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Wow, what a historic day this is.
Yesterday was with what happened in Britain yesterday.
It was this is epic.
This is how do I say this?
This is a historically hinged moment.
Now, this decision by the British people to leave the 28-member European Union, I am telling you, pay very close attention to this.
I look, I know we tend to be a little American centric as uh as a country.
That's normal.
Every other country is as well.
Uh but of course we're not exceptional if you believe him.
I assume the Brits think they're exceptional, and the so-and-so think they're exceptional.
Well, we are exceptional, but Britain is the first nation now to do so.
This is gonna have massive, enormous consequences, not only for Britain, not only for Europe, but for the entire world and yes, the United States.
Even the New York Times wrote a historic decision shorter reshape the nation's place in the world, rattle the continent, and rock political establishments all throughout the West.
By the way, Hillary, are you paying attention?
We'll get to that in a minute.
Now, what happened here, I know some of you, I talked about it yesterday, and um I've been paying very close attention to it.
I just didn't think there was as much interest in this uh until the vote was coming, uh, so I didn't devote a lot of airtime to it until yesterday.
But British voters defied their leaders.
They defied their international allies.
They defied threats from Obama.
You know, this was the most astounding thing in all of this, just like he tried to influence the Israeli elections.
Listen to Obama's warning prior to this vote.
Well, they're gonna be at the the outside the queue here.
They're gonna be at the back of the bus.
Listen to this.
I think it's fair to say that maybe some point down the line there might be a uh UK U.S. trade agreement, but it's not gonna happen anytime soon because our focus is in negotiating with a big block of the European Union to get a trade agreement done.
And UK is gonna be in the back of the queue.
Not because we don't have a special relationship, but because given the heavy lift on any trade agreement, us having access to a big market with a lot of countries, rather than trying to do piecemeal uh trade agreements, uh, is hugely inefficient.
Now to the subject at hand.
Well, that's enough for now.
Listen, so understand what was happening here.
The same type of fear mongering was being used by British leaders, by the prime minister, by international allies.
Threats from the President of the United States, you're gonna be in the back of the queue.
We're not gonna negotiate any trade deals with you anytime soon.
Uh, scaring British voters.
They tried to scare them.
Some of it probably had some impact, uh, but it did not have the impact that they wanted.
Um, you know, international organizations, labor groups, so-called experts, the media pollsters.
Go back, you know, just four or five weeks ago.
This this was headed in the other directions, which was to remain, not exit.
So Brexit, which is if an abbreviation for British exit from the European Union, it won 5248.
Remarkable victory for the country's anti-EU forces, which not long ago were considered to have little chance of prevailing.
Now, let me explain this.
The the effects are immediate here.
I mean, when when the prime minister came out late in the evening last night, our time, David Cameron, and said, you know, he led the stay with in the EU effort, saying he's gonna resign in October.
And in a fairly gracious, eloquent, predictable speech for an British Prime Minister Cameron said that the nation deserved fresh leadership in the face of this referendum.
That set off an instant contest to replace him, and with former London mayor Boris Johnson, a leading campaigner in the anti-EU campaign, considered now to be the odds-on favorite, by the way, even looks a little bit like Donald Trump will talk about that.
But the vote to leave could mark, I think, a massive turning point, not only in modern British history, but it could become the beginning of the end for the EU altogether, as one paper put it, quote, the loss of Britain is an enormous blow to the credibility of a bloc already under pressure from slow growth, high unemployment, the migrant crisis, Greece's debt woes, and the conflict in the Ukraine.
In addition, the EU is going to lose a major military and diplomatic power within its ranks.
Now, to be clear, nothing is going to change immediately.
Existing trade and immigration rules remaining in place.
The withdrawal process is expected to be complex and somewhat contentious, though the blocks governing treaty, you know, it's effectively limited to two years.
So what happened here is you have a majority of the people.
Now, I hate to say Bernie Sanders is actually right on this.
Donald Trump is right on this.
Bernie Sanders said the Brexit vote shows the global economy is not working.
And this is what I went through in a lot of detail yesterday.
Number one, you see a resurgence in British nationalism.
You see, I would argue that Great Britain is going to be better and stronger in the long term.
The immigration problem in Great Britain is quite real, and it's not just Great Britain, it's all over Europe.
The Islamization of Europe played a very big part in all of this.
You know, for example, all these migrants making their way into Europe, you know, let's say you're in Romania.
You're a Romanian.
You get an EU passport, that means you get to go to Britain.
When you get there, well, you have access to everything.
Their schools, their health care system, which is already overwhelmed, the national, the NIH uh health system, their unemployment, and everything else.
It's an enormous financial burden that was placed on Great Britain.
They're one of the richer countries.
It was pulling Great Britain down.
The security relationship, that's not that's only a scare tactic.
You know, trying to pretend that Britain leaving is going to jeopardize security relationships with France and Germany, this is never going to happen.
Because we have great relationships with all those countries where and we're not even involved with the EU.
But with this collapse here, it is a loss of influence and it is also a rebuke against the idea of globalization, which is, you know, oh, we can outsource all our manufacturing, and the United States is playing a big part in this.
We can be one big world government kumbaya, which is probably ultimately what a lot of these people had in mind.
And the question is, why should better run nations like Great Britain be bearing the brunt of financial responsibility for all of these poorly run nations?
And that means providing for the common defense.
Why should the Brits and the Germans and the French, why are they obligated to bail out Greece?
Or why are they obligated to bail out Spain when their governments screw up so badly?
And what's been happening is massive amounts of money have been taken out of Britain in fees and regulations to take care of all these weaker and poorly run nations.
And it takes away the incentive from them to improve themselves.
Weak countries were dragging down strong countries.
So the EU now threatens, was a threat to British sovereignty, and it was stopped.
It was stopped right there.
It's sort of like John Lennon's fantasy.
That's why Obama and Hillary were both supportive of it.
Imagine there's no countries.
It's not hard to do, nothing to kill or die for, no religion too.
Imagine all the people living life in peace.
No, it's utter nonsense.
Because it's detached from a reality of how humans actually live their lives and develop their loyalties.
We pledge allegiance to Nations, not transnational entities.
We pledge allegiance to the United States, not the United Nations.
The British should pledge loyalty, not to the EU, but to Great Britain.
And so it's a big step for their sovereignty.
Now, another thing you got to pay attention to, the Daily Mail today raises a lot of pretty fascinating questions.
You know, a sign of things to come in November for America, they ask.
Donald Trump congratulates the UK for their independence.
He happened to be in Scotland today.
Obama and Hillary begin their fear mongering immediately and instantaneously.
You got London and its first Muslim mayor, they want London now to break away.
And ISIS in the meantime is threatening more attacks as Europe and their borders are so porous.
That's another big part of it.
And that's going to play a part here in our elections.
So anyway, as I um as I analyze this, you have the majority of voters decide to leave immigration, globalization, loss of jobs, Islamization, all contributing factors to what happened here.
You want to know the driving force of this revolt, that's it.
Anxiety about immigration.
You know, Britain's freedom from Brussels, that's a big part of it.
Britain's ability to stop mass immigration.
You know, anybody in Europe that gets that's part of the EU and these 28 countries is free access to to go to Great Britain and immediately take advantage of everything Britain has to offer as one of a few of the more wealthy nations that are involved in this.
Anyway, Cameron had no effective response on how to limit the influx of migration.
So all of the things we're dealing with here were the issues at hand in Great Britain.
You know, if the the left side was warning that the remaining would produce uncontrolled immigration.
That's exactly what's happening.
For example, you've got hordes pouring into Britain from Turkey.
Well, Turkey's a country that is seventy-seven, you know, that has seventy-seven million Muslims that borders Syria and Iraq.
They want to join the European Union.
So the EU increasingly is being weighed down by all these failures to deal fully with this secession crisis, the financial collapse, you know, to a resurgent Russia, a huge influx of migrants, many from Muslim countries.
And what happened is these values, like if you grow up in the Sharia, how many times have I said there's a culture conflict, a conflict of civilizations?
You grow up in the Sharia, you want to come to America, but you grew up thinking you can tell women how to dress, and telling women whether they can go to school or work, telling women they can't drive.
Women are treated horribly.
No religious freedom.
Well, do people from these countries want to come here for freedom and liberty and a new way of life and assimilate, or do they want to bring their life with them?
