Stay Free - Russel Brand - Hillary Applauds Trump, Islam Enters NYC City Hall and Churchill Faces a New Cultural Fight — SF692
Aired: 2026-03-16
Duration: 01:03:26


=== Awaken Your Rebelliousness (14:04) ===

[00:00:07]  Ladies and gentlemen, Russell Brand trying to bring real journalism to the American people.
[00:00:17]  Hello there, you awakening wonders.
[00:00:18]  Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
[00:00:21]  It's a beautiful new week, a glorious new Monday, and we've got so much to discuss with you.
[00:00:26]  With me in the studio, as is often the case, although sadly not always, is beloved Dave Fields.
[00:00:31]  All right, Dave, you okay?
[00:00:32]  Doing great.
[00:00:33]  We're going to go away on a small vacation together.
[00:00:35]  We're going to go into the desert.
[00:00:36]  A different man will emerge from the desert, Dave.
[00:00:39]  That's always the case.
[00:00:40]  And Jake Smith's with us as well.
[00:00:42]  All right, Jake.
[00:00:42]  I'm here.
[00:00:43]  How come you're not recording an album right now?
[00:00:44]  What's going on?
[00:00:45]  Because, you know, there's so many people lined up.
[00:00:48]  Lining up to record albums.
[00:00:50]  With us on the line, mysteriously, inexplicably, and in my opinion, ill-advisedly, Joe McCann is in Morocco.
[00:00:58]  What are you doing there?
[00:00:59]  Why are you in Morocco?
[00:01:01]  Just a little vacation, a little few days.
[00:01:04]  Come with a friend of mine.
[00:01:05]  He's there on business.
[00:01:06]  I thought, why not check it out?
[00:01:08]  See what's going on in Morocco.
[00:01:09]  I've never been here.
[00:01:10]  I like it.
[00:01:11]  Are you having a nice time?
[00:01:12]  I'm glad you're having a nice time.
[00:01:13]  Here are the only reasons that I know historically that people go to Morocco.
[00:01:16]  Rent Boys, that's one of them.
[00:01:18]  That was Kenneth Williams.
[00:01:19]  The Rolling Stones recorded an album there.
[00:01:21]  So that was Hedonism and Decadence and Free Access to Hashish.
[00:01:25]  That's all of the reasons.
[00:01:27]  That's the end of the reasons.
[00:01:28]  There are no other reasons.
[00:01:30]  The Earthly Wanderer that is Massey is in Canada via Birkenhead, Merseyside, and Iran.
[00:01:38]  Are you all right, mate?
[00:01:40]  Good, mate.
[00:01:41]  Good.
[00:01:41]  Good, Morocco, but no, no, we can't all be.
[00:01:44]  You'll find your way there sooner or later in this weird cultural odyssey you seem to be on.
[00:01:48]  It's only a matter of time before you're broadcasting from Casablanca, I'm sure.
[00:01:52]  All right, so here is a unique bit of footage in a sense.
[00:01:55]  It's Hillary Clinton, in a sense, praising Donald Trump.
[00:02:00]  I actually thought it may be AI, but I understand it.
[00:02:03]  It's not.
[00:02:04]  Hey, yo, Joe, you'll have to mute when you're not talking dull because you've got weird ambient noise in that Casbah you're in, in that weird place.
[00:02:13]  What camera angle is that?
[00:02:14]  Who shoots himself from down there?
[00:02:16]  It's like footage from a colonoscopy.
[00:02:18]  Might as well be in your anal cavity.
[00:02:20]  Yes, there you go.
[00:02:21]  Now we'd see what's going on in the background.
[00:02:23]  Now it makes a lot more sense.
[00:02:24]  He's out in some public square.
[00:02:26]  I bet just out of frame, there's one of them hookahs, isn't there?
[00:02:29]  Is there a hookah anywhere in the vicinity?
[00:02:32]  No, all right, that's legit.
[00:02:33]  That's legit.
[00:02:34]  He's alright.
[00:02:34]  He's out of control.
[00:02:35]  Let's have a look at Hillary Clinton now praising up Donald Trump.
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[00:02:55]  You get a whole host of people.
[00:02:56]  So join us there.
[00:02:57]  But before that, let's get into Hillary Clinton praising Donald Trump.
[00:03:00]  I think all of that is a very good signal that there is beginning to be a better understanding, both by the president and the people around him, as well as by the leaders of our European allies, that there can be common ground amongst us.
[00:03:18]  And the kind of dismissiveness that we saw in the first Trump administration has been replaced by a much more obvious working relationship to the good of European security, transatlantic security, and hopefully Ukrainian security.
[00:03:35]  So I'm actually encouraged.
[00:03:38]  If one of the things you like about Donald Trump is that he's a rabble rouser and seems to be like a one-man middle finger to the kind of global authorities that many people rejected.
[00:03:49]  How do you feel when you see Hillary Clinton praise him?
[00:03:52]  And what do you feel about that sort of haughty position she has, like a deputy head mistress saying, like, he's coming round.
[00:03:58]  he's doing well.
[00:04:00]  Man, I don't know, mate.
[00:04:01]  I don't like it to see Hillary Clinton praising him.
[00:04:03]  And isn't it interesting that it takes like a war for Hillary Clinton to say, good, finally, now we can get back to business.
[00:04:10]  Does it unnerve you, Dave?
[00:04:11]  Yeah, it's strange.
[00:04:13]  My first thought is, ah, it's got to be AI.
[00:04:15]  Off always AI.
[00:04:16]  I more liked it when she was in that tribunal thing.
[00:04:20]  Like where they're asking her and her husband about Epstein Island and she's sort of bridling with like, how dare you?
[00:04:25]  How dare you ask me about my secret life as a Satanist?
[00:04:30]  That's what some people are alleging, not me, of course.
[00:04:33]  Elsewhere, the power diaspora continues to spread in New York.
[00:04:37]  Mamdani is a lot of, well, I guess this is going to be New York City Hall in a sort of a state of dysfunction and disrepair.
[00:04:45]  Although, I'd like to take this opportunity to iterate exactly this.
[00:04:48]  Do you think that contemporary politics could house and contain a variety of political ideologies, i.e., you could have an entire socialist city.
[00:04:57]  You could have a Muslim town.
[00:05:00]  You could have a Christian revival.
[00:05:02]  You could have real direct democracy.
[00:05:04]  What all of us want, I think, and this seems more and more clear to me, is real, actual, direct democracy continually.
[00:05:11]  Like inside yourself, there is this kind of yearning and call for freedom that can only be found in him.
[00:05:16]  True freedom is only available and accessible in him.
[00:05:19]  I thought I might find freedom in a kind of bizarre ecstasy, in a kind of worldliness.
[00:05:24]  It's not there.
[00:05:25]  You can't make yourself free through power or approval or orgasm.
[00:05:29]  If you could make yourself free through orgasm, Joe would be free right now in Marrakech, where I can see he's absolutely surrounded by young Mohammedan boys all offering favours for farthings.
[00:05:41]  Let's have a look at what's going on under Mamdani.
[00:05:43]  One scarcely dare imagine.
[00:05:45]  Oh my God.
[00:05:48]  We'll make some of that.
[00:05:50]  For a moment, we're asking yourself how you can reconnect to...
[00:05:56]  Growing up with being taught that...
[00:06:05]  Actually, look, I'm not against Islam or Muslims or religious freedom, but you know that secularism is the abiding ideology of United States culture, i.e. the separation of church and state.
[00:06:21]  So in a way, do you think that the aim of that is to celebrate variety or diversity and New York's melting pot identity?
[00:06:30]  Or do you think that it's deliberately provocative?
[00:06:32]  Have you noticed that with a lot of the information that you get these days, there seems to be a secondary insidious intent to enrage you, to provoke you?
[00:06:41]  And do you notice how hard it is not to topple either side of the wire?
[00:06:46]  Not to fall into, well, I think it's fantastic.
[00:06:48]  I think it's fantastic that there are Muslims in New York City who are, this is the worst thing that's ever happened.
[00:06:54]  Do you know they're happy with either result?
[00:06:56]  Either result is good for them either.
[00:06:59]  What they don't want you to do is go, cool, as long as I'm free to be who I am with God, then I'm okay with it.
[00:07:05]  I don't have a strong opinion on what other people do.
