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What do you think is the long and short of the quote-unquote Holocaust?
Obviously, those were concentration camps, work camps, and anything else.
Yeah, but they weren't being burned and shit.
The long teased, I would say, full house episode this time.
Is that right?
It is.
Yes.
I was originally planning this to be episode 96 back in the day.
And then that one ended up being, I think there was a Cantwell news update that ended up taking it over.
Full House is one that I've been, you know, the show's been running since like 2018 or maybe very early 2019.
So it's been running approximately the same length of time that this podcast has been going.
And it's always been my little like ace of the hole.
You know, it's a, it's one that not a whole lot of people knew about, but if you knew about it, you could make a lot of connections.
There was a lot of the, you know, people would let their hair down on Full House more so than they would in other places.
So it was always nice to kind of get the, get the lay of the land.
And so I kind of deliberately held it back just so that I didn't know.
And then when I started mentioning them occasionally on the show, then they talk about me recognizing them.
And so then I was like, well, you know, they know someone is listening.
They know I'm listening.
Anyway, so now they haven't retired, but they don't release that many episodes anymore.
And so I guess kind of, we're going to kind of introduce you to this kind of content.
And these are, as you heard in the cold open, these are explicit white nationalists.
These are Jew-hating, Holocaust-denying, you know, all but national socialists.
I think they probably quibble with the like literal national socialist part.
But I mean, these guys are, you know, every bit as, you know, every bit the white nationalist and actual socialists that you would imagine coming from the OG, I don't speak German episodes.
These are, these are our bread and butter.
This is what I'm used to.
I listen to these guys.
I've listened to every episode of this podcast from day one.
So I am conversant with who these guys are.
And we're going to go through a bunch of clips and you're going to get to learn about various things that these people go on and on about.
Let's just dive straight into it.
I feel like this has been a running ease, as I say, through for a very long time.
We've frequently the subject of full house, H-A-U-S and Matthew Q. Gerbert has come up.
But yeah, here it comes, the actual episode at long last.
If you want to dive straight in, please do.
Okay.
So the first thing you have to know is this guy, Matthew Q. Gerbert.
Gerbert, Gebert, Gebert.
I guess it's Gebert.
Doesn't have that first R.
It's G-E-B-E-R-T.
I always thought.
Okay.
Yeah, I think I've continuously mispronounced it.
He's a Nazi.
I don't really care if I get his name right, but for accuracy, it is spelled Gebert.
It's because it's, you know, it makes you think of Goering, probably.
Sorry, audience.
We were talking about a possible future bonus episode before starting the episode proper, which is the movie Nuremberg, which is why Goering is in my brain now.
It's my fault.
Goering is just kind of in our brains for, you know, whatever we come, whenever we sit down to record, how about anything?
We can talk about My Little Pony.
And some one of us would be thinking about Herman Göring, probably.
It's just the nature of this show, you know.
He did love animals.
Goering's my little pony.
My friendship with Hitler was magic.
Oh, my God.
Yes.
Anyway.
Anyway, listen, you're trying to get me off track here.
Okay.
Anyway, so I'm like Cantwell in that respect.
I just, I stop you talking about Full House.
Yes, indeed.
That is, that's what I'm saying.
You are, yes.
You are saying that well.
Both have white skin.
Yes, maybe that.
Anyway.
Well, that's the most important thing, as we know.
Well, we're going to get into that.
Believe me.
Okay, we're going to get into that very soon.
So Gebert was a actually a member.
He graduated in 2011 from George Washington University.
He was on some alumni lists.
He's he was kind of an up-and-comer.
He joined the State Department in, I think, 2013 at the U.S. State Department.
He was, it's kind of iffy.
I have like the firm details.
I don't really have a whole lot of, you know, kind of what he did and where he was, but he speaks a little bit of Russian, or at least he used to.
I believe he was stationed in Russian.
He was doing sort of some kind of official capacity.
This is a guy working in the annals of the U.S. government.
He was an up-and-comer.
He was somebody who was being groomed for, you know, higher up positions.
There's a ton of great reporting done by Mike Hayden over back when he was at the SPLC.
I have linked to a couple of those here.
And in those, you can find other in serial links if you want to know the kind of the full story.
But that's who Matthew Q Gerbert Gebert is or was.
Because in 2019, after details of his attendance of the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia on August 12, 2017 were revealed and his connection to his online alias, Coach Fenstock, which he still kind of goes by Coach Fenstock or Finn or Coach Finn.
Coach Fenstock being the name of the high school basketball cult coach in the 1980s, I think it's a 1986 film Teen Wolf.
I probably have that date wrong.
I saw Team Wolf a bunch as a kid, but I haven't seen it as an adult.
So it didn't stick with me.
So the using using characters from 80s teen properties in their in their propaganda and in their handles is pretty common for these guys.
Yeah, no, he goes by Coach Finstock.
It is very bizarre to me how many like cultural references I share with these fucking assholes.
We all grew up watching the same goddamn movies.
Anyway, it was a monoculture.
It was the 80s.
There were only so many channels, you know, like even with cable.
Anyway, so Gebert is the kind of the main man behind this.
And Full House, if you really want to understand it, it's actually sort of a sequel podcast to a previously existing thing called The Fatherland.
And Gebert was not like the lead guy on the Fatherland, but he was on the Fatherland.
The idea was this was actually one of the kind of TRS, The Right stuffed up biz associated shows like back in 2016, 2015, 2017, you're really up to, you know, up to 2018, 2019.
But, you know, for a long time, TRS was like, they just were like the reservoir where all the content went, where basically we'll put you on an RSS feed.
We'll share around the little tent.
We'll go on each of those podcasts.
We'll grow the movement that way.
Very effective in that early alt-right era.
And so The Fatherland was just kind of one of those affiliated podcasts that were just on that feed.
It was, you know, TRS has always had this, rightfully had this, this reputation as being kind of the raw chest version of itself.
You know, that's where you go to really like, you know, you're just telling racist you jokes all day and you're just saying the n-word a bunch.
Some like brain power justification, but it is meant to be like, it's meant to be like a, you know, opium anthony if they were like openly racist.
It's kind of what TRS always was.
And the Fatherland was a little bit more subdued.
It was meant to be kind of more like, no, no, we're older.
We're dads.
And we talk about fatherhood shit.
We talk about like, you know, what it's like to be a white nationalist dad and the problems of like, how do you raise a white kid in this terrible world these days?
You know?
And so, you know, with a minimum of swearing, with a minimum of the bombasticness that we've seen from the Daily Show and from other shows of that era, because that stuff was absolutely pervasive in that time period.
It was like, we're just going to go try to outedge each other over and over and over again.
And the Fatherland was more subdued.
And I listened to Fatherland ended shortly.
It ended right about the time of Unite the Right, when everybody went underground.
And I think the Fatherland was one that just sort of poofed right about that instant.
And so it actually, those episodes got removed before I started archiving.
So I don't even have an archive of the Fatherland.
Full House comes up a couple of years later.
One of the original co-hosts, Gerbert was one of the original co-hosts.
And he's now like the main guy on Full House and a kind of a spiritual successor.
It's like we're going to do kind of the same thing that the Fatherland did.
I can't really directly compare because I only listened to a couple of episodes of the Fatherland, mostly because it wasn't the entry, because they weren't, you know, being the super edgy edge lords talking about babies in the ovens and cookies and shit.
But, you know, that's kind of what the show is.
And on that level, I think if you, if you took it upon yourself to listen to Full House on a, you know, per episode basis, and you just sort of dipped in, listened to, you know, five minutes here and there.
A lot of the stuff they say, I mean, they're right-wing conservatives, but it's kind of unobjectionable.
A lot of it is they do talk, they talk a lot about, they do episodes of gardening, you know, what's it like, you know, growing your own food, homesteading.
They do episodes on, you know, potty training and, you know, like, you know, normal dad shit.
And then they come back and then they go to bat shit crazy land whenever they start talking about, oh, their actual racial beliefs.
I don't think it's meant to be like, oh, we're going to lure them in with the family talk and then turn them into white nationalists.
I think the idea is to explore, to as open white nationalists, there's an openly and supposedly white nationalist show.
I think the goal is more to describe, just describe this other part of life and actually give life advice to it's meant to be wholesome, I think is the point that I'm trying to make, but in this like twisted, twisted world.
And so, um, and I have to set that up because I have to, now I have to start playing clips.
This is all going to get put into like very weird context.
It is a very weird thing to introduce people to this stuff.
And so I just have, so what I did was I just went through all my old clips.
I spent the last couple of days just going through all those episodes, you know, listening to little bits and pieces of them.
And so I've tried to create a tapestry and I've tried to kind of walk you through a little bit kind of chronologically, although we're going to begin and end on a particular subject of some interest that says his sex.
So we're about to start talking about Nazi sex here about two minutes.
We've done it before, but now we're steaming in here.
It's about to, well, it's about to get something.
Anyway, I was going to say sticky, but that also does not seem like the, you know, it's going to get real gross, but not the, you know, the sex is beautiful.
I love sex.
I'm a sex geek.
I love sex.
These guys are, it's a different thing.
Anyway, I'm just going to introduce you to different things that I've heard.
And if you like this format, these are easy to produce because I already have everything queued up.
I don't, you know, organize it quite as, quite as neatly.
And if you like it, then let me know.
And we'll, this will be a new format for episodes.
And if it doesn't work at all, we'll never do again.
So this first clip, and I'll be into, I'll introduce you to various other characters.
They're kind of other than Gerbert, there are, they usually have a guest.
Almost every episode has a special guest that comes in to talk about some era, some thing of their expertise.
But then you've got Michael McKevitt is one of the early members of Full House, although he stepped away after a certain incident during the National Justice Party era, in which case he had a threesome.
And you remember, we've played a clip of Gerbert castigating Kevin for having had a threesome.
I told you, sex was a big part of this, you know, it's at least a part of it.
So, and he goes by a potato smasher.
That's his nom deplume or nom de podcast in that era.
Or, you know, I think because of his Irish heritage, I don't know.
And then there's someone just named Sam.
He has a, he has a fake last name, but I don't know.
I don't think he's ever been identified.
And Sam is this old school, he's, I think he has like nine kids, 10 kids, something like that, across two marriages.
And his oldest kids are in their like mid-20s, I think, maybe late 20s at this point.
