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You Awakening Wonders, thanks for joining me for Stay Free with Russell Brandt today.
It's an important interview with George Galloway that we are bringing with you.
If you're watching us on YouTube, we'll be available there for the first 15 minutes, but then we will be exclusively available on that sweet stream of freedom that we call Rumble, because this is a critical moment, not only in British politics, but In the fight against the globalist establishment in your country and in our country.
For the first 15 minutes, we'll be talking to George Galloway here on YouTube about the war, about the Uniparty, about our slide towards techno-feudalism and about what we can do to oppose it.
Can parliamentary or congressional politics ever become a tool for its own demise and destruction?
And what kind of radical figures will we have to support?
What kind of new alliances will we have to make?
What kind of global position will we have to take on subjects as wide and varied as war and commerce and migration if we are to stop this descent into new techno-tyranny?
And who better to talk to you about that than our guest today, the great George Galloway, a man who has once again taken Parliament by the scruff of the neck, has bruised little Rishi Sunak and given him a new nickname in the process, the Member of Parliament for Rochdale, George Galloway.
Thanks for coming on.
Stay free today.
Welcome.
Always a pleasure.
Privileged to talk with you in a brilliant jacket, by the way.
Excellent.
I thank you so much for spontaneously noticing that jacket, George.
Now, what people say about you, even within the legacy media, is that you are a street-fighting politician who knows how to win elections.
There is some division because you have come to prominence, of course, on a powerful mandate against the ongoing Massacre or genocide is perhaps the term you would use to describe the thousands and thousands of deaths that are taking place in Gaza right now to a degree supported by arms provided from the United States of America and certainly not opposed or shut down by either our country or by the United States of America.
I wonder given that overnight images have been released of drone strikes within Gaza that appear to be striking Civilians, how you feel about that ongoing conflict, what your victory as a member of parliament for Rochdale signifies about domestic populations views regarding this conflict and others in the UK and the United States of America.
Well, my blood runs alternately boiling hot and chilled cold because I've seen so much now.
I've never seen so much in my whole life.
Wholesale slaughter of the innocents for the most part.
72% of all the dead and mutilated people in Gaza were women or children, mothers and their children very often.
It is unconscionable that this has been allowed to go on for so long.
It would not have been allowed to go on for so long were the attack dog in question not been the Permanently attached tack dog of the United States and of Great Britain.
We invented the State of Israel.
We promised it to a small group, actually, of English Jews at the time of the Balfour Declaration.
We promised them The land which belonged to a third people, namely the Palestinian people.
And then we descended down this bloody staircase to the hell that we're watching today.
And so sometimes I'm boiling mad, sometimes tears are running down my cheeks, sometimes my heart feels numb.
at the sheer scale and nature of the slaughter. And they say that I ran my by-election on Gaza. Well,
if I did, then Gaza won. And the political class needs to take heed of it. Because I didn't just
win, Russell, I beat the Tories, Labour, Liberal Democrat, and Reform all together.
I got more votes than all of them put together.
That is a landslide.
And if a landslide was achieved in a kind of referendum on Gaza, then Gaza won.
So what are the governing parties going to do about it?
There are some signs of movement in the United States and in the UK, but the slaughter continues.
The starvation continues.
The four horsemen of the apocalypse are galloping across Gaza.
War, famine, pestilence, and disease are now everywhere, and of course it will not be contained in this tiny piece of land when disease, famine, and all the attendant Conditions that come with it begin to spread, they'll spread into Israel first and foremost, and given a very large number of Israelis are dual national,
Of the US, of the UK, and so on.
God knows what diseases are going to be traveling around the world as a direct result of the policy of siege and sanction and slaughter that we've got going on in Gaza.
But of course, the truth is, and you know this, I didn't actually only fight the election on Gaza.
I fought it on the Uni Party, the two cheeks of the same backside And all their failures, all their disappointments, all their betrayals of British people as a whole, of all kinds, colours and creeds.
The Uniparty is, I suppose, the greatest threat that we all face, whether it's in our country here in the UK or in the United States of America.
And indeed, your success in this election and the astonishing triumph that Bobby Kennedy is demonstrating across polls in America now shows that there has long been an appetite for meaningful candidates.
Even though, even in offering these two examples of success, we are confronted with the Significance and complication of the issue that we're talking about now.
Media spaces have been divided by this war.
We, I know, when we've spoken before George, how you deplore all forms of racism and surely anti-semitism is a form of racism.
And this issue is continually used to create division.
It's created division in an emergent peripheral anti-establishment right-wing movement that was growing in America, mostly in the kind of media spaces that you and I are now familiar with.
Commentators like Stephen Crowder and Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson.
We've just heard that Candice Owens has left The Daily Wire.
No doubt because, in part because of the stance she's taken on this particular war, And the perspective that the Daily Wire and its affiliation with the faith of Judaism and the nation of Israel, understandable given the founders, has caused rifts and division in a space that was starting to coalesce around anti-establishmentism.
Also on the left, George, what I find fascinating Is that many groups and individuals that were unwilling to talk up on the matter of censorship and media control are starting to notice that when it comes to the subject of Palestine, and in particular this conflict, there is a great deal of censorship.
With many people arguing that part of the reason that the US government wants to bring down TikTok is because it's a place where reporting on Gaza has been accurate and revealing.
So, this conflict is very, very unique and shows us the nature of the challenge we now face.
