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You know, I want you to just take note.
You've got this book that's coming out on Hillary Clinton, a Secret Service agent blowing the lid off of Hillary's dark side.
He's not the first person to do this.
I want you to sit back and I want you to wait and I want you to watch and I want you to observe.
The left is going to try and smear and slander and hurt and assassinate the character of this particular well, Secret Service agent.
We have done more than I think any other broadcast in giving you the behind-the-scenes accounts of what Hillary Clinton is really like up close and personal.
Now, I've covered over the years many first-hand accounts, one Clinton inside to another.
They describe Hillary as what?
Nasty, vindictive, abusive, malicious.
They tell the story of what it's really like.
You know, we're talking about fairly big names here.
George Stephanopoulos, remember his story?
We'll get into that a little later.
Or De D De Myers, remember her story?
Or Susan McDougal, all on record describing what a hateful and angry person that Hillary Clinton is.
The media is ignoring this.
Anyway, some recordings of some of those accounts have been widely available now in the media.
You haven't heard about them, have you?
Even Frontline did a big piece on it, but it was in 2001.
Anyway, so this may be about to end.
Former Secret Service agent Gary Byrne is writing a book.
It's called The Crisis of Character.
It's due to be released June 28th, which is a month before Hillary is likely to take the stage and accept the Democratic presidential nomination in Philly.
Now, just so you know, he's a former Secret Service agent.
He was assigned to the White House during the Bill Clinton presidency.
And he says, through example after example, that the presumptive 2016 Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton lacks the integrity and lacks the temperament to serve in office.
Let's see how the media covers this book.
Let's see if they do to this particular former Secret Service agent what they, Gary Byrne, what they did to Gary Aldrich and others, and any of the Clinton women that have spoken out.
Apparently, it's a 285-page book.
He was posted directly outside of President Clinton's Oval Office.
It talks about Hillary's appalling leadership style, that she has a volcanic temper, impulsive.
She's enabled by all the sycophants around her, and of course has a disdain for the rules that set for everybody else.
Ooh, emails.
And most of the book's contents, as of now, remain under wraps.
Apparently, this has sent Team Clinton into a dizzying, you know, protect their commander mode.
And that means that they're planning on smearing this guy.
Watch for Media Matters and David Brock and Company.
Watch for John Podesta and Company.
By the way, it's now under wraps at Amazon.com.
And apparently, I think it went straight to number one once Drudge put it up on the Drudge Report.
So anyway, the introduction, Byrne said he personally observed President Clinton's infidelities and was complicit in covering them up.
I even secretly disposed of assorted physical evidence that might later have been used to convict the president, Byrne wrote.
He recalled an alleged fight between the first couple.
It's called Chapter 1, The Vase.
And Byrne said a vase was smashed during a loud argument.
The next morning, President Clinton sported a real black eye.
I'll put a steak on a black eye, is how he describes it.
Clinton's personal scheduler allegedly told Byrne the eye condition was the result of his allergy to coffee.
Yeah, that really works when you have a black eye.
I have an allergy to coffee.
That gave me a black eye.
Why don't you just say you ran into a fence?
Like, you know, normal people.
Anyway, the book about the Clintons was written by insiders, and Byrne's credibility is bolstered by reporting at the time that Monica Lewinsky, Bill Clinton's sex scandal.
New York Times article from April 1998 reported that Byrne, a uniformed member of the Secret Service assigned to the White House, told the deputy chief of staff in 1996 about concerns he had regarding Lewinsky's visits to the West Wing of the White House.
A CNN article from April of 98 said Byrne's complaints about Lewinsky ultimately led to her being transferred to the Pentagon.
Byrne said in the introduction to Crisis that what he saw in the 90s, quote, sickened him.
Question is, will it sicken America?
And how is America going to pay attention?
Crisis of character, a White House Secret Service officer, discloses his firsthand experience with Hillary, Bill, and how they operate.
Hillary Clinton has a Jekyll and Hyde personality that left White House staffers scared stiff.
Anyway, so he was right outside and describes Hillary as too erratic, uncontrollable, and violent to become the leader of the free world.
Oh, I thought this is the way the left was making their argument.
I thought that's what Hillary was arguing last week about Donald Trump.
Anyway, describes Hillary as acting friendly one moment, raging the next moment.
What I saw in the 1990s sickened me.
He writes in the intro of the book.
Claims that she repeatedly screamed obscenities at her husband, at the Secret Service personnel, at White House staffers, all of whom lived in terror of her next tirade.
Secret Service agents had discussions about the possibility that they would have to protect Bill Clinton from his wife's physical attacks, he writes.
And the couple had one violent encounter the morning of a key presidential address to the nation.
And anyway, Hillary's described as paranoid.
She tried to have the Secret Service banned from the White House, tried to ditch her security detail, and she's now poised to become the Democratic nominee for president.
She lacks the integrity and the temperament to serve in that office.
From the bottom of my soul, I know this to be true.
And with Hillary's latest rise, I realize her own leadership style, impulsive, explosive temper, enabled by sycophants, et cetera, et cetera.
Well, he was subpoenaed to testify before the grand jury that investigated Bill's affair with Monica Lewinsky, claims in the book that he interrupted the president's sexual shenanigans in the White House.
He says he walked into a room where the president was involved inappropriately with a woman who was neither his wife nor Lewinsky.
And he says he once threw a White House towel stained with women's lipstick and the president's, quote, bodily fluids out.
Ugh.
Ugh.
Hang on.
I got to take a shower break.
We'll be right back on the Sean Hannity show.
Anyway, and that was, he describes arriving for work one day in 95 and the loud fight that he had.
Anyway, that book downplayed.
The Hillary's campaign is downplaying Byrne's book at this point, but the smearing is going to start.
Anyway, spokesperson for Donald Trump suggested Byrne's book would be the big grist for the campaign as it prepares to face Clinton in the general election.
The issue of temperament is more of a problem for Hillary.
I would agree with that.
Now, they've got a lot going on.
I got to tell you, so Bernie Sanders finally blasted the Clinton Foundation.
Hey, Bernie, tomorrow's California.
A little too little too late, don't you think?
You have not been critical of the Clinton Foundation, but there are those who say that there's something inherently wrong with an American charity, especially one with ties to a Secretary of State, taking money from the Saudis and other foreign governments that don't represent our values.
Is that a fair criticism?
Yes, it is.
It is.
If you ask me about the Clinton Foundation, do I have a problem when a sitting Secretary of State and a foundation run by our husband collects many millions of dollars from foreign governments, governments which are dictatorships?
You don't have a lot of civil liberties or democratic rights in Saudi Arabia.
You don't have a lot of respect there for divergent opposition points of view, for gay rights, for women's rights.
Yeah.
Do I have a problem with that?
Yeah, I do.
You think it creates an appearance of conflict of interest?
How bold and brave of Bernie to finally now realize Hillary is ethically challenged.
Remember, we played a tape many times on this program of Roger Clinton, Bill's brother, using the N-word repeatedly.
Well, apparently, good old Roger was arrested for drunk driving last night in California.
News breaking the day before the all-important California primary.
Anyway, he was arrested over the weekend in Los Angeles, driving under the influence.
TMZ first reported the arrest.
It comes just two days before the primary.
Anyway, arrested just after 8 p.m. in Redondo Beach, booked for driving under the influence, remains in custody.
Bail was set at 15 grand.
Well, the Clintons have the money.
I would think they'd be able to bail him out.
They've got millions.
You know, I want to go into this issue of, I know the media, and I watched some of the morning shows this morning.
I have no idea why I was up at 6 o'clock, 7 o'clock watching them, but I was.
And I'm watching some of this this morning, and it's just very frustrating.
And all the narrative this weekend and all the narrative this morning was about Donald Trump and Trump University and Judge Gonzalo Curiel presiding over the fraud lawsuits and whether or not the judge should have recused himself and the fact that Donald Trump pointed out that he was of Mexican descent, even though he's an American.
He was born in Indiana, Mexican immigrant parents.
And Trump said that the heritage posted an inherent conflict of interest.
That's not where the conflict of interest is.
I would say that Trump is, if he's guilty of anything here, it's not, he's being inarticulate and just wrong on what the argument should be.
Number one, the judge is a member of this group called La Rasa.
Now, that's not the same as the National Council of La Rossa, which I'm sure some of you are familiar with.
And the National Council of La Rosa has some pretty controversial points of view.
You know, they're the group that wants to reclaim ASTLAN and parts of the U.S. that they think belong to Mexico.
And they're real radical leftists.
But this judge is a part of a lawyers group with the same name, La Rosa, meaning the race.
So the media has been insisting all weekend that the legal group that the judge is presiding over, the lawsuit, has nothing to do with La Rosa, the advocacy group.
I mean, everybody from the Washington Post, all over the web, they're claiming that the San Diego La Rossa Lawyers Association is just like another local business group like the Rotary Club or the Kiwanis Club.
They have absolutely nothing in common with National La Rosa.
All right, maybe there's no affiliation.
Well, then somebody needs to explain why the website of the San Diego La Rossa Lawyers Association includes a link to another website called borderangels.org, which instructs those sympathetic to the cause of illegal immigration on how to help illegals cross the border illegally.
That's the judges' group that he's a part of.
Anyway, some of the excerpts from BorderAngels.com, they prevent unnecessary death and harm reduction through desert water drops and border rescue stations and day laborer outreach and et cetera, et cetera.
