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So I just met Gary Byrne.
He's going to join us uh in an hour from right now.
He is the former White House Secret Service officer, wrote the book Crisis of Character, a White House Secret Service Officer discloses his firsthand experience with Hillary, Bill, and how they operate.
Wow.
Read the book over the weekend.
This is a powerful, powerful book and indictment on somebody in this presidential election year that does not have the temperament to be the president of the United States.
But you know what?
Let him tell a story.
And I also just warned him.
I said, you know that there is a whole team of paid sycophants of Hillary that are out there.
Media Matters right now is out there scanning the book.
Every chapter, every verse.
You're a horrible human.
You're a liar.
He's a liar.
Discredited books.
You know, I was watching David Gergen the day Trump gave his speech, and Trump had mentioned Peter Schweitzer in the book.
There was like one minor paragraph that needed to be edited in the book that they didn't quite get right out of a whole book.
He's discredited.
Meanwhile, the whole book was dead on accurate, but for the one paragraph, and that's just the way the left works.
They smear, slander, besmirch.
It's basically just a matter of that's general operating procedure for them.
That's what they do.
I tell you what's going to happen every single election year, and people don't listen to me.
I'll give you an example of this.
ABC this weekend, you had a top surrogate for Hillary Clinton claiming on national television that Donald Trump saying America first, and that brand of nationalism is really racism.
What do I say?
Now remember, her mentor, the person that she loves so dearly was the former Klansman, Robert KKKKK Bird.
Or that J. William Fulbright, Bill Clinton's uh mentor, the person he most admires, known segregationist.
Al Gore's father votes against the Civil Rights Act, voting rights act.
These people are phony.
But anyway, if you're too pro-American and you want to put America first, deep down what you're really saying is you're a racist.
Anyway, that was said by Michael Eric Dyson.
Isn't he an MBC contributor too?
I don't know what he does.
Anyway, he said Donald Trump's nationalism is clearly fueled by the kind of racism that Americans should soundly reject.
Alex Castellanos talked about voters rejecting elitism both in the UK and the U.S. Dyson said elitism is a red herring.
He argued Hillary Clinton is more closely embodies democratic values than Trump and his nationalism do, and nationalism is really white racist supremacist nationalism.
You know, it's just nonsense.
And it's so I promise Donald Trump, let's let's hit the checklist.
We ought to have, you know, like a date and you win a prize.
When is Hillary going to play the gender card?
When is Hillary going to play Republicans Want Dirty Air and Dirty Water in that card?
When are they going to play Grandma gets thrown over the cliff and the scare tactic there?
Because all of that is predictable.
When you don't have an agenda, that's all you've got.
And, you know, I I'll tell you one thing was really scary that I saw in the Daily Caller today.
The Democratic Party at their convention is ready to stage their own global warming inquisition if Hillary wins the White House.
According to the Daily Caller, Democratic operatives responsible for creating the party platform this year have unanimously adopted a provision calling for the Department of Justice to investigate companies who disagree with Democrats on global warming so-called science.
Oh, if you're a science denier, if you're a global Warming denier.
By the way, check the ice cap ice build this year was like at its highest in decades.
You know, I'm not saying I'm why did they have to have to at the Anglican university?
Why'd they have to alter the data if it was so overwhelming the evidence?
And according to all you fearmongerers out there, this is all based on a political agenda.
The political agenda predicated on a belief that capitalism is bad.
That capitalism rapes and pillages the planet for profit, and that somehow we're destroying human beings are going to blow the earth up.
According to Al Gore, we should all be dead by right now.
And none of which is happening, and none of which can happen.
And there's a certain ebb and flow to the earth's temperature, which is rather minute when you actually look at it.
And all their predictions about a new ice age coming in the 70s turned out to be bogus.
Then it all became global warming, and then it became climate change because the global warming was followed by years of colder weather, and um, you know, it goes on and on.
That's why they want to shut down the coal industry.
That's why they want to stop fracking, and on and on.
You know, Steve Moore's book was uh pretty good on this.
The goal of climate policies is to eliminate the coal, oil, natural gas industries, which relies on which is which is the lifeblood of our economy.
In the first eight months of 2015, wind produced 1.7% of all energy consumed and 4.3% of our electricity.
Similarly, disappointing, solar power merely produced 0.6% of energy consumed.
It is the lifeblood of a free society.
And the technological miracle of hydrofracking has given hundreds of years worth of clean burning fuel.
People forget natural gas is a clean burning fuel that actually reduces greenhouse gas emissions.
It's also never been specifically shown to harm the environment despite media claims, and we are the we are the Saudi Arabia.
We're the Middle East of natural gas.
And now we've got the technology to do it.
And you know what?
It's creating millions of jobs, high-paying jobs for millions of Americans.
And we're too stupid to allow most Americans to have those jobs.
Anyway, so I guess they're going to put you in jail.
I want to go back.
There's um there is a democratic fear emerging after the Brexit vote on Thursday of last week, and how it now shows trouble ahead for Hillary Clinton.
Now, Democratic insiders, they're worried that the same forces that led to victory for Brexit could spell doom for Hillary's presidential campaign.
And then you know what?
They should be afraid.
Because the same sentiment that existed in Great Britain over immigration, over refugees, over the high costs of the European Union are the same things, same issues that we're dealing with now in this country.
Anyway, outside of her campaign, there are Democrats that said the strength of the leave block in economically frustrated regions in Britain, a shock after polls showed that the sides were equally positioned for a victory, could be a cause of concern at home where the economy's been struggling, and all those statistics I give.
Look, if you're one of the 95 million Americans out of the labor force, what good did Obama's presidency did?
What did it do for you?
If you're one of the 50 million in poverty, what did Obama's presidency do for you?
If you're one of the 46 million on food stamps, what is the Obama presidency doing for you?
Even if you have an Obama phone, what is that doing for your life and the opportunity?
What is Hillary's economic policy that's going to get you out of your situation so you can climb the ladder of success in this country?
Those disproportionately impacted, negatively impacted by these policies, interestingly, happen to be core bases of the Democratic Party.
Minorities.
Black Americans, Hispanic Americans are suffering the most.
Obama.
You got Obama phone?
Yes, everybody in Cleveland, low minority, got Obama phone.
Keep Obama in president, you know.
He gave us a phone.
He gave you a phone.
How'd he give you a phone?
You shad enough to bearing you on full stems, you want social security.
You got low income, you disability.
Okay, what's wrong with Romney again?
Romney!
He sucks!
Well, Romney probably would have created jobs.
That terrible human being had binders with women's resumes in it that he was going to hire.
Anyway, I want to go back to this vote from Thursday, and I do think this is trouble.
I do think that it is a good fear.
Obama's top political advisor, interestingly, guided Cameron's uh Brexit collapse.
Now, the American media is doing a pretty good job to ignore, I think, one of the more important political angles to all of this.
Turns out that Obama's political operation was directly involved in trying to defeat Brexit.
None other than Jim Messina, who managed Obama's 2012 re-election campaign.
He was the technology guru who boosted fundraising and voter turnout through the roof for Obama.
Anyway, Messina went over to London to manage Prime Minister Cameron's anti-Brexit campaign.
And judging by the results, he just blew it.
Now, what makes this even more significant is Messina's campaign team is the political operation that Hillary Clinton is counting on to defeat Donald Trump.
And way back in January, the Business Insider reported that Obama's 2012 campaign manager, Jim Messina, has been hired by the Remain campaign to try and keep Britain in the European Union at the upcoming EU summit and referendum.
Described by the nation as Obama's enforcer, the London Times reports that Messina had joined the Remain campaign, but does not give specifics about what the exact role Messina was playing.
Messina, known for his innovative use of technology, exploitation of data-driven organizing and fundraising.
He also has experience of the British political landscape and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
The Conservatives won Messina bragged he's never lost an election.
We lost one now.
Anyway, given the enormous repercussions of this decision to leave the EU.
Now, if you want to put things in context, what happened in Britain on Friday is probably historically going to go down as the most significant event in the post-World War II history of Great Britain.
Now the most obvious then immediate impact is, you know, now they're engulfed in this political turmoil with the Prime Minister announcing his resigning once the Conservative Party chooses his successor, and Cameron's allies are working to stop Boris Johnson, who is the former London mayor and the most prominent figure in the anti-EU movement.
Now, this turmoil in the Conservative Party was bound to happen, but what's more surprising is the fact that the far-left Labor Party, Jeremy Corbyn, is now facing a rebellion in his ranks.
Hillary Benn, the Labor Party spokesperson for foreign affairs, fired Saturday evening for disloyalty.
That led to around a dozen leading Labor shadow government members resigning their posts in the hopes of forcing a leadership election.
And their basic complaint is that Corbyn didn't campaign hard enough on behalf of the Remain coalition in the EU ahead of last week's referendum.
Remain was the official Labor Party position.
Corbyn was only a tepid supporter of the Remain movement, not for a conservative, but for far left reasons.
And deposing Corbyn would be the wisest thing the Labor Party could do since he's so radical and he's in favor of nationalizing industries and having closer ties with Hamas and Hezbollah.
That's not the, you know, kind of guy that makes Bernie Sanders look like a right winger.
Anyway, but the main point here is that these developments underscore the stunning vote to leave the EU as completely scrambled things, and Britain is now deeply, deeply divided, and it's a deeply uncertain future for what lies ahead for them.
