Sean Hannity Show - Remember Life In The Clinton White House? - 5.23

May 23, 2016 - Sean Hannity Show

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Remember Life In The Clinton White House? - 5.23

Sean spends some time with Kathleen Willy, Juanita Broaddrick as they share stories of their life with President Bill Clinton. Did Hillary Clinton know about these stories? Kathleen Willy certainly thought so. The Sean Hannity Show is live Monday through Friday from 3pm - 6pm ET. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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	Happy Monday.
	It's a happy Monday here at the Sean Hannity Show.
	We have big news of one of our staff people here, Ethan, the latest member.
	Breaking news report.
	All right, so uh Sean.
	What happened over the weekend there, Ethan?
	Uh I got engaged on Saturday in Washington, D.C. And how long have you been dating uh this girl Annie?
	About a year.
	Do you like singer the song by John Denver?
	Annie, you fill up my senses like a night in the forest, like the mountain in springtime, like the walking around.
	I don't have a good singing voice, unlike you, so I just your your entire man cart is at stake here.
	Did you cry?
	Did you cry when you asked her?
	No.
	Did she cry?
	She did for a little bit.
	Yeah.
	Did you and how big was the diamond?
	It was actually her grandmother's ring.
	She wanted her grandmother's room.
	So that's what I'm saying.
	Oh, so you whoa, hang on a second.
	You didn't even pay for the ring?
	I'm buying a nice wedding band to go along with it.
	It's very sentimental to her, so that's what I did.
	So you went to grandma and said, I mean I need a ring.
	I'll marry her.
	Passed away, so let's not go down this road.
	Okay.
	No, I'm only kidding.
	Well, congratulations, I think.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Uh when he when is the big wedding?
	I'm sorry.
	What does that mean?
	What was the first thing that I said when he told me?
	I said, Don't ask me to go to the wedding.
	I hate weddings and I hate funerals.
	So the first thing you said was, I think congratulations, and I'm not coming to your wedding.
	God, you're all heart was all heart, right?
	But now wait a minute.
	You should be my witness.
	I gave you an option for money or my attendance.
	And what did you choose?
	Well, I already told you I had a very nice setup for you at my wedding.
	We were going to strap you.
	What did you choose?
	I was going to put you in all the way.
	Strap me in.
	And just let people take pictures with you.
	It was gonna be wonderful.
	Okay.
	I become a distraction at weddings, and I don't want to be a distraction.
	I want the person to have their day and and nobody saying, Oh, hi, there's Sean Ann.
	So what you're trying to say is to spend a white dress and it'd still be an adjustment.
	Did I give you five figures in a bonus and said happy wedding day?
	Yes.
	No.
	If I didn't, I will.
	I gave you pretty good money.
	I was a very healthy gift.
	It was.
	And I enjoy being healthy.
	I'm a healthy person, and I thank you for that healthful gift.
	But I love you, dear.
	But listen, you had a great day.
	You know why I love your husband?
	He's the only guy I know that had the ability to wear sneakers at a wedding.
	I'm like, I love this guy.
	He's the coolest guy.
	He's my hero for wearing sneakers.
	He's a ball breaker.
	He's my hero.
	Well, he wore sneakers at his wedding.
	Ethan, are you gonna wear sneakers at your wedding?
	Uh yeah, that's a good question.
	No.
	No.
	Yeah, because she's gonna tell you what to wear, right?
	Yeah.
	No, no, no.
	Yeah, you won't do that.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, she's gonna tell you.
	She told me specifically she wants me to have input, and I said, well, okay.
	No, don't get the inf stay out of the input business.
	Trust me.
	That's your first lesson in getting married.
	Don't get involved in the stupid wedding.
	And I I honestly, I don't know.
	It's a wedding is like a racket.
	I had my niece's wedding at my house last year.
	It's a racket.
	You pay a fortune.
	The tent was a fortune.
	The dance floor.
	Well, you can get the crappy dance floor or the good dance floor.
	You can get the nice glass or the or the paper plates.
	Uh you can get, you know, the plastic glasses.
	You can get like plastic forks or the really expensive gold forks that you're renting for one stupid day.
	And it costs a fortune.
	Well, you see, Sean, we all know if we left it to you, we'd all have hot dogs and that's I mean, not that that's not incredibly much.
	By the way, that would be the coolest wedding ever.
	A little beer, maybe fishing.
	I don't wear fur.
	I don't wear flip-flops.
	Oh, I'm sorry, loafers.
	I don't wear loafers either.
	Oh, what do you wear?
	Sneakers.
	Sperries.
	Sperries.
	Perries, New York.
	Look at Jason.
	Jason, you're going down next.
	That's how I predict that the order here is gonna be Ethan, you, and Sunshine over there.
	It's getting kind of cold in here.
	I think hell's going to freeze over before that happens, okay?
	Actually, I'm predicting sunshine next.
	She'll go down next.
	No doubt about it.
	I've actually decided I'm gonna become a spinster.
	Oh, stop it.
	Crazy cat lady, the crazy dog lady.
	Dogs.
	I prefer dogs.
	Dogs, yeah.
	You brought a dog to work today.
	So she brings one of these service dogs in, and I'm getting to the show in a minute.
	Everyone relax.
	Um So she brings a dog in today.
	What's the dog's name again?
	Her name is Treat.
	Okay.
	So treat and I bond immediately.
	I got a bone.
	I'm holding it.
	I throw it.
	She brings it back.
	I fight for the bone.
	She jumps on me.
	I'm hugging her.
	She loves her Uncle Sean.
	And what do you keep saying?
	Oh, get out of here.
	You're ruining her training.
	You keep making her do everything she doesn't want to do.
	I'm like, no, I'm playing with the dog.
	The dog wants to be a retriever.
	The dog wants that.
	So I'm going to interject.
	I'm going to blow up your spot.
	So you had Marley for about 30 seconds.
	No.
	In the video that I was privy to see.
	Yeah.
	Marley exits the vehicle.
	It's her first encounter with Daddy Sean.
	Yeah.
	And uh, what do you say to her?
	Hi, Marley Highland.
	Shit.
	Sit Marley.
	Sit.
	Poor dog is not taking a breath of Long Island Air.
	And you already have her.
	You want to know why?
	Because you got to immediately take over Alpha.
	You do?
	That's interesting.
	Because when Lauren was trying to do that, you said that she was trying to be a bigger one.
	She couldn't be an alpha in a million years.
	This dog is gonna walk over her just like in my house.
	I'm the only alpha in my house.
	I am what are you doing?
	The poor dog's gonna jump the poor bastard wherever.
	Listen, the vet's gonna love a dog that's that's got some spirit and energy and fighting her.
	As the wheelchair goes down the hill and into the river.
	Thank you, Uncle Sean.
	Well, by the time she's four, she'll calm down.
	Don't worry.
	Listen, bring Marley in.
	We'll corrupt her next.
	All right, let's I'll tell you what we'll do.
	We'll put the dog in a in a spot and put me on one side and Lauren on the other.
	We'll both call the dog and let's see who the dog comes to.
	The dog will come to me because the dog likes me better.
	Because I'm more full of.
	She does not.
	She will come to me and I'll be able to do that.
	She will not.
	Hi, come.
	Are you gonna have like a flame and stake in your hand?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Listen, the dog already knows that I'm the one I'm crazy Uncle Sean.
	Play with me.
	That's where you're wrong.
	That's not even the correct command for her.
	It's actually here.
	So you already lose that game.
	You would be calm.
	I'd say here, then she won't come to me.
	Come here.
	Boom.
	Who's she coming to?
	Will you stop trying to subvert the will of the dog's owner?
	I mean, the dog was doing fine.
	Then don't bring a dog into my radio studio if you come in here and the over rules.
	It's my natural personality to love dogs.
	I love them.
	I hear you.
	I was the same way.
	The dog came in my office.
	The dog.
	And I said to Lauren, Lauren, what is the appropriate behavior?
	Because obviously I want to get on the floor and all your rounds.
	Oh, good grief.
	I didn't.
	I held back.
	I didn't.
	I we played You didn't?
	I'm shocked.
	We played catch.
	We played Fight for the Bone.
	We played uh all sorts of games.
	I hope no one is listening from the foundation because this is everything you're not supposed to do.
	Yeah, don't worry.
	They'll get over it.
	Uh all right.
	We got a loaded show today.
	We got Kathleen Willie, Juanita Broderick, and Paula Jones.
	After my interview with Donald Trump last week, and he mentioned the R-word.
	You know, there's a whole generation of people that do not know these women's stories.
	We're gonna talk about it.
	We'll also talk Hillary related in terms of what she knew and when she knew it and how big an enabler she was.
	And also Ami Horowitz is starting stopping by today, our friend.
	This guy went to Portland State University.
	While he was there, he says, Oh, I'm raising money for the terrorist group Hamas and got students to donate money to the terrorist group so that they could blow up, quote, soft targets like schools and cafes.
	I have the whole thing on tape.
	We'll even show you on Hannity tonight.
	Uh we'll start with our top story today is this morning.
	A judge acquitted Baltimore police officer, Edward Nero, of all charges in connection with the April 2015 arrest of Freddie Gray.
	Remember that?
	That death.
	He died from a neck injury sustained that he had sparking protests and widespread rioting in the city.
	Now, I want to draw on a lot of news reports on this.
	I'll start with the Wall Street Journal.
	And quote, here's what you need to know.
	Prosecutors charged.
	Now let me backtrack.
	In this case, you have Caesar Goodson, 45-year-old officer, black, 16-year veteran.
	You have Garrett Miller, 26 years old, white police officer, joined in 2012, along with Officer Nero, who was white.
	He's the one acquitted today.
	William Porter is 25 black.
	He too joined the force in 2012.
	Brian uh Rice, Lieutenant Rice, age 41, 17-year veteran on the force.
	Uh Al Alicia White Is age 30.
