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Hello, welcome to the Republican National Convention where I'm doing Stay Free with Russell Brand.
You'll see around me, these are some of the people that sponsor this experience.
Pawsitive, for example, that's a type of treat for your dog.
1775, that's a type of coffee, celebrating a revolution that I came out of rather badly.
And with me just here is my new friend, Andrew Clavin, who is, you're too relaxed.
I'm too relaxed.
I was going to tell you to relax.
I thought I'd better ask Andrew Clavin to relax.
But then I saw you, you looked like you were about to go to sleep.
I was going to doze off, yeah.
I'm tired, you know.
You seem like the very sort of person who could get a job guarding the perimeter at a Trump rally.
You seem like the very sort of person who wouldn't notice whether or not a roof was too slopey.
It was too slopey.
I can't get up there.
I kept sliding off.
They didn't cover this in training!
Gravity!
It's pulling me that way!
I know, it was Mission Impossible, the slope roof.
What do you think, have you ever been at a Republican National Convention before?
This is my first time.
Is it blowing your...
I mean, don't take this the wrong way, tiny mind.
My tiny mind is a little bit blown, you know?
It's a lot of people I know here, a lot of people I recognize.
What worries me, Andrew, is the continual power dynamics and the obsession and infatuation with power.
Who's on the way up?
Who's on the way down?
Am I good enough, mum?
Am I good enough?
Why did they choose J.D.
Vance?
Well, maybe because he overcame the odds.
Yes, well, he's good.
I like him.
He was my choice.
He was my choice.
Yeah, I would have definitely gone with J.D.
Vance.
He's smart.
Yeah.
He's got that nice beard.
He's got that nice beard.
Yes, and people keep saying he attacked Trump and that's true, but he didn't attack what
Trump stood for.
He said, "I agree with what Trump stands for."
He just thought, you know, he was enmeshed in that.
People can change their mind.
Yes, and he was enmeshed in that East Coast.
Ah, the East Coast.
They were loving his book and everything.
Productive liberalism and they loved his book.
That's it.
Hey Jenna, will you show, look over there, Dan Bongino is over there.
It's always worth knowing that just over there is Dan Bongino.
You could kill us at any second.
Every so often I just check in because knowing as I do, come back to us, knowing as I do that he has the ability to kill us.
If Dan Bongino doesn't kill you, It's simply his choice.
He can kill me if he wants, he can.
I love you!
The Bongino Army is an army of light.
I love you!
(laughing)
It's like, no, it is like God.
The Bongino army is an army of light.
Not Luciferian light, the light of love.
Thank you for bringing me into their attention.
We live as long as Dan says we can.
That's basically it.
We're living here by his grace.
Now look, I've got a lot of things to ask you about.
Firstly, let's talk a little bit about this assassination attempt.
In a minute, we've got Ron Johnson coming on the show.
If you're watching this now, we've got Ron Johnson coming up.
We've got Marjorie Taylor Greene coming up.
And now we are with the beautiful and adorable Andrew Clavin.
And I want to talk to you in particular about the atmosphere here in the sort of immediate aftermath of this assassination attempt.
Neva, you and I are both Republican National Convention virgins.
Do you feel that you're being attacked for even being here?
Or do you think that the people that follow you are quite happy?
No, I'm not being attacked for being here.
First of all, I've been attacked for so long by so many people that it wouldn't matter, but no, this is basically where the action is, right?
And it's where Trump is, and he's the center of attention, and that's the way it should be.
How do you feel about being around these power dynamics?
The power dynamics that exist in media, and furthermore, the power dynamics that obviously exist within politics.
Do you feel somewhat corrupted by it, or disturbed?
Yes.
In fact, almost everybody.
Because first of all, they wouldn't be here if they weren't into those power dynamics.
They enter it.
I got into it very late so I don't give a damn.
How did you get into it?
All my life I've been a writer of novels and screenplays and books and somehow I just started talking about... I lived in England for seven years in the 90s.
Where?
In London.
Whereabouts?
In South Kent.
What exact bit?
What was the exact street?
What was your address?
What was your postcode?
Not zip code, postcode, because that's what we call it there.
I don't remember my postcode.
I was right near that cemetery on the... I was in Colherne Court, you know Colherne Court?
Yeah, I do actually.
Princess Di lived there when she was Miss Di.
God rest her eternal soul, because she's a woman that was hunted and condemned and attacked by the legacy media.
You know, those kind of odd secular sacrifices that take place.
You know, that there are certain figures, and maybe we even saw one, you know, in the attempted Trump assassination.
People are obviously going to see this as a near-miraculous event.
It is a near-miraculous event.
It's a near-miraculous event because of the head turn.
Yep, yep.
And, you know, if God had meant for him to go, he'd be gone, right?
There's no question.
It's like Bongino, isn't it?
Exactly.
If God says you're dead, you're dead.
If Bongino says I'm going to kill you, how are you going to stop him?
With a mop?
A mop?
Just grab something from nearby, like Jason Bourne.
Oh no, he's killed me anyway.
Bongino can turn a mop into an AR-15.
Of course he could.
He could turn that into a wooden AR-15, which is the weapon of the moment.
Mate, I want to ask you this.
I want to ask you this.
Do you see, then, as a... You converted to Christianity at the same age as me, 49.
Yes, really?
In fact, I was just 48.
Oh, is that right?
I was just 48, right, when I converted to Christianity.
But I'm from a sort of a secular background where I had no connection to our Lord and Savior, Jesus.
You are from... You're racially and religiously Jewish, is that correct?
Well, I was a secular Jew.
I had no relationship to God either, and I basically was involved in that society of Let's call them intellectuals politely, where to talk about God was to be nuts, was to be kind of crazy and weird and maybe even conservative, which would be even worse.
And so it took a long time for me to break free.
Break free from the sort of conditioning and how Christianity is portrayed as a kind of madcap, slightly ill-conceived ideology.
In old fashion.
Superstitious.
And did you find, now I found, about two weeks, three weeks after I was baptized, my wife, who knows me better than anyone, turned to me and said, you're a totally different person.
You're so much more serene and so much more calm.
Have you experienced some of that?
Yeah, a lot of people are saying that the Lord is going to work in me, that I'm changing from within.
Now, I've been on a spiritual journey for a while because I'm in recovery from the old addiction to drugs and alcohol.
And so that's been a process of continual change.
But this idea of faith, Andrew, of moving back to a position of faith, it's been very relevant while present at the Republican National Convention.
Precisely because of all of the power.
A good many people are Christians here and there's so much talk of Christianity and so much warmth.
I've noticed people talking to me about our Lord and talking to me about my faith.
But also, you know, even within myself and with other people, I sense the ongoing power dynamics, the allure of power.
Who is it that in this moment is in the ascendancy?
Who is it that is tarnished?
And do you know one of the things, I was talking to the people from CPAC earlier.
That's important isn't it, CPAC?
Isn't that one of the most influential lobbying groups?
For young people, yeah.
So I was talking to them.
And I said, what though are we doing about inequality, in particular economic inequality, and like our Lord and Saviour, serving the poorest and most vulnerable people?
But then sadly a bad thing happened, because a golf buggy arrived, and there was only enough room for me to get in it, and I told them all to fuck off.
Hold on a minute.
These systems of inequality, it turns out that you've got to practice it in your actual life.
No, don't do that.
Don't do that.
No, no.
You don't want to go down that road.
What do you think about that?
When you're in a place like the Republican National Convention and you have some concerns that it's run ultimately by corporatism and maybe even global interests that are transcendent of sovereignty, Do you feel like, well, everyone's talking about Christianity, but where is the Christianity that matters?
You know, I tell you why I don't feel that way.
The one thing Jesus never said was that the world was going to become a better place.
