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	Now, I got a couple of questions for you here today.
	Everybody on the left talking about somehow guns responsible and banning and guns and gun laws and new laws and those laws.
	And now, I want to just have a reality check here for most people because this is really important.
	Is this the same Obama administration, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton?
	Are these the people that ran Operation Fast and Furious that killed Brian Terry, a border agent, and killed dozens of other people on both sides of the borders?
	Our government giving guns without GPS, let's see, to criminal gang organizations and gangsters and kidnappers and drug dealers.
	And we never even track them.
	But they're going to talk about the need to take away the rights of law-abiding citizens?
	Seriously?
	Are the people that lecture you about guns?
	Let me see.
	How many of them have armed guards by their side 24-7?
	President, by the way, we got to protect our president.
	We got to protect our vice president.
	We got to protect our presidential candidates.
	I'm all in favor of the finest protection for political, high-ranking political officials in our country.
	That goes from mayors, city council people.
	I don't care what their politics are.
	There are nutty people out there.
	They need to be protected.
	But so do you have the right to protect your family, and you don't have those security guards.
	Now, are these the same people?
	I'm just checking.
	The same administration, the same Obama, the same Hillary Clinton.
	Let me see.
	Aren't they the people that released known terrorists at Guantanamo Bay and sent them back?
	Some 40% we've been able to confirm went back to the battlefield to commit more acts of terrorism after our brave men and women were able to capture these people.
	Oh, that wasn't a very smart move.
	That didn't protect us.
	Aren't these the same people?
	Hillary Clinton, it started when she was Secretary of State, Barack Obama.
	The negotiations, even though they lied and said it started much later than they did, we have now proven, thanks to great Fox reporting by James Rosen and some other people, that the negotiations with the Iranians started almost on day one of the Obama administration.
	And then we end up giving the Iranians, the number one state sponsor of terror, $150 billion.
	And what can they do with that?
	Well, they get to continue to spin their centrifuges.
	We don't have any place, anytime inspections.
	We get 24 days' notice so they can clean up their mess and cover their tracks.
	On top of that, we gave them permission to build missile defense in case either we or allies, Israel, need to take out their nuclear facilities.
	Oh, we got a problem because now it's part of this deal.
	They get to build missile defense with Vladimir Putin, Mr. Russian reset himself.
	It's unbelievable to me.
	$150 billion to the number one state sponsor of terror.
	Isn't this the same Hillary Clinton, the same Barack Obama after the Arab Spring?
	Remember the rise of Mohamed Morsi?
	Nobody was more outspoken about him than I was.
	He was once the head of the Muslim Brotherhood.
	The Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization.
	Okay, he becomes the president of Egypt.
	And what did our president, what did our Secretary of State Hillary Clinton do?
	Let's see.
	They gave him tanks, F-16s, and a billion and a half U.S. dollars to do whatever they feel they need to do with that.
	Like, really?
	That doesn't make sense either, but they want to take away your guns.
	And we've got Syrian refugees.
	Now, this is just breaking.
	I can't even believe I'm going to report this.
	This was on Breitbart.com.
	Do you know that since Orlando, which is not even a week old now, 441 Syrian refugees have been admitted to the United States just since the Orlando attack and dozens of them in Florida?
	Unbelievable to me.
	Now it gets worse.
	The AP, oh, yeah, of course they're not being vetted.
	How could you possibly vet?
	ISIS has said that they will infiltrate the refugee population.
	I'm going to get to all of our intelligence officials in a second.
	They've all said the same thing.
	Now, if and when Donald Trump becomes the president, I sure hope he uses his pen and his phone with the same frequency that Barack Obama did.
	I think one of his promises to America needs to be: we will undo every illegal, unconstitutional executive order of the president because not only is Trump going to have to deal with the Republican congressional leadership that is doing everything they can do to sabotage his candidacy in his campaign, but he's going to have to take on a federal judiciary that's hell-bent on subverting the will of the American people.
	The AP reports today that the state of Texas and their efforts to stop the arrival of Syrian refugees has now been blocked by a liberal federal judge who rejected leaders' claims that the refugees pose an imminent risk or that states deserve to have a say in resettlement.
	In other words, if the state of Texas doesn't want to roll the dice with refugees, that let's see, our FBI director, our National Director of Intelligence, our former special envoy to defeat ISIS, our House Homeland Security Chairman, our assistant FBI director, all of whom have said, including today, John Brennan, our own CIA director, said today he's admitting that himself, whoops,
	we haven't done a very good job on dealing with terrorists.
	I'm like, you'd think?
	Anyway, so now Texas has to take them.
	I say we can move them in next to the White House, and then maybe when the president moves to his $20,000 a month palatial estate that he's going to run, maybe we can move them there.
	If Hillary wants to adopt them, maybe she can move them next to their house in Chappaqua, D.C., or any of their many mansions.
	I don't think that would be such a bad idea.
	Now, I want to point out to you, I want to go through this.
	This government that keeps talking about your guns, this government that screwed up royally because the guy responsible in Orlando, let's see, he cheered on 9-11.
	He said he was a member of al-Qaeda and connected to Hezbollah.
	He said he wanted to be a martyr.
	And for 10 months, the FBI investigated him, and then they took him off the watch list.
	If he was on the watch list, he wouldn't have been able to buy the gun.
	But that's the same government that gave guns through the program Fast and Furious to criminals and gangs and drug dealers and drug pushers.
	That's the same government that gave the number one state sponsor of terror $150 billion, a ridiculous inspection plan that would never work, and the right to build missile defense and conventional weapons.
	The same people that gave Mohamed Morsi, the guy that once called Jews descendants of apes and pigs, when he became president of Egypt, they gave him tanks, F-16s, and a billion and a half dollars.
	The same people that released terrorists from Gitmo.
	And then now the same people that are insisting.
	Now, I'm going to play for you all of our national security people.
	I've got a whole list here of names of people, and I'm going to play them for you, all warning that, in fact, ISIS will infiltrate the refugee population.
	Now, is that going to stop them from doing something stupid?
	Apparently not, because they're going forward with it.
	Now, you're going to hear from Clapper and Comey and Steinbeck and General John Allen, the former envoy to defeat ISIS.
	You're going to hear from the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, Mike McCall, and all these people, including John Brennan today, our CIA director.
	Despite all our progress against ISIS on the battlefield and in the financial realm, our efforts have not reduced the group's terrorism capability and global reach.
	Then he went on to say, yes, they will infiltrate the refugee population.
	Let's play it all together because President Obama and Hillary Clinton are willing to gamble with your life in spite of these top intelligence officials saying this.
	ISIL has a large cadre of Western fighters who could potentially serve as operatives for attacks in the West.
	And the group is probably exploring a variety of means for infiltrating operatives into the West, including in refugee flows, smuggling routes, and legitimate methods of travel.
	To what degree do you believe that ISIS will continue to attempt to infiltrate their refugee flows?
	Ma'am, I think that they are doing that today.
	What we have seen growing in the past months and year is that in that flow of refugees, we see criminality, terrorism, and foreign fighters.
	And I know that doesn't sound like a distinction, but I see a distinction in the latter two.
	And so this criminality, the terrorist, and the returning foreign fighters are clearly a daily part of the refugee flow now.
	We have heard from some on the Hill who say there is a potential jihadi pipeline if we bring these refugees in quickly and they call it a national security threat.
	Do you agree?
	I think we should watch it.
	We should be conscious of the potential that Daesh may attempt to embed agents within that population.
	I think that's the challenge we're all talking about, is that we can only query against that which we have collected.
	So if someone has never made a ripple in the pond in Syria in a way that would get their identity or their interests reflected in our database, we can query our database until the cows come home, but we're not going to, there'll be nothing show up because we have no record on that person.
	That's what Assistant Director Steinbach was talking about.
	You can only query what you've collected.
	And with respect to Iraqi refugees, we had far more in our databases because of our country's work there for a decade.
	This is a different situation.
	Of course, as they descend on Europe, one of the obvious issues that we worry about and in turn, as we bring refugees to this country, is exactly what their background.
	I don't obviously put it past the rights of ISIL to infiltrate operatives and then these refugees.
	So that is a huge concern of ours.
	Some fear that some of these refugees may actually be posing as refugees, but they might actually be al-Qaeda or ISIS terrorists trying to sneak into Europe or the United States.
	What do you make of that?
	Well, certainly that's a possibility.
	I mean, you can't dismiss that out of hand.
	Director Rasmussen, Mr. Steinbeck, would that bring in Syrian refugees pose a greater risk to Americans?
	I mean, it's clearly a population of concern.
	And as Under Secretary Taylor said, what we want to be able to do is apply the full weight of U.S. intelligence community holdings to the vetting and screening process.
	Mr. Steinbeck?
	Yeah, I'm concerned.
	We'll have to take a look at those lists and go through all the intelligence holdings and be very careful to try and identify connections to foreign terrorist groups.
	Now, in the past, it would take anywhere between 18 and 24 months to vet one person.
	Obama now has reduced that to three months.
	That means the vetting will not be comprehensive.
	So now, today, as of today, the CIA director, we have the top U.S. military commander in Europe, Air Force General Philip Breedlove.