	She's black.
	She was on the force since 2010.
	So you have three white, three black, three minorities, three white officers in this case.
	Because so many people have tried to make you see this case through the prism of race.
	Well, you have three black people charged and three white people charged, and the first white officer now has been found not guilty.
	He's been acquitted in this case.
	Anyway, so the prosecutors charge that Nero would say guess what they charge?
	This is what happens all the time.
	They always overcharge.
	There's no evidence in this case.
	They tried to make this about unlawful arrest.
	Now, it's not an unlawful arrest.
	You have two officers on bicycle doing their job out on patrol.
	Freddie Gray, known according to all these reports, as a drug dealer in the neighborhood.
	So the police on bicycle see Freddie Gray.
	There was one report that he actually had a visible knife that some people could see.
	And the officers pull up and Freddie Gray at 8 30 in the morning shoots off running when he sees the cops.
	Well, if you're not doing anything wrong, why would you run from police?
	That's issue number one.
	You can't ask that question in this day and age.
	That's unfair.
	Every person runs from the police at 8 30 in the morning because the police woke up dying to get them.
	So anyway, they charge him for second degree assault and for touching Gray during an quote, an illegal arrest with reckless endangerment for failing to seatbelt them in a police van, which by the way, that might be a civil case, but that's not a crime if the police are given faulty equipment.
	That's not the officer's fault.
	The second issue is remember you had the report early on that had been contradicted and then not contradicted about that maybe he was banging up against the police van himself.
	And had been said at one point by another person and then sort of taken back.
	So I don't know what the final outcome of that is.
	Anyway, Nero faced ten years in jail for second degree assault, five years for reckless endangerment.
	The judge found him not guilty of all charges, including misconduct.
	Nero chose a bench trial rather than trial by jury.
	Nero pleaded not guilty, as did the other five officers.
	You have separate trials now for five other officers scheduled in coming months.
	The judge said there was no evidence to support the prosecution's claim that Nero acted recklessly by not seatbelting Mr. Gray in the police van after he lifted his legs while a lieutenant in the van pulled him inside.
	The judge said an officer in a similar situation would reasonably rely on both the van driver and the officer in the van to make decisions about a detainee's transport.
	Officer Nero's uh wife and family are elated that the nightmare is finally over.
	His attorney said, quote, the state attorneys for Baltimore City rushed to charge him as well as the other five officers, completely disregarding the facts of the case and applicable law.
	Nero's attorney goes on to say, Officer Nero is appreciative of the reason judgment that Judge Barry Williams applied in his ruling.
	How many times has the president and all these politicians rushed to judgment?
	Oh, the Cambridge police acted stupidly.
	Trayvon would look like my son.
	The only problem is an eyewitness showed up identifying Trayvon Martin on top of George Zimmerman, who was screaming, and we have audio of at the top of his lungs and testified that he saw Trayvon grounding and pounding Zimmerman's head into the ground, which also were consistent with Zimmerman's injuries.
	And then, of course, we have the case of Michael um Michael Brown and Darren Wilson out in Ferguson.
	Another rush to judgment.
	Well, you know who ended up making sure that Darren Wilson didn't get charged in that case were the eyewitnesses that mostly were black from Ferguson that told the truth that they saw Michael Brown fight for Darren Wilson's gun, that Darren Wilson was charged at repeatedly by Michael Brown.
	This is after he committed a robbery where he intimidated a clerk at a local convenience store.
	How often does the media get this wrong?
	How often does the president, how often through the prism of politics, does nobody care about giving uh uh any time to gather facts and information about a case?
	Anyway, the uh the officer of of Officer Nero's attorney went on to say that like Officer Nero, these officers have done nothing wrong, and Officer Nero remains a proud member of the Baltimore police department, looks forward to serving the city and the people of Baltimore.
	I mean, it just never ends.
	None of these officers, from what we can see, have we seen any evidence they did anything wrong?
	Nothing.
	You know, this was a c you know, this is a a case of miscarriage of justice from the get go.
	It's a political prosecution.
	We'll play some comments in the next hour.
	Remember Marilyn Mosby, state attorney.
	You know, but the prosecution of these cops is an example of a very large, very broad, relatively new phenomenon we now see in this country, which is a war on cops.
	Cop, there's never gonna be a video of an arrest that looks pleasant.
	It's not the nature of arresting somebody for it to be pleasant.
	You know, it's been led by President Obama, it's been led by attorney general at the time, Eric Holder, and it's been supplanted by left-wing layers like Comrade de Blasio, the state attorney like Marilyn Mosby and Mo in Baltimore.
	You know, the tragedy of this war on cops is not just for the cops, but for innocent people now dying in the streets because of the so-called Ferguson effect.
	Meaning officers are scared to death to do their job for fear of getting hit with excessive force or brutality charges or a video that looks bad.
	An arrest is never gonna look peaceful, trust me, especially when somebody resists.
	The FBI director, James Comey, reaffirmed his position that the potential for viral video has led to a decrease in effective policing, which is causing a spike in crime nationwide, and Comey believes that a viral video uh effect could well be at the heart of the rise in crime of and that means all of us are now at risk at further risk,
	because cops can't do their jobs, and there's always a rush to judgment against them and an outright war again by some people against them, which we've seen in Baltimore and elsewhere.
	It's gotta end.
	You know, and my fear is Baltimore officials now having stoked racial tensions and racial grievances have now created what?
	The expectation of a verdict that was never coming in the beginning.
	I was very nervous.
	No woman should be subjected to it.
	It was an assault.
	He starts to ride on my top and I try to pull away from him.
	Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
	you you you Thank you.
	All right, that is a new Donald Trump ad.
	It was on Instagram.
	Literally now he's doubling and tripling down on his attacks of the past allegations of sexual misconduct and assault uh by Bill Clinton and the enabling of Hillary Clinton.
	In one audio, uh Juanita Broderick, you know, say started biting down on my lip as I tried to pull away from him.
	Another feature is Kathleen Willie who was attacked in the Oval Office after she dared to ask for a job.
	No woman should be subjected to this.
	And remember, Hillary Clinton said every woman rape victim has a right to be believed.
	I want to send a message to every survivor of sexual assault.
	Don't let anyone silence your voice.
	You have a right to be heard, and you have a right to be believed.
	We're with you.
	You have a right to be believed.
	You're with we're with you.
	How could she even knowing that this is gonna well, you know why she did this?
	This is something we gotta talk about.
	Is she never in a million years when she said that, thought Donald Trump was going to be the nominee?
	You know what Democrats are used to in elections?
	Democrats are used to having free reign to call Republicans, racist, sexist, war on women.
	Poor Mitt Romney.
	He dared to have the resumes of women that he wanted to hire.
	Binders of women.
	And that became a big issue in 2012.
	But John McCain, he wasn't going after, you know, Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dorn.
	He wasn't mentioning Reverend Wright.
	He wasn't mentioning Acorn and Alinsky, a preview of of what would become the radicalism of Obama.
	You know, I had to do the job.
	How many people brought up the Swift vote vets for truth, except for me and a few others?
	And they were telling the truth about John Kerry.
	So we can go back election after election after election, and Republicans, Democrats call them everything that they can think of.
	That they're racist, that they're sexist, they want to kill your grandma and throw Granny over the cliff.
	And Republicans don't fight back.
	So now you have a candidate that's fighting back.
	And what was the reaction last week from Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton?
	Uh, we're not going to comment on this.
	We'll let Donald Trump's come and speak for themselves.
	Well, they can't answer this attack.
	That's the point.
	Democrats have to lie when they smear and slander.
	Republicans could just tell the truth and fight back, and that would be enough to counter what they do every election cycle.
	Well, at least this year we're going to learn something.
	Whether or not Republicans fighting back is going to be effective or not.
	The early indications are it's going to be fairly effective.
	And that that will neutralize what the Clintons try and do as they reach out for the women's vote.
	Well, one of the big things we learned last week, Donald Trump now leads for the first time against Hillary Clinton in the real clear politics average.
	He is now up in four separate polls in a row that have come up in a head-to-head matchup with Hillary Clinton.
	My my fear is you don't want Donald Trump to peak too early.
	We don't want Bernie.
	We don't want we want Hillary.
	We she is a flawed, horrible candidate, as evidenced by what we see Bernie Sanders and what he's been able to do and what he's been able to accomplish this entire campaign season, which is making her look horrible every single day.
	By the way, Harry Reid says, hell no, Elizabeth Warren is VP.
	Anyway, he said that today that he would do everything in his power to stop Bernie Sanders clone, Elizabeth Warren from becoming the vice president.
	And uh he shot down the prospect.
	And by the way, if Hillary goes against Harry Reid, that's going to be a big problem for her.
	If we have a Republican governor in any of the states, the answer is not only no, but hell no, he said, I would do whatever I can, and I think most of my Democratic colleagues here would say the same thing.
	Well, apparently she's not well liked.
	Sounds a little bit like how Republicans feel about Senator Ted Cruz.
	They don't like anybody that dares to speak their mind.
	Um I don't think Hillary wants Elizabeth Warren because Elizabeth Warren would outshine her.
	Elizabeth Warren is smarter.
	Elizabeth Warren is more left and socialist, and you know, she knows that the country's not going to vote for a socialist president and vice president.
	That's not going to happen.
	Anyway, so Trump leads real clear politics average.
	Politico, you know, this is getting annoying to me, the media's role in this campaign.
	Last week it was the New York Times, false allegations.
	I mean, look at what we we learned last week.
	So on this program, we interviewed three women last week.
	Sonata Azome, Carey Prejon, uh what's her name?
	Rose Rowan Brewer Lane, the ex-girlfriend of Donald Trump.
	There's a woman, what's her name?
	Lynn um Lynn Patton.
	She did this video of how great Donald Trump is, a minority woman, and how she can't stand to sit back silent anymore and watch the person that was so nice to her in her life and career and a family that was so nice to her and her career be slandered the way that Trump is being slandered.
