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Jan. 14, 2025 - Stay Free - Russel Brand
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BREAK BREAD EP. 10 - DALLAS JENKINS
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Thank you.
break bread with Russell Brown's You may be watching this on Locals.
You may be watching this on Rumble Premium.
For the first ten minutes, we'll be on Rumble Premium with mostly Amanda Jenkins.
Amanda Jenkins is the wife of Dallas Jenkins.
Dallas Jenkins is the creator of The Chosen.
I'm very, very excited to be breaking bread today with Dallas Jenkins.
Dallas, hello!
I'm so happy to see you.
I'm so glad to talk to you, like, at the same time.
We're not exchanging videos.
We're actually, like, you are saying something and then I'm responding immediately.
Isn't that fun human interaction?
We're in the same tabernacle.
We are occupying the same space.
Instead of me in one tabernacle throwing some information into the abyss, you in your tabernacle receiving it in voice note form or video form.
I've really enjoyed our video exchange, by the way, Dallas.
Yes, yes.
No, it's been great to talk to you and get to know you.
I'm really excited to be doing this.
Dallas, there's no doubt that there is a Christian revival taking place across the world.
People are talking about Christianity in a way that...
I mean, I know people that have been Christian for a long time.
I've not been Christian very long, so I can only get my diagnosis from people that know more about it than me, and there's people in this room that know more about it than me, and obviously now I'm in a conversation with you.
It's, in a sense, no way that we can extract...
This renewed global interest in Christianity from your show, The Chosen.
That must feel good.
Couldn't it conversely make you feel...
I'm important.
I'm doing an important thing.
How are you managing your tremendous success, impact and influence with a crowdfunded show that could have, like most crowdfunded projects, disappear into some form of irrelevance but has become a global phenomenon?
How are you marshalling your leadership and the power that it has granted you?
How are you handling that, Dallas Jenkins?
Well, thank you.
That's very kind.
I would say...
The opposite has happened.
The opposite of feeling any kind of responsibility or feeling any sense of pride.
I used to chase this kind of thing all the time.
Ten years ago, the notion of having a show that had reached this level of success would have been the dream.
The meetings that I'm having with people in Hollywood, I would have killed to meet with the people who were working for the people that I'm meeting with.
And God took all that away from me.
I mean, you've had this recent conversion towards Christ, and I think you would probably agree that the thing that preceded it was a brokenness, some sort of surrender.
Now, I've been a believer as long as I can remember, but I still needed to break.
I still needed to surrender, and I didn't do that until my 40s.
When my feature film that I was all excited about completely failed at the box office and I was faced with, I might never do this again.
I might not get another chance to do this again.
And could I be okay with that?
And when God just met me there, more than I'd probably ever experienced God before, the brokenness and the humility are what prepared me for this.
They're what tilled the soil for handling...
And now, by the time I didn't care about it anymore, it's when it came.
And so COVID in 2020 is what I think started that convergence between people's interest in Christ and the availability of a show like this to meet that interest and then ultimately lead to more Bible reading, more desire to know Christ.
But it's always preceded by brokenness.
Yes, it's been preceded by brokenness in my case as well, as you correctly diagnosed.
How fascinating that the pandemic, which I might say now as a follower of Jesus Christ was intended for bad, was intended for bad, has ended up being used for good, as so many things are.
And I'm interested to hear on the personal level that your own material success, but spiritual success, given the nature of the material that you're using.
I've got so many questions about that because, you know, the word is translated, of course, into numerous languages.
I wonder at what point it might be regarded as interpretive if I had to describe it to someone now.
If I had to interpret pieces of scripture or scripture in its entirety, though that would be quite a task, to somebody, would my interpretation in time to them become regarded as sacred?
I wonder how people in the future may look back at the chosen as a document, even though, of course, it has other considerations, entertainment, the humanizing of the members of the ensemble.
But before I get to that, this is called Break Bread with Russell Brand, and I would love...
I'd love to break bread with you, Dallas Jenkins.
And I'd love to invite Amanda, your wife, to join us.
I was going to invite my wife, but she's gone off to speak to a psychiatrist for reasons that would be obvious to anyone.
And he's a very...
He's a very holy man.
Yeah, come on.
Amanda!
Oh my gosh!
Hello!
How lovely to meet you formally.
Your husband, Dallas, mentioned that you would be open to joining us in a voice message, otherwise I never would have been so impertinent to request your company.
