As the country continues to reel from the tragedy in Orlando, Sean spends some time analyzing what intelligence information was available to law enforcement agencies. Is it possible to prevent tragedies like the one in Orlando? Sean talks with some experts who thinks it may be possible. The Sean Hannity Show is live Monday through Friday from 3pm - 6pm ET. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
You are listening to the Sean Hannity radio show podcast.
You know, attention to detail is critical when you own your own business, so use legalzoom.com for the legal details.
Now their network of independent attorneys licensed in 48 states.
Well, they know local laws and can provide answers to your legal questions.
LegalZoom.com is not a law firm, so you won't pay by the hour.
Just use Hannity 1 when you check out and save even more.
LegalZoom.com.
You know, I think I know I'm a registered conservative.
I I'm ready to I can't even explain level of anger I have in me at Republicans and how dumb, how stupid the level I feel of sabotage that is going on for the campaign of Donald Trump, and I've just had it.
Let me read from Talking Points Memo today.
The headline is Paul Ryan on stopping a President Trump's Muslim ban.
We'll sue him.
House Speaker Paul Ryan has made clear he doesn't agree with the proposal put forward by Donald Trump, whom Ryan has endorsed.
By the way, Ryan went out of his way.
Has anyone heard Ryan?
Is anyone questioned him about what the CIA director Brennan said yesterday about about ISIS infiltrating refugee population coming into the United States?
Now, if ISIS infiltrates and they come here, what do you think they're coming here for?
Well, to commit acts of terror like what happened a week ago in Orlando, or what happened in Chattanooga, or what happened in Boston, or what happened in San Bernardino, or what happened in Paris, or what happened on 9-11, or what happened in Belgium.
But no, because we, you know, I keep repeating myself because obviously these people are so stupid or ignorant they don't get it.
Because it wasn't just the CIA director.
Before him, it was the FBI director.
It was the assistant FBI director, the National Director of Intelligence, the House Homeland Security Committee Chairman.
It was a special envoy to defeat ISIS and all others.
They're all saying ISIS will infiltrate the refugee population.
Now that's not stopping your president from going forward and bringing in since Orlando about 500 Syrian refugees in spite of the warning, oh, we can vet them.
All right, well, they were gonna vet him.
It's supposed to take two years.
Well, they're vetting him now in three months.
They knew, you know, how do we trust them to vet when the very same people knew about this guy in Orlando and did nothing?
They didn't even keep him on the watch list.
And by the way, you think Hillary's any better?
Well, political fact checked that.
Hillary supports a 500% increase in Syrian refugees coming into the uh the country.
Each year, the U.S. admits more than a hundred thousand immigrants from the Middle East.
And more, and many more from Muslim countries outside the Middle East.
And our government has been admitting ever growing numbers year after year after year after year after year.
Anyway, so having learned nothing about these attacks, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump said this.
You know, Trump said Clinton's plan to massively increase admissions of Middle Eastern refugees.
Clinton has in fact said that in response to the refugee crisis, she would raise Obama's limit of 10,000 to 65,000.
Yes, Trump is right.
A 550% increase, a bit higher than what Trump said.
So Trump's statement was entirely true, not mostly true, as they say, although these idiots at PolitiFact don't get their facts right themselves, and nobody's there to check the fact checker.
But back to Paul Ryan.
So he says he's made it clear he doesn't agree on a temporary ban.
It's not a permanent ban, it's a temporary ban.
It's a temporary ban in response to the CIA, FBI director, assistant FBI director, special envoy to defeat ISIS, House Homeland Security Chairman, and others, and ISIS itself.
And what we learned in Paris and what we learned in Belgium.
Anyway, so Ryan floated the idea of taking a President Trump to court.
If he tried to implement such a ban, I would sue any president that exceeds his or her powers, he said in a back and forth about Trump's claims that he can implement a ban or build a Mexican border without congressional approval.
You know, it seems Paul Ryan's concerned about more than anything, not about security.
Seems like he's concerned that Donald Trump has taken over the Republican Party and he's pissed off.
He's more concerned about what's going to happen.
Is anyone paying attention to what life in these Muslim countries under Sharia law is like?
I mean, I know Hillary takes money.
I've been spending days on this program explaining the treatment of gays and lesbians and bisexuals and transsexuals and women and others and Christians and Jews in these Muslim countries.
They are discriminated against.
They are treated horribly.
There is abuse of women, they execute gays.
You can't build a temple.
You can't build a church in countries like Saudi Arabia.
And it seems that the greatest anger that we get out of our speaker is against Donald Trump.
You know, this open effort now to sabotage the person that got the most votes in a primary.
I'm sick and tired of it, and it's got to stop.
Or maybe it's time to get a new speaker.
If he doesn't want to get on board, if he doesn't want to support the candidate, if if they want to involve themselves in a what David Horowitz wrote today, a murder suicide pact or a circular firing squad as I usually refer to it, then maybe it's time for new leadership in Congress.
Go go do something else.
Because the American people need a wall for our security.
We need to listen to our security experts.
With all due respect, Paul Ryan, I trust James Clapper, James Comey, Brennan, Michael Steinbeck, General John Allen, and Mike McCall on this topic more than I trust you.
And I respect the fact that we have a presidential candidate, unlike Hillary, who's taken millions and millions and millions of dollars from people that oppress minorities, religious minorities and women and gays and lesbians and kill them.
I I think I'm more inclined to listen to those people that say, hey, we're putting Americans at risk.
I am not willing to gamble with the lives of the American people.
And if our intelligence officials say that it is a risk, that we can't possibly vet them, that it is a danger that ISIS is going to infiltrate.
You know, say what you will about evil.
ISIS is evil, but evil does not necessarily mean stupid.
And in the case of ISIS, I have no doubt that they're going to be training, knowing that we're going to be interviewing the people, the refugees.
So when they infiltrate the refugee population, they're going to be all earned up.
They're going to be all talking pointed up, just like Democrats on TV, and they're going to regurgitate back.
I am being oppressed.
I am a I feel for my family.
I cannot make a living.
I'm going to die if you send me back.
They're not going to say, yeah, I'm going to America.
I'm with ISIS and I'm going to kill you.
They're not going to say that.
So vetting becomes difficult, if not impossible, especially in the hundreds of thousands of numbers that, you know, people, some people are talking about.
You know, there's a story in Jihad Watch by Robert Spencer about 51% of U.S. Muslims want Sharia.
Well, I'm describing Sharia to you on a daily basis.
I'm not going to go through it all now.
Maybe I'll do it later in the program.
But Sharia and Saudi Arabia, Sharia and Kuwait and UAE and Brunei and Algeria and Oman and Qatar, by the way, all those countries gave money to the Clinton Foundation.
You know, I just I they don't understand the nature.
There is modern day slavery for women in these countries.
There is modern day genocide against religious minorities.
And, you know, I thought that that Democrats, you know, were going to stick up for the gay and lesbian community.
No, that would be conservatives like me that want them to stop being executed.
That would be conservatives like me that believe in freedom of religion and the right to build a temple and a Christian church and a Catholic church if you want.
It's conservatives like me that don't think men have a right to tell women how to dress.
If they want to wear a bikini to the beach, it's their business, not mine.
If they want to wear it, get dressed up and put jewelry on and makeup on, they can do what they want.
And it's Democrats like Hillary taking money from these oppressor countries, those that denigrate women, subjugate women, oppress women.
And she claims this mantle of compassion and a monopoly on women's rights, and Donald Trump, oh, he called Rosie O'Donnell a pig.