	We have Obama's former top envoy in the coalition to defeat ISIS, General John Allen, FBI Director Comey, Assistant FBI Director Michael Steinbeck, the U.S. National Director of Intelligence, James Clapper, State Department spokesman, John Kirby.
	We have more than that.
	We have House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Mike McCall, all saying the same thing.
	ISIS will infiltrate the refugee population.
	By the way, ISIS says it themselves.
	They're telling us.
	They did it in Belgium.
	They did it in Paris.
	We've had 94 Americans killed on American soil since 9-11.
	The Department of Homeland Security forbids the use of the term jihad and sharia.
	Why?
	Because they're too disrespectful.
	And the same Department of Homeland Security admits that illegal immigrants who overstate visas almost never get caught.
	And remember the father I had on the other day.
	Here's an illegal immigrant rapes a woman, keeps her captive a week, and then his son is shot by the same guy because he got released, not sent back to his home country.
	Does it matter that the United States has resettled nearly three-quarters of a million migrants from countries that execute gays and lesbians?
	Jay Johnson now saying gun control is a matter of Homeland Security?
	Oh, and by the way, my favorite quote, right-wingers pose the same threat as Islamic extremism.
	Since Orlando, 441 Syrian refugees admitted to the U.S. in spite of every intelligence leader in this country warning ISIS will infiltrate that population.
	They're doing three months vetting when they should be doing 18 to 24 months.
	Unbelievable.
	Also, when we come back, we're going to talk about Hillary Clinton and all the money she took from countries that persecute women, gays, lesbians, Christians, and Jews.
	We've got the full rundown for you.
	Nobody else in the media will do it.
	We will.
	That's my job.
	We'll come under fire for it, as usual.
	We'll do the job that they didn't do in 2007 and 2008.
	We'll vet Hillary like we vetted Obama.
	Wait till you hear what I have coming up.
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	I want to tell you something about that.
	Is I guess now reaching into the media.
	Why?
	It's because I guess that's what the media does.
	They make issues that really are not an issue, it's issues.
	But I have a second cousin of mine.
	His name is Ed Henson.
	He is a highly, highly decorated, retired NYPD detective.
	I mean, he's got more honors than anybody that I really know that's ever been on the NYPD.
	He was a 9-11 responder.
	He spent months down at ground zero.
	He was a Flight 587 first responder.
	He is a second cousin of mine.
	He is the owner of the store that ended up selling those guns to the guy in Orlando.
	Every single indication is that he followed, by the way, he's a law and order guy to the max.
	That he followed every Florida state law as a licensed dealer, 20 some odd years on the NYPD as a detective first grade.
	And also, the ATF has acknowledged no laws at all were broken by him or his store.
	And as I have now been saying for days, my prayers, my thoughts, my condolences go out to the families and the loved ones of all victims.
	Anyway, I just wanted to get that out there because media inquiries.
	It's unbelievable.
	Let me start here with this issue.
	Saudi Arabia.
	Okay, we know about Saudi Arabia, don't we?
	Women are told how to dress in Saudi Arabia.
	Women are told they can't drive in Saudi Arabia.
	Women, they need permission to work or to travel in Saudi Arabia.
	By the way, did you know that marital rape is not recognized in Saudi Arabia?
	Do you know that in Saudi Arabia, if you're caught committing certain acts, gay or lesbian, that's punishable by death?
	You know what?
	You want to build a church, a Catholic church, a Christian church, a temple in Saudi Arabia?
	That's illegal.
	Hillary Clinton took up to $25 million from Saudi Arabia for the Clinton Foundation.
	Clinton, also, the Clinton Library for Bill Clinton, they got $10 million from Saudi Arabia for the Clinton Library.
	Let's see.
	In Kuwait, you know, in Kuwait, courts deny women the right to become public prosecutors.
	They can't be judges.
	No laws in Kuwait against domestic violence.
	Also, homosexual activity between men is illegal, punishable by up to seven years in prison and a fine.
	The Clinton Foundation took up to $5 million from them.
	Let's go to the United Arab Emirates, the UAE.
	Well, they donated up to $5 million also.
	Men have the legal right to discipline their wives through physical violence.
	Marital rape is not recognized in the UAE.
	And by the way, same-sex marriage is illegal.
	All sexual activity outside of marriage is illegal.
	You know, in some of these countries under Sharia, women only are stoned to death for adultery, not the men.
	Let's go to Brunei.
	They also gave money to the Clinton Foundation, up to $5 million.
	There too, marital rape is not a crime, as long as the wife is not under the age of 13.
	You don't make this up.
	Also, if you're gay or lesbian, anyway, that's illegal and punishable by up to 10 years in prison.
	In Qatar, let's see, another up to $5 million donated to the Clinton Foundation.
	Marital rape, not a crime.
	Law states that it's a woman's responsibility to obey her husband.
	And by the way, if you're gay or lesbian, that's punishable by death.
	Oman, by the way, they donated up to $5 million to the Clinton Foundation.
	A woman's consent is not required to legalize a marriage.
	Marital rape is not a crime.
	By the way, if you're gay or lesbian, that's illegal, and that's punishable by up to six months to three years in prison.
	Algeria, they only donated up to $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation.
	There too, marital rape is not a crime.
	Married women under 18 may not travel abroad without permission from their husbands.
	And by the way, if you're gay, that's illegal, and that's punishable up to two years in prison and a fine.
	And by the way, even the Washington Post reported that many Middle Eastern countries donated over $1 million to the Clinton Library.
	Let's see, we got Kuwait and Qatar and UAE as well as governments of Taiwan and Brunei.
	Oh, Brunei is another state.
	I haven't talked about them.
	Yeah, by the way, being gay or lesbian there, that's punishable by death.
	They also gave up to $5 million to the Clinton Foundation.
	So what you have is countries that practice the most oppressive, that have the most oppressive treatment of women, gays, lesbians, Christians, and Jews.
	And it took Donald Trump to shame Hillary Clinton this week into saying, oh, they've got to change.
	But she took, and her husband took this money years ago.
	Now, imagine if Donald Trump took money from countries where men get to tell women, we're going to marry you whether you like it or not.
	Oh, marital rape is not a crime.
	Oh, we need four male eyewitnesses to prove rape if you're a woman.
	Oh, and men get to tell you how to dress.
	Men get to tell you if you get to go to work or school.
	In Saudi Arabia, men decide if you leave the house and you can't leave the house without a male relative.
	If you're gay and lesbian, you either are put in prison, fined, or both, or you're put to death.
	You can't build a temple.
	You can't build a church.
	So you've got the most oppressive regimes giving the Clintons millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars.
	And she claims the mantle of being the great champion of women's rights, gay rights, lesbian rights, bisexual, transgender rights, and the great champion of religious freedom.
	And the media, where is the media?
	This to me is like Bernadine Dorn and Bill Ayres all over again.
	Who's going to ask Hillary?
	You know, in every interview, I've known Ivanka Trump for many, many years.
	She's a lovely girl.
	She's a really nice kid.
	To me, she's a kid.
	She's not a kid anymore.
	She has three kids herself.
	But, you know, I've known Don Jr. for a long time.
	I've known Eric for a long time.
	Every interview I see, Ivanka Trumpet, but what about your father's treatment of women?
	Is anybody going to ask Chelsea?
	But forget Chelsea.
	Leave the kids alone.
	Is anyone going to ask Hillary, why did you take money from countries that abuse women, abuse gays and lesbians, abuse Christians, and abuse Jews?
	And why did you never speak out about their practices?
	Even though they bought you off and bought your silence, why did you take that money?
	You remember during 9-11 when Rudy Giuliani for the Twin Towers Fund, what was that guy from Saudi Arabia, tried to say that Israel somehow, I don't remember the exact comment, was responsible for in part what happened on 9-11.
	And Rudy Giuliani said, take your $10 million and shove it.
	That's blood money.
	What's the difference here?
	And all the people out there that think, well, Donald Trump once called Rosie O'Donnell a bad name.
	Oh, that's horrible.
	Why are you not offended at this?
	Because when it comes to the Clintons, it's always about the money.
	When it comes to the Clintons, it absolutely has nothing to do with this phony facade that they put out there, that they care, that they're the champions of the rights of women, gays, lesbians, minorities, et cetera.
	It's all one big fat lie.
	Because for them, it all comes down to the money.
	Hillary Clinton speaks to just about every major Wall Street firm as long as they pay her $225,000 an hour.
	I've told you how that works.
	You know, she goes in, she does, you know, a meet and greet, a grip and grab, they call it.
	Take a lot of pictures, but she probably limits the number of pictures.
	And she shakes some hands, takes some photos, gives a speech for an hour, and goes home with $225,000, $250,000.
	And she speaks to banks and insurance companies and big Wall Street firms and big legal firms.
	What is she doing?
	And then she won't release the contents of her speeches because her and her husband made over $50 million between 2013 and 2015.
	Wow.
	How much do you, all of you out there, do you make $225,000 a year?
	She's making $225,000 for a maximum hour.
	If she's flying, it's a private jet that's included as part of the deal.
	And she flies in in luxury, gives the one-hour speech, does the grip and grab, and takes 100 clicks, and she's out the door.
	Great way to make a living, isn't it?
	And then she won't tell you what she's telling the Wall Street firms, what she's telling big banks, what she's telling pharmaceutical companies, what she's telling energy companies, what she's telling insurance companies.
