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	All right, as we speak, the Anointed One, yes, the Chosen One, yes, the phony Olinskyite Acorn Olinskiite disciple, the member of the church of GD America, who dressed in Muslim garb at a wedding and went to a Muslim school.
	Everybody writes me that every day.
	Barack Obama, the friend of Bill Ayres and Bernadine Dorn's unrepentant terrorists, is now who's been trashing police officers for years.
	Now he's speaking at the memorial for the fallen Dallas officers.
	Let's dip in.
	And as for those who use rhetoric suggesting harm to police, even if they don't act on it themselves, well, they not only make the jobs of police officers even more dangerous, But they do a disservice to the very cause of justice that they claim to promote.
	We also know that centuries of racial discrimination, of slavery and subjugation, and Jim Crow didn't simply vanish with the end of lawful segregation.
	They didn't just stop when Dr. King made a speech or the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act were signed.
	Race relations have improved dramatically in my lifetime.
	Those who deny it are dishonoring the struggles that helped us achieve that progress.
	But we know.
	All right, now let's do a little comparing and contrasting, shall we?
	President talks about rhetoric.
	Now, just before I play Obama and his rhetoric about cops and his rush to judgment and high-profile racial cases in which cops are involved, and he talked repeatedly about Trayvon Martin and about Ferguson and about the Cambridge police.
	Well, don't forget that he invited the Black Lives Matter people to the White House and then he praised them.
	He praised these people.
	Well, the Black Lives Matter Dallas, Texas chapter, where do we find this, Linda?
	This was on, you handed me this earlier today.
	Hot Air Had It Today.
	It said, good morning.
	In lieu of last night's murders of five Dallas, Texas officers, it is what it is, justified.
	Goes on, these killer cops have been killing our black men and women every day and getting away with it.
	Oh, well, I have no sympathy whatsoever for those cops' lives nor their families.
	You don't give a damn when it's our black men and women that they're slaughtering.
	What is good for the goose is good for the gander, and we're tired, and they're tired of y'all killing us.
	So they showed you just how tired we are.
	You're going to learn today or yesterday.
	Oh, excuse me.
	Really?
	And that, by the way, you know, was from the Dallas Morning News.
	The post is from a Facebook page of, quote, oh, Black Lives Matters, Dallas, Texas.
	The same group chanting pigs in a blanket, frying like bacon.
	What do we want dead cops?
	When do we want them now?
	Well, this is a very different Barack Obama I see today in Dallas than the one that has said all of this as and keep this in perspective.
	There's been 3,459 people murdered in Chicago since he's become president.
	3,459 people, thousands more injured.
	He has spoken out about Chicago nine times.
	Now, here you have massive killings.
	Now, when there's high-profile incidents that can be seen through a racial prism, who's one of the first people to rush to judgment without any trial, without any due process, without any evidence presented, and weigh in and make America as president try and see these incidents through a racial prism.
	He did it in Cambridge.
	He did it with Trayvon and George Zimmerman.
	He did it in Ferguson.
	He did it in Baltimore.
	You don't believe me?
	Listen.
	I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry.
	Number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly.
	I think Ferguson laid bare a problem that is not unique to St. Louis or that area and is not unique to our time.
	And that is a simmering distrust that exists between too many police departments and too many communities of color.
	We've heard stories of some of these young men being stopped and put on the ground by police for no reason.
	And we have to close the justice gap.
	How justice is applied, but also how it is perceived, how it is experienced.
	Eric Holder understands this.
	That's what we saw in Ferguson this summer when Michael Brown was killed and the community was divided.
	But the anger and the emotion that followed his death awakened our nation once again to the reality that people in this room have long understood, which is in too many communities around the country, a gulf of mistrust exists between local residents and law enforcement.
	Talking about Michael Brown here.
	Michael Brown.
	Now, he spoke out before we knew a lot about Michael Brown.
	Let's see.
	That was before we had the video of Michael Brown robbing a store and intimidating a store clerk.
	That was before that we knew that the grand jury had multiple black eyewitnesses that testified that Michael Brown was responsible for starting the encounter with Officer Darren Wilson as he fought Darren Wilson for his gun, which resulted in the first shot being fired when Officer Wilson was inside his police car.
	And those same black eyewitnesses testified that Michael Brown charged at Officer Darren Wilson repeatedly, who tried to stop shooting and told him repeatedly to stop running at him because his life was in danger.
	But that didn't stop the president, you know, from rushing to judgment with the power of the bully pulpit of the presidency of the United States of America and throwing cops and raising suspicion within communities without any knowledge, without any proof, without any evidence, without any testimony, without any due process.
	Just like he did in the Trayvon Martin case.
	Trayvon could have been my son.
	Just like he did when he said, well, I could have been me in Trayvon 35 years ago.
	He said all of that before an eyewitness testified in that case that he saw Trayvon Martin on top of George Zimmerman with a tape and a recording of George Zimmerman screaming like he's dying and the shot then going off.
	And it was eyewitness testimony that put Trayvon Martin on top of George Zimmerman in what was described as a ground and pound, grounding and pounding his head into cement, concrete, before the shot went off.
	And just like he rushed to judgment with the Cambridge police, which resulted in the stupid beer summit of his.
	Now, why does he only speak out during these high-profile incidences?
	Why does he speak out before any due process goes on?
	Or if it's Freddie Gray, so far, all the cops, as I predicted, in Baltimore have been found innocent, not guilty.
	There was the anticipation was created by so-called Democratic leaders in that city that there were going to be convictions against the known heroin addict that ran from the cops at 8.30 in the morning as soon as he saw them.
	Nobody saw any incident of any abuse.
	There was no testimony.
	You did have some guy that was in the paddy wagon saying, yeah, he was banging his head up and down against the wall of the thing, of the paddy wagon.
	And everybody rushes to judgment.
	You create anticipation that a certain result is going to happen.
	But that's what our court system is for.
	That's what our justice system is for.
	If cops are protecting us every single day, don't they also deserve the presumption of innocence?
	And I'll be perfectly blunt.
	When I look at the tape of what happened, particularly in Baton Rouge, it doesn't look good to me.
	But I can't see if the guy that's being pinned on the ground is reaching for a gun.
	Apparently, he had one.
	So we don't actually get to see the whole shooting.
	We haven't heard from the witnesses in that case.
	We don't have the forensic evidence yet in that case, which has resulted in now shootings in San Antonio and the Dallas police, et cetera, et cetera.
	Just like the case in Minnesota.
	Here's a woman.
	You know, apparently the guy, she videotapes her boyfriend having just been shot.
	The shooting is not on tape.
	So that's not evidence after the fact, except that she's sitting there as her boyfriend is bleeding to death and she is live FaceTiming to the entire world on the internet.
	Oh, they just shot my boyfriend.
	He's bleeding to death.
	I can't believe it.
	I can't believe, oh, Jesus, I hope this isn't true.
	I hope this didn't happen.
	And you hear the cop said, I told him not to go for his gun.
	Now, I don't know what happened because I wasn't there.
	I don't know what happened in Baton Rouge.
	I wasn't there.
	The difference between me and Obama in Cambridge and in Florida with Trayvon Martin or in Ferguson or in Baltimore is I'm telling you I don't know.
	But I'm saying I want to get to the bottom of it.
	I don't want to read 3,459 people in Chicago are dead in an eight-year period ever again and thousands others being shot and injured every day.
	And you have these long weekends where 40 and 50 shootings take place on a weekend.
	How many of you can name one, one name of one person of the 3,459 people killed in Chicago, his hometown, since he's become president?
	I bet you can't name one.
	And the reason is because he didn't advance the narrative.
	He didn't rush to judgment.
	It didn't fit the narrative that cops are against minorities in America that he seems to like to advance without any evidence, due process, or any facts or information.
	Now, if we really care about lives, if the president really cared about lives, don't you think if you're the president of the United States and you open the paper every day and there's more dead people, you know, how many days are there, 3,459?
	Is that like one a day since he's been president?
	I could run the math.
	You know, you think if I'm reading that my hometown is experiencing an epidemic of shootings, that young people and even two-year-old tots are being killed with stray bullets being fired at them or whatever.
	You know, that would be nine a day, nine people a day, and not one American could probably name any of them unless you're impacted personally, because that didn't make Obama's agenda when he talks out like he does in these high-profile race cases.
	By the way, is Black Lives Matter marching for the 3,459 dead people, many of happen to be black Americans?
	Black lives matter.
	All lives matter.
	Why aren't they in Chicago, you know, guarding the streets of that city and doing something productive instead of chanting pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon, hands up, don't shoot.
	What do we want dead cops?
	What do we want them now?