Oh, he thinks uh he he mentioned once that this lady is really pretty.
She looked hot.
Wow, that's really horrible compared to what women are living under every single day under Sharia.
I don't get it.
And, you know, you look at these numbers if 51% of U.S. Muslims want sharia, and 60% of young Muslims are more loyal to Islam than the U.S., then maybe those of us that have been warning about the desire of Islamists to spread and advance the caliphate that have been moving into Europe and the United States not to assimilate but to proselytize and to create a theocracy and
a worldwide version of Sharia.
Maybe we're not so paranoid after all.
Maybe we're not so nuts after all.
Maybe it's just that we have the courage to admit what is a basic, simple, undeniable truth that is unfolding before your eyes.
You know, you ought to be alarmed when you see that Great Britain of all countries has eighty-eight separate Sharia courts.
You ought to be able to see what's happening in France and in Germany and in Belgium and in Sweden and in Spain and all of Europe.
You don't have to be, you know, all of the immigration that they have allowed is transforming not only individual countries, but their entire continent for crying out loud.
Now, oh, John Kerry, by the way, admitted terrorism is a bigger threat than climate change.
Because twice he had said the Islamic State and the threat of terrorism around the world is now is not as big a threat as climate change.
Oh, okay.
Gee, glad you glad you're able to stick up for a real stuck your neck out there, John.
I have some other thoughts on, you know, this has been a horrible week for America.
It just has been.
You know, and again, I'm tired of saying my thoughts and prayers as much as they do.
They my heart breaks for my friends in Orlando.
And news News Radio 965 and WDBO.
I bet most people listening in Orlando know somebody that was horribly killed the other night.
It it does break our hearts.
But you know something, and we're going to bring back on the program later, Phil Haney.
He's one of the founding members of the Department of Homeland Security.
Obama becomes president, and he's told to do a to wipe clean and scrub clean a database that included the names of Muslims connected to radicalism.
Why?
I don't know.
Also have on another guy, Rick Chiggins.
He's another guy.
He spent his life and time and devoted to putting the pieces and connecting the dots with individuals and organizations to protect American lives.
And lo and behold, Obama comes in and oh, we're going to stop that.
I mean, it literally Orlando, the worst mass killing in American history, the worst attack since 9-11.
So many different things to focus on here, not the least of which is how stupid the left is, how they try to deflect and distract and how they go to the least common denominator, and oh, this is about guns again.
There's no one law you can tell me that would have been on the books that would have prevented this lunatic from doing what he did.
This terrorist that's committed to killing in the name of Allah, assuming he's getting 72 virgins.
You're not gonna stop it.
And if you had somebody with a gun in the Pulse Nightclub, maybe that person could have saved innocent lives.
It's unbelievable to me.
You know, we have endured another week where Democrats and the left are focused and obsessed on the wrong issue.
It's not gun control.
This despite the fact that it's obvious gun control legislation would not have stopped this guy.
He passed a background check because our Department of Homeland Security took him off the watch list, which was Mandated by the federal government.
He was, he did get a background check.
He bought the guns legally.
We could have prevented it if we had done our job and kept them on the list, but they didn't do that.
And so the media once again cranking up this anti-gun, anti-Second Amendment crusade.
You got, you know, with Democratic Congressman filibustering in order to curtail people's constitutional rights.
Obama on cue, predictable, within hours, slandering the NRA and gun owners, those who defend the easy accessibility of assault weapons.
By the way, all these people themselves, how many Secret Service people with guns protect you, Mr. President?
You know what?
How about giving a little protection on our own here?
I support the Secret Service.
I met these, I love those guys.
I support police.
I love them too.
I admire what all of them do.
And I want to protect our president, the leader of the free world.
I want to protect all of our government officials.
I don't care what their politics are.
But I think we, the people, we have the right to protect ourselves too.
And if a maniac terrorist starts shooting and then stops to text his wife and see if he's trending on social media, if he stops to reload, hopefully there's somebody like Sean Hannity in there that carries a gun that's going to put two right in his brain and stop him from killing other people.
Unbelievable.
But no, we don't have that, right?
It's a gun's fault.
If it's not a gun, it's going to be a bomb.
If it's not a bomb, it's going to be a knife.
If not, it's going to be something.
You know, the sad thing is they're they steadfastly ignored the root cause of violence.
Islamic terrorism.
That's the root cause here.
You need to take control of your family and assets.
Now it sounds like common sense, but too many people procrastinate instead of getting an estate plan before it's too late.
Now with legalzoom.com, there's no reason to put it off any longer.
Now you don't have to figure out on your own whether you need a will or a living trust and what's best for you.
Instead, you work with an independent attorney, now available in 48 states.
Now they'll walk you through your options and recommend an estate plan that offers the best solution to fit your needs.
And since legal Zoom is not a law firm, well, you can count on efficiency and value.
Everything is on your schedule, your terms, plus you know what your estate plan bundle costs up front instead of worrying about high hourly rates.
Now that's how legal Zoom has become the leader in helping families with their legal needs.
You get the legal help and you walk away feeling great about it.
So don't leave the most important decisions that you can make in the hands of other people.
Take control of your family's future with an estate plan bundle at legalzoom.com today.
Just use Hannity One when you check out and save even more.com.
By the way, just when you thought Hillary Clinton, you know, taking money from all these Muslim countries isn't enough.
You know, nearly 25 million from Saudi Arabia, up to five million from Kuwait, five million UAE, Brunei, Qatar, Oman, Algeria.
Of course they bought her silence.
She doesn't criticize the oppression of women, gays, lesbians, Christians, and Jews of these countries.
No, not at all.
If you think that's bad, well, guess what?
When you think she couldn't stoop any lower.
Daily Caller reporting that the former Secretary of State is actually fundraising off of last week's horrific attack in Orlando.
Yeah, that's right.
Mass campaign email went out on behalf of Hillary Clinton.
This week, Republicans in Congress asked for a moment of silence for the victims of the shooting in Orlando.
Democrats in the House of Representatives, they refused.
They would not stand silent about the work it's going to take to end the nation's gun violence epidemic.
We need all the resources we can to take on Donald Trump and the NRA.
Chip in one dollar, let's do this.
Wow.
That's so sick, isn't it?
So ugly, so twisted.
Unbelievable.
It's about money, money, money, money, money.
Anyway, I want to go back to the president ignoring the root cause of what happened here or Hillary ignoring the root cause as they take money from all these countries that abuse women, all these countries that abuse gays, lesbians, Christians and Jews.
but putting that aside.
Anyway, this hyper focus on this anti-gun agenda.
Now, if Hillary and Obama had their way, you know, they'd get rid of the second amendment.
You've got to understand that's just a fact.
If they had their way, they thought they can get away with it, they would.
How many times has Obama tried to hold up examples like Australia as a model for America?
He should just come out and say it.
Hillary should just come out and say it.
You got a president and a presidential candidate candidate that just refuse to see the true nature of the enemy and the threat that we're facing.
Radical Islam.
They're out there championing proposals that aren't solutions, do nothing to curb mass killings.
You can't tell me one law that would have prevented this had it been on the books for years, it wouldn't have prevented this.
It's ignorant to believe it would.
Study after study after study after study after study shows gun control laws are not effective.
Never have been.
And again, if you're in San Bernardino, if you're in Orlando, Chattanooga, whatever, wherever.
If you're in France and if you're in Belgium, and you got somebody shooting up the place, do you want a licensed trained gun owner there with you?
