Sean Hannity Show - Tragedy in Orlando - 6.13

June 13, 2016 - Sean Hannity Show

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Tragedy in Orlando - 6.13

The sudden mass shooting in an Orlando nightclub has made headlines this weekend and as the FBI continues to search for more details on this tragedy. Sean sat down with Donald Trump to discuss this tragedy and his plans to confront radical Islamic terrorism. The Sean Hannity Show is live Monday through Friday from 3pm - 6pm ET. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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	All right, what a sad day this is.
	Our thoughts, our prayers, anything we can do for our friends in Orlando.
	We have been on our Orlando affiliate news 965 now for many, many years.
	I love the people of Orlando.
	They're amazing, amazing people.
	Any moment now, Donald Trump is going to call in moments ago.
	Um it's absolutely um it gave an probably the best speech of his life.
	Let me put it that way.
	But I want to we cannot forget the human toll.
	We have a lot to talk about today.
	Every indication we now have, and every indicator we had, this man responsible for the shooting of these innocent people was a radicalized Islamist.
	That's what we now know.
	He was on the FBI's radar for many, many years, ten specific months in a row for saying he was a member of Al Qaeda and Hezbollah.
	We had every indicator to keep our eyes on this guy, and we did not do it.
	It is imperative for this country for the people of San Bernardino and the people of at Fort Hood and the people now in Orlando.
	It is imperative for the safety and security of this country that we now do a better job identifying those people with radical views before they commit these horrific acts of terrorism and violence against innocent people.
	Now this also highlights a lot of what we have been debating in this presidential election year as it relates to safety and security of the American people.
	This is why the borders need to be secure.
	We get reports every day about people from the Middle East crossing over the Mexican border.
	We hear from border patrol agents all of the time.
	Do you know that as we speak today, there are over a thousand, uh over a thousand ongoing investigations in this country as it relates to radical Islamists in all fifty states.
	The FBI has nearly a thousand active ISIS probes inside the U.S. You know, I'll tell the story later in the program today, but you know, you have in early 2009 in November, there is this guy that worked for the Department of Homeland Security.
	His name is Haney and Philip Haney, and he told the story how superiors at DHS had him delete and modify several hundred records of people tied to designated Islamic terror groups from the important federal database.
	Now, this guy, if he would have been on the watch list or continue to be on the watch list, we would have he not would not have been able to get the guns that he used, but they took him off the list.
	And the question is, we have a right to know why.
	Why would he have taken why would he be taken off that list?
	It highlights the need for more security.
	It highlights the need for immigration reform in this country.
	Intelligence experts, they've got to start doing a better job.
	We can't be so politically correct anymore the way we we have been, to the point that, you know, imagine during World War II.
	We didn't identify Japan and Nazi Germany as our enemies because we didn't want to offend them.
	Or if Reagan was too timid to say, declare war on the evil empire of the Soviet Union.
	How can you win a war if you can't identify an enemy?
	Donald Trump just got off the podium giving a speech.
	He joins us now.
	Mr. Trump, thank you for being with us.
	I watched the whole speech.
	How are you?
	You gave a very powerful message.
	You didn't hold back.
	Uh please tell our audience, sum up for them the things you're saying.
	Well, very simply, we have to be strong.
	We have to be smart.
	We can't let people pour into our country and hate us to start off with, but they certainly hate our values and what we stand for, and we can't let that happen.
	So we have to be strong and we have to be smart.
	You know, you raised a couple of points.
	You said the killer, you're not going to mention his name, you never will, born to Afghan parents.
	There was a report out this weekend that 99% of immigrants from Afghanistan actually support Sharia law.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	And uh they want they support it when they come here too.
	Percentages not so much different than that.
	And how crazy are we to accept that?
	And Sharia law is brutal.
	And very much against women, very much against gays, very much against everybody.
	And we're supposed to be a country of laws, well, we have a different set of laws.
	So to allow people in that want to go with uh with Sharia law is disgraceful.
	You know, I brought up a lot of issues involving the Clinton Foundation.
	For example, the Saudi Arab Saudi Arabia has given over ten million to twenty-five million dollars to the Clinton Foundation.
	Brunei has also donated up to five million dollars, cut her five million dollars to the Clinton Foundation.
	Now, there was a report that came out.
	More than seventy-six countries have laws that criminalize or persecute gays and lesbians.
	Eight countries prescribe the death penalty if you're gay, including Saudi Arabia, Brunei, and parts of Nigeria.
	Now, Hillary Clinton has taken money from these countries for her foundation.
	It seems that they've been able to buy her silence.
	She claims to be a champion of LGBT rights and a champion of women's rights.
	Women can't drive there, women are told how to dress there, women can't go out in public without a male relative there.
	So how can she take all this money, not criticize their treatment of gays, lesbians and women, and then claim to be the champion of these people?
	Well, she's been taken.
	I heard minimum numbers like $25 million, but I think it's much more than that.
	And she should give all of that money back.
	If she wants to be true to herself, she has to give that money back.
	Absolutely.
	You know, Cutter e executes gays and lesbians.
	And yet the Clinton Foundation takes five million dollars from it.
	And frankly, she should give that money back.
	You actually said in your speech, ask yourself who is really the friend of women and the LGBT community.
	Donald Trump with actions or Hillary Clinton with words.
	Right.
	This exactly.
	This is going to be a big issue in the campaign.
	I think so.
	I think so.
	I think it's a very good issue, and I think it's true, and we'll see how that all comes out.
	But we're doing very well.
	It's been incredible.
	And I appreciate your support.
	You're so such an amazing guy, and I really do appreciate it.
	And I think we're gonna win.
	I think we're gonna have a big win in November.
	Last question, and I'll let you go.
	How important is what happened here tied to the debate in this country about refugees from Syria and the wall that you want to build.
	Um, how important is this issue tied to those two very big topics under which you've come under great fire?
	Well, it's a very similar issue, and frankly, the wall, you know, you think of the southern border, you don't think in terms of uh people coming in from Syria, but people coming in from Syria right through the southern border.
	It's a weak point to probably our weakest point.
	And so they're coming in from all over, and they're going through our southern border.
	So we're gonna have a wall.
	Mexico's gonna pay for the wall, just as sure as you're sitting or standing, wherever you may be.
	Uh, and it'll happen, Sean.
	Believe me, it'll happen, and it's something that we need, we have to have.
	And by the way, the Latinos, the Hispanics, they really agree with me on this.
	So you have no idea the people that are in our country legally, they agree with me a hundred percent.
	Are you planning on going to Orlando?
	Uh I may go.
	I've been asked to go.
	We're gonna see uh what happens.
	Uh you know, it's uh I I want to do it.
	It's from the heart I would do it, but I don't want to be accused of doing it for political reasons, and that'll be immediately that's uh what will be said, as you know.
	So I'm not sure.
	All right, Mr. Trump, I know you have to run.
	Uh thank you for joining us after your big speech today, 800 nine four-one Sean Artolfrey telephone number, Newt Gingrich will weigh in also as we uh continue today.
	There's so much in terms of what has not been talked about that needs to be talked about.
	New York Post is now reporting that when the Orlando shooter was just a high school kid in Florida and the World Trade Center was destroyed by terrorists, he cheered.
	This is reported by John Pet Horitz in the New York Post.
	Anyway, he goes on to say that you know, how is it that journalists are finding out all these incriminating details about the guy in less than twenty four hours?
	Yet the Obama Department of Homeland Security couldn't find out this stuff in a period of years.
	New York Post reports that as a teenager, anyway, as the guy that's responsible for what happened, he cheered the day the terrorists flew these jets into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon, as his former classmates are now recalling.
	Anyway, self-proclaimed Islamic State Devotee.
	This guy is a sophomore, anyway, when that happened, then you have all these reports of all these co-workers of his all going out there all saying the same thing that this guy claimed to be a member of Al Qaeda and associated and aligned with Al Qaeda in the Hezbollah.
	That resulted in a ten month investigation.
	He was on the terror watch list.
	Why wasn't that followed up more closely?
	Why did they come to the conclusion that there's no more, there's no reason going further to look into this guy?
	You know, I listened to the president and I listened to Hillary Clinton and their response to these gruesome, you know, awful terror attacks where all these people are murdered and slaughtered and shot and are fighting for their lives now.
	And what we saw from Obama is everything that you would expect.
	It's the same thing since the very first day that this man has taken office.
	He has an incapability.
	It is mind numbing to acknowledge that something called radical Islamic terrorism exists, and it is a clear and present danger to every man, woman, and child in the free world.
	It's everything you would think of.
	He said in a statement Sunday, he described the rampage as an act of terror and an act of hate.
	What is missing, of course, is the word Islamic terrorism or radical Islamic terrorism.
	And it seems, you know, it's almost inherently and ideologically he is incapable of making a connection between terrorism and Islam.
	You know, now and then when you really push him, he'll edge up to the line, but he, you know, reluctantly, never with conviction, and always quick to protect Islam, but he'll talk about the terrible deeds done in the name of Christ, even when it requires invoking the Christian crusades from a, you know, however long ago.
	The president this morning actually used the phrase, you know, radical organizations, but that's one that believes in nothing.
	These radicals, we know who they are.
	We've been talking about this forever.
	ISIS, al-Qaeda, radical jihadists, believe in something.
	They believe that they're doing Allah's work.
	They believe they'll be rewarded with seventy-two virgins in heaven.
	They believe it with their heart, mind, and soul.
	You know, there are there are instances we see happening today.
	You know, remember, this is a guy that said workplace violence.
	This is a White House that said overseas contingency operations.
	This is a group of people that refer to Islamic terrorism as man caused disasters.
	This is what Hillary and Obama and the Democrats have suggested in years.
	And when Donald Trump had the courage to point out that our national director of intelligence, our FBI director, our assistant FBI director, our chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, uh Obama's special envoy to defeat ISIS, when he called for a temporary ban on immigration, he was viciously unfairly called a racist.
	He was listening to our top intelligence officials just telling us that ISIS has plans to infiltrate the refugee population like they did in Paris and like they did in Belgium for crying out loud out loud.
	And ISIS itself has said they have this plan for America.
	We've seen this scenario played out in Belgium, in Paris, refugees killing innocent people after they infiltrate the population.