And with the help of volunteers like yourself, Border Angels leaves dozens of gallons of jugs of water in the desert along high-traffic migrant paths.
It's not migrants, it's illegal immigration.
And a judge that is part of a group that supports illegal immigration.
That's a problem.
Whether or not they're totally connected to the La Rossa advocacy group is a different thing.
I want you to think about something.
Think about this.
Remember when Sada Mayor, Sonia Sadomayor, referred to herself as a wise Latina?
And that would influence how she makes her decisions for better because of her background and her experience.
That wasn't a controversial statement.
When Trump says maybe somebody with a Latino influence in a case, well, he's Adolf Hitler.
He's a Nazi.
You know, think about this.
The same thing.
You know, Democrats furious at the appointment of Clarence Thomas.
And he was called every horrible name in the book, Uncle Tom, and all these horrible, vicious, nasty things that have been said about him.
And Clarence Thomas offended the left's concept of how things should be and how dare he be black and conservative.
Now, isn't there some similarity here in assuming that Sonia Sotomayor's comments or the way Clarence Thomas, that he didn't play to type, you know, because he wasn't a liberal Democrat or a wise Latina?
You know, doesn't that suggest that the background, the heritage of somebody might influence how they do things?
That's what liberals believe.
Now, if Trump believes it, it's a whole different story.
Think about that.
So that's not the story, though, for me.
I think everyone's missing the whole thing.
I pointed out this last week that Bill Clinton made $16.5 million between 2010 and 2014 because recently revealed Hillary emails during her first year at Secretary of State, her husband worked for, was the chancellor of the Laureate Network, which is the world's largest for-profit university network.
And by the way, he's been paid to make appearances promoting Laureate University in Malaysia, Peru, and Spain.
And they've had problems in Rio where a state legislator said they've turned education into commodity that's more focused on profit than knowledge for the students.
You have one student, Larissa de Silva, who complained that when she enrolled, she felt completely deceived.
Other people have complained.
One named Felipe Lejaras, 24, stated that he was surprised when he was accepted as a student.
They just wanted his money.
He said, I didn't have the grades to get into this school or any school.
Well, anyway, Bill Clinton made $16.5 million.
And then Hillary used her position as Secretary of State to get Laureate included in a big State Department dinner.
How come none of you know about that?
Because the media is not going to tell you the truth.
The media is not going to give you facts and perspective.
If they're going to talk about Trump University, let's talk about the great chancellor, Bill Clinton, a Laureate University.
Let's talk about the unhappy students there.
Let's talk about those that feel that they were defrauded out of money.
How come students feel that they can get in just because they're buying some type of degree?
That it's not about education, according to one real lawmaker.
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Well, if we're all upset about Trump University, then I think it's certainly fair game to examine Bill Clinton's payment by Laureate International University, which turned out to be incredibly lucrative for him.
$16.5 million between the years 2010 and 2014 for his role in the for-profit college.
By the way, they got their own, which it was really, it turns out, it looks like to me to be like a third world college scam that maybe makes Trump University look like Harvard.
Well, the time is all said and done.
I mean, when you look at some of the complaints here, I mean, it's pretty amazing.
Anyway, Secretary of State, then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton insisted that Laureate Education be included in a guest list for education policy dinners hosted at the State Department.
She said it's a for-profit model that should be represented.
She wrote in an email: Senior Vice President of Laureate was added to the guest list.
Bill Clinton got $16.5 million.
Was she using her position as Secretary of State?
By the way, five schools in the U.S. that operate under Laureate's umbrella, one including Walden University, a Laureate school of Minneapolis.
And even though its parent company had the money to pay our former president $4 million a year, Walden charges students nearly $60,000 in tuition and fees for most undergraduate degrees.
CNBC wrote about Laureate College and Walden University in Minnesota and claimed professors were inaccessible and continual delays stretched out the time.
And thus, that means the money needed by students to earn an advanced degree.
A number of students file lawsuits against Walden, hoping to make it a class action suit, just like in the case of Trump University.
Allegedly breach of contract, unjust enrichment, violations of state consumer protection, and unfair competition laws.
Another Laureate school, the new School of Architecture and Design in San Diego, charges undergraduate architecture students $8,646 a quarter just for tuition.
Kendall College's tuition is just as outrageous.
Laureate gets 84% of its revenue from outside the U.S.
And by the way, mostly from Latin American countries.
Company faced a great deal of backlash in Chile and Brazil, leading to the loss of accreditation for one of its Chilean schools in 2014.
Yes, that's the time when Bill Clinton himself was the chancellor of the Laureate Network.
Whoops.
One student, I got a kick out of this, Felipe Linharz, 24, he said he was surprised they even accepted him.
I knew I had done terribly on the test, but the salespeople call me three times saying I'd done great.
When did I want to enroll?
No wonder why a Rio state legislator concluded, this isn't about education.
This is focused more on profit than knowledge.
Whoops.
Now, neither Lauriette nor Bill Clinton disclosed how much money Clinton was paid to promote the for-profit international university setup, which features both classroom and online instruction.
I feel completely deceived, said one student.
Wow, hang on, Hannity.
You mean there's other problems here?
Now, I think if you go back to the Trump criticism, maybe Trump should have pointed out that this judge in this case is part of a pretty radical group, as I mentioned, La Rossa.
Again, separate and apart from the other La Rossa that is well known, the National Council of La Rosa.
No, this is the La Rossa Lawyers Association.
But when you look at that website, well, you see that the judges, La Rossa Lawyers Group, aids any illegal immigration and linked to groups like Border Angels, which help illegal immigrants get into the country.
Or maybe Donald Trump should have pointed out that the law firm, Robbins Geller, which was appointed by the judge in the Trump University case, Judge Gonzalo Curiel to represent a plaintiff in the Trump University class action suit, well, has another connection to Hillary Clinton, a number of connections.
Well, let's see, the chairman, Darren Robbins, gave $2,700 to Hillary's campaign.
Whoops.
And then the very law firm picked by the judge in the Trump University case, well, they also paid Bill and Hillary $450,000 for two speeches.
Whoops.
Can anyone say conflict of interest?
Can anyone say recusal?
Can anyone say fundamentally unfair?
Anyway, just a sign of the times.
The America's first Hispanic Attorney General said this weekend that Donald Trump is right to question the impartiality of a federal judge presiding over the lawsuit.
Former Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, he wrote an op-ed for the Washington Post.
He said an independent judiciary is extremely important.
The value is not the only one in play here.
Equally important, if not more important, from my perspective as a former judge and U.S. Attorney General, is a litigant's right to a fair trial.
The protection of that right is a primary reason why our Constitution provides for an independent judiciary.
If judges and other trials over which they preside are not perceived as impartial, the public will quickly lose interest in the rule of law upon which our nation is based.
Trump said Thursday that the U.S. District Judge and his Hispanic ethnicity is an absolute conflict of interest.
And, you know, I think what Trump didn't do is fill in the blanks that I'm filling in here.
It's not because his parents were from Mexico.
That has nothing to do with it.
He was an American born in Indiana.
I don't think it should have anything to do with it.
But his connection to La Rosa, the race, which is the interpretation, that's a problem.
And, you know, I think that bolsters his complaint.
I think the judge's connection to this law firm and appointing lawyers in the case that is so directly tied to Hillary Clinton, I think that's a problem.
So I think in many ways, I think things were done really wrong here.
And so this is a media-fueled fiasco.
But nobody has heard of Laureate University, have they?
Nobody heard about how much money Bill Clinton got as chancellor, did they?
Nobody heard about the students' complaints or lawsuits in this particular university.
And that's because, as the Daily Caller reported, Judge Curio was a member of La Rossa Lawyers of San Diego.
Now, why would this be a problem for Trump?
Well, you know, the melee that broke out last Thursday night outside of Trump's speech in San Jose, doesn't that illustrate the problem that sometimes manifests itself when you're a member of a militant ethnic advocacy group?
You know, and it's okay if somebody says I'm a wise Latina like Sonia Sotomayor, what is the implication?
She's implying that racial diversity is a good thing.
She's implying that it's a factor.
Or the fact that Clarence Thomas does not fit the mold being black and liberal.
Oh, somehow that breaks a narrative that liberals wanted to advance, that if you're black, you must have a certain point of view.
So the people that are playing racial and ethnic politics all the time are the left.
It's not conservatives.
Anyway, Gateway Pundin pointed out, San Jose Police Department, we're going to show you all this video tonight.
It is so unbelievable, has adamantly denied the charges, but Trump supporters were attacked by violent rioters after this event.
And a day after the melee erupted outside the Trump rally, the San Jose police chief and the mayor defended themselves.
Well, it appeared that many onlookers to the police that the violence went unchecked, San Jose Police Chief insisted that it's more important for police to hold their skirmish line formations than to stop individual attacks.
What?
You see the lady that was, you know, the one guy punched in the face?
You see the lady egged right in her face like a mob.
I see over the weekend that Bill Crystal's white knight has dropped out of the presidential race.
David French is going back to writing.
Nobody knew who he was anyway.
You got black radical professor Angela Davis urging people to do whatever's necessary to stop Trump.
Huh.
Notorious 1960s radical Angela Davis urging her followers to, quote, do whatever is necessary to stop Donald Trump.
Wow.
