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We have a number of people that were in the Orlando Club pulse at the time of the shooting.
They'll tell us their personal stories today.
The governor of the state of Florida has yet to hear from President Obama, who will be going down Orlando tomorrow.
Why is that happening?
Congressman Louis Gomert says that there are horrible things happening inside the House and the Senate in terms of dealing with extremism and terrorism, and the director of Homeland Security, Jay Johnson says that right wing extremists are just as much a threat to the nation as Islamic terrorists.
And one month after San Bernardino, remember 14 innocent people are killed, and the Department of Homeland Security Secretary told advisors that right wing extremists are just a big just as big a threat to the country as Islamic extremism.
You know, it's almost hard to comprehend how you can be so wrong so often on so many important issues that our country faces.
But that's really the case.
I want to say something here that I'm just I'm just going to come out and say it because I don't think anybody in the media would dare connect the dots here.
But it has to be connected.
The media is going bonkers in the last few days.
Oh, and you see Hillary and and Barack Obama are coordinating their attacks against Donald Trump.
He's he doesn't have the temperament to be president.
Okay, well, let's look at what they have done over the last number of years.
And I I gotta say something.
It's amazing to me that we're even having a debate after Chattanooga, Boston, San Bernardino, Orlando after 9-11, after the first Trade Center bombings, knowing as much as we now know about radical Islamists that the president will never mention or Hillary won't mention, and they don't want to offend people.
You know, it's it's very hard for me to understand a mindset and a mentality that this president and that this wannabe president have, meaning Hillary Clinton.
We know that this president and Hillary, you know, are so reluctant and resistant to even say the words radical Islamas.
You know, the president has repeatedly chosen over the years to side with the radicals over some of our best allies in the world.
It's breathtaking to me.
In 2009, remember when pro-American Iran Iranian demonstrators, remember they were begging at the time.
Obama, his administration, to speak out in solidarity, at least give some moral support, you know, to the green revolution in Iran.
They hoped that they could overthrow Adolf Ahmadinejad at the time.
Remember Obama stayed silent?
Remember, he later explained that he didn't want to offend Ahmadinejad because he'd have to deal with him if the Green Revolution failed.
Well, that's not what Reagan did when he called the former Soviet Union an evil empire.
We've used analogies.
You know, it's it's sort of like not identifying Nazism for Nazism.
We don't want to offend the rest of the German population.
It's absurd.
It's obscene.
And then I think maybe one of the worst offenses, then we also learned that they lied early on in the Obama years when Hillary was still Secretary of State, these negotiations to give 150 billion dollars and the rights of the Iranians to keep spinning their centrifuges and the right for them to align with Russia and create a missile defense system and the right to build up conventional weaponry, that that whole deal was started when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, and they lied about it.
They said, Oh, we waited for the more moderate regime to come into place when in fact they were caught lying.
That wasn't True.
How do you possibly explain a narrative advanced by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama?
Think about this.
That guns are the problem.
Guns are the problem.
Guns are the pro guns don't shoot themselves.
And I, you know, I don't care if guns aren't available, evil people with evil intentions are going to find a way to kill innocent men, women, and children, especially if they're doing it in the name of this radicalism, jihad.
It's just a fact.
Look at the Sarnov brothers in Boston.
Remember in 2009, and I'm sorry, 2011.
Remember Hosni Mubarak, Egyptian's Egypt's president, confronted by pro-Muslim Brotherhood demonstrators in Cairo, the Arab Spring.
Anyway, despite the fact Mubarak was America's best ally, albeit imperfect in the Arab world, what did Obama do?
Obama threw him under the bus.
He sided with the Muslim Brotherhood, and ended up giving the former head of the Muslim Brotherhood, Muhammad Morsi, is the former head of the Muslim Brotherhood, a terrorist organization, becomes the president of Egypt after the Arab Spring, and what's Obama and Hillary Clinton's reaction to this?
A guy that once referred to the Israelis as descendants of apes and pigs.
He gives them F-16s, tanks, and a billion plus taxpayer dollars.
And then even after the Muslim Brotherhood was then overthrown by probably one of the bravest men now living in the Middle East, the guy by the name of General Al Sisi, Obama continued to host Muslim Brotherhood delegations at the White House.
This is how how could you be so wrong so often as this president and as Hillary Clinton who wants to be president or the Muslim Brotherhood is the is the parent organization of Al Qaeda.
They are our sworn enemies.
The Muslim Brotherhood was behind the assassination of Anwar Sadat.
One of the most prominent, if you haven't read his autobiography, it's phenomenal.
Read it.
It's worth it.
You'll learn a lot.
Anyway, one of the most prominent members of the Muslim Brotherhood was Ayman al Zawari, who was the number two guy in Al Qaeda behind bin Laden.
This is the group that Obama backed after they threw Hose Name Barack under the bus.
And last but not least, you know, we have Obama's outright refusal and petulance now at this point to condemn Jihad.
I mean, it's unbelievable it's inexplicable.
The American media broke their necks looking the other way back in 2010.
Remember a student at St. Xavier College in Mumbai asked Obama what he thought of Jihad.
Remember that?
Obama refused to denounce it.
We have it all on tape.
We played all of this for you.
I hope somebody from the Trump campaign is listening.
Because, you know, they ought to be making this case on a regular basis.
And as unbelievable as it is, we have a president who cannot bring himself to openly and unequivocally condemn Jihad.
Hi, good day stuff.
Hi.
My name is Anna.
I'm from St. Davis College.
My question to you is what is your take or opinion about jihad?
Or jihadi?
Whatever is the opinion.
What do you think of them?
Well, the phrase jihad has a lot of meanings within Islam.
Um, and is subject to a lot of different interpretations.
But I will say that first, Islam is one of the world's great religions.
And uh more than a billion people who practice Islam, the overwhelming majority, view their obligations to their religion as ones that reaffirm peace and justice and fairness and tolerance.
I think all of us recognize that this great religion in the hands of a few extremists has been distorted to justify violence towards innocent people that is never justified.
He cannot bring himself to confront truth and reality as he lives in the Obama fantasy land.
You know, how revealing was it on this program yesterday to talk to the founder basically of the Department of Homeland Security, Philippini, describing, oh, in 2009 they had us scrubbing the names of Muslims in America that had ties to terrorism.
So that prevented them from connecting the dots.
He feels that what happened in San Bernardino could have been prevented.
He feels what happened in Orlando could have been prevented.
If in fact this president had the will, the desire to do so.
But he clearly doesn't.
You know, it's um, you know, if you look at the president and his petulant speech yesterday, directed at critics of him and mocking those who recognize truth and reality and the and recognize radical Islam for what it is, well, what exactly would this label accomplish?
What exactly would it change?
Well, I'll answer the question posed by the president because it's one of those statements that reveals so much about his ignorant mindset.
In answering the president, you got to begin with the fact that it's Obama who avoids the term radical Islam, which, by the way, best and most accurately and most truthfully defines the enemy that has declared war against us.
It's Obama who purposely disguises the link between acts of terror and militant and literal interpretation of Islam and the Quran.
And that concealment, this camouflage, started at the beginning of his administration.
Man caused disasters, overseas contingencies, workplace violence, and it continues today.
And what good is it done us?
What he did yesterday is just finally describe what's going on.
He does not want to use the phrase, he thinks it's not useful and counterproductive.
But in truth and in reality, you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set ye free.
His refusal to use the accurate phrase is just evidence that he is incapable or he refuses to accept or just speak the truth that we face a threat fundamentally that is religious and ideological.
We're not being threatened by militant Buddhists, militant Quakers, milk militant Christians or Catholics or LDS or even atheists.
We're being threatened by militant Muslims.
And he refuses to say it.
Now, look, I I've said this a thousand times before.
Not all Muslims are militant.
Vast majority are not.
But there is a significant percentage that absolutely buy into jihad and holy war and infidels and virgins in heaven, et cetera.
And frankly, those that don't buy into it have literally been quieted and silenced because they fear radicals themselves will identify them as apostates, and the penalty for apostasism within Islam is death.
So you've got his liberal multicultural PC, you know, upbringing, radical upbringing of Frank Marshall Davis and Alinsky and Acorn and Reverend Wright and Father Flager and Ayers and Dorn.
It refuses him to see the truth.
