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All right, happy Tuesday.
And of course, hope you all had a great memorial day.
Of course, a lot of people don't know the difference between Memorial Day and Veterans Day.
That would be Obama.
I want to say on this Memorial Day, and I see some of you out there.
How many forgot that?
Uh we haven't forgot.
Uh glad you're on board.
We've got a lot of ground to cover today, including, yes, the gorilla that was shot in Cincinnati.
We didn't get to the inspector general's report on Hillary.
We've got yet more examples of what I mean when I say journalism is dead, and that's Katie Couric.
We'll get to all of it.
I gotta say this.
I said uh do we have the cuts of me in CPAC 2015-2016.
Okay.
Now I want to just say, I said in 2015, this is when I first interviewed Trump at the CPAC stage, and I interviewed Jeb Bush, and I talked a lot about Common Core and immigration in that interview in March of 2015.
And I said at the time, I'm not going to endorse, I'm going to support the candidate.
I said it in my own speech.
And then in 2016, I said I will support the winner.
I'm not just supporting Trump now.
I the way he fought back today was inspiring in the sense that finally somebody takes on these imbeciles, these idiots, these abusively biased press people that have now for the last number of weeks been trying to take him out.
Now let me set this up.
Let me remind you, because this came up the day before I I took a few days' vacation.
What I said at CPAC in March of 2015 about the election that was just getting started.
This is my pledge to you, as somebody who's undecided.
On both my radio and television program on the Fox News Channel, I promise you this.
As somebody who has not made up his mind, I am going to give access to every single solitary candidate as often as I can, as often as they'll come.
By the end of the process, I will ask them every question I can possibly think of.
And then I am putting this all in your hands.
I said that in 2015.
I said that when there were 17 candidates or close to, I'm not sure if everyone got in at that point.
But most of them were in.
I know I interviewed Rubio Cruz, Trump, Jeb, and that was from my own speech that I gave then.
All right.
Now a year later, this year.
CPAC.
I'm consistent.
This is what I said.
The problem is at the end of this process, only one person is going to be the winner.
And what I'm worried about here tonight is that if your candidate doesn't win, that some of you are going to be angry and emotional that your guy lost.
And some of you are going to want to pout.
And some of you are going to go on TV and radio and call my show and say, I can't support that guy.
And then what's going to happen is you are giving half a vote to Hillary Rodham Clinton.
I don't care if you support Trump, Cruz, Rubio, or Kasich.
Any one of them are better than Hillary Clinton.
But this is my question for all of you here at CPAC.
Will you ask yourself in your heart, regardless of who the candidate is you support?
Will you at the end of the day?
I want to ask you, as a matter of fact, I want you to stand.
Wait, wait, don't stand yet.
I want to see in this room if your candidate doesn't win.
You know how the Republican Party made people a pledge.
Will you all pledge to support whoever wins the nomination?
If you will, stand up.
The whole room stood for the most part, except one girl that was standing off to my right who I called out as why aren't you standing?
Um we did I feel at the end of this process that we've done all of that.
I don't want to regurgitate old stuff here.
But I'm just pointing out as we look at a libertarian ticket that is now coming up, which is very, very infuriating.
And of course, you got Bill Crystal, Bill Crystal, I guess, trying to be as relevant as he can.
Now, Crystal was wrong about Trump every single solitary step of the way.
He's been wrong.
And he announced on Twitter over this holiday weekend there will be an independent candidate, an impressive one with a strong team and a real chance.
No, Bill Crystal, all you're doing is helping Hillary.
So stop making yourself a martyr because you are not.
Now, the I not only I am coming to, as I've done all these interviews with Trump.
I and the way he's fighting is something the Republican Party has not done before.
Bob Dole did not fight this way.
John McCain would not bring up Ayers and Dorn.
Barely brought up Jeremiah Wright.
They didn't want to bring up Jerry, they didn't want to bring up Reverend Wright.
That is ridiculous.
Democrats, we know their playbook.
Democratic playbook is going to be Republicans or racist, sexist, homophobic, that they want to kill grandma, throw her over the cliff.
There'll be a Trump lookalike doing that.
And the difference here is Trump is fighting back in ways that Dole and McCain and Romney never did or never would.
And I'm liking it.
I don't know if he's going to win, but I hope he wins.
I've interviewed him enough, and I'm interviewing him tonight, to know what his agenda is.
He announced his Supreme Court nominees or though the pool of people he would choose from.
He said he's going to add to that list.
He has said he's going to build the wall.
I want the wall built.
He said he'll fix the VA.
I want the VA fixed.
We have screwed our veterans.
He said he will rebuild our dilapidated military.
I want our dilapidated military built up.
He said he would support expanding coal mining.
He said he would support fracking.
He said he would support drilling.
He said he would support nuclear.
He said he'd support all the above.
He said he'd repeal Obamacare.
He said he likes healthcare savings accounts.
He said he wants to balance the budget.
These are if he did that list, America is dramatically better off than it is today.
So I'm not just supporting him.
Look, I I don't have a crystal ball.
You know, Hannity, do you think he means it?
I think he means it because he keeps saying it.
Do you think he can get it done?
If the Republicans can get their asses in gear and build a spine, yeah, we can get a lot of good things done and reverse the damage of Obama.
I think it's possible.
So, you know, we talked at length about how abusively biased our media is.
Now this, go back to the article in the New York Times, nearly 20 printed pages for crying out loud.
Every one of those women, Brewer Lane and Carrie Prajan, and even the one lady that remained critical and showed up on CNN every other day, even she even had written other things that contradicted what she was saying, and apparently had been begging and pleading for years to come back to work for Donald Trump.
So the whole story's debunked.
And then, of course, the New York Times is under fire for their phony reporting.
And then, of course, questions come out about, well, okay, what's good for the goose, good for the gander, what's good for Republicans should be good for Democrats.
They're not interviewing Juanita Broderick and Kathleen Willie and Paula Jones, even though they're relevant, they're in the news and Trump has been talking about them and others have been talking about him.
I've interviewed him.
They don't want to do that.
Now they claim they're fair and balanced.
I have no compunctions about saying to you the truth.
I am a conservative.
I'll support the Republican nominee.
And I pr and I'm gonna tell you, I love Trump's fight.
Now maybe you didn't like what he said about Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz or John Kasich or any of the other Jeb Bush.
I don't care.
He if he uses that same fight against Hillary, at least for once we'll find out if fighting and a and a legitimate agenda, positive agenda like I just mentioned works.
Because I don't think there's ever been a candidate that is defined more.
So Trump today didn't take any crap.
He went right at the news media and I gotta tell you something.
What did they think?
Did they think Trump needed the six million dollars that he raised for veterans?
Did they think he was gonna steal it?
You know, or did he do the responsible thing was okay, they raised the money and then they vetted the groups.
He gave it to a ton of them, I was twenty, thirty groups he gave money to, and they're still raising money for the vets, money's still coming in.
What did they think?
That the billionaire needed the six million dollars?
I don't think so.
So this was a manufactured story, in part because Hillary Clinton sent veteran surrogates to Trump Tower to stage a protest that was fake, phony, and fraudulent, and they manufactured an issue.
Just like they manufactured an issue about Trump and women.
Just like they won't do the same scrutiny of of Bill Clinton and Hillary's of course enabling of of the smearing and slandering of women that have been attacked by Bill Clinton.
They won't bring up the Clinton Foundation taking money from countries that treat women and abuse women and tell them how to dress and cover and tell them that they whether men tell them whether they can go to school or or work, and men say you cannot drive and women cannot vote, and women need four male eyewitnesses for rape.
Hillary never criticized those countries but took millions from the Clinton Foundation.
They don't bring up any of these stories.
And of course we've got the ladies with Katie Kirk, another example of media bias.
Well, anyway, just as you think about this, I want to point out this.
As long as the media is so interested in making sure Trump's veterans fundraiser was on the up and up.
What about complaints?
Remember the Haitian uh activists who said the Clinton Foundation stole a word they use, not that I'm making up, stole billions of dollars donated to help Haiti's earthquake victims.
Gateway pundit reported it.
Dozens of Haitian activists protested outside of Hillary's office uh over what they said were billions of dollars stolen by the Clinton Foundation and hurricane relief funds.
One activist told New York One, quote, We're telling the American people that the thirty-two thousand emails that Hillary Clinton deleted have evidence of the crimes that they committed.
In November, Haitian activists held the protest outside of Bill Clinton's Harlem office.
The activists want uh Bill Clinton to explain what he's done with the six billion collected for Haitian earthquake reconstruction.
Well, if they raised all that money, maybe the media will ask them to account for that.
Anyway, so here was Trump today.
Now this is why I like Donald Trump, and this is why I think Trump can win, is because he's not taking their crap.
And it's about time that Republicans, conservatives, get a backbone and a spine and fight like he fights.
Well, generally speaking, that's a hundred percent true.
Go ahead.
I disagree with that, sir.
I can ask you this question.
It seems as though you resist it to scrutiny, the kind of scrutiny that comes from President of the United States.
I like scrutiny, but you know what?
When I raise money, excuse me, excuse me.
I've watched you on television, you're a real beauty.
