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We've got, let's see, we've got uh Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, we have Rhode Island and Connecticut.
Those are the big five states.
Now, because things are so screwy in Pennsylvania, gotta give a lot of credit to Linda and our good friend Rose Tennant in Pittsburgh.
I'm not giving Ethan any credit.
He hasn't even been on the show a year.
He gets zero credit until I I I see that this is not a short-term work ethic.
He's got to build up my trust, and Ethan has not even gotten close, so I don't even know who Nick is, whoever Nick is for crying out loud.
Jeez.
There are people that work for me.
I don't even know who they are.
If I don't see you, I don't know you work for me.
So that's just the way it works.
You're talking about Blair, right?
That guy?
The other guy?
Okay.
Did you say that on the air or in my ear?
His name is Nick.
He works on our web team.
He's great.
Yeah, by the way, and our web has never been better.
We're really excited about it.
Hannity.com.
All right, let me give you where we are today.
So you got those five states.
Um look, I'm gonna give you the analysis.
There's no big real surprises here.
It's by every objective polling measure out there.
Of course, polls can be wrong, but I tend to think these are probably accurate.
I think we've had a very good track record of giving you an indication on election day where things are going.
I can't think of one instance where we got it wrong this year, have we?
I think Jimmy, Jamie DuPree and I, we've been pretty much on target.
By the way, Jamie's been out the last uh couple of weeks.
He's not feeling well.
We uh we wish him a speedy recovery and and relax, Jamie.
Take your time, get better, and come back when you feel better.
It's nothing serious.
It's just uh he's been out for a while.
So anyways, just what we need, something to stir things up just a little more because well, I guess we don't have enough controversy and as far as this campaign is concerned.
But the reality is, you know what, at the end of the day, I'm somewhat confident, hopeful that things are gonna work out better than maybe what a lot of people think.
And if they don't work out that way, then you know what?
We're all gonna pay a price.
And that price is gonna be Hillary Clinton as your next president.
So you have to just consider that as you contemplate.
Never cruise, never Trump, never Trump, never cruise, never Kasich.
How about we all just keep in mind the bigger prize, which is never Hillary?
Anyway, so it's sort of like another Super Tuesday today, maybe Super Tuesday three, four, five.
I can't keep track anymore.
These days are just flying by.
You know, we first started this uh this coverage back in March of 2015.
Remember, I was at CPAC, and I interviewed Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio and Senator Ted Cruz and Donald Trump.
That was all back then.
I mean, it's gone that it's been going on that long.
And it feels longer now that everyone's trying to kill each other, which I'm gonna get back into later in the program today.
So that's for the Republican side.
On the Democratic side, looks like Hillary, she will be the Democratic nominee, absent an act of God or an act of James Comey, and her wearing an orange jumpsuit and shoes without laces, which is a possibility, or a jumpsuit that's black and white, striped.
Never know, that's a possibility.
But I want to focus mostly on the Republican side today and uh and give you what the context is.
So you've got Donald Trump going into tonight, depending on which news outlet you listen to, has around eight hundred and forty-five delegates.
And you have Ted Cruz at 559 delegates, and you have John Kasich at 148 delegates, and as anyone who listens to the show by now knows the magic number is 1,237.
By the way, you can't leave until I talk to you.
Or else you're in trouble.
No, I'm only kidding.
I didn't mean that.
All right, so that's what those are what the numbers are.
As for this version of Super Tuesday, there are 172 Republican delegates at stake in these mid-Atlantic and Eastern seaboard states.
And anyway, it's vote what's called the Acela Primary.
If you're not on the East Coast and you haven't taken the Acela, it's a high-speed train that shuttles commuters up and down the East Coast.
It's actually a really efficient way to travel.
I've been on it many, many times.
I actually enjoy it.
You actually get to work on your computer.
They have a a place where you can get a beer and a a cr a lousy piece of pizza and something else, chips, whatever else you want to eat, and it goes by fast if you're with some friends.
It just does.
So Trump tonight is poised to sweep all five states.
I'd be shocked if he didn't.
The number of delegates broken down statewide.
You have 28 in Connecticut.
Rhode Island, small state with 19, Delaware, 16, Pennsylvania 17 bound, 54 unbound delegates.
I'll get back to that in a second.
Four of the states, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Connecticut, Maryland, are closed primary states.
Rhode Island is a modified party primary, meaning major party voters have to stick to their party.
But if you're an independent in Rhode Island, you can vote in whichever primary party primary you want.
And some of the states are winner take all, some are winner take most, and still others are proportional distribution of the delegates.
But the one constant is the numbers on these five states.
Now, let's look at the latest numbers.
Polls now have in Pennsylvania Trump up by 20 or more points.
He's ahead in Connecticut by 30 or more points.
He's ahead in Rhode Island by nearly 40 points, and ahead in Maryland by 30 points.
So which state didn't I mention here?
Oh, Delaware.
He's doing like he's up by 34 in Delaware or 37 points in Delaware.
So, you know, fairly significant lead.
Now, some of these state polls are more unreliable than others.
None has a margin of error of 30 points.
So you got to stipulate.
Trump is probably going to win all five states tonight.
He's probably going to win big.
He's going to win most to nearly all of the delegates.
I know the Cruz campaign has been working hard to pick up a few delegates in Maryland.
Kasich has been trying to get a couple in Rhode Island, but the other campaigns and candidates are essentially conceding these five states to Trump.
And Cruz was out campaigning yesterday in Indiana, which means that the map is shrinking if you're a Republican presidential candidate, not name Trump.
I mean, now it's now it becomes very, very tight.
And I'll get back to this alliance, which seems to have hit a little bit of a hitch between Cruz and Kasich.
But anyway, so the hope for non Trump candidates, Cruz and Kasich supporters, and the stop Trump movement is probably threefold.
That things will improve after today, since Trump was expected to do well in New York and the Acela corridor states.
Now, they will be over tomorrow, and as April gives way to May, and the map gets better for Cruz and Kasich.
Now, Indiana is a week from today.
And in that state, based on the Cruz Kasich Alliance, Cruz thinks it is sort of aligned it that it's a one-on-one contest with Donald Trump.
Now, the latest polls out of Indiana are prior to this agreement.
So how relevant they are, I don't know.
The Fox News poll Friday had Trump up eight in Indiana.
There was another poll on Friday that had Trump up by six in Indiana.
But in those polls, John Kasich had about 20 points.
So the question is how many Kasich supporters will be going to Cruz and how many Kasich supporters might be going to Trump.
If I had to guess, I would suggest that probably Cruz would get the larger number of Kasich supporters, if in fact they still go and vote.
So, all right, the second thing is, or the third thing, if there's a strong showing because Indiana's winner take all.
57 delegates.
So, really, it's a must-win state for Cruz.
And you've got to say this about Cruz.
Every time he's needed a must-win state.
I'll give two examples.
Iowa, Wisconsin, he's gotten them.
There's a pro-cruise super PAC that is committed to 1.6 million dollars in the state of Indiana.
If you live in Indiana, get ready, you're going to be bombarded with campaign ads.
And if you're in the TV and radio business, it or the or the print business, you're probably going to have a banner week.
So a strong showing by Cruz in Indiana, and then of course Kasich is he's the cruise people have agreed not to be in Oregon and New Mexico and a mediocre performance by Trump in California.
That is the hope of the non Trump the stop Trump movement, which explains the Cruz Kasich alliance I spoke about yesterday.
They decided to cede certain states to the other, because mathematically, neither Kasich or Cruz can get to twelve thirty seven.
So they just decided to cede states, consolidate and coordinate in a sense.
And there's nothing wrong with it, is perfectly legal.
And um in order to block Trump from getting the nomination, which would lead to an open convention, and that's the hope of both Kasich supporters, John Kasich, Cruz supporters, and Ted Cruz.
