Senator Ted Cruz made headlines with his unconventional move to name Carly Fiorina as his running mate before securing the nomination. Sean breaks down the decision and dives into who Trump might choose. The Sean Hannity Show is live Monday through Friday from 3pm - 6pm ET on iHeart Radio and Hannity.com. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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| Senator Ted Cruz will, in fact, name Carly Fiorina as his running mate should he become the Republican nominee. | |
| I have a lot of thoughts on that. | |
| We'll get to that. | |
| We also have big results out of uh the five states from yesterday, the latest Super Tuesday, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Rhode Island, clean sweep, five for five for Donald Trump, and uh four out of five for Hillary Clinton. | |
| So much to talk about today. | |
| Look, I let me start here because I know how emotional people are about this race. | |
| You gotta remember, you know, what are elections about? | |
| What are governments built for? | |
| Thomas Payne once said that, you know, if the guides and dictates of human conscience were irresistibly obeyed, there would be no need for any lawgivers. | |
| But that not being the case, that represents the formation of government and civil society, etc. | |
| The people are what matters in elections. | |
| Right now, the government of the United States of America is pursuing policies that are extraordinarily harmful to we, the people, to you, the American people. | |
| That's why I keep reminding people that we have 95 million Americans out of the labor force. | |
| I gave you a statistic yesterday. | |
| Fully 20% of American families, not one member of that family has a job. | |
| Not at all. | |
| We have become a dependency society. | |
| We have become a society that government now is trying to take over every aspect of our lives. | |
| They don't allow us to become energy independent. | |
| They've now pursued our health care, which they have put into ruins our health care system. | |
| They won't control our borders. | |
| That makes us vulnerable. | |
| That increases competition for drop jobs, drives down wages. | |
| We pay more money per student per capita than any other country on earth with the worst results for any dollar spent, and government is failing. | |
| And the same government, by the way, that stole your Social Security money that they were going to put in a lockbox. | |
| They promised you. | |
| Just like they promised you to keep your doctor, keep your plan, and you'll save $2,500 a year. | |
| The average health care plan across the country is up 35 to 50% this year. | |
| Yesterday, the people said that by some 60 plus percent margin, reinforcing previous polls now that have been going on for months, that Republicans feel betrayed by Washington Republicans. | |
| By the way, those Republicans have earned that distinction. | |
| That has caused, as I have said, all throughout this campaign, the insurgency that you see. | |
| They won't take the blame. | |
| They won't acknowledge they are wrong. | |
| They won't admit they've been weak and timid and ineffective and feckless in dealing with the Obama agenda. | |
| They won't admit that they put the they prioritize their own power over fighting the president's radical agenda. | |
| They won't acknowledge any of that. | |
| And as a result, the people are rising up in massive numbers and saying some 83% yesterday believe that it's time for an outsider. | |
| Now that's the P these are exit poll numbers that I'm giving you. | |
| Fifty-seven percent of people yesterday voting are very worried about the economy. | |
| Of all the issues, 40% believe economy and jobs is the number one issue. | |
| I've always said peace and prosperity drive elections. | |
| It's true, it never changes. | |
| 71% believe that we need change dramatically. | |
| That's what voters were saying yesterday. | |
| Now, we started out this race with 17 people. | |
| I could make the case for any one of the 17. | |
| You know, think about it. | |
| Bobby Gendal and Rick Perry. | |
| I love Rick Perry. | |
| I've always Rick Perry did a great job as governor of Texas. | |
| Scott Walker's done a great job in in his state of Wisconsin. | |
| John Kasich, he's done a great job in in his state. | |
| Uh people like Senator Marco Rubio. | |
| I know he paid a price for comprehensive immigration. | |
| He is a star in the conservative movement. | |
| I don't care what anybody says. | |
| The guy has amazing qualities. | |
| He paid a price for a mistake he made. | |
| I don't think he'd ever make it again. | |
| Um you can you can look at any of these people. | |
| I can't even name outsiders like Carly Fiorina, who's going to be announced as Senator Cruz as VP today. | |
| Dr. Benjamin Carson, boy, did he not add a lot to this campaign cycle? | |
| Amazing guy. | |
| Love him. | |
| Uh Jeb Bush. | |
| All right, he he paid the price of his last name. | |
| Common core, immigration hurt him. | |
| But his time as governor of Florida, his record was amazing. | |
| Brought the state up to a triple A bond rating, created a million and a half new jobs, first state to ever implement choice and education and vouchers. | |
| I mean, amazing things, these governors. | |
| So I could make the case for any one of the 17. | |
| Great admiration for Senator Cruz. | |
| I mean, hated for taking on his own party, standing there for what, 20 some odd hours, filibustering, having the backbone that his colleagues didn't have. | |
| That's why he's done so well in this campaign, and from my perspective. | |
| So, but I know in the course of this experience, it's it the elections alike are motional rollercoasters, and there's ups and downs, and there's an ebb and flow. | |
| And right now we're down to three candidates, really two. | |
| I think the only two that have a path to the presidency are are Trump and Cruz. | |
| Obviously now, Donald Trump has a massive advantage. | |
| But there's really two people. | |
| Now, if you supported any one of the other 15 people, at some point in this race, you are probably disappointed, probably saddened, because you probably like most people that are interested in news and information, uh, that listen to talk radio or watch Fox, you care about your country. | |
| You hear statistics about 95 million Americans out of the labor force, 50 million in poverty, 46 million on food stamps, 20% of American families don't have one family member with a job. | |
| We now will accumulate more debt in the Obama years than every other president before you combined. | |
| Then we could talk about ISIS not acknowledging radical Islamic terrorism, the the the frayed relationship with our closest ally in the Middle East, Israel, Vladimir Putin flexing his muscles and mocking Obama and America, China's territorial ambitions in the China Sea, | |
| uh the Iranian nuclear deal given the radical Mullers, the number one state sponsor of terror, giving them access to 150 billion dollars in the capacity to build nuclear weapons uh and delivery systems to actually reach the United States of America, ballistic missile systems, and it's insane. | |
| These are insane times in which we're living in. | |
| And elections matter, and they have consequences. | |
| So I um I'm uh as somebody that's tried to bring you the access to the candidates that I think would be invaluable to you in the course of making your decision. | |
| I fully and completely understand that if you are a Ted Cruz supporter today, or a John Kasich supporter today, or if you're part of the Never Trump movement today, or a critic of Donald Trump today, that yesterday and probably the feelings have followed you through today that it that you don't feel good, that you're not happy with the results. | |
| If you're a Trump supporter, last night was probably as close to political nirvana as you're likely to get. | |
| I mean, he it was a massive five-state landslide, every state victory for Trump. | |
| Now, you have five five mid-Atlantic Eastern Seaboard states. | |