	I guess they're too busy also visiting presidential candidates like Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders and Barack Hussein Obama.
	They get the royal treatment.
	They get to go to the White House and they get to hang out in the Oval Office.
	It's unbelievable.
	You cannot, it's inexplicable.
	There's no explanation for this.
	High-profile, potential racial incident.
	Obama is all over it.
	The media is all over it.
	You hear about 3,459 dead people in Chicago, thousands more injured.
	Crickets, nothing, zero.
	Nobody talks about it.
	And you, I bet all of you don't know a single name.
	Now, I've actually done this on radio and TV.
	I've started naming names.
	I actually scrolled the names of people in Chicago.
	Maybe I'll do that tonight on my TV show.
	Maybe the whole hour, I'll just scroll the names of people killed in Chicago that you've never heard of before.
	How's that?
	Got to take a quick break.
	That's why I can't watch this.
	I can't watch this memorial.
	After all that he has said, every rush to judgment, every, you know, from the power of that pulpit, this man has done more to divide this country on racial issues and bring hostility towards police officers.
	And now he's at the memorial for the fallen Dallas officers, you know, lecturing how it's horrible to say terrible things about cops.
	Well, with all due respect, you've fueled that fire, Mr. President, because you've rushed to judgment again and again and again.
	You're a four-time loser.
	A loser on Cambridge, you rush to judgment wrong.
	Trayvon Martin, you rush to judgment before any facts.
	You were wrong.
	Ferguson, you rushed to judgment without any evidence of due process.
	You were wrong.
	Same thing in Baltimore.
	You were wrong.
	And it has created an atmosphere where cops don't want to do their jobs anymore.
	It's created an atmosphere where people are less safe today than they have ever been.
	Black lives matter.
	White lives matter.
	Asian lives matter.
	Latino lives matter.
	How about all lives matter?
	They're gifts from God.
	Let's not rush to judgment anymore, Mr. President.
	Save us your lectures and your sympathy.
	I don't buy it.
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	A couple of polls out today: Trump up by two in Iowa.
	Looks like Donald Trump's poll numbers are rebounding.
	He's now beating Hillary Clinton in Florida, 4745.
	According to On Message Inc., a group tied with Governor Rick Scott, four months out of the 2016 presidential election.
	Both Trump and Hillary's approval ratings are badly upside down, but Hillary's are worse.
	Clinton is 13 points in the red.
	She has a 55% unfavorable rating, 42% favorable.
	Trump is minus 11.
	Trump fares better.
	Clinton's image is among independents is down 20.
	Trump only down 8.
	So there's some hope there.
	In an NBC news poll, Clinton leads 47.44 within the margin of error.
	So we got that news out there for you today.
	President device of Obama, let's see, the slowest recovery since 1949.
	Wow, shocking.
	We only have millions more in poverty on food stamps and out of the labor force, and we've doubled the debt.
	But I tell you that every day.
	Ever wonder why our space program doesn't do anything much anymore?
	They don't have much to do with exploring outer space, which I think is really cool.
	I'm not sure we can afford it, but I think it's really cool.
	I think when America went to the moon and we made it a priority, it was a pretty spectacular moment.
	One giant leap for man, one huge leap for mankind, whatever that quote was.
	Anyway, NASA's spending $73,500 to teach astronauts about diversity, their unconscious biases, and how to use their privilege.
	NASA's added new curriculum for astronauts, Diversity Dialogue Project.
	They hired a contractor to hold regularly scheduled dialogue sessions about inclusion.
	Program is designed for employees to engage in a facilitated dialogue process in an open, non-judgmental, comfortable environment, according to documents released by the agency.
	Isn't that nice to know?
	We're going to have the nicest astronauts that never go anywhere.
	It's really amazing.
	They're going to stay home and go through their diversity training every day.
	The new Black Panther Party intends to bring firearms to the GOP convention.
	Anyway, New Black Panther Party are going to protest the GOP convention, apparently armed to the teeth, according to Reuters.
	The chairman of the new Black Panther Party said that his group will carry arms for self-defense at protests before the Republican Convention next week, if allowed under Ohio law.
	If it's an open state to carry, we will exercise our Second Amendment rights because there are other groups threatening to be there that are threatening to do harm to us, said Hashim Nazinga, chairman of the new Black Panther Party.
	If the state allows us to bear arms, the Panthers and others who can legally bear arms will bear arms.
	I don't have a good feeling about these conventions.
	I just don't.
	Yes, I have security.
	I'm bringing you my sensei.
	By the way, aren't you guys, I mean, you're not going, but wouldn't it be cool?
	You want to, we're training every day, like for an hour or two every morning.
	So I'm going to get in super shape while I'm at the conventions.
	And my sensei breaks things.
	And he's very, very good at what he does.
	But he's also a gentleman.
	I mean, you're nice to me.
	I'll be nice to you.
	You want to attack me?
	We're going to defend ourselves.
	It's the way it works.
	So liberals will have to choose to support their liberal gun agenda or the Black Panthers.
	What are they going to do?
	That's quite a quandary for them.
	That's a big, big problem for them.
	In Portsmouth, New Hampshire today, Bernie Sanders endorsed Hillary Clinton.
	Necessary, inevitable, predictable, step-by-standers, but not one that he was terribly enthusiastic about.
	There's going to be a lot of commentary on this, but I want to do is focus on an important and deeply revealing thing here, but I think one that's overlooked by a lot of people, and it's this: it took Hillary Clinton the entire campaign to finally dispatch a 74-year-old, angry, overweight curmudgeon, socialist.
	I mean, it tells you so much about the modern Democratic Party that it was Bernie Sanders who put up such a tough fight and won the hearts and minds of liberal Democrats and the leftist party in America.
	Now, Bernie Sanders wasn't a Democrat until a year ago.
	Before that, he was an independent, a self-described Democratic socialist.
	And over the course of his career, the curmudgeon was viewed by nearly everyone as an odd, eccentric radical, a man who could only succeed in a state as left-wing as Vermont.
	Today is very ideologically defining for the Democratic Party.
	He's it.
	Sanders is a guy who, between 1972 and 76, was the nominee of the anti-capitalist, anti-war liberal union party of Vermont in two Senate and two gubernatorial elections in Vermont.
	He lost all four at the time.
	In 1981, Sanders won an independent bid for mayor of Burlington as a self-described socialist.
	And socialist is the political and economic philosophy he says that he held and ran under.
	He explained that in 1988 when he unsuccessfully ran for Congress.
	Now, he won his House race in 1990.
	He won in the Senate in 2006.
	He's not changed his philosophy one bit over the years, and he lost the nomination, but it's clear that Sanders won the ideological debate within the Democratic Party.
	That's his party.
	And it was him who dragged Hillary Clinton, already a woman of the far left, even further and further to the left.
	And he's the one that drew the crowds.
	He's the one that won young people.
	He's the one who liberals identify with.
	And while acknowledging that the two disagree on a number of issues on minimum wage and health care and the environment, wealth inequality, and other issues, Sanders said that he and Clinton are of the same mind.
	So he's kind of right.
	Clinton ideologically moved completely in his direction.
	He didn't move towards her one bit.
	These aren't just my fights, Hillary said.
	These are Bernie's fights.
	She's actually right about that.
	She's fighting Bernie's socialist cause.
	The Democratic socialist senator from Vermont successfully pushed the party to adopt more progressive planks on climate change, health care, a $15 minimum wage.
	And Clinton has also agreed to push policies for free college tuition, which is another Sanders idea.
	It's not a small thing that's happened here for her.
	It shows how weak she is, and what she's doing is embracing Sanders' idea to make college yet another entitlement in America.
	And I assume after that, it's going to be probably free daycare for your kids.
	Might as well, you know, the day your kids are born, you can keep them for 24 hours, hand them over to the government, they'll raise them for you.
	Free health care, free daycare, free failing education, schools that are a disaster.
	Maybe at some point we'll give free government automobiles.
	Maybe we'll give free houses.
	We do have housing that they have, government housing.
	Maybe we have free school lunch.
	Maybe we'll make it breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
	Government, you know, mandated breakfast, lunch, and dinner for anybody who wants it.
	We give free phones away.
	Everything's free, free, free.
	Who's going to pay for it?
	The rich, the 1% that already pays 70% of the bill, top 10%, 70% of the bill.
	Anyway, so she's saying these are Bernie's fights, not just my fights.
	So it's a major, major shift in a party that was once far more moderate.
	Wall Street Journal pointed out she already proposed expanding Social Security benefits for retirees who took time off mid-career, addling pre-retirees as young as 50 to Medicare and other government programs, 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave.
	She also wants to sweeten Obamacare subsidies, but Obamacare now has fallen of its own weight.