	You know, this cannot happen anymore.
	This is a war that is being waged against this country.
	We've got to listen at least to our top security and intelligence officials.
	You've got to stop being so nauseatingly politically correct and timid to the point we can't even mention our enemies by name.
	They laugh at this country.
	They laugh at Obama.
	They see this as pure weakness on America's part.
	And unless we are fully able to ensure The safety and security of people coming to the United States, that means Syrian refugees, and vet these refugees, which our intelligence community is telling us they cannot do.
	Why is Obama thrusting them upon us?
	He's bringing potential ISIS terrorists into the country who plan on killing more people, just like what we saw over the weekend.
	And to be more direct, the president, supported by Hillary, supported by the Democrats.
	They are willing to gamble with your life.
	In other words, all in the name of political correctness.
	They're not acting in your best national security interest.
	You know, they're creating a scenario where it's pretty much a guarantee that more shootings like Orlando are going to happen here.
	This is a key pivotal moment in this country.
	Are you going to allow politicians to put your lives at risk rather than look out for the broader national security threat that we are facing and the safety and security of the people of this country?
	You know, are we now going to demand that they secure our borders?
	Are we now going to listen to border agents saying, oh, we see more Middle Eastern refugees than ever before?
	Are we now willing to identify radical Islamists for who they are and have a determination to defeat them until they're all gone.
	It's time to increase intelligence gathering.
	It's time to secure the borders.
	It's time to identify and engage these people and bomb them into, you know, whatever paradise they think they're going to.
	You cannot allow these politicians to gamble with your life.
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	Hillary Clinton can never claim to be a friend of the gay community as long as she continues to support immigration policies that bring Islamic extremists to our country and who suppress women, gays, and anyone else who doesn't share their views or values.
	Yet Hillary Clinton, for months, and despite so many attacks, repeatedly refused to even say the words radical Islam until I challenged her yesterday.
	And guess what?
	She will probably say them.
	She sort of has said them, but let's see what happens.
	She really has no choice, but she doesn't want.
	However, she's really been forced, and she has been forced to say these words.
	She supports, and the reason is she supports so much of what is wrong and what is wrong with this country and what's going wrong with our country and our borders.
	She has no clue, in my opinion, what radical Islam is, and she won't speak honestly about it if she does, in fact, know.
	She's in total denial, and her continuing reluctance to ever name the enemy broadcasts weakness across the entire world.
	True weakness.
	When it comes to radical Islamic terrorism, ignorance is not bliss.
	It's deadly, totally deadly.
	The Obama administration, with the support of Hillary Clinton and others, has also damaged Our security by restraining our intelligence gathering, and we have just no intelligence gathering information.
	We need this information so badly, and he stopped it.
	We don't have the support.
	We don't have the support of the law enforcement system because Obama is not letting them do their job.
	They are not being allowed to do their job.
	And they can do it well better than anybody.
	We need a new leader.
	We need a new leader fast.
	Hillary Clinton explains her refusal to say the words radical Islam.
	Here is what she said, exact quote.
	Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism.
	That is Hillary Clinton.
	So she says the solution is to ban guns.
	They tried that in France, which is among the toughest gun laws anywhere in the world, and 130 people were brutally murdered by Islamic terrorists in cold blood.
	Her plan is to disarm law-abiding Americans, abolishing the second amendment, and leaving only the bad guys and terrorists with guns.
	No good.
	Not gonna happen, folks.
	Not gonna happen.
	Not gonna happen.
	She wants to be a good one.
	You know, on the gun part, here's a question you should ask yourself.
	And later in the program, we'll talk to New King, which will also talk to Jennifer Thalasinos.
	She lost her husband Nicholas in the San Bernardino shooting.
	If you're in a situation like what happened at this nightclub in Orlando, if you are at a community center like those people in San Bernardino.
	Now I've carried, I've had a license to carry permit in New York, Rhode Island, California, Alabama, and Georgia.
	My entire adult life I have carried a weapon.
	I have been trained, I was a marksman at eleven or twelve years old, and have been trained in the use of a firearm since I'm little.
	I know firearm safety, I teach it to my family, and I shoot on a regular basis to keep my skill level up, in spite of the fact that I can't shoot that much because my ears are shot.
	Anyway, um I don't know.
	Mark Allen, by the way.
	I I can't I can't read this as I'm doing the show here, Linda.
	Mark, oh my gosh, so somebody's on the line.
	Mark Allen, his son died on Saturday night.
	Your son died in Orlando, sir.
	That's correct, Sean.
	My name is actually Mark Allen Bando, B A N D O. I'm a retired Detroit police officer.
	I worked uh the department for 25 years, 1974 to 99.
	And uh I was on the Detroit police pistol team.
	I'll tell you what, if I had been there the other night, the story would have been different if I have a CPL.
	I always carry a gun.
	When I saw that massacre in Paris last year, I said, geez, that couldn't happen.
	There'd be at least two or three people that were armed.
	But sadly, that's not what happened.
	I had just one person there.
	They had one off-duty police officer.
	A lot of lives would have been saved, no doubt.
	Your son was shot, and your son was killed Saturday night.
	That's correct.
	Uh his mom.
	Well, they live in Florida.
	I live in Michigan, but his mom talked to him on the phone that evening before he went to the club, so she knew he was going.
	And she woke up Sunday morning and heard they're going to massacre there, and she went over there, and she hadn't heard from him, so she feared the worst.
	And just today they finally told us, you know, confirmed that he was one of the victims who was killed at the scene.
	He never even made it to the hospital.
	So I am so I know I speak for everybody in this audience, and really we we address this to you and your family and your your wife, and I don't know.
	I mean, it is so sad and so preventable.
	And you hear the news as as we've been presenting it here today, and you hear the news, the FBI had this guy under watch for two years they were looking at this guy.
	One has to wonder why they took him off the watch list, the guy that claimed allegiance to Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah, a guy that obviously, you know, at a workplace made these ridiculous claims.
	I and I I I'm not blaming, I'm sure law enforcement resources are scarce.
	But we've got a thousand ongoing ISIS investigations now going on in the country.
	I I I would argue that if our government would do a better job, we can prevent this senseless death.
	That's true.
	There's so many legal impediments, though there is a simpler solution, and Donald Trump has said many times.
	If you have somebody shooting back, the game's over right now.
	All you need is one guy in it.
	See, I I think in that nightclub the other night when the shooting started, there wasn't one person in there that wouldn't have traded everything he owned in the world just to have a loaded gun.
	But you these people don't realize it until they're in the situation.
	It's far too late then.
	And that's the point I was making.
	I was saying if if you you're in the San Bernardino or Orlando situation where your son died on Saturday night senselessly, evil Islamic terrorism.
	And you know, if I I I've carried a weapon my whole life, sir.
	I've carried one and I, you know, I carry it everywhere.
	I I went to the Yankee game on Saturday night.
	I could you can't bring it into the stadium, but I left it in my car.
	You know, and you know, I I just I don't understand a mindset that goes to blame guns, but this now here's the think about this.
	This guy called the cops, you know, there were three contacts with nine one one, pledged his allegiance to ISIS, and that he was carrying out this mass murder, including your son.
	Twelve hours after he said he pledges allegiance to ISIS, the president of the United States of America said we have no definitive assessment on the motivation.
	And we know that he was a person filled with hate.
	Well, anytime there's any mass shooting in this country, the Democrats always spin it that they want to push more gun control and disarm legitimate citizens that need to defend themselves in this country.
	How old was your son?
	My son was a Gemini, and he was he just celebrated his thirty second birthday on June first, and he was a very gentle person.
	He had a master's degree, he was a psychologist in Orlando, Florida.
	He was gay, which is something that I didn't know until about five years ago.
	But uh anyways, he he was one of those who wanted to believe that people were good and there were no evil people in the world, and he used to joke and ridicule and laugh at me for being paranoid when he saw me putting a gun on off duty.
	This is when he was growing up.
	And then on September 11th, he called me from Florida and he said, What's going on with these planes sitting in the buildings?
	He reassessed his whole view of the human race a little bit at that time, but he lived down there and I lived up here, and I never got chance to teach him how to handle firearms.
	I think if we'd have lived in closer proximity, he would have become proficient.
	He would have probably got a CPL and carried a gun, and that might have made a difference the other night.
	You do you can't second guess things like this.
	You love your son, and your son should be alive today.
	And that's the sad tragedy of all of this.
	Um even one person in that club had been armed.
	Yep.
	It could have been a different story, unless the shooter took out the one armed person as his first victim or something, but there's no way to know who it is.
	Listen, this guy, just like in San Bernardino was reloading, too.
	But well, Mr. Bando, God bless you.
	I can't imagine your pain today.
	If you'll stay on the line, I want to I want to send your family something if you don't mind to stay right there.
	I appreciate you calling in and telling us about your son.
	I'm so sorry, and I know I speak for this whole audience.
	Thank you.
	Thanks for the opportunity, Sean.
	I just wanted to put that out there when the when the victims shoot back, game over.
	A hundred percent.
	Okay was the question I was getting to.
	And that is thank you for the call, sir.
	I appreciate it.
	That's a question.
	If you if you're in a situation, do you want somebody armed or not?
	My answer is yes.
	You know, there's this whole thing.
	I have said, Linda, how many times have I said on this program, you know, all right, gay and lesbian groups disagree with Sean Hannity because he doesn't want to change the definition of marriage.
	But I've said many times, I don't care what people do in their privacy.
	It's none of my business.
	It is zero.
	I have zero business knowing what people want to do privately.
	It's none of my business.
	And I think most Americans feel that way.
	But I But I'm watching these countries under Sharia.
	And this is a point, a political point I want to make.
	You know, you got countries like Saudi Arabia, Brunei, Qatar.
	Let's see, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia gave the Clinton Foundation twenty five million dollars.
	The government of Brunei donated five million to the Clinton Foundation.
	Cutter donated five million to the Clinton Foundation.
	Okay.
	Well, in June of 2015, the Office of the UN High Commissioner on Human Rights issued a report entitled Discrimination and Violence Against Individuals Based on their sexual orientation and gender identity.
	They found, according to the report, more than 76 countries have laws that criminalize and persecute people that are gay.
