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”Kamala Harris & Joe Biden Are Neocon WARMONGERS!” Jimmy Dore DESTROYS The Democrats – SF463
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In this video, you're going to see the future.
Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.
Thanks for joining me for a very special edition of Stay Free with Russell Brand.
We are at Rumble HQ in DC.
I'm in Washington because I've been participating in Rescue the Republic, Brett Weinstein's event, at which many people, including Tulsi Gabbard and Bobby Kennedy, appeared.
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Before we get into today's brilliant interview with Jimmy Dore, and even for Jimmy Dore, he is immaculate today, bringing together a variety of themes.
All, I suppose, coalescing around the idea of unity.
Unity in particular, of course, between people that might oppose one another, whether that's culturally or politically, because this is a time where we have to have a decentralized but unified response to globalism and totalitarianism.
It's a fantastic conversation.
Before we get into that, here are some of my favorite moments from yesterday's Rescue the Republic event.
It was pretty fantastic.
I hope you were there.
Let me know in the comments and the chat if you were attending.
Let's have a look at that and then I'll be back with my conversation With Jimmy Dore.
See you in a second.
The freest, greatest experiment in freedom in the history of the world.
And it does require our eternal vigilance now more than ever.
But I am not worried.
I know that God has given us this great opportunity to recharge ourselves, to ask us what we want as a nation, as a community, as a family, and as individuals.
We want to continue this for the next generation and for our grandchildren.
And that decision that we make this November are going to help continue this freedom moving forward.
And because freedom of speech is now frequently described as a stalking horse for hate and discrimination, the phrase appears less and less.
Speech is mentioned in reputable media really only as a possible vector for the disease of misinformation or disinformation.
And for most people, the only thing that will remain of this issue soon is a little flutter of nerves reminding them not to think about it.
It's why it's important to understand the endgame of the censors is not controlling speech.
They're already doing that.
They're already removing speech.
The endgame is getting us to forget that we ever had anything to say.
Some will ask why it takes courage or love to deliver or witness a speech here in the shadow of the Washington Monument.
Obviously, it shouldn't.
But I doubt there are many here today who did not seriously consider whether they were putting their freedom, or perhaps even their lives, in danger.
And as we planned the event, many people shared their concerns.
I've lost count of the number of times I was warned not to do it by someone who then wished us luck.
But the more I listened to people's trepidations, the simpler the calculus became.
If millions of Americans are afraid to exercise their most fundamental right in their own capital, that implies the Capitol is held by a force that is hostile to the Republic and her people.
What I saw there were people coming from all over the world, across the border, knowing exactly where to go.
Not to evade Border Patrol, but to be picked up by Border Patrol.
Waiting patiently to be loaded in the vans where Border Patrol have become nothing but Uber drivers for them.
Where they are quickly processed through a system that often within 24 hours gets them with a free plane ticket to anywhere in the country.
Often never to be heard from again.
What I saw as I stood in a parking lot near a train station where many of these drop-offs occurred were human traffickers who were waiting, women who were being drugged unknowingly, and in their foggy state of mind being ushered into cars, never to be heard from again.
During COVID, we saw the greatest attack On America's liberties and our constitutional right, and at any time in American history.
We saw by February of 2020, they were already censoring doctors, scientists, individuals, anybody who questioned the government orthodoxy.
The American press, guardians of the free speech of the First Amendment, of our democracy all took part in this unprecedented effort to silence dissent in our country.
The press, which is supposed to function to speak truth to power, instead began silencing the powerless and acting as a bullhorn for government orthodoxies.
And as soon as they figured out If they could censor us and that we were going to put up with it, they began an assault against all of our other Bill of Rights.
Hamilton, Adams, and Madison said that we put freedom of expression in the First Amendment because all of the other rights are dependent on it.
A government that has the capacity to silence its critics has license for any atrocity.
We're here in support of your freedom, our freedom, and collective freedom.
So with that, I will now ask you, Dr. Jordan Peterson, why did you, because now, this is a segue, I'm moving to an interview now, I'm aware I've spoken for a long while.
Any of you that know Jordan Peterson, well, you've never seen Jordan Peterson not talk for that long, have you?
Well, you know, it's not entirely obvious to me what the solution to this situation is, you know.
It's pretty plain.
I know you've got a microphone, and I've seen you defend yourself against English broadcasters extremely well.
And make no mistake, it's under true assault.
In my country, there's a bill that's in second reading, which has pushed it quite a ways along the legislative route, Bill C-63, which literally allows people to be reported to a provincial magistrate Under the possibility of one year's imprisonment in their own house with an ankle bracelet, with all their communication intercepted, in consequence of anyone's complaint, that they're afraid that a hate speech event might occur in the next year.
Yes.
That's Bill C-63.
You know, and I've read that bill, I've read that bill three times, because every time I read it, and then think about it, I can't believe that I could have possibly understood it properly.
And yet here we are, and there is very similar things going on in the UK.
There was a terrible bill that was recently defeated in Ireland, for example, which Would it put severe restrictions on free speech?
And there are people in the UK who are being persecuted and seriously persecuted for expressing their opinions, offensive though they may be, publicly in a manner that is absolutely necessary if you're going to support free speech.
Well, the free speech that offends no one requires no defense, and that's partly because it has no content.
If I only ever say something that everyone agrees with and produces no emotional response whatsoever, there's no point in even speaking.
Because you don't have to concentrate on what's obvious if you're going to speak, you have to concentrate on what's contentious and disruptive.
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A person who may not see eye to eye with me when it comes to the subject of spirituality but is neatly aligned on a whole host of political issues, in particular the necessity for people to come together to oppose gargantuanism, to establish some principles of subsidiarity, to be able to find common ground with people that you might otherwise be opposed to, is the great comedian and cultural commentator Jimmy Dore.
This is a fantastic conversation with Jimmy.
We talk about Rescue the Republic.
We talk a lot about Bobby Kennedy coming together with the Trump campaign and what that indicates.
And most of all, we talk about the necessity to end war and what the outpourings of perpetual war are domestically here in the United States.
Hope you enjoy this conversation.
Stay with us.
Let me know what you think in the comments.