He never said, make the world a better place.
Didn't he?
No, the world remains exactly as it is.
He said, in the world you will have trouble.
And so it's our job to kind of move through these situations that are the way the world works as an influence of Christ.
But like, what about Do not think that our function here is to bring his kingdom to earth.
No, he's doing that.
We're just here to be nice and be grateful.
Not to be nice, but to in fact extend that idea into the world.
But it's not going to... The idea is not going to hit the world and suddenly a ball of light will happen and there won't be any politics, there won't be any capitalism.
That's not the way it's going to work.
And it never has worked that way, right?
It's been a long time.
And it's actually... What we see is the cycles of history continue, the methods of history continue, politics, power.
Life, death, war, they all continue.
But we can actually bring into the world just enough light that even if you get one person, even if one person is brought around to the light of God, that's a big, that's an infinite victory.
Alright, so if you're watching this right now, please get brought around to the light of God because then I'll have done my work for the day.
Let's know in the chat if you have any comments for beloved Andrew Clavin.
And of course we've got Ron Johnson, Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin coming on, who from the get-go was suspicious about COVID and who believes that politics of course can be a conduit and vessel for the greatness of our Lord and Saviour.
I wonder though, Andrew, when you say something like, you know, we're just gonna be happy to work on one person on a one-at-a-time basis and that the world has always had its rhythms, But it sometimes sounds like the kind of nihilism and futility that materialists, rationalists, individualists, and nihilists have.
No, I'm certainly not a nihilist in any way.
No, I figure.
But I do think that the promise, this idea that the world is going to become a better place, and the world has become a better place because of Christianity.
It has infused itself into our culture to the point where it's almost become invisible, which is one of the problems we're suffering from.
You know, I mean, it's good It's power for good has actually filtered into the entire society so that we don't see it anymore.
And we think it's just there.
This is just the way people are.
It's just the way they just give women rights.
They're just nice to one another.
That's not true.
The world is much, much different than it was on the day Christ died.
And that is because of his power and his influence.
So it does work, but it doesn't work in the sense that suddenly you're going to turn off the human nature.
Human nature is broken.
People are sinful.
That's going to continue to happen.
And the enemy is at work in us, Andrew.
The enemy is at work in us through sin, and it's always an option.
Now, in the figure of Donald Trump, we have, I suppose, a relatively, certainly in the eyes of those that adore him, a somewhat messianic figure.
And after recent events, as we've already touched upon, there's a likelihood that it will be further conveyed as a kind of divine intervention.
When we talk about the transformation of, say, J.D.
Vance, not transformation, the change of his perspective.
He was a never-Trumper.
Now he's as Trumpy as it's possible to be.
VP to Trump.
What do you think is the perspective that the people that loathe Trump continue to maintain?
Vulgarian.
Authoritarian.
Hitlerian.
Dictator!
How is it that that perspective is maintained?
Do you think, and what do you think is the legitimacy of this, you know, sort of almost ongoing hysterical demonization?
Is there any legitimacy in it?
Like, for example, sometimes you hear Tucker talk and he goes, you know, and he makes mistakes.
Donald Trump's not perfect.
He makes mistakes, you know, that kind of stuff.
What do you think is the fallibility and what do you think is the hysteria?
Well, first of all, if you ask some of these people, what has Trump done that's racist?
What has he done that's fascist?
Where's the Hitler comparison come from?
They get very agitated because there is no place where that connection can be actually made.
However, Trump has one thing that he does that drives people crazy, which is that he does not care what the mainstream, what, you know, they call it the clerisy, the upper class, people who set the opinions, who run the media, who run Hollywood, who run the places where cool is made cool.
He doesn't care.
And that drives them insane.
It's dangerous.
Because all they do is silence people.
Everything they do is to tell you to shut up.
You're racist.
Shut up.
You're sexist.
Shut up.
It's always a way of keeping you from saying, you know, what you're doing is actually hurting people.
And it hurts the least of people.
You know, who suffers from left-wing policies?
It's always the poor.
It is always the poor.
It's incredibly that this new type of authoritarianism that is lackard and shellacked in compassion is what startles and scares me most, Andrew, that it's not like the bold authoritarianism that we were used to a century ago, where people say, we know what's right, you don't know what's right, we are going to use power to impose our will.
Yes.
No, this is like, we're going to protect you.
We're going to help you.
We're going to protect these vulnerable people.
But as you say, it doesn't seem like vulnerable people are being assisted at all.
It seems like power is coalescing around a set of either corporate and commercial interests, and in particular state bureaucracies.
And that seems to be its function.
Why are they using compassion in this way?
Well, you know, C.S.
Lewis said that there's nothing worse than a compassionate dictator, a compassionate tyrant, because you can never convince them that they're actually a tyrant.
They always think they're doing the good thing.
And I think that's important to the left.
I think virtue, look, because we're sinful, we're always ashamed.
We always have this element of shame.
We're always trying to convince ourselves and other people that we're virtuous.
I mean, listen, if you listen to the way people talk, I would say maybe 75% of the words coming out of their mouth are about Look, I'm a good guy.
I'm a good guy, you know?
That is it, isn't it?
Yeah, and it's so liberating when you find Christ and you can say, I'm not a good guy.
I failed, I'm a sinner, I'm redeemed.
That conversation is over, basically.
That's a relief, isn't it?
I don't have to pretend to be nice.
Because that is always it.
I care a lot more about vulnerable people than you do.
You don't care about them.
You're bad.
I should probably be in charge, because you're a racist.
That's right.
So, let us be in charge.
Get in your house!
And you cannot say, oh, you know, the thing that you're doing doesn't work, it's not effective, because then you're racist.
You can't say, oh, this is giving you more power, but it's actually taking freedom away from people, because then you're racist.
And now that we've gotten to the point where they're sexually butchering children because they think they can turn them into another sex, it's kind of demonic.
You don't think that that is about compassion?
You don't think that is about these children have got an inherent desire or a psychic connection to an idea of gender that is transcendent of their biological identity and we have to protect them?
You don't think that's what it is?
I think it's insane and demonic.
It's insanely demonic.
Can I ask you please, Andrew, about... We've discussed freedom a little and a minute ago, I can't remember whether we were on the show or not, forgive me, it might have been before, because we were talking just like normal people, weren't we?
I know, almost.
We existed before this happened.
That's strange to say, right?
And we were carrying on talking and being ourselves during that time.
Well, during that time when we were speaking as free human beings and Christians to one another, I said that Andrew Breitbart said that thing that...
That technology is... No, they might even be... Politics is downstream from culture.
And I think that politics is downstream of technology.
So, with a principle like free speech and freedom, how do you think that you can even assert and exert the type of control that we're discussing now that we have this kind of technology where fully immersive communicative systems are already in action?
I think this is exactly what almost everything that's happening is about.
It is about that the internet gave everyone a voice, a democratized speech, and that took control away from what In this country was three essential networks all saying the same thing all taking the same attitudes so now you have anybody with an opinion can say things and they start to say well wait a minute wait a minute we're the gatekeepers you know my feeling is you know what the people will work it out the people will figure out let's hear the different opinions let them talk it out let them argue it out but the fact is in the last
I don't know, say 20 years, the crackdown on speech, the crackdown on freedom and communication has been almost as powerful as the liberation through the internet.
They hate it, don't they?
They hate it.
They hate it.
They hate, but they're not in charge anymore, these elites.
What does that say on there?
Off YouTube timer, Ron Johnson.
Ron Johnson, Senator Ron Johnson, who's over there.
Jenna, would you show the viewers Ron Johnson?
Ron Johnson, the Senator, is just over there, very kindly waiting.
Excuse me eating this apple.
Ron Johnson and I met yesterday at our hotel.
