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So, I just met Gary Byrne.
He's going to join us in an hour from right now.
He is the former White House Secret Service officer, wrote the book Crisis of Character.
A White House Secret Service Officer discloses his first-hand experience with Hillary, Bill, and how they operate.
Wow.
Read the book over the weekend.
This is a powerful, powerful book, an indictment on somebody in this presidential election year that does not have the temperament to be the president of the United States.
But you know what?
Let him tell the story.
And I also just warned him, I said, you know that there is a whole team of paid sycophants of Hillary that are out there.
Media Matters right now is out there scanning the book, every chapter, every verse.
You're a horrible human.
You're a liar.
He's a liar.
Discredited books.
You know, I was watching David Gergen the day Trump gave his speech, and Trump had mentioned Peter Schweitzer in the book.
There was like one minor paragraph that needed to be edited in the book that they didn't quite get right out of a whole book.
He's discredited.
Meanwhile, the whole book was dead on accurate, but for the one paragraph, and that's just the way the left works.
They smear, slander, besmirch.
It's basically just a matter of that's general operating procedure for them.
That's what they do.
I tell you what's going to happen every single election year, and people don't listen to me.
I'll give you an example of this.
ABC, this weekend, you had a top surrogate for Hillary Clinton claiming on national television that Donald Trump saying America first and that brand of nationalism is really racism.
What do I say?
Now remember, her mentor, the person that she loves so dearly, was the former Klansman, Robert KKK Bird.
Or that J. William Fulbright, Bill Clinton's mentor, the person he most admires, known segregationist.
Al Gore's father votes against the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act.
These people are phony.
But anyway, if you're too pro-American and you want to put America first, deep down what you're really saying is you're a racist.
Anyway, that was said by Michael Eric Dyson.
Isn't he an NBC contributor, too?
I don't know what he does.
Anyway, he said, Donald Trump's nationalism is clearly fueled by the kind of racism that Americans should soundly reject.
Alex Castellanos talked about voters rejecting elitism both in the U.K. and the U.S. Dyson said elitism is a red herring.
He argued Hillary Clinton is more closely embodies Democratic values than Trump and his nationalism do, and nationalism is really white racist supremacist nationalism.
You know, it's just nonsense.
And it's so I promise Donald Trump, let's hit the checklist.
We ought to have, you know, like a date and you win a prize.
When is Hillary going to play the gender card?
When is Hillary going to play Republicans Want Dirty Air and Dirty Water in that card?
When are they going to play Grandma Gets Thrown Over the Cliff and the scare tactic there?
Because all of that is predictable.
When you don't have an agenda, that's all you've got.
And, you know, I'll tell you one thing that was really scary that I saw in the Daily Caller today.
The Democratic Party at their convention is ready to stage their own global warming inquisition if Hillary wins the White House.
According to the Daily Caller, Democratic operatives responsible for creating the party platform this year have unanimously adopted a provision calling for the Department of Justice to investigate companies who disagree with Democrats on global warming so-called science.
Oh, if you're a science denier, if you're a global warming denier, by the way, check the ice cap ice build this year was like at its highest in decades.
You know, I'm not saying why did they have to at the Anglican University?
Why did they have to alter the data if it was so overwhelming, the evidence?
And according to all you fear-mongers out there, this is all based on a political agenda, the political agenda predicated on a belief that capitalism is bad, that capitalism rapes and pillages the planet for profit, and that somehow we're destroying human beings that are going to blow the earth up.
According to Al Gore, we should all be dead by right now.
And none of which is happening and none of which can happen.
And there's a certain ebb and flow to the Earth's temperature, which is rather minute when you actually look at it.
And all their predictions about a new ice age coming in the 70s turned out to be bogus.
Then it all became global warming.
And then it became climate change because the global warming was followed by years of colder weather.
And, you know, it goes on and on.
That's why they want to shut down the coal industry.
That's why they want to stop fracking and on and on.
You know, Steve Moore's book was pretty good on this.
The goal of climate policies is to eliminate the coal, oil, natural gas industries, which relies on, which is the lifeblood of our economy.
In the first eight months of 2015, wind produced 1.7% of all energy consumed and 4.3% of our electricity.
Similarly, disappointing, solar power merely produced 0.6% of energy consumed.
It is the lifeblood of a free society.
And the technological miracle of hydro fracking has given hundreds of years' worth of clean burning fuel.
People forget natural gas is a clean burning fuel that actually reduces greenhouse gas emissions.
It's also never been specifically shown to harm the environment, despite media claims.
And we are the Saudi Arabia.
We're the Middle East of natural gas.
And now we've got the technology to do it.
And you know what?
It's creating millions of jobs, high-paying jobs for millions of Americans.
And we're too stupid to allow most Americans to have those jobs.
Anyway, so I guess they're going to put you in jail.
I want to go back.
There is a Democratic fear emerging after the Brexit vote on Thursday of last week and how it now shows trouble ahead for Hillary Clinton.
Now, Democratic insiders, they're worried that the same forces that led to victory for Brexit could spell doom for Hillary's presidential campaign.
And you know what?
They should be afraid because the same sentiment that existed in Great Britain over immigration, over refugees, over the high costs of the European Union are the same things, same issues that we're dealing with now in this country.
Anyway, outside of her campaign, there are Democrats that said the strength of the leave block in economically frustrated regions.
In Britain, a shock after polls showed that the sides were equally positioned for a victory, could be a cause of concern at home where the economy's been struggling.
And all those statistics I give.
Look, if you're one of the 95 million Americans out of the labor force, what good did Obama's presidency did, what did it do for you?
If you're one of the 50 million in poverty, what did Obama's presidency do for you?
If you're one of the 46 million on food stamps, what is the Obama presidency doing for you?
Even if you have an Obama phone, what is that doing for your life and the opportunity?
What is Hillary's economic policy that's going to get you out of your situation so you can climb the ladder of success in this country?
Those disproportionately impacted, negatively impacted by these policies, interestingly, happen to be core bases of the Democratic Party.
Minorities, black Americans, Hispanic Americans are suffering the most.
Obama!
You got Obama phone?
Yes, everybody in Cleveland, low minority, got Obama phone.
Keep Obama in president, you know?
He gave us a phone.
He gave you a phone.
How did he give you a phone?
You sign up if you're on full stamps.
You want Social Security.
You got low income.
You disability.
Hey, everybody.
Okay, what's wrong with Romney again?
Romney, he sucks on me.
Hey!
Well, Romney probably would have created jobs.
That terrible human being had binders with women's resumes in it that he was going to hire.
Anyway, I want to go back to this vote from Thursday, and I do think this is trouble.
I do think that it is a good fear.
Obama's top political advisor, interestingly, guided Cameron's Brexit collapse.
Now, the American media is doing a pretty good job to ignore, I think, one of the more important political angles to all of this.
Turns out that Obama's political operation was directly involved in trying to defeat Brexit.
None other than Jim Messina, who managed Obama's 2012 reelection campaign.
He was the technology guru who boosted fundraising and voter turnout through the roof for Obama.
Anyway, Messina went over to London to manage Prime Minister Cameron's anti-Brexit campaign.
And judging by the results, he just blew it.
Now, what makes this even more significant is Messina's campaign team is the political operation that Hillary Clinton is counting on to defeat Donald Trump.
And way back in January, the Business Insider reported that Obama's 2012 campaign manager, Jim Messina, has been hired by the Remain campaign to try and keep Britain in the European Union at the upcoming EU summit and referendum.
Described by the nation as Obama's enforcer, the London Times reports that Messina had joined the Remain campaign, but does not give specifics about what the exact role Messina was playing.
Messina, known for his innovative use of technology, exploitation of data-driven organizing and fundraising.
He also has experience of the British political landscape and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
The Conservatives won.
Messina bragged.
He's never lost an election.
He lost one now.
Anyway, given the enormous repercussions of this decision to leave the EU.
Now, if you want to put things in context, what happened in Britain on Friday is probably historically going to go down as the most significant event in the post-World War II history of Great Britain.
Now, the most obvious and immediate impact is, you know, now they're engulfed in this political turmoil with the Prime Minister announcing he's resigning once the Conservative Party chooses his successor.
And Cameron's allies are working to stop Boris Johnson, who was the former London mayor and the most prominent figure in the anti-EU movement.
Now, this turmoil in the Conservative Party was bound to happen.
But what's more surprising is the fact that the far-left Labor Party, Jeremy Corbyn, is now facing a rebellion in his ranks.
Hillary Benn, the Labor Party spokesperson for foreign affairs, fired Saturday evening for disloyalty.
That led to around a dozen leading Labor shadow government members resigning their posts in the hopes of forcing a leadership election.
And their basic complaint is that Corbyn didn't campaign hard enough on behalf of the Remain coalition in the EU ahead of last week's referendum.
Remain was the official Labor Party position.
Corbyn was only a tepid supporter of the Remain movement, not for a conservative, but for far-left reasons.
