith and Wesson.
But the reality is you have the National Director of Intelligence, you have the FBI director, Clapper and Comey, the assistant FBI director Steinbeck, House Homeland Security Chairman, you have the CIA director, Brennan, you have the former special envoy of Obama to defeat ISIS, all telling us that ISIS will infiltrate the refugee population.
John Kerry bragging that they are willing to gamble with your life and bring them in anyway, and then put them in small towns and big cities all across America.
He said this on Tuesday.
Tonight, I can announce proudly that we will meet President Obama's goal of welcoming 10,000 serious refugees to the United States in the current fiscal year.
Thank you.
Now, those are refugees, which is different from normal process of migration and green card and becoming a citizen and so forth.
It's a very different category.
It's also representing six-fold increase over what we did the year before.
It is unbelievable if every intelligence official warns you and you do it anyway, and people die, you will have blood on your hands.
Sorry, that is just a fact.
You've been warned by every top intelligence official in this country, and when Americans die, I blame you.
I blame you, Obama, I blame you, Hillary, I blame you, John Kerry, and all of your liberal friends that support this.
Now, how can one person be so wrong so often on such an important issue less than two years ago?
Oh, ISIS is the JV team.
Junior varsity team, you know, just because you put on a Lakers uniform, remember Obama said that?
And then the president said that the JV team was contained.
Well, that was three days before the an earlier Paris attack.
From the start, our goal has been first to contain.
And we have contained them.
They have not gained it.
All right, that's enough.
They haven't gained well, the attack occurred three days later.
And then in response to what happened yesterday, last night, Hillary Clinton calls into the Fox News channel.
She's so desperate now being underwater in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, tied in Connecticut.
And the announcement of Pence, I think I I'm so impressed with the I did my own vetting last night.
I spent hours vetting Mike Pence.
I learned so much about him that I didn't know.
He's been on the program many times.
I should have known, I guess.
Anyway, and then Hillary calls into Fox and says this.
What is happening now is we are taking territory back in Iraq.
We are squeezing them with consistent uh air attacks.
We have killed a number of their leaders.
Uh assuming we are successful and American military leadership is in the uh hunt on this in Mosul.
Uh we are pushing the Turks.
They are they have moved far more than uh they had, and in fact, probably the attack at the Istanbul uh airport was because the Turks are really cracking down.
What is she talking about?
This is a pin prick strikes.
This is not a war.
This is not how you wage a war.
This is not, you know, Newt Gingrich was on Hannity last night.
And he focused on things.
He actually said this is a war against Western civilization.
He said Sharia is incompatible with American values.
He said we are dealing with medieval barbarians, and he is under huge fire from groups like care today.
Let's play his remarks.
And let me be as blunt and as direct as I can be.
Western civilization is in a war.
We should frankly test every person from here who's who is of a Muslim background, and if they believe in Sharia, they should be deported.
Sharia is incompatible with Western civilization.
Modern Muslims who have given up Sharia, glad to have them as citizens.
Perfectly happy to have them next door.
But we need to be fairly relentless about defining who our enemies are.
Anyone who goes on a website favoring ISIS or Al Qaeda or other terrorist groups, that should be a felony, and they should go to jail.
Any organization which hosts such a website should be engaged in a felony, it should be closed down immediately.
Our forces should be used to systematically destroy every internet based source, and frankly, if we can't destroy them through the internet, we should destroy them with kinetic power, using various weapons, starting with predators, uh and and just frankly just killing them.
You know, we have discussed at length on this program the money that Hillary has taken from all these Muslim countries.
By the way, can you tell uh my friends over there to have those countries in the list of the money given to the Clinton Foundation for tonight?
Uh as long as I'm thinking about it, I'll forget by the time I go to break.
But Sharia has practiced in Saudi Arabia where the Clintons took twenty-five million dollars for the foundation and ten million dollars for the Clinton Library, and they bought Hillary Clinton's silence.
Well, okay, if you're gay and lesbian in Saudi Arabia, the penalty is death.
You can get the death penalty.
Uh if you want to build a Christian church or a Jewish temple, you cannot build it in Saudi Arabia.
If you if you are a woman, Miss Champion of Women's Rights, you are told how to dress.
You must you can't leave the house without a male relative.
You cannot drive a car.
In other Muslim countries, then we're talking about more severity in terms of genital mutilation and all sorts of other horrific treatment of women, and Hillary Clinton took money from many of these countries with their horrific practice of Sharia.
And uh, you know, putting aside the and I think people got distracted.
I think Newt was talking more about bringing people in from countries that practice Sharia.
How do you possibly ascertain if you grow up under Sharia and you grow up with a mindset that says I can tell women how to dress, uh, gays and lesbians get put to death, women can't drive a car, a man decides if a woman goes to school or work.
How do you possibly overcome that?
If you grow up prejudiced towards Christians and Jews and you don't believe in freedom of religion, if you grow up with this with this hatred of gays and lesbians, if you grow up in a society that treats women like third class citizens, how do we possibly know whether or not you want to advance the caliphate, which is spreading Islam and having Sharia as worldwide law?
That's what the caliphate is, a domination of the world and worldwide sharia, or if you want freedom and you want a new life and you want the breath of freedom and you want to leave oppression.
How do we know the difference?
Now we're told by our top intelligence officials that ISIS will infiltrate the refugee population.
And then we've got a bunch of people here.
They have failed Obama and Hillary in spectacular fashion.
They're willing to gamble with your life.
In the case of Hillary, she's willing to gamble another 550% more than Obama and bringing in refugees.
We're told that ISIS will infiltrate.
They've opened up the door that the contained JV team that is apparently contained again, according to Hillary, is not even Islamic according to Obama.
They have a stronghold in Iraq and Syria because of them pulling out early.
They have also, you know, by giving rise to ISIS in Syria and Iraq and the money to fund and finance their terror.
They give 150 billion dollars to the number one state sponsor of terror, Iran.
They supported the former Muslim Brotherhood head Mohammed Morsi in Egypt, who once referred to the Israelis as descendants of apes and pigs.
They can't even identify radical Islamists by name.
They use euphemisms like workplace violence, overseas contingency operations, and man-caused disasters.
And yes, this is a war against the West.
This is a these values are incompatible.
Sharia values are incompatible.
There is no way to bridge the gap between freedom and tyranny.
And if you live under Sharia and you believe in treating women like third class citizens, and you believe you can kill gays and lesbians, and you can't build a church or synagogue, I see no reconciliation between those value systems.
None whatsoever.
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The polls are now literally scaring the living daylights out of Democrats.
They are in total freakout mode.
Well, I see this is happening.
Trayvon Martin's mother is a headline speaker at the Democratic Convention.
But anyway, looking at these poll numbers, I mean, she's now losing in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida.
If Donald Trump and Mike Pence win Pennsylvania, Florida, and Ohio game over.
Donald Trump will be the president.
Mike Pence will be the vice president.
You know, in the lead up to this, and I know we did our own polls on Hannity.com and New King Rich won, and I know that I said I preferred Newt Gingrich.
I've known him since 1990.
And what did I be saying about Mike Pence?
I've I have nothing bad to say about the guy.
So I did my own vetting last night thinking that the reports were true and having a little bit of inside information that I made promises not to share.
I am more than impressed at his credentials.
His fidelity to the Constitution.
I am more than impressed with his faith and his views on foreign policy, and more than convinced that he has always shown that he is not going to be a part of the establishment.
There's a great piece on Breitbart.
Later on, by the way, Breitbart London editor is going to the Breitbart London editor is going to be on the program, Rahim Qassam.
And we're going to talk about the Islamization of Europe.
We have poll numbers data and studies and and the choice of Mike Pence, a discussion with Kellyanne Conway and Doug Schoen coming up.
But there's a really good piece by Ken Kwokowski and Breitbart today about Mike Pence that gives a lot of detail about him.
He served 12 years in Congress, rose to the leadership in Congress.
If you don't know, he was once a radio talk show host himself.
I think he once said that he was rushed without the caffeine or something to that extent, or conservative that is not angry.
And I don't think most can that's a false narrative in my mind that conservative talk show hosts are angry.
I've dealt with it my whole life.
Yeah, photographers come in to photograph me during the show.
They can stay here for three hours.
And the only sh the only shot they will use, and this is just a fact is one of me screen what looks like the worst shot that they can ever take.
So what I tell repor what I tell photographers now is here, I'll look angry and I'll open my mouth really wide and I'll put my hands up in the air, take your shot and go.