And that means indoctrinate us and create a theocracy here and proselytize here, and they bring their radicalism with them.
Do they think, you know, gays and lesbians ought to be executed?
Do they think women are third class citizens?
And what happened with the EU, I mean, in no part is related to immigration and Islamization.
It's also become a bureaucratic monstrosity with enormous power, no accountability, no legitimacy, and the British people want Britain to remain Britain again.
And now it will be.
Now, the decision here, I will tell you it is a stunning rebuke and defeat for Obama and Hillary Clinton.
They both wanted Britain to stay in the EU.
But the the they threatened the British people, what would happen if they left, which was only fear mongering by the left.
But anyway, it uh this whole statement of Obama, well, they're going to the back of the queue.
I mean the back of the line from the perspective of the U.S. Now, the British people in their very polite way yesterday showed Obama their middle finger.
And the great British historian, Andrew Roberts, actually incensed by what Obama did, said, uh, surely, surely, this is an issue of which the British people and they alone have the right to decide without the intervention of President Obama, who adopted his haughtiest professional manner when lecturing us to stay in the EU before making the naked threat that they would be sent to the back of the queue.
Pretty funny.
In any future trade deals if we had the temerity to vote to leave.
Well, was my country at the back of the line when Winston Churchill promised in 1941 that in the event of a Japanese attack on the U.S. that a British declaration of war on Japan would be made within the hour.
That's how close we are.
We're at the back of the line on 9-11, or did Great Britain step forward and instinctively at the very first, being the very first ally to contribute troops to join the expulsion of the Taliban, Al Qaeda's host from power in Afghanistan.
That's our relationship with Great Britain or Iraq two years later in 2003.
It wasn't the French, wasn't the Germans, it wasn't the Belgians who stood and fought and bled beside American soldiers.
It was the British.
So it really was never right for the president to threaten to send them to the back of the queue.
It's really wrong to threaten them.
And it backfired.
And by the way, it was a threat that he could never fulfill anyway.
Thank God we're counting down the days till he leaves.
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You know, the Brexit leader, this is great.
I love this, literally said earlier today that Obama's threat to retaliate against Britain.
Well, we're gonna put you in the back of the queue.
Left the if it left the EU literally pushed to leave supporters over the top.
Nigel Farage, who's been on this program a number of times, leader of the UK independence party, one of the biggest pro-Brexit leaders in the country, said during his victory lap this morning that Obama's intervention to stop Brexit actually helped it.
A few weeks ago, while Obama was in England, he said during the press conference, I'm gonna put you in the back of the queue.
Well, here's the most powerful man in the world coming from a country that we've always had a huge high regard for, and a lot of people in Britain said, How dare an American president come here and tell us what to do?
And it backfired, and I think we got an Obama Brexit bounce because people don't want foreign leaders telling them how to think and how to vote.
Same thing happened in Israel.
I mean, Obama literally had his own team on the ground trying to undermine Bibi Netanyahu.
All did was motivate the Israelis to keep Bibi Netanyahu.
Worked out great.
Um, France and Italy now.
This is interesting.
Voters in France, Italy, the Netherlands are demanding their own votes on the European Union membership in the Euro, as the continent faces now a contagion of referendums.
UE leaders uh fear a string of copycat polls could tear down the organization, which I think would be a good thing.
I really do.
The Daily Mail foreshadows Trump victory in November.
Now, this is an interesting analysis.
As Donald Trump flew into Scotland today after the UK's seismic break with the European Union, parallels have been drawn with the anti-immigration message that led to Brexit and his rise to presumptive Republican presidential candidate.
Many have pointed out the similarities between Britain's decision to leave the EU and Trump's campaign, and they believe it's an indication of how Americans will vote on November the eighth, which could see Trump in the White House.
I agree with this analysis.
Because I'm going to tell you something.
Hillary Clinton wanting a 550% increase, 550% increase in refugees, even though our CIA director, FBI director, assistant FBI director, National Director of Intelligence, House Homeland Security Committee Chairman.
Let's see, who else?
Our former special envoy to defeat ISIS all say that what happened in Brussels, what happened in Paris can happen here, and that they're warning that yes, ISIS will infiltrate the refugee population.
Anyway, today uh promise to keep close ties between the U.S. and the UK if he becomes president.
And uh a Trump administration pledges to strengthen our ties with a free and independent Britain, deepening our bonds in culture, commerce, and mutual defense.
Let's play Trump when he was in Scotland earlier today.
How would a Trump administration approach the Brexit should you be elected president?
And is Scotland voted 6238 to remain, should Scotland leave the UK, as many people are talking about.
I think I see a big parallel.
I think people really I think people really see a big parallel.
A lot of people are talking about that, and not only the United States but other countries.
People want to take their country back.
They want to have independence in a sense.
And uh you see it with Europe all over Europe.
You're gonna have more than just, in my opinion, more than just what happened uh last night.
You're gonna have, I think many other cases where they want to take their borders back, they want to take their uh their monetary back, they want to take a lot of things back.
They want to be able to have a country again.
So I think you're gonna have this happen uh more and more.
I've really believed that, and I think it's happening in the United States.
It's happening by the fact that I've done so well in the polls.
I I really do see a parallel between what's happening in the United States and what hat what's happening here.
People want to see borders.
Uh they don't necessarily want people pouring into their country that they don't know who they are and where they come from, they have no idea.
And I think, you know, it it not only did it win, but it won by a much bigger margin than people thought it would happen.
Wow, that's pretty that's pretty profound.
Now, Donald Trump praised Cameron's likely successor.
Some say it's a Trump look alike.
It's actually, because he's kind of got wild hair like Donald Trump does, but anyway, uh he praised the likely successor to British Prime Minister David Cameron, uh, who will resign in November, and the man expected to replace Cameron as a guy by the name of Boris Johnson.
Not only shares Trump's approval of Brexit, he's uh a dead ringer a little bit for Trump himself.
But anyway, the telegraph reported that Trump has described the Brexit vote as beautiful, a beautiful thing, has praised Boris Johnson for reading the public mood better than David Cameron, who promised there would be zero impact on the special relationship if he becomes the president of the United States.
That's huge.
Now, where's Hillary in all of this?
Hillary Clinton wakes up this morning and she finds herself like Obama on the wrong side of Brexit.
She sides with elites who've opposed Brexit.
And they got just got tossed out on their ear.
And Donald Trump celebrated the vote as a great thing.
Proof that the United Kingdom's voters have taken back their country by abandoning the shackles of the European Union.
The reaction from Hillary Clinton's campaign is this.
By the way, we respect the choice of the people of the United Kingdom have made.
She released.
Our first task is has to be to make sure that the economic uncertainty created by these events does not hurt American working families.
By the way, don't worry, Hillary.
Next to the economic uncertainty of the Obama economy, Brexit will be a piece of cake.
And like most global leaders, Clinton expressed her support for the remain camp throughout the referendum.
But what are the issues here?
The issues are what I have discussed in detail.
They're all the same.
A resurgence in British nationalism.
Americans are tired of sending their sons and daughters to fight wars that Hillary Clinton votes for and then abandons the war effort once the political poles and wins shift.
That's what Hillary Clinton did.
You know, look, I think it was the right thing to go into Iraq and Afghanistan.
I'm I'm proud of what our military accomplished.
They won the war.
The surge worked.
We took Mosul, Ramadi, Baghdad, Fallujah, to Crete, and the rest of the entire country was secure.
That was 2009.
Well, unfortunately, the world changed when Barack Obama became president and Hillary became the Secretary of State.
Next thing that happened is they made dumb decisions.
They gave a pull-out date in Iraq.
That created a vacuum that ISIS filled.
They never held true to their promise on the red line in the sand in Syria.
Well, that spread death, destruction, and terrorism.
That created ISIS.
That created the avenue to for ISIS.
Same thing in Libya.
You know, Libya was absolutely fine until Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama get into office.
Libya was actually, you know, had promised the Bush administration they would not pursue nuclear weapons.
They were allowing inspections to make sure that they were upholding their promise.
You know, so now we same thing.
They end up supporting the Arab Spring and the and the Muslim Brotherhood coming to power in Egypt.
This is a guy that's part of a terrorist organization.
And their response was to help undermine the previous President Mubarak and put in place Mohammed Morsi.
