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Call 1(800)245-6000 or visit https://taxnetworkusa.com/brand and find your path to financial peace of mind.⏰ BE HERE AT 12PM ET / 5PM BST ⏰Steve Bannon begins his jail sentence, Biden faces ousting from the Democrats, and Trump attempts to delay his hush money sentencing. I also chat with Calley Means about who will take on Big Food and Big Pharma given the decline of our health, we delve into the rise in cancer rates, the truth behind Ozempic, and why genuinely healthy foods are being demonized. Enjoy the show and make sure to subscribe!Calley is the founder of TrueMed, a company that enables tax-free spending on food and exercise. He is also the co-author with his sister, Dr. Casey Means, of Good Energy: The Surprising Connection Between Metabolism and Limitless Health, which debuted at #1 on the NYTimes and Amazon lists in May. Earlier in his career, he was a consultant for food and pharma companies and is now exposing practices they use to weaponize our institutions of trust. He recently started an advocacy coalition with leading health and wellness companies called End Chronic Disease to lobby for changeOrder ‘Good Energy’ - https://a.co/d/09cUflMhTrumed - https://www.truemed.com/shop/fitnessCheck out social medias and more - https://linktr.ee/RussellBrand
Hello you Awakening Wonders there on Spotify, Apple, Stink Whistle, Gurgle Dot, or wherever you download your podcasts these days to remain at least peripherally connected to some tendril of truth in a bewildering miasma of lies and propaganda.
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Now please enjoy this episode of Stay Free with Russell Brand.
Thanks.
We've got a brilliant show, actually, because Callie Means is on.
If you don't know who Callie Means is, yeah, if you don't, do you know who he is?
Callie Means used to work at Coca-Cola, used to work at Big Food, now he exposes a lot of the corruption and hypocrisy within Big Food and how Big Food work in tandem with Big Pharma through donation and lobbying to create situations where legislation can't get through if it would mean that you would eat better food, be healthier, and not have to take medications that would ultimately be bad for you.
He's been brilliant on a Zen pic.
He was Really good on Big Pharma during the pandemic era and he's a very lucid and brilliant communicator.
I like him and you're gonna like him as well.
Hey, dear old Joe Biden, it was just one off night, wasn't it?
Just, yeah, calamine.
It's not catamine.
Not catamine, isn't that?
That's a herb.
It's not catamine the herb.
If you, uh, hey, join us on, um, on Locals if you want.
On Locals we do additional content.
For example, just today I did my five things I can't live without.
It was pretty good.
And one of the things I can't live without I concur with Justice Sotomayor's dissent today.
She hears what she said.
She said, in every use of official power, the president is now a king above the law.
With fear for our democracy, I dissent.
with Justice Sotomayor's dissent today. She hears what she said, she said in every use
of official power, the President is now a king above law.
With fear for our democracy, I dissent." End of quote.
I think sometimes why I feel so delirious and untethered is you can't have an objective
opinion on say the Supreme Court.
Like, the Supreme Court is good and just.
Or the Supreme Court is bad and unreliable.
The Supreme Court's function, purpose, and moral evaluation alters depending on who is utilising it on that particular day.
Teapothead says, I only tuned in for the tiny hat.
There will be a tiny hat at some point.
It's Callie Means, not Killie Memes.
Look, stop being confused about that.
Write it down.
Someone post in the Rumble chat, Callie Means his name, so that they know.
And write it in there.
In fact, why don't you post on there his brilliant new book that he's got out, which is called Energy, isn't it?
What's it called?
Good Energy.
Yeah, post that in there.
Is Callie even here right now?
I can say hello to him before I do something dazzling on the day's news, and then we'll rejoin one another.
Are you there, Callie, my darling?
Right here.
Right here, Russell.
There's your book in the background, you pro, you look handsome, how are you?
Oh, so good.
So good.
I'm excited to get into it with you today.
Yeah, we're gonna have good fun together, you and I. Look, I think I'm the first person that started to use that background, you know, that sort of, them sort of slats like that.
I would say that I am the first person, and I think that, I'm not saying, it's not Callie Means!
It's Callie Means, like as in Callie Means Business.
Callie, can you- That's right.
Can you, I've obviously not done, not ketamines!
Not ketamine!
Can you do- We will be talking about ketamine later, but Yes, we will we will be talking about not on YouTube though.
Hey Callie.
Oh, no, no, we got it We got to get off YouTube for that.
You can't be freely talking about Ketamine or MDMA as a potential alternative to SSRIs You can't talk about that.
No, that's rumble only.
That's rumble only that kind of stuff.
Yeah, but I tell you Not cauliflower!
You're infuriating me!
We'll be talking about cauliflower too.
We're going to talk about healthy food.
I heard once from a yogi, I don't know if I can trust them, he said that if food, actually thinking about it, I can't believe I'm bringing this up to an expert, he said food does for you what it looks like.
So he said walnuts and cauliflower, they're good for your brain.
They look like a brain.
That's why I eat a lot of baby carrots, baby!
You know what I'm talking about, Callie!
You know what I'm talking about, Callie!
Callie, you'll be back.
We'll be talking about your book, Good Energy, and maybe we'll get to the bottom of this ketamine issue as well, if we can.
As well as MPG.
I'll see you in a second, Callie.
I'm just going to do some interesting takes on the news.
Thank you for your patience.
Right, you want a take on the news?
Stop talking about my small hat.
I'm going to get on with it.
So thank you, guys.
Thank you very much.
If you can turn off the teleprompter now.
That's lovely.
Thank you so much for showing me an image of Callie, which was lovely while it lasted, but now I must focus on some other stuff.
And also Callie's sink, if you don't mind that as well.
Thank you, guys.
Because although I'm flattered that he laughed, I mean, I think that's a...
Not carry beans, JK Jerome!
Not carry beans!
If you're watching this on YouTube, we'll be there for another 10 minutes.
Then, for the interview with Callie, where we'll talk about Zempik, SSRIs, whether Trump or Biden will be better when it comes to the issue of food, nutrition, and health, and Big Pharma.
Remember Joe Biden?
We beat Big Pharma this year!
And all of that stuff.
We'll be talking about that, as well as a curious connection that Donald Trump has to childhood Uh, illness.
It's something that's, um, pretty fascinating that I didn't know about.
Now, I mentioned already to you the fact that I don't know how to- Body positivity is a good setup for, uh, as MPIC.
All right, we'll get into that.
We'll get into body positivity.
That's one of our awakened wonders here on Locals.
I missed who it was that says it, but like, yeah, we'll follow up on that point.