	Well, then it all of a sudden Trump does an interview with me.
	We talk about how the New York Times ignores Juanita and Kathleen and Paula, which we'll put on coming up later in the program today, and it boom backfires.
	Everything the New York Times was trying to do was literally shattered by the women that courageously stepped up and spoke out for Mr. Trump.
	I mean, Donald Trump is is fortunate, I guess, that he's treated people well in his life.
	So anyway, so we at the distortion that begins this week.
	You got the Democratic Party coming apart at the seams.
	You got Bernie Sandal Sanders refuses to get behind her highness, and he's fighting all the way to the end.
	The liberal media is getting desperate.
	Few people notice that Bernie Sanders this weekend talked about Debbie Wasserman Schultz should be out of her job.
	So desperate they are now they're making up stories that make it look like the Republicans are facing the same type of dissension in their ranks like the Democrats.
	Today's politico, they have a report on Paul Ryan and his assessment of Donald Trump's chances in November.
	The headline is Ryan says Trump could win, but I'm not betting on it.
	Now, if you see that high headline, it sounds like Ryan is going out of his way to sabotage Trump.
	When you read the actual quote, he said nothing like that.
	He said when asked if he would bet his own money on a Trump victory, he said, I'm not betting, I'm not a betting man.
	Listen.
	In the upper Midwest is where I think the term Reagan Democrat got coined.
	And I do see Trump Democrats.
	Do you think he can really win?
	Yeah, sure.
	Of course I do.
	Would you put him?
	I mean, would you say if you were s if you were a betting man, would you say he's gonna win?
	I'm not gonna, I'm not a betting man.
	So you know, I think I think if we get our party unified, and if we do the work we need to do to get ourselves at full strength, and if we offer the country a clear and compelling agenda uh that is inspiring, that is inclusive, uh, that fixes problems, that is solutions-based and based on good principles, then yes, I think we can win.
	But I think that this is a we, not just one person.
	I think it's a we.
	This is a we effort.
	And I do believe, look, I'm a Jack Kemp guy.
	I very much believe in a type and style of politics that may not be in vogue today, but I still think nevertheless is the right kind of politics.
	So the political, their headline, Ryan says Trump could win, but I'm not betting on it.
	So if you only read the headline, you get a very different take on what he actually said when he said that yes, uh, I don't I I'm not a betting man.
	So he says he's not betting because he doesn't bet.
	And then he goes on to say what I have been saying since 2013, that they need an inspiring vision, that they need some unity.
	That's why I've been pushing a contract with America, promises to America.
	I've been pushing this with Paul Ryan now for for as soon as he became speaker.
	I've been telling Trump the same thing.
	Trump kind of likes the idea he told me.
	I think it would be good for the Republicans, then they can run United, and we'll do those ten things that I discussed in detail last week.
	By the way, Al Gore is weighed in on the race.
	He will not endorse Hillary Clinton.
	That's a problem.
	If Al Gore.
	Now I've heard through the grapevine over the years that the Gores and the Clintons hate each other.
	I've heard through the years that I don't know, something happened with Hillary and Tipper.
	I'm not exactly sure.
	But something happened.
	I've gotten some very interesting bits of information that are somewhat scandalous, but I can't talk about it.
	But from Secret Service guys.
	I mean, they talk all the time.
	They're not supposed to, but they tell me because they trust me because I'm not going to give them up.
	Anyway, so apparently there's no love loss there between them.
	Uh, but this is a pretty inconvenient truth, if you will, with Al Gore not ready to ready to endorse Hillary.
	He's uh not endorsing.
	He says, I've gotten uh signals that you could easily interpret that way, Gore said, when asked during an interview as to whether or not he's gonna support Hillary Clinton and uh whether she has uh support sought his endorsement, and he said in the interview that he will back the Democratic nominee, whoever that happens to be.
	And then the environmental whack job, Al Gore, who's unhinged, and we caught getting into a private Gulf Stream jet with him and his wife, even though the jet seats 14 people, and then into a private limousine thereafter.
	Anyway, his prediction that the world would end last January failed to come true.
	Well, now he's out blasting Donald Trump for not going along with the global warming hoax.
	And he actually he said some things about the climate crisis that I think should concern everyone, he said.
	I'm not Pollyanish, but I do think there's still some basis for hope.
	President Carter said that he hopes Trump will be malleable.
	So uh I don't know, he said before starting to laugh.
	Oh, okay.
	What are you gonna hope that he goes off the deep end like you?
	Another interesting tidbit, Hispanics are not sold on Hillary Clinton.
	Just like when the polls came out last week, everyone said, Oh, yeah, Donald Trump has a problem with women.
	But the person that has the biggest problem with the demographic is Hillary with men.
	Well, the same thing, Washington Times points out, Hispanics, well, they're not going over to Hillary Clinton either.
	She struggles to crack 60% among that voting block and poll after poll, putting her in a deep hole as she tries to rebuild the coalition that powered President Obama.
	The problem is she's not Obama.
	She look for all of my criticism of Obama.
	The guy can read a hell of a speech.
	The guy's got some charisma.
	He's like he believes his own socialism.
	He reads speeches from a teleprompter well.
	He does it all with conviction.
	He knows nothing.
	He can't govern to save his life.
	He has nothing but indoctrination to fall back on.
	He has no, you know, he's on his way now, I guess, to apologize.
	Well, he said he's not going to apologize for Hiroshima.
	We're making progress.
	That's that's a good start.
	Anyway, apparently, reports out today, Obama's pushing the Israeli military to buck their government.
	The Islamic State group leader urged attacks on the European and the UK.
	That's not good.
	We're getting more reports and evidence that in fact is many signs pointing to terrorism in the Egypt Air 804 crash.
	Gee, that's a shock.
	Trump was right.
	Everybody else seems to be wrong on that.
	And apparently there's one report out today that the pilot, one of the pilots may have been radicalized.
	That's not good either.
	The Republicans do deserve some credit.
	I've been a strong vocal opponent of theirs.
	They have done two things recently that show that they have hopes of gaining some type of spine and backbone lately.
	One is in the Senate.
	They are not going forward with Obama's choice to replace Antonin Scalia.
	That the American people can decide that in the next election.
	I think Trump releasing the names of justices he'd picked from last week is a good first step, because every conservative I know loved that list, and he said he would only appoint people of a similar vein, which is hopeful considering that will impact the country for generations to come.
	The other thing that the Republicans are doing that gives me some hope is that the impeachment hearings for the IRS chief will start Tuesday.
	Remember Katherine Engelbrick, who we've had on this program before.
	What, yeah, true the vote.
	And others and all these other conservative groups, Tea Party groups, all of them targeted by the IRS.
	Well, anyway, so you got the IRS commissioner will not appear at a misconduct hearing tomorrow, where Republicans are going to lay out a case to impeach him.
	House GOP leadership resisted any move to begin impeachment series proceedings, fearing it would turn into a circus.
	But Freedom Caucus founders, Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows, a few days ago threatened to force an impeachment vote on the matter if the speaker, Paul Ryan, didn't make House Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlett examine the issue.
	Well, at least the Freedom Caucus is there, the only people that we can count on regularly.
	Um you want to hear something really outrageous?
	The VA VA secretary, a guy by the name of Robert McDonald, uh compared the length of time veterans wait to receive health care at the VA.
	Listen to this, to the length of time that people wait for rides at Disneyland.
	Can you believe this?
	And said his agency shouldn't use wait times as a measure of success because Disney doesn't.
	These these vets are dying, you idiot.
	They've had they have institutionalized corruption where they put vets on one waiting list, the real list, and some people died because they never got called for the heart surgery that they needed a year ago.
	Or other types of serious illnesses.
	I mean, it's um when you go to Disney, do they measure the number of hours you wait in line?
	Or what's important is what's your satisfaction with the experience.
	Well, you can't compare Disney to a vet who's about to blow his brains out because he's got post-traumatic uh stress uh syndrome or disorder.
	Good grief.
	What's wrong with these people?
	Comparing the need for hospital care with waiting online at Disney.
	Oh my God, it's unbelievable.
	That's how corrupt the country is.
	Last but certainly not least, to the youth of this city.
	I will seek justice on your behalf.
	This is a moment.
	This is your moment.
	Let's ensure that we have peaceful and productive rallies that will develop structural and systemic changes for generations to come.
	You're at the forefront of this cause.
	And as young people, our time is now.
	To the people of Baltimore and the demonstrators Across America.
	I heard your call for no justice, no peace.
	Your peace is sincerely needed as I work to deliver justice on behalf of this young man.
	To those that are angry, hurt, or have their own experiences of injustice at the hands of police officers.
	I urge you to channel the energy peacefully as we prosecute this case.
	I've heard your calls for no justice, no peace.
	However, your peace is sincerely needed as I work to deliver justice on behalf of Freddie Gray.
	Not one time have I been mistreated.
	Right.
	Situations happened.
	I feel this family's hunt.
	I'm telling y'all, no justice.
	Why did I say no justice?
	No peace.
	You can't have peace when you put my son in a gray.
	Come on, y'all.
	If it was your towel, come on, be honest with yourself.
	This is not right.
	This never has a right to hurt.
	He has a right to have pay.
	That could have been my son.
	That could have been I got an eight-year-old son that lives in his community.
	What happens to him?
	Okay, it's very that was the state attorney Mosby earlier on and the family, and uh our top story continues.
	Uh this morning, a judge acquitted Baltimore police officer Edward Nero of all charges in connection with the April 2015 arrest of Freddie Gray, whose death from a broken neck sustained while in police custody sparked large protests and widespread rioting in the city.
	And describing what happened, and I'm drawing on various news organization, including the Wall Street Journal.
	Uh, the prosecutors charged Officer Nero and five of his fellow officers with crimes after Mr. Gray died of a spinal cord injury sustained in police custody.