That would be able to stop them, as in the case of this lunatic down in Orlando texting his wife, checking out if he's trending on social media.
That's how much time people would have had to take him out.
And dropping clips and reloading.
That's more time to take him out.
Anyway, Obama's statement.
Why is it they think our liberty requires these repeated tragedies?
That's not the meaning of liberty.
Our liberties don't require these repeated tragedies.
If you're gonna blame something on these tragedies, then try to blaming yourself.
You know, that's what is he talking about here?
Because of the gun laws?
Now I'm gonna say something that nobody else is gonna say.
Very few people will say.
You want to know why ISIS you want to know why the vacuum was there for ISIS to emerge?
Because of him.
We had one Ramadi Fellutia to Crete, Mosul, and Baghdad.
The surge worked.
President Bush warned, don't pull out too early, or else we're gonna be back because the enemy's gonna be worse.
And Obama politicized and Hillary politicized the war, and lo and behold, we pull out too early, and and the same thing in Syria.
He draws a line in the sand and he doesn't do a thing about it.
He withdraws the troops from Iraq, he's passive on Syria, it created a vacuum, and thus the rise of ISIS.
You know, you can also blame the Department of Homeland Security.
They interviewed Mattine how many times?
They didn't stop him.
Blame political correctness.
That froze people from intervening.
You know, people that he worked with and went to school with.
There was all the signs were there.
He apparently cheered on 9-11.
Guy that said to his co-workers that, hey, I'm I'm connected to Al Qaeda and Hezbollah, who says that?
Guy that told the FBI he wanted to be a martyr for crying out loud.
Oh, we can't, we don't want to offend the guy.
Blame radical Islam that is pushing this caliphate, advancing this caliphate, not people that, you know, the president has his defense.
He's got the Secret Service, which is the right thing to do.
And they're well armed, and they protect him as they should.
Hillary Clinton's protected by Secret Service.
You're not.
I'm not.
It's up to us to protect ourselves.
Former Israeli ambassador to the UN, Michael Lauren pointed out that if terrorists have plans to murder someone, there's no gun law that's going to stop them.
Quote, I think that if a terrorist wants to get a gun, a terrorist is gonna get a gun.
You know, would Obama, if he were president after 9-11, stopped air travel because terrorists use planes as weapons?
I saw something on hot air today.
I thought it was put fairly well.
If we can deter mass casualty by limiting basic rights, well, why shouldn't we criminalize blasphemy?
If the editors of Charlie Edo were barred from satirizing Muhammad, They might well be alive today.
A narrow blasphemy law prohibiting insults to the prophet, but to no one else.
That's a smaller affront to the first amendment than banning a broad class of popular quote weapons.
They always say assault weapon.
They don't even know what the they don't even know the first thing about a weapon.
They're so ignorant.
It's amazing.
Half the time assault being labeled to a weapon is basically more cosmetic than anything else.
But that's another discussion for another day.
The president speaking out about the tragedy in Orlando, he lied to us about the legality of the gun used in the Newtown murders.
It was not the case as Obama implied that our laws allowed Adam Lanza, the perpetrator in Sandy Hook, to arm himself.
In fact, the semi-automatic rifle that he used in the elementary school, as well as four other weapons recovered from the crime scene belonged to his mother, who purchased them legally, who had a permit for their use.
Lanza stole them.
And I point all of it out because as I said earlier, we are approaching the end of a week where tragedy has occurred, and it within hours, predictably, the left is trying to exploit the tragedy for their own benefit.
And frankly, it's sickening to watch Hillary and Obama so quick to advance, you know, to use human tragedy, advancing their left wing agenda, and doing so in a way that's all about moral preening and moral posturing that has nothing to do with the root cause of the problem.
He'd rather downplay the threat of radical Islam and attack those of us that believe in the Second Amendment.
You know, rather than say what is actually the truth here.
You know, the same guy who gave guns to drug cartels, criminal enterprises, gangsters, kidnappers in Fast and Furious, and was dumb enough not to put tracking devices on the guns, and many people have died because of Obama's gun distribution program known as Fast and Furious.
The same president that has released more terrorists, a lot of whom gone back to the battlefield to kill again.
He's responsible for their killings.
It's the same president that and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, she was involved in all of this.
Gitmo, fast and furious, started the negotiations with Iran, ending with 150 billion dollars to the number one state sponsor of terror, allows them to build missile defense so we'll never be able to take out their nuclear sites with Russia.
Yeah, that's what they did.
And they're worried about your second amendment rights.
Let's give guns to the cartels.
Let's let's let terrorists and get mo free.
Let's give the Iranian terrorists 150 billion.
Let's give Mohammed Morsi, part of the terrorist group, the Muslim Brotherhood for years, a guy that, you know, refers to Israelis as descendants of apes and pigs.
Let's give him tanks, F-16s, and a billion and a half dollars.
That's what Hillary and Obama did.
But let's take away your second amendment right.
By the way, my friend John Lott reminds me that he's pointing out in our discussion that we had with Unger the other day that the NICS doesn't prevent purchases from people on the terror watch list, and he said the main reason that it wasn't originally included was because people's names can be put on a list for no real evidence while you lose your gun rights.
You have traditionally required a finding by a judge.
Good point.
There's a very important constitutional point to that, and it's not a technicality.
And Unger was talking about, and I didn't know the facts at the time, but my buddy John did, and he sent them to me.
Forty states allow concealed handguns in a bar.
Yet despite people being able to carry in states that allow people to carry in bars and 13 million permit holders nationwide.
There's not a single example offered of drunk patrons with permits pulling out their guns and shooting other people.
Nor are they any examples with sober permit holders.
All 50 states allow people to carry in establishments that earn less than 50% of revenue from alcohol, allow guns to be carried there.
Again, there's no examples offered of drunk or sober patrons with permits pulling out their guns and shooting others.
Okay, so I appreciate him.
I just didn't know that fact at the time.
By the way, the economy sadly is worse than we thought.
Turns out the Obama economy all these years.
This is on Brightbart.com today where I found it.
The Commerce Department is set to is set this July to publish a stunning 2% downward revision of GDP during Obama's time in office.
Department of Bureau of Economic Statistics.
They make small revisions to their published statistics as more information becomes available over time, but in a massively large adjustment.
They have now revised downward by 346 billion, the real after inflation, GDP for 50 states in DC covering an 11 year period from 2005, 2015, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So it's now worse than we even thought.
By the way, Politico reports, a panel of Republican insiders assembled by politico name Newt Gingrich as their favorite potential Trump VP candidate.
That happens to be mine as well.
GOP members of the political caucus, panel of activists, strategists, operatives, ten key battleground states, splintered this week when asked to suggest who Trump should select for the ticket.
Newt Gingrich, 13%.
Marco 9, Kasich 8, Condy 8, Ernst 7, Session 7.
I'd pick.
Here's what I'd do.
I'd do a team of rivals.
I've been talking about that forever.
I'd put I'd put Condi up there, I'd put Rudy up there, Christie up there, I'd put Ben Carson up there, I'd put Pam Bondy up there.
I'd put Bobby Gendal, I'd put Rick Perry up there.
You know, if Marco wanted to be on board, I'd put him up there.
I wish Marco would run for Senate in Florida again.
I really would like him to stay.
I think he learned a lesson, and I think he I don't know, I just think he would.
I still can't get over.
Paul Ryan is harsher on Donald Trump than he's ever been against Obama.
I'm so sick of it.