	Eight countries give the death penalty if you're gay.
	Including, let's see, Saudi Arabia that gave the Clinton Foundation 25 million, Brunei that gave the Clinton Foundation five million, and parts of Nigeria.
	Cutter, by the way, another country, is in a league of its own when it comes to violating civil rights of gays and lesbians.
	Qatar is uh one of only ten nations in the world that allow the execution of people that are gay.
	While such a sentence is technically reserved for Muslims, homosexuality is punished punishable by up to seven years in prison for anyone living or visiting Qatar in the Washington Post.
	And I can keep going from there.
	Okay, so if you're in the gay and lesbian community and you disagree with me politically that on gay marriage, Sean Hannity has been warning people for years that this is what is happening in these countries that practice sharia.
	I've been talking at length about a conflict of cultures that countries under Sharia.
	And if you want to come from any of these countries, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Brunei, and you want to come to the United States of America, are you coming here with your full belief in Sharia?
	Are you coming here believing that men have the right to tell women how to dress?
	Are you believing that you have the right to stone gays and lesbians to death?
	You're coming here with the belief you can throw them off roofs and kill them?
	Are you coming here with the belief that women can't drive a car?
	Are you coming here with the belief that women can't go to school or work without a man's permission?
	Are you coming here with the belief that a woman needs four male eyewitnesses to prove rape?
	Are you coming here with the belief that women that commit adultery get stoned to death?
	Are you coming here with the belief that you want to change America like Great Britain is now has eighty-eight Sharia separate courts?
	You know, and then for somebody to dare say, oh, it's about the belief system.
	Well, how do I know if somebody is coming from a country that practices Sharia?
	How do we have any way to ascertain whether or not they are bringing their beliefs with them in the hopes of proselytizing and advancing this this what we believe is the cultural dark ages in America?
	How do we ascertain that?
	Goes to the heart of the whole Syrian refugee population issue.
	Obama's insisting on bringing them here.
	Hillary's insisting on bringing them here.
	ISIS has said they'll infiltrate.
	Our intelligence community has said they'll infiltrate.
	Okay, why are they willing to gamble with your life?
	I don't understand this.
	Gayway pundit is reporting that there's a gay rights group, LGBT in Phoenix, uh, that has now endorsed Donald Trump because of the Orlando massacre.
	They tweeted out the following message today.
	We want you to know after this horrific attack, we're officially endorsing Trump.
	Enough's enough.
	If you're in the gay and lesbian community, your champion in the last, you know, ten years on the air has been me.
	Because Hillary's been too busy taking money from these countries that treat gays and lesbians horribly, treat women horribly, and yet she claims to be the champion of LGBT and women's rights.
	She takes money, they bought her silence.
	She doesn't ever criticize them because she wanted the money more.
	Wake up.
	People are dying.
	And we have every right as a contr as a country and every duty as a country to protect our way of life.
	And if that means that we don't take people from countries where there's this massive cultural divide, whose values are the antithesis of our constitutional values, our republic, then we have the right to say, don't come here.
	And you can't convince me that you have a way of vetting 10,000 or 100,000 Syrian refugees because they tried that in Belgium and they tried that in Paris and they failed miserably.
	And people died.
	One of the biggest challenges we are going to have is this kind of propaganda and perversions of Islam that you see generated on the internet and the capacity for that to seep into the minds of troubled individuals or weak individuals,
	and seeing them motivated then to take actions against people here in the United States and elsewhere in the world that are tragic.
	And so countering this extremist ideology is increasingly going to be just as important as making sure that we are disrupting more expensive spots engineered from the outside.
	All right, the president still not understanding and still having a difficult time talking about radical Islamic terrorism.
	Why?
	I don't know.
	After this guy literally called the clock cops and and he had three conversations, as we now know from the FBI director Comey, and pledged his uh loyalty to ISIS after he was carrying out this mass terrorist attack in Orlando, twelve hours after he pledged allegiance to ISIS.
	Well, there was the president declaring that we have no definitive assessment on the motivation.
	We know he's a person filled with hate.
	Joining us now is former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, who called this what it is an act of war, and that President Obama cannot accept reality.
	Why is there this mysterious reluctance, resistance?
	It's almost pathological that they cannot identify radical Islamic terrorism, man caused disasters, overseas contingencies, workplace violence.
	This is gone this game has gone on now for eight years, and it's not a game.
	No, you know, I'm beginning to think that there's a remarkable parallel between Neville Chamberlain's inability and unwillingness to come to grips with Hitler and Obama's unwillingness and inability to come to grips with Islamic supremacist.
	And in both cases, I mean, I think that the answer in the end is that if you really believe the enemy is this bad, the consequence in terms of policies you have to adopt is so dramatic that you do almost anything to avoid confronting the reality.
	And so what you end up with are people who um twist and turn and try to look for every angle, uh, try to find some way to justify it.
	In addition, I think we've had a half century of liberals teaching us that you shouldn't discriminate, you shouldn't render judgment, uh you you know, you shouldn't be an American nationalist.
	Uh and so it's very hard for them to condemn a group, any group for any reason unless they're they're conservative Christians or Republicans.
	Uh, and the result is that they just cannot come to grips with reality.
	But that's a scary thought if if you're saying that the leader of the free world or the person that's running to replace now the leader of the free world has this disconnect from reality here.
	I mean, let's let's go back.
	For example I think the issue now of Syrian refugee, uh Syrian refugees coming into the country, Obama and Hillary Clinton have both said it's bigoted that we don't take them in, but yet we've heard from James Clapper, our National Director of Intelligence, James Comey,
	our FBI director, Michael Steinbeck, our assistant FBI director, Mike McCall, the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, General John Allen, Obama's former special envoy to defeat ISIS, have all stated that and ISIS has stated as well that their plan for America is to infiltrate that population.
	Now that tells me that the president, that Democrats, that Hillary Clinton are willing to gamble with the lives of Americans to appease I don't know, some rationale of political correctness that they buy into.
	Why would you risk one American life in light of Belgium and Paris, for example?
	Well, I and look, I I agree with you, and I think the reason is they're gonna have to give up some of their most deeply held ideological biases if they're gonna actually take on this kind of a threat and and deal with it effectively.
	And uh they desperately want to avoid doing that.
	I mean that that's the long and the short of it.
	Um the fact is that uh in order to take on the kind of enemies we now have, and and let me say for example, when people say this was a hate crime, they're exactly right.
	Uh the people who are Islamic supremacists hate us.
	They hate all of us.
	It wasn't just a hate crime against lesbians and gays.
	It's a hate crime against Christians, it's a hate crime against Jews, it's a hate crime against Baha'i.
	Frankly, it's a hate crime against moderate Muslims.
	We tend to forget these these folks kill more Muslims than any other single group.
	Uh, and they're all hate crimes because they hate us.
	Now, what once you understand that and get over it, now now you're not into a psychological problem.
	Oh, gee, why do they hate us?
	They hate us because it's who they are.
	They hate us because it's what they believe, and they're gonna live it out if they can, and when they do live it out, boom.
	Uh, terrible circumstances.
	The FBI had him on a watch list for some ten months.
	This is a kid that in high school cheered after the nine eleven uh uh attacks happened.
	This is a a guy that at work pledged his support for Al Qaeda and Hezbollah.
	This is a guy that actually, you know, told the FBI that he wanted to be a martyr.
	And yet he was taken off the watch list.
	They didn't follow through on this guy.
	I I mean, I I'm I'm trying to understand the rationale here.
	I listen, I have great respect for law enforcement, Mr. Speaker, but to me, if I know there are one thousand ongoing investigations into ISIS in the United States right now, over a thousand in all fifty states.
	But if we identify somebody that wants to be a martyr, I what should we do with them?
	Right.
	And I think the I believe, first of all, we're gonna have to have more FBI agents, uh, and and probably more police intelligence folks around the country.
	Second, uh you have to recognize how much uh the Obama administration and to a lesser degree the Bush administration bent over backwards to appease uh the various Muslim groups, uh, so that you know the agents don't want to appear to be Islamophobic.
	And so they're gonna give every benefit of the doubt to somebody who shows up and kills 49 people and wounds another 53 or 54.
	Uh and you'll notice the company didn't want to fire him because they didn't want to seem to be anti-Muslim.
	The U.S. government issued a report a couple of years ago, Andy McCarthy sent it to me today, that basically said any business which seems to be anti-Muslim, we're gonna file a lawsuit against.
	Uh so you end up with people in San Bernardino who say, Yeah, I saw bombs and I saw guns, but you know, I didn't want people to think I was anti-Muslim.
	Well, we have now been so over pre lectured that we're allowing killers in our midst because we've been told to be timid, and I think part of what's gonna come out of Orlando coming on top of San Bernardino, coming on top of Boston, coming on top of Chattanooga, coming on top of Fort Hood, is people are gonna start saying no.
	Empower the FBI, uh, when in doubt, if they're not an American citizen, kick them out.
	If they are an American citizen, put them under continuing surveillance.
	If they do anything that looks threatening, uh, you know, this is a guy who the day he walked in to buy a gun, the FBI should have picked him up.
	And and it's an again, I don't know.
	But he was taken off the but they had taken him off the watch list.
	Which is great.
	And and and he also he had two separate licenses.
	He had a carry license, and he actually I know the rules Down in Florida to be a security guard, he went through forty hours of training and he had to prove himself on a range.
	And he still had which is a a higher level of a gun permit, if you will.
	And then if any store were to deny him the ability to buy a gun, well then that person would probably likely be sued, right?
	Right.
	Now that's why we're gonna have to change some rules pretty dramatically.
	I believe that no one who believes in Sharia should be admitted to the United States except under very controlled circumstances.
	But we can't ascertain what's in somebody's heart, and I just went through this.
	There is a cultural divide.
	If you grow up in a country, such as Saudi Arabia, Brunei, Cutter, I mean we can go through a list of countries.
	There are seventy-six countries that have laws that criminalize and persecute and eight countries that give the death penalty to to gays and lesbians, for example.
	But if you grow up under Sharia and you think men have the right to tell women what to wear, they have a right to tell women they can't drive or vote, they have a right to say you can go to school or not go to school, the men decide.