But, and he's one of these old school national socialists, one of these old school, you know, wearing the screwdriver t-shirt in his 20s type thing, lives outside of Chicago or lives, lives in Chicagoland.
I think he lives either in the city or on the outskirts of the city.
He's somewhere.
I think he's actually in like northern Indiana based on some things that he says.
But so anyway, he's never been doxed.
I'm not, I'm not saying he should or shouldn't.
I'm just saying, to my knowledge, he has never been doxed.
And he does, he's weighed a heavy metal.
And that's what he's this very old school Nazi guy.
Yeah.
And so those are our three kind of main people that we're going to see at least at the beginning.
And then as another character becomes prominent, we'll play a lot of clips of this other guy, but I'll kind of introduce you to him when that becomes relevant.
So in this first clip, this is a response to a listener, like a Q ⁇ A, like a listener sent an email.
And the email was very long.
And I didn't want to play the whole thing.
Effectively, what the listener is saying is, well, I've been dating this girl and we've been dating for a few months and we're kind of falling in love.
And she's this beautiful white girl, but she has a past.
And the past is she used to sleep with a black guy.
And not only that, but like, you know, her racist grandma is like, oh, at least this one's white.
So like this has happened several times.
Like it's not just a one time I slept with a black guy, but like, you know, you slept with enough black guys that it was a pattern for you.
And so this is there.
This is, A, I've kind of given away what the response is, but let's hear it in their own.
Let's hear it in their own voices.
I think the first voice you hear will be McEvitt slash Potato Smasher.
To wet your Willie, you will think of Tyrone.
So every time you, as a white man, want to go fuck this girl that you, that you love.
And things will return to their normal state.
Now you're putting yourself in, you're putting yourself in your in his shoes.
You couldn't.
That second voice there is Gerbert.
So that was, that was Potato Smasher slash McGevitt.
Barely able to even function at the idea of sleeping with a woman who had routinely and with great pleasure, presumably, slept with black men in the past.
McKevitt.
He's discombobulated by the concept.
He does not want to say, burn this guy with fire, which I think is really what he wants to say.
The second voice there is Gerbert.
You could never get over that visceral image or aftertaste, to use a horrible metaphor.
Correct.
All right.
Sam, what are you thinking on this one, big guy?
Oh, boy.
I love how, like, this is like a genuine problem for these guys.
It is a genuine, like, oh, how could you ever get past that?
This is, I mean, you know, these guys, it's like, you know, these guys, you're supposed to be hardcore Nazis, right?
You're supposed to be like the baddest, baddest guys on the block.
You're supposed to be like the Aryan warriors, you know, out there saving the white race.
And you just get like the idea that this guy is sleeping with a girl, maybe experienced like love with a, with a black man is, is so vile to you.
You can't even, you can't even process it emotionally.
I mean, this is, you know, by description, I mean, look, for me, it doesn't matter what the races are, you know, but by description in this letter, I'm telling you what he's saying, this is a beautiful white woman.
I'm in love with her.
I want to have kids with her, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
But she has a past.
And that past is, she slept with black guys.
I'm a little bit afraid that Smasher's right there.
But if I was talking to this guy and I got to know him well, I'd say you got to probe that situation a little bit and see where her mind is.
He's already saying she's kind of liberal and things like that.
She's proud of it.
She's proud of it.
That's an important.
The liberal part is an important factor, whether she's recalcitrant or apologetic or the errors of her weight is an important factor, which we don't know in this one.
Right.
You know, it'd be one, you know, I hope spring's eternal with me, and I hate to give up on anybody.
You know, I'm always rooting for people to get together and do the right thing.
So I would say you got to probe that a little more.
You got to give it a little more time and probe and continue to red.
Probe.
He uses probe like eight times per row.
He's very fixated on the word probe.
Yes.
And, you know, the whole thing is like, well, she's a liberal.
I mean, hey, this is like a liberal girl.
She's dating someone who she knows is a white nationalist.
Like that's again part of the backstory here.
Yeah.
And she's like going with you.
Like she, you know, like it seems to me like, you know, this is, this is not something you need to worry so much about.
Like, you know, in these guys' world, you know, you're just going to fuck her into being a Nazi yourself.
Just give her, give her a great white dick and that'll finish.
It'll be fine.
But that's not, you know, they're, they're legitimately like, oh my God, how could you live with your life that way and know that your wife has been with a black dude?
God, you know, I bet she's even tasted black cock.
Oh, man, that's just, that's just vile.
Yeah.
No.
It's, it's, it's almost like there's some kind of insecurity at work here, you know.
Almost, almost.
Kill her and show her the right way.
And she might come around to saying that, yeah, that's, that's bad.
That's in the past.
I was, you know, stupid.
I was young.
Yeah.
But yeah, that is a tough one.
What, what Smash raises there is a good point that without it, without getting a little more resolution to this, this might come back into your mind again and again.
Yeah.
My first gut reaction, which is what I usually go with in these, and again, I was putting myself in his shoes is that I don't think I could get over that image, that knowledge, just because it's too sordid and too against everything that we stand for.
It's sort of like, you know, a tattoo that can't be removed.
However, however.
Okay.
And I didn't include the however, but the however.
Would you like to guess the however?
I was on the Tenths to learn what the what the caveat was.
I was going to include it.
It went on.
He babbles around it.
I'm just going to give it to you.
Do you want to guess what the however was going to be?
I could not even begin to guess, and I'm very proud to say that.
Well, wouldn't it feel great?
You know, okay, so if you drop this girl, she's probably just going to go back to fucking black guys or whatever.
And we lose one for the team.
We lose a beautiful white girl to the enemy, to the, to, to the, to the bot, to the, you know, to the subhumans, right?
But if you get, if you keep her and she's one of you and she's yours, A, you're going to be making white babies.
And B, you took one from the other team.
You converted one back to you.
So it's like, it's like a numbers game.
It's like, you know, it's like you're scoring points at a baseball game or something.
It's literally like that, you know, that, you know, that concrete.
It's, it's, it's, it's just a bizarre, like, it's just a bizarre way to think.
I mean, it's funny.
I can think like these guys because I've spent so much time in their world, but it really is one of those things where I feel like, oh, I really have to like walk you through this logic a little bit.
You know, you know, it's very different.
You know, like you tell, you said you like Taco Carlson or like, you know, Megy Kelly.
And it's like, well, most of what they're saying is because there's some like corporate speak they're trying to triangulate.
These guys aren't doing that at all.
These guys are just saying what they think.
I mean, they're obviously, you know, trying to couch this.
I mean, I think in another place they would have said, you know, no, fuck that girl.
Don't like like, don't fuck.
Get away from her.
Find yourself.
You know, anyway, we'll talk more about the fairer sex as this episode continues.
Anyway, any immediate thoughts or shall we move on to how they want to reach out to leftists?
That's the next topic.
Oh, I got to hear this immediately.
Please.
Well, they talk a lot.
They talk a lot.
This was so that original one was from episode, I think it was from episode 76.
So that was from, you know, 2021 or 2022, you know, somewhere somewhere there.
The exact date in my notes, but it's it's, you know, this one is from 2024, so we're jumping ahead quite a bit of time.
And um, useful to note that this is during the time period when students at Columbia and other universities were being were doing protests over, you know like, universities supporting, supporting the Warring Guys, supporting Israel effectively um, and the responses to those, to those protests from by by the, by the Nazi community, who very much liked the fact that people were standing up against Israel because they thought it was oh, you're standing up against the Jews.
So this uh, this is my longest clip.
We will be breaking this into segments and they, they had that delusion, in common with the most of the American mainstream media, as I recall.
Yes yes well, but on the other side, it's like no well no, you need to be actually Anti-semitic, you know like, and actually that's kind of the point of this, of this thing.
We could.
This is four minutes long.
I we will like pause and talk through this but, like you, please interrupt it whenever you need to.
We're not going to play four minutes on it, don't.
Don't worry, and there are plenty, there are easy like stopping points in here.
I got it in my notes here.
This is from episode 185 and this one one of our main speakers here is our protagonist, um.
So at this point Mcavitt has left the podcast and this guy, Rollo.
He starts out as just being an intern.
He doesn't have kids he's, he's a single guy.
I think he's dated over the course of the time period.
Anyway, he complains a lot about women.
I've included very i've included some of that, but very little of that in this, this presentation for you.
But he is probably the most aggressive of the of the Nazis on these calls.
He is the most, the most uh, overtly opinionated let's, shall we say, and he'll be the young guy whose voice you hear very shortly.
I don't think he's the first.
He might be the first person speaking in this clip, I don't know, i'm not sure, but anyway.
So this is the, this is our, our new guy.
You won't be hearing Potato Smasher anymore, unfortunately.
We've heard from him in previous episodes before.
We talked about full house.
Anyway, this one is from episode 185.
Because of that, the cops yeah, that's Rollo went in to stop it, unlike the the, the George Floyd riots and an anti-semitism bill was proposed.
So they're I don't think they're ever going to get it.
Leftists don't get it.
Those people are extremely stupid and they're crazy like they just.
They're what I just?
Well, two things.
One, some of those protesters get it and not.
You think, you think they do.
You think they have to.
I don't have to, okay okay.
So there was, there were protests happening and, despite the fact that nobody did anything to protesters during the George Floyd era which is not true, but it's just a it is a mark of faith among these guys that that nobody, nobody, did anything to counteract violent lawlessness during the summer of 2020.
It's just, it is just, it is.
This is something that they will never, ever not believe.
That it's just it is it is.
The earth is round and nobody nobody, no leftists served any jail time over George Floyd.
You know that's.
Those are two things.
And the earth is round thing is a little questionable for some of them.
I was gonna say water is wet, then you know whatever.
You know, Jews are evil, You know, anyway, so with that background, without kind of knowing where that is, and they're literally having an argument about, like, well, do the leftists, do the, do these people protesting it on these camps, on the campus of Columbia, et cetera,
do they know that they're really because in their mind, like, if I'm an anti-Semit, if I'm a racist, and this will come very clear as the, if I'm a racist, I know that the real thing that I'm fighting is not Semitism, it's not Zionism, it's not the state of Israel, it's Jews, it's Jews as a race, that they have certain characteristics that I am opposed to, they are opposed to me, and I'm opposed to them.
That is the nature of, that is the, that is the fundamental fact about the world.
That's what these people believe, right?