[00:07:08]  You know, see, just this morning I was reading 1 Corinthians where Paul is addressing the apparently hedonic and decadent people of Corinth who have been engaging in mass sexual immorality.
[00:07:19]  And on the list is, and this is a difficult thing for a person that comes from a progressive and liberal time and culture and land like me, homosexuality is listed as one of the sins.
[00:07:29]  Sexual immorality, homosexuality, stealing, all these kind of things.
[00:07:33]  And Paul goes on to say, you know, all of you were, many of you were in these categories before Paul says, huh?
[00:07:40]  And what I note is that our identity oughtn't be ensconced or housed within our sexuality.
[00:07:48]  Our identity oughtn't be within worldliness.
[00:07:51]  Our identity oughtn't be trapped within any kind of false idolatry.
[00:07:56]  Let me know what you think about that in the comments and chat.
[00:07:59]  Let me know what you think when there is clear prescription around sexual morality.
[00:08:06]  And let me know how you sort of keep away from judgment in that.
[00:08:09]  Like how you keep from the resist the temptation to judge others.
[00:08:14]  How do you resist that temptation?
[00:08:15]  I find it pretty hard sometimes because we live in a fluxy, hazy time where people that were nailed down superstars of history like Winston Churchill are now kind of up for equivocal debate.
[00:08:28]  And perhaps the reason for that isn't that if we are becoming aware through like the revelations in the Epstein files, for example, that nothing can be relied upon as absolutely true anymore, that maybe you can go back and look at Winston Churchill and go, well, maybe he wasn't a man of great fortitude, valor and bravery.
[00:08:46]  Maybe he too was some stooge of the system.
[00:08:49]  Now, I'm an Englishman.
[00:08:50]  For me, Churchill, oh, that's what it's all about.
[00:08:53]  That guy with a stogie on and a cane, in every hand, a phallus, nothing but endless masculinity in Churchill, a man that understood rock star iconography even before rock star ideology had been instantiated, is difficult to undermine because he represents Britain.
[00:09:10]  He is, whenever there's a list of who's the greatest ever English person, Churchill, then maybe, I don't know, John Lennon.
[00:09:16]  I don't know where you go, Shakespeare, Churchill, John Lennon.
[00:09:19]  The Bank of England has confirmed Winston Churchill will be scrapped from banknotes.
[00:09:23]  Look, even this is designed to create a reaction and replaced with images of wildlife.
[00:09:28]  That's obviously literally pagan.
[00:09:30]  The central bank will soon ask the public which animals they want to appear.
[00:09:34]  What's amazing is the idea that we're being asked to participate.
[00:09:38]  I think I would like a woodpecker.
[00:09:41]  Like, that's the level of freedom that you're invited to participate in.
[00:09:46]  We're going to control the currency.
[00:09:48]  God help you if you try and get involved in a currency that's not centrally mitigated, organized, and controlled.
[00:09:53]  But with the currency that we control and can print at leisure and can authorize, control, inflate, deflate at will, you can decide what picture.
[00:10:02]  That's how I raise my children.
[00:10:04]  Okay, you're choosing from these free movies.
[00:10:07]  I'm not letting them choose or they'll make me watch some sort of Nickelodeon pedo propaganda thing or some terrible, boring thing from Disney where you think, why are they doing a dirty over the shoulder of this 12-year-old girl that includes the ass in the shot?
[00:10:20]  Why are they doing that?
[00:10:21]  Why does the Nickelodeon logo look like Epstein Island?
[00:10:25]  Ah!
[00:10:26]  It's too much.
[00:10:27]  I can't take it anymore.
[00:10:29]  Anyway, the fact is, is that by the people that govern you, you are regarded as a kind of child.
[00:10:34]  And in a way, you're supposed to become as a child so that you can innocently live in the free-flowing spontaneity of the moment, like Christ, like the Lord, and receive the true power that's available only outside of time.
[00:10:45]  But what they want you to do is think that you're free because you've got to choose, I don't know, a centipede is going to be in a five-pound note or a picture of a python on a $10 bill.
[00:10:54]  Instead of saying, we're not participating anymore.
[00:10:57]  We're not paying tax.
[00:10:58]  We're not using your currency.
[00:11:00]  We demand immediate, immediate, direct democracy now.
[00:11:04]  It's available.
[00:11:05]  It's possible.
[00:11:06]  It's urgently achievable.
[00:11:08]  Why don't we participate in that together instead of quarreling about whether or not Mam Dar and his mates have got prayer mats or whatever?
[00:11:16]  The move to replace historical figures with animals was described as significant and overdue by celebrity birdwatcher Nadeem Pereira.
[00:11:25]  Okay, we're about to reorganize.
[00:11:28]  We're about to reorganize our financial systems.
[00:11:31]  Please, somebody get me a celebrity birdwatcher.
[00:11:36]  To quote Dave Chappelle's amazing jar rule bit there.
[00:11:40]  Victoria Cleland, that is its chief cashier, says the key driver for introducing a new banknote series is always to increase counterfeit resilience.
[00:11:48]  That's amazing.
[00:11:50]  But the truth is that everything we live in is a kind of counterfeit.
[00:11:54]  You know that there is so much metaphor packed into a single dollar bill.
[00:11:57]  It says on it, in God we trust.
[00:11:59]  And you look at that crazy eye and that crazy triangle.
[00:12:02]  You recognize that it requires your faith for it to have any value at all.
[00:12:06]  You know that Joby Weeks, one of the early pioneers of Bitcoin mining, is still on a tag on a bracelet on house arrest in his own home because he quickly figured out the way that cryptocurrency was heading and that he was going to back like that.
[00:12:21]  A lot of people were going to make a lot of money and a lot of people were going to be free.
[00:12:24]  And what happened as a result of his ingenuity and entrepreneurialism is that centralized government authorities, in particular the CIA, nicked his ass and he's still in jail right now.
[00:12:34]  Free Joby, there's a link in the description to the film about that, which we did a watch along.
[00:12:38]  You can watch that again with us.
[00:12:40]  In a sense, what I'm saying is the important arguments to have now are about centralization, centralized authority over information, centralized control over currency.
[00:12:50]  These two arguments are pivotal to our advance and our freedom.
[00:12:54]  But that's just what I think.
[00:12:54]  Why don't you let me know what you think in the comments and the chat?
[00:12:58]  Or you could tell me, would you like to have a picture of Al Jolson on a dollar bill?
[00:13:02]  Or would you like to have a picture of The Rock on a penny piece?
[00:13:06]  Would that suffice for your freedom?
[00:13:08]  Because that's the level they want to keep you at.
[00:13:10]  woodpeckers and kingfishers indeed um the bank of scotland's uh currency has got that's actually quite nice You can see those fish.
[00:13:18]  They're quite nice, little others, and that.
[00:13:20]  I'd like to look at that while I'm handed over.
[00:13:22]  What do you think about our country when you say stuff like that, Dave?
[00:13:25]  Like, you know, people arguing about whether or not to have looks to me like a trout on a five-pound note or a pair of red squirrels.
[00:13:33]  It reminds me of when you always say, hey, they're going to frame it as it's for your safety.
[00:13:41]  Yeah.
[00:13:42]  You know, it's like, we're doing this because of counterfeits.
[00:13:45]  We're doing, you know, it's for your safety.
[00:13:48]  You know, now we're going to do it.
[00:13:50]  But you get to, you know, this is democracy.
[00:13:53]  You get to choose what picture you want on it.
[00:13:55]  It's not, it's, it does remind me.
[00:13:57]  I think you're right.
[00:13:58]  It reminds me of my kids.
[00:13:59]  It's like, hey, here's your two options.
[00:14:02]  I'll let you participate in this little bit of these two options, but I've already made the choice.
[00:14:08]  Limitless choice when it comes to breakfast cereal.

