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He's the host, of course, of the Charlie Kirk podcast and national radio show, founder and CEO of Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action.
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Hello, Charlie.
Thank you so much for joining us today.
Honored to be here, Russell.
Thank you.
This is yet another one of those unthinkable conversations that once would have easily occurred within legacy media spaces, but now it's left us in independent media.
People who it would have been assumed that five or ten years ago are living in entirely different cultural spaces and political spaces, now finding more and more common ground, I suppose generally, with our opposition to the establishment.
Do you think that's a fair assessment, Charlie?
And if so, what do you think's happened?
Yeah, I think there's a realignment.
I think there's a spiritual realignment, a philosophical one, a political one, and we see it where the people that love the truth are starting to become friends and build partnerships and do things together and go on each other's shows and say things that are similar.
And we might have different politics, we might have different approaches on certain issues, but there is this idea that you're either part of the regime, which is this kind of Western government collusion that's going to keep the failed project of neoliberalism going, through brute force. And then there's just kind of this
group.
I think the majority of people that are seeking the truth that
love the truth. You could call it seeking enlightenment.
I don't love that term, but they we want to try to get answers
and a restoration of the form and the structure of government
that we once enjoyed.
We might not have enjoyed it totally in our lifetime, but we know it's possible.
And so we want, we want to reset and not the great reset.
We want to reset around the promises of kind of Western constitutional order, where the people are the sovereign, where we have the rule of law checks and balances, where our leaders don't just, they're not able to lie with us with total impunity.
And so I think it's really exciting.
I mean, I'm talking to people that five years ago we would have considered on the other side of the aisle, and we see things far more similarly than we ever have.
Yeah, it's curious.
It's been a fascinating and intriguing odyssey for me, which I know that many of the people that have always existed in, shall we call it, the conservative, libertarian, Christian spaces that I
imagine you are more native to, always regarded as a kind of red-pilling. For me, "Oh, Russell
Brand, red-pilled by this," you know, they say. But I feel that I've always been pretty vehemently
anti-establishment. I've always been very pro-individual sovereignty. I've always been anti-corruption.
But I suppose culturally, I was, for example, moving through Hollywood, being in
movies, participating in the world that is governed by the kind of metropolitan media values. And
of course, as you perhaps are aware, I'm a recovering addict. So certainly when it comes to hedonism
and the kind of ideas you might associate with that, I've certainly lived in the kind of
spaces that are defined by that.
Charlie can we like first of all look at a couple of contemporary stories like this Boeing like we're talking about John Barnett's self death by his own hand or whatever you want to call it It's very convenient for Boeing that a man who consistently testified against their safety from a position of some experience and authority is now unable to testify further.
When you see a story like that, what's your assessment of it, Charlie?
Well, you can't help but think, is there foul play involved?
Again, I don't know.
I know none of the details.
I know nothing and I don't want to speculate beyond that, but you know, those of us that love the truth and those of us that are kind of combining forces, we see a pattern and I believe God made us in a way to recognize pattern and patterns and pattern recognition is important, which is when you see kind of unusual glitches in how things should operate. For example,
I mean, when you see whistleblowers at the origination of the spread of COVID just disappear in mainland China, and
we're just told, "Oh, no, it's just fine." You know, happens all the time that scientists just kind of just
disappear. Or when Epstein quote-unquote "killed himself"
in a prison cell. All the- and again, I don't know anything about this. It could just be that this guy was dealing with
mental health issues and the pressure was too much. I know nothing about the details there, but it smells. And
And by the way, the same thing with Mitch McConnell's sister-in-law that's connected to the Chinese Communist Party shipping company.
I don't know if you saw that story in Texas.
No.
I think something chow where she just, I suppose, got into her Tesla and went backwards into a lake.
And suspicious.
It's being investigated as a criminal matter in Texas.
Again, I don't know if foul play was involved there, but we're starting to see where I think people now have the courage to put one and one two and two together and say, Are there other clandestine subterranean forces that are trying to remove truth-tellers, whistleblowers, or threats to their current power structure?
And, or, do they just want to try to go back to this idea that, you know, dead men tell no lies, or dead men are not able to testify?