And he averts his eyes from truth and from reality.
Wall Street Journal put it pretty well.
The Islamic State sees itself as the vanguard of a religious movement rooted in a literalist interpretation of Islamic scriptures that it considers binding on all Muslims everywhere.
A small and significant fraction of Muslims agree with that interpretation, which is why Western law enforcement agencies must pay more attention to what goes on inside of mosques than in, say, Christian science reading rooms.
Well said.
Retired Army Colonel, Lieutenant Colonel, Joseph Myers, former defense intelligence agency analyst, counter and terror counterterrorism expert said, Oh, we can kill terrorists every day, but if we do not engage and confront the ideas that are generating new terrorists, Well, tomorrow we won't win the war.
And we won't win the war.
It's mathematical certainty.
If you can't acknowledge this truth, we will lose.
Michael Rubin, AEI expert.
He was quoted in the free beacon in Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, elsewhere.
Ordinary Muslims have no trouble calling out radical Islamas for what they are.
He said, it's as if a doctor was so dead set upon refusing to recognize poison ivy as the cause of a rash so as not to upset horticulturalist that instead he simply called it a red blotch that had to do with leaves, and so therefore pres prescribe cosmetics rather than cortisone to treat it.
Think about that.
It's pretty dead on accurate.
You really want to understand how delusional Obama is.
I just point out an article by a favorite Obama journalist, Jeffrey Goldberg.
He called it the Obama doctrine.
He wrote it in Atlantic magazine.
And a story by John Pethorit says pretty much the same thing that the president is almost clinically allergic to viewing the threats posed to this country to every one of you by these incidents as major national security issues.
He's just a breathtaking analysis.
800.
You know something?
And then he wants to take in these refugees.
Great.
Guaranteed ISIS will infiltrate.
Guarantee Americans die.
Let's take him in anyway.
And if you don't take him in, you're a bigot.
Wow.
And so many people are going to vote for Hillary.
She thinks the same way.
We are so stupid.
This country's going down the tubes fast.
It is literally, we are in the middle of an American implosion.
It's that bad.
We're that stupid.
We're that ignorant.
We're that disengaged.
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You really want to understand all this stuff about the president.
Really want to understand where he's coming through.
There's this guy that is sympathetic, as I was telling you from the Atlantic towards Obama.
And uh Obama frequently reminds his staff that terrorism takes far fewer lives in America than handguns, car accidents, and falls in bathtubs do.
His advisors are fighting a constant rear guard action to keep Obama from placing terrorism in what he considers, quote, its proper perspective and out of concern that he will seem insensitive to the fears of the American people.
Now, that's written by a journalist sympathetic to Obama, who had access to his thoughts and his attitudes of your president and those who are closest to him, and those who are getting a storyline out that the president wants out.
You know, what all of this is about is it's not a semantic game.
It's about a president, a rigid radical ideologue and a presidential candidate, a rigid radio radical ideologue in Hillary Clinton, and who fundamentally have a distorted world view And misguided attitudes.
And it's so, you know, it's so obvious, it's so transparent.
By their own words, this president is not terribly worried about the threat of militant Islam.
He's not overly concerned about an ideology because he can't name the ideology.
And it would kind of be a joke, you know, if we were talking about a radical professor that's teaching it some snooty snouty everything because we're talking about the president of the United States.
It's positively chilling.
And it's positively frightening.
You have a group of people, their numbers are many, at war with us in the free world, and because Obama in his own twisted mind doesn't want to offend them and has bent over backwards to accommodate Iran.
He pulled out of Iraq and created the vacuum for ISIS to grow.
He didn't go into Syria and that allowed the vacuum to be filled by ISIS.
Look what he did in Benghazi.
Look what he did in Egypt.
Why do you give the president of Egypt after the Arab Spring, Mohammed Morsi, why do you give him F 16s and tanks and a billion taxpayer dollars?
A guy that referred to our ally, our friend, Israel, as descendants of apes and pigs.
How do you do that?
How can you be so wrong?
I've been sitting here for years.
I'm going to be honest here.
Linda and I were talking about I have been sitting here on this program warning about these dangers for years, to the point where I feel like banging my head against the wall because not enough of you out there give a shh.
You just don't.
Because if you cared, you'd be involved.
If enough of you cared, there'd be no way in hell Hillary could be elected president and continue this these inane, insane policies.
You know, we put up on our website earlier today, Kennedy.com.
Presumptive Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton, is tough words for nations now that allow their citizens to fund uh terrorist organizations.
For the first time, for the first time this week, she's been shamed into two things.
One, shamed into finally kind of sorta timidly saying radical Islam.
And the second thing, after all these years and all the money that was given to either the Clinton Foundation or the Clinton Library from the most radical countries that abuse women, abuse gays and lesbians, abuse Christians, abuse people that are Jewish.
Now all of a sudden she spoke out only because she's been caught and shamed into it.
You know, she said it's long past time for the Saudis, the Qataris, the Kuwaitis to stop using their citizens from funding extremist organizations.
Wow.
She really spoke out hard this week.
Now, we've been reporting on this.
Some in the media are beginning to comment on this.
I have Donald Trump and Eric Trump on tonight.
They both have been studying this issue.
I've showed them a lot of the information about it.
They're livid about it.
They think it ought to be issue number one on the campaign trail.
But don't worry, the media's too busy trying to do hip pieces on Donald Trump and an ex-girlfriend that actually likes him, or a former beauty contestant, Kare Prajhan, who loves him, who says he helped her.
He helped her more than anybody.
And then of course, ignoring Juanita Broderick, Kathleen Willie, Paula Jones, Dolly Kyle, and all the women that Bill Clinton abuse and all the women that Hillary Clinton enabled the abuse of as they smeared, slandered, and besmirched on a regular basis, and they're allies.
So anyway, she took what, up to 25 million from Saudi Arabia, just for the Clinton Foundation alone.
Oh, let's see.
The penalty in Saudi Arabia for being gay and being involved in a gay act is punishable by death, torture, and or chemical castration.
Let's see, the state of Kuwait, where she took up to $10 million.
If you're gay, you're prosecuted under the debauchery law, and you can spend up to six years in jail.
In Qatar, $5 million donor to the Clinton Foundation.
Oh, that's right, being gay, homosexual acts are punishable by death or imprisonment.
Let's see, Oman.
Well, remember, they still allow female mutilation there, putting that aside.
Gay's face up to three years imprisonment.
United Arab Emirates, another five million dollar donor donor.
Yeah, you can you can be put to death if you're gay there.
Embassy of Algeria, or if you're gay there, you face fine and imprisonment, but they only gave 250,000, 500,000 to the Clinton Foundation.
Brunei up to five million.
If you're gay, you can die.
Punishable by death.
But gay gay and lesbians get more angry at me for saying I don't want to change the definition of marriage.
And I've been I have been saying this is life under radical Islam.
This is the foundational teachings of the Quran, the Hadith.
It is called Sharia law.
It manifests itself in different forms, but it has many similarities, not the least of which is you treat women like garbage and like cattle, and even worse, and you kill gays and lesbians, or you imprison them.
Hillary took all this money from all of these countries that don't let women drive, women are told how to dress, uh, women can't go to school or work without you know a male guy's permission, they can't go on a date, they can't leave their house without a male relative.
All of these are facts, you know, four male eyewitnesses for rape, men can have many wives, women if they commit adultery are stoned to death, a double standard patriarchal system, and the number one champion of gay rights, lesbian rights, transgender rights, and women's rights takes a fortune for them, and they bought her silence up till yesterday.
And some of you, oh, she spoke out.
Give the money back, Hillary, give it back.
And you even if you give it back, it doesn't matter.
Because it doesn't matter because you didn't give a rip when you took money because you knew damn well as the former Secretary of State, former First Lady, how horribly women are treated under Sharia law in all of these countries.
And you took their money because money was your top priority.
You sold out women, you sold out gays and lesbians, and you sold your soul in the process.
Is any Democrat gonna tell me that Donald Trump's bad for women?
Any Democrats gonna say Hillary's better on gay and lesbian and transgender issues to me?
Donald Trump didn't take money from them.
Donald Trump didn't take money from these countries.
Donald Trump didn't, you know, bow at the altar.
Remember Rudy Giuliani was given $10 million for the Twin Towers Fund?