Thanks for joining me today, Jimmy.
Great to be here, thanks for having me.
We're here to participate in Rescue the Republic and at this point we've not done it.
You've just heard from Rob Schneider that we should slow down when we're on the stage.
How do you feel about being part of this, Jimmy?
Because the way that the last six months has unfolded, if it had happened in the 80s or even the 90s, one would imagine the news events around the assassination attempts would have garnered more attention and lived longer in the cycle.
Something as seemingly seismic as someone like Bobby Kennedy joining the campaign of a rival, fundamentally, I suppose, crossing the aisle during a campaign.
It would be reported on significantly, but the only reporting you see on Bobby Kennedy are smears and attacks.
The only reporting you really see on Trump is sort of endless amplification of his flaws and failings.
I just wonder, as someone that, sort of like me, is really, at least culturally, was a figure of the left, how you're continuing to navigate this, or have you sort of flung off all concerns about that at this point?
Well, I think the reason why it's not a bigger story is because nothing is a story unless the media decides it's a story, right?
And then they decide how it's supposed to be a story, right?
So they don't want Trump's assassinations to be a big or attempts to be a big story.
They don't want it to be a big story that Bobby Kennedy's shifting over.
What they want to be is a big story is his non-sex sex affair where he didn't have sex.
It's the craziest thing I've ever heard.
They want the fact that he's being investigated over a whale.
They want that to be a story, or that he found a dead bear.
They want these things to be the story.
They don't want the actual story to be the story.
So that's, and you know, that's the big problem with the media, right?
You know, when I was younger, the news media used to be blue-collar people like me, people who came from working-class backgrounds.
And now, since it's only six companies that run all the media in the United States, you have these journalists that come from Ivy League universities that are hand-picked by the billionaires to go do, and they're happy to do the propaganda because they know they're going to be class-loyal.
And that's the kind of media we have.
We have class-loyal Ivy League pukes That are giving us our news and shaping the culture.
And so that's why we're living in the world we're living in.
That's why Kamala Harris, the story is, which they never talk about, is that she became the first presidential nominee without ever getting a vote.
That's the whole, you know, and I say, they call her, I've been in comedy clubs and they call her a queen.
And I guess by queen, they mean someone who was, you know, installed by the elite without any votes from the populace.
Because that's what that's really happening.
So that's the big story, but they'll never talk about that.
They let her not do... She's not doing interviews.
She's not taking questions.
And when she does do an interview, it's with Oprah.
It's more of a rally than it is an interview or a hard-hitting.
So again, that's the problem.
The problem is The news media, they control the narrative.
That's why we're at this thing today.
I'm there to talk about the First Amendment because the establishment on the left and the right want to get rid of the First Amendment.
They don't want you to be able to have free speech.
That's the thing that screws them up.
John Kerry, there's a video going around today on social media about him saying, that's the problem.
We can't reach a consensus because of social media.
That's good.
That's good.
But they don't like that.
And so that's why all those things aren't bigger stories than they should be.
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Do you think the framing of Bobby Kennedy in particular as like a kook and a madman and attacks on him is because in effect the real story is that there is a coalescing around Trump That can now legitimately be called an anti-establishment movement.
Do you think that when you mention Kamala Harris appearing on Oprah and it seeming more like a rally, that we're now, you know, of course it's common to talk of the silos in the information space, but when I think like that, you know, you and I have figures that are typically associated with the left, are doing events and participating in sort of like online forums or round tables or symposiums or things that amount to campaigning along with people like Tulsi Gabbard or Vivek Ramaswamy or Tucker or you know they're starting to look like I wonder how
Now they can continue to maintain the idea that there is something anti-establishment or pro-civil rights or almost the inheritors of the mantles of the great civil rights activists of the 60s like Martin Luther King or Malcolm X. Because when I see something like that Oprah spectacle, I like the movies of Ben Stiller and the movies of Meryl Streep and stuff.
It to me seems like now they're these are entirely separate worlds where there are sort of pundits that have come out of entertainment say like you or me but coupled with people that come from the business space or the military or law you know to be speaking about Bobby Kennedy and Tulsi All ultimately saying, in order to disrupt this project of globalism and totalitarianism, even if Make America First and MAGA and all that stuff is, you know, to some degree, of course, a nativist movement, this presents a kind of disruption to something that's more nefarious than what they're trying to present as the threat of dictatorship and tyranny, the sort of strongman demagoguery of Trump.
What do you feel when you see those two worlds?
And is it even possible to speculate on how this is all going to pan out, Jimmy?
Well, like I said, I think it's going to pan out.
I'll be surprised if the CIA allows Trump to become president.
If, as my friend Russell Dobler says, if he does become president, he has to rethink everything he thought about the CIA and the deep state.
So, I feel the same way, but what people don't realize is that Trump is a billionaire.
He's always been loved by the establishment.
Since I was a kid, he was on every late night talk show.
He hosted Saturday Night Live.
They all golf together, the Clintons and them.
They all go to each other's third and fourth weddings.
It's amazing.
And then they even gave him a network television show in the United States.
Hollywood gave him Emmy nominations.
Hollywood stars would come and call him Mr. Trump and bend their knee to him.
And then all of a sudden, when he became president, he is the worst thing in the world.
He's a combination of Hitler and Stalin.
And it's because, just like Elon Musk, he's a billionaire who stepped out of line a little bit.
Trump had the crazy idea that the president is supposed to control the military and the intelligence community.
And as Chuck Schumer said on Rachel Maddow, that he's dumb to think that.
He shouldn't go against the CIA because they've got six ways this Sunday to get back at the President.
And what he revealed in that moment was that the CIA and the intelligence community in the United States doesn't work for the President.
The President better be afraid of them.
And my question is, well, who do they work for then, right?
And that should have been the follow-up question, but Rachel Maddow's never going to ask that question because she works for the same people the CIA work for.
The military-industrial complex, a handful of billionaires, and Wall Street.
And so the other thing people don't realize is that anybody who's a populist, like, so Trump is more certainly more of a populist than Kamala Harris.
Kamala Harris was plucked by Wall Street.
She was their first choice in 2020.
And then she couldn't get a vote.