So, I don't know what to make of it, Russell, except for the fact that in the new normal, When I see a story like this, I immediately start to suspect foul play more than just the narrative that we're being fed.
And that is largely because we have been routinely manipulated by the mainstream apparatus, by the establishment, which is the term that I love that you used.
And again, it could be that the normal explanation is the normal explanation, but if anything, if there's any lesson out of the last four years, after 15 days, the soda spread, it's that there's almost always more to the story than what the establishment is telling us.
When there are paradoxes embedded even within that story, I wonder what we can learn from then.
I understand that you, my guess is that you're sort of a pretty pro-Trump person, and I know in the media space that I operate in, Trump is regarded just generally as a hero.
My own political allegiances lie more in the diversification and decentralization of power wherever possible in order that the sovereignty of the individual is regarded as sacred.
I mean that literally as well as in a way that is politically useful.
Uh, and so my support of anyone that claims from within this system, uh, that, uh, that they could make significant change is always, always tentative, but probably I'd be more pro Bobby Kennedy than Trump.
I'd love to know what our audience think.
I know that most of our audience are pretty pro Trump.
Uh, but when it comes to like, you've brought up the pandemic and what an incredible journey of learning it afforded all of us.
See how Trump maintains a degree of credit for the efficacy of warp speed while clearly caught in the many Americans that now are furious about what happened in the pandemic period who might loosely be corralled under the term anti-vax.
How do you see that contradiction playing out for Trump?
Taking credit for the success of the vaccine, so courting the support of anti-vaxxers?
Yeah, it's a very fair and important question, Russell.
So let me just state my opinion, and I was against the lockdowns, the masks very early, never took the mRNA gene altering shot, called the vaccine.
I think it was a huge mistake.
I believe we were lied to by Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson.
And so I see that that's my opinion.
I think, you know, the audience would largely agree with me on there.
And As far as with President Trump's record, I do want to just
make it clear, he never forced the vaccine.
He never was going to have any sort of punitive sort of measures. He also very early,
his instincts were right. And I wish he would have trusted his instincts more.
He was on hydroxychloroquine and how we can't lock down the country.
Unfortunately, he was almost enveloped and he was suffocated by the medical bureaucrats around him.
And so it was this kind of slow squeeze. It was the boa constrictor of the CDC and FDA here in
the States and the NHS would be the equivalent in your country. So the, I don't know,
As far as how President Trump navigates it, I did an entire podcast episode, Russell, a couple days ago where I cautioned President Trump as a friend and a supporter.
He has to be very careful politically taking credit for the vaccine because there are millions of people that are sympathetic towards Trump But the vaccine is a personal issue.
They lost their job.
They got kicked out of the military.
They had a loved one suddenly drop dead.
They know people with pericarditis and myocarditis and, you know, heart rate abnormalities or they have other issues associated with the forced vaccination.
Or even just that they were told a lie.
Hey, get one shot, so on and so forth.
So my advice for President Trump is to say, hey, my instincts were to go for early treatments and I was lied to by the pharmaceutical companies.
I think it is a perfect opportunity.
And President Trump is not a stranger to that kind of an argument.
Think about it.
How many times did he say that the FBI came after me?
You know, the intel agencies came after me.
It is a continuation of a narrative.
And I know you want to get in here.
Just last thing I'll say really quick is that If President Trump says that these pharmaceutical companies came into the White House and told me one thing and we saw another, and as president I will do a criminal investigation into the big four, Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, I think he could break out of this potential political problem, especially with RFK running, who is nipping at his bud right now in regards to the vaccine issue.
I'll tell you what, I'm excited about this conversation that you and I are having already because it's a legitimate conversation where I don't feel like I'm just trying to frame questions in order to establish a position but I am genuinely interested and in that spirit, if Trump I love your suggestion.
There should be an investigation into the activities of those companies rather than continually redacted documents and further support and further deals in our country.
AstraZeneca have just done a 650 million pound deal with the government to build more factories.
You know there's a revolving door between Pfizer and the FDA, Moderna and the FDA and comparable agencies in our country.
One question though.
If indeed Trump's defense for what happened in that rather unique and difficult period is to be that it was establishment mandarins and bureaucrats that strangled his authority.