Uh when I raise money for the veterans, and it's a massive amount of money, find out how much Hillary Clinton's given to the veterans.
Nothing.
And then I see a few guys standing out there, they don't even know what they're there for.
They have no idea.
They're there because Hillary Clinton's campaign sent them.
And actually, I think it was you or one of you that found out that they actually were with Hillary Clinton's campaign, which was interesting, but I wasn't surprised.
I don't I don't want the credit for it.
But I shouldn't be lambasted.
And remember this.
So out of the almost six million dollars that was raised, not one penny did I take for administration costs.
That's unheard of.
Well, the veterans believe me, let me tell you the veterans why they believe.
And and I have one group was here that I gave is Al Baldessero here.
Maybe you want to say this is a group I gave money to.
Now I could have asked all these groups, he just showed up, I just saw him.
But I could have asked all these groups to come here, and they could have made I didn't want to do that.
I'm not looking for credit.
But what I don't want is when I raised millions of dollars, have people say like this sleazy guy right over here from ABC.
He's a sleaze in my book.
Your sleeves, because you don't you know the facts and you know the facts well.
Yeah, I think you've set a new bar today for being contentious with the press corps, kind of calling us losers to our faces and all that.
No, no, not all of you, just many of you.
All right, fine.
Enough of us.
Is this what you, David?
Is it is this what it's gonna be like covering you is.
Yeah, it is.
Let me tell you something.
I'm a I'm a person.
Okay, yeah, it is gonna be like this, David.
If the press writes false stories, like they did with this, because you know, pro half of you are amazed that I raised all of this money.
If the press writes false stories like they did where I wanted to keep a low profile, I didn't want the credit for raising all this money for the vets.
I wasn't looking for the credit.
And by the way, more money is coming in.
I wasn't looking for the credit, but I had no choice but to do this because the press was saying I didn't raise any money for them.
Not only did I raise it, much of it was given a long time ago.
And there is a vetting process, and I think you understand that.
But when I raise almost six million dollars, and probably in the end we'll raise more than six because more is going to come in and is coming in.
But when I raise five point six million as of today, more is coming in, and I and and this is going to phenomenal groups, and I have many of these people vetting the people that are getting the money and working hard, and then we have to read store probably libelist stories, or certainly close, in the newspapers, and the people know the stories are false.
I'm gonna continue to attack the press.
Look, I find the press to be extremely dishonest.
I find the political press to be unbelievably dishonest.
I will say that.
I just love that, because it's the truth.
It's sleazy, they are sleazy.
Dishonest, they are dishonest.
He said the press should be ashamed of themselves.
Uh, you're a real beauty.
Love that line too.
I love the fight.
I love that he's not taking crap from these people the way so many other Republicans do every election year.
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I'm not going to spend any time on the Never Trump movement anymore.
I'm not.
As I said early on, when it was wrapped up, I I kept my word.
I said I would give all the candidates access, a ton of it.
I did.
I gave all of them airtime.
And uh the people made a choice in record numbers.
And I like Donald Trump's fight, and I like the positions he has laid out to me.
And I am glad to vote for him for president.
You know, you got uh, let's see, Bill Crystal.
Just a heads up over the holiday weekend, there will be an independent candidate, an impressive one, with a strong team and a real chance.
Oh, the only problem is is some states like Texas, I don't think they can get on the ballot.
Donald Trump tweeted back if dummy Bill Crystal actually gets a spoiler to run as an independent, say goodbye to the Supreme Court.
That pretty much slams the lid on that.
I notice that um, you know, Eric Erickson is mad at Marco Rubio and But they all these guys made a promise.
I'm mad at the guys that aren't keeping their word.
What about them?
Doesn't our doesn't the word wouldn't they be angry if it was them?
I know Glenn Beck is, you know, he's skewered Rubio for supporting Trump.
You have no credibility with me anymore.
Then he had some author on.
I don't know exactly what happened.
Talking about some hypothetical in which a patriot, whatever.
Brad Thor, I guess was the guest.
I didn't see it.
I heard it.
I got it sent to me by a million people.
I don't know what's going on there.
Um you got this libertarian ticket.
Gary Johnson.
Is there a more boring human being on earth than Gary Johnson?
I'm sorry.
He's just he's he's like, well, I can't interview the guy.
He is so dull and so boring.
And I'm not voting for I'm not getting and you know what?
I'm not giving these people airtime.
Bill Weld, I've met, I've met him, I like him.
He's a nice guy.
Sorry, I'm not interested.
All this is is an effort to undermine Trump, and then Hillary gets elected, and they're gonna say, see, all you Trump supporters, look what you did.
And they're doing everything they can do to hurt Trump.
Everything.
It's unbelievable.
If you want Hillary to make your Supreme Court choices, then go with Hillary.
If you don't want a wall, go with Hillary.
If you don't want energy independence, go with Hillary.
If you want common core, go with Hillary.
If you want Obamacare, stay with Hillary.
If you want the economy to continue to tank, stay with Hillary, because you're going to get exactly that.
And you'll get the government you deserve.
And at that point, it's your fault.
It's not my fault.
It'll be your fault.
You know?
Yeah, you know.
All right, funny.
Um, I'm staying on let me stay focused here for a minute on this media bias issue.
New York Times, all the women debunked.
They don't go after the Clinton women, they don't go after Hillary's enabling, they don't investigate the Clinton Foundation taking money from countries that have atrocious human rights records as it relates to women and gays.
By the way, at some point, Linda, you would think that the gay and lesbian community that might disagree with me on not changing the definition of marriage.
All right, that we have an honest disagreement.
So what?
Speaking of libertarian, I don't care what people do and the privacy of their homes, it's their business.
It's not my business.
Why do I what do I want details of what people are doing in their bedroom?
No.
I'm not interested.
And most people are not interested.
And on top of that, you know, I but I'm the guy saying, hey, they're killing and throwing off roofs and stoning to death gays and lesbians from in countries where the Clinton Foundation is making a fortune.
You would think they'd support me on this issue.
I've not heard, not from one gay and lesbian group about this.
Not one.
Well, Hannity doesn't support transgender bathrooms.
He's he's a bigot.
I just think that if you have male genitalia, you go to the men's room, female, you go to the female one.
That's it.
There are little kids, other people's considerations in mind.
Anyway, so I'm I try to keep it simple.
So we have all this media bias.
Journalism I declare dead in 08.
It is dead.
You have the New York Times hit piece backfires.
New York Times exposed, not going after all the, you know, the Hillary the woman's candidate, not going after the Clinton women that uh were abused and smeared and slandered and besmirched.
They don't go after any of that.
Then you've got another let me give you another example.
Katie Kirk.
You know, you want to talk about dishonest, liberal, agenda-driven journalism under the guise of being fair and balanced.
Well, she's it.
You know, formerly a big star at NBC News.
Now she's the Yahoo news anchor.
Whatever the hell that means.
Well, what does she do?
I haven't seen her in years.
She tanked as the anchor at CBS.
She didn't do they were glad to get rid of her from the people that I know at NBC in the Today Show.
Anyway, so she's the executive producer of this anti-gun documentary titled Under the Gun.
This is something I'd expect for Michael Moore, but we all know Michael Moore has an agenda.
She claims to be a journalist.
Anyway, as Variety pointed out, the documentary came under scrutiny when it first seemed like a group of gun rights activists were stumped by her question about background checks taking eight seconds to respond.
If there are no background checks For gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorists from walking into say a licensed gun dealer and purchasing a gun?
By the way, most gun, most gun enthusiasts and second support amendment people don't mind an instant background check.
That's just a matter of course.
I buy guns in New York, I get an instant background check.
I don't know.
I don't mind waiting to five minutes, big deal.
Anyway, so audio recordings that were done by the gun group exposed her.
Virginia Citizens Defense League is the name of the group, and they revealed that they responded lucidly, coherently, and immediately, but precisely because they came across as knowledgeable, smart, intelligent, the documentary well had to make them through dishonest editing try and make them look baffled and stupid.
Now let's go to how it aired on Katie Couric's Yahoo special.
Let me ask you another question.
If there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorists from purchasing a gun?
Thank you.
Now what they did there is fascinating.
Not only did they they edited in eight seconds of dead air.
They edited it in like the guys didn't answer right away.
And then they put scary music behind it.
Now let's play the real tape that the group had taped.
I guess that she didn't even know she was being taped.
This is great.
Listen to this.
If there are no background checks, how do you prevent?
I know how you all are going to answer this, but I'm asking anyway.
If there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorists from walking into, say, a licensed gun dealer and purchasing a gun?
Well if you're not in jail, you should still have your basic rights.
And you should go.
So if you're a terrorist or a felon, if you're a felony and you've got time.
you should have your rights.
Well, the fact is we do have statutes, both at the federal and state level, that prohibit classes of people from being in possession of firearms.
If you're under 18 in Virginia, you can't walk around with a gun.
If you're an illegal immigrant, if you're uh a convicted felon, um, if you've been adjudicated insane.
These things are already illegal.
They answered in a millisecond.
I mean, do you understand how cr morally bankrupt and corrupt this is?
It's sort of like Dan Rather in 2004, you know, was an involved in this phony story that was supposed to show that Bush shirked his duties as a young officer in the Air National Guard.