And deposing Corbyn would be the wisest thing the Labor Party could do since he's so radical and he's in favor of nationalizing industries and having closer ties with Hamas and Hezbollah.
That's not the kind of guy that makes Bernie Sanders look like a right-winger.
Anyway, but the main point here is that these developments underscore the stunning vote to leave the EU has completely scrambled things, and Britain is now deeply, deeply divided, and it's a deeply uncertain future for what lies ahead for them.
These are uncharted waters for the world.
I see the Dow is, you know, doing its dance down 311 today.
You know, they lost, what, 3% the other day, another 2% or so today, but, you know, there's something else going on, which I think is a lot deeper.
Washington Post, of all places, actually hit the nail on the head in a front-page story.
The vote in Britain to leave the European Union lays bare the most dangerous obstacle confronting the world's most ambitious economic and political bloc, the voice of the European people.
Goes on to say: the elites who forced the union, a sprawling labor and consumer market of more than 500 million people, have for decades pursued an agenda of deepening integration.
French bakers, German bankers, Italian restaurateurs would find themselves beholden to Brussels, the administrative capital, now viewed with the same amount of voter sympathy in towns and villages of Europe as Washington is in America's heartland.
And then it goes on to say the British result amounted to a shock because of its seep, an outright pullout from the EU, and it forces Europe now to face the fact that broad public discontent with the EU by no means is confined to Britain.
Voters in France, Ireland, the Netherlands have previously made clear that they want to get out as well.
And the United Kingdom's vote was a direct challenge to the viability of the European Union.
And even those who are pro-EU are now conceding that there's a profound disconnect between bureaucrats in Brussels calling for more Europe, a slogan meaning more integration, and millions of citizens that they serve who say they want less.
Francois Holland said a jolt is necessary.
Oh, Pepe La Pieu.
Remember that character in the cartoon?
He was funny.
Ask our French colleagues.
Oh, Monsieur.
I remember.
I remember with distinction.
I used to actually go around mimicking it.
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Harry Byrne, his book, Crisis of Character, a White House Secret Service officer, discloses his firsthand experience with Hillary, Bill, and how they operate.
Also, Senator Mike Lee will check in with us today.
I've gotten some emails.
Some are very concerned.
Look at the polls, Hannity.
Hillary's up 14 in the Reuters poll.
Hillary's up 9 in the 9 or no, more than that.
Up 12 in the Washington Post poll.
What do you say about that?
Well, the Wall Street Journal NBC poll was in the margin of error at 4.
So, anyway, the poll shows Hillary leading by these points.
Here's a problem.
Gateway Pundit was the first that I saw to report this.
In the Reuters poll, there were 1,201 respondents.
Of the 1,201, 626 were Democrats.
423 were Republicans.
In other words, 52% of respondents were Democrats.
35% were Republican.
Shocking.
Anyway, Reuters is not the only misleading poll.
The Washington Post, ABC News poll, 36% of respondents Democrats, 12% more than Republicans at 24%.
Now, that's like the three polls we had last week.
Now, if you get more even and more balanced than the people you're polling, you're going to have a different result.
So I'm not exactly worried.
One thing I can tell you right now is the media has fully, completely, utterly now gone in the tank for Hillary.
It's all now, it's full, onboard, non-stop.
Whatever Hillary's talking point of the day is, they're going with it.
And that's just the way it's going to be now probably through the rest of the campaign.
Although I can tell you, I am, I just, my gut tells me there's going to be an FBI criminal referral.
And I don't think Loretta Lynch is going to act on it.
And I think it's going to define this election.
That's my guess.
Wishful thinking, Hannity.
And on top of that, I also think that, you know, and I think Democrats reflected it over the weekend.
You saw them on TV.
They've gone nuts.
They're the ones predicting the apocalypse in light of the Brexit vote.
I mean, the anger, the agony, the outrage, consternation, petulance almost, you know, left almost makes the vote to leave the EU worth it all by itself.
But I do think it's important to clarify what's going on.
Over at Commentary Magazine's website, I thought that was a pretty thoughtful analysis.
Britons did not vote to reject cultural, economic, historic, or geographic Europe.
They voted to reject regulatory Europe.
They voted to reject a bureaucracy that seemed to them bloated, distant, ineffectual, unaccountable.
I'll add two things to this.
They also voted because immigration and migration.
They also voted because anybody from any one of the, what, 28 participating nations can go to their country and immediately access their health system, their school system, and be full-fledged citizens.
And that was a bigger part of it.
In other words, very much the same issues we're facing here.
And you got Obama's top political advisor guiding Cameron's Brexit vote.
Didn't work out too well.
And I think this fear does signal trouble for Hillary.
How much?
I don't know.
I can't say.
But it's definitely real.
All right, I told you about the Democratic platform calling for the prosecution if you're a global warming skeptic.
Uma Abedeen, Anthony Weiner's wife, anyway, is scheduled to be grilled tomorrow by the lawyers for Jihad Watch.
Remember, I keep warning you, remember the name Brian Pagliano.
He's the guy that pled the fifth, then was granted an immunity deal, proffer agreement that he entered into with prosecutors, so he can't prosecute.
He pled the fifth in the Judicial Watch deposition, but it's still more bad news for Hillary.
In other words, Judicial Watch is insisting on putting their witnesses under oath, unlike the FBI.
Anyone that wants to place bets on how many times Uma pleads the fifth tomorrow, probably a lot.
Pagliano so far is at 125.
She may be good for 300.
Who knows?
So we'll watch that pretty closely.
I see that apparently breaking the law and sneaking into America is not enough for some illegal alien activist groups.
They're now trying to forcibly shut down the ICE enforcement operations.
Anyway, there's an immigrants' right, a bunch of immigrants' rights activists tried to block the road to the Federal Immigration Agent's headquarters in Atlanta today, demanding the president stop deporting any more illegal immigrants after last week's Supreme Court stalemate.
You know, the president said on Friday, basically, he's just going to ignore the court order.
That's not a priority for us, and we get to prioritize.
It's called discretion.
Basically, the president is just lawless and wants to do anything he wants, and he doesn't care what the Supreme Court says.
His executive order stands.
Anyway, it's pretty sad to have a lawless president.
You have a former Goldman Sachs CEO who engineered the 2008 Wall Street bank bailout for the Bush administration is now throwing all of us on Main Street to the Wolves because he's with Hillary.
Why doesn't Hillary release those speeches?
You know why?
Because she sucks up to them.
I guarantee you, there would be enough information in those speeches, and there's got to be somebody that has a copy of them that's willing to come forward.
Hank Paulson is the former Treasury Secretary in the Bush administration.
I'll be voting for Hillary in the hope that she can bring Americans together to do the necessary things to strengthen our economy.
Hey, Hank, your economy's a mess, and you didn't do the taxpayers of this country any favors with your bailout of big banks and insurance companies.
Let's see.
By the way, she never gave them.
She just went in, shook hands for 10 minutes, gives a speech, and it's just a cover for them to give her money.
And then they buy access.
Oh, happens all the time.
All right, 800-941-Sean is our number.
Gary Byrne, the Secret Service officer, his brand new book, his first interview coming up right here.
His first TV interview will be with us tonight.
Let's go to our busy telephones.
Lisa is in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, the home of Wake Forest University.
What's up, Lisa?
How are you?
Hey, Sean.
What's going on?
And I just want to know how I can vote for you.
Oh, let me tell you because he won't.
Did you just set this up?
You set it up.
This is the beautiful thing about your audience.
They are amazing, and they love you and support you.
And that's what I'm saying.
Lisa, Lisa, thank you.
But it's fine.
Lisa, what you can do is you can get on your telephone.
You can text Hannity to 36500.
That's the first time.
That's going to be man from the show.
N-N-I-T-Y.
36500.
You can only vote once, so make your vote count.
Thank you.
Okay, I certainly will.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Lisa.
Lisa, I have a question for you.
Did Linda put you up to that?
Absolutely not.
Did you talk to her ahead of time?
Did she screen your call?
Can you listen to Lisa?
Does this sound like someone to hang out with?
She's very nice.
Yeah, that's true.
She's very nice.
No, it doesn't sound like anybody you'd hang out with.
That's a good point.
I stand corrected, right, Jason?
Jason is dying, chomping at the bed.
You've become a conspiracy guy all of a sudden.
What's wrong with you?
How about everybody just let's stop the lobbying for the position because nobody's going to believe me after today.
All right, we're done.
No more.
You got your little mention in today.
You have one a day, I guess, for the next two weeks.
Great.
Whether I like it or not.
Oh, there's only two days left, and voting is over.
Thank God.
We won't be wasting airtime with the money.
That means make sure everybody you have until June 30th text handed you to 365.
All right, Josh in Brick, New Jersey, listening to the all-new AM710, W-O-R, The Voice of New York and New Jersey.
Hi.
Hi, how are you, Sean?
Thank you for taking my call.
Yes, sir.
My question to you is: you're a close supporter of Trump, and I'm also supporting Trump.
My question is: why is he not going after Hillary the way he took out the other 16 candidates?