But now that I have you, so lovely to meet you and see you.
I'm Russell.
Hello.
Hi Russell, I'm Amanda.
Amanda, one of the things, Dallas has been telling, you've got bread and we've got juice.
Dallas, and Amanda, what bit of scripture would you suggest that I use or that we use to undertake our communion?
You know, some people like to do that bit from Corinthians, some in John, some in Matthew.
Someone the other day used something from right in the Old Testament.
Someone used something the other day.
I guess it was Passover stuff.
Have you got any thoughts on what you'd like to use?
Well, we just filmed season five where they have the Last Supper and there's that beautiful prayer from Jesus that's in the book of John.
And then that's when he actually says, let's do this together.
I think that was the first time Jesus did that specific thing with his disciples.
And so we're here at the set where, not this room, but we're at the stages where this took place.
And so that seems apropos.
Do you have the book of John in your Bible there with you?
Yes, I do.
No, no, I exercise no editorial control over this.
I said, just give me a standard Bible with all of the books in it.
Don't remove a single word.
I wouldn't feel confident or qualified to adjust this.
So, John, right, let me get there, let me get there.
John 6, dispute over testimony, unbelief, Jesus heals man.
All of this, I've seen all of this in the shows.
Jesus comes to Jerusalem as king.
Jesus predicts his portrayal.
Denial.
Predicts Peter's denial.
So we're around here.
Comforts Jesus the way to the Father.
It's so beautiful, isn't it?
So powerful.
Excuse me, Jake, will you help to point out here where in John I'll find the appropriate passage and prayer, please?
Because John covers the Last Supper in quite a lot of detail.
It should be John 13. 13. Let's see.
He washes the disciples' feet.
My man Jake's saying this a bit later.
Is it after this Jesus looks towards heaven and prayed?
Is it John 17?
Yeah, let me...
If you're watching this on Rumble, after a while we'll be just on Rumble Premium.
Rumble Premium is like $9 a month.
You get all of our content there, plus all of Crowder's and Bongino's and Glenn Greenwald's content.
And if you're on locals like Trish McLeod, I see you, and Blessed Old Bird and Lily Farm Girl, hello all of you.
I've missed you all so much.
you will continue to get all of our content on break bread we have the opportunity to talk about christ and christianity with well in i say in the case of dallas jenkins but even more so amanda jenkins people that are participating in the revival and reawakening of interest in christianity and how that might impact influence and direct power jesus said to them uh thank you We've got, in John, very true...
What about this?
This is John 6, 53. Jesus said to them, Thanks, Jake.
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them, just as the living Father sent me.
And I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.
This is the bread that came down from heaven.
Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.
He said this while teaching in the synagogue at Capernaum.
Hey, so should we break bread together now?
Yes.
Would you like to say some words for us, Amanda?
Go ahead, Amanda.
Well, Lord, what an honor.
To be right in the middle of where you're moving and to know new believers and to experience their zeal.
We're so thankful for Russell.
We're so thankful for his platform.
We're so thankful for Jesus, though.
We're so thankful for what we get to do, what we get to be a part of, what we get to spread to the world.
And we're so thankful for your sacrifice.
We're humbled to participate.
Thank you, Lord.
In Jesus' name.
In Jesus' name.
Amen.
Thank you, Lord, for your broken body.
Thank you that your body was broken on the cross.
Thank you that you endured the scourge and the humiliation, Lord, and the bitterness.
Thank you, Lord, that you endured all this from me.
Thank you that in your body I participate in eternal life.
Thank you that I'm redeemed by your suffering.
Heavenly Father, Thank you, Lord, for your blood and for the covenant of your blood that covers us all.
Thank you, Lord, for bringing Dallas and Amanda to us today, that we can participate in your wisdom through them.
Thank you, Lord, for the gift that you granted to Dallas, allowing him to create this incredible artifact that has brought so much interest, that has reawakened and illustrated so much interest in your works, humanized, made relevant, pertinent and germane.
To new audiences, your honor and your greatness and your glory.
Thank you, Jesus Christ, for your blood.
Thank you that you died for me.
Thank you that we're healed by your sacrifice and that we may know eternal life in you.
Amen.
Amen.
The drink.
Good Christians, we don't drink the actual alcohol.
Yeah, I mean, for my own reasons, I've had to let go of that as well.
Why did you two think that I was going to become Christian then?
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