Because if there is to be success against the Uniparty, it seems to me that communities that are directly opposed on important issues are going to have to find common ground if we're going to make a dent in the significant power of that party.
Do you see alliances as being a possibility, George?
And are you looking to make those kind of alliances?
Well, first of all, free speech has to be that common ground.
I have to be able to speak my truth on Israel-Palestine, and Shapiro has to be able to speak his.
I can't close him down.
He can't close me down.
If we get into the business in the anti-establishment periphery that you talk about of actually turning on each other's right to speak, Then we have no chance whatsoever of dealing the Uni Party, the globalists, the real deep-seated problem that we have, with no chance of turning them over, no chance of replacing them.
So free speech has to be the common ground.
I happen to believe that even in the last 48 hours there's reason to believe that some elements of the right of that anti-establishment periphery Are coming around to my point of view on Israel-Palestine.
Alex Jones, for example, is now to the left of Joe Biden.
Tucker Carlson in the last 24 hours.
Candace Owens in the last two or three, four weeks.
These are people that are not of the left.
But they are people who were a part of our periphery who are now beginning to challenge what was the prevailing orthodoxy on the right on this question.
And I'm very glad about that.
Especially people who said, America first.
You can't say America first if it's actually Israel first.
Because Israel might do things that are not in America's interests.
But if you have already given them a blank check, a green light, then they're going to go, and indeed Netanyahu today has said that whatever the Americans say, he's going to invade the tent city of Rafah with his army.
What could possibly go wrong?
There's only 1.7 million people living there in tents.
What could possibly go wrong?
But yes, alliances, If not electoral alliances, then an alliance that we must defend each other's right to speak freely is, I think, a precondition of progress.
But we are standing in hundreds of constituencies on May 2nd in the local council elections and then on what seems to be October 17th in the British general election.
We are prepared To negotiate with others, but it's far better to stand as an organized force than as an isolated independent, because unless you're really well known, I mean Russell Brand independent would be one thing, and we'd be fully behind you.
There are one or two others, but unless you're already a big established name, Standing as an independent doesn't quite do it because you've got no logo on the ballot paper.
How do people know which of the many independents on that ballot paper you are?
Far better to stand as an organized force.
So more and more people are choosing to stand under the workers' rubric and under our logo, the Roundup.
Red, white and blue.
Because we are patriotic, you see.
We say it's the globalists who are the traitors to Britain.
Not us.
We have nowhere else to go.
We're not people from anywhere.
We have no green card for California.
We're stuck here on this rain-soaked But beautiful and green island.
And so who could be more patriotic than we who are here and must remain here, have no alternatives but to remaining here.
So our red, white and blue roundel and cog is a symbol of what we stand for and where we stand.
I'm fascinated about the possibility that the Workers' Party could make a significant impact in the forthcoming election in our country.
2024 is a big election year in our country and in the United States of America and we are seeing the resurgence of revitalised anti-establishment politics both on the left And God knows that to oppose the Uniparty and this evident globalist plan to assert a techno-feudalist style system on us all, we need to find ways of working together.
I'm sure many of our viewers will know you, George, for your historic affiliation with socialism.
Many of our viewers will know that you're a working class man from a working class background A blue-collar man who believes in the empowerment of ordinary people, ordinary workers.
So perhaps it's not fair to say that important issue, though it is, that your victory in Rochdale was entirely based on the strong anti-war sentiment that many people feel.
And to give Tucker Carlson his due, as a matter of fact, I've always known him to be anti-war across the board.
A lot of, indeed, American nativists or American first pundits and political figures, while dismissed widely as racist, often seem to me to be nationalist in a somewhat 20th century sense, not the worst kind of National Socialism sense I'm keen to add, but just that they believe in the people of their nation.
And if nation is something that's real, surely there could be some kind of Bargain pact agreement that were there to be controls on migration, controls on the border, this must surely be accompanied by a strong anti-war commitment, not to intervene and intercede and disrupt those nations from which migrants tend to come.
And of course, I know that what's important to you, George, is that those nations are losing many of their best and brightest doctors, medics and professionals.
As well as the many economic migrants, refugees, however that you want to describe them.
Do you consider it to be interesting, George, the possibility that a non-imperialist, non-interventionist model, i.e.
an anti-globalist model, might mean don't get involved in wars, don't get involved in exploiting the resources of these countries, and therefore it seems more reasonable and practical to manage borders sensibly?
Because I know that people might be surprised to hear some of your views on migration.
Yeah, perfectly put.
That is the case.
Only a fool or an anarchist or a very, very rich man could possibly want open borders.
I'm the leader of the workers, so part of my job, a very important part of it, is to raise the price of labour.
The price of what?
And, of course, to do that I have to control the supply of labour, otherwise the price of work will plummet, the pressure on the public services.
Council housing, National Health Service, places, places in the schools, in the nurseries, and so on, will become broken.
It will become impossible for the people I represent, who are, of course, of all colors.
We are a multicolored, multicultural country, so there's nothing racist about it.
In fact, The free movement of labor that we had before Brexit was white labor from the European Union.
It had nothing to do with color or race.
It had to do with the supply of labor.
And with an endless supply of labor, you have a constantly falling price of labor.
Obviously, if I'm the trade union official negotiating with the factory owner and he tells me I've got 5,000 Bulgarians outside who are going to do the job cheaper than your members, I'm finished.