He did give this speech last week, which was very good, outlining the attacks against Hillary, but he's not doing as much.
It's not with the same enthusiasm.
What's your take on that?
I disagree.
If you go, I'm not sure what website it's on.
Just Google it.
Trump's campaign released a 50-point attack of Hillary's record because the media is so in the tank for Hillary.
He backed up every point he made in that speech about how she performed favors for donors as Secretary of State, how her trade deals have been bad for the country, how she lied about her landing in Bosnia, favoritism for friends, and, you know, it just goes chapter and verse.
I think they did a really good job actually backing this up.
50 pages of sources.
What's your position on why he's not spending his own money to totally take her down?
Well, I think he will.
I mean, he spent a lot of money in the primary.
He doesn't think he has to spend what everybody else traditionally and historically spends.
Now, Hillary Clinton's going to unload $42 million against him before the convention.
That's a lot of money.
And I think it does have an impact to some degree, but I think everything that everybody's ever wanted to say about Trump has been said.
So you think he's really being effective against Hillary.
So why is it just, it's just bothering me why it's not being reflected that way.
And, you know, you speak to people, you hear it, it's like, well, what's Trump doing?
Why isn't he going after her?
Let me give you today's date.
Today's the 27th of June.
We've got July and August, and then in earnest, you know, we've got the conventions coming up.
July 18th, we're going to be in Cleveland for the week.
We'll probably even be there before.
And then the week after, we're going to be in Philly for the week.
And after the conventions, we're going to know a lot more about the campaigns.
We're going to know a lot more about their team, their choice for vice president.
I mean, Hillary and Elizabeth Warren, Pocahontas, were together today.
And, you know, Trump wears goofy hats.
Well, you know, take a DNA test.
She claimed when she worked at Harvard to be a minority.
She was not a Native American.
And it's an insult that she claimed that she was.
So I'm actually going to do something this week.
I'm going to go.
We're going to go after her record.
We're going to give you a little lesson on Elizabeth Warren this week at some point.
All right.
I'll get to that.
Robbie is in Dallas.
Robbie, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Thank you, sir.
John, I just wanted to, I'm a World War II vet, and I just wanted to let you know that I'm a member of a lot of veteran organizations here in Dallas, and that we really support Trump.
I'm glad to hear it.
No, my father fought four years in the Pacific.
Well, I served in the Pacific, and then I had three brothers that served in World War II.
They served in Europe.
Yeah, my sister gave me on Father's Day a big poster framed of the ship that my father served in in World War II.
I was really glad to get it.
Well, good.
I have a good friend that's on your story.
It certainly beats when she gives me ties that I don't like or shirts that I'll never wear.
That's a joke inside Family Joke.
Anyway, go ahead.
Well, I just wanted you to know how strongly we support Trump.
Of course, there's a lot of other things we do.
And I want to thank you for supporting the vets.
Well, listen, I want to thank you.
You're the ones that went and fought and defeated fascism, Nazism, Imperial Japan.
I think referring to you as the greatest generation is true.
And I think that, you know, if I could only be half the man my father was, I'd be a much better person.
Well, we have a lot of veterans organizations here.
We really support Trump.
And just wanted to be sure and get that across to you.
Well, I appreciate your service to your country.
We'd live free because of you.
And God bless you.
And tell all the guys I said hire, right?
Yes, sir.
All right.
Thank you.
What a nice guy.
You know, listen, my father signed up as soon as he turned 18.
Boom.
I mean, that's the way it worked back then.
And let's get to Steve in Fayetteville, North Carolina.
What's up, Steve?
How are you?
Hey, Mr. Henry, thank you for taking my call.
Yes, sir.
First off, I just wanted to say, I was just wondering, because I'm not sure about Mrs. Clinton's security clearance.
I understand is if you're under investigation, your security clearance should be suspended.
If she, if, look, just based on what we know, the average government worker would have had their security clearance revoked and they would have lost their job.
Right.
But, okay, so if she's under investigation, say she does win the presidency, how would she be able to be commander-in-chief if she doesn't, if for security clearance has been suspended or revoked?
Well, it's not suspended.
It's not revoked.
It's an ongoing investigation.
But based on what we know, you're not allowed to mishandle classified information, and it was totally and completely mishandled.
And it was done so purposefully to avoid any congressional oversight into what she was doing.
And it was done by design because the Clintons, you know, that's the way they operate.
And you're going to hear a lot more about this in the next hour with Gary Byrne, who wrote the book Crisis of Character.
He was outside of the Oval Office for years when Bill Clinton was president.
He saw everything.
I'm sorry.
I just want to say I thought once you were under investigation, your security assurance would be suspended until you were found guilty or innocent.
Well, I wish James Comey would get this investigation done soon.
Sure seems to be taking a long time.
And I think a lot of people are rightly speculating.
Well, what happens if he announces this in September?
Are the Democrats going to have an opportunity to replace her?
I made this case, and we had to go forward, and we had no choice anymore but to go for a special counsel.
And man, she has jumped down my throat.
It was fierce and chilly.
She kind of belittled him in front of everybody.
And anybody that stood up and tried to say this is a bad idea was, you know, smashed down and belittled me personally.
Did you ever throw a lamp at your husband?
No, I didn't.
Did you ever throw a Bible at your husband?
No, I didn't.
Do you have a terrible temper?
No, but I do get angry about things.
I'm not going to deny that.
If you go to the end of the line, I'd actually go to the end of the line here.
The fact is, we had four dead Americans.
Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they'd go kill some Americans?
What difference at this point does it make?
You want me to tell you what my husband thinks?
My husband is not the Secretary of State.
I am.
So you ask my opinion.
I will tell you my opinion.
I'm not going to be channeling my husband.
This woman, this little soft-spoken, pardon me for the phrase, dowdy woman, that was seen very unassertive, took a hold of my hand and squeezed it and said, Do you understand everything that you do?
I could have passed out at that moment.
And she held on to my hand and she said, Do you understand everything that you do?
I mean, cold chills went up my spine.
That's the first time I became afraid of that woman.
I am so sick of the standard campaign lying about me.
And I also think we'd be a lot better off if we actually talk to each other instead of yelling at each other.
I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic and we should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration.
I did not have sexual relations with that woman.
I never told anybody to lie, not a single time.
Don't you someday want to see a woman president of the United States of America?
Well, it depends upon what the meaning of the word is.
I'm just chilling in Cedar Rapids.
All right, there you have it.
You heard the voices of George Stephanopoulos, Dee Dee Myers, Juanita Broderick, and then, of course, the vicious temper of the person that would like to be your next president, Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Now, this is the book that everybody's been talking about, his first interview.
It's called A Crisis of Character.
A White House Secret Service officer discloses his first-hand experience with Hillary Bill and how they operate.
Let me go to the introduction.
I dreamed of becoming an elite White House Secret Service officer, a member of its uniform division.
Nothing more and certainly nothing less.
My dream came true.
I stood guard, a pistol at my hip, outside the Oval Office, the last barrier before anyone saw Bill Clinton.
The last barrier before Monica Lewinsky saw Bill Clinton.
Yes, I am that Secret Service officer.
I saw Monica, and I saw a lot more.
I saw Hillary, too.
I witnessed her obscenity-laced tirades, her shifting of blame, how she berated Vince Foster until he could stand no more, and how minor incidents involving blue gloves and botched invitations sent her into a tizzy and much more.
We welcome to the program former Presidential Secret Service officer Gary Burners with us.
How are you?
I'm fine.
Thank you so much for having me.
You ready for the media onslaught, left-wing media onslaught that has certainly coming your way?
I spent the whole weekend reading the book.
I have no doubt when you go on your media tour, it's going to be vicious.
You're going to be put on trial.
Are you ready?
Yes, I think so.
I've experienced a little bit before when this first happened, when the story broke.
So I have a little bit of experience with it, but I'm ready.
I've got my ducks in a row, as we say.
Yeah, well, you know, you're telling your story.
Yes.
And why don't we go to the heart before we even get started into the facts of the story?
Why do you think this is important?
You do explain it, especially, and I'll jump to the end of the book a little bit here because this is so important to you.
Actually, go into great detail that you had to answer the same question now that you answered in 1998.
You were asked to go before Ken Starr.
Yes.
And what am I going to do about it?
And you knew the answer, and that you have to speak up.
Why?
Yes.
Well, at that time, when I was being investigated by Judge Starr, my fear was that if I didn't tell the truth 100% once I had to testify, that they would jail me.
And they told me they did.
I mean, a few of them.
You were facing seven years in jail if you didn't tell the truth.
At least, yeah.
And a couple times, FBI agents involved in the investigation actually threatened to arrest me.
I came to this conclusion, Sean, that telling the truth is important.
Protect the Constitution and the oath that I took to the President of the United States and the Constitution, and that one man does not supersede that.
All this happened because one man couldn't step up.
The man that was the President of the United States at the time couldn't step up and be a man and say what he did, and it all would have been over.
You signed no confidentiality agreement.
So you have every right to write this book.
That's correct.