	Prosecutors charged Nero with second degree assault for touching Gray during what they allege was an illegal arrest and with reckless endangerment for failing to seat belt him in a police van.
	He was also charged with two counts of misconduct in office.
	If convicted, he would have faced a maximum prison sentence for second-degree assault of ten years and up to five years for reckless endangerment.
	But circuit judge Barry Williams found him not guilty of all charges in this case.
	Nero opted for a bench trial rather than a trial by jury.
	In this particular case, he pleaded not guilty, as did the other five officers.
	Now, we find ourselves again in a situation where go back.
	The bolt uh the the Cambridge police acted stupidly.
	What'd the president do?
	That's what the president said.
	Well, the Cambridge police did not act stupidly.
	Our constitutional uh attorney president rushed to judgment.
	If Trayvon, he could look like my son, if I had a son.
	Well, in that particular case, an eyewitness uh placed Trayvon Martin on top of George Zimmerman with audio of George Zimmerman screaming at the top of his lung as the eyewitness described a scene of ground and pound of George Zimmerman's head into the ground and injuries consistent with the eyewitnesses' story.
	The president was wrong again.
	Then we have the case of Darren Wilson, the officer in Ferguson, Missouri.
	In that particular case, you got a video of two guys robbing a store, multiple eyewitnesses, even though the president rushed to judgment.
	And in that case, not guilty, no indictment.
	Why, based mostly on the testimony of black eyewitnesses in Ferguson, Missouri.
	Now, in this particular case, the expectation was raised again for a certain verdict.
	And I know some people are disappointed, but some people weren't given the facts.
	A lot of people rushed to judgment.
	A lot of people pleaded, a lot of people made the case in public that these officers were guilty, and officers just like everybody else in this country have the presumption of innocence until they are found guilty based on the evidence.
	Anyway, joining us now to get into this, we have Amy Dashtian is with us as former CBS reporter, on-air legal analyst Horace Cooper, legal commentator, co-chair of Project 21, an organization of black Americans, Brian Claypool, civil rights attorney, all here to discuss and debate the acquittal of Officer Nero in this particular case.
	Amy, what's your reaction?
	You know, I think there was no conviction for one simple reason.
	The prosecutors were totally inept.
	The idea that the arrest was unlawful, that was taken off the table, Sean.
	The false imprisonment charge, that was removed.
	Can we just can we just stop for a second?
	Now, police police officers on duty.
	Well, Freddie Gray, first of all, was known within the community, according to all these reports, as a drug dealer.
	It was early in the morning.
	The officers were out on patrol.
	Freddie Gray sees the officers.
	Freddie Gray takes off running when he sees the officers.
	Do you think that's normal behavior of somebody?
	No, and you're right.
	Where you're going is right with this.
	You can't just chase somebody because they're running.
	But if they're running in a high crime area, that's reasonable suspicion that either they committed a crime or they're about to.
	They could chase, and what that does is it gives them an opportunity to stop and frisk.
	They didn't even have to stop and frisk, John, because he had this switchblade in plain view.
	He was wearing it like a freaking fanny pack.
	Okay, so there's their probable cause.
	He's got an illegal weapon.
	They can arrest him and search for more dangerous weapons.
	Okay?
	But so that was taken off the table in this trial.
	They all agreed that there was no false imprisonment.
	This was a justifiable arrest.
	So why do the prosecutors go and base their whole case for assaults on the fact that there was an unlawful arrest, and therefore any touching of this guy was illegal.
	So you know what the judge says?
	He says, Oh, if any touching's illegal, they could have hugged him.
	He can't rule on those grounds for an assault because he's setting a precedent.
	That any time police officers illegally handcuff someone, they're assaulting them.
	But here's the problem in what you're saying.
	Okay, so now the prosecutors, again, so often as it happens, as you as you know, Amy, they overcharge, and in this particular case they probably did again.
	No, there was a clear case for assault, Sean.
	Okay, that's in plain sight.
	All right, you can say I I've seen the video.
	I've seen him handcuffed.
	I've seen him placed in the back of the paddy wagon.
	The only thing that I see that you might have a case on, and it's probably more of a civil case, is the fact that didn't didn't seat belt him in.
	No, no, no.
	The assault took place before he was put in the van after he was arrested.
	And where's the evidence beaten up?
	Where's the evidence of that?
	The video of him screaming in pain and being dragged somewhere.
	He screaming completely beaten up.
	Excuse me.
	No, I've looked wait wait with all due respect.
	I've I have not seen any video that shows he was clearly beaten up, and there was a point in this arrest where nobody saw anything.
	If someone screaming in pain and being dragged, at some point they were harmed.
	If somebody refused to arrest the case.
	You don't know if he resisted arrest.
	You don't know what went on because nobody saw the actual arrest.
	But a lot of times in the lawn, you use the video, you use the witnesses, you can't.
	Okay, but there's one other p factor here.
	A lot of people scream when they're being arrested.
	You want to know why?
	Because you're never going to see a video taped arrest, especially if someone resists in any way that is going to look peaceful.
	not going to by its very nature.
	You had witnesses, you had officers saying he was taken into custody without incident.
	So why is he screaming in pain?
	Well, maybe this was a pre-existing injury.
	How do you prove that?
	Horace, now you also had this guy apparently that was in the paddy wagon, then recanted the story, then said it was right, that he said that he heard Freddie Gray banging against the paddy wagon wall.
	Horace Cooper.
	Yeah, this is the problem.
	Um the prosecutors and the mayor decided what the guilt of this case was to appease the crowd.
	As a black American, I am particularly uh troubled by the idea that we manipulate the criminal justice system so as to appease particular interest.
	The way the trial system is supposed to work, you get charged for the things that we believe we can prove.
	It's not a fact-finding mission, it is an evidentiary basis.
	When this particular young man with a criminal encounter record that was more than twenty times with outstanding warrants occurred and ran when police saw him, and when they finally catch him, they still can find the switchblade.
	We don't know what could have or could not have occurred.
	That constituted the lawful arrest, and that uh uh met with the procedures that the city of Baltimore had for arrest purposes.
	All of this that flowed after was about appeasing the crowd.
	What's your reaction to this, Brian Claypool?
	Well, Sean, th this this verdict today sets us back fifty years in race relations.
	This th this this prosecution of Nero was equally important as the driver of the paddy wagon because he was the first guy to come in contact with uh Freddie Gray.
	Wait, hang on a second.
	How many uh how many how many of the officers were minority in this case?
	Uh uh the the officers, I believe, were Nero's white.
	Excuse me.
	I I understand I understand that, but many of the officers are involved.
	You said to set race relations back all these years.
	Let me finish let me finish my thought.
	Here's why.
	Because you have you have white police officers walking into a neighborhood looking at a man, undisputed that Freddie Gray did nothing wrong.
	He was minding his business.
	He wasn't committing a crime in this knife at Amy Mac.
	That is simply not true.
	The knife wasn't visible.
	Let me finish.
	Knife wasn't visible to anybody.
	Hey, look at somebody, he That's just simply not true.
	Running is not a crime.
	Let's let's talk about the Can I just stop for a second, Brian?
	So you think it's normal behavior for somebody that has standing warrants, uh a known history of drug dealing.
	Uh as Amy said, and uh I'll let you guys dispute it that uh a knife that is visible to the police officers, they're out on patrol.
	You think it's normal at 8 30 in the morning for uh for somebody to see an officer and just take off and run if they're up to no good, if they're not up to no good?
	You think that's normal?
	I'm asking, do you think that's normal?
	Abnormal abnormal behaviors, not criminal conduct.
	Second of all, there's no evidence that either.
	Brian, you're wrong.
	You're wrong, Brian.
	It's the mentality of the circumstances, and it was a high crime area, okay?
	That's reasonable.
	Absolutely not.
	Now, what mission to chase me?
	These officers, Amy, these officers had no idea.
	Nero had no idea that there were pending warrants outstanding on this guy.
	Well, wait a minute.
	You that's not true.
	Absolutely that's not true.
	He was recognized, they understand.
	Let me go back to one point.
	Horace, let me get back to this point.
	Brian is claiming this is setting race relations back fifty years.
	Half the cops here were minority.
	The other the other half are white.
	So I'm I'm trying to understand how does this set race relations back fifty years?
	Oh the only thing I see is that we're giving bad advice to people that will ultimately get more people injured.
	Instead of justifying criminality and unlawful resistance, we should be encouraging people to comply with the law.
	Now, black Americans uh operate as law enforcement, white Americans operate in law enforcement.
	The color line here should be blue, not black and white.
	This division is exacerbating what uh director Comey called the Ferguson effect.
	We're going to see more of these kinds of problems, not less.
	Of course, you're a black man.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Do you think it was fair of Nero to throw Freddie Gray, stick his knee, and stick his knee in his back?
	Do you think that is a reasonable apprehension of a suspect?
	That's why I'm saying there was assault at some point.
	I mean, there were five officers.
	You're telling me they couldn't safely subdue this guy?
	You have video of him we had a couple of Amy.
	No, no, no.
	You guys are setting up a standard.
	You're setting up a standard that is going to make it more likely that officers will resort to firearms instead of a closer encounter with individuals.
	This is not some unusual situation.
	This is actually what happens on a regular basis.
	People see the law enforcement, they either are engaging in a crime or they have outstanding warrants, and some of them choose to run.
	And the officers have to track them down.
	If you have your way, if you have your way, they either won't do it, the Ferguson effect, or they're going to involve deadly force sooner.
	Neither of those are good outcomes for people.
	I can't breathe.
	And that cop doesn't help you, and you die, what do you think your family's gonna say?
	You're gonna tolerate that?
	You think that doesn't set us back in in a humane society we live in?
	Answer that question.
	Yeah, I'm I'm curious about the I'm I'm curious about the twenty separate criminal encounters this individual had and how he preyed on the community.