How can he claim that in a second term he will be able to impose authority in a distinct and different way and Will he, if he were to say that he was going to, would he not risk further accusations that what he was planning to bring to America was a form of dictatorship which is precisely what his detractors on the neoliberal left are continually saying whilst I recognise and consider, just to let you know my position, I consider the biggest threat to our freedom to be the new
Strain of authoritarianism being all good under the auspices of neoliberalism.
That is the tyranny that we have to fear.
No question about it.
But how will Trump do things differently this time without playing into the hands of those who say he's going to slash bureaucracy and all that?
Yes, so two things.
Number one, you're right.
The new authoritarianism, though, looks different than just a czar, a Caesar, or a king.
The new authoritarianism is by committee.
It's by oligarchy.
It is by bureaucracy.
It is by the secret society of intelligentsia that sit around and they agree that, you know, the Fauci's, the Burke's, they are largely the faceless, nameless, unidentified power structure within the Leviathan.
So when people think of authoritarianism, they just think of Putin.
When the new authoritarianism rests within the credentialed class, the managerial revolution that we've lived through through the West.
I'm happy to explore that, but I just wanted to expound on that.
The second part though, is this is why my recommendation for President Trump is,
he should say that, "Hey, as president, I'm gonna put RFK
in charge of a committee, going after vaccine safety
and the vaccine adverse event reporting system, which we call VAERS in the States.
And personnel is policy."
And the best answer I have to that, Russell, is the way that he can try and calm the anxiety
and the nerves that some people have towards the kind of, let's just say,
deep state machinations of the bureaucracy.
The administrative state is another term that I like to use for these group of vultures
that run our country, is that I'm gonna have specific people
that will dedicate their life 24/7 to try to reign in the beast.
And so when it comes to the CDC or the FDA, First of all, politically, it'd be a huge winner, and I don't know what RFK would really do with that if President Trump came out and said, hey, I'm gonna make RFK in charge of the special committee.
For example, by the way, committees are not nothing.
I want you to think about it.
We had the Church and Pike Committee before.
There's been like 9-11 commissions.
And the 9-11 commission was largely flawed and, you know, not exactly great, but it had a lot of attention, a lot of funding.
There was the Warren Commission with the JFK assassination, which was a joke.
But at times, some of these commissions and some of these You actually learned something, the Church and Pike Committee being the best congressional example.
I think we need a retroactive looking back at the crimes committed during COVID with the same sort of urgency that we would if there was a domestic terror attack.
Like, oh wow, you know, how did these hijackers get in the country, you know?
Again, that was the spirit that triggered the 9-11 Commission.
Again, it was a very lackluster report and it was missing a lot of stuff.
However, the spirit that launched the investigation was a good one because people wanted answers.
Where is that now, Russell?
Why don't we get answers from these intel agencies?
Why don't we get answers from, did we know That Anthony Fauci was potentially on a take from these pharma companies.
So I'm not dodging the question.
I'm saying President Trump has a couple challenges facing his second term as politically and then actually from a policy perspective, if he becomes president, the first of which is he has to convince certain voters that the personnel will be different.
This is why my advice is name the names, the people that you're going to put in your government that have earned the trust.
And secondly, his first month in office.
I hope we see a lot of firings and a lot of A lot of turnover in the deep state administrative state.
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Let's get back to our conversation with Charlie Kirk.
Great.
When you do content, as I'm sure you must, on the degree of propaganda that was practiced upon us during that period around, in particular, the mandated, at your right to query their name, vaccines, for example, the talk show carnivals, the songs, the various attempts to Hit every demographic with an appropriate music artist or actor, the censorship, the inability to openly communicate, the loss of bodily autonomy.
When you look back at that content now, it's already eerie.
It's already identifiable as a practice that could only have been successful in a time of hysteria.
So it's plain something.
There was significant malpractice and your suggestion of a thorough investigation, although like you, I would hope for a better outcome than some of the, for example, the 9-11 committee.
It's important.
When you look back to the 2016 debates, as we just were, and see Clinton and Trump discussing the Clinton Foundation, and in particular the Clinton's relationship to the nation of Haiti.