You know?
So I'm so sick of it.
And I have a question for Ryan and McConnell and all the rhinos who keep trying to undermine Donald Trump.
I really do.
You know what?
These guys need to shut up.
You know why?
Because they created Donald Trump.
They need to shut up because they didn't get the job done.
They need to shut up because they never stood up to Obama and his agenda, his radical agenda, the way they're standing up to Trump.
I'm really fed up with this.
They're doing everything they can do to sabotage this election.
I call it a circular firing squad.
My buddy David Horowitz called it a murder suicide pack today.
Anyway, but think back.
In 2010, remember the Tea Party?
Remember all of you.
We remember we recaptured the White House.
It wasn't long before John Boehner started whining that he really couldn't do much to roll back the Obama agenda.
The House is only one third.
Uh a one half of one third of the government.
Remember that?
The answer Boehner insisted, well, we needed a Senate.
Then we'll get some things done.
Meanwhile, he has the power of the purse.
He just chose not to use it because he didn't want to get blamed for a government shutdown.
Anyway, so they asked for the Senate.
They got the Senate.
Then we'll really act.
Then we'll use the power of the purse.
Then we'll stop executive action on amnesty.
All right, Mitch McConnell's the Senate majority leader.
Well, they caved on that whole promise in 2014 about executive amnesty.
You know, now today there's a golden opportunity.
The Trump agenda, conservative justices, he told you who they are.
He wants to balance the budget.
He wants to build the wall.
He's he's he's recognizing radical Islam, he's going to repeal Obamacare, he wants health care savings accounts, he wants to end common core, education back to the states, he wants better trade deals, wants to get Americans working again, he wants energy independence.
All of that is what he's campaigning on.
And a golden opportunity to get the House, the Senate, and the White House, and you have a dynamic candidate with some proven crossover appeal, more votes than any other Republican presidential candidate in a primary in American history, and they're working overtime to hurt him.
He doesn't share our values.
He's offended too many Democrats.
Well, here's a news flash for Ryan and McConnell.
If Donald Trump loses to Hillary, I'm blaming you.
He's beating Hillary in the polls until you two keep opening your big fat mouths And start whining and complaining and threatening your lawsuits.
And that goes for the rest of you people out there.
You anti-Trump people.
You're creating a vacuum for Hillary.
You can stick a fork in the Republican Party if that happens.
Kaput.
It'll be time for a new conservative party.
New nationalist conservative party.
That's what will emerge, I'm telling you right now.
I'm pleased to hear that the Senate will hold votes on preventing individuals with possible terrorist ties from buying guns, including assault weapons.
I truly hope that senators rise to the moment and do the right thing.
I hope that senators who voted no on background checks after New Town have a change of heart.
And then I hope the House does the right thing.
And helps end the plague of violence that these weapons of war inflict on so many young lives.
I've said this before, we will not be able to stop every tragedy.
We can't wipe away hatred and evil from every heart in this world.
But we can stop some tragedies.
We can save some lives.
We can reduce the impact of a terrorist attack if we're smart.
And if we don't act, we will keep seeing more massacres like this.
Because we'll be choosing to allow them to happen.
We will have said we don't care enough to do something about it.
Here in Orlando, we are reminded not only of our obligations as a country to be resolute against terrorism.
We are reminded not only of the need for us to implement smarter policies to prevent mass shootings.
This camera focusing on all the audience because every now and then, every time we have a conference, every time we invite a speaker, they always can come with the same accusations.
This speaker supports death penalty for homosexuals.
This speaker supports death penalty for this crime or this crime or that he is homophobic, they subjugate women, etc.
etc.
etc.
It's the same old stuff coming all the time.
And we always try to tell them, I always try to tell them that look, it's not that speaker that we're inviting who has these extreme radical views, as you say.
These are general views that every Muslim actually has.
Every Muslim believes in these things.
Just because they're not telling you about it, or just because they're not out there in the media doesn't mean they don't believe in them.
So I will ask you, everyone in the room, how many of you are normal Muslims?
You're not extremist, you're not radical, this is normal Sunni Muslims.
Please raise your hands.
Everybody, mashallah, subhanallah.
Okay, take down your hands again.
How many of you agree that men and women should sit separate?
Please raise your hands.
Everyone agree.
Everyone agree.
Brothers and sisters, subhanAllah.
So it's not just this radical shachstan.
Allahu Akbar.
Next question.
How many of you agree that the punishments described in the Quran and the Sunnah?
Whether it is death, whether it is stoning for adultery, whatever it is, if it is from Allah and His Messenger, that is the best punishment ever possible for humankind.
And that is what we should apply in the world.
Well, who agrees with that?
Allahu Akbar.
Are you all the radical extremists?
SubhanAllah.
So all of you are saying that you are common Muslims.
You all go to the different massages, no way.
Or is it are you like a specific sect like the Islam that sect or anything like that?
Are you like that?
No.
Is it are you like that?
Please raise your hand if you like this extreme Islam that sect or anything like that.
No one.
Allahu Akbar.
How many of you just go to this normal massaj in our the normal Sunni must?
Please raise your hands.
Allahu Akbar.
Yeah, many here, it's it's normal, right?
This isn't right.
You're not a radical if you don't think men and women should uh sit separately.
Allah Akbar.
It's it's normal For every Muslim to believe that adultery should be punished by stoning to death, gays should be executed if they are gay.
You know, that this applies world round.
We're not radical Muslims.
Allah Akbar, Allah Akbar.
This guy is Fahad Kharishi is his name, is an Islamic speaker telling the audience that the death penalty to gays and lesbians and subjugation of women are not views held by extremist Muslims, but no, not at all, but by regular, moderate, every single Muslim agrees.
And that's the tape right there for your own ears to hear.
Now, it does kind of highlight a lot of what I have been focused on lately, and that is okay, Hillary Clinton takes money from Saudi Arabia, $25 million for the Clinton Foundation, $10 million for the Clinton Library.
Women are told how to dress, they can't drive, they need permission to go to work or to school, marital rape not recognized.
Uh if you're homosexual, you can get the death penalty.
And by the way, uh don't build a temple or a church in Saudi Arabia that is illegal.
She took money, she never criticized them.
Millions and millions of dollars.
Similar story in Kuwait, the UAE, Brunei, Qatar, OMA, Algeria, and on and on and on, including, by the way, the government of Brunei.
All took money from them.
You know, ninety-four Americans now have been killed by radical Islamists on American soils in 9-11.
Our Department of Homeland Security forbids the use of the term jihad and sharia.
It's too disrespectful.
Uh, should we focus in on the fact well our Homeland Security Secretary says, well, right wingers pose the exact same threat as radical Islamists?
Should we think about the fact that the U.S. has resettled nearly three quarters of a million migrants from countries that execute gay people?
How do we know they want to assimilate?
How do we know that they want a better life for themselves, a life of freedom?
And while we're at it, why did the president give guns to uh uh gangsters and and drug dealers and cartels and kidnappers through Operation Fast and Furious?
Why did the president release known terrorists from Gitmo?
We know at least 40% have gone back to the battlefield.
Why did the president give 150 billion dollars to the number one state sponsor of terror?
That would be Iran.
By the way, Hillary was a part of all this, part of Fast and Furious, part of Gitmo detainees being released, part of the Iranian uh deal that was negotiated while she was Secretary of State.
She was Secretary of State when Obama gave Muhammad Morsi when he became president of Egypt after the Arab Spring.