Okay, he's former head of the Muslim Brotherhood, a terrorist organization, referring to Jews as descendants of apes and pigs.
We gave him F-16s and we gave him tanks and we gave him a billion dollars.
Hillary started the negotiations with Nakmedijat at the time, even though they lied to us and denied it.
She was a part of that stupidity.
She's the one responsible for the Russian reset.
Putin has nothing but contempt for Hillary and Obama and has pledged to work with Iran and build missile defense, so if we ever want to take out or need to take out their nuclear facilities, we won't be able to do so.
So, you know, you look at every single area of the Middle East and the world has been destabilized because they have no clue about the world.
Just like here.
They don't understand radical Islamic terrorism is the problem in Orlando and the problem in San Bernardino.
They'd rather take away your second amendment rights to defend yourself if God forbid you ever find yourself in a situation like that.
Their mentality is let's not create a safe zone in Syria for victims of a civil war.
No, we can't do that.
By the way, how compassionate America would be willing, Trump is willing to create a safe zone.
That means a military safe zone with our allies, protecting innocent men, women, and children.
We'll give them food and water, medicine, cots, supplies, baby formula, or anything else they need inside of Syria or inside of Jordan, or inside of any area we can find for them, and then they can go back to their home country when the civil war ends.
Go back to their homes.
But no, they have to take them into the United States.
Ignore the admonitions and warnings of our top intelligence officials and the intelligence community that ISIS will infiltrate.
They'll gamble with your lives.
It's really insane.
Let's see, Mike Huckabee weighed in on this, and he's applauded the Brexit vote, slamming Hillary.
That's his words, not mine.
And he referred to Hillary as Hillary in a statement cheering Britain's vote to leave the EU.
And he argued in a post on his website that the British exit, Brexit, that vote was a foreshadowing of what will likely happen in November, because it's the exact same thing.
You know, it's it's Hillary wants to build bridges and not a border wall.
Well, that means that creates security issues because more and more Middle Eastern men are crossing the Mexican border.
That also means that more and more Americans are competing with illegal immigrants for jobs when we have ninety-five million Americans out of the labor force and 50 million in poverty and 46 million on food stamps.
That means they'll compete for limited jobs because the economy hasn't turned around, and it drives down wages because illegal immigrants will work for lower pay.
It's going to impact so many Americans in so many different ways.
And Bernie Sanders of all people gets it.
And he says this vote shows a global economy's not working.
Well, it's not working for workers in Pennsylvania.
It's not working for the folks in New Jersey.
It's not working for the people in Wisconsin.
It's not working for the people of Michigan, Detroit, which is single-handedly been destroyed.
How sad is it that Ford is going to build a Mexican plant and then literally bring their products to America?
Those cars should be built in America.
And if China has access to our markets and Japan has access to our markets, they ought to offer our products to their citizens.
Because I think they would find American cars as a product they'd want to buy.
And we can keep Americans working.
Blue collar Americans have been screwed over royally by all of this.
It's unbelievable.
By the way, another reason probably that Bernie Sanders, that's why what, 55% of Bernie's supporters, say they're not voting for Hillary.
I think on this issue, blue-collar workers, they want jobs.
They want the economy fixed.
I think most Americans see the danger in robbing our future generations blind the way Democrats are doing it.
It's time to stand up.
It's time to build a border.
And yes, you can't have a president ignore coequal branches of government and separation of powers and dictate laws the way this president has.
And the Supreme Court upheld the Fifth Circuit yesterday.
I mean it's his illegal, unconstitutional, executive amnesty stops.
Hillary, she wants a 550% increase in refugees.
Well, when one American gets killed, that's blood on her hands and Obama's hands.
If one American's gonna die, that's not the price is too high for me.
I think it's fair to say that maybe some point down the line there might be a uh UK, U.S. trade agreement, but it's not gonna happen anytime soon because our focus is in negotiating with a big block of the European Union to get a trade agreement done.
And UK is gonna be in the back of the queue.
Not because we don't have a special relationship, but because given the heavy lift on any trade agreement, us having access to a big market with a lot of countries rather than trying to do piecemeal uh trade agreements uh is hugely inefficient.
Now to the subject at hand, obviously the United States is in a different hemisphere, different circumstances, has different sets of relationships uh with its neighbors than the UK does.
But I can tell you this.
If right now I've got access to a massive market where I sell 44% of my exports, and now I'm thinking about leaving the organization that gives me access to that market, and that is responsible for millions of jobs in my country and responsible for uh an enormous amount of commerce and upon which a lot of businesses depend.
Um that's not something I probably do.
He didn't stop it at the water's edge because he made statements about uh this incredible part of the world, and that this particular country and frankly a large group of countries should do.
I mean, he's he's constantly dictating to the world what they should do.
The world doesn't listen to him, obviously you can see that by the vote, but he's constantly dictating to other countries.
So, you know, certainly it doesn't stop at the water's edge with him.
And, you know, very importantly, he got it totally wrong.
And he's embarrassed.
I mean, he's embarrassed by the Supreme Court decision yesterday, which was a real rebuke, and he's very embarrassed by he got involved.
I don't know if that was through a friendship with David Cameron.
It could have been, and I understand friendship, and I can understand why he did it.
I can understand that, but I think it's something he shouldn't have done.
It's not his country, it's not his part of the world.
He shouldn't have done it.
And I actually think that his recommendation perhaps caused it to fail.
Wow, powerful remarks today in Scotland by Donald Trump.
Now, go back to the original statement of Obama.
Well, you know, we're not gonna be negotiating uh trade agreements with Great Britain, our our number one ally and supporter.
We're not gonna do that anytime soon.
They're gonna be in the back of the queue.
In other words, they'll be in the back of the bus.
We're not gonna rush to help or accommodate them.
And Obama involves themselves once again, another epic fail for Obama and for Hillary.
And also just like he tried to influence the Israeli elections.
What seems now to be happening and the impact that that this Brexit uh leave by the people of Great Britain is going to have on people's mentality.
There's a lot going on here and what impact it's going to have on our own elections in November is yet to be determined.
But there's no doubt that the resurgence in British nationalism, we're seeing something very similar unfold here in the United States, and that is against globalism, against world trade, against you know jobs being lost all across the spectrum.
Immigration issue has been in Great Britain quite real.
They now have eighty-eight Sharia courts in Great Britain.
Um I think this in the end this is going to make things better and make Great Britain stronger in the long term I think all these scare tactics that Obama and others were using that was that was done directly that was sent a shot across the bow that oh we're we're not gonna help you.
We're not gonna make extra agreements for you.
Now I actually hope the U EU collapses.
I hope for a lot of different reasons.
Why should better run nations be financially responsible for poorly run nations sort of goes against Obama's kumbaya world government mentality that he has and uh two each according to his need.
Remember he talked about America waste more money in a day if we could feed in a cruise ship the you know population a port of prince.
What was he talking about there?
That's all redistribution.
And if you believe in redistribution in this country, well why not redistribute the wealth?
Why isn't it fair to redistribute it to every country?
There's no belief in any sovereignty.
Anyway, joining us now Rahim Kassam he is the editor in chief of Breitbart News in London, their bureau Jessica Vaughn is the director of policy studies at the Center for Immigration Studies and I think the UK made a powerful statement today saying they want control of their borders uh and freedom from the EU.
Many of the same issues we're debating here.
Uh Rahim why don't you tell us in the lead up to this there are a lot of scare tactics used by a lot of different people ends in with Cameron actually getting out as the Prime Minister but uh tell us what the real issues were for the people of Britain.
Yeah hi Sean um well of course we've had a uh monumental vote today and the run up to it was really marred by a lot of uh what we call project fear tactics over here and and what really became project threat tactics.
This was the this was the establishment this was the big banks this was the big government uh organizations the big you know longstanding politicians um the trades unions all coming together to say to Britain uh if you don't do as we say if you don't do as we direct you just like Mr. Obama did also then your lives are going to be made a misery.
You may find yourself in economic uncertainty.
You may find yourself in the depths of recession.
You may find yourself in the midst of World War three, we were even told at one point and what seems to have happened is that they've overplayed their hand in such a massive way that the British public kicked back and it it kicked the Prime Minister out.
The most extraordinary circumstances we're seeing here in Britain today.
It's amazing set of circumstances.