She had to drop out before Iowa.
And so they just installed her right this time.
So if you step out of line, Elon Musk wants to give you a little bit more free speech on Twitter.
They, all of a sudden, he's a pariah.
He went from being everybody's hero because he's making electric cars to being hated by the establishment, right?
Because they can't control him 100%.
And if it wasn't Trump, anybody who, like, if it was Bernie Sanders, they would be doing the exact same thing to him.
In fact, they did Russiagate Bernie Sanders during his campaign, and Bernie played along with it.
He's such a cuck.
And so if it was him or if, say, if Cornel West was actually getting votes or, I mean, look how they're coming out against Jill Stein.
So no matter who threatens the establishment even a little bit, that's what they're going to do to them.
So anybody, look, it's not just Donald Trump, right?
For instance, there's this thing called Stop Cop City in the United States, which are people protesting the expansion of the police state.
They use the same RICO statutes and the same grand jury to indict those people as they did Donald Trump.
And nobody can put those two things together.
So it's not just in the United States, too.
It's the global billionaires.
Look at Imran Khan in Pakistan.
He stood up and said, people of Pakistan want peace and we don't want to go along with NATO's wars.
And when I heard him say that, I was like, oh, he's in trouble.
And right away, they put him in jail.
And so do you remember what happened in Brazil?
Lula was running for president, and he was supposed to be the big lefty.
So they put him in prison in Brazil.
They thought the center right guy was going to win.
But then the far right guy, Bolsonaro, won.
They're like, oh, and what do we do now?
Just like when Trump won and when they passed Brexit, they didn't see that coming.
So then Bolsonaro's president, and they're like, well, what do we do?
Oh, we have to let Lula back out of prison because he's the only one who could beat Bolsonaro.
He does.
And then they immediately launched their own January 6th in Brazil, which nobody talks about in America.
I just found out that that happened.
And then so they can make it criminal, criminalize Bolsonaro.
So now he can't run for president again.
They're doing the same thing here.
91 felony counts to Donald Trump.
We've never, ever Prosecuted an ex-president in the history of our country, especially for garbage like they're doing here.
And they go, no, well, Jimmy, Donald Trump broke laws.
I'm like, really?
Then why does George Bush and Dick Cheney walk the earth, free men?
They lied us into an illegal war, killed a million people, and then ordered a worldwide torture program.
Barack Obama was constitutionally required to prosecute them, but he didn't.
And the public reason he gave was because all those torture crimes happened in the past, and Barack Obama was looking towards the future.
But the real reason is because Barack Obama works for the same people George Bush and Dick Cheney does.
And how do I know that?
Because Julian Assange revealed through WikiLeaks that an email came from Citigroup, Wall Street, to the Barack Obama campaign with a list of people they wanted in his cabinet.
And every one of those people on the list ended up in Barack Obama's cabinet.
So that's who he actually works for.
The same people Dick Cheney and George Bush worked for.
Barack Obama was not a departure from George Bush.
He was a continuation.
He took us from two wars to seven.
He made sure the bankers got their bonuses while he kicked 5.1 million families out of their houses.
He dropped more bombs than George Bush and nobody noticed.
And that's another thing, right?
So you're talking about how Oprah and all these billionaires and how do they not see that they are the establishment?
They're not anti-establishment.
Well, it's because now they're using identity politics.
So Oprah gets up there and talks about how she's been a victim of racism and sexism.
Kamala Harris, the same thing.
And so they're using their identity politics that the fact that they're black as somehow makes them an outsider when they're not outsiders.
They are the new establishment.
Barack Obama, You know, as Glenn Ford at the Black Agenda Report said, that the Democrats are the greater evil, because they can do things that we would be upset if Republicans did.
I said, you know, if a Republican becomes president, at least Democrats will protest them when they start a war.
But if it's Barack Obama or Kamala Harris, if it's a Democrat, especially if it's a black-skinned Democrat, they won't do that.
They just go right along.
Well, it must be the right thing to do.
Barack Obama's doing it.
So that's, I hope that's not too long of an answer to your question, but that's the world we're living in.
That's a great observation that they don't realize that they are the establishment.
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It's an incredibly effective way to continue to divide people and retain the piety that's necessary to not fall into the self-examination that one might imagine our circumstances demand.
When the fleet of former Bush staffers offered their endorsement to Kamala, it was welcomed.
When the Cheneys offered their endorsement to Kamala, it was welcomed.
And it's interesting to observe the serpent snaking its way either side of the aisle, masked only by cutaneous distinction, not by anything of depth.
When you were talking just then about Barack Obama being a continuation of the legacy of Bush, It's very striking because I once watched, I bet you saw it, I may even have found it on your x-feed thinking about it, a PBS documentary about Obama when he was still senator and he weren't running for the nomination yet.
And what it seemed like was a story of a guy with a pretty unusual and anomalous past who was really pretty righteous actually, becoming a lawyer and doing pro bono work and going to that famous college that Is it browns where african-american people go a lot and like learning more than his marriage to Michelle?
This is like a really interesting character and it's so astonishing to see that in government what it amounts to is The the things that seem significant prior to their inauguration are merely branding that once in office It's like there will be wars.
We will bail out the banks.
There will not be an investigation into what happened in 2008 And what I suppose we're living in, it seems to me, Jimmy, as the business of war continues terrifyingly, as the information of men and people involved in WikiLeaks, but particularly Julian Assange, starts to permeate into the culture, we have to live in this
Kind of odd dual reality, I think, people that occupy these kind of independent media spaces and consume this type of content of knowing, yeah, I know that already now about like that's the this document about the cabinet appointments and yet somehow I'm watching the spectacle of I'm watching the spectacle of Oprah Winfrey We're oddly forced to occupy these worlds simultaneously.
Now, as the consequences increase and the cultural conversation is continually navigated back to divisiveness, issues that I think warrant Of course, the conversation about race and culture and identity, these are significant and important conversations that emerged from the civil rights movement.
Significantly, the economic component is often, as you say, extracted because there is no cohesive Working class movement that allows people of different colors.
If I'm in Chicago and I'm principally among people of color.
At the moment I'm staying in Atlanta and I'm going to speak to the guy that runs the Atlanta Voice out there.
