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Tommy Robinson: Silenced – Watch With Us - SF604
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Ladies and gentlemen, Russell Brand and Russell Russell Alvin trying to bring real journalism to the American people.
Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.
Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand Watch Along and what a controversial watch along it is.
So we'll have to determine when we're leaping off of YouTube because today we're looking at Tommy Robinson's documentary about, well, there's several aren't there.
There's ones where he exposes that the media appeared to collude with various sources and resources in order to create allegations against him, as well as his now notorious investigations about rape gangs in the UK.
And now that there is an inquiry into rape gangs in the UK, after the government assured the British people there would not be one and there was no requirement for one, we are entering a new political era.
I.e.
if Tommy Robinson hadn't made that documentary and Elon Musk hadn't reposted it on X, this investigation that's happening in the UK would not be happening.
Let me know in the comments and chat what that informs you and us when it comes to the new political era that we are entering.
I.e.
we no longer live in the age where political institutions and media institutions can absolutely control outcomes even when it comes to explicitly political matters like government inquiries.
Let me know too if you believe that it was a scandal that this rape gang inquiry wasn't undertaken earlier and do you think that possibly the constant condemnation and smearing that Tommy Robinson is the recipient of is somewhat as a result of his position on these matters and do you believe that it's possible to have a cohesive society in the West where British Muslims,
British Christians, British atheists and Jews might live harmoniously together and how do you manage the complex issues of migration and nation?
I.e.
if you have a nation you've got to have borders you've got to have a flag you've got to have a set of cohesive beliefs where are they derived from as people dismantle religious ideology in favor of globalism and statism people drift towards individualistic nihilistic despair all of this and more we'll be discussing with our team so if you're not on rumble premium yet get rumble premium now will be on youtube and x for the first 20 30 minutes or so depending on the censorship that this content uh receives because tommy robinson's often exorcised from a
lot of social media platforms with me today is the producer of the show known by many simply as the man in the hat it's jake smith all right jake we're doing it again another week another week of deep inquiry into significant matters with like there are these are some of the subjects and let me know in the comments and chat what you want to see us discuss the clinton suicides i mean no no that's not that that's not how we phrase it it's called it's just actually people that know the clintons that commit suicide by coincidence or die just a kill list just a simple kill list
it's just a simple kill list i mean we can like look we can talk to chat gbt about this like you know like it's not uh chat uh chat chat gbt do you is there is there an inordinate number of people that know bill and hillary clinton that have subsequently ended their own lives please let me know i love this bit also with me is masi our uh beloved iranian contributor you all right massey look
forward to watching this that's a pretty complex and controversial topic and a lot of claims about it tend to circulate online it's always good to look into credible sources but accurate information and hey massey hope you're doing great now uh chat gbt what do you think about tommy tommy tommy tommy robinson and his uh documentary into rape gangs and what do you think it tells us that there is now going to be an inquiry into rape gangs subsequent to tommy robinson's documentary and
its reposting on x after the british government have said that there wasn't going to be an inquiry previously what do you think about that chat gpt old chum that's definitely a heavy topic tommy robinson's documentaries have sparked a lot of debate um and definitely brought attention to certain issues it's interesting that uh there's now going to be an inquiry uh especially after the initial resistance it really shows the power of public discourse and media in influencing government decisions good
work there chat gpt and also is jesus real ask him what would he take for a salary to join our team because just full-time would you come and work with us full-time chat gpt do we have to pay you additionally beyond my subscription well i'm always here to help as part of your subscription so no extra salary needed uh and as for whether jesus is real that definitely comes down to personal belief and
faith if you ever want to chat more about any of that i'm here i do uh thank you i love you um also luke is joining us our social media and marketing manager you're right luke are you enjoying that conversation oh i'm feeling great baby jesus is alive another day jesus is alive he's taking over look i'm in charge it's vital that i'm given the authority to run this podcast we had this yesterday when we were talking about if you see if you watch that back here massey the other one we did with him we did an amazing
one me and chat gpt yesterday and i'm afraid chat gpt we did a sort of we did a video of russell brand unpacked in fact have a look at it now this is russell brand unpacked when we talk about that man who's uh proposed his ai it's pretty amazing actually we uh me and chat gpt hosted it together chat gpt keeps sort of stepping on my toes here's a look at that now they have a two-year-old daughter murphy i knew that
he had used ai i didn't know that it was like as deep as it was do you think the news will ask him if he's masturbated in front of it and is that where this is going and like is there a point where it's like oh would you pull up these images and what would you do to me i mean where does this go where are the boundaries a good amount of my members tend to have pretty high libidos yes Well, how do you exercise your libido with binary?
Maybe non-binary.
Also with me is Isaac Starr of Asker Jew.
How's it going, Isaac?
You're right, mate.
I'm good.
I'm good.
Thank you.
Oh, look how sweet he is.
Thank you.
What a lovely young man.
A beautiful wife and a wonderful son.
Beautiful, lovely citizen.
Okay, so let's have a look at Tommy Robinson's documentary.
Just so you know, I'm a working-class British person myself, even though I've been through the annals, yes, and I use the word deliberately, of Hollywood.
I still feel very connected to my roots and where I come from.
My personal prayer and belief is that British people of all religious identities and races can come together to oppose the globalist establishment forces that seek to castrate British power and British identity.
Britain is for the British.
British people have always been welcoming and open-hearted, embracing people and willing to go to war and lay down their lives in the holy name of righteousness.