These are uncharted waters for the world.
I see the Dow is, you know, where you know doing its dance down 311 today.
You know, they lost what, 3% the other day, another 2% or so today, but you know, there's something else going on which I think is a lot deeper.
Washington Post of all places actually hit the nail on the head in a front page story.
The vote in Britain to leave the European Union lays bare the most dangerous obstacle confronting the world's most ambitious economic and political bloc, the voice of the European people.
Goes on to say the elites who forced the union, a sprawling labor and consumer market of more than 500 million people have for decades pursued an agenda of deepening integration.
French bakers, uh German bankers, Italian restauranteurs would find themselves beholden to Brussels, the administrative capital, now viewed with the same amount of voter sympathy in towns and villages of Europe as Washington is in America's heartland.
And then it goes on to say the British result amounted to a shock because of its see, an outright pull out from the EU, and it forces Europe now to face the fact that broad public discontent with the EU by no means is confined to Britain.
Voters in France, Ireland, the Netherlands have previously made clear that they want to get out as well.
And the United Kingdom's vote was a direct challenge to the viability of the European Union.
And even those who are pro-EU are now conceding that there's a profound disconnect between bureaucrats in Brussels calling for more Europe, a slogan meaning more integration, and millions of citizens that they serve who say they want less.
Oh Pepi La Pew.
Remember that character in the cartoon?
He was funny.
SR French colleagues.
Oh, Monsieur Lee.
I remember the I remember with distinction.
I used to actually go around mimicking it.
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Harry Byrne, his book Crisis of Character, a White House Secret Service Officer, discloses his firsthand experience with Hillary, Bill, and how they operate.
Also, Senator Mike Lee will check in with us today.
I've gotten some emails.
Some are very concerned.
Look at the polls, Hannity.
Hillary's up 14 in the Reuters poll.
Hillary's up nine in the was it nine or no, more than that.
Up 12 in the Washington Post poll.
What are you gonna what do you say about that?
Well, the Wall Street Journal MBC poll was in the margin of error at four.
Um, anyway, the poll shows Hillary leading by these points.
Here's a problem.
Gateway pundit was the first that I saw to report this.
In the Reuters poll, there were twin thousand two hundred and one respondents.
Of the one thousand two hundred and one, six hundred and twenty-six were Democrats.
Four hundred and twenty-three were Republicans.
In other words, fifty-two percent of respondents were Democrats.
Thirty-five percent were Republican.
Shocking.
Anyway, Reuters is not the only misleading poll.
The Washington Post ABC News poll.
Fifty-one percent uh thirty-six percent of respondents Democrats, twelve percent more than Republicans at twenty-four percent.
Now that's like the three polls we had last week.
Now, if you get more even and more balanced in the people you're polling, you're gonna have a different result.
So I'm not exactly worried.
One thing I can tell you right now is the media has fully, completely, utterly now gone in the tank for Hillary.
It's all now it's full on board, nonstop.
Whatever Hillary's talking point of the day is, they're going with it.
And that's just the way it's gonna be now, probably through the rest of the campaign.
Although I can tell you it's I am I just my gut tells me there's gonna be an FBI criminal referral.
And I don't think Loretta Lynch is gonna act on it, and I think it's gonna define this election.
That's my guess.
My wishful thinking, Hannity.
And on Top of that, I also think that, you know, and I think Democrats reflected it over the weekend.
You saw them on TV.
They've gone nuts.
They're the ones predicting the apocalypse in light of the Brexit vote.
I mean, the anger, the agony, the outrage, consternation, petulance.
Almost uh, you know, the left almost makes the vote to leave the EU worth it all by itself.
But I do think it's important to clarify what's going on.
Over at Commentary Magazine's website, I thought it was a pretty thoughtful analysis.
Britons did not vote to reject cultural, economic, historic, or geographic Europe.
They voted to reject regulatory Europe.
They voted to reject a bureaucracy that seemed to them bloated, distant, ineffectual, unaccountable.
I'll add two things to this.
They also voted because immigration and migration.
They also voted because anybody from any one of the what, 28 participating nations can go to their country and immediately access their health system, their school system, and be full-fledged citizens.
And that was a bigger part of it.
In other words, very much the same issues we're facing here.
And you got Obama's top political advisor guiding Cameron's Brexit vote.
Didn't work out too well.
And I think this fear does signal trouble for Hillary.
How much I don't know.
I can't say.
But it's definitely real.
All right, I told you about the Democratic platform calling for the prosecution if you're a global warming skeptic.
Uma Abedin, Anthony Wiener's wife, anyway, is uh scheduled to be grilled tomorrow by the lawyers for Jihad Watch.
Remember, I keep warning you, remember the name Brian Pagliano.
He's the guy that pled the fifth, then was granted a immunity deal, proffer agreement that he entered into with prosecutors, so he can't prosecute.
He pled the fifth in the judicial watch deposition, but it's still more bad news for Hillary.
In other words, Judicial Watch is insisting on putting their witnesses under oath, unlike the FBI.
Anyone that wants to place bets on how many times Huma pleads the fifth tomorrow.
Probably a lot.
Pagliano so far is at 125.
She may be good for 300.
Who knows?
So we'll watch that pretty closely.
Um I see that apparently breaking the law and sneaking into America is not enough for some illegal alien activist groups.
They're now trying to forcibly shut down the ICE enforcement operations.
Anyway, there's an immigrants right, a bunch of immigrants' rights activists tried to block the road to the Federal Immigration Agent's headquarters in Atlanta today, demanding the president stop deporting any more illegal immigrants after last week's Supreme Court stalemate.
You know, the president said on Friday, basically he's just going to ignore the court order.
That's not a priority for us.
And we get to prioritize.
It's called discretion.
Basically, the president is just lawless and wants to do anything he wants, and he doesn't care what the Supreme Court says, his executive order stands.
Anyway, it's pretty sad to have a lawless president.
You have a former Goldman Sachs CEO who engineered the 2008 Wall Street bank bailout for the Bush administration is now throwing all of us on Main Street to the Wolves because he's with Hillary.
Why didn't Hillary release those features?
You know why?
Because she sucks up to them.
I guarantee you there would be enough information in those speeches, and there's got to be somebody that has a copy of them that's willing to come forward.
Hank Paulson is the former Treasury Secretary in the Bush administration.
I'll be voting for Hillary in the hope that she can bring Americans together to do the necessary things to strengthen our economy.
Hey, Hank, your economy's a mess.
And you didn't do the taxpayers of this country any favors with your bailout of big banks and insurance companies.
Let's see.
By the way, she never gave them.
She just went in, shook hands for 10 minutes, gives a speech, and it's just a cover for them to give her money.
And then they buy access.
Oh, happens all the time.
All right, 800-941 Sean is on number.
Gary Byrne, the Secret Service officer's brand new book, his first interview coming up right here.
His first TV interview will be with us tonight.
Let's go to our busy telephones.
Lisa is in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, the home of Wake Forest University.
What's up, Lisa?
How are you?
Hey, Sean.
What's going on?
Oh, let me tell you because he won't.
Did you just set this up?
You said it up.
This is the beautiful thing about your audience.
They are amazing and they love you and support you, and that's a good thing.
Lisa, what you can do is you can get on your telephone, you can text Hannity to 36500 that's a good one.
You're gonna be banned from the show.
N N I T Y. Okay, I certainly will.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Lisa.
Lisa, I have a question for you.
Did Linda put you up to that?
Absolutely not.
Did you talk to her ahead of time?
Did she screen your call?
Can you listen to Lisa?
Does this sound like someone to hang out with?
She's very nice.
Yeah, that's true.
She's very nice.
No, it doesn't sound like anybody you'd hang out with.
That's a good point.
I stand corrected, right, Jason?
Jason is dying chomping at the bit.
You become a conspiracy guy all of a sudden.
What's wrong with you?
Uh how about everybody just let's stop the the the lobbying for the position because nobody's gonna believe me after today.
All right, we're done.
No more.
We got you got a little mention in today.
You have one a day, I guess, for the next two weeks.
Great.
Whether I like it or not.
Oh, there's only two days left?
And voting is off.
Thank God.
We won't be wasting airtime with Linda Jumping.
Make sure everybody you have until June 30th, text Hannity to 365.
All right, uh Josh in Brick, New Jersey, listening to the all-new AM 710, W O R the Voice of New York and New Jersey.
Hi.
Hi, how are you, Sean?
Thank you for taking my call.
Yes, sir.
Uh my question to you is um you're a close supporter of Trump, and I'm also supporting Trump.
Um my question is, why has is he not going after Hillary the way um you know he took out the other uh sixteen candidates?
He did give this speech last week, which was very good, outlining the uh attacks against Hillary, but he he's not doing as much.
It's not with the same enthusiasm.
Uh what's your take on that?
I disagree.
If you go, I'm not sure what website it's on, just Google it.
Trump's campaign released a fifty-point attack of Hillary's record because the media is so in the tank for Hillary.
He backed up every point he made in that speech about how she performed favors for donors as Secretary of State, how her trade deals have been bad for the country, how she lied about her landing in Bosnia, uh favoritism for friends, and you know, it just goes chapter and verse.
Um I think they did a really good job actually backing this up.
Fifty pages.
Mm-hmm of sources.