	It's collapsed.
	It is totally and completely bankrupt and void.
	There's no credible carrier that wants to be in the Obamacare exchange because they cannot make money.
	And the premiums have gone up so high, nobody can even afford them.
	Anyway, so Hillary wants to pay for all these things.
	Basically, a cradle-to-grave, womb-to-the-tomb society.
	She's now trying to attract Sanders voters by offering to have taxpayers pay college tuition for students from families with incomes of up to $125,000, which represents 80% of households in America.
	Free college.
	I mean, we already send them to K through 12, and they come out dumber than they went in.
	Now, I guess we really want to make them dumb.
	It's unbelievable.
	We pay more per capita for education per student than any other country on earth, and we're ranked 35th.
	Now they'll come out of college, and they'll be ranked, you know, 45th.
	It's unbelievable.
	Now, keep in mind, Sanders was attacked by Hillary and his free college plan during the primaries.
	Now, having won and wanting to win over Sanders' voters, she's embracing the Everything's Free campaign.
	Margaret Thatcher famously said, the problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money to spend.
	So, together we have begun a political revolution to transform America, and that revolution continues, Sanders said at this speech.
	Together, we continue to fight to create a government which represents all of us, not just the 1%, a government based on the principles of economic, social, racial, environmental justice.
	So, now radicalism is the Democratic Party.
	It's the party of Obama, Hillary, and Bernie.
	Unbelievable.
	Unbelievable.
	That's where they want to take your country.
	That's where our country is headed.
	Down the tubes.
	All right, let's get to our busy phones.
	800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, let's go to Jerry in Detroit, Michigan.
	What's up, Jerry?
	How are you?
	All righty, Sean.
	First off, you know, as much as I criticize white police officers, I condemn what went on in Dallas.
	With that being said, I very much have to take issue with much of what you just said on a couple of fronts, if you have time.
	First, you know, the demonization of President Obama on this issue, and plus what I think is an.
	All right, let me help you go through this.
	Was it wrong for the president without any evidence, due process, to go out and talk publicly and condemn cops in cases where he had no evidence?
	Was that right or wrong?
	Well, in my mind, as a 51-year-old black man, I think.
	Okay, I'm asking you.
	I'm asking you, for example, was it wrong to talk about Ferguson through the prism in which he talked about it and the cops being corrupt before he had any information?
	Well, as far as Ferguson goes, there was systemic stuff going on.
	Okay, but that's not.
	He was talking about what happened with Michael Brown.
	Was it wrong of the president to rush to judgment before any testimony, due process, evidence was given?
	Do you believe in the presumption of innocence or not?
	Well, the presumption of innocence to who, Darren Wilson?
	Yes.
	That he was a racist?
	Do you have any evidence he's racist?
	Do you have any evidence otherwise?
	Well, I have the testimony of black eyewitnesses that saw Michael Brown, the guy that robbed the store, intimidated the clerk, fight Darren Wilson for a gun.
	I have eyewitness testimony from black Americans that said he charged at the police officer.
	What evidence do you have?
	Well, that to me is still pretty much up for debate at the moment.
	No, it's not really.
	Goodbye.
	You're a waste of my time.
	Wasted my time.
	Jared in Georgia.
	Hi.
	What's going on?
	Well, with all the racial tension in America right now and the Black Lives Matter thing going down, and with half of America being fooled into thinking that Donald Trump is a racist, what do you think about Condoleezza Rice?
	I don't think I like Condi a lot.
	I don't think her personality and Trump's would merge well together, but I do think a lot of her.
	I think she's a very classy woman, have served her country with honor and distinction.
	I also think they have very different worldview on the use of American force.
	By the way, Donald Trump came out with a pretty good ad today about Bernie Sanders and the things that he said about Hillary.
	I'll show it on TV tonight, but you can listen to it here.
	I don't think you are qualified.
	I do not know any progressive who has a super PAC and takes $15 million from Wall Street.
	I don't think you are qualified if you have supported virtually every disastrous trade agreement, which has cost us millions of decent bank jobs.
	I do question her judgment.
	I question a judgment which voted for the war in Iraq.
	I don't think you are qualified.
	I have shown a lot better judgment than she has on foreign policy.
	I don't think you are qualified.
	Excuse me, I'm talking.
	It's even funnier when you watch it.
	We'll play it tonight on TV.
	I think that pretty much says it all.
	I don't think you're qualified.
	Now, I'm sure they're going to pull out cuts of Republicans saying the same thing about Donald Trump, but I don't think anybody cares.
	I think everyone gets it.
	Someday want to see a woman president of the United States of America.
	Well.
	All right.
	Are you done?
	Because that's so annoying.
	All you do is chase our listeners away every single time you do that.
	Do you know that?
	All you do is frustrate people.
	And it's like a little toy, and you can't give it up.
	You know?
	You know, you give a little bit of leeway to people that work for me, and look what happens.
	I get treated.
	It's a big difference at this point in the middle.
	It makes a big difference.
	So stop.
	All right, glad you're with us.
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	At the bottom of the hour, we have Lieutenant General Michael Flynn.
	He's got a brand new book out.
	Also, according to reports on the shortlist of Donald Trump to be vice president, one other person on that list is former Speaker of the House.
	The person I actually have endorsed for this position, I hope he gets it, is former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich.
	How are you, sir?
	I'm doing well.
	I think you'd be a great vice president.
	You want my reasons?
	Let me mention, by the way, my newsletter that's about to go out is actually General Flynn's book.
	I do a book review of why it's such an important work, and I'm thrilled you're having him on today.
	Yeah, it's great.
	You really sound like you're very aggressively seeking the vice presidency by praising your competition.
	That's just a great, as a matter of fact, I urge everyone to watch Anderson Cooper on CNN and Rachel Maddow.
	That's what it's like.
	I'm only teasing.
	Here's my case for you.
	And it's not out of friendship, although some people may think that.
	I first interviewed you in 1990.
	I watched Renewing American Civilization, tapes you put together, which became literally the foundation of Republicans taking power in 1994 with the contract with America.
	I emceed that event the night you became Speaker at the Cobb Galleria.
	I've known you all these years.
	Here's my point.
	You know, I know people may talk about age or maybe things in the past.
	If they talk about your past, they also have to talk about balancing the budget and welfare reform.
	But here are my reasons, and tell me if I'm right or wrong.
	I don't think there's anybody that could better prosecute the case against Hillary, which a vice president needs to do than you.
	I don't think you can make the case.
	I don't think anybody can make the case for Donald Trump as strongly as you can.
	I don't think there's anybody that would deal with Congress, if you do win, that would be able to deal with a hostile Congress that included Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell.
	And if there is something horrible that happens, God forbid to our country in the time that Donald Trump is president, a Pearl Harbor, a 9-11, a financial collapse of some kind, I want you in that room helping to advise everybody.
	Tell me where I'm wrong.
	Well, look, you're very flattering, and I want to be healthy the way I can.
	And, you know, I'm certainly willing to do all I can to help turn the country around.
	But in the end, as much as I admire you and as much as I am grateful for your enthusiasm, there's only one person that's going to make this decision.
	And that person isn't you or me.
	And it's Donald Trump.
	And he has to decide what he believes is best in his debt.
	I mean, he's got to think about what's the chemistry he wants, and that's the person he should pick.
	I agree with that.
	I think that's true.
	I saw you two together in Cincinnati.
	It seemed like you had very good chemistry to me.
	What are your thoughts?
	Phil, I think we do.
	But again, I suspect he has pretty good chemistry with Christine.
	He has pretty good chemistry with Kent and with Flynn.
	And I wouldn't be at all shocked if there isn't a totally unknown person that has not been petted publicly, that has not existed publicly, because I think Trump does like surprises.
	And so he may just pull a rabbit out of the hat.
	The only problem, I've said this to General Flynn last night.
	I don't think he has the political experience to prosecute the case against Hillary or make the case for Donald Trump.
	His military experience.
	Look, I'd love to see the guy as Secretary of Defense, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, maybe the CIA director.
	If it's an economic crisis we face, and we are facing one in many ways, I'm not sure he's the right person to be in that position for all of those things.
	I look at Chris Christie.
	I think he's a great guy, would be great in a debate, probably would be a strong advocate for Donald Trump and make the case against Hillary Clinton.
	I think he could prosecute that case, but he's also not loved by conservatives for a lot of reasons.
	And too numerous to go into.
	He didn't do well in every poll that I have seen.
	You're at 40%.
	Christie's at like 3%.
	And Pence is at 7%.
	Well, first of all, I never object to you flattering me, and I never object to you bringing up positive things.