Now the alliance makes sense, but John Kasich has kind of hurt that alliance by somewhat erratic comments and actions over the last twenty-four hours.
I'm trying to follow this.
It's like follow the bouncing ball.
So I'm not exactly sure whether or not this alliance is holding up or not.
Because on Sunday night, late Sunday night, both Cruz and Kasich, their their campaigns, campaign managers, released a statement announcing their plan.
And on Monday in Indiana, Cruz trumpeted the big news that Kasich had pulled out of the state to give us a head to head with Donald Trump.
But on the same day, Kasich said that voters in Indiana, quote, ought to vote for me, which was directly contradicting the spirit and the purpose of this so called alliance.
By this morning, when pressed on the Today Show, Kasich was nearly incoherent.
And I talked to you a month ago after the Ohio win, after your Ohio win, I asked you if you would consider moving forward, coordinating with the Cruise campaign to stop Donald Trump from reaching twelve thirty seven delegates.
You said to me, I'm out there running to be president.
I'm not out to stop Donald Trump or anybody else.
Now we hear of this deal between your campaign and the Cruz campaign.
So did reality or the calendar simply catch up with you.
Well, first of all, we're not out to uh I'm not out to stop Donald Trump.
I'm out to stop Hillary Clinton.
We know this.
Donald Trump has zero chance of being able to beat Hillary Clinton.
He loses in every single poll.
I win in every single poll.
But there is a deal in place between your campaign and the cruise team.
It's a matter of resources.
Does that make sense to you?
That doesn't make sense to me.
So it went from an alliance and then he tells people, no, if you're in Indiana, vote for me, contradicting what I thought was the spirit and stated purpose of the alliance.
And this morning, it sounded I don't know where he stands on this whole thing.
I have no idea at this moment.
Kind of refusing to tell his voters to vote for him or or for Cruz and since insisting that he's not part of a stop Trump movement when he most certainly is part of it.
I mean, at least he was part of it.
At least maybe for twelve hours he was part of it.
I don't know.
Anyway, so Kasich's moving forward with his plan to meet with uh Indiana Governor Mike Pence.
Now why he would do that if he'd given up on the state.
That doesn't make sense either.
So the Cruz Kasich Alliance, I understand on paper, right?
That makes sense.
You want to stop Trump from getting to 1237.
But for it to work, you actually have to follow up on what it is both sides said they were gonna do.
And Cruz and Kasich need to be paddling in the same direction in the same canoe, and in this case, Crooms Cruz seems to be paddling forward and Kasich is like sideways.
It makes no sense.
Now Donald Trump, on the other hand, is going after both Cruz and Kasich, sounding like with some relish, mocking them both and saying their alliance is a sign of weakness.
Now, in a way, you've got to admit it's kind of right.
They don't have a path to twelve thirty-seven.
Their only path is to stop Trump from getting to twelve thirty-seven and hope and pray it gets to a second ballot or a third ballot and and have a contested convention.
That's where they are.
And it's perfectly defensible in terms of a tactical move by the two candidates or losing to a third candidate, but just because it's defensible doesn't mean it it's gonna work.
I've been reading a lot of social media on this.
I'm actually surprised at the n the level of backlash.
We actually used it as our question of the day last night on Hannity on TV.
I I've got to get the results from my producer.
But if it works, John Kasich, he's gonna have to get on script pretty fast.
Anyway.
So the task of of Cruz and Kasich looked hard enough this morning, and after the results from the five states tonight, it'll probably look even much harder, and all eyes will then turn to Indiana, which is a week from now.
All right, so we're gonna get to all this today.
And we've got Trump at fifty percent in a latest poll.
Trump saying that he's ready to hit the Hillary scandal encyclopedia.
You got on the Democratic side, Sanders is now floating Elizabeth Warren as a possible VP.
The White House, very serious about aggressively implementing their transgender agenda.
Team Hillary hits Bernie with a porn attack.
And we have some analysis that if you're a Republican this year, you should take heart in, and that is that so far Trump has won more than two million more votes than Romney did in twenty twelve and states voting so far.
That's a pretty big number.
So does that mean that there's far more enthusiasm on the Republican side?
Former Speaker of the House, New King Rich.
You know, when you're away, there's a void on the program because I have questions I want to ask you, and and uh frankly, it's just rude that you go away and and you you just don't you forget about all of us.
It's horrible.
Well, Sean, all all of our audience know I never forget about you.
You're unforgettable.
You're impossible to forget about.
I you know the funny thing is I'm sending you emails and you're on vacation, and I've got to believe at some point your wife says, tell him to shut up and leave you alone.
Well, she does she does she just said to a moment ago, she said it's kind of like having a younger brother call the Yeah, but I'm a generous younger brother, right?
I mean, I'm I try and look at a great younger brother.
I try and r I try and bribe you and bribe her if you do me special favors.
You know how many special favors I've asked over the years.
It's really it it I cannot pay it back.
I bet that's probably about accurate.
Anyway, how was your trip?
Where'd you go?
Oh, it's fabulous.
We we uh it was very unusual trip in that Callista plays in the uh Fairfax City band with uh she plays French horn with a number of people who were part of the Navy Supply Corps who are retired officers and in the Navy supply corps.
And their their group, which is a foundation, actually rented uh 95% of this uh river boat uh uh uh uh called Scenic, which is a terrific, I mean amazing boat.
I recommend Scenic to anybody.
Uh and uh we started in uh Amsterdam, Holland, worked our way up uh through Germany to stop in Strasbourg, France, and then ended up in in Bosel, Switzerland.
And I had always wanted to to do the Rhine.
My dad was stationed first in Orleans, France, and then in Stuttgart, Germany when I was a kid, and I'd always had this desire to go up the Rhine and see the castles, and I can just tell everybody who's listening, it is better than I would have guessed.
It is truly uh a remarkable experience.
And um the the castles, the villages, uh the towns, uh, to be honest, the apple strudel.
I mean, there's just a lot of different things going on.
The Apple Strudel.
The one thing that sticks out is the Apple Strudel.
You know it's funny.
Well, we're in Germany, you know.
So what can I tell you?
Uh actually it's on the You know, the funny thing is you've known me since my days.
The first time I interviewed you, I was on WVNN in Huntsville, Alabama.
I set up a remote broadcast to to broadcast an interview with you.
I think it was on a Saturday, and you were giving a speech.
It was in a holiday-in hotel room.
There is a picture somewhere of this.
I know, I think you have it, and I was making nineteen thousand dollars a year.
Now, at that point in my life I could have traveled.
Now, but I didn't have any money.
Now I have some money, but I have no time to travel, and I live vicariously through the adventures of you and Callista because you really enjoy traveling, and you always have great stories to tell when you come back, and I it makes me, you know, very envious and and jealous that you have all these great experiences.
Well, and you know, and sometimes you get a different perspective.
One of one of my, as you know, I do uh two free newsletters a week at Gingrich Productions.com and uh one of the ones I did last week was on the crises that are affecting Germany and all of Europe.
And sometimes when you get out of the country and you get a little distance, you see things differently uh the when you're you know, always have your nose uh right up against the window.
So you get a perspective, a chance to reflect on things and and a realization of just how big the problems are gonna be in Europe, which is uh very, very sobering, I think.
But on the other hand, I couldn't have picked a better time to come back because and I and obviously we're gonna be talking about this tonight on your show, uh, because we'll have the first results in from these five years.
You're gonna be our you're gonna be our first guest at ten o'clock tonight on Hannity, and we'll probably have some results by that.
Yeah, but I think it's gonna be very exciting.
Uh the newsletter we put out today outlined how to think about it.
Uh and uh I th I think uh unless something really uh unusual happens, uh Trump is gonna win all five.