	If you need four male eye witnesses for rape, and you're coming from that country, how do we determine whether or not you're coming here because you want the freedom that your country doesn't offer, or you're coming here to proselytize and then and bring your faith with you and bring your thought processes with you that are so contradictory to our constitutional republic?
	What do you do when there's a conflict?
	How do you ascertain what somebody's motive is?
	I don't think you can.
	Well, I think look, I think first of all, you can ask a fair number of questions.
	You can look at their background.
	I mean, when this guy went to Saudi Arabia twice in the last couple of years, uh there's reasonable grounds to sort of raise the flag and take a look at it.
	Um, you know, and somebody said to me, Well, the Christians go to go to Rome.
	And I said, Yeah, my answers they very seldom come back and kill people.
	I mean, we've now had the the San Bernardino killer was clearly radicalized in Saudi Arabia.
	I suspect we're gonna find out that this guy was uh significantly radicalized, may already have been radicalized here, but significantly accelerated in Saudi Arabia.
	Uh and and and by the way, I believe if you're an American citizen and you pledge allegiance to ISIL uh or to uh Sharia, uh, you're gonna end up losing your citizenship.
	I think we're we will have no choice.
	Let me ask this is a political question now.
	Now, Saudi Arabia donated twenty-five million dollars to the Clinton Foundation.
	The government of Brunei donated about five million.
	Cutter, about five million.
	Now there was a report by the Office of the UN High Commission for Human Rights, and it was called Discrimination and Violence Against Individuals Based on Sexual Orientation or Gender.
	And what they found is that, for example, Saudi Arabia, if you look at their background, um they have an Cutter, for example, is in a league of its own when a you know they are one of ten nations that allowed the execution of gay people.
	But Hillary took the money.
	Hillary took the money from Saudi Arabia, and it's a crime to be gay in Saudi Arabia.
	Um same thing with Nigeria, same thing with Brunei.
	All these countries that gave the Clinton Foundation money.
	Now, she claims to be a champion of women's rights and gay and lesbian rights.
	She takes the money from these countries.
	I can't find on the record any criticism of any of these countries that paid millions to the Clintons of their atrocious human rights record.
	Did they buy her silence?
	Well, I think the the influence of the Saudis in particular, and the sheer scale of oil money they've had over the last 40 years, uh permeates Washington.
	I mean, nobody should kid themselves.
	They permeate many of our universities.
	One of the things we should be requiring is the universities indicate where they get their donations from, including indirect.
	So if the Saudis give money to some supposed American foundation, which promptly gives the money to a university, That should be traced all the way back to the Saudis.
	But I think we would be startled how much uh money has come into the U.S. from these kind of organizations brainwashing us.
	Well, I think it's that, and it's also based on America's stupidity not to achieve energy independence, isn't it?
	I mean, three issues are at play here in terms of the Trump agenda versus the Hillary agenda.
	Number one, Syrian refugees, he supports safe zones That we would help support people with food and blankets and water and medicine and supplies, but it's where they live and military assistance.
	You know, Hillary wants them and is insisting we bring them here, or we're bigoted, just like the president is saying that.
	The second issue is we have more and more border patrol agents saying that Middle Eastern people are crossing the border.
	And this this other issue that we're talking about here.
	Why are we, you know, why are we not energy independent and tell the Saudis to keep their money and shove it?
	Well, and look, I'm I think you're exactly right.
	And I think that we have an obligation.
	That's part of what campaigns are about is having the discussion and and and bringing to the forefront uh what people need to understand about the choices we're going to live out as a country.
	And I think that it's a uh an enormous problem for the United States right now.
	And we need to confront how big a problem it is.
	And I think that uh the only way to deal with that is to have a straight-up debate.
	You know, Obama and Clinton have represented one view.
	I d I do note that under extraordinary pressure in the last twenty-four hours, she's begun to crumble a little bit.
	Uh it's not real, like everything else she, you know, she once said refused to say.
	I actually have the tapes of it.
	Refuse to acknowledge radical Islam.
	What did you think of Trump's speech?
	I gotta I gotta run in.
	Are you gonna be on TV today?
	What do you think of Trump's speech today?
	I thought it was extraordinary, and I think it sets a benchmark on national security that people are going to really draw a sharp contrast with Clinton and Obama.
	I tend to agree with you.
	All right, former Speaker of the House.
	Potential vice presidential candidate.
	Give me that.
	Talk to you later.
	You know, I never had a guest just give me so much crap as he does.
	But just I'm asking simple questions, and he gets on that one in particular.
	One of the biggest challenges we are going to have is this kind of uh propaganda and perversions uh of Islam that you see uh generated on the internet uh and the capacity for that to uh seep into the minds of uh troubled individuals or weak individuals,
	and uh seeing them motivated them to take actions against uh people here in the United States and elsewhere in the world uh that are tragic.
	And so countering this extremist ideology is increasingly gonna be uh just as important as making sure that uh we are disrupting uh more expensive spots uh engineered from the outside.
	All right, the president still not understanding and still having a difficult time talking about radical Islamic terrorism, why I don't know uh after this guy literally called the clock cops and and he had three conversations as we now know from the FBI director Comey and pledged his uh loyalty to ISIS after he was carrying out this mass terrorist attack in Orlando, twelve hours after he pledged allegiance to ISIS.
	Well, there was the president declaring that we have no definitive assessment on the motivation.
	We know he's a person filled with hate.
	Joining us now is former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, who called this what it is an act of war, and that President Obama cannot accept reality.
	Why is there this mysterious reluctance, resistance?
	It's almost pathological that they cannot identify radical Islamic terrorism, man-caused disasters, overseas contingencies, workplace violence.
	This is gone this game has gone on now for eight years, and it's not a game.
	No, you know, I begin to think that there's a remarkable parallel between Neville Chamberlain's inability and unwillingness to come to grips with Hitler and Obama's unwillingness and inability to come to grips with uh Islamic supremacist.
	And in both cases, I mean, I think uh that the answer in the end is that if you really believe the enemy is this bad, the consequence in terms of policies you have to adopt is so dramatic that you do almost anything to avoid confronting the reality.
	And so what you end up with are people who um twist and turn and try to look for every angle, uh, try to find some way to to justify it.
	In addition, I think uh we've had a half century of liberals teaching us that you shouldn't discriminate, you shouldn't render judgment, uh you you know, you shouldn't be an American nationalist.
	Uh and so it's very hard for them to condemn a group, any group for any reason unless they're they're conservative Christians or Republicans.
	Uh, and the result is that they just cannot come to grips with reality.
	But that's a scary thought if you're saying that the leader of the free world or the person that's running to replace now the leader of the free world has this I disconnect from reality here.
	I mean, let's let's go back.
	For ex I think the issue now of Syrian refugee, uh Syrian refugees coming into the country, Obama and Hillary Clinton have both said it's bigoted that we don't take them in.
	But yet we've heard from James Clapper, our National Director of Intelligence, James Comey, our FBI director, Michael Steinbeck, our assistant FBI director, Mike McCall, the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, General John Allen, Obama's former special envoy to defeat ISIS, have all stated that and ISIS has stated as well, that their plan for America is to infiltrate that population.
	Now, that tells me that the president, that Democrats, that Hillary Clinton are willing to gamble with the lives of Americans to appease I don't know, some rationale of political correctness that they buy into.
	Why would you risk one American life in light of Belgium and Paris, for example?
	Well, I look I I agree with you, and I think the reason is they're gonna have to give up some of their most deeply held ideological biases if they're gonna actually take on this kind of a threat and deal with it effectively, and uh they desperately want to avoid doing that.
	That's the long and the short of it.
	Um the fact is that uh in order to take on the kind of enemies we now have, and let me say for example, when people say this was a hate crime, they're exactly right.
	Uh the people who are Islamic supremacists hate us.
	They hate all of us.
	It wasn't just a hate crime against lesbians and gays.
	It's a hate crime against Christians, it's a hate crime against Jews, it's a hate crime against Baha'i.
	Frankly, it's a hate crime against moderate Muslims.
	We tend to forget these these folks kill more Muslims than any other single group.
	Uh and they're all hate crimes because they hate us.
	Now, what once you understand that and get over it, now you're not into a psychological problem.
	Oh, geez, why do they hate us?
	They hate us because it's who they are.
	They hate us because it's what they believe.
	And they're gonna live it out if they can, and when they do live it out, boom.
	Uh, terrible circumstances.
	The FBI had him on a watch list for some ten months.
	This is a kid that in high school cheered after the nine-eleven uh uh attacks happened.
	This is uh a guy that at work pledged his support for Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah.
	This is a guy that actually, you know, told the FBI that he wanted to be a martyr.
	And yet he was taken off the watch list.
	They didn't follow through on this guy.
	I I mean, I I'm I'm trying to understand the rationale here.
	I listen, I have great respect for law enforcement, Mr. Speaker, but to me, if I know there were one thousand ongoing investigations into ISIS in the United States right now, over a thousand in all fifty states.
	But if we identify somebody that wants to be a martyr, I what should we do with them?
	Right.
	And I think the I believe, first of all, we're gonna have to have more FBI agents uh and and probably more police intelligence folks around the country.
	Second, uh you have to recognize how much uh the Obama administration and to a lesser degree the Bush administration bent over backwards to appease uh the various Muslim groups uh so that you know the agents don't want to appear to be Islamophobic.
	And so they're gonna give every benefit of the doubt to somebody who shows up and kills 49 people and wounds another 53 or 54.
	Uh and you'll notice the company didn't want to fire him because they didn't want to seem to be anti-Muslim.
	The U.S. government issued a report a couple years ago, Andy McCarthy sent it to me today, that basically said, any business which seems to be anti-Muslim, we're gonna file a lawsuit against.
	Uh so you end up with people in San Bernardino who say, Yeah, I saw bombs and I saw guns, but you know, I didn't want people to think I was anti-Muslim.
	Well, we have now been so over pre lectured that we're allowing killers in our midst because we've been told to be timid.
	And I think part of what's going to come out of Orlando coming on top of San Bernardino, coming on top of Boston, coming on top of Chattanooga, coming on top of Fort Hood, is people are going to start saying no.