I saw this coming I said yesterday I thought this was how the vote was going to turn out Jessica look you have done a lot of terrific work as the director of policy studies for the Center of Immigration Studies.
There is no doubt the migrant population issue and the lack of borders in the EU contributed greatly to the people deciding to leave, correct?
Correct.
There is no doubt that immigration was and and concern over immigration, high immigration numbers and the fact that immigration has been out of control is what motivated so many people in uh in the UK to take this step and that's what is motivating so many voters to support Donald Trump in in on the US side you know we've seen here the arrival of three million new immigrants in the United States in just the last two years according to the Census Bureau
and uh Americans are feeling the impact in their communities um they're concerned about national security They know that our economy is not creating enough jobs for the people who are here already, and uh they're concerned about the direction of our country and about especially the fact that they have had no say in this transformative level of immigration and want a candidate who is signaling clearly that the k that they're going to turn this around.
Uh and and so our political elites really need to heed this warning and take a a good look in the mirror, and uh and I'd like to see uh the Republican leadership in Congress, for example, put together a program of um planned legislation that will reassure American voters that um in you know conjunction with the president that they're gonna reverse direction on immigration in particular and uh do something different,
uh do something that uh voters want to see happen rather than pursuing the I would argue look, I think Great Britain's problem with immigration is even worse than ours, and I think ours is pretty darn bad and three million people, new immigrants in two years.
I'm not even sure if that number actually includes the number of illegals that continue to cross our border, but it is both legal and illegal.
Okay.
So but but the most important thing here is for example, if you're a member of the European Union and you're Great Britain, okay, let's say you are Romanian and let's say you became you came from the Middle East, okay, you get an EU passport, you can go to Britain.
And when you get there, you have access to the schools, the health care system, which is already overwhelmed, unemployment and so much else.
So the financial burden on them was even greater.
But the same thing is happening here.
You see it in border states like Arizona and Texas and California, where the impact, the the billions of dollars that have been spent on illegal immigrants for a criminal justice system or health care system or educational system, it is so overwhelmed people that you know taxpayers cannot afford to pay this anymore.
That's right, and that's what motivated these twenty-six states to file a lawsuit against the President's executive amnesty is because they knew darn well that they were the ones and their taxpayers going to be the ones that had to pick up the tab for this uh reckless decision uh because the people who were being legalized are are are not self-sufficient and going to be dependent on publicly funded welfare services, and it just gets too expensive.
Um and it it diminishes services for Americans who are also needy.
So it's unsustainable, and you can't find an economist in this country that thinks that we have a shortage of unskilled labor.
And you know, so the the job market impacts, the fiscal impacts, and the security problems created by mass immigration are just becoming too much, and voters have had enough.
And Hillary wants a five hundred and fifty percent increase even over what Obama wants as it relates to the Syrian refugees and other refugees coming into the country in spite of every top national security intelligence officer warning that ISIS will infiltrate that population.
Let me go back to you, Rahim, because I think this is really important for people to understand.
Uh was it about the money?
Was it more about the immigration?
Was it you know, how are the people what was the thought process of the people that were for the Brexit?
Well, they tried to make it about the money.
The establishment tried to make it about the economy, about people's jobs, threatening their livelihoods.
They even commissioned a report from our own treasury to say that people would be three thousand pounds less well off a year if they voted to leave the European Union.
But effectively it came down to the following things the idea of nationhood, the idea of having a sovereign country, the idea of being able to control your own borders.
And of course, as you mentioned earlier, one of the major parts of that, constituent parts of that, control of the borders, is that people are unable to get appointments to see their doctors in this country.
We have a massive shortage of primary school places in this country, and we have a net migration of three hundred and thirty thousand people a year when the government is telling us repeatedly, election after election, that we're gonna bring this down beneath a hundred thousand a year.
So people exercise the fact that they were fed up of being told something five years ago, ten years ago, fifteen years ago, and it never ever happening.
And whether or not people want to blame the European Union for the fact that these things are happening.
I perhaps would, for instance, but there are arguments against it.
Whether or not that is the case, this is the main thrust behind the leave campaign.
They have seized on the European Union as this entity that encourages open borders, as this entity that takes twelve billion pounds out of the British taxpayer pocket every year and follows it around Europe into these little projects that keep all these smaller satellite states tied into a broader union.
Well, let me ask the bigger question because at your election.
You know, I had these big fights with Anjam Chowdery, the the radical Islamic uh Imam uh that have really gone viral, but uh he said he supported Romain and he said the EU courts are softer on his Islamic friends.
Uh isn't that everything you need to know about Brexit?
And is it the issue of radical law?
Well, and and let me ask let me just add this point.
Isn't the issue of the Islamization of Europe and in particular the impact of conflicting cultures also at the heart of this?
So this is what the this is what the Remain campaign is couldn't seem to get their heads around last night as the results were rolling in.
Places like Bradford and Birmingham and Luton, very heavily uh Muslim populated areas, voted to leave.
The reason for that is people are seeing their cultures and their communities diluted.
People are seeing the Islamification of their communities, and they are fighting back against that.
They don't just hold the European Union accountable, but they hold the idea that we should be a member of the European Union accountable.
It's tied in to this sort of one world globalist argument.
Um that that you can dilute people, uh, get massive.
I think that's a good point.
And and let me go back to Jessica because of the constraints of time, but Jessica, I mean, you know, you have people that if you grow up under Sharia, those values that you believe in are in direct conflict with our democratic republic and our constitutional values.
Um how do we know I don't know.
Well, I I I agree there's no reconciling, so how do you know if somebody comes here because they want the freedom that we have, or do they want to proselytize and create their own theocracy here, which, by the way, is taught in Islam.
Well, it's that's hard to predict, and that's why we need need to take another look at our immigr our legal immigration policies uh as well, so that we can uh decide whether our immigration policy is able to keep us safe or not.
And and we certainly shouldn't be admitting radical imams who are gonna set up shop in so many communities and have the ability to proselytize.
But should we let anybody in from uh a country that supports Sharia if we can't possibly vet their motivation?
We ha uh we can't vet the motivation.
What we need to do is is make it less likely that we're going to admit someone like that by reducing the numbers overall, but in particular with countries like Syria where we know we can't do any vetting whatsoever, and ISIS is promising to infiltrate that flow.
We need to shut it down until such time as we can have a better determination.
I I am skeptical that we'll ever hit that point.
Um, you know, we need to find a way to help Syrians without putting our own communities at risk, and and then that can be done.
It can be done.
Yeah, I gotta run.
But I I uh listen, you both have been terrific on this.
I really, really appreciate it.
How do you respond to the president's response to the Supreme Court today?
Well, first, uh Gretchen as a reminder, uh I filed that lawsuit that the Supreme Court ruled upon today.
It was my last act as attorney general before becoming governor.
But I find what the President said to be insulting uh and and to be uh misrepresentative of what is really taking place because he talked about immigration and people who may not look like others.
Here's the reality.
Uh uh America's always stood for legal immigration.
What the president was doing was facilitating illegal immigration.
The President's job is to enforce the law, not write the law, as the President himself admitted, uh he violated the Constitution.
He said twenty times he did not have the authority to rewrite the law, but yet he acted as a king and rewrote it himself because he could not get Congress to do what he wanted them to do.
Yeah, I was just gonna say that he actually admitted to the fact that he wasn't able to do that legally, but he did it instead.
But today he went back to what he has always said, which is that Congress left him with no choice, that he that he simply had to do it.
And how do you respond to that?
If that is his position, if that's the position of Hillary Clinton or anybody who runs for president, they are telling you they are willing to abdicate the Constitution.
They're willing to violate the Constitution in order to fulfill their own political agenda.
Uh, Gretchen, we have a constitution.
The President has to follow.
Congress has to follow.
You and I have to follow.
And it and it sends a bad message to all Americans, especially those who want to come to this country that it's okay to not follow the law, to not follow the Constitution.
The President has to follow it.
He does not have the authority to write the law.
That is Congress's responsibility.
All right, that's the governor of the great state of Texas.
He was the Attorney General.
I want to just set the table here.
I don't want to ignore the real significance of the Supreme Court decision yesterday, the 4-4 tie effectively blocking Obama's illegal, unconstitutional executive amnesty.
He sought to shield millions of people in this country from deportation.