I could use another F word, but won't.
The reality is that this tendency of liberals And they are liberals actually, small l liberals.
To apply ists and isms as pejoratives to ordinary people merely standing up for their own interest is one of the reasons why leftism has such a bad name.
And I'm one of those who no longer wants to hear myself described as a leftist, because left has become synonymous with liberalism, with license, with open borders, with, you know, refugees welcome here, and so on.
All this is inimical to the interests of the working class of all colors who are already here.
Now, you are quite right to identify that one of the drivers of mass immigration, of flows of refugees, is the endless making of war on the poor countries of the Global South, whether it's Fool out hot war, or economic war, or overthrowing popular governments, replacing them with dictatorships like in Latin America, for example.
That's what's causing many of these refugee flows.
If you stop making war on them, give them a hand up to build their own economies and their own societies, invest a bit in them, The number of people who want to leave their country will be far fewer.
Look, I'm an example.
My grandparents came here as Irish refugees from hunger, from famine.
If there's no famine, my grandparents, great-grandparents, would never have wanted to leave Ireland.
Anyone who's been in Ireland, been in Scotland, knows the islands better.
So if you hadn't been driven out of Ireland, you wouldn't be here in the first place.
So what I am very interested in is a de facto alliance between the people like Tucker, who are American firstists, Who are nativists, if you like.
There's no reason for hostility between him and me.
I have no interest in the domestic politics of the United States of America.
I just don't want them to come here.
I don't want them to bomb here, or there, or elsewhere.
I don't want them interfering in other people's countries.
I take my hat off to Tucker Carlson.
I mean, you and I are both in the broadcasting game.
He is captain, my captain.
I take my hat off to him.
And I like some of the things that he says, dislike some of the other things that he says.
But I'm always listening, aren't you?
Absolutely I am, because I think these are exactly the kind of relationships that need to be explored.
Indeed, in a truly representative system, there would be freedom for a degree of true diversity, culturally and economically, not just within nations, but within regions, if decentralisation were part of the shared goal.
Full autonomy, maximum autonomy, maximum representation.
Now, we are going to leave YouTube now precisely because this channel does get subject to a degree of censorship that comes from unelected globalist bodies like the WHO.
It does prioritize legacy media outlets that will actively attack independent voices and anti-establishment voices Like George Galloway and like my voice.
Indeed though, there's several subjects I want to cover with you George, not least the subject of faith.
I believe you are a man of faith.
I'm exploring Christianity myself and I think people of the world who believe in spirituality have perhaps more in common With those of us that are those that are brutally materialist and rational to the point that everything ultimately becomes a matter of economics and power dynamics.
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I'm going to be asking George a variety of questions on a variety of extremely important topics.
One, I want to know about the election that George is going to be fighting.
How can it be considered democracy when you've got two globalists like Keir Starmer and Rishi Sunak, two friends of the WEF, who have more in common with one another than they do with any of us presenting themselves as opponents in an election?
And isn't it just the same in America?
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George, well it seems to me ludicrous that these two men and these two parties would be presented to the electorate as opposing alternatives.
Rishi Sunak with his ties to the WF via his wife and Infosys, her father's firm.
Due to his relationship with Moderna, which he was a hedge fund investor for, prior to Moderna's massive profits in the last few years, and Keir Starmer, who seems to care more for the WF than he does any of the nations within the United Kingdom, seem to me, and even when you've got figures, and this will mean more to British viewers than it will to Americans, figures like Owen Jones, real cheerleaders of the Labour movement, walking away because the Labour Party's principles have collapsed, what, what, What exactly is it that we have to form in this country to oppose them?
What does it mean when people walk away from the Labour Party like that?
And I wonder how that maps onto the politics of the United States also.
Well, you know, people like me, my father, I don't know about you, but I do know your father, we were raised on like mother's milk.
The idea that labour was the cause of the working people and that the Conservatives were the champions of free market capitalism.
None of these things, neither of these two things, is any longer true.
The Labour Party doesn't represent the workers and the Conservative Party It doesn't champion free markets.
They want rigged markets.
They want to close competitors.
They want to lock out.
People who would otherwise freely compete for business, for profit, in the economy.
So neither stands for anything that they used to stand for, and both stand for the same set of globalist liberal principles.
And I'm going to go further.
They're all Blairites now.
Tony Blair's legacy is that both the Conservatives and Labour are followers of his liberal globalist ideology, and it increasingly shows they are interchangeable.
You could switch the Labour frontbench over to the Tory frontbench, and vice versa, and I promise you, you would not notice the difference.
There's a nuance here, there's a fake argument there about the colour of the curtains in the Ministry of Paperclips in Whitehall, on or off the income tax, but it's all synthetic sound and fury.
And you can see it, now that I'm back in Parliament, see it up close and personal.
The fury across the dispatch boxes is replaced by back-clapping, mutual congratulations, much laughter as they laugh all the way to their own personal banks.
But they have bankrupted the idea of Britain, they have bankrupted Brexit of all meaning, We supported Brexit because we wanted Britain to be an independent country, free to make its own fiscal and economic policy, its own laws, control its own borders, free to pick its own friends and not allow other people to pick its enemies.
That's the Britain that we wanted post-Brexit.
You've just got to look for a moment to see the Britain we got instead.
We are locked into whatever the WEF, whatever the globalists have decided we must do, whether we're in the European Union or out of it.