=== The Tax Network Trap (03:27) ===

[00:14:11]  Yeah.
[00:14:11]  No choice when it comes to how you actually live your life.
[00:14:16]  Man, if you can awaken to this, allow the rebelliousness in you to come forth correctly directed.
[00:14:24]  What I've always found hard is for me, I'm naturally a rebellious individual.
[00:14:28]  Why, even my initials, R-E-B, are the first three letters of the word rebel, a fact that I've often indulged.
[00:14:36]  But I was rebelling against the wrong thing.
[00:14:39]  I was rebelling in order to fortify and celebrate and get into self.
[00:14:44]  But self is where they get you.
[00:14:46]  Self is the nexus.
[00:14:47]  If you live on that false plane, you will never penetrate into the foundational reality, the essential reality in which he invites you to be a co-creator and participant.
[00:14:56]  Ah, so much to explain.
[00:14:58]  So little time.
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[00:16:01]  They tyrannize you like that.
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=== Farage's Language Problems (06:48) ===

[00:17:38]  Or visit tnusa.com slash brand or click the link below.
[00:17:44]  There's a link down there.
[00:17:45]  You sick animals.
[00:17:46]  I don't mean literally under the desk.
[00:17:48]  That's my reproductive organs.
[00:17:49]  I mean on the screen.
[00:17:51]  Tax network USA.
[00:17:52]  Stop what you're doing.
[00:17:55]  Nigel Farage is seemingly being groomed to be the next leader of the United Kingdom.
[00:18:00]  I had arguments with him.
[00:18:02]  I don't know if any of you remember that.
[00:18:03]  You're Americans.
[00:18:04]  You won't care.
[00:18:04]  But there was a time where I was on a show called Question Time with him.
[00:18:07]  And when I was on question time with him, people don't like you wearing a shirt down low.
[00:18:11]  I'll tell you that.
[00:18:12]  That causes a lot of problems.
[00:18:14]  Like people are really easily startled by that.
[00:18:16]  Like in some of the, we'll talk about this later.
[00:18:18]  In some of my court appearances, like I'm wearing clothes that I always wear, right?
[00:18:24]  Like, and like, look, look at this.
[00:18:26]  Right, what's this say?
[00:18:27]  Russell Brand clutches a Bible.
[00:18:28]  Look at this.
[00:18:30]  Russell Brand clutches Bible outside court.
[00:18:33]  Why is it saying clutching?
[00:18:34]  Why is it using like, like I'm clutching it?
[00:18:38]  Like shut, clamping it shut, like a sort of a vaginal purse.
[00:18:43]  I was old in it.
[00:18:44]  Like, why do you have to load the word hold with meaning?
[00:18:47]  Former comedian, former comedian Russell Brand has appeared, but now full-time rapist, has appeared at Suffolk Crown Court charged with two counts of rape and sexual assault dating back to 2009.
[00:18:59]  Brad, dating back to, like even that, every little bit, like the most recent, the most recent allegation relates to 2009.
[00:19:06]  Yes.
[00:19:07]  That every single opportunity to frame it how they want it framed is taken.
[00:19:13]  And that shows you that there is an intent.
[00:19:16]  And the fact that there's an intent is sort of fascinating to me.
[00:19:19]  It's obviously easy when I'm not talking about stuff that relates to me personally because how can I not be personally affected?
[00:19:25]  Brand, check out this, who has declared himself a born-again Christian.
[00:19:30]  I declare myself.
[00:19:32]  Like it's like using every single effort it can to bias.
[00:19:37]  That's like to bias the outcome.
[00:19:40]  Oh my God.
[00:19:42]  Which bore various bookmark tabs.
[00:19:45]  I understand language, so I actually can see and feel what it's doing.
[00:19:48]  The media personality who's made a name for himself, like every single opportunity to make it sound idolatrous, self-involved.
[00:19:57]  And by the way, these are problems that I've had over my life.
[00:19:59]  So in a sense, fair point.
[00:20:01]  I have been a bit self-involved over the course of my life.
[00:20:03]  That has been the number one problem, not having a real identity in God, having an identity in self.
[00:20:09]  It's a problem I think a lot of us have.
[00:20:11]  Wore a low-plunging shirt, exposing his chest.
[00:20:15]  Look how much the shirt's doing.
[00:20:17]  The shirt's plunging.
[00:20:18]  It's exposing.
[00:20:20]  It's only a bit of fabric.
[00:20:22]  It's only a bit of fabric.
[00:20:23]  He's not actually doing all these things.
[00:20:25]  He wore a fedora, sunglasses and a cross-necklace.
[00:20:28]  Like, it's so intricate.
[00:20:29]  Like, what possible justification is there for that level of scrutiny?
[00:20:33]  Anyway, when I was on question time one time with Nigel Farage, at that point, what I was focused on is what I felt was the lack of compassion in arguments where migrants are highlighted and framed as the most significant problem in a country's decline or a country's problems.
[00:20:54]  And I still see that.
[00:20:55]  What I recognize these days, right, is that when the state or state-sanctioned interests try to take the role of the try to fulfill the void left by the kind of waning of compassion in our culture, it gets it wrong.
[00:21:12]  It gets it wrong.
[00:21:13]  We should be coming from a place.
[00:21:15]  Like you can point to scripture that says, love the foreigner.
[00:21:18]  You were foreigners once.
[00:21:20]  All of this stuff.
[00:21:21]  Love your brother.
[00:21:22]  Find the outcast.
[00:21:23]  All of this stuff's in there.
[00:21:25]  There's a lot of reconciliation that needs to be done.
[00:21:27]  Anyway, like me, I didn't like Nigel Farage very much because I thought he was sort of like stirring up hatred and dislike and disdain.
[00:21:36]  Now that I talk to people that have different perspectives when it comes to nationalism, what I see is that they're trying to protect and defend tradition and their rights to their land and their country and their culture, rights that are being eroded, I think, significantly from top down.
[00:21:53]  My argument has always been, how can people that are at the bottom of a culture that don't have any power be responsible for the trajectory and direction of that culture?
[00:22:02]  And I hold firm to that.
[00:22:04]  Let me know what you think in the comments and chat.
[00:22:06]  If you don't have any power, if you're a refugee, if you're a migrant, you don't have any power.
[00:22:10]  Now, that doesn't mean that migration isn't a significant cause of social strife and what people would call replacement theory.
[00:22:15]  And those ideas are significant and important.
[00:22:17]  But who is behind it?
[00:22:19]  What are the powers that are behind it?
[00:22:21]  Do you not know that when you focus on other poor people, you're doing exactly what they want you to do?
[00:22:28]  And these are the conversations that I have with E.G. Tommy Robinson and the conversations that, gosh, I hope I'm better equipped to have now with people that have genuine concerns about migration and Islam and all of these problems that define our space that generate division and that ultimately, if not addressed differently, can't lead us to the unity, the unity that we will require to oppose centralized authority, which is all of our real problem.
[00:22:53]  Anyway, here's Nigel Farage talking about banknotes.
[00:22:56]  Our great British banknotes produced by the Bank of England and they have on them giant figures like Winston Churchill and yet they're proposing we replace people like him with a picture of a beaver.
[00:23:08]  No, I'm not making it up.
[00:23:10]  This is actually what they're proposing.
[00:23:12]  This is our PC mad and loony.
[00:23:14]  Everyone's gone, including the Bank of England.
[00:23:17]  I think it's absolutely crackers.
[00:23:20]  But what I know, please, what do you think?
[00:23:24]  In a sense, look at how politics has adapted to the online space now.
[00:23:28]  Indeed, that's the problem that we face.
[00:23:30]  If you can identify and see how decentralized currency is a threat to financial systems, surely you can understand that decentralized information is a threat to the very same power structures, or at least different aspects of the same centralized power structures.
[00:23:45]  Can you see now how politicians are emulating the language and even the body language of this very media?
[00:23:51]  Let me know what you think in the comments and chat.
[00:23:53]  Nigel Farage might as well have just said.
[00:23:56]  I recognize that the people that are most interested in conserving and preserving centralized power are aware now of the serious threat that independent media represents.
[00:24:06]  They cannot continue to justify their control and authority unless it's by enhancing and exaggerating external threats.
[00:24:14]  That's why we live in a time of perpetual continual crisis from 9-11 onwards.
[00:24:19]  This crisis, therefore, Patriot Act.
[00:24:21]  Then the Occupy movement and the mortgage crash.
[00:24:24]  Therefore, because of this crisis, we need these controls.