Now, Davis' biography provides the best evidence for the meaning behind that thinly veiled message here.
Davis became a household name in 1969.
She was removed from her teaching post at the University of California, Los Angeles for social justice work and her affiliation with the Communist Party.
She was on the FBI's 10 most wanted list based on her involvement in a courtroom kidnapping that resulted in the deaths of a judge and three jurors.
Wikipedia explains it as the firearms used in the attack, including the shotgun used to kill Judge Haley, had been purchased by Davis two days prior, and the barrel of the shotgun had been sawn off.
Davis was found to have been corresponding with one of the inmates involved.
Nine books, and four decades later, Vocal Davis is now a distinguished professor of history at UC Santa Cruz.
So what does that mean when Angela Davis says we need to get rid of Trump by any means necessary?
Michelle Obama says Trump feels threatened by diversity.
She also said that she wakes up every day in a house that was built by slaves.
A recent thing.
By the way, in a Ramadan message, Obama took a swipe at Trump.
Hmm, that's nice.
In a Ramadan message.
Take a swipe at Trump.
Well, let's see.
It was his National Director of Intelligence, his special envoy to defeat ISIS, his FBI director, his assistant FBI director, and our House Homeland Security Secretary.
You've all said, Chairman, rather, have all said that ISIS will infiltrate the refugee population.
Excuse me.
I just choose to listen to them and not risk the lives of innocent Americans.
All right, let's get to our busy telephones here.
Let's say hi to Paul in Sarasota, Florida, listening to Fox News Radio and Fort Myers, I think.
How are you?
Well, I would be listening to it, except that I'm from Florida, but I'm actually in Oregon at the moment.
So it's a little colder here.
What's going on?
Well, I just wanted to say that I agree with you that Trump does have a way of getting the message out in very small words.
I mean, he'll say that this judge was a Mexican, but he met all of that other stuff that you were talking about.
But the thing that's going on, I believe, right now, is that the minorities are just taking this to the extreme.
Anytime that their minority ethnicity or whatever is mentioned, they want to take a sense.
I mean, am I supposed to go down saying, hi, I'm a white man?
Or am you supposed to know what I mean?
No, I just think that why is a judge connected to a lawyers group called The Race?
Why is that website help illegal immigrants?
And why would it be a stretch to say a lawyer's group that has the race in its title and email links to help illegal immigrants that they might not be favorable towards Donald Trump, who's very well known on his position about illegal immigration?
I don't think that's a stretch.
Yeah, I don't think it's a stretch at all.
And I think that Trump is exactly right that there could be a conflict of interest here.
But I think he was inarticulate in how he made his argument.
I think he should have made his argument going through the details as I have.
Well, then they're going to use sound bites, you know, and they're just going to say, okay, he said this and this.
It has nothing to do with the fact that the judge has Mexican parents.
It has to do with the judge's position and the judge's relationship to this potentially radical group and the judges' appointments of lawyers from a law firm that give heavily to the Clintons.
And it does give his thinking on a lot of different topics that Trump should be a little concerned about.
All right.
Thank you for the call.
Amy, Colorado, what's up, Amy?
How are you?
Hey, Sean, great to talk to you.
Great to talk to you.
Thank you.
I just wanted to say that I've always been kind of supportive of Trump, and I think he's right.
I mean, he is what you see, what you hear and what you see with Trump is what you get.
There's no fake about this guy.
With Hillary, everything is fake.
She's one person to us, another person behind the scenes that we don't see.
And what I like about Trump, he says things as they are because he knows it's true.
He's not professional, so a professional politician, so he might not know exactly how to save the things that he wants.
Trump's not a talking point.
Trump doesn't go out there and talk like your typical politician because he's not.
And in that process, he might have moments like he did where he's going to be inarticulate.
I think there's a very strong case to be made.
The judge's connection to La Rossa, this group, which is also connected to efforts to help illegal immigrants, shows a conflict.
The judge's appointment of a law firm that representing plaintiffs, that the law firm is so connected to the Clintons and giving them money.
That's a conflict.
And I think that's how the case should have been made, not that they're Mexican.
Nathan in Lynchburg, Virginia, the home of Liberty University.
What's up, Nathan?
How are you?
Hey, Sean, how's it going?
This is absolutely ridiculous.
Hillary's a pot call in the country.
Since when, look, I graduated from university.
Does that guarantee me a job?
They might say, oh, if you graduate from university, your chances are you get a job or greater.
Sure.
But just because these people went through a program doesn't mean that everyone that comes out of that program is going to be automatically a millionaire and successful.
Secondly, Trump made a mistake by even saying anything about this.
He should have let the lawyers that he hired that he has to take care of this and not said anything about it, just kept on moving the way he was going.
He just needs to be careful.
He needs to be careful in the future with what he says.
That's all I'm saying.
But I absolutely agree with Trump on what he said.
Yeah, to me, it's, you know, I think the conflict should have made it the case as I did here.
And I think also the Laureate University case has got to be brought up.
Now, let me tell you some of the things we're doing on Hannity tonight, because this is important.
We're going to lay out the Laureate University case, which everyone else has ignored.
Also, you know, the media is ignoring all this anti-American, you know, pro-Mexican flag violence at Donald Trump rally's.
I mean, it's getting vicious out there.
We'll get into the whole Trump University thing versus how the media ignores Laureate University.
And by the way, did anyone notice Hillary is against our Second Amendment, couldn't speak up for our Second Amendment this weekend?
There's a lot at stake this election.
You know, if you're pro-life, if you're pro-Second Amendment, if you want to build the wall, do you want to repeal Obamacare?
Do you want conservative justices?
There's a lot at stake here.
And the media wants Trump to lose big time.
Bernie or Bust, the Bernie or Bust movement.
These are people who say, if you're not the nominee, that's it.
They're out of the process.
What is your message to those people?
Obviously, you want their support and you want to be the nominee.
But is Bernie or Bust a palatable position?
Well, I think to answer your question, the idea that I can slap my fingers and have millions of supporters kind of march in line, that is not what our effort is about.
I think if I am not the nominee and we're going to fight to become the nominee, it is Secretary Clinton's job to explain to those people why she should be, why she should get their support.
And that means she's going to have to address their needs.
Secretary Clinton is going to have to make the convincing argument to them that how could it be that she's getting huge amounts of money from Wall Street and other powerful special interests, and she is going to stand up and fight for them.
But no matter what, are you going to work hard to make sure that Donald Trump loses and the Democratic candidate, whether it's you or her, wins?
Yes.
All right.
Turmoil and rift within the Democratic Party.
Bernie is taking it all the way, so he says, to the convention.
And on top of that, the Hillary campaign is bracing for this massive book, A Secret Service Agent, as I've been telling you, blowing the lid off Hillary's much darker side.
We've heard about these reports for many, many years.
And joining us now to discuss and talk about it is John McLaughlin, founder of McLaughlin and Associates.
And welcome, sir, to the program.
Thanks for being with us.
Great to be back.
So if you listen to Hillary's chief campaign strategist and pollster, there's a note of measured confidence in their candidates' chances in California.
Bernie now is within, he's actually in the lead in one poll by one point.
They think they can take California.
Either way, Bernie says he's going all the way to the convention.
What does that mean for the Democrats?
Well, I think it's probably a sense of relief because she's only 22 delegates off from clinching this, but it's the last day, the very last election.
And the only reason why she's up is because those superdelegates are going for 548 to 46.
So California, which is really hard to ignore, if these polls are correct, where Sanders was moving, and I take the polls in California with a grain of salt because a lot of times these media polls don't go into the expense that they have to do to try to find out what's really going on.
But the field poll on Thursday seemed pretty accurate that had Hillary but only 45 to 43, but they do account for early voting and they do account for, you know, I mean, at the time they were polling about a quarter of the voters who voted early already in the Democrat primary.
And they also had almost half represented as Hispanic in the Democrat primary out there.
And among those voters, it was 46 to 42 that Clinton was ahead by only four points.
And they do Spanish-speaking interviews.
And that's the big expense out there is if you're not doing the Spanish-speaking interviews, you're not going to be accurate.
So for Sanders to be that close, it's really amazing that here she is finally on the very last primary day clinching the nomination barely and only because it's been a rigged deck with the superdelegates.
Otherwise, Sanders would have her on the ropes and they'd be fighting, you know, ironically, they'd be fighting it out among the delegates until they got to Philadelphia.
Yeah, well, I think that's going to happen.
I mean, you hear all these Occupy people, some 20-plus thousand, and that's just the beginning, committed to going there and creating chaos on Bernie's behalf.
Why do I expect that we might see Chicago 1968 again in the city of brotherly love?
Well, you know, 16 years ago, people forget, but at the time I was working for, I'd started the year working for Steve Forbes, but George W. Bush beat us.
But I also worked for Jim Gilmore, the governor of Virginia at the time, who was to become the RNC chairman.
So I remember going into Philadelphia on a bus with Governor Gilmore, and that bus was being rocked by anarchists, and that was all before 9-11 and all these other kind of protests.
And you had the same thing when Bush got inaugurated.
But the security and the Philadelphia police did a very good job at the time.
But Sanders people look a lot more committed.
And what's amazing is the violence going on at the Trump rallies where they're trying to blame Trump for this.
Well, we're going to show a lot of this on TV tonight because I don't think people really see it.