	How many no no no?
	How many black people were harmed because he was willing to deal drugs at the local elementary and junior high school?
	How many people were harmed because as associated as part of his drug activity, there could have been drive-by.
	It is remarkable to me that we let black poor people suffer in these communities rather than behind the people in B. Amy, thank you for being with us.
	Horace, thank you.
	Brian, thank you all for being with us.
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	I'm Ami Horowitz, and I'm here in the Pacific Northwest.
	The American home of the BDS movement.
	Boycott, divestment, and sanction of Israel.
	I want to see if these guys are willing to take it to the next level.
	Um we're raising money for American friends for Hamas.
	Okay.
	We're not your father's terrorist organization.
	We've kind of evolved beyond that.
	Still kind of what we do, but we've kind of rebuilt and rebranded ourselves and and uh, you know, you know, Hamas is where it's at.
	We're raising money to do what you know we do as Hamas.
	We want to fund operations against Israel.
	And you know, the type of uh attacks talking about are cafes and schools and you know, soft targets.
	Type operations we're talking about against you know, soft targets.
	Schools and cafes and that kind of thing.
	Make them feel it.
	Civilian populations.
	And uh this is the only way you can fight back, really.
	The suicide bombers all we've got.
	I like the sound of what you're doing it.
	Sounds like the great thing to do.
	Yeah, totally against the Israeli genocide.
	Awesome.
	We just want to get rid of Israel and you know, it's for the it's for the Palestinians.
	Do you feel like donating to help the cause to fight back, and that'd be great?
	And maybe consider making a donation.
	Sure.
	Great.
	Probably like 15 bucks.
	15 bucks.
	No, that'd that'd be great.
	Uh maybe like 10, 20 bucks.
	15 to 20.
	Five or ten dollars.
	Maybe like ten dollars.
	Five dollars.
	Ten bucks, ten dollars, five or ten bucks.
	Ten bucks, let's say twenty-seven dollars, since that seems to be my Bernie donation.
	Peace and love.
	You believe peace is important, right?
	Of course.
	Of course.
	But we got to get peace, you can first gotta destroy some stuff, you know?
	See ya, man.
	All right, that's our friend Ami Horowitz, who is at the uh University of Portland, or the campus of Portland State University, rather, and he's asking these students if they'll donate to a very worthy cause, the terrorist group, Hamas.
	Now, Hamas has in their charter that of course they want the destruction of Israel.
	So Ami Horowitz is raising money so that they can attack soft targets, you know, schools and cafes and and kill innocent men, women, and children.
	Students gave him over $300, and how many signed the petition?
	No petition, but just say just a fundraiser.
	Just a fundraiser.
	Yeah, cash.
	What'd you do with the 300 bucks?
	Uh because it's technically illegal for me to raise actual cash.
	Under false pretenses, you had to give it right back to them.
	I ha I had to, yeah, they I'd actually keep any money.
	So you gave it back to him.
	They start pulling out the money.
	I told him to go to a website where they can donate the money.
	That was not real.
	That was now it's not real.
	Actually, it was the idea, it was the IDF website.
	Look, I don't I don't mean to are they stupid or are they ignorant?
	I mean, you're sitting there saying we're going to attack soft targets, schools, cafes, and you're saying you're attacking the Israelis, our friends, and that you're aligned with a terrorist organization.
	Is it uh I'm playing devil's advocate here?
	Is it that they don't know who Hamas is, that they don't understand that Israel is our friend?
	Do they not understand that a school Or a cafe is not a soft target.
	Let me be clear.
	First of all, I have to be honest with you, Sean.
	I was kind of afraid that coming in here today, this whole video was a ruse.
	You wanted to bring me into beat me up by Kasich anymore.
	So we're not doing that anymore, right?
	Are you stopped?
	Just to be clear.
	Did you come in to be funny and be a wise of us or what?
	How many states did your friend John Kazakh win?
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	Yeah, one.
	He won one state and he still thought he was going to be president.
	I mean, I like I like John Kesak.
	It has nothing to do with it.
	Mathematically, he couldn't win.
	I knew I can get you on this yet.
	Alright, so no.
	They were let me speak clear.
	If they didn't know who Hamas was, I explained very clearly that we are a terrorist organization looking to kill Israeli civilians for them to pay the price of what they did to quote unquote those air quotes for those who can't see our people.
	And I could not have been more clear about who we're trying to attack.
	Place of worship, like you said, cafes, schools.
	Let me ask this.
	Is it any chance that, oh, people can't stand up and speak up for themselves, so they're cornered and they're scared and they're afraid and oh yeah, I'll don't move.
	They were they were thrilled to donate.
	Listen, one guy said it all.
	He said, This year I learned about what's going on in your country, and now I'm happy to help.
	I'm through his words where I'm thrilled with what you're doing.
	Listen, there's a very And this is not an anomaly.
	You did this again.
	What do you mean?
	We have tape from uh Minneapolis?
	Okay.
	All right.
	Just as scary, by the way.
	By the way, this is so scary that kids are this stupid, this ignorant, and this gullible.
	Yeah, but you're I you're giving them way too much credit.
	It's not about ignorance and stupidity.
	You think they're evil.
	You think they literally want to blow up schools and cafes for the terrorist group Hamas.
	I think they're very comfortable with that idea.
	And you think that students are comfortable with the idea of aligning with a terrorist organization.
	I think they're extremely comfortable.
	And you don't think they have you think they are fully aware that Hamas's charter calls for the destruction of Israel?
	Well, I in in the I don't know if they know the charter, but I specifically said we're call I part of what we want to do it I said it, to destroy Israel and wipe it off the map.
	Let me give you a real quick.
	So N the great Nick Cave and the cavemen and Ecclesiastes, both of them both said this beautiful quote, which is if you are going to be cruel to the kind, ultimately you will be kind to the cruel.
	And this is exactly that manifestation of that.
	Okay, the sickness that these professors are are putting into this garbage into their heads.
	The manifestation of this is they are kind to the cruel.
	They are kind and loving and generous to Hamas.
	Unbelievable.
	By the way, we have some some new information about this Egypt Air Flight 804, and you had sixty-nine people on board, over fifty-five of them were passengers.
	Anyway, we now have confirmed reports that the Islamic State Terror Group has indeed taken responsibility for that act of terror.
	We have other information.
	Our homeland security chairman says there's many signs that point to terrorism in the Egypt air crash.
	And Donald Trump immediately out of the box, oh, he was like excoriated by Hillary for thinking the the unthinkable that it might have been terror.
	There was a a post out today by my friend Walid Shabbat, and he actually interpreted that the Muslim pilot on flight eight oh four converted the plane into a portable mosque and said farewell before he crashed the plane and slaughtered everybody.
	And it the quote was I was the captain in the plane that is missing in one of my journeys.
	The kindest of pilots I traveled with, may Allah have mercy on him and give patience to his family.
	I hope you read the my words of prayer to him and the rest of the passengers.
	Wow.
	I flown Egypt air.
	What's that?
	I flew on Egypt air.
	Yeah, good luck.
	I'm not going on Egypt air.
	Not happening.
	I'll go on L Al.
	I'm not going on Egypt there.
	That's a good price, man.
	What do you want to do?
	So you did it for the money.
	Oh, yeah.
	And you knew you were taking your life in your life.
	I I saved like 300 bucks.
	Ah, 300 bucks.
	You know, what's life?
	What's the real price of a life worth in in this world?
	So we've got terrorism everywhere.
	We have all these terrorist organizations, and we got kids on college campuses.
	That's pretty scary.
	All right, now let's go to the Minneapolis case.
	You ask Muslims if it's easier to be a Muslim in America.
	The Muslims say, you know, it's good to be Muslims in this country.
	They love the freedom that America offers them.
	They love freedom of religion and speech.
	And then you ask if they prefer American law or Sharia law, and many of them say Sharia.
	Let's listen.
	Is it easy to be Muslim in America?
	Or is it hard?
	It's easy to be Muslim.
	Nobody gives you problems.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	And you you go to school here, obviously.
	And do the kids, are they good to you?
	Are they nice to you?
	Are they is it is it a tough is it tough?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's not tough at all.
	It's not tough at all.
	No.
	This is a free country.
	That's the beautiful fit.
	So we love America.
	I mean, you know, it's a great country.
	Freedom of speech, freedom of choice with your religion.
	Right.
	So we don't have any issues.
	Do you feel more comfortable living under American law or do you feel more comfortable living under uh Sharia law?
	Uh sh uh Sharia La.
	I'm a Muslim.
	I prefer Sharia.
	Sharia Lang.
	Yes.
	You prefer uh Sharia law over American law.
	Of course, yeah.
	Of course, yeah.
	And you find most of your friends uh say I feel the same way?
	Yeah, of course.
	If you're a Muslim, yeah.
	Sharia Allah says if you steal something, they cut off your hand.
	So basically they can leave their doors, their stores doors open, nobody's gonna steal anything because the Sharia is so tight.
	Usually that they don't do anything.
	The smallest things usually have big consequences.
	He can make his daughter marry somebody.
	Yeah, he can.
	Yeah, he can.
	He has the thought.
	Yeah, to do that.
	Yeah.
	So here, how young do you think it's okay?
	Uh yeah, fifteen.
	Fifteen.
	Okay.
	Well, we know how old Muhammad was when he actually married a girl that wasn't even double digits, nine years old.
	Uh one one report has it at seven or eight.
	All right, so I want to ask you this.
	So they're talking about Sharia law that should usurp traditional American law.
	This goes to the heart of an argument I have been making on this program for many years, and that is that there's this massive cultural divide.
	And if you grow up under Sharia, let's say you want to come from a Muslim country, and a lot has been talked about regarding Donald Trump and his temporary ban because our director of intelligence, our FBI director, our special envoy to defeat ISIS, all said that ISIS will infiltrate the refugee population.