We will follow up on that.
Not Cammy Screams!
Not Collard Greens!
I'll tell you what, I will not put up with this.
I will not put up with this.
Hey, one of the stories that we've got to cover is that, um, look at this.
This is hyperbole and it's, um, what do you want to say?
Hysteria, I suppose.
Given that the Supreme Court has said that Donald Trump, to a degree, has immunity, people are saying, pundits I suppose, well, well, we could use that immunity to do anything then!
And it just makes me wonder, this kind of untethered hysteria, what is the set of principles and morals that we're actually protecting?
I guess, you know, theoretically, President Biden, acting within the scope of his official duties, could dispatch the military to take out the conservative justices on the court, and he'd be immune.
Dispatch the military?
I mean, even as a point of conversation and reflection, that seems pretty outrageous, doesn't it?
Let me know!
Good expose to that, guys, that and just the reaction.
Smash it out there.
What about this?
Steve Bannon, he's gone down today and I would say that Bannon has been a good guest on this show.
And I like Steve Bannon.
I like Steve Bannon's two shirts.
I like his natural hair lift.
I like his go-get-em attitude.
I like that really what I feel Steve Bannon is about.
I don't know, man.
I feel like Steve Bannon is about A challenging establishment power.
Maybe you lot will say, no, no, no, Stephen, Steve Bannon is a product of establishment power.
Here he is giving a pretty good speech just as he makes his way off to prison.
And again, does it seem right?
What did he do?
Like he ignored a subpoena to testify in one of the hearings around January 6th.
And January the 6th is starting to feel increasingly like a media concoction, isn't it?
Was it that bad?
Was it that bad?
Is it more of a, yeah, a confection, a construct of the media being used to delegitimize the Trump presidency?
I mean, many of the charges that he is currently facing pertain to his handling of that event, and they sort of often extract that Nancy Pelosi is on camera saying, it was my responsibility not to dispatch the National Guard.
Do you see what I mean?
Isn't it hard?
Do you find it hard to say, right, this is the moral center, I know that a lot of you are full-throttle MAGA, and like the full-throttle MAGA people, in a way I envy you, because you've gone, TRUMP!
I don't think there are any full-throttle Biden people anymore.
What we're watching actually is the media meltdown as such a position becomes impossible to maintain.
We're seeing the fissures and cracks as half of the media establishment says, oh my god we can't back this guy anymore because the dementia is now evident.
And others say, yeah but with dementia or without dementia he's still better than Trump!
Now, let's have a look at our man Bannon on his way to bird.
Coast to coast and streaming worldwide, you're watching CBS News 24-7, where we know we are seeing history write itself in real time.
Think about it today.
History writing itself in real time.
Hello, I'm history.
I'm writing me.
I'm shot me to stop me.
That's weird.
That's just time passing.
That's just events being recorded.
History writing itself in real time.
That's an extraordinary piece of propagandist language.
Well, Donald Trump gets a ruling from the Supreme Court that he celebrates today.
One of his men who helped get Trump to the White House is going to the big house.
We're talking, of course, about former Trump aide Steve Bannon.
He just reported to federal prison today in Connecticut.
Tonight, Steve Bannon behind bars.
Before starting his federal sentence, he played to the lively crowd gathered outside the correctional institution in Connecticut.
What group of pirates is out here today?
The longtime Trump ally and former chief strategist surrendered himself to authorities to serve a four-month sentence on contempt charges for defying a subpoena in the congressional investigation into the U.S.
Capitol attack.
I am proud to go to prison.
If this is what it takes to stand up to tyranny, if this is what it takes to stand up to the Garland corrupt criminal DOJ, if this is what it takes to stand up to Nancy Pelosi, if this is what it takes He's laughing his way to Chad, isn't he?
And the very prospective Nancy Pelosi's put a smile on his face.
One of the most enjoyable moments if you ask me of the post-debate meltdown has been Watching Joe Scarborough try to reorganise reality as the backgammon board of his neurology has now been flipped and he's trying to assemble some kind of order in his own mind and even he and Micah cannot agree about what reality is anymore and the kind of semiotic trope of the kind of man-wife hosts on TV together
He's starting to include even that dynamic of a marital spat as Joe tries to sort of walk the tightrope between saying that he still loves Joe Biden but he should step aside, clutching his heart at one moment before Micah pursues that Other democrat neoliberal establishment narrative of no matter what no matter what there's keep even if Joe Biden has to be pushed around in a wheelbarrow like c-3po when he's being pulled apart we still gotta put him on Chewbacca's back
Have him carried around in a rucksack and try to decipher Chewie's... Maybe that would be a better debating style.
Here they are, Morning Joe and Mrs. Morning Joe, grappling with a reality that can no longer be reliably held down.
If, however, you believe, as do I, and as do so many people who watch this program, and who Fear.
It's just how dark of a place a second Donald Trump term will take America.
And I think it's critical that we ask the same questions about this man I love, respect, I suppose the framing is, it doesn't matter how demented, and I'm afraid I'm using that word literally, Joe Biden is, a second Trump term will be so dark, so awful.
He's already been president for four years.
I didn't think it was that bad.
I didn't really notice any difference, except the late night talk shows were all unified in their condemnation of a sitting president in a way that they wouldn't consider being currently, for example.
What was so significantly different?
I know that the MAGA folk out there were saying that it was better, there was more jobs and there was manufacturing increased and this was better and you had a better sort of feeling of patriotic priapism, you felt a bit more boosted and stuff.
But what I'm trying to do is neutralise the partisanship and say we're talking about two presidents who have each been president for one term, roughly four years each.
I don't know, it's not like Under one of them, we all turned into orbs of pure consciousness, and under the other, sort of serpent creatures rained down from black clouds and we were all devoured by them.
It was more or less the fucking same!
And who's public service in saving this country from Donald Trump over the last three and a half years, I honour and always will.
I think we have to ask the same questions of him that we have asked of Donald Trump since 2016.
And that is, if he were CEO and he turned in a performance like that.
She's not happy about where he's going, is she?
She's looking down.
She's looking down into cardigan land.
Oh, no, no.
He's being quite critical here.
Would any corporation in America, any Fortune 500 corporation in America, keep him on as CEO?
It was the worst debate performance in modern political history.
And the question, Mika, I know that has to be asked is, you believe...
Yeah.
What is it?
I'm not even going to pretend to like you anymore, Morning Joe.
You have too many fucking holidays for one thing.
Amy, it was not the same.
I know a lot of you, you know, the no wars.
No wars was good.
I like no wars.
I liked no wars.