The story then was a lie.
CBS was caught using sloppy reporting to back it up, and that cost rather his job and his producer her job.
In this case, you got Couric playing the role of rather, and and in this particular case, a firing should be dictated.
You know, Kevin Williamson over at NRO said that she committed an act of gross intellectual dishonesty, and if you don't fire a journalist for dishonesty, what in the hell do you fire one for?
Bad manners?
And what Couric and her team did, by the way, even me as an advocacy journalist, uh, somebody who says I'm a conservative, I hide nothing.
If I did that to Hillary, Fox, I'd have I'd I'd be fired in two seconds.
We don't do that.
You know, this is done, this is not done for journalism.
This is her ideology.
You gotta understand this.
They wanted to use this documentary not to give a fair and balanced approach to the issue of gun rights.
They use the documentary to advance the anti-gun agenda.
Because truth is support subordinate in all cases to the cause.
In this case, the liberal progressive cause.
And it's clear she wants to make news and seem so important.
Oh, I gotcha.
And she's presenting to the public a case that is blatantly dishonest to advance a political agenda, a philosophical agenda, because she's deeply committed to it.
It's just a disgrace.
Just like the New York Times is a Disgrace.
Just like the the reporters that that went in front of Trump Towers when you had Hillary surrogates out there, it's a disgrace.
That's why Trump calling out the media today was awesome.
It was great to see Republicans calling these sleaze bags out.
By the way, other news today.
Trump has been saying for months he might put blue states in play.
Monmouth poll 3834.
Within the margin of error there.
I mean, that's pretty amazing.
And it's tied nationwide.
You know, there's a lot of polls.
Oh, also Trump is leading in Oregon.
Who would have thought that?
Wow.
I mean, that's massive.
That's why I'm not spending a lot of time on the Bill Crystal idiots and some of these other people.
Um what other news do we got out there?
The FBI, uh, having a post reports the FBI's ready to indict Hillary.
Then they retracted the story.
Oh, okay.
It was too it was too honest for them, probably.
Um we have Obama administration moving to block the Hillary email gate deposition.
This is the uh judicial watch case.
We have a judicial watch set to release depositions of Hillary's top aides.
That ought to be interesting.
You have the smoking gun email that Hillary deliberately tried to hide official emails.
Politico reported this that the email released includes uh revealing the November 2011 exchange in which Clinton's right hand staffer, Uma Abedeen, aka Mrs. Wiener, discussed her with her the possibility of putting her on the State Department email because her messages were not being received by state staff.
Clinton responded with concerns of privacy issues.
We should talk about putting you on the state email or releasing your email address to the department so you're not going to spam.
And Clinton responded, well, let's get a separate address or device, but I don't want any risk of uh the personal being accessible.
She's been up to her eyeballs and hiding all this.
It's unbelievable.
You know, where's the left on that?
You know, I just you gotta love you know, Katie Curry.
You gotta love, you know, if these women didn't come out for Trump, what would the perception be today?
Now Trump's commitment to veterans goes way back.
Hey, Lauren, put your microphone on.
You found a story.
What did Trump do for the veterans with his airplane?
Uh back in 1991, uh, there were some Marines that were stranded in North Carolina, and Trump found out about it somehow, and he sent uh a plane to go get them uh twice and made two trips, took over two hundred Marines from Fort Bragg to Miami.
Yeah, I wonder how I wonder if Hillary ever did that.
She's rich.
And by the way, the centerpiece of the commission's effort in the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.
Uh it's not brick and mortar, Trump said.
He donated a million of the 2.5 million raised by the commission for that.
Oh, no one ever talked about that.
They're gonna ever investigate the other thing.
Now, I want to say one thing.
We'll get into this later in the program.
So you got this gorilla in that was killed in the zoo after this kid falls in.
And even Trump weighed in on this today, and I agree with him, and I agree with Linda and every I don't think yet you don't have any choice.
I know eyewitnesses were saying the gorilla seemed to be trying to protect the child, the four-year-old child that fell in.
Now the zoo has had to say repeatedly that if they had it to do it all over again, they'd have no choice.
They would have to do it over again.
And that's I agree with them.
They would have well, what are you saying?
What, Jason?
What do you want to say?
What?
I was just a little alarmed by some of the people who are trying to assign human uh, you know, uh human human traits to to this gorilla because they said that oh, look like the gorilla was taking care of the child, and that gorilla's still wild.
I don't care what they say, even though it's in captivity, it's still wild.
And the zookeeper said that if they hit the gorilla with a tranquilizer, that the gorilla could become unhinged.
Yeah, it could it can swipe the kid or it could it was the way it was holding the kid.
Yeah, I mean, it could have just started just waving it around.
And I understand.
If you don't kill that gorilla and that girl and that kid dies because the gorilla acts like a gorilla, a wild animal, then what what's the zoo keeper gonna say then?
Oh, I I I didn't I wanted to save the gorilla's life, so I didn't want I I hit him with a tranquilizer gun.
Everybody would be pissed you're putting the life of a a gorilla ahead of a kid.
Anyway, we're gonna get into that in the course of the program.
We also have Austin Goolsby thinks I owe him money in this Bill Ayers bet we had.
So we're gonna get into that today.
We're gonna go through the polls with Jim McLaughlin and Doug Schoen uh when we get back as well.
We got that coming up.
We got the whole gorilla issue we got it covered today.
Let not your heart be troubled.
Uh and all the other news of the day as well.
It's been a really crazy, insane news day, and I feel like when I get back, I have to get it all in.
We got an awesome Hannity tonight, including Donald Trump is going to join us.
Laura Ingram and Herman Kane are going to join us.
We're doing the gorilla story.
If you haven't seen it, we'll put that on Hannity tonight, Ten Eastern.
So we hope you'll join us at your DVR for the Fox News channel, then dopey Bill Crystal.
I'm so sick of these crybaby sore loser, pick up their toys, go home, and ruin the country in the process.
You know, never Trump people because their guy didn't win.
So sick of it.
Meanwhile, conservatives were told, oh, you got to suck it up for the team.
Support Bob Dole, John McCain.
I still think Mitt Romney would have been a great president.
I have no idea why he's gone off the rails on this.
None.
Go ahead.
Well, generally speaking, that's 100% true.
Go ahead.
I disagree with that, sir.
I can ask you this question.
It seems as though you've resisted to scrutiny, the kind of scrutiny that comes with the president of the United States.
I like scrutiny, but you know what?
When I raise money, excuse me.
Excuse me.
I've watched you on television.
You're a real beauty.
When I raise money for the veterans, and it's a massive amount of money, find out how much Hillary Clinton's given to the veterans.
Nothing.
And then I see a few guys standing out there.
They don't even know what they're there for.
They have no idea.
They're there because Hillary Clinton's campaign sent them.
And actually, I think it was you or one of you that found out that they actually were with Hillary Clinton's campaign, which was interesting, but I wasn't surprised.
I don't I don't want the credit for it.
But I shouldn't be Lambaster.
And remember this.
So out of the almost six million dollars that was raised, not one penny did I take for administration costs.
That's unheard of.
I mean, this was an amazing presser.
Anyway, 800 941 Sean, hour two Sean Hannity show, if you want to be a part of the program.
I mean, he actually said the press should be ashamed of themselves.
That vets are furious.
This on the heels of the New York Times trying to take out Donald Trump over the issue of women, it backfires.
All the women come to his defense except one, and then we discover the woman repeatedly said nice things about Donald Trump uh leading up to the sale of her book.
Totally debunked.
The media ignores Juanita, Kathleen, Paula, and other women.
Then you got Katie Kirk.
You want to know about media bias?
How do you add nine seconds of silence into an interview except to create a false narrative and impression?
It's unbelievable.
So we've got media bias.
I said in 2007 and eight, journalism's dead.
It is dead.
If you're a conservative, you're hated by the mainstream media.
If you are a liberal, you get coddled, you get preferential treatment.
The media wants Hillary elected.
You know, the difference between what I do and versus what they do, they claim they're fair.
They claim they're balanced.
They're claim they have no bias.
This is an opinion show.
Nobody, there's nobody in America if that knows anything about me that doesn't know that I am a conservative.
I don't hide the fact.
I'll say it every day.
I have said I'm voting for Donald J. Trump for president.
I said that from the beginning.
I would support the Republican nominee.
Not a surprise.
Straight up, honest advocacy journalist.
If you want to call that, if you want to call it a talk show host and all that that, you know, encompasses, that's fine.
Anyway, joining us Jim McLaughlin.
He's the founder of McLaughlin and associates.
He's the good brother, the dope Jim never shows up on time.
So we Oh, it's Jim McLaughlin.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I thought it was the good brother.
We have the bad brother.
I'm the one who's always on time.
It's Jim Sean.
No, you're the one we don't have your brothers out of town today, or else he'd be on instead of you.
We usually pick him over you every day.
He's better looking than I am, Sean.
He's better looking smarter, richer, I hope.
Now you sound like my parents.
Doug Schoen is also with us, uh pollster author, uh, also works for Fox News.
Uh welcome both of you to the program.
Doug, do you look, you know the New York Times piece was a hit piece on Trump, right?
You don't deny that.
Oh, absolutely, of course it was.