What's what's your position on why he's not spending his own money to totally take her down?
I mean, well, I think I mean they think he will.
I mean, he spent a lot of money in the primary, just he doesn't think he has to spend what everybody else traditionally and historically spends.
Now Hillary Clinton's gonna unload 42 million dollars against him before the convention.
That's a lot of money.
And I think it does it does have an impact to some degree, but I think everything that everybody's ever wanted to say about Trump has been said.
So you think he really is being effective against Hillary, so why is it just uh um it's just bothering me why it's not being reflected that way in the you know, you speak to people, you hear it, it's like, well, what's Trump doing?
Why isn't he going after that?
Let me let me let me give you today's date.
Today's the twenty-seventh of June.
We've got July and August, and then in earnest, you know, we got the conventions coming up, July 18th.
We're gonna be in Cleveland for the week.
Uh we'll probably even be there before.
And then the week after, we're gonna be in Philly for the week.
And after the conventions, we're gonna know a lot more about the campaigns.
We're gonna lot know a lot more about their team, their choice for vice president.
I mean, Hillary uh Hillary and Elizabeth Warren, Pocahontas, were together today.
And uh, you know, Trump wears goofy hats.
Well, you know, take a uh DNA test.
She claimed when she worked at Harvard to be a minority.
She was not a Native American.
And it's an insult that she claimed that she was.
So we'll go I'm actually gonna do something this week.
I'm gonna go we're gonna go after her record.
We're gonna we're gonna give you a little lesson on Elizabeth Warren this week at some point.
All right, I'll get to that.
Uh Robbie is in Dallas.
Robbie, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Thank you, sir.
Uh John, I just wanted to I'm a World War II vet, and uh just wanted to let you know that I'm a member of a lot of veteran organizations here in Dallas, and that uh will you really support Trump?
Uh I'm glad to hear no, my father fought four years in the Pacific.
Well, I served in the Pacific, and then I had three brothers that uh served in World War II.
They uh served in Europe.
Yeah, my sister gave me on Father's Day a big poster uh framed of the ship that my father served in in World War II.
I was really glad to get it.
Well, good.
Uh I'll have a good friend that's on your it certainly it certainly beats when she gives me ties that I don't like or shirts that I'll never wear.
That's a joke inside family joke.
Anyway, go ahead.
Uh well, oh uh well, I just wanted to you wanted you to know that how strongly we we've actually support Trump.
Uh course there's a lot of other things we do, and I want to thank you for supporting the vet.
Well, listen, I want to thank you.
You're the ones that went and fought and defeated fascism, Nazism, Imperial Japan.
Uh, I think uh referring to you as the the greatest generation is true, and I think that uh, you know, if I could only be half the man my father was, I I'd be a much better person.
So well, we uh we have a lot of veterans organizations here.
We really struggle to support Trump, and uh just wanted to be sure and get that across to you.
Well, I appreciate your service to your country.
We'd live free because of you, and and God bless you, and tell all the guys I said hi, all right?
Yes, sir.
All right, thank you.
What a nice guy.
You know, those listen, my father signed up as soon as he turned eighteen.
Boom.
I mean, that's the way it worked back then.
And uh let's get to Steve in Fayetteville, North Carolina.
What's up, Steve?
How are you?
Hey, Mr. Henry, thank you for taking my call.
Yes, sir.
Uh first of all, I just wanted to say, um, I was just wondering, because I'm not sure about Mrs. Clinton's uh security clearance.
Uh from what I understand is if you're under uh investigation, your security clearance should be suspended.
If she if look, just based on what we know, the average government worker would have had their security clearance revoked and they would have lost their job.
Right.
But okay, so if she's under investigations, say she does win the presidency, how would she be able to be commander-in-chief if she doesn't if for security clearance has been suspended or revoked?
Well, it's not suspended, it's not revoked.
It's an ongoing investigation, but based on what we know, you're not allowed to mishandle classified information, and it was totally and completely mishandled.
And it was done so purposefully to avoid any congressional oversight into what she was doing.
And it was done by design because the Clintons, you know, that's the way they operate, and you're gonna hear a lot more about this in the next hour with Gary Byrne, who wrote the book Crisis of Character.
He was outside of the Oval Office for years when Bill Clinton was president.
He saw everything.
I'm sorry, I just want to say I thought once you were in under under investigation, your security currents would be suspended until you were found guilty or innocent.
Well I I I wish James Comey would get this investigation done soon.
Sure seems to be taking a long time.
And I think a lot of people are rightly speculating.
Well, what happens uh if he announces this in September?
The Democrats gonna have an opportunity to replace her.
I made this case, and then we had to go forward.
We had no choice anyone but to go for a special counsel.
She is shut down my throat fierce and chilly.
She kind of in front of everybody, and anybody that stood up and tried to say this is a bad idea because she was smashed down and a little.
Um personally, did you ever throw a lamp at your husband?
No, I did.
Did you ever throw a Bible at your husband?
No, I didn't.
Do you have a terrible campaign?
No, but I do get angry about things.
I'm not gonna deny that.
Go to the end of the line.
Okay, Why don't you go to the end of the line?
The fact is we had four dead Americans.
Was it because of a protest, or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they'd go kill some Americans?
What difference at this point does it make?
You want me to tell you what my husband did.
My husband is not the Secretary of State, I am.
So you ask my opinion, I will tell you my opinion.
I'm not going to be channeling my husband.
This woman, this little shelf-spoken pardon me for the phrase, Dowdy Woman.
Took a hold of my hand and squeezed it and said, Do you understand everything that you did?
I could have passed out at that moment.
And she held on to my hand and she said, Do you understand everything that you did?
I mean, cold chill to an at last plan.
The first time I became afraid of that woman.
I'm so sick.
I'm the standards can't be in mind now.
And I also make me a lot of better off if we actually talk to each other instead of yelling at I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic, and we should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration.
I did not have sexual relations with that woman.
Not a single time.
Don't you someday want to see a woman president of United States of America?
Well it depends upon what the meaning of the word is.
I'm just chilling in Cedar Rapids.
All right, there you have it.
You heard the voices of George Stephanopoulos, Didi Myers, Juanita Broderick, and then of course the vicious temper of the person that would like to be your next president, Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Now this is the book that everybody's been talking about, his first interview.
It's called A Crisis of Character.
A White House Secret Service Officer discloses his first hand experience with Hillary Bill and how they operate.
Let me go to the introduction.
I dreamed of becoming an elite White House Secret Service officer, a member of its uniformed division.
Nothing more and certainly nothing less.
My dream came true.
I stood guard, a pistol at my hip, outside the all Oval Office, the last barrier before anyone saw Bill Clinton.
The last barrier before Monica Lewinsky saw Bill Clinton.
Yes, I am that Secret Service officer.
I saw Monica and I saw a lot more.
I saw Hillary too.
I witnessed her obscenity-laced tirades, her shifting of blame, how she berated Vince Foster until he could stand no more, and how minor incidents involving blue gloves and botched invitations sent her into a tizzy and much more.
We welcome to the program former Presidential Secret Service Officer Gary Byrne is with us.
How are you?
I'm fine.
Thank you so much for having me.
You ready for the media onslaught, left wing media onslaught that is certainly coming your way?
I spent the whole weekend reading the book.
I have no doubt when you go on your media tour, it's gonna be vicious.
You're gonna be put on trial.
Are you ready?
Yes, I think so.
I've experienced a little bit before when this first happened when the story broke.
So um I have a little bit of experience with it, but I'm ready.
I've uh got my ducks in a row, as we say.
Yeah, well, you know, you're telling your story.
Yes.
And why don't we go to the heart what before we even get started into the facts of the story?
Why do you think this is important?
You go you do explain it, especially uh, and I'll jump to the end of the book a little bit here.
Um because this is so important to you, you actually go into great detail that you know you had to answer the same question now that you answered in 1998.
You were asked to go before Ken Starr.
Yes.
And what am I gonna do about it?
And you knew the answer, and that you have to speak up.
Why?
Yes.
Well, it at that time when I was being um investigated by Judge Starr was my fear was that if I didn't tell the truth a hundred percent once I had to testify, that they would jail me.
And they told me they did.
I mean, meant a few.
You were facing seven years in jail if you didn't tell the truth.
At least, yeah.
And and a couple times FBI agents involved in the investigation actually threatened to arrest me.
Um I came to this conclusion, Sean, that telling the truth is important.
Um protect the Constitution and uh the oath that I took to the President of the United States and the Constitution, and that one man does not supersede that.
All this happened because one man couldn't step up, the man that was the president of the United States at the time couldn't step up and be a man and say what he did, and it all would have been over.
You signed no confidentiality agreement.
So you have every right to write this book.
That's correct.
And the reasoning I'm coming out now is quote, I I want everybody to know the truth.
I want them to know how these people function.
And I want them to know about the wake of destruction of people that they leave behind them.
This is the truth.
Um, you know, I'm I I doubt him, I don't know if I'm going to convince anybody how they're gonna vote.
The most important thing about voting is as soon as you become eighteen, register and vote.
Vote your conscience and and get educated on it.
And I hope this my book, my true life story here helps people, um young people especially, understand really how they work.
At the end of the book, you said what I learned about the Clintons first hand, the hard way is very important.