	But it's do you want to come here and do you want to bring Sharia with you?
	Do you want to tell your daughter what to wear when she has to marry?
	Do you want to tell a woman if she can leave the house or drive a car or go to school?
	Do you want to bring a a law or a system of laws that are so contradictory to our American constitution that you'd need four male eyewitnesses as a woman to prove rape?
	That's a question.
	I don't know how you answer that question.
	Listen, the the normal immigration pattern for somebody coming to this country is that the successive generations become more and more integrated in U.S. society, right?
	If you look across the immigration uh spectrum.
	Around the world.
	Now you're talking about Great Britain, the United States, German.
	No, no, no, no.
	I'm talking about Mexicans coming here.
	Right.
	I'm talking about Irish people coming here.
	They assimilate.
	Whatever they assimilate.
	The problem we have with Islamic immigration is that the first generation, for the most part, whether they're coming here or even to Europe, those people for the most part, they just want a a life, a new life, a job.
	They want what every other immigrant has.
	The problem is is that oddly enough, their children and their grandchildren become more and more radicalized.
	And the numbers show that out.
	Pew Research did an alarming poll about the radicalism of the second and third generation Islamic immigrants in this country, about their support for terrorism, about their way they feel about Al Qaeda.
	It was a shocking report.
	Well, we also have a a model that we can look to at a Europe.
	For example, who would ever think that Great Britain of all countries has eighty-eight separate Sharia courts?
	In other words, Muslim immigrants have their own court system, apart from what every other citizen in Great Britain Britain has.
	Um if you look at Germany, we see the problems unfolding there because of the migration issue.
	France is another fantastic example.
	Radicalism and non-assimilation has gotten to the point that after the Paris attacks, fifty-seven people that were on the watch list, the terror watch list, were working at the airport.
	Many of them were still working at the airport.
	When Egypt Air Flight 804 left Charles de Gaulle Airport.
	Now, if you're not even going to remove for fear of being called racist or Islamophobic, if you're not going to move people on the terrorist watch list, because you want to be that politically correct, your society's over.
	It's been taken over.
	Full Islamization is in place.
	Look, I w I was after the Charlie Hebdo attacks, I went to the no go areas in Marseille and I filmed there for Fox.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	They don't exist according to some people.
	You and I are the only two people that know they exist and will say they exist.
	Uh they kind of sort of exist.
	Oh, they exist.
	I call them no go, but they're really not fully no go.
	Okay.
	Well, let's talk about the people that I've interviewed that have been in no no go zones.
	We had a report on Fox years ago.
	Where literally the police say that's as far as we'll go.
	They won't go into some neighborhoods.
	I I didn't I didn't see that.
	But having said that, but let me know You're not the world traveler.
	How long did you spend trying to go into no go zones?
	I spent quite a bit of time.
	Three days?
	Yeah, something.
	Yeah, okay.
	Three just three full days.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I ate I had coffee there.
	All right.
	So my point was coffee in the no go zone.
	I did.
	Did they know you were Jewish or not?
	No, no, no.
	That that would be a problem.
	That would be a no go.
	Oh, you didn't wear the Star David?
	I did not wear my Yamaka on top of my own.
	And you didn't wear uh my Twilight.
	Yeah, you're not a messianic Jew.
	Yeah.
	But I will say this though when I went to these areas in Mar in Marseille and I interviewed on camera uh young kids about the Charlie Hebdo attacks, almost uniformly, they supported those attacks.
	Those attacks were not a in their view, a blight on their religion.
	In fact, it was quite the opposite.
	It was a badge of honor that people stood up to defend Mohammed when the Charlie Hubdo attacks.
	That's the issue and the problem that we're dealing with, man.
	It is radicalization is now at the point.
	Where it's uh almost mainstream.
	We keep asking this one main question.
	All right, where are the moderates?
	Why aren't the moderates involved?
	Why aren't the moderates saying something?
	Is because they'll be viewed as apostates and they themselves will come under attack and they don't want that to happen.
	So there's a lot of fear and intimidation within the community.
	Anyway, what's your next uh what's your next operation?
	Do you know yet?
	Why I could tell you that, but then I would ruin the entire thing.
	My whole thing's about surprise.
	What's your next operation?
	I got it.
	You don't have to tell me where.
	I got good stuff.
	You do.
	Listen, it takes a lot of guts doing it.
	It's sad.
	It's ISIS relationship.
	No, I'm gonna tell you something.
	It's sad what you just played from these kids in Portland.
	Portland, what is it, Portland State University?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's sad.
	All right, Ami.
	You're a halfway decent guy.
	Thank you for being with us.
	Uh 800 nine four one.
	Well, you're a wise ass, so you deserve it right back.
	Fair enough.
	Uh 800 nine four one Sean.
	Baltimore on full alert uh tonight as the Baltimore cop has been found not guilty in the first of what is now a few trials forthcoming.
	When we come back as promised, Juanita Broderick, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willie, they all came up in my interview with Donald Trump last week, and we'll get their reaction to that and more.
	Hey, all right, Ami, you ever have a computer crash?
	Absolutely, all the time.
	Did you ever get ransomware virus yet?
	Where your computer shuts down and you gotta pay ransom to get your computer working again.
	That's a thing?
	Yeah.
	You don't know yep.
	I haven't seen I see that.
	Get out of here.
	All right.
	What about what Clinton's done?
	How big an issue should that be in the campaign?
	For example, I I looked at the New York Times.
	Are they going to interview Juanita Broderick?
	Are they going to interview Paula Jones?
	Are they going to interview Kathleen Willie?
	In one case it's about exposure, and another case it's about groping and fondling and touching against a woman's will.
	And rape.
	And rape.
	Big settlements.
	Massive settlements.
	$850,000 for Paula Jones.
	Lots of other things.
	And impeachment for lying.
	Smearing.
	Okay.
	Uh couldn't practice law.
	And you don't read about this on Clinton.
	Let me ask you.
	Now the New York Times and if you look at Stephanopoulos, uh, these are like the pipe organs for Hillary Clinton.
	All right.
	That was my interview with Donald Trump last week.
	And yes, it was a big deal that he made uh use of the R word talking about Juanita Broderick and joining us now, Kathleen Willie, author of the book Target, caught in the crosshairs of Bill and Hillary Clinton.
	Juanita Broderick, who I interviewed many years ago, is with us as well, and Paula Jones.
	Well, she actually won her lawsuit against Bill Clinton and made a a payout, but a long story behind uh all three of these women.
	Uh welcome all of you back to the program.
	Hi, Sean.
	Hey, let me start with Juanita.
	Juanita, did you see the interview last week and when I was going through these issues with Donald Trump and he jumped in before I got to what you had told me now on a number of occasions that Bill Clinton raped you?
	Yes, I did see it.
	And and even though it was hard to hear, I think I've told you several times that it's hard for me to say the word rape.
	I always usually say sexual assault.
	But rape is the perfect terminology for what happened.
	What did it make you feel you know, Hillary Clinton once said that women that make allegations should be believed and trusted, uh I guess, except in the case of anybody that makes uh an accusation against her husband.
	Exactly.
	She doesn't want to hear that.
	Juanita, I'm not gonna ask you again today.
	I know every time I have asked you, it's painful for you to go back and tell the entire story and we actually replayed part of my last interview with you on this program last week.
	What I want to focus in on though today with you is you were at this conference in Little Rock with a friend of yours at a nursing conference and she saw you immediately after this event happened where he did assault you correct?
	Right, within twenty or thirty minutes.
	Yeah and she saw that your your lip was was puffed up and bleeding and she saw you were in such distress and you told her right then what had happened.
	Is that correct?
	Yes I did immediately Norma Ro Norma Rogers was her name back then but it's Norma Kelsey now.
	And she has corroborated this many many times that you told her right then and there.
	Right.
	Yeah and how many other people Juanita did you tell at the time?
	Probably four or five.
	Right and all of those people I know you had a boyfriend at the time you told him correct?
	Right.
	And who were the other two people?
	The other uh three people uh were uh Norma's sister Jean Darden and Susan Lewis who was a dear friend I was godch godmother to her children and Kathleen uh Emerson at the time was her name it's now Krigler she was my roommate in nurses training.
	Yeah and they've all been they've all corroborated that you told them at the time because a lot of questions are set uh people have raised though well why did Juanita Broderick not tell her story back at the time now the person the Bill Clinton at the time was the attorney general of the state of Arkansas correct?
	Oh that's right.
	You know who would say anything against him.
	Yeah and all I wanted to do was to forget about it and go home.
	And that is not an uncommon reaction.
	As a matter of fact I think it happens more often than not isn't that true haven't we learned that over the years as it relates to and when you told these women did any of them suggest that you reported to the police?
	No one person that I talked to I think they agreed this was just something I couldn't do.
	Unbelievable because of the power of the man that we're we're talking about here and then he callously after this all took place and you had a a fat bloody lip I'll never forget the first time I met you I went down to Arkansas and I interviewed you in your home and you you told me the story where he said here you better throw some ice on this and he walked calmly walks to the door and puts on his sunglasses and turns and says you better put some ice on that I was shocked.
	And tell the story about Hillary Clinton and how you had a meeting sometime after that where you met her and she knew who you were had you ever met her before?
	No I had never met her before and I had to be pointed out to her as I've told you Sean I went to this um gathering for him I was still in a state of shock and felt like it was my fault.
	I felt like it was my fault and I just had to accept it for letting him come to my room that was just how we felt back then.
	Yeah you were going to have coffee with him you wanted to pursue some issues that you cared about involving your profession of nursing and he called you and said oh well the coffee shop is crowded would you mind if I come up and have coffee upstairs with you you think he's the attorney general you didn't think it was a risk to you in any way and you invited him up I felt apprehensive but he was the attorney general I mean I did not I believed him.
	I believed it would not have been uh good to meet down in the coffee shop.