Okay.
A hit piece by a liberal newspaper, right?
Right.
Okay.
Why don't they do the same thing to Hillary?
Well, let's just say I think Hillary's from what I can tell doing it to herself, Sean.
What do you mean by that?
I mean if you look at the email scandal, if you look at the close polls in California, and if you look at the polls vis a vis Donald Trump, Hillary is in a tailspin.
Uh I don't think there's any denying that.
You think that Bernie Sanders can win California now, and if he does, what happens?
I think he can win California.
Not saying he will, but I think he can.
Yeah, I think he can too.
I mean, these polls have tightened dramatically.
Precisely.
And then there's a real question what happens at the convention when he tries to insist that the superdelegates vote the preference of their state.
There'll be an outrageous platform that Hillary cannot in good conscience tolerate, but she probably will.
And Sean, we don't know what's going to happen with demonstration.
This is a wild card.
We don't know what's gonna happen.
In other words, if I'm reading what you're saying right, is there's more disunity and discord and uh contentiousness in the Democratic Party now than the Republicans.
Well, there certainly is not full uh unity in the Republican Party, that's for sure.
But the Democratic Party is much more divided than any of us would have liked, wanted, or expected at this point.
I think poll wise, you don't first I guess Jim, you don't deny that there's a liberal bias.
I mean it's pretty transparent.
That that's just par for the course if you're a conservative or a Republican running for office, right?
Yep, and and and I totally agree with what Doug was saying in terms of it being a hit piece.
And I'm guessing the the Clinton campaign had a heads up that the uh inspector general's report was gonna come out on the email scandal, and I think they were trying to do what we call in politics, substitute divert and counter and get people to talk about something else.
So they decided too that now they were gonna, you know, go after him with women, and then now they were gonna go after him and saying he wasn't giving six million dollars to the vet, and now it appears he did give basically six million dollars to the vets.
Yeah, that b uh you know, isn't it amazing?
I've never seen anybody you know, I study martial arts.
I talk about it a lot on the program, and I've been a student now for four years.
Um now a brown belt officially, but I'm working towards my black belt.
It's gonna take a couple more years.
And in Jiu Jitsu, now I I mostly do jujitsu Kenpo, but it's sort of all it's it's it's under the banner of street martial arts, which my own sensei is kind of built his own.
He's got fourteen black belts, multiple degrees.
But one of the things in jiu-jitsu is you use other people's power against them.
Is that make sense?
Yes, no course.
In in many ways, I see every political move that Donald Trump is using, he ends up using the attack against him.
It backfires and then goes, now the New York Times is credibility is in question.
Now now their lack of reporting on Hillary is in question.
Uh now Katie Couric is toast, nobody would ever trust her again.
It seems like whatever the attack happens to be, he's able to turn it around to his favor.
And I gotta tell you, a lot of Republicans, a lot of conservatives were saying go Donald Go.
Because, you know, these are the same people and they're they were whining at him saying he don't he didn't want to be held to uh the same kind of scrutiny.
You know what a lot of people are asking right now?
Why won't she why won't she answer questions about the email scandal?
She was telling us all along that she was up front, she was being honest, and then we find out when we see the inspector general's report that the last five Secretary of States were all interviewed for that report.
And you know who wasn't?
Hillary Clinton.
You know, that was the right thing for Hillary not to do.
Because if she'd been interviewed and anything she said contravenes what she would say to the FBI or any of her public statements, she would be looking at a perjury indictment.
No good lawyer would have let her testify.
Well, I mean, that's the point though.
I mean, you've got the inspector general report on a whole series of issues where she is she's not told the truth.
She's been caught in multiple lies.
You still have Benghazi hanging out there.
Um I've gotta believe this is how I'm pretty convinced this whole email scandal is gonna play out.
I think there's gonna be a criminal referral by the by the FBI.
I think the Justice Department of Obama is not gonna indict.
I wouldn't be surprised if Comey and other agents resign over it.
And I think if that happens, it is it is the equivalent of her being found guilty.
And and I I think that scenario could very well happen.
And I think the other scandal that's out there that's not being reported on, which I think may be even more damning than the email scandal, is the whole Clinton Foundation scandal.
Because the more and more you look at it, she they received tens of millions of dollars, if not hundreds of millions of dollars, among people that wanted to do business with the United States.
They wanted favors from the Secretary of State's office, and it appears that, you know, literally the Secretary of State's office with Bill and Hillary Clinton, it was put up for sale.
It's so true, and I think the biggest scandal that I think at some point remember we were a year ahead on this program on the issue of of Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dorn before the media picked up on it.
In March of 07, I interviewed Reverend Wright.
It took a whole year for those tapes to emerge, and then everybody started talking about it.
But I had investigated black liberation theology.
So there's a lag period between what we're doing and investigating.
But if she's going to be the woman's candidate, and she's taking money from all these countries that practice Sharia law and women are told how to dress, they can't drive, they can't vote, they can't go to school, they can't go to work without a male male's permission.
They can't even leave the house in Saudi Arabia without a male relative, and she is not on record criticizing these practices, the abuse against women, and she can't I think when that comes out, that's gonna be a big scandal.
And then the quid pro quo aspect of the Clinton Foundation, people are gonna be asking, okay, they gave you this money, what did you give them in return?
Yep.
And I don't think there's any question about that.
And and it's like I said today, you know, you can say whatever you want, whether you disagree or agree with Donald Trump, but I'm watching that press conference, it's must see TV.
And one of the things I've talked about, there's a serious performance gap between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.
When Donald Trump does a press conference, he's on offense.
He's not on defense.
Yeah.
And and Hillary rarely talks to the press.
She tries to control it, but even when she tries to con control it, she always seems to be on the defensive.
And it goes to Doug's point where he's saying, you know, she's doing a lot of damage to herself because I was having this conversation with somebody before.
What is Hillary Clinton's message?
Donald Trump has a message.
He wants to make America great again.
Her message is there's an electoral lock.
18 states reliably democratic, 242 electoral votes, and she's basically trying to get a core democratic vote to win the election.
Okay, but here's here's a I agree that the electoral map totally favors Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.
But then you gotta look at a poll that came out today, Monmouth University, and in the state of New Jersey, it's thirty-eight thirty-four, pretty much within the margin of error.
Clinton barely with a lead in New Jersey over Donald Trump.
Now, swing states like Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, they are very close as well.
And Virginia also is very close.
So I saw a poll over the weekend that was showed it was tied.
So now if any of these scandals get any traction, I've got to believe that her numbers go down.
If she goes solidly left at the convention and that gets highlighted, I've got to believe that that hurts people in the middle, the independence she's trying to get.
Yeah, and and one of the things we're seeing in these battleground polls is on the most important issues of the d of the day, the economy and jobs, national security, immigration, health care.
Voters actually believe on those issues that Donald Trump is actually better than Hillary Clinton on those issues.
And I think that's a big advantage here.
So then Jim, tell me the states that you think he could win or will win that would get him to 270 electoral votes.
And and you know what?
I think I think Doug's exactly right.
He's she is playing the conventional uh electoral map game, but you don't want to play that because this isn't a a conventional elector.
And I don't think there's any question.
Look, for any Republican to win, and I'm sure Doug would agree with this, the Republicans gotta win Florida and Ohio.
But I think there are some other states that haven't been in play for a while for Republicans that quite honestly Donald Trump can do well in.
I think he can do well in Pennsylvania.
The Quinnipia poll showed it a dead heat.
I think he can do well in Wisconsin.
I think he's gonna I think he can do well in Michigan.
There's a poll that just came out in Oregon where the race was a dead heat.
No, he was actually winning in Oregon.
Yep, yep.
Within the margin of and New Jersey, same thing.
I mean, if I'm Hillary, and I look let's put it this way if Hillary has to spend money, let's say in Oregon, Washington, Wisconsin, uh, Michigan, New Jersey for crying out loud.
I'm not sure if New York will really get in play, but you never know.
Um it's a state that elected George Pataki.
It could it, you know, with the r under the right circumstances, Maybe that's in play.
If she has to shore up those states, she's in deep trouble.
Yep.
No, no question about it.
And one of the things we saw in our most recent national survey was she's struggling.
She's not only struggling to put back together the Obama coalition, but she's got significant negatives among those voters.
Among African Americans, a quarter were unfavorable to her.
More than forty percent of Hispanics were unfavorable to her.
She was a majority of millennials were unfavorable to her.
And that's all argues for a two billion dollar assault by the Democrats and Secretary Clinton against the Republicans and against Donald Trump on themes Sean.
You and I know Jim are very familiar with.
Right and true.
And Doug, let me ask you something.
How much positive do you think Hillary Clinton is going to be able to do?
Will it be effective?
And should she be doing positive?
Well, you've asked three questions.
Will she do it?
Probably not much.
Will it be uh effective?
Probably not much.
And would I do it myself?
Probably not at all.
So you think that Hillary can lose, Doug.
Oh, of course she can lose.
Pretty obvious she can lose.
I mean, only a blind man would say.
Well, there are Democrats that literally, if you had the Clintons on tape shooting people, they'd say, Oh, well, the guy deserved it, even if they shot him in the back.
They they'd come up with some excuse.