So we are going to provide an alternative.
You asked earlier what it costs.
Luckily, in Britain, it doesn't cost much.
In a general election, Each candidate in each constituency is responsible, in our case, responsible for raising their own election expenses, but the cap is £12,000.
So, in American terms, that's next to nothing.
For £12,000, and most communities can raise £12,000 through crowdfunding, through passing the hat round, they can even borrow my hat to do so, Most people can do it, and in each constituency we'll have, for the price of £12,000, a fellow who's on a level playing field.
He's at the starting gate, right beside Labour, right beside the Conservatives.
And I believe we're going to give them a very good run for their money.
We will affect the outcome of hundreds of contests.
Hundreds!
And I believe that we'll score some spectacular victories.
Yes, I think that's a real possibility, George, and a terrifying one for the establishment.
Your victory in Rochdale, where you scored as many votes as the Conservatives, the Labour Party and the next contender combined, shows that there's a real appetite for independent politics and real opposition to the establishment systems.
So are you saying that with some significant funding, you could be running 100 or 200 candidates in seats that are not at all safe for Labour?
Let's have it right.
assumed that Keir Starmer is in the Ascender sea ready to assert another four years of
globalism on the people of Britain where nothing will meaningfully change for ordinary workers,
where the legacy media will continue to lie, where ordinary people will continue to be
bowed, where nothing will be done to protect our valued systems of healthcare, our social
systems, our transport, not to mention the meaning and connection of these people to
their land, our historic love for this great nation, a true agenda that we can all be bound
by together, a genuine pursuit on the world stage of something glorious together, an example
to our friends across the ocean of a real independent movement.
You think that we could make a real difference if we were to, for example, crowdfund a significant
number, say 100 or 200 worker party candidates so that the Labour Party would end up going
into an election even if they were to win, requiring a coalition or facing a minority
government or a hung parliament?
That must be terrifying for globalists like the WEF-affiliated Keir Starmer, a man who's abandoned Labour's principles on day one, a man who, as I recall, and you'll correct me if I'm wrong here, George, When there were those riots in London and across our country, wasn't he high up in the legal system ensuring there were courts running round the clock so poor people could be processed a lot quicker than any 2008 corrupt economy collapsing banker ever might be?
So this is a chance to really stick it to these globalists, whatever colours they masquerade under.
Yeah, that's our aim.
It is to create a hung parliament.
To reduce Starmer's majority as far as possible and, if possible, make him dependent upon people like me to get any business through the Parliament at all.
Our price would be a simple one.
It would be for the introduction of proportional representation.
We have people enjoying huge parliamentary majorities whilst only polling a relatively small minority of the votes.
You can have 30% of the votes, not the voters, if you include the people who don't vote at all.
There are people forming governments in this country with 20% of the voters, but they get 50, 60, 70% of the seats because we have this first-past-the-post voting system.
If we had a voting system like they have in many countries on the mainland of Europe, the Workers' Party would already have 40 or 50 members of Parliament.
So we want big change in this country, big change in the political system.
Big change in the constitutional system.
I don't know where you stand on the royals.
Maybe you're hoping for a knighthood one day.
So I've given up hope of that.
Let me be blunt.
We have an unelected head of state Who'll be succeeded by someone whose only qualification is that they were the first born male to the unelected head of state.
We have an unelected Prime Minister whose own members of Parliament didn't even vote for him.
And we have an unelected Foreign Secretary, David Cameron, who's come back from the dead But couldn't get elected to Parliament, so they put him in the unelected House of Lords.
So our Constitution is a monstrosity.
The American Constitution is a state of perfection compared to ours, for all of its faults.
You've got in America the First Amendment.
We have no First Amendment.
If the Speaker of the House of Commons Decides, he might decide, I've made two powerful speeches this week, look them up.
If he decides, actually Galloway's spoken enough, he's getting too many supporters out of these speeches, I'm never going to call him to speak again.
I will never speak again in Parliament.
It's up to him if I catch his eye or I don't catch his eye.
If the feudal big tech companies say Galloway's show is getting too big, the mother of all talk shows.
3.9 million views last week alone.
We're going to close him down.
Like other people, including you, have been closed down, harassed, algorithmically strangled.
These feudal lords can do that.
And so we have to box very clever.
And we have to create our own platforms, have to create and defend our own spaces.
That's why we need the alliance I was talking about earlier.
We've got to make sure that if they ban us, they've got to ban Tucker Carlson also.
And that makes us twice as strong.
If we have these kind of alliances.
Yeah I think they're absolutely vital and on the subject of techno feudalism and its already existent sensorial practices we've made a number of Freedom of Information Act requests that we've now received significant data as a result of We'll be reporting on that extensively in the coming weeks that shows the scale of the monitoring and spying by the state, by state departments, and the amount of de-amplication and crushing of dissent that their private proxies have been practicing.
This is an outrage, and clearly with laws being passed in Canada, with the attempt to pass those hate speech laws in Ireland, and with our own online safety bill being passed, there's an attempt now to control the genie that's already out of the bottle.
It's become plain that peripheral voices are now able to reach a large number of people.
It's become evident that the old categories are collapsing, as you just described.
And this is, of course, not unique to our country.
This is a truly global phenomena.
In a few years ago, George, I don't think you would have got the rise of a character like Bobby Kennedy, who even two, three, four years ago was regarded as a crackpot on the subject of vaccines, and if you've read anything that he's written on that subject, he knows a great deal, and his research is extraordinary, and who is advocating for a different type of America.