And the reason I'm coming out now is because I want everybody to know the truth.
I want them to know how these people function.
And I want them to know about the wake of destruction of people that they leave behind them.
This is the truth.
You know, I doubt.
I don't know if I'm going to convince anybody how they're going to vote.
The most important thing about voting is as soon as you become 18, register and vote.
Vote your conscience and get educated on it.
And I hope my book, my true life story here, helps people, young people especially, understand really how they work.
At the end of the book, you said, what I learned about the Clintons firsthand, the hard way, is very important.
It's 2016, but with Hillary Clinton running for president again, it feels uncomfortable like the 1990s again, as if America were trapped in some great, cruel time machine, literally hurling us back to the land of Monica and Mogadishu and a thousand other Clinton-era nightmares.
Fool me once, as the saying goes, your fault.
Fool me twice.
The bottom line, you go on to say, my job in the 90s was to lay down my life for the president.
My obligation today is to raise my voice to help safeguard the presidency from Bill and Hillary Clinton and to remind readers like you what happened back then.
We all remember or should remember what a Clinton White House was like.
If we board that time machine for a return trip, it's our fault.
Yes, and that's true.
As we go on in the interview, I'm going to be able to expand a little bit more, but there's so many examples of, for instance, routinely in the very beginning in the early 90s, Mrs. Clinton uses the term the right-wing conspiracy.
There's no such thing.
It's not the right-wing conspiracy.
It's continuous bad behavior and bad decisions.
And even when they do try to do some kind of policy, something maybe good for the country, it completely falls apart because there's so many scandals going on.
They can't focus on running the country.
I mean, I've used this analogy before, Sean.
If you took every scandal that President Bill Clinton was involved in and put it on single spaces, you couldn't fit it on two pieces of paper.
It's incredible.
You describe her leadership style as volcanic, impulsive, enabled by sycophants, disdainful of the rules set for everyone else who hasn't changed a bit.
That is 100% true.
I never understood.
It didn't take long to figure out how they worked and how they acted.
And, you know, at the time, I was a member of the Secret Service Uniform Division, and I just, you know, watched what went on and I observed the way people acted around her.
And her coworkers, these people that we referred to back then as the Arkansas Mafia, friends from Arkansas, they were afraid of her.
They were terrified.
And at first, I'm like, I don't understand that.
And by this time, I had been close to her proximity-wise when I saw her lash out at somebody.
And to me, it was almost comical.
I was like, God, I've never seen anybody so upset over something so simple.
And her anger and rage isn't fixing anything.
It never does.
I don't think anger or rage works for anybody.
No.
You said, though, portrayed as the long-suffering spouse of an unfaithful husband whose infidelities I personally observed and knew to be true, the Hillary Clinton I saw was anything but a sympathetic victim.
Now, those loyal to her kept coming back for these volcanic eruptions of hers.
I witnessed firsthand the Clintons' personal and professional dysfunction.
So consumed were they by scandal, so intent on destroying their real or imagined enemies, governing was an afterthought.
Why don't you go into describing this temper that you're describing?
So there's many examples of that.
The one that always comes to mind is I refer to as the blue glove incident.
And so what happened is that a group of people were coming in to visit with the president and his senior staff.
And you said he was very charming to people.
He would always want to give them extra time.
He was always accommodating to anybody that came by.
Yes, 100%.
He was incredibly charming.
I actually had the opportunity to introduce some family members to him one time.
And my father, for five minutes, couldn't open his mouth.
I mean, it was just incredible.
And so anyway, Mrs. Clinton's anger at this time, these visitors were coming in.
And through a series of errors with the uniform division, as these guests were coming in, there was about 30 to 40, I think, guests.
And they were representative members of the gay and lesbian coalition that helped get President Clinton elected the first time.
And so under the promise that he would immediately allow gays in the military.
And things were different back then, as you well remember, I'm sure.
And then it became the compromise of don't ask, don't tell.
Right.
And they were furious about that.
So the person bringing them in was former Congressman Barney Frank.
So I'm actually posted at the Oval Office, and I get a phone call from a friend of mine, and he described to me, he said, heads up, we just had an incident.
And what he described to me was as the guests were coming in, the officers that were running the metal detectors, they were putting on these blue gloves that we're required to wear.
When Barney Frank saw them putting the gloves on, he said, why are you putting those gloves on, officer?
And the one guy, I refer to him in the book as Krusty.
He's this great old Marine from Vietnam era.
He put the gloves on.
He looked the congressman right in the eye and goes, why do you think?
Well, what Barney Frank didn't know was the list that we had of who was coming in, it actually said on the top, HIV positive representatives.
Now, we all knew that you can't get HIV that way, but we still have to wear the gloves because we're protecting ourselves from other stuff.
Right.
And that was standard operating procedure.
It was, absolutely.
So when they got in, they took advantage of what happened there, and they berated the staff, and it got up to Mrs. Clinton, and she went off the deep end.
And I describe it in the book as on a scale of one to 10, this was about a one, considering what goes on around the world and what the presidency is responsible for.
So I get a heads-up phone call from an officer on the east side of the White House.
He said, heads up, here comes Mrs. Clinton, and she's bad.
So she came over, she went into the Oval Office, and she berated the president for about 40 minutes.
It's so loud that the agent and I that were posted outside the Oval Office actually closed a doorway that blocked off the Roosevelt room and some outer hallways because she was so loud.
And she berated the president.
She blamed everything on us.
She called us a bunch of.
Yeah.
Don't worry.
You can't say it on radio.
I know what you're going to say.
She caught us a bunch of rear ends and used a lot of foul language.
And it got so bad that at one point the agent looked at me and realized, he said, the president is actually defending you guys.
And it was kind of a comical moment.
I'm like, oh, my God, the president's defending us.
She wanted to get rid of you because she said, oh, they're loyal to George Herbert Walker Bush.
They were here with him.
And they're disloyal to us.
They have been from day one.
Sure.
They did have a weird paranoia about the Bush administration.
They actually replaced the phone system because they thought they had it tapped.
Almost a brand new phone system.
Wow.
When they first got there.
And it was expensive, and they didn't have a way to pay for it at first.
Yeah.
Well, you talk at length at how they became, you know, spending a lot of money was a big issue.
And you had to draw straws to give her the bad news.
Tell us about, you start chapter one, the vase.
Yes.
So I come into work one morning.
I'm assigned to the Oval Office.
That's my permanent post at the time.
And I come in early, I get my workout in.
And as I'm heading over, I run into a couple of the people that work in the mansion.
And they said, oh, wait, do you get in there and hear what happened?
So I'm like, oh, okay.
So I went over to the mansion and talked to my buddy who worked on the mansion floor.
And I said, what's going on?
I just saw George and so-and-so that they said something happened.
They said, oh, that the president of the first lady had this huge fight last night, and that it was so loud that the people that work in the mansion that take care of the first family, like they backed away downstairs, and it was loud.
And then there was a loud noise, like a crashing sound.
And when it went up to be investigated, there was a broken vase on the floor.
And, you know, nothing at the window.
It was across the hall from where it was normally placed.
Right.
It wasn't like it didn't fall over.
No, no, no.
It was thrown.
Right.
That appears to be.
And the next morning he had a black eye.
Yeah.
The next time I saw him, he had a black eye.
Now, I don't, you know, I wasn't there.
So I don't know if he hit her, if she hit him.
I don't know if she threw the vase at him.
I don't know how he got the black eye.
But I'm going to tell you this: the gardener didn't give it to him.
Nobody in the Secret Service hit him.
And so when he came down that next morning, you could see they were trying to hide a black mark with makeup and stuff.
Right.
It didn't work.
And you even asked, oh, and they said it's allergies.
And the answer was allergies in one eye, not two.
Right.
Right.
And then, yeah, exactly.
We were joined by Gary Byrne.
We have a lot of time.
Another hour with Gary.
He's going to stay with us.
His brand new book, it's making a lot of headlines.
His first interview.
It's called A Crisis of Character.
A White House Secret Service Officer discloses his first-hand experience with Hillary, Bill, and how they operate.
You can get the book at Amazon.com.
We have it on our website, Hannity.com, and also in bookstores everywhere starting tomorrow.
We continue.
We're joined in studio today.
His first interview, Gary Byrne.
He has a brand new book.
It's gotten a lot of press.
A Crisis of Character.
A White House Secret Service Officer discloses firsthand his experience with Hillary, Bill, and how they operate.
In your introduction, you referred to witnessing how Hillary berated Vince Foster until he could stand no more.
And you go into more detail in the book, and you mostly saw Vince Foster in the hallways, and he and Mrs. Clinton and a lawyer, you know, close friends, confidants, I guess.
Word circulated that she berated him mercilessly.
And the first time you saw Foster, you know, you figured he wouldn't last a year.
He was uncomfortable, unhappy there, and you knew what it was like to be yelled at by superiors.
But Mrs. Clinton never hesitated to launch a tirade.
Yet her staffers never dared say, I don't have to take this.
We'll say that.