Don't worry, there's nothing else to that story.
We had the briefest conversation.
This is not old school politics, where it led to a terrible scandal.
Ron Johnson and I had a brief conversation, and we're going to resume that conversation in a second.
And we'll be talking about, well, I've got a lot of things to talk about, in particular, the pandemic era.
If you're watching us on YouTube, we're going to leave now, but we're going to continue.
Oh, I've got apple on my finger.
I'm going to continue talking to Andrew Clayton for a little while.
Then we're going to be talking to Ron Johnson.
And we're going to be talking to Marjorie Taylor Greene and Dan Bongino's over there.
Actually, over the course of our conversation, Andrew, I've become incredibly confident and I've decided that I'm going to take him on in hand-to-hand combat.
I think I want to watch that.
It'll only be a couple of seconds.
It's going to be brief.
It's going to be brief, I would have thought.
It will be a brief assault before Dan Bongino asserts his authority.
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Andrew, do you feel like we've discussed all of these topics?
We've discussed the influence of wokeness on comedy and the emergence of Shane Gillis.
Do you feel like we've discussed that adequately?
We haven't, have we?
Every detail.
No, we haven't at all.
Have we discussed free speech?
Yes.
A little bit, yeah.
We've covered that.
I think we've definitively covered that.
And media, we've talked about new media, Hollywood, Trusted News Initiative.
We didn't talk about the Trusted News Initiative, but we implied that there are cadres of controlling groups.
Do we need to wrap it up because Ron Johnson's on a limited schedule?
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Andrew, thank you so much for joining us.
It's such a great pleasure to have you on.
If you want me to come on your show, I'll come on it.
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With Senator Ron Johnson, the Senator of Wisconsin, we're in Wisconsin, what could be more perfect than that?
Now, I've had some parking fines and I don't want to pay them.
What can you do to help me to corruptly avoid paying my social dues?
Absolutely nothing.
That's right.
Render on to Caesar.
Is it a bit weird when Milwaukee gets all penitentiary-ed off into Hunger Games like this?
Like all these red zone, yellow zone.
How do you feel?
Do you think the people of Milwaukee like it or do you think they feel inhibited?
I think people wanted to make sure there was no violence.
That people would come here to Milwaukee and enjoy the city.
And again, you get outside the security zone, you can enjoy our beautiful waterfront.
And in particular, you can meet Wisconsinites.
I love them!
And understand how very nice the people are.
I love Wisconsin, and I love Wisconsinites.
There's been so many different police forces here.
There's the ones that wear those hats like the Mounties.
There's... I mean, there was... I met two police officers this morning when I was getting my coffee.
They were so cuddly and so lovely.
I mean, they only had a brief cuddle.
They had body cameras on.
You can't cuddle someone too tight if they're wearing a body camera.
You know what I think is extraordinary about this place?
Incredible, easy warmth.
How does it feel to be the senator of a state and have this influx of extraordinary power?
Because me, I struggle even having Dan Bongino over there because of my ego.
You feel very proud, honestly, because, again, we're seeing all these delegates from all over the country.
Again, I don't know if they expected to see three-foot snow drifts or what.
They're coming.
Milwaukee, this is a beautiful place.
You know, Wisconsin is just so nice.
You know, those law enforcement officers also, just very nice and very gracious.
And we needed A large police presence to deter any kind of violence, any kind of disruption.
So far it's worked out well.
Because everybody, bipartisan basis, from Mayor Johnson, Governor Evers, myself, we want people to experience Milwaukee, Wisconsin, leave here with a really favorable impression.
I'm still hoping and praying that that lasts until Friday morning.
In his name I pray also.
Senator Ron Johnson, this is my challenge.
Is that in acknowledging the requirement for authority in order to maintain order aren't we accepting that there's a degree of regulation and therefore government and bureaucracy that's required in order to sustain systems of order and isn't republicanism ultimately founded upon the minimalization of government and how do we set a standard like the minimalization of government and given that there is the amount of bureaucracy there currently is under that sort of like one of the main bugbears
of the Republican movement, the amount of bureaucracy in the neoliberal establishment
under the Democrats.
How was it that they were able to impose such corruption during the pandemic period?
Start first of all, would you with that first bit and then move on to the corruption during the pandemic?
'Cause I know you were well on that world fast.
Well, first of all, as a believer in Jesus, you realize that it was Christ that said,
"Render onto Caesar."
So, Jesus Christ recognized the fact that we need government.
If we don't wanna live in chaos and anarchy, we need government.
The genius of our founding fathers, who came from tyrannical monarchies and other governments,
is they realized-- - Excuse me.
Some of those people came from England.
I realize that.
This is a very nice place.
Precisely.
But there's also monarchy.
Yeah, tyrannical.
England is, you know, there's a Magna Carta.
That was really the first document that showed that these are really inherent rights that every human being has.
In our Declaration of Independence, inalienable rights granted by God.
But, we realize we need some government, but it should be limited.
And quite honestly, the foundational premise of our republic is government close to the governed.
In 50, not back then, but now 50 sovereign states, most government should be there, close to the governed, where it's more efficient, more effective, more accountable.
We have gone so far outside the constraints of the Constitution, and it hasn't worked.
I mean, massive federal government, the largest financial entity in the world, $7 trillion large, $35 trillion in debt.
It is out of control, and it's a direct proportion.
As government grows, your freedoms recede, and that is what we are seeing.
That's the reason.
Government has grown in power.
At the federal level, and oftentimes state levels.
Every state is different.
I mean, there were freer states.
There were less free states during COVID.
So, people do get the government that they vote for.
Our responsibility as conservatives, Republicans, is try and convince people, take responsibility yourself.
You want freedom?
Freedom implies it requires responsibility as well.
That's what terrifies me about freedom, is the amount of responsibility.
Like, I suppose if you've encountered a lot of chaos in your early life, it's very difficult to embrace that type of responsibility.
I wonder what type of culture has been inhered through recent years and recent events.
One of the reasons, Ron, that I was very excited and keen to speak to you is because you took a very particular and deliberate and almost extraordinarily outspoken stance during the pandemic period I believe that you even went so far as to suggest that the pandemic was augured, perhaps deliberately, in order to legitimise authoritarianism.
Would you explain that, if that is indeed your position, sir?
I don't think I ever went that far.
I know there are people that I do believe that.
I just don't know.
I don't, you know, I have a very open mind.
None of this makes sense.
And that's, I think, really how I went down the path I went.
Very early on, none of it made sense.
The shutdowns made no sense.
I'm the guy who said that, you know, we tragically lose tens of thousands of people on American highways every year, but we don't shut them down.
And Anthony Fauci from the podium in the White House said, oh, that was way out there.
No, it's a very good analogy.
I held hearings as chairman of Homeland Security.
First and foremost, early in May, well, first in February, where I realized we don't make the precursor chemicals for drugs.
That's a vulnerability.
As soon as I heard about hydroxychloroquine, my first concern was, can we produce enough of them?
That was in March.
Then I held a hearing in early May with John Ioannidis, who did the analysis on the Princess Cruz, showing that, yeah, COVID can be deadly, but primarily if you're Elderly, or if you're certain comorbidities.
For the rest of us, we'll probably survive.
So that provided me a fair amount of comfort.
Also being a person of faith.
So none of this made sense.
These lockdowns were so destructive.
We were shutting down churches.
We were shutting down, you know, small stores.
People who invested life savings, but the big box stores got to stay open.
You know, none of this made sense.
We saw about a four trillion dollar transfer of wealth from The little people.
From the working men and women of this country to the massive...
Corporations, to the big tech social media giants, it was all in their benefit.
And then, when they sabotaged early treatment, and they did, they sabotaged early treatment, whether it's hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, budessinide, there were a host of molecules that existed, corticosteroids.