	Empower the FBI, uh, when in doubt, if they're not an American citizen, kick them out.
	If they are an American citizen, put them under continuing surveillance.
	If they do anything that looks threatening, uh, you know, this is a guy who the day he walked in to buy a gun, the FBI should have picked him up.
	And and it's an again, I think.
	But he was watching.
	But he was taken off the but they had taken him off the watch list.
	Which is great.
	And and and he also he had two separate licenses.
	He had a carry license, and he actually I know the rules down in Florida to be a security guard, he went through forty hours of training, and he had to prove himself on a range.
	And he still had which is a a higher level of a gun permit, if you will.
	And then if any store were to deny him the ability to buy a gun, well then that person would probably likely be sued, right?
	Right.
	Now that's why we're gonna have to change some rules pretty dramatically.
	I believe that no one who believes in Sharia should be admitted to the United States except under very controlled circumstances.
	But we can't ascertain what's in somebody's heart, and I just went through this.
	There is a cultural divide.
	If you grow up in a country, such as Saudi Arabia, Brunei, Cutter, I mean, we can go through a list of countries.
	There are seventy-six countries that have laws that criminalize and persecute and eight countries that give the death penalty to to gays and lesbians, for example.
	But if you grow up under Sharia and you think men have the right to tell women what to wear, they have a right to tell women they can't drive or vote, they have a right to say you can go to school or not go to school, the men decide.
	If you need four male eye witnesses for rape, and you're coming from that country, how do we determine whether or not you're coming here because you want the freedom that your country doesn't offer, or you're coming here to proselytize and then and bring your faith with you and bring your thought processes with you that are so contradictory to our constitutional republic?
	What do you do when there's a conflict?
	How do you ascertain what somebody's motive is?
	I don't think you can.
	Well, I think look, I think first of all, you can ask a fair number of questions.
	You can look at their background.
	I mean, when this guy went to Saudi Arabia twice in the last couple of years, uh there's reasonable grounds to sort of raise the flag and take a look at it.
	Um, you know, and somebody said to me, Well, the Christians go to go to Rome, and I said, Yeah, my answers, they very seldom come back and kill people.
	I mean, we've now had the the San Bernardino killer was clearly radicalized in Saudi Arabia.
	I suspect we're gonna find out that this guy was uh significantly radicalized, may already have been radicalized here, but was significantly accelerated in Saudi Arabia.
	Uh and and and by the way, I believe if you're an American citizen and you pledge allegiance to ISIL uh or to uh Sharia, uh you're gonna end up losing your citizenship.
	I think we're we will have no choice.
	Let me ask this is a political question now.
	Now, Saudi Arabia donated twenty-five million dollars to the Clinton Foundation.
	The government of Brunei donated about five million.
	Cutter, about five million.
	Now there was a report by the office of the UN High Commission for Human Rights, and it was called Discrimination and Violence Against Individuals Based on Sexual Orientation or Gender.
	And what they found is that, for example, Saudi Arabia, if you look at their background, um they have an Cutter, for example, is in a league of its own when a you know, they are one of ten nations that allow the execution of gay people.
	But Hillary took the money.
	Hillary took the money from Saudi Arabia, and it's a crime to be gay in Saudi Arabia.
	Um same thing with Nigeria, same thing with Brunei, all these countries that gave the Clinton Foundation money.
	Now, she claims to be a champion of women's rights and gay and lesbian rights.
	She takes the money from these countries.
	I can't find on the record any criticism of any of these countries that paid millions to the Clintons of of their atrocious human rights record.
	Did they buy her silence?
	Well, I think the the influence of the Saudis in particular and the sheer scale of oil money they've had over the last 40 years uh permeates Washington.
	I mean, nobody should kid themselves.
	They permeate many of our universities.
	Is the universities indicate where they get their donations from, including indirect.
	So you know, so if the Saudis give money to some supposed American foundation, which promptly gives the money to university, that should be traced all the way back to the Saudis.
	But I think we would be startled how much uh money has come into the U.S. from these kind of organizations.
	Well, this has to be brainwashing us.
	Well, I think it's that, and it's also based on America's stupidity not to achieve energy independence, isn't it?
	I mean, three issues are at play here in terms of the Trump agenda versus the Hillary agenda.
	Number one, Syrian refugees, he supports safe zones that we would help support people with food and blankets and water and medicine and supplies, but it's where they live and military assistance.
	You know, Hillary wants them and is insisting we bring them here, or we're bigoted, just like the president is saying that.
	The second issue is we have more and more border patrol agents saying that Middle Eastern people are crossing the border.
	And this this other issue that we're talking about here.
	Why are we, you know, why are we not energy independent and tell the Saudis to keep their money and shove it?
	Well, and look, I'm I think you're exactly right.
	And I think that we have an obligation.
	That's part of what campaigns are about is having the discussion and and and bringing to the forefront uh what people need to understand about the choices we're gonna live out as a country.
	And I think that it's a uh an enormous problem for the United States right now, and and we need to confront how big a problem it is.
	And I think that uh the only way to deal with that is to have a straight-up debate.
	You know, Obama and Clinton have represented one view.
	I do I do note that under extraordinary pressure in the last 24 hours, she's begun to crumble a little bit.
	Uh it's not real, like everything else she, you know, she once said refused to say.
	I actually have the tapes of it.
	Refuse to acknowledge radical Islam.
	What did you think of Trump's speech?
	I gotta I gotta run it.
	Are you gonna be on TV tonight?
	What do you think of Trump's speech today?
	I thought it was extraordinary, and I think it sets a benchmark on national security that people are gonna really draw a sharp contrast with Clinton and Obama.
	I tend to agree with you.
	All right, former Speaker of the House.
	Potential vice presidential candidate.
	Give me that.
	Talk to you later.
	You know, I never had a guest just give me so much crap as he does.
	But just I'm asking simple questions, and he gets on that one in particular.
	All right, 25 now till the top of the hour.
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	You know what I'm most scared about?
	And I've said this many times before, the FBI has over a thousand active probes involving ISIS in the inside of the United States now.
	Over a thousand.
	And then we find out that they knew that this guy had made these insane statements about wanting to be a martyr and at work talking about being connected to Al Qaeda and Hezbollah, and he was on their watch list for ten months.
	For some reason they took him off, was on again the next year, connected, at least on the margins, to some other radical that had blown himself up, uh, I forget where, if I think it was El Nusra.
	Um he was Al Nusura connected.
	I mean, it seems that anything Islamic work for this guy didn't seem to have any you know preference for Shia or Sunni, which was a little odd and bizarre.
	And then we find out that the Hill reported this is a guy by the name of Phil Haney, DHS agent, Department of Homeland Security.
	And we found out that he talked in early November of 2009, Obama was the president, how he was ordered by superiors of the Department of Homeland Security to delete or modify several hundred records of individuals tied to the designated Islamic terror groups from an important federal database.
	Now we're gonna get into that at the top of the next hour, but why would they ever have somebody delete this?
	He even went on to say I was being forced to delete and scrub the records.
	And I was well aware as a result, it was going to be vastly more difficult to connect the dots in the future, especially before an attack occurs.
	Why did the Obama administration do this?
	It just makes absolutely no sense.
	Nothing of what they do.
	There was a report on Breitbart.
	Afghanistan into America, 99% support Sharia law.
	Well, if you support Sharia law, that directly conflicts with our constitution, our constitutional republic.
	Those values are in complete conflict.
	I don't see any way that you can have a peaceful coexistence with somebody that feels they have the right to tell women what to wear and tell women they can't drive.
	How do you possibly do that?
	See if Hillary taking money from Saudi Arabia.
	Twenty-five million for the Clinton Foundation.
	Or the government of Brunei, five million, or cutter five million.
	Cutter is only one of ten countries in the entire world that allow the execution of gays and lesbians and bisexuals and transsexuals.
	What is going on here?
	Why are you taking their money?
	And yet you claim to be the champion of women's rights.
	You know, it's it's it's such hypocrisy.
	Andy McCarthy has a piece out today, and he talks about, you know, where this all comes from.
	This this is not about ISIS.
	This is about Islam.
	This is about Sharia.
	This is about the countries that are donating to the Clinton Foundation.
	This is the same Hillary that doesn't speak out about these groups.
	Why doesn't she speak out?
	Did they buy her silence?
	I would say yes.
	They bought her silence.
	Well, there's one gay and lesbian group now that is endorsing Donald Trump after this massacre.
	Enough is enough.
	LG LBGT and Phoenix.
	You know, you might disagree with conservative, you might be gay and disagree with conservatives' positions on changing the definition of marriage.
	That's irrelevant.
	So what?
	Most Americans don't care what people do privately.
	Anyway, it's uh Andy McCarthy's piece is killing homosexuals is not ISIS law, it's Muslim law.
	Now maybe they did target this guy did target this particular nightclub because it was a gay and lesbian nightclub.
	Maybe he did.
	But anyway, Andy goes on to say, based on all of this, there's abundant Washington and media speculation that the attack is ISIS inspired, consistent with the bipartisan bipartisan government approved inanity of what we have been following for a quarter century, what I often call the political classes concoction of an Islam of their very own.
	That Islam is a religion of peace, period.
	End of discussion.
	Violent extremists out uh outfits like ISIS and Al Qaeda, kill wantonly, no real ideological motivation, ISIS al-Qaeda are thus not Islamic, but are actually anti-Islamic, and if they cite Islamic scripture to justify their atrocities, they are hijacking and perverting Islam.
	That's what he writes.
	Because we see these groups as anti-Islam Islam rather than Islam, it's acceptable to call a mass murder attack terrorism only if law enforcement develops some plausible tie to these groups.
	Otherwise, if a Muslim's involved, stick with the workplace violence and the like.com.
	He said there are various ways to interpret Islamic scripture in order to attempt to evolve it out of violence.
	This, of course, does not change the fact that supremacist fundamentalist Islam is a legitimate mainstream, virulently anti Western interpretation of Islam, but it does at least mean that there can be other mainstream versions of Islam that reject violence and Islam's politico legal system.
	Sharia, on the other hand, is basically set in stone, or should I say stoning.
	Even most Islamic reformers acknowledge that it badly needs reform, not that it can be reinterpreted, but it needs to be changed.