It may have just been because he had a cold last night because he wasn't feeling well.
There's so many opportunities that were missed last night that I don't think a cold is what...
Like, this is me when I get a cold.
Oh, excuse me, I've got a bit of a cold.
I don't turn into a person who's barely able to operate my anatomy.
Dear old Joe Biden, it's completely clear and has been for a couple of years now, hasn't it?
Let's face it, that he's got some dementia, senility or dementia, and should be being carefully catered for, not just for his own well-being, but so that the people of America at large don't begin to think that their figures and public officials Our little more than marionettes placed at the front of the stage while true global corporate power continues its dark masquerade.
In order to prevent us realising that modern bipartisan democracy is a kind of sham, you should at this point see a hook emerge from the side of the stage, yank him off and then shove out dear old Kamala Harris Whipping up a word salad for everyone.
Just before we go to our fantastic guest, Cali Means.
I said Cali Means.
Write it down in the chat.
Write it down.
Cali Means, he's an expert in big food, big pharma, and corruption.
Cali Means.
No, it's not spelled like that.
It's not Cali.
You're writing it down.
It's not a T at the end of it.
You lunatic.
It's not Calais like Chalet means.
It's Cali.
Like Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali.
Yes!
Yeah, don't do a capital E. Post it like that so everyone sees what I was watching.
I was just watching it being posted out of the chat and I actually misspelt it.
I'm guessing that was Jim.
Was that you, Jim?
Nick?
Who was it?
I mean, it's not a shaming situation.
Everyone's made mistakes.
I mean, you should see some of the things on my ex-feed.
It's absolute chaos out there.
Kali means... No, I don't even know if it's IE out there.
It's not Kali Meat!
It's not Ketamine!
Kaki... Kali Pokemon!
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Let's have a look at Micah desperately trying to scramble.
Not Catimones!
Not Calimari!
Oh, I'm getting that.
I'm fuming.
I'm fucking fuming about this.
If you're watching on YouTube, we'll be here for a few more minutes.
Now, Joe, our Joe, is off this morning on a bland vacation.
That sounds like you're trying to cover an unplanned vacation.
He's not had a mental breakdown because he realizes that everyone knows now that he's been lying about Joe Biden for the last couple of years.
This was a holiday.
He is not khaki jeans!
This is a holiday, a vacation that he's been planning for a very, very long time.
He likes to go and practice his facial expressions in Sarasota for months.
On end.
On Friday's show, I should clarify, Joe said it may be time for Biden to consider stepping aside.
May.
Consider.
Two qualifying words.
He also said we should wait a few days to see how he responds.
We're shoulder-to-shoulder on- Celestial beings!
That.
I do agree.
Joe Biden has work to do.
He has to do better.
It's not like work to do, he has to do better.
Right, he could improve from here.
We've got a good foundation of terrible senility.
Let's build on that.
That's not reliable, is it?
It's like, we've got them things that go down the stairs.
Let's build a house on it.
What are those things?
Slinkies.
It's a slinky.
His mind is like a slinky.
His team has to do a lot better.
Tacky beans!
I'm just not ready though to count Joe Biden out.
That tells you everything.
I'm not ready.
She's like personally not ready.
I'm still going to cling on.
To, for dear life, to the idea that Joe Biden is somehow capable, and indeed, when we're with Callie Means.
I'm going to talk, actually, Callie, in a minute, with you, mate, about, like, Joy Reid, because that's a really lovely moment, it's a lovely clip, I want to get to it.
So, what we're watching here is the establishment, at least the media establishment, can't even formulate a cohesive response to its own visible entropy, perhaps unable to tackle the fact That the decay is the clear signal.
That the decay is what's been masked for such a long time now.
I'm not referring to Joe Biden's decay.
I'm talking about institutional decay.
I'm talking about the need for radical change.
Radical change of the deep state.
Radical change when it comes to lobbying.
And when I say, you know, there basically was no difference between Trump's four years and Biden's four years, consider this.
Consider a government that said, We're not accepting lobbying money anymore.
We're not accepting donations anymore.
We are decentralising power.
I'm going to make the role of government the bare minimum.
We are going to ensure that our defence budget is only spent on our troops and military personnel.
We ain't having 70% of that budget going via the Pentagon and shooting off into Lockheed Martin and Raytheon and Northrop Grumman.
That's over.
Them days are gone.
Those days are over.
What you would see is powerful interests fleeing, and until you have a political party that's offering you that, you don't got much, baby.
Listen, we can't start the countdown on YouTube.
We're leaving you, darling.
I love you, but I need more.
We are going now to be exclusively on Rumble, baby, where I'll be talking to Kali Means.
That's C-A- if you start the countdown.
C-A-L-L-E-Y, new word, M-E-A-N-S, and I'll be talking to him about the FDA, I'll be talking to him about Big Food, and I'll be talking to him about Big Pharma Baby.
Click the link in the description, join us over there, see you in a second.
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If you can read, you will now be able to read the words "Cali means".
Callie Means is not only a brilliant expert, he happens to be my friend.
He's written a book called Good Energy.
Callie, are you there?
I'm here, Russell.
Kali, it's so good to see you.
Thank you for staying with us.
Aside from these complications in your name in the rumble chat, it seems that we've created an environment for you in which to thrive.
You were the first person that made me understand Ozempic.
You were the first person that made me understand that the function of big food is to make us sick.
That big food and big pharma seem to operate in lockstep.
That if we could understand that consumerism starts with the mouth, And what we put in our mouth, what we put in our bodies, defines us as a culture and as a society.
Callie, I've learned so much from you.
I'm very excited to read your new book, Good Energy.
I want to start where you want to start, mate.
And it seems to me that you are most interested in talking about obesity, first of all.
Is that right?
I'll go wherever you want, Russell.
I think these all tie together.
Because, well, I mean, I know a lot of the stuff you've done around Zempik has sort of showed us in real time how the pharmaceutical industry sort of revs up and fires up new opportunities for revenue and sort of bypasses common sense as well as legislation.
And I wonder if you'll even touch on the fact that, you know, the F in FDA is for food.
regulate food and drugs is an extraordinary little cartel they've got given where they
receive the majority of their funding. Yeah I mean listening to you talk about the debate and talk
about what's happening in our politics with Biden, I think the food issue and this obesity issue
really ties to I think the biggest issue, the biggest dynamic of the past decade which is the
breakdown of institutions.
I think we have the Uniparty in the United States desperate to maintain control, even if that somebody doesn't have cognitive function.
We have, you know, populist uprisings on the left and the right throughout Europe, as we see in the UK and France.