So perhaps Tommy Robinson has a great contribution to how Britain can reorganise, reorder, maybe even reform its identity in the coming years.
Let's have a look at this controversial documentary from a working class journalist.
And that's what the left used to always say they wanted.
The intelligentsia said, how do we engage the working classes?
Well, let me tell you, the working classes are engaged now, and they don't like you.
Let's have a look.
It's definitely interesting to see how different perspectives and voices...
This story is far bigger than Tommy Robinson.
This is about the weaponisation and the politicization of these buildings.
Court buildings across the West.
The Royal Courts of Justice, ironically named.
These buildings have been weaponised and used against members of the public to destroy them if they speak out.
From Donald Trump to Steve Bannon to Gert Fielders to Marie Le Pen to Katie Hopkins.
That's what's happening.
My job as a journalist, I stand for freedom of speech, I stand for freedom of press.
And I failed because three years ago when I lost a court case in here and they bankrupted me to the tune of £1.6 million on a documentary, you're going to see the entire story was a lie.
I failed because I should have come out of court and I should have played you that film.
Why didn't I play you that film?
Because I was given a gagging order by this building, by this judge.
I was silenced and I allowed them to silence me because I was scared.
I was scared of two years in prison.
I was scared of the effect that solitary confinement for that length of time would have on me.
I was scared of jihadi gangs in jail and I was scared of the effect it would have on my family.
I failed me and I failed you.
I'm not going to fail myself again.
You're now going to watch the best citizen journalism and the most incredible expose of the establishment you've ever seen.
Interesting musical choice.
I missed a saxophone.
If you're a regular viewer of our show, you will know that we like some library archive of saxophone to illustrate nocturnal tension.
The news is how we find out what's happening in the world.
It's how we form our opinions.
Opinions based on facts.
That's the key.
Facts.
Facts should be delivered to you by journalists based on the truth.
But what if what they're delivering you isn't the truth?
What if it's stories that are manipulated to make you think a certain way, to follow a certain narrative, different people's agendas?
And what do they do to those who go against that mainstream narrative?
Those who try to expose the truth?
This is a documentary about the lengths they will go to to shut down and silence anyone from bringing you, the British public, the truth.
I lost my job over this.
Non-disclosure business.
He's a nasty little piece of shit.
Swung the hockey stick over his head and hit me in the spine with it.
I love England, man.
It's just nice to be reminded of English people when you don't live there no more.
He's a nasty little piece of shit.
I just love, like, when I've lived in America for a long period of time, when I come back, it's just lovely to hear the way British people talk.
You fucking wanker.
Here's he going, you old josper.
Where does wanker rank in the, you know, like the C-word?
Okay, let's do this cursing league tables of the UK.
The C-word is, I know that.
Okay, your upper echelons of cursing.
There's no question that cunt is king when it comes to cursing.
In Australia, anyone that's traveled widely will know that the word cunt in Australia is the same as basic.
Hello.
Hello.
It's just not even an expletive.
But in the UK, it's a curse word.
In America, it's extremely rude.
I would say next you've got fuck and fuck derivatives like motherfucker.
Then you've got your sort of mid-range curse words.
You know, shit, piss, bollocks.
You put piss in the same.
You put piss in that?
I think piss and shit are the same.
But you can also take the piss.
Yeah, that's right.
I think that's a good idea.
That's different, right?
Wanker, being sort of its own kind, given that it's vernacular and parochial, like, I think it's a separate category.
I mean, you couldn't say wanker at school.
If you called a teacher at school, you wanker, you're in a lot of trouble.
But I think, like, it's British only.
The thing is, with the success of American culture, the fact is that most of your curse words are global.
I think sometimes we're limited in the words we can pull from, you know?
So the curse words seem to be like a next level that you could say if I want to add a little more emphasis to it.
Wanker is very popular in the Rumble chat.
It's a great, well, it would be, wouldn't it?
I mean, it's because it comes up as a subject.
I have to tell them, stop wanking, you lot.
Pack it in in the sort of in the literal.
There's literal wanker.
You got any Hebrew curse words to add?
Benzona.
Benzona.
Is that for wanking?
Oh.
That sounds like a cream you put on, like, if you're sore.
Yes, yes.
But I actually had a question.
In the UK, aren't they allowed to broadcast like talk and shit like on the TV, like the BBC or any of the no?
Then why is it that?
Not before the watershed.
Because I've seen a lot of people.
Before the watershed, isn't it, Russell?
We've got a watershed.
You don't know about the watershed?
Oh, you gotta respect the watershed?
The watershed?
That's 9 p.m.
After the watershed.
Here's the fucking news, you shit cunts.
It is.
It's a time.
Yeah, yeah, there's a time.
See, in the United States, there is no time you can unless you're on, like, HBO subscription.
Yeah, there's like a there's adult swim.
Adult swim is where like they still bleep it.
Oh, do they?
Yeah, they're not allowed to have like the hard expletives, like only when they release it on streaming or on a subsequent platform, not like on the air, because the FCC like bans it.
They're not allowed.
Can you imagine how upset Tommy Robinson will be if he's watching this, expecting like a sort of an earnest critique of his work as a documentary maker?
And if the British people now that are sort of craving revolution, at least radical change, and are hoping that we can have a conversation where the British working class and members of other communities can find a way to live harmoniously together, to honour the electorate, to honour the results of the Brexit referendum, to honour the obvious wishes of a significant number of British people to manage migration seriously and sensibly.