And so, in their mind, the question is: well, do these, do these little wishy-washy leftist protesters know what I know, which is that the problem is Jews, or do they believe this nonsense thing about structural power and imperialism, et cetera, et cetera, which is obvious nonsense.
It's obvious nonsense that this is all about imperial power and like plays on the world stage and historical oppression, etc.
So, no, no, no, clearly, that can't be the answer.
It's just that they're Jews, you see.
And so, you have to understand that to make any sense about where this conversation goes.
So, I'm going to hit play again.
Well, you wish they do.
No, no, no.
You wish they do.
I don't, well, I think of people.
How many MAGA people have never come around to our ideas despite everything that's happening to them?
Do you think J6 people are like, how many J6 people do you think got thrown in jail that are like, well, Trump's going to save me?
Of course, this was recorded before.
Yeah, we'll let them all out.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah, significantly before.
This is like summer 2024.
So I don't know.
You have any commentary so far, or shall we keep going?
Only to point out that the single belief that was most common, this was actually established in a survey or I can't remember exactly what it was, but I remember it was established empirically.
The belief that was most commonly shared by people involved in the January 6th riots was belief in the great replacement, which I know isn't quite the same thing as the white genocide conspiracy theory.
It's kind of like a it's not just a watered down version.
It is it is actually different in its actual terms, as you've often pointed out to me, but it is nonetheless, it is a far-right anti-Semitic conspiracy.
Yes, absolutely, absolutely, yes.
Yeah, it's a yeah, they uh this is not the place necessarily to go through that, but you know, we've discussed it many times before.
If people want to, if I can, we can, I could easily do an episode on that, believe me.
That would be, that would be, I could, I could, I could, I could do that extemporaneously at this point, the differences between that, but uh, that was a very good note.
I agree.
No, fair enough, but awareness of Jewish power and malignant influence in the world is not a uniquely right-wing or like even necessarily white thing.
No, it's, it's, it's, it's a uniquely clear-minded thing, and these people, their brain is, it's filled with Xanax, pornography, and big mouth.
Okay.
You know, the reference, you know, the big mouth reference.
I don't know what that is.
No, big mouth.
I may still be running.
I'm not sure.
It was, it's a Netflix show.
I think created by our Nick Kroll is involved.
The show is actually, it's kind of a, it's kind of a metaphor for sex work.
Um, and it's about, it's a comedy show about like these like mystical beings who do engage in sex work.
They're like, it's like representations of people's sexual desires.
And there are a lot of jokes about like teenagers with jerking off in the socks and that sort of thing.
Okay.
And so, and, you know, a lot of the creators are themselves Jewish, as a lot of people who work in Hollywood are Jewish, you know.
And this was this was in this era, in this time period, this is, this became just a, a one-word reference to the depravity of this Hollywood is that big mouth is this like thing.
And it's like, oh, it's portraying underage sex.
And it's just, it's just child pornography and all that sort of thing.
So it's like this, it becomes this synecdoche for everything wrong in Hollywood, basically.
Okay, I got you.
Sorry.
I didn't realize I was going to have to explain that until that particular segment.
I'm like, oh, shit.
Okay.
Here we go.
Anyway, these people aren't going to get it.
Now, you can't get you.
If you, if you, if you don't, you'll hear the point that I'm going to make.
It's the other people that are on the fence will see this.
That's where you're going to see the most positive change.
Okay.
Because these college people, they live the most sheltered life.
Everyone they're surrounded by.
They're surrounded by either communist college professors or students that want to kiss up to communist college professors.
Yeah.
The children of the elite who go to Columbia University are definitely steeped in Marxist principles.
They're just indoctrinated into communism.
Into Leninism.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
That's what's happening on these major universities.
But, you know, it's like, you know, those kids, those college kids, they are unreachable, man.
They are just indoctrinated with communism.
Actually, they're indoctrinated with knowledge about the world because they're going to college and they're getting a really world-class education and they understand things about systematic oppression and imperialism, et cetera.
Not all of them, but certainly the ones protesting.
It's not because they hate Jews, it's because they actually know the truth and they oppose it correctly, you know, for not your reasons.
They're being indoctrinated into far-left ideology by the institution that they're protesting against because it supports a far-right state.
Okay.
Yes, yes.
It's like you don't realize you're really just against Jews.
You just need to talk about Jews more.
Oh, God.
I was, man.
Anyway.
Yeah, you see, the trouble with that is, no, they're not.
That's the whole point.
Exactly.
Exactly.
The reason they don't realize that is because it's not true.
That would be why.
It's not because the Jews have put like a veil upon their eyes and they just can't see the guy with the big hook nose standing in the corner with the, you know, pulling the strings.
You know, it's, yeah, it's very silly.
But these people are absolutely 100% serious.
This is a 100% serious conversation.
You can't get the college kids.
They're too far gone.
You can get the people on the fence who maybe are anti-Semitic like us, but they're not like indoctrinated like these college kids.
So maybe the college kids can, you know, it's, it's so silly.
It's so stupid.
The communist college professors.
So they live completely detached from reality, but normal people see this and they're like, boy, things sure aren't going great today.
And you see these people going, okay, is real war crimes.
And they're like, wait a minute, these guys just, they locked themselves in a library and all the cops came in, but my business got burned down by a bunch of blacks that were that were just breaking things and stealing stuff.
And then the cops took a knee.
Hold on.
How come you?
Okay.
I'm going to elucidate this.
I think you get it, but I'm going to elucidate it for the audience.
So that's okay.
What he's saying there is that these college kids had consequences for protesting Columbia because Columbia is run by Jews.
Whereas back in the George Floyd era, shopkeepers whose buildings were burned down by Antifa or BLM or whatever, the people who did those crimes did not suffer repercussions because the Jews who secretly run or overtly run the world didn't really care about those small business owners because they were white, because there were white people who owned small businesses that were being destroyed.
But they do care about the Jews in control of Columbia University.
So that's why these college kids are getting the brunt of the state.
Whereas the BLM writers, the rioters, did not.
That's the logic that you have.
That's the tortured logic here.
All right.
Just to clarify that.
I see.
Yeah.
Okay.
Now there's an anti-Semitism bill.
Who's in charge here?
Those are the people.
Because, you know, because you get a lot of people that are like, oh, I'm a moderate.
And, you know, maybe they're going to say, like, well, I wish we had more workers' rights, but I also wish you would do something about immigration.
Those are the people that I think you're going to pick up.
But if you think you're going to make friends with a leftist, oh, like, oh, they don't have to know about Jewish power.
Okay.
They don't.
Those people, they just see white person.
Because I found a really funny tweet and it said that these people aren't anti-Jewish.
They're anti-Israel because anyone can be Jewish.
He finds that.
He finds that the logic of the tweet is you're not anti-Semitic, you're anti-Israel because people can convert to Judaism.
Judaism is a religion.
But no, he says, no, Judaism is a race.
Judaism is a fundamental fact about the way that people are.
And people, whether they practice Judaism, the religion or not, people who are Jewish ethnically, by definition, act in ways that are Jewish.
And those Jewish ways are actively opposed to our white ways, our Aryan ways.
They are coming to subvert us.
They're coming to destroy us.
And that's the logic.
That's what these stupid college kids don't understand is that the Jews are just going to ask Jewishly.
It's just a fundamental fact about it.
So that's the logic there.
Again, I hate to have to elucidate that.
This is really disgusting stuff.
But you can't understand that unless you understand the background here.
Then the way I started to understand it originally was I had to figure out what the fuck are these people talking about?
What are the premises here?
What do you have to believe in order to make this make sense?
Oh, racism.
That's the logic of racism.
Yes, I get it.
Anyway.
And Rolo there can't understand.
He doesn't understand.
He's like, because anybody can be Jewish, but no, not anybody can be Jewish.
And that's what he's going to continue on here.
And that was someone that was defending Jews.
I don't like the Israeli government, but anyone can be a Jewish people.
Yeah, potential Jewish converts.
Well, they will often feature these.
They will often feature these, you know, oh, we have Jews on our side.
Yeah, we, you know, we have Jews that are against what's going on over there and so forth.
Yeah.
And there's, there are plenty of Sam Harris's or Steven Spielberg.
I have no idea what the point he's trying to make with Sam Harris.
Steven Spielberg.
Like Sam Harris is a defender.
Like Sam Harris, there's been virtually no person in the English-speaking world who has been more virulent against the people of Gaza than Sam Harris.
This is, you know, Steven Spielberg is kind of, I looked it up.
He's kind of wishy-washy on this stuff.
Like he's, you know, yeah, I don't know.
Like certainly, he's just naming famous Jewish people.
I mean, he's going to get to one that's kind of relevant here in a second, but it's like Sam Harris and Steven Spielberg.
What logic are you reaching for here?
Even I don't quite get that one.
So, you know, he's just, he's assuming viewpoints that he, you know, it seems obvious to him that they have, I expect.
Yeah, I would assume that I would assume that Rolo has never like listened to any bit of what Sam Harris was having to say about this topic.
No.
Which was, you know, we haven't bombed Gaza enough, which kind of where Sam Harris was.
You know, every single dead Gazan is on the, is on the heads of Hamas.
Anything that Israel does is good as long as it is meant to destroy Hamas.
You know, that's, that's the, that's the long and the short of it.
Yeah.
This is like a Sam Harris episode.
But yeah, Rolo does not understand.
Yeah, very educated young man.
He knows all about the Jews.
And so that's all you need to know.
You don't need to know anything about what Sam Harris actually says it does because all you need to know is he's one of those hook-nosed people.
That's it.
Period.
This is so tiring.
Anyway, this clip is about over.
So let's finish it.
All right.
Pick your celebrity Jew that they'll glob on to.
Who is the one guy, the Chomsky, like Noam Chomsky?
Well, finally, you found one.
You found one that might actually make your point.
Look at that.
Yeah.
You hit one eventually.
Just name famous Jewish people.
That's all you have to do.
Yeah.
They'll always pull these people out, but they do not think that there is a difference between a white and a Jew.
And that's, I think that is the core fundamental principle in understanding Jewish power is knowing that they are a race that acts in their own interest.
Totally just.
And these people do not understand that.
Again, the reason that they don't understand it is that it's not true.
It's because, well, it turns out that people on, you know, people of Jewish ethnicity and of Jewish faith actually do stand on both sides and on all sides of this issue.
Well, they only do that to subvert the real ones.