It's 2016, but with Hillary Clinton running for president again, it feels uncomfortable like the 1990s again, as if America were trapped in some great cruel time machine, uh literally hurling us back to the land of Monica and Mogadishu and a thousand other Clinton era nightmares.
Fool me once, as the saying goes, your fault.
Fool me twice, the bottom line, you go on to say, my job in the nineties was to lay down my life for the president.
My obligation today is to raise my voice to help safeguard the presidency from Bill and Hillary Clinton and to remind readers like you what happened back then.
We all remember or should remember what a Clinton White House was like.
If we board that time machine for a return trip, it's our fault.
Yes, and and and that's true.
I um as we go on in the interview, I'm gonna be able to um expand a little bit more, but there's just so many examples of um for instance, um routinely in the very beginning in the early 90s, Mrs. Clinton uses the term the right wing conspiracy.
Yeah.
There's no such thing.
It's not the right-wing conspiracy, it's continuous bad behavior and bad decisions.
And even when they do to do try to do some kind of policy, something maybe good for the country, it completely falls apart because there's so many scandals going on, they can't focus on running the country.
I mean, I've I've used this analogy before, Sean.
If you took every scandal that President Bill Clinton was involved in and put it on um single spaces, you couldn't fit it on two pieces of paper.
It's incredible.
You describe her leadership style as volcanic volcanic, impulsive, enabled by sycophants, disdainful of the rules set for everyone else who hasn't changed a bit.
I uh is a hundred percent true.
I I never understood.
It didn't take long to figure out how they worked and and how they acted.
And you know, at the time um I was a member of the Secret Service Uniform Division, and I just, you know, watched what went on and I observed the way people acted around her.
And her co-workers, these people that we referred to back then as the Arkansas Mafia, friends from Arkansas, um, they were afraid of her.
They were terrified.
And at first I'm like, I don't understand that.
And by this time I had had I had been close to her, proximity-wise when I saw her lash out at somebody.
And to me it was almost comical.
I was I was like, God, I've never seen anybody so upset over something so simple.
And her her anger and rage isn't fixing anything.
It never does.
It never I don't think anger or rage works for anybody.
No.
You said, though, portrayed as the long-suffering spouse of an unfaithful husband whose infidelities I personally observed and knew to be true, the Hillary Clinton I saw was anything but a sympathetic victim.
Now those loyal to her kept coming back for these volcanic eruptions of hers.
I witnessed firsthand the Clinton's personal and professional dysfunction.
So consumed were they by scandals, so intent on destroying their real or imagined enemies, governing was an afterthought.
Was why don't you go into describing this temper that you're describing?
So um there's many examples of that.
Um the the one that uh always comes to mind is um I refer to as the blue glove incident.
Right.
And um so what what happened is is that a group of people were coming in to uh visit with the president and his senior staff.
And you said he was very charming to people.
He would always want to give them extra time.
He was always accommodating to anybody that came by.
Yes, a hundred percent.
He could um he was incredibly charming.
Um I actually had the opportunity to introduce some family members to him one time.
And my my father has for five minutes couldn't open his mouth.
I mean it was just incredible.
And um so anyway, uh Mrs. Clinton's anger uh at this time uh these visitors were coming in and through a a series of errors with the uniform division, as these guests were coming in, there was there was about um thirty to forty, I think, guests, and they were representative members of the um gang and lesbian coalition that helped get President Clinton elected elected the first time.
And so um under the promise that he would immediately um allow gays in the military.
And things were different back then, as you well remember, I'm sure, you know.
And then it became uh compromise of don't ask, don't tell.
Right, and they were furious about that.
So they're so the person bringing them in was um former Congressman Barney Frank.
So I'm actually posted at the overall oval office and I get a phone call from a friend of mine and he described to me, he said, Heads up, we just had an incident, and and what he described to me was as the guests were coming in, um the officers that were running the mill detectors, they were putting on these blue gloves that we're required to wear.
When Braun Barney Frank saw them putting the gloves on, he said, Why are you putting those gloves on, officer?
And the one guy, um I refer to him in the book as crusty, he's this great old uh Marine from Vietnam era.
Um he put the gloves on, he looked the congressman right in the eye and goes, Why do you think?
Well what Barney Frank didn't know was the list that we had of who was coming in, it actually said on the top, HIV positive representatives.
Now that we all knew that you can't get HIV that way, but we still have to wear the gloves because we're protecting ourselves from other stuff.
Right.
So that was standard operating procedure.
It was, absolutely.
So um when they got in, they took advantage of what happened there and they berated the staff and it got up to Mrs. Clinton and she went off the deep end.
And I describe it in the book as on a scale of one to ten, this was about a one, considering what goes on around the world and uh what the presidency is responsible for.
She uh so I get a heads up phone call from an officer at on the east side of the White House said, Heads up, here comes Mrs. Clinton and she's bad.
So um she came over, she went into the Oval Office and she berated the president for about forty minutes.
It's so loud that the agent and I that were posted outside the Oval Office um actually closed a doorway that blocked off the Roosevelt room and some outer hallways because sh that she was so loud.
And she burr she berated the president, she blamed everything on us.
She called us a bunch of um, yeah.
Yeah.
Don't worry, you can't say it on radio.
I know what you're gonna say.
She caught us a bunch of rear ends and um and and uh used a lot of foul language and it was it it got so bad that at one point the agent looked at me and realized he said the president is actually defending you guys.
And it was kind of a comical moment.
I'm like, oh my God, the president's defending us.
She wanted to get rid of you because she said, Oh, they're loyal to George Herbert Walker Bush, they were here with him, and they're disloyal to us, they have been from day one.
Sure.
They did have a weird paranoia about the the the Bush administration.
They actually replaced the phone system because they thought they had it tapped.
Uh almost a brand new phone system.
Wow when they first got there.
And it was expensive and they didn't have a a way to pay for it at first.
Yeah.
Well, the you talk at length uh how they became, you know, spending a lot of money was a big issue and no and you had to draw straws to give her the bad news.
Tell us about you start chapter one, the vase.
Yes.
So um I come in to work one morning, I'm assigned to the the Oval Office.
That's my permanent post at the time.
And I come in earlier, I get my workout in, and um as I'm heading over, I run into a couple of the the people that work in the mansion.
Um and they said, Oh, wait till you get in there and hear what happened.
So I'm like, Oh, okay.
So um I went over to the mansion to talk to my buddy um who worked in the on the mansion floor, and um I said, Hey, what's going on?
I just saw um George and and um and you know so and so that uh they said something happened.
They said, Oh, the that the president of the first lady had had this huge fight last night and that it was so loud that the the the the people that work in the mansion that take care of the first family, like they backed away downstairs and it was loud, and then there was a a loud noise, like a a crashing sound.
And when it was up went up to be investigated, um there was a broken vase on the floor.
And you know, nothing at the window.
It was across the hall from where it was normally placed.
Right.
It wasn't like it didn't fall over.
No, no, no.
It was thrown.
Right.
That's that it appears to be and the next morning he had a black eye.
He yeah.
The next time I saw him, he had a black eye.
Yeah, I I don't you know, I I d wasn't there.
So I don't know if he hit her, if she hit him.
I don't know if she threw the vase at him.
I don't know how he got the black eye.
But I'm gonna tell you this, the gardener didn't give it to him.
Nobody in the Secret Service hit him.
And so when he came down that that next morning, he you know, you could see they were trying to hide a black mark with makeup and stuff.
Right.
It didn't it didn't work.
And you you even asked, oh, and they said it's allergies and the answer was allergies in one eye, not two.
Right.
Right.
And then I yeah, exactly.
We uh we're joined by Gary Byrne.
We have a lot of time, another hour with Gary, he's gonna stay with us.
His brand new book, it's making a lot of headlines, his first interview.
It's called A Crisis of Character, a White House Secret Service Officer discloses his first hand experience with Hillary Bill and how they operate.
You can get the book at Amazon.com.
We have it on our website, Hannity.com, and also in bookstores everywhere starting tomorrow.
We continue.
We're joined in studio today.
His first interview, Gary Byrne.
He has a brand new book.
It's gotten a lot of press, A Crisis of Character.
A White House Secret Service Officer discloses first hand his experience with Hillary, Bill, and how they operate.
In your introduction, you referred to witnessing how Hillary berated Vince Foster until he could stand no more.
And you go into more detail in the book, and you mostly saw Vince Foster in the hallways and and he and Mrs. Clinton and a lawyer, you know, close friends, confidants, I guess.
Words circulated that she berated him mercilessly.
Uh and the first time you saw Foster, you know, you figured he wouldn't last a year.
He was uncomfortable, unhappy there.
And you knew what it was like to be yelled at by superiors.
But Mrs. Clinton never hesitated to launch a tirade.
And yet her staffers never dared say, I don't have to take this.
We'll say that.
They reminded me of battered wives, too loyal, too unwilling to acknowledge, they'd never assuage her.
And then they had no one to blame but themselves and they could never admit it.
Now, you really feel that this pressed him or pushed him.
I I think I think he came with a lot of baggage.
Uh I didn't know I like to be clear on this.
It's not like Vince and I were friends.
I used to see Mr. Foster around the West Thing like I did to everybody else.
But um I do know that about him being berated, and I understand he had a high pressure job.
But when I when I described to you how uncomfortable this this man looked, I mean he didn't look comfortable in his own skin.
He wanted nothing to do with the Washington, D.C. and the pressure that it brought.