No, listen, it is I would rather be a Democrat in terms of the the electoral map.
I think the electoral map favors you by a long shot.
It does.
But if you can put New Jersey, Wisconsin, Michigan, Oregon, Washington State, and and other states in Pennsylvania and play, it's a whole new ball game.
We will see, but uh she will fight a fifty state campaign and so will Trump he needs to do.
I understand that.
And if she's got to spend uh ten million dollars, thirty million dollars, fifty million dollars in New Jersey, she's in trouble.
She is, but you know what?
The Clintons have come back from adversity.
Listen, anybody that tells you they know the outcome of this election is out of their mind.
You have no care.
Does he do too well?
He takes good hair.
He takes all care from 27.
I'm going too, but not because the gun isn't the same thing.
This guy Oh my god, okay, Brian Gumble.
What is it?
Okay, Brian Gumble, what is your black?
Go back to Mexico!
Go back to Mexico, fool!
You like it so bad, go back!
Why are you here?
Does it concern you that did the police need to be here to maybe protect people like your son from this crowd?
They can have their voice, but the fact is that that doesn't give you the right to be violent or disrespectful.
Why are you throwing eggs?
Why are you guys throwing eggs?
Why are you saying that?
All black people looking like niggas.
No, no, I got you a video.
You throw an egg.
That's your video.
I got you.
Is that civil disobedience to throw eggs?
All right, that was some of the protesting that went on in San Diego last week at a Donald Trump rally.
Uh filmmakers Jeremy Segal and uh Andrew Marcus.
Uh Jeremy is a filmmaker, founder of the website, RebelPundant.com, Andrew Marcus, documentary filmmaker, who produced and directed hating Breitbart.
They were at the Trump rally in San Diego on Friday.
They spotted, they captured on film people from the network telemundo helping to coordinate and stage the protests.
Now, this is not unlike what happened in New York City when we discovered that Hillary Clinton and her surrogates got some veterans and they admitted to it, were protesting outside of Trump Tower.
Now, of course, Donald Trump held the press conference earlier today, and in that press conference, he said, okay, here's where the close to six million dollars is going.
Uh what did they think Trump was going to keep the money?
He was vetting the groups, which is what a responsible person would do.
Anyway, it's pretty unbelievable, it seems coordinated.
Now, all of this now is on the heels of what happened with the New York Times.
New York Times does a big hit piece on Donald Trump that gets debunked in a matter of two days.
But of course, they ignore Juanita Broderick, Kathleen Willie, and Paul Jones.
Um then we have Katie Kirk.
Katie Kirk caught on tape.
You literally adding a nine-second pause, like this gun advocacy group had no answer.
Except they were recording the same interview and they answered right away.
So that's how deceptive.
What did I say in 2007, 2008?
I said journalism is dead.
Telemundo is biased.
Katie Curric is biased.
The New York Times is biased.
They have agendas.
As a matter of fact, most in the media have agendas.
We have poll after poll that comes out every election year that shows journalists eight, nine to one of voting democratic.
And many of them have even been caught donating.
Look at George Stephanopoulos, a Clinton hack.
Go watch the war room.
He's now the key interviewer on Good Morning America, all things politics.
He's not going to probe deeply into anything that involves the Clintons that would hurt their campaign.
Now some of you will say, Well, Hannity, you said you're voting for Trump.
Yeah, I said I'd vote for the winner, and he's the winner, and I've the more I've thought about it, the more enthusiastic I am if he's going to fulfill that agenda that he's outlined to me in every interview I've had.
Anyway, here to shed more light exactly on what's happening and what happened in San Diego is Jeremy Siegel and Andrew Marcus.
Uh guys, welcome back to the program.
Thank you, Sean.
Hey, Sean, thanks.
Jeremy, let's start with you.
Let's first talk about this Telemundo journalist caught on video staging the protest.
What exactly did you see?
Um this is something we we it's not new to protests or media, Sean, as you know.
Um media is biased, and actually my personal problem in the late great Andrew Breitbart's personal problem wasn't necessarily with media bias, but it was with media bias that was not admitted.
It was covert, it was conveying the perception that you're unbiased and that you're a neutral reporter.
And here actually Andrew caught this Telemundo cameraman, and he can tell you a little bit more about it staging a shot.
Well, I want to explain the protesters and showing them how to hold the flag.
You know, Jeremy, I meant to tell you this.
You do your voice sounds a lot like Andrew's.
It's kind of amazing uh to me.
All right, so Andrew, here's the thing.
You said, is that the media staging a shot?
Is Telemundo staging a shot?
And then the camera guy from Telemundo said, uh, probably tell us what happened.
Yeah, he he was not shy at all about the fact that he was staging a shot.
What was happening at the time, Sean, was uh uh Trump uh supporters, people who were attending the event, the event had let out, and all the people who came out of the event, they're basically they come out of the event and they're in the middle of a mob, and as uh people these Trump supporters were trying to leave, they were being chased down the street by these people carrying the Mexican flag and shouting at them.
And right as that happened, uh a Telemundo reporter jumped in, stopped these people from basically from chasing these other the Trump supporters, but that wasn't even his point.
His point was to get them to stop so they could kneel down, pose, and hold the flag.
Now, to me, that look if he if he sees them doing that, and he gets a shot of that, that's news gathering.
When he stops them and poses them and then adjusts them because they're not a big thing.
No, that that's like a choreographed.
That's like a choreographed protest.
It's choreographed by the media outlet itself.
It's not like Absolutely.
You know, maybe I can understand the protesters purposely seeing cameras.
They usually act differently when cameras are around.
We all know that.
I've been there, I've seen it, but this is now the network getting them to pose.
It's the it's the difference between capturing the news and manufacturing the news.
And he didn't even it didn't even register for him that that was a problem, that this guy was manufacturing news.
Now you also caught people on tape throwing eggs.
You confronted them on camera.
Why are they throwing eggs?
Uh people grabbed your camera.
You got into a bit of a scuffle.
What happened?
Yeah, I mean, this is part and parcel for almost every one of these events that we go to.
The uh the the Trump event lets out.
Everybody streams out into what is an awaiting angry mob.
And it ends up being the setup confrontation.
And every single time it's the same way.
The the the anti-Trump protesters confront the Trump supporters.
It gets heated, it gets ugly, and then they start throwing things.
You know, uh, everybody's cameras are generally pointed right towards the middle of the conflict.
We've been to enough of these to know that's not where you want to look.
You want to turn around towards the anti-Trump protesters and wait for them to begin acting violently.
And that's what I did and captured throwing eggs, throwing other things at people at Trump supporters.
They were egging Trump supporters.
What about you getting you got somebody spit in your face?
What happened?
Oh, sure, yeah.
That was one of the people who was posing for Telemundo.
They were they were not none of these people are happy when you actually begin to confront them on what it is you're witnessing.
They must be very used to nobody doing that.
And so when you ask them, you know, why are you doing this?
What is happening here?
You're met with a very angry response.
They grab your they grab my camera, they threaten to hit you.
That you know, one of the people that was posing spit on me.
This is very, very common for these events.
It's a very uh ugly and uh uh uh a group on the verge of violence pretty much at any moment.
It's really scary.
I mean, here you're just trying to do your job.
You capture them and you see how orchestrated it is.
Now, by the way, there are kids going to these Trump rallies.
There are mothers going to these Trump rallies.
There are grandmas that go to Trump rallies.
Uh they deserve better than to be spit at and have things thrown at them like eggs or other things.
You know, I I kind of accept it that's it's part of the risk of what I do, but it's not fair for people to have to live through that because they support a particular candidate.
It seems like they're trying to intimidate in a in a pretty significant way, Jeremy.
Sean, this is nothing new.
We've been documenting this for quite a few years now.
Going back to Chicago teacher strike and the Madison Union protests, they come out and these you know, they're you're treated with hostility because the media that the protesters are used to, and by the way, they're never peaceful.
They are the the protesters are the actu they play the role of the news producers.
And the camera guys come out and film where they tell them to film and film what they want them to film and get the sound bites that they want them to get.
They're not they don't get questioned by people, by by other people with cameras and other reporters.
And when they do, their violence, you know, in that's that's the nature of the whole protest is exposed.
And they don't want you to expose that because they want you to think that they're out there exercising peaceful, nonviolent civil disobedience.
It's anything but I mean show it's the very core of their protest actions are are violent and directing violence at people who disagree with them.
And you c you chronicled this, Marcus.
I mean, when, for example, the police, which had to come out in force, when they were out there and they were doing their job, then the chant became among the protesters, F the police, F Donald Trump, and also you captured a protester with a sign that read, If Trump wins, he'll be dead within a week.
The cartel won't have his BS.
Right.
They're look, their violence is on display, and it really is an indictment on mainstream media who refuse to show what is clearly on display.
You know, people think, wow, we're so brave, we go out there and we and we get right in the middle of this.
Look, anybody could do this.
Anybody can go into this crowd, turn on your camera, point it at them, and hit record, and you will get it for yourself.
It is so blatant and so violent, it boggles my mind that mainstream media somehow they go to these events and all they see are the prepared sound bites that they're given by these organizers.
Now, as I understand that you guys have uh both gonna be on Hannity tomorrow night.