They're really all in favor of Israel.
They're just pretending not to be, or they're just deluded or what it's like.
What you don't understand is that Jews all think alike.
I mean, people will tell you that it's not true, and they will bring out examples of Jews who disagree with what I think Jews believe, like this guy and this guy and this guy and this guy.
Like 30% of the population.
It holds true in every case, except for all the exceptions.
Yeah, except for all the exceptions.
Exactly.
Yeah.
But the idea that like Jews all act as almost as one individual organism, you almost have to believe that for these guys.
Like that is almost just cliche for the way these guys talk about it.
It's almost like they're not really talking about the people out here in the real world we call Jewish, but they're talking instead about some kind of mythical, you know, monstrous, globular alien monstrosity, like, you know, some sort of corporate entity like the Borg that they've just fantasized in their own heads and assigned to Jewish people.
Almost.
Yeah.
You can be, you can be confused for that.
Anyway, okay.
All right.
That's the end of that clip.
Guess what?
We're going to be talking a lot more about Jews, you know, unfortunately.
Oh, yeah.
And I do want to make it clear, just for any new listeners, I don't believe a word.
I don't think it, I don't think there's any unclarity here and anything unclear here.
I do not believe a word of this.
I'm explaining it so that you can understand it, so that you can know how nonsense this is and how bad this stuff is in places where you don't look.
You know, like that's all I'm saying here.
So we may have newer listeners who are not familiar with the way we do this content, but yeah, I just want to be absolutely clear.
I don't think anybody that's familiar with this show could be confused about where we stand, but these things do sometimes need to be repeated just for the sake of doing so.
Yeah.
Okay.
We have actually three clips from episode 186, which is one episode after the one we just listened to.
This one is very short.
This one is about the two-hour mark of episode 186.
I'm just going to play it and we'll, I decided to include all three.
This one is a little bit less essential, but it is more rollo.
You just get a little more rollo here.
Politicians, both parties, with very few exceptions, are owned hook and sinker, bought and paid for agents of Jews in Israel.
And I don't care about your, well, Jews are different.
Some are Zionists.
Some are anti-Zionists.
Don't care.
Yep.
Almost could have been just the tag to that last clip.
It almost could have been right there just in the same.
They talk about this shit in essentially.
It's truly bizarre.
That was almost my cold open until I found the other one.
So just let you know.
Um, I like the other one better, but that was almost the cold open.
Now we get it, and that one was a Gebert, Sam, and uh, Rolo at the end there.
But this one is a lot more directly Rolo focused.
Rolo is the is again the most outspoken one, and so he's the easiest to clip.
But all these guys, even though Rolo says the things that are the most extreme, he has a he's a friend of the, they all agree with this stuff.
I mean, they agree, they disagree on tactics, they disagree on con, you know, some of the some of the fine details, but like they're all this is all part of the same like political project, they're all working towards the same goal, and they're all like believing it's you know, a believing in the kind of fundamental way of achieving that goal.
And so, I don't want to, you know, we're not letting any of the other guys off the hook.
Rolo is just the easiest one to clip.
So, all right, here we go.
Yeah, they're not, they're not, they don't understand what Jews are.
Jews to them, it's a type of it's an older Christian religion where they're just as imperialist as all white people, and they think Israel is doing the bidding of white Republicans in America.
You, if you think that, I mean, no, actually, but you know, I think it's a little more complicated than that, Darlo.
Um, you know, that those people you can find common ground.
You have been listening to people that are terminally online that have never had any real interaction with them for at least 10 years, right?
These people are insane, they are so dangerous.
He's talking about you and me, he's talking about you and me here.
You understand that, right?
He's talking about like he's talking about like people within the bubble of this kind of right-wing racistosphere, right?
And he's slightly outside of it.
He sees himself as like, no, I interact with communists, I interact with leftists and liberals.
Those are all the same term for a person like Rolo.
Yeah, same thing, you know, it's all the same thing, you know, like Hillary Clinton and uh Noam Chomsky and you know, Vladimir Delenin are practically it's like one and the same person, you know.
You know, it's very silly, they are indistinguishable from BLM, they do all think it's the same thing.
Would you go to a BLM riot and try to find common ground?
Well, of course not.
These are the exact same people, and they are holding up the exact same cause: brown, good, white, bad.
It's the same thing.
I think we should have an IDSG t-shirt: brown, good, white, bad.
Because that's certainly what I believe.
That's certainly, yeah, you know, Scott.
This, I, I don't, I, I mean, I do not want to like call this guy out like individually.
This is he's being really blunt about this.
This is like a fundamental thing that, like, all of these like white nationalist types in this internet spaces believe about liberals, about leftists, about you know, anybody that's like left of center.
It's basically that if a white person did it in the past or is doing it in the present, it's bad and it must be stopped.
Anything that a brown person does is automatically valorous and great, et cetera, et cetera.
And that's how they see the world.
They just see it through that lens.
Yeah, this is the logic of a child having a tantrum.
This is what children do.
If you have, you know, like two brothers, right?
Two little kids and they're brothers, and one of them does something, he wants a cookie and he's not supposed to have it, and he steals it, and you catch him doing it and you punish him.
He has a tantrum and he screams, You always punish me, everything I do is always wrong, and you let him get away with stuff.
That's exactly what this is.
It's just transposed onto this mythical hallucinatory.
This imaginary geopolitics.
Yes, exactly.
Exactly.
Brown good, white, bad.
I heard that originally.
I'm like, all right, that's going in the show.
I found my clip.
All right.
All right.
Moving on.
This is the same episode.
It's seven minutes later.
They're just chatting at this point.
idle chit chat.
They record late in the evenings and they just, you know, you're going to open a beer and he records in his backyard.
He has this little outdoor gazebo or whatever.
And he'll grab him at the lake, the most disgusting like mackerel beer.
It's a drink what you like.
Still, I just, I just, it's one of those things, you know, you grab a middle light.
Like that's your beer of choice.
And you're, you're supposed to be a man of like, you're supposed to be a man of like acumen and good taste.
You know, good, good on you, Aryan race, you know.
In the middle of all this, Daniel, Daniel's inner beer nerd can't help but come out and poke his head.
I mean, I will give Sam some credit.
He, um, he, I, I, he lives near Three Floyds in northern Indiana, and he uh praises their beers quite regularly.
And so Sam has Sam has a good beer taste.
Three floods has gone downhill in the last 10 years, but they used to be a world-class brewery.
So, you know, Sam, your politics are disgusting.
I agree with you on beer.
You're good.
Okay.
But anyway, the things that I know about these people, you know, it's just like, you know, I got, I think I know what every single person who drinks in the alt-right, I think I know their freak of choice.
I didn't even think about that until just now.
I really do.
I've heard, oh, God.
Okay.
We, man, that could be an episode.
Drinks of the far right.
Yeah.
He no longer lives in DC in Virginia.
He was an up and comer for a while.
When he got shit can, when they found out he was a Nazi, he moved to somewhere in West Virginia.
I think he has been doxxed, but I don't know the, I don't know the location.
I'm not, that's not what I'm here to discuss, but he is somewhere in West Virginia and he has like some land out there.
So he's going to the local Walmart and buying some stuff and noticing there are brown people in the Walmart and they behave in certain ways.
Yeah.
I was checking out a Walmart today.
Overwhelmingly white area.
Yeah, you still see some diversity dripping in here or there.
Strange faces, Spanish language, obese, BMI obese, not like spilling out of her shorts, but fat and like all the stretchy stuff, probably half Indio, half Spanish, with a legitimately cute, well-behaved girl in the cart.
And she's got.
And he has to call out, oh, the little girl.
Like, she's a sweet little girl.
She's just a little girl.
I mean, she's mixed race.
She's disgusting.
But I mean, she was admittedly cute because this is the dad podcast and they just love little children.
It's like, you know, it's like you're literally talking about this woman, this girl's mother as this like disgusting half, half breed, this half human.
And then like, oh, but the little girl, she was cute.
Yeah, I don't know.
The way these people compartmentalize is just, it's remarkable, you know.
That is such a cliche.
That is such a cliche, though.
That's in Mississippi Burning.
There's a bit where the Brad Duriff character does that in that movie.
I've tried to block as much of that movie out of my mind as possible.
I believe you.
Her gigantic iPhone Max on the like self-checkout counter, speaking very loudly in Spanish.
And I'm I just love the racist way that these guys describe Spanish.
It's just the rah, rah, raw.
That's all you got out of that.
Looking at the like Walmart people who like, you know, police the self-checkout line and they're like rolling their eyes and they want to like chimp out.
And then.
Oh, chimp out there.
That is a classic alt-right slur.
It's, it's one of those, you know, said when black people get mad, they, they don't take their anger out in like constructive ways.
They just destroy things.
That's what chimp out means in that context.
Well, of course, black people.
It normally meant black people, but I think it's extended to people who aren't white, but it was definitely originally an African-American thing or a black people thing, because they are ultimately chimpanzees.
That's where the term comes from.
All sorts of racist artwork that I saw back in the 2015, 2016, 2017 era to exactly that veil.
But just describing the term for those who might not know it.
She checks out and she leaves the scanner right on the table.
And the daughter says, Mama, Mama, you know, and she's pointing to it.
And then the mom like sees, oh, I left the scanner, the handheld.
Okay.
I'm going to admit to you at this point, I haven't shopped at a Walmart in a while.
I have local stores that I shop from.
It's not that I'm throwing myself above Walmart, but I actually worked for a Walmart for a while back in 99.
So, you know, I don't know what sin this woman is supposed to have committed.
Is it that she didn't put the little scan held scanner thing in its little cradle and she just left it?
Sounds like it.
Yeah.
Like, that's, that's the great sin that we're elucidating for a minute and a half on this dominant podcast.
Like, that's the thing.
From this, we can deduce ontological truths about the entirety of human history as well.
Yeah.
I mean, she's overweight.
She speaks Spanish.
She's mixed race.
Not even, not any of them are white, right?
You know, clearly.
She's got a cute little kid.
So she's reproducing.
And that kid's going to grow to be just like her mom.
And she's committing minor social faux pas.
And the other people, the people working at the Walmart who are mostly presumably not white in this story because he used the racist term are somehow beholden to this woman, to this woman.
Yeah, that's the, that's the picture he's trying to paint, right?
You know, scanner on the thing, and she just waves it off.