It's pretty clear that the neoliberal project and its imperialist agenda
can easily be exposed as, as you say, authoritarian and corrupt.
I feel that if not in political rhetoric and in public discourse,
we didn't get a clear understanding of what new authoritarianism would look like.
We are unable to look beyond military-style dictatorships of the previous century.
But in literature, Charlie, if you look at the writing of Kafka, in particular, The Trial, you know, someone must have been telling lies about Joseph K, because one day they came and arrested him, and they didn't tell him what it was for.
No one would tell him what he'd done wrong, just that he was under arrest.
Or if you look at the writing of Aldous Huxley, the English writer, you can see that what people- Brave New World.
Precisely people are talking about a sort of a pristine and banalized form of authoritarianism where bureaucracies in order to protect you and induce a kind of slovenly state of happiness detached from any kind of spiritual imperative Would be the type of authoritarianism that we'd be confronted with.
One of the things though I would say is like sometimes I wonder, and I know you're a good person to ask this question, if the people that broadly support Trump, which is evidently a large, huge, potentially it looks likely an election winning demographic, are unwilling to hold him to account.
Perhaps in the area of vaccine we've looked at already, possibly in some moral and ethical areas, and maybe even some spiritual areas, and significantly perhaps in when it comes to economics.
After all, is Donald Trump not ultimately a free market capitalist Who ultimately wants to empower the interests of an elite class just of a slightly different distinction.
Do you really feel that Donald Trump is about the empowerment of blue-collar, ordinary Americans of all colors, making America great again for the majority of Americans?
So just there was quite a few points in there, Charlie, but...
Yeah, let me take him one at a time.
First of all, I love the Huxley reference, and I love it because he was able to paint a picture of dystopia that was centered around an entrance into almost a comatose pleasure-focused dictatorship.
You know, everybody belongs to everybody.
There's no idea of personal privacy.
Everyone takes a drug that makes you feel amazing.
It's called Soma in the book Brave New World.
And in fact, there are five writers, and you'll appreciate this, I think almost all of them, four out of five were British, that were all contemporaries.
C.S.
Lewis, Churchill, Orwell, Huxley, and Arthur Kessler, who I believe was Hungarian, who all wrote about totalitarianism and dictatorship differently.
And I encourage everyone to read that picture Because it's a constellation of five different approaches.
And they were dealing with this question though, Russell, and I will get to the Trump aspect.
I don't want to dodge that.
Which is, how does technology and tyranny work together?
That was the question that all five were wrestling with.
Which is fascinating.
Fascinating question.
Orwell and Huxley flirted with that more than anybody else.
I encourage everyone to read, though, Darkness at Noon by Arthur Kessler, which is exactly what Donald Trump is experiencing.
It was all about the Moscow show trials.
It was about what happens when you forgo due process.
It's brilliant.
They all lived in that late 1940s, 1950s and published some of the most important works that are instructed what we go today.
Everyone goes immediately Russell in 1984, but 1984 is just one piece of kind of the Let's say the genre of warning against the new totalitarianism of the 21st century.
Okay, so to Trump, to answer your question, yes.
Do I agree with everything that President Trump does?
Of course not.
But it is a fact though, Russell, that when he was president, we experienced a blue-collar boom.
That people that work at their hands, the muscular class, people that shower before work and after work saw the greatest increase in wages and in their income levels.
Were there times when he was doing too much for big corporations?
Maybe, but I will say I'm more free market than not.
We can have that discussion, Russell, where I do believe that one of the great Fruits of Western societies, the ability to trade and to have commerce and entrepreneurship with proper guardrails, and of course, a steadfast commitment to the rule of law equally applied to all people, regardless of socioeconomic status.
That is a bedrock principle of what we would call Western civilization, which comes out, of course, of Blackstone from your country.
Again, thank you for all the wonderful things that the United Kingdom has given the world.
But you know, Rule of law, due process, common custom, all one of these wonderful things.
But look, I will say this, that President Trump, the number one thing, Russell, that he would do to restore the American middle class is his stance on immigration.
Neil, the neoliberal project is based on three things, two of which can be easily said as invade the world, invite the world.