The Texas led 26 Republican-dominated states and challenging the program.
And Obama announced this in 2014.
Republicans in Congress, they were weak and timid and wouldn't defund it, so it took the courts, but when they tried the courts uh and and abdicated their responsibility in Obamacare, that didn't work out as well as this did.
Well, he's now the governor.
He was the attorney general at the time.
Greg Abbott is with us.
How are you, Governor?
How are you?
Thank you so much for what you did here.
Uh well, thank you, Sean.
Great to be back with you again.
It's a huge, huge blow to Obama's illegal unconstitutional action.
You know what bothers me more than anything in this case, though?
I've got a tape of the president twenty, twenty-five times saying he did not have the authority to do this.
And then he did it anyway.
So he doesn't really care about the Constitution.
That's my that's my conclusion after listening to it.
It demonstrates the crisis we're in in our country right now.
Remember this.
Uh, this is not the only issue on which he's done this.
He did the very same thing with regard to the clean power plan trying to use the EPA to cram down his global warming agenda in the United States, and it was the very week that Justice Scalia passed away that the Supreme Court put a hold on that particular issue.
And so this is uh uh uh recidivist behavior on on the part of this president, uh, repeatedly saying if Congress will not act, if Congress will not write a law the way that I want it written, then he is going to write it himself.
That turns the Constitution on its head.
It is necessary, not just for attorneys general, it's necessary for Congress.
It's necessary for all Americans uh that we have a lot of people.
But Congress did not be honorable to follow the laws.
You did the right thing.
You had the courage of your convictions.
Republicans in Congress, they said, oh, give us the Senate.
We'll we'll defund executive amnesty.
Well, they got the Senate in 2014.
That was their main promise, and they backed down.
That troubles me almost as much as Obama being so willing to to not follow the Constitution and the rule of law.
Well, i i is we we will not always have the luxury of being able to have some backstop, such as attorneys general come forward and file lawsuits.
Among other things, sometimes uh the the courts dismiss our lawsuits uh as though we don't have standing or the grounds uh to bring a lawsuit to begin with.
And so we do have to have people in Washington, D.C. with a backbone uh who are going to hold uh the executive branch of government accountable.
And if you go back to Alexander Hamilton, he said the most powerful tool any government has is the power of the purse.
And Congress needs to start exercising its power of the purse to hold this president accountable.
Well, I think you did a great job.
I think, you know, the fact that you led this effort and was successful.
But you're right.
I mean, the courts oftentimes say there's no standing, you get a liberal judge or justice, you get yourself in trouble, and it's frustrating that Republicans have been so timid.
I can give you one example, and that is Texas sued uh for recovery uh of all the money, more than billions of dollars that we have spent uh to secure the border, uh, to educate people who are in this country illegally, to provide health care for them uh for those who are in the country illegally.
This is coming out of Texas taxpayer dollars, and we wanted the federal government to cover the cost, and the court threw the case uh out of court, saying we didn't have the legal authority to assert such a claim.
Yeah.
Well, you really should considering it's impacting your bottom line as uh as a state.
And look, I was down there with Governor Perry, your predecessor, and and six hundred and twenty-five thousand crimes committed against Texans in an eight-year period of time.
I sat through the briefing that Obama should have sat through, and it's frustrating.
Let me ask you a very maybe off-topic question.
You saw Brexit and this big vote in Great Britain last night and yesterday.
I keep reading Every once in a while, I'm just doing my research, that there is a secession effort in Texas.
What are your thoughts on that?
Do you think it ever gets to the point that the good people of Texas and their values of freedom separate themselves from the United States and go on their own?
Kennedy Sean, what I think is that uh what Texans believe in is that uh we need the United States to be more like Texas.
In fact, I believe America longs to be uh the way that Texas is, and we need Texas brand and Governor, I'm I'm gonna tell you, I'm up in New York, and I'd rather be a Texan.
Right.
Well, there are Sean Hannities across this country, and all we gotta do is have the backbone to stand up and steer this country back on the horizon.
I I could I could talk till I'm blue in the face, I'll be dead.
There's no way New York is ever going red.
It's not gonna happen.
And he even even if New York doesn't go red.
Uh Sean, you know this, and that is uh there are at least 30, maybe more than 30 uh Republican states uh that r are run by Republican conservative legislatures in this country right now.
Uh we have the people, uh we have the power, we just need to have the will of power to get this done.
But we we can do it, and we Texas will take the leadership role, just like we did in this case against Barack Obama to ensure that we steer this country back on the right course.
And you you brought you brought up Brexit.
Listen, this is something that's going on not just in the United States, this is something that's going on across the entire globe, and there's a reason for it, and that is because sovereignty is a key component of a nation, and we've seen the United States, we've seen uh Great Britain, we've seen countries in Europe sacrifice their sovereignty, and we've seen the way their citizens have suffered because of it.
Uh asserting sovereignty of a state, of a nation is essential, and that is what America must do to put our country back on the right track.
Governor uh Governor, I want to thank you for leading this effort and the other twenty-six Republican dominated states for challenging this and winning.
You did us a great service.
Thank you, sir.
You're a great American.
Thank you, Sean.
800-941 Sean, toll free telephone number, you want to be a part of the program.
Janice is in Tampa, Florida, on 970 AM WFLA.
What's up, uh, how are you, uh Janice?
Sean, I'm doing this great.
I initially called up to tell you a couple of days ago that the um the reason Donald Trump is not taking money from people, not asking for peep money from people, is because um he doesn't want to be beholden to anybody, but then we're on the Brexit thing now, and I just want you to know that this gives me hope that the rest of the world is finally getting it.
You know, Piers Morgan, I I actually met the guy, he's a pretty nice guy, and I interviewed him once.
I was once competing well, it wasn't competition.
Uh, but uh, you know, he actually put out a warning today to Hillary.
And he said that if she ignores this Brexit vote and what it means for America's presidential campaign, she'll do so at her own peril.
I agree with him.
And if it can happen in Britain, it can definitely happen in America, because the issues are the same.
Absolutely has the cheerleaders for change are are not that dissimilar.
Boris Johnson and Donald Trump have both focused with laser-like ruthless precision on hot button issues that they know people are genuinely worried about.
Immigration and terrorism.
He's right.
Yeah, absolutely.
And like our incredible, incredible liberal media, I mean, uh and Tampa, now we only have one newspaper.
It is the most nauseating thing.
I mean, it is the most nauseating Trump bashing paper I have ever seen, ever in my life.
So, you know, pe but but there are people that I know in the city who are fed up and are ready, you know, to take back America.
They really are.
Yeah.
Well, listen, I uh I think this is a sign.
I don't think I don't think the president, I don't think Hillary have any clue at the impact of their policies and how bad they have been on the world and on this country.
And I think I I honestly've gotta believe that we've suffered enough now not to continue down this road, and that's my hope and prayer.
Anyway, thank you, Janice.
Appreciate it.
800 941 Sean, you want to be a part of the program.
Uh Donna in Staten Island, our friend Donald is listening to the all new AM seven ten W O R. How are you?
I'm good.
How are you?
What's going on?
I'm good.
I am I'm very happy about Brexit.
I was so excited.
I actually woke up in the middle of the night and put the TV on and saw that, and I was like nudging my husband going, guess what?
Guess what?
I was thrilled.
I was absolutely thrilled.
You know what?
You really know you're a news junkie.
Because I kept waking up in the middle of the night and I'm watching Nicole Petalides on the Fox Business Network and Sky News, and I'm I'm going all over the place.
You know, you see the the Prime Minister Cameron resigned, then I saw an interview with Tony Blair, who is so flustered.
He's a very articulate guy, but he was pretty flustered in this interview.
Um I thought was very encouraging for those of us who support Trump because you just can't believe those polls.
I I I tell everybody when was the last time you participated in a poll?
So God bless you.
Always love to hear your voice.
Uh Richard is in Twin Falls, Idaho.
Richard, hi.
How are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Brother Sean.
Yes.
Yes.
My Irish.
Five-year-old girl that got raped here in Twin Falls by uh Muslim refugees that are living over here in the refugee relocation center.
You know, I'm noticing that there's a media blackout on this.
What you said about what the crime that they committed.
They urinated on this girl.
They videotaped this.
She's only five years old.
And the father, who is not five years old, high-byed his son for a great performance with his video, and I guess the act itself.