And then they tune into this, thinking Russell Brand, perhaps he's the person that can bring together the old establishment left, this new emergent populism, and highlight leaders in British politics.
And they come over here and what we're talking about is Wanker and Watershed.
Watershed Wankers, our new show.
I'd say to bring it all back around is if you get rid of that sweet lady, then the UK changes, right?
If you don't have that, if she can't say that, and you go, man, that's nostalgic.
And you just say everybody needs to look a certain way and not have those moments.
Little piece of shit.
Yeah, you need those.
That's like for us in Louisiana, those Cajun ladies, you know, like you need those Cajun ladies.
I like them people from Louisiana where you're from that have got some mad accent that like Pops has it.
Yeah, it's a Cajun.
It's a Cajun accent.
You need that.
You need that.
Like that, they talk.
I don't know what he's saying.
I think it was get out of my hospital room.
All right, let's crack on with Tommy.
Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, Robinson.
This kid was out unconscious already.
That's just malicious.
You're not going back.
No, because what you're doing, I know what you're doing.
Tommy, I am going to mince your kids, mate.
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You lunatic you.
This is a documentary about the unholy alliance between the media, the justice system and our politicians.
How they conspire to suppress free speech, how they pervert democracy and how the truth and your freedoms are just two of the casualties.
We will show how the mainstream media deceives people, how they ignore the truth, how the lies the virtue signal in BBC, ITV and Channel 4 are all about their poisonous agenda, no matter the cost to innocent people.
It's also a documentary about how an everyday playground incident between two young lads was spun into global news at a terrible cost to so many people, not least the two young lads themselves.
We will show how the law is being abused, how people driven by hateful ideologies attempt to intimidate and silence anyone who dares to challenge the so-called progressive, so-called liberal narrative.
We will show the foolishness of our fear-driven political leaders who jump I actually think it's pretty good so far.
I think he's a good communicator.
This is like a side of Tommy Robinson that I've not seen before when I've seen him on Jordan Peterson and stuff like that.
The thing is, is I think I feel like a lot of people sense Tommy's got a kind of a febrile, kind of edgy, like lightweight boxers kind of pugilistic stance and tone to him.
But I think he's a good communicator and I think he speaks for a lot of people.
What I've always hoped as a person that's lived in areas with a high Muslim population is that there's a way to recognize and reconcile that people of the same economic and social class, regardless of their ideological Beliefs and racial backgrounds can live harmoniously.
I would say that's probably within the context of honoring a country's origins.
And I'd say that whether you're talking about Japan or Syria or Britain, if a culture is built up, that culture should be honored, and people that live in that culture should be free to express their own cultural values, except where those cultural values are at odds with the native culture.
I would say that if I was going to go and live in Japan, I am a refugee, a migrant, albeit one that's blessed to live in the free state of Florida.
So I wonder how this conversation can evolve and unfold.
And so far, I think that Tommy Robinson is communicating very well.
Let me know what you guys think in the comments and chat.
Jumped on a story, took a side without knowing the truth.
Or worse still, knowing it but hiding it.
Because the truth didn't fit their narrative.
Yes, Mercy, mate.
Say about his communicating, but like, let's be honest, when it comes to the UK, people don't like the way he communicates.
There's a massive class divide in the UK, which he's a working class gazer kind of thing.
And people immediately put people like that down.
Whenever I speak to anyone about Tommy Robinson, if ever he comes up, they'll always say he's a Nazi, he's a this, he's a that.
And I'm like, oh yeah, tell me more.
And they can't tell me more.
And it all comes down to the way he speaks, the way he behaves.
Yeah, but I would say I agree with you.
But I would say that here in this documentary, doing his bit to camera, that this isn't the same as when you see him sometimes on a podcast and he seems a little bit amped up.
Now, in a way, I identify with if Tommy Robinson feels like he's under attack, he is under attack.
This is someone who's been under attack most of his life as he's tried to work out how to express that where he's from in Luton, it seems like there's a hostility between the working class white people and as he always says, Sikhs and black folk and the Muslim population.
Now, I've always been sympathetic to British Muslims in particular because I note that whenever communities are turned against one another, both of those communities lose and the establishment benefits.
So what my interest is in Tommy Robinson is that he's an authentic working class voice that I believe ought be supported.
And even in the areas where I reckon I would disagree with him, I would like to see if there are ways to advance the conversation without getting into jingoism, xenophobia or other difficult territories.
But what I'm mindful of is that perhaps a lot of things I think about Tommy Robinson might have come from the appraisal I've received from watching legacy media and from a lot of people's, as you point out, Massey, biases towards people that speak how he does.
If you're an American, you won't be aware of the nuances around class, but our little light-hearted conversation about vernacular slang and cursing earlier is a kind of indication of some of the unique aspects of British cultural life, which is still an old establishment country with a deep, steeped tradition when it comes to power.
We have a royal family.
We have a king.
I don't know if that's a good thing anymore or not when I look at some of the alternatives.
But when you look at the American establishment, in some senses, it's a global establishment because American global imperialism is corporate and commercial in nature.
And the British establishment has sort of deep, deep roots, deep, deep bloodlines.
Plant like Lancashire, Yorkshire, the plant, like there are old families and old ideas and old institutions that are quite difficult, even if you live there to understand.
I suppose because we grew up in the fog of it.
But, you know, what I'm saying is, is that there's something different about the way he's communicating here to how I see him when he feels like he's under attack because he's under attack.
And I know what that's like because I feel like I've been in the dock for years, you know?