| He didn't just win them, he won by a landslide. | |
| And it was in every every single measure. | |
| It was deep in its scope. | |
| Its depth was enormous, and it means that Trump took very large strides to becoming the Republican nominee. | |
| He's not there yet. | |
| He didn't win yet. | |
| He still needs to get more delegates. | |
| Now, if Trump wins Indiana in six days, he might very well, that might pretty much lock things up for him. | |
| I'm just giving you my mathematical take on this, but even if he loses Indiana, and it's 57 winner-take all delegates, Trump would still be the favorite to win the nomination. | |
| Now, just look at the math. | |
| We now have uh the latest delegate count. | |
| Trump has 950 bound delegates. | |
| Ted Cruz has 560 bound delegates. | |
| John Kasich, one fifty-three. | |
| Marco Rubio still in third place with 171. | |
| You know, my only surprise, I I've always liked Carly Fiorina. | |
| Carly Friarina's tough as nails. | |
| I understand the importance right now for the Cruz campaign in picking Carly in the hopes that she might be able to have an impact where she's well known in California. | |
| I like her. | |
| She's extraordinarily smart. | |
| She's probably been one of the best at prosecuting the case, especially against Hillary. | |
| I understand the dynamic of putting a woman on the ticket, including, you know, maybe in this case to make the case against Trump. | |
| I actually like the fact that Cruz is in there fighting, and Carly is in there fighting. | |
| I think in the end it's going to make everybody stronger. | |
| Um I don't think a VP pick makes that big of a difference. | |
| You know, we saw that in the last election. | |
| I mean, Paul Ryan did not bring his home state of Wisconsin into the Mitt Romney column. | |
| wish it would have. | |
| Reagan tried it in 1976. | |
| He actually picked a liberal senator from Pennsylvania, Richard Schweiker. | |
| In Reagan's effort to stop Ford, but he was only 70 delegates behind at the time. | |
| People tend to vote for the top of the ticket, not the VP. | |
| Uh it may be too little too late. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Bobby Knight, I mean, is it's close to deity. | |
| I mean, it is a big, big endorsement in the state of Indiana has endorsed Donald Trump. | |
| And um that may help more than Carly in California. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Only time's gonna tell. | |
| We'll know a lot more a week from today. | |
| Night night is a massive following in in Indiana. | |
| Um is Ted Cruz's back against the wall? | |
| Yeah. | |
| The interesting thing though about Ted Cruz in this campaign is when his back has been against the wall and he's needed wins in Iowa and Wisconsin, he's been able to pull them out. | |
| So you can't count them out. | |
| Uh I don't think the alliance with Kasich has worked out that well. | |
| Um I think maybe in some respects it might have even backfired a little bit. | |
| But uh, I think he's looking at making a game changer. | |
| You can't fault somebody for thinking out of the box and doing these things. | |
| And I'm not sure if it had an impact at all, but maybe it did, maybe it didn't. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Um, but we have to see what happens here. | |
| Here's the danger, though. | |
| And I've been warning people. | |
| Danger is at the end of this process when there's only one winner. | |
| You got this never cruise campaign, you got the Never Trump campaign, the Cruise people hit the Trump people, Trump people hit the cruise people. | |
| All you have to do to see it is go read social media for five seconds. | |
| And it's it's there in all of its ugliness, but you know, I kind of like it because I I like irreverence. | |
| I like I like a good combative brawl. | |
| I mean, I practice MMA, I actually grapple and fight. | |
| So I don't mind fighting as much as the average person. | |
| I could probably relish in it a bit too much. | |
| So well, we're gonna know a lot more a week from now, but you cannot deny what happened last night was massive. | |
| Maryland, Trump won 54% of the vote, Pennsylvania, 57% of the vote. | |
| Connecticut, 58% of the vote, Delaware 61%, Rhode Island 64%. | |
| The margins were massive. | |
| 29, 31, 35, 40, and 41% margin of victory. | |
| In Delaware, for example, Trump won 61% of the vote. | |
| Kasich came in second, and he finished with 20%. | |
| That's three times his next closest competitor in that state. | |
| From a delegate hall perspective, this may have been last night, Trump's best single night of the campaign. | |
| And last we added to last week in New York, where he got 91 out of 95 delegates. | |
| Trump has now won a majority of Republican voters in a single contest. | |
| Now he's done it six times in a row, and he entered the evening needing 58% of remaining bound delegates. | |
| He ended the night needing only 50% of bound delegates. | |
| If he carries New Jersey on June second, which he should easily, if he were to get Indiana, he'd only then need 38% of the delegates in the other eight states. | |
| Although some of them are winner take all. | |
| And I'm going to give for cruise supporters out there, I will give you what the path for cruise is at this point. | |
| I'm not sure. | |
| And for all of Trump's attacks on the on the system, uh heading into last night he had won. | |
| You know, uh it it just has worked out in equally in everybody's favor as far as I'm concerned. | |
| Just to say that. | |
| He gave a a foreign policy speech, which we'll examine later in the program today, with a teleprompter. | |
| It was a pretty powerful speech. | |
| If you're a critic of Trump, you probably didn't like aspects of it. | |
| I expect that some people might say isolationist, but I didn't see it that way. | |
| But it was certainly from a perspective of America looking out for America's interest first and making alliances only with people that are capable of reciprocating and standing strong and reaching out to potential from reaching out to advert adversaries for potential win-win situations. | |
| I'll give you the specifics of all that. | |
| I know it sounds somewhat nuanced and you know obscure at this moment, but I I just don't have the time to get into it this second. | |
| So let me give you more stats from last night. | |
| As of last night and this morning, the vote totals are the following. | |
| Trump has 10, 128,701 votes. | |
| Ted Cruz has six million nine hundred and eleven thousand thirty-eight votes. | |
| John Kasich has three million six hundred and ninety-eight thousand and thirteen votes as of right now. | |
| So uh one fascinating thing, uh if you look if you like statistics, this was in politico today. | |
| I'm just passing them along. | |
| After the results across the Northeast, Trump now is passed, as I just said, the 10 million vote mark. | |
| That is already about 250,000 more than Romney earned in the entire 2012 primary season, a hundred and fifty-three thousand more than John McCain earned in two thousand and eight, and more significantly, Trump is positioned to easily pass the modern record holder, which is George W. Bush, who collected 10.8 million votes. | |
| That was in 2000. | |
| So that then presents a pretty uncomfortable reality for the anti-Trump forces. | |
| They're attempting to thwart the candidate that could be the person that has won more Republican primary votes than any other GOP contender in the last thirty-six years, and maybe ever, in an email to Politico, University of Minnesota political science professor, Eric uh Ostermeyer noted that only eight candidates have won more than 7.5 million Republican primary votes since the advent of the modern primary and caucus system. | |
| Reagan had 7.7 million in 1980, the fewest other than George Bush's 7.6 million in 2004 when he didn't face a primary challenge. | |
| George at Herbert Walker Bush had 8.2 million in 88, 9.2 million in 92, Bob Dole 8.4 million. | |