	Its provisions and especially its draconian punishments were largely fixed a millennial ago, millennium ago.
	The mandate that homosexuals be killed is not from ISIS or Al Qaeda.
	It's from Sharia, which draws on Muslim scripture.
	Does anybody want to hear this?
	He points out in his piece, he goes on to say, in more than one place in the Quran, Allah recounts to us the story of Lot's people and how he destroyed them for their wicked practice.
	There is consensus among among both Muslims and followers of other religions that sodomy is wrong.
	And it's even viler and uglier than adultery.
	Section page 172.
	Allah Most High says, Do you approach the males of humanity, leaving the wives Allah has created for you?
	But you are a people who transgress, transgress.
	The Prophet Allah bless him and give him peace, said, kill the one who sodomizes and the one who lets it be done to him.
	May Allah curse him who does what Lot's people did.
	Lesbianism by women is adultery between them.
	He just well put the piece up.
	It's worth reading.
	It's it's the what I've been calling the conflict in cultures.
	Just so widespread.
	Let's get to our busy telephones here.
	As we say hi to, I think it's uh J. L in uh where I don't know where you are, St. Augustine.
	How are you in Augustine, Florida?
	I'm doing great.
	How are you?
	I'm good.
	What's going on?
	I you know, I just have a lot of concerns, and we're counting on you to keep up the right kind of uh dialogue.
	This is not about um gun control.
	You know, if you want to talk biblical with all the scriptures you were just talking about, can't you table with a rock?
	This is not about gun control.
	This is about radical Islam, and it shames me when I hear the president speak and try to enforce political correctness, and I think it goes to exactly what Speaker Gingrich just said.
	Through the press and political correctness, they are teaching us to be timid.
	We're uh they're teaching us to go against our own instincts, our own instincts to protect ourselves, and they've actually talked us out of our own common sense.
	So whatever we can do to bring clarity uh to this, it's not about gun control.
	I think we all know that if somebody wants to do harm with a gun, they'll get a gun.
	So let's be real and let's just stop that part of the discussion.
	Listen, people were making fun of yeah, people were making fun of Trump over the weekend.
	It's like if Obama can't see this, he should step down as president.
	And he really should.
	He is it to me, it's now pathological.
	It's there's something, there's a missing chip.
	I'll never forget Jennifer Aniston once revealed about a relationship with Brad Pitt.
	Oh, he's got a missing chip somewhere.
	There's a missing chip in Obama's brain that he can't connect the dots here, that he refuses to connect the dots.
	Same thing with Democrats and Hillary.
	They they have this inclination towards weakness that I will never for the life of me understand.
	But it's now putting people's lives in jeopardy.
	They so want to be like that they're gonna they're willing to take in Syrian refugees.
	Our intelligence community said ISIS will infiltrate the population.
	That means America's gonna Americans are gonna die, and they're willing to gamble with your life anyway.
	It makes no sense.
	Not securing the border and Middle Eastern men crossing the border makes no sense.
	And Republicans, frankly, have been too weak and timid, and they don't want to be called Islamophobic and so on and so forth, so they shut up.
	But the reality is you have a conflict in civilization here.
	You have a direct conflict between freedom and liberty, and a constitutional republic that grants rights to every person versus a society that is a theocracy where and you know, it's patriarchal, where the men control everything, dictate to women what they can and cannot do and dictate behavior.
	They even have in Saudi Arabia morality police.
	They walk around, and if like a woman's holding hands with a guy, she can be in big trouble and get lashes and maybe be put in jail.
	You know, you're right.
	And everything you're saying.
	And then the president, it gets even more psychopathic.
	Then he starts blaming guns.
	Well, if I'm in a in in a nightclub and somebody starts shooting, and I have my gun, I'm going to try and protect innocent life.
	If other people have guns, they're going to take this guy out.
	Bad people don't obey laws anyway.
	It makes absolutely no sense what the liberals are arguing here.
	We're not safer because Obama's president.
	We're less safe because he can't recognize our enemies, refuses to acknowledge them, refuses to acknowledge what the foundation of their ideology.
	You know, gives the Iranians 150 billion dollars and lies about when they started their discussions with them, like Hillary Clinton did.
	Hillary Clinton was involved in that stupidity.
	Just like Benghazi became a disaster.
	They feel they can lie about that.
	Why?
	What was that lie about?
	They couldn't admit it was terror.
	So they had to make up a lie.
	Well, it was a YouTube video at a spontaneous demonstration, and a guy just decided to pull out his uh, you know, is his grenade launcher and start firing at innocent people.
	It was spontaneous.
	It was related to a YouTube video.
	It's a lie.
	These people lie.
	These people cannot recognize truth, and then they accuse everybody else who sees the truth of being bigoted.
	It's it's an upside down Orwellian nightmare we're living in.
	Anyway, back to our phones.
	Jonathan in New Jersey, the all-new AM 710, WOR, the talk in New York and New Jersey.
	Hi.
	Hi, Sean.
	Thank you for taking my call.
	What's going on?
	I'm a gay Republican and a Trump supporter.
	And I am heartbroken over what happened in Orlando.
	What breaks my heart even more is how Obama and Hillary openly blamed guns when in fact it was radical Islam and ISIS.
	And by doing this, they are doing a huge disservice to the gay community and the victims and the families.
	And meanwhile, the Clean Foundation are cashing checks from those who follow Sharia law and kill these people.
	Let me ask you a question.
	How long have you listened to my program?
	Every day for the past five years.
	Okay.
	How many times have you heard me say I don't care what people do in their bedroom?
	It's none of my business.
	Every day.
	Okay.
	How many times have you heard me say, I don't get it?
	I don't understand.
	I under like some people in the gay and lesbian community are mad at me because I don't want to change the definition of marriage.
	I don't care if you do whatever you want.
	But I don't think we should change the definition.
	That's absolutely fine.
	But you know what?
	We fear our jobs, we fear getting kicked out of school.
	I understand.
	No, listen, I I I thought nobody should, it's nobody's damn business what you do privately.
	It really isn't.
	It's not my business.
	But here's the point.
	I'm talking about countries where she's taking money from that throw gays off the roof and bury them in the sand and then stone their heads to death.
	I'm talking about people that literally are put in jail because they're gay, and the Clintons take money from them.
	I don't understand why the gay and lesbian community doesn't say Hannity's right about Sharia.
	He's right about radical Islam.
	Stand with him, they're persecuting gays, and while we're while we're fighting the real enemy, we can argue about gay marriage and have a beer.
	You're a hundred percent right, and I think they'll be coming at soon.
	Absolutely.
	I I mean it's unbelievable.
	You're watching innocent people slaughtered.
	You see women treated worse than cattle.
	I mean, I've never seen anything like it in my life.
	They're living back centuries and centuries and centuries ago.
	And and how I I wouldn't want their blood money, would you?
	No, it's disgusting.
	Well, absolutely disgusting what they're doing.
	And I do think that this this particular nightclub was targeted because he doesn't like gays and lesbians, and he thinks the Quran tells him to kill them.
	You know, the my faith that I'm not look, I'm not the greatest Christian in the world, but my faith tells me, you know, all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and love thy neighbor as thyself, and to me that means everybody.
	That's it.
	You know, that's what that those those are the two laws.
	Love God with all your heart and your neighbor as yourself means you're nice to everybody.
	Absolutely.
	All right.
	Well, I'm sorry.
	Thank you for taking my call, Sean.
	You're a true American.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	And I'm really mean it.
	I love the people of Orlando.
	They shouldn't have to be going through this.
	Breaks my heart.
	Then they hear people in total denial.
	But let's take their guns.
	If I was in there with Bo Deedle, we would have fought for the people there.
	We would have fought till we went down.
	Law abiding gun owners, if they have guns, they're gonna defend innocent people that don't want to carry guns.
	Oh my god, people are getting shot, dude.
	Get out of here.
	Oh my god, dude.
	Fire enough shots.
	His blood splattered on me, and I I just remember just the screaming, and I was like, Are you kidding me?
	Oh my god, so I dropped down and I'm crawling out, and I'm just like, oh my God, please, please, please, please.
	I don't know where my son is.
	No one can tell me where my son is.
	If he's been shot, if he's done, no one knows.
	He's not answering the phone.
	He was shot.
	We don't know.
	He's in the women's bathroom with the hostage.
	He's hostage from the shooter.
	How did you find out he was texting a call?
	What did he tell you exactly?
	That the shooter has them in the women bathroom hostage and he's gonna die.
	Give me all your phones.
	Who's in here?
	I uh uh are are you guys black?
	And couple said, Yeah.
	He said that I don't have an issue with the blacks.
	And then he got on the phone.
	I don't know if it was the news or or the uh police department telling them that to stop America needs to stop bombing ISIS.
	Oh, I was hearing the bang bang bang.
	That was part of a song.
	The Yanging twins, you know, it sounds like something they come out with.
	And then when you turn around the person next to you is like screaming, there's blood splattering.
	I didn't know if it was mine or somebody else's.
	All right, more of the sounds of jihad in America as we continue our news roundup and information overload hour of the program.
	One of the big questions we have in all of this, one of the more disturbing questions in the aftermath, has to do with homeland security and their investigation into this ISIS mass murderer, Mateen, who gunned down all these people on Saturday night.
	Now the FBI acknowledges they launched two separate investigations into his terror ties, and that included three interrogations, after which the FBI decided to close the case on this guy that would launch the most deadly terrorist attack on U.S. soil since 9-11 because of lack of evidence.
	Why wasn't it at least kept on the back burner?
	Why wasn't he kept on a terror watch list?
	Now I suspect that a former terror investigator with the Department of Homeland Security has the answer.
	If you remember after Sam Bernardino, there was a Department of Homeland Security agent.
	His name is Phil Haney.
	He revealed the administration ordered his unit to shut down investigations on Muslim suspects, and worse of all worst of all, destroy the files to make sure those investigations could not be resid uh resurrected if new evidence emerged.
	And that begs the question.
	You know, did the FBI do the same thing?
	But anyway, back in February, Haney told the Hill in early November 2009, I was ordered by my superiors at the Department of Homeland Security to delete or modify several hundred records of individuals tied to designated Islamic terrorist groups from the important federal database.