What's the point?
Because that's the one they're going to run anyway.
Anyway, so um, if you look at it, he served twelve years in Congress, once a radio talk show host.
He has been anti-establishment pretty much his entire life, and I'll give you some of the evidence of that.
He was elected the chairman of the Republican Study Committee.
That's the organization for conservatives in the House, uh, so they could coordinate their efforts and maximize conservative outcomes.
Um Pence also opposed George W. Bush's proposals to expand government.
When Republicans lost the House in 2006, Pence took the ultimate anti-establishment stance and he ran against John Boehner.
So he was way ahead of the curve.
That was even before I said Boehner needs to go.
And he garnered 30 votes and eventually probably laid the foundation and set the stage for Boehner's exit.
Anyway, so at the end of the day, Boehner and the GOP establishment had to offer him a position in House leadership, making him the chairman of the Republican caucus, the number four position in the majority after the speaker, majority leader, and majority whip.
So they did it basically because he was too powerful a voice.
If you look at his personal life, it's beyond impressive.
He was born Catholic.
He's a born-again Christian.
He became that in college.
He uh has been married 30 years to his wife Karen.
They have a Bible study group that they attend regularly.
He quotes the Bible and scripture uh often in his speeches.
I think that's gonna help with a lot of evangelicals uh who, though, have been supporting Trump anyway.
But he's been married 30 years.
I think the idea of six marriages between former speaker of the House, Newt Kingrich, and Donald Trump was in some people's minds an obstacle.
Um I don't make such judgments about people, but some people do.
Um it's like a Norman Rockwell painting as uh as Ken Klukowski pointed out in his piece.
But anyway, it's um certainly he has constitutional conservative credentials.
It's interesting in his speeches.
The Breitbart piece points out that he often quotes, I'm a Christian, a conservative, and a Republican in that order.
Well, I would say the same thing, except that I'm just not the greatest Christian in the world and don't go to church as much as I should, and I'm just not as good as as people that I know that are really good Christians, like Jerry Falwell Jr., and I've told him and his wife that I went to dinner with them recently with Franklin Graham in New York, and I said, I'm just not as good a Christian as all of you.
I want you to know you're like Jesus sitting at the table with sinners.
And they all laughed at me.
And I but I know you know, I went to the I studied theology and Latin in high school.
I believe everything in the Bible.
I believe it's true.
Absolutely I believe that Jesus is the son of God was sent to earth to reconcile man to God, our father and our creator, and suffered, died, and was buried in Rose again.
I believe all that.
I know it's true.
Yes, let he who is not sincast the first stone, Ms. Linda.
That is true.
Anyway, so um I know the left is jumped on him for all of that.
He regularly invokes Ronald Reagan.
He believes in the three-legged coalition of Reagan, Economic, social, and national security conservatives on taxes.
This was pretty interesting to me, a fact that I didn't know.
When the Tea Party held its first major rally in 2010 in Washington, D.C., Mike Pence was the only member of leadership from either the House or Senate to speak.
So he joined the Tea Party movement.
He believed in limited government.
He understood people were angry about Obamacare.
Anyway, he denounced out of control federal spending.
That's why he challenged Boehner.
Boehner nearly signed on to and wouldn't use the power of the purse, five trillion in debt.
Well, that's not an opposition party.
That's a rubber stamp party.
On taxes, Pence wants a flat tax.
I've always liked the flat tax.
I think if I had my choice, I would go with the with the consumption tax, the national sales tax, and get rid of and abolish the IRS.
But the flat tax, I think would work so much better where all Americans get a standard deduction, additional credit, exemptions for children, and beyond that, all Americans pay the same percentage in taxes.
Now Pence as governor is repeatedly cut taxes, created a lot of jobs.
He has a two billion dollar surplus in the state of Indiana.
Wouldn't that be nice to apply to our country and stop stealing from future generations?
Anyway, he uh also took a pretty strong approach.
He's one of the original co-sponsors of the joint resolution in the House offered with the Senate for a balanced budget amendment.
And he's fighting for the exact same thing in Indiana right now, and I think it's actually in the legislators' hands, and I think it's going to be sent to the people of Indiana, which was a great thing for the people of Indiana.
He's pushed for a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution there.
He also opposed federal bailouts.
He opposed economic interventions.
He called for returning control of education to the states and local communities, and as governor, he did it.
He opposed power grabs by the EPA, National Labor Relations Board, the FCC.
He is foremost and been opposing Obamacare, his Congressman.
You know, he's uh, you know, he has a different style than Trump.
He actually doesn't like negative campaigning.
That's interesting because that's a big role of a vice president.
I'll ask him about that tonight.
You know, he voted against Obama's air strike in war in Libya because of Article I, citing Article I of the Constitution, and he said that only Congress can declare war.
And he is technically right.
Not technically, he is right.
There's no technicality to it here.
And he stood on his constitutional principles.
So he's always advocated a strong commander in chief for military matters, but not at the expense of enumerated powers of Congress.
Now, if you look at the current Congress, they have ceded their constitutional authority and enumerated powers on a whole variety of things.
They won't use the power of the purse to defund aspects of Obamacare.
They won't use it to stop illegal, unconstitutional executive amnesty.
On the issues of immigration and trade as it relates to Trump, they're a pretty good fit.
In 2006, when the GOP was considering amnesty, full-scale amnesty, Pence rejected the concept outright.
He said that because part of what makes America exceptional is the rule of law.
An immigrant's first action joining this country cannot be breaking the law through illegal entry, he said.
He called for legislation requiring every illegal alien to leave the country at the point of entry.
They can then register and apply to re-enter.
Some people don't like that aspect of it, but he's he's taken a much harder stand than 99% of Republicans in Washington.
Anyway, some have called it shadow amnesty, but it kind of, you know, Trump says you got to go home and then apply and then come back legally.
We'll see what happens on all that, but it's like a leaky boat.
You got to first plug the hole.
We got to build the wall first.
Secure the borders first.
You know, he's uh he seems that he's been willing to fight on the things that he's most passionate about and on trade, you know, in his own home state, he's he's been apparently took this big trip to Japan, trade missions he's been on and other countries to convince them to do business with Indiana businesses and provide Hoosiers with great paying jobs.
Good for him.
It's like all these governors from Texas and Florida.
Rick Perry was up here all the time.
Why?
He was here to get New York businesses to move to Texas.
Rick Scott of Florida comes up.
Anonymous, I'm in town.
You want to see me?
Yeah, I'd love to.
Come on in.
I'm here to steal jobs from New York.
I'm here to offer businesses a better work environment with less regulation and less taxes.
And they kept winning, too.
That's the funny thing.
Bobby Gindle, same thing.
Smart on their part.
So Pence flying around the world trying to get prop up business for Indiana and Hoosier's is smart.
I like that.
One of the things the media will harp on is this religious freedom restoration act that he signed, guaranteeing that people could live their daily lives, operate their businesses consistent with their religious faith.
That goes to the issue of all right, you own a bakery, and this was a real life example.
Somebody that comes in, they want a wedding cake for a gay or lesbian wedding.
So they would have the right to practice their religion freely.
Anyway, it created a backlash.
They signed a fix to the bill that left faith-owned businesses without the protection in the first statute, but also serving protections for clergy, churches, and faith-based institutions, so there was a compromise on it, but I'm sure the media is going to make a big deal about that.
And uh he didn't expect it to happen.
Anyway, long story short.
The uh Pence got his footing in to push for religious liberty, opposing a proposed sexual orientation and gender identity bill that would have given special rights to the LGBT community.
Uh, you know, I gotta be honest in my mind, with everything that's going on with ISIS and 95 million Americans not working and 50 million in poverty and 46 uh million on food stamps.
I gotta be honest, this is not in my head.
I think most Americans are fairly libertarian.
He is an originalist.
He believes that the Constitution, that a judge, the the co-equal branches of government.
He believes that um the Constitution is the supreme law of our land, and the American people and those that wrote it understood the words to Carrie when they were adopting it.
He's so he's he's just like Scalia.
He made an appointment of a very consistent legal conservative in that state, Justice Jeffrey Slaughter, I'm told was one of great justice.
Maybe he should be on the Supreme Court list too.
And uh so I think he probably would be in touch with Trump on that issue.
Um he's got a very different manner, very Midwestern.
As Trump is very New York, he's very Midwestern.
You know why I like to I have a place in the western part of Florida.
Now, the East Coast of Florida, like Palm Beach, all that area, it's basically New York and New Jersey.