| So I mean, these are pretty historic numbers. | |
| Now, I want to go back to what our friend, you know, what we're learning about, all right. | |
| Where do these 54 unbound delegates because that's not included in the delegate count, but if you look at those that said they would either support the the person that got the won the district, which in that case that includes about 18 to 20 people, coupled with you have 31 Trump delegates actually voted outright in Pennsylvania. | |
| That's not included in the delegate count. | |
| So that brings him to 981. | |
| Then you've got of the 23 uncommitted, uh, another 20 said whoever wins the district. | |
| Well, if they stick by their word, that puts Trump 1,001 delegates at this point. | |
| If that's if that's if that's what they do in the end. | |
| Remember, they're unbound, they don't not force to. | |
| Um, so it makes the the system a little bit complicated. | |
| Hence my support of three rule changes. | |
| One, state should be able to choose primary or caucus, two, they should pick winner take all or proportional distribution, and three, I think on the first round of voting at least, that delegates should at least represent the people's vote one time. | |
| And that would be, in other words, it would be no more unbound delegates. | |
| Certainly you don't want to adopt what the Democrats have, which is the superdelegate system. | |
| So we'll see what happens there. | |
| Um, and now the battle goes to Indiana. | |
| And Indiana is now poised to be front and center in this race in a in a massive way. | |
| You know, I d does Trump continue his momentum. | |
| Can Ted Cruz stop him in Indiana? | |
| Because if you look at where if you look now, we have an opportunity to look at the entire map of states now where that have taken place. | |
| And you have Trump dominating east of the Mississippi River. | |
| Every state from New England to the Bible Belt with three exceptions. | |
| Maine, which was Kasich's home state of I'm sorry, I'm saying Maine, Kasich's home state of Ohio. | |
| Um, and his only win so far in Wisconsin, which was a big win for Senator Cruz. | |
| And according to Politico, with his five blowout wins Tuesday, Trump passed Romney's popular vote total, as I just told told you. | |
| So Indiana now, I think for all intent and purposes, although people probably may disagree, it's kind of do or die for Senator Ted Cruz. | |
| Now you can't cut him out, uh, count him out. | |
| Why? | |
| Because Ted Cruz has proven when his back is against the wall, he has this incredible ability to bounce back. | |
| And when he needed to win Iowa, he won it. | |
| And when he needed to win Wisconsin, he won it. | |
| So Indiana is is sort of a really important, you know, that's a firewall, I would argue, state at this point. | |
| Uh so we're going to be following things very closely in the Hoosier State between now and then. | |
| Um, you know, if you talk to well-placed Republicans in Indiana, they'll tell you several things. | |
| One, the Cruz Kasich Alliance did not play well in Indiana, and I've talked to a lot of people, those that support Cruz, Kasich, and Trump. | |
| And it looks like much inside political, much of an inside political move, but that's this is an outsider insurgent year. | |
| Um, so he once referred to uh a basketball hoop as a ring. | |
| Uh, you know, some people say that made a big deal. | |
| I don't think so. | |
| By the way, I was the biggest Larry Bird fan. | |
| I Larry Byrd and Magic Johnson were like the golden era of basketball. | |
| It was so good. | |
| From the time they were in college all the way through their professional careers, amazing. | |
| Two very extraordinarily talented people. | |
| But anyway, so um Bobby Knight will endorse Trump. | |
| That's probably the biggest endorsement you can get in Indiana. | |
| I'm guessing that Cruz knows all of this, which is why in about 20 minutes from right now, he's expected to announce that Carly Fiorina will be his choice as vice president if he is in fact a Republican nominee. | |
| Fairly unusual. | |
| Um, un not unprecedented, but by announcing the Cruz Kasich Alliance, and what Cruz is is doing isn't unprecedented, because as I said earlier, Reagan did this, announced he was gonna run with a liberal Richard Schweiker in 1976, and that was an attempt to win Pennsylvania's delegates. | |
| It didn't work for Reagan at the time, but he needed to do something to try and change the dynamic of the race. | |
| So you got to give a lot of credit that they're thinking out of the box in the Cruz campaign, and they don't give up. | |
| You know, as uh my kids play sports and they play tennis, you know, I'll describe certain kids that they're playing, opponents that they're playing as that person's never going away. | |
| That person is not going to give up if you're up six love, five love, forty love. | |
| That person is gonna fight for the last point, and you've got to recognize that's what the game is. | |
| And so Cruz is fighting hard, and the situation is uh a little bit more difficult than even what Reagan faced, because last night was not only better than what I think people were predicting for Trump, it was not a good night for Ted Cruz. | |
| He not only lost, but he finished third behind Kasich in four of the five states. | |
| He only pulled in 10, 12, 16, 19, and 22 percent of the vote in the five states that held contests yesterday. | |
| And to date, in more than 40 contests, Cruz has won non-evangelicals only once, and Trump seems to be expanding his appeal among college educated and women voters in Republican contests. | |
| Dan Balls at the Washington Post reminds us that Cruz was supposed to win South Carolina in February based on his own internal game plan and did not. | |
| And Cruz was supposed to have a big night on March 1st when many southern states voted, and that's the night that he won Texas and Oklahoma, but Trump won Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, and Tennessee. | |
| And Trump has also done very well with evangelicals in at least as many states as Cruz. | |
| So among GOP voters Who do not have college degree. | |
| Trump had won 18 states, four for Cruz. | |
| Trump also won among uh so-called somewhat conservative in 18 states, three for Cruz. | |
| John Pet Horitz, who's very anti-Trump, wrote a piece in the New York Post that Cruz is crumbling. | |
| I'm not sure I agree with that yet. | |
| I think you gotta win the game. | |
| Uh but it's certainly the mid-Atlantic East and Seaboard was not good for for him. | |
| Carly Fiorina's extraordinarily talented. | |
| I've love Carly. | |
| She's great. | |
| Articulate, very strong in prosecuting a case, maybe as good as anybody in this campaign against Hillary. | |
| But I'm not sure that it makes much of a difference. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I just that's going to be up to you, the voters and all of that. | |
| There was a piece written in the resurgent today by Drew Ryan, and he was making the case that after New York and after what happened last night, that the media's got it all wrong, that um these were all predictable results, and um that May is not going to be a good month for Donald Trump. | |
| His analysis is the month of May is going to be a death march for Trump. | |
| He writes, quote, he's not going to win Indiana. | |
| Well, the polls don't show that. | |
| But okay, let's say if you're interested in a path for Cruz, he's writing this path. | |
| So if Cruz does win Indiana, and he says he's looking at internal polls as a matter of of the basis of his analysis, as opposed to public polling. | |
| He says if Trump wins nine delegates in Indiana, that would be a good day for him. | |
| He might win a majority of the delegates out of West Virginia on May 10th to get in the neighborhood of 960, but he's not including the 50 delegates that are committed to him in Pennsylvania last night. | |
| I mean, I think those are fairly rock solid. | |
| You know, it's not just the 17 delegates that he wins at large by winning the state. | |