And um when the story that when I was actually working the day, he took his own life and they found him in Fort Marcy Park.
And um when the message came out, I I will tell you I was sad that it happened, but I was not stunned.
I really wasn't.
Because you saw this guy under pressure, she was constantly berating them and and brow beating him.
Sure.
When when the staff when you hear the the staff that worked in the w in the White House in the West Wing talking about how bad she berated Vince Foster as opposed to how bad she berated anybody else, that's pretty significant.
And and these are things, Sean, that I swore, you know, years ago, up until recently, I was I was gonna take all this to my grave because I said I would never talk about these things.
But clearly somewhere, and I'm very uncomfortable about talking about it, but it's important for people to know the truth.
Somewhere in the last year and a half, I've crossed through a f threshold and I've changed my mind, obviously.
Um and and it is what it is, there's no going back.
So your purpose is really to warn the American people she is not as she seems.
No.
In other words, uh the the temperament question has come up a lot in this campaign as it relates to Donald Trump.
Sure.
You're describing somebody that does not have the temperament to be president in any way, shape, matter, or form, and that she hides it and she puts on a public persona and a private persona.
Yes.
And privately she berates staff, berates even Secret Service officers like yourself.
That's correct.
Uh says F F off to them.
Yes.
Uh tells them to go to hell.
Yes.
You tell two specific instances, talk about that.
Sure.
So the one that always bothered me the most.
And um so that we had a uniform division officer who had been on the job a short period of time.
Nice guy, uh top of the line type person.
He had been in the military.
And he actually had been wounded in Somalia.
Now he was wounded in Somalia before what we would call today the Black Hawk down.
Black Hawk down, yeah.
Right.
So he was he was actually shot by a sniper, and he'd received the Purple Heart.
Now, when you're working at the White House in the Uniform Division, people don't know that you're have been in the military or you you have won an award, but they do know you're a police officer, you're wearing a uniform, like the uniform division officers do.
And he was walking down the West Colonnade and he said, Good morning, first lady, and sh she looked at him and said, Go F yourself.
And so he couldn't believe it.
And he came back to the um to the uh break room and he was discussing it, and another officer who had something similar happened to him, they started discussing it, and um the sergeant overheard him and um started pushing it up the chain of command.
It's not that it's not that it hadn't happened before.
It's just that the way it happened with this guy, when it got up the chain of command and and the senior agents found out who this guy was, they felt bad about it.
But there but there was a phoniness about her.
For example, she would she would treat you one way when nobody was looking.
Right.
And she would berate you.
Right.
And then when guests were around, she'd put her hand on your shoulder and say, Oh, this is my favorite agent.
Yeah.
And then for example, you described the relationship with her husband.
If the cameras came in, oh, they were lovey dovey, they were the closest couple in the world, but in reality they were anything but that's that's what I experienced.
That's what I saw.
Um I saw a lot of examples of the um normal uh Hillary, which is distant and cold, to here comes a camera or here comes somebody that she needs to impress, say uh you know, somebody who donates money or somebody who's helping them, and immediately she switched flips a switch.
I've seen it many a time.
Everybody in the Secret Service that walked over worked around them saw it, Sean.
The difference is they're not coming forward.
And I understand why they're they're not, but clear like I said before, clearly I've crossed some threshold and things have changed.
But Bill was different.
Bill d when she wanted all of you guys fired, he defended.
He did.
He under And you you heard this conversation.
You're right outside the door.
Everybody heard it.
Everybody heard it.
Yeah.
And you heard them fight constantly.
Uh not constantly, wouldn't we A lot.
Yes.
A lot of Yes, absolutely.
And it's not just what I heard.
You know, there's a I know as um people read this book, you might get the impression that the people in the Secret Service, the agents and officers of a bunch of, you know, old ladies sitting around telling stories.
When when I push if you and I are working together, Sean, and I'm and I'm relieved and you're relieving me, I have to tell you what's going on.
And that's how this stuff we find out about this stuff.
So the fact that the way she behaved the night before in the holding room at a at a dinner, I would hear the next day.
Hey, they sleep in the same room?
I have no idea.
Nobody would know that.
Uh I I certainly don't.
You you wouldn't know it based on where your position was.
Well I did I'm sorry.
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, I did have the opportunity.
One of because of the position I had uh outside the Oval Office, my top secret security clearance had some things added to it, and it also gave me the opportunity to do escorts.
So let's say you're the the guy they hired to come in and fix the floors.
Um I would escort you on a weekend while the first family wasn't there up in the living course.
Now I've been up there, right.
But I didn't see anything that was out of the ordinary.
Um you know, it looked like it's a beautiful place to live in, it looked like a a normal home to me.
Let's talk about the women.
And it wasn't just Monica.
Yeah.
And Monica was not as slick as ever you everybody knew she was out to to hook up with the president.
Sure, sure.
She kind of left a trail of breadcombs.
You know, it was you had to be pretty switched off not to understand why she was asking you, you know, where the president is or how the your day's going and uh did he leave the mansion yet?
And she was purposely trying to place herself in his path.
And uh and that's what brought me brought her to my attention and why eventually uh after a short period of time I tried to get her removed and it it worked for a short period of time, but then it didn't.
Bill Clinton personally got her the pass to come back.
That's what I believe, absolutely.
I mean, how else do you get it?
I mean, this is a big deal.
That means you have full access for the most part, except for the Oval Office.
The blue you have that blue pass, you have access to the to the West Wing to the ground floor of the mansion.
Right.
Yeah, it's a good one.
That's a big deal.
No.
But the other thing that that s really shocked me, you said there's many women involved here.
I mean you talked about Eleanor uh Mondale.
Right.
Uh former vice presidential uh candidate Mond uh former presidential candidate Mondale's daughter caught, I think it was in the blue room.
Uh map room.
The map room on the on the table making out with Bill.
Right, right.
And they were in front of the table, but yeah.
And there were many others.
How many others?
So I don't really know what the count is.
Best estimate.
Yeah, I'm aware of easily three to four.
Um These were regular people that he would see that you knew he was having shenanigans with.
Well, not not r regular, but I know that he had kind contact with them and also some of them were regular because they were um pe people that traveled with him or met him on the road when he would go on the road.
And so the agents knew that they were meeting her, and he was meeting them.
Absolutely.
Um there there I heard quite a few stories of from the agents about they actually when I was trying to intervene with uh Monica and and before I kind of put two and two together that it was really happening that they were having this affair, that um the one of the agents said to me, Gary, stay out of this.
You don't know what happens on the road.
I heard that a many times.
Gary, you don't know what's going on on the road.
You're not with us all the time.
And you don't you know so they're trying to look out for you?
That was uh heads up don't get yourself in trouble.
Yes.
Listen, these guys may be mad at me now for talking, but I had a great working rapport with those agents and especially Mark.
Well let me ask you about that.
Because we I read some reports that some of these guys are mad at you, but have others contacted you and said, Hey, thank you.
Yeah, I'm getting a lot of support from my uniform division brothers and sisters.
Right.
Um But the agents are well, there might have been a little bit of competitiveness between the agents and the officers.
Yeah, there's always been a rift between the agents and officers.
They actually run the Secret Service.
And um this the individual people that I work with are great, but the Secret Service mentality, the way they manage their people is horrendous.
It's it's it's terrible.
And I and I don't this isn't not blaming the Clinton administration.
This was going on way before that.
But the Secret Service Management style is tough.
It's uh it's do as I say, not as I do sometimes, and they work you into the ground.
They're using the same procedures they've used for seventy years, and the same manpower statistics with so much more work to do than there used to be.
Who got the Bible thrown at his head?
So this agent that I worked with, um I was working with them on post one day, and I had heard the story um from somebody else, and I but I didn't know who it was, and I turned to this guy and I said, Hey, did you hear the story about one of you guys get a Bible thrown at you?
And he looked at me and he goes, Yeah, it was me.
And as soon as he told me, and he got hit.
I mean, they were on the lim in the limousine on the south grounds of the White House.
And I don't know what she was mi pissed off about.
Sorry.
That's fine.
I say it all the time.
Mad about.
But um she was pissed off.
Go ahead.
She had a Bible in her hand and she lunged forward and hit him in the back of the head with it.
Now he got out of the you know, opened the door and he turned around and he made it very clear to her that that was not tolerable and it wasn't gonna happen again.
And you even described in the book, you you guys, if the first family is struggling to pick up luggage, you are not as protocol dictates, you're not allowed to reach down and help them.
Keep your hands free.
You gotta have your hands free.
That's free.
Right.
I mean, I've carried a weapon all my adult life.
Sure.
You're not gonna be able to get to your weapon if you're picking up luggage.
That's right.
And and and you're right about that.
And the other thing, it just more importantly when it comes to protect these, is you've got to get your hands on them to get them moving.
You gotta move them away from the danger.
Right.
And that's really the agent's primary job.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
And and s and that's what you're hired for.
And if you're willing to take a bullet and you're willing to go down and give up your life for these people.
Yes.
That's why, you know, to be treated so horribly.
Go to go to hell, F off, Bible's thrown, total dismissal.
Yeah.
She really treated the officers and agents like crap.
Yeah, she did.
And I think every day though.
This was a regular unless somebody was around, it was I hate why do you think she hated agents that are assigned to protect her life so much?