	She's not going to give you the information about how corrupt they are.
	They're not going to release that.
	Oh, but Donald Trump better release his tax returns.
	Well, it's under audit every year.
	I don't think he's going to release anything.
	Pretty unbelievable.
	So Obama's CIA director says the White House terrorism policy has failed, you think?
	Oh, here's another Clinton story I meant to bring up.
	Bill and Hillary tried to hide over $17 million in foreign donations, according to the Daily Caller.
	Anyway, they used an obscure New York State charity board filing to disclose the nonprofit received nearly $17.7 million in donations from foreign governments while Hillary was Secretary of State.
	Foreign governments, while Secretary of State.
	Latest filing submitted in January before the public charity division, operated by New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, a Democrat.
	Oh, that's the guy that's doing the Trump University attack against Donald Trump.
	Money given between 2010 and 2013, the exact years when Clinton was America's chief diplomat.
	A new line was added in January submission that says, all other government grants came from foreign governments.
	That figure is $17.7 million, according to the Daily Caller.
	By the way, if you want to nullify and turn Hillary Clinton's war on women attacks to their advantage, the Trump campaign needs to go through this money from these countries that practice radical Sharia and oppress women, gays, lesbians, bisexuals, transsexuals, and also oppress Christians and Jews.
	That would allow Trump to turn the tables on Hillary and say her actions are far more harmful to women and gays than his words.
	Oh, Donald Trump is incendiary.
	Beyond that, it will underscore the hypocrisy of her.
	Clinton says one thing does another.
	In this case, she pretends to be a champion of women and gays and a champion of religious freedom, but she takes money from those who oppress them.
	And the hypocrisy line of attack, I think, in turn has meant it goes right to the heart of who she is.
	She already has sky-high negatives when it comes to being honest and trustworthy.
	I think this would be a good kind of attack to reinforce and amplify those concerns.
	So, anyway, that's precisely the kind of argument that I think needs to be made and put Trump on offense.
	So, we'll see what happens.
	By the way, McClatchy is reporting that Hillary's campaign is trying to reintroduce the former Secretary of State to voters.
	Didn't they try that a year ago?
	They said she was going to be funnier.
	And what was the other thing, the description they said, funnier and approachable.
	That was it.
	Anyway, their second set of general ads, which began today in eight battleground states, focus on her decades of advocating for children.
	That's always used.
	By the way, Republicans always want to poison the air water, kill children, kill Granny, and they're racist, sexist, and anti-gay.
	Anyway, so I'm sure that she did so much for children in the course of her life.
	So this is now the 17,000th time that she's been reintroduced to the American public.
	By the way, here's something else.
	The FBI director James Comey believes that certain gun control measures would harm FBI terror investigations.
	That's pretty interesting in the Daily Caller.
	He previously warned lawmakers last year that Democratic-supported gun control measures to block individuals on terror watch lists from buying a firearm could blow domestic terror probes.
	It's an interesting way to look at it.
	From a constitutional standpoint, you know, you are entitled to an opportunity to prove your innocence.
	You're innocent until proven guilty.
	And if you're on a watch list, it does raise constitutional questions.
	I do think, speaking of Brennan, who admits they've done a terrible job with ISIS, reports today that with the Orlando massacre still on Americans' minds, the CIA director offered this assessment, our efforts have not reduced ISIS's terrorism capability and global reach.
	Let me say that again.
	Not only did they fail to create any jobs, they doubled the debt.
	We have millions more in poverty on food stamps.
	They gave Iraq, created an opening in Iraq and Syria for ISIS.
	Let's see, they blew Benghazi in Libya.
	They destabilized the Middle East.
	Now, also, they have failed on ISIS.
	Beyond its losses on the battlefield, ISIL's finances are also taking a hit.
	Coalition efforts have reduced the group's ability to generate revenue and have forced it to cut costs and to reallocate funds.
	Yet, ISIL is adapting to the coalition's efforts, and it continues to generate at least tens of millions of dollars in revenue per month, primarily from taxation in those areas that it controls, and from crude oil sales on the black and gray markets inside of Syria and Iraq.
	Unfortunately, despite all our progress against ISIL on the battlefield and in the financial realm, our efforts have not reduced the group's terrorism capability and global reach.
	The resources needed for terrorism are very modest, and the group would have to suffer even heavier losses on territory, manpower, and money for its terrorist capacity to decline significantly.
	Moreover, the group's foreign branches and global networks can help preserve its capacity for terrorism regardless of events in Iraq and Syria.
	In fact, as the pressure mounts on ISIL, we judge that it will intensify its global terror campaign to maintain its dominance of the global terrorism agenda.
	Since at least 2014, ISIL has been working to build an apparatus to direct and inspire attacks against its foreign enemies, resulting in hundreds of casualties.
	The most prominent examples are the attacks in Paris and Brussels, which we assess were directed by ISIL's leadership.
	We judge that ISIL is training and attempting to deploy operatives for further attacks.
	ISIL has a large cadre of Western fighters who could potentially serve as operatives for attacks in the West.
	And the group is probably exploring a variety of means for infiltrating operatives into the West, including in refugee flows, smuggling routes, and legitimate methods of travel.
	Furthermore, as we have seen in Orlando, San Bernardino, and elsewhere, ISIL is attempting to inspire attacks by sympathizers who have no direct links to the group.
	Last month, for example, a senior ISIL figure publicly urged the group's followers to conduct attacks.
	All right, that's the CIA Director John Brennan testifying to Congress today.
	Yeah, ISIS is probably exploring a variety of means for infiltrating operatives into the West, including in refugee flows, smuggling routes, and legitimate methods of travel.
	Oh, who's been warning forever and ever and ever and ever and ever that, in fact, ISIS will infiltrate the Syrian population that Obama and Hillary are insisting that we bring into this country?
	When we certainly have other options, you know, like a safe zone, we have plenty of options.
	We can create a military safe zone, provide tents and food and water and medicine and supplies and blankets and cots and baby formula, things that people like myself, Donald Trump, other Republicans have all been saying.
	Now, John Brennan was not the only one to warn us about this.
	In March of this year, the top U.S. military commander in Europe, Air Force General Philip Breedlove, he told the Senate committee that, yeah, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of refugees entering Europe and that it's part of the daily refugee flow.
	And in September, when asked if ISIS could infiltrate the refugees, well, Obama's former top envoy to defeat ISIS General John Allen said, yeah, we have to watch that.
	And James Comey, the FBI director, said that.
	And James Clapper, the U.S. Director of National Intelligence, said that.
	And State Department spokesman John Kirby admitted it's possible.
	And let's see.
	We also have Michael Steinbeck, the assistant FBI director.
	We have the House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Mike McCall saying the same thing.
	Everybody's saying the exact same thing again and again and again.
	All right, here to help go through all of this with us.
	We have Patrick Poole.
	He is the National Security and Terrorism Correspondent for PJ Media.
	Daniel Horowitz, senior editor of Conservative Review, and both are investigative journalists that have been following this story very, very closely.
	Welcome all of you to the program.
	Patrick, let me start with you.
	If every one of our top national security officials, intelligence officials, are warning the president that the refugee population will be infiltrated, that means to me, I interpret that as the president and Hillary Clinton, who both support this policy, are willing to gamble with the lives of Americans, that it's likely Americans will die as a result of their insistence.
	Why would they not listen to the best and brightest in our intelligence community?
	Sean, you're absolutely right.
	It's maddening.
	And in fact, last time that I was on your program, we discussed more than two dozen incidents of Syrian refugees or terrorists who had traveled as refugees here in the past couple years that have conducted terrorist attacks in Europe and elsewhere.
	And it's only a matter of time, Sean, before we see something like that here.
	As Judicial Watch reported, the refugee they caught down on the border here within just the past couple days with a map of gas pipeline infrastructure.
	You know, who only knows about that?
	And it's only because of Judicial Watch that we know anything about that incident.
	Unbelievable.
	Now, let me get Daniel first your original thoughts on this.
	Do you think this is gambling with the lives of Americans?
	Maybe Barack Obama, when he rents his multi-million dollar, $20,000 a month mansion, maybe the refugees can move in next to him, considering he's so hell-bent on doing it.
	You know, Sean, there's been a very important development since we spoke last.
	Over the last couple weeks, in Amman, Jordan, the Obama State Department has set up what they call in their own words a resettlement surge center.
	So we were promised an 18 to 24 month period of vetting that we're going to know everything about these people.
	They've condensed it by their own admission to just three months, and it's probably less than that.
	They got that operational in April.
	So since then, they have 12,000 in the pipeline, and they're churning out.
	I check the database every day.
	It's anywhere from 100 to 300 a day.
	At that clip, Obama could bring in about 20,000 more for the remainder of his presidency.
	I mean, if even a small percentage are problematic, that's really bad.
	But the point is, you're seeing their end game here is a surge, is bringing them in at all costs.
	So even in their, measured against their own criteria, this is not a judicious exercise.
	This is so he could go to the UN in September and tell the global initiative that he's meeting with that we've done our part and brag about the number he has brought in.
	So he is working to achieve an ultimate number at all costs, irrespective of our security needs.
	Let's talk about Patrick.
	Let me ask you about Brennan himself.