Now, I'm sure, and I know right off the top of my head, that there'll be subjects on which you would vehemently disagree with Bobby Kennedy, but what we're trying to create here Our civil spaces.
I know a large number of our audience love Donald Trump.
That Donald Trump is the berserker, the bull in the china shop, the anti-establishment figure, the drainer of the swamp, the slayer of that professional class of politicians like Hillary Clinton who they detest.
Our audiences detest Those politicians that claim they're going to go into a country like Haiti and help, but ultimately end up exploiting, who put the country of Haiti into the condition it was in by imposing, or in this case, breaking tariffs that were there to protect Haiti's native agriculture.
We are united, regardless of the hue or pedigree of our political affiliations or liveries, by a strong anti-globalist message.
I wonder, George, what you think about the global agricultural movement right now in Germany?
In the Netherlands, in Sri Lanka, in India.
Yet another example how top-down edicts are being used to cripple ordinary working people and in particular our ability to create communities, to grow our own food, to trade independently, to run our communities without the intervention, intercession and control of unelected bodies like those that would impose these regulations, of course on the basis of climate change in this instance, on Ordinary farmers.
I wonder what your views are on that, George.
Well, no farmers, no food.
And I'll be on Parliament Square on Monday meeting the British farmers who've joined that.
Worldwide movement.
And we have to defend our ability to grow our own food.
The idea that we can close down our farms under the bogus climate change apocalyptic Catastrophism of the so-called climate change extinction rebellion and so on is perfectly absurd.
What we're going to do?
Eat insects?
Eat bugs?
Some of us will never do that.
Some of us are unreconstructed red meat eating white straight males.
I'll get my coat.
I know I'm no longer wanted.
The idea that the climate is affected more by cows farting in the field next to where I live than the devastating wars that are taking place.
The explosion of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline releasing into the atmosphere the world's greatest ever Methane leakage, the spilling of oil in tankers in the Red Sea because the big companies and countries would not reach an agreement with the people of Yemen for passage across their waterways and so on.
These are all, each and every one of them.
more significant contributors to climate change than our farmers are.
And frankly, life wouldn't be worth living for me if I could not eat the natural food produced by the farmers in my own land.
And I intend to continue to be able to do so.
Sometimes it seems that the way of life of ordinary people is under attack.
The recent rejection of the attempt to change the language in the Irish constitution shows how hopelessly out of touch the globalist elite class are with the people that they govern.
I wonder, George, how you feel about the legacy media's ongoing willingness to amplify and normalize
the agenda of globalists that clearly don't represent the interests of working people to obfuscate their failings
and even their cruelty while continuing to trumpet and implore obedience and compliance to their agenda.
You mentioned Tony Blair a moment ago, and I feel like in a sense, it is indeed his legacy
within which we live.
A man who took this country to war on false pretenses, a man who masked, in fact, the nefarious intentions
of then hawkish Republicans who are now the party that is certainly, if not in that region,
but certainly with the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, more likely to advocate for peace.
Like the Blair, in a sense, is a figure that we all have to live with.
The phantom of this somewhat charismatic, yet slick.
individual who represents the kind of egocentric, detached politics that's come to define an
age. I wonder, George, do you feel that there can be some connection between people that
revere tradition, that revere God, that revere community and family, and respect for new
civil rights movements?
Is that opposition and fissure irresoluble?
Or do you think that there too there is the possibility for alliance when it comes to traditional communities, Christian communities, Muslim communities?
Is it possible for there to be alliances there too that can oppose this kind of globalism that only has amplified and berserk wokeism as its only badge?
I like that phrase, berserk wokeism, because that's exactly what we are facing here.
Nobody wants to interfere in other people's lives.
They don't want to see discrimination, bigotry, hatred, hate crimes even less, against people because of their sexual orientation or whatever, and they don't want The behaviour of minorities criminalised at all.
I was a champion.
I got a Stonewall Award in the 1990s in the British Parliament for my, quite lonely at that time, it was before it was really hip, my quite lonely stand in favour of equality between gay people and straight people, for example.
So, I'm untouchable in terms of—many of my staff, friends, are gay, and always have been in 37 years in public life.
I have had such gay people close to me, oftentimes even living in my house.
So, I'm untouchable as a bigot on this.
But I don't want my children To be prematurely sexualized in any case.
I have young children, as you do yourself.
My youngest child is three.
I have five children in the school system.
I don't want them taught about sex prematurely, and I don't want them taught About sexual preference and orientation and the trans agenda and so on.
I want to do that.
They're my children, not the school's children.
They're not the state's children.
I want to educate my children on these personal and social matters According to the ethos in which I believe.
I am a Roman Catholic, and that is where I stand.
It's the faith of my fathers.
I will never leave it, and I want to be able to bring up my children With these ethics at the forefront of their personal and social education.
I don't trust it to a here-today-gone-tomorrow school teacher working for a liberal politician who's also here-today-gone-tomorrow, rootless, maybe faithless, almost certainly faithless.
So these are Issues, if you like, in which I, an otherwise radical individual, can be credibly described as, small c, conservative on these social matters.
I'm against many of the things that liberals insist upon for themselves, and my view is, do it.
Go ahead, Enjoy it, if that's what you call enjoyment, but don't frighten the horses, and don't do it in front of my children.