	Well, why would you do that?
	Because if he was on a watch list, he wouldn't have been able to buy a gun.
	Uh because uh be or at least the FBI would have been notified that he bought a gun.
	And and certainly red flagged if he bought a gun.
	Anyway, those types of records are the basis for any ability to connect the dots every day.
	DHS Customs and Border Protection officers watch entering and exiting of many individuals associated with known terrorist affiliations, and they look for patterns, and forcing a political scrubbing of records of Muslims greatly affected our ability to do that.
	And even worse, going forward, my colleagues and I were prohibited from entering pertinent information into the database.
	Now, members of Congress growed the Obama administration, demanding why subordinates were still failing to understand the intelligence that they had gathered.
	Well he said I was being forced to delete and scrub the records.
	And I was well aware that as a result it was going to be vastly more difficult to connect the dots in the future, especially before an attack occurs.
	Anyway, I think this is pretty scary.
	We know that the Orlando fathers uh land Orlando shooter's father supported the Taliban.
	You know, he he went out there yesterday he's quoted all over the place saying his son was not a radical or radicalized.
	He just didn't like seeing gay people kissing in Miami.
	How many times on this program have I said and questioned why is the gay and lesbian community not standing with the likes of Sean Hannity and speaking out about Sharia law.
	I've raised the question so many times why is Hillary Clinton taking all of this money from all of these countries that have these horrible track records, human rights records for women and gays.
	And she seems they seem to have bought her silence.
	It does matter where you take money from it does matter if that money silences you speaking out.
	It matters in a big way.
	Jonathan Gillam, Navy SEAL, former Federal Air Marshal, Hassan Hassan is the author of ISIS inside the army of uh terror, and uh he's a fellow at the Tahrir Institute.
	Hasan is from Syria and ISIS territory, and he has spoken with ISIS members.
	He understands their mindset.
	Also Michael James Barden is a former White House Homeland Security Staffer and Defense Department counterterror expert.
	Anyway, welcome all of you to the program.
	Thank you.
	Hassan Hassan, let me start with you.
	You know ISIS, you know their mindset.
	We see this is happening all over Europe where refugees now they get into these countries, they commit acts of terror.
	Now we're debating how is it possible this father had radical views, this son was known to law enforcement.
	How did we miss this?
	Well I mean uh uh this is part of the problem uh with ISIS it's uh uh undetectable it's very hard to uh detect these uh these partners uh patterns and in fact the two attacks uh the two recent attacks in the United States in particular are uh particularly difficult to detect.
	They're unlike the uh you know European attacks where the uh perpetrators came from a neighborhood that is well known to be to be a hot bed for jihadists and and so on in the UFM but he went into his workplace and said he was a member of Al Qaeda.
	He went to it in his right place and he stated his affiliation with radicalism and terrorism.
	They investigated him for ten months and then just a few months later they invested him investigated him again.
	They also found that he's uh he he seemed uh psychologically or mentally unstable.
	He in 2013 he claimed to be a member of Hezbollah and in 2014 he claimed to be or he was actually associated to through his brother I think uh with Jabatanusa Al Qaeda franchise in Syria and in 2016 obviously now he's uh supposedly uh affiliated to uh ISIS now that uh that cannot be I mean uh ideologically or uh um you know you and you cannot have a person who has loyalty to these uh groups because they're uh they're different.
	They're fighting each other they are uh you know uh about uh enemies to each other so it's uh it just shows how um you know this was a random uh in terms of uh psychologically is uh is it just a random person who uh uh attacked or launched uh carried out these attacks because uh because like you said he's outraged that uh uh uh gay to see gay people or because he was uh uh inspired to uh take revenge on behalf of ISIS against American citizens.
	Well obviously he had these viewpoints obviously he had these radical associations and views.
	Jonathan Gillam, the FBI has nearly one thousand active ISIS probes inside the United States now in all fifty states.
	So this really can impact all of us.
	You know, absolutely, Sean.
	And one of the things that I think needs to be brought up is that we have never declared war on any of these people, largely in part because we have politicians, administrators that are ineffective at having a strategic plan on how to battle these fundamentalists.
	And I know it's difficult to declare a war on an ideology.
	But what we can do to get around that is whenever a group pops up, up that follows the same fundamentalistic uh ideology we can declare war on them because they're gonna declare war on us.
	ISIS has declared war on us and if we do that what is going to change, and this is where the strategic plan comes into effect, is that these one thousand investigations that you're talking about in all fifty states, we would be able to potentially detain some of these people when they start showing that they are either sympathetic or supporting uh ISIS or any of these groups that we've declared war on.
	But right now what happens is we've seen in San Bernardino, as we've seen definitely seen in Boston and now we definitely have seen it here in Orlando, is that when you open investigation on somebody, you can find out that they are sympathetic to a group that hates us, but you cannot detain them for that.
	And there is where the problem lies, because these thousand investigations, Sean, it's not just one investigator or two investigators looking at this.
	You if you made a phone call right now and said that I was a terrorist, there's gonna be a team of people on me twenty four hours a day.
	And most of those are eliminated pretty quickly.
	But that's a huge amount of manpower that is being wasted because we simply could go and detain these people until the investigation is completely uh finished.
	And in the case of this guy in Florida, um, once you're once you are part of a terrorist investigation, I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to get a weapon, but it should definitely pop when you go to buy one and so they can go and talk to you.
	And these are just it would have happened if they if they would have just kept him on the watch list, that would have happened.
	But they didn't keep him on the watch list.
	That's the problem.
	And that's the mistake.
	Everybody's trying to rub everybody's shoulders and be happy, and you have activists like it's happening now, they're trying to turn this into a a gay hate crime when the reality is they hate all of this, they hate freedom.
	And that's that's all true, but I do think there is an or but or Boston.
	But there is this thing that we cannot deny.
	There's various reports that indicate the death toll here.
	But you know, killing gay people is not ISIS law, it's Muslim law.
	There was a great piece out by Andy McCarthy today about that very point.
	And this is, you know, by the way, this happens in countries and and gays and lesbians are treated atrociously by countries that gave the Clinton Foundation all of this money.
	Michael James Barton, your reaction.
	Well, I have to agree with you.
	One of the common threads of all these different groups who supposedly don't like each other, um, they're extremely hostile to to freedom, they're extremely hostile to homosexuals.
	Um you look at Mossad Massary in Seattle, he uh precursor to this, he tried to burn down a gay club in order to um exterminate homosexuals.
	Also in Seattle you had um Ali Muhaban Brown, who's been executing gays.
	Um he's sent to prison, I believe, last year.
	Uh when you s swim in a sea of hate um uh against homosexuals, I don't think it should be all that surprising when you incite someone uh to go to do an act like this.
	Just in Orlando, we had um Farouk uh Shekalishvar, who is a who was a sheik just a few months ago saying that uh the compassionate thing to do with homosexuals is to execute them.
	And if people listen to this and they swim in that sea of hate, whether they like Al Qaeda or they prefer Boko Haram or whoever, that sort of falls by the wayside when when they're focused on hating a certain group.
	So this is should be no surprise to us.
	Yeah, and and the scary thing is is when you have the the moments, the opportunity, and you find out somebody thinks this way, and somebody believes this crap and this garbage, you know, you ought to pay attention.
	I know ISIS claim responsibility.
	Why?
	Because this guy called 911 and he said, Hey, I'm I'm a supporter of ISIS.
	And there might have been contradictory support for Hezbollah for Shia versus Sunni in in some instances, but you know, twice being investigated for terror ties.
	I understand they're inconclusive, but somebody that would ever state that they're aligned with, associated with Hezbollah or with Al Qaeda should never be off the watch list.
	Hassan Hassan.
	Is that out of political correctness?
	You you uh uh you're absolutely right.
	I mean, these are signs that uh this person uh needed to be uh, you know, the more attention needed to be uh paid to this person and uh to make sure that he's uh you know is not off the hook.
	I agree with that, and I also agree that uh I mean I mean the uh ideology part is uh is a problem not only for Western people but also for uh people in the Middle East uh who who uh uh like who uh uh grapple with this new uh uh this new ideology of of ISIS it uh of course it recasts itself in uh uh in traditional um uh you know uh Islamic traditions,
	but uh I give you two very like short examples of how ISIS diverted from the like everyone else.
	Uh there is a statement last year or the year before 2014, in fact, uh of the spokesperson of ISIS when he said it's not enough.
	Even if you're uh you're aside the prayers as a Muslim and you face your like when you pray towards the Kaaba and Mecca and Saudi Arabia, uh you're not safe if you're not uh if you don't pledge allegiance to us.
	So uh uh submission uh is not enough.
	A submission to God is not enough.
	Submission to the group uh should be uh the only uh criteria.
	Well, otherwise you're ju you're viewed as an apostate, and if you're viewed in the penalty for apostasism is death.
	So even if you have more moderate views, your views can never be spoken because if they are, you will be challenged immediately, and that therein lies the the rub while you don't hear from more moderate people.
	It's for their own safety.
	You know, I believe strongly that common sense gun safety reform across our country uh would make a difference.
	We know that gunmen used a weapon of war to shoot down, you know, at least fifty innocent Americans, and you know, we won't even uh be able to get the Congress to uh prevent terrorists or people on the no fly list from buying guns.
	Uh this this is just uh you know totally incomprehensible, Chris.
	And I think you know, we've got to uh get back to you know common sense gun safety reform, and we can't fall into the trap that is set up by the gun lobby that says if you can't stop every shooting and every incident, you should not try to stop any.
	We did have an assault weapons ban uh for ten years, and I think it should be reinstated.
	The fact that we make it this challenging for law enforcement, for example, even if we get uh uh to to get alerted that somebody who they are watching has purchased a gun.
	And if they do get alerted, sometimes it's hard for them to stop them from getting a gun.
	Is crazy.
	It's a problem.
	And we we have to uh I think decent salt surgery.
	Uh but again, the danger here is is that then it ends up being uh uh uh the usual political debate and the NRA and the gun control folks say that oh uh Obama doesn't want to talk about terrorism.
	And if if you talk about terrorism, then people say, why aren't you looking at uh issues of gun control?