	Now, we had a guy, Philip Payney, on this week, who was really one of the founders of the Homeland Security Department, an amazing human being, did incredible work.
	He reported as a whistleblower to us, and he wrote a book, and he told the story to my audience how he was told in 2009, after Obama became president, he was ordered by his senior people to literally scrub the names of Muslims in a database that had suspected terror ties.
	Why would anybody ever do that?
	Because that prevents us from connecting the dots.
	For example, this guy in Orlando, well, the FBI knew about him.
	Department of Homeland Security knew about him.
	Why?
	Because he cheered after 9-11, as reported by students in the class.
	And number two, he claimed that he wanted to be a martyr.
	He claimed to be a part of al-Qaeda, claimed to be a part of Hezbollah.
	Why would we ever scrub the names of suspects?
	Sean, it's a mystery, and it's something that Congress needs to get to the bottom to.
	John Brennan's testimony to Congress today was simply stunning, particularly since it directly contradicted the president.
	You know, Obama has come out and publicly said that ISIS is not an existential threat.
	Brennan came out and said today, I've never seen so many threats to the U.S. Obama has said that ISIS ranks and morale are shrinking.
	Well, Brennan comes out today and says the U.S. hasn't reduced ISIS capability and reach.
	And as you referenced, John Brennan was the very architect of the counterterrorism training purge.
	In fact, I'm sitting here looking at his November 3rd, 2011 letter from the White House when he was Obama's counterterrorism czar to a group of Muslim organizations who demanded a purge.
	And he's saying, yes, we're going to purge all this counterterrorism training.
	And we're shocked and surprised when incidents like Fort Hood, Boston, and now Orlando, every single case where the FBI knew in advance who these individuals were and their intentions and motives and did nothing.
	And here we have, yet again, more dead Americans and very little introspection on the part of the DOJ and the FBI about why this keeps happening.
	What's your answer to that, Daniel?
	You know, it's even worse than disregarding the terror threat.
	We are allowing the terrorist sympathizers and supporters, the foxes, to guard the hen house.
	I mean, just take the DHS, you know, the Homeland Security Advisory Council.
	There are several members that are either affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood.
	You have Salam Al-Mariadi.
	He's the president of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, Muslim Brotherhood Front Group.
	And this guy said Jews are behind 9-11.
	As Phil Haney writes in his book, you have examples where Muslim Brotherhood officials that were implicated in the Holy Land Foundation trial were given tours of O'Hare airport security.
	So they are actually crafting very sensitive counterterrorism homeland security strategies at DHS, at FBI.
	They're given top security clearances.
	And instead of Republicans passing legislation clamping down on that, designating the Muslim Brotherhood a terror group, they actually just today passed a bill validating the very agenda Haney was talking about, CVE, countering violent extremism, which sounds Orwellian, but it basically empowers these radical Islamist groups to not only expunge any data on radical Islamic terrorism and connecting the dots between foreign terrorists and domestic terrorists,
	it goes a step further and it actually ratifies their agenda, the left-wing agenda, to go after gun owners, to go after quote-unquote right-wing terrorists, people like Sean Hannity, as DHS Secretary Jay Johnson was talking about this week.
	So, I mean, this is a very insidious agenda, but we don't have a Republican Party standing up to it.
	Well, we don't have a Republican Party that has a backbone.
	They're weak and they're timid, as I have stated repeatedly.
	Let me go to the issue of Hillary Clinton, Clinton Foundation, Clinton Library, the Saudis up to $25 million to the Clinton Foundation.
	Let's see, they gave another $10 million, I think, to the Clinton Library.
	But women can't drive.
	Women need permission to go to work or to travel.
	Marital rape is not recognized.
	If you're gay or lesbian, you can be punished by death in Saudi Arabia.
	No churches, no temples, no religious freedom.
	So she takes money from the Saudis, Kuwaitis, the UAE, Brunei, Qatar, Oman, Algeria.
	And a lot of these countries also donate to the Clinton Library.
	Now, within different margins, they discriminate, almost all of them, against women.
	They treat women horribly.
	They treat gays and lesbians horribly.
	Each country has some penalty.
	Many have the death penalty for gays and lesbians.
	You can't build the temple and you can't build the Christian church.
	She takes the money, but she's the champion of gay rights, lesbian rights, bisexual rights, women's rights, and religious freedom.
	How does she get away with that, Patrick?
	Well, the media allows her to get away with it.
	And Sean is the problem with Hillary Clinton and these extremist regimes and even terror-linked suspects goes all the way back to her husband's administration.
	In 1996, she asked Abdurrahman Alamoudi, who's currently serving a 17-year prison, federal prison sentence for an al-Qaeda assassination plot.
	Treasury Department later came out and said that he was the top al-Qaeda fundraiser in North America.
	Hillary Clinton not only asked him to set up the White House, the first White House Ramadan Ishtar dinner, she asked Bill to appoint him as Goodwill Ambassador for the State Department during her Senate campaign in 2000.
	There were a number of individuals who were openly praising Hamas, who gave heavily to her Senate campaign.
	So this problem goes back literally decades for Hillary Clinton, and the media just kind of, well, you know, see something, say nothing.
	A lot of that going around.
	Yeah, Daniel, last word here.
	You know, it's interesting.
	We always say money talks and everything else walks.
	You actually see that agenda while Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State.
	Notice that throughout all the incoherence of this administration's foreign policy, and it is pretty incoherent, the one binding theme is we always seem to be doing the Muslim Brotherhood's agenda, whether it's the rebels in Syria, whether it's opposing Sisi in Egypt, and now they're actually supporting Muslim Brotherhood-backed governments against what could potentially be an allied government in Libya.
	And I know Patrick has a lot to say about that.
	And then again, you're right, domestically.
	Look at the contradiction between the liberals that, like Hillary Clinton, they want to force American religious institutions to service the homosexual agenda with their own private property, yet somehow they have no problem bringing in endless scores of Islamists that want to throw them off roofs.
	So, I mean, you go try to find some consistency.
	You know, it's pretty amazing.
	I keep saying, you know, who's been speaking out against Sharia?
	Conservatives.
	Conservatives are standing up for women's rights, for religious freedom, for the rights of gays and lesbians to be left alone.
	Maybe some conservatives don't support gay marriage or changing the definition, but conservatives are speaking out against Sharia and the murder of gays and lesbians.
	It's amazing, isn't it?
	It's unbelievable.
	I'm telling you, Sean, we live in a backwards world, but unfortunately, Democrats get away with it as long as we don't have an opposition party providing a bold contrast.
	All right, two people I really admire, great writers, Patrick Poole with PJ Media and Daniel Horowitz, Senior Editor at Conservative Review.
	Thank you both for being with us.
	Let's get to our phones, as I have been promising.
	Beth is in Los Angeles on the Sean Hannity Show.
	Hey, Beth, how are you?
	Glad you called.
	Hey, Sean, how are you doing?
	It's an honor to speak with you.
	I've been following you and listening to you for over 10 years.
	Wow, thank you so much.
	I appreciate what you're doing.
	The honor is all mine.
	Thank you very much.
	Well, I'm a gay woman, and I live in Hollywood.
	I've been working in the industry for over 25 years.
	And I've got to tell you that this group of the gay elite that is currently in power is so despicable and repugnant that it just makes me sick.
	I am so disgusted by their cowardice and their lack of morals that it's just unbelievable that they can still follow Hillary.
	And despite what she has done and the crimes she's committed, it's unbelievable.
	I'm shocked.
	You know, I, well, I'm glad you called.
	You know, here's something that's frustrating to me, Beth, as a conservative.
	You know, as I became mature in life and, you know, look at life, you know, experience certainly makes you wiser and smarter and so on and so forth.
	I think, and tell me if I'm wrong, I think most people don't really care what relationship you're in.
	You know what?
	Do you really want to know what I do in my bedroom?
	doubt it you know i mean it's yeah no you know i mean That's incorrect.
	So here I've been as a conservative, and you said you've listened for 10 years.
	How many times have you heard me say it's nobody's business what people do privately, who they love, who they decide to love, who they decide to be with?
	You know what?
	You know, everybody that I know that, you know, quotes the Bible on issues involving being gay or lesbian, I'm like, I don't know anybody hardly that didn't live or have sex before they got married.
	All right, so isn't that supposed to be, quote, the sin too?
	But I think most people are libertarian.
	Do you agree with that?
	Sean, I don't know.
	I think these Hollywood elite are just extreme Democrats that they just worship at the altar of Hillary and Obama.
	But I do agree.
	You've always been non-judgmental when it comes to gays, and I appreciate that so much.
	And I think you've done more for gays than gays have done for themselves, certainly in the last year.
	All right, but I get excoriated.
	I get beaten up because, oh, I don't want to change the definition of marriage.
	Now, I'm somebody who's saying, I don't care.
	It's none of my business.
	Go live your life.
	And people should respect other people's choices in their private life.
	It's none of their damn business.
	Now, and then here I've been saying for years, what's happening in all these Muslim countries?
	How many times have you heard me talking about gays and lesbians being stoned to death, put to death, executed, thrown off the tops of buildings under Sharia law?
	Now, what I don't understand is why isn't there more outrage in the gay and lesbian community?
	Why aren't more women outraged at the treatment of women under Sharia?