I live in New York and New Jersey.
I'm on the west coast of Florida to get away from the people in New York and New Jersey who annoy me.
Because there are a lot of liberals in New York and New Jersey.
And the people on the West Coast of Florida and the Gulf side of Florida, where I got a I got a condo in Naples, Florida, Fox uh news radio down there, and Fort Myers is my home down there, and I only go two weeks a year anyway.
It's not like I'm living there, so I can't get the benefits of Florida taxes anyway.
They're all Midwesterners, and they are the nicest, kindest, greatest people in the world.
They're from Indiana, Ohio, you know, fly over country.
And you know what?
They're the coolest people I ever met.
God, faith, family, and country.
That's how I am.
So he uh was born and raised there in Indiana, went to school in Indiana, he's a lawyer, knows a lot.
He grew up in overlooking cornfields, and as governor, he has done a lot of great work for the state.
Um I think there's gonna be a lot of focus and attention on some tweets.
One tweet in particular that he put out that was the call to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. are offensive and unconstitutional.
He once tweeted out trade means jobs, but it also, but trade also means security.
The time has come to adopt the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
Those are areas of disagreement with Trump.
There's not one person that's ever.
I mean, do you agree with your wife all the time?
Do you agree with your husband all the time?
Nobody agrees on everything all the time.
Yeah, right.
I'm sure you and Lenny agree on everything.
Give me a break.
I've heard you two fighting.
What are you talking about?
I've heard you screaming at him.
And Lenny goes, I don't know how you deal with it every day.
Lenny actually said that to me about you.
I swear to God.
All right.
So Mike Pence will be on Hannity tonight, 10 Eastern on the Fox News Channel.
The Democrats are scared, you know what, over these poll numbers, Trump ahead in key swing states.
And uh the complete announcement will be tomorrow.
So tune in Hannity tonight at 10.
It's Gasfield Day in Nice.
And everybody's just been sort of running in one direction for their lives.
And everybody's really shrieked out.
It sounded like an attack in Beirut.
I know that sounds crazy to say, and I said to my friend, this doesn't sound like fireworks.
sounds like Beirut when it's under attack.
We saw one body.
I saw a stroller that had been crushed.
Saw street signs and other debris.
But when we were walking back from the Hyatt to our hotel, there were bodies every bodies and blood everywhere.
It was just I'm I'm in complete shock.
There's just it was unbelievable carnage.
And let me be as blunt and as direct as I can be.
Western civilization is in a war.
We should frankly test every person from here who's who is of a Muslim background, and if they believe in Sharia, they should be deported.
Sharia is incompatible with Western civilization.
Modern Muslims who have given up Sharia, glad to have them as citizens.
Perfectly happy to have them next door.
But we need to be fairly relentless about defining who our enemies are.
Anyone who goes on a website favoring ISIS or Al Qaeda or other terrorist groups, that should be a felony, and they should go to jail.
Any organization which hosts such a website should be engaged in a felony.
It should be closed down immediately.
Our forces should be used to systematically destroy every internet-based source.
And frankly, if we can't destroy them through the internet, we should destroy them with kinetic power, using various weapons starting with predators, uh, and and just frankly just killing them.
In the wake of last night's attacks, we've heard more suggestions that all Muslims in America be targeted.
Tested for their beliefs, some deported or jailed.
And the very suggestion is repugnant and an affront to everything that we stand for as Americans.
We cannot give in to fear or turn on each other or sacrifice our way of life.
We cannot let ourselves be divided by religion, because that's exactly what the terrorists want.
We should never do their work for them.
All right, that was the president.
Again, you know, but I guess if it was the Crusades or the terrible deeds done in the name of Christ, he would have no problem talking about that openly.
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Uh a couple of notes here.
Donald Trump has tapped Mike Pence, the governor of Indiana, he will be his running mate.
And his first interview tonight with me on Hannity on the Fox News Channel, on top of the polls that came out earlier this week, yesterday showing that Donald Trump is winning in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida.
Uh he has a seven-point lead in the Rasmussen polls, CBS News and New York Times poll, it's even at 40.
We have an LA Times poll where Trump is leading Hillary by three points.
So there has been a dramatic shift in terms of the the what's going on on the ground in the lead up to the Republican convention, which begins Monday, programming note two.
We have Pence tonight at ten, as I said, and we also will be in Cleveland Sunday night, a special edition of Hannity at nine o'clock, and then all next week radio and TV from the convention site.
It's all part of the best election coverage on radio and television.
Now, if you are watching what happened yesterday and watching what's been happening with shootings and watching San Bernardino and watching Chattanooga and watching Fort Hood and and watching Orlando, Florida and watching Belgium and watching multiple attacks in France, you know that we have major problems and it's now at the forefront of this presidential election.
And that is, for example, immigration, having open borders where people yeah, there are a lot of people that come here because they want a better life and they want jobs.
There are also people that come here with the intentions to bring harm to American towns and cities, big and small.
Or as I said at the beginning of the last hour, we know for a fact that our top intelligence officials in the country, all of them, have stated that ISIS will infiltrate the refugee population.
Well, Hillary Clinton is now planning to bring not only a five hundred fifty percent increase in the number of refugees into the country, which John Kerry was bragging about on Tuesday, but if elected president, according to Breitbart, she could permanently resettle close to one million Muslim migrants during the first term of her presidency alone.
I want my first question is are they coming from countries that practice Sharia?
Now, in the last number of years, we have s resettled one point five million Muslim migrants and they have green cards.
Under Hillary Clinton stated proposals, Muslim immigration would grow substantially faster, adding nearly one million Muslim migrants to the U.S. during her first term alone.
Now the question we have here, and I know what Newt Gingrich said is being viewed as controversial, but the fact is that if you grow up in a country that believes in the death penalty for gays and lesbians like Saudi Arabia, you know, big donor of the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Library,
and the death penalty for gays and for lesbians, you can't build a church or a synagogue, and women are told they how to dress, they can't drive, they can't go to school or work without permission, can't leave the house without a male relative with them.
Do you bring those values or do you want to assimilate and adopt American values?
In other words, there is a conflict of civilization.
And Sharia is at war.
See, it is incompatible with Western civilization as practiced in these Muslim countries.
And what Newt also went on to say is we've got to be relentless in identifying those that want to practice this radical form of Sharia.
Anyway, joining us now to discuss Rich Higgins, Vice President, intelligence, national security programs, former manager with the Department of Defense combating terrorism, technical support office, and irregular warfare, special ops support program, Jonathan Gillam, Navy SEAL, former FBI and Federal FBI guy and then Federal Air Marshal, Ami Horowitz, political satirist.
Rich Higgins, let me start with you.
What is your reaction to all this?
Sean, you know, I I just think back to 2001.
If Bin Laden were alive today, what he would think.
You know, the United States is twenty trillion dollars in debt.
We're worried about climate change, Iraq and Afghanistan under Sharia law, Mubarak's gone, Ben Ali's gone, Qaddafi's gone, Saleh's gone.
You have Islamic insurgencies beginning all over Europe.
And you know, here we are.
Doing you know basically Hamas doing business as care, visited Congress last year 250 times.
We have uh jihadis and suits showing up on TV telling us you know Islam has nothing to do with it, and we have silence from our Middle Eastern allies on this, and you know, three hours from now we're gonna have uh the first U.S. day of rage, which is an Islamic term of art.
I mean, it's just surreal.
Jonathan Gillam, you know this, you've studied this, this has been a a part of your work and your adult life.
Uh does it surprise you that Hillary Clinton says today, oh no, we're we're pushing them back.
Oh, they're contained, she said on the Fox News channel last night.
It it surprises me and not surprise it does not surprise me based on what I know after being an FBI agent and uh following criminals year after year and studying how they think.
And this entire administration, this entire group of global elitists are working to fool all the people in the world just like they fooled them in France.
You know, last night after that attack, the French president came on and said, I mean, immediately truck was still in the road and said France is now in a state of mourning.
And I just I texted out, you know, just now I'm like, man, you better get into a state of war if you want to defeat these people.
And you know, I think Theodore Roosevelt said it best.
He said, if you want to come to this country, it is predicated upon the man becoming in very fact an American and nothing but an American.
You don't come here and expect America to change to your values.
How do you know if somebody is coming from a country with values that are are just the antithesis of our of our values?
How do you how do you know what it is they're their intention is?
How do you ascertain that?
I mean I don't think it's really that hard depending on where they're coming from.