I think people are just lashing out about the co-opting of our government by industry.
It's coming out in various ways, but the biggest industry in the United States is healthcare.
It's not AI.
It's not tech.
It's healthcare.
Fundamentally, the healthcare system and then the food system right behind it has co-opted the government.
When it comes to obesity, We have a situation where, just as a simple statement of economic fact, our biggest industries profit when we're poisoned.
They profit when we're sick.
I tie it to the food companies, because most people don't even realize this.
The processed food industry in the United States was created by the tobacco industry.
You know, in 1990, when you know, the 80s, you had the Wall Street and you had all these M&A deals.
The two biggest M&A deals in American history up until 1990 were cigarette companies buying food companies.
As cigarettes were declining, they actually bought food companies.
They bought Kraft, they bought U.S.
Foods, you know, they bought Nabisco, R.J.
Reynolds and Philip Morris.
Those two companies were the biggest food companies in the world in the 1990s.
And what they did is they shifted their tobacco scientists, their addiction specialists, to food.
And then they also shifted their lobbyists.
So around the world, we exported the food pyramid, which said ultra-processed food, carbs, sugar was fine.
We got both the United States and people in the UK and people throughout Europe more addicted to ultra-processed food, saying that the ingredients, the thousands of chemicals that tobacco scientists made the food addictive were fine.
We got addictive and we got much, much fatter.
Now that in America that 80% of the American people are obese or overweight, instead of actually talking about how we should de-rig the system that the tobacco industry actually created with our food, we're saying that 80% of Americans need a drug, a lifetime drug.
That's much more profitable.
And what's sad to see is that our healthcare leaders not only aren't speaking out about that, they're in bed with both the food industry and the drug industry, the Food and Drug Administration.
Kali, this is precisely the type of point that I am indeed trying to make.
Which of the two parties is offering the electorate a pledge to break up these cartels and radically alter... Like, you know, we have to come to you to hear that kind of discourse.
I want a political party that says we're not even considering the fact that food has become poisonous, that big pharma makes us sick, that defence creates war, that we're living in some kind of bureaucratic paradox where the various agencies that are charged with protection do near enough the opposite to what they pledge.
These kind of conversations aren't available In the MAGA space or in the, you know, RFK is the sort of person that is talking about this kind of stuff.
Is that fair?
Does Donald Trump have anti-FDA or anti-Big Food views?
Do you feel that either one of the candidates would make a difference in the area of your expertise?
For example, just with what you said about the tobacco industries co-opting Big Food and using it as a sort of a second addictive tool.
Well, I think we have a huge dynamic with RFK, you know, who has, I think, very ably articulated this devil's bargain between the food and the pharmaceutical industry made it the pillar of our campaign.
But I think we have to give credit to President Trump.
I mean, the foundation of his candidacy, and let's just back up and look at President Trump, whatever you think of him.
This has been the dominant figure in American politics for the past 10 years.
He is a vessel that voters continually, election after election, are gravitating towards and trying to say something.
What are those voters trying to tell us?
I believe that the foundation of Trump's candidacy, the thesis of his candidacy, is that our institutions are breaking down and letting people down.
Yeah.
And the biggest institution in the United States, the institution I would argue that affects us more than anything is our health.
I mean, just look at what's happening to kids.
33% have prediabetes, 50% of teens are overweight or obese.
This is a unique problem in America.
It's a moral stain in our country.
In Japan, the childhood obesity rate is 3%.
Fatty liver disease of teens, 25%.
The mental health disorders among teens in the United States and really throughout the world are exploding.
I believe that voters and Trump is a vessel to express that frustration.
I think Trump and RFK are the two most anti-establishment candidates, whatever you think of them in recent American history.
And I think there is an all-out war to delegitimize both of these candidates and make us think they're not valid.
And I think it's any means necessary, not because of partisan politics, But because of uniparty and corporate control of our political system.
My personal position is that anti-establishment candidates are an absolute necessity now in your country and in mine and whatever reservations and doubts you may have about them just the very fact that the establishment objects to them is reason enough to support them in order to at least ignite the necessary change that we've been discussing for some time.
Do you think that if Biden were to get a second term In spite of his odd and somewhat ridiculous mantra that they'd beat Big Pharma just by imposing what seemed like pretty moderate measures, the Zempik would become the de facto solution to the problem of obesity that is given to children and I understand we have some footage of so you can fire that in now guys.
Audio-less, audio-less, and it plays in conjunction with Callie.
So Callie, we should be looking at that in screen with me and Callie.
Right.
Thanks.
Thanks, guys.
Yeah, get that straight.
Cheers.
So, yeah, Callie, tell me what you, tell me, mate, do you think that if Trump is elected, these are the type of drugs that will be regulated and controlled?
Yeah, I've been chatting regularly with RFK, who's been a hero on this issue, and also with Republican leaders and folks that are close to Trump.
I know you just talked to Don Jr.
Don Jr.
has actually been very strong on this issue, and I know he cares deeply about our food system and pharmaceutical corruption.
I think there's a lot of people on both sides.
So let me just explain what road we're going on with our current system, and then how I do think Trump and RFK understand this issue.
Ozempic is so important because we have this situation where I called it a dirty tank.
We have a dirty fish tank.
And instead of cleaning that tank, addressing why 50% of the teens have obesity, the American Academy of Pediatrics, which sets pediatric care standards throughout the world and in the United States, 90% of their funding comes from pharma.
One of their biggest donors is Novo Nordics, this Danish company, and they haven't been speaking about kids eating ultra processed food, as we talked about before, food stamp funding, going to soda, the number one item, you know, basically that we subsidize sugary drinks for kids.
They haven't spoken about that, but now that kids are obese, They're saying that this needs to be the first-line defense for a 12-year-old, and they're now studying it for 6-year-olds.
We're very close on the road to where if a 6-year-old is overweight in the United States, the American Academy of Pediatrics doesn't say diet and lifestyle.
They actually say a first-line defense needs to be this lifetime drug.
Now, why is that the case?
Because this drug is $1,800 per month, per patient, per year.
Excuse me, $1,800 per month, okay?
It's a lifetime drug.
And in the United States, drug prices don't go down, its volume goes up.
So the pharmaceutical industry, and again, this isn't conspiratorial, this is a statement of economic fact, is the largest funder of politicians.
Of regulatory agencies, they fund 75% of the FDA, of research institutions, they're the largest funder of medical research, and the media itself, they fund 50% of mainstream media TV spending, which is now saying that Ozempic has to be the answer, and they're actually saying you're anti-science if you talk about diet and lifestyle.