They have now been evicted, all three families.
They're out of that.
Are they out of the out of the housing area?
How about out of the country?
Well, that would be lovely.
But the two the two boys that were held in a juvenile uh lockup, they've been released yesterday.
Uh Linda told me the care.
Uh remember, they were the unindicted co-conspirator group in the Holy Land Foundation case, that they're going to assume the legal cost for this.
Um why what are they defending here?
And this now goes to the whole heart of the refugee population issue and our I keep warning, I keep naming all the intelligence officials saying, don't take refugees in.
We can't vet them.
ISIS will infiltrate.
And I keep saying if one American dies, uh that blood is on Obama and Hillary's hands.
Hillary wants a 550% increase in taking in refugees into the country.
Look, I actually think watching Brexit, I think this is going to have a profound impact.
And people are gonna wake up come September, October, November, and they're gonna realize Hillary is so far out of touch with where this country is politically that it has the potential to be an overwhelming victory.
And I hope and pray that that scenario unfolds.
Listen, I want to say something.
I am I'm s I apologize to the people of Idaho.
It is a disgrace that the media in this country has literally ignored the score the story of this girl.
We played the the 89-year-old woman that was an eyewitness to this horrible, horrible crime, and yet I don't see it anywhere in the media because it doesn't fit their narrative.
It doesn't fit the narrative of the candidate they support.
And as a result, most people haven't even heard about this story.
It's beyond frustrating.
That's what I mean when I say we have an abusively biased news media in the country.
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We are not afraid.
We are not afraid to live.
Amen.
The gentleman is afraid to vote and afraid to debate.
And given the weakness of his arguments and his position, his fear is well founded.
And today it's time for a real debate on these issues.
Mr. Pope.
If you will come talking about Islam, radical Islam.
No fly, no gun.
No, it's not.
No, no, no, it's not no gun.
No, no, no, no!
That's it for getting a gun!
He's a radical extremist.
Why do you want to let terrorists buy a gun?
Why do you want to protect terrorists from buying a gun?
You going to stop?
Why do you want to let terrorists provide a gun?
Okay, oh my God.
Why do you want to let terrorists buy a gun?
Okay, no way.
Why are you protecting Terry?
All right, that of course unfolding on the House floor earlier this week, the occupied DC Democrats, petulant crybaby Democrats, oddly, strangely, bizarrely blaming guns for what happened in Orlando, not a radical Islamic ideology committed to killing every man, women, woman, and child that doesn't convert to their religion.
Anyway, joining us now to discuss, and I think it's even tied into the Brexit vote that happened yesterday in Britain, and as much as immigration, the Islamization of Great Britain played heavily into the minds and voting hearts of people in Great Britain.
Amy uh Dardashian is with us.
She is a former CBS reporter, turned on air legal analyst, John Lott, the president of the crime prevention research center, author of the forthcoming book, War on Guns, of course, he's had many editions of More Guns Less Crime.
Uh, thank you both for being with us.
Amy, is this a gun issue or a radical Islamic terrorist issue?
I think they're interconnected, and I think what's so interesting about what's going on in the chambers right now for all to see is that many people, when seeing this sit-in by the Democrats, may think that they're trying to advance liberal legislation, but in fact they're pushing for a vote on legislation that was drafted by a Republican, which is actually pretty moderate.
It's to ban gun sales sales to 109,000 people on the no-fly list.
Only 2700 of them are Americans.
And there's even an outlet to appeal in court if you're put on the no-fly list and you're prohibited from purchasing guns.
The no fly list, I actually think there are very strong constitutional arguments about whether or not if you are on that no-fly list, there has to be some identification and some court presentation if you're going to prevent somebody from getting a gun.
Now, with that said, if you're on the no-fly list, I gotta believe it's probably for good reason.
I don't want the person to have the right to get a gun, but I certainly the person cannot be denied due process.
And the legislation builds in due process.
And let's not forget that there was a broader terrorism watch list measure that failed.
So this is a smaller subset.
Now the problem with this legislation that's a good idea.
But let me but Amy, let me ask the question this way.
If I've carried a gun, I've had carry permits in Rhode Island, California, Alabama, Georgia, and I carry a gun in New York every day of my life, all my adult life.
The last 30 years of my life, I've carried a gun.
My question to you is very simple.
If God forbid you ever found yourself in a situation like San Bernardino or Orlando, and we know in both these instances, these guys reloaded their weapons, which means that takes a little time to reload a weapon.
If I'm in that room, would you rather me be in that room with a weapon with the possibility of saving lives as a law-abiding, responsible, well-trained gun owner.
Would you wouldn't you rather me be there in the room with you?
I'm totally for that.
And I will say that the s the Supreme Court in two thousand eight, they recognize that there's a second amendment constitutional rights for an individual to keep and bear arms.
Even Wayne Lopier and the NRA, they support only law abiding citizens carrying guns.
So then what's the problem with background checks on felons and the mentality?
What's the problem with that?
John Lott, I'll let you answer.
Yeah.
Well, we all want to try to stop bad people from being able to get guns.
The Democrats could have voted for Corny's uh Senator Cornyn's bill, uh, which would have done exactly what you are saying there, Amy.
People on the no-fly list, if they had tried to buy a gun, the FBI would have been alerted, and then the people would have had seventy-two hours to go and appeal uh if the FBI decided that they didn't want to go and get the gun.
Verks except for one Democrat, all the other Democrats voted against that bill.
But here's the problem.
None of the proposals that the Democrats put up that were voted on in the Senate uh this week would have done anything to stop Orlando, and they wouldn't have stopped a single one of the mass public shootings during the Obama administration or years before.
I I would agree with you that they may not have to be able to do that.
I didn't interrupt that.
We'd want to do something here.
Let's do it.
But the one thing we know consistently to pick up on Sean's point is that we had yet another shooting in a gun-free zone where citizens weren't allowed to be able to go and defend themselves.
Just a couple of months ago, we had a case in Detroit where a father was concerned about his son's involvement with ISIS, had told the FBI, the FBI put a tap on his phone, and they had this amazing conversation tape where he's explaining why he was going to attack one of the largest churches in the Detroit area.
One, he had cased the place.
He had found that it would had a large congregation that people went to regularly, and two, the church was the only one of the large ones that had explicitly banned anybody from carrying permanent concealed handguns on church property, so he thought that they would be easy targets.
Time after time after time, we find explicit statements from these killers picking targets where they know victims can't defend themselves.
Whether it be the Charleston church shooting last year where the person was originally going to go to Charleston College, but because of the armed security there decided not to do it.
I could go through a long list.
But listen.
Why won't we go and deal with the one thing that actually is relevant to all these mass public shootings?
Name me one mass public shooting that Senator Feinstein's bill would have stopped.
Okay, first of all, if you're talking about the ban on on assault weapons, and people like yourself are always citing a government study that when we had the ban from ninety-four to two thousand and four, that it had little to no effect because semi-atem automatic weapons only accounted for about two percent of all crimes.
I did a study that nobody else has done.
I isolated mass shootings, and obviously the majority of mass shootings involved semi-automatic weapons.
But what I found was really interesting because I found that from ninety-four to two thousand and four, the number of mass shootings was almost identical in the forty range to the ones from two thousand and four to present.
So we're having the same amount of mass shootings, even when semi-autos are banned.
But what I found is that during the assault weapons ban, there were a third less casualties.
So what I really attribute that to is banning on high capacity magazines.
And there is no reason that if you need to defend yourself or go hunting, that you can't have your semi-automatic weapon, have your ten round magazine and reload.
You don't need 30 round magazine.
You don't need a hundred and round magazine, and those few seconds that it might take somebody during a mass shooting to have to reload, those are seconds that can save lives.
Those are seconds when law enforcement can take that person down.
It's simply wrong to say that you're the only one who's looked at that.
There's been lots of academic studies that have been done on that.
They have not found the type of claim that you're making there.
I counted every single casualty.
There was a hundred and sixty casualties approximately during the ban, and more than four hundred.
John your turn.
Hang on, John, your turn.
Even studies paid for by the Clinton administration, or later on when they were asked to do a follow-up study, those same people couldn't find the types of benefits that you're talking about there.
But look, if you want to go and ban uh magazines, good luck.
Because they're like the simplest thing to make.
It's a box with a spring in it.