We're gonna show I think some of the video tonight, but we're really gonna tear this down uh when you guys are on the show tomorrow night, and I look forward to having you both on.
I uh are you guys in for tomorrow?
Absolutely.
Sure, no problem.
We really appreciate it.
I'm sorry that you had to go through what you went through just to report a story, and you are really helping people, I think that may still have some uh degree of trust in the media.
I don't know why they would, but you're showing them just how corrupt the media is, and uh it's it's not easy work, it's dangerous.
Thank you both.
Thank you, Sean.
Thanks, Sean.
800 941 Sean, toll-free telephone number.
You want to be a part of the program.
All right, let's go to uh Sharon is in Binghamton, New York.
Sharon, hi, how are you?
We're glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
Oh, I'm doing fine.
I just wanted to weigh in on this fundraiser comedy because I think there's quite a few things people are forgetting.
The fact that Mr. Trump pulled together a televised fundraiser in less than seventy-two hours, collected the money, and dispersed it in under four months, it's absolutely amazing.
And they should be giving him credit for it instead of undermining and marginalizing it with these stories that you know the WP has been putting.
Let's say that Trump Trump gave the money out the next day.
Let's just assume well number one it's absurd that Donald Trump wants to you know he doesn't need the money.
Let's be honest.
Right.
Okay.
Let's say he gave the money out in a in a very short period of time.
He didn't do any vetting as it relates to the money and it went to a group that had some questionable finances.
What would the story then be?
Oh Trump has no uh ability to vet these these organizations and he gave it to a corrupt group run by a corrupt so and so qualified.
Yeah exactly it shows he can't be president you can't win for losing here and really can't you know look I gotta be honest I experienced a little bit of this myself um and I d you know I I never ever and I can sympathize with Trump in this way.
I never ever want to highlight something that I do the Bible actually says you don't do that.
And so it's kind of biblical for me if you do nice things for people.
Exactly I don't want to go out boasting about it.
You don't I gave over a million dollars to military charities out of my pocket.
For the freedom concerts I spent almost that much money in terms of paying for planes and hotels and and all sorts of other expenses involved with it.
I had to like have people send out a press release that I did it because I was being accused of pocketing money I paid for every meal.
I paid for every plane I paid for every hotel I paid for everything.
And you know what it makes you know what it does it makes you say why am I bothering you know exactly and it's such a horrible thing to be accused of doing something like that that it's it's deflating.
It really is and I I experienced it in my life I didn't like it.
It wasn't true.
It was a lie somebody writes it on a crazy website and that's enough for it to go viral.
It's unbelievable.
It's unbelievable and then you have to say oh I gave this amount of money then you sound like you're bragging then you sound like you know you want credit.
I didn't want any credit I didn't want to talk about it.
So frustrating secretary your lead in the polls and your lead in the polls arguably might be a lot bigger if you didn't have these honest and trustworthy issues with voters and we've talked about this before but yesterday's State Department IG report was pretty scathing.
Um and it seemed to contradict many of the things you said about the emails.
You accept everything that the State Department IG report said about your practices as fact well Chuck the report makes clear that personal email use was the practice under other secretaries of state and the rules were not clarified until after I had left but I I've said this many times it was still a mistake.
If I could go back I do it differently and I understand people have concerns uh about this but I hope and expect voters to look at the full picture of everything I've done and stand for and the full threat uh posed by Donald Trump.
Uh and if they do I have faith in the American people that they will make the right choice.
I have faith in the American people that they will overcome their belief that I am a liar, dishonest and untrustworthy Hillary Clinton.
All right joining us now well he's actually part of the uh a group of people former Obama economic advisor professor at Chicago's Booth School of Economics chairman of former chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors for Obama that gave us the worst so called recovery if you even call it that in the history of recoveries and we now have millions of more Americans on food stamps in poverty.
We have one in six eighteen year old males in this country either in jail or out of work.
We have one in five families that don't have a single member of their family in the workforce at all and we've had this president will accumulate more debt than every other president before him combined and he said nine trillion dollars in debt was irresponsible and unpatriotic.
It's always a pleasure to welcome back Austin Goolsby how are you?
You lost me at hello Sean I did but I am I am getting excited in a tough economic environment for do you want the wire instructions or do you want to mail me a check or how do you want to settle your own debts that you have accumulated.
Now this is an argument that goes back to hang on hang on a second multiple debts.
No not multiple debts because Obamacare is going to decline of its own weight and it's gone.
You're gonna lose that one.
So here's the de here's the thing that we had.
So I had you on the program and I played a prank on you.
And the prank was on the air and I said, Oh my gosh, did you see the news about Donald Trump?
And you're like, no, what happened?
I said, just before he announced he was he was upstairs in his office.
It turns out he's best friends with a with a domestic terrorist who bombed the Pentagon, the Capitol and New York City police headquarters.
He met with him just before he announced he's running for president, and he won't denounce the guy, and uh it looks like his campaign is over.
And you're like, oh my gosh, I didn't see this.
I was teaching all day.
And of course I was describing what do you not feel bad?
I believed you.
You told me something, and I wasn't I wasn't incredulous at all.
I was like, if Sean Hannity told me, it must be true.
And then I said to you, that you know, wouldn't that disqualify anybody from being president?
You're like, wow, I can't believe it.
Are you serious?
I'm like, it's all over the Drudge Report.
What are you talking about?
And um so anyway, and of course it would disqualify somebody, except I was talking about Barack Obama, and of course he sat on boards, gave speeches with, and was uh started his political career in Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn's home.
They're unrepentant terrorists, part of the weather underground.
That is not what the weather underground that bombed ever asked him about that.
Excuse me.
What I said was the only person in the mainstream media that asked him that question was George Stephanopoulos.
I stand by that today.
And so what are you talking about?
I finished I found the transcript from the Tom Joyner radio show.
Tom Joyner, I think he's the guy, if I'm not mistaken, that remember the girl that lost her arm?
I think it was Tom Joyner that that played biting whitey, that guy?
Like it when did he become a part of the mainstream media?
He's one of the biggest African American radio hosts in the country.
Listen, he's a very talented guy, but he does some absolutely insane things, including what if I remember it was his show.
I'll double check it.
But uh, you know, Bethany Hamilton was the girl that lost her arm.
Now uh you're literally trying to compare Tom Joyner and some other guy.
Hang on and some other local obscure host you're trying to obscure hosts, he's one of the biggest African American radio.
And you're trying to claim that was a question that he was asked by a friendly interviewer.
Now you're not friends with this guy.
You got Stephanophilos onto this situation, and all of the people Sarah Payne raised it, why he was asking him.
I'm saying the mainstream media.
I'm talking about one of the biggest African American radio hosts in the country, not mainstream media.
Okay, let me just point this out.
If you think George now, George, you got to admit I did a great job with George Stephanopoulos getting him to ask that question.
I really did, right?
I set that up on a T. Yeah, the next day.
Right, because I'm the one that pushed the story.
He had to answer the.
I am so proud of the fact that I got anybody to ask that question, but he was not asked by another major mainstream interviewer about that question.
Now, you know, if you go to the transcripts got a major mainstream interview, no, well, well, I guess we're debating he was on a friendly interview show.
Says they had to have like a whole press conference where they came out.
No, they addressed the issue of Jeremiah Wright in a big speech in Philadelphia.
They didn't address the issue of Bernadine Dorn and Bill Ayers.
Now, in the interview, oh, Mr. Ayres is some guy that lives in the neighborhood.
He gave the same stupid answer because it was a pre it was not a mainstream.
You've been met you have been spending time talking to Donald Trump.
I'd have to do that.
I'm voting for him for president.
Get out of your bet by No, I'm not getting out of my bet.
You're gonna change that oh, you thought he gave a stupid answer eight years ago.
Tom Joyner is one of the Biggest radio Hannity's size, but he's a huge radio host.
Okay.
He's not mainstream media.
No, what he did was he had a deal with Obama.
Let's put this issue beside us.
And he let Obama lie about the nature of the relationship, because I actually looked at the stupid text obscurely.
If you find it, where did I find it where did I find this?
This was reported throughout the news.
I sent you articles about it.
Oh, you're you are absolutely You know what this is like with t arguing with you?
This is like arguing that we have millions more in poverty, millions more in food stamps, we have median income down, a doubling of the national debt, one in six Americans, uh males eighteen excuse me, I'm finishing.
Hang on, I'm not done.
I'm not done.
18 to 34 in jail or out of work, and one in five American families have nobody working, and you always tell me, Oh, the economy is great.
You are delusional if you think this is a mainstream media.
You get there, and it's like, yes, the map shows it.
That's where you how you get there.
You you're insane.
You're insane.
You're insane.
You owe me money.
No, I paid you I only waited.
We had a bet, but that would have been we had a bet back in what year did we bet?
Two thousand and twelve?
I owed you dinner.
I owe you a roots Chris dinner.
Two thousand twelve election.
What was that about?
I I did end up paying.
All right.
Uh listen, if you if you really are gonna claim this obscure friendly hang on.
Wait a minute if you really are gonna claim that this obscure supporter of Obama interview because he endorsed Obama is somehow the equivalent of the mainstream media, because my point was the mainstream media short of George Stephanopoulos, never asked him again about Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn.