I'm not even joking about that.
The 60 Minutes and other mainstream news programs are having a Harvard doctor on that says you are anti-science.
If you say obesity is tied to what children are eating, it is a genetic condition and quote a brain disease.
So that's the type of environment.
It's the COVID playbook.
You are anti-science.
If you talk about exercising, you're anti-science about asking why we're getting sick.
It is following the science to jab and drug ourselves.
And the last of the stakes here, Russell, are, you know, our human capital is being depleted.
And it's not working, drugging the problem.
I mean, the more statins we prescribe, the more heart disease is going up, the more metformin we prescribe, the more diabetes is going up.
We're getting more and more depressed as we take more antidepressants.
So, I just think it's the moral clarity.
It's the ability to go up against this monolithic, powerful system that's kind of created our rules and be able to say, enough is enough.
And I think, again, whatever you think of them, Donald Trump and RFK are the two candidates in our lifetime who have that understanding of these dynamics and have the courage, potentially, to go after it.
Yeah, that's encouraging, at least.
A few things to flag here is that under Obama, the head of food safety at the FDA was a former Monsanto lobbyist.
And I suppose that's... Yeah, can I just... No, I still need to cally and scream.
Thanks, guys.
I would say that when you have something as serious and significant as the type of cancer increases that we're currently experiencing, that too is a sort of seismic challenge that needs to be addressed.
Do you think that there's a danger, Callie?
I'm looking at you, Callie, now in the screen, guys.
Let's leave Callie in there and then just keep The pips in this monitor, if you could manage that in the gallery.
Is that possible for you, or is that something you're struggling with, guys?
Just let me know on microphone now, if you don't mind.
No, let me know if it's possible, or using your language in the microphone.
Is it possible?
Hello, gallery?
I can't hear you, gallery.
I'm just asking you a question.
Gallery?
Hello?
Would you answer me, please, so I know, through the mic?
Hello?
Alright, come in then if you can't answer me.
Come in, if you can't answer me.
Don't leave me hanging, remember we talked about this last week, if you don't mind.
Thank you.
So remember, does the mic work?
Doesn't work either.
Okay guys.
So like, with something like as significant as these radical cancer increases, Callie, I wonder, mate, if you consider it a possibility that recent medical interventions during the pandemic period have contributed to this extraordinary rise.
I know that it's been taking place over decades rather than years, but do you think it's possible that these somewhat untried medications have potentially contributed to increased cancers, and in particular what have been called turbo cancers?
Well, there's a couple dynamics to unpack here.
Cancer rates, as you said, are at their highest rate in history in 2024 and they're skyrocketing among kids.
The New York Times recently had a front page headline that said cancer rates are exploding among children.
Nobody knows why.
Russell, we know why.
And I've never been, you know, if you told me 15 years ago as a conservative lobbyist that I'd be talking about nutrition, I would have said, you know, you're crazy.
That wasn't my issue.
You know, but fundamentally these are very basic things.
We're eating food that Monsanto has lobbied and literally they have their lobbyists running big parts of the FDA with glyphosate and other chemicals that clearly are tied to cancer and other issues.
You know, we have thousands of chemicals in our food that I mean, just as a data point, it debuted at number one.
It's really, I think, catching a nerve.
And the point of the book is really simple.
It's that we're being lied to.
We're being lied to that the exploding rates of autoimmune conditions, cancer, diabetes, heart disease, we're told this is all complicated.
It's actually very simple.
Our ultra-processed food consumption, has gone up from 20% to 70% in a generation.
We have, you know, just chronic stress with our phones, especially that we give our kids.
We're sleeping an hour less than we did just 50 years ago.
We're so sedentary that 78% of American 21-year-olds aren't eligible to join the military.
You know, we've got basic dynamics that are just demonstrably hurting ourselves, and it's very damaging to the existing healthcare system to point out these simple facts.
What the healthcare system does, and we talk about in the book, is, you know, my sister, the first day of Stanford Med School, she's trained that Americans are lazy, and that they're going to get sick, and that the medical system treats people once they're sick.
That is a very profitable idea, right?
But you have to understand that everyone in healthcare just accepts that we get sick.
They profit from managing disease.
That's where 95% of healthcare spending goes.
You know, cancer is a preventable condition.
It's a preventable disease.
My mom died of pancreatic cancer.
Our oncologist at Stanford said that was unlucky.
It wasn't unlucky.
Pancreatic cancer is tied to diabetes, which she had, and blood sugar desirculation, and smoking is to lung cancer.
You can really tie cancer rates to what we're eating and other issues like
diabetes. We don't even have curiosity about that. So that's the radical shift that is really resonating
on both sides of the aisle, but particularly with Trump and RFK. It's not about lecturing
people about eating healthier or exercising, but a doctor, when they're sitting across
the table from somebody with high cholesterol, with high blood sugar, with that first sign of
an issue, there's a huge moment where does that doctor prescribe a drug or does the doctor
talk about what's actually underlying happening in that patient's body?
If we shifted to a system where that doctor is actually spreading curiosity about the underlying causes of that disease, we're both going to feel better today, but we're also going to prevent diseases like cancer and dementia, which is a form of diabetes.
Yes, truly.
It's called type 3 diabetes.
We can prevent that down the road.
But again, Russell, that is a threat to the largest and fastest growing industry in the country, the healthcare industry, which has completely bought off the unit party.
How extraordinary that the alarming performance that we saw from Joe Biden in those debates is in some ways a consequence of the kind of systems when it comes to nutrition and regulation that he is in fact the epitome of.
Your book, and the incredible success of your book, debuting, I think, at number one on the New York Times, but also on Amazon, that you wrote, as you've mentioned, in conjunction with your sister, Dr. Casey Means.
I suppose the success of that book is an indication that there's an incredible appetite for truth, and that's not the kind of truth that's Easy to get any more within the establishment for all of its kind of the vanguardia in its rhetoric is an incredibly conservative organization by nature that the function of the legacy media is to prevent real
The function of the establishment is to ensure that power remains constricted and manageable, that the kind of interests that you've spent the last 20 minutes describing to us aren't challenged by the only force that could ever truly challenge them, a well-informed population armed with the facts and willing to oppose the narratives that we're currently dealing with.
I'm interested to get your take, Kali, on the rise in interest in not only psychedelics, but also MDMA.
And when we were mucking around on YouTube earlier, you mentioned ketamine.
Are these mental health drugs or psych drugs and new emergent potential solutions part of a new conversation that could similarly affect the profits and Of Big Pharma.