When I first went to the United States, once it became clear that I was no longer a denizen
of the mainstream, this is prior to the accusations and attacks that I would attribute to conspiracy,
no, I wouldn't use the word conspiracy, collaboration, evident and demonstrable collaboration
between legacy media, online groups that can dismantle or amplify dissent according to their will,
and state departments, which I'll talk about in more detail another time, it became clear to me
that figures of the right, as they are described, whether it's Tucker Carlson or indeed Ben Shapiro,
with whom, of course, it would be possible to find various areas to strongly disagree,
we've obviously spent some time discussing about the differences on the subject of war
between a man like yourself and Ben Shapiro.
What surprised me and interested me, particularly if they were speaking in good faith,
I know that I was, was a willingness to look for ways of forming a.
Alliances and coalitions with people that had different cultural perspectives.
In fact, the example I used with Ben Shapiro is, would you be willing to stand on a platform with supporters of Black Lives Matter or trans movements in order for you to be able to run your own community and your own schools and religious life according to your own principles?
If it meant that, similarly, you would not intervene or interfere with the lives of communities that chose to do things entirely differently.
Increasingly, it seems, as you have said, that in the United States of America, hot-button cultural issues are used to continually divide people.
And when I see sometimes in our chat people using speech around Islam or Judaism or Christianity or sexuality, I tell them, you are doing the establishment's work for them.
By opposing one another on these issues, you prevent us from unifying in the way that we must have to.
Unified, but decentralized against the true monolithic power that opposes us all.
I, like you, believe that I don't want the state involved in how I raise my children.
I don't want the state involved in any aspect of my life, as a matter of fact.
But as a person of the left, how are we of what was once known as the left, excuse me, How would you suggest that we might oppose the evident globalist forces that are made up of a kind of corporate contract between the state and, as you say, rootless economic interests.
I'm speaking of large corporations that The big tech giants, the energy giants, those that would seek to control absolutely agriculture.
How do we, George, and what is going to be the role of congressional politics or parliamentary politics or conventional mainstream politics in delivering to us a new politics where we can oppose the true problem, this centralised power?
What do you see the route as being?
For you, I suppose it's to stand candidates in October in this country.
Are you going to stand someone for Mayor of London?
But how do we make sense of it on a global scale?
Because it seems it's mostly, whilst it's global, it's emanating from America.
And who is going to oppose it?
I'm afraid it is emanating from America, and I'm so old I saw it happening.
I saw what I call the Californication of the British political system, the prevailing culture.
I'm a member of the Groucho Club, I think maybe you are.
I saw the Groucho Club transform, be Californicated.
Journalists, the media, the wider class, policy class, the politocracy that govern us, that set the boundaries, parameters of the prevailing authority, I saw it all become californicated.
And I think we've all lost out as a result.
No harm to California.
I wish I was there right now.
It's pouring rain outside in Rochdale, and I'm sure there are wonderful people there.
This liberal prevailing orthodoxy has brought us all low.
It's even brought California low, if you ask me.
We insist in the Workers' Party that we all have identities.
Some are Catholic, some are Protestant, some are atheist.
Some support United, some support City, Celtic, Rangers.
Some are gay, some are straight, some are black, some are white, some are ginger.
We all have multiple identities, but the one overarching identity that we have is that we are all dependent on selling our labor in order to live.
If we had no wages at the end of the week, no salary at the end of the month, if that happened two months in a row, We'd be in the poorhouse if they still had poorhouses.
We'd be in the workhouse if they still had workhouses.
So that's our main identity.
Our main identity is that we have to sell our work in order to live and feed and bring up our families.
If we can unite everyone who's in that boat, We're uniting the vast majority of people in the country.
Our second main identity is that we're here.
We've got nowhere else to go.
We have no imagined or mythologized country or time to which we can transport all of ourselves.
We must make the best of where we are and when we are.
And we must do it having united people under the banner of our fundamental identity.
And live with each other's football preferences, sexual preferences, colours and religions and creeds.
Just tolerate each other.
That fellow's fasting now, this one is not.
He prays facing that way, he prays facing that way.
We can live with all these things.
We're humans, after all, for God's sake.
George, I've got a few quick questions about globalism that you're going to love, that I'd love to get your perspective on.
Do we need NATO anymore?
In 2024, what will NATO do for us?
You know, I spoke in Parliament on this yesterday, and they were all shifting very uncomfortably indeed, because I was busting their bubble.
And now they know that what was once confined to the Parliament Channel, watched by a few thousand geeks, is now on all of our social media platforms and getting millions of views of my speech and their uncomfortableness.
And I made the point, I said, Donald Trump's coming, you know.
He's coming in November.
And he doesn't much like your NATO.
That you have all spent your entire careers burrowing around in.
And Donald Trump has made clear that your war in Ukraine will end on day one of a Trump presidency.
There'll be not one more dollar, not one more bomb or bullet.
Going to the Zelensky regime.
When I said Zelensky regime, the whole house transformed.
Their faces assumed grotesque grimaces.
I mean, I wish someone could have painted it.
As my good wife said, I wish the wind had come in and frozen their faces like that in all their ugliness.
I mean, they were baying, baying at me when I was telling them that Donald Trump doesn't like your NATO.
Donald Trump's going to end your Ukraine war.
Donald Trump thinks the Zelensky regime are crooks that have embezzled.