Pierre Corrie, in my Mayme hearing, we had him come in, he talked about corticosteroids.
He was vilified, until a few weeks later, dexamethasone, actually, there was a study that showed it, of course they always under-prescribed it, so, The treatment of COVID patients in hospitals was abysmal.
People lost their freedom.
People lost their lives because they administered remdesivir where there was no evidence whatsoever.
There was evidence it would knock out kidneys.
It was withdrawn from an Ebola trial because it was more harmful.
So, again, I knew this because I was already connected to a large group.
I wish it was larger, but a group of eminently qualified doctors and medical researchers that had a completely different view On COVID, and in particular, I got connected with Michael Yeadon, Senior Vice President of Pfizer in the UK, toxicologist, who was beside himself when he heard what his former colleagues were going to do.
He said, Ron, there's a long list of ingredients we do not put in injectables because they are toxic to the body.
When I heard my colleagues, who educated with me, know what I know, they were going to produce an injectable shot That was going to turn the body into its own manufacturer of toxins.
He was beside himself.
He couldn't believe they would do that.
And now they've been denying it.
So I knew early on that this was a potentially dangerous shot.
And quite honestly, now we know they did not do the type of safety testing on this.
They knew that it would body distribute all over the body.
They knew the impact if this were to, for example, attach the heart, go through the blood-brain barrier, attach the ovaries.
They had to know that.
And yet they were so hell-bent on this vaccine, this universal vaccine program, which by evidence, with Rick Bright and Anthony Fauci in late October, I think, of 2019, they were bemoaning the fact that we don't have a universal vaccine program.
Flu season just doesn't do it.
We probably need a pandemic.
Well, they got their pandemic.
I know that's a mouthful, but... No, I want to congratulate you on your pronunciation of hydroxychloroquine.
That took me a while.
Elegant.
Handled almost effortlessly.
Rolled off of the tongue.
In fact, nothing has been rolled out that effortlessly since the vaccine itself.
Then, your ability to relay that narrative so plainly and eloquently reminds me that there are many incredible facets, not least, as you touched upon near the beginning of your rather lovely soliloquy, the wealth transfer from ordinary middle-class people to extraordinarily powerful business interests.
Now, I began by incorrectly implying, or stating in fact, That you had suggested that the entire exercise had been malignly conducted, and whether or not it was an engineered event is difficult to corroborate, but what does seem significant is that it granted
powerful institutions, the legitimacy to further centralize authority at a point
where the inertia seems to be towards decentralization and maximal individual
sovereignty, maximum community electoral representation. It seems like it
functioned in a way, forgive me Ron, I won't be long.
Like me.
No, I'm gonna be, I reckon I'll do, it'll be a 10% as long as, as it should be because I'm here to inquire of you and your wisdom.
I would like to say that when you look at the various institutions and interests that benefited, is it not possible to calculate how this event may have come about?
I think what we know almost for sure now, and I believe this very early on as soon as Tom Cotton talked about the Wuhan lab, and I was talking to computational biologists and other experts, this thing did not spring from nature.
This was man-made.
We know of our bioweapons research.
We understand how much we have funded.
By the way, Fauci, and this is according to Bobby Kennedy's book, I love Bobby Kennedy.
I love him.
Fauci financed EcoHealth Alliance to the tune of about $14 million.
The Defense Department financed EcoHealth Alliance to the tune of about $42 million.
And USAID, who Bobby Kennedy says is a CIA cutout, $53 million.
So Fauci's role in this was almost minor compared to our Defense Department and potentially CIA.
So again, This was obviously man-made.
Exactly how it was released, I don't know.
My guess is probably an accident.
But we have accidents in these biolabs all the time.
The minimum we should have done if we were financing this bioweapons research is we shouldn't have shared it with the Chinese.
We should have made sure it stayed in unbelievably safe and secure biolabs and we didn't do that.
We were cavalier with it.
We were dangerous with it.
So, that's why Fauci, very early on, end of January, early February, went overboard to cover his tracks and make sure that any talk of a man-made chimeric virus was a crazy conspiracy theory.
He got away with it for quite some time, but the truth was coming out.
Ron, yesterday we spoke to Jim Jordan on this show.
It was a brilliant conversation.
Did you see it?
Did you like it?
Let me know in the chat, you beautiful lunatics, you.
And what was fascinating, or at least interesting to me, was that the idea that there are all these hearings that are conducted, but it seems to me unlikely that the reckoning that's required for an event of this magnitude and corruption of this degree is unlikely to be conducted.
And do you think that it most calcifies the idea in the minds of many Americans and people around the world The corrupt elites are able to produce and conduct their hypocrisy without justice.
In short, Senator, is the level of justice that is required ever likely to be enacted upon those who, if they did not perpetrate this event, and I'm certainly not suggesting they did, benefited from it, mishandled it, exploited it, covered it up, and in so doing, It is my personal intent to make sure that happens.
Again, I'm in the minority.
All I can do right now is write oversight letters.
these regulatory agencies and institutions are corrupt and not fit for purpose?
It is my personal intent to make sure that happens.
Again, I'm in the minority. All I can do right now is write oversight letters.
I've written over 60 about hotlots, about their standard operating procedure
in terms of analysis of their very system.
So I've laid the foundation for my investigation should we gain the majority
and I become chairman of the permanent subcommittee on investigations.
I have stronger power than I had as chairman of the full committee.
Part of the problem, I don't want to throw people under the bus,
but problem with the House subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic.
Got a lot of doctors from the mainstream medical community.
I mean, they're all singing the praises of the vaccine still, that it saved millions of lives.
There's no study, there's really no science, true science, that shows the vaccine saved lives.
Now, I think maybe early on, when it was targeted toward the variant that was out there, it might have been somewhat effective.
But these people are coming up with, they'll save 14 million lives, so let's give these people a Nobel Prize.
There's no hard science to back that up.
They're just saying it.
From my standpoint, to cover their tracks, I think there's some pretty good indications that because they sabotaged early treatment, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people died.
Because they used remdesivir, people died in hospitals.
And it's indisputable that the vaccine causes death, permanent disability.
And it's not just thousands.
I mean, on the VAERS system today, we're over 37,000 deaths worldwide.
Twenty-four percent of those deaths occurred on the day of vaccination or within two days.
Now, I know VAERS doesn't prove causations.
That's correlation our regulators should have been aware of and concerned about in February, March of 2020.
And by the way, when I brought that up, To Francis Collins in April of 2021, okay, three or four months after the vaccine was granted emergency use authorization, I think at that point it was like 40 some percent of people were dying the day of vaccination or within one or two days.
Again, we were ministering to elderly people that couldn't handle the assault on their body.
Francis Collins said, Senator Johnson, we have identified six people have died because of the J&J, because of clotting, Senator, people die.
That's how cavalier he was and how unserious they were.
And now, by the way, last week, in testimony before our committee, on the origin and the dangerous gain-of-function research, I had the opportunity to question Dr. Redfield, and he admitted That they purposely downplayed and ignored the vaccine injuries because they didn't want to create vaccine hesitancy.
Well, you can't tell the public the truth.
You can't let them have, you know, true conformed incent.
And he said that there are a lot more injuries than what they're being reported right now, so...
It's so staggeringly corrupt, particularly hot off the heels of the opioid crisis, that one wonders if many of the large pharmaceutical companies should not just be regulated more efficiently, but actually demonopolized and broken down and bought into new systems of ownership that would perhaps steward these powerful organizations with a little more responsibility.
There's a report out today about Merck, Corruptly covering up the inefficacy of its mumps vaccine.
Instead of actually fixing it, they spent all kinds of time and research trying to justify the fact that this really is more efficacious than we thought it was.