	Why does Hillary get the mantle of being pro-gay rights and a champion of gay rights and a champion of women when she takes money from all of these countries and has they have basically and ostensibly bought her silence?
	It frustrates me.
	Do you understand why?
	No, I really don't.
	I mean, look at Ellen DeGeneres.
	She's the top lesbian out there, and she's one of Hillary's best friends.
	Yeah, but do you understand why I'm mad that people, I'm the one saying this has got to stop.
	I'm not taking money from these people.
	Yes, I agree.
	You must be very frustrated.
	And frankly, as far as marriage goes, I've been with the same person for about 30 years, and we're married.
	But, you know, frankly, and we have two teenage girls.
	But frankly, I'm not concerned about words or how marriage is described.
	I'm more concerned about my daughter's futures and if they're going to have a safe country to live in.
	That's what I'm worried about.
	I got two kids, too.
	I'm scared to death what world we're going to hand off to them, right?
	It's extremely frightening.
	And I think these people, they're just ignorant.
	And at best, it's willful ignorance.
	And at worst, it's an evil pathology.
	Yeah, it is.
	By the way, it is evil.
	And it's so backwards.
	It's so antiquated.
	It's so out of touch with anything that represents any sense of human decency.
	It's beyond frustrating to me that we have a president and a presidential candidate that can't even acknowledge radical Islam.
	They take money from these countries.
	They get paid off.
	And then they claim that they're the champion for the very people that are being persecuted by the countries that are paying them.
	Good grief.
	It's sickening.
	And Sean, where are the gay celebrities who, where are they?
	I don't see anyone in Orlando that I've heard of that went down there to maybe offer some comfort or presence for the gay community.
	See, where are they?
	They're quiet.
	They're just like sheep.
	They're lemmings.
	Yeah, you're right.
	They just follow each other.
	They've got this group pack mentality, and no one wants to veer out of it.
	And it's just unbelievable that they could follow Hillary and Obama before.
	And it's just despicable.
	And I just want you to know that there are people who I haven't met many.
	I mean, frankly, I go to parties and now I kind of avoid parties because I it's to the point where you can't even have a conversation because the politics comes up.
	And I've been looked at like I'm crazy for saying that I love Trump.
	And I've been with Trump from day one.
	Good for you.
	Well, listen, I get, yeah.
	You look, you're always welcome on this program.
	And I thank you for being with us.
	I wish you all the best and your kids the best.
	Thanks for being with us.
	800-941-Sean, Ted is in Florida.
	Ted, how are you?
	Glad you called.
	Where in Florida are you?
	I'm good, Sean.
	How are you?
	I'm good.
	Where are you from?
	I'm from Crestview, Florida.
	Okay, welcome to the program.
	What can I do for you?
	I was calling in reference to conversation you guys have had in the last couple days about the Orlando shooting and specifically about the comments made by Donald Trump.
	And I believe your comments backing him up as if the president is complicit in some type of terrorism plot in the United States.
	Sean, I had to say that as an independent, I'm really discouraged by the comments that are being made about every time there's a mass shooting, there's always deflection away from the original cause.
	And I think that's a good question.
	Well, let me ask you a question.
	So you're going to blame the gun.
	Okay, let's say you and I are in a nightclub together, okay?
	And let's say somebody starts shooting.
	And I've been armed my entire adult life.
	I've had a license to carry in New York, California, Alabama, Georgia.
	Okay, so my question to you is, do you want me next to you to help defend innocent people there or not?
	To be honest, I don't, Sean, and I'll tell you why.
	No, let me tell you what.
	Well, then that means everybody in there is a sitting duck.
	Can I explain why?
	Sure.
	Everybody that carries a gun isn't able to shoot a gun.
	If you take a gun, number one, a gun in a nightclub is not even legal.
	So why are you going to mix alcohol and guns into a bar night?
	I'm a trained marksman.
	I don't think anybody should drink.
	Just like I think there should be a legal limit for drinking and driving, a legal limit if you carry a firearm.
	But that's not the point.
	If you don't have somebody in there armed, you are all sitting ducks.
	That's the way it is.
	If everybody's armed, who's shooting who, Sean?
	Okay.
	The whole thing is who's shooting who?
	Listen, if I'm in a crowded bar and somebody's shooting.
	Somebody's unloading.
	I don't know who's the bad guy and who's the good guy.
	The guy that's firing at all the innocent people will be the bad guy and the ones that and the ones because he's the one that starts the shooting.
	How stupid can you be?
	Because I didn't see the who shot the gun.
	Okay, then you don't know what to do.
	Then if you don't know who it is, then you don't pull out your weapon until you do know.
	Well, so then you're still a sitting duck.
	All right, goodbye.
	I don't know who it is.
	Listen, good luck to you.
	You do it your way.
	I'll do it mine.
	But I would prefer to have the ability to protect innocent lives.
	This guy dropped clips, one after another, and kept firing and firing.
	He drops a clip.
	That's a perfect opportunity to take him out.
	Save lives.
	800-941-Sean.
	By the way, I doubt that guy's an independent, too.
	I didn't get into it, but I would have pressed him.
	I'm sure he's not.
	Let's get to our phone.
	Sandy, California.
	Hi, Sandy.
	How are you?
	Glad you called.
	Hi, Sean.
	Regarding the shooting and everything else, under Hillary and Obama, our government's crooked.
	They believe too much in political correctness and they're ineffective.
	In truth, the people to blame are Omar pulled the trigger, the wife didn't say anything.
	He didn't report him.
	And the FBI dropped the ball.
	And then, like evil magicians, what does Obama and Hillary do?
	They blame people like me and you, gun owners, they blame the National Rifle Association.
	And they continuously participate in bad behavior, fast and furious, Benghazi, IRS, and they keep getting away with it because the bad thing is our government is actually committing crimes and then they're the ones that are supposed to be in charge of going after criminals.
	Yeah, they're the ones that gave the guns to, let's see, they gave the guns to the kidnappers, the drug cartels, and the maniacs and the gangs.
	Exactly.
	And then Brian Terry and others died.
	They're the people that released terrorists back into the battlefield by unloading the Gitmo detainees.
	They're the ones that give the Iranians $150 billion.
	And they're the ones that arm Mohamed Morsi, the former head of the Muslim Brotherhood.
	I don't want to hear lectures about, oh, the need to take away my weapons when they have armed the most evil people on the planet for crying out loud.
	The bad thing, too, Sean, is out of all this chaos, they're trying to create an order.
	And the order is against Americans.
	And I just really wish people like that guy that was just talking to you, Democrats, I wish our Republicans would get a little stronger, would understand that we've got to put Americans first, and we've got to identify who the criminals are.
	And they aren't the National Rifle Association.
	Well said.
	Well said.
	It's not.
	Good point.
	Yeah, our government gave weapons, fast and furious.
	Let's see.
	They gave weapons to drug cartels, to criminal enterprises, to drug dealers, to known kidnappers.
	And what a shock they used that.
	Brian Terry is dead with a gun provided by our government.
	You know?
	Eric Holder, 40% of Gitmo detainees that we know are back in the battlefield creating more acts of terror, trying to kill more Americans, more Westerners.
	Anybody that doesn't buy into their twisted view of the world.
	Mohamed Morsi referred to the Israelis as descendants of apes and pigs.
	He was the head of a terrorist organization.
	After the Arab Spring, he's the new Egyptian president.
	That's all right.
	We'll give him F-16s.
	We'll give him billions of dollars.
	We'll give him tanks.
	And then we give the Iranians, the number one state sponsor of terror, $150 billion so they can build up their weapons program.
	We give them permission to build their conventional weapons program.
	We give them permission to partner with Vladimir Putin to build missile defense so that we or the Israelis can't take out their nuclear sites.
	Or then we're going to allow Syrian refugees into the country.
	Everything this man does is just wrong.
	Everything he does is backwards.
	Everything Hillary supports is backwards.
	She's a part of all of this.
	Kevin, Cogo, News Radio 600 in San Diego, what's going on?
	How are you?
	Good.
	How are you doing, Sean?
	I'm good.
	What's happening?
	I appreciate you having me on the show.
	I wanted to get your informed analysis on something.
	By the way, there was a threat yesterday on Craigslist, quote, that San Diego is next.
	I hope to God it's not true.
	As do I, Sean.
	So on Monday's program regarding the horrifically tragic mass shooting at Pulse, you mentioned that the shooter had to stop to reload, which provided him an opportunity, provided an opportunity for an armed, law-abiding citizen to take him out.
	And, you know, I agree that that citizen could and should be able to do so far.
	But my question to you is that given that a reload provides that opportunity, would a lower magazine capacity have inhibited Omar Machine's effectiveness in the shooting?
	I actually think, I'm not sure of Florida law.
	I know in New York, which I think is really stupid, I think the limit is 10.
	Remember, they tried to drop it to 7.
	I remember I had to take three bullets out of my magazine, and I complied with the law, as I always do.
	And then I went back to 10 because most clips are made for 10.
	I have 10 hollow points of my Glock 40 right now, right on my hip.
	But, you know, the issue to me is not, you know, it's not the gun.
	It's not the magazine.
	The issue is law enforcement.
	The issue is our government's inviting in Syrian refugees, and we're told ISIS will infiltrate by our own intelligence community.