And I think it's gonna be very hard after that uh to argue that he is not uh the nominee.
I mean, you know, technically he's still gonna finish wrapping up the delegates.
But but if he wins after the New York victory, which was so enormous, uh where where right now he is, I believe, at uh ninety to three with two undecided in delegates from New York, ninety to three.
Um I think uh if he gets a similar wave tonight, uh in uh in Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Rhode Island, uh, Delaware, and Maryland, uh it's gonna be very hard not to argue that he is uh clearly gonna be the nominee.
I actually thought the final count was ninety-two to three, but uh I maybe two of them are still outstanding.
I I I knew that uh that uh Ed Cox, the state chairman, had come out for Trump.
The other two were technically unbound.
I I just hadn't seen if they'd come out for him.
If they have, then it's ninety two to three.
And obviously if you're in a state where sixty-four percent uh voted for one candidate, probably if you have any sense of survival, uh you end up being for the candidate that got two thirds of the vote.
Now what do you say?
Look, my audience is very divided.
I don't think I've ever seen such division among conservatives than in this election.
Well, he's hated by both Trump and Cruz supporters in a lot of ways.
And it almost seems like it's a uh uh a bridge too far that I wonder and worry and I'm concerned that if ultimately one person is gonna win the nomination, we know that, whether or not the f this party is gonna unite and see the wisdom of defeating Hillary.
Well, I think first of all, it it's it's a real challenge because you have these enormous pressures.
I mean, one of the things I was struck by on our trip to Europe was the the new hardline anti-immigration party in Austria came in first in the presidential election this week.
Uh they got thirty-seven percent.
The hard left uh socialist pro immigration party came in second.
They got twenty percent.
The two traditional parties who have dominated Austrian politics since World War Two were were wiped out.
Neither one of them's even in the runoff.
Now that that's a level of tension, a level of anger, a level of desire for change that's very profound.
And that's what you're seeing here, I think.
You've got a very strong minority of the Democratic Party uh rallying around Bernie Sanders who just despise Hillary Clinton, think that she's a crook, uh, think that she represents everything wrong with with the Washington establishment.
Then you've got an absolute rebellion on the Republican side where probably two out of three Republican voters now automatically are against you if you represent the Washington establishment.
And they were split between Cruz and Trump, but with Trump gradually getting more and more dominance.
And uh when you have that scale of change, people you know, you're gonna have tension.
I mean, this is a very you know, either none of this stuff matters, in which case why be tense, or you know, these are really big decisions.
Uh I mean if if Donald Trump becomes president and he actually does start building the wall in January of next year, that's a really big change.
This is not a small thing.
And I'm I'm looking forward to a speech tomorrow at the National Press Club, uh, where he's gonna lay out his views on foreign policy and national security.
I'm told this is gonna be a really serious sophisticated he is.
Yeah, I mean that's the I hear this is gonna be a really serious, serious, you know, speech on on foreign policy.
This is not gonna be an ad lib rally that people used to see.
And I think that's important too, because it as he starts to move from the challenger to the nominee, he's gotta start moving towards being the potential president.
And pe one one of these people don't want any president is to be frightened by not knowing what they're doing and and and where they're going.
You know, th they don't want you to get wake up in the morning and go, oh, he did what?
They want a sense of certainty, a sense of thoughtfulness, uh, because they recognize that you are uh so important in your ability to uh you know, for example, you have nuclear weapons at your command.
You are the commander in chief of the most powerful military in history.
Uh you can make very big deals around the world.
So I do think there's a sense of people people have a standard.
Um I I'm not gonna suggest that Barack Obama's met that standard, but at the time, I think people had more optimism for him than they have today.
I don't think there's any doubt about that.
And I and frankly, I think people were blinded.
What do you think?
Um, and I think this is a really important question.
What do you think of this crazy idea?
I always throw crazy ideas at you, and sometimes you laugh them off, and other times you think that's maybe not so crazy.
If we had seventeen candidates that started this process of running for president, we're now down well, really down to two, but you might say three.
What do you think about building a coalition?
Do you think it would be possible to build a coalition and bring people like Rick Perry of Texas in?
And even i if it's Trump then bring in Cruz and and Kasik and Rubio and Walker and Bobby Gindle and maybe Nikki Haley, I mean, some of the real stars in the Republican Party, and almost create like a superstar administration of the best and brightest Republicans, people that have really fundamentally changed things in their states for the better.
Do you think something like that would ever be possible or am I off the deep end as usual?
No, no, I th I think you could put together that kind of coalition, and I think you might be surprised how many people you would get that are uh a lot more um than just the folks you're you know you're the the you'd normally expect.
I th I think people are so concerned about what's happening around the world.
And they look at the economy, they look at uh what's happened with oil, they look at uh the things that are happening in Saudi Arabia, the things happening in Iran, and North Korea, which uh was testing a submarine launch missile the other day.
Uh I think that there is a desire, and I think if you know Trump Trump in phase one had to prove he could be a candidate and he had to prove he could win even with nobody helping him, because the truth was nobody was going to help him.
Uh now that he's proven he can do that, uh I think uh the next phase for him is to build the broadest possible coalition and in the Reagan tradition to include independents and Democrats.
And I think that's a very important part of this.
You know, I think uh you know, one of the things that I think people uh that are conservative, for example, the cruise supporters want to know is Donald Trump really a conservative?
Is this transformation real?
Uh I know he's talked about naming, for example, twelve or thirteen people he would consider for the Supreme Court way ahead of any election in November.
You know, apparently he's gonna give a speech on his judicial philosophy and name names of people, which is fairly unprecedented.
I mean, I think him not being a politician, maybe thinking out of the box and announcing who your VP's gonna be, as well as your Secretary of State, as well as your Department of Homeland Security Secretary, as well as your Health and Human Services Secretary and your defense secretary, you know, might be something that would f pe a lot of people would find interest and confidence in.
Well, and you know, you you also have the fact nobody's yet tried to take him seriously enough to try to think through what is Trumpism.
I mean, you know, if if you had Reaganism and and and you had Goldwaterism on our side, um, what what is it that that Trump is about beyond the the bombast and and the showmanship and the the ability to be PT Barnum?
And I think what you find is that there are patterns and characteristics that are very real, uh, that he's very practical.
Uh he is uh very willing to take on stupidity.
Uh he uh he is very anti-political correctness.
Uh and I think that you go down a list of these things, He's very much an American nationalist.
I mean he he believes the job of the president of the United States is to start every morning worrying about the United States, and only then when you have made sure that the United States is okay, do you start thinking about other folks?
I I think that frankly would be a healthy uh resetting of our policies and our attitudes.
How confident of drifted to.
How confident are you that either Cruz or Trump will defeat Hillary?
Oh, I'm I'm very confident.
Uh Hillary is an extraordinarily weak candidate.
Uh she is I mean, look look watch her stumbling around with Sanders.
I mean, Sanders is a seventy-three-year-old Vermont Senator who is an explicit socialist who never never joined the Democratic Party to decide to run, uh, who has now raised more money than Hillary, uh, is a position to stay in all the way to the convention, uh, has absolute scorn for him.
If you watch him, he has contempt for her.
Uh his supporters uh d deeply dislike her.
Uh I think maybe as much as a third of the Sanders votes gonna go to Trump.
So I I think we have a very real chance of uh beating Hillary.
Uh and I I think frankly, the bigger the election issues start starting with one you raised, which is what kind of Supreme Court would Donald Trump nominate, and what kind of uh Supreme Court would Hillary Clinton nominate, and boy, if if that isn't a dramatic difference.
I don't know.
So you are convinced it's not gonna be a contested convention.
I th I think it's very, very, very unlikely.
Okay, now tree varies is a lot.
Now we have five states in play today, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland.
You will be our first guest for the first couple of segments tonight on Hannity.