I mean if they're coming from a an Islamic country that practices Sharia law, automatically we should have pause before and ask the question why do you want to come here?
Are you a Christian that's fleeing?
Are you a non practicing Muslim?
And we but the problem is it's not like if the FBI wants to do a background check on me, they can go back to my entire life.
How are you going to trace these people's heritage back?
You can't.
There's just no there's no possible way.
And I think what Newt Gingrich just said, I think he needs to be the czar of enforcement.
I think what he just said backs up what Donald Trump said, and it backs up what the majority of American people are thinking, and that is that something has to change because we are going down a road of domination by groups like Islamic Fundamentalists and now, like Black Lives Matters, and the Black Panthers who are taking the same ideology, the same tactics, techniques, and perspectives,
procedures to further their cause and if you're going to see what happened in World War II with the Germans and the Japanese playing off of each other's power um when they attack and and when they're fighting the wars, you're going to see the same thing with these extremist terrorist groups and yeah I did just call BLM let me bring Ami Horowitz in here.
Ami after the Charlie Ebdo attacks you interviewed refugees in Berlin last year and you also interviewed French Muslims and why don't we play what you got here and then explain the context in which you did this okay?
Sure.
All right we don't have that tape.
I thought you did have that tape.
Why don't you explain what happened?
All right let me so what happened was I went to I've been to France a number of times I spent times in the areas where where where Muslims are concentrated in Paris and in Marseille the so called no go zones.
I spent time with the youth in these cities and I interviewed them on camera and what I found was startling and it was scary and exactly what we're seeing the manifestation of those views is what we're seeing today in these attacks in Paris and in Nice and so forth.
And what you found is that there is an absolute acceptance of terrorism as legitimate means for Islamic self-expression.
And it's not just the anecdotal interviews I did.
Pew Research, Pew, did a poll last year where the kids under 30 were Islamic in France.
Forty percent of them think that suicide bombings are justified against the West all of the time.
Not some of the time, not rarely, all of the time.
Forty percent of kids under 30.
It is frightening.
And they're only now waking up to this danger because it's being expressed through the attacks.
that we're seeing in France all the time.
Yeah.
You know I wanna I want to go and I want to read something to everybody in my audience here.
Now ISIS Al Qaeda they have been telegraphing for a very very long time.
Now I keep saying we have a pre-911 they've been telegraphing for a long time that they want these types of attacks to happen.
For example, there's a propaganda magazine from Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.
It's called Inspire.
This is what they wrote in 2010.
The idea is to use a pickup truck as a mowing machine, not to mow grass, but to mow down the enemies of Allah.
To achieve maximum carnage, you need to pick up as much speed as you can while retaining good control of your vehicle.
The ideal location is a place where there are a maximum number of pedestrians and the least number of vehicles.
In fact, if you can get through to a pedestrian-only location that exists in some downtown areas, that's best.
What's your reaction to this?
that Rich Higgins uh you know Sean I think the tactics these guys use and the weapons that they use we you know we we can we can focus on that I think the Department of Defense has done that I mean to tell you what what I I have a recommendation.
Number one is we need to stop being the Department of Defense and be the Department of War again.
We need a war plan.
We need Congress to investigate and remove the subversives, just like New Gingrich.
We're just saying they're inside the executive branch.
They're inside the national security apparatus.
We need to halt the immigration that Mr. Trump has proposed under the McCarrell Walter Act.
We need to declare the Muslim Brotherhood and its affiliates illegal and unleash the FBI on them.
And then we need to declare war on the Islamic movement right now.
And that includes the organization of Islamic cooperation, the Muslim Brotherhood and their affiliates and Al Qaeda and ISIS and all the rest of them, whatever the flavor du jour is.
And you know, I don't care if they're using a truck or a box cutter or Obama.
It doesn't matter, it's the same enemy.
Jonathan?
I agree totally with Rich.
And when you know when we co-hosted your show last week, we talked heavily about this in that we don't declare war on enemies anymore, and we have people who have declared war on us, and st and the rhetoric that's coming out of Obama's mouth and Hillary's mouth is we need to uh love our enemy or the people around them, and this is a radical group.
Listen, I said it once, I'll say it a thousand times.
This is fundamental Islam.
This these are the fundamentals that were practiced by Muhammad, and it's the fundamentals techniques, tactics, and procedures that are being used by these people now.
We either get on a war footing or we are gonna end up in the same position as France is in, where we have leaders that don't know how to react and won't react when things happen.
All right, I gotta thank you all for being with us.
Appreciate it.
I wish we had more time.
And let me be as blunt and as direct as I can be.
Western civilization is in a war.
We should frankly test every person from here who's who is of a Muslim background, and if they believe in Sharia, they should be deported.
Sharia is incompatible with Western civilization.
Modern Muslims who have given up Sharia, glad to have them as citizens.
Perfectly happy to have them next door.
But we need to be fairly relentless about defining who our enemies are.
Anyone who goes on a website favoring ISIS uh or al Qaeda or other terrorist groups, that should be a felony and they should go to jail.
Any organization which hosts such a website should be engaged in a felony, it should be closed down immediately.
Our forces should be used to systematically destroy every internet based source, and frankly, if we can't destroy them through the internet, we should destroy them with kinetic power using various weapons starting with predators, uh and and just frankly just killing them.
All right, 25 now till the top of the hour, Sean Hannity Show, 800 941.
Sean, you want to be a part of the program following our two top stories today.
It is now confirmed.
Mike Pence, governor of the great state of Indiana is Donald Trump's running mate.
He will join me tonight on Hannity on the Fox News Channel for what will be his first interview.
And of course, we have the aftermath of these terrible terrorist attacks that took place in Nice and France, and we now have confirmed eighty-four dead, including women and children, as well as uh fifty plus injured, and we still don't have a final number on any of these things.
Here to go through all of this in the election, Kellyanne Conway is the founder, the president of the polling company.
And I understand she spent some time with Mike Pence today, Doug Schoen, polster, author, political analyst for Fox News, and uh a guy that said as a Democrat the person he did not want picked was Mike Pence.
Uh welcome both of you to the program.
Thank you, Sean.
Thank you, Sean.
Hi Doug.
Kellyanne, let's start I you want I understand you spent some time with Mike Pence today.
I'll see him a little later tonight.
Uh uh tell us about uh the meeting.
Well, the vice president nominee is uh in great spirits today.
He and Mr. Trump are meeting at the private residence in Trump Tower, and uh I think that he and his family are handling this newly found attention very well.
Um they seem very comfortable together, the rapport is there.
And Sean, you know, I think the finalists, uh particularly Christie and Newt and Pence would have been all great picks for Donald Trump.
I could see the value uh in each of them, and I hope that the two who have not been chosen will be very involved in his campaign and his administration.
But uh it sounds that that in in Mike Pence, Donald Trump recognizes there's a great economic story to be told out of Indiana through good conservative fiscal leadership and the entire Rust Belt, Midwest.
Uh there's twelve years in Congress, ten on the foreign affairs committee.
You see what's happening all around the world.
You see the very feckless, feeble non response coming from Obama and Hillary Clinton, who even seems forced to call into the Fox News channel now and follow Donald Trump's lead.
Uh we've got we need something different in Washington.
This is a change election, it's a choice election.
You see already the way the left is responding to Mike Pence as a pick.
Uh there they say Donald Trump's just doubling down on his extremism.
They really don't know what to do with these with this ticket.
I think it's a winning ticket.
And uh today, Governor Pence is getting ready for tomorrow's speech and for Wednesday night's speech out there in Cleveland where we'll be together.
Let me ask you this question, because I uh I you know, I forgot a lot of about Mike Pence's background and in preparing for this interview for tonight.
Um I I got to s learn things that I didn't know.
First up, we'll go over the Indiana track record.
He has some very impressive numbers to to gloat about, I think, in terms of a state that has recovered and and done very well while other states have suffered.
But uh he was the first person to give a speech at the T at a tea party rally, the first congressman.
He challenged John Boehner, didn't win, but he challenged him early on because he didn't like spending.
He has been a a fierce uh supporter of bill of immigration and agrees with Donald Trump on I would say, except maybe for the Iraq war and a couple of other minor issues, they seem to be in full agreement on everything.
They are.
He was one of the first governors, if not the first, to come out and say actually that he wanted to have a a ban on the Syria A Syrian refugees when uh when all that was going on, he came under criticism, of course, from the left, but that's bold leadership and very in keeping with what Mr. Trump is saying as a presidential nominee.
