We recorded an episode about the 1996 film Independence Day, because we're looking at movies about the American presidency, and how better to do that than to embrace the cheesy human genocide/American exceptionalist pornography than this entry into the Devlin/Emmerich oeuvre? Spoiler alert: this is deeply stupid, but we both kinda like it anyway. Links: Five-Four Pod on Trump vs the United States: https://shows.acast.com/fivefourpod/episodes/trump-v-united-states Jon Bois video "That's Not Entirely Accurate." Requires a subscription to the Secret Base Patreon. https://www.patreon.com/posts/pretty-good-15-107056427 We will be recording the next full episode in the next few days, and then Daniel will plan the next Patreon live chat. Life has been hectic lately, and we thank you all for your continued support. Full episode exclusive for Patreon subscribers. Please consider donating to help us make the show and stay independent. Patrons get exclusive access to at least one full extra episode a month. Daniel's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/danielharper/posts Jack's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4196618&fan_landing=true IDSG Twitter: https://twitter.com/idsgpod Daniel's Twitter: @danieleharper Jack's (Locked) Twitter: @_Jack_Graham_ Jack's Bluesky: @timescarcass.bsky.social Daniel's Bluesky: @danielharper.bsky.social IDSG on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-dont-speak-german/id1449848509?ls=1
Before you leave office, will you let us know if there's aliens?
Because this is the only thing I really want to know.
I want to know what's going on.
Would you ever open up Roswell and let us know what's really going on there?
So many people ask me that question.
I know, it sounds almost ridiculous, but it's actually the real question I want to know.
It sounds like a cute question, but it's actually... There are millions and millions of people That want to go there?
That want to see it?
I won't talk to you about what I know about it, but it's very interesting.
But Roswell's a very interesting place with a lot of people that would like to know what's going on.
So you're saying you may declassify?
You'll take it?
Well, I'll have to think about that one.
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Okay then, well, uh, welcome everybody to, uh, I Don't Speak German bonus episode, whichever number it is.
And, uh, yeah, it's, uh, Daniel, uh, it's, it's election day here in Britain.
Yes, I am aware of that.
Yep.
Yeah.
And, uh, it's, uh, it's looking like, uh, the conservative party is going to be, we wouldn't have no results yet where I am, but it's looking like the conservative party after 14 years in power is going to be not just kicked out, but Almost annihilated as an electoral force, which is, although I have no enthusiasm whatsoever for Labour, I am looking forward to watching those results come in because that'll be satisfying.
And over stateside there, it's, I believe it's some sort of public holiday where you are today?
Is that right?
It is!
Some sort of obscure public holiday?
Obscure holiday.
Um, it's uh, I believe you you on that side of the pond call it ungrateful day.
Um, but yeah, we are uh, No, this is this is our independence day.
We are recording this on the 4th july.
So, uh, very you are, you know, you are celebrating your independence day Yes, yes.
We had this in the queue to do, and then suddenly it was like, oh shit, it's July, let's just do it now.
So yeah, we are recording this on July 4th, 2024.
That's right.
Yes, we are doing a podcast about Independence Day, the movie Independence Day.
Almost exactly 28 years to the day after it premiered, because it premiered on July 3rd, 1996.
It premiered on July 3rd?
So it premiered on July 3rd.
That really aggravates my OCD.
Do you want to know what's even funnier?
There were actually midnight showings on July 2nd, so technically it actually premiered on July 2nd!
Although I seem to remember reading somewhere that actually, like, July the 4th is, as, like, the legend is that it's the day when the Declaration of Independence was signed and everything, and as usual with history, it wasn't actually.
It was signed on the 2nd and the 3rd and then published on the 4th or something like that.
Something like that.
Yeah, I forget the exact details, but I believe the most of the signers actually signed it on the 2nd, but it took like a couple of days to like get through the mail or whatever.
So yeah, so we celebrate July 4th, but it's actually July 2nd and that is the single greatest lie about the American founding.
Everything else is very tip-top.
In fact, I believe it's the only lie about the founding of America.
It's the only myth or lie about the founding of America, I believe.
The reason for all that is that John Hancock took the entire 2nd of July to do his enormous signature at the bottom.
Yeah, that's that's that's exactly right.
Yeah, he took you know took it took a whole 24 hours It turned out that he was I'm not even I was gonna I was gonna make a very Purell joke, but we're We're above that on this podcast at least on the bonus episodes.
Well, probably less on the bonus episodes, but We can we don't have to We don't have to go there.
We're above anything.
We're not really above much, but yeah.
I've always thought it was a bit unfair on John Hancock because he was, I don't know if he was the first, but he was one of the first people to sign it.
And he does this big sort of impressive signature and it's like, well, you know, it's the Declaration of Independence.
It's a historical It's a huge historical event we're all participating in.
I'm going to give it my best.
I'm going to do a big fancy signature.
And I always think like the real assholes in this situation are the guys that come afterwards and just do normal little signatures underneath to make him look like a dick.
Yeah, well, I mean it's it's all those things I actually like I'm pulling it up now and it's not even like he's I mean He does have the largest signature on the thing, but it's not like It's not like ten times the size of everybody else's or anything, you know Also, this is an era before like lined paper.
And so, you know, you're not I don't know people just kind of signed it It's like signing a yearbook almost like that's a that's really what the the Declaration of Independence was was the the yearbook of America and It was all, it was, we graduated and then it's all been downhill from there.
Like a, like a washed up, like a washed up high school baseball player whose best years were junior and senior year when they went to these semi-playoffs.
Yeah.
Well, we stand John Hancock on this podcast.
Actually, I have no idea if we do or not, because I know nothing else about him.
He's probably a slave owner.
Yeah.
Statistically, yes.
Statistically, yes.
So I think we can just say that.
Anyway.
But yeah, it's interesting.
We haven't actually talked to each other for a little while.
You know, one thing and another.
It's just the way it's fallen out.
But this is the first time We've spoken since your country ceased to be a democracy, which is interesting.
You are now a monarchy, I'm given to understand.
Well... And I'm afraid that's all you're getting of that, at least for the time being.
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