| So nobody is counting that in their analysis. | |
| And then he goes on, Nebraska, forget about it for Trump. | |
| Those 36 will go to Cruz. | |
| Oregon. | |
| He writes, yes, I'm fully aware of the Cruz Kasich Detente regarding Oregon, but the majority of the delegates there are not going Trump. | |
| The same in Washington State, where most of its 44 delegates go to Cruz. | |
| Montana and South Dakota, he writes, is cruise country. | |
| Trump will not win one of 56 delegates from those two states combined. | |
| New Mexico is proportional. | |
| The latest poll had Trump up by two points over Cruz, with Kasich trailing badly. | |
| New Jersey, Trump will take all 51. | |
| He writes, no one will care. | |
| So obviously it's written from the perspective, but he's giving a he's giving a path for Ted Cruz. | |
| And then the finale in California, 172. | |
| At that stage of the game, Trump will likely be at or just past 1050. | |
| Well, if you include the 50 in Pennsylvania, he's now over a thousand. | |
| It's a thousand and one to be exact. | |
| So I don't exactly agree with the analysis. | |
| So if you say that, then he would be at eleven hundred. | |
| All right, so then that would mean he'd have to win 127 of 172. | |
| Um, but that's that then there are other unbound delegates as well. | |
| So it's and on top of that, now you have everybody's gonna pull out all the stops in Indiana. | |
| You live in Indiana, you're gonna have a hell of a time watching a lot of campaign ads and hearing a lot of campaign ads. | |
| There is a pro-Ted Cruz super PAC that is committed 1.6 million dollars to the state. | |
| Now, Donald Trump, who has been very frugal in terms of spending money on ad campaigns, he is now committed almost a million dollars on TV and radio ads. | |
| And uh apparently Mike Pence is going to stay neutral in the contest in the race. | |
| That probably helps Trump and hurts Cruz because Cruz would desperately need and want Pence's endorsement. | |
| And if Trump has Knight's endorsement and Pence stays out of it, I'd say that's a net game for Trump. | |
| Because to counter the Bobby Knight endorsement, if it's possible, the only person that could come close is Mike Pence. | |
| Well, I've always liked, I've always liked Mike Pence. | |
| Good guy. | |
| Um, anyway, Paul Manafort has been telling Republican officials that Trump's in the midst of doubling their ground game there. | |
| I think this is the first Pennsylvania's probably the first sign that the Trump campaign has gotten serious about a ground game, as evidenced by them distributing voter guides so that when you went into the voting booth and the delegates, you actually knew who to vote for if you were a Trump supporter. | |
| We did it for all three of the campaigns. | |
| We did it for Trump Cruz and Kasich if you were in Pennsylvania. | |
| So there's going to be a sudden infusion of operatives and cash, and that's a sign that Indiana's position in the Republican primary fight right now is massive. | |
| So we'll have to see what happens there. | |
| Now, there's some other things going on in the news as well. | |
| Trump said that he's ready to hit the Hillary scandal encyclopedia. | |
| Well, I already have that information. | |
| Lena Dunham has said, I know a lovely place in Vancouver, and I can get work done from there. | |
| She's gonna, if Trump gets elected, she's leaving. | |
| Rosie O'Donnell says she's leaving. | |
| Let's see, Samuel L. Jackson says he's leaving. | |
| John Stewart says he's that he's leaving. | |
| Raven Simone is leaving, Miley Cyrus is leaving, Whoopi Goldberg is leaving, Al Sharpton is leaving, George Lopez is leaving, and this is what Trump had to say about Lena Dunham. | |
| You got that tape? | |
| No. | |
| Well, he said, well, now that I now I have to get elected to make sure Lena Dunham and Rosie O'Donnell go and flee to Canada. | |
| That's pretty funny. | |
| This happens every election year. | |
| Guess what? | |
| They never leave. | |
| I've even offered to charter airplanes with the one stipulation that if you people are gonna leave, you can never come back. | |
| Ever. | |
| Otherwise, you have to pay me five times what the cost of the plane was. | |
| I think that's a fair deal. | |
| I could raise that money in 20 seconds to get rid of these people. | |
| Who wants them? | |
| They're the most annoying people in the media, every one of them. | |
| Maybe I've not whoopy Goldberg. | |
| I like Whoopi Goldberg. | |
| No, Whoopi has been very nice to me over the years. | |
| I went on uh I went on the View, and Rosie was going ballistic. | |
| What are you playing here? | |
| So good night. | |
| I hate to go and this pretty side. | |
| All right, enough of that. | |
| Sound to me now that stupid song is gonna stick in my head all day. | |
| Why did you do that? | |
| You really had to do that to me. | |
| I can't watch those movies that have those songs that the next five days, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. | |
| This drives me nuts. | |
| Oh, shut up. | |
| Let's stop. | |
| I'm not the singer here for crying out loud. | |
| Um, all right, so that's pretty much the state of affairs. | |
| I've got a lot of other news here. | |
| Uh, we've got a lot of news on the Hillary side, Democratic side. | |
| She is a weak candidate. | |
| You know, you know the one question that I keep getting asked now more than oh, are we gonna win? | |
| Are we gonna win? | |
| Are we gonna win? | |
| I could make the case for any of the 17 candidates Republicans that were running. | |
| I could. | |
| But Hillary still starts out with 47% of the vote. | |
| And I have an announcement to make. | |
| A major announcement. | |
| Hillary Clinton has decided on her vice presidential nominee. | |
| Hillary has picked Donald Trump. | |
| Now it's important to note Hillary had a very careful vetting process that went into this. | |
| She wanted someone who shared her vision of the federal government. | |
| You know, Donald Trump did recently a town hall, he was asked, name the top functions of the federal government. | |
| He said security, and then he said health care, education, and housing. | |
| Funny thing is, if you asked Hillary, she'd say the same thing. | |
| If you asked Bernie, Bernie'd be like, wow, that's aggressive. | |
| You don't only want socialized medicine, you also want to put the federal government in charge of all education, education, common core. | |
| According to Donald, that's the core responsibility of the federal government and housing. | |
| How many people are ready for the federal government taking over the housing market? | |
| And you know, Donald and Hillary, they are flipped sides of the same coin. | |
| Hillary Clinton has made millions of dollars selling power and influence in Washington. | |
| And Donald Trump has made billions of dollars buying politicians like Hillary Clinton. | |
| Well, I think they're hurting the party because again, they have no path, zero path to victory, and we're gonna win on the first ballot. | |
| We don't look for the delegates on number two, three, four, five ballot. | |
| And here's what I say. | |
| Let's assume it did go beyond the first ballot. | |
| And let's assume your Ryan's who's a very good man, head of RNC, Ryan Sprebus. | |
| And let's say, oh well, Trump was uh twelve short or fifteen delegates short or twenty-five short, but five hundred more than Cruz and far more than that ahead of Kasich. | |
| So you go to a second ballot. | |
| Now Trump by that time will be five million votes because of California and the size of California, and I think Indiana and other places. | |
| Trump by that time will be five million votes ahead of Chris. | |
| Will be much more than five million votes ahead of Casey. | |
| How do you pick a man on the second or third or fourth ballot who has millions of votes? | |
| Five, six million votes less than Trump, and I'm the one that brought all these people into the party. | |
| That's why the Republican Party is up almost 70% from four years ago. | |