She's like, it's not, I forget what she said, not a.
You notice he was trying to go right for that racist Spanish there.
He stopped himself.
I don't know why he stopped.
I think he just thought it was too annoying.
Like, it's too obvious to do that, you know, to do that kind of thing.
When we do Megan Kelly, we're going to talk about the way that she uses her racist Spanish accent.
We will definitely be doing that.
But I hear Governor, one step better than Megan Kelly.
Can you believe it?
Just in that moment.
Of course, he's worse, but you know.
Doesn't matter.
But she was just like her daughter pointed out that her mother had just committed a minor offense or left the scanner on the thing.
And the mom was just like, yeah, and continued on with her.
They bleep.
They bleeped.
He bleeped the word fuck there.
He bleeped out.
You wouldn't want to leave in anything offensive, would you?
They bleep, they bleep the swear words, except for one, which they allow to stand.
We're going to figure out what that one is shortly.
Okay.
Loud blabbering in pig Latin.
And I is.
In pig Latin.
It's Spanish.
It's Spanish.
The language is thousands of years old.
I mean, it's, it's Latin.
It's like, it doesn't get more European than fucking Spanish.
I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Expand the racism, Ray.
I mean, I don't know.
Of course, they see like the Castilians of Spain as being like a higher people than these mixed race, like half breeds of Central and South America.
Those are two different, two entirely different kinds of people, you know, but still it's like, I don't know.
It's just, I just, I find it remarkable.
Pig Latin or whatever.
She speaks Spanish.
You know, she's speaking Spanish.
You accidentally almost spoke a little Spanish yourself.
You probably speak a little bit of it because you're an American.
You probably know a few sentences of Spanish.
It's just like, goddamn, if that's a little microcosm of everything that's happened to this country over the past seven years.
Yeah.
Now, granted, you know, there's poorly behaved white people too, but we, but like, there are people just way different.
Oh, sure.
And the majority white country perpetrators are going to be white.
So what the fuck are we even talking about?
I mean, nothing happened.
Perpetrators.
Perpetrators of what?
Nothing happened.
Literally.
Slightly social behavior, slightly as like.
Nothing happened in that.
Look, I used to work in a supermarket.
People would take their trolleys and leave them in the car park.
It's just something people do.
They're busy.
They've got to be somewhere.
They've got 14 things to do.
They've got a kid that they've got to look after.
Especially a small, adorable young child who apparently even different degrees needed his mom's attention or needed her mom's attention.
I mean, you know, come on.
This is literally nothing happened in that.
A woman went shopping.
That's your story.
And I just love this thing of like, you know, when Sam comes in there, it's like, yeah, but the percentages are way different.
It's like, you know what?
Even if you like, even if you said, like, this is slightly non-social behavior, that woman is frazzled.
She's got a lot to do.
She's overweight.
You know what causes all those problems?
You know what's a root indicator?
It's poverty.
And poverty, despite what these people believe, does not come about because your race is just fundamentally bad at making money.
It comes about because poverty is systemic and structural, you know.
And if we did have an all-white country, as these people want, then you would be complaining about the white trash doing the exact same fucking thing.
I promise you.
I don't feel comfortable speculating about this poor woman in specific.
No, no, no, no.
I'm assuming all the things that he said were true.
We're assuming that this is a true story.
Exactly.
It's all filtered through his perceptions, which are clearly not even beginning to be anywhere near trustworthy.
But look, if this woman was half Indio or whatever you want to put it, you know, and she has problems or whatever because she lives in poverty, you can trace all of that, literally her existence as that ethnicity.
And the fact that people of that extraction still live disproportionately in poverty, you can trace all of that right back to European imperialism in the quote unquote new world.
All of it.
No, no, Jack, you're wrong.
It's just you, you and I, we have the wool.
The Jews have fooled us.
It's really just, it's just Jews.
I hate even, you know, like.
The Jews, the Jews famously did really well in Spain at the time of the empire.
Yes, absolutely.
Yes, yes.
Well, that was, that was one of the 109, don't you understand?
That was what that was one of the, that was one of the good times.
Okay.
So we're off of that episode now.
We're on to something a little bit, oh, God, even more convoluted.
Because this is a response.
A lot of what they do is they do like infighting.
They do like, they discuss like movement infighting a lot and kind of different ways that people are talking about issues.
And keep in mind, so we're going to be, this is Gerbert Khan talking about certain things that Mike Enoch over at The Right Stuff had been doing at the time.
So this is again 2024.
And ever since the atrocities in Gaza, Enoch has been on a, he is 100% all, you know, the Jews are going to get genocide.
You know, it's, it's, it's all one message all the time, you know, and not in the like structural way that you and I would believe it, but because they are Jews, they just want to massacre the Palestinians.
And so he has put himself on the side of the Palestinians.
He is like, no, I support Palestine because it fucks the Jews.
That's, that's as far as it goes for him.
And so it's, and so he's propagandizing to that effect in like white nationalist bases with white nationalists, a lot of them don't like Palestinians because they're not white, you know, or because they're perceived as being not white, white as a social, et cetera, et cetera.
But yeah, anyway, Enoch is like, anything that hurts Jews is good.
The other guys are like, oh, no, no, not so fast.
Not so fast.
We want to hurt the Jews, but I'm not aligned with no brown person, you know, in order to do it.
And so this is that, that's the background I need for this next.
Where, where he's, when he says, when Fashcroft said like, oh, what about calling white people?
Fashcroft is one of the people in the TRS forums.
Not a.
He's a fairly prominent person, but he's not a podcaster, so I don't think he wrote the podcast anyway.
Um people, whiteoids Mike goes ha ha, that was a joke.
Whiteoids is a thing and whiteoids and rightoids and christoids, etc.
These are um terms that terrorist uses to describe the kind of grug members of like, like mega world who don't understand that the Jews are in charge of everything.
Who are you support?
You know white nationalism, or support you know crucial fascism, but they're not, like Jew, focused enough because they don't really see the reality that this is the Jews and I keep on that rollo.
And these guys believe everything that Mike believes, or everything that you know believes about the Jews, are a little more tactical about who they're going to support and who they're not.
No no, no.
If I say coach is a, you might say okay well, that was a joke.
But if I say it on my show every time, like wow, coach said this coach is such a, at a certain point you're back.
I don't think he's joking, I think he genuinely doesn't like me.
So when you call white people, whiteoids and christoids and then he's just saying like yeah, I mean we should just support them, that's not what you're saying, you're telling people that if they're not Pro-Palestinian up front, they are Pro-Israel.
That is crap, that is bullshit, that is dishonest crap, and you know it.
You can be anti-both, it's not it.
It's not like one or the other like yeah okay, I like that my enemy is being bogged down with something else, but that doesn't mean I have to like these people that hold up a flag and beat an old white guy to death.
Shut up yeah well, well.
So hey, there are a couple of uh slurs there.
I think Jack's going to uh bleat those out for us.
Those were the uh six letter f word that is not the swear word that I was referring to that they explicitly allow in the podcast, although that one does also have two g's.
Can you guess what it is?
Yet i'm starting to get that.
Yeah yeah, you might get the inkling of where i'm going here.
I highly doubt that Mike Enoch loves the Palestinians.
No no no, he.
He is very well known.
If you, if you read between the lines, and even the things that, like people have, even things that, like a Jesse Dunston, spin on on terrorists, if you, if you pay attention to these guys, a lot of this stuff is, it is a calculated pose he does.
He, he takes rhetorical positions specifically to move people in his direction, positions that he does not himself hold.
That's something that happens all the time.
That was part of the reason that the National Justice Party collapsed is because Enoch was trying to hold to a certain ideological purity and he was trying to force people into as a good fascist would.
He's trying to make people, you know, push the propaganda that he wants to push because he's the big guy on top.
Um, it turns out these fascists really don't like fascism when they're the ones on top.
It's continuing throughout that thing.
Mike did make little points that I thought were okay, but it misses the main point.
Let's say that that government over there in Israel was so destabilized by Iran bombing it and other neighboring countries sending soldiers over the border, and they they did lose control over there.
Maybe that's like a five percent possibility of what's going on yeah, or 10, but 90, the.
But let's just say it's a, it is a small 10 possibility.
How do you, how do you think the Jews in this country will React to people like us if they lose control of the command and control on the ground of that country?
So, Sam is going like, no, Mike's got it all wrong.
I mean, if the Jews, if the Palestinians take control of Israel, the Jews over here are just going to take it out on us.
So, what good is it to me if the Palestinians take control?
A 10% probability that the Palestinians are just going to win this war, or the Iranians are going to come in, or whatever, you know, whatever destabilizing force they're believing.
You know, there's probably like a convoluted, you know, he said and she said backstory.
That's good.
Well, never she said, it's always a he said, there are no women, there's no women in Nazi land.
We'll get there.
We'll get there.
I promise you.
It is going to be like times 100.
Okay.
They are going to become so, you know, anyone, just like in England, you put a little Facebook post with something that disagrees, they'll be hunting you down.
So in, you know, in no way does them losing control there amount to something good here, nor does, and if the Palestinians are destroyed, they just want to send them here.
So it's like a lose-lose for us, whatever's going to happen there.
Yeah, they're just going to export the Palestinians, you know, and they're just gross people.
We can't support those people.
They're just as gross as the Jews, just less in charge.
We are 17 levels deep in utter delusion at this point.
Yes.
It amounts to, do you, you know, do you realize that barring a very, very lucky eventuality, both sets of these people are just going to continue, blatantly continue existing?
That's unacceptable.
Yes.
Well, you know, that's where you get the worldwide global extermination, you know.
And that was the GOD LeRay thing, you know, that we kind of started this podcast with on some level.
Yeah.
Gio De LeRay was one of the original co-hosts of Full House.
He isn't a dad, but he was talking about being an uncle and all that sort of thing.
And I just didn't have, I just didn't have any way to go through Geo De LeRae clips for this.
Well, there's some more George De La Ray sometime, but not today.
All right, we're kind of off that particular topic.
This is there.
We're just kind of exploring various things that Gerbert has said over the course of the years.
This is what time you met Tim Poole.
And, you know, oh, I don't know who to feel sorry for.
This is interesting.
I think this is interesting.
This would have been probably in like 2015, somewhere in that era.
It would have been when he says it's when Poole was working for Vice.