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
You know, I'm no psychologist, but you know, I'm an expert on observation.
So I'm gonna just say what I think here.
And and over over these years, I just think she she has an issue with men, and my whole thing with her and and even her husband to a certain extent, uh the the Clinton machine, as I call it, they don't like law enforcement and they don't really like the military.
I'm sorry.
I and I have, you know, um opinions and stories of why I believe that, but they just don't seem to like them.
And uh they'll say uh obviously they say that you know how much they support the military, but let's look at w the incidents that have happened, and they weren't supporting them.
And the same with law enforcement.
Um by the way, there was a distinct difference.
You described the time that you had in the White House with the Bushes and they were lovely people.
And but you're not you're not speaking politically here.
I don't even know.
Um I mean you don't want her to be elected president, so I assume that means you're gonna vote for Donald Trump.
But I'm not gonna talk about who I'm gonna vote for yet.
But um But the Bushes were nice people, genuinely nice people.
Uh they're I respected the officers and agents and the hard work.
Sense of humor, great kind people.
And you know, in hindsight, when I think about it now, Sean, it kind of set me up for a huge shock when we changed administrations and the Clintons end up being the way they are.
And because the Bushes were like family.
Did Bill ever come out of the Oval Office say, guys, I'm really sorry.
You know, I'm I'm sorry you had to hear that.
And no.
No.
But but one time uh along those lines, Sean, um he was um he was in a meeting.
The president was in the meeting in the Roosevelt room, and he was crossing back over to the Oval Office.
And whatever they were discussing in the meeting was pretty hot and contentious and and uh he was upset about something.
And as he walked out, he was berating somebody about getting something done.
And it clearly, you know, you could tell that who somebody dropped the ball, whatever.
As he was walking back in the Oval Office, he started screaming at this or uh raising his voice at this one uh this um man and this woman whose job it was to do whatever it was.
So um as he's yelling at them, he walks right by me and the agent posted there and the door was already open for him.
And as he walks in, he turns around and they said something to him, and he turned around and screamed at me, close that you know, effing door.
And um and I just kind of looked at him, I looked at the agent, we kind of smirked at each other and and I stepped in and grabbed the door and I pulled it shut.
So um a little while later, he comes out into the um Stuart's little kitchen area to get himself a soda.
Right.
And I walked back just because I heard a noise, the outer door was open.
I walked back to check, and it was him and uh he looked over, he said, How are you doing today, young man?
How's it going?
I said, Good sir, how are you?
You know, and he didn't apologize, but he broke the way of saying that's the way I interpreted it.
And and he was very friendly and he was very nice, and once in a while he would ask you a personal question, you know, your family, that kind of thing.
It was it was not always horrendous.
All right, news roundup information overload hour here on the Sean Hannity Show.
Uh we have Senator Mike Lee's gonna stop by in studio coming up at the bottom of this half hour.
We continue with Secret Service Officer Gary Byrne.
He's got a brand new book out.
It's made a lot of news.
It's called A Crisis of Character.
White House Secret Service Officer discloses his first hand experience with Hillary Bill and how they operate.
Let me go back to the the women part of it.
You knew things were going on.
Then there was the map room incident with Eleanor Mondale.
You know for a fact that there were other women as well that we don't know whose names they are, and you're not disclosing them.
No.
And you even at one point hid evidence for Bill Clinton.
Sure.
Did you know you were breaking the law doing that?
Well, it technically wasn't Evans because I didn't know there was a vest there wasn't an investigation on going on or that.
But yes, there was um there was uh an incident, uh a couple of incidences where the Navy Stewart um brought to my attention that he had found some uh hand towels, white hand towels that were in one case stained with lipstick and in another case stained with um men's fluids, what appeared to be.
Oh, good grief.
Um this is the president.
This is the oval office.
Reagan wouldn't take his jacket off in that office for crying out loud.
I mean, he wouldn't walk across the seal.
Yeah.
So when I mentioned earlier that I've gone through some kind of threshold, you there's a good example of what pushed me through it a little bit.
It's just bizarre.
So um the steward was described.
So you knew who's you knew who it was.
Listen, any adult male knows what we were looking at.
Right.
And the my fear was that you know the only people that handle that stuff were the Navy stewards downstairs that lost they're all laughing in there.
I that's that's you know it stop.
This crew's gotta that's my crew.
They're very bad people.
They want the salacious details.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They uh they they uh they washed the the towels.
They know would know these guys are Navy men, they know what they would be looking at.
And at this point I was trying to protect from any more rumors.
So I told Nelvis I I found the plastic bag out of the trash can liner.
I told Nelson to throw them in the bag, and I destroyed them.
Right.
And then of course, sometime later when the story broke, uh um broke by Matt Drudge, and then I heard about it on the uh Howard Stern show.
Right.
And uh I knew right then, I mean, the the I my stomach almost flipped out of my body.
I was so terrified because I connected the dots instantly.
You know, that story's true, it's out, they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna come after us.
You know, it's just gotta be surreal.
You you know, here you wanted to do this job your whole life.
I did.
And the next thing you know, you're throwing out soiled towels of the president with his mistress.
Yeah.
And uh and mistress is and in the case of of the intern, by this time or at some point she becomes a government employee, so now she's a government paid mistress.
It was bizarre when you think about it in hindsight, it's just crazy.
You know, well, I mean, it's certainly reckless on uh uh for a whole variety of reasons here.
Correct.
Um Let me ask you this question.
You said during the shutdown, when the when Monica was visiting and she gained access that she wanted so badly, were you there at that point?
You were outside the door.
I was.
So when all this went on, and she was there a lot more than we knew.
Yeah, sure.
The um what you're describing is uh and the shutdown was actually kind of a uh a windfall for Monica.
Because the way it works is the only essential people could come in now.
So the only essential people that were allowed to come in and help President Clinton was one assistant, which would have been Betty Curry.
Right.
And then Leon Panetta, and he could have a couple interns.
And she ended up being one of the interns.
And in hindsight, it was like it's almost comical.
Right.
I mean, you can't write this.
And so that's when she gets so during this time, these these interns, they were across from the Oval Office in the Roosevelt room, and that's where they were kind of working out of.
And when they needed something done, you know, they would go and find them there and then ask them to do it.
And if Hillary came by during any of this, you were in you were supposed to refuse Hillary entry?
No, you you can't refuse the first lady entry, but we certainly were paying attention to her movements.
When you're a protectee of the Secret Services, and they would talk to you saying, Watch out she's on the war path that you would know before she came down.
Right.
They would use her call sign, they'd say, you know, Evergreen moving, uh Evergreen moving.
Well, you already know she's in the mansion, so she's leaving the private living quarters.
Right.
And then you would, you know, once she hit the ground floor, if they said Hillary uh West Wing, you know she was headed that way.
Wasn't the president at all embarrassed when he got caught with any of these women or Elinor Mondale or for example, you didn't you see them making out on the Oval Office desk?
Uh no, I saw Ellen Rmondell and the President uh making out in the map room.
And um I mean it was like full on it was Yes, they were like two high school seniors um lip locked, you know, h hugging each other, and what happened was is the uh one of the one of the house men uh excuse me, uh Navy Stewarts went to go into the room to deliver a clean shirt to the president.
He had a shirt in his hand.
And as he started towards the door, you know, he said hi to us.
I just happened to be standing there on my way back to my post and he opened the door, but he was looking at us, and there they were.
But everybody knew how did he not think this was gonna come out?
Everybody knew.
You don't think he cared.
I don't think he cared that people knew because he was used to being covered.
He was used to being protected, he was used to getting away with it.
So it was expected that your job is you're gonna be quiet about this.
I think in hindsight, I think that everything that I heard from Arkansas from the troopers and sheriffs down there was true.
And they one officer actually told you that everything you hear about them is true and worse.
Yes.
And when he did, I'm telling you, it was like he he was talking looking right through me.
Like he it was a significant I mean I only knew this guy for a couple of minutes, and when he told me that, I felt like it was somebody telling me something, you know, Gary, here's some good investment advice for your life.
You know what I mean?
He was serious and he meant it.
Yeah.
And um so yeah, it was very bizarre time, Sean.
Uh you talk in the book, for example, you we had become work friends.
He knew that by serving the president even a single cup of tea uh to ease his mind, he served his nation, whatever the president needed, whenever he needed it.
And you're talking about the White House uh what's the position?
So the steward.
Yeah.
I'm probably describing Nelvis there, but there were quite a few stewards.
Yeah, there were qu quite a few stewards.
They have a great history.
They're traditionally they were actually all f Filipino men.
Yeah.
And uh it was they have a great uh story behind that.
So Yeah, I mean uh you're describing a surreal.
Yeah.
Tell us about the end of your relationship with him.
He's getting ready to, you know, when you were leaving.
So s uh leaving uh Nelvis?
No, no, no.
Leaving the you know, for example you spent you left job, right?
Right.
So with the president.
So um sometime before the the story broke, um I had basically had enough of what was going on, and uh and I I I didn't know what was coming, but I just I was tired of seeing some of the stuff that was going on.
And it was time for me to move on.
So I was trying to get into a position in the Secret Service Uniform Division tour section, and they do all the tours for the public and for the first family and and events if you've ever been to the White House for an event, you the uniform division people s uh screen you in and out and and um so anyway, I wanted to go to tours uh because I had had enough of what was going on at the Oval Office.