	And you have a huge audience, and I can tell you every time I go around the country, people walk up to me who listen to you and who figure if you like me that much, I must be okay.
	My only point here in the last 48 hours, and I think Trump will probably announce somebody either tomorrow or Thursday, is that this is up to the Donald.
	And I'm certainly prepared to do everything I can to help elect him.
	I think electing Hillary will be a disaster of the first order that will be bad for our country for generations to come.
	And I also think that if it's done right, that he could have a stunning congressional election and really have a governing majority next January.
	So I'm going to do everything I can to make that happen.
	If I do that, if I'm asked to do that in the vice president's slot, that's what I'll do.
	If I'm asked to do that as a senior advisor, that's what I'll do.
	I did all I could to elect Ronald Reagan, and he didn't even offer me the vice presidency.
	I was a first-term congressman at the time.
	Right.
	No, I understand where your motives are.
	Would you consider any other position if it was offered?
	Well, that's a long way off, but the core answer is no.
	I think that what I would like to do is help reshape and rethink the federal government and be able to move across the whole bureaucracy.
	And that would probably require something I did for people like Don Rumsfeld and Tommy Thompson in the Bush years.
	And I think it's a place where I can be a pretty helpful person in trying to rethink this stuff.
	Well, I think that's what you're best at.
	And knowing you personally, I also know that you're a believer in lifelong learning.
	You read more than anybody that I know.
	I also think that you're a more relaxed person.
	I don't know if that's a fair statement than you were when the time you were speaker.
	I remember you wrote a book at the time, you know, Lessons Learned the Hard Way.
	I know that faith has really become a big part of your life in what, the last 10 or 15 years.
	I know that, you know, renewing, I'm going to get the name wrong.
	Renewing American Civilization.
	And God and Faith in America.
	I mean, you've now put together a lot of series of things that deal with faith and the Pope and other issues.
	Well, you know, Chris and I have been very fortunate.
	We've done a remarkable movie on John Paul II called Nine Days that Change the World.
	We just did a great movie on George Washington called The First American.
	She's about to have her sixth LSD Elephant Children's book come out, teaching American history to 48-year-olds.
	And I'm about to have my second novel, Treason, come out about terrorism in the United States and overseas.
	So, you know, we stay pretty busy.
	But at the same time, as you point out, I do try to work.
	We've got a great team that we work with at Gingrich Productions.
	And we try to work on everything from reforming the Veterans Administration to rethinking the role of honest money to developing infrastructure programs for the country.
	You also did Rediscovering God in America.
	That was a big hit for you.
	That was a great movie, and also a great book.
	And of course, we just issued a We issue this a much bigger, prettier, better book that Klister really had a big role in Rediscovering God in America.
	It's a very effective book, and it's one that I think people like.
	Well, let me ask you this.
	I mean, religion and morality are indispensable supports.
	You quote George Washington.
	That was in Rediscovering God with America.
	Let me move on to some issues.
	This will play out on its own, I guess, in the next few days.
	The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayer money in the form of grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build the campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year's Israeli parliamentary elections, according to a congressional investigation.
	$350,000 was sent to One Voice to support the group's efforts to back Israeli-Palestinian peace resettlement negotiations.
	They used the money to build a voter database, train activists, and hire political consulting firms with ties to Obama's campaign, which set the stage for an anti-Netanyahu campaign.
	Wow.
	Does that disturb you as well?
	Look, the Congress will be looking into that because this idea that the Obama administration goes around the world trying to change governments it doesn't like.
	And by the way, notice that they're mostly pro-American governments.
	I mean, Netanyahu is our most solid ally in the Middle East, whereas they want to give $150 billion to the Iranian dictatorship, which is our enemy, while they're trying to knock off Netanyahu's our ally.
	It tells you how totally upside down the Obama worldview is.
	If you're pro-American, he wants to undermine you and weaken you.
	If you're anti-American, he wants to do all he can to help you and praise you.
	What do you make of giving $150 billion to Iran, not being able to say radical Islam, giving Mohammed Morsi, the former Muslim Brotherhood head, when they ousted Mubarak in the Arab Spring, he gets F-16's tanks and a billion and a half taxpayer dollars.
	He's always on the wrong side of every issue.
	What do you think it is?
	I think that there is an inherent desire to weaken America that is part of, it goes all the way back to the classes you took at Columbia as an undergraduate.
	I think is part of the radical left-wing worldview that he and Hillary believe in and that you talked about so eloquently in the summer of 2008.
	You were the only guy in the country that understood it.
	The fact is, Barack Obama is a classic left-wing ideologue who believes that a weak America is better and that we're ⁇ he said one time he doesn't want to talk about winning.
	Well, if I'm fighting ISIS, I want to talk about winning.
	If I'm fighting the Nazis, I want to talk about winning.
	If I'm fighting the Soviet Union, I want to talk about winning.
	I mean, what kind of an American president explains he doesn't want to talk about winning?
	I mean, what does he want to talk about?
	Losing or fighting to a tie?
	But he has a consistent, deep need to be positive about the people who hate us and to be negative about people who are for us.
	If you were to make the case why Donald Trump is the best person to be president, just off the top of your head, make that case.
	The United States is in a genuine, deep crisis in which its government is corrupt, bureaucratic, believes it's more powerful and superior to the American people, has a disastrous foreign policy that risks real defeat at the hands of our enemies, and is using the power of the government to impose radical values on the American people.
	That has to be changed.
	To change that, you need a person of enormous strength with great management capabilities, somebody who's not afraid of the old order, who's not afraid of the establishment, somebody who will both tell the truth and who will then with enormous energy lead a series of fights to move the system back to the classic American model of limited government, strong national defense, and very, very active job creation in the private sector.
	I think that Donald Trump understands those at the most basic of levels.
	I think he has the courage to do it, and I think he has the energy and the drive to do it.
	You know, this is my case.
	Everything, I've interviewed him so many times.
	He likes reining in government spending.
	He even likes my penny plan or Connie Mack's penny plan.
	I like his solution to replace Obamacare with health savings accounts.
	He has advocated for expanding coal mining and drilling and fracking and nuclear technology so we can be energy independent.
	It creates jobs, and it makes us not dependent anymore on countries that hate us.
	I like his ideas to fix the VA.
	I like building up our military, which has been depleted.
	I like the idea of a border and securing that border.
	I even have come to agree with him on military intervention after Iraq and Afghanistan, and we lose the war politically.
	I agree with him on choice in education and giving it back to the states.
	Isn't that what every conservative you would think would want?
	Yeah, I mean, I think in terms of the biggest things that we have said over the years that we believe in, that Donald Trump is, if not a traditional movement conservative, the most effective ally we've seen.
	He brings in new people.
	He brings in new ideas.
	He has enormous courage.
	He has, you know, with him in the contest, Republican turnout's gone up 63%.
	It's really quite remarkable.
	What do you think of him personally?
	I think he is one of the smartest people I've ever met and one of the most energetic and very, very complicated.
	You know what?
	You're describing yourself with all due respect, except I don't think you're that complicated.
	He is.
	I mean, he's much more complicated than I am.
	But in a good way, you're not saying that as a pejorative.
	You're saying, because I find his complications fascinating.
	I know what you mean.
	I don't think most people would understand what that means.
	Well, I think people think because he's able to use simple language that he's a simple person, but he's not.
	He's a person who learns rapidly, thinks deeply, and is remarkably effective.
	All right, Mr. Speaker, we always enjoy having you on the program.
	It'll be interesting to see if your life changes dramatically this week.
	We'll be watching this.
	And I'm looking forward to being with you every single night next week at the convention.
	Yeah, no, it's going to be a lot of fun.
	Mr. Speaker, always enjoy your time.
	Thank you for being with us.
	We appreciate it.
	800-94-1 Sean.
	You want to be a part of the program.
	I just think he's the right person.
	By the way, let's do a poll in there.
	Who do you guys like real quick?
	Linda, who do you like?
	Newt.
	Who do you like, Linda?
	Lauren?
	I love Newt.
	Who do you like, Jason?
	Newt.
	Who do you like?
	What's your name again?
	Ethan.
	Newt.
	Wow.
	I have a great team.
	Do you guys, is it because I, did I appeal to you or on your own you like them?
	I just feel like I could sleep better at night, you know, knowing that he would be the VP choice.
	I could really sleep better knowing that.
	Yeah.
	And I did not force anybody to say that.
	By the way, I couldn't if I wanted to.
	I have no authority over my staff.
	It's ridiculous.
	True or false?
	Absolutely.
	I'm more concerned that our country could collapse because we are not dealing with education issues, immigration issues.
	Let me ask you, immigration.
	Should all undocumented immigrants be deported?