We have Bill Hemer at the big board, Mr. Speaker.
Thank you for joining us.
We'll see you tonight uh live at ten.
Thanks.
All right, thank you very much.
Welcome home, by the way.
Uh it is big news today that John Kasich has decided to pull out of Indiana to give us a head-to-head contest with Donald Trump.
That is good for the men and women of Indiana.
It's good for the country.
I don't see this as any big deal, other than the fact that I'm not going to spend resources in Indiana, he's not going to spend them in other places.
So what?
What's the big deal?
Well, is there an agreement or is there an alliance or is there not an alliance?
By the way, look who just showed up today.
Special name, Sunshine.
Did you see the picture of my puppy?
Marley, did you put Marley up on my uh website, Hannity.com?
Well, you put it on Twitter, so I didn't put it on your website.
Well, put put a picture of I sent you a special copy of Marley to put up there.
I'm gonna put that special picture up there.
Now what did I say after Duffy died?
I said I can't talk about it.
I don't want to talk about it.
I don't I can't.
I just words were never again.
And I said I'd never do it again.
And I am so in love with this puppy, I can't even tell you.
I let the puppy sleep with me, which you're not supposed to do.
Yeah, she sleeps in the bed with me.
Why can't she sleep with you?
Well, you know when you're training a puppy, you gotta cray train it.
So I guess that's disgusting, and no, that's not what you have to do.
No, that's how you train a puppy to create you cray train it.
Sunshine and I both agree that is incorrect.
All right.
Let me let me just let me just lay this out for all of you.
If you want your dog or cat peeing all over your house and making it stink to high heavy.
I don't have that problem.
Well, I don't, but the b you know what the funnier story is is Gracie, who's four years old, is afraid of the little puppy.
And Gracie's a hundred-pound Bernese mountain dog.
It's hilarious.
And I never thought I'd get another one.
I can't take the pain of losing a dog.
I don't want to talk about it.
I don't want to I don't want to think about it.
I just hate it.
It's the worst part, you know, when that happens.
And uh, but then I see another dog and I'm like, oh, I'll take it.
I'll take it.
You know the best thing about animals?
Animals are loyal.
Human beings are not loyal, right?
How many people do we know that are not loyal?
It's unbelievable.
And you know what?
They love you unconditionally.
They don't ask for much, a little food.
And I spoil my dogs rotten.
I know you're not supposed to.
But my my philosophy is kind of simple.
If I knew I only had twelve years to live, average life span, right, of a dog somewhere in there, twelve, thirteen, fourteen snowball lives seventeen years when she was a really small dog.
All right, so your life span is twelve years.
So maybe you lose a half a year, but if I'm eating steak, my dog is eating steak.
If I'm eating a hamburger, my dog is eating a hamburger.
If I'm eating chicken, my dog is eating chicken.
There's no fear that the dog's gonna have seafood because I hate most seafood.
And I don't eat a lot of seafood.
And I even feed them vegetables.
They eat broccoli and let's see, asparagus.
I don't give them corn.
That wouldn't be good.
That wouldn't be good for the dog.
Um why not spoil the dog?
Why not give the what's the big deal?
And you have all these purists that are like, you can't feed them table food.
I'm like, yeah.
I mean, that's what they most want.
I go to the refrigerator, and there they are, their tails wagging a thousand miles an hour because they want what I want.
And whatever I pull out, they're like, oh, what's daddy gonna pull out today?
So excited.
I just love dogs.
So this one is really special.
This is the s this dog, eight weeks old, plays fetch perfectly.
I throw the ball, it fetches it, and it brings it back and hands it to me.
I throw the ball, it fetches it, brings it back, hands it to me.
Now, one of the things that was somewhat controversial, which I shared with my team is when the dog arrived, I immediately started saying, sit down.
You have to become the alpha immediately.
And it's amazing.
If I'm in the house and everybody else is in the house, the puppy follows me everywhere, and Gracie follows me everywhere, and it drives, and Gracie only listens to me.
Nobody can get Gracie to do anything but me in the house.
It drives everybody else nuts.
And I'm like, that's because I'm the alpha male.
And you've got to make sure you're the alpha male.
I know people that own dogs that they run over the whole house.
They control everything.
Yeah, they do.
Yes, they absolutely I've seen it.
How many dogs, Linda, do you have in your house?
I have one dog.
One dog?
I live in an apartment.
How many cats do you have?
I have two cats.
Yeah.
Oh, and the fat one that was 400 pounds that you had to send the fat cat square.
Is that a friend's house?
No.
Very thin.
Running the fields now.
All right, I saw how fat that cat is.
That was the size of ten cats.
You nearly fed that cat to death.
Listen, when I got her, she was starving.
Oh, and by the time she left, she weighed 400 pounds.
Forget about it.
Listen, just like first of all, she was not 400 pounds.
All right, take a picture of that fat cat at its fattest and put it up on our website.
She was never fat.
That cat was humongous.
You had to send it to the fat cat farm.
I just gave it to a friend so she could get some exercise, because you can't get exercise in an apartment.
Okay, but you fed that cat.
It was four.
Here's what four times the size of a normal cat.
Just like human beings, animals, they metabolize food differently.
That is such a crock of food.
It is not that is such a crop.
You will see two dogs from the same family.
Two dogs.
And one dog is perfectly fit and the other dog, eh, a little bit of weight around the middle.
They're eating the same thing.
They have the same activity.
No.
No.
You overfed the cat.
Negative.
Yeah.
But then why is the cat skinny now?
Because she runs more.
Oh, well, you wouldn't take you.
So you wouldn't even take care of the cat to take the cat out.
First of all.
First of all.
I took that freaking cat everywhere.
Yeah.
First of all.
I walked that cat on the leash.
Listen, take a picture of the cat.
There's the question.
And I want you to put a poll question underneath it.
And I want to say, did Linda overfeed the cat?
And then, or do you think, and second choice is, or is this a metabolism problem?
And I have a better point.
And I guarantee you the answer is going to be you overfed the fat cat.
No.
Yes.
You're wrong.
I'm not wrong.
I'm going to put up a poll.
Poll.
And it's going to be a video of you in your alpha male stance status.
Bossing around an eight-week old puppy who looks like it's just wants to roll around in its fluffiness.
No, no, no.
But listen, did you notice right away?
I got the cat.
I'm sorry, I got no, I hate cats.
I don't, I'm not a cat guy.
I got my what are you doing?
What are you showing pictures of?
Sunshine also walks her cat on a leash.
Oh, good grief.
On a leash?
Well, what do you want us to let our cats walk?
Listen, free.
The funniest thing is when you go to Disneyland and you see all the fat people eating those stupid turkey legs.
You ever notice that?
It's always the 400-pound guy.
I've never been there.
That's eating a turkey.
Oh, you will in three years.
You're going to be there.
Trust me, with little Liam, and you're going to hate every minute of it.
Oh, wonderful.
And everyone's going to tell you have a wonderful day, and you're going to be like, shut up.
I don't want to hear that anymore.
You're going to give your New York X don't talk to me about that whole day.
You know, how do I get to the stupid place?
You mean I got to wait two freaking hours to get on that dumb ride?
Jeez.
I have I have a very uh, you know, PG 13 party in front of my son.
Very PG 13 party.
All right, back to the cat.
So you can take now, notice what my dog Marley did though.
Within seconds, I had her sitting, I had her laying down, I had her standing on command, and two days later she fetches the ball and she brings it back to me.
That's pretty amazing.
I think that dog's a genius.
That dog is gorgeous and is beautiful and she's perfect.
Oh, I'm surprised I haven't gotten the lecture that it's not a uh that it's a pure bread.
All dogs deserve love.
It's not her fault where she came from.
But what would you prefer to get your you know, these ugly mutts from where?