Guy made an anti-Semitic comment, blamed Israel, he told them to take the money and shove it.
That's what a leader does.
Not what Hillary Clinton did.
They bought her silence, and she claims, and so many of you dumb people out there, actually, not most of this audience, but some of you are dumb.
So many of you buy into the narrative that Hillary is the champion of women, gay and lesbian rights.
No, she's not.
You know who's the champion of women, gay and lesbian rights, conservatives that have been warning about sharia for years.
People like me that have been banging my head against the wall, and maybe now finally, maybe some of you that have been on the fence, remaining ignorant, you might want to start paying attention.
Oh my God, women worldwide, Christians worldwide, Jews worldwide, gays worldwide, lesbians, bisexuals, transgendered worldwide, are literally being persecuted under radical fundamentalist law known as Sharia.
Oh, Hannity, you're seeing very passionate today.
It's not just today.
I have said this forever.
And nobody seems to get it.
Donald Trump gets it.
Do you really I'll tell you what?
Obama, he's buying a new multi million dollar mansion.
Where is it?
In Chicago, I guess, or is it in DC?
I don't know where he's living.
I think DC.
How about when all the refugees from Syria come in?
How about we move them right next door to him?
We can and half of 'em can go there and half of them can go next to Hillary.
Oh, because James Clapper, our director of uh intelligence, National Director of Intelligence, and James Comey, an FBI director, and our assistant FBI director, or House Homeland uh security chairman and our former special envoy to defeat ISIS, they have all said, guess what?
ISIS is gonna infiltrate, just like they did in Belgium, just like they did in Paris.
How about we move them next to you?
See, Obama got an eighty-two hundred square foot nine-bedroom house in Washington in the some Colorama neighborhood where President Obama and his family are gonna live when they leave office?
How much of that mansion of theirs cost?
Do we know?
Five million dollars.
Twenty-two oh, they're renting it.
Six million dollar estate.
We can move the Syrian refugees that he's telling us are safe.
Now, they also told us that we were safe and they put all the Gitmo detainees out there, and forty percent of them that we know of went back to commit more acts of terror and went back to Jihad.
Oh, and then they told us we were safe as it relates to the Department of Homeland Security.
We knew about this guy, but they're gonna vent all these Syrian refugees in record time.
They now, what is it, three weeks?
Three weeks, three months they're gonna vet them.
How do you ascertain if somebody buys into a radical ideology?
How do you know if an ISIS infiltrator that's trained very well can't get through the system?
I think it's very possible.
Anyway, and then of course, we're gonna give the Iranians 150, we give them 150 billion dollars, we give Mohammed Morsi, we give him F 16s and we tanks and money.
By the way, there was surprise surprise.
Guess what news the mainstream media decided to bury today?
There was a man who took hostages yesterday in Amarillo, Texas, at a Walmart.
He was shot and killed when the police confronted him with his gun, and turns out he was an Iranian immigrant.
I'm shocked.
I am stunned.
That is I'm shocking.
Let's see, the Clintons are caught in a second diploma for dollars education scam.
I can get to that today.
Let me get to some phone calls here.
Laura is in Maryland, if you want to be a part of the program.
What's up, Laura?
How are you?
Hi, Sean.
I'm great.
Thank you.
Uh first I just want to thank you for everything you do.
Um, like you, I've been pounding my head against the wall as well for years.
And um I wanted to address your question um that you asked first thing on the show.
You said, How can a president get things wrong so many times?
And then you listed all of the different things.
And I'm a person of rational mind and sound reason.
Um I deal with facts and evidence.
Perhaps we need to start asking the question that he's not getting things wrong.
Maybe he's maybe this is what he wants.
Is he playing on the wrong team?
I don't know.
I used to be a Democrat.
I switched when I started to see what happened under the Obama administration.
I look, I don't know.
I can't read the guy's heart and mind.
I know he's been radicalized at a young age, and I tried to warn everybody.
Craig Parsons is with us.
He's a father of a teen who was brutally assaulted at last week's San Jose uh Trump rally.
His uh son attacked and beaten.
We have less than a minute, Craig.
I want to give you some time.
Go ahead.
Oh, hi, Sean.
Um, first off, can I say that uh I'm gonna get my condolences to people in Florida got that got hurt in that horrible thing.
But anyway, yeah, my uh the guy attacks my son.
We have video of him hitting my son twice in the back of the head, and basically he's gonna get off scope free with a little bit of probation.
And I'm serious about it right now.
Oh, so in other words, they assault your son, they chase him around the block, they tackle him on grass, it's a m angry mob, and the guy gets nothing.
Yeah, and not to mention on Twitter he was boasting how he had fun with his friends taking off heads.
I'm so sorry, but I'm not surprised.
How many times in in Ferguson and Baltimore, we got people on video, and they're out there and doing all sorts of crimes, burning things down, looting and robbing.
We know who they are, we never follow up.
They get away with it.
We're stupid.
It's pathetic.
We're look well, the country's gonna go down the the tubes if We keep this up.
It's going down the tubes, it's in decline, and you could put the the nail on the coffin in November by electing Hillary.
You know what?
And all you Republicans that are more outspoken against Trump.
Where's by the way, where is Mr. Paul Ryan so offended at Donald Trump?
Where is he speaking out against the president's refugee program?
Where is he attacking Hillary Clinton for not saying radical Islam and taking money from these countries that treat women and minorities and Christians and Jews horribly?
Where is he?
Oh, Donald Trump is the most offensive thing in the world, not Hillary.
So sick of these people.
They're so pathetically weak.
The trauma, the horror, the death, the demise, uh the just absolute evil of Saturday night has impacted so many people and so many families in so many different ways and the entire state of Florida.
Uh Jaleesa Jones, Stephanie Kirsten, uh were at the Pulse Nightclub on Saturday night in Orlando.
Now they're dance instructors at an Orlando area high school.
It's the same high school that Jaleese attended as a student.
They were able to get out of the club through a back alleyway.
They heard everything.
They were hiding in a room.
The club is separated into different rooms, and they were standing by the DJ booth when everyone started ducking and was trapped and had to knock a fence down to escape.
Also, Joe Edwards is a pulse employee.
He lost his job and his best friend on Saturday night.
And he's attempting to organize a car wash and a benefit to help raise funds to go towards the victims.
Uh Jaleza Jones, Stephanie Kirsten, and Joe Edwards, thank you all for being with us.
And please know that our thoughts and prayers and and my audience's thoughts and prayers go out to all of you, and we appreciate your time and we're sorry you've been through all of those.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Joe, why don't we start with you?
You were a bartender as I understand it at the club for how long?
No, I'm actually a dancer, uh go-go dancer there, and I've been there since almost two thousand and twelve.
Yeah.
And um I normally don't dance on Latin night, but just normally they know me as a person that always says yes, never know.
So when they ask me to come and dance, um I I didn't hesitate.
I said yes, I'll be there.
How early do you need me to be there?
Is this like a club where d dancing struck thing goes on or something?
Because I didn't know I had never read that in any of the reports.
Well, we actually have like uh they're dancers that like almost like performers.
We make sure that the crowd stays entertained and stuff like that.
We're almost like um we're we're we're basically go-go dancers.
We're there to make sure the crowd stays amped up, keep them um occupied and satisfied when the music cuts off and things of that nature.
Uh well, you know, I you lost a best friend there.
Tell us what happened from your experience.
All of a sudden you're there doing your job like any other night, and then all and what happens.
Well, um, I was actually on top of the bars, uh dancing, um, normally where I normally dance at, and um I heard um gunshots go off.
And I knew it wasn't part of the music because on our side of the club where we normally dance at, there the music's different.
So they were playing Beyond a song by Beyonce, and I knew that Beyonce didn't have any gunshots in the um music that we were listening to, so what I did was I reached around the corner.
This is how close I was to the entrance.
I was able to still stay on the bar and reach around the corner and actually see him walk up and through the curtain, basically or through the load dangling chandelier type things that we have hanging over the door, and start firing into the crowd.
Once he started firing, I immediately just turned around, jumped out the bar and grabbed two of the bartenders and pulled them down to the ground and told him there's a guy on the other side shooting.
And uh but you know what in some of the audio, Joe that I heard, I mean, it seems look, I I've been using firearms my whole life.