	So undocumented or illegal?
	Undocumented, illegal.
	Okay, so if it's illegal, it's illegal.
	Undocumented?
	Are they here illegally?
	I mean, if they're here illegally, then it's illegal.
	I mean, again, back to my very first point.
	The rule of law in this country is probably the single biggest strategic advantage that we have above and beyond all other countries in the world, and we cannot allow the rule of law to break down.
	All right, that was Lieutenant General Michael Flynn on ABC.
	He's the former director, author of the brand new book, by the way, The Field Fight.
	He lays out a tremendous strategic plan to win the war against radical Islamic terrorism.
	Also, he's a name you probably have been reading and hearing a lot about as he is now being vetted and apparently on the short list to be Donald Trump's running mate, vice president.
	General, it's an honor to talk to you.
	It was an honor to meet you last night, and I really appreciate you being with us.
	Well, thanks so much, Sean, and thanks again for having me on your radio show.
	This is a really important time in our country, as we are all witnessing on our television screens and then on our radios.
	So it's amazing what's going on in the country right now.
	You know, sad times.
	I totally agree with you.
	Dangerous times.
	You know, it's every week it's now a cop shooting, a terrorist event.
	We have, you are fired.
	I want you to tell the whole story because we've got more time on radio than TV.
	Good.
	You are fired for saying radical Islam.
	Here you are, one of the nation's best, brightest, top generals.
	It is stunningly stupid to me that something like this can happen.
	But I think our audience needs to hear the whole story.
	Yeah, I mean, this is the level of political correctness that has crept into our government.
	So I was called into an office over in the Department of Defense in the Pentagon, and I walked into the office, and the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, a political appointee, the Director of National Intelligence, a political appointee, both individuals whom I knew.
	And they basically, we sat down at a small table in the office, and they told me you're being removed from your job a year early.
	You're going to be let go for a year early, basically.
	And I immediately sort of knew what was going on.
	And I knew it was a very uncomfortable moment for them, less for me, because I have been in some really difficult situations in my life.
	And I first said, the first thing I said was, are you relieving me because of my leadership?
	Is there a problem with my leadership?
	And you question that.
	Is that any question?
	And right away, the answer was, absolutely not.
	If we felt your leadership was the issue, we would remove you today.
	But we're going to let you go sort of a full two years.
	And that was really the end of the conversation.
	And I walked out.
	I was upset.
	But I knew then, as I was walking out of the Pentagon, heading back to my office where I was in charge of damn near 20,000 people, Sean, that I knew that it was because of my position inside of the government, so inside sort of baseball, on my position on al-Qaeda and radical Islam and the ideology that we're facing and the way we were approaching this war.
	And frankly, I had seen the administration, particularly in the lead up to the 2012 election, essentially mislead the American public, you know, and I was adamant inside, kind of talking, saying, hey, this is not right, and we have to call it like we see it.
	And because of a political ideology in our system, some really poor decisions were made by this president.
	And so one of those things that happened, one of the casualties of war, so to speak, a political war, was me.
	And so I left a year early from a job that I loved doing.
	And I, you know, was told we'd did great work.
	And, you know, here I was, the senior military intelligence officer in the government.
	I'd served nearly five years in combat against these guys.
	I had spent almost 34 years in the Army and in the military, almost 10 years as a flag officer, as a general.
	I had a lot of experience.
	I mean, good experience.
	And I love this country, and I felt very committed to it.
	But the whole issue about intelligence, Sean, is true to power.
	And I'm not one to play any fools.
	And I wasn't raised that way.
	So I wonder sometimes why I ever got to the level that I got to because of the way the style that I do have, which is a very frank style.
	But that's what we need today in this country.
	You know, General, I'm listening to this.
	You remind me of Phil Haney.
	And I know you know him, or Philip Haney.
	He prefers to be called.
	He likes his full name.
	He's a stickler about that.
	But Philip Haney was one of the founding members of the Department of Homeland Security.
	One of the most brilliant men I've ever met in terms of intelligence gathering.
	This is the field you're engaged in.
	I'm sure you know him.
	I know you know him.
	Yeah, I sure do.
	And so he finds the Department of Homeland Security, which we obviously needed after 9-11.
	They develop a database of names.
	They happen to be of Muslims associated with radical groups.
	Remember, this was post-9-11.
	And when Obama becomes president, he is ordered to scrub the names of those people after all of that hard work and diligence went into gathering those names.
	And by the way, also risking of lives, because you're talking about covert operations.
	And so my question, I guess, to you is, what does it tell you about the president?
	I know you can't say radical Islam.
	You can't say jihad.
	They come up with these euphemisms, man-caused disasters, overseas contingencies, workplace violence.
	How dangerous is this for all of us that want to live safely?
	Yeah, so first of all, Philip Ini is one of the most intellectually courageous people that we have had that has served this country.
	And he was, you know, he was sort of, he was sort of put in his place, which was too bad for this country.
	What I describe in this book that I just put out here today, it's out on the field of fight, how we can win the global war against radical Islam and its allies, especially these totalitarian secular allies.
	I describe in there quite a bit about the administration's sort of position and then how we are dealing with this radical ideology, both here in the country and overseas.
	And I will tell you that this is an enemy that is wrapped around and masks itself behind what we would consider a religion, which in fact it is not.
	Islam is a political system.
	It's a political ideology based on or hidden behind a religion.
	And I will tell you that it operates right here in this country.
	We have seen, and I can give you a couple of examples, personal examples in my military career where my command or my unit was part of arresting individuals, working closely with the FBI, arresting individuals who were trying to infiltrate into our military, into our services, both as intelligence people and in one case, as a tank specialist, a person who would actually drive a tank.
	Now, that was almost 10 years ago, Sean.
	And I've seen that over time in the remainder of the time that I spent in the military.
	That's right here at home.
	And I know of other cases.
	So in other words, we're talking about Major Hassan on steroids and on like a weekly basis, right?
	Absolutely.
	And so there is a campaign plan, and we have actually captured, and this campaign plan has been captured in a couple of places.
	We captured a copy of it in Pakistan.
	We captured a copy of it in Iraq.
	And there was also one found actually back in the Balkans, in the days of the Balkans in the late 90s, that the British captured.
	And then they finally turned it over to us in around 2002 timeframe.
	And all the plans are essentially the same thing.
	And it's based on this ideology, which is anti-West, anti-United States, anti-R values.
	And so we have to be conscious of it, and we have to understand that they have declared war on us well before 9-11, Sean, well before 9-11.
	And then the execution of that campaign or that war is something that we have seen take place over the last couple of years, over the last decade.
	You know, that was the major finding of the 9-11 Commission report, of which I didn't agree with everything in that report, but that was very clear.
	They're at war with us.
	We're not at war with them.
	You know, they went through the history of the embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, the USS Cole, the first trade center bombing.
	All of these incidents were a lead-up and should have put us on notice about 9-11.
	In many ways, I see that same buildup happening now.
	And that is, you know, events in Belgium and in Paris and in San Bernardino and Chattanooga, and, of course, more recently, Orlando or wherever it happens to be.
	I see the exact same pattern emerging.
	A pre-9-11 mindset has taken over the country.
	Now, in your book, you lay out a plan.
	You say we can and must win the war against jihadists.
	And that means destroy their armies, kill and capture their leaders, discredit their ideology, create a new 21st century global alliance.
	Here's my fear.
	We lost 5,000 kids, American treasure, in Iraq and Afghanistan.
	And my fear is we watched them go door to door in the beginning without even having up-armored Humvees and facing IEDs.
	So my fear is we go to war again, and then it gets politicized, just like Vietnam, 58,000 Americans die, just like Iraq and Afghanistan, 5,000 die.
	Then we pull out early, and then cities like Mosul and Takrit and Folusha and Ramadi that they captured end up in the hands of ISIS, and we have a worse enemy than ever before.
	I don't want them to fight that way anymore.
	Yeah, you're exactly right.
	And so I do, in the book, I lay out not only what you described, you know, and one of the big components of that is, of course, discrediting this ideology.
	We have to take this ideology on, just like we took on communism, fascism, imperialism, all the other anti-our way of life, Sean.
	And it's very, very important that we start to create that mindset in our own system.
	And we should not fear what we know to be true.
	We should not fear what we know to be true.
	It would be like not identifying Nazis for being Nazis or not identifying fascists.
	All right, I'm running out of time, and I could talk to you all day, and I want to make sure I get this in.
	Having met you, I was very impressed with you.
	You became friends with Donald Trump.
	You're now on the short list, according to all reports.
	Potentially, he could tap you to be his vice presidential running mate.
	Tell us a little bit about your relationship with him, and what does that mean to you?