	The issue is letting Gitmo, known terrorists, go back to the battlefield.
	The issue is providing money to state sponsors of terror like Iran.
	The issue is, you know, fast and furious, money to the gangsters, money to the drug dealers, money to the cartels, guns to the cartels, guns to the kidnappers.
	That's the issue.
	It's not law-abiding Americans.
	We're not reading about law-abiding Americans.
	The DHS knew who this idiot was, a guy that cheered 9-11, claimed to be associated with Al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, a guy that literally said he wanted to be a martyr to the FBI.
	I mean, don't talk to me about guns when you screwed up so badly.
	I don't want to hear it.
	It's really stupid.
	It's ignorant to me.
	And then when you give weapons to cartels, really, we should get more weapons to defend ourselves because you're so stupid.
	The Republicans, honestly, folks, our leaders, our leaders have to get tougher.
	This is too tough to do it alone.
	But you know what?
	I think I'm going to be forced to.
	I think I'm going to be forced to.
	Our leaders have to get a lot tougher.
	And be quiet.
	Just please be quiet.
	Don't talk.
	Please be quiet.
	Just be quiet to the leaders because they have to get tougher.
	They have to get sharper.
	They have to get smarter.
	We have to have our Republicans either stick together or let me just do it by myself.
	I'll do very well.
	I'm going to do very well.
	Okay?
	I'm going to do very well.
	A lot of people thought I should do that anyway.
	But I'll just do it very nicely by myself.
	I think you're going to have a very good result.
	I think we'll be very happy.
	This morning, Mr. Speaker, you rolled out your plan to rein in executive power.
	Mr. Trump yesterday said this, addressing congressional leaders like yourself.
	Be quiet.
	Just please be quiet.
	Don't talk.
	What is your reaction to that?
	And is this, how do you have any confidence that this is a guy who's going to have respect for separation of power?
	You know, you can't make this up sometimes.
	I'll just say we represent a separate but equal branch of government.
	We just spent the morning talking about how valuable the separation of powers is and how we're trying to restore the entire principle of self-government, of government by consent.
	We will lose our freedoms in this country, including all of the Bill of Rights, if we don't robustly defend the separation of powers.
	And we're going to fight for those rights on behalf of our citizens so that we remain a self-governing people.
	All right, news roundup and information overload hour here on the Sean Hannity show.
	All right, the debate, the ongoing debate continues.
	You know, one of the things that has come out after the Orlando terrorist attack is a lot of things that I find very troubling.
	You know, the president, Hillary Clinton, well, they're the ones that began the process of giving $150 billion to the number one state sponsor of terror, and that, of course, would be Iran and allowing them to spin their centrifuges and allowing them to build missile defense with Russia and allowing them to build up their conventional forces.
	You know, these are the same people, Hillary and Bill and then Hillary and Obama that gave Mohamed Morsi, the former head of the Muslim Brotherhood, who once referred to the Israelis as descendants of apes and pigs.
	Well, they gave him tanks, F-16s, and a billion taxpayer dollars.
	These are the same people that released known terrorists back into the battlefield by releasing Gitmo detainees, which I think was pretty stupid.
	They're the same people that ignore their own CIA director, their own FBI director, assistant FBI director, their former special envoy to defeat ISIS, the House Homeland Security Chairman, Mike McCall, who says Syrian refugees, that population will be infiltrated by terrorists.
	We have a Department of Homeland Security that forbids the use of the term jihad and sharia because it's too disrespectful.
	94 of our fellow Americans have been killed by radical Islamists since 9-11.
	We've got a Department of Homeland Security that admits that illegal immigrants who overstay their visas are almost never caught.
	We have an immigration problem where the U.S. has resettled nearly three-quarters of a million migrants from countries that actually execute gay people.
	But Jay Johnson says gun control is now an issue of Homeland Security.
	And the Homeland Security Secretary said right-wingers pose the same threat as Islamic extremists.
	I guess that would be me and Michael Steele, certainly not Rick Unger.
	Anyway, Rick Unger, Michael Steele, join us, host of SiriusXM, Steele and Unger program.
	You know, the people that are so upset over the Second Amendment give $150 billion to Iran.
	They give all this weaponry to Mohammed Morsi, formerly of the Muslim Brotherhood.
	They release Ghidmo detainees so they can go back in the battlefield and kill again.
	And they want Syrian refugees here, even though their own intelligence officials say it's dumb.
	Michael Steele.
	Yeah, I mean, I think that's one of the problems that I have with the way a lot of times, particularly something tragic happens, immediately runs to the gun debate argument.
	And I think in so many respects, Sean, we need to separate that out because there are ways in which we can address the gun debate issue without conflating it in other things.
	What you're describing is more related to how we're engaging in very troubled areas around the globe and how that then spills over into other things in terms of our efforts on the grounds of geoterrorism, our ability to profile, if you will, potential threats.
	All of that has been taken off the table, and yet the debate tends to focus after a tragedy on the U.S. gun policy.
	You know, Rick, I would have maybe a little bit more sympathy for the consistency of the argument that guns are the problem if the president didn't release Gitmo detainees, if the president didn't give Iran all this money and allow them to partner with missile defense with Russia, or give the guy that referred to Israelis and Jews as descendants of apes and pigs F-16's tanks and a billion of our dollars.
	I might have a little more sympathy about his argument and might at least think there's some consistency there.
	Yeah, I don't know if you can conflate the two, and I think you've got to be a little bit careful.
	We didn't give those tanks.
	Yes, Morsi, and he did say all those things, was running the country, but we had interest in helping Egypt, who tends to be on our side.
	He was the president.
	He was.
	He was.
	And by the way, he was not a friend when he was president.
	That was right after the Arab Spring.
	And remember what happened to Lara Logan?
	Remember what happened in Tenier Square?
	I'm not defending Morsi.
	Never did, never will.
	But I will defend the relationship we have with Egypt.
	And I think you have to look at some of the subtleties there.
	Now, on the gun thing, though.
	But wait a minute, but Al-Sisi, the new president, is fantastic.
	Yeah, he's doing a much better job for us.
	But this president ignores him.
	No, he doesn't.
	That's not true.
	Yeah, that's kind of true.
	Yeah, he has more courage to speak out against radical Islam than our Secretary.
	I'm trying to say he's ignoring our ally, Israel.
	Well, that too.
	But he actually does.
	Well, that's another accurate statement.
	Thank you for helping my case.
	It's my pleasure.
	But he doesn't ignore Al-Sisi.
	But on the gun thing, which I think you want to focus on, look, I mean, I have not been in agreement all the time with the way Obama's approach is.
	I think it overstates us to say anybody from Obama to Hillary wants to revoke the Second Amendment.
	It's simply not true.
	But there are reasonable questions to put on the table.
	And I think apparently some Republicans last night decided that there are some reasonable things to take a look at.
	I don't want to revoke anybody's gun.
	I think you have a right in this country to have one.
	Let me ask a question.
	I can't take it away.
	All right, let's say, God forbid, we're at San Bernardino.
	Right.
	And what happened there, we're in the room.
	Let's say we're at the nightclub Pulse in Orlando.
	Okay.
	You know, I carry a weapon.
	I've carried one my whole life.
	All right.
	Now, do you want me next to you?
	Would you prefer knowing me, knowing how well trained I'm a marksman in the use of a pistol, knowing I've been trained since I'm 11 years old, I've carried every year of my life since.
	Since 11?
	Well, no, when I became an adult.
	Would you want me in the room with you if somebody starts shooting?
	Yes.
	But here's the on that one night, you bet I would.
	But here's the problem.
	On that one night.
	What do you mean on that one night?
	Because here's what you can't ignore: guns in a bar where people are drinking, what could possibly go wrong.
	So, yes, on that drink.
	I don't drink when I have my weapon.
	That's you.
	You're going to say that everybody who would go into a bar with a weapon wouldn't drink?
	I think that's a good point.
	I'm assuming that people don't drink and drive.
	Yeah, they do.
	And you're right.
	On that one horrible night, yes, I'd like to be standing next to you with your gun.
	But you know what?
	On the night before and the night after and every other night in that place, I don't want drunks in a bar that I'm at.
	I don't drink and carry my guns.
	That's huge, Charlie.
	No, but that's the way most people go to a party.
	The other thing is, I have in my house more Liberty safes than you can shake a stick at, including a Liberty safe that's a fingerprint next to my bed.
	I wish they were all like that.
	I actually agree, but you know something?
	You know, it's very frustrating to me, Michael, is that if there were a couple of people like me or Bo Deedle, or I don't know if you carry a gun.
	No, I don't.
	You know, but the point is, if we were there, we could stop a guy like this.
	Well, you know, I think that there's a lot of truth to that, but this is why I have a problem with some of that logic.
	First off, it's never been tested.
	So I don't know if the scenario unfolds the way a lot of people are.
	Whoa, slow down.
	There was an instance where there was a professor at a university.
	I forget the exact location.
	I'll look it up later and tell you.
	A number of years ago where a professor parked his car off campus, a shooting started to occur.
	He went, found his car, got his gun, came back, and saved lives.
	Big distinction between that.
	And as a matter of fact, John Lott wrote a whole book on this: More Guns, Less Crime.
	I mean, he's proven it again and again.