I prefer to get animals that might end up on, you know.
Death row.
Right.
All right, I actually would pay money to save their lives.
I would donate money to save it.
When I become you know, very wealthy, hopefully, someday.
No, I'm gonna get a big far.
You do know that I was a dishwasher and a win.
And a carpenter and a carpenter and a painter, paper hanger, and a tile layer and bartender.
No, you know, you say that as if my story's not true, and every job I had is No, I just like to break 'em.
Break what?
With those things that you have.
Oh, break them.
I like to break them.
Uh-huh.
Lots of fun.
All right, let's get to some phone calls here.
You know, I I one thing I'm getting tired of.
I am so t I know people are so wrapped up in the election.
This Cruz hating Trump, Trump hating Cruz, you know, social media fanaticism is driving me nuts.
I just like, you know, I feel like a great philosopher, Rodney King.
Can't we all just get along at some point?
Are people gonna not see the big picture that Hillary rotten Clinton to quote our friend Mark?
That she can't be president.
Make a list, follow the Ben Franklin rule.
What is this candidate gonna do a president on immigration?
What is this cun candidate gonna do on the economy?
How's this candidate gonna deal with ISIS?
And compare it to what Hillary's gonna do.
Yeah, that was Hillary.
You know, I was doing that joke when we were on the road.
I I would say, all right, what candidate am I?
Woof, woof, woof.
I'd do that, and everybody would laugh.
And then I'd say, which candidate am I now?
She had another coughing fit yesterday.
Two.
She had two coughing fits.
The headline on Drudge right now is Democrat turnout, down millions, cough cough, and a picture of Hillary.
She can't speak for 20 minutes.
All of the real building blocks of our economy.
And so I need your help to do that.
Uh-huh.
I also need your help to let me get a drink of water.
God forbid this was Marco Rubio.
I I have been talking nonstop for weeks now.
So forgive me.
I stick a lozenge in my mouth here.
Thank you.
Aha!
That's bad!
I can't take it.
I'm just chilling in Cedar Rapids.
All right, let's go to um our busy phones.
As we check in with Aaron is in California.
Aaron, how are you?
You're on the Sean Hannity show.
What's up?
Hi, um, I just wanted to talk about the thing that's going on with Cruz and Casey and uh give a little perspective on the effect that had on um voters that were undecided.
My mom democrat and uh she she started to really like Trump.
But then because of his negative, she started looking into K6.
And after this happened, she won a hundred percent show.
Uh so I don't think it was a good move.
You know, I've got I've seen a lot of that on social media.
A lot of people really didn't like this alliance to stop one candidate.
Um you know, look, I I think the big test the next big test, if Trump sweeps tonight, like the polls I I'd be stunned and shocked beyond words if he doesn't win big tonight.
The next real big test is gonna be Indiana.
If if Trump wins Indiana, I see, and with his poll numbers in other places, California, New Jersey, West Virginia, etc., I don't see how you stop him from getting to twelve thirty seven at that point.
I'm again I'm only giving objective analysis here, and when I give objective analysis, it annoys people.
You know, all last week it was, oh, Hannity and Cruz got in this big fight.
We're not in fighting at all.
And I said on the radio last week, I like Ted Cruz.
I got along fine with Ted Cruz.
Ted Cruz has shown a lot of courage as a candidate.
He's a brilliant constitutional conservative.
He's he's he's done incredible things for conservatives.
So we had a little pissing match because he kind of took a shot at me and I got pissed off.
Anyway, we're we're good.
He was on TV last night.
Now la that was last week.
This week, this is a headline today.
I don't know who wrote this thing.
Blame Sean Hannity for supporting Cruz and helping Hillary, not for supporting Trump.
I can't win.
I cannot win in this election.
Barbara Winston Salem, beautiful North Carolina, home of uh the new ACC tennis champions, the uh demon uh what do you call those guys?
The demon deeks over at uh Wake Forest.
How are you?
I am great.
I want to just make a comment since you're talking about dogs.
I love your show.
I love Linda because of her passion for animals, and I still weep thinking about the dog that you lost a couple of years ago.
I rescue great tyrannies, and guess what else?
What else?
Bernese Bernice Mountain dogs.
And we have come to realize that all the dogs we have rescued are Democrats.
Why is that?
Every single one.
Oh, because they beg and want everything for free.
Exactly.
Yeah, but that's okay.
In their case, you know what?
That's right.
That's my handout.
But they are just waiting for the next handout, and that's where it's okay and appropriate.
The only thing I regret about Bernice Mountain Dogs, and a very good friend of mine breeds them in Alabama.
Actually, it was a guy at the radio station, he owned the radio station when I was down in WVN in Huntsville, Alabama.
He got me into Bernice Mountain Dogs.
And I just hate that the breed does not live long.
I mean, if you get nine years out of out of a Bernice Mountain Dog, that's that's a long time.
It's frustrating.
Amy is in Colorado Springs.
Thank you, Barbara.
What's up, Mamie?
You have one minute.
Go.
Hey, Sean, good to talk to you.
Um just mind to say thank you for what you do, and I'm really, really excited about this election.
I've been a lifelong Republican, and I'm frustrated with the party as a whole, but I'm excited to vote.
And I'm gonna get out there this year and be sure and do it.
If the Republicans follow the the model that governors like Jindel, Haley, Kasich, Walker, Rick Perry, if they have that bold, inspiring agenda, they can win.
If they unite, they can win.
And if Republicans, you know, at the at some point you're gonna have to find unity.
There's only gonna be one winner.
And if you don't find unity, you're gonna lose.
There's I have zero doubt in my mind.
And for, you know, I would urge people to to you know, let's see what the team is that people build around them.
If it's Cruz, let's see what team he builds around them.
Let's see if it's Trump, let's see what team he builds around them.
My guess is they're both gonna have a deep bench of really bright, smart people that can transform the country back into what it ought to be.
Not the disaster in decline that it currently is.
It's not hard to do this.
You live within your means, you balance your budget, you stop stealing from your kids, you grow the economy, you allow money the corporations, multinational corporations have overseas to bring it back and repatriate that money at a low rate.
They'll build manufacturing centers and factories here.
You become energy independent, you get rid of Obamacare, you offer health care savings accounts, competition, portability, job to job.
You secure the borders, so we don't have ISIS coming across, and we don't have competition for the ninety-five million Americans out of work that drives down wages.
You get better trade deals, you have choice and education.
You know, this isn't that complicated.
You identify Islamic terrorism for what it is.
Joining us now, we have Donald Trump supporter Jonathan Gillum, serious radio XM host and former Navy SEAL.
We have uh Kasich supporter Ami Horowitz.
He hopes upon hope, and uh is also a political satirist and uh cruise supporter, Guy Short, political and fundraising strategist for campaign solutions, and uh welcome all of you.
Thank you.
All right, five big states, massive leads for Trump.
Jonathan Gillam, you're a Trump supporter.
What do you expect tonight?
Well, what I hope what I hope and what we've seen so far is that the people are rallying around tr uh Trump uh for the right reasons for the fact that uh he's not playing the political game that is now so exposed.
Um and what I really hope to see is people that are waking up to this game that Cruz and Kasich are playing.
Now they're somewhat playing it together, can't really tell.
But you know, Trump, love him or hate him, has gotten into this race, and he has thrown a spotlight on exactly what those two guys are doing, the game that they're playing, and that's what I hope in these states people go and they vote their conscience, they vote for effective leadership that's proven that shows operational experience, and that would be Trump.
So how do you explain Ami Horowitz?
I know you're a big Kasich supporter.
Kasich has won one of forty two contests.
Um he's not leading in any it's gonna be one of forty seven by the end of today.
He's not gonna win any of the races today.