The notion that somehow you're going to be able to stop criminals from being able to go and get a box with a spring in it, you know, even with just a simple you ought to just take a simple set of tools and figure out how easy it is to go and make a magazine.
And and with things like uh 3D printers and whatever, I mean, you don't even need to have simple tools to do that type of thing anymore.
You're not going to be able to control that.
Uh magazines the bad guys are gonna get what you're gonna do by limiting magazine sizes is mainly affecting law abiding citizens.
Most people of concealed carry permits will only carry the magazine that's in the gun that they have.
If you limit it like to ten or like they try to do in New York to seven, uh they're the ones who are going to be limited.
You know, when why do they need thirty rounds to fire up to a bullet a second?
Why do they need that?
Why do they need what?
Why do they need thirty round magazines or a hundred round magazines, which are what are used in mass shootings?
When Adam Lanza went into Newtown, he brought twenty-two high capacity, thirty round magazines, more than five hundred rounds of ammunition, and shot those elementary school children multiple times.
Why do you need that if you're defending your home or if you're sh hunting?
You can't reload your magazine?
Uh answer that, but I just want to point out that you've still not told us one single case where Feinstein's law would have stopped one mass public shooting.
I'm telling you that the number of mass shootings were the same.
I'm not arguing that you can't prevent mass shootings.
Listen, during the assault weapons ban, people didn't go out of their way to get illegal semi-automatics, even though there were millions in circulation.
Those forty mass shootings, they were d most of them were with handguns.
So people go out of their way.
Because the odds are that there's not going to be anybody there to fire back, true?
I I don't agree with that gun free zones.
I think that there should be a big thing.
Well, you mean you don't agree with it?
It's just a f it's a fact.
I mean, how many of these incidents, John, do these shooters pick gun free zones?
Yeah, since nineteen fifty, with just three exceptions, every one of these mass public shootings has taken place where general citizens are not allowed to go and have guns for protection.
And the problem is police are important.
But you have a uniformed police officer there, they have an extremely difficult job and dangerous job stopping these mass public shootings because they stand out like a sore thumb.
You know, whether it be the Charlie Hebdo attack or others, the guard or the person in uniform there, they're the first person taken out in these attacks.
And the benefit of having permit concealed handguns is that they don't know who it is that they're not.
No.
What are you gonna do if God forbid there's a uh a robbery in your house or a break in in your house or a home invasion?
What are you gonna do?
To be honest with you, I was recently talking to my husband about us going and and purchasing a gun.
But what I'm saying is that listen, I'm not getting it.
What if there are what if there are five guys?
For example, I have a I have a Glock 40 or no Smith w nine that I carry.
I have ten uh hollow point bullets in every clip, okay?
Okay, where do you keep those?
Where do I keep them?
When I carry children.
Yeah, of course I can I I have next to my bed.
I have a fingerprint safe that I have it literally, I it opens in a second.
Right.
So what I'm saying is that there are there are rarely instances where you hear about somebody defending their home.
Amy, that's not true.
I would I could tell you right now, I mean, it takes me one second.
I could send you to my house right now and you can spend four months here and you would never get access to my guns, and I'll even tell you where they are, unless you bring dynamite with you, and even then I doubt you'll get them.
So my question is no gunshots involving children nationwide is probably a lot less than most people think.
If you look at the latest numbers for two thousand and fourteen for kids under age fifteen, there are fifty-two cases.
Now it's fifty-two cases for t all the children of the United States under age fifteen, fifty-two too many.
Yeah, it is.
But the problem is is that when you require, as some states do, that people have to lock up.
Hey, I gotta let you both go, but thank you both for an informative debate.
We really appreciate it.
So many people so wrong on, you know, this Great Britain exit, Brexit from uh the European Union.
Huge loss for Obama, huge loss for Hillary, and Donald Trump was right.
And a lot of it has to do with globalization, loss of jobs, immigration, control of one's borders, and one's destiny.
And why should Great Britain be funding?
That's why all these other countries now want to get out as well.
Why should Great Britain be funding countries that have been irresponsible in terms of the money that they're promising their citizens like Spain and other countries and Greece, and they're going bankrupt.
Uh before we get to the phones, joining us quickly here is Claudia Tenney.
Now she is running for office out of New York.
I had the opportunity.
I was up doing an event with Donald Trump up in uh I think it was Albany's Connectity, and had a chance to meet her.
She wants to go to Washington.
She would be a great addition to the, well, rather weak minded Republicans that are there.
And I was so impressed with you.
I just wanted to introduce you to the audience today and get your your feeling about the state of the race and your race.
Thank you, Sean.
I greatly appreciate your support.
It's uh it's it's gonna be a close race.
Uh uh, as you know, I ran against uh the incumbent in 2014, nearly knocked him off uh with a you know 15-1 disadvantage in fundraising.
And now my my uh the the incumbent is backed out after I announced I was running, and he's uh getting behind a guy who is actually a top donor to Governor Andrew Andrew Cuomo.
Uh you remember him, he's the guy that said that we conservatives have no place in New York, and uh they're running a multimillion dollar smear campaign against me, trying to call me some kind of liberal and a Sheldon Silver acoly.
You know, and everyone knows I'm I'm a strong advocate uh for conservative values.
I'm endorsed by the Conservative Party.
I'll be on the conservative line in November.
I'm endorsed by NRA, uh Citizens Union Union, uh SKA list, a strong pro-life organization, and uh we're running hard.
We need the you need the support.
Uh, you know, they're we're greatly uh outspent again, but it looks like we're slightly ahead of the city.
You know what the sad thing is?
I looked at your website, and you know, I see where you stand on economy and jobs.
If New York would just follow Pennsylvania's lead on fracking, it would revitalize all of upstate New York.
It would create that many jobs.
Yeah, you you certainly know the devastation of Obamacare.
You to but what impressed me is you kind of have taken a line from Trump, which I think is resonating, which is on illegal immigrants, we're gonna put Americans first.
On taxes, we're gonna put families first.
On government spending, you gotta rein in waste fraud and abuse and stop spending money like a bunch of drunken sailors.
And by the way, no offense to drunken sailors, because they don't spend as much money as government.
And uh the second amendment and being pro-life, it's tough in a state like New York, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
I I'm uh a small business owner.
We have a manufacturing business that was started seventy years ago by my grandfather, and we've been hurt by the bad trade deals.
I wrote a piece that was published in the Washington Times thanks to my good friend Monica Crowley, who uh was published us with a uh another local manufacturer who actually runs the business founded by Paul Revere, one of our founding uh heroes in in the old days, and uh that we're still in business, but it's just struggle and and we've been hurt directly by bad trade deals in our community.
We've lost businesses and jobs, and uh, and of course I'm sitting right in Binghamton, New York, one of the richest areas where the uh Marcella Shell is, and uh we're not able to touch it.
You cross the wall into Pennsylvania and uh and they're uh doing safe, responsible gas drilling that we're not doing here in New York, thanks to people.
I don't mean this in an offensive way.
Pennsylvania's smarter.
Pennsylvania's actually literally stealing all of the resources from New York because the gas literally will will pass right over the border into their state, but good for them, they're smart enough to do it.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
I mean, here we are in you know, the Governor Cuomo's world.
I've got a uh the guy that I'm against too, by the way, the re Washington establishment is behind as well.
Incredibly, you know, again, he's a huge donor to Cuomo.
He's got millions in State contracts that he's getting in exchange for his uh his donations, it looks like.
You know, I it it looks like uh exactly what I've been fighting the cronyism, uh the pay-to-place games, all the things that Donald Trump is talking about.
And actually, I thought the Brexit, as it's called, the British exit from uh the EU was uh it was an amazing uh you know, nod at Margaret Saturn looking back to growing our economy and then and it's for all freedom lovers to uh to celebrate today.
Yeah, well said.
Anyway, Claudia Tenney is uh running up in New York.
Thank you, Claudia.
I was very impressed meeting you again.
Uh I've had the opportunity now to meet you a couple of times, and I I really hope you're able to take that seat.
We wish you the best.
Thank you, and thanks for signing my son, my Marine Sons Football.
I appreciate it.
I think that's more my uh honor.
I hope I wrote Semper Fi on it.
You did write Semper Fi.
He's got a displayed proudly in his room.