	I met with Donald Trump late last summer and had a great conversation with him.
	He is a strong leader.
	He is a great listener.
	He asks really tough questions.
	I like that in a person.
	He's willing to engage, which I found refreshing.
	And I also walked away with an impression that this guy was, and this was a year, almost a year ago, this guy was very serious, not just about getting into a political campaign, but he was very serious about the long-term survival of our country.
	He saw, he offered me at least what I believed was a vision beyond just a four-year presidency.
	I mean, so I really got a real strong sense of, wow, this guy really gets it.
	He understands what's going on.
	And then throughout the course of this past year, I have continued to advise him.
	And he's, again, been very good about accepting whatever things I provide him.
	And it's been a range of issues, not just, you know, intelligence or national security, but all kinds of stuff on immigration, on economics, on the financial system.
	I mean, so all range of ideas.
	And he's been very acceptance and accepting of it.
	And also, prior to certain debates, I would get queries on certain issues that he was trying to make sure that in his own mind that he was trying to at least adapt and be flexible in his own thinking.
	So, I mean, that's what we have.
	One last point, Sean, if I can make.
	And I think it has to do with the Republican Party.
	And we kind of had this last night, but we have to recognize that there is a big group of people in the middle of this country.
	Okay, both sort of centrally aligned politically, but also in the middle of this country that want to vote for a big leader.
	And I think that the Republican establishment, and you know, where I'm at is I'm a very conservative guy, honestly, but I sort of come from a sort of a Reagan Democrat era, I guess, if you want to call it that.
	But what we have to do is we have to attract much greater numbers of people in order to win.
	Because if we don't win, we're going to see the same and potentially worse if we have another, if we have, frankly, and God forbid if we get Hillary Clinton in, because I don't believe she should be ever capable of holding a security grant because she's already done, you know, shown what she's shown.
	Well, I know there are some disagreements on issues like abortion and other things, but I will say this.
	Your take, your stance on national security is dead on accurate, and we better listen to you and we better follow this plan you have laid out or we're going to be in deep trouble.
	General, it was an honor for me to meet you last night.
	Thank you so much for your time.
	Thank you for being with us here on the radio today.
	Thanks, Sean, and we'll meet again.
	Thank you.
	I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry.
	Number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly.
	I think Ferguson laid bare a problem that is not unique to St. Louis or that area and is not unique to our time.
	And that is a simmering distrust that exists between too many police departments and too many communities of color.
	We've heard stories of some of these young men being stopped and put on the ground by police for no reason.
	And we have to close the justice gap.
	How justice is applied, but also how it is perceived, how it is experienced.
	Eric Holder understands this.
	That's what we saw in Ferguson this summer when Michael Brown was killed and the community was divided.
	But the anger and the emotion that followed his death awakened our nation once again to the reality that people in this room have long understood, which is in too many communities around the country, a gulf of mistrust exists between local residents and law enforcement.
	I think that there are circumstances in which trust between communities and law enforcement have broken down and individuals or entire departments may not have the training or the accountability to make sure that they are protecting and serving all people and not just some.
	What's also true is that there are still instances in which a young black boy or brown boy is not being evaluated in terms of risk precisely in the same way as a white young person might be by the police.
	Too many instances of what appears to be police officers interacting with individuals, primarily African-American, often poor, in ways that raise troubling questions.
	Too many young men of color feel targeted by law enforcement.
	Guilty of walking while black or driving while black.
	Judged by stereotypes that fuel fear and resentment and hopelessness.
	And the worst part of it is it scars the hearts of our children.
	Scars the hearts of white children who grow unnecessarily fearful of somebody who doesn't look like them.
	Stains the heart of black children who feel as if no matter what he does, he'll always be under suspicion.
	That is not the society we want.
	Now, the challenge for us as the federal government is that we don't run these police forces.
	I can't federalize every police force in the country and force them to retrain.
	But what I can do is to start working with them collaboratively so that they can begin this process of change themselves.
	We have to own up to the fact that occasionally there are going to be problems here, just as there are in every other occupation.
	There are some bad politicians who are corrupt.
	There are folks in the business community or on Wall Street who don't do the right thing.
	Well, there's some police who aren't doing the right thing.
	I think there are police departments that have to do some soul searching.
	I think there's some communities that have to do some soul searching.
	But I think we as a country have to do some soul searching.
	All of us as Americans should be troubled by these shootings because these are not isolated incidents.
	They're symptomatic of a broader set of racial disparities that exist in our criminal justice system.
	I think the reason that the organizers used the phrase Black Lives Matters was not because they were suggesting nobody else's lives matter.
	Rather, what they were suggesting was there is a specific problem that is happening in the African American community that's not happening in other communities.
	And that is a legitimate issue that we've got to address.
	We as a society, particularly given our history, have to take this seriously.
	And one of the ways of avoiding the politics of this and losing the moment is everybody just stepping back for a second and understanding that the African American community is not just making this up.
	And it's not just something being politicized.
	It's real.
	And there's a history behind it.
	And we have to take it seriously.
	And it's incumbent then on the activists to also take seriously the tough job that police have.
	So the president invites Black Lives Matter as, you know, pig in a blanket, fry them like bacon.
	What do we want dead cops?
	When do we want them now?
	And of course, they get to go to the White House and meet with the president.
	Then the president praises the Black Lives Matter movement.
	And of course, Hillary Clinton is seeking their endorsement.
	And of course, they're counseling her on criminal justice issues.
	And it's pretty outrageous.
	But you hear the constant refrain of the president.
	Now, look at all of this through the prism of the president speaking at the Dallas Memorial today.
	It's, to me, I mean, he's been fueling the flames, the fire of all of this.
	Now, my big question is what I've been raising all week.
	Since Obama's been president, 3,459 people have died in his home city of Chicago.
	He's only spoken out nine times.
	We've gone and searched the records again and again and again.
	Nine times, 3,459 dead, thousands more have been injured and shot.
	The president, he speaks out without any facts in the Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman incident.
	Trayvon, that could have been me 35 years ago.
	Trayvon could be my son.
	This is before there was any trial, before any evidence being presented, before an eyewitness said that he observed Trayvon Martin doing a ground and pound right on George Zimmerman's head onto the cement.
	And we heard the screams of George Zimmerman.
	Then, of course, you heard the president talking about Michael Brown.
	He weighed in on that case as well.
	Again, high-profile racial case in America before any evidence was presented.
	Here's a guy on video robbing a store, intimidating a clerk.
	And it was black eyewitnesses in Ferguson, Missouri, black eyewitnesses that said they saw Michael Brown fight for an officer's gun.
	That's where the first shot went off inside the police car.
	and then charge repeatedly at the officer who tried to stop shooting again and again.
	And that's why Darren Wilson was not indicted in that case.
	Same thing with Freddie Gray in Baltimore.
	You see, people's expectations are brought to a hide.
	The expectation there's going to be guilty verdicts.
	No cops have been found guilty there.
	Here, to sort through all of this, our friend, the Reverend C.L. Bryant, creator of the film Runaway Slave, he's a host of the C.L. Bryant show, and he only invited me on like one time because he doesn't really like me.
	The Reverend Charles Christian Adams, presiding pastor at Hartford Memorial Baptist Church in Detroit, welcome both of you.
	Now, Reverend C.L., you also have a background in history, weren't you in charge of the NAACP where you live?
	Yes, I was president of the NAACP in Garland, Texas, a two-term president, Sean.
	So I've seen both sides of this street.
	And there has been an evolution from the late 80s to this point in time that has led the black community to the point that you're talking about today.
	And it has been unfortunately actually led by rhetoric like the president and Al Sharpton continue to spew as far as not taking responsibility for the image that black people present to America and to police forces.
	No white people, no one other than black folks can, in fact, solve the problem that is systemic within the black culture in America.
	We are doing so much of this to ourselves by disintegrating our own families and blaming it on outside sources.
	It is a black problem, and it has to be fixed by black people.
	Well, I think all good people can work together, C.L.
	I mean, I'd do anything to help you in any community because I believe we're all children of God, although you're a better Christian than I am, I have no doubt.
	But let me ask you this, Reverend Charles Christian Adams.
	I want to ask you.
	Do you think it's appropriate for a president of the United States to continue to rush to judgment before evidence is presented in high-profile cases, basically fanning the flames of racial tensions without any knowledge, any facts, any evidence?
	And then when you have 3,459 dead people since he's been president in Chicago, he virtually says nothing.
	That sounds to me like selective moral outrage that he only speaks out when it advances a narrative he wants to advance.
	That's what it sounds like to me.
	Well, they're going to criticize him either way.