How does he how does he get the right being behind by millions and millions of votes, being behind by you know, nearly a thousand delegates at this point, and um, you know, having only won his own home state.
What gives him the right to jump over Ted Cruz and Donald Trump uh who have done so much better in the campaign than him?
And why would you why would you support disenfranchising all of those voters?
Okay, well, first of all, if you can't hear me properly, it's because I have a lot of pancake stuff in my mouth, so I apologize for that going in.
And why do you have pancakes stuffed in your mouth?
Well, because the the the chief of etiquette, Donald Trump, uh apparently said that John Kazakh speaks with pancakes in his mouth all the time.
No, well the actually was uh there was a scene where they was being interviewed by the media and talking to Neaton at the same time, which is what he was referring to.
Well, the the man's gotta eat, right?
I mean, the man's gotta eat.
Do you have to eat during an interview?
Seriously?
Really?
During an interview?
So back to the issue that you just brought up about this notion of right, which by the way, fundamentally doesn't make any sense.
There is no issue of rights.
Who has the right to be the nominee?
Right.
The issue is who j just just recently the RNC was briefed by their political team, and their political team said that if Donald Trump became president, it would be a bloodbath.
Donald Trump is putting uh uh Southern states that have never voted haven't voted Democrat in decades back in play.
The issue be is very simple.
The issue is who is going to keep had the presidency or Republican presidency exactly.
Okay, but wait a minute.
You're you're acting as though the voters, the people that have voted for Trump and Cruz somehow are too stupid to think this through the way you have.
No, no, no.
That's what you're assuming because the voters by the millions and millions disagreed with you and your analysis.
And they're waiting, let's keep it simple.
If if Trump wins the nomination, he'll have lost the majority of the Republican vote, correct?
And if and if Kubernetes might have won't be majority of the Republican vote.
Well, first of all, by the time we finish the next ten contests after today, who knows if he has won half uh of of the votes by the time all said and done, we don't know.
Republican primary.
So now if you're saying he can be in the other person can't, now you're being arbitrary.
Is that right?
How can we not?
How can you say that of uh that it's a fact that nobody has the will?
What we can measure, you can't measure will, what you can measure are votes, and I can guarantee you Kasich and Cruz will not show up with that number.
That's a fact.
Well, I can get I okay, but I'm you can't guarantee that Cruz that uh Trump can tell you as a as a metaphysical fact, as we stand today, Donald Trump does not have a majority of the Republican.
Yeah, the election's not over with metaphysical fact.
We still have 10 more rounds to go.
We're all talking conjecture going forward.
We're talking about a snapshot of where we are today.
And where we are today is nobody has a majority.
So nobody has a quote-unquote right to that nomination.
Sean, is it may uh how can somebody say that nobody has a majority?
You know what I find amazing about your analysis because everything that you say, oh well Trump doesn't have a majority.
He still has millions and millions and millions of millions of more votes, as does Ted Cruz than your guy.
And so, you know, you're making a case, oh well, he doesn't have enough millions more than my guy.
Anyway, let's go let guy short 'cause that'cause that'cause that's what the rules state, not me.
Not Ami Horowitz.
The ra the rules state twelve state.
Okay, twelve all right, yeah.
Okay, then twelve thirty seven is the magic number.
All right, you're stating the obvious.
Let's take uh guy short here.
What is your take?
Look, the as as you just said, the rules say you got to get twelve thirty-seven, and as we speak today, nobody has reached twelve thirty-seven, and nobody is going to reach twelve thirty-seven going into the convention.
Sean, I am a delegate.
I will be one of those uh uh one of those votes.
Um obviously I'm a cruise fair.
By the way, you don't you can say that you don't know whether or not Trump gets to twelve thirty-seven.
I mean, tonight he's gonna he's dominating in the polls in the five states that are going on tonight.
The latest two polls out of Indiana, they can go either way.
I I will admit that the Cruz Kasich Alliance certainly might change the dynamic, but in the last two polls he was either up by eight or six, so it's certainly a state in play.
He's winning in New Jersey, winner take all.
He's winning in West Virginia, and he's w winning fairly significantly in California, which is you know, 172 delegates.
Look, it it Donald Trump very well may have a good night tonight.
Ted Cruz has had uh very good past few weeks and it has amassed uh a lot of delegates.
Uh this is a marathon, not a sprint.
We're moving on to Indiana, Nebraska, Washington, Montana, South Dakota, called the COVID.
Well, are you or did you make a deal with Kasich that you're gonna be in some states and not other states?
Well, first of all, I didn't make any deal.
I I I'm a I'm a delegate from Colorado, I don't speak for the campaign.
Um, but the campaign, um which is one of the best campaigns that have been running the last thirty or forty years, um certainly has a right to make decisions based on what they think gives them the best opportunity to get to twelve thirty-seven.
That's what the campaign has done.
No, it's not that wait a minute.
That's not true either.
It is mathematically now, hang on.
Mathematically, neither Kasich or or Senator Cruz can get to twelve thirty-seven.
So the the alliance is designed to prevent Trump from getting to twelve thirty-seven.
Sean, one candidate is gonna get to twelve thirty-seven and be our nominee, whether that's on the first ballot, the second ballot, or the twentieth ballot.
One candidate will get to twelve thirty-seven, and what the Cruise campaign has done is make make their decision based on their best chance to get to twelve thirty-seven on multiple ballots.
That's what they're doing.
Um I think they're doing a fantastic job.
And what you're doing, what you're hoping for, your strategy is similar to that of John Kasich, is you're hoping this is a contested convention, but so that you will have a second ballot, otherwise you will not.
Well, I'm hoping that Ted Cruz is the ultimate nominee because we need a nominee who can defeat Hillary Clinton.
And and um and Ami and I agree that uh that Donald Trump's gonna get trounced by Hillary Clinton.
Okay, what's your take, Jonathan?
Well, first off, I think it's very interesting that the Ted Cruz person that's speaking on this show right now is a delegate.
Because the majority of people I can tell you out there right now are thinking that delegates are elected to be representatives of their district.
And a delegate was I was trying to wrap my mind about that, but it's a delegate from Colorado where the people had no vote.
So you shouldn't speak about what you don't know.
Well, listen, I do know.
I do know what the people think.
I do know.
No, no, listen, let me tell you something.
What I do know it's a good thing.
First of all, let me tell you what I do know.
The people do not agree with you.
That's what I'm gonna tell you right now.
And that's where Donald Trump is gonna win this, is that he knows what the people what they think.
And what they think is that the Democratic and the Republican national committees are private companies, and they are screwing this country by monopolizing the political system at every seat in government from city, state, and federal, all the way to the Supreme Court, those two private companies have dominated and monopolized the entire political system.
Caucus is in Colorado and I voted.
Four of us voted for Ted Cruz and my caucus, three people voted for Ben Carson, only one person voted for Donald Trump.
You want to come to my caucus and tell everybody who voted that they didn't have to be able to do that.
I don't have to go to your caucus.
I'll tell you right now that the Republican and the Democratic National Committees have bastardized the entire political system.
You all monopolize it, and that's why you're choosing the person that you want to choose completely against what the people want.
Don't know what you're talking about.
I do, because I'm a person.
I'm a citizen of the United States.
Well, everybody's a good thing.
Yeah, you're a delegate.
Yeah, listen.
I'm a citizen of the United States.
I'm somebody who served this country.
In the military John.
In the FBI, I'm somebody who's laid my life down the line, and people are sick and tired of these two private companies, of which you are a part of.
I'm not a part of, but I do appreciate the people on the line, so that those of us in Colorado have the right to vote and we exercise that on March 1st.
When you when you have a convention, though, doesn't it limit the number of people?
Like for example, I understand sixty five thousand people participated in Colorado, where if you had a primary or a caucus, you might have had as many as a million.