Unfortunately, uh, you know, he's uh he's serving our country right now.
So uh Claudia for Congress.com.
If anyone's interested in finding out more about me, Claudia for Congress.com.
All right, Claudio.
I'm I'm uh hoping the people upstate New York get a clue in the New York 22nd.
800 941 Sean, our toll-free telephone number.
Uh Tessa is in Lynchburg, Virginia, the home of beautiful beautiful Liberty University.
Tessa, hi, how are you?
We're glad you called.
Hey, Sean, how are you doing?
I'm good.
How are you doing?
I'm doing well.
Hey, listen, I'm a living university graduate student.
I've been here for a while.
I've done my undergrad here, and I just wanted to say what I find really interesting is that a lot of the students here, while they're conservative, they aren't supporting Donald Trump.
They're they're supporters of maybe Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, and while that's great, uh what blows my mind is that they're listening to the mainstream media.
And you know, for a while, I was I was in that vote.
I I heard the mainstream media, I heard what they were saying about you know, he we shouldn't give him the nuclear codes, he's not fit to be president.
And I have been listening to your show now for a while, and I've just been doing my own research, and it's incredible the things that the corruption that Hillary Clinton's gotten away with in the Obama administration and the things that you're uncovering, and it it has completely converted me to becoming a Trump supporter.
And I really just want to thank you for that.
And it's really you know, I've gotten a lot of criticism for my interviews with Trump, but I've also got him on record committing to a lot of conservative things, justices, energy independence, coal, fracking, drilling, nuclear, and new technologies.
I've got him committed to balancing a budget, even likes the penny plan, which I've advocated for years.
Uh he's talks about education back to the states.
He you know, on every single issue on building the wall, etc.
etc.
I I ask friends of mine, and and I understand the nationalist populist, the difference in some of these free trade deals that have not worked out for American workers and manufacturing, and you know, globalism has hurt Great Britain, but it's also hurt American workers in the uh in this country.
You know, the idea that we ship all our manufacturing overseas has taken away a lot of jobs from a lot of Americans, and these massive trade deficits are having a huge impact on American lives.
And it's destroying the middle class, which is the heart and soul of this country.
And this message is resonating.
That's why I think Trump can win a state like Pennsylvania, or he might take a state like Wisconsin or Michigan.
Those states have all been devastated by these by these bad trade deals that have not protected American products, American workers.
Now, Hannity, you sound like a protectionist.
No, I'm for free trade, but fair trade, and I'm also for better negotiating.
And and I think that's that's what Trump is saying.
Absolutely.
And I think some I wish people of my generation would actually listen to what he's saying and actually believe it and and listen to what the mainstream media is not reporting and what you're talking about, and what and the speech that he gave this past week was amazing, and it was the thing that we needed to hear that we hadn't been hearing for how many years?
And it's I think it's ridiculous that the main it y you said it before.
If this was Republican presidential candidate doing these things, he would have been in jail on news cycles, would have been on repeat non-stop.
But no, they refused to report about anything that's going on with the Clintons or with the Obama administration.
And it's it's that's but you know what?
If they did their job, I'd be less popular.
I'm filling a massive void here, so we'll live with it that way.
Tessa, thank you.
Appreciate it.
We'll go to Florida.
Tina is next.
Hi, Tina, how are you?
And welcome to the program.
I'm good.
Happy Friday.
I I think we need a hill exit, and I think we need a Trump intro.
A Brexit and a hexit.
I got it.
Yeah, hill exit and a Trump intro.
Hell exit.
Okay.
Um what soured my stomach with Hillary Clinton um was in 1999 when JFK Jr. was going to run for the Senate against he would have who up there.
Okay.
He was America's baby, slooting his dad at the coffin.
He would have won by a slant landslice.
All of a sudden he ends up dead in an airplane crash.
And how convenient for Hillary.
Okay.
You're not giving me a conspiracy that you think by all indications, JFK Jr., and that was a tragedy.
I mean that he he didn't have the training, instrument training qualifications to take the ride that he took that night, and there's something known as spatial disorientation where you don't even know you know you think your plane's horizontal and it ends up being vertical, and you have no idea you're headed right down for a crash, and by all indications, sadly that's what happened in that case.
But um I'm not I'm not accused and I'm just saying it's all right.
I'm just I'm making sure.
I mean, but look, you know, it was a tragedy.
He's a young man in the prime of his life, and he had a very tragic family history.
I mean, from all indications, I actually knew people that knew him and uh really liked him a lot that he was a really good guy.
All right, Tina, thank you.
Crazy Verlin, the liberal in Chicago.
What's up, Crazy Verlin?
Why am I even talking to you on this Friday?
Why would I let you aggravate me in the ha last half hour of the show?
That's not smart on my part, but go ahead.
You wouldn't know what to do without me pissing you off at least a little bit so you can burn off some steam.
Man shall you are the hardest man to catch up with these days.
Uh I will call this number a thousand times so I can get a piece of you.
I think you're scared to step in the octagon with me because you don't want some of this ground in pound I got for you today.
Listen, I'll spend I'll tell you what.
I actually been training now.
I got to I got to my brown belt recently, and I'm now working towards my black belt.
I got about two years to go.
And you really want you really want to jump in the octagon with me?
That's oh over over the phone, not in person.
Uh you know, say I I I don't I'll make it right in first.
All right, but listen.
I don't think you want to be in the octagon with me because and the and my MMA rules are no rules.
None.
No, the old school.
That's old school.
I'm I'm old days too.
Bo bare knuckles, brawl.
That's how I train.
I mean, you should see my fingers, they're all busted up in five different pieces, all of them.
Anyway, what's going on?
You've been all over Obama's back like a parasite for the last few years.
Listen, naming the enemy does nothing for beating the enemy.
I mean, that's no battles battle plan.
All naming.
Why can't he enemy does is you're trying to put Islam in a bad light, the Muslim religion in a bad light.
It's like it's like you want to go to war with that religion.
Obama knows better than that.
That's a billion and a half people.
You do not want to.
Here's what I know.
Here's what I know is happened under Obama's ring, okay, and Hillary Clinton's time.
He gave a hundred and fifty billion dollars to the number one state sponsor of terror.
He identified a date of pull out in Iraq, and that allowed the enemy, ISIS, to be created and grow and have the financial resources to grow.
And simultaneously, he never he draw drew a red line in the sand, and he and Hillary didn't do anything after weapons of mass destruction were used against Syrians' people.
Uh he also gave Muhammad Morsi, former terrorist, head of the Muslim Brotherhood, F-16's tanks, and a billion taxpayer dollars.
He has now turned the Middle East into what it is today.
Nothing but a absolute chaotic mess.
It was in far better condition when he got there.
Uh Russian reset didn't work.
China, he's done nothing for China, and nothing for with North Korea.
Now, if you look at the economy, we have twelve million more Americans in poverty on food stamps.
We have all time high record of of those Americans out of the labor force, and he's doubled the debt, accumulating more debt than every other president before him combined.
I'll tell you what I'm gonna do for you.
I am gonna give you a test.
Are you ready, Verlin?
You think you're so smart.
Let's get in the occur let's get in the octagon.
You ready?
All right, tell me three specific things that Obama has done that have worked out well for the American people.
Go.
Well, uh, if everybody was willing to put skin in the game, Obamacare will work like a Obamacare's going bankrupt, and everyone's premiums are up forty percent this year.
Next.
Okay.
Go.
Okay.
Finance.
Well, it has worked well for for everybody.
Uh What financial reform?
Yes, financial reform.
What financial reform?
He doubled the debt.
We have more we have millions more in poverty on food stamps.
That's wrong answer number two.
Go.
Okay.
Let me see.
Um I'm trying to think.
Oh, uh, the the car company is back on track.
You don't hear nothing bad about the car company.
Okay.
And you think the American people should be paying all that money to bail out private organizations?
What about small business owners that were forced to pay?
They don't get that break.
Is that fair?
No.
Strike.
Strike three.
Strike three.
By the way, Verlin, I gotta tell you something.
I just knocked you out.
I want a different test.
Oh, you want a different test because you lost the first one?
All right, next time you're on.
I want a different test.
Hey, hey, Verlin.
That was a cold knockout in 30 seconds.
Thank you, my friend.
800-941 Sean.
Oh, now I'll leave it on a happy note, knocking out Verlin.