Listen, our pharmaceutical companies have completely captured Our federal health agencies.
They've also captured the media.
Yeah.
That's why I call it the COVID cartel.
The Biden administration, our federal health agencies, captured by Big Pharma, together with the media and social media giants.
That is the COVID cartel.
They're the one that sabotaged early treatment.
They're the one that wanted and pushed the vaccine, led by people like Bill Gates, who for some reason wants to vaccinate the world and every living thing on it.
He's very keen, isn't he, Bill Gates, to vaccinate people?
I think he should take more of these vaccines himself, to see if he can withstand them, and pipe down a little bit.
One of the things that perhaps we don't focus on enough is that the whole undergirding of the endeavour was that human life is sacred, and if any of us individually or collectively can do things to protect one another, we will do it.
Whether that's take a particular medication, or lock ourselves in our home, or yield to authority in ways that would usually be inconceivable.
Do you, are you heartened to any degree to learn that people still regard life with such a sanctity or do you think that was simply something that was exploited to further legitimize authority and on this idea of the sanctity of human life which underwrites the measures to protect human life and indeed much of the compassion underwritten authoritarianism of the neoliberal democratic movement do you feel that What you and I talked about in the bathroom.
I keep mentioning situations that we talked in that sound really illegitimate.
We were chatting in the hotel.
We were chatting in the bathroom.
But in the bathroom, you talked about some of them projects you do to help people with addiction issues.
I'm in recovery from addiction.
Do you think that this kind of genuine compassion, this idea of serving in the manner of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, ought to be at the forefront of systems of government and authority in a way that seems impossible when you're discussing this level of corruption?
First, I believe most people are good.
Okay, America is a great country because Americans are good people.
The UK has been a great country because Britons, you know, Anglo-Saxons are by and large good people.
Now, we've been led by some very bad people, by corrupt people, by stupid people.
Who like?
There's a bunch.
I think most Chinese people are good.
I think most Russians are good.
I think most Iranians are good.
I think most people trapped in North Korea are good people.
And the British?
Yeah, too much.
The British, I love the British.
I work for a company, they're run by the British.
I spend a lot of time over, I love you, okay?
Thank you.
You're hard-partying, like Wisconsinites, you might drink it every now and again,
but sometimes, I know.
Tackle pro.
I got that.
But no, again, people are good.
We need to elect better leaders.
We need to embrace the essential ingredients of what allows government to protect us, and that is called freedom.
I would say it's the essential ingredient.
It's allowed people to dream and aspire and build and create lives for themselves, better communities, better nations.
But the more essential, the higher value is truth.
And what I appreciate are those doctors who risked and lost their careers.
They were vilified.
And I appreciate people like you who've also used this format to tell people the truth.
I mean, you have been the light.
I did quite well, didn't I?
You absolutely have.
Oh, hey, you lot.
Didn't I do very well?
Excuse me, show me, where's my bloody single?
Thank you very much.
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By the way, Marjorie is definitely one of the few people in the house who has advocated for the vaccine-injured, held unauthorized hearings.
Probably not to the joy of the chairman of the committee, but she's shown some real courage as well.
She's one of those individuals.
One of our favorite bits, Ron, was when Marjorie took on Anthony Fauci and went, Look at this picture of Doug, you bastard!
I could take a shit on you!
You know, she got very, very enthusiastic and on the front foot with Anthony Fauci and just yesterday we were talking about that, weren't we Marjorie?
Absolutely.
Outside of that context, that would have been regarded as a powerful takedown of the patriarchy, but because Marjorie isn't posited in that cultural position, those dynamics were not remarked upon.
Because surely Marjorie is an extremely powerful woman, there is no question about that, is there?
Well, she pays the price, so she's vilified for telling the truth.
That's what happens in our society, and that's why so very few people do it.
That's why doctors adhered to these protocols, because they saw their colleagues being destroyed if they actually spoke out.
Marjorie, it seems to me that you have no trouble with the bravery required to speak your mind.
In fact, if anything, a little less bravery would sometimes be beneficial.
Do you recognize where this type of discourse is likely to lead, and the kind of forces that you're going to have to continue to confront?
Because before you got here, Me and Ron were talking about the necessity or perhaps possibility of demonopolising and breaking down the kind of pharmaceutical companies that have practised these various hypocrisies and corruptions and indeed, wow, I mean I don't know how far to go with the words but
Uh, you know, we were talking about like the VARS events, the number of excess deaths, we're talking about a good many things.
What type of reckoning is required and how likely is it that when it comes to criminal proceedings and genuine consequences for people like Fauci that that will be pursued?
And how far are you willing to pursue it?
Because Ron's actually prepared to pursue it quite aggressively it seems.
Well, we've worked together, the Senator and I, because, well, you know, I'm one of those un-vaxxed people.
I just didn't buy into the whole lie that was, I felt, sold to us from the medical-industrial complex.
But really, to break that system, we have to look deeper into why so many members of Congress and elected officials are basically beholden to, you know, the different big pharma companies.
And that's because they're funded by them.
And it's, that shouldn't hold elected officials in place.
But when you have many people receiving their donations that fill their campaign coffers from big companies like Pfizer and Moderna and so forth, then it muzzles them in ways it shouldn't, right?
And luckily, gosh, approximately over 95% of my donations are small dollar donations.
So the only people I work for are the people that voted for me in my district and the American people.
And so that's very freeing for someone like me.
I don't have to worry about having money in my campaign to get reelected because I've had to depend on the lobbyists in Washington or the, you know, big industries that rely on government contracts or rely on government officials and unelected bureaucrats making decisions in order to empower them.
Um, and I think that's extremely important, and that's a good conversation.
Let me quick add, because there's no doubt about there's a financial component of this, but I think even more at play here is the fact that whether it's doctors, whether it's members of Congress who have always pushed, for example, childhood vaccines, and they did videos on the, you know, get vax.
Listen, I support Operation Warp Speed.
I want to end this pandemic.
If there would have been a vaccine that would have worked, I'd have been happy to have it and support it.
But again, I talked to Michael Eden, so the fact that people have recommended this or pushed it or mandated it,
they don't want to admit that what they recommended, pushed or mandated could have killed somebody,
might have permanently disabled them, so they will never admit they're wrong.
The body count is way too high.
And from my standpoint, and now the American public, quite honestly, anybody who got vaccinated, they don't want, they don't want to face the reality that maybe they've got a ticking time bomb.
I hate to say that.
Okay.
They don't, everybody wants to just forget it and move on, but we can't because they want to use this mRNA platform for other things.
And in the end, you have to expose the truth to prevent further harm.
It seems that you are describing a lack of the real kind of virtue and systems of culpability that are required in the event of a crisis like this.
When you said, Marjorie, that 95% of your donations come from small donors, isn't that precisely the type of system that ought be legislated and mandated, rather than the way you described?
It seemed like it were kind of optional, that if you wanted, you could accept funding from all sorts of groups and PACs and lobbyists and donors, as long as those systems remain in place.
Aren't we vulnerable to, if not exactly, Exactly the corruption that we've just experienced.
Variations of it.
I absolutely think so, and it's a shame.
It shouldn't be that way.
You know, we're all elected by the people, not by a certain industry or organization or any sort of group, right?
We're elected by individual people that cast their individual votes, which is extremely important.
So the people at large really should be the people that we're serving—their interests, their beliefs, their businesses, and their families.
And that's what's important, but that's not how Washington, D.C.
works.
Washington, D.C.
is run by the elites and the powerful, and when we talk about patriarchy, that's why I loved talking about that with you.
And I like talking to you.
Do you know that I've got to interrupt you, not because I don't enjoy talking to you, you're staying there, if you will permit that to be the case.