Uh she was all part of the idea, a guy that referred to the Israelis as descendants of apes and pigs.
Well, he got tanks and F-16s and a billion and a half U.S. dollars.
Now, earlier in the week, I started a discussion on this program that I think we need to get into more depth and detail on.
And we had on the program a whistleblower by the name of Philip Haney, founding member of the Department of Homeland Security.
And I was so impressed, but also so frightened and and and frankly disgusted by what he told us that I I think we need to spend more time on this, and that is that he was ordered after Obama became president to scrub the names of Muslims that have ties to radical groups by his superiors.
Remember, he's a founding member of the Department of Homeland Security.
It's designed to keep us safe.
And that prevents us from connecting the dots.
Meaning, you know, if somebody is associated with a mosque or a group of people and his name's in a database, well, that might prevent uh a tragedy or a terrorist attack and save your life.
Anyway, he's back with us today, as well as Rich Higgins, who is the vice president, intelligence, national security programs, former manager of the Department of Defense, combating terrorism, technical support office, and irregular warfare support program.
Uh welcome both of you uh to the program.
Philip, welcome back.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate it.
All right, I laid a foundation here.
Um I want to start with you're a founding member of the Department of Homeland Security.
This was created in what, 2003 in response to 9-11, correct?
Correct, March 2003.
Mm-hmm.
So you're a founding member.
Now, in the course of your years working there, how many total years did you work there?
Twelve.
I retired honorably in July 31st, 2015.
I didn't ask you why.
Was there a reason why you retired early?
Well, after nine investigations, I thought it might be time to uh change my career.
I was old enough, I was sixty-two, so I took advantage of the fortuitous opportunity and retired at 62.
But you had had gov other government service before that.
Mm-hmm.
Fifteen years total service.
Okay.
So as a founding member, okay, you began the process of putting together suspected terrorists in our homeland in the for the purpose of protecting the American people.
That's you went to work with that responsibility every day.
Well, that was the mandate of our f founding that was our founding mandate to protect America from terrorism and from terrorist threats.
We all received a certificate as founding members from our first secretary, Tom Ridge, nicely signed, framable document, very simple mandate.
Protect America from terrorism.
That was it.
Okay.
And and you took your job, uh I think now having interviewed you twice, once on radio, once on TV, you you took your job, your responsibility very, very seriously.
Well, I maintain that if a man takes or a woman takes the oath of office as a person of integrity with their right hand raised, there's something that they can never do after that, and that's use that same right hand to cover their face and pretend that they don't see what's happening right in front of them.
And I was determined absolutely not to ignore what I saw right in front of me.
Okay.
Now, in the course of that period of time, you were uh a very integral part of building a database of people connected to groups that might want to hurt Americans in our homeland.
Is that a fair statement?
Oh, it's very fair.
I I focused my first organization that I focused on was the Muslim Brotherhood Network in the United States.
The second major group that I worked on was a large group out of the Asian subcontinent, meaning Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, probably Gijamaat, which is essentially an equivalent to the Muslim Brotherhood, but they grow up in a slightly different culture.
They speak Urdu and Pashtun instead of Arabic.
But other than that, very, very similar.
They're like two large branches on a big tree.
And I chose the I worked on those particular groups the entire time in my career.
Yeah.
All right.
And in the course of your career, when Sam Bernardino happened and you finally became a whistleblower, I know you work with Congressman Louis Gomer and some other people.
Um you were told in 2009 when Obama became president, something changed in terms of your job description, and you believe that because of this that incidents maybe like Orlando and San Bernardino could have been prevented had it not changed.
Is that a fair statement?
Sure, there's two components in law enforcement that are essential.
And if you don't have them both working together, you can never build a case to probable cause.
The first major component is the individual.
The other major component is the organization.
In order to build a case to probable cause, you have to be able to tie the individual to the organization's.
So obviously, you have to know a lot about the organizations.
You simultaneously have to know about a lot about the individuals that are affiliated with those organizations.
That's what we call connecting the dots.
And that was specialty.
In other words, it's connecting the dots is key because if you have the right database and you've you've built out the database over a period of years and you connect certain people to certain places to certain mosques to certain organizations that are connected to terror organizations, you have a you have a fighting chance to prevent a terrorist attack from happening.
Did do you know of any case, and I've never asked you this before.
Do you know of any case where you did prevent a terror attack based on the good work that you did?
What I can tell you is that I had multiple hundreds of law enforcement actions based on my cases that prevented people from coming into the country.
That I can tell you with certainty.
And I'm So I don't want I don't want you to just gloss over that.
In other words, because of your uh you know, you you you you remind me of the the kid in school that's the smartest kid in class, and I always was envious of that kid.
You know, you had the information, you'd bring it to law enforcement, preventing people from coming in here that probably had the intention of killing people.
Is that fair?
Well, I'll tell you, I was tremendous by the National Targeting Center for finding three hundred terrorists.
They put it in writing.
The letter that I was received when I was during my time of duty at National Targeting Center is in the back of the book.
see something, say nothing.
Because I understand that people may have a hard time actually believing what I'm saying.
So I tried to address that to remedy and put the letter in the back of the book, and it says right there, I received credit for finding 300 terrorists.
And I'd like to ask the question how many terrorists were involved in the Orlando, maybe one or two, maybe.
How many in San Bernardino?
Two, maybe three.
How about Chattanooga?
One.
How about Fort Hood?
One.
How about Boston Bombing?
Two, maybe three.
I was given credit for finding three hundred of them.
I I I not only are you smart, but you're humble.
All right, when we come back, I want to get into what happened and what changed in two thousand and nine.
Um also, Rich, I know you're being very patient.
You're a big part of the story.
We're gonna bring you in here.
I I just want to set the foundation.
So I appreciate your patience as well.
This is just too important to uh gloss over.
If you're just joining us, you're missing a lot here.
We have Philip Haney, founding member of the Department of Homeland Security, also Rich Hag Higgins, Vice President Intelligence, National Security Programs, former manager with the Department of Defense, combating terrorism, technical support office, and irregular warfare support program.
All right, Philip, I want you to finish your story.
So your job is to connect the dots.
Your job is to find terrorists.
You're credited with with finding over three hundred terrorists that want to commit harm on our homeland.
Founding member, Department of Homeland Security.
Now two thousand and nine comes, and you are given an edict, you are given an order.
What is it?
To put it in context, we have to keep in mind that this was a year after the conclusion of the largest terrorism trial in American history, the Holy Land Foundation trial.
A hundred and two convictions of five individuals connected to the Muslim Brotherhood for support of Hamas.
That's the case, by the way, the the group CARE was an unindicted co-conspirator.
Um I want to just interrupt you.
What do you think of that group care?
CARE was founded by members of Hamas here in the United States.
That's an irrefutably proven fact.
History does not change that fact.
Political correctness might try to.
Statements in the media might attempt to.
But the fact is it's proven.
You don't trust them.
I know what they really believe.
That's my specialty, the Muslim Brotherhood.
Then let me ask, before I finish this, you're raising too many good questions here.
The Muslim Brotherhood, it was formally headed up in the Middle East by a guy by the name of Muhammad Morsi, wasn't it?
Yeah.
And Mohammed Morsi became the prejud president of Egypt after the Arab Spring, correct?
There's several individuals.
They're called Supreme Guides, yes, but they're top of the organization.
And when he became the head of of Egypt, the president of Egypt, Obama and Hillary Clinton gave him F-16s and tanks and weapons.
Were they given that and money?