I mean, you saw gangs of people surrounding women and walking right up to their face and throwing eggs right in the woman's face.
And then you see other images of people literally chasing Trump supporters down the block.
It's just an outright war against these people.
And women and children are also part of the crowds that go to this thing.
I don't know what's going to happen that's worse.
I mean, what did you think of Donald Trump mentioning the conflict?
I think he should have focused more on the conflict as it relates to the conflict of interest as judge has in the case against Trump University.
I think he could have pointed out like we'll do on TV tonight, and I did last week here on radio, Laureate College University, where Bill Clinton gets paid $16 some-odd million dollars, and yet this is ripe with fraud and abuse and unhappy students all across some of these poorer countries, and he's getting this massive paycheck.
Well, I agree with you that sometimes he gets off-message when he gets into his businesses and other stuff where he's got that case going on, and he's got good lawyers, and he's got people that are clearly going to testify that it was a good investment for the Trump University.
But it comes off as if he's attacking the judge, who happens to be an American, attacking his heritage.
Now, he may have political views that he has an issue with.
Well, he does obviously have political views.
I mean, he goes to the law firm, which was surprising to me that it donated to Hillary Clinton, and the same law firm is associated with nearly half a million dollars in speaking fees.
Right, but it gets him off message because at the time this was going on, Hillary wanted to change the subject.
She doesn't want to talk about losing to Bernie in California.
She doesn't want to talk about the national polls where Trump is leading her or right behind her.
Because, you know, if those polls hold, I mean, it's pretty clear that President Obama does not like Donald Trump.
And if Hillary Clinton is losing to Donald Trump going into that convention, he just may indict her.
Like have Loretta Lynch.
Oh, by the way, you know, we might as well indict her on these emails as if we could get Joe Biden or something.
But you see that more and more you see that Obama, again, I think the only part of politics he likes is campaigning.
I think he likes to be loved.
And you see that he now wants to get actively involved in the campaign.
I don't think, you know, I don't think that's good.
I mean, in a Ramadan message, Obama took a swipe at Trump for crying out loud.
Yeah, and even Michelle Obama, speaking at a graduation commencement, takes shots at Trump.
Yeah, she says, I wake up every day in a house that was built by slaves.
That was her comment.
Right.
But you know what?
Last week, you know, when President Obama was in Elkhart, Indiana, now, Indiana is doing better than some other Midwest states because they have a Republican governor that was preceded by a Republican governor, Mike Pence and Mitch Daniels, with the Republican legislature.
Like I worked for the Senate leader, Senator Long, David Long, they have right-to-work laws.
They have reduced taxes.
They've reformed their education system.
They're attracting jobs in that state.
And it's not because of President Obama's policies.
It's actually in spite of his policies.
And they handed that to Trump on a silver platter where he could say, hey, did you look at the job statistics from last week?
I mean, Trump's message is economic growth.
That's where he's leading Hillary Clinton five to four in the polls.
That's where he's definitely gaining his leverage over her, where people want economic growth.
They're tired of not having pay raises.
They're tired of people leaving the job force.
The reason the unemployment rate is low is because it's so dishonest, like everything else about the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton, is they don't count people that stop looking for work anymore.
If they did, the unemployment number would be around 9% or 10%.
And really, that's Trump's strength, and that's where he has to get back on message and continue to take the lead on Hillary Clinton.
You know, in the past, John, I have chronicled on this program the, I think more than anybody else, the descriptions of Hillary by people like George Stephanopoulos and Dee Dee Myers and Susan McDougall, all on record describing what a hateful and angry person that Hillary Clinton is.
Now, we've covered pages and pages of firsthand accounts from one Clinton insider after another.
They say she's nasty, vindictive, abusive, malicious.
Anyway, and recordings of some of these accounts have been available in the media for years, and much of it was even broadcast on frontline in 2001.
But you have this forthcoming book by a former Secret Service officer assigned to the White House during Clinton's presidency, alleging that Hillary Clinton lacks the integrity and the temperament to serve in the office.
Now, other people have spoken out against the Clintons, and what usually happens is they get smeared, slandered, and besmirched.
The book is due out June 28th, a month before Clinton is likely to take the stage at the Democratic presidential nomination, the convention in Philly.
It's written by an ex-Secret Service officer, Gary Byrne, posted directly outside of Bill Clinton's Oval Office.
It describes Hillary as having appalling leadership style, volcanic, impulsive, enabled by sycophants, disdain for the rules set for everyone else, and apparently much worse because not a lot has been released on this book.
How big a damage can that do?
It just reinforces the character.
The majority of Americans right now are unfair to Hillary Clinton, and she's trying to keep Trump's unfavorables as high because if they, what the trend that's been happening over the past couple weeks is Trump's taken the case to her on character and other issues.
He's been dissipating his negatives, raising his favorables that he could actually pass her.
And what the American public knows, when you ask something, what do you like least about Hillary Clinton?
The number one thing is liar, dishonest, corruption.
They don't like her, period.
And it's been a long time.
She's been in the public eye for 25 years with scandals and a certain attitude where she's not close.
It's not like she's going to be your best friend.
There's a whole bunch of character things where it would be really hard to lower her negatives.
And the only way they could be lowered is if she's trying to, on her strategy, she's trying to make Trump seem unstable, that he can't be commander-in-chief, that he can't have his finger on the nuclear button.
That was really transparent over the past week.
And if Trump is able to basically say, you know, I'm the more serious, decisive person that can be the commander-in-chief, he could wrap this election up where she wouldn't be able to come back.
And it's really related to character.
So where are the polls?
Because I look at Michigan.
I look at California.
I look at New York.
I look at New Jersey in the head-to-head matchups.
Then you look at Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, Florida, all of the ones I've seen head-to-head matchups in.
And really, it's very, very close is the best way to describe it, but Hillary has an advantage.
She has an advantage.
I mean, when you were talking about the Quinnipiac poll in Pennsylvania, she was ahead by only a point, and that was back on May 8th.
And when you're talking about Florida, there's been polls come out that have been fairly close, like Mason Dixon came out just this weekend, where it has Hillary Clinton up by three.
But it's all within the margin of error.
And these are the key battleground states.
And Trump was actually ahead in that Ohio Quinnipiac survey that came around May 8th.
And you had also the CBS YouGov survey, which would be an online survey that's a little tilted against Trump, but it had her only up five.
So they're relatively close to or within the margin of error with lots of time to go in all these key battleground states.
And there was even a Mommoth University poll that had Hillary only up four points in New Jersey.
Well, if that's true, and some of these Northeast rest belt states go into play that aren't usually into play for the Republicans, he has a really good shot at beating her and beating her decisively.
And for those of us who are older and remember when Jimmy Carter lost to Ronald Reagan, at this point in time, Carter was ahead of Reagan decisively.
And it wasn't until they debated in October that when Reagan said, there you go again, all of a sudden the polls flipped and the negatives on Reagan disappeared.
If Trump can have an attitude like that where there is a there you go again moment on Hillary Clinton whose character is not going to change and the failures of the Obama administration, which she's going to represent a third term for on the economy and on security, if Trump has a there you can moment that these polls are going to flip and they'll flip decisively in his favor.
How big of a convention bounce would you expect for both of them?
You know, I'm waiting to see if Trump hires Mark Burnett to run his convention because the guy's a master at television.
I mean, he had the highest rated celebrity reality TV show of the last few years.
So I would expect that they both would get a little bounce mainly because with the Democrats, you would have media bias.
But that would be coming after the Russian.
All right, so who is the best choice for VP for Trump and who's the best choice for Hillary?
You know, I was listening over the weekend to, and your show, you've had Newt Gingrich on.
And Gingrich is a strategic thinker that would be out of the box for Trump in that he has government experience.
Yeah, but I bet Trump is mad because he didn't like the comments about the judge.
Well, you know what?
He may be mad at him, but I don't think he's necessarily wrong.
And what Gingrich gives to Trump is that experience that he's actually done things and could get things done.
So who's best for Hillary then?
Elizabeth Warren?
I bet you she's going to pick somebody.
She needs to keep the African-American turnout high.
And I know she met with Corey Booker last week, and that was well publicized.
She might pick Deval Patrick.
Interesting.
Does Obama on the trail help her or hurt her?
I think he could hurt her.
Right now, he's helping her because he has less negatives than her.
But if his administration does not have any economic success and we are going into a business recession, as I'm going to go back to the John McLaughlin, thank you, brother.
All right, take care.
Thank you very much.
So I'll take it that you don't accept their conclusion.
Just one other question on this.
Have you had any contact yet with the FBI, you or your agents over this matter?
I have not been asked to come in for an interview.
I've said I am more than willing since last August, and I would like to do that sooner instead of later and get this matter wrapped up and behind us.
Yeah, they say that all the time, but they never really want to get to the bottom line.
We still have not concluded everything that's happened with the IRS scandal or Benghazi or Fast and Furious, and the list goes on and on and on.
They always say, oh, yeah, I'd love to get this wrapped up.
Never happens.
Anyway, joining us in studio, rare New York appearance, a lot different than his home state of Utah, is the House Oversight Committee Chairman, Congressman Jason Chaffetz, and he is the head of the Freedom Caucus, Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio.
Well, welcome both of you to the program.
What brings you to New York besides doing outnumbered with the I saw you earlier this afternoon?
That's rough duty going on outnumbered.
