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Dec. 30, 2021 - I Don't Speak German

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PREVIEW: Backer Bonus Episode 14 Seven (1995)

Become a backer of Daniel or Jack to get exclusive access to a new bonus episode. Becoming a patron also brings access to all other bonus episodes. To see off 2021, we chat about David Fincher's 1995 serial killer movie Seven, starring Brad Pitt and several cancelled people. Content warnings, spoilers from the word go. Seven (1995 film) - Wikipedia Daniel's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/danielharper/posts Jack's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4196618&fan_landing=true Please consider donating to help us make the show and stay independent. Patrons get exclusive access to one full extra episode a month. IDSG Twitter: https://twitter.com/idsgpod Daniel's Twitter: @danieleharper Jack's Twitter: @_Jack_Graham_ IDSG on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-dont-speak-german/id1449848509?ls=1

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	IDSG bonus episodes are a regular extra just for Patreon backers of myself or Daniel.
	Here's a preview of the new one.
	I remember at the time it came out, there was a review in one of the sort of high-end movie magazines.
	I can't remember if it was Empire or Premiere, one of those.
	I think it was Premiere.
	Which gave this a very, very good review.
	Very, you know, laudatory review.
	And I remember this, I always remember this for some reason.
	It contrasted this movie very specifically with Tarantino.
	I remember it took a very, it took a stance like, it kind of almost said, you know, this is a direct riposte to Quentin Tarantino.
	You know, like a moral riposte to Tarantino's moral ambivalence, moral nihilism and stuff like that.
	And, you know, I can't help thinking nowadays that that's precisely the wrong way around, particularly having recently seen, I mean, I know Inglourious Bastards is in the future as far as the person writing that review is concerned, but having recently, relatively this year, seen Inglourious Bastards for the first time at your instigation and really, really appreciating it, I really think that that reviewer had it totally backwards.
	We don't even have to, not to be the Tarantino Stan again or anything like that, but Pulp Fiction is the year before.
	Have you seen Pulp Fiction at some point?
	Yeah, I think this review was specifically, you know, like it was, I think if I remember it rightly, it was specifically calling Seven like a moral riposte to Pulp Fiction.
	Yeah.
	So Seven, the film that ends with Our lead wizened old man and the serial killer, the titular serial killer, agreeing fundamentally about the philosophies of life contrasts favorably morally to the film in which the lead character discovers religion after
	experiencing a what he believes to be a miracle and leaving a life of crime like that's the plot of pulp fiction like i i i like i understand that like you know people don't understand how movies work but that's what really that's really don't do they That's literally the plot.
	It's out of order, because that's how the movie is structured.
	But that's the overarching plot of Pulp Fiction, all right?
	Now, we can talk all we want about religion, etc., etc., but a man finds meaning in his life and leaves a life of crime Versus sophomoric philosophical bullshit in the backseat of a car.
	Yeah.
	Versus, you know, ooh, what if the killer kind of had a point about how rotten society is?
	Ooh, that's basically what Seven's.
	Exactly.
	You know, that said, I think.
	Am I, has your brain exploded yet?

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IDSG bonus episodes are a regular extra just for Patreon backers of myself or Daniel.

Here's a preview of the new one.

I remember at the time it came out, there was a review in one of the sort of high-end movie magazines.

I can't remember if it was Empire or Premiere, one of those.

I think it was Premiere.

Which gave this a very, very good review.

Very, you know, laudatory review.

And I remember this, I always remember this for some reason.

It contrasted this movie very specifically with Tarantino.

I remember it took a very, it took a stance like, it kind of almost said, you know, this is a direct riposte to Quentin Tarantino.

You know, like a moral riposte to Tarantino's moral ambivalence, moral nihilism and stuff like that.

And, you know, I can't help thinking nowadays that that's precisely the wrong way around, particularly having recently seen, I mean, I know Inglourious Bastards is in the future as far as the person writing that review is concerned, but having recently, relatively this year, seen Inglourious Bastards for the first time at your instigation and really, really appreciating it, I really think that that reviewer had it totally backwards.

We don't even have to, not to be the Tarantino Stan again or anything like that, but Pulp Fiction is the year before.

Have you seen Pulp Fiction at some point?

Yeah, I think this review was specifically, you know, like it was, I think if I remember it rightly, it was specifically calling Seven like a moral riposte to Pulp Fiction.

Yeah.

So Seven, the film that ends with Our lead wizened old man and the serial killer, the titular serial killer, agreeing fundamentally about the philosophies of life contrasts favorably morally to the film in which the lead character discovers religion after

experiencing a what he believes to be a miracle and leaving a life of crime like that's the plot of pulp fiction like i i i like i understand that like you know people don't understand how movies work but that's what really that's really don't do they That's literally the plot.

It's out of order, because that's how the movie is structured.

But that's the overarching plot of Pulp Fiction, all right?

Now, we can talk all we want about religion, etc., etc., but a man finds meaning in his life and leaves a life of crime Versus sophomoric philosophical bullshit in the backseat of a car.

Yeah.

Versus, you know, ooh, what if the killer kind of had a point about how rotten society is?

Ooh, that's basically what Seven's.

Exactly.

You know, that said, I think.

Am I, has your brain exploded yet?