His name's Donald Suggs.
He's the editor-in-chief.
They're a Democrat party supporting organization.
And I'm like, I want to talk to him about this election, and I don't want the idea that I believe it's important that the Democratic Party don't win in November.
I don't want that to be code for, I'm a racist.
I don't want that to be the conversation.
And the reason is because, in particular since Bobby's joined, it's like, Well, make America healthy again.
Do something about big food and big pharma.
Do something about the relentless machinery of war.
People will point out that there are certain conflicts that don't seem to be within that purview, but I think most of us are like, the military-industrial complex have too much of a hand in America's foreign policy.
And of course freedom of speech, which you've already touched upon.
But how, you know, if branding is ultimately what seems to be determining the outcomes of these election cycles with the deep, you know, the government always wins no matter how you elect, how do we as people that have made this kind of journey, and do you feel an obligation to, be able to talk to people that might affiliate with a
particular tribe on the basis of the cultural issues that the Democratic Party and their mouthpieces use
to create a division. How do you conduct those conversations? How do you bring people
together? And how do you highlight that an anti-establishment movement happens to be coalescing
around a nativist figure in Trump?
Well, the whole game of the establishment is divide and conquer.
And they want me to, you know, they did a controlled demolition of our economy during COVID, which smashed everybody except a handful of millionaires and billionaires.
And they want me to blame my neighbor and hate my neighbor for the pain I'm feeling because he wouldn't take a vaccine that didn't work the way they said it did in the first place.
And the only way you can fight back against that is to coalesce, to come together.
I'm not going to hate my neighbor.
My neighbor, we have a common enemy, and that common enemy is an oligarchy.
We're living in an oligarchy that's not hyperbole, that was proven by a Princeton study over 10 years ago, and it's only gotten worse.
And so as Christian Smalls proved on Staten Island, He started a union, the first union to go against Amazon on Staten Island.
Who lives there?
Trump voters.
So that was a black guy who organized Trump voters.
They coalesced around an issue.
That issue is around class lines.
We have economic interests that coalesce and crossover.
Let's join together to oppose Jeff Bezos and the oligarch.
And so that worked.
And so that's what they don't want you to do.
And that's what they... So even this thing we're speaking at today, they're like, oh, Jimmy, I've had people, many people saying, well, how could you be on stage?
Because this person thinks that and that person thinks this.
And I always quote Frederick Douglass.
I'll join.
I will unite with anyone to do right and with no one to do wrong.
And so, the fact that I vehemently disagree with other people on other issues, but I agree on certain things, like lawfare, ending wars, freedom of speech, that's what gives it the power.
If everybody was the same, thought the same, and we came together, nobody cares.
It's when people who disagree vehemently on certain things come together, and they're like, It's like when I spoke at the anti-war rally last year, and people were like, well, some of those people don't support the LGBTQ agenda.
I go, yeah, that's not what this rally is about.
This rally is about everybody coming together to end the war.
Because if we have a nuclear war, it doesn't matter what your LGBTQ agenda is.
And people from Code Pink wouldn't come because of that.
The joke I made was, yeah, I'd like to stop a nuclear war, but not with those people.
So that's what gives it its power.
You've got to remember that they want you to hate your neighbor.
After 2010, after Occupy Wall Street, that scared the establishment.
So the Tea Party was the right-wing people coming together to oppose Wall Street.
And Occupy was left-wing people coming together to oppose.
And they saw that.
We can't let them get together.
And so that's when you started to see all this talk about racism and white supremacy,
even after we elected Barack Obama.
And it was appearing in all the newspapers and the corporate media.
And they want us to focus on all that, white supremacy, racism, because that's a way to
divide everybody.
Even though every poll showed up until that point, everybody thought race relations were
getting better and better than they've ever been in the history of our country.
They don't want that.
They want to find a way to make people divided.
And that's exactly what's happening.
And it's working, actually.
People still pat themselves on the back for voting for Democrats.
You know, I was at the Democratic Convention this year, and it was depressing.
When I was at the Democratic Convention in 2016, half the people there had voted for Bernie Sanders,
who wanted to overthrow the corporate control of the Democratic Party.
They wanted to overthrow the Democratic establishment.
Well, this one, it was nothing like that.
Everybody was there, was on board with their corporate talking points.
They were cheering on corruption.
They were cheering on more war.
They were cheering on division.
It really did depress me.
I'm not kidding.
And it was like a Stepford Wives convention.
Nobody had a critique of the Democratic Party.
Nobody wanted them to change.
I make the case that Donald Trump is running to the left of Kamala Harris.
And he is.
He says he wants to end the war in Ukraine.
Kamala Harris doesn't want to do that.
He says he wants to take the tax off tipped wages.
Well, then she copied him.
Right?
So there's lots of things that he wants to abolish.
He wants to obliterate the deep state.
They love the deep state.
They love the FBI.
The FBI has a history of infiltrating left-wing groups, dividing them, and conquering them.
And everybody knows that.
Look what they did to Martin Luther King.
They tried to get him to kill himself.
They tried to get him to commit suicide.
And now the Democrats cheer on the FBI.
Why?
Because the establishment media told them to, because they think the FBI is opposing Trump.
No, what the FBI opposes is democracy, and they oppose the Constitution, and Trump just happens to be in the way of that.
And so people don't realize.
So that's how I reach out to people.
I find common ground.
I did a show once in Los Angeles, was it in May?
And so I had a guy in my front row with a MAGA hat on, and I had a guy who was a confirmed Marxist.
You know he's a Marxist because he walked around, he had two books he gave me.
That's how you can tell.
And they started yelling at each other right in the middle of the show.
Then the one guy got right in his face and I was like, oh, they're going to be a fight.
Then they stood up and hugged each other.
And I was like, hey, maybe they were talking about the Fed.
Who knows what it was?
But they realized they have more in common than divide.
And that's the that's the scariest thing for them.
And that's again, I'm not making that up.
That's not hyperbole.
If people on the left and the right realize we share a common enemy, not this phony thing that Kamala Harris says, we have more in common.
She means she has more in common with Dick Cheney.