It seemed like this guy was just pulling off one shot after shot after shot uh shot in rapid concession and succession.
Yes, sir.
Yeah.
Yes, sir.
He was shooting, and then it was like when he stopped, it was almost like he was changing the clip, like he was changing the max beat, and when we heard no shots, the after a while he stopped shooting.
It was like a ten second gap.
Um I just grabbed uh the bartender's hand and she grabbed the guy's hand, and we immediately took off running it because I know the club layout so well, I know that there's a a fire extra emergency exit door to the rear of the club, um, where the dancers normally get burst at.
Um, and that's where we made our exit, and there was the privacy gate right there, and we actually jumped over the privacy gate.
The female couldn't jump over.
So what I did is I had the other bartender hoist her up and I actually grabbed her once I jumped over the wall and pulled her over and that's when he uh jumped over the wall and fallen behind and we kinda ducked behind the speed boat on the side of Pulse.
Um and once we like it was clear we we just took off running and then that's when we seen everybody to the privacy fence from the outside bar area.
But you lost your best friend in this in this terror attack on Saturday.
Tell us about tell us about your friend.
Um Xavier was a dancer there um at Pulse um as well.
He's uh he's hometown at l from Atlanta but um we've been knowing each other since I started dancing.
Um he's the one who uh encouraged me to dance and always um if any of the people in the crowd didn't really like my show he always came up to me and made sure that I had a smile on my face, made sure I stayed encouraged um whenever I needed to ride to work he was always there.
So it's like it's like losing the better half of myself.
Yeah um and that's why um I've been telling everybody I haven't slept.
I haven't slept um I haven't been able to eat um in the past three days so I've been really just trying to stay focused on positive things and so that's why I came up with the idea to do a benefit dinner to help out the the fallen victims and their families and also the employees of folks because right now they're out of a job.
Some people don't have a second job.
That was their main job.
So I'm just trying to really focus on helping I heard from the club owner who and I I guess it's a woman and she said she's gonna open the club back up, right?
Yes sir, she's gonna open the club back up and um I'm a little afraid to continue on dancing but um it's not gonna deter me from going out and having a good time.
Um like I tell everybody we stand united, we stand strong, nobody can defeat us.
Yeah.
Uh Jaleza Jones by the way Joe, I'm very sorry about your friend.
I'm sorry about you know you temporarily losing your job.
I think it's a great thing you're doing for people that need help.
Uh Jaleza Jones, Stephanie Kirsten, you are both dance instructors.
Uh were you there just to have fun or were you actually working that night we were there to have fun.
It was like um the staff night out and um a couple of our guy and sector friends wanted to go there so we joined in on the function to the world's worst dancer.
I d I don't I would never even try it in a million years.
Uh you you would you would like try to give me one lesson and just say oh forget it.
Don't bother I'm that bad.
But but in all seriousness, so you it was sort of like it was it was a fun night out for you and your fellow dancers uh Jalisa and Stephanie because we were teaching a camp.
So we're teaching a camp that hosts like over three hundred dancers that come from all across Florida to come and so it was like all the instructors that were out just having a good time sharing that passion of dance together.
Yeah I ba and you know what you're allowed to have a good time in America, right?
So I thought so what happened Julisa when when things started to go down where were you and what happened?
Um we were in I believe they call it the lounge part of the club.
And we were standing right next to the side mirror where there was another go-go dancer where she was dancing.
So we were right kind of in between that corner of the DJ booth and where she was.
And then a little bit after 2 o'clock in the morning, we heard the gunshots, and they kept going one after another.
And then we all just started to duck.
And then we just waited there until there was a brief pause.
And then that was when during that pause, we decided to go towards this back alleyway of the club.
And then that's everyone started to come down that alleyway.
everyone that's when the shots started coming again and then the lights had shut off the shots were still firing.
They sounded like they were getting closer and then the lights came back on everyone was trying to go one way and they were saying no you have to go this way and the side that we were on was a dead end.
So there was no other way to get out and so people just started to bust open I believe it was a fence or something whatever it was just started to bust it down.
So you either had to climb on top of a refrigerator and try to escape through the hole or squeeze this tiny little space on the side in order to get out of the area.
Stephanie, let's talk from your perspective.
Were you with Jaleza at the time or no?
Yes, I was.
Yeah.
When the first gunshots went off, um one of the staff instructors, Luke, he jumped on top of us right away.
And that sound of those gunshots was so rhythmatic.
Um something I can't get out of my head.
Um but yeah, just like um our friend here too.
What's your name again?
The guy who's on the phone with us?
Oh, Joe Edwards, yes.
Yeah, I'm so yeah, when we heard that pause, um, I had seen banter come in and out of that area.
I've seen employees, so we just ran right into that spot, and um we did try to run to one end, they thought there was an exit that way, and it was blocked, so we ran the other way.
They said, No, you can't go this way.
And we were scrambling really really really tight like a bunch of sardines and looking at everyone's face at that moment before the lights went off.
Um was really scary, and I don't know I I don't know the layout like Jeff does, and I know that some people jumped over fences, but I don't think we were outside.
We were still definitely inside a area.
Mm-hmm and um some you know, we met somebody yesterday who I thought was the person who broke the hole, but um it was another young man named Youssef who saved so many people by jumping over the fence and unlocking a a fence door that let so many other individuals out.
Um, but for us it was our friend Malcolm who was motivating this other guy that we still have yet to find.
And that was the main reason for me wanting to share the story is because I'm still in search for the final hero to our puzzles because he wouldn't stop pounding at that fence to get it open.
And um, like Jalisa said, Jaleeza and I were by each other the whole time, but that's when we separated, she jumped over the refrigerator and I had a squeeze through a small little area where another guy so heroic was just helping each individual out of the hole.
I'm so sorry.
I really uh you know, Stephanie, this is heartbreaking to hear.
I understand you have a uh you have a lot of kids, right?
How many kids do you have?
I have four kids on my own, yeah.
Yeah, and I bet you know, when this is happening, you're thinking I gotta get home to my kids.
Oh, I'm telling you, and and I respect everybody for everyone's different beliefs, everyone's different feelings, thoughts, everybody to each their own, can have their own lifestyle.
I'm not here to judge anybody, but I know it was the grace of God.
As soon as I was done praying, and I just prayed that I could get home safe and we could get out of the club as soon as I was done praying, is when that gate opened up when we were able to go out that hole.
Unbelievable very, very thankful.
I mean, that's so traumatic what you're describing and so difficult.
You know, Lovin, let me ask you all this question.
Uh uh did any of you see the shooter.
Did any of you notice was there ever any indication that there was more than one shooter?
I have not heard that, but I just wanted to ask any of you.
Um I actually saw uh when I recently looked around the corner and saw him actually coming in with the gun.
That's why I was telling everybody on the news.
Um it was a shock to see that him walking in there with not a jacket on, just in regular clothes and carrying such a a big gun for him to even have made it in the door.
It was just a shock to me to see that.
And I saw him face I saw his face like as clear as day.
And um it's it's in it's imprinted in my head.
That's another reason why I I can't sleep, because like I said, I lost my friend, so that his face is imprinted and then the shooter's face is imprinted and I haven't been able to sleep at all.
Now, Jeff, did you see him come through the front door or the back door?
The front door.
He came to the front end.
See, that's what and that's where we heard the gunshots from but you look on the internet and they keep trying to say that he came through the back door and we didn't know from there.
We definitely heard him from the front.
That was a front door there the back door there's no way to get into the club through the back she was saying to you there's a privacy fence and they keep those privacy fences locked.
Let me let me ask you let me ask you because I'm running out of time I am so angry at the fact that our that our Department of Homeland Security they they had this guy in a watch list.
I'm angry that they let this slip through the cracks.
I'm angry that you know in in a political sense I do a lot of political talk.
I'm angry that Hillary takes money from countries that treats women and gays and lesbians horrible um in in a horrible fashion.
I'm angry at the political side of this any of you have any political thoughts um I think my only thought oh go ahead go ahead ladies first.
No go ahead you go um my only thought and my only concern would be that um I was being a gay community we don't get the same type of protection as they do in street clubs.
I I stress I don't stress this enough if you go downtown Orlando downtown Orlando to any of the clubs you're gonna find that they have security they patch you down before you get in.
You can't get into any clubs without police presence being around you.