Yeah.
And then um and then eventually I left Tours and went out to the training center um to to get away from it.
And then of course when the um when the story broke, all those relationships with those people were under huge strain because everybody was terrified about testifying.
And and so you didn't want to do it.
No, I did not.
I wanted nothing to do with it because I knew that I was gonna have to talk about stuff that I mean, it sounds silly saying it now because I'm I'm coming out with all this.
But it was really nobody's business.
And I mean that as far as it could all been stopped by the president coming forward and and manning up and doing the right thing.
And saying, yes, this did happen.
Um here's the steps we're gonna take so it never happens again, and I'm sorry, and get on with running the government instead of that in huge debacle with Congress.
It was incredible.
Yeah.
You were even threatened at one point that somebody would uh arrest you in front of your pregnant wife.
Yes, the secret uh the excuse me, the FBI agent that was um involved in uh one particular day when I was being deposed at the at Judge Starr's um office, temporary office, and uh they were trying to get me riled up and they did.
And um you know, it was a little embarrassing that I let them get me riled up, but you know, you can only uh when you threaten them s you know, talk about somebody's spouse with your first kid, it's uh That's a little nutty.
It was over the top, and he got what he wanted, the reaction, and I gave him one.
When we hear the stories and we go over for example, the the secret server uh the secret server email thing of of Hillary when we hear that and you discuss a little bit in the book about Benghazi and some of the other current events, but that fits the character.
Absolutely.
It falls right into place.
It's the same it's the same um mentality or or or or actions that I that I saw the whole time I was there.
I, Hillary Clinton, am not actually I don't have to follow procedure.
You do what I want when I do it.
Do as I say, not as I do.
You say all of this was such a distraction to to such a big level that governing was last on their list.
Yeah, that's exactly the way he appeared.
And and this is somebody who watched close by the you know, w when all your staff when George Stephanopoulos and Ram Emanuel and these guys are doing nothing but putting out scandals and trying to fix stuff and twist it.
But Chris, they must have been exhausted when you think of all the scandals.
You even talked about um uh Leon Panetta and Dick Morris huddling uh I'm sorry, uh Leon Panetta was was the target of Hillary and Dick Morris discussing how to get rid of him as the chief of staff.
Well, I'm I'm not uh I'm not sure if um if they were actually trying to get rid of him, but what they were doing is they were they were meeting with Dick Morris at night.
Now we would see Dick Morris come in usually around ten o'clock at night.
We'd get a phone call from the Southwest Gate, you know, and the guy'd say, hey Gary Morris is here, and he'd come up and he always looked like he was lost in the West Wing.
He'd come through the West Side, and then if the president wasn't in the Oval Office, we would um you know, we would give him directions to walk to the next office or get him over the mansion.
And then now of course I used we used to say Was he closer to Hillary or to Bill?
Well, uh he was closer to Hillary.
She apparently was his friend.
And um he was uh, you know, back then a Republican operative or he was teaching them what he had kind of claims he invented was you know, triangulation.
Triangulation, right?
Triangulation.
And um so now of course we don't know what's going on, but when I read Leon Panetta's book and he talked about this, it fell right into place.
Right.
We we used to see Dick Morris coming in all the time.
I mean, we never said anything to anybody.
That's not our job.
Um but um it had to be a cool job though for you.
I was thinking about this as I was reading about your life and background.
I mean, every day you're seeing big names coming in and I never wanted to leave.
And of course that changed when this bizarre stuff happened.
Um I would you know, in hindsight, um if that hadn't happened, they would have had to take me out of there in a wheelchair and with a crowbar.
What did you think about Clinton when you knew he was lying to the nation?
Uh I was embarrassed.
I was disgraced and I was afraid because I was afraid I mean, as far as the the um relationship with the intern went, I was afraid I knew it would come back to us.
You knew it would.
You know, it would come out.
There was just too many people that knew it.
You know, one of the the one of the things that saved us, and I talk about this in the book, was that Linda Tripp did the right thing.
Yeah.
Linda Tripp did the right thing.
By the way, Linda Tripp and and Monica wouldn't have met but for you pushing and forcing the issue of getting Monica out of there.
Right.
Which didn't last too long, but long enough for her to meet Linda.
Yeah, I I believe that's correct.
When you sh she went over there.
So um but um yeah, so um Linda Tripp, um, excuse me, um yeah, Linda Tripp by encouraging Monica to keep the dress and then getting hold of it, that was evidence.
Right.
And if that wasn't there, it would have just been our word against his and the ideal that you can go in there I mean, maybe the the president and Mrs. Clinton and high up government people can get away with answering under oath of I don't remember, I don't recall, but somebody in the Secret Service is not gonna get away with that.
One of the things I've been to the Oval Office maybe four times.
I don't uh you would have been gone by then.
Yeah.
Um but I remember the first time I walked in there, it was like a surreal experience.
Yeah.
You don't really feel like it seems like everything is in slow motion.
It never goes away that feeling.
I r because I'm I I almost felt like wait a minute, this isn't really the president.
Yeah.
This must be a double.
Yeah, no.
That's Did anyone ever tell you that before?
Yes.
Yes, and I've experienced it myself where it's almost like one one evening I actually had the opportunity to introduce my parents and and some family friends to President Clinton.
Right.
And in the we were taking a tour and he was coming back and uh from the east side, he was doing some public service announcements, and the agents said, Hey, we're bringing him over, just have your family stand here, you know.
And he came up in it and talked to them and they were just floored, and it was great.
And it was a great experience.
And it's one of those things when I talk about having a hard time coming out and whatever pushed me forward to do this.
That was one of those experiences where I felt you know, I certainly feel like the word betrayed comes in there, but clearly uh I think it's more important for the American people to know the truth about these people.
And you're ready for what's coming your way after this interview.
I am.
And you don't care.
You already thought that through.
I care, but but you know, when you do the kind of work that I've done and people that do what I do, you you know you look at your goal and you look what's important, and then you you do you take the actions you have to do.
You think the country needs to know this before they go and vote in November.
I do.
I absolutely do.
So the person that we know in Hillary Clinton is a phony.
It is a it is a mirage, it's not real.
No, it it is.
It's a it's a carefully manufactured political robot, basically.
It's not even cas casually carefully manufactured.
If you really pay attention and you're not completely um a Democrat or or a a Clinton uh follower, you see this these things I'm talking about.
You know it's true.
You see the ages.
You've you've heard these stories.
And if somebody that does what I did and is taking the risk, you know, I'm not taking this risk for any other reason but the truth.
Uh you know, by the time this is all over with, who knows what's gonna be uh left to me, so to speak.
So um but I think it's important.
People need to know this.
And um, you know, i i if what I've done i i is really not right, well then I'll deal with that someday when I'm judged by you know, uh in heaven.
So well, the book is phenomenal.
I couldn't put it down, honestly.
I I opened it up this weekend and I'm like half asleep, but I'm still reading it.
You know, you when you're fighting sleep when you're reading a book you really like.
We wrote some of it like that.
Yeah.
Uh Crisis of Character is the name of the book.
A White House Secret Service officer discloses his first hand experience with Hillary Bill and how they operate.
He'll join us on Hannity tonight at ten.
The book is available on Amazon.com, Hannity.com, and as of uh today or tomorrow, tomorrow the latest, uh, in bookstores all around the country.
Gary, uh number one, thank you for your service.
Thank you.
Uh you are one of the guys that makes the country great.
Thank you.
And uh you served your country with real honor and distinction, and I think what you're doing here is a public service, although the Hillary people I'm sure won't view it that way.
Um anyway, thanks so much for being with us.
Look forward to seeing you tonight.
Thank you for having me.
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When we come back, Senator Mike Lee is with us as we continue.
By the way, he just released a paperback version of his uh book, Our Lost Constitution, The willful subversion of America's founding document.
And uh welcome, sir.
How are you?
Doing great, Sean.
Thank you very much.
Um you know what?
Were you surprised when Donald Trump put your brother's name on his list of potential Supreme Court nominees?
I was very pleased when he put my brother's name on it, and and I was pleased at the list as a whole.
I mean, I I love that list not just because of my brother's name, although he is particularly awesome.
But uh every name on that list uh uh was a great one.
And this is probably the best Supreme Court list I've ever seen put forward uh by a Republican presidential candidate.
I am angry that some Republicans like Paul Ryan and Lindsey Graham basically are seem to be doing everything they can do to sabotage Donald Trump's chances.
Am I wrong?
Well, look, I I I do think we need to focus as a party on finding a path toward coming together.
I understand that there are differences of opinion within the party, but we've got to find ways to uh reconcile those and to move forward.
Um I don't want to see uh President Hillary Clinton sworn into office in January.
Well, I don't want to see it either.
And I what I don't understand is the very tepid, timid res uh support from people in Washington, and I'm pretty pissed off about it because you know Donald Trump was the one that was pressured to you know, he's the only guy in the first debate that wouldn't raise his hand and with the pledge of loyalty.
And then the full brunt of every Republican came down on him.
If you're gonna run, you've got a pledge, you'll support the eventual winner.
And now he wins, and now people like well, Governor Bush and others, Lindsey Graham, now they're not standing by their promise.
Why is that?
I'm not sure.
You know, I'm always careful not to speak for anybody else, uh including another office holder.