She doesn't mean she has more in common with a union or with a worker.
They smashed the union.
They smashed a railroad union strike here in the United States.
Flint still doesn't have clean water.
She's talking about we have more in common with establishment Republicans and establishment Democrats.
She doesn't mean populists.
She doesn't mean workers.
She doesn't mean students.
She doesn't mean the sick.
She doesn't mean any of that.
In fact, they still are not talking about giving people health care.
That's what you get.
When Barack Obama became president, he gave us a right-wing health care plan.
We're still living under today.
But anyway, I know I talk too much.
No, you don't.
You're perfect.
You talked a bit about the...
Way that if you focus on the issue and organize around the issue, it creates the opportunity for alliance.
When you focus on identity, it creates disruption.
I feel that the type of iconoclasm that emerged in a couple of years ago in your country, just prior to COVID, the pulling down of statues and stuff, I was watching that and I was thinking, where does this end?
Because of the complexity of these figures and the complexity of the history, ultimately if you pull down these statues and then pull down the ideas that they represent, What will be left?
You know, I wondered in my country, when would it be Winston Churchill?
And Winston Churchill's a complex guy in Dresden, and there's lots of arguments.
But prior to that, I'd been sort of more, I suppose, a somewhat more superficial way.
I was thinking of like, say, someone like Che Guevara, who like, of course, if like a Cuban nationalist were watching me now, and many of the people I know that live in America, They fled Cuba because of their reaction to Castro's communism.
They hate him and they would talk about the execution of gay people.
But my kind of excitement about Che Guevara when I was a kid was, oh wow, this dude was going around starting revolutions.
It's amazing.
And then my fascination with Gandhi is, wow, this guy was willing to sacrifice himself and stand up against the British and was able, through self-sacrifice and incredible leadership, to organize against what was then the most powerful empire in the world.
And then Martin Luther King, oh wow, this guy, because of his spiritual and religious principles, is willing to...
Malcolm X, the same thing.
They have every single one of those people now in the same way that statues were pulled down against sort of confederate leaders but ultimately presidents and people talking about, you know, George Washington being a slave owner and people talking about, you know, we have in our country people at football matches taking the knee at a soccer match, you know, in front of the royal family and the royal family are applauded And taking a knee against racism.
But the racism that we're talking about really is surely the racism that's persecutory and exploitative, imperial and colonial.
They exploited the people of the continent of Africa and that nation of India in order to create the royal family and the incredible colonial and imperial power that are, you know, the beneficiaries of movements that now can be used to divide ordinary working-class people along the lines of the basis of class.
The football match, white folk there feel sort of tense about it and sort of uncertain.
And like me, there's a lot of black footballers in my country.
If that's important to them, of course I'll be on board.
End racism.
Get racism out of sport.
Fantastic.
But it seems that it's being deployed in a way that makes sense when I look at it thusly.
During the COVID pandemic, I was thinking, They really seem to care a lot about us, locking us in our homes, making us tear this medication, making us wear these masks.
Where has this care been up till now with issues of poverty and inequality and homelessness and destitution and sending working class people into war?
Where is this care then?
And then I've started to think about the subject of migration in a similar way.
Huh, how come they really care about these refugees and it's our responsibility to offer a home to all these migrants?
Because where has that care been elsewise?
And it seems to me that the disruption of individual heroes who in one area of their life, let me be clear about this, in one area of their life represent greatness.
By destroying them, it's almost like the concept of greatness He's getting pulled by all Gandhi, slept in a bed with his
nieces, Che Guevara murdered homosexuals, Martin Luther King had affairs with his secretary, Malcolm
X maybe did sex work when he was young.
Like everyone's annihilated, everyone's required to be perfect and in this kind of
male, this nihilistic maelstrom Jimmy, we don't have any leaders to look to, any teachers,
any aspiration and meanwhile everything is getting banalized and we're sort of,
our expectations are so low and the kind of conversations we're having aren't addressing
What's actually life like in America for people in Michigan and Wisconsin?
What's it actually like to be in America?
Do you feel joy?
Do you feel connected to nature?
Do you feel connected to one another?
Do you feel connected to God?
And are you concerned about these wars?
That are happening everywhere, and the power of big food.
You know, again, we keep talking about Bobby, but I guess I love Bobby.
You know, like, he's bringing, suddenly you're talking about the toxicity of foods, the addictiveness of foods.
And I've seen sort of obvious dem supports going, oh, you don't have to eat that cereal if you don't want to.
Well, do you know what addiction means?
It means you do eat it if you don't want to.
And like, there's a kind of a nihilism somewhere in all of this, and I'm wondering, you know, what you feel about that.
And again, how do they continue to wave the flag of piety and of righteousness while advocating for war, while advocating for Big Pharma?
Like, earlier you talked about, I can't remember which example you gave, but when for a minute, like, Pfizer were heroes and people were getting Pfizer.
This is Big Pharma.
These people are getting sued out of court the whole time.
They kill people.
They advocate.
They'll do anything to make money.
They're anti-human organizations.
And I wonder if this anti-humane idea is something that's settling in with you or resonating with you.
Well, you know, you remember The establishment loved Martin Luther King Jr.
when he wanted black people to sit at lunch counters.
When did they turn on him?
Well, when he turned on the Vietnam War and he started a poor people's march.
It wasn't a black poor people's march, it was poor people's march.
So when he started to actually affect the establishment economically is when they came after him and that's when they killed him.
When he went against the war, the Democratic Party turned against him.
He paid op-eds from his own supporters.
You can't do this.
And so that's what you have to remember, is that they loved identity politics.
They loved to prop it up until it cost them.
That's why they love all this.
So I try to tell people that the trans issue, right?
So I have no bigotry towards trans people.
I support them and support their ability to live their life the way they want to without discrimination.
And you should treat them how you want to be treated.
But at the same with the overemphasis of this issue.
Uh, that affects maybe, you know, a small, very small percentage of the population is because that's a way for people like BlackRock and State Street and Vanguard to, as they're raping the planet and screwing workers, They can wrap themselves in a patina of virtue, and they can say, look, I'm for trans, I'm for LGBTQ, and it's all about that now.
We used to make a joke about it, you know?