But when you go to these gay nightclubs and um different events uh for the LGBT community you never find those types of precautionary measures taken.
That's why it was so easy for him to come in.
We don't have any security blocking that door I gotta tell you what that's just not right.
You know I I've I I'll just say this and I gotta let you all go and I want you to know you're in our thoughts and prayers and and I think it's great what you're doing Joe.
Um I've been a gun o I've carried a gun in New York in in Rhode Island, California, Alabama, and Georgia and you know you can't licensed gun owners are not allowed to bring their guns into clubs.
Right.
And I and I if I'm in a club if I'm in San Bernardino, if I'm down at Pulse in Orlando, I would rather have armed people in there that are responsible.
Right and I think all right you're all in my thoughts and prayers our audience sends our best to you and please uh please know we're thinking about you all thank you so much.
I'm sorry you all went through that.
And this is attack on Orlando a gay nightclub attack on gays, attacks on Hispanics, attack on our country.
When are we gonna say enough is enough and say we are absolutely going to destroy ISIS right we're gonna stop the evil of radical Islam.
We've got to s at some point say when is 49 enough?
How many more can there be?
Well I mean you tell that to the people of San Bernardino tell the people at Fort Hood, you know, tell the people they see the uh ISIS threat here and the president states does not see it that way.
He was talking about guns yesterday why is it so easy to get an AR fifteen and on Thursday I imagine that'll be the case has the president spoken to you yet no he has not called a staff first call but no he's not called the second amendment didn't kill anybody.
Evil radical Islam ISIS they killed we have got to start standing up for this country.
This is our country we just we have to say we're gonna vet people before they come into our country.
If you disagree with our what our country believes in why in the living day lecture you're allowed in our country.
I mean we have 49 people dead dead murder right here 43 people in the hospital still bo I was at the hospital last night still having surgeries.
Risky they're they're not sure they're gonna live when do we stop this all right that was Governor Rick Scott talking about what happened the tragedy in Orlando right on right on point, right on message and sadly the Florida governor has now had to point out Obama never called him how is that even possible?
Governor our thoughts and prayers go out to the peop of the Sunshine State we love our friends in Florida, especially Orlando.
It's a little scary to to learn and to read that this terrorist was scoping out Disney as well.
Very frightening how are you sir?
Oh Sean it is oh gosh it's tough talking to these families.
I cried with a mother that re you know told me about the last 48 hours of her son's life every detail and then how he bled to death in the Pulse the the gay night club trying to stop the shooter and the young lady fortunately stayed with him while he you know he basically lost consciousness and and passed away.
I talked to a dad who is grieving he lost his son, but he said, when are we going to start making sure that it that all local law enforcement ha officers have the same information that our fail federal agencies have.
You know, we've got the way I look at it is we've I lost Steven Sotloff, a journalist down in Miami, beheaded by ISIS in 2014.
Forty nine people murdered, slaughtered, just slaughtered here.
They picked the community and slaughtered them.
Forty-three people injured.
And when are we going to say to ourselves as a country?
This is absolutely the last.
We are going to destroy you, ISIS.
If you're part of radical Islam, you're not going to be in our country.
Listen, I I think you you nailed this governor, and I know you were out there from the early moments that this whole thing began, and I know you probably haven't slept a lot in between, but I think you're right in saying the second amendment didn't kill anybody.
Evil radical Islam, ISIS killed people.
We have to start standing up for our country.
Now we discovered that the FBI had this guy on a watch list for a period of time, and unfortunately, you know, for whatever reason, and I'm I'm never critical of law enforcement, but I have to be concerned, and I think we have to examine some important questions that you know radical Islamists now have killed ninety-four Americans on our soil since nine eleven.
Our own government, the Department of Homeland Security, forbids the use of the term jihad and sharia because they say it's too disrespectful.
You have our Homeland Security Secretary saying gun control is uh now a matter of ho uh homeland security.
And then we look at the numbers that we have now resettled nearly three quarters of a million migrants from countries that execute gays and lesbians and illegal immigrants overstay their visas.
They never get caught.
Even people convicted of a crime earlier in the week I interviewed a father who lost his son.
Well, he lost his son to an illegal immigrant who had previously raped a woman and kept her hostage for a week.
Orlando's Muslim population has grown tenfold just in the last eight years.
And I think we have to examine and ask ourselves whether or not if people grow up under a system of government that is totally and completely contradictory to our constitutional republic.
Do they want to come here to assimilate or do they want to come here and do they want to advance what it is they believe to be the right form of government?
In other words, not assimilate, separate, indoctrinate, and create a theocracy here in America.
I think it's a fair question.
This is our country, Sean.
I'm fed up.
When you if you know, anybody, anybody that walks, you know, you won't go around, talk to one of these family members that lost a loved one, talk to the individual that got shot.
I mean, they this was an absolute terror act.
This is absolutely as a result of not destroying ISIS.
In my mind, we have got to destroy ISIS.
We've got uh we've got to have, you know, our federal government has to stand up and say, we are responsible for the safety of every every person that lives in our country.
First off, if you don't believe in our way of life, don't come to our country.
This is not your country, this is our country.
We get to choose those things.
You don't have a right to come here.
We get to choose who comes to our country.
If we can't bet you, you're not coming.
I want my family to be safe.
Me too.
I want my my kids and my grandkids to live in a society that is safe.
Listen, it's very listen, I don't think people understand you're you have people growing up in countries where men are brought up to believe they can tell women how to dress.
They're brought up to believe they can decide if a woman goes to school or work.
They decide that women can't drive.
You know, it is a a system that is the antithesis of that on which we have grown up under.
And so I think we have to every right to understand what people's intentions are before they come here.
But let me ask you a more political question.
Now, have you heard from Obama yet at all?
I know you've heard from Donald Trump.
I know George W. Bush reached out to you.
Anyone else?
Sure.
Um Mayor Giuliani called.
There's a variety of governors that have called.
President Obama called me about an hour ago and said he was uh coming tomorrow.
Gee, how nice of them to finally get in touch with you.
Uh what I ask him is um I asked for a federal declaration of emergency on Monday.
We have I have not heard back yet.
Uh so he didn't have an answer on that yet.
I declared a state emergency to make sure I we have all the state resources, but we still have not heard back from the federal government, but the president is coming here tomorrow.
Mm-hmm.
Will you be with the president?
Did he invite you to join him?
He uh uh he invited me to uh I I will meet him on the trim act.
I don't know the rest of the schedule.
I'll wait until I know the rest of the schedule.
I'm what I'm doing, Sean, is making sure that if there's any resources necessary for law enforcement for victims, that those are all coordinated.
That's step one.
Step two, I'm meeting with families and making sure that any resource they need.
I want to thank Jet Blue, they've offered flights.
I want to thank funeral directors for offering funerals.
There's so many people showing up and being just absolutely gracious.
So we're coordinating that.
Um the uh the attorney general has uh we're working with her office with victim advocates for every family.
So that uh that's I think that's working well.
We are making sure that one of the issues here's the issue today.
I talked to uh some individuals today, they're worried that somebody's gonna come protest their funeral.
Um you know, I'm I wanna I want I Are you you mean that group, what's the name of that nutty Westboro Baptist church people?
Is that what they're worried about?
They want to come down here and protest uh funeral.
I mean, give gosh.
Leave these families alone for crying out loud they've suffered enough for crying.
I I hate these people are so hateful.
All right, let me ask you this.
So let me just remind you Josh Ernest earlier today was asked about the issue of whether or not the president will see you, and they said, Oh, they hope they'll see you.
So you talked to the president an hour ago, and what exactly did he say on the phone?
Well, first off, I I told him uh that I would meet him at the tarmac tomorrow.
Yep.
He um I told him I don't know the rest of your schedule, so uh I'm you know, so it you know if you it's your team will let me know the rest of your schedule if I can be I mean look I offered to be helpful because I think it's the right thing to do.
Uh if the President of the United States is coming to your state, I want to be helpful to the President.
Uh so we'll see we'll see what happens.
I ask about uh the uh federal uh declaration of emergency.
Uh the President didn't have an answer uh yet on that.
So my you know, how does he not have an a how does he not have an answer on that by at this late hour?
But well, I'm gonna represent my state.
Um you know, we are a wonderful state, we have wonderful people.