So they'll have to answer that on their own.
I know that there happened some concerns expressed by some Republicans I've heard from.
They're not sure uh uh how uh uh Donald Trump would end up uh behaving under certain circumstances, whether he might end up being an authoritarian, somebody who would wield executive orders too liberally.
There was an article in Bloomberg today uh speculating about some of those things.
And so I think this is an opportunity for Mr. Trump to come out and why did you say he scares you to death?
Um you know, uh I had uh at the time I made that comment, I have been campaigning with my friend Ted Cruz for a number of weeks.
And uh at the time that happened, uh Tom That statement had been made.
He'd been making a number of statements about my friend Ted that uh I found concerning.
And so uh I interviewed both of them at the time, and they were both going at each other pretty hard.
And you know, for example, here's I've interviewed Trump as much as anybody, and here's what uh I think his agenda is.
All right, he named his Supreme Court justices.
That's there.
He's been very clear about energy independence.
That means coal and fracking and drilling and nuclear and new technology.
I've asked him probably fifty times.
He's very clear about getting rid of Obamacare, leaning towards health savings accounts.
He even likes the Penny plan, which I pushed for years and and has talked at length about the need to balance a budget, to fix the VA, uh to build up our military as a deterrence, to build the wall, uh to not let in refugees from countries if we can vet people.
That seems like a pretty conservative Mike Lee kind of agenda.
Sure.
And there's a whole lot more in there that uh that I that I like than I'm ever going to find out of Hillary Clinton, and that's one of the reasons why I maintain we've got to make sure that she's not our president.
And uh I I think there is a path forward here in which uh Mr. Trump can rally a lot more people behind him if he embraces uh a conservative reform agenda uh based on uh the structural protections of the Constitution.
If he becomes an outspoken advocate for the separation of powers.
He talked about that at length in his speech last week.
Were you happy with his remarks?
Yeah, I I I'm happy that he seems to be talking more in that direction.
The more of that we can hear from him, I think the better off he's gonna be.
Because, you know, as a as I explained in my book, our lost constitution, I think the country has drifted substantially over the last eighty years away from these twin uh fundamental protections in the Constitution.
Federalism that tells us to govern locally, and separation of powers, which tells us that you know Congress is supposed to make the law, the President is supposed to enforce the law.
Well, that's what the Supreme Court ruled last week on the issue of Obama's illegal, unconstitutional executive uh amnesty, which by the way, sh just like Obamacare, I Don't think either one of those issues should have even made it to the courts.
I think Republicans being timid, they were unwilling to use the power in the purse of in both instances, which they would have had the ability to to dismantle parts of Obamacare, which would have rendered it impotent.
They would have had the ability to defund the Department of Homeland Security like they promised, and then they passed the Cromnibus bill.
Don't you think that's led to the rise of people like Trump?
Uh yes, yes, I do.
And in fact, uh uh the the arguments you're making that uh lead me to believe you must have been reading our lost constitution, because uh these are uh very similar to the arguments I make in my book, which are that uh even though it's great when the Supreme Court is able to step in from time to time and say, no,
the president overstepped here or there, i most of the time it shouldn't get that far, and most of the time when the court does that, for every one instance where the court steps in, there might be a hundred that don't get challenged or that for one reason or another uh have some jurisdictional problem such that they can't make it all the way to the Supreme Court.
Uh Congress has got to start taking the Constitution seriously enough so that Congress itself uh addresses constitutional.
Well, Congress has ceded their power, haven't they?
Yes.
Over the course of the last eighty years, as I explain in my book, Congress has delegated the lawmaking power, such that as I explain in in our lost constitution, uh I've got these two stacks of documents in my office.
One is eighty thousand pages long and eleven feet tall, the other is a few inches tall and a few hundred pages long.
The short stack of documents or the laws passed by Congress last year, the long stack, eighty thousand pages.
Those are the federal regulations issued last year.
So uh uh Congress is making a lot less law and is impacting the economy a a lot less than these eggs than these executive branch bureaucrats who never stand for election, are not accountable to the people, and yet are making so much of the law that's costing the American people two trillion dollars a year, making every one of us poorer, particularly the poor and middle class.
Well, all the numbers bear that out.
Um I I'm just I guess what's frustrating to me, I'm trying to understand if Donald Trump has said all these things, why is there this real mysterious resistance towards him?
You know, we saw with the Brexit vote last week in Great Britain there there certainly is a feeling among Americans that we have been too globally oriented.
I think people look at the last Iraq war and they see just like Vietnam, we keep politicizing wars, we send men and women to go fight and die and give up their limbs, and they do it and they win, and then we we literally rob them of their victory again.
And I think uh and the issue of trade and some of these other issues, I'm a free trader, but I'm also a fair trader.
And I think Americans are losing jobs because, you know, a lot of American companies want to sort of send off their their labor costs and reduce them dramatically by sending them to poor countries.
Right.
And you know, we don't get we don't even get a chance to sell our automobiles in Japan without a uh a really ridiculously high tax.
Right.
And and and as I reviewed that uh exit poll data that was released uh Friday uh after the vote, uh I became more and more convinced that regardless of what issue people identified as the single most important political issue, the unifying theme behind those who were voting to exit the European Union was that they didn't like where their decisions were being made.
So for some, for instance, it was about immigration, for others maybe it was about trade, for others it was uh uh several issues in combination.
But the unifying uh theme uh behind the vote of basically everyone who voted to exit was they didn't like their decisions being made by a centralized, increasingly bureaucratic authority uh that was not accountable to the people, because those making the policy uh were not ever subject to election.
And so uh while those are distinct decisions, there are some unifying themes with what we're seeing here in the United States.
The American people are understandably frustrated with the fact that they are increasingly subject to these laws made by unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats, who as well intentioned as they might be will never stand for election.
And so they're they're not accountable to the people in the same way that members of Congress are.
But for that to work, you've got to have members of Congress who are willing and even eager to exercise their constitutional authority, even when it's difficult.
Well, John Boehner g accumulated while speaker nearly five trillion in new debt.
That doesn't sound you know, that's the incredibly shrinking Congress that you talk about, running from their Constitutional authority and duty, but the same was with Obamacare.
The same was with illegal unconstitutional immigration.
And let's be frank here.
I think the reason that Congress is has the lowest approval numbers ever is because they've earned it.
And they've been unwilling to fight.
Their fear and their timidity when it comes to standing on their principles is non existent.
Well, I think that's right.
And I think it has become too common a theme for members of Congress to care more about uh their ability to seek and obtain perpetual reelection than they are about performing their constitutional obligation.
The fact is, Sean, the the legislative power is a non-delegable power.
It's something that we're not supposed to be able to delegate uh to the executive branch.
And that is exactly what we've been doing now for decades.
Uh y you you you look at laws like Obamacare and Dodd Frank, each of which contained hundreds and hundreds of uh individual delegations of power to an executive branch agency.
And everything that happens thereafter is in the complete control of the executive branch agency.
Especially when you've got a Congress that doesn't withhold spending, doesn't withhold funding using uh Congress's spending power, uh that becomes an unchecked power within the executive.
Tell me if this is a true perception on my part.
I look at Congress now as more willing to be outspoken against Donald Trump than they are against Hillary or the Obama agenda.
True or false?
Well, I I wouldn't say that every member of Congress uh the vast majority.
I uh I I would say there are certainly some who fit into that category.
Um, you know, I uh I I certainly think we need to be expressing agreement where agreement is had.
We need to be looking for ways to unify the party whenever we can.
Yeah, I think so.
So tell us about where people can get you your book and paperback.
Well, you can buy our lost constitution on Amazon.
You can buy it at Barnes and Noble, um, you can buy it at uh uh a number of retail uh brick and mortar locations as well.
But this is uh uh this is an uh uh an affordable version of this book.
It's uh it's cheaper because it's a paperback, but it's a great book.
And uh it's a book that can help you answer questions, whether it's around the water cooler or around the dinner table.
Um you can answer questions to people about key provisions of the Constitution that have been neglected.
The book also contains uh uh stories uh telling us where some of these provisions came from, why they're so important, and uh it contains a detailed analysis of how we can uh discern whether a particular candidate for federal office, whether somebody running for president or Senate or Congress, uh uh believes in the Constitution and is dedicated to restoring it.
Yeah, well, I think all those things are important.
Uh to me, I think the agenda of the Republicans ought to be simple.
Stop robbing our kids blind and balance the budget.
Uh conservative justices, because that's going to impact the country for generations to come.
I like health savings accounts.
Energy independence should be a goal that we should be energy independent in four years.
Education should go back to the states, an elimination of common core, secure our borders, fix the VA which is broken, build up our military, define radical Islam for what it is, and you know, I I don't think any of these things are hard, but I don't hear anyone articulating that list that simply and the communication level is very low.
Yeah, I think that happens to some extent.
I I think that the more we can boil things down to their essence, the better off we will be.
That's one of the reasons why I've chosen to boil things down the way I do, which is to say that almost all of our problems within the federal government today can be traced in one way or another to our refusal to adhere to these twin str structural protections in the Constitution.
The vertical protection we call federalism, which tells us to govern locally, and the horizontal protection that we call separation of powers.
Separation of powers, coequal branches of government.
You know, anyway, Senator Mike Lee, our lost Constitution, the willful subversion of America's founding document.