If you want to claim some obscure radio show that has very controversial content that is not mainstream in any way, is somehow the equivalent of ABC, CBS, NBC, the New York Times, the Washington Post.
If you are that desperate for money, I'll give you the money.
You can have it.
I'll take the money that you owe me.
No, I don't owe you that.
But if you're that desperate, I'll give you a gift.
I know you're a liberal, you like free stuff.
He's one of the biggest bouncers.
I was very clear in saying the mainstream media did not ask him again after I fed the question to George Stephanopoulos.
I stand by that.
Okay.
And just because this guy's mainstream.
No, he's not.
Sarah Palin herself forced the campaign.
But Sarah, I that wasn't my point.
My point was the media.
No, my point was absolutely correct.
She gave an entire speech about it.
Right.
And they had to address it and got up and gave an entire either press conference or presentation about it.
Okay, can I finish now?
That was not my point.
My point was you can't find the mainstream media asking him again, and they let him off the hook.
And my point was that if Donald Trump or any Republican ha was friends with, started their political career, sat on boards with, gave speeches with a guy that bombed the pen was part of a group that bombed the Pentagon, bombed New York City uh police headquarters, and bombed the the Capitol, that that Republican candidate would have been asked by every major network.
Your answer is so pathetic and so weak.
And so flimsy to change the subject positively Trumpian, in which you told me there were no mainstream media.
That's right, and I stand by that.
And then I found one of the biggest radio announcers.
No, you found an Obama.
No, you found an Obama like the guy you found an Obama disciple.
You found an Obama disciple trying to defuse it for him.
He's pressed him on this.
Okay.
He didn't press him on anything.
That's not it.
Mr. Ay, this is what Obama got taught.
This is what Obama said to Tom Joyner.
Mr. Ayers is somebody who lives in Chicago.
He's a professor at the University of Chicago and teaches education, and uh he engaged in these despicable acts forty years ago when I was eight years old.
I served on a board with him.
Okay, but the point is, why didn't CBS, MBC, ABC, or the New York Times, or the Washington Post, or any other major mainstream paper.
Listen, I can go listen, I can find that question was on the DC.
That's who was reporting it.
Yeah.
By the way, this is this is the guy that you say is mainstream.
Let's play it.
A shark just bit me.
Wow.
The building.
Stay out the water white people.
Shop won't bite you.
That's why he keeps on.
Keeps on biting white.
Ooh, the shop bites.
He bites White.
Right.
He keeps on.
Say it, Mark.
Biting white.
Oh, that chunk bites.
He bites White.
Right.
And he keeps on biting white.
Take it down.
Oh shot.
This was white.
All right, I think we get the point.
Now that was on that show.
Now I got a question for you.
Are you going to make the case that a show like that, this was a 13-year-old girl that had her arm bitten off?
Excuse me.
Let me finish.
The thirteen-year-old.
Are you gonna claim that show is mainstream?
That episode of the show?
Tom Joyner.
That episode of the show.
Excuse me.
No, no, no, no.
Stop out.
Stop off you skating.
Reputable media figure.
I you don't hear me talking about, you know, making fun of a girl that had her arm bitten off by a shark.
Controversial.
That happens to be white or black.
What is it different?
A young girl lost her arm for crying out loud.
You think that's mainstream?
Yes or no?
What what is that?
Do you think that show is mainstream?
The show is mainstream.
That episode, that sniffing trying to make a joke that's relatively offensive, I think.
Let me ask you a question.
If I did that about any race, would I be working today?
I don't know.
Have you done something like that?
No, I never would.
Do you think I told you if they come for you and throw you in jail?
I'm not talking about throwing in jail.
I don't care what any well, bring a cake with a file.
But I'm not asking.
You are call you want to make your case that that is a mainstream news outlet.
My case is based on how many bigger.
All right, I'll tell you what we'll do.
I'll put on Hannity.com.
Is it a mainstream?
I'll put on Hannity.com a poll whether or not that is mainstream.
A mainstream show.
Now you're changing the subject.
Is it a mainstream?
He was an Obama supporter.
That snippet was mainstream.
Oh, that snippet.
Oh, you mean that snippets.
What if Peter Jennings ever did that?
Or George Stephanopoulos ever did it or or Tom Brokaw ever did it.
Oh, that makes all the difference.
Oh my God, that makes all the difference in the world.
But how can you tell me he's not a mainstream radio figure?
He's a big one.
By the way, I was nominated to be in the Hall of Fame this year, as a matter of fact.
I doubt I'll win, but I've, you know, I was nominated.
It's nice to be nominated.
You were nominated for the Hall of Fame.
That's my point.
I'm not saying I didn't say that.
But I don't say things like that.
I don't laugh at little girls.
I don't laugh at a little girl that has her arm bitten off.
I don't think it's funny.
No, and neither do I. I just did, and you're calling that mainstream.
I am calling his program mainstream because he won a national social media.
I need a drink podcaster's Marconi Radio Award.
I'm looking at it right here.
Okay, and I won two.
And I I won multiple Marconi radio awards.
So thank you very much.
Big deal.
I gotta go.
No, I'm not no, no.
We're gonna continue.
I'll put a poll up on my website, and if people vote, I owe you the money, you'll get the money.
If not, too bad for you.
Do you have a website?
We'll put it on your website.
This is crazy.
Yeah, exactly.
You thinking that's mainstream is crazy.
Goodbye.
This isn't about Trump.
I gotta go.
Why do I still like this guy?
We talked a little bit about it earlier in the program.
There is a vigil that will be held.
Well, I guess it's being held now at some point, uh, in front of the entrance of the Cincinnati Zoo to honor the memory of the 17-year-old lowland gorilla Harambi is the name.
It was shot and killed by Cincinnati Zoo personnel.
A little child fell into the gorilla exhibit on Saturday.
And um, this is an action in response of a senseless death.
There's so much outrage being expressed by people, and then other people have actually turned it into a race issue.
Which is bizarre to me.
No, I swear I have it right here.
It's it was on Brightbart.
People are are putting comments on Twitter about it.
Now, there is video footage of this.
We'll show you on Hannity tonight.
400 pound gorilla.
Some people say, well, he was he was witnesses say he was acting protectively towards the child.
And the zoo director confirmed the boy was not at that moment under attack.
The zoo director said that Harambi, if they in fact used a tranquilizer, that it would have disoriented the gorilla and put the child at risk, and that they had no choice.
And so even looking back now, we would have made the same decision.
Now, I understand that maybe it seemed to people like Ombre was was trying to protect the child.
I totally understand that.
But in a second, a gorilla like that could kill a child.
So I think I agree with the zoo director.
It's tragic.
It's unfortunate.
I I think the main question we've got to ask is how is it possible for a little child to fall into this area?
That's the safety issue that I'd be most concerned about.
And and if it's four years old, where's where are the where are the parents?
Um I know people are blaming the parents.
I look, I just I I give a little slack there too, having raised two kids because you know, at two seconds you're holding on to your child's hand.
There's not a single person in your studio that agrees with you.
Yeah, I know, but but here's the reality, Linda.
Unless you're gonna put your kid on a leash, you're holding their hand, all of a sudden next thing you know, you turn for two seconds.
Two seconds.
First of all, if you have a four-year-old child in a public environment, okay.
I'm just saying.
I know my mother had three kids, and she always had her eye and her hands on all of us.
Either we were all holding hands or she was holding to both hands, and I was in front of I mean, everybody was connected.
Why are you demanding this these people should be sued?
They should they should have their child taken away from them.
They should have a bar of their kids taken away from them because the kid did not fall in.
Right, hold on a second.
You got a baby.
Hold on a second.
Hold on, let me finish.
All right.
This kid had to go through under a fence, through a under a moat, uh, through a fence, had to fall 15 feet.
I know.
And the woman never saw another woman at the zoo who happened to see, went over to the mother and was like, excuse me, I think your child just fell into the frickin' gorilla moat, and she's like taking selfies.
How many?
Now, the parents have a criminal background.
The father's a drug trafficker.
I understand.
These sound like outstanding people.
I say sue him for all his drug money.
How here's the question though.
How many other kids did they have with them?
I didn't see that.
Listen, he has four kids by this woman, they're not married.
I don't know how many kids how many kids he has in total.
Look, the only thing I'm going to say, and I agree with you at the end of the day, you've got to keep your eye on your kids.
That is your only job, especially when you go to the zoo.
And so right of it, yeah.
I took my kids to every zoo we used to go to.
I remember we were traveling around the country a lot, and I took my kids when they were young with me.
You know, my kids were embarrassed because we go by the seals and I go, er, or you know, I'd sit there like an idiot and make noises for every animal.
Um it is it can be a day.
And going through Disney is the worst.
Do you think that one of your children would have been able to climb under a fence through a gate under a moat and fall 15 feet, and you have to be alerted by another person?
And if you're taking a selfie, that makes it twice as bad.
I don't know if they were taking a selfie, but you know, I'm just making the point.
But the thing is, but I but I can imagine this scenario, and I'm I'm again, I'm threading a needle here because I really believe the parents are at fault for not having their eyes on them.
But I can thread a needle and I say, because we weren't there, and sometimes, sometimes, like when you go to a grocery store, I've had this happen to me.