Billions from the American taxpayer.
Oh, Russell, you should have been there.
You're too young to have read The Iron Heel by Jack London, but I commend it to you.
And In The Iron Heel by Jack London, there's a scene when the hero, Ernest Everard is his name, confronts the local Chamber of Commerce with all the crimes they've committed against the workers and their widows in the town.
And he describes how their faces all began to contort and their being rise and rise.
That's what it was like in Parliament yesterday when I confronted with these people with the
ineluctable fact that unless they stop him with extreme prejudice, President Trump will
be back in November.
How about that then?
Yeah, that's pretty extraordinary to hear your beautiful description of that, and it shows that in a sense what we have is a religion in all but name, that the belief in the war between Ukraine and Russia can't be subject to any real scrutiny, that people don't want to confront the origins of that conflict, and The CIA's intervention and provocation, the fact that Zelensky's doing deals with Black Rock for any eventual post-war scenario, neither is it often talked about that the media has been centralised in Ukraine and there's been no democracy or certainly no elections there.
for a significant period of time has become a religious belief and this peculiar and literally Orwellian ability to transform meaning is happening before our very eyes almost continually.
I wonder what you think of this new extremism bill in our country where extremism is being redefined.
I think somewhat with you in mind George and certainly With the ability to curtail and stop any populist movements coalescing.
It was very diffuse.
I saw some language in the bill which Keir Starmer and Rishi Sunak, both of those globalists agreed must be passed, saying if it was against the British way of life.
Excuse me, it could be regarded, any speech that was against the British way of life could be regarded as hate speech.
What do you think about that bill in particular?
Do you think it's targeted at you?
And what do you think about the way that language is being changed?
Vague hate speech laws, vague censorship being imposed, true information, which is mal-information, being censored if it's not convenient to the agenda of the powerful.
Did you ever think you'd witness something like this happening in Western democracies within your parliamentary career?
I really didn't and you know I was first elected to Parliament 37 years ago and if someone had said to me 37 years ago that the day would come when in Scotland the hate bill comes into operation on April Fool's Day, I mean they're laughing at us.
On April Fool's Day, if I say to you some of the things that I have already said to you down this camera, but even if it was around my own dinner table, you know the Englishman's home used to be his castle, now you can be charged for saying something in private in your own home that the Authorities, the globalized elite, have decided, constitute hate-speak.
And it doesn't even have to be things that most of us would consider to be hate-speak.
You know, I hate this kind of person.
I would like to shoot that kind of person.
No, that's the number one donor to the British government that said that about my colleague Diane Abbott.
Who said that she made him hate all black women and that she should be shot.
I'm not talking about that kind of hate speech.
I'm talking about this kind of hate speech.
That a man cannot become a woman merely by declaring himself to be so.
That's hate speech.
I can be charged with it.
Whether I'm in my own home, whether I'm talking to Russell Brand on international television, or if I'm saying it in any other country in the world.
I don't even have to be in Scotland to be charged with it in Scotland.
If I turn up in Scotland, which I must do from time to time, I can be arrested for having said it in California.
This is a kind of madness.
It will either mean we have to have a million police officers doing nothing else with their time but arresting people for hate speech, a million new courts trying people on extremism charges defined by a group of people that most of us would believe are pretty extreme themselves, the pot calling the kettle black, That's probably another example of hate speech I've just uttered.
I don't know.
My lawyer's not here.
The only antidote to all of this, Russell, is free speech.
It's the only way it can work.
Otherwise, who guards the guards?
Who decides who is extreme?
Who decides what is malinformation, disinformation, misinformation, or merely official information?
The only antidote to this is free speech.
Let a thousand flowers bloom.
A hundred schools of thought contend.
Let the people pick the flower they like the best.
Extraordinary the assumption of paternalism that the government espouses and imposes in seeking to censor the information that we might access, that we as sovereign adults may determine for ourselves.
Our medical choices, our cultural choices, our religious choices.
I couldn't obviously agree with you more.
Obviously the movement you came up in was defined in a sense as a response to mass industrialization and the necessity for workers to be able to impose oppose the potential tyranny that people that controlled industry may exploit.
Now that we live in an age where globalism controls the workforce. I wonder what you think
of examples of corporations such as Amazon. Perhaps Amazon is the easiest
symbol for us to attack. Where in places like Tilbury, Furrock, where I'm
from, there are mass PAC centers, where there are workers movements, I find it
hard to get off the ground. And for all of the discourse that you've described,
much of which is built around compassion, wokeism ultimately comes from ideas that
are meant to be about compassion towards vulnerable people, minority people.
When it comes to the hard line of the rights of people to earn a living that
you spoke about earlier, this is where the compassion seems to sharply run
out.
Is there a possibility for some kind of movement of workers built around these truly global monoliths that require labor on an international level?
Even when they have, you know, distribution factories in countries like ours, distribution centers rather, in countries like ours.
Do you see that there's a way to organize on that basis?
Or do you think that the way that The working people, ordinary Americans, ordinary British people, perhaps ordinary people around the world, have to organize other than their role in the workplace, or as you said earlier, do you still see that as a defining aspect of all human life?
No, of course the workplace has changed.
In my old constituency in Glasgow, there was once a factory, Parkhead Forge, which employed 30,000 people inside that factory, and every one of them had a union card in their pocket, and they had political education coursing through the workplace and the workforce.
All of that has changed, so we have to change also.