=== Live Pulse on Beliefs (05:24) ===

[00:24:27]  Then during the pandemic, we need these controls.
[00:24:29]  And they never rescinded fully, as Joe always says.
[00:24:32]  They always turn up the temperature a little bit.
[00:24:33]  It never comes down entirely.
[00:24:36]  You're right over there, Joe, mate.
[00:24:39]  What's going on, mate?
[00:24:40]  Like, since the time I've been talking to you, what are you doing?
[00:24:43]  Having a sheesh kebab?
[00:24:44]  Like, I can tell you've got lamb in your teeth.
[00:24:47]  Yeah.
[00:24:48]  Just munching down.
[00:24:50]  Yeah, it looks all right.
[00:24:51]  You're doing a good job there.
[00:24:52]  I like that where you selected to do this podcast was actually a busy public square, like as if you're going to do a relationship breakup or a mob hit.
[00:25:02]  Like you've chosen.
[00:25:03]  That's like, looks like the restaurant where Michael Corleone killed that policeman.
[00:25:09]  Belows off.
[00:25:10]  Was that his name?
[00:25:11]  Oh, that was Scarface, wasn't it?
[00:25:13]  Yeah.
[00:25:15]  So a really interesting environment we selected.
[00:25:19]  That was quite hard to concentrate there.
[00:25:20]  Street acrobat.
[00:25:22]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:25:23]  Dressed like little clowns doing backflips and stuff down the road.
[00:25:26]  That's what you're going to get out of there, mate.
[00:25:28]  I tell you what, everywhere you look, though, who's this crowd around you?
[00:25:32]  I've not seen a Moroccan anywhere, nowhere in the frame.
[00:25:38]  I mean, at least Nav's Brown.
[00:25:41]  The fellas that work there.
[00:25:43]  There's not a Moroccan in sight.
[00:25:46]  Is there?
[00:25:50]  Get yourself down a bazaar.
[00:25:51]  Get down a bazaar.
[00:25:52]  I want to see that little monkey out of Indiana Jones in a waistcoat.
[00:25:57]  I'm fresh off the flight.
[00:25:58]  Get down the bazaars, mate, and absorb that culture.
[00:26:01]  Get it full frontal.
[00:26:04]  By the end of this podcast, Joe, I bet you, like, if you put your mind to it, by the end of this podcast, you could have a monkey on your shoulder in a waistcoat.
[00:26:12]  That'd be great.
[00:26:13]  Wouldn't it?
[00:26:13]  That'd be great.
[00:26:14]  Wouldn't it be amazing if by the end of it you had a monkey?
[00:26:17]  Like, get down a bazaar.
[00:26:18]  Let everyone be trying to sell you carpets and that.
[00:26:21]  Sir, sir, come to get this carpet.
[00:26:22]  You bam, elbowed him aside.
[00:26:24]  Get me a monkey.
[00:26:26]  You'll get like used.
[00:26:27]  I'll tell you what, mate.
[00:26:28]  I've been there.
[00:26:28]  I've been not that exact town, but I've been places in Marrakesh.
[00:26:32]  They're all day long want a monkey.
[00:26:34]  They're trying to get a monkey on your shoulder.
[00:26:35]  You won't walk 500 yards.
[00:26:37]  Follow them clown acrobat geezers.
[00:26:39]  They'll lead you to a monkey in a waistcoat.
[00:26:42]  Yeah.
[00:26:42]  No doubt about it.
[00:26:45]  Get that steak down, yeah, and start doing some genuine investigative journalism.
[00:26:50]  I'd say, yeah.
[00:26:50]  Genuine investigative journalism.
[00:26:52]  Sat there, channel down on that.
[00:26:54]  All right.
[00:26:55]  Okay, so listen, we'll have a quick word from one of our partners now, and then I'm going to jump into a new item.
[00:27:01]  If polymarket, we'd vote on if Joe's going to have a monkey.
[00:27:06]  Polymarket.
[00:27:08]  You can look at anything.
[00:27:08]  You can the duration of the Iran war.
[00:27:11]  You can look out which football team's going to win the EPL this year.
[00:27:14]  You can look at whether or not Mexico will be ready to hold the World Cup with all of the social unrest.
[00:27:20]  But can you go on polymarket and get a bet on whether or not Joe can find a capuchin monkey wearing at least one item of clothing?
[00:27:29]  I would prefer a vest if it was up to me or a little hat like that.
[00:27:33]  The image I've got is the one from Indiana Jones.
[00:27:36]  Yeah, you can find one.
[00:27:37]  You know him?
[00:27:38]  Yeah.
[00:27:39]  He turned out to be a little bit of a traitor, that one.
[00:27:41]  He betrays, do you remember?
[00:27:43]  There's a date, and like Indiana Jones, I think, tricks the monkey.
[00:27:47]  Or one way or another, the monkey doesn't make it.
[00:27:50]  And then there's a date on the front.
[00:27:51]  And then Indiana Jones has got that lovely girlfriend.
[00:27:53]  Yeah, Abu is a little tricky too on Aladdin.
[00:27:56]  Yeah, he's the same guy.
[00:27:57]  I think that the same monkey.
[00:28:00]  Oh, the monkey.
[00:28:00]  Ross's monkey.
[00:28:02]  I didn't like that little guy either.
[00:28:04]  And I wondered what function that thing was fulfilling in the show of friends, really.
[00:28:09]  Is it that everyone was so perfect, such a perfect quadrant, a perfect quadrant of beauty, that there was the requirement for some sort of little element of mischief?
[00:28:21]  Who's going to be gone for the guy in the coffee shop?
[00:28:22]  He's not going to do it.
[00:28:23]  Everyone was playing with their monkey and friends.
[00:28:25]  So that's the.
[00:28:26]  That you think that that's what it's trying to lead to?
[00:28:28]  Oh, it's the cultural shift.
[00:28:29]  It was a filthy cultural artifact, was friends, really.
[00:28:32]  It was leading us by the hand into sanitized decadence, is what it was.
[00:28:37]  We know that now.
[00:28:38]  We may not have known it then.
[00:28:40]  Hey, what about if I interview you, Sinshaw, you're here?
[00:28:43]  With me also in the studio, but we will need a camera on you.
[00:28:46]  Although we could use that footage, couldn't we?
[00:28:48]  If, yeah, like throw your mic, throw your clip-on mic to him, maybe.
[00:28:52]  Oh, and then we've got the audio as well.
[00:28:54]  But the guys won't be able to hear you perfectly well.
[00:28:57]  And we can say this order.
[00:28:58]  You want them to switch over to me?
[00:28:59]  Yeah.
[00:29:00]  Oh, no, we could just keep, we could have Mickey in with us.
[00:29:05]  Which mic do you think?
[00:29:06]  Oh, you want my audio?
[00:29:10]  We'll be back in a second after these important messages.
[00:29:13]  Someone asked me the other day, how do you get a sense of what's going to happen next?
[00:29:16]  I told them, I simply look out the window.
[00:29:18]  But if that doesn't work, polymarket.
[00:29:20]  I check it out.
[00:29:21]  It's extremely insightful.
[00:29:22]  Basically, you're watching how thousands of people are betting on outcomes, political elections, big policy moves, even events you wouldn't expect.
[00:29:28]  It's kind of like a live pulse on what people actually believe.
[00:29:32]  You can see trends before they hit mainstream news.
[00:29:34]  For me, it's not about gambling.
[00:29:36]  I don't like gambling.
[00:29:37]  It's about understanding the probabilities and where the momentum is shifting.
[00:29:41]  If you like following the news, but want a deeper look at what people really think is a fascinating tool.
[00:29:45]  Check out polymarket.com now.
[00:29:47]  That's right, polymarket.com now.
[00:29:48]  Have a look.