So maybe even earlier than that, but this would have been like when Gerbert was an up and comer in the State Department, he would have like hobdopped with journalists, etc.
He would have had occasion to sit down and talk to Tim Poole.
He does, well, he does say it's all the Jews.
So this would have been later in Gerbert's life, at least 2015, when he started to radicalize.
At least self-esteem started to radicalize at that point.
So, and I kind of believe that.
I think that's probably true.
Anyway, this is his story.
We may die in or we may not.
I don't think this is unfair or ungentlemanly, but I met Tim Poole at a thing where we were able to have a civil, sober conversation.
And I sat up straight because he is somebody.
Even, you know, I originally didn't like him because he was a vice journalist with the stupid beanie.
And then I like pro-skateboarder.
I don't care about that at all.
He got a little rollover.
He's a pro-skateboarder.
That's a cool thing, right?
God found him more interesting as somebody who maybe was a principled liberal.
And we've seen this, of course.
That might be the stupidest thing I've heard so far.
That's that is true.
Although Tim Poole at that time was still like really trying to pull that grift real hard, you know.
Yeah, I was going to say this is early days.
He was a little bit more respectable in these days.
So, you know, this is, this is kind of right around the time he started hanging around with like Richard Spencer and shit, you know, actually not like Millennial Madden, all those guys, you know, anyway.
I was moving right in response to insanities.
And at a certain, I forget what we were talking about specifically, but a certain, and I was like, and you know, you know, why that is, of course, right?
He's like, no, I don't why.
I was like, and it was because it's the Jews.
That's a terrible paraphrase.
And he, he sort of like chuckled.
And then that was basically the end of the conversation and he moved on.
I was a little bit more savvy about that.
There was more to it than that.
But as soon as I said that J word, it basically, that was the MK Ultra conversation.
And he didn't act like, but I think he knew.
And I think he was like, okay, I prefer not to engage with one of the guys with the sunglasses from They Live.
Honestly.
Again, with the 80s movie reference, he's kind of love it, you know?
He is consistent on that.
What he's trying to lay down is like, well, Tim Poole knows about the Jews, but he's, you know, he's, he's feeding from the teat.
He's, he's, he's working in the media and he knows what you can't talk about.
Yeah.
I think Tim Pool is probably interested.
I mean, I, it's hard to know what Tim Poole actually believes.
I, you know, I really, I know, I know what he thinks will make him money.
And that is to being this like reactionary dipshit who always shits on the left, who always pretends the right is not as far right as it is, pretends to be a very like a disaffected liberal and who never ever says a single word about Jews.
That that's the thing that's going to do that's going to, you say Jews in certain, certain tones of voice.
People's ears perk up and he gets your sit canceled.
He can be as racist as he wants to be about other types of people, but he can't talk about Jews.
Hey, since since we're doing 80s movies references, if there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say.
Yes, absolutely.
Oh, but that's a black man saying that.
I don't know if it's going to be very clever, though.
God, Ghostbusters, man.
What?
Oh, man.
I'm now trying to think of what the Nazis would think about Ghostbusters.
Let's not go there.
All right.
We're right into the home stretch.
I hope.
All right.
This will be Sam talking about one of his favorite holidays.
This was just from a few weeks ago.
It's from episode 201.
Well, it was from probably from last November, so a year ago.
So they've only done like a handful of episodes in the last in the last year.
Not that I have any way to complain, but they definitely decreased their production, which makes it easier for me.
I just listen to it every month instead of every week.
But this is Sam talking about how he gets pleasure from Thanksgiving.
So it's still a favorite thing.
He likes to watch the parades, you see.
And even though it was raining, I actually enjoyed it.
And I got to say, the marching bands come coming by, they were all white.
The New York City parade was whiter and it was actually better than the Chicago parade, which I usually would say it the opposite way.
But, you know, because what is missing is that in the New York parade, they stop in front of the review stand and they have some kind of like Broadway number where they lip sync to some song or whatever.
And there it is.
Not bleeps.
But the Chicago one, it was like I said, I would rather see, even, even though, yeah, on the south side, it's all nigger high schools.
You hit not bleeps twice.
Two more times.
It was right there.
Not bleeps.
The original.
Not bleeped in the original.
People hearing it.
You'll hear the bleeped version, but Jack is hearing the real one.
So I'm verifying, Jack.
I am playing the real one, right?
Listeners, the bleeps you are hearing were added by me.
Yes, by them.
With their nigger bands.
Fine, but I would rather see that than all these Chinese groups.
I don't understand what the connection is.
Can't we have like local thing, can't discriminate if they want to put their little stupid church or you know temple on a float, you gotta say yes yeah, it's like.
Well, the black people are one thing I can't, but the Chinese?
Why are the Chinese celebrating Thanksgiving like?
This is such, this is such old fart, this is such.
That is that is real.
I mean, Sam really gives that old fart vibes.
He really gives old fart vibes like a lot.
Oh, I went, I went down the shop, talked to this, got black bloke behind the counter, black fella.
And I came out again and I was talking to this traffic warden, Chinese fella, it's such old fart crap.
I think that one was from the Subcontinent or something.
I couldn't tell.
So that was just a little, just a little taste of you know, I was, I was sort of instinctively, I was starting to do an impression of one of my grandfathers, but then I realized if I was going to make it authentic, I was going to have to say things I didn't want to say.
Yeah that's, that's probably true.
You know, I could uh, we can.
Yeah, I think you and I both have similar family members that we could probably uh imitate.
But yeah, that's just a little moment.
Just, you know, just say i'm talking about the joys of Thanksgiving like, and it's just, and again, it's like it's, it's this is like horrifying racism.
This is like this baked into the cake.
It's just the, the strychnine, is baked into this like, but the cake itself it looks lovely from the outside.
It's like oh, we should talk about these like heartwarming traditions of like the, the parades, and even if the, the parade's got some more brown skin, then maybe I like it, but still like I could still get some joy out of it.
And then it's just, he just drops it over like, but the Chinese, why not the Chinese?
You know, my god, we've had we've had only two, but I mean, from what you've played me, we've had two basic types of discussion.
One of them is just internal to the movement, sort of arguing which amounts to somebody else on another podcast wasn't as racist as I think they should have been and they were racist in the wrong way.
That's the other racist, yeah.
And the other type is just, I went out into the world and did some normal things in the, in the street, or you know, things happened in the world and there were people involved who weren't white and they were there existing.
At me, that seems to be the only content here.
Yeah, I mean that's, that's a lot of it.
Yeah, and I did like again, there's a lot of the like the, the you know, the handyman stuff or the you know, there's a lot of that kind of stuff too, but it's, like again, largely unobjection, just kind of just I don't know.
I'm trying to give you a sense of like what these people, how these people talk to each other, what the content of this like so much of it is, like it's.
You have to be deep into this, into this life.
You have to believe as they do to even begin to approach this podcast.
Because if you just heard this as a normal part, as like a person down the street, even Maga Republican, this is this, is internal arguments, this is like this is, this is deep cut material is kind of what i'm getting to.
But they pitch it as if like well, we're just a bunch of dads doing dad stuff and we just have to be racist about it, you know um, but no they're, they're deeply invested in this, like in this fundamentally weird political project.
Um anyway, that's what i'm trying to demonstrate to you.
Anyway, nice clip.
Um, this is actually a little bit of a promo for another thing I did.
I appeared on Half The Answer talking about the Tucker Carlson Nick Fuentes interview.
Um, that episode has not been released yet.
I don't know if it will be released before this one is, but it was a fun conversation.
I'm looking forward to listening to it.
We will post a link to it and anyway, that was a fun conversation.
Uh, that's part of the reason we didn't do it over here was because I did it over there.
Um, I don't know that there's enough material for me to cover.
Anyway, if people want to hear more then I can do it, but I want you to listen to the Half The Answer episode first.
Um anyway, this is.
This is Gerbert Coach Fenstock his opinion of this interview.
Okay yeah, fair enough.
Yeah yeah, I I unleashed about a two-minute.
I never leave voicemails in the group chat, but I just I was driving, I was able to con.
He listened to the Tucker Carlson Nick Fuentes conversation and he was so mad about it.
He like unloaded in the group chat in a voicemail, that's, concentrate and listen carefully from the beginning straight through to the end, and I just let off like a lot of f-bombs and like this.
This was total trash on both ends.
Um the overall, I thought that Tucker sounded more like an agent of the state, like a deliberate de-radicalization agent or officer, than I had heard.
Did you listen or watch any of that?
Tucker Carlson, Nick Funtes interview, jack.
No, a whole like the bulk of it is Nick Fuentes not quite going quite as anti-semitic as I think he would normally like in his space and then Tucker Carlson doing something like, well yeah, but you don't hate all Jews, right?
I mean, you're like, you know and certainly you know you can be Anti-israel and not Anti-semitic.
That's, that's a.
It's two hours of that that's.
That's effectively what that conversation was.
The goal was to try out Nick Fuentes as being the new Charlie Kirk.
I don't think that's going to happen, but the the goal was a to take some of Nick Funtes' audience and to bring him into the fold a little bit.
See if he's ready for prime time, if he can take his 5 million follower account over on Rumble AND COZY TV, which is enormous that's, that's as big as any of these guys have.
Can he take that audience and can it?
Can, it could be, can it be put into more like the Maga right style or the more the traditional media style.
So it's a tryout.
It's, and it's Tucker Carlson, absolutely he's.
He's throwing balls right over the plate.
He's giving them easy, easy answers.
He's he's, he.
No challenging questions whatsoever.
This is the most comfy interview I can imagine having with Nick Funtes.
It is just if, without actively agreeing with every single, he's trying to soften up the rough edges of Nick Funtes.
That's, that's the goal of this thing.
That's what, that's what this interview was.
That's the content and Gerbert is so spitting mad at this heard in a long time and I thought that Nick barely lifted a finger to push the envelope in terms of the kind of content that's been discussed on Tucker NOW, in terms of the copes, I heard people say you should, Nick Funtes isn't being actively anti-semitic and it's not even like pushing Tucker to be more anti-semitic, but just, but he, he was definitely being anti-semitic and but he's, but he's definitely.
You know.
Tucker would say, you know, but it's not all, just but yeah, but there is something kind of Jewish about that right, you know it is.
It was kind of that kind of conversation, you know, just notice the numbers that, like Jewish people, by and large support these kinds of things, that they support this genocide in Gaza, etc.