Um no, the uh it didn't limit the the caucus didn't limit the participation whatsoever, Sean.
Every single report, but the re but the reality is but the reality is conventions tend to do that.
I mean, that's just the reality.
People it's not as participatory as either a primary or a caucus.
Sean, we we showed up at the same place as we show up to vote on it in a general election or in a primary election.
They're all they're all the same location.
We showed up, every single Republican.
Well, let's do this question.
And it was a closed primary though.
Now let's be clear though, right?
We didn't let Democrats and unaffiliated here in Colorado.
They did they couldn't come to Republican caucus.
Let me ask this question closed process.
If Donald Trump wins, will you support him?
I've always supported the nominee.
Look, when I was a delegate in the city, I didn't ask you if you've always supported, I said if Donald Trump wins, will you support him?
If Donald Trump is is the nominee, which I don't believe he will be, but if Donald Trump is the nominee, I will vote for Donald Trump.
And Jonathan, would you support Ted Cruz?
Uh you know, I have to support him because he's the only conservative uh if he got nominated, it would be in the presidential race, and that's a shame.
Listen, I I I'm gonna support the Republican nominee.
Uh the most important thing is we don't let a Democrat which is why.
When I go back to the let me go back to my last question.
What gives John Kasich?
And I love John Kasich.
I've known him for years.
I'd even call him a friend.
But what gives him the right to jump leap over or leapfrog over two candidates with dozens of more state wins, millions and millions of more votes.
And excuse me.
It's not talking points.
It's a reality, it's truth.
And and hundreds and hundreds of more delegates, ten times the amount of delegates.
I wasn't talking about the issue of rights or but you want to talk about the issue of rights.
I'll tell you who gives him the right.
Who gives him the right is a repat Republican National Committee.
That's who gives them the right.
Because in their own.
So but but to do but listen to me, Ami, Ami.
To do to do that, you have to disenfranchise Trump and Cruz voters, millions more.
And you're ha you're okay with the system that would do that?
Who uh it's not uh either we're talking about an indictment of the system, which by the way, I don't disagree with you guys on.
It's a Byzantine system that probably should be changed, and the only reason why we know what's going on now is because there's a spotlight on it because of this weird waste.
Why why doesn't John Casey just partner with either Cruz or Trump?
Wait a second.
Well, wait a second.
Let me get me asked the first question first.
What gives him the right?
We talk about disenfranchising, no matter who wins, the majority of the voters are going to be disenfranchised.
You realize that, right?
If Trump wins, probably the majority of voters will be disenfranchised using your word.
It's not it's not disenfranchised we're talking about somebody that actually has one more states, has millions or more votes, and hundreds in the case of Trump versus Kasig, ten times more delegates.
Hey, Sean, hey Sean, let me ask you a question.
Why in South Carolina, when Trump only won thirty percent of the delegates, why did he get a hundred per excuse me, thirty percent of the vote, and he got a hundred percent of the delegates.
And in that problem, remember how many people I'm saying if you listen closely to what I say, I want three things out of the Republican Party.
You either have a caucus or a primary for maximum participation.
You either have winner take all a proportional distribution, you tell everybody ahead of time.
Also, I think every delegate should be bound on the first vote.
That's all I'm asking for.
There's no whining here.
I don't have any I don't I don't have a dog in the race.
That that's okay, but that's not the process.
And when we can all change the process, but that wasn't the process.
But the process is screwed up.
There are many flaws in this process.
The process has had a hundred and fifty years to learn how to screw the people.
And I'm telling you, if all the voters, I don't care if they're liberal or conservative, if they just thought about these two things, who is the most proven effective leader versus who is the most incompetent person out there.
If they just do that and forget about a Republican and Democrat, they'll pick the right person.
Thank you all for being with us.
All right, let's get to uh our busy telephones here.
Let's go to Stephen.
He's in Pittsburgh PA today, where voting is going on in the great state of Pennsylvania.
What's going on, Steven?
How are you?
Glad you called.
Good.
Thank you, Sean, for taking my call.
Love your show.
I've just been debating between Trump and Cruz for well, months now.
My head my head basically says, hey, vote for Cruz because everything he says, my heart says vote for Trump.
Anyways, this cruise Trump or this Cruz Casic Alliance thing, just it just rubs me the wrong way, and I think today I settled my vote going in to vote for Trump.
Nothing.
What is what is it about the alliance that you didn't like?
Because this is the outline that was laid out by Romney here two months ago.
And if these guys if these guys had laid down and consented to the Obama agenda while giving lip service to us the last seven years.
If they fought Obama's agenda as hard as they are fighting Trump, we wouldn't even need Trump right now.
Mm-hmm.
So that that's what really bugs me.
It's not so much Cruz, but it's like when you start making alliances with these guys and following footprints that even Romney laid out it's like that that bugs You know the the irony to me and and again I've been accused of supporting everybody which is kind of amusing to me at times irritating at other times.
You know the headline remember all last week was oh Hannity's fighting with Cruz.
Well Cruz was on my show last night and with no issues with Ted Cruz whatsoever.
I mean we had a contentious moment on radio you know everyone could have a bad day.
Anyway so today's headline is blame Sean Hannity for supporting Cruz and helping Hillary not for supporting Trump.
I can't I cannot win.
The only thing I can do is really continue to stay focused on my original promise, my original pledge, which is to let you decide on your own.
I'm not telling anybody in the primary who to vote for.
I was surprised by the alliance as well.
I really was.
Usually that's something you'd expect in the lead up to the possible contested convention at that point.
But this is odd to me because I can tell you for a fact, and I probably shouldn't review, there's really bad blood between the two camp.
Well, actually now between the three remaining campaigns, there's bad blood.
It just is, especially between Cruz and Trifton.
Trump supporters but Kasich and and Cruz supporters.
So I wish it weren't the case it's part of politics this is partly a blood sport there are people that feel strongly on all sides.
You know think about what goes into making a decision to support a candidate.
You know we started well over a year ago at CPAC.
Remember I interviewed not this past EPAC the C PAC before in March of what, twenty fifteen and I interviewed the potential candidates.
I mean that's how far back this goes and people would watch the interviews and listen to the interviews and and some people would pick one candidate and they were locked in and they stayed locked into that candidate and then if their candidate ended up dropping out they're disappointed then they pick another candidate and and some people I know have switched from candidate A to B to C to D and back to A again.
So but the people that are making those decisions you gotta have respect for them because they're they're following their own heart their own intuition the issues that matter most to them they are they're looking at other factors that maybe others don't think should be up for consideration electability maybe is one or who would be a good vice president who's more likely to shake up the system who's got the best most creative innovative ideas who who's more likely to stand on principle.
A lot of factors going into people's decisions.
You know back to that column I mentioned now for a couple of days about you know people's friendships being destroyed over this campaign season.
It's ridiculous to me.
I mean I even have friends of mine like Doug Sean I'll make mention Doug Sean.
He'll vote for Hillary.
I don't hate the guy I think he's dumb politically to vote for her, but you know it's I just don't hate him.
There are some people that deserve contempt anyway he's not one of them.
Uh Donovan in Minneapolis what's up Donovan how are you?
Hey Sean how you doing I'm good sir.
Hey I I wanted to call you last week but I couldn't get through so um I'm going back to the narrative that you've been talking about about Cruz convincing Trump so called Trump delegates to convince them to come over to Cruz's side on the second ballot.
Yeah.
And I I'm frustrated 'cause I think it's an intellectually dishonest statement.
What are you what are you frustrated?
Well why would you be frustrated when I said it's within the rules well what I'm frustrated is you're saying that Cruz is convincing a Trump delegate there is no such thing as a Trump delegate.
They're bound.
But what Cruz is doing is there's there's two parts of an election you have a preference poll and you have a a delegate election.
I'm from Minnesota.