| And you know what's gonna happen? | |
| Those people at a minimum, they're gonna be very upset, very angry, but at a minimum, they're just not gonna vote. | |
| They're not gonna vote. | |
| So how do you do this? | |
| All right, that was Ted Cruz and Donald Trump from yesterday. | |
| We've got so much going on today. | |
| Carly Fiorina announced as Ted Cruz's running mate. | |
| That's one story, the five state sweep by Donald Trump yesterday in Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, uh, Connecticut, and Rhode Island. | |
| And joining us now are two people now well known to the program. | |
| We have D.C. McAllister, senior contributor to the Federalist, a Cruise supporter, Michael Cohn is the executive vice president and special counsel to Donald Trump, and uh welcome both of you to the uh program and uh DC, I'll start with you first the Fiorina announcement. | |
| I am not surprised. | |
| I mean, he's going into California. | |
| Cruz needs that energy and that support, and uh he's hoping that he'll have that with her. | |
| I think there's a risk in picking someone who's already run for president because the people uh rejected her, d she just didn't catch fire with them, so that's always a risk when you do that. | |
| But um it makes sense. | |
| She's a woman, he needs a woman on his ticket, and going into California, like I said, this would be a wise move on that front. | |
| What do you think, Michael Comb? | |
| First of all, I find it to hold the press conference the day after a historic loss and then to choose a VP when he has absolutely no path to victory is obnoxious to uh the way I see it. | |
| Why is it obnoxious? | |
| Why would that be amount to hiring an executive, but you close the company the day before. | |
| The guy's mathematically out of the race. | |
| What he should do, what the announcement should have been, is that he's getting out of the race and that they're all going to coalesce behind Donald Trump, unite the party, and move forward to defeating Hillary Clinton for the presidency. | |
| What about the idea that after last night, D.C., it and I actually would argue it was after New York, uh, knowing how the distribution of delegates are, but it was mathematically slightly possible, but now it's mathematically impossible for Senator Cruz to get to 1237. | |
| Um he called John Kasich a spoiler when when Kasich stayed in, when he was mathematically incapable of getting to 1237. | |
| What is your reaction to that? | |
| Well, the fact is, and we've talked about this before, that Donald Trump needs 1237 to actually win it. | |
| And it's interesting, Donald Trump he m he made the um analogy last night in his speech uh to a boxer, and he said that last night was a knockdown and that he's actually won. | |
| But uh but I really would like to go with that analogy because I think it's a good one. | |
| There hasn't been a knockdown. | |
| They're still fighting. | |
| I mean, you can in Donald Trump has gotten a lot of points there at the latter rounds, but Ted Cruz is still fighting because he could actually knock him out at the end, and that's what he's wanting to do. | |
| You may think that's obnoxious, he may not like the process, but that's actually a possibility. | |
| And the reason why Ted Cruz is staying in is because he does believe that his message and his plan for America is better than Dom Donald Trump. | |
| So he's fighting for that. | |
| But he's the only one that believes that. | |
| You know, sometimes you have to look in the mirror. | |
| You know what? | |
| Maybe maybe this just isn't my time. | |
| Maybe this is Donald Trump's time. | |
| Maybe despite the fact that, you know, um he claims to be an outsider, but he's an insider. | |
| Maybe he didn't impress the other, you know, members in the Senate with his, you know, um rendition of green eggs and ham. | |
| Who knows? | |
| It's Donald Trump's time. | |
| And I just want to go back to one thing you brought up before, Sean, about you know, the um choosing of Carly Fiorina. | |
| What an absolutely poor choice by Cruz to pick Carly Fiorina as his VP. | |
| And this is not an indictment against Miss Fiorina, because she clearly has a spectacular past. | |
| Why do you think you say that though? | |
| Why do you say that? | |
| Because I actually what he should have done, right? | |
| Being down more than four hundred delegate votes, the better choice would have been somebody like Marco Rubio who has more votes than the guy that he just colluded with and delegate votes in that way. | |
| Maybe he's not mathematically out. | |
| You know, I actually had the same thought myself. | |
| No, no, not uh Sean, you do not have to be a good thing. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| Stop my shit. | |
| I don't actually No, you just shut up. | |
| You're being obnoxious. | |
| I actually did have the same thought for the very same reason this morning, and it does raise a question. | |
| You know, was Marco Rubio approached by Senator Cruz? | |
| And if that if that happened, I would like to know what the back story is. | |
| It's kind of the type of story that you'll read in Bob Woodward's next book a year into uh the next presidency. | |
| Um but uh D.C. McAllister, I think that Michael makes a point about the delegates. | |
| I mean, Marco Rubio, who's been out what, five or six weeks now, still has uh more delegates than John Kasich. | |
| I don't know if there's been any broom closet meetings with Marco Rubio. | |
| I don't really want to picture those two in a broom closet together, but um I don't think Marco Rubio, I get the feeling that he's not really keen on the idea of being a VP with uh with Ted Cruz, uh but as far as the delegate council. | |
| I mean that would be advantageous, but we don't know what he's doing. | |
| So you think he'd ever consider being a VP for Trump? | |
| I doubt it. | |
| I mean, I I almost think he's he's re resetting for another time in the future, but uh I don't know that for a fact. | |
| That's just the sense that I get from him. | |
| But as far as Carly Fiorina, I mean, like I said, I I critical on one level, but I think that it's an excellent move. | |
| You come back again, she's a fighter, he's a fighter, and they're fighting, and back to that boxing analogy. | |
| It is not over. | |
| There has not been a knockdown. | |
| And so they're fighting to win. | |
| And it makes sense that after you've had a big loss, you come back to the next round and you keep fighting, and he's gonna go presidential, he's going to move forward and look forward, just like Donald Trump did today. | |
| He came out I mean, how appropriate is that to come out and have like a press conference as if you're the president, let me talk about foreign policy. | |
| And by the way, he really needs to work on his teleprompter performance um uh i i he just needs to do that. | |
| So but that was something he didn't think. | |
| Now why would you say such a thing? | |
| Actually, I've gotten phone calls of rave reviews of Mr. Trump's um speech today on foreign policy. | |
| And while we listened to Ted Cruz with his wonderful humor just prior, you know, to us being on, you know, on air. | |
| Um and by the way, you know, it's it he talk about a guy that doesn't sound presidential. | |
| There's nothing presidential about Ted Cruz. | |
| He c for some reason he just can't get through his head, and yet he's such an intelligent guy, Harvard Law. | |
| He can't understand. | |
| Maybe he wants to be the president of the United States of America, but nobody else wants him. | |
| Well, yeah, people have to do him. | |
| He was sitting there jumping up and down, screaming, Hey, I won Wisconsin, look at me, I'm great. | |
| I beat Donald Trump. | |
| Um yeah, that was Wisconsin. | |
| And now six states later, but this isn't just a victory. | |
| This was a tri I mean he just they this he destroyed it, Donald Trump. | |
| He took he took every state, but by humongous margins. | |
| I'd like to talk about why that's not only not only did he take it by huge margins, there were three people in the race. | |