	It's not the same as having that gun in a darkened room at a nightclub with pounding music, people dancing and talking, and then the shouting, screaming, and running start.
	And so then that's my only concern about.
	Well, let's say if it's a retired military guy or a retired policeman, somebody trained like I am in the use of a firearm, you know what to do.
	You're trained for that.
	That's true.
	But Sean, here's the hard, cold truth.
	Not everyone, and I'd say if you lined up 10 people, you'd be lucky if five of them, if five of them were trained the way you are and the way some of the people are you're talking about.
	Actually, you're suggesting something, Tom.
	I think one of the arguments that the NRA, which I'm a very strong supporter of, can get in front of some of this gun debate argument with is look, but you know what we're missing?
	Sure, we have the kind of people who own firearms that respect firearms.
	But let's be fair to the NRA here.
	The NRA is the number one teacher of gun safety in the country.
	It is paramount to their mission.
	But not everyone goes through the NRA program.
	I understood, but you actually came up with something that's worth pursuing.
	I think we should pursue it.
	The people that you talked about, somebody like yourself, somebody who's been military, I'm okay with them going in there with that weapon because they know what to do.
	But do you want to be in that bar when some drunk Yahoo who just picked up a gun and wouldn't know what to do with it in a million years starts shooting in the dark?
	There actually are laws on the books, as I understand it, that people can't be intoxicated with a weapon legally intoxicated.
	And everybody follows those laws in a bar.
	Well, listen, everybody doesn't follow the laws about driving a car either.
	We don't take their licenses away.
	You'd be doing a service if you pushed for people to have a special permit to meet that criteria.
	People have called this program many times.
	Hannity, I know you're a big gun guy.
	I'm thinking of getting a gun.
	What do you think I should get?
	And you know what my answer is?
	Whatever one you choose to get trained in the use of.
	Yeah.
	And you know what?
	I urge, you know, that's how I learned, and I think it works.
	I do think there's an irrational fear.
	I would urge you to read More Guns, Less Crime, the latest edition by John Lott, because he goes through instance after instance after instance where there are guns, there's less crime.
	Look at what happened in France.
	They have some of the strongest gun laws in the world.
	That doesn't stop people that have in their heart a desire to kill innocent people.
	But they don't have the same annual gun deaths that we have.
	They'll use a knife.
	They'll use a baseball bat.
	They'll build a bomb.
	You don't have the annual deaths.
	So, yes, when those horrible things happen, your point works.
	It does.
	But you know what?
	Most days, thank God, those horrible things don't happen.
	And worse things would happen the more access there are to guns in the wrong places.
	But the problem is, you know, how do you ascertain who gets a driver's license?
	You've got to take a test.
	You got to take a test.
	All right.
	So, understood.
	I would just say there are certain things.
	Anybody that wants to responsibly own a gun, you don't hear about responsible gun owners very rarely being involved in shootings.
	It's always criminals, always terrorists.
	You know, for example, I actually blame the Department of Homeland Security here.
	They're talking about right-wingers and they're talking about conservatives and they're talking about not saying Sharia and they want to placate, I guess, the radical Islamic community.
	But when you really think about it, they're the ones that had this guy in their database.
	He was on their watch list.
	He's a guy that cheered when 9-11 happened.
	He's a guy that claimed he was connected to Hezbollah and connected to Al-Qaeda and even said he wanted to be a martyr to FBI officials and they didn't keep him on the list.
	If they would have kept him on the list, he never would have gotten a gun.
	You know, it's sad.
	We had this guy.
	This was preventable based on the laws that we now have.
	And that's happened again and again.
	How do you feel about the election, Mr. Steele?
	I have to be honest with you, Sean.
	I'm very frustrated.
	I'm frustrated on two fronts.
	I'm frustrated with my party that still can't seem to get its head wrapped around our nominee.
	And I'm frustrated with our nominee who apparently can't get his head wrapped around our party.
	And I'm just looking for a moment where everybody decides to pull this cart in the same direction.
	I share your frustration, especially Republicans like Paul Ryan.
	By the way, did you hear Paul Ryan out screaming about what happened in Orlando?
	I've not, but he really had no problem going on TV again and again and again attacking the nominee that apparently he doesn't want for his party.
	That's frustrating.
	I don't think Paul Ryan's your problem exactly.
	Well, I think Hillary's your problem.
	You can keep her.
	Well, you didn't ask me how I feel about the election.
	I feel pretty good at this moment.
	It's going to take this moment.
	Did you see?
	Did you see Julian Assange's comments that he has the emails and that she's indictable?
	I heard it, but I never really believed Julian Assange about much of anything.
	But there may be wrong.
	When has Julian been wrong?
	When he's released stuff, he's been, you know, you read what he's released, but he's made a lot of claims that didn't turn out to be true.
	I don't remember.
	I don't remember that.
	Yeah, he said he had a lot of stuff.
	That release never quite happened.
	If he's got them, why doesn't he share them?
	I don't remember him being wrong.
	Why doesn't he share them?
	Do you remember him being wrong, Michael?
	I don't remember him being wrong.
	I mean, he typically shares stuff, but that's what I just said.
	We'll wait to see when he drops it.
	I suspect if he's made the claim, he intends to drop it.
	So we'll see if he drops it at that time.
	Rick, before we go, I want you to do something for me.
	Repeat after me, okay?
	Oh, this can't be good.
	Radical.
	Radical?
	Islamic.
	Islamic?
	Terrorism.
	Terrorism.
	I have no problem saying that whatsoever.
	You help your president and your candidate say that.
	He addressed it.
	I was a little surprised.
	He finally got around to addressing it, but he addressed it.
	Like a petulant child.
	That's the crime he addressed.
	He was angry.
	Trump had it coming.
	But then he mocked it.
	He mocked it.
	And again, you know, I believe, Sean, in the truth that if you define something or label it for it, then we all understand what we're talking about.
	We understand what the fight is about.
	Ah, come on, their man-cause disasters.
	This is workplace violence.
	Man-cause disasters.
	Overseas contingencies.
	Actually, you know what nobody picked up on?
	He actually included Ford Hood in his example of extremists.
	He didn't say workplace violence.
	Well, shocking.
	Now I'm curious if he ever recognized that about six months ago.
	Did he?
	Yeah, I caught it.
	All right.
	Thank you all.
	You're the best, both of you.
	It's a pleasure, buddy.
	Sorry, Sex and CODIS.
	Yes, sir.
	Don't miss it.
	Let's get to our busy telephone.
	Sophia is in Tennessee.
	Sophia, hi, how are you?
	Glad you called.
	What's on your mind today?
	Hi, Sean.
	How are you?
	Thanks.
	Thank you for taking my call.
	I am good.
	I'm a Christian from the Middle East, and I was persecuted.
	I have scars in my body.
	I was sexually molested countless times.
	Sophia, I want you to slow down.
	It's very hard to hear you.
	You came from where?
	The Middle East.
	Where in the Middle East?
	Where in the Middle East, Sophie?
	I would not prefer to specify that.
	Okay, so you grew up in the Middle East.
	That's where you were born and raised?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And you grew up as a Christian in a Muslim country.
	Yes.
	And how were you treated?
	Go slow now.
	I want people to hear you.
	I say, in short, I lived hell on earth.
	I was tortured.
	I have scars in my body.
	I was sexually molested countless times and escaped rape.
	And this is shortly talking about what I went through.
	Did you live in a country where women were told what they can wear or not wear?
	Yes.
	Did you grow up in a country that told women they couldn't drive?
	Not exactly.
	Not exactly.
	But there's a lot of things way worse than driving.
	Women are dragged from their hair on stair steps.
	Women are dragged from their hair in the streets.
	Women are stabbed in the streets.
	There is way, way, way more worse things than just not to drive, not to be allowed to drive.
	Wow.
	So you saw women.
	Literally, you saw women dragged by their hair in the streets.
	Did you see them beaten?
	Yes.
	And there would never be any consequences for the men?
	No consequences, even if you can kill somebody in a broad daylight and you don't know consequences whatsoever.
	Did you ever see people killed?
	Since age six, I was seeing blood flowing and gushing off people.
	Was it mostly women by men?
	No, everybody.
	So there's blood everywhere and everything.
	How did you get out of this country?
	Because you're in Tennessee.
	With the help of an American citizen.
	Wow.
	And what is it that you want people to know about Sharia law and Islam that maybe they don't know?
	Well, I want to tell people something very simple.
	I want them to understand how they look at us versus we look at them.
	They look at us, Islam look at us as kafir, as infidel.
	We should be eliminated and we should be subjugated and submitted and be treated less than you call it here second class citizen, but actually we are treated like slaves back in our countries.
	It's very important to understand the way they look at America.
	It's not a host country, but it's a land should be conquered for Allah and Islamized.
	Wow.
	And the way they look at our women and our children, because as I said, I've been sexually molested countless times, I escaped rape, and rape is commendable in Islam and rewardable in Islam.
	What is Taqiyyah?
	Can you explain that to people?
	Taqiyyah is simply deceiving the non-Muslim by all means possible.
	And one more important key of Taqiyyah is not to say the Islamic teaching to the non-Muslim.
	That's why there is a verse in the Quran.
	The chapter name is the cow chapter and the verses 195.
	And it says that Allah loves the good ones.