Sure, I'd love to.
But Ron Johnson's got to go.
Ron, did you know that you're supposed to be somewhere else?
I do.
Insane schedule when you're kind of the U.S.
Senator host for the state, but... You're actually important politicians.
Listen, it is... You can't sit here on a bonket pretending that this country doesn't need governing, because it does.
It is a pleasure being interviewed by you.
I'd like to do it for a longer format even, and it's a pleasure being with Marjorie Green.
These are two individuals with real courage, They've helped save lives because of their courage.
So God bless all of you, and I look forward to our next conversation.
Thank you so much, Senator.
Thank you for your time, and thank you for making me so welcome in your beautiful state, the beautiful state of Wisconsin.
Thank you.
Hey, guess what?
If you want to be an Awakened One, bye-bye, Senator.
It was lovely to meet you.
Take care.
See you later.
He's lovely, isn't he?
He's great.
He's trying his hardest, doing his best.
I love working with Senator Johnson.
We could put on some locals promo if we want to.
Or I could just carry on, because you want to repo Marjorie.
Marjorie, what we're going to do now, if you would choose to, is you can sit in this area here and we can put on a promotional artifact for Locals.
Do you know which button it's on, guys?
Are you going to play it in?
Hey, you lot, do you know what Locals is yet?
Locals is our subscriber community where you get access to additional content.
If you want to support us there, you certainly can as we continue to evolve and develop a movement.
Here is a piece of promotional material telling you more about that and the kind of things we're doing.
What is it?
Candice?
Bill Hicks?
What is it?
Candace, Bill Hicks.
Sorry, you can speak up.
It's okay.
Oh, it's the Q&A.
Oh, have a look at this.
You'll like this.
Morning, Russell.
Marjorie, go and sit.
I'm pretty sure you believe in the afterlife, but do you believe that we can communicate with those who have passed on?
Because I do, and I've been talking to this guy for about three decades.
She's chatting to Einstein.
She's chatting away to Einstein.
What's he telling her?
Barbara, this is the cynic in me.
Even though I'm a believer, and sometimes I fall into superstition, I like to remain open-minded.
As I say, hopefully not so open-minded that my brain falls out.
But, if it's Einstein, I'd go, mate, explain... get him to do some sums!
Like, get an equation out of him, would be my advice, Barbara.
I'd go, right, if that's you, Einstein, you said that, you know, we have to get beyond The spooky physics interpretation of quantum theory.
You've had all this time in the afterlife.
Presumably you've been watching the work of like Heidegger and whoever else has sort of continued down the path of quantum physics.
You're seeing what's going on in the particle collider in CERN.
Not to mention you're now part of the limitless oneness in everlasting life with our Lord and Saviour Jesus.
Give me some proper equations, mate.
Equations?
Alright, it didn't happen.
Thanks, you could consider becoming an Awaken Wanderer, joining us there, and you get additional content, you get to ask me questions directly, whatever you want, I'll answer you.
I'll answer you plainly and clearly with whatever you want, because this is one of the things I like about you Marjorie Taylor Greene, you full-on actual person.
You actual real-life person, not talking like proper politicians.
Mate, so yesterday we were just having that chat with Senator Ron Johnson, then you started talking about the patriarchy again, and you seem to be framing the patriarchy in a slightly different way than we're used to hearing of it described within maybe the neoliberal establishment, but also within, I suppose you'd have to say, legitimate feminist activist groups.
Can you tell us what you mean when you say that?
Well, you know, it's really funny, Russell.
I feel like it's almost meant to be that we're having this conversation because just a couple weeks ago I was at home and I was doing some writing.
I always do writing to get my thoughts out.
Just journaling and I was actually thinking about the patriarchy and how the patriarchy has been framed for many, you know, millions and millions of young women and teenage girls.
And I was thinking, you know, the patriarchy is actually something truly different than how it's been framed and how these young women think.
You were writing about this in your journal.
I could not believe it when you brought it up yesterday, because I was actually writing what we said, you know, out loud, and I felt so awkward saying it on here, because I was like, am I allowed to say this on Rumble?
But the whole term, fuck the patriarchy, which is freeing to be able to say, needs to be redefined.
And it's important to do that because I feel like there are millions of young women that have been misled about what it means to be a woman, about what they view as something that's against them, maybe how they've been hurt possibly by men in their lives.
But I think the patriarchy is so much different than how they've been taught.
When AOC first become a star, I really liked AOC because I thought she used to be a waitress, now she's in Congress.
This is exactly the kind of thing we want.
Ordinary people rising up from working class jobs.
But when I see you and her having that conversation, I thought that she was maybe a little bit rude.
And I wonder, do you think that people, when they're inside the political establishment, get co-opted and captured by sort of different ideologies?
And would there be a way where someone like you and AOC could find a common ground, conviviality, and even a kind of sisterhood?
Or do you think that the positions are too charged and opposed?
Do you see any solidarity with her?
And do you think that she has qualities, or do you feel sort of personally hurt by it, and that she represents things that you find repellent?
No, actually, AOC, who used to be a progressive, I don't think she's a progressive anymore.
I think she's abandoned her people that elected her.
She's abandoned her views.
Now she's basically a member of the Democrat establishment.
She fully supports the 82-year-old white man that they're still propping up as their candidate for president.
So AOC in particular, she's a tough example for me to use.
But actually, some of my votes align with progressives.
We oftentimes, you'll see someone like me voting with Ilhan Omar or some of the members of the progressives, and we should, right?
This isn't uncommon.
Things like prison reform, issues like foreign wars, issues that affect real Americans.
These are places that, yes, you'll see the far left and the far right come together
sort of in that circle fashion, and we'll have those votes.
But I'll tell you what stops us from coming together and actually working together
for real, meaningful legislative changes.
Politics is a business, and this is something that I fully understand coming from the business world.
It is literally built on creating hate between the two parties, which fails the people.
So they use it to make political ads.
They use it for fundraising.
They use it for consultants to make a ton of money.
I, for one, as a Republican member of Congress, I am used in literally every single Democrat's ads for fundraising.
I'm used in their emails.
I'm used on television.
I'm used on their social media ads.
They raise a ton of money on me.
So could someone like Cori Bush or Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib join me in legislation?
They won't.
And you won't see that happen because then they couldn't raise the money they're raising off of me.
I see, because you are valuable as a kind of emblem of the aspects of republicanism and conservatism that they vocally detest.
I'm a commodity.
I see.
They've trained people to hate, and by training people to hate me, they're able to raise money from people.
Does that hurt you ever on a personal level to be the subject of that type of ire and criticism?
I say this in some solidarity as a person that has been the recipient of much condemnation, criticism, hatred and attack at various points over the life of being just a public figure or a celebrity.
I actually don't like it very much.
I don't like it either.
I think you and I have a full understanding of that.
We know that there's certain cities we can't walk down the sidewalk.
We can't walk in restaurants and just sit down.
We perhaps can't go enjoy a show or go anywhere with our family, and our families suffer the worst based on the hate that people send us or basically cast on us publicly.
So yeah, no, it definitely hurts, and it's wrong.
Do you think that you've ever said anything that warrants that?
Like, have you ever said anything like, I shouldn't have said that, actually, that was a bit too intense?
Yeah, of course.
I mean, I'm not innocent of throwing up.
Because look at how you are now.
You've been all really calm and quiet.
But I've seen you on the TV when you're in that... I like it.
Well, you know, I'll take, for example, the committee hearing on oversight.
You talked about AOC and Jasmine Crockett.
Dan Goldman, we're all like just charging at each other.
No one saw the 45 minutes leading up to that.
People only saw those clips like within just those couple of minutes where we're saying just outright nasty things to each other.
But no one saw what led to that tipping point.