The other thing is um, you know, Mike Pence is a hundred percent v uh voting record with APAC.
He's the NRA, yeah, NRA, all the life groups.
Um and there's there's a couple other things I would add.
You know, the Indiana economic record is not just your Garden variety fiscal surplus.
He's sitting on a two billion dollar surplus.
You know, can these Democrats in these big cities, these mayors and these governors, uh make the same claim.
They've expanded charter schools and school choice in Indiana in a way that puts it i uh uh in the top tier of those alternatives to our crumbling, failing public school system in many places in this country.
And um and and the other thing is he's he's got a great way about him.
You you'll you'll appreciate this, Sean.
He had his own radio show in Indiana for many years, famously referred to himself as Rush Limba on DCAF.
Uh he says I'm a I'm a conservative but I'm not in a bad mood about it.
I think it'll be a very affable, accessible messenger.
And look, Sean, I'm worried that our party has been veering dangerously close to being the party of the elites.
And the Trump Pence ticket shows America that this is the party of the worker.
He will complete the transaction that Mr. Trump started in in dealing with the j in in speaking to the job holders and the folks in this country who say, look, everyday affordability and long-term financial security have become elusive over the last seven and a half years.
I want a political party not led by Hillary Clinton who made all the millions of dollars in Wall Street speeches.
I want I want a ticket that shows the workers they have a voice.
Doug Schoen, when I asked you the other night, who is the one person as a Democrat you didn't want Trump to pick, you said Mike Pence.
Yeah, and you said I was wrong.
But really, once again, I've been proven to be I don't think I said you were wrong, but you you both you you you Kelly had sort of yawned at me like this was uh wrong and I By the way, Kellyanne, don't you hate when your words you have to come back and eat them?
It's just so humiliating on my own radio show of of all places.
Well, they're talking about Sherrod Brown and Tom Vilsack.
So we could be super-There's only one choice, Kellyanne, which is Sherrod Brown.
And the reason you've got to do Sherrod Brown is the same reason Trump had to do Pence to protect Hillary's left flank.
Because she's got to cover the Bernie vote.
Pence is a good choice because he covers social conservatives.
And Kellyanne, your arguments are right.
I don't say that, obviously, as a partisan, but as an analyst.
And Hillary needs to do the very same and compete in the Midwest.
That's why she must, at a time, Sean, where I can eat my words.
Now, you're very gracious, always- But here I'll eat my words.
I've been telling you that Hillary's ahead, she's in a comfortable position.
While the electoral college advantage continues to exist, her lead does not continue to exist.
This race is a tie, and because it's a tie with her at 40 and Donald at 40 and the swing states all tied.
This is advantage Donald Trump.
I'm sure uh Kelly had to be a good thing.
Well, let's go through the numbers that you're talking about here.
You got a Rasmussen poll.
This is you know, I don't like head to head nationwide matchup polls, but they they are an indicator, and Rasmussen has Trump up by seven.
Even the New York Times CBS News poll had it tied at 40 all.
And if you look state by state, I mean, some impressive numbers in Senate races, some impressive numbers in in Hillary versus Trump.
I mean, you've got Portman up by seven in the state of Ohio.
You got Toomey up by ten in Pennsylvania.
You got Rubio up by thirteen and twelve, respectively, in polls down in Florida.
You got the president's job approval rating at 46.
And then if you look at the head-to-head polls in Pennsylvania, Florida, and Ohio, if you include Gary Johnson, Donald Trump is beating Hillary head to head in all three of those states in the latest polls.
Look, I I see it and worst case for Donald, the race is tied.
But I think Kellyanne, you'd agree with me for Trump to go into the convention sp having spent no money uh in swing states, tied with Hillary, and Hillary down at forty, even if Sean is overstating the case, which he may it's still a I have never been accused of that in my entire career.
That is an outrage.
But but but what is not an outrage is that Hillary's on the ropes now.
You would both agree with that.
That's right.
We agree with it, and of course, her I mean, Doug, her responses to these terrorist attacks in the United States and abroad are always so feeble and so feckless that you can't help but think she would be just like Obama.
And the the president President Alanda France is right.
If we don't do anything to change it, then nothing's good then not everything will be the same.
We'll be dealing with this once a week.
I want to mention another point, because Doug's one of the most honest Democrats we know, Sean, and he just admitted that Hillary Clinton outspending Donald Trump forty to one, forty to zero on paid advertising.
She's run sixty-six thousand ads.
Think about that, mainly in these swing states.
Uh what she doesn't understand is that you can't do conventional politics anymore if you're running against Donald Trump.
And she's trying to do the old playbook, and let me tell you something.
Doug knows it too.
There's no substitute for a quality candidate.
You can have all the King's horses, all the King's men, all the accoutrements of a modern campaign, your ground game, your date operation, your paid advertising.
If you don't have a compelling inspirational, magnetic candidate that people want to listen to and vote for, the rest is just noise.
Yeah, and I I look, she's a horrible candidate.
And getting worse.
And getting worse.
Uh you know, apparently there was a meeting yesterday, Doug, where the headline is Democrats are freaked out about the polls in the meeting with Clinton.
Uh I just gave you the poll numbers.
She is now at sixty-seven percent of the American people do not find her to be honest and trustworthy, and fifty-seven percent warrant her, thought that she should have been indicted as it relates to the email.
Right.
Look, Sean, two things she should do.
The first is what Kellyanne said, and I say this as an um American non-partisan democrat.
Declare war on ISIS and tell the president, in no uncertain terms, to send massive numbers of troops and air strikes to kill as many as we can, as Newt said.
Because this is a war.
It's a war for civilization.
And Sean, this is not about the Republicans and the Democrats.
It's about right and wrong and our survival.
And the next thing she should do is begin more negative ads.
But let me let me go.
Well, she's already spent forty million on negative ads.
Okay, but she goes on O'Reilly last night and she says we're beating ISIS.
I I mean happening now is we are taking territory back in Iraq.
We are squeezing them with in consistent uh air attacks.
We have killed a number of their leaders.
Uh assuming we are successful, and American military leadership is in the uh hunt on this in Mosul.
Uh we are pushing the Turks.
They are they have moved far more than uh they had, and in fact, probably the attack at the Istanbul uh airport was because the Turks are really cracking down.
We're not beating ISIS, they're not the JV team.
They're not contained.
How many times are they going to tell us something that is just an outright lie?
You know, the facts may be right, but the conclusion is deadly.
The facts are not right, though.
I mean we are taking territory, but they're going all over the world to kill, and that requires more than what we're doing.
That's the point.
Yeah.
Kelly Ann, I I think a statement like that after what happened yesterday, and in light, for example, it was less than two years ago the president said they were the JV team.
You know, the president says that they were contained, what, three days before the the earlier attacks in Paris.
Uh the president says the Islamic State is not Islamic.
The president lectures people about the terrible deeds done in the name of Christ and is constantly defending Islam and refuses to say radical Islamic terrorism.
It plays right into what Donald Trump is saying in his campaign, Sean, which is number one, political correctness is a big problem in this country.
We just look at the other way.
And then when when tragedies like this strike, we blame it on uh on things and circumstances and and people other than those who perpetrated the crimes.
And secondly, that people are so tired of the elites lecturing us on how to feel, how to think, what to do, what to believe, how to react.
We are so sick and tired, and we're taking we're taking our party back from the ridiculous fiction of electability, and we're taking our country back.
And the other thing is she doesn't even sound like a former Secretary of State or United States Senator when she gives these statements.
She doesn't, she seems like so non-confident in these statements, and people just don't believe it.
Part of her honest and trustworthiness problem, fellas, it didn't just start with the FBI investigation.
People don't believe that she believes what she's saying.
But look, let me ask you a command.
Doesn't it seem that Donald Trump on the refugee issue, the immigration issue?
This is now in the forefront of everybody's mind.
And Doug, even I think you have to acknowledge Trump was right in a lot of ways.
Sean, it's not a question of acknowledging.
It's being logical and rational and reasonable.
Not as a hyperpartisan, but as an American first and foremost.
Now listen, as a Democrat, I will say this about you.
As an American, you and I have always agreed, and I'll say as a Democrat, because we disagree on other things, you and I have always agreed on Israel.
We've always agreed on radical Islamic terrorism.
And for the life of you, I don't think you can figure out why your party can't acknowledge it.
I I can't figure it out, but what I can say is unless we declare war on ISIS and fight at battle as Americans rather than as hyperpartisans, we will all lose regardless of ideology or party.