You would put a gay pride flag on a bomb and go, that's a Democrat bomb.
And so they're doing that now.
They're literally putting, you know, and so that's what that's all about.
It's all about faking people out with identity politics.
And identity politics is to make sure people don't come together.
It's to give the people who are raping the planet and screwing the workers cover.
And, you know, the joke I say, you know, if it was 1860, the Democrats wouldn't be trying to fix slavery.
They'd be bragging about their first transgendered slave owner.
And that's that's where we're at today.
And so that's what that's all about.
And yes, it is.
They the establishment certainly doesn't care about people.
And, you know, the endless wars.
It's just amazing how now they've the people who the Democratic Party is not the Democratic Party that I grew up in.
They're not the Democrats that I grew up admiring.
Right?
They're now pro-censorship, which is the hallmark of authoritarian dictators.
And again, they wrap it in, we're helping you.
We're only shutting up the bad people.
Right?
And the misinformation and disinformation.
Well, the biggest purveyor of misinformation and disinformation is the government.
Second is the corporate media.
And a far distant third are randos on social media.
But they don't want to tell you that.
They want to think that you're... That's what every dictator says.
We're keeping out the bad influence of the outsiders.
So the Democratic Party is now pro-censorship, just like a dictator.
They're pro-war.
They're pro-war.
They're anti-choice.
They used to say, my body, my choice.
When did they stop saying that?
During COVID, when they wanted to force you to take an experimental medical treatment with no long-term studies.
So then they went from being pro-choice to pro-abortion, which is the weirdest sounding thing.
It's like being pro-amputation.
It's like, no, if you have to do it, do it, but I'm not going to be excited about it.
And so that so they don't say that anymore.
My body, my choice, because they don't mean that because their corporate overlords don't want them to say that.
So that's the that's the world we're living in.
And, you know, Bobby talks about there's a shift in the parties happening.
I don't really think that's happening.
I think that maybe there's a populist message coming from the Trump campaign now and they were going to do to a populist, whether it's a populist left, whether it's the populist right, whether it's an independent populist, what they're doing to Trump and Bobby, they'll do to anybody who stands up at a populist message.
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First, Do No Farm.
He talked at length about the ozempic crisis and the way that it's being brought about.
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I mean, this is just absolutely criminal what's happening and it needs accountability.
I really appreciate the way that you continually stitch back to that idea.
It's a very disciplined way to communicate and broadcast.
I always learn a lot when I listen to you, but I like most of all the way that you continue to push that important message in a way that I I feel that perhaps, I realize this, you know, like I'm on Rumble, I love Rumble, they really supported me.
A lot of the native Rumble broadcasters are of the right, so they don't have no brinkmanship, you know, I'm talking about people that I respect over here, Stephen Crow does say, Dan Bongino, some of the big, they're not like in the back of their minds like, oh how does this, you know, they're fully committed.
So, I learn a lot from listening to how you navigate, because sometimes I get just lost out here, I'm English, I'm from this country, and I know a lot of people that culturally are from comparable backgrounds to me feel a sort of vagrancy, like who are we supposed to, what are we meant to do, we've been coached about Trump, you know, it's interesting, and I feel like what we've got to
Participate in is at least helping people to observe and it really, I love it to hear you inventory, this is how I feel about the issue of trans, this is how I feel about this issue, you know, like to just lay it out there because it can get so tribal and people, people on both sides, like lean into the uglier parts of the argument.
I'm never, I'm not comfortable with that stuff.
I don't like that.
I don't like hatred and condemnation.
Of course I do it and suffer from it, but it's not something I'm trying to showcase as part of my personality.
It's a flaw.
You know when you see like recently Jimmy like Zelensky signing those bombs with Josh Shapiro and Trump in his meeting with Zelensky advocating for peace while Biden at the UN was further agitating for an ongoing conflict and foreclosing on the possibility of a peaceful negotiation on this subject of war.
Isn't that vivid enough for people to see that this is an important political moment for people to come together?
How do you think like a, you know, like you see podcasters that are pro Kamala that go to White House dinners and stuff or White House events.
What are they saying to themselves with the Zelensky signing bombs, with the Biden, you know, coming out of his sepulture for a moment just to sort of advocate for further war?
And Trump saying, peace deal necessary.
I don't know how they're managing that space.
Well, they're definitely doing mental gymnastics, that's for sure.
And they're pretending.
Along with the Democratic Party and Kamala Harris, they're pretending that somehow she isn't currently in office right now.
I see Tim Walz's wife give a speech who says, we're going to turn the page.
Well, you know who's on the page you're turning?
Kamala Harris.
You know who's on the next page?
Kamala Harris.
She's on all the pages.
I think we should slam that book shut.
That's what I think.
And so that's what they're doing now.
They're pretending.
And so I don't know how people who consider themselves lefties can support Kamala Harris, right?
Now, I have a red line when it comes to... I will amplify help and work with anybody to help end war.
Right?
So if Trump's for ending that war, I'll do whatever I can to help end the Ukraine war.
And when I hear Bobby on stage at a Trump rally say we have to end those endless wars, invest that money back in America, and the whole place cheers, a stadium full of Republican voters cheers, that's what scares them, right?
Because that's something I could cheer for.
That's what people on the left are supposed to be cheering for.
That's when we realize that we have the same common interests.
We're not as different as people make us.
We're not the cartoon caricatures that the corporate media makes us out to be.
When Bobby says he wants to take on Big Agra, and he wants to get the corruption out of the FDA and the CDC, and he wants to take on Big Pharma, And a stadium full of Republican voters cheer that on.
I'm like, I can cheer that on.
So that again, that is the message that scares them.
And that's why they keep on distracting you with everything possible.
And yeah, they don't want to talk about how they try to corner Trump going, well, don't you want Ukraine to win?
He says, I want the war to end so people stop dying.
And right now it's obvious if you anybody who knows anything about this from Chomsky to to Henry Kissinger to Mersheimer and everybody in between has said that this is a NATO provoked war.
We shouldn't be doing this.
And the last thing you want to do is push Uh, Russia closer to China, which is exactly what's happened.