And that's usually the tough part, right?
Is understanding why are they yelling at each other?
What happened?
Why did MTG just break and say things like this to people?
It's usually because I'm pushed and pushed and I'm listening to them call Donald Trump our orange Messiah or I'm listening to them personally attack me or they're holding up my tweets or social media posts on X and they're reframing my words and lying about what I said and I'm having to sit there and And take it, and take it, and take it.
And yes, in those moments I have lost my patience and just charged the hill and said things maybe in a way I shouldn't have, but you know, I'm human.
I'm not without mistakes.
Hey, I see in you that person that has probably dealt with a lot of confrontation even prior to being involved in politics.
Do you have that aspect to your nature, as well as I now experience some softness in you, you have that ability to get into people and I think, actually, no, not really.
It's kind of interesting.
This has done this to you?
Yes, it's done this to me.
But I've been a person where I have always been able to stand on my own principles, no matter what the situation is.
So I'm very grounded within myself.
But I've never been attacked like this before until I became a member of Congress.
Yeah, of course if you've become a kind of a star, and like you said, that you represent things, sometimes I feel that people enjoy the hatred, like that they relish it, almost demonically.
It will be impossible to envisage them stopping their ire and condemnation, because nothing people enjoy more than a kind of righteous hate.
People, I think, are largely unconscious of what they are doing, unconscious of what they are expressing, and are continually looking for legitimate means to express their psychic injuries and wounds.
And I think it's sort of perhaps even this is a condition that they've made for themselves because of the progressive language around feminism and femininity and how sort of plastic that conversation has become, I mean mutable rather.
It seems like I've sensed a genuine misogyny in the way that you've been spoken to and spoken about that I think they would be reluctant to acknowledge.
Absolutely.
You know what's interesting?
There's misogyny not just coming from the media perhaps or the Democrats.
It's in our Republican Party too.
Is there misogyny?
Of course there is.
A lot of these guys, they want to control the power and they really You probably don't want women out there telling them what to do or taking charge or being in the lead.
I don't see my leadership style perhaps that way, having run a company for so many years.
It's a construction company, huh?
Yes, exactly.
You're dealing with site managers and surveyors and architects, but also people doing the joinery and electrics.
There's managing processes and styles and for me the right way to go is just to find the best people to hire and then you trust them to do their jobs and you don't want to micromanage people.
Don't get involved in micromanagement.
No, micromanagement is the worst thing to do.
It's boring.
It is boring, and it's wrong.
If you're a leader, you're wasting your time micromanaging everyone.
Let everyone get on with their job.
Let them do their job, trust them to do it, make sure, but oversee it.
That's part of supervising a job site.
You oversee it, make sure it's done well, and then you have a solid team.
Hey, do you know what, mate?
At this RNC, Do you feel like it's such a concentrated set of power dynamics that it's sometimes a bit overwhelming?
For example, Tucker pointed out that with Lindsey Graham, I don't know if you like Lindsey Graham or not, don't embarrass you.
Not a fan.
Not a fan.
So when Tucker goes like that, he said, you know, like, I like J.D.
Vance, he's great!
You can see how people become like little stars and everything.
And I met J.D.
Vance myself, as a matter of fact, and he was absolutely very, very, very sweet.
And then I, like myself, thought, oh, he's going to be the VP.
And I sort of felt myself sort of clinging at him a little bit.
Later on, I felt a bit disgusted by myself.
Do you feel sometimes that there's something extremely repugnant about the power dynamics that start to play out in situations like this?
It's a little bit like school or Hollywood and it's revolting.
It is revolting.
I totally agree.
The clicks and all the different... Everybody's jockeying to get to the top.
This is my first convention.
Oh, you've never even been one?
Same as me.
Yeah, never even been one.
You're a congresswoman.
What's going on?
Well, our last one was in 2020.
Because of COVID.
Yeah, the whole world shut down.
And then...
An overreaction, it turns out.
Absolutely.
It was a massive overreaction.
Just leave us alone.
Yeah, let us take ivermectin or whatever we want to do.
Natural immunity is the best.
And they shut down businesses and schools and it was ridiculous.
It's absurd.
And conventions.
So this is your first one?
It's my first one.
What do you think?
I think it's been an extremely interesting experience, but I will agree there's a jockeying for power,
watching the VP get named and everybody run, run to him, and all of a sudden stand with him and take their pictures.
There's also jockeying going on because everyone is basically
measuring the drapes for the White House.
They're convinced that we're going in.
They're figuring out, well, where do I want to work?
What cabinet position do I want?
What part can I play?
You should be in it.
Everybody's running that way, and I think we need to win in November.
Focus on that.
Let's focus on the goal.
I understand the need to build and set up, but it's a little bit gross when everyone's worried about what job position they want.
Once again, they are governed by unconscious ambitions and unconscious desires.
They don't even know what it is and expressing it sort of unconsciously.
Do you know that you're meant to be somewhere else?
Hey, do you know the dude that's on After Us, Andrew?
What's the name of Andrew's show, Jenna?
He's brilliant, isn't he?
He'll be on after us.
You should meet that young man.
He was here just a moment ago.
Now, I'm being told that you're supposed to leave here.
Does that tally with your personal experience of reality and your own understanding of your schedule?
Or are you a person who doesn't know your schedule?
Well, actually, no.
These people that I pay, they pretty much control my schedule most of the time.
Paid with 95% small donations?
That's right.
Not from big evil corporations?
No!
Not from satanic, luciferian pharmaceutical corporations.
Absolutely.
You've got to watch out for those guys.
But it's difficult, isn't it?
Because it's insidious claws are throughout the political world.
They're claws in the political world like you would not believe, Russell.
I mean, it is disgusting.
I would love to explain to you the hierarchy and how it works on the When I was talking about politics as a business, it is fascinating.
Absolutely fascinating.
Because you have the political world that exists of political consultants, and they're power players.
Because they pick a candidate, and if they can raise enough money and get their candidate across the line, well then they're a power player in their own right.
They establish, set someone up like a mini kingdom, right?
And then they play across that levels.
But those same political consultants also have their connections in the media.
And so certain consultants will prop up only their candidates.
That's why you see certain people on Fox News and you don't see certain people on Fox News.
And then you have the media.
You have the left-wing media, the right-wing media, and how they're making their play as political activists in that realm.
And they control the information to the people.
And so they control the stories and they control the people who are their guests.
They control the entire narrative.
And then you have The actual government positions.
And the government positions, and get this.
is where it meets and sort of melds in with the politics.
And this is where it gets really interesting.
This is where you have the political consultants and then you have the lobbyist world.
The lobbyist world, they're basically like salespeople that represent their industries.
If it's big pharma, military industrial complex, whatever it may be, all the way down to necessary lobbyists, like, they're just representing, you know, car dealerships that are trying to exist and get, you know, be put- I feel a bit sorry for them ones.
We're just trying to make an honest dollar for car dealerships, ma'am.
Could you hear us?
Shut the fuck up!
We're from Pfizer!
We'll fucking destroy you!
They're getting no chance in the lobbying game, are they?
No, they aren't.
As a matter of fact, they're marginalised.
They're marginalised lobbyists.
Who thinks about the marginalised lobbyists?
I've never even conceptualised that before.
Because I thought lobbyists...
Evil.
Realm of Satan.
But there are like sweet little lobbyists trying their hardest.
Yeah, they're there saying the Green New Deal is killing our people's ability to sell cars.
It definitely is, isn't it?
Well, you think that the solar panels is no good, the lithium batteries are no good, it's destroying the landscape.
You think it's a hustle.
You don't think it is built on a love and respect for God's creation, the holy divine earth that we should revere and love, not as a resource, but because it is our duty to serve and love this earth.