Is it possible that the truth is being withheld when it comes to the efficacy of the medications we're currently prescribed and these new and emergent medications?
Well I'm glad you brought up psychedelics as I'm wearing my blue sports coat.
I like to talk about this not with my shaman outfit but looking like a conservative nerd because I do think this is a very important bipartisan issue.
And I'm talking a lot to people on the right and the left about this because I think the coming wave of psychedelics, which has always been kind of a dominion of the left, is actually being seen now as a bipartisan Even a right word, a lot of people are embracing issue, and here's why.
And just to set the table, I think this actually gets to the core of what's wrong with our healthcare system and is an extremely important societal dynamic.
So my main issue, my main message, is that in America particularly, we're not getting to the root cause.
$4.5 trillion of healthcare is spent on managing disease once people are sick.
Fundamentally, just as a simple statement of economic fact, a child that gets sick, depressed, that is eventually infertile, is overweight, that's a very profitable patient for the system because there's a lot of conditions to manage and American in fear is easy to control and very profitable.
Again, that's just a simple statement of economic fact.
No, depression is the biggest of them all, of health issues.
25% of women are on a mental health medication right now.
We're really struggling in the United States with meaning and mental health.
But that predominant method, the SSRIs, fundamentally numb you out from reality and they don't cure.
They're a lifetime drug.
The science and psychedelics are profound.
In one therapy session, a high-dose psilocybin therapy session, people see dramatic remissions in PTSD, depression, And how does that happen?
According to the research and my personal experience is the most impactful experience of my life of therapeutic psychedelic sessions and sent me in my entire trajectory.
It helps you get to the root cause of your trauma.
It helps you reset some pathways.
It helps you see the world and issues that were holding you back from a different dimension and different way and kind of outside of the ruts that we all have.
That's fundamentally what the experience and what this medication does.
That is very disruptive for the medical system because a one-time treatment that helps you get to the root cause is not the business model.
The business model is numbing symptoms and recurring revenue.
So the industry, the mental health industry, the pharma industry, is actually using every trick in the book to delegitimize this research and stop FDA approval, even
though across the board, literally without exception, the doctors who've studied this at Johns
Hopkins and Harvard and other institutions have said it's the most promising mental
health research of their careers.
So this is a big fight and I want everyone to understand who hasn't really looked into
this research, there's nothing more important than our brains.
There's nothing more important than the trauma narratives that are holding us back.
That's the first order issue and there is a war right now.
Let me be very clear, there is a war from the FDA to prevent the American people from having access to their own brains.
Oh wow, that's so fantastic.
It really makes sense when you zoom out into the big picture like that.
I was listening to you and paying very close attention, but also thinking that the systems that are being suggested by the nature of the problem are decentralized and localized systems of food production that wherever possible you should be eating food that's grown reared or hunted as close as possible as to where it will ultimately be eaten and the impact of that would be devastating decimating to big food and ultimately big pharma because when you start talking about psychedelics ultimately operating as a kind of opportunity to have a
Psychological, and maybe even perhaps more appropriately, spiritual reset.
You're starting to approach what we're dealing with here.
People are being treated as kind of blobs on a conveyor belt, as you said.
Sick from childhood, medicated throughout their lives, continually consuming.
It's clear that somewhere, Callie, and maybe you've seen them, there are charts and graphs Where Americans are represented as numbers, where we require this percentage of the population to eat this type of food, or to be on this drug.
Yeah, the charts exist.
At the recent JP Morgan Healthcare Conference in San Francisco, which is the largest confab of healthcare investors, they showed charts of the increasing depression rates of Americans and increasing obesity rates and people gave a standing ovation.
People and investors and the pharmaceutical community cheers the fact that we're getting sicker, fatter, more depressed.
Literally, quite literally.
And you're absolutely right, Russell, and that's why a lot of people ask, well, you're saying kind of anti-drug, but then you're talking about psychedelics.
It's about following the science and getting to the root cause.
When it comes to 9 out of the 10 killers of Americans, from cancer to diabetes to heart disease to kidney disease to even COVID deaths, these are fundamentally tied to the functioning of our cells and basic habits like what we're eating, how we're sleeping, how we're moving.
And we are completely and utterly, you know, distracted by that fact from the medical system.
Because a child that learns metabolic healthy habits is not profitable.
But a child that's on ozempic and statins and SSRIs and Adderall, which is one molecule away from meth, which is prescribed to 15% of high school students in the United States, that's a profitable patient.
Not only because they're racking up So, you have the USDA saying it's dangerous to farm your own food.
because they're not learning the habits that are needed for health and they're
going to just continue to be more and more expensive patients. So you have
the USDA saying it's dangerous to farm your own food. You have the FDA saying
it's dangerous to take psychedelics, psilocybin, which is the safest drug out
of all 20 drugs actually an international body studied on side
effects and addictiveness and things like that.
It's the lowest side effect, safest drug there is, and they're saying that's dangerous because it helps you get to the root cause of what's going on in your brain.
You know, we're hearing that it's, you know, dangerous to drink raw milk, but fine to serve kids Coca-Cola.
You know, you fundamentally have a corporatist uniparty doing the bidding of an institution Uh, that just fundamentally, you know, wants us to be addicted and sick.
Um, and, you know, from the top down, I think it's why, I'll just be direct, it's existential, uh, that we have a president who communicates this issue, who understands that it's more than healthcare, it's just corruption.
Corruption is the issue that's gonna bring the American experiment down.
And healthcare is the biggest example of that.
We need a president who understands that.
And from the bottoms up, we need people to start checking out of the system when it comes to chronic conditions, when it comes to mental health.
We are not being led correctly.
And I think people are flocking to that.
With books, with podcasts.
And I think it's why there is such a war on independent media.
Because it's very disruptive to get these ideas out.
There's clearly a correlation between the way that we are mentally imprisoned when it comes to the ideas that we have access to and the ideas that are inaccessible through censorship.
And like you said, Americans are being denied access to their own brains and kind of external attempts to enclose and incarcerate us physically through various means and measures.
I was very struck, Callie, by what you said.
That is one molecule away from That's a pretty terrifying, if catchy, offering there.
And also I want to pass on a few of the questions and inquiries that have been coming through from our Rumble chat as well.
Audrey DB said, how is veganism not environmentally friendly?
It is veganism.
Veganism, there was a big push for that.
Fake meats, lab meats, all that kind of stuff for a while.
What's your take on veganism and what interests were pushing for veganism?