Were they giving that to a terrorist, the guy that once referred to the Israelis as descendants of apes and pigs?
Well, let's look at their motto.
We don't I don't have to surmise.
I just say what their motto says that dying for the Fis Sabil Allah and the cause of Allah is their highest aspiration, and that the Quran is their constitution, and that Mohammed is their prophet.
Their other part of their motto says Yayuda, which is derived from Quran H60, and it means prepare to terrify them with weapons of war.
That's right in their icon of their motto.
And this administration insists that be these people are moderate.
So this is a very important thing.
Well, let me bring in real go ahead.
Yeah, though no, that uh I'm I'm so glad you say that, but I I have to be fair to Rich Higgins here.
Uh before I get back to Philip, Rich, tell me your experience and and relate it to what Philip is just saying here.
Well, I think the most important point to note is that Phil is not alone in uh what happened to him.
Uh we saw across the national security apparatus in two thousand eleven a directed purge uh out of Department of Defense, the intelligence community, uh, the law enforcement community, the Department of Justice, the State Department, as well as Homeland Security where Phil was.
And uh right now what we're seeing is the uh catastrophic consequences of that.
Um when you say a purge you mean scrubbing the names that people like Phil and yourself accumulated since the founding of the Department of Homeland Security and maybe even prior.
I I think it's more holistic than that, Sean.
I think it's more uh more uh dangerous than that because what they're actually scrubbing is any references to the Islamic doctrine that would allow us to divine who is or is not actually one of our enemies.
So when somebody says they're a Muslim brother or a member of one of these other subversive groups, you know we we today in the United States still don't have the Muslim Brotherhood classified as a threat organization.
They're operating with impunity right now, today.
We saw Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated personnel on TV at the response to the Orlando massacre.
From inside the system...
But again, I want to just give a timeline here.
This all changed when Obama became president.
This is an Obama dictate.
The way I describe it to people is, during the Bush administration, immediately following 9-11, we would have, I'll call them Brotherhood-affiliated, and I'll put affiliated in quotes, personnel, the table or influencing decisions.
During the Obama administration they seemed to be making the decisions.
Wait a minute you're saying to me that people that had sympathy for radicals were making homeland security decisions?
Uh I'm saying that when you look at the deliberate decision making process of the United States government as it relates to radical Islam that deliberate decision making process is controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood and the way they control it is by prohibiting US national security personnel from ever developing an understanding to the level that Phil has it.
And and the point would be to hand this back to you Phil.
Phil, where did you learn what you know about Islam and the Muslim Brotherhood?
It started on the ground when I worked in the Middle East as an entomologist I would deliberately live away from the normal terrorist areas I'm not terrorist tourist areas and study the language and culture there on the ground and then I worked with people who are in the field farmers.
I studied Quranic Arabic language culture so when nine eleven came it wasn't theoretical for me.
I had already seen it up close and personal.
So I went right at it can I ask you both this question to what extent we always struggle with the the distinction between radical Islamists and Muslims and people that are peaceful and want to pursue their religion I've read the Quran I understand the literal interpretation based on your experience Phil and I ask you Rich the same question.
Phil first do you believe of Muslims in the Middle East are radicalized?
I'd like to address it in a slightly different way the way to ask the question is what percentage of Muslims believe in Sharia law.
Okay I love what I'm totally I I love what I'm totally corrected by a much smarter guest on the subject and ask my question for me.
Go ahead you ask the question and answer it.
Go ahead.
The gravitational force of the global Islamic movement is not radicalization.
The gravitational force of the global Islamic movement is implementation of Sharia law and the attempts to do that are tactical.
And some of those tactical event uh attempts or some of those tactics are identified arbitrarily as radical but it's actually all part of a bigger effort to make Sharia law implemented everywhere on the face of the earth and there is a spectrum of tactics some are calm, persuasive, other ones are violent and we call them radical but it's actually all the same gravitational force.
It just depends on how close to the gravity you are and what you're describing though is so when Hillary takes money from all these countries that practice Sharia law, she's really taking it from a group of people that want to influence the government of the United States of America and they're buying their they're at least buying her silence at the very least is that a fair statement well one of the things I learned as active duty doing vetting of Saudi students coming in on what we call F one student visas
is that their primary purpose for being here in the United States was not to get a degree.
It was to promote Islam.
And they were reminded of that in every class, every group that came in every year at the Muslim Student Association groups around the country, the different organizations, remember why you're here is to promote and represent Islam in the United States of America.
But the gold is a worldwide dominating caliphate with Sharia law as the law of the world.
Yes it's in Quran two, verse one ninety through one ninety-three that is the most concise explanation of the global strategic and tactical reasons goals of the of Islam that you'll find anywhere in the Quran it tells you exactly what they intend to do and how they intend to go about it in three or four very concise verses Quran two, one ninety through one ninety three.
Rich, do you agree with that assessment?
I agree with that assessment to bring it back to the point earlier about uh you know the United States being put to work fulfilling the objectives of the Brotherhood you know the Brotherhood was killed en masse by Saddam Hussein.
We removed him.
Qaddafi killed the Muslim Brotherhood.
We removed him we asked Mubar to go Ben Ali Fale.
It we are their instrument because they control our deliberate decision making process.
And then in reaction to the terrorist attacks here, which I'm not sure the Muslim Brotherhood wants to actually have happened here.
I think they'd much rather see us uh sort of passively managed rather than awoken like we are right now and people though again for the the past week at least have had their attention on this we see the left in the United States doing the job of our enemy.
The left the left is the the tool they're using to have thought and speech controls let me let me ask a broader question.
We watched the Islamization of Europe.
Even Great Britain has eighty eight separate Sharia courts uh we see the influx of refugees we know in this country our top intelligence officials are warning that refugees will be infiltrated by ISIS and other terrorist groups but yet the President Hillary Clinton insist anyway.
My question is is Europe gone, Philip is Europe in in the process of changing dramatically and has it been Islamised if you will let's just put it in perspective of history these kind of things have happened before over the course of the 1400 years that Islam has existed.
There was a time when they swept all the way across North Africa and conquered every single country we know of today in North Africa then crossed into Europe across the Straits of Gibraltar in the year 7 Eleven and they were only stopped by Charles Martell at the Battle of Tours in 732 exactly 100 years after Mohammed died way back over there in Saudi Arabia.
So he's seen these precedents before.
Then historical events like the siege of Vienna, twice.
The fall of Istanbul, or the fall of Constantinople, 500 years ago.
And the Barberry Pirates slave trading operation that went on for a thousand years in the Mediterranean basin.
That's when America encountered jihad, when they encountered slave traders in the Mediterranean.
That's why they built a ship called the USS Constitution, to essentially defend jihad.
the Constitution of the United States and that's why the Marine Corps song from the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli has that in there.
The USS Constitution sailed into the Mediterranean and openly confronted the Barbary pirates and bombarded their fortress in Tripoli and repatriated a crew of men from a ship called the Philadelphia that's history and we've seen this over and over and over again through time.
Most of it never came up on our radar and we're not I don't I hate interrupt your thought process do you believe that this that they will be that this is now growing into a force that is at at a magnitude of force that is so great that there is a coming worldwide battle over this advancing caliphate.
Is in other words are we able to stop it nip it in the bud or is it inevitable now that there's going this is not going to end well.
We have a strong defense we have a solid foundation to stand on if we will avail ourselves of it.