You know, my kids um I'm shopping, and then all of a sudden you turn around and I'm like, all right, where the hell are they?
In two seconds.
I totally agree.
Kids are fast, and they and the father said, he goes, anybody who has a four-year-olds know they can climb over anything.
Okay.
He didn't climb over anything.
He did a practically practically a Navy SEAL obstacle course and fell 15 feet.
That's that's the problem.
And it went on too long.
You're right.
And your case is well made.
Um now the question is I don't think that the zoo I think the zoo did had one only one choice.
Now, let's say, for example, they tried to tranquilize the gorilla.
Okay.
Let's say that the gorilla got agitated and then harmed that child or killed that child.
Then what happened?
Everyone's saying, why didn't you kill it?
They can't win for losing here.
The bottom line is you can't have a kid that is not being watched, fall into the gorilla exhibit, you have no choice but to pull the trigger.
Now I happen to like zoos.
I like seeing elephant elephants and giraffes and zebras, a Central Park Zoo has uh penguins and a polar bear, and I love going to zoos.
I'm fascinated at the beauty of nature.
And and God has some vivid imagination.
That's my take on it.
So, but I don't think the zoo is culpable here.
Because if they didn't kill that gorilla and something happened to that kid, and maybe as much as the gorilla look like it was being protective, we don't know in a second.
A gorilla is strong, it's an animal, it has fight or flight responses, and it could kill that kid.
If you don't kill the gorilla and you take the shot with a tranquilizer and the kid's dead, that zoo is closed forever.
They had to save the child's life over the animal.
Is it tragic?
Yes.
Is it sad?
Yes.
Is it preventable?
Yes.
But once that moment came and the zoo did exactly the only thing they could do.
What Jason, you want to weigh in.
I was just gonna ask you if you think that the zoo is culpable for maybe not having the walls a little more uh uh not having the gorilla more wheeled off since a four year a four-year-old kid That's a great question.
He he did have to go through a lot to get there, but do you think do you think that they'll still be held liable because people will say that uh that they didn't do enough to watch the floor?
I think they're probably they're probably gonna have to reconsider, and that's gonna screw it up for everybody else.
That means you're gonna have to look at animals through a fence of some type that goes all the way to the ceiling, all the way to the sky, and it it it makes the animals less visible.
So they're gonna have to, yes, they'll probably have to go back, but do I blame the zoo?
No.
You gotta take that's gonna be very expensive.
They're gonna they're not gonna just have to do that with the gorillas, they're gonna have to do that with virtually lions and tigers and bears all the animal.
I have a better idea.
Why don't we have people who have children have to take a test?
And if you fail that test, you're not allowed to go to public places with your children.
For example, here's a test.
Should you text or should you hold your child's hand?
Should you walk 15 feet ahead with your four children lagging behind climbing into moats, or should they be next to you?
If you answered yes to either of these questions, you don't get to comment.
I'm gonna ask you a question that's actually hard for me to to ask, but um I know you have Liam, who's my m little nephew, who I think is the cutest kid on earth.
I love the kid.
This that kid is adorable.
You ought to put pictures online.
This kid should be a model baby, it's a Gerber baby.
It's got beautiful strawberry blonde hair.
Strawberry blonde hair.
He's built like a linebacker, he was born 40 pounds when he came out of you.
I mean, it's the it's a cutest kid in the world.
I love that kid.
And all right, now you're at home, you've got your 50 million animals, you're the crazy cat lady that had a baby, and let's say God forbid you're cleaning the house, and the kid reaches out of the crib and or reaches out of the fence that I know you have built because I think I bought the fence, and grab something and puts it in its mouth, and you don't see it and is choking.
This kind of this is what scares me.
I actually explained this to my daughter recently.
When she was little, every single night, and the same with my son, I would go in their room while they're sleeping, and you know why I would go in their room?
I would make sure they're breathing.
That's how neurotic I was as a parent.
Scared to death.
Now, my parents lost a sister of mine to crib death a few months after she was born.
So, you know, I don't know why.
I had a paranoia.
I would wake up many, many, many times during the night.
I still to this day, before I go to bed, when I wake up at night, I go in my kids' rooms and I check that they're okay and I check that they're breathing.
I know that's insane, right?
That's a little nuts.
No, I think that's totally normal personally.
I know, but you but there are things, Linda.
The only thing I would say to you is that I think there are things that can happen.
Well, can I just uh answer your for example?
Like I've taken a CPR class.
Yeah.
I've taken a um child rearing class.
I've taken a proper feeding class.
I've taken child education classes.
Now, do I need any of these classes?
Is there any rule that says I have to take these classes?
Absolutely not.
But I just want to be prepared.
So God forbid something was to happen that was outside my periphery, or maybe I didn't know from my own experiences, I could have like the 411.
So what I'm saying is when I would vacuum the house, I strap my baby to my chest, and I would take him with me.
He thinks it's hilarious and it's some sort of amusement ride that we're going on.
Now he likes to ride on the vacuum cleaner, but I only let him do that if I have my hand holding him.
God forbid he was to lose his balance.
My entire house is padded.
I've padded every corner, every wall.
Yeah, I might be a little bit overkill, perhaps.
Listen, you know what I can is.
I put up because I have a second floor with a with one of those railings.
I put up plastic eight feet in the air.
They're still up.
You come to my house, you're looking at what's the plastic doing there.
Because you know what kids might do?
They might reach out for the for the light fixture.
Oh, let me see if I can get it.
You fall, you die.
I'll tell you another thing that I did.
I have a swimming pool, and I move three times since my kids have been alive.
You know what the first thing I buy for my swimming pool is a cover that an elephant can walk on.
Why?
Because I don't want a dead kid in my pool.
And you put the fence around it, but kids can get through fences.
But I every time they're done swimming.
I hate swimming.
I don't go in the stupid pool.
I hate it.
I hate chlorine.
I hate the feel of chlorine.
So uh I put those that you know how much that stupid stupid cover is?
Take a guess.
How much that cover is.
I can't even imagine I said.
12,000.
But I could not live with the idea of a kid dying in my pool.
Right, but see, you live by the rule that many of us live by, which is what if analysis.
So you prepare yourself for the what if.
Parents like these who have decided to live their life by a wayward rule and then go and have children.
These kids have no choice who their parents are.
All right, let me go to um Michelle is in Utah, disagrees with us.
What's up, Michelle?
How are you?
Hi, Sean, how are you doing?
I'm good.
How are you?
What's going on in Utah?
K and R S. Rodar Ketland.
What's happening?
Rodar Ket, exactly.
Well, I just wanted to call in.
I I want to say I do think that human lives are obviously more important than animals.
I'll say that I personally don't think that the gorilla was gonna harm the the child, because I think if he would have um wanted to, he would have by then.
But the parents put the zoo in a horrible situation.
Obviously the zoo didn't want to kill the the grill.
I mean at 17 years old, they all loved it.
It's an attraction.
Um I just think it's personal responsibility.
The parents are not they you know everybody's mad at the zoo and everything else, but the it's personal responsibility.
It goes back to the parents to me.
Yeah, uh look, I agree with you.
And this and the you know what I've found about people that work at zoos or work at SeaWorld, I know everyone's attacking SeaWorld, is they love animals.
That's why they're working there.
They're not making money at a zoo.
You're not making money at a zoo.
You're not making money at SeaWorld.
You know, even if you're one of the best performers, you're not making a lot of money.
All right, back to our phones.
800 941 Sean Tracy is in Katie, Texas.
Hi, Tracy, how are you?
Hey, I Sean.
Uh Trump wanted me to speak about him, but I'm gonna let you speak about the grill.
I think all three of you guys are right.
I definitely believe you're co-host.
She's right.
I mean, it's a big thing.
Oh, she's not my co-host.
Good grief.
She thinks she's my co-host, but she's not.
I'm sorry, I I didn't mean it.
The the beautiful sounding woman you have on your show.
Dude, you're such a suck-up.
Get to the point.
Come on.
I agree with her.
I agree with you as well.
I think it was a hard decision on the zoo.
And there was another gentleman that spoke.
I think maybe you guys uh probably can do an investigation as to what it took, what obstacles a kid would have to meet to go into there.
But I do feel the parents should be all responsible.
Yeah, and listen, uh but I but I'm also saying that stuff can happen.
All right, really quick, Susan California.
We got about 40 seconds, Susan.
Yeah, hey, Sean.
You know, I think you are absolutely right.
It's a senseless tragedy that the zoo had no other choice.
Unfortunately, I think people are gonna blow this out of out of proportion and then um have the zoo build the walls higher and make the experience at the zoo not even fun.
I mean, people have lost their mind.
And um I also think that Trump did fantastic today on his VHS.
Wasn't that great?
Oh my god, he kicked some serious ass.
Trump's gonna be on TV tonight.
I hope you'll watch.
Okay.
I will.
And the fact that he gave a hundred percent of his money to the pet is amazing.
Hillary doesn't give squat to anybody, and the found Clinton Foundation gives twenty cents on the dollar.
I it was such hypocrites.
So that's a lot of people.
I was glad he's I glad he called out the media, and I was also glad that he he pointed that out.