Because from Turbo1980 in the chat, I saw a whole list of names like Soros and Gates, and I think he was relating it to issues around food and big food and the control of food at a global level.
I wonder if there's any connection between those two ideas, Callie.
That's a great question.
So in the book we talk about how when we hear about a dietary philosophy, and my sister used to be a militant vegan and has evolved on this, but dietary philosophies are generally, you should be very skeptical of, and are tools of corporate interests to sell you something and not to improve the environment or improve your health.
I think it's totally fine to be on a path of veganism as long as you're on Whole Foods.
As I said, my sister was on that path and realized and brought some meat in.
What we really realized and what I think is really the most important issue to understand is that we have to get back to basics.
A cow that is raised on GMO corn feed in a factory farming situation, they are bad for the environment and very bad for our health.
The things they're being fed with the corn and soy and things they're not made to eat actually changes the makeup of their body, makes that animal actually less healthy and makes it bad for the environment.
A cow raised regeneratively, how cows have always been raised up until 50 years ago, actually is neutral slash potentially even positive.
for the environment.
Regenerative agriculture is carbon neutral.
So the key, I think, is getting back to basics.
It's not seeing, as Bill Gates says, innovation as lab-grown meat and other things in processed routes that our body is not made to handle.
I see innovation as using AI, using technology to figure out how to get back to basics, to figuring out how to raise plants and animals together in a cohesive ecosystem, which helps the soil.
You know, to figure out how to raise food that our body is biologically made to eat.
Right now, ultra-processed food, the key ingredients are processed grains, sugar, and seed oils.
Those are new manufactured ingredients.
Just fundamentally, if we can You know, raise and feed our bodies with food that the way it's been made to eat, that's better for the environment, that's better for us.
So I would just, I really do worry about the vegan kind of agenda being a scare tactic to get us away from productively raised meat and really ecosystems with farming that are the way it's supposed to be.
Yeah, there seems to be a war against farmers and an attempt to control agriculture everywhere in the world.
Farmers are up in arms in our country, in yours, in India, in Sri Lanka.
There seems to be some globalist movement to use environmental ideas to exert control on farming.
As usual, we're being protected by these peculiar globalist forces.
I wonder if you have anything to say on that subject and whether or not it aligns with Warren Buffett, who seems to have made a good deal of his considerable fortune by investing in addiction.
Cigarettes via Philip Morris, McDonald's, Coke, Dairy Queen, but even he has cut ties with Bill Gates.
How does this tie into this global agenda?
100%.
So taking the first question, RFK speaks very eloquently about this, and Trump is frankly speaking more about needing to stick up for small farmers.
But our soil in America, like what produces our life, but the soil basically puts nutrients into our food.
It's depleted.
A tomato in the United States has 70% less nutrients than it did 50 years ago.
So our farming practices have absolutely just robbed our food of its nutritional value.
So rather than getting into a dietary philosophy of vegan versus carnivore or these games that I think the system wants us to fight over, we've got to ask, are we getting back to basics?
Are we getting to good farming practices?
Are we getting to pasture-raised beef?
Are we getting to regeneratively raised items?
Because if we get back to how food is supposed to be grown and raised and ranched, you're inevitably going to be better for the environment.
And if veganism is just a wrap on an ultra-processed food factory farming agenda, you should be very, very skeptical.
Warren Buffett, I think, ties into this.
It's interesting.
And it gets back to my point on why we have industrial agriculture that's really biased towards ultra-processed food.
Why we have this devil's bargain where the food industry is making us sick and addicted, and the pharma industry is complicit in profiting.
It's because Warren Buffett realized early on this point about a sick child, and I just want to make this clear one more time, and it's just, it's a statement of economic fact.
A child that gets addicted to sugar, a child that gets addicted to ultra processed food, a child that continues to be, you know, sick over time and addicted, that is a profitable person.
They're the greatest economic goldmine.
In capitalism is our dopamine and when you actually look at Warren Buffett's investment returns, his performance was driven by actually eight companies above all else.
You can kind of like throw away the rest and almost all those companies preyed upon dopamine.
He actually built his career investing in cigarette companies, and that was a very targeted strategy for him.
Then, of course, he bought Dairy Queen.
He bought See's Candies, which has actually been one of his best investments.
He was the largest owner of Coca-Cola.
He was the largest owner of McDonald's.
So, you know, you can judge this morally however you want, but as an investor, he was a genius for over 40 years, realizing that dopamine is a great, great tool And really making that connection between cigarettes and food.
Now, that's, you know, the way the game is played.
He made a lot of money that way, but this gets back to the top down.
This system is going to destroy America.
You know, just fundamentally our financial, our health, our economic systems being dependent on Americans getting sicker is not a sustainable trajectory.
I don't think it's a free market.
This is a rigged market because, you know, our ultra processed food is subsidized.
Well, my plant's coming down here.
The plant's trying to tell me something.
I think that's because when you criticized vegans.
This is kind of a sign, actually, on the regenerative agriculture.
Help me, Kelly!
Why don't you practice what you preach?
You're not giving me any water!
I think the plant was giving me a hug for what we were saying.
Thanks for sticking up for us, boss!
Well, listen, let me take that opportunity to say that he'll like love in our Awakened Wonder chat on Locals, for our members said of Warren Buffett, our dopamine is their gold.
And I like it the way, even when you have very powerful individuals like that, In a sense, they're part of a system that rewards a particular type of behaviour.
On one hand, the commodity that they're mining is within our own biochemistry, and the system that controls them is a sort of an economic superstructure within which they are just a particularly successful node that has to be occupied by someone.
And it shows you sort of both from our perspective as individuals that we require a degree of control, or at least a different type of focus, and systemically there needs to be radical change.
Otherwise, you know, you replace one billionaire or one globalist and another one will just pop up to take its place.
Also, A Miller 24 in the chat says, "I'm ordering Callie's book, Good Energy,
"The Surprising Connection Between Metabolism "And Limitless Health right now."
We'll post a link for that in the chat right away.
And I wanted to take the chance here, Callie, to talk to you about lobbying.
As we approach this election, in the 2020 cycle, the food and beverage political donations
amounted to 56 million in total, and that was split 22 million to the Democrat party,
29 million to the Republican party, roughly 50/50, more or less.
And when it came to Big Pharma in the last election cycle, there was 80 million spent on lobbying, that is,
and 50 million of that went to the Dems, and 29 to the Republicans, so just under 80.
So again, this is sort of kind of a systemic stranglehold that's pretty prohibitive.