So all this stuff that they said was going to happen under Donald Trump, we're closer to nuclear war right now than we ever been.
There's a third world war.
It looks like it might break out in the Middle East right now because of our support for Israel and their apartheid state.
All these things that they said was going to happen under Trump is happening right now because who is Joe Biden and Kamala Harris?
They're neocons.
They're not liberals, they're not lefty, they're illiberal neocon warmongers, and they don't run things right now.
Who's running the country?
The country's being run by the military-industrial complex, a handful of billionaires, and Wall Street, like it always is.
And you're not allowed to become president unless they first approve of you, just like we know they approved of Barack Obama from that email from Wall Street.
To his campaign.
We know that's who's running the country, because if it was really being run in the interest of the people, we wouldn't have people living under every bridge.
We would have healthcare for everybody.
We wouldn't have education that bankrupted you.
We wouldn't have housing prices that half the country can't afford a house now in the United States.
So it's not being run in the interest of the people, and it hasn't been for a long time.
And when people wake up to that, but the problem is we're not given a real choice.
Especially in our elections.
So now there's a choice to end the Ukraine war, but the problem was the way Trump governed in his first administration, his first term, he said, I'm going to go to Washington and drain the swamp.
Well, he drained the swamp, and right at the bottom of that swamp, he found his cabinet.
It was filled with the swamp, right?
The worst people in the world, the John Boltons, the Pompeos.
The head of Exxon became his Secretary of State.
I mean, it's just, it was ugly.
So now Bobby is going to try to convince people that, no, he didn't know what he was doing in the first term, and I'm going to show him how to do it this term.
So that's all we have to hope.
It's a sliver of hope.
That's all people have now.
But what people really need to do to come is workers, just like what happened on Staten Island, workers need to wake up like the truckers did in Canada and come together.
That's how propagandized people are in America.
The greatest trick of propaganda is to make you think you're not propagandized.
That's the beauty.
They don't see it.
They think propaganda is what happens in China or what happens in Russia.
They don't realize that we're so propagandized in America, we can't tell the difference between
a Nazi and a freedom fighter.
We look at the freedom fighters, the truckers in Canada, we call them Nazis.
We look at the Nazis in Ukraine and we call them freedom fighters.
That's how backwards and upside down we are in the United States right now.
And that's why the United States looks the way it is.
Why workers are living paycheck to paycheck, can't afford their own housing, go bankrupt when they get sick, and people are living under every bridge.
This is the result of the corporate takeover of your... You know, that's the funny thing.
They go, well, you know, January 6 undermined our democracy.
I've had people say that to me.
January 6 undermined our democracy.
That's adorable, because you don't live in a democracy.
You live in an oligarchy.
Your democracy was stolen from you decades ago by corporations, which is why workers haven't had a raise since 1980.
And when are you going to get pissed off about that?
The answer is never, unless the guy on the television tells them to get pissed off.
Well, I'm on the television now, and I'm telling them to get pissed off about that, and we need more people with that message.
On Locals, one of my favorite assets that we make for you guys is Russell Brand's stand-up breakdown.
Since the beginning of this, I've been thinking about and talking about George Carlin a whole bunch and some of his great, informative, almost foundational artifacts of stand-up comedy.
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I know you love it too, because you lot are always using it in the comments, always citing him and quoting him.
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It's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
And they end on yet another classic quotation.
What a marvellous piece of stand-up.
That should be shown in schools.
It won't be, of course, because in schools now, as always, they want you to be compliant and obedient and captured, spellbound and malleable.
exactly the values that George Carlin stood against, articulated so beautifully.
There's a magical elixir that emerges, I think, when you blend together imperialism
with consumerism.
The level of propaganda you're talking about, the ability of search engines like Google and social media platforms with the exception of Rumble and X to manage the information in the manner that they do, that reaches most people, that most people live now in a kind of It's a peculiar and cellular reality, it seems to me at least.
I don't live in your country but I feel when I'm here that there is a kind of a capture has taken place that prohibits the unity that you advocate for so eloquently.
I was in a mall yesterday in Atlanta and it was all fine brands, real beautiful kind of mall.
And classical music was playing right loud too, but it was more clockwork orange than soothing.
It was kind of a bludgeoning classical music rather than an uplifting.
I had to use a restroom when I was there, and in spite of the sort of sanitary and immaculate nature of the mall itself, when I went to the bathroom, Jimmy, it was like a jail.
It was like the toilet in a jail.
Like the door stops there and ends there.
Cut off, you might be wearing a sort of an aluminium or aluminium belt to sort of cover yourself as you squat in there.
It was like some sort of unidentifiable effluvia splattered on the floor.
I felt like this is what they think of us really.
You know, out front it's all branding and logos and opportunity and choice, but when you have to do something functional and necessary, animal and human and part of life, they just herd you in like an animal with no expense afforded.
This is what I feel like we're living in here, like that people don't know they're propagandized because the propaganda is so beautiful and varied, as has been observed before, I think, by your great George Carlin, you know, or any kind of bagel you want, but two political parties.
And this is it's reached a condition now that is only The only hope offered is because they appear to be in some liminal space when it comes to the control of information.
Our conversation began with you talking about Brexit and Trump, both of which it seems at the time were informed by nationalism.
But nationalism is an understandable response to globalism.
And nationalism, if it's not grounded in exclusivity and bigotry when it comes to ethnicity and culture,
for example, the UK, it's pretty obvious what the history of the UK is,
pretty obvious what the kind of culture that would organically emerge out of that would be.
And your country, which has always been the celebrated melting pot, a nation of immigrants,
aside from, of course, the native people that are already here and the complexity of slavery.
The idea that American nationalism could be inclusive culturally, could be inclusive racially, that too is a... and indeed that we are all on one planet together when you have a kind of a cosmic and spiritual perspective on that.
Seems like it could unlock something through the miracle of the communication we're afforded that could be a genuine threat.
I spoke to the other guy that started Wikileaks.
I bet you've had him on.
There's the main one that gets the credit, Jimmy Whale.
And then there's some sort of dude in the background who's angry about Wikileaks now.
And he says, like, you know, unified by decentralized...
Oh yeah, Wikipedia, that is what I mean.