According to Hillary, we're winning.
We don't need to do it.
Everything's going to need to do it, and she said as much in other parts of the interview.
I must have fallen asleep during that part.
Well, that's certainly possible.
Maybe my ears were hurting again.
She screams a lot in these these speeches she gives.
Guys, thank you both for being with us.
It's always a pleasure, Sean.
It's Bastille Day in Nice.
laughter And um everybody's just been sort of running in one direction for their lives.
Um everybody's really reached out.
It sounded like an attack in Beirut.
I know that sounds crazy to say, and I said to my friend, this doesn't sound like fireworks.
sounds like Beirut when it's under attack.
*gunshot*
We saw one body.
I saw a stroller that had been crushed, saw street signs and other debris.
But when we were walking back from the Hyatt to our hotel, there were bodies every bodies and blood everywhere.
Uh it was just I'm in complete shock.
There's just it was unbelievable carnage.
And let me be as blunt and as direct as I can be.
Western civilization is in a war.
We should frankly test every person from here who's who is of a Muslim background, and if they believe in Sharia, they should be deported.
Sharia is incompatible with Western civilization.
Modern Muslims who have given up Sharia, glad to have them as citizens.
Perfectly happy to have them next door.
But we need to be fairly relentless about defining who our enemies are.
Anyone who goes on a website favoring ISIS uh or al-Qaeda or other terrorist groups, that should be a felony, and they should go to jail.
Any organization which hosts such a website should be engaged in a felony, it should be closed down immediately.
Our forces should be used to systematically destroy every internet-based source.
And frankly, if we can't destroy them through the internet, we should destroy them with kinetic power, using various weapons starting with predators, uh, and and just frankly just killing them.
All right, news roundup information overlord hour.
This is the Sean Hannity show.
That was Newt Gingrich last night on Hannity, and prior to that you heard the sounds once again, all too familiar, and that is the sound of terror.
And that is what terror is about.
Now Newt Gingrich said a lot of things.
Of course, the group Care has spoken out against Newt Gingrich's statements.
We are at war Sharia is at war with Western civilization.
Sharia is incompatible with American and Western values.
We are dealing with medieval barbarians.
All things that he has said.
And then, of course, on the other side of this, we have the president saying ISIS is not Islamic.
They're the JV team, they're contained, and we're winning the war, Hillary Clinton said in an interview last night.
Well, how are we winning the war when incident after incident after incident after incident keeps happening and people keep dying?
And why is it they can't you know, all the euphemisms, man-caused disasters, overseas contingency operations, workplace violence.
You can't say radical Islam.
Oh, it's gonna offend a whole group of people.
No, it's not.
Anyway, joining us Pam Geller, she is the president of the American Freedom Defense Initiative and editor and publisher of Atlas Shrugs, co-author of the brand new book, The Post-American Presidency, Obama's War on America, and stop the Islamization of America.
Rahim Kassama's with us, a rare in studio appearance.
He is the editor-in-chief of Breitbart News, their London bureau.
And we have had you on, Rahim, many times after such attacks like we had in Paris yesterday.
And I keep asking you about the Islamization of Europe, because that is now a front and center issue, probably issue number one after the economy and this presidential year, and that is America's immigration policy, what to do about refugees.
Hillary wants a five hundred and fifty percent increase in refugees, even though we've been told by every national security intelligence official officer in this country that ISIS will infiltrate that population.
And I ask you, is the issue of the Islamization of Europe and their policies on immigration and their acceptance of refugees, is it responsible for these constant attacks?
You know, last night, just half an hour before the attacks happened, I had actually penned an op-ed.
Um that hasn't been published now because of the sensitivity of it.
The title of it was Europe is dying.
Um and I had a little bit a little bit more sort of sense uh and sensitivity towards the uh towards the victims of this attack than to publish it, but effectively it was saying exactly uh uh what you're asking in your question, which is that you have a French president, and you mentioned, of course, Hillary Clinton's comments and Barack Obama's comments, but you have a French president, you've had a British Prime Minister, you have a new British Prime Minister.
All of these people are doing exactly the same thing time and time again.
What happens is one of these attacks happens, they come out and say this is nothing to do with Islam.
We found that find out the person has been screaming a lahu Akbar and that they're getting these tactics from ISIS magazines um and Al Qaeda uh magazines that are that are pushed into the West.
And it's funny, you know, you look at what Newt Gingrich has said, for instance.
He said uh uh that anybody who believes in the Sharia law should be should be banned or or even deported, uh, one might argue.
But but the point is this we had twenty-five thousand downloads in the United Kingdom of a PDF file from ISIS that told people to get in big trucks and drive through narrowly uh narrow streets that are heavily populated.
It's no surprise to me that this attack took place on on the Place des Anglais.
But I but I'm but I think Americans need to understand the process and how long it has taken and how deep uh this issue of uh how it relates to immigration, especially in countries like France and and Great Britain and Belgium and other European nations and the impact now in Germany with the refugee population.
The Fact is there are eighty-eight sharia courts in Great Britain.
The fact is no go zones do exist in Paris.
Am I right or am I wrong?
Uh they exist all over France, in fact.
There are about seven hundred and fifty areas which are classed as either no go zones or specially designated areas by the French government.
Of course, that's a euphemism.
Um but here's the real crux of the matter.
They're not willing to get a grip on this because it means they have to abandon the whole raison d'etre behind the uh European Union, uh, which is open borders, which is free movement of people, which is we're all nice fluffy liberals, won't you just love us?
Um and unfortunately it is leading to death and blood on our streets, not just every year now, as we used to have seen in the past.
It's happening almost every week or every few weeks.
This isn't, by the way, it's not been Charlie Hebdo and then and then th the the Paris attacks and then this and then the Brussels attacks and then this.
No, there have also been a high number of smaller scale attacks that don't get the mass media coverage because they they they kill two or three people.
But this is now almost week uh weekly uh situation that we have.
And of course, you know, i i it's it's it's never the the radical Jews that are doing these things.
It's never the the fundamentalist Christians that are doing these things.
We know it's happening from almost certainly only one demographic alone.
And I have to say that when I wrote an article back in two thousand and eleven that's called Profile Me, um, because I am Rahim Qassam of a Muslim background, it was all about how I learned going through Ben Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv that I felt much safer having been profiled at Ben Gurion Airport, and I'm afraid that our Western civilization is a i i is totally and utterly now uh at the the brink of demise if we don't do the same things in our countries.
You know, no Pam, I know you have been been out there on the forfr in the forefront of warning Americans of the cultural divide and differences or what Newt Gingrich said yesterday that Sharia is incompatible with Western civilization.
I mean, I've been reading the comments and I know it's created a big controversy, but the reality is that Sharia has practiced in countries where Hillary takes a lot of money from, uh in Saudi Arabia, for example, up to twenty-five million dollars to the Clinton Foundation, ten million dollars to the Clinton Library.
Okay, well, we can look at life under Sharia in Saudi Arabia, and you can't build a temple.
You cannot build a Christian uh place of worship.
Uh gays and lesbians, the death penalty is for them.
And then of course women can't drive.
Uh they're told uh whether they can go to school or work, uh they're told how to dress.
You have a morality police out there, they can't even leave their home without a male relative.
You need four male eyewitnesses for rape, and that is consistent throughout the Muslim world with those countries that practice Sharia.
Those values are incompatible with America, American constitutional values.
That is just a stated fact.
And the question, if we're gonna take anybody in from countries that practice Sharia, don't we need to know whether or not their goal is for a better life?
Their bull the goal is to abandon what they knew when they uh they were brought up in.
Is their goal to assimilate with Western values or not?
And I don't know how you ascertain such an answer, because it's an issue of the heart and the mind, and you cannot, you know, invade somebody's heart and mind and find out what's really in there.
Well, first of all, his c his remarks are spot on.
They're controversial because we live under this cloud of Sharia.
Uh care is widely quoted an unindicted co-conspirator in the largest terror funding trial in our nation's history.
Uh, they're criticizing Newt Gingrich in the wake of a horrific jihad attack where families were targeted, children were slaughtered.
Why aren't they criticizing the Islamic texts and teachings that call for that holy war on families and children?
You know, what what what to this day, and you know I've been doing this work for fifteen years, and doing this work to avoid this.
What we're now coming into.
We're coming into the era of jihad.
The jihadi in Nice was screaming Al Akbar, and he was connected to ISIS.
His motives and his goals are clear.