| Yes, and when let's talk about why that happened. | |
| Okay, let's talk about it. | |
| Yeah, I I think you know, I don't think this is a ringing endorsement necessarily of of Donald Trump. | |
| And let me explain what I mean by that. | |
| It's not a ringing endorsement. | |
| Let me explain what I mean by that. | |
| Yes, he got the numbers. | |
| But why? | |
| What was the driving motivational force? | |
| And they don't want to be able to do that. | |
| No, I don't think it's about I don't think it's against Ted Cruz. | |
| I think it's it's built on fear and also a strong sense of fairness. | |
| I mean, and the American people, I think, um Sean, and you may understand what I'm talking about. | |
| This is I think that people love fairness and justice almost more than they do liberty. | |
| And when you talk about conservatism, you're talking about liberty. | |
| And what I'm seeing in this election, what I saw happened in Pennsylvania is people saying, I'm more concerned about fairness than I am about my own liberty. | |
| Oh, well, hang on. | |
| Let me let me ask you, hang on. | |
| Michael, hang on a second. | |
| I want to f I want to dig into this. | |
| Are you saying that I I I don't see that the this is contrary. | |
| I mean, you really have here. | |
| Americans are making choices. | |
| And it almost sounds like you're saying they're making a choice, an ill-informed choice, or an it uh sort of insulting the the voters by saying that. | |
| What do you mean by that? | |
| I don't mean to insult them at all. | |
| Um I think that the anger, and I think all three of us can agree that there's anger at Washington, anger at the establishment that has been Driving this election. | |
| That has not gone away. | |
| And what we've seen, what we saw in Pennsylvania especially, was fuel thrown on that fire. | |
| And what was the fuel? | |
| It was weeks of saying the system is rigged. | |
| People are lying, you're being cheated. | |
| Ted Cruz is cheating you. | |
| The process is bad. | |
| You're being screwed. | |
| That's what we've been hearing over and over again. | |
| Well, the American people don't like to be screwed. | |
| They don't like unfairness. | |
| They don't like to be cheated out of things. | |
| And so they came out and jours. | |
| When you have conservatives overwhelmingly picking Donald Trump, evangelicals overwhelmingly picking Donald Trump when they don't like him. | |
| And when you ask those same people whose values align more with yours, and overwhelmingly they say Ted Cruz, why are they choosing someone who does not align with their own values? | |
| The only answer is they're angry, they're afraid, and they feel like they're being cheated, and they're going to use whatever bludgeon they can use to bring about the fairness that they think that they're getting. | |
| And my problem with that is that in this election with that primary, that's a lie. | |
| There is no unfairness in the process. | |
| There is no one stealing the election. | |
| And that's what my concern is. | |
| That messaging is what won in Pennsylvania. | |
| That's messaging, not Donald Trump. | |
| Donald Trump's message that's not really in alignment with truth. | |
| I think that's a stretch, though. | |
| I really do. | |
| I mean, you know, you're talking about five critical states here. | |
| And and while certainly there's been a lot of discussion and talk about delegates, et cetera, and the system. | |
| Um I I I I don't think you can look at the margins of any candidate, either either Cruz winning in Wisconsin or the five state win or New York for Trump and say that, well, th this caused that or that caused that. | |
| I I think it's complex. | |
| I'll agree with you on that. | |
| I don't really think listen, to be perfectly blunt, I don't even think people are paying attention to that a whole lot. | |
| I do. | |
| And I also think they're afraid of of a conflict at the convention. | |
| I think that's the other driving force here. | |
| I think they just want to over. | |
| I think that's another thing. | |
| And that's interesting, because even a state like Wisconsin that Senator Cruz won, sixty percent of voters there, the person said the person with the most votes, the most delegates, and the most states won should get the nomination. | |
| I mean, that's what they said. | |
| I mean, that backs up my theory about the fairness. | |
| I mean, I think that they think that the system is rigged, they believe that messaging, and they thought they see technology. | |
| Well, but I mean, look at the numbers. | |
| Right now you have Donald Trump over ten million votes. | |
| You have Ted Cruz just under seven million, you have twenty-seven states for Trump. | |
| You have eleven if we're talking states and territories, Trump twenty-seven, uh, Senator Cruz, uh uh an awesome showing at eleven, and by any you know, seventeen people are in this race. | |
| You have uh Marco Rubio in third with three and John Kasich with one. | |
| I mean, yeah, and I understand when we've talked about it. | |
| It's been it's really been a two-person race this whole time. | |
| Well, and and it's gonna continue it's gonna continue down to the convention. | |
| And and what I'm my point is is that it's not unfair though. | |
| This is part of the case. | |
| Let me ask the final question, which I always ask. | |
| Um and you know what, I actually think that you and Michael have become friendly over this time for some reason in a strange way, uh, even though you battle a lot. | |
| But uh my biggest concern is at the end of this process, there's so much anger and antipathy among supporters on both sides. | |
| I worry that that the split, the schism will continue through the general election, and if it does, Hillary's gonna win. | |
| I'm very concerned, which is why I don't like the rhetoric that comes from the Trump campaign. | |
| And I don't like you know, and or or the the the um never Trump movement, and by the way, I've never been part of the never Trump movement. | |
| I've been critical of that from the beginning. | |
| I'm for the for America movement and for con constitutional control. | |
| I'm the never Hillary movement. | |
| Oh, I also hate never with that too, but I'm very much for America and what's best, and we can disagree about which candidate is isn't it? | |
| Hey, Sean, do you mind if I jump in here? | |
| Yeah, real quick. | |
| You have a 10 seconds. | |
| I I really appreciate it because the two of you had a wonderful. | |
| She makes a comment which is absolutely inaccurate. | |
| Let me tell you what the Trump administration would focus on. | |
| On defending America, American interest, not nation building. | |
| All right, Mr. Trump wants stability, not chaos. | |
| Unfortunately. | |
| What he is is he is not part of the establishment. | |
| They are absolutely terrified that he is gonna come in. | |
| The American people are making the decision, not the delegates, not Ted Cruz's. | |
| All right, I got you. | |
| I gotta cut you off, Michael, not because I don't want to appreciate that. | |
| Thanks for letting me listen to the we stop whining. | |
| That's not because I don't love you. | |
| I mean I love both of you guys. | |
| Thank you. | |
| By the way, I have someone in the office here that would like to say hello to you real quick. | |
| All right, who is it? | |
| I'll be Manzo from Manzoed with Children. | |
| He's sitting and listening to this. | |
| Well, you tell them I said hello, okay? | |
| I sure will. | |
| All right, thank you, Michael. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| DC, thank you. | |
| Our friends are beginning to think they can't depend on us. | |
| We've had a president who dislikes our friends And bows to our enemies, something that we've never seen before in the history of our country. | |
| He negotiated disastrous deal with Iran. | |
| And then we watched them ignore its terms even before the ink was dry. | |
| Iran cannot be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. | |