They reminded me of battered wives, too loyal, too unwilling to acknowledge.
They never assuage her.
And then they had no one to blame but themselves, and they could never admit it.
Now, you really feel that this pressed him or pushed him.
I think he came with a lot of baggage.
I didn't know, I like to be clear on this.
It's not like Vince and I were friends.
To see Mr. Foster around the Westling like I did to everybody else.
But I do know about him being berated, and I understand he had a high-pressure job.
But when I described to you how uncomfortable this man looked, I mean, he didn't look comfortable in his own skin.
He wanted nothing to do with the Washington, D.C. and the pressure that it brought.
And when the story, when I was actually working the day, he took his own life and they found him in Fort Marcy Park.
And when the message came out, I will tell you, I was sad that it happened, but I was not stunned.
I really wasn't.
Because you saw this guy under pressure.
She was constantly berating them and browbeating him.
Sure.
When you hear the staff that worked in the White House in the West Wing talking about how bad she berated Vince Foster as opposed to how bad she berated anybody else, that's pretty significant.
And these are things, Sean, that I swore, you know, years ago, up until recently, I was going to take all this to my grave because I said I would never talk about these things.
But clearly, somewhere, and I'm very uncomfortable about talking about it, but it's important for people to know the truth.
Somewhere in the last year and a half, I've crossed through a threshold and I've changed my mind, obviously.
And it is what it is.
There's no going back.
So your purpose is really to warn the American people.
She is not as she seems.
No.
In other words, the temperament question has come up a lot in this campaign as it relates to Donald Trump.
Sure.
You're describing somebody that does not have the temperament to be president in any way, shape, matter, or form, and that she hides it, and she puts on a public persona and a private persona.
Yes.
And privately, she berates staff, berates even Secret Service officers like yourself.
That's correct.
Says F off to them.
Yes.
Tells them to go to hell.
Yes.
You tell two specific instances.
Talk about that.
Sure.
So the one that always bothered me the most.
And so we had a uniformed division officer who had been on the job a short period of time.
Nice guy, top of the line type person.
He had been in the military, and he actually had been wounded in Somalia.
Now, he was wounded in Somalia before what we would call today the Black Hawk Down.
Black Hawk Down, yeah.
Right.
So he was actually shot by a sniper, and he received the Purple Heart.
Now, when you're working at the White House and the Uniform Division, people don't know that you have been in the military or you have won an award, but they do know you're a police officer.
You're wearing a uniform like the Uniform Division officers do.
And he was walking down the West Colonnade, and he said, Good morning, First Lady.
And she looked at him and said, Go F yourself.
And so he couldn't believe it.
And he came back to the break room and he was discussing it.
And another officer who had something similar happen to him, they started discussing it.
And the sergeant overheard him and started pushing it up the chain of command.
It's not that it hadn't happened before.
It's just that the way it happened with this guy, when it got up the chain of command and the senior agents found out who this guy was, they felt bad about it.
But there was a phoniness about her.
For example, she would treat you one way when nobody was looking.
Right.
And she would berate you.
Right.
And then when guests were around, she'd put her hand on your shoulder and say, oh, this is my favorite agent.
Yeah.
And then, for example, you described the relationship with her husband.
If the cameras came in, oh, they were Lovey Dovey.
They were the closest couple in the world.
But in reality, they were anything but.
Right.
That's what I experienced.
That's what I saw.
I saw a lot of examples of the going from normal Hillary, which is distant and cold, to here comes a camera or here comes somebody that she needs to impress, say, somebody who donates money or somebody who's helping them.
And immediately she flips a switch.
I've seen it many a time.
Everybody in the Secret Service that worked around them saw it, Sean.
The difference is they're not coming forward.
And I understand why they're not, but like I said before, clearly I've crossed some threshold and things have changed.
But Bill was different.
When she wanted all of you guys fired, he defended her.
He did.
And you heard this conversation.
You're right outside the door.
Everybody heard it.
Everybody heard it.
Yeah.
And you heard them fight constantly.
Not constantly.
A lot.
Yes.
Yes, absolutely.
And it's not just what I heard.
You know, there's a I know as people read this book, you might get the impression that the people in the Secret Service, the agents and officers are a bunch of, you know, old ladies sitting around telling stories.
When when I put.
If you and I are working together, Sean, and you're relieving me, I have to tell you what's going on.
And that's how this stuff, we find out about this stuff.
So the fact that the way she behaved the night before in the holding room at a dinner, I would hear the next day.
Did they sleep in the same room?
I have no idea.
Nobody would know that.
I certainly don't.
You wouldn't know based on where your position was.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, I did have the opportunity.
Because of the position I had outside the Oval Office, my top secret security clearance had some things added to it.
And it also gave me the opportunity to do escorts.
So let's say you're the guy they hired to come in and fix the floors.
I would escort you on a weekend while the first family wasn't there up in the living course.
I've been up there, but I didn't see anything that was out of the ordinary.
You know, it looked like it's a beautiful place to live, and it looked like a normal home to me.
Let's talk about the women.
And it wasn't just Monica.
Yeah.
And Monica was not as slick as everybody.
Everybody knew she was out to hook up with the president.
Sure, sure.
She kind of left a trail of breadcrumbs.
You know, you had to be pretty switched off not to understand why she was asking you where the president is or how your day is going and did he leave the mansion yet.
And she was purposely trying to place herself in his path.
And that's what brought her to my attention and why eventually, after a short period of time, I tried to get her removed.
And it worked for a short period of time, but then it didn't.
Bill Clinton personally got her the pass to come back.
That's what I believe, absolutely.
I mean, how else do you get it?
I mean, this is a big deal.
When you get that White House pass, that's a big deal.
That means you have full access for the most part, except for the Oval Office.
You have that blue pass.
You have access to the West Wing, to the ground floor of the mansion.
Right.
That's a big deal.
And an intern doesn't usually get that.
No.
But the other thing that really shocked me, you said there's many women involved here.
Well, you talked about Eleanor Mondale, former vice presidential candidate, former presidential candidate Mondale's daughter caught, I think it was in the blue room.
Map room.
The map room on the table making out with Bill.
Right, right.
They were in front of the table, but yeah.
And there were many others.
How many others?
So I don't really know what the count is.
Best estimate.
Yeah, I'm aware of easily three to four.
These were regular people that he would see that you knew he was having shenanigans with.
Well, not regular, but I know that he had contact with them.
And also, some of them were regular because they were people that traveled with him or met him on the road when he would go on the road.
And so the agents knew that they were meeting her.
And he was getting them?
Absolutely.
I heard quite a few stories from the agents about they actually, when I was trying to intervene with Monica and before I kind of put two and two together that it was really happening, that they were having this affair, that one of the agents said to me, Gary, stay out of this.
You don't know what happens on the road.
I heard that many times.
Gary, you don't know what's going on on the road.
You're not with us all the time.
Were they trying to look out for you?
That was a heads up.
Don't get yourself in trouble.
Yes.
Listen, these guys may be mad at me now for talking, but I had a great working rapport with those agents and especially Monica.
Let me ask you about that because I read some reports that some of these guys are mad at you.
Have others contacted you and said, hey, thank you.
Yeah, I'm getting a lot of support from my uniform division brothers and sisters.
Right.
But the agents are.
Well, there might have been a little bit of competitiveness between the agents and the officers.
Yeah, there's always been a rift between the agents and officers.
They actually run the Secret Service.
And the individual people that I work with are great, but the Secret Service mentality, the way they manage their people is horrendous.
It's terrible.
And this is not blaming the Clinton administration.
This was going on way before that.
But the Secret Service management style is tough.
It's do as I say, not as I do sometimes.
And they work you into the ground.
They're using the same procedures they've used for 70 years and the same manpower statistics with so much more work to do than there used to be.
Who got the Bible thrown at his head?
So this agent that I worked with, I was working with him on post one day, and I had heard the story from somebody else, but I didn't know who it was.
And I turned to this guy and I said, hey, did you hear this story about one of you guys get a Bible thrown at you?
And he looked at me and he goes, yeah, it was me.
And as soon as he told me, and he got hit.
I mean, it hit its target.
They were on the limit in the limousine on the south grounds of the White House.
And I don't know what she was pissed off about.
Sorry.
No, that's fine.
I say it all the time.
Mad about.
No, she was pissed off.
Go ahead.
She had a Bible in her hand and she lunged forward and hit him in the back of the head with it.
Now, he got out of the, you know, opened the door and he turned around and he made it very clear to her that that was not tolerable and it wasn't going to happen.
And you even described in the book, you guys, if the first family is struggling to pick up luggage, you are not, as protocol dictates.
You're not allowed to reach down and help them.
Keep your hands free.
You got to have your hands free.
Because if an incident occurs, I mean, I've carried a weapon all my adult life.
Sure.
You're not going to be able to get to your weapon if you're picking up luggage.
That's right.
And you're right about that.
And the other thing, more importantly, when it comes to Protect Easy, is you got to get your hands on them to get them moving.
You've got to move them away from the danger.
And that's really the agent's primary job.