You know, he sounds like he just come.
The whole point is he comes across as like rational center center right, kind of rational guy who's just talking about observable realities that we see in the world, about the Jews that's that's, you know.
But he's not hardcore enough for the act, for these open Anti-semites, he's not openly Anti-semitic enough.
But then he's going to talk about like, possible objections is what he just said.
Why am I angry?
Well, these are some objections we're going to be reasonable.
This, you see, should just be glad that Tucker had Nick Funtes on.
That in and of itself is a victory, to which I said, if I want to, it is a victory for white nationalism, for Nick Funtes to be further mindstreamed.
That is a.
That is a victory for them.
That is objective.
Yeah, it absolutely is.
Yeah.
Two grown men just barely talk about Jewish influence in American foreign policy.
Like that, that's nothing today.
I'm not impressed by that, even if Tucker has a massive audience, right?
Jeffrey.
This is the kind of, this is normally like Mike Enoch's road is to be like, no, you're not being anti-Semitic enough.
Be more anti-Semitic.
Be openly anti-Semitic.
You're either openly anti-Semitic, you're not.
You know, Gerbert is usually much more like kind of like, I'm willing to let people kind of go as far as they're willing to go as long as they're moving in the right direction.
So this must have really pissed him off.
I mean, this must be a legitimate, pissy moment for him.
He's not playing politics here as much as he normally does.
Sachs went harder on in not really the JQ, but the IQ at least.
Not the Jewish question, the Israel question, just in case, you know, that needed elucidating.
People said, well, you see, Nick is just came, he, he like deliberately tempered himself there.
There's no reason to go juju ju on Tucker and alienate the audience.
He's drawing them into his show, which is where he goes really hard.
And I said, okay, fair enough.
And, you know, I haven't been critical of Nick in public or in private really for the past year or two because I thought, you know, if he's, if he's talking about race and Jewish power regularly, making people laugh, mocking the insanity of which Jewish power in America is calling Barry Weiss a spy and all that stuff.
I was like, you know, good on him.
Might not be my cup of tea.
He's been a worm for longer than he's been an Aryan soldier, right?
But, you know, he's getting older.
He's maturing or whatever.
The response of these guys to Nick Fuentes is sometimes just bizarre.
It's just like he's either a wishy-washy little worm or he's like hanging out with his gay kid or he's got too many Jews around him or he's too milk toaster.
He's not going hard enough.
It's like, you know, it's like they don't understand Nick Fuentes' fundamental project is to make their form of white nationalism more palatable by standing off the roughest of edges without ever changing the message.
He never really pushes back on the message.
He's like, well, no, no, but the Jews are a problem.
But oh, yeah, they have some Jewish friends.
I'm not anti-Semitic, but the Jews are a problem.
I mean, it's almost literally what he said in that Tucker Carlson interview in almost that many words.
Nick Fuentes is coming at the same thing as them, but from a different aesthetic angle because he's aiming at a different audience.
Yes.
And they clearly just fundamentally do not get it.
And he is enormously successful.
He is much more successful than they are at this.
Just to be clear.
Clearly, he's penetrated the mainstream.
He's injected himself into the mainstream.
He's made himself big enough that Tucker Carlson can't ignore him, that Canison's can't ignore him, that Megan Kelly can't adore him, that Tim Poole cannot ignore him.
And he's working in these online spaces.
And, you know, it's just a fundamental thing.
Mike Enoch can be utterly ignored by all of these people because he's an open anti-he's an open Nazi.
He's an open, all of these things.
Although there was a time in 2016, 2017, they were trying to bring those guys into the pack.
That was a moment.
We've talked about that previously.
I don't know.
That might be a topic worth revisiting.
Some of that history.
I think that would be interesting.
But yeah, so that's, that's, that's, that was from the most recent episode.
I just wanted to share.
That is from the episode that aired eight days ago or something.
So that's, that's where they are right now.
That's the current study.
That is a current episode.
All right.
I told you we were going to finish with more fucking.
Didn't I tell you where we're going to end it with?
You did promise and I'm holding you to it.
I have it here.
This is from one of the things that these guys have always kind of prided themselves on, or one of the things that I think Gerbert has prided himself on is just kind of being a match, but kind of kind of, he meets people where they are within the movement and kind of brings everybody in.
Yeah, we mentioned a handsome truth in the last episode and his wanted to wanted to bring the get the Nazi guy out of jail.
They've appeared.
He and Sam have appeared on that on Going MTV on the explicitly, you know, we're just going to be, we're just going to be rock on tours for anti-Semitism and racism.
They've had political people like Thomas Sowell from Australia.
And they had, you know, various, various people who are event leaders have appeared on the show.
And during the Science V. Cassider lawsuit and during Cantwell's time in prison, well, during that period, but then also during his trial for the assaults that he committed for the threats he made.
And during his time, during his time in prison, and then when he got out, he maintained a positive relationship with Chris Cantwell.
Discussed in a previous episode how that ended, when Chris Cantwell revealed the mind-blowing amount of gay sex he has had over the course of his life and the audio book he produced telling.
I'm very proud of this audiobook that I have produced that talks about all the gay sex I've had in my life.
Here, Mr. Famous Nazi, won't you, don't?
Don't you think this is the greatest thing I've ever produced?
Yeah Chris, don't talk to me anymore.
You know, that's the thing.
That's the thing.
That that uh, that that broke the, that broke the bridge on that, you know.
But they were close enough with Catwell, that you know.
Catwell was always doing his like paywall material.
So, you know, making it an explicit business decision um, to have paywall content that you know people can come and pay for and they get premium content, etc etc.
And started up this, this like network of.
Well, it ended up being a network of two, you know, and it was Chris's stuff at Surreal Politiques, and then the full, full house ended up doing one main episode, one main line episode, one numbered episode, and then one like kind of cut for time, bonus bits like 20 minutes or something, behind Chris Catwell's paywall or behind kind of the group paywall.
It was supposed to be like a, you know, a cross membership deal sort of thing.
It was the same thing he was trying to do back in 2017, but fewer people involved, you know, because nobody wants to work with Chris Catwell before they even found out about all the mind-blowing gay sex, even before his manuscript dropped.
Yes, and this one is the one they put behind.
They put 30 minutes of it for free so you can listen.
You get you listen to the first 30 minutes, but then the rest was not.
And this one is the one they called the sex show or the ss.
It was stylized even in some versions with uh, the ss bolts.
You know the sex show instead of the.
You know so what I have not told you about?
Sam is an old man.
He's a racist old man in the in the suburbs of Chicago.
He is uh, an old school racist with the screwdriver t-shirts, and this is a man who desperately, desperately loves to.
He is the horniest old man.
I am a horny old man.
This man puts me, I have.
I said i'm a sex geek.
You know, i've known many sex geeks.
I've known horny people in my life.
This is this is among the horniest men I have ever seen in my life, because I think he does like tantric sex.
He does all kinds of like.
You know hey, that's your thing.
I have no problem with him doing tantric sex.
I have no problem with him loving to his wife.
I wish he wouldn't be a nazi about it.
But you know, like this makes everybody around him deeply, deeply uncomfortable, because they don't want to talk about the same thing.
On the sex show they give advice about sex.
It's like Sam comes in there, coach Gerbert comes in there, and they have a couple of the guys.
They have this guy from the show called the God Cast, who's like a um Christian minister, is like a pastor, you know, married his wife when they were both virgin, this sort of thing.
And then a couple of the people from various shows to come on and like oh, you're like married dads and you like, you're.
You, you're a little bit older and you can talk.
You know the genuine problems you have in a marriage of like, you know, how do you keep the spice alive?
How do you keep, you know, etc.
On some level, it is, again, it's fairly unobjectionable material.
I mean, it's center right or right-wing.
I mean, it's, you know, but it's, you know, a lot of it sounds like just ordinary, like, dads giving dads advice, which is the same kind of conceit of the entire show, really.
But then it's twisted through this nauseous ideology that turns it all into fucking poison.
And that's where we're going to end our show today.
We're going to, we're going to talk about semen about semen and Nazi semen.
That's what we're going to be talking about.
It's not technically, although there is a little bit of semen here.
Anyway, are you ready?
Are you ready, Jack?
You didn't know I was going here, but I knew I was going here.
Audience, you have a chance to tune out.
Jack is stuck with me to the end of this.
All right.
Here we go.
Are you ready?
Remember that some, there's upward of 50% or whatever of our audience are single.
No.
And this is right after there's been a long conversation about the need to, how do you find a good woman if you're like a young guy and the importance of like marrying a virgin and being a virgin when you get married and only really having that one, you know, sexual and did not have that history.
He, you know, he went to a fancy grad school.
He said, you know, he said, he's a cosmopolitan.
He's a rootless cosmopolitan, yeah.
Because he's one of those guys.
And so he's pushing back a little bit here.
He's like, yeah, I agree that that's like the ideal, but, you know, well, let's let him talk.
Men who are neither married nor have kids.
And I'm thinking of how many of them out there are either undersexed or completely on sex.
They've never done it.
And to give, to give them the advice to go try to find that right woman and save yourself for marriage.
Of course, there's the issue of finding a virgin out there, which is difficult enough.
But good God, am I like crazy here to be like, no, I want those guys to go out there and sow their wild oats for a little bit.
Yes, you are crazy.
Well, I mean, because they're Nazis, you know, like, yeah.
And of course, these guys are always like, no, no, that is not the pure ideal.
You're not making white babies for the white race.
Okay, wait for Sam's response.
You got to love this.
Then you have to use Jewish birth control.
Ding, ding, ding.
Because Sam believes, because he has a bunch of, he has a dozen kids or whatever, and he believes you just knock up your wife over and over again and you just fuck her in between all those other times.
And you don't use birth control because that's not the tool.
It's the tool of the Jews.
The Jews gave you birth control because they want you to not reproduce because they want you to, it's all white genocide.
It's what genocide all the way down.
I love it.
I love it.
I mean, I guarantee you this man has like used a dildo on his wife.
I mean, he has all sorts of sex toys.
You know, that's not like the Jews ruling this.
It's just like, you know, anything that doesn't lead to immediately to procreation or to the, you know, God.
It's like, you know.
Yeah.
Auschwitz wasn't a death camp, but condom is existing is the white race being genocided.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Well, well, hold on.
Here's an here's another angle to consider in that when you're going out and you're banging other girls.