| Cannot be allowed. | |
| Remember that cannot be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. | |
| All right, that was from Trump's foreign policy speech that he gave earlier today. | |
| Uh very inclusive, very comprehensive on too many levels, and I can even analyze today with all that's going on. | |
| But he he vows to change the trajectory of American foreign policy. | |
| Number one, that America's interest will always be first under every circumstances, that we will not allow ourselves to get into alliances with people that are not truly our friends, and that he believes that he can have outreach to both Russia, China, other countries, and if they don't reciprocate, then relations will will go south and we'll just accept that that's their position. | |
| Anyway, it was very comprehensive. | |
| That went on today. | |
| Our other top story, uh, last night's election results, five states, a sweep for Trump, four out of five for Hillary, and the announcement earlier in the last hour that Carly Fiorina is announced as the vice presidential candidate for Senator Ted Cruz. | |
| All right, let's get to our busy phones here. | |
| Sherry is in Youngstown, Ohio. | |
| Sherry's upset about something. | |
| What can we do to make you feel better, Sherry? | |
| Hey, Sean. | |
| Um, I'm feeling defeated today. | |
| I am feeling like um Trump is going to be the nominee. | |
| I don't know that anyone can win. | |
| I want a winner. | |
| I want to defeat Hillary. | |
| I feel like 38% of some people that showed up to vote this round chose him. | |
| I feel that 65% of us are fighting everything we do to get somebody who can win. | |
| I I agree with DC. | |
| Yesterday was all about fear. | |
| Be afraid, be afraid, be afraid, be afraid. | |
| You're getting ripped off. | |
| That's what people, that's what incites people. | |
| Well, I can I can I can give you actually more I can give you better numbers than that to maybe help either reinforce or maybe slightly contradict it. | |
| Sixty percent of voters yesterday feel betrayed by Washington Republicans. | |
| Thirty-nine percent uh care the most about of any issue, economy and jobs. | |
| That reinforces the numbers I give out every day about 95 million Americans out of the labor force, fifty million in poverty, forty-six million on food stamps, and then of course our record dead under Obama. | |
| Fifty-seven percent of voters yesterday. | |
| Can I can I just finish? | |
| 57% are very worried about the economy. | |
| 83% believe it's time for an outsider. | |
| 71% believes the country needs dramatic change. | |
| Now, that's what voters said. | |
| I'm only telling you what they say was on their minds yesterday. | |
| All right, so let me let me ask you a question. | |
| Can he win? | |
| Can he win without the African American vote? | |
| Uh I think any of the 17 candidates going back to the very beginning are capable of winning. | |
| But with that said, you've also heard me offered this admonition often and frequently. | |
| Hillary Clinton. | |
| You have to look objectively at how the country is aligning politically right now. | |
| You know, look at the votes for Bernie Sanders. | |
| He's a there's a communist for crying out loud. | |
| He's a socialist. | |
| And look at the number of voters and Americans, your fellow Americans voting for him. | |
| Look at the people, the numbers voting for Hillary. | |
| I know it's down from 08 and 2012, and we've gone over that, and Republican enthusiasm is real way up. | |
| But um, I've got to tell you something. | |
| You know, uh she starts with 47% of the vote. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Exactly. | |
| But that's my point. | |
| Republican enthusiasm is up. | |
| Where were they when I we were desperate in twelve? | |
| Obama ruined this country, desperate in twelve and they wouldn't come out. | |
| They wouldn't come out. | |
| Where do you see? | |
| And who do you think that is? | |
| I know I uh you you keep saying about the white knight. | |
| If there's a white knight that can pull together, I'll take it. | |
| I'm desperate for anybody. | |
| It's not gonna happen. | |
| I outlined earlier there's still a path for a contested convention. | |
| It's a very narrow path, but there's still a path for that. | |
| And you know, voters in Indiana, they vote a week from yesterday. | |
| We'll know by this time next week whether or not, you know, what Ted Cruz was able to pull off a big win in Indiana, which he would need to get to the contested convention. | |
| And to be perfectly honest, I I don't I don't have a crystal ball. | |
| I don't know how deep this anger runs. | |
| All the empirical evidence, the data that I read shows that Americans now have recognized the failure of Obama and and Clinton's strategies and policies. | |
| But you know, it's kind of hard when, you know, for any Republican, if you have to win North Carolina, which has become increasingly difficult, Virginia, where now Terry McCaulliff is allowing two hundred thousand felons to write, uh to vote, and including violent felons. | |
| You gotta win Florida, you gotta win Ohio. | |
| You gotta also pick up New Hampshire, Iowa, New Mexico, Nevada, um, and a bunch of other states, and then hopefully put states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin into play. | |
| It is a very narrow path for Republicans historically. | |
| I cannot promise you a victory with any of these candidates. | |
| The only thing that I can tell you is that if Republicans continue this circular firing squad and they keep shooting at each other and they don't unite, all that's gonna do is help Hillary. | |
| Now, sh there's other factors that come into play. | |
| She's a weak candidate. | |
| She's a h she doesn't have the communication skills of Barack Obama, his ability to inspire a crowd and read a teleprompter, even though it's all phony. | |
| Uh she doesn't have the political skills of her own husband who looks somebody and I I want to say you're you're the most special person in the entire world for me, and I she doesn't have that skill. | |
| You know I I when I hear her speak, I've got to turn it off. | |
| I can't listen to it. | |
| Um she's shown enormous weakness even in this primary against the seventy-four-year-old curmudgeon. | |
| Yeah, I you know, every day I talk Sherry on this program about what matters to me. | |
| And what matters to me is stop robbing our kids, balancing our budget, living within our means. | |
| What matters to me is securing our borders. | |
| What matters to me is not allowing potential people terrorists into the country because we can't vet them and listening to the admonitions of our national security team. | |
| It matters to me that we spend more money on education than any other country on earth and have the worst results per capita per dollar. | |
| It matters to me that we're not energy independent. | |
| We have all the resources to be energy independent. | |
| It matters to me that we've never repealed and replaced health care. | |
| Now we gotta go through that whole transformation mess again if we elect a conservative. | |
| So there's this a multitude of problems in play here. | |
| I can do my right thing and go with Trump, right? | |
| That's what I'm gonna do. | |
| I'm gonna put do anything I can do to stop Hillary. | |
| So am I? | |
| I agree with that. | |
| But we gotta get what are we gonna do? | |
| We can unite nobody. | |
| Well, I uh look, I can only do what I can do. | |
| And I I promise you I have already started a process of making phone calls and trying to get people to unite. | |
| And you know what? | |
| To be perfectly blunt with you, I've not had a whole lot of success. | |
| I can believe it. | |
| I am desperate. | |
| I am very compassionate about this. | |
| There's a million people in the case. | |
| But Sherry, you know why you care about because you love your country and you hate to see it in decline. | |
| But nobody I don't know. | |
| They have to get on board. | |
| What I mean, I sorry I'm sorry you sound so passionate. | |