=== Return to Sovereignty (07:03) ===

[00:29:52]  Hello, welcome back.
[00:29:53]  Joining me in the studio is Mickey Willis, director of Plandemic and also of Free Joby.
[00:29:58]  You saw our watch along of Job Weeks.
[00:30:00]  Thanks for joining us, Mickey.
[00:30:02]  Thanks for having me, Russell.
[00:30:03]  When you're listening to this, I was sort of conscious that you were in the room because we're working together at the moment.
[00:30:08]  And I talk, for example, about the centralization of information and the way that the decentralized information has contributed to the necessity for kind of takedowns and also really how that theme runs through a film we've already made, the Joby Weeks film.
[00:30:25]  Do you see that across many institutions and of areas of American cultural life?
[00:30:30]  That there's a sort of a trend towards decentralization that's been resisted.
[00:30:34]  Absolutely.
[00:30:34]  Well, of course, the trend towards centralization is the problem because then you can push a button on the control of our money, our healthcare, our politics, everything.
[00:30:43]  And so I think really the solution to all of it is the decentralization, which has become the enemy, really, because that creates that sovereignty, that ability for us to control those particular elements of our lives that are important, that we need.
[00:30:57]  And so there is.
[00:30:58]  There's been a particularly, you know, the one beautiful thing about the lack of trust that's been developing is it's created this return to sovereignty.
[00:31:06]  This return to people wanting to put their hands in the soil again, to grow their own food again, to realize that they need to be, to have their own energy supply at their homes.
[00:31:16]  So the fear, which was intended to divide us, has divided us, but kind of into this place of sovereignty where people are now understanding that I'm no longer a slave to the system.
[00:31:28]  I want to break away and have the ability that if they do push a centralized button, my family will survive.
[00:31:35]  And so that's driving us really kind of back to the days of a, you know, personally, I have rethought all of the Amish, the Mennonites, all of these communities that were, you know, backwoods and out of touch, you know, for so many decades, that's how we viewed them.
[00:31:54]  Now it's easy to look at them and realize, wow, maybe they actually had it right.
[00:31:59]  You know, they're educating their children on their own, not sending them to public schools, using natural medicines.
[00:32:06]  And all of that stuff is returning right now.
[00:32:08]  Integrity is how the Amish appear to have been living.
[00:32:11]  Their spiritual beliefs impacted every aspect of their lives.
[00:32:15]  And what we didn't know, it seems to me, members of the generalized culture, is that we had been groomed into believing that progress was occurring unilaterally.
[00:32:28]  Because there's obvious and observable progress when it comes to technology and medicine in some areas, we feel like we're somehow different and better than the people of antiquity.
[00:32:39]  One of the things I started to understand was that there were pagan cultures that had a relationship with their environment and the soil and their food and the cosmos and let's suppose call it what it is with God that provided them a kind of, I don't want to say safety, but meaning and purpose.
[00:33:00]  And I think it's very difficult to discover that now.
[00:33:03]  When you were talking just then, mate, I really thought, gosh, it must be really fundamental to keep people divided through cultural conflict because it's so obvious that the technology that's being used to eventually, it would seem to me, and it sounds like it's your diagnosis too, legitimize the pushing of a button.
[00:33:22]  And now we've got your biometric data.
[00:33:24]  Now we can switch off your bank account.
[00:33:26]  Now, if need be, we can have your self-drive car take you right to a police station directly without your volition.
[00:33:34]  But that same technology could be used to create the kind of sovereignty that you're saying that traditional communities always recognized.
[00:33:42]  And so do you think that the constant provocation of cultural conflict is an important part of what's happening now?
[00:33:53]  You know, I do.
[00:33:54]  I do in many ways.
[00:33:54]  And as a filmmaker with all this technology, we have filmmakers off camera right here because we're doing a project together.
[00:34:01]  I will say that, you know, the invention of AI has changed the game.
[00:34:05]  I've been doing this for over 30 years.
[00:34:07]  And there's an element of it that is just taking the game to the next level of things, audio cleanup and things that we can do now that we could never do before that I actually never saw coming.
[00:34:16]  Wow.
[00:34:17]  And so you look at that as a real plus to, it really is beneficial to the work that we do.
[00:34:23]  But at what stage, you know, are we using our technology?
[00:34:26]  And then where's that line that we cross where it starts to use us is really one of the questions we're always asking ourselves.
[00:34:32]  How far do we want to go into this?
[00:34:33]  Because if we can, you know, well, let me say this.
[00:34:37]  The thing that became really clear, COVID was a wake-up for all of us in many, many, many ways.
[00:34:44]  I believe in what we've deduced from all of our research, particularly after the release of Plandemic 1 in 2020, was that this was planned and the Epstein files have proven that, but it wasn't supposed to happen yet.
[00:34:58]  It wasn't supposed to happen in 2020.
[00:35:01]  They pulled the trigger in 2020 because every effort to stop Trump, every Russia-Russia, every impeachment thing was failing.
[00:35:10]  And so they pushed it forward.
[00:35:12]  This was a plan, but probably maybe it was supposed to happen around now.
[00:35:16]  Yeah.
[00:35:17]  And the saving grace for us all, Russell, was that all of their plan wasn't in place.
[00:35:23]  So we have outliers now.
[00:35:25]  We have states within our own country who they hadn't yet been able to install their own leadership, so they didn't play the game.
[00:35:32]  We're able to look at the data and say, well, why is it that the Dakotas did so much better?
[00:35:36]  They didn't clamp down their economies better.
[00:35:38]  They gave their citizens a choice whether you want to wear a mask or not.
[00:35:42]  Why is Africa and Sweden and all these different places where they had yet to perform these regime changes and their leadership didn't follow the game?
[00:35:52]  That's the problem when they don't have the centralization totally intact because then you get these outliers that become the case study for us to look at and go, well, hold on a second.
[00:36:01]  Why do we have less deaths there for a country that was 3% vaccinated?
[00:36:06]  We can look at that now as a case study, literally.
[00:36:09]  And so their need to perform all these regime changes where everybody is under the same control, the same centralized control, is because they need the consistent, omnipresent participation of everyone.
[00:36:24]  Then they can say, if we didn't have those outliers, a lot of us would believe COVID was successful.
[00:36:30]  Warp speed was amazing.
[00:36:31]  The vaccine worked.
[00:36:32]  How many of us would be dead without that?
[00:36:34]  But we only know that it failed, that it was a terrible, terrible crime against humanity because we have outliers that weren't centralized yet.
[00:36:42]  A lot of people still live in the reality, the managed and fabricated reality that you're describing, where wasn't warp speed a success.
[00:36:49]  And thank God that those brilliant scientists were able to engineer those vaccines.
[00:36:53]  And what a genius Anthony Fauci is.