	I believed him I even ordered coffee to the room.
	You know uh Linda sent me this statistic the majority of sexual assaults are not reported to the police by the way this is in this day and age an average of sixty eight percent of assaults in the last five years were not reported.
	I mean that is a that is a very common thing.
	So why did you decide when you first were interviewed by Lisa Myers why did you decide to tell your story I I just felt that the that it was time that I had made a huge mistake by not coming forward sooner and by denying it.
	I had denied it because you were afraid oh yes yes I was afraid and tell everybody again about the Hillary encounter so you you she knew who you were, even though you had never met her.
	Well, she didn't know who I was, I don't think, until she came in the door.
	But my friend Chuck Watts, who was a pharmacist here uh in Van Buren, drove them from the airport and he came over to me.
	I was hoping to get out before they got there, uh, at this gathering, after I gave him my information.
	And before I could, Chuck came over to me and said that that the topic of the conversation the entire way from the airport, which is about twenty minutes, was about me.
	And before I could get away, uh out the door, I see somebody in the kitchen pointing her toward me, and she comes directly over to me and starts her little talk about how appreciative she was of everything I was doing in Bill's campaign.
	And I started to just leave.
	I I didn't want to have anything to do with her.
	And you felt that she knew my arm in my hand.
	Yeah.
	And she pulled me back into her and said very low.
	She said uh, do you understand everything you do?
	And it frightened me.
	I to say the least.
	Yeah.
	And my two friends and I left.
	And you had no doubt in your mind that she knew.
	I I I I know she did.
	People have written on Twitter and other things was and even Andrea Mitchell and and when she was questioning me, saying, Well, how do you know?
	You know when somebody acts like she did toward me and pulls me into her so no one can hear her and says those words to me.
	I knew what she meant.
	She knew what she meant.
	It almost gives you a chill that something like this could happen and that the wife would know.
	What does it mean to you and and then we're gonna get to Paul uh uh Paula Jones and and Kathleen who were patiently standing by too.
	What does it mean to you to hear Donald Trump take up your case and what does it mean to you to hear Hillary Clinton go out campaigning on on gender issues and and protecting her husband after all these years?
	Oh, I think it's just disgusting what she's saying and what she's doing.
	And I'm so appreciative to Donald Trump for bringing it I I I couldn't.
	It's very difficult for me to bring it forward because it's still too painful.
	But I appreciate his efforts.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	That's uh it's very hard.
	I I've actually told people when I when I have been asked or interviewed by other people about meeting you, meeting Kathleen, meeting Paula, meeting Dolly Kyle, meeting other women, and they asked me, Well, did you believe them?
	And I say, a hundred thousand percent.
	Well, thank you.
	And that that's my answer because I that's what I believe.
	I remember looking you in the eye.
	It was very hard to do that interview when I first met you in Arkansas.
	I was no.
	It just was for me, you know, and and uh by the way, I'm not saying it was hard for me, it was hard to hear this.
	I know.
	Yeah.
	Uh Paula, welcome back to the program.
	How are you?
	I'm good.
	How are you doing?
	I'm good.
	Hi ladies.
	Hi, Paula.
	Now have you have you all ever met?
	I know Kathleen and Paula have met.
	Have you have you all met Juan either?
	Kathleen and I have met.
	Yeah, but I've I've never met Paula.
	Okay.
	I have not met Paula either.
	But I've talked to Paula the I talked to Paula for the first time last week.
	I guess all right.
	Well, I know you all, so I have the benefit of knowing all of you individually.
	So um Paula, you know, so you were working for the government.
	Tell the story because this really ended up this ended up with Bill Clinton losing his law license, being impeached, uh paying eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
	It you were very successful in your suit, but it wasn't easy for you.
	Tell everybody, bring us back to that day you met him and what happened.
	Well, I was working um at the Arkansas Industrial Development Commission and I was asked to be um to work the governor's quality conference that was coming.
	So me and one of my coworkers who was a good friend of mine at the time, um, we worked it together and we sat out front in front of these tables in front of the uh the ballroom.
	And uh during that time we were wait they were waiting on um Bill Clinton and he was always known to be late everywhere he went and people you know would laugh about that.
	That was a a laughing thing in Arkansas and um he was running late so his security uh that was already there in place was coming over and talking with us.
	Right.
	And so you know, and we were we would ask him, I don't know if I'm supposed to say his name or not, but anyway he was he was talking with us and everything and we asked him, you know, are you car you know, packing a gun?
	He showed us his gun on his um up here on his side underneath his suit coat and um because he was in plain clothes, you know, which is slacks and a and a jacket.
	So we'd been talking with him and stuff, and um and then Bill Clinton came out and um he was doing an interview in front of us and in front of the table and all the media and stuff was there, several media was there, and that's the first time I've ever seen you in my life was right there, and I was on the other side of the table sitting there working the conference.
	And what I was doing was passing out brochures and stuff for different business people and leaders that were coming in, you know, t to the conference and giving them their name tags.
	That's what me and my co-worker's job was.
	So we were staying there the whole time.
	We were man in the desk out front, so we weren't really leaving it much at all unless we had to go to the bathroom or something.
	So he came up and he was um doing an interview and he was kind of staring at us over at us, and um you could tell he was looking at us.
	And um And by by isn't that something like a girl normally knows?
	I have three sisters, you know.
	Uh you and I talked to my wife about you know if you're being quote checked out.
	You didn't know.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	By the way, that never happens to me.
	So I just want you to know.
	So I don't know what you're talking about.
	You know, but you're just not paying attention.
	Yeah, no, it just never happened.
	I wish it did, I'd be able to say it happened.
	I have somebody check me out.
	Look at that.
	But it doesn't.
	You're just not noticing.
	Oh, sure.
	It's called the Clinton Ice Sweep.
	Oh.
	Oh.
	Now I've now I need Kathleen, and I need to take a shower.
	Come on, seriously.
	You sure don't want Hillary giving you the clean and ice weight pie.
	Paula, thanks a lot, Paula.
	You're really you're r you're ruining my life here.
	Go ahead.
	So tell me so so you're just sitting there doing your job.
	You would never see you'd never seen him before.
	He's well never seen him.
	And he's the governor at this point, correct?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And and so all so y he's checking you out, then what happens?
	Well, and you know, and I who for all I know, he could have been checking out the pregnant girl beside me too, you know, the way his reputation is now, but you know, we didn't know.
	We just knew he was looking at us.
	So, you know, he went on and went in and we were out there and and then um the state trooper came over again and hung out with us after he went inside and made sure he was wherever, I guess, and there was some others I think with him.
	And he was just kind of outside making sure nobody I guess busted in, you know.
	And um he just hung out with us and and then he would leave a little bit and then maybe come back and and then here after all he said, Hey, he said the governor would like to meet with you.
	I mean, my co-worker were like well, why don't you want to meet with him?
	He said it's okay, we do this all the time.
	He said he does this all the time.
	He's got a regular suite upstairs.
	And he's in that all governors have this.
	Well uh my first thing is I said, Well, I I'm not gonna go up there and he said, Oh, it's okay, you know, we do this all the time and he said it's like a um an office governors have for meetings and stuff.
	Stay right there.
	We're gonna pick Paula's story up when she's about to go up and meet Clinton in his suite and what happens.
	You just heard from Juita Broderick, Kathleen Willie will also tell her story.
	I know the mainstream media, the New York Times hasn't spent a lot of time featuring these women and and their allegations.
	They tried to smear Trump last week, but that didn't work out so well.
	Those stories were debunked.
	I want to send a message to every survivor of sexual assault.
	Don't let anyone silence your voice.
	You have a right to be heard and you have a right to be believed.
	We're with you.
	Right to be heard and a right to be believed.
	And don't let anybody silence you.
	Unless of course your name is Juanita Broderick, Kathleen Willie or Paula Jones, who we continue with.
	Uh we had just heard from Juanita Broderick in a harrowing story that she went through in a a sexual assault.
	Uh this came up last week when I was interviewing Donald Trump.
	Paula Jones was in the middle of telling her story.
	She met then Governor Bill Clinton at a conference.
	She worked for the state and now she was being propositioned to go up to his suite by I guess what?
	One of his security guards?
	Yes.
	Okay, so he says, Oh, we do this all the time.
	It's okay, you can come up to the suite.
	You're a little reluctant.
	Was it just you or somebody else?
	No, I I mean I was I was very reluctant and I talked it over with my co-worker and and we're like, Oh, well, maybe he wants to do something about you know getting us a different job or something, a bare big job.
	Of course we're so stupid and naive.
	You know, we're like twenty three years old, you know.
	And so I mean, I was then we were all got excited.
	I mean, why wouldn't I get excited?
	I heard Juanita play ago.
	Why wouldn't I?
	I should not ever have the thought ever never crossed my mind that I was gonna go up there and he would do that.
	Ever.
	I mean, I would never think that.
	Of course, so so tell the story.
	So the guy walks you up to the suite for people who haven't heard it before.
	And there's a whole millennial generation that really does not know your stories.
	Now I've known you all for years.
	You've all become friends of mine.
	I mean, I have respect for all of you.
	Um for those that have not heard, so you walk go up to the suite.
	I guess the guy walked you up there.
	Oh, you know what?
	Uh can y'all just hang on.
	I have a sheriff control sheriff guy at my house.
	I'm sorry.
	Can y'all go to somebody else come back?
	That's all right.
	We'll we'll pick it up.
	Listen, this is live radio folks.
	No, that's all right.
	We'll get back to well we'll we know exactly where to pick it up.
	We'll come get back to Paula Jones in a second.
	Kathleen Willie is also with us.
	Kathleen, this was a bad day in your life.
	You were struggling financially, your husband was distraught.
	You went to somebody you thought was a friend, he was the president at the time.
	I mean, it's interesting that the the pattern of behavior continues because when he assaulted Juanita, he was the attorney general.