One lucky guy.
That's pretty tough.
They can gag up on you.
You've got to watch your back.
You do?
You do, like everything else.
You know, one of the things, I listen to Hillary.
I'd like to get this whole thing wrapped up.
Baloney.
They never want to get anything wrapped up.
And the whole idea, I don't care if it's Fast and Furious.
I don't care if it's Benghazi.
I don't care if it's the email scandal.
I don't care if it's even getting rid of the IRS commissioner and going after conservative groups.
The idea is delay, delay, obfuscate, delay, delay.
And then when it comes up, oh, that's old news.
And it seems to work.
Her comment is an absolute fabrication of the truth because the Inspector General was also doing an investigation.
And guess what?
The Inspector General made a request to have her come in and talk, and she refused to do it.
He doesn't have a subpoena authority, but to say out to the public, I want to get this behind.
I want to answer all the questions.
The Inspector General went to ask the questions and she refused to answer him.
What is taking so long with James Comey to get to an answer as to whether or not she's committed crimes?
I mean, I know he says there's no timeline, but the longer it goes on, I mean, we're in the middle of a presidential election, and she seems to be who the Democrats are nominating to be their candidate.
About two months ago, James Comey, the head of the FBI, came in and met with the Judiciary Committee, which I sit, and Jim Jordan does as well.
And he looked us in the eye and said, I work on this every day.
Nothing happens without me.
My finger is on the pulse.
And this is my own personal opinion.
I think it spread well beyond just the email and the servers.
We've heard that it now has gone into the whole issue of the Clinton Foundation and a whole variety of other issues, all of which are important.
But at some point, doesn't he have to look at the reality of a presidential election?
I do.
I don't think it's fair to the country, and I think he has to deal with this sooner rather than later.
My own personal guess, just a personal guess, that before July 15th, which is really the weekend before the Republican convention, somewhere between now and July 15th, I think something will happen.
Do you think he comes up with a criminal referral?
Will he send to the Justice Department evidence that Hillary Clinton and her aides violated the law with the secret server in the bathroom of a mom-and-pop organization?
Certain things we know she lied about.
Number one, sending and receiving classified information.
We know that she lied about when she said she didn't think anybody tried to hack it.
They had actually turned the whole system down.
We know she's told another of other fabrications.
So it seems like she didn't protect them.
And isn't that a felony in and of itself to preserve and protect?
It is.
There are things that are so sensitive of such top secret levels that even the Inspector General could not look at them because he didn't have the proper security clearance.
Special access program classification, for example.
They put people's lives in danger.
And she set up this email system with herself.
She set it up, by the way, the very same day she started her Senate confirmation.
What a coincidence.
All right, so let me bring Jim Jordan in here.
Jim, how are you?
Welcome back to the program.
By the way, I hear a friend of yours is running for, what, the 8th District in Ohio, a guy by the name of Warren Davidson.
I was looking at this guy's resume.
He went to the, what, West Point?
He's West Point Army Ranger to come back, a 12-year serving our country.
Was there when the Berlin Wall came down, came back, took over the family business, grew it to a couple hundred employees, the kind of guy that we did in Congress.
And Warren Davidson tomorrow is going to be a good idea.
Is he going to be a new member of the Freedom Caucus?
Because we need new members.
You bet he is.
That's why we endorsed him early on in a 15-way race.
It was our first race we got involved with with the House Freedom Fund and the first big win we had.
Why isn't Jason Chavitz in the Freedom Caucus?
Why are you not in there?
I think we have this thing where sometimes it's tough for a chairman to be involved, but he's actually doing a great job as chairman of the Oversight Committee, as you know, and we work closely with Jason, all kinds of members of the Freedom Caucus, too.
By the way, is Utah going to go for Donald Trump?
I think so.
There's no way we're going with Hillary Clinton.
I'm just checking.
Yeah, that's a safe bet, Jet, Jason, at Utah.
I'll go way out on the limb on that one, Sean.
Yeah.
Yeah, but here's a more important question.
Is Ohio going to go for Donald Trump?
I think there's a good chance.
I really do.
You know, he is bringing, like Reagan did in 80.
And look, there's been positions I don't like about Mr. Trump, but we know what Secretary Clinton's like.
He is bringing that, I call him the second shift worker at Honda, and that kind of Reagan Democrat.
You see that happening.
And, of course, I've often said that, and people, this is just no surprise, that the ticket to the White House is the upper Midwest.
And I think there's a good chance.
So that's certainly the best outcome I've seen.
What part of his agenda don't you think is conservative?
I've interviewed him more than anybody.
We know his list of Supreme Court justices, the poll that he put out.
We know, you know, what part of his agenda don't you like?
No, I tell you what, let's do it the other way.
The last few weeks, there are some things that I think make a, we know the speech he gave in Louisville at the NRA convention.
We know where he's at in the Second Amendment.
We saw where Secretary Clinton is this weekend with her reluctance to answer a simple question about the Second Amendment.
We know he's much better on the pro-life and pro-family positions.
I don't ever recall Cecile Richards introducing Donald Trump at a rally, but she's done that for Secretary Clinton.
And then, as you rightly point out, the 10 names she put forward, one, of course, from the state of Utah, Mike Lee's brother.
I know, that was a good choice.
Mike Lee would have been a good choice, in my opinion.
Of course, he would be.
So all those are good reasons.
And I'm trying to tell people who weren't necessarily for Trump during the primary that, look, just look at those three issues.
Look at the Supreme Court by itself.
And that's reason enough, in my judgment, to support Donald Trump over.
How do people respond in Utah?
Because apparently he didn't do well in the primary against, he didn't do well in the caucus, I guess you have out in Utah.
How do the people in Utah seem to be reacting to him now as the nominee?
Well, I think it's the ABCs of politics, anybody but Clinton.
And I think they're rational enough to understand that.
And look, Donald Trump came to Utah and questioned whether or not Mitt Romney was a Mormon.
So that didn't go over too well, but he's starting to understand the Western issues.
His son, Donald Trump Jr., spent a lot of time out in the state.
And, you know, we got public lands issues, public access issues, hunting issues, water issues that Trump's pretty good on.
What about there was a poll that came out last week.
Nearly three-quarters of Democrats would still support Hillary after an indictment.
And then on top of that, legal experts say that Obama could be called to testify against Clinton.
Judge Napolitano made that observation as it relates to the email server.
You think it's that?
I mean, you could basically have Hillary on video shooting somebody, and Democrats will still vote for her?
I guess.
But you know what Donald Trump has done for the Republican Party?
He's expanded the base.
Look at Nevada.
There were twice as many people who voted in that caucus this year than four years ago.
And I think Donald Trump is bringing in, as Jim Jordan said, that second shift.
Why is there such opposition to him?
You know, I was watching Mitch McConnell, Jim, talk about the whole issue of a temporary ban of people from Muslim countries.
Now, ISIS has telegraphed publicly that they are going to infiltrate the refugee population.
They did it in Paris.
They did it in France.
They did it in Belgium.
They say they're going to do it here.
We have our National Director of Intelligence.
We have our FBI director, assistant FBI director, special envoy to defeat ISIS, Howe's Homeland Security Secretary, all said ISIS will infiltrate the refugee population.
And you would think, listening to Mitch McConnell and others, that this is a bad idea.
I don't think it's a bad idea.
I don't think it's a bigoted idea.
No, it's a good idea.
And that's one of the strong appeals that Donald Trump has because it's just good common sense.
And frankly, this is one era where we should have fought on the omnibus spending bill.
We should have said, look, the refugee bill that we passed is a standalone piece of legislation.
We should have insisted upon putting that on the spending bill.
Remember, the standalone bill, Sean, 47 Democrats voted for it.
Have you seen Jim Jordan as the head of the Freedom Caucus?
Paul Ryan said last week that he's got an agenda that Republicans have been working on.
Have you seen his agenda?
Well, we know that the general area is welfare reform, something that has to happen, tax reform.
We've seen those areas, health care reform.
We understand those, and the American people do.
But the American people also want just some common sense things like enforce the law, secure the border, make sure that the refugee program is safe and that it's done the way it should be done.
The bill we passed, standalone bill that the president was opposed to, those common sense things have to happen as well.
That's the kind of message we have to put forward.
And I think, frankly, again, that's part of Donald Trump's appeal on that immigration issue alone.
Congressman Chaffetz, do you think Republicans have gotten the message as you look at all the exit polls, all the numbers, that 65, 70 percent of Republicans feel betrayed by Washington Republicans?
Is that message resonating?
Do they not understand the connection between Donald Trump's ascendancy and a feeling of failure?
In totality, no.
I don't think they don't.
No, I don't.
It shows up in some of the votes.
I mean, Marsha Blackburn offered an amendment to cut 1% of one of these spending bills recently, and it couldn't even muster nearly 100 votes.
So I think there are a lot of people out there that are still.
Is Paul Ryan going to be a reformer?
In some respects, better than where we were at with John Boehner.
John Boehner gave us nearly $5 trillion in new debt when he was Speaker.
Now, you guys had the power of the purse.
Why didn't he stop it?
Well, again, I'm just going to say, Sean, the one thing I do hear from constituents every single day I'm out in the ballot is when is someone going to be held accountable for doing wrong, for violating the Constitution, violating their duty as an office holder.