	And the good ones, when you read the meaning of the good ones, it means that the one who do the will of Allah, which is the jihad.
	So taqiyyah is one way is to deceive you, not to understand that concept.
	In other words, to lie for the advancement of the cause.
	Is that a good definition?
	Yes.
	So one Muslim do the jihad, the violent jihad, and another one come and say, no, it's not Islam.
	This is taqiyyah.
	This is an excellent example of taqiyyah.
	Wow.
	Well, Sophia, I want to say something to you.
	I'm sorry that you had to grow up with that evil around you.
	I'm sorry that you saw the things that you saw, live the life that you had to live.
	And I'm glad you're here.
	I wish you all the best, and thank you for telling people because a lot of people don't understand how widespread this mistreatment of women and gays and lesbians and Christians and Jews is in many of these countries that practice Sharia.
	So thank you for telling them.
	I appreciate it.
	Sean, my pleasure.
	Thank you.
	800-941, Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, Tina is in New Orleans, Rush Radio.
	Hey, Tina, how are you?
	Glad you called.
	Hey, Sean.
	Well, we had sent our son months ago to work at Disney, and he loved it, and they're still there and loves it.
	He made friends, and he was out at a bar one block away and saw all the police and everything flying by.
	And until Sunday, when we heard about the attack, even he didn't know there was a terrorist attack, but it took them hours to get home, and he's only 22 years old.
	And I'm like, my husband and I would have been on the first plane to Orlando if he hadn't answered the damn phone on Sunday when we called.
	We were absolutely shaken to the core because you think this happened.
	Think about, you know, all right, so it's almost a week that's gone by, right?
	And we've all talked about it.
	Everyone's paid attention to it.
	Now, just stop for a second and imagine if it was your son or your daughter that was killed here.
	Your life is over as you once knew it.
	It's over.
	Yeah.
	It's just done.
	And I mean, it's so heartbreaking for those families that they're never going to see their loved ones.
	All right, so you have a bunch of kids and maybe older people, maybe some old people, I guess, go to clubs too, but a bunch of young people doing what you're supposed to do on a Saturday night.
	You go out, you have fun, you have a couple of drinks, you do some dancing.
	I don't know, whatever kids do these days.
	What do I know?
	And you know what?
	But they don't deserve to die.
	They don't deserve to live through this.
	They don't deserve what happened here.
	Well, I asked Tyler if Disney made any kind of announcement, and I was kind of surprised.
	They only said, be careful.
	I'm like, are you kidding?
	Be careful.
	Yeah.
	Look, I can tell you.
	How can you know?
	How can you know that?
	They don't know.
	Let me use this as an example.
	Look, during 9-11, Linda, correct me if I'm wrong, because in 9-11, weren't people told, oh, just stay in your offices?
	Remember that guy?
	I was told that.
	I mean, that's nuts.
	No.
	If you're told to stay in your office.
	Go back.
	Everything's fine.
	No, I don't listen to anybody.
	If there's trouble, I'm getting my ass out of there or I'm going to go fight.
	Now, if the guy's near me, look, I'm just telling you, I train, my martial arts is very comprehensive.
	It's an eclectic blend.
	It's basically broken down into Israeli martial arts, jujitsu, Kempo, and it also includes blade and firearm training, and that means disarming and a lot of other tactics that I'm not going to go into right here.
	But if I'm in a situation like this and I have a chance to stop the guy, I'm going to try.
	I'm going to do my best.
	Now, most people are not trained that way.
	The best thing for them to do is to get the hell out of there.
	Right.
	You know?
	No, I've been listening to you since Terry Charbo, honey.
	Well, thank you, Jordan.
	I'm from Baton Rouge, and we used to talk like.
	Yeah, I know who you are.
	What do you think?
	I forgot.
	How many times have I said to you, operator, put me on through, got to send my love on down to Baton Rouge?
	I know.
	I know.
	And now we're in New Orleans.
	But anyway.
	All right, Tina.
	Love you.
	Thank you, babe.
	Appreciate it.
	I'm not allowed to say that.
	Thank you, babe.
	Appreciate it.
	I've known him for 15 years.
	I can say that.
	I don't mean anything biased.
	He's a regular caller.
	All right, let's get to our busy, you know, because I'm so used to talking to like my wife.
	Yeah, all right, babe.
	Whatever.
	Whatever you, you know, it's the way it happens.
	Let's go to David in Illinois.
	David, hi, how are you?
	Glad you called.
	Hi, Sean.
	Yeah, I've listened to you for years.
	I just wanted to make a comment that I watched Trump give his address after the horrible event, and he sounded more presidential and came up with more ideas than our president.
	And I listened to him and the way he was stuttering around trying to explain why he couldn't say Islamic terrorism.
	You know, I got to tell you, for a guy that's supposed to be so articulate, all I saw was angry, petulance, and you know what it seemed like to me?
	I think Donald Trump accomplished something this week.
	He's so frustrated and shamed Hillary.
	She came close to saying radical Islam.
	Donald Trump got the president to respond to eight years of not saying radical Islam.
	Donald Trump also shamed Hillary into the whole idea, oh, those countries are terrible, Saudi Arabia and Brunei and Qatar.
	And I'm like, oh, okay.
	Now after you took the money, how many years ago?
	How many millions of dollars ago?
	Now you're going to speak out?
	It's kind of funny.
	I mean, Donald Trump makes people do a lot of crap they don't want to do.
	Also, Sean, he brought up how he was going to make us safer, and he did touch on Sharia law and that it wasn't a very good thing for gays or women.
	And I just want to make one other comment.
	I'm also a concealed carrier, and I have been trained in certain police tactics.
	And I believe that if someone were at that club, three or four people, you would not have had that carnage.
	I agree with you, but I warned people.
	I know I was reading this morning that there was like a rush on AR-15s.
	I own AR-15s.
	I am trained in the use of firearms.
	Any weapon I get, actually, even at this age, even being a marksman, I still take lessons from people that are better trained than I am.
	Always, when I get a new weapon, I get trained in the use of that specific weapon.
	And I'd recommend people do that.
	Look, if you're going to pay the money for a gun, pay the money for a half-hour lesson.
	Just pay the money.
	It's worth it.
	You'll have peace of mind that you know how to use it properly and safely and securely.
	Also, any weapons you get, make sure you secure them away from kids and people that have no business being around them, okay?
	That's my advice.
	And I've carried weapons my entire adult life.
	Sean in Chicago, Illinois, on the answer.
	How are you, Sean?
	Glad you called.
	Good, man.
	How are you?
	You're a spinning image of my father.
	It's kind of funny that I'm talking, man.
	I really appreciate it.
	Thanks for the opportunity.
	You mean I look like him?
	We look a lot like that.
	Oh, poor guy.
	I'm so sorry.
	I'm so sorry.
	I feel so bad for him.
	What's going on?
	Same views as you, so that's good.
	What's happening?
	I want to share a story about a surgeon that I grew up with that was actually involved in Orlando.
	And she spent 10 hours in surgery during the time, 26 that she operated on, and nine of them died on the table.
	And she kind of grew up in a liberal background.
	And she made this comment to my sister, who's actually our maid of honor.
	And she said, all right, now I'm pissed.
	Now I get that this is radical Islam.
	And after seeing the carnage up front, she is incredibly upset and destroyed over it.
	You know, it's interesting to see that, you know, there's a lot of people whose minds have been changed out of all this.
	There really is.
	And I think people realize that Donald Trump's saying, hey, you know what?
	Don't bring in Syrian refugees.
	It's not a good idea.
	Other people saying, you know what?
	I don't think it's a good idea that our Department of Homeland Security knew about this guy and didn't keep him on a watch list so he couldn't buy a gun.
	All of those things that we have talked about again and again.
	And yet it happens again and again.
	You know, we've got to get tougher.
	We've got to build up a massive arsenal.
	When I heard from this guy, Philip Haney, this week about what he was told to do and scrub the names of Muslims with terrorist ties, it broke my heart.
	I'm thinking, people are going to die because of this.
	So, so preventable.
	All right, back to our phones.
	Thank you, Sean.
	Will also in Chicago.
	Will, we have less than a minute listening on the answer.
	How are you?
	Welcome aboard.
	Thanks.
	You know, I just want to say if my father were still alive, he would really, really love your show.
	I just want to say that right now.
	Thank you.
	You know, real quick, just a quick background.
	We grew up Irish Catholic in the city in the south side, and it was a predominantly all-Democratic ward and everything else.
	But my father was always smart to put the giant Ronald Reagan for president on our front lawn when we would have a Memorial Day parade that would go right in front of the house.
	So it kind of gave you an idea.
	And my father always felt that you can't really separate your religion.
	These were people that would go to church, and they were totally pro-abortion on demand and everything else.
	And my father would always be like, how could these people really be who they say they are?
	It just didn't make sense to my dad.
	Real quick, I only have a second.
	Real quick, Sean.
	On your show, you have a lot of people that are talking about the overwhelming Muslim majority of peaceful-loving Muslims.
	My question is this.
	Where are these majority of peaceful Muslims?
	Listen, there are many peaceful Muslims, but I've got to tell you something.
	They're all afraid to speak out against extremism.
	You want to know why?
	Because if they do, they'll be labeled apostates.
	And the penalty for apostasism is death.

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