I went to a caucus we did a preference poll and right after that we did a delegate election.
All right but hang but hang on a second uh What I was talking specifically about is Ted Cruz's campaign.
By the way, well within the rules, smart to do.
He was way ahead of the curve in thinking this had the possibility of becoming a contested convention.
So he organized on the ground better than other campaigns, and what he has been doing is courting committed bound delegates of other candidates, and he's saying, hey, if there's a second ballot, I want you to come with us.
Well, so what's the problem with me describing that process?
I didn't say it was it's well within the rules.
Everybody knew about it ahead of time.
The I do have some questions about, and I was a little surprised to discover that you can offer airfare and hotel rooms and expensive dinners.
I don't like that part because I think, believe it or not, some people might be swayed by such courting, but that's part of the rules too.
So you are saying Cruz is doing that?
No, no, no.
I have no— How could we just stop bringing�도 an airfare cruiseiğ isn't… No, no, no, no.
Slow down here.
I did not say Cruz did that.
I am saying in the course of discovering the process of and this is for any candidate of courting delegates of another person.
I had Rheinz Privis on this program.
I had Randy uh Evans on Hannity, Randy Evans is on the rules committee.
And I asked Randy straight up if candidate A tries to court candidate B or C's bound delegates on the first ballot, what can they offer them?
This has nothing to do with Ted Cruz, nothing to do with Donald Trump, nothing to do with John Kasich, but those are what the rules allow.
And I was surprised to discover that.
I have no evidence.
I only said that Ted Cruz is more organized, has a better ground game than the other campaigns.
That's all.
So let me be clear.
What I'm frustrated with is the language.
What language?
The language of saying a Trump bound delegate gives them misinformation.
The delegates are elected, and they generally will have a leaning in support of a candidate A or candidate B. No, but no, on the first that's not true.
Then they're bound.
All but about 150 of the delegates are bound on the first vote.
There are 150 or so unbound delegates.
That in other words, they can go any way they want.
But of the bound delegates, you have campaigns courting them.
If it was a contested convention, they're saying, I know you're bound to candidate A and B, A or B on the first ballot, come with us on the second ballot.
But putting it out that way makes it sound like it's a uh the delegate himself, me as a person, I am a delegate.
I support Trump, and you're convincing me not to support Trump.
It's different.
I am elected as an individual delegate person.
I am are you bound on the first I am then bound.
You are what?
I have my preferences as I'm elected as a delegate.
I gotta understand that.
And then I'm bound by the popularity vote.
You're bound.
Not that I'm a Trump delegate.
Okay, you're bound on the first ballot for Trump.
Has anybody courted you to be to switch on a second ballot?
And what I'm saying is there's no courting if I am if I make a delegate already being a supporter of Trump and then I'm bound by the popular vote.
There's nothing look, I I can't explain it any more simply.
Any more I I am there's nothing confusing about what I'm saying.
I am saying I have had Rhein's Previs on, I have had Randy Evans on, I have had other rules committee people on, radio and TV.
We've gone over this.
It is well within the rules to court to lobby, if you will, bound delegates for other candidates in case there's a second ballot, you're trying to entice them to come over to your side.
That's that's just what the way the system's designed.
Paul in Missouri next on the Sean Hannity show.
Hey, you're a great American.
Thank you, my friend.
What's going on, Paul?
Oh, I'm just uh thinking about the uh collusion, the way I look at it uh that happened yesterday.
I've been uh somewhat uh uh uh looking at uh Kasich and Cruz and Trump.
Couldn't make up my mind until uh yesterday, and um I just I what I'm what I saw yesterday puts both Cruz and Kasich in the same barrel with the establishment Republican Party.
And I'm I'm I'm for Trump now.
I suggested yesterday that this had a chance of backfiring if my reading of some social media is correct.
It seems I want to get the results of the poll we did on Hannity last night.
I've not asked my TV producer for it yet, but I'll ask him and I'll try and report back to you tomorrow.
Well, here's here's something else from the uh I've I've uh got a lot of friends that have uh summer Trump, summer crews, summer Kasich.
Everyone I've talked to since yesterday is going, I've had it.
I'm I'm going with Trump.
If Trump gets an of course, I'm in Missouri, we've already had our primary, but uh everyone I've talked to that was uh I'll say from the outside looking in now, rooting for Kasich or Cruz, they're going for Trump.
They they want Trump to win, and um and I think uh I think that's uh you know what you're gonna see uh nationwide.
From what I understand today, going into the day, if you go back four years, Donald Trump's got two million more votes than Romney had this time four years ago.
That is absolutely that is absolutely correct.
Well, and I know the popular votes one thing and the electoral, you know, is uh is another item, but but you know what?
If the Republican Party wants to ex uh bring in new people, and I'm and I've been a Republican for many years, but they want to bring in new people.
They need to get with each state, and in my opinion, why don't they give each state make a winner take all states and give them the same amount of delegates as that state has electorally how it's distributed now, believe it or not.
That's why let's look at the that's why California has a large number of delegates, New York has a smaller amount, Texas has a big pile.
You know, the big states have more more delegates.
Some are proportional, some are winner take all.
But I will tell you, there's a lot of sense of what you're saying here.
But I'll tell you what, you made me think of something though, Paul.
If Republicans they've they've talked so much about outreach and building the base of the party, there's no doubt that Trump has contributed to increasing the base, the intensity, the numbers of people showing up.
And yet he almost seems, you know, party wide to be rejected as this horrible person.
I don't think that's gonna bode well for a party that's looking for outreach.
I think they ought to be embracing it.
They can look in in intraparty disagreement can happen all the time.
Tell them what you disagree with them on.
You disagree with them on trade, the wall, on the temporary ban of Muslims.
You know, what do you disagree on?
And then have a a battle, but on eighty percent of the issues of balancing the budget, eliminating Obamacare, energy independence, choice in education, ending common core, building the wall.
All the candidates say the same thing on that for the most part.
Anyway, good call.
Thank you, Paul.
Uh Mike, News Radio Kogo 600, San Diego.
By the way, I want to thank the people of San Diego.
Uh when we moved over to Kogo, there were a few doubters out there.
Well, I'm not so sure we should stick with our old programming.
Well, because of the listeners in San Diego, we've now doubled the rating since we have been on Kogo Radio.
Thank you all for making that happen.
What's up, Mike?
How are you?
Hey, Mr. Hannity, I'm glad to be able to speak with you.
I was told to get to the point.
Uh lifelong blue-collar union man, Republican all my life.
In other words, you're what makes the country great.
Yeah.
Uh we only have a minute, so make it count.
Go ahead.
Yeah, well, the Colorado delegate vote, I think, pulled the curtain back on all of the all of this uh stuff going on in our electron that most of the American people just are totally unaware of.
I always thought your vote counted.
You know, they I thought the people voted for the nominee and elected the nominee, but I guess it's not true.
I just haven't been educated properly.
But you know what happens with the popular vote in the electoral college.
You understand that aspect.
In a way it's similar, right?
Well, I'm yeah, but I'm yeah, exactly.
But it's different.
I know what you're saying.
Uh it just poses a lot of stuff.
And every time these sassy surrogates get on the show on TV, and they start blabbering about how they're just following the rules.
We're following the rules, nothing wrong with that.
I I get nauseated.
I mean, by the way, I I there that listen, it's funny you say that.
There are some people, you know, that follow the rules, following the real.
I mean, I feel like punching them in the face, especially when the rules are stupid.
I really do.
By the way, I'm not advocating violence.
I just have this, you know, ninja side of me because I do martial arts.
I'm like, uh yeah.
You know, but of course I would never do it.
I am a very peaceful radio and TV host.
But it's funny you say that, because it is irritating.
Follow the rules, follow the rules, follow the sassy surrogates.