=== Truth Over Party Allegiance (10:27) ===

[00:36:55]  And you've been a kind of an almost Zealig-like filmmaker, finding yourself in important places, important moments.
[00:37:02]  You shared with me the story about your brother earlier and some of his struggles, which seemed to have been instrumental in your perspective as a filmmaker and as an activist, if you want to use that word.
[00:37:12]  I also would love you to cover, if you don't mind, your involvement in that case where there were them young kids that were wearing, I think, like MAGA hats or Trump hats and they were at some public protest.
[00:37:26]  And the way that the story was first told was, oh, these awful children were confronting a Native American man.
[00:37:34]  And I remember that that was a very instrumental and pivotal moment in my own understanding of media and politics because I'm a kind of counterculture person.
[00:37:43]  And I like, I'm like, oh, yeah, you know, I read black elk and I recognize that the settling of these lands could be regarded as a genocide.
[00:37:53]  And that moment seemed somehow perfect.
[00:37:54]  But the way that that unraveled and the way we learned the truth of that particular story was interesting.
[00:37:59]  And you made a film about that that was pre, I think, even was influential in the outcome of the trial around it.
[00:38:03]  Would you help us?
[00:38:04]  It was, yeah.
[00:38:05]  And it actually started off quite with a different intention.
[00:38:08]  So I had been working with the Standing Rock community for about two and a half years and represented a lot of the Native American Lakota community that was wrongfully persecuted for flying drones over the Dakota access pipeline, for sitting and praying on the front line.
[00:38:25]  And so we were making these videos, these lawfare videos, to get these people released from their persecution.
[00:38:32]  And then this narrative comes out, and the narrative was: you know, this team of Catholic students from Kentucky, racist 14 and 15-year-old white boys, surrounded the Native Americans as they tried to conduct their first Indigenous Peoples March in Washington.
[00:38:51]  The truth of the matter was these kids were coming from their own march, the Right for Life march, and they were told to meet on the stairs and they were just standing there minding their own business.
[00:38:59]  And the crime was they bought red hats so that they could identify each other as they were in the march.
[00:39:06]  And they found a vendor that was selling $5 red MAGA hats.
[00:39:10]  Some of the kids had no idea even what that meant.
[00:39:12]  Wow.
[00:39:13]  Some of them did and just thought it was funny.
[00:39:15]  That was their crime.
[00:39:16]  So as soon as they were spotted on the stairs, all wearing these red hats, the Native American, this group of activists approached them, created a scenario that these kids surrounded them and started chanting, Build the Wall around these Native Americans.
[00:39:32]  So it was the perfect headline to show what Donald Trump was creating in America with now these young kids are disrespecting the original Americans and saying, let's build a wall around them.
[00:39:43]  So I was furious.
[00:39:44]  I bought it.
[00:39:45]  And we jumped in with my team.
[00:39:46]  We said, let's make a video to expose these little racists.
[00:39:49]  And it took us all of three hours to watch a one live stream that was two and a half hours long.
[00:39:56]  And I looked at my team and I said, this is bullshit.
[00:39:59]  Like these kids were set up.
[00:40:01]  They were so polite.
[00:40:02]  If they were my sons, I would have been so proud because they were trying to shake hands and saying, why do you hate us?
[00:40:08]  What have we done to you?
[00:40:09]  And the black Israelites were there on one hand calling them, you know, you crackers, you yelling racial slurs at them.
[00:40:14]  And they're saying, what?
[00:40:15]  They didn't even know it was just because of the hat.
[00:40:16]  They were saying, what did we do to you people?
[00:40:19]  So the kids were the adults in the room.
[00:40:21]  And so I looked at my team.
[00:40:22]  And at this point, like you, I come from the far progressive left.
[00:40:27]  And I knew at this point, if we make a film to expose this truth, we're going to perceive to be supporting Donald Trump at a very volatile time.
[00:40:37]  And we're never going to come back from this.
[00:40:39]  But we have to tell the truth.
[00:40:40]  And as a father of two young boys, I looked at my crew and I said, what do you want to do, guys?
[00:40:44]  We know the truth now.
[00:40:45]  And they said, let's just go for it.
[00:40:47]  And so we made the film.
[00:40:48]  It's called Nick Sandman, the Truth in 15 Minutes.
[00:40:51]  And we hit send.
[00:40:53]  And first death threats I got, suddenly, you know, this community that was once, you know, very fond of the work I did now hated me, wanted to bury me.
[00:41:02]  I actually got threats of next time you step onto this particular land, we're going to bury you.
[00:41:06]  You never leave the land.
[00:41:08]  And so I thought, wow, this is just so fragile.
[00:41:11]  This collectivism, this tribalism is like, it really requires you to agree with every ideology that they agree with.
[00:41:19]  It's not about the truth.
[00:41:20]  It's about winning.
[00:41:22]  And so we put that out.
[00:41:23]  And it turns out that the legal team that represented these boys used it in court, called me and said, we want to thank you because your video was the thing that as soon as it was shown, all the major media corporations just cashed out and paid the boys and let that case go.
[00:41:39]  Wow.
[00:41:40]  Because they were trying to actually dox these boys and trying to, they went to all of, they found out what schools these kids were applying to, colleges, and they went to the schools and threatened the schools that if they allow them into their colleges, that there would be trouble.
[00:41:54]  It got that dirty.
[00:41:55]  And so that was my first real parlay of crossing that threshold.
[00:41:59]  But the beautiful thing of it was this, is it set me free.
[00:42:02]  They said, the truth shall set you free.
[00:42:04]  And in that moment, because I had no allegiance to any party, I just thought from this point on, we can just tell the truth.
[00:42:08]  Wow.
[00:42:09]  Wow.
[00:42:09]  Yeah, that's pretty encouraging.
[00:42:13]  Some of the things I identify with in that are, well, firstly, I had a sort of similar awakening because it kind of was irresistible as a story because it sort of seemed like they, oh, they look kind of obnoxious, them kids.
[00:42:26]  You know, they're handsome or whatever.
[00:42:27]  And once you're told to look at them in that light, it's easy to look at them in that light.
[00:42:32]  But when you hear, oh, they were wearing those hats like someone just holding an umbrella aloft at Disney World so that a tour guy can see them, that changes your perspective.
[00:42:40]  And then there's something nagging in the background.
[00:42:42]  They're just kids.
[00:42:42]  They're just kids.
[00:42:44]  And then when you sort of have your frame reset, you're able to go, hold on, they're just kids anyway.
[00:42:48]  Why are we getting all excited?
[00:42:50]  What is this appetite to damn and judge that we have?
[00:42:53]  Secondly, like when I, as well, moved from like the cozy celebrity that I was in of being, oh, wow, this, like, I guess looking back, that my celebrity seemed to be about, I'm a hedonist, I'm a former drug addict, I'm sleeping around a bunch, look at me, you know, like, I don't know, showing off, being spontaneous, all that stuff.
[00:43:12]  When I got more involved in politics and started to say stuff that I'd always felt and kind of felt like I'd always said, particularly, there's no point voting, don't mean anything, whoever you vote for, you're going to end up with these same sort of institutions controlling your lives.
[00:43:26]  That's when I started to get pushback.
[00:43:27]  And what I noticed was the people that pushed back hardest and were meanest were the organizations in media that present themselves as compassionate, specifically The Guardian.
[00:43:36]  The Guardian in the UK, as their name suggests, is like a kind of a pious, hey, we're your guardian, we're going to help you to understand this from a leftist liberal perspective.
[00:43:45]  They were such bastards when I actually started to sort of stand up and say things that were politically a bit more challenging, I suppose, is one word for it.
[00:43:56]  That really sort of affects me.
[00:43:57]  Of course, as well, like you, I started to become like more engaged during the pandemic and things started to unravel and unfold.
[00:44:03]  And you sort of spot these, firstly, it's very encouraging too and bold that you had that moment with your crew where you're like, well, shall we tell the truth and recognize that now we're not coming back?
[00:44:14]  We're not going to be at that party anymore.
[00:44:16]  But what I think where we're blessed is I think that whole culture is dying.
[00:44:20]  I think that whole culture is sort of dead.
[00:44:23]  Who cares?
[00:44:24]  When you see something now like the BAFTAs or like when I first felt like I was cancelled and I would see someone like the Oscars or the BAFTAs or whatever, I'd be like, oh man, look at all that glamour and look at all that excitement.
[00:44:35]  Now I look at it and I think, nah, man, I don't want to be there.
[00:44:39]  I don't like it.
[00:44:40]  It makes me feel creeped out a little bit and it's stupid and it's dumb.
[00:44:44]  You just said something, you used the word perspective and I wanted to put a cap on the Covington students situation because it was all about perspective.
[00:44:52]  The kid that was confronted, Nick Sandman, is actually very short.
[00:44:56]  He was standing on an 18-inch stair and the perspective of him looking down that snapshot that was on the cover of everything.
[00:45:05]  And when that boy was interviewed, he actually said, because they said it's the smirk, right?
[00:45:09]  He's smirking.
[00:45:10]  Now, what was happening was he had friends behind him that were acting like 14-year-old boys, you know, because they were just being silly.
[00:45:18]  And so he was smirking because they were being funny.
[00:45:21]  But what he said was, I felt the Holy Spirit moving through me.
[00:45:25]  That drum was so powerful.
[00:45:26]  And I'd never encountered, I'd always admired Native American people.
[00:45:30]  And I'd never had that experience.
[00:45:32]  But that drum being banged in my face was really moving the Holy Spirit through me.
[00:45:36]  So it was the opposite of what the world saw.
[00:45:38]  He was having an emotional experience, respectfully, but on the stair looking down.
[00:45:43]  So he suddenly looked like this six foot four kid, you know, menacing down on this poor elderly Native American guy.
[00:45:50]  It was all perspective.
[00:45:51]  And it turns out, and we exposed him, that that Native American guy had done this before.
[00:45:55]  It's his M.O.
[00:45:56]  And then he goes on to crowdfunding sites and raises $50,000, $75,000 by playing the victim.
[00:46:03]  He's done this before.
[00:46:04]  Oh, my.
[00:46:05]  And so that's that, you know, and some of what's happened to you, I recognize, those snapshots of a moment in your life that are then blown up and publicized all over the world and they look bad.
[00:46:17]  You know, but if like that's all we see is a frame, a frame in the moment of someone's life, and the world is willing to make harsh judgments against a 15-year-old boy, knowing that he's evil and he's wicked, and having no idea of the perspective, that's what we have to get smarter as the people to realize that it's all about perspective.
[00:46:37]  And let's get the holographic point of view so we can understand the circumstance.
[00:46:44]  Because the moment I got that he was standing on this stair, and then I realized he's just this little tiny kid.
[00:46:49]  He's not menacing at all.
[00:46:50]  He's a sweetheart.
[00:46:52]  It changed everything.
[00:46:53]  Yeah, that's very interesting that they run with it because of an agenda.
[00:46:57]  Like they don't want to say, well, actually, we're standing on a stair or you've been moved by the Holy Spirit or you just put that because all those things don't fulfill the agenda.
[00:47:03]  This sort of reverse engineered component, I think, is pretty significant.
[00:47:08]  And you spot it again and again.
[00:47:10]  One of the moments too, but I noted was when I always felt as like a British person, when it comes to subjects like migration and global responsibility, the British had a massive empire.