Yeah, I mean Wikipedia, thank you.
Like, him, that guy, he said the phrase, decentralised but unified.
And that's what I feel would be afforded if people were willing to come together on the basis of issues.
Do we want Big Pharma having that much power?
Do we want the military industrial complex having that much power?
Do we want these endless wars?
Do you want to live in poverty?
Do you want to live in like... Once the issues are sort of moved back to the centre, you can't have this sort of mad glistening spectacle That benefits from our continual division.
And I do think that even something like this that we've participated in, Rescue the Republic, which I hope has gone well and people will have seen now, it does offer us a kind of opportunity for unity that allows us to say, well, you know, yeah, you might have this religion or this purview or this aspect of identity that's important to you, but this is what you've got to oppose.
And like that minute when you said, Occupy and Tea Party coming together, that's it, it's over.
And then suddenly Black Rock and State Street and deep state bureaucracies are in serious trouble if people were to recognise that power.
I thought for a while there's no political equivalent, for obvious reasons, of say Uber or Airbnb, like aggregating things.
Hey, all these people could be renting rooms in their apartment.
Everyone could just drive a car and we could aggregate, you know, because these are for-profit organizations or whatever.
But the technology suggests that states and towns and cities and nations could be run with mass decentralization, reduction in state power, ability to oppose corporate power.
Of course, the will is not there, and the spaces where such things might be discussed have been increasingly controlled.
Seems almost like a throwback that George Soros' Purchasing, you know, 300 radio stations and Bill Gates is investing hundreds of millions in media.
But the control of media space is still, it seems, totally significant, isn't it?
It's 100% significant.
And it looks, just look how they're, so another great way that the establishment divides people is through immigration, unfettered immigration and open borders.
And you know, but in 2015, Bernie Sanders used to say that was a Koch brothers trick, that they wanted open borders to suppress the wages of workers, which of course they do.
So if there's a tight labor market, they want to flood the country with immigrants, but it's even more nefarious than that.
Like, so this latest thing that's happened was with the Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, which is where JD Vance is from Ohio.
And so They want you to be angry at the immigrants.
What we used to do is we used to outsource our jobs.
We used to take good jobs, turn them into shitty paying jobs, and export them to third world countries.
But now what we're doing is we're just bringing in the poor people right into our own country to take the jobs and suppress them.
There used to be $24-$25 an hour jobs in Springfield.
Now they're down to $20.
They take them with benefits.
They take the benefits away.
They make them $20 an hour job.
They turn them over to a temp agency who takes $5 off the top of that.
So now you have poor, desperate people working for $15 an hour.
And how did they become poor, desperate people?
Well, through imperialism.
That's the part of the story that the corporate media will never tell you.
How do those people from Haiti become so desperate for low-paying jobs?
They want to leave their own country and come to the middle of nowhere to do a job at a factory.
Because the United States have been occupying and decimating that country since the early 1900s.
Right now, currently, we're paying Kenya $100 million to send a bunch of thugs over to Haiti to suppress because now the militias that are on the ground are realizing they're starting to coalesce to come together to overthrow the puppet government that the United States installed in Haiti, and so we can't have that.
So literally we paid Kenya, their corrupt government, $100 million to send thugs, their military,
over to Haiti to keep the people divided, suppress those people from coming together and rising up.
That's why Haitians are desperate.
Why are Venezuelans coming here?
Why do we have all the people?
So the trick is they want you to be angry at the immigrant.
They want poor working people to be angrier at poorer, more desperate people, at immigrants.
So what I always tell people, if you find yourself being angry at someone lower on the economic ladder than you, it's a good chance you're being manipulated by someone higher on the economic ladder than you.
Why are Venezuelans poor?
Why have 7 million Venezuelans left their own country?
Many of them come here.
Because we've been sanctioning the hell out of that country.
Why?
Because there's more oil in Venezuela than there is in Saudi Arabia.
And once I found that out, I knew it was just a matter of time before we were going to bring democracy to Venezuela.
And that's exactly what they do it under the guise of.
That's what Juan Guaido was all about.
Trump had him at the State of the Union address.
He's trying to recognize that Juan Guaido is the leader of Venezuela, not Maduro.
I try to tell people the only reason you have an opinion about an election in Venezuela is because the establishment wants you to have an opinion and they want you to have that opinion that that wasn't a real election.
Really?
So who?
Venezuela could work out their own problem.
The only reason you have an opinion and you want to go smash those communists is because you've been manipulated by propaganda that comes from the economic hitmen billionaires in the West Through their corporate-owned media to make you have an opinion, so when they go into Venezuela and steal their natural resources, you think they're doing it for the help of the people.
Just like they said we were helping the people in Iraq.
Just like they said we were helping the people in Libya.
Just like they said we were helping the people in Syria.
Just like they said we were helping the people in Afghanistan.
Just like they say we're helping the people in Ukraine.
We ain't helping people.
If they wanted to help people, they would start with the people right outside their front fucking door.
But they don't.
They don't care that all the workers can't afford a house.
They live paycheck to paycheck.
They go bankrupt when they get sick and they can't afford education.
If they give it, they don't give a shit.
About anybody.
So that's what people need to wake up to.
Don't be angry at the immigrant.
Be angry at the system, the imperialistic system that is run by economic hitmen, billionaires, and has always been run that way for over a hundred years in the West.
That's what you should be angry at.
Why don't we stop saying, hey, if Cuba's government and their communist government is so bad, why do we have to sanction the shit out of it?
Why can't it just collapse on its own?
Same thing with Venezuela.
If their way of doing things, if their socialism is so bad, why do we have to sanction the shit out of it?
And, well, the reason why we sanction them is to make people desperate, so to hurt regular people, so then they become so desperate that they overthrow their government, and who's they gonna overthrow?
Well, then the CIA floods that country with billions of dollars to tell them who to overthrow, and then they can install a puppet, and that's the way the world works, and that's what people need to understand.
Yeah, Jimmy Dore!
Thank you for being Jimmy Dore!
Okay, thanks for having me.
That was amazing.
That was brilliant, that was brilliant.
Thank you so much for joining us for this very special edition of Stay Free with Russell Brand from Washington DC.
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