	If he doesn't comment, if he doesn't have anything to say, then they're going to say he stands mute in the face of all this unrest and racial relations are breaking down under his presidency.
	How about he could speak out?
	How about when he does speak out?
	I don't have a problem speaking out.
	How about he says, wait till all the facts are in, that we have the presumption of innocence until people are proven guilty, that we've got to believe in our justice system.
	And maybe in the course of the eight years when 3,459 Chicago residents were being killed and thousands more shot, maybe if he cared that much about lives, period, maybe he would have publicly gone there many times and tried to help the situation there.
	But Sean, understand this.
	The people who you are talking about are not police officers sworn to protect and serve.
	And he has spoken about the issues that are causing a lot of the problems that are in the black community.
	Now, to suggest that violence is a black problem is really, it's insulting.
	And it's a shame that it's coming from the NACP.
	Did I say it's only a black problem?
	I don't know the race of all 3,459 people.
	But, you know, for example, the president said, I think it's very hard to untangle the motives of the shooter in Dallas.
	But when Dylan Roof, a racist, he came out and he had racist motives, the president immediately said, well, it's obvious why he did this.
	Don't you think when a guy says, I want to kill white people and white cops, that's racist?
	Well, he put it in his own manifesto.
	So, I mean, it was there for the world to see why he did what he did.
	Who's he?
	Tyler Roof.
	Okay, well, what about the guy that told the police chief of Dallas that he wanted to kill white people and more specifically, white cops?
	Absolutely.
	And why won't the president admit that?
	That was condemned by the president.
	No, it wasn't.
	The president said it's hard to untangle the motives of the shooter.
	We may never know.
	The president and Loretta Lynch themselves said that there are people who are hiding behind the Black Lives Matter movement and the protests that are happening so that they can further their own agendas.
	And the assumption is that this young man in Dallas who did this was part of that group that wants to hide behind nonviolent protesters, for the most part who have been nonviolent, but we want to focus in on the violence.
	But he has spoken about gun control.
	He has spoken about the economic disparities that cause a lot of the interpersonal violence.
	And the problem is, is that these police officers, we are not doing them any service by sending them into communities that are rife with drugs, life.
	Okay, but liberalism hasn't 58% increase in black Americans on food stamps since Obama's been president.
	That's not exactly success.
	Let me go back to C.L. Bryant.
	C.L., if you look at Black Lives Matter, Texas chapter, good morning.
	In lieu of last night's murders of the five Dallas officers, it is what it is, justified.
	These killer cops have been killing our black men and women every day and getting away with it.
	Oh, well, I have no sympathy whatsoever for those cops' lives nor their families.
	You don't give a damn when it's our black men and women they're slaughtering.
	What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
	We're tired, and we're tired of you all killing us.
	So they showed you just how tired we are.
	You're going to learn today or yesterday, blah, blah, blah.
	That's what Black Lives Matter, the same group that got invited to the White House that Hillary seeks out counsel from.
	Your reaction.
	The hypocrisy of that, Sean, is actually.
	It actually screams at you.
	Let me tell you why.
	If, in fact, you use that same group of people that flood the streets of Dallas, Ferguson, Baltimore, and you flood the streets of New Orleans, you flood the streets of Chicago and say we're not going to take this anymore, that we're tired of you killing us, talking to the people who are actually perpetrating that type of crime and murder in the streets of those cities that I named,
	I think that would be the most effective way to send a message to the genesis of this in the community.
	Black people only represent 13% of the entire population.
	And for someone to say that black men, young black men, are being hunted down and shot is absolutely ludicrous.
	Let me tell you why.
	Because of that 13% of the entire population of America, young black men may represent 4% to 5% of that.
	If, in fact, there was an all-out effort to try and take out young black men by an armed police force, Sean, that would not be a very difficult thing to do.
	But when you look in Chicago, when you look in New Orleans, Philadelphia, and you see these types of things happening, young black men, by and large, are the greatest threat to themselves.
	And we're only aiding and abetting that by not dealing with the systemic and the genesis of this problem within the community.
	I'm talking about all Americans.
	I got you.
	And that's something we have to face.
	When are we going to face it?
	When are we going to deal with the conditions that cause the violence?
	But wait a second.
	Obama had eight years, and black Americans and minority Americans, they're not better off, are they?
	They're in worse condition than when he took office.
	But I got to run.
	All right, let's get to our busy phones.
	Many of you have been patient.
	Don't forget later this week we will be in Cleveland, Ohio, in the lead up to our coverage next week at the conventions.
	JG, Miami, Florida, News Radio 600, WIOD.
	What's up, J.G. Sean?
	How are you?
	Sean, I was listening, and you know, when the general was added to the list of possible VP candidates, I just, I looked at him and I looked at the entire list, and I really, you know, thinking, you know, who really best?
	And then after hearing your interview with the general, I've got to tell you, I believe that it would be a brilliant move to consider him for the VP, Sean.
	Listen, they are considering him.
	Here's my only ⁇ Listen, I'm in love with the general.
	I never knew Mike Flynn before this, and I got to spend time with him last night, and I've been reading his book, and now I've interviewed him twice between last night on TV and here today.
	He is extraordinarily bright, impressive.
	He's somebody I want in a big position in government.
	I don't care if it's Joint Chiefs or CIA Director or Department of Secretary of Defense.
	I'd be fine with any of those.
	Well, so would I.
	And the thing about it is, is if you consider the world as it is, Sean, you know, Trump needs, in other words, if he's VP, it's going to send an automatic signal to the rest of the world immediately.
	Here's two things, three things that I think he's missing that, for example, Newt Gingrich has.
	He doesn't have the experience as a candidate to prosecute the case articulately against Hillary and also build up Donald Trump to the country, which is part of what a VP nominee would do.
	He doesn't have any experience with Congress.
	And that means, and part of Trump's agenda is very bold.
	You heard Jeb Bush say last night that he'll never get to build the wall.
	I don't believe that for a second, by the way.
	I think Trump will build the wall.
	And if I'm wrong, I would be very disappointed.
	And the third thing that I think that he is missing is what if there's a financial crisis?
	He doesn't have that experience.
	He's great in anything military related.
	We'd be so lucky to have a guy like him serving as chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Secretary of Defense, CIA Director, Covert Operations.
	I love the guy.
	So does that make sense?
	That's my opposition.
	Did we lose JG?
	I guess we lost him.
	All right, Jeff in Los Angeles.
	Jeff, you're on the Sean Hannity Show.
	Glad you called, sir.
	Hey, Sean, thank you so much.
	And you're a great American.
	I've been hannotized for about 10 years now, and just really thankful for you.
	You know, I really think that Newt is the man, as you well said, and I believe that we have to look at the White House run four years at a time.
	Newt is four years older than Trump, and obviously that's something that needs to be taken into consideration.
	But we need to capture the flag.
	We need to get Trump in there.
	Gingrich would be the man to do it.
	And I believe we just need to look at it four years at a time.
	Let's say Thursday or Friday of this week, Trump announced Newt as his running mate.
	All right, would there be a lot of commentary?
	Oh, let's look at his age.
	Oh, let's look at his past.
	He's a controversial figure.
	Sure.
	That's all going to happen.
	But then there's one thing that's going to happen immediately thereafter.
	Newt Gingrich is going to be on the media, and people are going to get to hear him.
	And people will hear him dissect and deconstruct Hillary Clinton more articulately than anybody else possibly can.
	And then he'll lay out the case for Trump, I believe, probably better than Trump can do himself.
	The next thing is, you know, I really believe he's probably going to be Trump's best strategist to win.
	He was the architect in 94.
	He's learned a lot more since.
	And honestly, we're going to need somebody as strong as Newt to be able to deal with a hostile Congress like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell.
	Couldn't agree more, Sean.
	And I think Donald Trump is like the George Pat General George Patton of politics.
	He sometimes gets himself in trouble with the things that he says, but we need somebody that has that kind of courage and boldness to go in and to do the things that all of us are so frustrated about that are not happening.
	And I agree.
	Newt would be the guy to advocate and also just articulate Trump's positions in ways that I don't think Trump can even do himself.
	So I am 100% in agreement with you, Sean, and I'm really hoping that when Donald Trump announces that it's going to be Newt Gingrich, I think it'll be the best decision he's ever made.
	I hope he does.
	I think it's either going to be him or Pence.
	I think that's what it's now come down to.
	And to me, and I like Mike Pence, and it sounds like I probably don't, but I do like him.
	I think he's a good man.
	I think he's been a good governor.
	He was a good congressman.
	But he doesn't have the national experience that Newt has.
	And honestly, I can't see him prosecuting the case, making the case for Trump and against her.
	And I just, to me, that's vital.