Obama said he would help with the investigation.
Why is there an investigation at all?
Did you hear what Hillary said last night?
Let me apply I I mean, I cannot believe that she is in such denial about what is going on.
It's you know, you would think they would have learned after the JV team comment.
You think they would have learned that three days prior to Paris when they said ISIS is contained and then that huge attack in Paris, uh, that they were wrong.
And here's what she said just last night after the attacks.
What is happening now is we are taking territory back in Iraq.
We are squeezing them with inconsistent uh air attacks.
We have killed a number of their leaders.
Uh assuming we are successful, and American military leadership is in the uh hunt on this in Mosul.
Uh, we are pushing the Turks.
They are they have moved far more than uh they had, and in fact, probably the attack at the Istanbul uh airport was because the Turks are really cracking down.
You know, I I mean it's it's such a state of denial.
Just like not acknowledging radical Islam as a state of denial, just like using these euphemisms, workplace violence, man caused disasters, overseas contingencies.
It is so far removed from what truth and reality is now.
I it's it's hard for me to believe the American people could have any confidence in her ability to protect us.
They've been deceived, they've been deceived by an enemy media.
Listen, there was no was there an investigation after Karl Haber.
No.
There was a declaration of war, and this is wash on, and we continue to treat these incidents as if they were isolated criminal acts.
And as long as that continues, sh this is going to keep happening.
We need to end the condemnations and the memorials and the crash services and the weeping, and we need to start acting as if we are in a war.
When when when Dallas in in France said that he has to live with terror terrorism, why?
Why not fight it and stamp it out?
Why not stop the policy that led to this?
You know, you you you're raising such an important point, and Rahim, as somebody that lives in in Great Britain and has been a guest on this program, you have been very kind in trying to offer America an admonition.
And I'm not I don't want to put words in your mouth, but what I hear from you is don't make the same mistakes we have made, and you see America on the precipice of doing exactly the wrong thing that Europe has done that has created this atmosphere where they are openly victimized by terror.
Yeah, I remember coming on your show, Sean, uh not but a few months ago and saying, you know, if Hillary Clinton gets her way and and and this five hundred and fifty percent increase or whatever it is of of refugees uh really happens, then then that is your breaking point.
Uh that is the tar that is the point of no return for the United States.
But you know what's amazing?
People like you and Daniel Hannon and our friend uh Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Dory Gold and a lot of other people, they have made the same admonition.
The they are our friends, you are our friends, and you are trying to help us, and we have a president and a presidential candidate that are not listening.
What would you say to them?
Uh I would say I was brought up in a Muslim household.
Um, and I will say the following to to all your American listeners who have always welcomed me into this country is do you know what?
Under under a plan that keeps uh Muslims out of this country, I may be stopped from coming into this country.
And it's a country that I love to visit, and it's a country that I love the culture of, but I may be stopped.
But I'm willing for that to happen because I see no other way than what New Gingrich is proposing at the moment.
There is no other way to solve this crisis than to actually fully stop compliant Muslim immigration.
You know, there are non-compliant Muslims, there are apostates, there are people like me who who don't adhere to Sharia law.
Let me let me let me take a break here.
Uh we were gonna let you go.
I'm gonna keep you five more minutes.
Pam, stay right there, and then we'll get to your phone calls.
800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Pretty pretty scary times that we are all living in here.
I gotta tell you, and our hope and prayer is, of course, that we can finally put an end to radical Islam and radical Islamic terrorism.
I can announce proudly that we will meet President Obama's goal of welcoming ten thousand serious refugees to the United States in the current fiscal year.
Now, those are refugees, which is different from normal process of migration and green card and becoming a citizen and so forth.
It's a very different category.
It's also representing six-fold increase over what we did the year before.
That was John Kerry on Tuesday.
Oh, we're gonna meet The goal.
Now we have the National Director of Intelligence, James Clapper, our FDI FBI director, Comey, our CIA director, our assistant FBI director, our special envoy to defeat ISIS.
We have our House Homeland Security uh chairman.
All of them have said ISIS will infiltrate the refugee population, but they're bragging about bringing the refugees in anyway, which means they are willing to gamble with your life.
Now we continue, by the way, with Pam Geller, president of the American Freedom Defense Initiative, Rahim Qassam, editor in chief of Breitbart News London.
He happens to be in New York today.
Before we went to break, I I had to stop you, unfortunately, the constraints of time, but you were saying you grew up Muslim.
You are saying after all of these terror incidents, and as you discuss Sharia courts in Great Britain and and no go zones in Paris and and the impact, the negative impact of refugees in in Germany and Belgium and all over Europe, you are saying to America that Newt Gingrich is right when he says Sharia is incompatible with Western civilization, that Western civilization is at a war in a war, and that you are asking people to learn the lessons from the mistakes of Europe.
And I want you to go back to what you were saying.
Yeah, it's it's not if it uh often that you you mince your words, Sean, but I think you mince them there a little bit.
In fact, when you say Sharia Well, Sharia is an intrinsic part of Islam.
So it's not that Sharia isn't compatible with the West, but Islam is incompatible with the West.
Let's get that straight.
Let's get that very clear.
When you say this as somebody that grew up Muslim, are you still Muslim?
Absolutely.
Well, look, uh I I uh I have no uh I'm not gonna pretend that I go to the mosque and say five prayers a day.
That's not what I do at the moment.
Do I still identify with with my heritage culturally?
Yes.
Um do I want to see uh uh a reformation is in Islam?
Yes.
Do I believe it's possible?
Well, probably not, actually.
I think that the reformation is happening right now, and it's a reformation that's going the other way to what we understand as a reformation.
I think that that it's actually becoming more fundamentalist.
And the evidence is all there, actually.
The evidence is all there when you look at the polling numbers, PewPoll have done it, we've done polls in the United Kingdom.
When you look at young Muslims, they tend to be more radical, more fundamentalist, more inclined towards hardlined Sharia law endorsement than their parents were, the parents who were immigrants into the West, not but twenty, thirty, forty years ago.
And that is deeply concerning, and you touched on it at the beginning.
It's because the mosques are being funded at the moment, not just by the Wahhabists and the Salafists in in Saudi Arabia, but also by this deeply dark sect called the Dio Bandis, the Tablige Jamats, which we know influenced the San Bernardino terrorists.
But when do we hear about them?
When do we have Barack Obama or David Cameron or Francois Hollande going up on stage and saying we need to tackle tablige jama?
The headquarters is in Yorkshire in England, in a small town.
And I sent one of my staff up there recently, one of our photographers, and she couldn't believe what she was seeing.
Unbelievable.
This is your admonition.
You know what?
It said out of such deep respect and love for our country.
Absolutely.
And it is uh it's underappreciated.
And when Daniel Hannon says it, it's underappreciated.
And when Dory Gold says it, it's underappreciated.
And when Netanyahu says it, the Prime Minister of Israel, it's underappreciated.
You know, did you see the recent story, Breitbart had it, about how the State Department and Obama political surrogates actually used taxpayer money, went to Israel to try and defeat one of our best allies and one of the strongest voices against radical Islam in the world, which is Prime Minister Netanyahu.
Well, don't forget that Obama flew over into the United Kingdom just a few weeks ago on the US taxpayer dime to tell us don't you dare leave the European Union.
Yeah.
You know, and and that European Union is intrinsically linked to what's going on here.
Do you think that impacted Brexit?
I think it did.
I think Barack Obama is fundamentally unpopular out in the United Kingdom, and he gave us all a big reason to put our pint glasses on our heads and go, Way, let's vote out.
You know, I'd love to go to England and hang out and have one of those pint glasses on my head.
Uh I Pam, you have some information that you want to share with our audience, uh, to the extent I know you talked to Linda earlier today, and she told me, and and to the extent that you're capable of telling us, what can you say?
Well, I mean, you know, I've been very much uh involved in the what happens when these refugees get get here.
I had um broken a story about the little girl, a little five year old special needs girl in Idaho, who was raped by a uh a Muslim migrant gang.
Uh she was urinated on, she was she was urinated in her mouth.
And the follow up to this horrible and gruesome story is the family is being attacked.
The family is being persecuted by the um uh law enforcement, by the system.
They she can't get her child's medical records.
They will they will not give her her child's hospital record when the child where the child was treated after the rape.
The mother needs to know was the child exposed to anything, was the child you know, with i is a T B is I mean uh she she can't get the medical record.
She can't get the records of the nine one one calls, and then as the kid this is the five year old we're talking about.