We're gonna get back to work uh in our state, but I'm gonna do everything I can to help these families get their lives back as much as I can.
And uh you know, it's you know, this is clearly a terror attack.
It was acting as gays, uh Hispanics, or we have we're a great you know, Sean, you've been down here.
It's a great melting pot state.
We have so many people from all over the world.
We love people, uh, but we we're sick and tired of ISIS.
Well, I gotta be honest on a political front, and I think you're dead on and and accurate in your remarks and as in terms of analyzing the events and what has happened here.
Um I am a little disappointed that the president may have reached out to the mayor of Orlando, his buddy uh Mayor Buddy Dyer, but uh not reach out to the governor, which is you, and I think you're being very gracious to meet him on the tarmac and opening yourself up and your schedule up if he needs you in any way, but it doesn't seem that the president's too interested in the governor of Florida and can't put politics aside.
But let me just say this, Governor, I think you've done a great job here.
I w I want you to know and because I'm reading my mail that I I can tell you the people in this audience from all around the country that our thoughts and our prayers are with our friends in Florida.
Uh if anything we could ever do to help, please don't hesitate to call us.
If there's any family you find in need, desperate need and you need outside help, well, we'll be glad to jump in and fill the void.
Anything we could do, you let us know.
Sean, that's very gracious, and thank you.
Thank you very much.
I want to thank your audience.
We there's been so much support from all over the country and all over the world for what's happened down here for these uh families that have been impacted by this terrorist act.
Yeah.
All right, thank you, Governor.
You're in our prayers and you and Pam Bondy and the rest of the good folks down in Florida.
Thank you for what you're doing.
All right, thanks, Sean.
Have a good day.
You too.
800 nine four one Sean, our toll free telephone number.
Uh MJ is in Florida.
MJ, how are you?
Glad you called, and thank you for being with us.
Hey, how are you doing today, Sean?
How are you doing?
I'm good, thank you.
Listen, uh, I hope he doesn't do a uh Chris Christie.
I hope he does uh a Jan Brewer and shakes his finger at him when he comes down there.
This is absolutely uh awful what's going on down here in my state.
I'm sorry.
Originally from New York.
And you had Phil Haney on your show last night, and it absolutely blew my mind.
So I hope uh Governor Scott shakes his finger at him and says, Hey, maybe if you didn't make us destroy that list, DHS had started in two thousand three when he came into the office, perhaps we could have stopped this like we could have stopped San Bernardino.
Yeah, uh listen, uh you know, the guy that we had on this Phil Haney guy, uh we put him on TV last night.
We had him on radio yesterday.
Imagine that he's being told basically to scrub the names of Muslims that are on the watch list for what possible reason.
What is the justification of that?
Except that it prevents people like him that are really, really brilliant from doing their job.
It's it's it's willful blindness and what it is like with the wife that I don't want to mention her name of that furruk guy in San Bernardino, is trying to protect the rights that these people are not supposed to have when she came in on that on that visa.
They are not instead of worrying about our second amendment rights of American citizens, how about let's worry about the first amendment rights of these uh uh aliens, these visa aliens that come in here, they do not have a First Amendment right.
So we should be able to look at their Facebook and their social media and be able to see them spouting off and and you know pledging allegiance to ISIS, and we'd be able to maybe have prevented this and definitely would have been able to prevent uh San Bernardino.
And I felt just sick when I when I when I said that last night with this gentleman from DHS.
And Jay Johnson has a lot of explaining to do.
Yeah, I will tell you the things he said are just outrageous.
Anyway, thank you, MJ.
Our thoughts and prayers go out to your state and our friends in Florida.
Lisa, we only have about 45 seconds, Lisa.
You lived in Saudi Arabia.
Tell us what is life for women like there.
It's extremely oppressive.
And if you're a Western woman, it's even more oppressive.
Because if you're not Saudi or Arab, you have no right at all.
They have all the rights.
And women are I mean, walking around in a hundred degree heat in a burqa, that in itself is oppressive.
But women are only allowed to hold jobs when they touch other women because men can't touch women.
That's the only reason they're allowed to work.
They are um educated as far as they want them to be.
If you're a Western woman walking around in a burqa, they touch you, they fondle you, they grab you.
You can't even report it to the police.
And if the Saudi, you might get arrested.
Because you complained against the Saudi nationals.
It's awful.
If these people watch Sharia law, they need to stay in their own countries.
It is totally against our freedom and our constitution.
And I everything you say about it is right, and the people need to listen to you because you are absolutely correct on everything you say about Sharia law.
You know, I get criticized for it, but I've can't I'm not gonna stop speaking out about it.
I hate the fact that women are oppressed.
I hate the treatment, you know.
I I know gays and lesbians disagree with Hannity on changing the definition of marriage.
Big deal.
But I've been speaking out about how gays and lesbians are executed routinely in countries under Sharia law.
And you know what?
We can argue about gay marriage and prevent you know the death of innocent people.
It's none of our business what people do.
But secondly, and and the treatment and Hillary takes and Hillary takes money from these countries and doesn't criticize these countries.
What does that tell you about her?
Well, right, and when she wears a headscarf, she's not respecting them, she's submitting to them.
That's the way they see it, and it pains me every time I see it.
And people don't understand Sharia law.
When you see a woman who's been beaten a hundred times with a cane pole because she argued with her husband, that is horrifying.
How long did you live in Saudi Arabia?
I lived in Saudi Arabia often on.
I was sixteen years old when my parents moved there, and I had to go to boarding school in England because they won't educate you past sixth grade.
Um, and I lived there off and on for two years.
Right.
And it was it was horrible and it was dangerous, and if I was to get raped, as you said, it would have been my fault.
Why were you out?
You shouldn't have been out without male supervision.
Um it it's not a woman-friendly place.
And I've already told my husband if Sharia Libra came to this country, I'm gonna go down guns-blazing because I will never be subjected to that again.
Thank you for being with us, Lisa.
So you think adultery for a woman is a death penalty offense.
Not just a woman.
Why do you want to specify women?
Because as I see the women being stoned to death, and I don't see the men.
Are they stoning the men to death?
Well, are they?
I don't know.
Okay, I I see I only the only thing I see, and I haven't seen with my own eyes, but but I see the women getting stoned to death for adultery, I don't see the men getting stoned to the body.
This is this is unfair.
You know, I I do if that was the case, I would agree with you that this would be a biased type of approach.
W uh what I condemn is the concept that stoning is an is an inappropriate punishment for adultery.
Because we find in the Quran and in the Sunnah that we stone a person who is an adulterer mean has been married.
However, I and I don't think that we have a foot to stand on when when we s talk about when we Americans talk about some the death penalty when we also implement the death penalty.
I I guess the other thing too is I guess i i in Islam, a man can have more than one.
Still, adultery is adultery.
Woman, a man should be a man can have more than one wife, but a w a wife can't have more than one husband, right?
Of course not.
But still, of course not.
Of course, that's not natural.
All right, Hillary Clinton.
Hillary Clinton, as a Muslim, I object to Hillary Crinton.
No, I don't believe a woman should be the president of of a nation.
Our Prophet taught us that whenever a woman is in charge, it's going to be problems.
What if she's on a menses and it's time to go to war?
She's gonna press the button because she's angry, you know?
Uh-uh.
I don't believe that she should be put in that position.
You know, we're still debating whether a woman should be in the battlefield with men.
And we're gonna make a woman a president?
No way.
She hit those tick those records of her her her phone calls and stuff like that.
No.
People when she was what's that white water thing, people on a staff decided to all of a sudden commit suicide?
I don't trust Clinton at all.
So when they behead uh James Foley, uh a journalist, your thought is what?
I believe some journalists need to be beheaded, but I wouldn't have done that.
You believe some journalists need to be beheaded?
I always say that facetiously.
Okay.
And that and it in the So how do you how do you just how do you in any way well, how can you in any way uh justify I suspect I'm not justifying it?
I was I was just saying that, you know, no.
I don't justify any of their activities.
And no, I don't think that I'm so shouldn't should so shouldn't we stop them?
No.
Why would you because they're beheading people, beheading Americans?
Okay, we don't we have our own problems here?
Yeah, we got problems here, but is it our business?
Well, apparently it's some of those problems are being imported here.