	You can't change the country for the better if you don't win the election.
	You can't build the wall.
	You can't fix the VA.
	You can't build up the military.
	You can't balance the budget.
	You can't eliminate Obamacare.
	You can't create jobs and national security benefits by expanding coal and drilling and fracking and nuclear technology for energy.
	You can't do any of these things unless you win.
	And if we don't win, and I want to win first, and I think the guy that's going to help you win is Newt.
	And then I think he's the guy that's going to help you govern.
	Now, other people may disagree, but that's fine.
	Karen in Florida, as a matter of fact, does.
	Hi, Karen.
	How are you?
	Glad you called.
	Yeah, how are you today?
	I'm good.
	What's going on?
	Thanks for calling.
	Well, obviously, I have a great admiration for Newt.
	I mean, he's a brilliant strategist, but my concern is we have a challenge in this election.
	And the challenge is that we have to beat Hillary.
	And from my perspective, after everything I've been watching and seeing, there's no way that we can win on a ticket where there are two gentlemen.
	And the reason I say that is we have got to cross over culturally.
	The Republican Party has yet to do that.
	We also need to cross over and have a viable candidate, possibly a governor, a woman, who could possibly come alongside him and support him.
	Use my name.
	Give me a name.
	Give me a name.
	The governor of Arizona.
	The governor of Arizona, Jam Brewer, you're talking about?
	Yes.
	I like Jam Brewer a lot.
	I don't think she has what we need for that position.
	I love her, as a matter of fact.
	She's a lovely lady.
	They should be able to look at the business.
	Listen, I'm making it the governor's.
	All right, stay on the line there.
	Let's see.
	Christine is in Edmonds, Oklahoma.
	Christine, say hi to Karen in Florida.
	Karen, say hi to Christine in Oklahoma.
	Hi, Christine.
	How are you?
	Hi, how are you?
	All right, Christine, what's your point you wanted to make to her?
	Well, I just wanted to say I believe Newt Gingrich would be a very good VP.
	But I believe that would be only if he'll also put you somewhere in the cabinet, Sean, maybe like press secretary, something like that.
	You know, some people have asked me if I would serve in any position.
	I would think about it.
	Well, Sean, the reason I say that.
	If I thought I could help my country, I would think about it.
	I mean, Sean, you are a great strategist, we know, especially with the Congress and the Senate.
	But he could also be great as a Secretary of State.
	I am not kidding.
	Based upon his knowledge base and what he could do and the impact and the influence he could make, my biggest concern is we have got to cross over.
	I will tell you, Hillary will use the race card.
	Hillary will use the issue that she's a woman.
	And if she has her running rate, which I think she probably has already chosen, we've been seeing obviously that person being interviewed, we will not have a chance.
	I'll be honest, I'm not a big believer in identity politics, gender politics, even geographic politics.
	I think that if we want to fix the country, you pick the best, brightest, most available people to do it.
	He's the last man that balanced the budget, gave us a surplus, and was literally transformative.
	You know, somebody said to me the other day, well, you know, Newt is somewhat, he's somewhat controversial.
	And I said, yeah, he is.
	You have to step on toes in D.C. if you want to get some things done.
	But if that's the case, how well would Donald Trump be vetted?
	You'd get, you know, 50-page book on Donald Trump, page three, you'd stop reading it.
	Seriously.
	I want people that can get things done.
	And people that get things done tend to step on top.
	I'll give you an example.
	Linda's our producer here.
	Linda, if we were vetting her for this job and some of the people that she's yelled at and cursed at over the years that have treated her horribly would not give her the best recommendation for the job.
	But she's the best person for the job.
	She may not vet well unless somebody comes to me and says, well, what kind of producer was she?
	And I'd say, that's the girl you want in your corner.
	You should be happy.
	That's part of my charm, I think.
	It's part of my appeal.
	But is that true or false?
	That's absolutely true.
	There would be so many people that say, oh, man, she's.
	Bull in a China shop.
	My nickname, I have been told it's not been said to me directly is Bulldog.
	By who?
	Several publicists and some guests on our show have said, Do you know what your nickname is in the business?
	And I said, no, it's Bulldog.
	Well, then, okay.
	Thank you very much.
	But I wouldn't hire anybody else.
	I love your boss.
	For example, Jason.
	Jason has his own quirks.
	Jason's the greatest engineer in the world.
	We love you, Jason.
	I mean, you're not exactly Mr. Social back there.
	In your old age.
	Like Lauren, even though she had a horrible day while Linda was out.
	I mean, she booked.
	Okay, now I know you're lying.
	What?
	She had a horrible day when you were out of the way.
	Because you were in a horrible mood.
	No, I was not in a horrible mood.
	Okay.
	No, I wasn't.
	Let's move out of that glass house.
	It's getting shaky.
	Let's go to Don in Lake Ron Concoma.
	Don, welcome aboard, sir.
	Glad you called.
	It's great to talk to you again.
	Yeah, put me in the column for Newt Gingrich also.
	Thank you.
	During the last 2012 debates, he really stood out because he can stand on his feet and he can handle the mainstream media.
	Well, I think that's really look, this is a media age.
	Well, he doesn't take any, he doesn't take any nonsense with these scotch questions.
	Remember he said in one of the debates, that's a Mickey Mouse question, and it got such great feedback.
	You know, look, Newt is a problem solver.
	America needs a smart problem solver.
	He's a strategist.
	I also think there's something else about Newt that I would bring up because I know him personally so well, Don, and that is, you know what, he's not the same person he was a decade ago.
	He's far more religious.
	Look at his projects, God and Faith and America and all these other projects that Gingrich Productions have been involved in, et cetera.
	Yeah, he wants to educate the young.
	Yeah.
	We need to do that.
	And I think he's mellowed.
	He's probably read 2,000 books since he left office.
	I mean, he's one of the most well-read people I know.
	He reads history.
	He reads novels.
	He writes them.
	He's a very bright guy.
	He can explain the conservative message, and that's what I like.
	Yeah, I agree with you.
	Thank you, Big Don.
	Appreciate it.
	Los Angeles, Jeff is on the Sean Hannity Show.
	What's up, Jeff?
	How are you?
	Glad you called.
	Hey, Sean.
	Yeah, Jeff again.
	It's a pleasure to speak with you again as well.
	Yeah, I just keep hearing over and over the people saying the positive things about Newt that I agree with, and then having a woman as a running mate would be great as well.
	But it's about communicating our ideas, the Republican conservative ideas, to the target audience of people out there who are undecided and or have been lured by the Democrats for all these years to really, Sean, understand what it is that Donald Trump wants to do for our nation.
	I think it's obvious what he wants to do for our nation.
	You know, Donald Trump wants to build the wall.
	He wants to fix the VA.
	He wants to get our budget in balance, but increase spending and rebuild our military.
	We know that he believes in health care savings accounts to replace Obamacare, free market competition.
	We know he's big into energy independence.
	I've asked him a hundred times about it.
	We know where he stands with justices because he's laid out the names of the type of justices he'd appoint.
	He wants the education to go back to the states.
	I mean, that's a pretty bold agenda.
	If he got that done, our country would be infinitely better off, and he would be probably one of the most successful presidents of modern time if he could pull all that off.
	Totally agree.
	Sean, I have one final shot.
	Sean Hannity for press secretary.
	It would be entertaining, wouldn't it?
	Well, it'd be entertaining.
	And Sean, I'll tell you what, you could be part of that arrowhead, that spearhead to drive truth into the fabric of our society and our political culture.
	But to see you out there every day with the press would just really tickle my heart, Sean.
	I'm at this point in my life where I only want to serve people and my country.
	And on this radio program, I know Hillary is bad for our country.
	I really believe, having interviewed Trump all these times, and I understand his strengths, I understand his weaknesses, but if he could pull off this agenda that I just laid out for you, I know our country is going to be in much better shape than it is today, and we have a fighting chance of handing off a better country to our kids for tomorrow.
	And you know what?
	I'm 54 years old.
	You know, as I tell my kids all the time, you've got to find what you love.
	I've had my life.
	This is my life.
	I love my life.
	I feel blessed beyond measure in my life.
	I don't deserve all that I have in my life.
	But I really, but I started with nothing.
	What about all those people that are starting with nothing and have no ladder?
	The ladder has been ripped out from under them.
	There was a ladder for me to climb.
	That's Hillary's America.
	That's Obama's America.
	That's what they've now done to this country.
	And it breaks my heart because, you know what?
	Young people living at home with mommy and daddy in their basement and the lowest labor participation rate since the 1970s is sad.
	It's pathetic.
	Some of these kids paid a quarter of a million dollars for an education.
	They can't even get a job.

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