And so we talked about the week, but one of the things Jason and I are working on is to impeach the IRS commissioner and say, we're going to hold you responsible for your dereliction of duty, your breach of public trust, or we're going to do something that hasn't been done in a long, long time because when something that egregious happens, someone needs to be held responsible and accountable.
That's what I hear more than anything from people across our district is hold someone accountable who's done something wrong.
think they want a vision i think they want the i want the look i don't think this is a very look Look, I think people want conservative justices.
I think they want a balanced budget, a strong military, the VA fixed.
Again, I'm going over the list that Donald Trump keeps using.
Repeal Obamacare, build the wall that everyone keeps saying.
Make us energy independent.
Get rid of education, send it back to the states.
That's an easy deal to do.
And, you know, I just think this is so basic and simple, and yet it never gets done.
Well, and look, Jim Jordan and I, and many others on the Oversight Committee, we are trying every day to hold people accountable.
But there are people that are colleagues that we turn our head to when we go to talk about impeaching the IRS commissioner.
They seem to be just fine leaving him in place.
And I just, I can't even begin to.
You know, I had Ken Terry on the program the other day.
He's Brian Terry's brother.
Remember the fast nefarious agent killed with guns provided by our government to cartels and criminals?
And you know what?
He's so disappointed that he says, you know, nothing ever gets done.
How many years ago was Fast and Furious?
No, it was like 2010.
So here we are six years later, and he doesn't have any answers.
Why did our government give guns to drug cartels and kidnappers?
We did get the Oversight Committee.
He took the administration to court.
We did get 20,000 new documents.
You're going to see some other things come about that, but we're still in court because the administration is holding back on additional documents.
It's really unbelievable how effective that either Hillary or Obama is at obfuscating the language.
They're really good at it.
Yeah.
Well, when you have a Justice Department, Sean, that's all about politics and not about justice, that's what happened.
That's the frustrating piece people see.
You know, Hillary says she wants this behind her.
This could have all been behind her if she would just give us all her emails.
But remember what happened with the email situation.
She got to decide right from the get-go.
Her and David Kendall, oh, 30,000 of these, by our determination, are private.
The other 30,000 are work-related.
She sends those 30,000 are work-related to the State Department.
They then get to screen those and say which ones they're going to give to the Benghazi.
I mean, when you have a Justice Department and people who behave this way, of course it's tough to get to the truth and actually hold people accountable.
Do you really think, how do you see this, excuse me, this election falling out?
If it's a Republican House and Senate, Congressman Chavitz, and Donald Trump is the president.
I feel like Hillary now, although I can actually get my breath back when she can't.
Do you see the positive, inspiring, conservative agenda that can fix the country actually coming to fruition?
Yes, as long as the House and Senate's doing its job.
Our job is to get bills to the president's desk.
We've got to be able to do that because I think he will sign them.
And I do think he will engage with the Congress where this president absolutely will not even have a discussion.
And it's the wrong discussion.
All right.
Congressman Jordan, what do I got to do to be a member of the Freedom Caucus?
You're already an honorary member.
We did that last week, I think.
When's my initiation?
I think Jason Chavitch should be a member.
I think even though I guess you're now in management.
While he's there in the studio, he can teach you the secret handshake.
Is there a secret handshake?
Here we go.
I guess we have a new conspiracy theory emerging about the freedom caucus.
Which there is none.
How are you getting along with Ryan?
Doing fine.
Yeah, we meet with him each week, and it's been, I think, very positive.
Who pays for the pizza?
Probably I do, the taxpayers.
It's coming right out of Hannity's budget.
Yeah, that's it.
Well, if it's not, we'll make sure they start sending you the pizza.
Listen, why not?
The IRS takes 65% of my money anyway.
What's the big deal?
What's another 15 bucks for pizza?
All right, guys.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
Prince of Signs, Latinos for Trump, Latinos for Trump.
All over the place.
And you know what?
They're here legally.
They don't want their homes taken away.
They don't want their job taken away.
They like what I'm doing.
Now, people can come in, but they have to come in legally.
On the Muslim.
But what if he was a Muslim, though?
You've been very tough on temporary Muslim immigration bans.
So would a Muslim judge be also out of the question here?
We are allowing tremendous numbers of people coming into this country that we know nothing about.
We have a problem in this country.
We are going to have big problems.
You know, I've been pretty good at predicting things, John.
We're going to have big problems.
We have people coming into this country, totally undocumented.
They don't know anything about them.
They don't have paperwork.
I've interviewed and talked to the best law enforcement people in the business.
There's no way of knowing where they come from.
And we're taking them in from the so-called migration.
They're being sent all over the country.
We have people that don't know what they're doing.
My question is: if it were a Muslim judge, would you also feel like they wouldn't be able to treat you fairly because of that policy of yours?
It's possible, yes.
Yeah, that would be possible, absolutely.
Isn't there sort of a tradition, though, in America that we don't judge people by who their parents were and where they came from?
I'm not talking about tradition.
I'm talking about common sense, okay?
He's somebody who's proud of his heritage, and I think that's great that he's proud of him.
But you're saying it's a barrier to him doing his job.
Oh, he's not treating me fair.
He's not treating me fairly.
All right, so this all goes back to, and by the way, News Roundup Information Overload Hour, Sean Hannity Show, some comments.
Oh, Donald Trump did point out about the judge in the case of Trump University.
He did.
Now, there is some notes here that the judge is not a member of the National Council of La Rossa, the advocacy group, but he is a member of La Rasa Lawyers Association.
Now, La Rossa, of course, meaning the race.
We also know about the judge in this particular case, Judge Gonzalo Curiel, that, in fact, it came to light in law news, and Jeffrey Lord picked up on this, that the law firm, a Robbins Geller, appointed by the judge to represent a plaintiff in the Trump University class action suit, has connections to Hillary Clinton.
They donated $2,700 to her campaign, the chairman of the law firm, Darren Robbins.
We also know that Robbins Geller paid the Clintons nearly a half a million dollars for speeches.
So there seems to be a conflict of interest here, certainly an argument for recusal.
And then, of course, on the issue of whether or not somebody has a bias, well, now everyone's saying, well, what about Muslims?
Would a Muslim judge maybe, perhaps not like Donald Trump's position on a temporary ban on Muslim immigration?
Well, you'd have to ask him if he heard about what the National Director of Intelligence, James Clapper, has said, and General John Allen, who is the former envoy to defeat ISIS, and our FBI director James Comey, our assistant FBI director Steinbach, our House Homeland Security chair, and of course ISIS themselves have all said they'll infiltrate the refugee population.
So it starts to make sense, but the media's first instinct is to refer to this as some type of racism.
Francisco Hernandez is an immigration attorney.
Mercedes Cohen is a legal analyst at the Fox News channel and partner at the firm Gordon Reese and probably the most killer shark attorney in the history of mankind.
Welcome both of you to the program.
Thank you, Sean.
Great to be here.
Hi, Mr. Hannity.
How are you?
You know, I don't think necessarily this has been interpreted properly by the news media.
Do you not see potentially a conflict of interest if the judge in the case is literally appointing a law firm that is so tightly connected to the Clintons?
That to me seems like a reason for recusal.
Well, who would you like to go first?
That would be you.
Oh, okay.
No, absolutely not.
From what I see, he's a federal district judge.
They're appointed for life.
Federal judges appoint law firms all the time, and law firms have people on both sides of the fence.
Absolutely nothing.
Nothing remotely.
But the judge appoints a law firm that paid the Clintons $450,000 for two speeches and made campaign contributions to the Clintons campaign.
Okay, but the judge, the federal judge, is removed from the politics.
He's paid for life.
He's got a job for life.
But that has nothing to do.
I would want a judge that was fair and balanced and objective and not connected to the Clintons.
Well, to give me something other than his parents were Mexican?
Well, I'm saying I think there's a strong case to be made, Mercedes, that this has nothing to do with race as much as it has to do with the conflict of interest.
You know, and it all boils down to what Trump's position was and his reasonable conclusion.
Whether it's people argue that it's not reasonable, it is reasonable, whatever it is, he's looking at it, he's expressing his opinion, and frankly, Every one of us here that are litigators will tell you that clients always say to, is this judge going to be fair?
Can this judge be fair in these particular circumstances?
And to your point, Sean, if there is that strong connection, of course someone looking at this from 30,000 feet will say, well, how can this be fair in these circumstances when he appointed a firm that has such close connections?
Here's something that I think is highly unusual, too.
Here's something, Mercedes, I think, is unusual.
Now, the original plaintiff in the Trump University case that, again, the judge appoints this particular law firm with all the connections to Clinton, but the original plaintiff was removed because apparently there were details that emerged that show that the plaintiff was quite complimentary at the time of the Trump University experience.
Does a judge then ever allow the plaintiffs to switch?
Oh, sorry, you're not a credible plaintiff.
Let's find one who is.
Is that common practice?
Well, no, that's a great question.
It really depends on whether you're going to have a jury that's going to decide the facts of the case or you're going to have the judge.
If you have the judge decide, then the judge can make those credibility findings.
If you have a jury, they're going to hear the two sides of it.
This is this plaintiff at a particular time saying the praises of Trump University and now switched gears, brought this complaint, and at the end of the day, what they're looking for is a big payout.
I mean, you can make those arguments and let whoever the triofact would be.
What does the word La Rasa mean?
Race.
Race, the race.