And I hope that you're right about Bobby Kennedy and Donald Trump, that these anti-establishment figures
who certainly, in their discourse, understand that most people are, well, both literally,
but also psychologically, sick of these systems, are a significant part of the electorate,
and we all actually really want change.
And the kind of change that you're talking about would...
We kind of mean the breaking up of big food, the breaking up of big pharma, the ability of people to eat good local food, become healthier and stronger and more awakened.
I mean, that is a radically different America, a radically different world, isn't it?
I think it's an embrace of American principles.
I mean, what I think is resonating when I talk to folks on the right, when I talk to folks on the left, is that it's not about slanting Americans to eat healthy or exercise.
It's just following the science and correcting incentives.
I don't think Americans are trying to kill themselves.
You know, my mom who died early, you know, and had diabetes.
High cholesterol, eventually got the pancreatic cancer.
I can tell you, she wanted to live, and I think most Americans who have diabetes, heart disease, cancer, we're kind of lied to, right?
That everyone's trying to get sick, that we can't really help it.
You know, when there's epidemic cancer rates, epidemic autoimmune condition rates, epidemic obesity rates, there's really systemic problems.
I'm a personal responsibility guy, as you know, Russell, but like when it's the majority of the American people are getting sick all at once, I think you've got to look at the system and incentives, and Yeah, but you are right.
This will be a radical change.
We're not living in a capitalist society right now.
We're living in a cryptocracy where corporate interests are completely slanting our institutions, as you point out every day, from the military, from education to health.
Our big institutions are not producing safety.
They're not producing educated children.
They're not producing healthy Americans.
They've been co-opted because they're jobs programs and there's a lot of corruption that's not in the interest those industries are supposed to serve.
So, yeah, unpacking this incentive is going to be really, really disruptive.
Unpacking the devil's bargain between food and healthcare is going to cause short-term economic dislocation because these are the most employed industries in the country.
But I would just argue, given the rates of sickness, given how healthcare spending is going to bankrupt our country, Given the, I could tell you, I don't know if it's the same case in the UK, but going into a classroom for my young child and looking at, it's not a good feeling.
Nobody feels like what's happening with kids is on a good trajectory.
So, when are we going from the top down to say enough?
And when are politicians going to increasingly realize that channeling what you're talking about, that channeling what Joe Rogan's talking about, that channeling what the most popular books are talking about, that channeling where Americans are gravitating towards is questioning our institutions and questioning why we're getting sick.
And there's huge political resonance in unpacking that.
Man, we've got a few more inquiries from the chat that I'd love to pass your way.
One is from The Unicorn Plug.
Have you heard that Coca-Cola is actually the world's most elite water mafia next to Nestle?
Is that true?
Are they acquiring water?
Are they controlling water?
I don't know what they mean there by water mafia, but I wanted to put that question your way.
As well as this from Goose McGrain, who's put this many times in the Rumble chat.
Ask Callie about vitamin B17 and cancer.
So there's a couple of things I'd love to pass on to you there.
Great questions.
So, I am pretty cynical about why, you know, let's just call the fact a fact, why Bill Gates is buying up more farmland than any human who's ever existed, why George Soros is so interested in our food and water systems, why there's such a push from elite systems to push us into an ultra-processed food system, you know, and why water politics, you know, are such an interest of the elites.
If you control the food, you control the people.
That's a tried-and-true aphorism, and I think when big corporations and elites are buying up our farmland and really controlling our water supply, which is what's happening, I think that should be a big concern.
I do think, given how concentrated our farming system is becoming and how low-resilient it's becoming as we're becoming more of industrial farming and not having small Farmers anymore.
I think that we are on the verge of a food or water crisis, and I think that's a really good question.
On the vitamin B12 to cancer, I just can't stress this enough, and this is why this book is resonating.
A book I'm proud to say has outsold Dr. Fauci's new book.
I think Americans are gravitating towards messages of empowerment, and the key point here Is that cancer is a preventable condition tied to food.
Wow.
And there's steps you can take, and through my sister's genius, there's really tactical step-by-step actions with the key point that actually feeling better today, reversing your anxiety, sleeping better, steps you take to feel better today can demonstrably and significantly lower your chances of getting a life-threatening disease like cancer down the road.
So we unpack that in the book.
I'm going to get myself a copy of that book.
It's written by Callie and his sister Casey, and it sounds like a very practically useful and ideologically informative piece of writing.
And I'm astonished to hear that it's doing better than one of my favourite authors, Dr Anthony Fauci, who's a very good writer, but is it okay to find him sexually attractive?
Is that alright?
That that guy is a heartthrob?
Come for the medical advice.
Whatever.
No judgment there, Russell.
Whatever gets you going.
That's a little masochistic, but it's okay.
I like it.
I like to be controlled.
It's as simple as that.
Callie, thank you for joining me.
We'll post a link to your book on the chat and to all of our social media sites because it's no obligation at all to support your brilliant and informative work.
I'm hoping that we can do more together going forward and form a kind of alliance that eventually becomes a revolutionary force that takes over.
We don't take over the world, I don't want any power.
We create templates that other people can use to take over their communities and then we can just sit back and enjoy our dotage eventually.
Thank you, sir.
You're a hero.
Cully Means, thank you so much for your time today.
Thank you, mate.
I'll speak to you again soon.
Thanks.
Lots of love, mate.
Well, thank you so much for joining us.
That concludes our show today.
We will be back tomorrow.
We're getting ready, of course, for Thursday the 11th, when the announcement as to whether or not Donald Trump will go to jail, like his former advisor Steve Bannon, will be made.
In the intervening time, of course, we're going to be discussing the Fallout from the debate, the increasing clamor for war and NATO involvement in the Ukraine-Russia conflict, as well as doing our best to understand the complexity of matters in the Middle East and what our obligations are when it comes to ending all of that.
I think with Kali, a lot of important subjects were raised.
They all seem to me to point towards individual awareness and the local ability to be in charge of our resources.
And perhaps even the word resources is one we should examine.
If we truly want to have a symbiotic relationship with this planet and the Lord our God.
Hey, but that's just what I think.
Let me know what you think in the comments and the chat.
Hope you enjoyed.
Kali, do go and get his book.
Thanks for being an awakened wonder.
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Today, we were meditating on just letting go.
Letting go of absolutely everything.
A meditation that was suggested by Ashela, a beloved member of our community.
Roxanne in the Rumble chat, I love you.
Froggy Croaked, I love you.
Revenue Peel, with your odd post, Freemasons have feelings, you are loved also.
You are all adored.
Thank you very much for joining me.
See you tomorrow, not for more of the same, we'd never insult you with that, but for more of the different.