But every A person who works for these big monoliths needs to join a union.
It's kind of not rocket science that you'll have more power collectively vis-a-vis your employer than you will individually.
But even that will not be enough.
I think that we are all in these multiple identities that we have.
One of the identities we all have is consumers.
Now, I'm here to tell you that Starbucks It is on the floor.
McDonald's is on the floor because of mass boycotts.
I travel a lot, as do you.
I've been in several countries recently where there's nobody in McDonald's at all.
I mean, zero.
Starbucks has changed its name in Ireland.
Such is the power of consumer boycott.
So, The workers who work in these monoliths need to organize for themselves.
If the employer resists it, all the rest of it must boycott it.
In support of them, we need to define the real enemy.
The real enemy is exploitation, one or the other.
Exploitation of the earth.
The division of the peoples of the world into not just competing but warring factions.
This is where my religion and my politics merge, because I believe that all of us are God's children, that none of us are exceptional, that none of us are God's chosen people, that we are all God's chosen people.
Then we need to make a world that is fair and equitable.
It won't happen overnight.
But it's another of the reasons why I oppose mass immigration, to which you alluded earlier.
The people of Bangladesh shouldn't have to leave Bangladesh.
Bangladesh should be such a beautiful and harmonious and prosperous place.
That we might be lucky to move to Bangladesh.
That's the world I'm fighting for.
And I ask everyone to join that fight.
I have one final question, George, that I think will be interesting to you.
We've spent a lot of time in the early part of our conversation talking about how particularly fractious, historic, religious and potent the conflict in Gaza is.
How it's defined politics for more than a generation, it's defined politics for millennia.
That it reaches into culture, that it reaches into economics and ideologies.
Even in new emergent spaces where there were extraordinary affiliations starting to form.
In particular, I mean, what is known, somewhat glibly perhaps, as the alt-right.
You had figures like Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens forming alliances.
Now, Candace Owens has just left the Daily Wire, presumably because of differences around this conflict.
I want to tie this to a question sort of that connects to our culture.
I remember when I first heard of Tommy Robinson who sort of come up through football culture in Luton, a town in our country with a large Muslim population.
I remember thinking if you could ever find a way of making the Muslim population and the white working class population of Luton come together and recognise who they were truly opposed to, you would have a movement indeed.
With these new media spaces that we participate in, George, becoming increasingly and necessarily politicised, I note with interest that you are avid online because it's presumably a way of reaching your electorate, presumably a way of growing it, presumably a way of ensuring massive success on October the 17th when you oppose the globalists from all across our parliament.
I wonder what it means when Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens, on the subject of this war in particular, can't find a way of allowing each other free speech, of coming together in unity.
What does it tell us?
Is there something unique about this conflict?
It's become divisive in places where there was at least a burgeoning sense of potential unity and real opposition.
Yeah, it ought not to have been a deal-breaker on the issue of free speech.
Candace and Ben Shapiro have quite similar views on a lot of things and ought to have been able to live with their difference on this subject.
As I said earlier, Tucker Carlson, Alec Jones and Candace Owen are all moving In the direction towards my position, and I find that very interesting and very significant, and actually inevitable.
I honestly can't understand how anyone can look at the pictures and videos that I'm looking at, and they are presumably looking at, and come to any other conclusion, unless you believe in exceptionalism, you see.
Unless you believe that some of us are more exceptional than others.
Some of us are chosen and therefore some of us, by definition, are not.
If you believe that, then you'll believe anything.
And if you believe that, you'll believe that the inferior will have to bow down to the superior, the unexceptional bowing down to the exceptional.
And I'm religiously forbidden to believe in such things, as well as politically disinclined to do so.
So I don't think it's the issue itself.
It's the issue of exceptionalism, and that's what we have to dish.
It's the one thing that will always divide the likes of Robinson with me.
It's the one thing that will always divide a fascist with me.
Because a fascist, a Robinsonist, believes that they are exceptional, that the people they support are chosen somehow.
If you believe that we're all God's children, if you believe that we're all the sons of Adam, Then you cannot believe in exceptionalism or chosenness or ideas of superiority.
And I'm very glad that I was born and grew up in an atmosphere that would never have tolerated any such ideas on my part.
George, I knew it would be a rollercoaster ride to converse with you.
I knew that I would learn new things about the Labour movement, the way that conventional and traditional politics can start to coalesce with new and emergent political forces beyond the categories that increasingly seem to be less and less useful.
I didn't realise that we would talk so much about faith, about the significance and importance of the role of Christ, but how that Does not facilitate exceptionalism in the true believer, George.
And also we've had that whole conversation without mentioning our previous time knowing one another on a reality-based show decades and decades ago.
We've moved into a different reality indeed, George Galloway.
God bless you.
Russell, more power to your elbow.
You too, sir.
Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to supporting you going forward.
Thank you, George Galloway.
Thank you.
Well, let me know what you thought of that conversation with George Galloway.
Did it inspire in you the hope that people from across the political and cultural spectrum, even internationally, can come together to demand more localised democracy, less
globalism, more representation and even use existing political systems to oppose globalist
establishment power.
Is it going to be necessary for us to look at our hardest felt and longed for prejudices
and how we can overcome them in order to form a new movement that is powerful and able to attack
a potent serpent that is coiled around the globe even now?
Surely, we have to recognize that we are on the precipice of something important and seismic.
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