There is the National Council of La Rasa, which is the advocacy group.
They're the ones, and correct me if I'm wrong, Francisco, isn't that the group that wants to reclaim Aslan as parts of the United States and the Southwest United States that they believe rightly belong to Mexico?
Isn't that true?
Oh, there are a whole host of things.
You're probably right, but there's so much more that I would do.
Now, I don't know.
I'm not saying there's a lot of people who are not afraid of the case.
Now, the judge is not a part of that advocacy group, but he is a member of the La Rosa, the Race, Lawyers Association.
Now, they're separate and apart and not affiliated with La Rasa Advocacy Group.
But does the term the race bother you?
And is that something we should be paying attention to?
I don't think any organization from white supremacists to the Black Panthers to La Rasa ought to put race in their name or philosophy.
So the judge in this case is a member of the La Rasa Lawyers Association, so that offends you?
But Francisco, why would that be problematic?
I'm Latino-American.
Why would that be problematic if I wanted to join something that had Latino in it?
Well, the only thing is the National Council of La Rasa is very extreme, and while they're not affiliated, one has to wonder why they're using the same name.
Oh, I don't think it has any connection.
I don't think it has any connection.
It probably doesn't, but again.
And we don't even know if he was put on there as a federal district judge, a Hispanic, as an honorary member or not.
Well, the judge in the case was born in Indiana.
So the judge, to me, is an American, and I wasn't even an immigrant in any way, shape, or form.
I think what I'm trying to ascertain here is: was there any legitimate criticism?
In other words, is Donald Trump in this case being treated unfairly?
And when you look at the judge and look at the appointment that the judge made, and you look at the law firm, Robbins Geller, which was appointed by the judge in this case to represent a plaintiff in the Trump University class action suit, and they donated all this money to the Clintons and they paid him $450,000 in speaking fees, that to me sounds a little too close to the vest, doesn't it?
But here, Sean, this is Trump who expressed his opinion.
And frankly, every person that is out there who's a defense attorney, whether it's a defense attorney or plaintiff, will have that type of conversation with their clients.
The clients will always ask, hey, was the jury fair?
Was the judge fair?
Can the judge be fair in these circumstances?
It's a dialogue that happens every day, hundreds of thousands of times a day around the country, around the globe.
There's always that conversation.
What's happening here is that Trump is being vilified for expressing his opinion.
The fact that he has that opinion shouldn't necessarily be vilified.
Those are the conversations that you don't normally see here in the public airways.
He expressed his opinion.
He's being vilified.
You're right.
Well, I bet he's also a family.
So if he's being vilified, he asked for it, and he's playing it up in the media.
Also, I don't think the lawsuit about Trump University has anything to do with La Raza or the race or anything like that.
No, the judge is a member of the...
It was a fraud report.
The judge is a member of the La Rossa Lawyers Association, not the National Council of La Rossa.
But it's not a bunch of Hispanics or Latin Americans or blacks or white supremacists suing Donald Trump.
Their students sue him because they say they didn't get what they were promising.
Here's where the double standard.
Now, we saw the New York Times front page hip piece get debunked within literally 24 hours, Mercedes, and we know the double standard with the media.
Here's an interesting take.
Did you know that Bill Clinton was paid $16.5 million in a four-year period of time and that Bill Clinton personally was paid to make appearances promoting Laureate University in countries like Malaysia, Peru, and Spain?
And that there are a lot of students that have been complaining about Laureate University.
Quote, one Rio state legislator led the probe, concluded they have turned education into a commodity that's more focused on profit than anything else.
And that Bill Clinton, we have a student that's on record as saying, I feel completely deceived.
One student named Larissa Da Silva said that when she enrolled in a Brazilian branch, a Laureate, the admissions officer promised a 30% discount.
And then two years later, they took the money back.
And she felt totally deceived.
Why doesn't the media, I bet you never even heard of Laureate or the fact that Bill Clinton made $16.5 million, did you?
I never heard of it.
Never.
Nope.
Isn't that amazing?
That's because, well, it was picked up by the American thinker, the Daily Caller, Raw Story, and others.
I mean, it's the type of thing you might hear on talk radio, but the media is so fixated on Donald Trump and Trump University when the overwhelming 95% of students filled out statements saying that they liked the course and they thought it was well done.
But Mr. Marshall, this is what happens when people do lend their names out and they don't, they're not, I mean, it wasn't like Trump was actually in the university giving these lectures.
There are layers and layers below him.
Same with Bill Clinton.
I mean, anybody, any professional out there, any public figure who lends their name out to an organization, they're not there day-to-day.
So then to be held accountable for the day-to-day operations is inappropriate.
Yeah.
Unless they're in the day-to-day.
I agree.
Well, I think it's kind of standard operating procedure, but the Clintons seem to make an awful lot of money in a two-year period of time.
They made $50 million in speeches between the two of them.
There's also the connection that Laureate College was, while Hillary was Secretary of State, that literally we found through Hillary's emails that she insisted Laureate Education be included on a guest list for education policy in a dinner hosted by the State Department.
Doesn't that sound like it's a little too close to the vest for somebody who's Secretary of State?
Knowing your husband.
You wouldn't invite me to defend President Clinton and Hillary Clinton.
Doesn't that sound like a conflict of interest, though?
If she's the Secretary of State, she insists on including Laureate College, which is paying her husband $16.5 million?
Mercedes.
Well, it can certainly look that way.
I mean, there's two things here.
One is a semblance of impropriety, and then there's an impropriety.
And if you are a higher official, if you're a high official within an organization during an administration, you have to be very, very concerned about the semblance of impropriety, whether it's improper or not.
You have to walk the line in a very straight line.
You can't.
So remember, we're in politics.
It's completely different in the U.S.
But doesn't this remain a lot of people?
Aren't there a couple of issues, though, Mercedes?
Number one, the media is biased.
They focus only on Donald Trump, not on Laureate University.
Isn't that a double standard?
Number two, if Hillary's the Secretary of State, shouldn't she go out of her way to avoid the appearance of impropriety by inviting and sending emails, insisting that Laureate University be represented at this State Department dinner on education?
That, to me, is a conflict.
I think you will hear this time and time again from anyone in this country that when you have these very high positions within any administration within government, you have to make sure that there is no semblance of impropriety.
None.
No question about your actions.
No issues regarding what you do on a day-to-day basis.
No bending of the rules.
None of that.
You have to be a complete and total Girl Scout when it comes to Girl Scout, Boy Scout, however you want to phrase it, but you have to lead a day-to-day life that is not questioned.
Well, let's run Mercedes for Cloud.
Well, that's not the first one.
That's not the Clintons.
We can all agree on that.
I don't think there's any dispute there, right?
I think there's definitely some issues.
I don't know about this university, Sean.
This is the first I've ever heard of it.
Me too.
I can't see.
That's why you guys need to listen three hours a day on radio, watch one hour a night on TV.
We'll cover this on TV tonight in a way that nobody else will.
And on top of that, the violence that keeps appearing by leftists at Trump events.
I don't know if you saw the picture of Mercedes.
You see the image of that poor woman surrounded by what looked like a mob and then got hit in the face with an egg?
I did.
That was horrible.
Anyway.
All right, guys.
Good to see you.
Thank you, Mr. Hannity.
Appreciate it.
Thank you, Sean.
Always a pleasure.
Erica is in Orlando, News 96.5.
How are you, Erica?
Glad you called.
How are you?
What's going on?
I'm a Mexican Trump supporter, and I'm just very upset with everything that's going on with the media trying to push this whole racial issue on and on and on.
And recently now with Judge Curriel, I think at the end of the day, they're missing the big point what Mr. Trump is trying to make, which is, you know, he's a Clinton supporter.
He's a part or a member of the Lawyers Association for La Raza and has a record of halting illegal immigrants, which are the same people, by the way, that have attacked law-abiding citizens just last week in San Jose that were peacefully going to see a rally.
So, you know, it's just, I think what they're trying to do is really divide and conquer.
And me as a Mexican Trump supporter, I just don't think that Mr. Trump is racist at all.
Time and time and again, you have seen Hispanics that have worked for him and they have nothing else to say but that he's a good man, has never made a racial remark, and it's just upsetting that the media gets obsessed over this, but then they don't get as obsessed, you know, when you see people again being sucker punched, 15-year-olds, older people that are going to a rally in their family.
You know, that's a great point.
I mean, I got to be honest.
I mean, you see what looked like a mob of people, and we're going to get into this in great detail on TV tonight.
Mobs of people just out there assaulting, attacking violence.
And everybody's upset with, you know, was Donald Trump the most articulate in describing his frustration with a judge that he thinks is unfair?
And there's a lot of evidence that I think backs up his point that this judge might have been better off having recused himself from this case.
Yeah.
And that's just it.
I just think he's completely unfit to be able to handle a case where he's not going to be able to rule it in favor of Mr. Trump, whether or not he's right or wrong in the case.
It's a civil case.
But he will not be looking at it from a neutral perspective just because of all his track records.
So to me, he needs to be removed.
If I were to be in Mr. Trump's shoes, I would be requesting the same thing.
And I'm a Mexican Trump supporter.
I mean, I'm Mexican.
And that has nothing to do with the race.
My nationality has nothing to do with the issue that this guy has fighted with groups such as La Raza.
And that just said, you know, the media's not going to tell you that.