And that's what you're hired for.
And you're willing to take a bullet and you're willing to go down and give up your life for these people.
Yes.
That's why, you know, to be treated so horribly, go to hell, F off, Bibles thrown, total dismissal.
She really treated the officers and agents like crap.
Yeah, she did.
Every day, though, this was a regular, unless somebody was around, it was, I hate why do you think she hated agents that are assigned to protect her life so much?
You know, I'm no psychologist, but you know, I'm an expert on observation.
So I'm going to just say what I think here.
And over these years, I just think she has an issue with men.
And my whole thing with her and even her husband, to a certain extent, the Clinton machine, as I call it, they don't like law enforcement and they don't really like the military.
I'm sorry.
And I have opinions and stories of why I believe that, but they just don't seem to like them.
And they'll say, obviously, they say that, you know, how much they support the military, but let's look at the incidents that have happened and they weren't supporting them.
And the same with law enforcement.
And by the way, there was a distinct difference.
You described the time that you had in the White House with the Bushes, and they were lovely people.
But you're not speaking politically here.
I don't even know.
No.
I mean, you don't want her to be elected president, so I assume that means you're going to vote for Donald Trump.
Well, I'm not going to talk about who I'm going to vote for yet.
But the Bushes were nice people, genuinely nice people.
They respected the officers and agents and the hard work.
And the people who have a sense of humor, great, kind people.
And, you know, in hindsight, when I think about it now, Sean, it kind of set me up for a huge shock when we changed administrations and the Clintons end up being the way they are.
And because the Bushes were like families.
Did Bill ever come out of the Oval Office like, guys, I'm really sorry.
I'm sorry you had to hear that.
No.
No.
But one time along those lines, Sean, he was in a meeting.
The president was in the meeting in the Roosevelt room, and he was crossing back over to the Oval Office.
And whatever they were discussing in the meeting was pretty hot and contentious.
And he was upset about something.
And as he walked out, he was berating somebody about getting something done.
And clearly, you know, you could tell that somebody dropped the ball, whatever.
As he was walking back in the Oval Office, he started screaming at this or raising his voice at this one, this man and this woman whose job it was to do whatever it was.
So as he's yelling at them, he walks right by me and the agent posted there.
And the door was already open for him.
And as he walks in, he turns around and they said something to him.
And he turned around and screamed at me, closed that, you know, effing door.
And I just kind of looked at him.
I looked at the agent.
We kind of smirked at each other and I stepped in and grabbed the door and I pulled it shut.
So a little while later, he comes out into the Stewart's little kitchen area to get himself a soda.
And I walked back just because I heard a noise.
The outer door was open.
I walked back to check and it was him.
And he looked over and said, how you doing today, young man?
How's it going?
I said, good, sir.
How are you?
You know, and he didn't apologize, but he broke the way of saying it.
That's the way I interpreted it.
And he was very friendly and he was very nice.
And once in a while, he would ask you a personal question, you know, your family, that kind of thing.
It was not always horrendous.
All right, news roundup information overload hour here on the Sean Hannity show.
We have Senator Mike Lee who's going to stop by in studio coming up at the bottom of this half hour.
We continue with Secret Service Officer Gary Byrne.
He's got a brand new book out.
It's made a lot of news.
It's called A Crisis of Character.
White House Secret Service Officer discloses his first-hand experience with Hillary Bill and how they operate.
Let me go back to the women part of it.
You knew things were going on.
Then there was the map room incident with Eleanor Mondale.
You know for a fact that there were other women as well that we don't know whose names they are and you're not disclosing them.
And you even at one point hid evidence for Bill Clinton.
Sure.
Did you know you were breaking the law doing that?
Well, it technically wasn't Evans because I didn't know there wasn't an investigation going on.
I didn't know that.
But yes, there was an incident, a couple incidences, where the Navy steward brought to my attention that he had found some hand towels, white hand towels that were in one case stained with lipstick and another case stained with men's fluids, what appeared to be.
Oh, good grief.
This is the president.
This is the Oval Office.
Reagan wouldn't take his jacket off in that office for crying out loud.
Right.
He wouldn't walk across the seal.
So when I mentioned earlier that I've gone through some kind of threshold, there's a good example of what pushed me through it a little bit.
It's just bizarre.
So the steward was describing.
So you knew who it was.
Listen, any adult male knows what we were looking at.
And my fear was that, you know, the only people that handled that stuff were the Navy stewards downstairs that washed.
They're all laughing in there.
Stop.
This crew's got to, that's my crew.
They're very bad people.
They want the salacious details.
Yeah.
They washed the towels.
They would know these guys are Navy men.
They know what they would be looking at.
And at this point, I was trying to protect from any more rumors.
So I told Nelvis, I found the plastic bag out of the trash can liner.
I told Nelvis to throw them in the bag, and I destroyed them.
And then, of course, sometime later, when the story broke, broke by Matt Drudge, and then I heard about it on the Howard Stern show.
And I knew right then, I mean, my stomach almost flipped out of my body.
I was so terrified because I connected the dots instantly.
You know, that story's true.
It's out.
They're going to come after us.
You know, it's just got to be surreal.
You know, here, you wanted to do this job your whole life.
I did.
And the next thing you know, you're throwing out soiled towels of the president with his mistress.
Yeah.
And mistress is.
Yeah.
And in the case of the intern, by this time, or at some point, she becomes a government employee.
So now she's a government paid mistress.
It was bizarre when you think about it in hindsight.
It's just crazy.
You know, well, I mean, it's certainly reckless for a whole variety of reasons here.
Correct.
Let me ask you this question.
said during the shutdown when the when Monica was visiting and she gained access that she wanted so badly were you there at that point you were outside the door I was so when all this went on and she was there a lot more than we knew yeah sure the what you're describing is and the shutdown was actually kind of a a windfall for Monica because the way it works is the only essential people could come in now so the only essential people that were allowed to come in and help President Clinton was one assistant,
which would have been Betty Curry.
Right.
And then Leon Panetta, and he could have a couple interns.
And she ended up being one of the interns.
And in hindsight, it was like, it's almost comical.
I mean, you can't write this.
And so that's when she gets, so during this time, these interns, they were across from the Oval Office in the Roosevelt Room.
And that's where they were kind of working out of.
And when they needed something done, you know, they would go and find them there and then ask them to do it.
And if Hillary came by during any of this, you were supposed to refuse Hillary entry?
No, you can't refuse the first lady entry, but we certainly were paying attention to her movements.
When you're a protectee of the Secret Services.
And they would talk to you saying, watch out, she's on the warpath.
And you would know before she came down.
Right.
They would use her call sign.
They'd say, you know, Evergreen moving, Evergreen moving.
We already know she's in the mansion, so she's leaving the private living quarters.
Right.
And then you would, you know, once she hit the ground floor, if they said Hillary West Wing, you know she was headed that way.
Wasn't the president at all embarrassed when he got caught with any of these women or Eleanor Mondale?
For example, didn't you see them making out on the Oval Office desk?
No, I saw Eleanor Mondale and the president making out in the map room.
I mean, it was like full-on.
Yes, they were like two high school seniors lip-locked, you know, hugging each other.
And what happened was, is the one of the one of the housemen, excuse me, Navy stewards, went to go into the room to deliver a clean shirt to the president.
He had a shirt in his hand.
And as he started towards the door, you know, he said hi to us.
I just happened to be standing there on my way back to my post.
And he opened the door, but he was looking at us, and there they were.
But everybody knew.
How did he not think this was going to come out?
Everybody knew.
You don't think he cared.
I don't think he cared that people knew because he was used to being covered.
He was used to being protected.
He was used to getting away with it.
So it was expected that your job is you're going to be quiet about this.
I think in hindsight, I think that everything that I heard from Arkansas, from the troopers and sheriffs down there, was true.
And one officer actually told you that everything you hear about them is true and worse.
Yes, and when he did, I'm telling you, it was like he was talking, looking right through me.
Like it was a significant, I mean, I only knew this guy for a couple of minutes.
And when he told me that, I felt like it was somebody telling me something, you know, Gary, here's some good investment advice for your life.
You know what I mean?
He was serious, and he meant it.
Yeah.
And so, yeah, it was a very bizarre time, Sean.
You talk in the book, for example.
We had become work friends.
He knew that by serving the president, even a single cup of tea to ease his mind, he served his nation, whatever the president needed, whenever he needed it.
And you're talking about the White House, what's the position?
So the Stewart.
Stewart.
Yeah, I'm probably describing Nelvis there, but there were quite a few stewards.
Yeah, there were quite a few stewards.
They have a great history.
Traditionally, they were actually all Filipino men.
And they have a great story behind that.
Yeah, I mean, you're describing a surreal.
Tell us about the end of your relationship with him.
He's getting ready to, you know, when you were leaving.
So leaving Nelvis?
No, no, no.
Leaving, you know, for example, you spent, you left the job, right?
Right, so with the president.
So sometime before the story broke, I had basically had enough of what was going on.