I agree 100%.
You think the Green New Deal is a hustle?
I think the Green New Deal is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever read in my life.
It's 14 pages.
I encourage everyone to read it.
You'll vomit.
Is it?
Bullshit?
You'll vomit.
You're reading everything that's bullshit.
You'll vomit.
It's bullshit.
14 pages, I could probably handle that.
Yeah, it's literally cow shit.
Who wants to read long documents?
And the Democrats want to eradicate it because they hate cows.
Bullshit, Marjorie!
Yeah, it's bullshit.
Right, mate, I've got to do a commercial for dog food.
I mean, all this talk about, you know, commerce and corporatism, and the reality is that I've got to promote one of Rumble's brands because of my affiliation with Rumble.
They've been extremely kind to me, and they're an organisation... Yeah, I'll chuck it over.
Imagine that.
I don't need that screen.
Oh, no, maybe I do.
Marjorie, you don't want to stay for this.
It will tarnish your dignity.
I was listening.
I was really enjoying that bit when you were explaining the network of those relationships.
That was incredible.
Yeah.
Let's talk again and I'll tell you about fundraisers on Capitol Hill.
Yeah, tell me about fundraisers on Capitol Hill.
Well, don't you got to talk about dog trees?
You're going to stay here?
Don't you got to talk about dog trees?
Yeah, I'll talk about dog trees.
I'll talk about dog trees when I'm ready.
OK.
All right.
Last bit.
Okay, the way the political consultants meets the government, right?
And we're talking about lobbyists.
This is how certain candidates get funded.
So the lobbyists and the different power players in Washington can all come together and they're saying, the government funding for the military is coming up.
It's a really important bill.
We're all going to get together and make sure that our contracts are given to our different companies and we have to get it across the line by supporting these members of Congress and these senators.
So then they arrange fundraisers and it's amazing how hundreds of thousands of dollars can get raised in literally an hour over cocktails and little hot dogs wrapped in crescent rolls.
On a toothpick.
Why you not... That's a pretty incredible detail.
A little hot dog interacting crescent wheels on a... Why have you not been seduced into it?
Because I don't, I won't buy in.
I'm not controlled.
Why not?
Why are you not seduced by it?
Why do you not find it appealing, the money, the glamour, the power?
Why have you not been seduced by it?
Are you not seduced by it?
I'm not seduced by it because I ran for Congress because I hate all of it.
Yeah, I hate it.
I absolutely hate it.
I hate the fact that people I know were sent off to fight in the Iraq War and they came back totally different and maybe some of them actually that I do know didn't come back.
And I hate the fact that my construction company and our industry has truly suffered based on the total fucking idiots in Washington that made decisions that hurt our economy, put us in a recession, nearly put us out of business, and put some of my friends out of business.
I hate Washington, D.C.
I think it's filled with some of the biggest morons that couldn't get a real job if they tried as hard as possible, but yet somehow they're making policy decisions that screw all of us.
Yeah.
So I don't care about their stupid little weenies on a stick.
Or the money that they want to donate.
I like you.
Thanks, Marjorie.
Shall I come on your thing?
Yeah, I'd love it.
Okay.
Thanks for coming.
Thank you.
See you later.
I'm glad that you won't be here watching me lobbying for positive.
I'm getting into my own little lobbying deal right now.
Thank you very much for coming on.
I'll see you again, will I?
You look brilliant today.
Take care, mate.
Hey, this is an advert for a product that's made in affiliation with Rumble.
Therefore, I'm particularly inclined to support it.
I can't read that from there.
I'm going to have to come a little bit closer.
Oh, what, you're going to make it bigger?
Is it?
Hold on, can I have it on a bit of paper?
Do we have it on a bit of paper?
Oh, thank you very much.
That was Don Junior's show.
Don Junior's script for a minute.
Hey, so this, what I know about this is this is sort of a pet supplement that's not disgusting.
In fact, let me have a look at it and see.
Right, you know, I got my dog Bear.
I really love him.
I give him a lot of treats and I'm really missing him.
Marjorie, we didn't have time to talk about dogs, did we?
Because you're a dog lover.
Right, you love dogs.
You'd be the perfect client for Positive.
You want to see some lobbying?
I'll lobby.
Hey, so this is, Positive is like, I mean, I wouldn't eat it myself, but I tell you what, I tell you who would is my dog Bear, because it's not like, sometimes I feed Bear a bull's pizzle.
There's no nice way of saying this.
It's a bull's cock.
How can that be good for him?
So Rumble, Positive Health, they've like got this company here, founded by people who are not only fighting for free speech, but love their animals enough to make healthy, clean ingredients, great tasting superfood supplement waffles and pet products that are human grade.
A human could eat this.
Is there anyone that wants to?
Are any of you willing to?
Isaac?
Dylan?
Will you eat it?
Luke?
Come over here, will ya?
Now look, you're endorsing this as well, aren't you, on your show?
I have a German Shepherd as well.
I've got a German Shepherd!
There's your microphone.
I think that has banana.
I may have allergies to some of that stuff.
Well, yeah.
I can't partake in all that.
I'm honest.
You don't want to eat it because, like, do you remember when you were a kid, did you
ever eat dog's chocolate?
No, I have not.
Well, I did and I regret it still.
This though, this is nutritious.
Have you got a dog?
I love the dog.
You got a German Shepherd?
I love my dog, yeah.
You've got a German Shepherd?
Yeah.
We do a lot of walking, we do a lot of exercise.
She's about three, so she's still very young, but I'm making sure she's getting the supplements and extra beef liver, which this has, and it has heart, and it has all the beef organs, which are pretty good for you, and probably a lot better than the American processed food diet, which is filled with a lot of poisons and crap.
I've got two things to say, Luke.
You did a very good advert there.
I also think we should get checked for autism.
Those are my two observations for that.
I'm confirmed.
I don't need to get checked.
Are you confirmed?
I'm confirmed.
I'm confirmed 100% on it.
It's pretty obvious.
It's pretty plain.
You don't need an investigation.
It's pretty clear.
It's as plain as the nose of your face.
Wherever you are on the spectrum of ADHD, mental illness, you can give this to your pets.
Liver, heart, it's all in there for you.
So I'm going to give some of this to my dog, Bear.
And if we can watch this, go to our site, use studio, save 15% off your first subscription, audio.
Positive.
Not positive, positive.
There's a pun in there.
Oh yeah, I like it.
You'd have noticed that, of course.
And what, are you doing your show straight after?
Yep, right after you guys.
One o'clock here on rumble.com forward slash wearechanged.
We're going to have Benny Johnson on as well.
You've got Benny Johnson on?
I love him.
And the quartering's going to be on as well.
You've got the quartering on?
Yeah, and Clint Russell's going to be on as well, so he's my co-host.
What are you going to be doing at Skype Roof?
No, no, no.
There's a new thing that broke right now.
The parents literally came out.
Come in.
Just really quick.
Do you want me to switch out here?
No, stay here.
Benny can sit here for a second.
You're telling us we're still promoting Luke's show.
What else are you going to talk about?
Welcome, Benny.
The parents just reached out and said that they were calling authorities hours before the incident, telling them that he was going to go after the President of the United States.
So, authorities failed once again, with the parents calling them frantically, saying, hey, we want to stop our son from committing these horrible hate attacks.
Read my social cues!
Read the social cues, you mad autistic lunatic!
Now, what time does your show start streaming?
Right after yours, 1pm Central Time, here on Rumble.com forward slash WeAreChange.
Check that out.
Thank you, Russell, appreciate it.
Thank you very much for joining us on The Awakened Modest.
I hope you've enjoyed our conversation today with Marjorie Taylor Greene, Ron Johnson, Andrew Clavin.