Only because I think I think that because we feed into this and we grow it here.
And let me make a final point.
For a while now, uh the main contribution of some of my friends on the other side of the aisle have made in the fight against ISIL is to criticize this administration and me for not using the phrase radical Islam.
That's the key they tell us.
We can't beat ISIL unless we call them radical Islamists.
What exactly would using this label accomplish?
What exactly would it change?
Would it make ISIL less committed to trying to kill Americans?
Would it bring in more allies?
Is there a military strategy that is served by this?
The answer is none of the above.
Calling a threat by a different name does not make it go away.
This is a political distraction.
Since before I was president, I've been clear about how extremist groups have perverted Islam to justify terrorism.
As president, I have repeatedly called on our Muslim friends and allies at home and around the world to work with us to reject this twisted interpretation of one of the world's great religions.
There's not been a moment in my seven and a half years as president where we have not been able to pursue a strategy because we didn't use the label radical Islam.
Not once has an advisor of mine said, Man, if we really use that phrase, we're gonna turn this whole thing around.
Not once.
All right, there it is.
The president can't say the words justifying it with great indignation.
And if you want my opinion on his reaction to uh all of this, it's very passive aggressive.
I mean, here's the the president, you know, he has no problems giving, you know, arms to Mohammed Morsi, a guy that was the former head of the Muslim Brotherhood, a terrorist organization, and uh guy that referred to Jews as descendants of apes and pigs, he'll give him let's see, F-16s and tanks and and billions of taxpayer dollars.
He'll give the Iranians a hundred and fifty billion dollars, but God forbid you have a a right to second amendment and you have your own weapons.
Oh, that's that's hard.
We've got to think rethink the second amendment.
Uh before that it was my uh friend and colleague uh Greta Van Sustra just tearing this imam up and exposing him as the fool that he is about stoning adulterers and beheading Well, some journalists need to be beheaded, talking in the context of James Foley and much more.
Joining us now, Brigitte Gabriel, terror expert, analyst, founder, CEO of Act for America, Amur Tsar is with us, Arab American speaker, writer, professor.
Welcome both of you to the program.
Uh Brigitte, I have had these I have had similar exchanges with Imams on this program on my TV show.
Uh when you start pinning these guys down as to what their real beliefs are, they do believe in radicalism.
And then it raises this other question.
Under Sharia, if you think you can tell a woman how to dress, and you think you can tell her whether she has permission to go to school or to work, if a man can have multiple wives, a woman is stoned for adultery, gays and lesbians can be executed, and you tie it to Hillary Clinton, champion of gay rights, lesbian rights, and and and women's rights, taking money from all of these countries.
You cannot disconnect the dots here that it is it it is totally and completely hypocritical for her to take that money.
They have bought her silence.
I want to get your reaction.
Well, of course they did buy her silence.
And again, when you corner people when you are debating with them about what the Quran teaches.
And uh not only what the Quran teaches, but the actions of Muslim countries and Muslims throughout the world.
Uh uh, they did not know what to say.
I heard your fantastic dialogue yesterday, your conversation with the Imam who called you uh uh from Colorado, and you put him in such a corner, he couldn't even respond to all what you came back to him.
Uh the when you start throwing the facts in their face, they do not know how to answer.
Right now, Sean, the world is truly facing a clash of civilization.
Our leaders must recognize that we are dealing with something that's completely opposed to everything we stand for, whether in values, whether in freedoms, whether in a way of thinking, rather even in the value of how they value their own children and their own lives compared to the way we value our lives.
That is criminal that our leaders are not willing to stand up and speak the truth about the enemy we are facing, radical Islam.
Even though most Muslims in the world are moderate, what we are fighting right now, and who is killing thousands of people is radical Islam, and in order for us to win the war, we have to identify our enemy by name.
Let me ask you, Mr. Tsar, this question.
Andy McCarthy argued that the inspiration for Muslims to brutalize and mass murder gay people does not come from ISIS.
It is deeply rooted in the Islamic law, Sharia, affirmed by many of Islam's most renowned scholars.
True or false.
Well, look, I mean, let me start by saying I'm not sure.
How about it?
Let's start by saying answering the question, because I that's a very pointed question.
Okay, well then the answer is false.
But you want to if you actually want an academic real answer, give me a second here.
As somebody who has studied these things and has taught these things, first of all, there is no one cohesive Sharia law.
There's many different schools of thought within Islamic law that say different things about these things.
There is nothing in Sharia law that actually talks about uh death for these sorts of simply homosexual acts that actually talks about uh lashing for these things, like in the Quran.
But look, at the end of the day, I'm a secular person.
I'm glad that I live in America where religious law of any kind is not implemented uh in our legal system.
And in fact, throughout all Muslim communities in this country, when people talk about Sharia law, there has never been a Muslim community in this country who has asked for Sharia law to be implemented in the American.
Excuse me, but we but we have examples all over.
First of all, there that's not exactly or entirely true.
There's been debates in this country about setting up separate Sharia courts, but but that's neither here nor there.
In Great Britain, they have eighty-eight Sharia courts.
They have listen, as much as much as the media may deny it.
Excuse me.
Okay, but but Great Britain setting up uh a system that does not absolutely mandate full and complete assimilation creates a divide.
Now, if you grow up in a country that practices sharia law and you dictate what a woman wears, whether she can drive, go to work, go to school, four male eyewitnesses needed for rape.
Women need in Saudi Arabia male relatives to even go outside for crying out loud.
They can't be outside, seen outside without somebody that's not a relative.
And I ask you the question when we are ascertaining whether to take people in that grew up in this culture, which so contradicts our constitutional republic, how do we possibly ever ascertain what is in the heart of the person that would like to come to this society, whether or not they bring their values with them, they desire a theocracy here, want to proselytize us, or whether they prefer to assimilate and adopt American values.
That is a fair question.
It's not an unfair question, but let me say this the premises on which you ask the question are not true.
No, the premises under which I asked Sir, you're wrong.
The pre everything I've said about life and you listen, you unfortunately you don't have the first inkling of academic knowledge about the Arab world or the Middle East.
There is no country in the Arab world that fully implements Sharia law.
There's countries that implement the Aaron.
Mr. Tsar, let's go through the fact.
Listen, listen, listen.
I don't have time for your BS, and I'm going to go through this very quickly.
In Saudi Arabia, can women drive a car?
In Saudi Arabia, can women drive a car?
Yes or no?
Saudi Arabia is a terrible.
I'm asking you.
All right, well, let's go to a let's go to Iran.
In Iran, let's go to Iran.
How are women treated in Iran?
How are women treated in Brunei?
How are uh what is the law in Brunei, Saudi Arabia, uh, and Qatar as it relates to gays and lesbians under Sharia?
Doesn't it call?
Doesn't it allow execution?
Yes, it does.
Yes, it does.
In Oman, excuse me.
In Oam, don't they allow genital mutilation of women by law?
Yes, they do.
In Saudi Arabia, women can't drive.
I'll answer the question for you.
In Saudi Arabia, women can and are told how to dress.
In under the Taliban and Afghanistan, they decided if women could go to school or go to work.
True or false, sir.
That is absolutely the case.
You don't know what you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
No, no.
Unfortunately, unlike you, I'm not sure.
You are extraordinarily ignorant and you are defending.
Unfortunately, you are lying and deceiving the American public because remember, you have another Arab who speaks the full classical language with you on this interview, and that is me.
So don't give us the lie that Sharia is not implemented in Islamic countries, and don't give us the lie that the Quran doesn't say anything about gay people.
I'm holding in my hand the Quran right now and the hadith.
And and Sahih Thermizi is very specific about what the Quran says.
The prophet said, quote, kill the one who satomizes and the one who let it be done to him.
That is very clear.
You cannot mince words here.
You have to realize that you can fool some of the people some of the times, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
The American public is waking up and realizing that we are being fed a a bunch of garbage on lies by Arab and Islamic pundits coming on television lying to us.
She is not she has not studied any of these issues.
She doesn't teach any of these issues yet.
Excuse me.
Excuse me.
Oh, wait, wait.
Listen, you have now tried to insult me.
Now you're trying to insult my guests.
I have known Brigitte Gabriel, she has been a guest on my programs for over a decade.
She knows more than you are even beginning to touch on the surface about, and your ignorance here, or perhaps your propaganda, I don't know your true motivation, is breathtaking.