Yeah, I think core values are important to see, like, how would you rank what's important to you?
So if fairness is really important to you, then you might go, this guy's not fair or equal.
But if authenticity is important to you, then you'd go, I like this guy.
So like the read that I get from just watching him talk, I go, I like this guy.
Whether you believe or agree with everything that he says, you at least know that seems to be authentically who he is.
I reckon increasingly, Jake, that metric will become significant that you might say, I don't agree with that person, but at least they're telling the truth.
At least they're authentic.
Like say someone like in British politics like Jeremy Corbyn, like whether you agree with him or not, he's authentic and he's telling you the truth.
And he's not just someone who's trying to make a bunch of money out of politics.
You know, then there are other figures like Nigel Farage.
In a way, we're going to have to see, I think, in the UK in particular, new consortiums, new alliances, new political affiliations, or we'll continue to yield to what he sort of, he parenthesized and sort of verbally italicized words like progressive and liberal, because those words are not about progressing and they're certainly not about freedom.
They're ways of couching a conversation to ensure maximum bureaucratic power and division among the people that could most likely oppose institutional elitism.
Let's crack on.
Because the truth didn't fit their narrative, regardless of the human cost.
And we'll ask three important questions.
Firstly, is the media accountable to anyone in any way for what they report?
Years after the Leviton inquiry, has anything changed or do they continue to act with impunity?
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Secondly, is our legal system still fit for purpose?
We will show how lawyers who hate Britain but love jihadi warriors have weaponised the law system against us and how the legal system really only works for the rich.
And finally, how do we keep our politicians accountable?
If the police, the courts and the state can silence anyone for speaking inconvenient truths.
Truths that may raise questions about government policy.
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*Music*
Our story appears to start and end in a brief playground incident at Almondbury Community School in Huddersfield.
A playground scuffle.
One boy pulled a bottle of water on another child, the school dealt with it, and that should have been that.
Three weeks later, however, a video clip of the incident surfaced and within hours, with the help of lawyers and the ignorant rantings of ITV's Piers Morgan and the BBC's Jeremy Vine, it was made into global news event.
And the lives of so many people were turned upside down.
Such playground incidents happen every day.
So why was this spat between two boys transformed into global news?
Well, one of the boys was white and the other a Syrian refugee.
At which point the truth of the matter was buried beneath an avalanche of agendas and opportunism.
Within hours, the race hate brigade was sharpening their blades.
Clearly when somebody comes from Syria fleeing Assad's regime, coming to a place like this, when they get treated that way, that's an issue.
And the whole world is looking at it.
Where are we?
We're in Almondbury.
Do I say the scene of the incident?
Is it a scene in the incident?
It's the scene of the great lie.
I'll call it the great lie.
One of the things you might want to pay attention to is the evident poverty in the background.
And that for me tells a story that's important in British cultural life.
When you're looking at, say, a mayor running in New York now under apparent progressive socialist policies, free school lunches, free this, free that, people will focus on his cultural values and what his views are on, say, queer or transgender politics.
And those things are interesting in a variety of ways, I suppose.
But when you look at the wealth inequality in the UK and in your country and the transfer of wealth that took place in the pandemic, it shows me, and I hope you feel this as well, that there's an opportunity for alliances for people that are, hmm, let's say working ordinary people across the world.
I'm not talking about socialism.
I'm not talking about empowering the state.
I'm talking about empowering people.
I'm talking about decentralization.
I'm saying if there are people that want to live in communities that their value system is informed by Islam, they should be able to run their communities on that basis.
If there are people that want to live traditional Christian lives, they should be able to run their communities on that basis.
Now, I suppose the problem begins when there is opposition between those communities or who is in charge of a particular place or a particular space.
But I think that's an easier problem to resolve through communication, through diplomacy, if you acknowledge that the way that the state and the media behave heightens and increases those tensions rather than decreasing them.
Let me know what you think about that in the comments and chat.
I'm not suggesting these are difficult, easy problems to solve.
Of course they're not.
They're difficult, but they are easier to solve than us imagining that centralized bureaucracies and corporate and commercial entities care about anything other than increasing the economic disparity that you can see in the background of that shot.
He's walking past the home.
We skip out the front, like a sort of, I guess you would call it a dumpster.
And that for me is an important aspect of this story.
People are poor, scrambling around for resources, living in desperation.
And I reckon we'll see a lot more of that in this documentary.
Scene of the Great Lie.
I'll call it the Great Lie because this lie was pushed around the globe.
This here is the school where the world was told a Syrian refugee was waterboarded by a racist English bully.
I was in a playing field here.
And do you know what?
This is the first time I've been here.
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We're going to be watching a little more of Tommy Robinson's documentary.
Have a look.
It's the school where the world was told a Syrian refugee was waterboarded by a racist English bully.
I was in a playing field here and you know what?
This is the first time I've been here because when this blew up on the news.
Notice world that schools look like prisons now as well.
Like I know in a lot of American schools you've got to have metal detectors and stuff like that.
What's going on there man?
Like are these institutions working?
Time I've been here.
Because when this blew up on the news it's a child's school.
Kids are in school.
I didn't come outside here.
You'd see the scenes outside here where the Imam was here with mobs of men.
Yeah?
Mobs of Muslim men.
Extremists traveled up from London, such as Ali Dawah, to cause a scene outside this kids' school.
Anyway, but I'm here.
Why am I here?
I'm here because I face a court case.
I'm being prosecuted.