Here's where I reveal to you that Rolo is both a deeply anti-Semitic man and he loathes women to the bottom of his core.
Every word this man, I've ever heard this man say about the fairer sex is the most vile, contemptible shit you've ever heard in your life.
Ruch Fee would look at this guy and go, like, really?
Really?
Come on, man.
Calm down.
These are people we're talking about.
That's somebody's daughter.
Come on.
Girls don't process sex the same way that men do.
Like they don't just go like, okay, one and done.
That's fine.
Let's move on.
So every girl that guys are sleeping with and then moving on, that's another woman that's going further away from having her own committed marriage.
Yeah, they can't care.
You see, once a woman gets a dick in her, you know, it just messes with her brain a little bit.
She's just, those little lady brains, they just can't really cope with the idea of they want to parabond.
And if they're not pair bonding with the first guy, they fuck them, you know, they just become damaged goods.
You see, it's, you know, like it's this belief is pervasive in our society.
Men can just sleep around because, you know, we just need to come and we just, we can just use a cock sleeve all we want and just, you know, fulfill our desires.
And we don't have an emotional connection.
But women, there's just so much danger to the social or delicate.
I'm like, I'm pretty sure, dude, A, you're probably pretty bad in bed because I just listen to you talking.
I think you're pretty bad in bed.
Also, I know for a fact there are women who really just need to get laid tonight and don't really care about you the next day.
I know for a fact that that's true.
And maybe if you learned a thing or two about how to behave yourself in the bedroom, you might have the pleasure of learning that for yourself as well.
Or just how to behave yourself generally, really.
True.
Maybe not be a Nazi is kind of the first thing.
I'm not even going that far.
I'm like, maybe, maybe learn to perform kenolingus, you know, just maybe.
Well, I think you're way off into outer space at this point.
You know, asking this guy to learn how to behave in the bedroom is already too much.
I think.
Can we start with asking him to learn how to behave around microphones?
That would be a good start.
That would be a good start.
Yes.
Stop doing your Nazi podcast.
That is a step in the right direction, my friend.
Not me.
He's not my friend.
Anyway.
So you have two things.
You are encouraging white men to go make women less likely to pair bond and form families, or you're encouraging white men to go have sex with non-whites, which also comes with the risk of making non-white babies.
Well, I certainly wasn't encouraging that, but I certainly wasn't encouraging.
Heaven foreman.
Oh, God.
I wasn't trying to imply that maybe mixed race people should be creative.
It's like, you know, the more the white women fuck white guys and the more that they aren't getting fulfilled relationship-wise because of their little lady brains.
That's what they need.
They're just going to go seek out, you know, relationships with the subhumans and they might create more mixed breeds.
And it's just like, that's the thing we have to worry about.
Again, it's twisted through this ideology.
It's twisted toward these set of belief structures.
And it's just like, it can't just be like, yeah, we encourage a purity culture, but we understand that like, you know, young people are going to bump uglies.
They're going to enjoy it.
It's going to be a great experience.
But, you know, we also, you know, we encourage you to come back in the fold later.
That is a standard like conservative position on this topic.
That is a, you know, they twisted into something like deeply, deeply fucked up.
No, I know how I'm just saying that's, that's the thing that, that comes with that.
So I, I had to, I had to get after a Normie friend of mine the other day because he, this is a guy who's top dog in his gym and and he's in his late 40s and he has kids, and but he's in a sounds fine so far.
He's in his late 40s.
He's a gym bro.
He's got some kids.
Presumably this guy is white with with white partners producing.
I don't know.
To me, this sounds like kind of maybe not the ideal, but this is what you kind of want from life is more white babies coming out there and responsible middle-aged men.
Let's see where he goes with this.
He doesn't, he's not married.
He just lives with the mother of his children because heaven forbid.
Heaven forbid.
Everybody step one step outside of the traditional role, the 1950s nuclear family role.
They're not married.
They've been together.
They have a couple of kids, but you know, he's not married.
Jesus Christ.
That that is.
That is why they talk all this old man, because they are just desperately conventional, scared people who, who cannot think their way out of these, these set moralities absolutely, absolutely.
And because, because it is comforted, because it is traditional, because it is, you know, it is seen as the only way to be.
Is this like nuclear family idea?
Is this like 1950s Ozzy and Harriet thing which if you poke to them about it, they're smart enough to go?
Well, history wasn't always that way.
They understand a deeper history.
But it is like this, this.
Well, this is our tradition these.
We are white people, we are Europeans and we just always had the white picket fence and the 2.5 children, etc etc.
It's just.
It's just.
It's just the way things are.
And the idea that you know, I mean, I mean they're terrified, I mean you're right, they're terrified of sexual mortgage not being that.
They are terrified of suddenly not being hymen on the totem pole because suddenly, you know, if women could you decide they don't want to you again and then go somebody that she likes better, that's terrifying because suddenly that means you don't have control over that woman anymore.
She she, she might even go take a black dick man.
She might go and eat a black pussy man that is.
Can you imagine?
I can just imagine these guys thinking about that concept.
It's all it.
It all tracks back to that.
You know they're scandalized that this guy who by all other metrics seems to be doing fine and you know, even by their standards is doing what he's supposed to be doing, but he's not married.
Even they haven't legally formalized the property relation, the property status of the woman and and all I mean we talked about it in this episode before.
I mean i'm very hesitant to to do anything that sounds like collapsing the politics of this down into psychoanalysis, but this all I mean it's it's the same obsession with the idea of race mixing or miscegenation, whatever you want to call it that we, we talked about this when we talked about Birth Of A Nation.
That was the real horror in that film.
You know the idea that that black and white people would interbreed and it all tracks back to these guys desperate, raging insecurities about sex, you know, and and therefore about, you know, manhood and status and uh, and all that stuff and thanksgiving and all those things.
Yes, absolutely yeah, and it is and it is like I, I hate we've gone on.
This will be almost a two-hour episode.
I'm sorry it's very long, but you know we've gone through the whole thing and it really is like well they're, they're just racist.
You know that's the end of the day.
Um, they're just scared.
They're just scared of, they're just scared of more brown people being in their society.
But I think it's worth going through like explaining all these in these minute detail.
It's like these people are real, these are real human.
They are not doing this for effect.
They believe this 100 yeah, it's deeply stupid, but it's real, it's very real.
And they do have a substantial audience, probably similar.
So I don't know, I don't I, I don't see their numbers, but you know it's probably at least similar to what, to what we get, if not more.
I don't know.
I, you know I it's.
It's hard to say, but you know these are prominent people within this, within this world, absolutely because for the sake of their, their children and he's talking about this 21 year old girl that he wants to and I would use the word corrupt, like he just wants to see, he's got this one girl, he's had his kids, he's had, but he's, but he's also like yeah, i'm also attracted to this 21 year old now.
I don't think that's perfectly okay.
I mean age gaps and relationships, etc.
You know, we don't know anything about this guy.
Maybe he's there's this 21 year old girl just thinks she's really hot and he's talking to Rollo about it because he so like, who knows?
You know yeah, I dare say men have lots of conversations about the young ladies they'd like to that they'd have no intention of actually.
Okay, I know that for a fact.
Okay, guys like to talk a really big game and if that girl came over to your place, spread her legs and lay down on the bed, most of those guys would have no idea what to do.
I promise you Have sex with her and not commit to her and do nothing, just and just do it over and over.
And that, yeah, and that girl will become a whore that has sex with black men.
Jesus Christ.
Oh, you know, I was just saying about how I'm, you know, I'm reluctant to say anything that sounds like I'm collapsing all this down to psychoanalysis.
And then he just comes up with that.
Like, I don't even, I hate to.
I don't need to say anything.
They're psychoanalyzing themselves in front of me.
And then he just tweeted it out.
Exactly.
Exactly.
All right.
We got like 15 more seconds.
Because that's what happens when men that are in positions of power have sex with vulnerable women.
Those women don't understand that that man isn't trying to make them their wife.
They don't understand that that's just a cum dumpster for them.
And we end on the cum dumpster.
And in this world, women have no agency.
There is no sense in which women are having sex for their own complicated internal reasons for the same reasons that a man would want to have sex.
Sometimes people get look, men sometimes really do just want to get up.
Sometimes they're looking for something.
Sometimes it's a friendship.
Sometimes it's something in between.
You're human beings.
And the same things that you say about men, you say about women, but the misogyny is so baked into this world.
And the things that he believes, he believes that it's stream version of them, but this goes all the way down like traditional purity culture, all the way down.
Very, very similar kinds of stuff is believed by these guys.
You hear it all the time in like manosphere forums and all that kind of stuff.
It's just that women are just built fundamentally differently.
And it's like, no, women are socialized to tell you things differently.
Again, I have known many women perfectly happy to have a one-night stand, one, a one-time, you know, one-time roll in the hay, whether they find attractive.
They do not often find me attractive enough for that, but I've seen it many times.
It's insane.
I've heard of this happening.
I'm not saying I've never experienced it, but I'm not trying to paint myself as the, is the great Lithorio, you know.
Anyway, one thing we do not discuss on this podcast is my sex life.
I guess we've gone a little bit further, but I kind of had to, you know, once I start talking about sex, it becomes very clear.
I've, you know, I have a certain, I've had certain experiences.
Anyway, I've thoroughly embarrassed Jack Graham.
I think it's done.
What did we learn today, Jack?
What did you get out of this experience?
What do you think the audience is going to get out of this experience?
I learned that Full House is just staggeringly boring and a bunch of old guys or people that think and talk like old guys just complaining about people of color existing and Jews existing and women existing and all sorts of other things of that kind that they find deeply, deeply threatening on an existential level because they're just deeply scared, sad little losers.
That's what I learned.
Not to trivialize the bigotry or the anti-Semitism or the misogyny indeed, for that matter.
But yeah, it is as poisonous and potentially lethal as it is, it is also deeply, profoundly, tragically pathetic.
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
I guess, again, man, again, a bumper episode.
I just started pulling clips.
I'm like, all right, I guess this is going to be a long one.
Anyway, thanks a lot for being along.
And we will do more Nazis in the future.
And hopefully, if we like this one, if this one and people respond well to this one, we'll do some more stuff like this.
I think it'll be, I think this is a format that works.
Anyway, I think we teased this one for a long time and we certainly delivered on the tease.
Yes.
Nobody could accuse us of being a cock tease on this one.