The fact that you won't even acknowledge simple basic known truths tells me that you've got some other agenda.
Who likes to live in a secular society?
That's who I am.
Well, what I'm saying is you like to talk about these things.
Then talk about life.
Is it or is it not true that gays and lesbians, as a matter of law in Saudi Arabia, Brunei and Cutter can be executed?
Is that true or false, sir?
Uh under certain circumstances they do do that.
That's correct.
I'm saying the truth.
All right, so let's go back to the basics.
Can can women in Saudi Arabia drive a car, sir?
What we're arguing is about America.
No, I'm asking you very pointed questions.
I'm asking you whether or not to this country.
I am asking I am asking whether women can drive a car in Saudi Arabia.
What is the law say?
Do you even know?
Of course, of course I know that they can.
All right.
Are women or are women under Sharia law?
Let me finish.
Are women under Sharia law told how to dress?
You don't know anything about it.
All right, get off my phone.
You're just you're just ignorant.
I have no time for you insulting me and insulting our guests.
Brig, tell everybody how many years you have studied Sharia and radical Islamists.
Listen, I not only studied it and made it my mission to understand it because I'm a victim of Islamic terrorism when the Islamist blew up my home when I was ten year old little girl in Lebanon and ended up living in a bomb shelter for seven years of my life from the age of ten till the age of seventeen.
I made it my mission as an adult to understand why people do the way they the the the things that they do and why Islamic terrorism was spreading like wildfire and they wanted to kill people like me.
And that's when I was in the Middle East.
I became news anchor for world news in the Middle East between nineteen eighty-four and nineteen eighty-nine, reporting on world events on the rising of Islamic terrorism.
I followed it through my life because it affected my life.
I read the Quran in Arabic, and by the way, I was a news anchor in the classical Arabic airing throughout the Middle East every night on Middle East television reading the news.
So for someone to say, Oh, you don't understand what you're talking about, you don't understand the Middle East.
What what these liars in America who are trying to deceive the American public with their uh uh a high foot luton scholarly, I'm a secularist and I'm in America and I love America.
Instead of them lying to the American public, they need to realize that there are plenty of brilliant people from the Middle East who do speak the Arabic language, who's by the way, in my case my mother tongue, who can understand and debate them on these issues.
And also aren't they d doesn't he sound like somebody that is literally have an agenda that wants to lie on purpose?
You hit the nail on the head.
This is somebody with an agenda.
This is somebody purposefully lying and trying to debate you.
For him to say that Saudi Arabia does not uh practice Sharia law is baloney.
For him to say that in Brunei, Sharia Allah is not followed is baloney.
These are facts that even uh the the least educated in America at least understand how uh uh the way of life is in Saudi Arabia.
But that's why Sean.
The American public must mobilize, must understand what's going on.
I encourage people to go to our website, Actfor America dot org and join us.
We are the NRA of national security.
We are mobilizing the country.
Go to act for America.org and join us.
Rajit, thank you for being with us.
I mean it's so insulting to one's basic intelligence.
Oh you don't know what you're talking about.
Yeah we do.
We don't lie on this program.
They know full well who the enemy is so do the intelligence and law enforcement officers who spend countless hours disrupting plots and protecting all Americans including politicians who tweet and appear on cable news shows.
They know who the nature of the enemy is so there's no magic to the phrase radical Islam.
It's a political talking point.
It's not a strategy and the reason I am careful about how I describe this threat has nothing to do with political correctness and everything to do with actually defeating extremism.
Groups like ISIL and al Qaeda want to make this war a war between Islam and America or between Islam and the West they want to claim that they are the true leaders of over a billion Muslims around the world who reject their crazy notions.
They want us to validate them by implying that they speak for those billion plus people that they speak for Islam.
That's their propaganda that's how they recruit and if we fall into the trap of painting all Muslims with a broad brush and and imply that we are at war with an entire religion then we are doing the terrorist work for them.
You know we went through a weekend the likes of which we should never have to see again and I wrote a few things down that I want to read because we can't let this happen anymore.
We can't.
We have to be so tough.
We have to be so strong.
We have to be so vigilant.
We can't be led by weak, ineffective people.
We can't.
They're weak and they're ineffective.
And believe me, Hillary Clinton, weak, ineffective.
You listen to her.
I don't know if you know, she has 550 percent more people.
She wants to come in than Obama from a country.
a certain area where we just don't know what's going on.
We don't know who they are where they're coming from there's no documentation.
Alright that was uh earlier today that was Donald Trump on the stump by the way I see my friend from Master Bill outside he's gonna bring us in some pulled pork we had some for lunch today.
Uh if you want the perfect Father's day gift wait till you hear from John in a minute.
Louis though is with us now there's horrible things happening inside the House and the Senate with regard to dealing with extremism and terrorism the director of Homeland Security Jay Johnson has made a lot of comments well right wing extremists are much more of a threat to this country than Islamic terrorism.
The DHS has forbidden the use of the term jihad and sharia we know the president he didn't even bother by the way calling Rick Scott as we know of Florida who joined us.
Now J Johnson gun control is now a matter of homeland security but in the meantime the U.S. resettled nearly three quarters of a million migrants from countries that execute gays and lesbians we know that Orlando's Muslim population grew tenfold in the past decade.
Anyway, Louie Gohmert is here.
He only has a few minutes because he has to run to the floor.
Tell us what's happening, Louie.
Well, you know, you have made this point over and over as much or more than anybody, whether in elected office or not, that we do need to, you know, like a doctor, you have got to make a proper diagnosis.
And as you pointed out over and over, it is radical Islamist jihad.
It's radical Islam.
That's what it is.
Muslim leaders in Egypt and other places Behind the scenes have said, look, what's wrong with you guys?
Can't you recognize Muslim Brotherhood?
These are radicals.
They're at war with you.
They're Islamists and we don't like them.
And this president won't say the words radical Islam.
Our leaders here in the House, God bless them, they've been saying the same thing.
So great.
So what are we going to do?
Well, there were three bills that were passed uh on a day early this year that uh when nobody was here yet, everybody was expected to be here by 630, and we're not supposed to pass anything on the suspension bill uh docket with a voice vote unless it's completely non-controversial.
And uh when Boehner was speaker, we some of us would come back early and just watch because he let bills through with voice votes that we couldn't agree with.
Well, they've combined those three bills that's gonna really show the world that we're serious about radical Islamism, except there's nowhere in these nine pages it mentions it Islam radical or otherwise.
It is So why why are Republicans falling into this stupid trap?
This is nuts.
We've we've been saying that countering violent extremism isn't doing it.
And according as you pointed out, the you know, you got Jay Johnson, head of Homeland Security, they're so worried about these right-wing extremists, the people that believe in the Constitution.
You know, Reverend Reverend Franklin Graham said to Obama, how many Americans have to die before you understand the threat of radical Islam?
Well, and that's a great question.
So we need to put it in the bill because when we if we just mentioned countering violent extremism, they can use that to go after conservatives and say they're a bigger threat.
So what we have is a bill that number one, it's gonna help train Homeland Security and local and state folks uh to to administer community awareness briefings to counter violent extremism.
That's what it says.
And the Secretary of Homeland Security shall assess the efforts of the Homeland Security to support countering violent extremism.
I'm reading from the bill as I flip through.
And uh then Secretary of Homeland Security shall notify appropriate conjunction.
Let me let me ask you this, because I know you have a vote.
You have a vote in like 30 seconds, so I'm gonna lose you.
Here's my last question.
Are Republicans gonna stop this?
Is the Freedom Caucus against this?
Uh I I just talked to Jim Jordan brief briefly earlier, and you know, I'm not part of the Freedom Caucus, but um I don't know.
They're they have said publicly they are against any more bills that empower C VE or countering violent extremism, and I'm not sure if they are because see, we're gonna do this bill and vote for it this week so we can show the world we're standing in the world.
I'll tell you what we're gonna do.
I know you got to vote.
I'm gonna have you back on the air tomorrow and give us an update.
Would that work for you?
Okay, but I gotta go.
Empower the Allah that's on the advisory council that says she can't deal with people saying America is the best nation in the world, and uh that she can't wait till whites are no longer the majority.
I mean she is a hater from the word go, and this empowers people.