It's gone to the high court and I have to prove I made a video stating that it was a lie, stating that Jamal wasn't innocent and telling some facts about Jamal beating up girls, an instance that I'd been warned about by the members of this community to tell the truth about what happened at this school.
I've got to prove it in court.
So I've come to Huddersfield.
I'm now going to knock.
I need to find witnesses.
I've got addresses for many.
I need to knock and talk to them and see who I can get to come to court to help me prove to you, the public.
This is about as much as proving in court as proving to you, the British public, that I was the only journalist in the country who told the truth about what happened in this community.
The story you were told.
You were told that a vulnerable Syrian child refugee had been bullied and waterboarded by a nasty white boy.
You were told it was a racist attack.
You were told of the dangers of far-right extremism.
You were invited to agree that this kind of intolerance could not be tolerated.
Was he vulnerable?
Was it a racist attack?
Our evidence shows the answers to both these questions was no.
Was the Syrian lad waterboarded?
Why was this word used?
What about this?
Was that waterboarding?
Take a look at this.
It shows a group of non- Oh man, school's terrifying.
I'm so glad I'm not in school anymore.
Do you remember school?
Do you remember school?
Like having to have a fight?
Like go over to the park, have a route?
Oh, I'm so glad that's over.
Terrifying, awful school.
It shows a group of non-white children beating up a white girl.
It went viral online, but it wasn't touched by the mainstream media.
It wasn't made into a global story.
Why not?
Meanwhile, the usual suspects had lit the fire and were gleefully stoking the flames.
Everybody was exposing the scumbag that did this, who I hope gets severe retribution.
And of course, the politicians.
They're always quick to jump on the bandwagon.
Theresa May, Sajit Javid, Nas Shah, Nicholas Soames, Winston Churchill's grandson.
Such moral outrage.
And it's not just the media and the politicians.
In today's Twitter and Facebook-driven worlds where celebrities and groups compete to virtue signal, most of them driven by the warm feeling they get by expressing their moral outrage or by fear.
The fear of what might happen to them if they don't.
Everyone who's anyone pumped the Bailey Jamal story.
Boxers, Lennox Lewis, Huddersfield Football Club, celebrities from across the globe.
Let's have a look at all of the celebrities and blue tick brigade who pumped the Jamal story.
And here are some of the people who pumped the story you watched earlier of the white girl getting beaten up.
Sadly, whether it's politicians, celebrities or other groups, none of them are wise enough or pause long enough to ask whether they have the whole story.
To check the facts, to find the truth.
But why let the truth get in the way of such a good story?
And this story was just too good a story.
Two Lads in a Playground scrap is not international news.
But racist, white thug, waterboards, helpless Syrian refugee, boom!
Racism can't be tolerated, beware of the far right.
That's their kind of story.
We'll hear more about the militant left later, but they clearly weren't gonna miss out on this.
We're in a room, we're in a room.
Representing might be too harsh a word, but I'm here as a concerned citizen.
Muhammad Amim Pandor, a Mufti on a mission.
He rushed to Almanbury from his mosque in Bati, a town at the far end of the district.
In fact, there's 40 mosques closer to this school.
But perhaps Mufti Pandor had his own agenda.
You see, his little brother Councillor Shabir Pandor is the leader of Kirkland's council in Hudsfield.
And they were having some pretty bad news days at that time.
By the way, Mufti Pandor, he's the same guy who ordered the Islamic mob to come to the school in Batli and demand the sacking of the RE teacher who showed a cartoon of Muhammad in a discussion about free speech.
Look at what we do as a community and you'll understand our stance.
So what has happened is totally unacceptable.
And we have made sure that the school understands that.
The teacher has been suspended.
The teacher has been suspended.
Oh man, in a sense, even if you extract for a minute the subject of the documentary, which seems to be about media exploitation of an incident, which is a continual thing, that's primarily what the media does now is it highlights, amplifies, tweaks, distorts, changes stories to suit a narrative.
Isn't it extraordinary to see just a few years ago, people wearing masks, masks pulled down into beards, police wearing masks?
Think about that now.
How many of us would wear masks right now if we were given the same opportunity and the information we have now about COVID, its transmission, the efficacy of masks, the lethality of COVID?
In a way, you could see during this period, whether it's the Black Lives Matter protests or other social movements, that we were living in a kind of crucible of hysteria anyway.
And into this crucible goes information that I think maximizes disunity and conflict.
I feel that British Muslims have a right to live their lives and express their faith in freely.
That's what I believe.
I also believe that British working class people have the, that are white and Sikh and Christian and atheist and whatever Else, have the same rights.
And what I feel like is that the media's contribution to this incident is not beneficial.
It's ultimately like the British Empire was built on a sort of a famous little maxim: divide and conquer.
All empires require that the general population doesn't realize, wait a minute, we've got more in common with one another than these people that benefit from stoking conflicts between us.
Let's see if there are ways that we can manage our social resources and our territories and our rights cohesively together rather than continually being conducted by forces that benefit from us being continually trapped in conflicts.
I mean, throughout history, surely there have been ways where Jews and Christians and Muslims have got to find ways of getting on.
And I know that whether it's Crusades or Ottoman Empire or the various diasporas and pogroms against Jewish people, this has been a history beset by conflict and disaster and by suffering.
But what is amazing about this is that it literally starts between two kids and you can tweak this story however you want.
And it makes, you see, there was that very successful knife crime documentary, not documentary, not documentary, scripted drama that starred Stephen Graham, brilliant English actor.
And people kind of jumped on that and used that to tell this story.