| No, you shouldn't you shouldn't apologize for loving your country as much as you do. | |
| You uh need these people to vote, nobody cares if it doesn't pertain to them, everybody's so self-absorbed. | |
| I mean, I we gotta unite this. | |
| I will vote for Trump if he's the guy. | |
| I wanna win. | |
| I want to win too. | |
| And what that's gonna take is look, think about it this way. | |
| If you were a Bobby Gindle supporter, if you were a Rick Perry supporter, if you were a Scott Walker supporter, if you were a Jeb Bush supporter, if you're a Marco Rubio supporter, you know, I can't even name the 17 people, Carly Fiorina, Ben Carson. | |
| If you were any if you Chris Christie, I don't care who it is, whoever you were supporting, you know, at some point in this process, those supporters were disappointed. | |
| I understand that. | |
| People have got invested a lot in in learning about the candidates and issues in the hopes that America will make a dramatic change in the hopes that we can get the country back on course. | |
| It is not it's gotta be a collaborative effort. | |
| It's got to be. | |
| You you cannot you know the the f most frustrating thing, I mean, I've been off Twitter now, except just shooting out pictures of Marley and du and and my dog uh Gracie, because it's just I I mean, it's so it's almost verbal violence that's going on there because cruise people, they hate Trump people, Trump people, they hate Cruise people, Trump and Cruz people, they hate Kasich people, and we've almost lost perspective of what this race has got to ultimately be about. | |
| Now, there's no such thing as a perfect candidate. | |
| I have I've interviewed all seventeen of them, and I could make the case going back to day one that all of them will be a better president than either Obama or Hillary. | |
| And I'm just gonna try and make the case. | |
| Look, I've accumulated a thousand pages of hop research on everything that you probably have forgotten about Hillary Clinton. | |
| And when the time is right, I will every single day be laying out the case why she's wrong for America. | |
| Just like I did in two thousand and eight against Obama and twenty twelve against Obama. | |
| I'm gonna try it again this year, and if it doesn't work, I'll try it again in twenty twenty. | |
| But by that time it may be too late. | |
| I feel you, and I gotta say, Trump's biggest decision or biggest thing he can do right now. | |
| He has got to pick the right vice president. | |
| You don't throw a woman in there because it's a woman. | |
| You don't throw an African American in there because it's a woman. | |
| Who would you advise him to pick? | |
| Give him some advice. | |
| Who do you like? | |
| I I would take Walker. | |
| Not a bad choice at all. | |
| I would take Walker. | |
| I'd take Rubio. | |
| Not a bad choice at all. | |
| You've got to have some diversity. | |
| But if it they're against the establishment. | |
| Could you imagine? | |
| I said this before. | |
| I want to you're you're you are making such poignant, strong emotional points that are really tapping into something that I think a lot of us are feeling. | |
| I have said, Sherry, as rationally as I possibly can. | |
| I have been accused of supporting all of the 17 candidates. | |
| You know, the truth is I have given as much time as appropriate to every candidate. | |
| But I don't get credit for that. | |
| And I'm not expecting it. | |
| I don't care because I know I've done the right thing. | |
| But imagine I don't let's say let's let's take can let's take names and personalities out of this equation. | |
| Candidate A beats candidate B for the nomination. | |
| And let's say that candidate A reaches out to candidate B, and the other 16 can and the other 15 candidates. | |
| And Scott Walker can become a part of a coalition. | |
| And John Casey can become a part of the coalition. | |
| And Bobby Gendal and Rick Perry and Rudy Giuliani, who wasn't even one of the the 17, or Newt Gingrich, or some of you know, we've got a deep, deep intellectual bench that could be tapped into that could solve the problems and and force solutions onto the American public in a way that could be transformative. | |
| It could be like the Phoenix rising from the ashes, and America, just like in the Carter years when everybody thought it was done and finished and over, can come back to life and be the America that we inherited. | |
| You know, there is an answer here. | |
| And the reason that I keep pushing unity is for that reason. | |
| You know, this is a little myth about the presidency. | |
| Yeah, of course, a president's the most powerful job in the world, but you can never ever be a successful president unless you have great people around you. | |
| I could tell you right now, I am ten to twenty to a hundred times better of a talk show host because I surround myself with good people. | |
| I don't tell anybody on either my radio or TV staff what to do every day. | |
| I'm not barking orders. | |
| I send notes, I want to do this, I want to do that, I like this. | |
| Please get this. | |
| I heard that, get this. | |
| But short of that, I know they do their jobs. | |
| And you know what? | |
| It's a collaborative effort. | |
| The same with the president. | |
| No one president can manage this country alone. | |
| He needs people on the defense side, he needs people to deal with the economy, he needs people that understand energy, he needs people that understand education, health, human services, immigration, all of the above. | |
| And so, you know, I understand we get caught up in personalities. | |
| I understand people are emotionally involved in the person that they chose. | |
| One of the best things I've done in this election cycle for my own sanity is I made a decision that you'll decide. | |
| You know what? | |
| And I'm only emotionally uh attached to to making America the country it can be again. | |
| And oh no, I'm not stealing Trump's line. | |
| I'm saying America's in decline. | |
| I want to reverse that decline. | |
| And I think collaboratively, we have the intellectual firepower within the Republican Party to do so. | |
| But do we have the will, the courage, the political courage, the backbone in the spine to do the things necessary to write this ship. | |
| You get the last 15 seconds. | |
| Go. | |
| I'm going to say what they have to do, and my clarity came today when I accepted Trump today or whatever, is that it's not one man does not run this country. | |
| And I have to trust that there is enough people around him to guide him. | |
| If the Republican establishment hates him, help him. | |
| Guide him. | |
| You still have a say. | |
| Listen, if if I if it is Donald Trump, and it appears more likely that it will be him. | |
| If it is, I would hope that he would listen to what I just said and create a coalition of the best, the smartest, the brightest. | |
| I've got to imagine in business, in my business, I surround myself with the best people. | |
| I would imagine his years in business, considering his successful, he's done the same thing. | |
| If he does that as president, the odds dramatically increase that he could have a successful presidency. | |
| And that's good for the American people. | |
| This to me is about people suffering needlessly because of government. | |
| Anyway, Sherry, you get the you know what? | |
| Stay on the line. | |
| We're gonna give Sherry Sherry's berries for Valentine's Day. | |
| All right, Sherry, we're gonna we're gonna For Mother's Day you mean. | |
| For mothers, what did I say? | |
| Valentine's Day? | |
| Sorry, Mother's Day. | |
| Hey, I want to thank you, Sean, for talking to me because I want people to do the right thing. | |
| There is no other option. | |
| Sherry, I'm just gonna say this. | |
| You are what makes this country great. | |
| You are it. | |
| You are a the quintessential example of what makes America the great country. | |
| It is your heart and soul. | |
| It comes, it it just shines through the radio airways. |