It's called the U.S. Constitution the geniuses our founding fathers created a checks and balance form of government that's was designed to protect us from lawless or unilateral decisions that are being made now here in our country vis-a-vis foreign and domestic counterterrorism policy.
What we need is a political revival to go back to the U.S. Constitution and begin implementing the provisions that were built into that constitution to protect us from these kind of threat.
This is the first and foremost obligation of the U.S. government.
Protect its citizens from threat, both foreign and domestic.
And I can also tell you that if we don't address it voluntarily with courage and conviction now, we're going to be can addressing it involuntarily, and that we're going to be in a much greater disadvantage than we already are right now.
But no, I'm not going to be able to do that.
I am going to I am going to tell Donald Trump about both of you and get this tape to him.
Uh Rich, I want to give you the last 45 seconds we have.
I know I spent a little more time on Phil today, but not by design, uh, but I want you to give your final thoughts here.
Sean, I was learning as much as you are.
The man's brilliant.
Uh I I just think it's really important to understand that every time one of these attacks happens in the United States, you see the left in unison with the Muslim Brotherhood immediately respond with direct attacks on the first and second amendment.
That is not by accident.
And we're going to continue to see that.
And I think the uh the American people need to be aware of that.
They need to see it as it's happening, and they need to call their politicians on it.
Uh last thing is I think as we move forward on the Europe question.
Uh I've watched uh for the past twenty years as Europe has slipped lowly circling the drain.
Uh I think they're not going to escape uh without a major conflagration of some sort, whether that's a revolution, counter-revolution, the far right movement.
It's not going to be pretty.
And I'll just leave that as my assessment for now.
All right.
I want to thank you both.
You both are real American heroes to me.
I thank you for all the work you did and the courage in speaking out.
Um I'm sure you've taken a lot of heat for it.
I know you have, and uh, we are not going to end this discussion here.
We will continue it because I think it's imperative that people fully understand exactly the nature of the threat that you're both describing and fought against for all these years.
Thank you both.
Sean, thank you.
Uh I'll continue to tell the truth campaign.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
Phil, you're you're listening I would be best friends with you in school because you're the smartest kid in the class, and I would want to I'd want to copy on your paper.
Uh but seriously, you were I re I really wouldn't.
I just asked you to help me study, that's all.
Well, that I would do I know you would.
All right, thank you for all you've done.
We're gonna be in touch.
Thank you.
I'm Ami Horowitz, and I'm here in Williamsburg, Brooklyn.
The terrorists who struck Orlando claimed allegiance to ISIS.
So clearly, Islam played a role in his thinking.
Right?
Uh no, no.
I don't think it had much to do with this to be honest.
Okay.
I think it was another situation of lonely, strange male.
You would say it's unfair to to say the Islam had a role.
I don't think it's fair to say Islam made a role in this but I don't think it was an Islamic crime.
So you think I don't do this?
No.
I don't think it was a terrorist.
People are not evil.
This is ignorance.
Republicans uh or Islam?
Who who would you blame more?
I think I have to put it more on the Republicans in Islam.
100% the Republicans.
Guns, Republicans, Islam.
Guns way more than Islam.
Way more.
And if you're gonna blame Islam, you're gonna blame all the religions.
You can find the yoga community.
Yes, you can find researchers with radical yoga people.
I don't think uh Islam is starting to be able to do that.
Islam as a whole is a very peaceful like religion, very peaceful people.
Democracies in the Middle East, which have more women elections than we do here in the U.S., right?
more women elected to like...
Really?
Yeah, yeah!
I mean, just as peaceful as any other religion, honestly.
Like, Christianity, but on the same kind of level?
What was the last kind of Christian attack you could think of, you know, that was made in the middle of Jesus or the name of Christianity?
Uh-huh.
I can't really think of any, but...
Crusades?
Crusades, yeah.
But, I mean, again, that was 15 years ago, so that's a long time ago, but...
We are so screwed.
We really are people that dumb.
Twenty-five now till the top of the hour.
Happy Friday, final half hour Sean Hannity show, and joining us that was Ami Horowitz heading To the streets of Williamsburg in Brooklyn, New York, asking all the hipsters that live there what they thought about the attacks in Orlando.
Of course, it's Republicans' fault.
It's Donald Trump's fault.
It's the guns' fault.
How could they be so wrong?
He joins us along with DC McAllister, a political commentator, writer for Conservative Review, and uh by the way, herself studied theology in uh seminary and worked as a Christian apologist.
I never knew that about you until recently.
How are you?
I'm doing well.
Thanks for having me.
Are you really that smart?
Am I outmatched here and outgunned?
I went to a seminary for and I had to study Latin and theology.
I'm I think I'm outgun, though.
Oh, you might be a little bit.
Just a little bit, though.
Uh all right.
Uh Ami, so tell us so you go into Williamsburg, you do your thing.
I mean, we've got to point out to the audience because there are people all over the country saying, God help us, are people really that dumb?
And the answer is yes, but this is New York, and this is a very liberal state, and that's a very liberal part of the state, correct?
Absolutely.
But but but I God, you cannot Sean, you can't call them stupid or dumb.
They're neither of those things, okay?
It's a it's a pathology.
It's you know, and I'm so sick and tired of the incessant pathological need for the left to rehabilitate the the image of Islam.
Right?
And it's pathological, Sean, because Islam stands against everything the left stands for.
Right?
I mean, and they have this weird, bizarre need to try to normalize and make normative Islam and Islamic belief.
And I'm sick and I'm so jacked up, Sean.
I I had to cut down my expressos today.
I'm so pissed off about this.
All right, but here here's what I don't understand, okay?
And I'll throw this to DC.
DC, I'm looking at Hillary Clinton.
I'm I've turned this into a political issue.
And I keep going back to this because I'm shocked there's not outrage.
She she claims the mantle of being a champion of women's rights, gay rights, lesbian rights, bisexual rights, transsexual rights, and and religious freedom.
And yet you cannot build a temple, a church in Saudi Arabia.
Women m are told what to wear, whether they can dr they can't drive, whether they can even leave the house and they've got to leave with a with a male relative if they do leave.
Gays and lesbians, well, that act is punishable by death, and she takes twenty-five million dollars from them, ten more million for the Clinton Library.
Similar story with countries like Kuwait, the UAE, uh Brunei, uh Qatar, OM, Algeria, et cetera.
It goes on and on.
And she somehow has sold us this notion, oh, Republicans are guilty of a war on women.
Because Bitt Romney carried around women's resumes for crying out loud, or Donald Trump thinks a woman is attractive and said so.
It's ridiculous.
We had the binders full of women, right?
Well, instead of ignoring the Islam, they bind women.
I mean, this is you you're not the one who made this political with her.
She made this political, and the left is making this political.
And it's because they see the greater threat to their power coming from Republicans than they do Islamist.
And it's ridiculous because they don't.
But let me let me help me understand that.
Because here I am a conservative, and for years on this program.
I have been talking about uh gays being executed under Sharia.
For years I've talked about women being treated horribly under Sharia, and in that same period of time, the great champion of of gay lesbian and women's rights, Hillary, is taking millions from these countries and saying nothing about life and oppression under the for for these groups under Sharia.
That's because she only cares cares about her own power.
I mean, that's happening overseas.
That's out of sight, out of mind for them.
It does her no good to advance her own agenda by going after them.
It does everything for her own agenda to delegitimize the right, to delegitimize conservatives and republicans because they're the ones who are threatening her power here.
And so, and and people just aren't thinking about what's actually going on in these other countries and how it is being brought here onto our soil until this happened to our Orlando.