We don't want ordinary young men empowered.
Let's vilify that movement, whether it's sort of Andrew Tate, who's a person that has challenges and has said some pretty crazy stuff, but he represents a sort of a, I would say, a kind of a constitution and a mindset that has to be kind of heard.
Same with Tommy Robinson, same with other voices in this territory.
It's all getting kind of shut down and polluted, not to protect you, not to help you, but to control you.
That's, I guess, the main argument that I'm kind of pushing here.
Well, you think, what is the goal of all this, right?
The truth is not the goal anymore.
Like, what is the truth?
That's not the goal.
Peace is not the goal.
So nobody's going to disarm anyone.
No one's going to de-escalate.
So that's not the goal.
And then the news travels so fast, everyone reacts to one headline and then it's off like wildfire.
And for someone to stop and pause and to say, what is the truth and get to the bottom of it, it's going to take too long because there's going to be new news that's going to happen the very next day.
I know in the chat right now, people will be saying, like, Israel funded Tommy Robinson and that kind of stuff.
Or there'll be people saying that he's racist.
And I guess my point is, why would you exclude this voice from the conversation?
Who has the right to exclude this voice from the conversation?
And given that Elon Musk reposting this documentary has ultimately led to an inquiry, why don't we just accept that you have to have complicated conversations with people with a variety of views and recognize that there's probably more chance of alliance, cohesion and peace between those groups without the intervention of the current systems we have?
Tolerance does not mean agreement.
It does not have to mean agreement.
I think people confuse that.
It's weird, isn't it, how in our interpersonal lives, most of us can get along with people with a variety of views in ways that they can't when it's filtered through the prism of the culture.
Once it gets into the culture, it seems that it's more likely to heighten tensions.
And far from being a Luddite, I believe actually that the advances in AI and telecommunications more generally could be used to create diplomatic communicative peace between various groups and establish new ideas of what a state or what a nation even means.
I think there could be new conversations.
People don't use the word Christendom anymore, for example, do they?
They don't think that this is the Christian world.
There's so much fracture.
I think the tendency is towards decentralization and honoring decentralization.
We're not going to live in a conflict-free world.
This isn't paradise.
This isn't Valhalla.
This isn't heaven.
This isn't Shang-ReLa, whatever your idea of utopia is.
This is going to be a place that's beset with conflict.
But surely the principles we live by should be maximally affording us the opportunity to honor and acknowledge these differences.
And first, we have to recognize that our current systems of power, whether they are media, government or corporate, are invested in increasing conflict.
With that acknowledgement, we might be able to have more sensible conversations among one another.
Get off!
You may recall the teacher had to flee and he's still in hiding under police protection.
Luckily, he hasn't ended up like Samuel Patty, the French teacher who was beheaded for having a similar discussion in a classroom about free speech.
You see, free speech is essential for any society wishing to maintain intellectual and social progress.
But not all societies are bothered about intellectual and social progress.
Should we be silenced by the demands of Mufti Pandor and Sharia law?
Should we sacrifice our freedom of speech?
Should we sacrifice the free and open exchange of ideas?
Should we sacrifice the cultural inheritance of which we are all custodians?
But back to the bad news days in Kirkleys and the playground incident in 2018.
There was also Kirkley's counsellor Masood Ahmed.
I'm not aware of there's a problem at the school.
That's something I'm starting to find out in terms of that there is a problem at the school and that is something I will definitely be picking up.
Now some of you may remember this.
Michael is going to explain what's going to happen next right now.
You're being arrested.
I am being arrested.
I've been causing a breach of peace.
I've caused a breach of peace.
I'm being arrested.
But the content of what you're streaming.
The content of what I'm streaming.
I'm being arrested for breach of the peace.
I'm being arrested for breach of the peace.
You've all watched this.
You've all watched it.
Can you get me a sniffer?
Can you get me a sniffer?
Can you get me a snitch up?
Doing up a white peace, please.
Do you want to stand on what I've just said to you?
Daniel, can you just explain it again?
Do you want to rest in the suspicion of breach of the peace?
What does that mean?
What does that mean?
At the same time as this playground spat between two young lads, 20 Huddersfield men were being jailed across Yorkshire At Leeds Crown Court for what would be the biggest grooming gang Britain has ever seen.
Ultimately, 35 almost exclusively Muslim men would be given 380 years in prison for grooming, trafficking and raping young children, most of whom were known to Councillor Pandor's Kirkleys Council.
Mufti Pandor travelled for half an hour to rabble-rouse a gang outside the school gates over this playground incident.
When within a couple of mile radius in Batley, police have arrested a further 99 men in relation to historic sex crimes.
So far, 32 have been charged, including one Ibrahim Pandor, 41 of Batley.
That makes it the highest destination of grooming gang arrests anywhere in the UK.
We Google to see what Mufti Pandor has said about these grooming gang atrocities.
Nothing.
We Googled to see what Councillor Masood Ahmed's condemnation.
Nothing.
In fact, we can't find the condemnation from the Mufti's brother either, Councillor Shabir Pandor, leader of the council.
Just one statement from him reported in June 2019 telling the National Working Group of Child Sexual Exploitation Response Unit that his authority had moved forward.
That's it.
They've moved on.
Never mind grooming gangs, gang rape of young children.
All these men seem to be far more concerned about what happened in a playground at Ormondbury Community School.
Or about cartoons of their prophet Mohammed.
I think I now realise how difficult this is going to be because everyone we've spoken to today, they're all confirming what I said was true.