=== The Agenda of Control (06:03) ===

[00:47:23]  their actions in India and across the continent of Africa were doubtless deleterious and have negative consequences.
[00:47:29]  And yes, that accrues a kind of debt.
[00:47:32]  And we and people fought in the British Army and the first and in particular Second World War from the colonies and stuff.
[00:47:40]  So you feel like, oh yeah, we owe people in all these different countries.
[00:47:43]  They're part of the Commonwealth.
[00:47:44]  And so the sort of slow rhythmic assumption that the British owe a debt to the world makes a kind of sense.
[00:47:53]  You can make sense of it.
[00:47:54]  And then with America, with America's contemporary political power, you can make the same argument.
[00:47:58]  Well, gosh, if it's American companies that are benefiting from these lithium mines and all these various different global activities that are required to keep the machinery of capitalism active, sort of it makes kind of sense.
[00:48:10]  And then when they, there was this beautiful moment where they applied the same narrative to Ireland, like when they said, the Irish people are racist, those imperialist colonialists.
[00:48:21]  And if you're a British person, you go, well, hold on.
[00:48:24]  Like, Ireland has been tyrannized.
[00:48:26]  They're not a colonial power.
[00:48:28]  The Irish, the Irish identity when it comes to migration, they've had to fight to stop their neighbors colonizing and controlling them.
[00:48:35]  But the exact same argument was used.
[00:48:37]  And so for a minute, you're able to spot, oh my God, hold on a second.
[00:48:41]  This whole thing is about utility.
[00:48:43]  This whole thing is about control.
[00:48:45]  I think you're spot on that the pandemic was almost a premature ejaculation of power.
[00:48:51]  That if it had happened in 2025, they'd have been ready for it.
[00:48:54]  And we'd have all been in very, very serious trouble indeed.
[00:48:58]  Because do you start to look back now at all history with the revelations in the Epstein files and wonder, firstly, what does it take to shake us from our stupor and into the kind of mutual action required to truly oppose these forces?
[00:49:14]  That's one of my questions.
[00:49:15]  And the other one is, do you start to question even the macro narratives and heroes and villains of world history?
[00:49:22]  And so I think, well, maybe it's not as simple as we'd always thought.
[00:49:26]  Maybe these people that we always thought were the goodies are not the goodies and maybe the people with all the baddies are not the baddies.
[00:49:32]  And particularly when, like, I was learning in real time during the pandemic about Anthony Fauci, mostly from reading some of Robert Kennedy's writing about Fauci's involvement in the HIV pandemic, Fauci's, like, you know, like he, when, when I was first reading Bobby Kennedy's The Real Anthony Fauci, I was like, well, this can't be true, but also this book is so dense and so full of like its proofs and QR codes of, and this is how we know that, and that's a bioweapon.
[00:49:59]  And like, as it all, like, don't you think that the age we're living in is it's collapsing time somehow.
[00:50:06]  Like, if you think of in the age of the Gutenberg press, suddenly information was available in a way that and could be disseminated in a way that it couldn't be previously.
[00:50:14]  And that changed history.
[00:50:15]  It changed religion.
[00:50:16]  It changed power.
[00:50:18]  And now the diaspora of information is so rapid that the center can't hold together.
[00:50:23]  And I alluded to, mentioned at least your brother's, your family's personal involvement when it comes to Fauci's history and the HIV virus, which at the time we were told that one of the reasons we should trust Anthony Fauci, he was presented to us as a kind of celebrity kind of doctor.
[00:50:38]  And he was kind of sexy and fantastic and stuff.
[00:50:41]  It was weird, actually, looking back at it.
[00:50:43]  But his involvement with HIV was not so, forgive the word positive so soon after HIV, as we were told it was at the time.
[00:50:52]  Well, you know, a lot of people ask me, how did you have a film ready and launched May 4th of 2020?
[00:51:00]  And the answer is really easy.
[00:51:01]  And that's the moment I saw Anthony Fauci at the helm of the pandemic response, I knew it was going to be disastrous.
[00:51:08]  And the reason is I knew his history.
[00:51:09]  He killed my brother with a drug called AZT.
[00:51:12]  When this came out, my brother had lived with AIDS for about eight or ten years and he was in perfect health.
[00:51:16]  He was fine.
[00:51:17]  And then suddenly this medicine came out and said, you know, if the people start taking this medicine, even the people that don't have full-blown AIDS, it's going to go away and their quality of life is going to return and they're going to be healed.
[00:51:29]  This is a miracle drug, AZT.
[00:51:31]  And my brother starts to take it and he gets worse.
[00:51:34]  And his quality of life, he starts looking bad.
[00:51:36]  He's skinny.
[00:51:37]  He loses all of his muscle mass.
[00:51:40]  He's, you know, just puking every single day, can't get out of bed, migraine headaches.
[00:51:44]  He becomes incredibly miserable.
[00:51:46]  My mom starts to call the doctors and says, I think this medicine's making him worse.
[00:51:52]  And they said, no, no, no, Jackie, no, no.
[00:51:54]  This is just his body acclimating to the medicine.
[00:51:56]  But you do understand that Anthony Fauci is like America's number one doctor and this guy's way ahead of the curve.
[00:52:01]  And so you need to follow the science.
[00:52:03]  And just what you said, too, my mom had a moment where she went, he's surrounded by Liza Minelli and Elton John and all these people.
[00:52:08]  They'd love him and trust him.
[00:52:10]  And he must be a really incredible human being.
[00:52:13]  And then my brother's gay community started to call my mom and say, Jackie, it's the medicine that's killing everyone.
[00:52:19]  Please take David off of this medicine.
[00:52:22]  She'd go back to the doctor once again, Jackie, if you take your son off this drug right now, he will die.
[00:52:27]  And so she left him on there.
[00:52:29]  Now, my mom was a cancer survivor for many, many, many years.
[00:52:32]  So she left him on there, despite the fact that my brother's withering into a skeleton.
[00:52:37]  And then he dies, gets pneumonia and dies.
[00:52:40]  She was so grief-strucken that, as I mentioned to you earlier, really taught me about the power of our will to live, how strong that is.
[00:52:47]  It's why elderly people, when one goes a few days later, months, weeks later, the other one goes.
[00:52:53]  My mom allowed the cancer to take her within 30 days.
[00:52:57]  So we buried my brother.
[00:52:58]  34 days later, we buried my mom.
[00:53:00]  And so this is at a time, I'm 23 years old.
[00:53:03]  I wasn't a researcher at the time, no internet, didn't know what to do about it except for to grieve.
[00:53:08]  And I just left to Hollywood.
[00:53:09]  I just like, I got to get away from all of this.
[00:53:11]  I don't know what I want to do in Hollywood exactly.
[00:53:13]  And I just got on the bus, basically, rarely in a U-Haul truck, and drove to Hollywood and lived at the Magic Hotel for about a year.
[00:53:21]  And that's, and got in front of the camera for a little bit and realized I really don't want to be in front of the camera.