	When he did this with Paula, he was the governor.
	Now he's the president of the United States.
	He knew you, correct?
	Yeah.
	And you you had financial troubles.
	You needed a job.
	Yes.
	My husband had told me two weeks prior to that meeting about some serious financial troubles that he had gotten himself into.
	And you know, we we were in serious financial trouble.
	We had one in college and one on her way to medical school and a nice life.
	He told me what was going on and I mean he he he faced possible jail time, it was that serious.
	And um he made a bad mistake.
	You know, I just said, Well, I'm gonna go to the president and ask him uh and and tell him that I need a job.
	And I had absolutely no trouble whatsoever in doing it.
	I I was I was criticized.
	I mean you were horribly you were by all of the feminists, believe it or not, after after that.
	But who does she think she is?
	Well, because he was our friend, because we had started Virginia for Clinton, we had raised a lot of money for him.
	We had uh opened giving them an office and my husband's suite of uh uh uh law offices.
	We had seen him on numerous occasions at different um uh different fundraises all over the state and and in other states.
	We saw him at the inaugural.
	I took a I had a part in the inaugural.
	We were friends.
	And so when I went to see him, I asked to see him, I got a few minutes, I he could see that I was set.
	I was more upset by the fact that I had not been able to contact him all day long.
	His office didn't know where his wa his assistant didn't know where he was.
	I had called him fifteen times, I didn't know where he was, I was upset about that.
	And when I got into the Oval Office, I was I was crying.
	I was that upset.
	And and now let me just backtrack one second, Kathleen.
	So you were able to get in because he knew you.
	You worked to get him elected.
	You were on his campaign team.
	Yeah.
	I mean, not everybody gets in the Oval Office, so he knew you well enough to to schedule.
	Right in the social office.
	So I was there at the time.
	Right.
	So you were able to have access that very few people would have.
	He knew you by name, you were a friend of his.
	He took he'll he gave you the meeting, and then tell so you go in and you tell him that you have all these troubles, and then what happened?
	Well, uh it's same kind of thing with Paula and with Juanita.
	He said, Well, well, let's go back would you like a cup of coffee and I said yes and he said, Well let's go back here to to my uh the little kitchen at and where we could have some privacy and I thought, Well, uh that's okay.
	I mean I didn't think anything of it.
	So we he there was a steward in there and I noticed that he kinda ushered him out of the over office out of the whole area and I really didn't pay attention to it until afterwards.
	But anyway, he said, um poured me a cup of coffee and he said, Let's go sit in my study here where we can talk.
	Well, that was the study as I found out later where he and Monica used to meet.
	And so I knew I had a very short window of time and he sat down and in a chair and I never did.
	I just leaned up against the door jam and I told him what was going on and I just said we're in we're in deep financial trouble.
	Yeah, my husband could go to jail.
	He's embarrassed, he's ashamed of himself, he's done a bad thing, I've gotta help him, I need a job.
	And if you if there's anything that you can do to help me, I would be most appreciative.
	You know, and and I just said it doesn't have to be here, it doesn't have to be in the White House, if it could be in Richmond, it w a federal job in Richmond, that would really be big a big help.
	But I need a job and I'm asking you for help.
	There was a a little bit more s small talk.
	I think he was asking me a few more details and and I was in a hurry to get out of there because I knew they had fit me in and that I knew that he had a meeting after that.
	That's all I knew.
	And so I thanked him for time and I I thanked and I I I said and and I and I hope that you will consider helping me.
	You at this point you're m my my best option.
	So uh as I turned to leave to head out towards the door back into the over office, the next thing I knew he had me back into a corner all over me, we got whispering in my ear.
	I didn't know what to do.
	I just I was it was just like Paula and Munita said I y you know, I don't you don't know what to do.
	And I'm thinking to myself, what in the world is he doing?
	That's all I could think of what is he doing?
	And he star but and uh look I uh let me help you out because I I I it's very uncomfortable to ask you all to tell this story again, although I know there's new audience here.
	But you're talking about he assaulted you.
	He did w what?
	Yeah.
	His hand his hands up my skirt, he put my hand on his crotch, I mean you know he he cr he had his hands on my breast.
	I mean he his hands were all over me.
	And you know, whispering in my ear that I've been wanting to do this since the f first time I ta I met you, I saw you.
	And and I'm you know, th my mind is racing and I'm thinking and I I remember saying to him, I aren't you afraid somebody's gonna walk in here like Hillary or s or anybody?
	And he said, No.
	Uh not I know where everybody is all the time.
	At that point his aide, Andrew Friendly, started banging on the door, saying, Mr. President, you you have a meeting.
	You there are people waiting for you.
	And he totally ignored it.
	I thought to myself, Here here's my out and he totally ignored it and he really had me over overpowered.
	He's a big man and I'm not I'm I'm short.
	I mean, I'm little and and um no I'm five to three on a good day.
	It's just this sounds ridiculous.
	How long did this go how long did this go on for?
	You know, it seemed like forever, but you know, I I guess maybe three or four minutes, maybe I maybe n that long uh you know, it just at least three or four minutes.
	May maybe maybe five.
	You know, listening to you and listening to Juanita, remember, for Juanita it's when he's attorney general.
	For Paula, it's when he's the governor of Arkansas.
	For y in your case it's when he's president of the United States.
	And by the way and then on top of that, then we have consensual incidences where he had a long term affair with Jennifer Flowers and other women and and then the whole Monica Lewinsky thing comes up.
	And so you're talking about a serial predator.
	I mean that's what you that's what the three of you were describing and not somebody that's changed over time.
	Yeah.
	Let me ask the I guess the next most important thing.
	So you finally get out of there, then your your life changed forever because you lost your husband that day.
	He committed suit he took his own life.
	He committed suicide that day and now your life is e now you don't know what to think or do.
	Did you ever hear from him again after that?
	Yes.
	he called me.
	When he found out the next day.
	When I went to see him, it was on the Monday after Thanksgiving.
	I I spent that entire night after I got home at the uh you know back to Richmond because I w I was commuting between Richmond and Washington on the train.
	I spent half of the night looking for him anywhere.
	A anywhere.
	No.
	And then Clinton called you after he found out.
	Nobody had heard from him, and I was calling his friends.
	I I was going I I was checking you know, bars.
	I was you know, a anywhere and any w anywhere that he could have been.
	And I couldn't find him.
	I forgot I was in such a state that I I stopped at a friend at uh uh quote unquote friend's house i in just a panic because she lived near me to tell her that I couldn't find him and what was going on.
	And I called her just very quickly and I said, and on top of all that, you'll you know, you'll you'll you'll never guess what happened it to me in the Oval Office.
	I mean it it's unbelievable.
	How many people did you tell at the time?
	I told her that night, I told Linda Tripp after it happened when I because she w was I was working with uh I I I ran in I went to see her, could tell her.
	And then I told um an another woman who I worked with in the um in the social office who's no longer alive, and I told another woman later later on and all these women are on the record as saying you told them at the time too, just like Juanita, right?
	Yes, but but but one of them the f the one that had been my friend for twenty years was was bought out by the Clintons and turned and tried to turn me into a complete liar.
	And I mean this woman didn't know anything about Washington or how it worked, and all of a sudden she d showed up with the most powerful attorneys in Washington signing all kinds of affidavits about about all uh about my going and telling her what had happened and and and this is so what is so ridiculous.
	I'm running out of I'm running out of time here.
	So I I wanna make sure and and and Juanita, this is for you too.
	Both of you experienced intimidation.
	And Kathleen, you were intimidated, correct?
	My children's lives were threatened, Sean.
	People came up to you, tell that story.
	Two days before my deposition in Pa uh in in Paula's case, I w I was out jogging early one morning.
	I live in a very rural area.
	It's hard to find me.
	I ha I was new here, I hadn't met all my neighbors.
	I had a lot of strange ha things happen to me, pets disappeared, pets killed, cars vandalized, you name it.
	All kinds of strange phone calls, and a man approached me who looked like a jogger, and he stopped me and he asked me if I had ever found my cat.
	First really serious thing that happened was what that one of my cats disappeared into thin air.
	And I put signs up, his name, everything, and my phone number.
	And he said, Did you ever find Bullseye?
	And I said, No, I no I didn't, and I'm still looking for him.
	Juanita, well what happened uh waneda, what happened to you in terms of intimidation?
	Because every woman that has spoken out, even the women that just had affairs, their names were smeared and slandered and besmirched.
	And this even happened to you last week with Andrea Mitchell.
	Oh, isn't that the truth?
	I was just shocked when she came out with that announcement on the television.
	Um I have not had what Kathleen has.
	I've never had experience someone coming and actually threatened me.
	I've I know I've been followed back before the date line interview uh by numerous people who would just follow me around town.
	Uh but as far as being threatened, other than when I talked with Hillary, no, I have not been.
	And by the way, when Andrea Mitchell says that your story was discredited and it was her colleague Lisa Myers, when MBC was not going to air your interview at one point, and there were, you know, free Lisa Myers, free Juanita Broderick buttons popping up and they got pressured into doing it.
	Um she called you and said the problem is you're too credible.
	Yeah, no, Lisa called me and said uh there's good news and there's bad news.
	The good news is you're credible.
	The bad news is you're too credible.
	In other words, that they watch the tape and they're like, Oh my gosh, this woman's telling the truth.
	Yeah, that's why they held it till after the impeachment.
	I'm positive.
	Yeah.
	I think you had an exclusive with them and you had granted it, but I gotta run.
	Um thank you both for being with us.
	We really appreciate it.
	Um I will know we'll talk again.
	Juanita Broderick, Kathleen Willie, and I know I speak for a lot of people.
	We're all sorry that um that you have gone through everything you've gone through.
	We're gonna check in with Paula Jones.
	We hope she's okay and that it was nothing serious.
	Thank you all for being with us.
	Appreciate it.
	Thanks, Sean.

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