Everyone's confirming what Jamal was like, including school staff.
But as soon as I mentioned this camera, as soon as I mentioned court, I need someone to come to court, they just totally silent straight away.
No, no one can have said that.
No one can have said this.
If you jump in, it's raining.
I'm realising how difficult it's going to be, but I have got an idea for that now after today.
But first off, McDonald's, yeah.
Let's go to McDonald's because I'm starving.
It's been a long day.
That is the British Working Club.
He's out there.
He's making documentaries.
He's straight to McDonald's.
Now, Tommy, can I talk to you about organic food and permacultures that all communities should be growing and rearing their own meat?
And we have to rise up against McDonald's with the same fervor that we would rise up against other forms of invasive ideology.
Corporatism, commercialism, bad diets, anti-Maha modalities have to be opposed with the same enthusiasm.
Although who don't like them milkshakes in a Big Mac once in a while, baby.
It's a long day.
Yeah, I'll see you on a YouTube.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Smaller in real life, huh?
Nice to see you.
Nice to meet you, man.
Shall we offer you anything?
No, I'm fine, thank you.
Cheers, though.
Yeah, thanks, man.
Nice to see you.
Thank you.
You think that's British people?
Right, I'm hungry.
I can't do this no more.
Whether it's a documentary on sort of heightening tensions between British people of different identities, or whether it's just me here.
Oh, I can't do it anymore.
I'm famished.
Take me to Wendy's.
That's so good just to go right to say McDonald's too.
Like that, he had to say that in the documentary.
Yeah.
It's raining.
Let's go inside.
I'm hungry.
Let's go to McDonald's.
I don't need to edit that out.
That guy's a genuine guy.
There's no doubt.
Yeah, thanks, man.
Nice to see you.
Thank you, bruv.
Hello.
Steve, how are you, mate?
Tommy.
I'm good, mate.
Bro, mate, have you still got all those hidden cameras?
Yeah, of course I have.
Yeah.
Could I borrow them?
I like the way this guy operates, man.
He's probably eating those beef tallow fries from McDonald's in the UK, unlike in America where it's added everything.
It's not even real.
Do you think he's going to set up hidden cameras in McDonald's and do an expose on their sort of their labor practices or the quality of their ingredients?
I see there could be a collaboration.
Or maybe a sponsorship partnership.
Yeah, but when I say borrow them, can I borrow?
I'm going to need to take them for weeks because I've got so much to do.
It's a long story.
I'll explain when I see you.
But I'm in a bit of a situation and I need some hidden cameras.
That's it.
So that's the idea.
The idea is, I've got a friend there, Secret Steve, who has all sorts of cameras, yeah?
He's a private investigator.
I need to show the public everything I've heard today.
Yeah, Secret Steve.
When I say borrow, I mean I'm going to keep them for a very long time.
Today, I need to know the truth.
I need them to know how much they've been lied to by the media about what happened in this town.
And the only way, unfortunately, the only way I'm going to be able to do that is with hidden cameras because today I've heard the truth, but I need every one of you to know the truth.
And everyone's too scared.
That's why I said Project Fear.
Everyone is too scared to speak the truth or to come to court.
So I'm going to end up getting hammered in court.
The whole world told I've lied.
When I haven't, I was the only journalist in the UK who told the truth.
So we need to prove it.
So we'll shoot down the motorway now.
We'll go get these hidden cameras.
These are all...
There's a camera in there.
That's the camera.
Mad, isn't it?
It's the camera there.
You've got everything here.
Cameras, glasses.
I don't wear glasses, so that's going to be awkward.
That's the bottom of a coffee cup.
So you put that on the bottom of the coffee cup.
feel like james bond This today, that's the camera.
I'll have to take this off, but it doesn't matter because apparently this records all the audio, records everything.
That's the camera, and I feel a little bit dirty doing this.
But it is the only way I'm going to get people to speak.
And then I need you to hear what I hear.
The idea that people would maraude the streets looking for him was appalling.
The fact that the video itself, although it showed the accumulation of things that built up to that, did not deserve what happened to him or to anybody else in that situation.
I'm afraid the media, I call it the perfect storm, I was getting emails from Pakistan, from Australia, from America telling me to resign.
So it went worldwide and I'm afraid I came into teaching to help poor people, and they got rid of me.
I've got a problem here.
I lost my job over this, and as a result, the councillors told me that I cannot speak to anybody ever about it.
So, unfortunately.
Well, you asked to go over tomorrow anything.
I was there when it happened.
I was there when I dealt with all the situation.
And then Ostead came, then Trevor wasn't there anymore.
That's all I can say.
I've got to get a job.
So that's where it's left me.
And I can live with that, but barely only 15.
I can't live with that.
That's different.
He's a young man with a life that he should be an articulate lad, he's got a lot about him.
That's terrible.
I can't.
No, no.
If I do, I could have got myself into real trouble.
No, okay.
I could have been really serious trouble, legal trouble because part of the council's Correct.
So they've said you can't discuss it.
I'm not with the NBA, so you keep attention.
So you get attention.
Yeah.
Fucking hell, bro.
I have to be very careful about what I say to it.
I'm not allowed to talk about it.
I really am not.
So I can't discuss it.
I can't discuss it with the media.
I've always wanted to have my say which I've never had.
Never been allowed to have.
Never allowed to say goodbye to my staff.
I was just told to leave.
So I worked there nearly 30 years, sorry, 20 years, and never got a card, never got a goodbye.