=== A Corrupted Holy Word (06:22) ===

[00:53:26]  I found myself paying attention to the cinematographers and what a divine blessing, right?
[00:53:32]  Because then I started doing the work that I'm doing now.
[00:53:37]  But absolutely everything, coming back to your question, everything that has power has been corrupted.
[00:53:45]  And we have to realize that.
[00:53:46]  And if everything that has power has been corrupted, how has the Holy Word been corrupted?
[00:53:51]  And I've been releasing a lot of data.
[00:53:53]  And I don't know if you've seen it, but I'll send it to you.
[00:53:55]  Are you familiar with dispensationalism and John Nelson Darby and C.I. Schofield?
[00:53:59]  As a Christian, this is probably the most important thing you can know.
[00:54:03]  So in the late, mid, mid, yeah, mid, actually 1839 or so, a man named John Nelson Darby took the word dispensationalism out of the Bible, redefined it, and created a framework that allowed for them to suggest that God's word means something different in these different dispensations.
[00:54:23]  A man named C.I. Schofield took that information, that framework, in the early 1900s and created the Schofield Reference Bible.
[00:54:32]  Funded by Oxford, that Bible was pushed to every Western pastor hard.
[00:54:38]  And it turned it from a loving, unifying message of Jesus into a doom and gloom end times prophecy, where God's original word was, anyone who shall believe in Christ will be blessed into the chosen people and only Israel will be blessed.
[00:54:58]  That is where the translation happened.
[00:55:01]  And when you study that, which right now there's a mass awakening, Christians all over understanding that they've been studying dispensationalism and not Christianity.
[00:55:10]  And so that's one of the most important things for us to wake up to so we can feel the true, the true holy love of that of that holy word.
[00:55:19]  I've got an inkling that I'll know where the funding for that interpretation may have come from.
[00:55:25]  That's not going to take too much time to investigate.
[00:55:29]  So, oh man, yeah, that's pretty cool because, see, the media is meant to be a sort of a transparent conduit that here is the information.
[00:55:38]  Anytime you detect in media an inflection, then it's doing a different job.
[00:55:44]  Government, I suppose the word tells you that it's about control, but really what we require are merely administrators.
[00:55:52]  The entire function of government is what needs to alter.
[00:55:55]  The center of our whole culture must be God.
[00:56:00]  Even if there is some debate about what the nature of God is, that's in fact something that people are going to have to, we're going to have to afford one another that or live in a perpetual state of Armageddon.
[00:56:12]  That's the other option, which is not favorable.
[00:56:14]  And to your point about the Holy Word, what because I've come to Christ late and I've come to Christ via drug addiction, I've come to Christ via psychedelics, I've come to Christ via crisis, I've come to Christ via anti-establishment political thought, secular ideology, shamanism, sex magic.
[00:56:33]  All of these things that I've done first absolutely for me made me feel that the reason I'm not, you know, if someone had told me that Schofield Bible stuff prior to my conversion, I've gone, yeah, you better believe it.
[00:56:47]  This is yet another tool for conformity.
[00:56:49]  By its fruit shall you know it.
[00:56:51]  If the result of people becoming Christian is they become obedient little prisoners of the system, then you know what its function was.
[00:56:58]  But because I came to when I did and how I did, which increasingly I reckon is, I learned the word theophany.
[00:57:05]  Theophany is like, as you can hear in the sound, like Epiphany, but like the sudden appearance of God, which I'm not making any particular or individual claim for, just in the crisis of my life, in the moment that you're sort of aware of, it came so fast and radical and peculiar and like sort of an upward sudden rush of realization, he's real.
[00:57:30]  It's all real.
[00:57:32]  And like, so that when I started to read the Bible, like in particular, say something like the book of Acts, where what's interesting about the book of Acts is he's not there no more.
[00:57:41]  Jesus isn't there in the flesh no more.
[00:57:44]  But what you're dealing with is human beings, recognizable somehow, identifiable human beings.
[00:57:49]  Like, oh my God, like I've just had the experience of like what I know it would feel like because I have felt it to know God.
[00:57:56]  And then like the urgent, we've got to deal with this right now, right now.
[00:58:00]  It's a media and it's urgent.
[00:58:02]  It's evangelical and it's passionate and it's precisely and deliberately non-pharisaic, non-centrally controlled, not about tradition.
[00:58:11]  In fact, you know, when you then subsequently read the Gospels, you realize his number one beef is with the people that are saying, listen, we're in charge of it.
[00:58:17]  We broke of this.
[00:58:17]  We mediate it.
[00:58:18]  This is how to do it.
[00:58:19]  You're not doing it properly.
[00:58:20]  Shut up.
[00:58:21]  He hates those people.
[00:58:22]  Those are the people that he's like, I've got no truck with you, lot.
[00:58:26]  And so what I feel about him is that, you know, it's difficult.
[00:58:31]  The paradox that I find hard to manage is that it's all done.
[00:58:34]  It's all already done.
[00:58:35]  And yet he has created us.
[00:58:36]  He has created us and he has created us for purpose.
[00:58:39]  And I feel that the purpose comes when, when you detect him in you, then you know what you're supposed to do.
[00:58:45]  And my personal experience as a pretty broken and fallen person is I migrate continually back to the old problem, self.
[00:58:52]  That all these things that we're talking about, institutional corruption, they all have a correlative in me.
[00:58:56]  I am like the corrupted media telling people the version of events I want.
[00:59:01]  I am like the government wanting to be in absolute control of what everyone does at any given time.
[00:59:07]  I am like the licentiousness of Hollywood, wanting everything for me.
[00:59:11]  I am greedy.
[00:59:12]  I am Glanus, as Chester and said, I am the problem.
[00:59:15]  I am the problem.
[00:59:16]  Unless that whole I becomes one with him, unified in him, then I'm just another little nodule of corruption and hypocrisy in this world.
[00:59:24]  And what's happened to me is through no choice of my own, the hand reached out, grabbed me, and now I'm here.
[00:59:31]  And it's extraordinary that this is the time where I can most feel the presence of evil, most see the presence of evil.
[00:59:38]  But it's also, there's a comfort in it, man.
[00:59:40]  Like everything, when I was like, I was praying about you lot coming today, I was thinking, you're all like, you couldn't organize this.
[00:59:47]  You didn't organize this.

=== Launching Rumble Wallet (03:37) ===

[00:59:49]  It's happening.
[00:59:49]  Like, what's going on?
[00:59:51]  What's going on?
[00:59:52]  This is all what the devil intends for evil.
[00:59:54]  He will use for good.
[00:59:55]  Same as the pandemic.
[00:59:56]  Same as the pandemic.
[00:59:59]  It will be used to the Lord, infinitely creative, infinitely spontaneous, as he does throughout his mission.
[01:00:05]  He will go, oh, this is what's coming, is it?
[01:00:07]  He will jujitsu that right into revelation, education, revolution, maybe, you know, certainly revelation in the terms of apocalypse.
[01:00:17]  And that's where we find ourselves now.
[01:00:18]  Thank you so much for that conversation.
[01:00:21]  Thank you for your great work.
[01:00:22]  I'm very excited to be collaborating.
[01:00:24]  Which films do you think we most want to direct people to?
[01:00:26]  Certainly I'm super invested in Joby Weeks because I've become friends with him since watching your movie about him.
[01:00:31]  What else should people watch?
[01:00:33]  Go to Plandemic.com.
[01:00:35]  All the Plandemic series there is free, plus a lot of the other lawfare films I mentioned here today.
[01:00:40]  They're all free.
[01:00:41]  And I have a new platform under MickeyWillis.com, M-I-K-K-I.
[01:00:45]  And there's a program called Decode the Narrative, where every Thursday night I have a call with a few hundred or thousand people or something.
[01:00:50]  Oh, that's cool.
[01:00:51]  And we start to decode the narratives that are unfolding before.
[01:00:53]  Oh, that sounds good.
[01:00:54]  I like that.
[01:00:55]  I like something that.
[01:00:55]  And you do something with Robert Malone as well, Dr. Robert Malone.
[01:00:58]  Tonight, yeah, that's Decode the Narrative tonight.
[01:01:00]  We've got him.
[01:01:01]  Robert Malone is my guest, Dr. Robert Malone.
[01:01:03]  This will be going out Monday.
[01:01:04]  You'll be able to find that on Mickey's website.
[01:01:07]  He's just giving you details.
[01:01:08]  There's a link in the description.
[01:01:10]  Thanks a lot.
[01:01:10]  Thank you so much, Russell.
[01:01:11]  Yeah, that's great.
[01:01:12]  That was great.
[01:01:13]  All right.
[01:01:13]  Thank you.
[01:01:13]  We're going to be back in a minute after this.
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[01:02:45]  As you can see, we've lost Joe.
[01:02:47]  We can only assume he's out in some terrible Kazbar somewhere in Morocco trying to claim a monkey.
[01:02:54]  We'll get more from him next time.
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[01:02:58]  Thanks to Mickey Willis.
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[01:03:02]  In particular, of course, Pandemic, if you've not seen it.
[01:03:05]  And we'll be back with Crack On next time.
[01:03:09]  Not with more of the same, but with more of the different.
[01:03:12]  Until then, thanks for joining us.
[01:03:14]  Look at me now.
[01:03:14]  I love this light now.
[01:03:15]  We've got to keep, we've got to look at that.
[01:03:17]  And this is incredible.
[01:03:18]  Put it there.
[01:03:20]  Put it here.
[01:03:21]  Hey, baby.
[01:03:22]  Thank you so much for joining us.
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