And I didn't know what was coming, but I was tired of seeing some of the stuff that was going on.
And it was time for me to move on.
So I was trying to get into a position in the Secret Service Uniform Division tour section, and they do all the tours for the public and for the first family and events.
If you've ever been to the White House for an event, the Uniform Division people screen you in and out.
And so anyway, I wanted to go to tours because I had had enough of what was going on at the Oval Office.
And then eventually I left tours and went out to the training center to get away from it.
And then, of course, when the story broke, all those relationships with those people were under huge strain because everybody was terrified about testifying.
And so you didn't want to do it.
No, I did not.
I wanted nothing to do with it because I knew that I was going to have to talk about stuff that, I mean, it sounds silly saying it now because I'm coming out with all this, but it was really nobody's business.
And I mean that as far as it could all have been stopped by the president coming forward and manning up and doing the right thing and saying, yes, this did happen.
Here's the steps we're going to take so it never happens again, and I'm sorry, and get on with running the government instead of that in huge debacle with Congress.
It was incredible.
Yeah.
You were even threatened at one point that somebody would arrest you in front of your pregnant wife.
Yes, the FBI agent that was involved in one particular day when I was being deposed at Judge Starr's office, temporary office, and they were trying to get me riled up, and they did.
And, you know, it was a little embarrassing that I let them get me riled up.
But, you know, you can only, when you threaten to, you know, talk about somebody's spouse with your first kid, it's a little naughty.
It was over the top, and he got what he wanted, a reaction, and I gave him one.
When we hear the stories and we go over, for example, the secret server email thing of Hillary, when we hear that, and you discuss a little bit in the book about Benghazi and some of the other current events, but that fits the character.
Absolutely.
It falls right into place.
It's the same mentality or actions that I saw the whole time I was there.
I, Hillary Clinton, am not actually, I don't have to follow procedure.
You do what I want when I do it.
Do as I say, not as I do.
You say all of this was such a distraction to such a big level that governing was last on their list.
Yeah, that's exactly the way it appeared.
And this is somebody who watched close by.
You know, when all your staff, when George Stephanopoulos and Ram Emmanuel and these guys are doing nothing but putting out scandals and trying to fix stuff and twist it, Chris, they must have been exhausted when you think of all the scandals.
You even talked about Leon Panetta and Dick Morris huddling.
I'm sorry.
Leon Panetta was the target of Hillary and Dick Morris discussing how to get rid of him as the chief of staff.
Well, I'm not sure if they were actually trying to get rid of him, but what they were doing is they were meeting with Dick Morris at night.
Now, we would see Dick Morris come in usually around 10 o'clock at night.
We'd get a phone call from the Southwest Gate, you know, and the guy would say, hey, Gary Morris is here.
And he'd come up, and he always looked like he was lost in the West Wing.
He'd come through the West Side, and then if the president wasn't in the Oval Office, we would give him directions to walk to the next office or get him over to the mansion.
And then, now, of course, we used to.
Was he closer to Hillary or to Bill?
Well, he was closer to Hillary.
She apparently was his friend.
And he was, you know, back then a Republican operative.
Right.
And he was teaching them what he kind of claims he invented was, you know, triangulation.
Excuse me.
Triangulation.
Triangulation.
And so now, of course, we don't know what's going on, but when I read Leon Panetta's book and he talked about this, it fell right into place.
We used to see Dick Morris coming in all the time.
I mean, we never said anything to anybody.
That's not our job.
It had to be a cool job, though, for you.
I was thinking about this as I was reading about your life and background.
I mean, every day you're seeing big names coming in.
It's incredible.
It's incredible.
I never wanted to leave.
And, of course, that changed when this bizarre stuff happened.
I would, you know, in hindsight, if that hadn't happened, they would have had to take me out of there in a wheelchair with a crowbar.
What did you think about Clinton when you knew he was lying to the nation?
I was embarrassed.
I was disgraced and I was afraid because I was afraid.
I mean, as far as the relationship with the intern went, I was afraid.
I knew it would come back to us.
You knew it would.
You know, it would come out.
There was just too many people that knew it.
You know, one of the things that saved us, and I talk about this in the book, was that Linda Tripp did the right thing.
Linda Tripp did the right thing.
By the way, Linda Tripp and Monica wouldn't have met but for you pushing and forcing the issue of getting Monica out of there.
Right.
Which didn't last too long, but long enough for her to meet Linda.
Yeah, I believe that's correct when she went over there.
So, but yeah, so Linda Tripp, excuse me, yeah, Linda Tripp by encouraging Monica to keep the dress and then getting hold of it, that was evidence.
Right.
And if that wasn't there, it would have just been our word against his.
And the ideal that you can go in there, I mean, maybe the president and Mrs. Clinton and high-up government people can get away with answering under oath of, I don't remember, I don't recall, but somebody in the Secret Service is not going to get away with that.
One of the things, I've been to the Oval Office maybe four times.
I don't, you would have been gone by then.
Yeah.
But I remember the first time I walked in there, it was like a surreal experience.
Yeah.
You don't really feel like it seems like everything is in slow motion.
It never goes away, that feeling.
Because I almost felt like, wait a minute, this isn't really the president.
Yeah.
This must be a double.
Yeah, no.
Did anyone ever tell you that before?
Yes, yes.
And I've experienced it myself where it's almost like one evening I actually had the opportunity to introduce my parents and some family friends to President Clinton.
Right.
And we were taking a tour and he was coming back from the east side.
He was doing some public service announcements.
And the agents said, hey, we're bringing him over.
Just have your family stand here.
And he came up and talked to them and they were just floored.
And it was great.
And it was a great experience.
And it's one of those things when I talk about having a hard time coming out and whatever pushed me forward to do this.
That was one of those experiences where I've felt, you know, I certainly feel like the word betrayed comes in there, but clearly I think it's more important for the American people to know the truth about these people.
And you're ready for what's coming your way after this interview.
I am.
And you don't care.
You already thought that through.
I care, but when you do the kind of work that I've done and people that do what I do, you look at your goal and you look what's important and then you take the actions you have to do.
You think the country needs to know this before they go and vote in November.
I do.
I absolutely do.
So the person that we know in Hillary Clinton is a phony.
It is a mirage.
It's not real.
No, it is.
It's a carefully manufactured political robot, basically.
It's not even carefully manufactured.
If you really pay attention and you're not completely a Democrat or a Clinton follower, you see these things I'm talking about.
You know it's true.
You see the ages.
You've heard these stories.
And if somebody that does what I did and is taking the risk, you know, I'm not taking this risk for any other reason but the truth.
You know, by the time this is all over with, who knows what's going to be left to me, so to speak.
So, but I think it's important.
People need to know this.
And, you know, if what I've done is really not right, well, then I'll deal with that someday when I'm judged in heaven.
Well, the book is phenomenal.
I couldn't put it down, honestly.
I opened it up this weekend and I'm like half asleep, but I'm still reading it.
You know, when you're fighting sleep and reading a book you really like.
We wrote some of it like that.
Yeah.
Crisis of Character is the name of the book.
A White House Secret Service officer discloses his first-hand experience with Hillary, Bill, and how they operate.
He'll join us on Hannity tonight at 10.
The book is available on amazon.com, Hannity.com.
And as of today or tomorrow, tomorrow the latest, in bookstores all around the country.
Gary, number one, thank you for your service.
Thank you.
You are one of the guys that makes the country great.
Thank you.
And you served your country with real honor and distinction.
And I think what you're doing here is a public service, although the Hillary people, I'm sure, won't view it that way.
Anyway, thanks so much for being with us.
Look forward to seeing you tonight.
Thank you for having me.
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When we come back, Senator Mike Lee is with us as we continue.
There's our friend, Senator Mike Lee of Utah.
By the way, he just released a paperback version of his book, Our Lost Constitution: The Willful Subversion of America's Founding Document.
And welcome, sir.
How are you?
Doing great, Sean.
Thank you very much.
You know what?
Were you surprised when Donald Trump put your brother's name on his list of potential Supreme Court nominees?
I was very pleased when he put my brother's name on it, and I was pleased at the list as a whole.
I mean, I loved that list not just because of my brother's name, although he is particularly awesome, but every name on that list was a great one.
And this is probably the best Supreme Court list I've ever seen put forward by a Republican presidential candidate.
I am angry that some Republicans like Paul Ryan and Lindsey Graham basically seem to be doing everything they can do to sabotage Donald Trump's chances.
Am I wrong?
Well, look, I do think we need to focus as a party on finding a path toward coming together.
I understand that there are differences of opinion within the party, but we've got to find ways to reconcile those and to move forward.
I don't want to see President Hillary Clinton sworn into office in January.
Well, I don't want to see it either.
And what I don't understand is the very tepid, timid support from people in Washington.
And I'm pretty pissed off about it because, you know, Donald Trump was the one that was pressured.
He was the only guy in the first debate that wouldn't raise his hand with the pledge of loyalty.
And then the full brunt of every Republican came down on him.
If you're going to run, you've got a pledge.