	The point is is that if we have self-radicalized individuals in this country, uh then they are going to be uh uh very difficult often times to find ahead of time.
	And how easy it is for them to obtain weapons uh is in some cases gonna make a difference as to whether they're able to carry out attacks like this or not.
	Um and uh we make it very easy for uh individuals who are troubled or disturbed or want to engage in violent acts uh to get very powerful weapons uh very quickly.
	All right, so Hillary Clinton and of course Barack Obama, they want to make what happened in Orlando uh about guns and about weapons and about assault weapons bans.
	Now we have Obama and Clinton.
	Okay, they want to disarm Americans.
	But if you're in a situation like San Bernardino, if you're in a situation like what happened in Orlando, is it better or worse if there's a law abiding trained either off-duty police officer, military personnel, or maybe an armed citizen that has the ability to stop the killing.
	In both the San Bernardino case and in this case in Orlando, the shooter, the terrorist had an opportunity to reload.
	Well, that gives somebody that maybe has a weapon an opportunity, even if they don't have quite the firepower of of of what the terrorist has.
	And it's kind of beyond hypocritical to listen to the president and presidential candidate Clinton talk about banning weapons, assault weapons when these are the very people that are making it possible for Iran to get nuclear weapons.
	These are the very people that arm the Muslim former Muslim Brotherhood head when he was in charge in in Egypt, Mohammed Morsi, a guy that referred to the Israelis as descendants of apes and pigs.
	Well, when he was the president of Egypt after the Arab Spring, well, Obama stepped up and let's say gave him tanks and F sixteens and uh a billion dollars of taxpayer money.
	Oh, if we're worried about arming terrorists, why would you do that?
	800 nine four one Sean is a toll free telephone number.
	I got a note over the weekend from Narain Wea, who's with us, a Syrian American Christian activist, and she told me she has credible information that in fact there are other attacks planned.
	She's deeply connected into the refugee population, the Christian refugee population.
	And they have been following all of these attacks.
	There's been very little reporting except on this program and maybe on Fox News of the literal uh extermination of Christians that is going on system systematically uh throughout the Middle East and elsewhere.
	Also, Jennifer uh Thalasinos is with us.
	Remember back in San Bernardino, she is the widow of Nicholas Thalasinos.
	He was murdered by those terrorists in San Bernardino back in December of last year, where fourteen people were killed and twenty-two seriously injured.
	Welcome both of you to the uh program.
	Thanks so much for being with us.
	Thank you very much, Sean.
	Now, Rain, you're telling me you have information, credible information that in fact this is just the beginning.
	Absolutely.
	And firstly, as an Assyrian American Christian from an area where ISIS has been brewing in Iraq, you know, my condolences go out to the families um of the victims.
	But the 50 victims who are sacrificed, Sean were not just sacrificed prim primarily because they were homosexual, but it was also because they're considered by this ideology to be infidel and also because they are Americans.
	You know, we've been living this nightmare in Iraq and Syria since two thousand fourteen, and homosexuals are just one type of target by ISIS and their supporters.
	I've been receiving um information since two thousand fourteen from the Middle East that the main target outside of the Middle East for terrorism are the American people.
	That's their end result.
	It's not even truly Europe.
	That's just the middle ground where um they're using to transit.
	And Omar Mateen evidently had communication with ISIS.
	You know, he pledged allegiance to ISIS, and there's a group behind him, you know, when he made that phone call in the bathroom to the police where he led allegiance not only to ISIS, but to the ring leader in Iraq, Abu Bakr Baghdadi.
	You've made several foreign trips to the Middle East where he he was communicating with people there, and you know, to two countries that we believe are ISIS funding and supporting countries like Dubai, um, and the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia in two thousand eleven and twelve.
	You know, he was on a terrorist screening database, and there are um I believe one thousand carriage cases by an intel source and eighty percent of them in the United States are ISIS related.
	You know, there's a lot of terrorists from um killings just based on the ISIS ideology.
	They don't exactly need to be in direct contact with ISIS to transform these um these slaughterings.
	The ideology is operates in packs, and many will follow the stuff that jihad perpetrated by Omar.
	You know, we believe that this is absolutely just uh the ring of the beginning of the ring of attacks, and many will try to copycat him, and uh once they have enough militants in disguise and these super cells that were receiving information from the Middle East that are being planted um in the United States through the refugee prices, and you know, there's definitely a lot of ISIS leaders that are uh coming into the migration into the United States.
	And I see how the corruption in our government is trying to steer this to be uh to have the gun and rifle concerns.
	You know, um that's exactly what they did to the Assyrian Christians and the Hitias in Iraq.
	Two weeks before ISIS invaded, they had uh the Kurdish government, the Islamic government had renewed confiscated all their weapons two weeks before ISIS invaded, you know.
	So my message to the American people is to never give up your gun rights, uh, because that's exactly what they did to us.
	You know, and our borders are wide open here, just like they were in Iraq.
	You know, they're making our country our country extremely vulnerable to war attacks.
	And you know, in a country as large as the United States, their next attack will definitely mirror nine eleven.
	And in fact they're planting it to exceed nine eleven um because they get rewards uh from these ISIS funding and supporting countries, you know, and it's it that's that'd be the last day that I would want to see happen to our American brothers and sisters, you know, especially coming to a country to flee that terrorist activity and it's following up here and our government is just so naive Sean.
	They're so naive they keep labeling labeling it everything but a radical Islamic jihadist attack.
	This is truly a holy war from them and you know we are a pure example of what can happen here and it's not very far from here.
	You know, I've already had a chance to destroy ISIS when it was concentrated with anywhere in Moscow Iraq and Raka Syria and they did it.
	He called it a JV team.
	We've been trying to warn them, and it seems like the conditions in the Western countries are worsening, and the government is still naive, and that's why they allowed the genocide to occur for so long.
	And there is still no serious action, and it seems like even the deaths of these fellow American brothers and sisters are still...
	You're following this, and there has been genocide of Christians that the world has ignored, and you have very eloquently and passionately repeatedly on this program been telling in, informing our audience of how bad this really is let me let me bring Jennifer into our conversation.
	Jennifer welcome back again I I know it wasn't that long ago that you lost your husband and I'm sure that the pain of that day stays with you even today and I'm so sorry you lost him.
	Um I know you can certainly sympathize with all that is going on in Orlando 'cause you live this hell but you know now we discover certain things about the background and the knowledge that our government had about this guy and it really it makes you scratch your head.
	It's beyond frustrating.
	What are your thoughts?
	When I first of all hello Sean um when I heard about what had happened and then started hearing that the FBI had been looking at the guy from Orlando and that he was still somehow able to get these assault rifles and everything else it's just I can't believe it.
	I mean he was working for a company from what I understand that's contracted with Homeland Security.
	Like why was he allowed to continue working for them?
	Why was he allowed to purchase any weapons whatsoever when he already had connection to terrorists we know for a fact from what was said and I noticed when um the FBI had their um press conference today it just seemed like they were giving excuse after excuse as to that they did what they were supposed to and everything else.
	But then like yeah but he was still able to do this and it sounds like a lot that he was on the FBI radar.
	Um his ex-wife knew he had some issues and it's scary a lot of pe it just seems like these people that are becoming radicalized like people are ignoring the signs of what's happening.
	I mean, in the case, the terrorist that killed my husband, I know that the people that worked with him did not know that he was radicalized.
	But we know that there were neighbors that saw him and his buddies doing some stuff at night that didn't look kosher.
	And it turned out he was making bombs.
	I'm like, why didn't somebody say something or do something?
	It's just so frustrating.
	And I said, after my husband was killed and after that terrorist attack, I'm like, that's not...
	not going to be the last one in the United States.
	I knew that something else was going to happen.
	I just had no idea it was going to happen so quickly.
	It hasn't it's barely been six months since the San Bardino attack and to have this happen already and I'm going, how many more people are out there that are going to be self-radicalized are going to turn around and do this.
	And the other thing too is when they first started talking about the terrorists from Orlando they were saying making it sound like he was a lone wolf he wasn't connected and all of this but now this morning the reports I keep hearing it sounds like he was connected with other people so I'm like who else is He connected with, and is it going to be the same thing as what happened with San Bardino where they continued to arrest people connected to the original terrorists, and I'm sure there's probably still others out there.
	Let me ask you as somebody who lived through this.
	I have been a licensed firearm uh I've had license to carry firearm uh licenses in five states Rhode Island, California, Alabama, Georgia, and in New York.
	I have carried a weapon since my twenties with me at all times.
	Would you rather I be in San Bernardino?
	Would you rather I be in that nightclub if something like this happens, somebody like myself or somebody like Bo Deedle or a retired military officer?
	Would you prefer that we be there?
	Oh, definitely.
	When you had mentioned that on your program on Friday about that you um have a weapon at all time.
	Oh yeah.
	I would much rather that there was somebody there that either had their concealed carry permit or somebody that was um former military or in the police department or what have you there that could have possibly what had happened.
	I mean, everything happened very quickly from what I understand, especially in San Bordino.
	I know everything happened within minutes, but there's still that chance that somebody like you or Bo Deedle or um retired military could have stopped them from killing as many people as they did.
	And I would much rather have somebody that's got a concealed carry permit in these facilities than not.
	That's the reason why they're targeting these places because they know that people don't have guns and they're know that they're soft targets, and it's just it's scary.
	They know where to attack.
	I'm a school teacher, and of course we're a soft target.
	My husband and I, before all of this had happened, had talked about what would happen if somebody came in and tried to shoot up the school that I work at.
	You know, we had had this conversation because the fact I worked at a soft target.
	I had no idea that it was going to turn out that it was going to be my husband that was going to be part of the case.
	I know it's so sad attack and I mean when you told your story to me at the time, I uh my heart was broken for you and for your husband.
	Nobody should have to live this way.
	And we don't have to live this way.
	And there is a way to deal with this.
	There is a clash of cultures that we must come to grips with that nobody wants to talk about.
	I will talk about that clash of cultures.
	I'll take all the incoming that is is is inevitable, but we can't let this happen again.
	Uh listen, you're in our prayers, Jennifer.
	Thank you.
	Now, Rain, you're doing um seriously, you're doing God's work every day.
	God bless you both, and I appreciate you being with us.

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