This is a five-year-old special needs.
Now let me tell you something.
If our special needs children are not safe, then the country is finished.
And the idea that at a closed door hearing Well, we covered this case in Idaho, and I gotta tell you something, it is beyond frustrating.
And we had that one woman, remember the older woman as an eye witness to what happened and in that incident, the grandmother.
Okay, she was on this program, Pam, and she described or it was the neighbor that actually witnessed the actual event.
I've got the audio of it, and I gotta tell you something.
It's scary.
And that they didn't want to release anything or tell anybody It's like they want to be in a state of denial.
And the prosecutor threatened to charge anyone who spoke inflammatory remarks about the perpetrators.
Meanwhile, the leader of that gang is living next door to the kid still.
The kid is so afraid to leave the house.
And at the hearing, the judge said, wait for it.
The judge said, imagine what these children have been through in order for them to have done that.
Where's the governor of the great state of Idaho for crying out loud?
Is the governor of Idaho?
You have a Republican governor by the name of Butch Otter.
Doesn't he doesn't he have any say in this?
The family is being targeted by law enforcement to shut up.
They are visited by various child agencies.
I gotta tell you, in Austria, a little boy was sexually abused at an asylum center, and the people that ran the asylum center said to the parents, don't go to the police.
If you go to the police, you could lose your child.
Yeah.
You know what?
I'm gonna keep both of you here.
Stay right there, Pam.
Pam uh uh Geller and Rahim Qassam.
Let me get some calls in on this Friday or else people are gonna hate my guts.
Don't forget Mike Pence will join me tonight, his first interview.
Donald Trump's VP choice uh on Hannity on the Fox News channel.
MJ, we're also watching this day of rage and what's on what's unfolding there.
Well, hang on, MJ.
Let's go to Omar first in New Jersey.
He's a Muslim, says he believes in Sharia.
What's up, Omar?
Hi, hi.
Hey, Sean.
Uh good listening to your show.
Um I just wanted to make a point to your uh uh guests and to uh new gingries that yes, I do follow the Sharia law.
I follow every single tenant of my faith, and because of that, I do charity work.
I take care of my kids.
My parents who came in to this country as immigrants, work eighty hours a week, both of them, to raise four kids who are charitable, kind and patient to their neighbors and to their society.
Having said that, right, you and and and your guests, I I guess they would agree with Newt Gingrich would want to deport me?
Where would you deport me to first of all?
And how well I I agree with Newt Gingrich that Sharia, as practiced in Muslim countries, many Muslim countries, is incompatible with Western civilization and American constitutional law.
And I look at the countries, for example, that Hillary has taken money from and they uh they put gays and lesbians to death.
They will not allow religious freedom for Christians and Jews.
They also treat women and minorities horribly.
Women are treated like third class citizens, told what to wear, whether they can go out and drive a car or not, whether they can go to work or school or not, whether they can even leave the house without a male relative or not.
And that is the antithesis of our constitutional republic.
So we have our values, and then you have Sharia values, and there's a clash of cultures, isn't there?
Uma Omar, it's Raheem here.
I'd like I'd like to speak to you directly, if I may.
I mean, you say you believe in Sharia law and and and and and that what but one must assume that you believe in the implementation of Sharia law in the country in which you live.
Well tell tell the listeners to this show.
Do you believe that the punishment for adultery should be death?
Do you believe the punishment for apostasy should be death?
Do you believe that voting is shirk and that no Muslim should take part in it?
Do you believe in female genital mutilation?
Do you believe in gender inequality?
You know, do you believe that rape is not a felony?
Do you believe the owner killings are a right?
You know, tell tell everyone listening out there.
It's this nationally syndicated show just exactly what you believe.
Yeah, and and you're right.
You you're you're we don't believe in any of this stuff that you're mentioning, okay?
There's no single there's not one single book of Jewish.
By the way, is this when you hear this?
Is this tikiyyah?
Is that where people it's a this that that's a lie?
It also is sanctioned on under Al Azhar, the leading Islamic Supreme Authority.
He's being completely and utterly dishonored.
Or he doesn't know, which is even worse.
Because here he is advocating for the most brutal and extreme ideology on the planet, and either he knows that, and he's deceiving us, or he doesn't know it, and that's what he's advocating for.
He knows that in Muslim countries, and it is sanctioned under the Sharia, that if you are an apostate, you are put to death.
He knows it, I know it, and I know that he knows it.
He on a quote of violence, page 54 reliance of the traveler.
Kill your offering.
Are you gonna tell me and you guys tell the the the listeners, millions of listeners, that reliance of the traveler is not a sanctioned book, the supreme book in English?
Um codified Islamic law?
I'm asking you what is if reliance of the traveler, tell our listeners what it is.
Would you please tell me if there is one book of Sharia law, a book of Jewish prudence that all the Muslims everywhere in the world, the 1.6 people, a billion Muslims follow?
Is there a single book that everybody follows?
So you're now saying, Omar, you're now saying that you can pick and choose what Sharia law is.
Is that right?
It's based on your interpretations and based on our interpretation here, it's totally in line.
What is your interpretation?
He just gave you a list, Rahim did.
And I've offered He gave you a list of what real life is like in in some, not all countries, under Sharia law.
And it's fairly prominent.
And he's asking you a question and you won't answer it.
And that is do you do you condemn the practices in Muslim countries, the treatment of women, gays, lesbians, Christians, and Jews.
Do you condemn that?
I absolutely condemn that.
100%.
Those, I how can you you wouldn't have humanity if you wouldn't condemn that?
How can you say that those are the tenants of his authority?
Excuse me.
How can you not say how can you not recognize the fundamental truth that that is the practice?
That is the lifestyle.
That is the law.
Islam preaches death for apostasy.
For a lot of Muslims in the world, I am an apostate.
Omar, should I be killed?
Definitely not.
If you're right, it's your practice.
You can be whoever you want.
Then you don't believe in Sharia law, my friend.
I'm afraid you're just you're just misled and you're babbling.
Yes, it's blasphemous, sir.
You you bl you be careful.
You know what?
The penalty for blasphemy under the sharia is death.
Be careful, sir.
Okay.
Okay, then you know what?
We all the Muslims in this country are misleading.
You're the expert, and they're gonna tell us that you know what, we're lying or we're hiding it.
Well, I'm we're just we're just giving you a fundamental truth.
Raheem, uh, Omar, not all the Muslims in this country believe it will come on a radio show and say they believe in Sharia law.
I bet you most of them don't.
I bet you most of them are going to the voting booths and voting, and they don't think voting is shark.
I bet you they don't think that if their wife has a uh uh uh an affair with somebody that she should be put to death.
I mean, these are the things that are happening in Muslim countries.
You're over here, and it's very nice for you being over here.
Frankly, I wish I was here, right?
But I'm over there in Europe, and I see it every single day.
I see it in our Sharia compliant courts.
I see it on the streets of Rotherham where white girls are groomed and raped, and there is no justification and there is no uh uh police comeback on that issue.
You know, you're seeing it uh jihad, one of the core tenants of Sharia, ways just last night in Nice.
You know, tell everyone out there that you don't believe in Sharia because you're not saying that you believe in anything that I've just said that amounts to Sharia law.
My friend, what you're mentioning is if they follow what they follow, this is not Sharia law.
This is brutal killing.
This is mass murderer.
This is not what this is, so you're an apostate.
You're an apostate, though.
Omar, you're an apostate.
Welcome to the club.
It's a great one.
Let's have a beer.
By the way, is it uh is an apostate or is it an apostate?
I've always said apostate.
Uh but but the real but the reality is if you lived in these countries and you said what you just said on this radio program, if you lived in Saudi Arabia, Raheem, what would happen to him?
Death.
Death.
You understand?
Omar, well, Omar, you understand you die.
Hang on, Omar.
You do understand you die in Saudi Arabia.
You do get that, right?
But but you know, uh, you know uh last year.
Omar, answer my question.
I'm running out of time.
You do know.
Okay, then you're making my point, and I appreciate you doing that.
Thank you for making my point.
And Rahim's point and Pam's point.
Thank you for confirming that.
Uh Rahim, it's good to see you in person.
We've now we've never met in person.
Did we meet once before?
No, and it's the first time.
Good to see you.
No, it's not a bromance.
I like you, you're a cool guy, but it's not a bromance.
Don't get that.
No, we're not getting that ever.
That's not happening.
That is not happening.
Because because the because it would be against the Sharia.