You'll support the eventual winner.
And now he wins.
And now people like, well, Governor Bush and others, Lindsey Graham, now they're not standing by their promise.
Why is that?
I'm not sure.
You know, I'm always careful not to speak for anybody else, including another office holder.
So they'll have to answer that on their own.
I know that there have been some concerns expressed by some Republicans I've heard from.
They're not sure how Donald Trump would end up behaving under certain circumstances, whether he might end up being an authoritarian, somebody who would wield executive orders too liberally.
There was an article in Bloomberg today speculating about some of those things.
And so I think this is an opportunity for Mr. Trump to come out and why did you say he scares you to death?
You know, I had at the time I made that comment, I had been campaigning with my friend Ted Cruz for a number of weeks.
And at the time that happened, Tombat's statement had been made.
He'd been making a number of statements about my friend Ted that I found concerning.
And so I interviewed both of them at the time, and they were both going at each other pretty hard.
And for example, here's I've interviewed Trump as much as anybody, and here's what I think his agenda is.
All right, he named his Supreme Court justices.
That's there.
He's been very clear about energy independence.
That means coal and fracking and drilling and nuclear and new technology.
I've asked him probably 50 times.
He's very clear about getting rid of Obamacare, leaning towards health savings accounts.
He even likes the Penny Plan, which I pushed for years and has talked at length about the need to balance our budget, to fix the VA, to build up our military as a deterrence, to build the wall, to not let in refugees from countries if we can't vet people.
That seems like a pretty conservative, Mike-Lee kind of agenda.
Sure.
And there's a whole lot more in there that I like than I'm ever going to find out of Hillary Clinton, and that's one of the reasons why I maintain we've got to make sure that she's not our president.
And I think there is a path forward here in which Mr. Trump can rally a lot more people behind him if he embraces a conservative reform agenda based on the structural protections of the Constitution, if he becomes an outspoken advocate for the separation of powers.
He talked about that at length in his speech last week.
Were you happy with those remarks?
Yeah, I'm happy that he seems to be talking more in that direction.
The more of that we can hear from him, I think the better off he's going to be.
Because, you know, as I explained in my book, Our Lost Constitution, I think the country has drifted substantially over the last 80 years away from these twin fundamental protections in the Constitution, federalism that tells us to govern locally, and separation of powers, which tells us that Congress is supposed to make the law.
The President is supposed to enforce the law.
Well, that's what the Supreme Court ruled last week on the issue of Obama's illegal, unconstitutional executive amnesty, which, by the way, just like Obamacare, I don't think either one of those issues should have even made it to the courts.
I think Republicans, being timid, they were unwilling to use the power in the purse in both instances, which they would have had the ability to dismantle parts of Obamacare, which would have rendered it impotent.
They would have had the ability to defund the Department of Homeland Security like they promised, and then they passed the Cromnibus Bill.
Don't you think that's led to the rise of people like Trump?
Yes, yes, I do.
And in fact, the arguments you are making lead me to believe you must have been reading our lost Constitution, because these are very similar to the arguments I make in my book, which are that even though it's great when the Supreme Court is able to step in from time to time and say, no, the President overstepped here or there, most of the time it shouldn't get that far.
And most of the time when the Court does that, for every one instance where the Court steps in, there might be 100 that don't get challenged or that for one reason or another have some jurisdictional problem such that they can't make it all the way to the Supreme Court.
Congress has got to start taking the Constitution seriously enough so that Congress itself addresses constitutional issues.
Well, Congress has ceded their power, haven't they?
Yes.
Over the course of the last 80 years, as I explained in my book, Congress has delegated the lawmaking power such that as I explain in our lost Constitution, I've got these two stacks of documents in my office.
One is 80,000 pages long and 11 feet tall.
The other is a few inches tall and a few hundred pages long.
The short stack of documents are the laws passed by Congress last year, the long stack, 80,000 pages.
Those are the federal regulations issued last year.
So Congress is making a lot less law and is impacting the economy a lot less than these executive branch bureaucrats who never stand for election, are not accountable to the people, and yet are making so much of the law that's costing the American people $2 trillion a year, making every one of us poorer, particularly the poor and middle class.
Well, all the numbers bear that out.
I guess what's frustrating to me, I'm trying to understand if Donald Trump has said all these things, why is there this real mysterious resistance towards him?
You know, we saw with the Brexit vote last week in Great Britain there, there certainly is a feeling among Americans that we have been too globally oriented.
I think people look at the last Iraq war and they see, just like Vietnam, we keep politicizing wars.
We send men and women to go fight and die and give up their limbs, and they do it, and they win, and then we literally rob them of their victory again.
And I think, and the issue of trade and some of these other issues, I'm a free trader, but I'm also a fair trader.
And I think Americans are losing jobs because a lot of American companies want to sort of send off their labor costs and reduce them dramatically by sending them to poor countries.
And we don't even get a chance to sell our automobiles in Japan without a really ridiculously high tax.
Right.
And as I reviewed that exit poll data, it was released Friday after the vote, I became more and more convinced that, regardless of what issue people identified as the single most important political issue, the unifying theme behind those who were voting to exit the European Union was that they didn't like where their decisions were being made.
So for some, for instance, it was about immigration.
For others, maybe it was about trade.
For others, it was several issues in combination.
But the unifying theme behind the vote of basically everyone who voted to exit was they didn't like their decisions being made by a centralized, increasingly bureaucratic authority that was not accountable to the people because those making the policy were not ever subject to election.
And so while those are distinct decisions, there are some unifying themes with what we are seeing here in the United States.
The American people are understandably frustrated with the fact that they are increasingly subject to these laws made by unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats, who, as well-intentioned as they might be, will never stand for election.
And so they are not accountable to the people in the same way that members of Congress are.
But for that to work, you've got to have members of Congress who are willing and even eager to exercise their constitutional authority, even when it's difficult.
Well, John Boehner accumulated, while Speaker, nearly $5 trillion in new debt.
That doesn't sound, you know, that's the incredibly shrinking Congress that you talk about, running from their constitutional authority and duty.
But the same was with Obamacare.
The same was with illegal, unconstitutional immigration.
And let's be frank here.
I think the reason that Congress has the lowest approval numbers ever is because they've earned it.
And they've been unwilling to fight.
Their fear and their timidity when it comes to standing on their principles is non-existent.
Well, I think that's right.
And I think it has become too common a theme for members of Congress to care more about their ability to seek and obtain perpetual reelection than they are about performing their constitutional obligation.
The fact is, John, the legislative power is a non-delegable power.
It's something that we're not supposed to be able to delegate to the executive branch.
And that is exactly what we've been doing now for decades.
You look at laws like Obamacare and Dodd-Frank, each of which contained hundreds and hundreds of individual delegations of power to an executive branch agency.
And everything that happens thereafter is in the complete control of the executive branch agency, especially when you've got a Congress that doesn't withhold spending, doesn't withhold funding using Congress's spending power, that becomes an unchecked power within the executive.
Tell me if this is a true perception on my part.
I look at Congress now as more willing to be outspoken against Donald Trump than they are against Hillary or the Obama agenda, true or false.
Well, I wouldn't say that every member of Congress I would say there are certainly some who fit into that category.
And, you know, I certainly think we need to be expressing agreement where agreement is had.
We need to be looking for ways to unify the party whenever we can.
Yeah, I think so.
So tell us about where people can get your book and paperback.
Well, you can buy our lost constitution on Amazon.
You can buy it at Barnes ⁇ Noble.
You can buy it at a number of retail brick-and-mortar locations as well.
But this is an affordable version of this book.
It's cheaper because it's a paperback, but it's a great book.
And it's a book that can help you answer questions, whether it's around the water cooler or around the dinner table.
You can answer questions to people about key provisions of the Constitution that have been neglected.
The book also contains stories telling us where some of these provisions came from, why they're so important, and it contains a detailed analysis of how we can discern whether a particular candidate for federal office, whether somebody running for president or Senate or Congress, believes in the Constitution and is dedicated to restoring it.
Well, I think all those things are important.
To me, I think the agenda of the Republicans ought to be simple.
Stop robbing our kids blind and balance the budget.
Conservative justices, because that's going to impact the country for generations to come.
I like health savings accounts.
Energy independence should be a goal that we should be energy independent in four years.
Education should go back to the states and elimination of common cores secure our borders, fix the VA, which is broken, build up our military, define radical Islam for what it is.
And, you know, I don't think any of these things are hard, but I don't hear anyone articulating that list that simply, and the communication level is very low.
Yeah, I think that happens to some extent.
I think the more we can boil things down to their essence, the better off we will be.
That's one of the reasons why I've chosen to boil things down the way I do, which is to say that almost all of our problems within the federal government today can be traced in one way or another to our refusal to adhere to these twin structural protections in the Constitution.
The vertical protection we call federalism, which tells us to govern locally, and the horizontal protection that we call separation of powers.
Separation of powers, co-equal branches of government.
Anyway, Senator Mike Lee, our lost Constitution, the willful subversion of America's founding document.