This whole thing was just used.
The whole thing was used to push them in and hijacked and by the right political, I'm quite a political person, by the right and the left.
It was hijacked and spun all out of propulsion and now we've got problems.
But essentially what you'll meet is a wall of silence.
What a mess.
It is a mess, but it's a tragedy.
It's a tragedy for Burley.
I'm not sure Jamal will get anything out of this ever in his life, positive out of it either, necessarily.
He might have got a few silver coins from Judas, but that's about it.
You know, that's it.
The thing is that he instantly having six weeks prior, or weeks prior, and they're on the same day at the same time.
I've looked at the timings, the GoFundMe sub, the statements release.
Right, now you see your pulling picture together.
And then they're built up.
I couldn't comment on that, but he's running a picture there.
And built it up as a racial student.
He's seeing he's English perfect.
Job done.
Already, that's gold, yeah.
I know that's gold.
All I hope, I hope that's recorded.
I can't turn the computer on.
So I just pray that it's got the audio and the visual and it's not pointing up there.
And that's the first visit.
And I know this is going to work.
I know.
I didn't think he'd talk before he shut the door in my face.
He didn't.
He seemed like he wanted to talk.
There's a lot he wants to say.
So, but yeah, let's go.
Next question.
Sorry.
Was there a racism problem in the school?
Well, no, I don't think there was.
What about other Syrian refugees?
Do you think what happened to Jamal in the school was because he was a Syrian refugee?
No, not at all.
I told you before.
That would have happened if the child was white, big, blue, whatever colour.
They're all scared.
A lot of careers, aren't they?
I work for probation service now.
You do now?
Yeah.
So I don't know where I stand with it.
If I go, I could lose my job.
So they seem to be pretty keen on these NDAs.
Who is that?
The police council.
But I can't disclose that with you.
That for?
Lords.
I won't say I can't disclose it because I signed it.
That incident was talked about by Theresa May at a G20 summit.
Somebody asked her a question about it.
We were then off-steaded by five of the top inspectors in the country.
But only from one registered inspector.
We had the head of safeguarding.
I had a manuspi on the head of off-stead speaking to me about it.
If you want my honest opinion, they said, get up there, I don't know who the day it is.
Get up there and shut that school.
Get up there and get rid of this.
Get rid of the problem.
By the baby.
Correct.
Open your mouth.
Correct.
Get up there and get up and get rid of it.
But why do you think that?
Do you think, because I'm not thinking now, do you remember?
Because you come here two years ago, I've got so many negative things said about him now by so many people.
I mean, so many.
I mean, I've got two big children.
I've got to make a problem.
We have nine student children, nine families.
We're not going to be shooting.
Well, my view is that you won't get much of an answer out of the problem because you work there by various companies.
None the scholars agree with us.
Do you get paid as well?
Nothing to do.
They all have.
Every teacher got paid, not to tell the truth.
But the head teacher can't even talk about Jamel at all.
No, neither can you.
But if you should.
Well, if you work it out, it must be a good one, mustn't you?
Oh, yeah.
Did you work there as well?
I was the chair of governors there but so it's it's not what my issue is that No, no, no, yeah.
And Rob wouldn't talk to you either, so it's pointless.
It's pointless me even giving you a question.
But I told the truth.
Your contact detail wouldn't work with that.
I told the truth about what happened that day.
I am not even arguing.
His life was destroyed.
Well, that's not fair either, is it?
As a racist bully, he wasn't.
And he wasn't.
You and I both know that.
The truth is just.
How much money is it?
I can't see the finger because if I see the finger, it goes out.
Because my...
18.
I've just found out.
The head teachers told us already that he was blackmailed and threatened.
I've just found out I've killed him.
He was paid 18 times ago.
I was paid.
He was paid money.
He was paid money by the local government.
so he can't tell the truth about what's going on in that school.
Then they've given everyone non-disclosure agreements from school staff to governors to and Paul Kumar to get £18,000.
He's not even involved.
Silencing everybody.
So no one can ever, this is forever, once you sign that agreement, no one can ever tell the truth while they push this manufactured lie that destroyed lives, schools, communities, everyone's life.
I've seen life after life after life, person after person's life destroyed, while the council, your local council, Kirk Police Council, give away hundreds of thousands of pounds to make sure that the truth can never be told.
I can't believe it.
I knew from day dot, I asked myself the question, when this was blowing up and I knew the truth, I kept saying, how come no teacher's telling the truth?
If all those teachers know what's going on in that school, how come none of them are coming out and saying?
Well, now we know.
Now the whole world's going to know.
Because Copenhagen Council paid them not to.
Unbelievable.
unbelievable Jamal was in your year?
Yeah, he was in the same year as me.
What was Jamal's attitude like in school?
He wasn't very nice.
He called female teachers bitches.
He just didn't really have respect for the female students, to be honest.
Yeah, basically, we were in a P lesson and we were playing hockey with a teacher called Mr. Cattell.
I had taken the hockey puck off of Jamal because I was on the other team and sent it to the other side of the room where my teammates were.
And I then turned around and just felt a really sharp pain in my back.
He'd swung the hockey stick over his head and hit me in the spine with it.
All right, thanks very much for joining us today for Russell Brands Stay Free Watch Along.
Thank you for the whole team.
Thank you, Massey, Luke, Isaac, and Jake for your contributions.
We will do another one of these next week on Tommy Robinson's documentary.
Remember, we'll be back on Monday, not with more of the same, but with more of the different.
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