And even now people are saying, you know, this wasn't just about Islam, this wasn't even about Islam.
But yet targeting gays is very much a part of Islam, and it's in our faces, and now we're still living in denial and left.
I mean, would it would it have been any different if this guy in Orlando, if there were a group of women out, uh just women only dancing, uh, which is forbidden, or maybe mixing with men and and they don't like that either under Sharia.
I mean, it seems to me just as likely a possible scenario, correct?
Exactly.
I think he cased different places.
I mean he had different ideas for different places.
He settled on this one probably because of his own self loathing, as we're finding out.
You know, it's so yet it's it doesn't matter what the target is, if you're an infidel, you're an infidel.
And that's what people need to understand.
We're all in this together against a common enemy.
And we're not seeing that and so we're not seeing the enemy and actually doing what we need to do to connect the dots and realize what's motivating these people.
But you got you guys are missing the point.
The point of what these people are trying to do is they're trying to express the ultimate view, which is cultural relativity, right?
You are a racist if you say that our culture, our way of thought and living is superior to theirs.
Despite the fact that every statistic in the world never mind, you know, women it's not about women gays and women.
I mean when when the San Bordino killers who did the exact same thing they did uh uh uh McKean did Pledge Allegiance to ISIS he didn't kill uh wasn't targeting gays or women he was targeting his co-workers it doesn't make a difference it doesn't make a difference and that's a really good point this is about relativism you know it's just it's all relative.
There are no absolutes right and wrong there's no good and evil and so and no one wants to call evil out and actually since our Orlando we've already taken in nearly five hundred Syrian refugees and by the way yesterday our CIA director joined our FBI director,
our assistant FBI director, our national director of intelligence, uh our House Homeland Security chairman, and our former special envoy to defeat ISIS who all warned that ISIS will infiltrate that refugee population and the president and Hillary Clinton want to gamble with the lives of Americans.
I said last night on TV.
You know, we're gonna report sooner or later that one of these refugees goes on a spree and kills people.
And I said if that happens after the warnings that were ignored by the President and Hillary, they will have blood on their hands.
Hillary wants to bring in five hundred times more than Obama's willing to bring in.
It's already happened in Europe.
I mean why are we closing our eyes Belgium, Paris?
Exactly.
How can we be surprised the Pew poll did did uh Pugh did a poll across across the Islamic world earlier this year.
Forty percent of the Islamic world forty percent would not condemn ISIS okay?
We're not talking about a radical see that that's the the well we have to put the the lie we have to put to bed that it's a simply a small small is it because they're but wait a minute is it because they're afraid to be labeled an apostate penalty for apostasism being death?
No, this is not this is not something that they were uh uh singing at the rooftops a private poll done by Pugh Okay?
We're talking about a significant percent of the population which hold radical beliefs.
Okay, forget the 40% the majority of the Islamic world according to an ADL poll is anti-Semitic.
Do you want these kind of thoughts brought into our country?
I don't Europe is seeing the the result of that today.
They don't people don't understand that there is no line of separation between the church or the mosque and the political realm.
What is religious about in Islam is political it may not always be violent but it's political and so they want transformation of those around them.
And that means us because we are not Islamic so we need to convert or we need to die.
Or we could be uh demi second class citizens.
Or do yeah and pay a hefty fine like Christians do all we do is we have higher taxes in the Islamic world.
Right.
Yeah you get you get three choices in in the Middle East you can die, you can convert, or you can pay a whole lot to the mob and stay alive but you can't talk about your faith.
But in the Sean you think I was listening I was listening to your tape and listening to the stupidity of the answers.
You you reject stupidity but I think there's a lot of ignorance.
I mean I really do.
I I I you think it's pathological I think it's indoctrination, pathological and stupidity all combined and I think the left doesn't want to think and and they certainly they're more concerned about how they're viewed in the through the prism or the lens of of is this acceptable thought political correctness et cetera but you know the great irony in all of this and I've been pointing out to my audience is you're dealing with people in the case of Obama and Hillary that were responsible for giving guns.
Remember they're blaming guns, but giving guns to gangsters and drug cartels and kidnappers and not putting any tracking devices on it vis vis and furious you know it started during Hillary's term as Secretary of State the negotiations at the time with Ahmadinejad a hundred and fifty billion to Iran and they spend their centrifuges and they can build missile defense,
and it continued with Gitmo releasing terrorists back into the battlefield, and it continued also with the Muslim Brotherhood, uh and Mohammed Morsi, a former head of the Brotherhood that once referred to Israelis as descendants of apes and pigs, you know, and they worried about me and my my Glock 40 that I carry every day.
It's ridiculous.
They misunderstand the problem, obviously.
Listen, if if this guy didn't have and I didn't put it in the video, but I asked the same question.
If this guy didn't have a gun, do you think he wouldn't have used a bomb?
Last time I checked, the Boston bombers used a bomb.
The the the sh the uh shoe bomber used a bomb.
The underwear bomber used a bomb.
If they don't have access to guns, that's fine.
They'll use knives, box cutters, bombs, whatever they have at their disposal, but this is the refusal of the left to see the reality of the world as it is today.
You know, the president said, DC, that, well, you know, you know, the the right, their answer is they hope somebody in there has a gun too.
And I'm like, well, if I'm in San Bernardino, if I'm in Pulse Nightclub, not that I'm a big nightclub person at my old age, but if I was there, uh, or if I would and I didn't didn't have a gun, I would hope a good person did.
Because that person can save lives.
Now, if I am there, I I'm not only trained in the use of martial arts and and weaponry and guns, I do blade and and gun training and disarmament disarmament of people, but you know, I would be able to stop when that guy stopped to reload or check his Twitter account or text his wife.
I would have been able to step in and maybe prevent further death.
We should be able to protect ourselves, and they're focusing on the very thing that we need to protect ourselves instead of what they need to be focusing on is the ideology that's driving this rat this terrorism.
And I agree with you.
I mean, if I were in the nightclub, I'd even want to be near someone who has a gun or have a gun myself.
I want to be able to protect myself because you don't know what to do.
I think more women need to get armed.
I really do.
I think women you and I'm not saying go out and go buy a gun.
I'm saying go out and get trained in the use of a firearm.
I've been a marksman since I'm eleven.
And and now that I've been doing martial arts nearly five years, but ask Ami.
I put him in a headlock and I was gonna choke him out the other day when he was in studio, he was a little shocked.
He did, it was awesome.
Sean, not everybody is a superhero like you, and not everybody has the kung fu grip, use their hands as a deadly weapon.
But I'll tell you this the truth is, if you really think about it, being anti-gun and trying to keep guns out of the hands of law buying civilians is anti-feminist.
Because the reality is women have a if a woman is facing down a thug with a knife, okay, not every not every woman could could could react the same way you can.
But they need a gun to equalize it.
The truth is you're anti-woman if you're not pro-gun for law-abiding civilians.
I just asked liberals, well, what do you do if someone breaks into your house?
Well, I'm gonna call the police.
You you're dead.
You're done.
It's over.
You go ahead, last word, DC.
I was gonna say, I mean, yes, I agree with you.
I women are weak compared to men.
It's a myth to think that we're not, and we need to be able to defend ourselves.
But we also need our government to do the right thing and be able to identify our enemy and do what it can to stop them.
Instead of playing in games and political games and just focusing on guns and silliness.
They need to t start looking at the enemy and targeting them.
All right, D. C. McAllister, Ami Horowitz, thank you both.