And I just think their agenda is that they want to divide and conquer.
They want Trump supporters to start doubting him, or maybe he's a racist.
He is not a racist.
He has never said that he hates Mexicans or Hispanics.
This word gets thrown around a lot.
And to me, it is, you know, there are real racists in the world.
There are real people.
You know, it's just like, for example, the media then immediately go, well, I mean, would you say a Muslim judge might not be fair to you?
Well, maybe because of his position on Muslim immigration and a temporary ban, that might happen, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily true.
But the idea that judges are fair and balanced across the board and politics doesn't sneak into their purview is ridiculous.
Because we're human beings, we're not infallible.
And unfortunately, everybody has a point of view, even judges.
And Mr. Trump, I mean, he's been a success, a public figure for how many years?
No one has ever raised that racial issue about Mr. Trump before, not until the last 10 months.
I ran into a guy at a local friendly's recently, a guy that worked on a lot of Trump projects over the years.
And he was telling me just the opposite.
Everything that you're saying, he was saying about all the people that he's hired, all the people that work for him, all the women, all the minorities, all the people, all the union people, and he always did it right, and he always took care of people.
And when problems would arise, he would be the guy that came in and started pointing fingers and say, fix it and get it right for these workers.
And that's quite the opposite of what you can say about the Clintons, actually.
They do have a record of being racist.
Well, we've got a Secret Service agent blowing the lid off Hillary's dark side and telling what a horrible human being she is, only reinforcing what George Stephanopoulos, D.D. Myers, and Susan McDougal has said about Hillary Clinton.
Anyway, 800-941, Sean, you want to be a part of the program?
All right.
Get back to our phones.
Bill in Fort Worth, Texas on 660, the answer or Mark Davis station.
What's going on?
How are you?
Hey, good, Sean.
A couple months ago, I called in and threw out the idea of team arrivals, and I sure appreciate how you've taken and run with it.
I think it's just the more you talk about it, the more I really, really think that's a great idea.
And the one thing that kind of of a name I wanted to throw at you and a suggestion and see what you thought that plays into that.
And I think, and it ties into the fact that I think that I watch the media and they're totally doing a hatchet job on Trump.
But one way that might be able to work around it is if he got a team that included like Carly Farina, who showed a lot of promise in attacking Hillary during the debates, if she would work with Trump, maybe another woman or two, and have a weekly education on the crooked Hillary scandals, you know, call it Crooked Hillary 101 each week, introduce and explain in detail in a way that the media will never do.
Set up a website, whatever.
You think there's any promise in that?
I think it's already existing.
I think it's just a matter of probably, you know, everyone's, you've got to understand at this point in the campaign, people are just trying to keep their head above water.
There's a lot going on.
They've got not only a campaign to prepare, a 50-state campaign, then they also have a convention, then they've got to pick that team of rivals that you're talking about and pick a VP.
And, you know, there's so much going on.
And then they have daily messaging, and then they've got media bias to deal with.
It is a non-stop, never-ending, you know, attention grabber.
And that's why people that work on campaigns, they love the adrenaline rush to a point, and then they all crash.
I've seen it happen in every single election.
So I know they're working on it, and hopefully they'll continue.
It's a great idea.
All right, back to our phones as we say hi to Samuel in South Carolina.
Samuel, hi, how are you?
And we're glad you called.
Thank you, Sarah Hison.
Want to say, fellow New Yorker, you're doing a good job.
Thank you for the show.
Thank you.
Last week, you're welcome.
Last week, I was listening to on Friday, you were talking about refugees coming into the country and coming unvetted.
And I can tell you working firsthand with refugees.
I cook for them.
I clean for them.
We house them.
These are Syrian refugees, 90% of them.
So these are Syrian refugees.
How long did you work in Sweden?
For five years, sir.
And why were you living in Sweden?
I was a non-profit worker.
I wanted to make a difference.
And seeing the conflict that's going on over there, and rather than complaining about it and seeing everything going on in the news, I wanted to take the time when I was young to go and serve these people, which I thought I could get a perspective of what's going on in the world.
And I did.
And not that I know everything, but seeing firsthand what went on there.
It's seeing the people that come into the country.
I was living in Sweden, people who are unappreciative of the.
I think it was Sweden.
I have articles somewhere in my back here.
I think it was Sweden where there was a push recently for women-only swimming pools because of, again, the Islamization of Europe and the influence of Islam has gotten to the point where women, you know, again, think of Islam.
Women have to cover.
And I actually have seen pictures of women in Islamic countries like swimming in full garb.
It's like they're swimming in their burqa.
It's ridiculous.
I actually prefer women to be swimming in bathing suits myself, but, you know, and they actually can use the same beach and the same pool that I'm using.
And you know what?
Lo and behold, I'm capable of controlling myself.
So I don't understand the idea of separate pools.
And it kind of takes away the fun of swimming if you have your clothes on.
But part of the – Short of a bathing suit, you perverts in there.
Go ahead.
Part of the point I wanted to make was the people that came in getting free money.
And in the time they're there for free, they're getting a lot of food for money, for clothing.
And then they'd go back and fight for ISIS.
That is correct.
Did you see that up front?
Do you know for sure that happened?
No, you hear rumors of people leaving.
They were sent back.
And, you know, once you, being that they're refugees, once they leave, they can never come back.
But every month you would hear reports of Swedish citizens who are formerly from war-torn areas that would leave with their Swedish passports, EU passports, and go fight with ISIS.
And they would be allowed to come back.
But we'd have to do that.
Listen, I'm going to tell you, Europe is gone.
And I keep talking about a conflict of civilizations.
Western societies battling Sharia.
It is the antithesis of everything that we believe in.
Our constitutional government would be upended if you had separate Sharia courts in America like they do in Great Britain and all over Europe or no-go zones or certain influence of the culture where women, like in Sweden, are told that they have to swim in a girls-only pool and they've got to cover while they go in the pool.
No bikinis allowed.
You know, just if you look at the fact that rape is on a rise in Sweden, if you just look at a country like Sweden, rape is on a rise in Germany and in Belgium.
In Sweden, they don't report who the assailant was, who and the person.
It's just because they're trying to be so politically correct and not offend anyone.
Listen, all that.
And it is turning it upside down on its head.
And that's the scary part.
Anyway, I got to get more calls in here.
Thank you.
800-941 Sean, you want to be a part of the program?
Let us say hi.
Big time, AJ, Houston, Texas.
KTRH, what's going on, baby?
Hey, what I'm trying to figure out is how is Lyon Hillary can call Trump a liar when we know he died and the media don't cover it.
I'm like, come on, people.
You told everybody last week about what's going on, big time, Sean.
And, you know, I'm like Muhammad Ali.
You know, when he went to 911 and he said, oh, there's a few bad apples in the Muslim races making it bad for the red.
I want to see the good ones start calling out the bad ones.
I mean, come on, we get to give up our ways for other ways.
And the media pushed their butt because we don't want to go their way.
We're in America.
This is what Trump is saying to everybody.
Make America great again.
Stop giving our ways.
And Democrats can say what they want, but we can't say nothing.
What kind of crap is that, big time Sean?
That looks like a one-way street to me, man.
I'm just, I'm tired.
And then there's nothing else.
Listen, you know, you get complaints about Laureate University.
Bill Clinton gets paid millions.
You don't hear a peep out of the mainstream media.
Nothing.
Bill Clinton, you know, I don't see front page New York Times stories on Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton's treatment of women and abuse of women and enabling of the abuse of women.
None of it.
There is a massive double standard.
I mean, Katie Couric, you know, what she did, adding eight seconds of sound is unbelievable.
Let me ask you another question.
If there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorists from purchasing a gun?
If there are no background checks, how do you prevent?
I know how you all are going to answer this, but I'm asking anyway.
If there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorists from walking into, say, a licensed gun dealer and purchasing the gun?
Well, one, if you're not in jail, you should still have your basic rights and you should go.
So if you're a terrorist or a felon, if you're a felon and you've got time, you should have your rights.
Well, the fact is, we do have statutes, both at the federal and state level, that prohibit classes of people from being in possession of firearms.
If you're under 18 in Virginia, you can't walk around with a gun.
If you're an illegal immigrant, if you're a convicted felon, if you've been adjudicated insane, these things are already illegal.
It's unbelievable.
They did the same thing.
And where's Hillary on the Muslim women so they can do go into business pieces and everything?
We don't hear that.
Well, you know what, Sheriff?
Keep up the good work, Big Daddy.
We got a lot of fighting to do, baby.
Love you, man.
All right, my brother.
God bless you, big time AJ, Houston, Texas.
Jay in California, we got a minute, Jay.
It's all yours.
Go ahead.
I'll get to the point.
38 years in newspapers and all in big markets, a small smart guy worked in Palm Beach, Florida.
Listen, you're right.
It's a distressing part of my career, going toward the end of it.
It's that it is true that there's a double standard.
I know a lot of people in journalism, big time journalists that I respect that would not deliver the kill shot on a Democrat candidate, even if they knew it, because they wouldn't want them to be unelectable.
But they would have no problem doing it with Republicans.
I totally agree with you on that.
So you've been in newsrooms, so you've seen what I've seen.
You're huge.
Yeah, me too.
I've seen it everywhere.
You know, actually, I've gone into places as, you know, either working out of a place or visiting a place, and I am looked at like, oh my God, there he is.