Invade the world, invite the world.
So President Trump, to his credit, no new wars.
He was winding down the Afghanistan conflict.
You know, he never would have allowed this Ukraine-Russian thing to go on.
He criticized NATO.
His instincts were right in that regard.
Secondly, he had the border completely under control.
He wants to try to put blue-collar, middle-class workers first from an immigration-type policy mindset.
So to answer your question is, yes, I do believe that President Trump's policies are critical of this kind of embedded Belief system that is yet to be challenged in the post-World War II rules-based order, which really is just a permanent soft oligarchy that runs from Brussels to San Francisco.
That's effectively what we live through, right?
Where the top 5% do super well, and the rest of the West has to kind of struggle in barely owning property, renting perpetually.
I think President Trump In the best case scenario, we'll be able to permanently, philosophically, and politically change the default setting of neoliberalism in the West.
And in even a pretty good win, he'll be able to close the border, fix the immigration policies in the West, end the Ukraine war, which would be a moral good for everybody involved, including the United States.
And then finally, I think that from his economic policies, he wants to put tariffs on China and wants to protect American jobs manufacturing, which corporations hate and is a boon and is a terrific stimulus for what I call the muscular class, which you do not have a country if you do not have a muscular class.
Firstly, I suppose one of the areas where you and I are likely to agree most vehemently is in the support of what you would call the muscular class or commonly referred to as blue-collar Americans and here in our nation commonly referred to as the working class.
Ordinary people, working, lower middle and even middle class have to have their values, their culture, their lives, their jobs protected.
One area that I reckon we might need to drill into is the Automatic and unconscious enshrinement of economics as the apex of our culture and its obvious and evident impact on spiritual values, i.e.
you are seeding the ground to rationalist materialism and I recognize that materialism and rationalism and logistics when it comes to operations must be paramount.
If you're running a country, if you're organizing society, if you're interested in federalism, if you're If you're interested in decentralising power, small governments, not large governments, small government but maximum people power, then you have to understand rationalism and materialism.
But when we accept the language of economics as the language that we use, then in a sense we're ceding philosophical territory to those that believe that our true values are determined On a material spectrum rather than a spiritual one.
I love your points about technology and tyranny and precisely what we're confronted by now is the ability of those two resources to entwine and create a kind of impenetrable helix of power and I suppose that many of our economic ideas on the left and right are concocted in reaction to the advent of industrialism and industrialism now now in terms of particularly the location of manufacturers
you've indicated and indeed it was one of the writers that you listed, George Orwell,
that pointed out that England, or Britain's, working class is now in India. And I suppose
that this is another idea that we've bequeathed to you, the outsourcing of labour and the
impact that that had in our country on the textile industry, coal industry, the list
goes on.
I love your point about invite the world, invade the world, invite the world.
And I wonder if you believe, as I do, that if you are to be a nativist, if you are to be about your nation's interests and everyone in that nation, regardless of their race, regardless of their creed, regardless of their religion, even though I'm sure all of us have our preferences when it comes to religion and culture, etc.
That at some point, if it is decreed by referendum, then control of borders is something that has to be accepted.
But would you say that, you know, if invade the world, invite the world is the problem, is the solution stop invading the world, stop inviting the world, and you can't have one without the other?
Yes, I think that in the current setting, absolutely.
I think that the current life source of the imperial capital, which we call Washington DC, is every nine months they need another country where they're dropping bombs or another regime change type of effort.
And President Trump, again, I don't want to make this too much about Trump, but I will say, to his credit, there were no new wars and he resisted interventions in Venezuela, Iran, many other places.
And so why is that?
I mean, it is a hallmark characteristic of a dying regime to care far more about abstractions abroad than the immediate concerns of your citizens.
And then, in a way that might be economically beneficial to the American ruling class, or it might be politically useful, not only do they want to go break stuff and really kill hundreds of thousands of people in far-off distant lands, but then, as a way I think it makes themselves feel better, then they want to bring them back to the country that they're supposed to govern.
And that is bad for everyone involved.
And I'll just use one example of a lesser reported.
We all in America, we all know the movie Black Hawk Down.
Maybe you know it or not.
It was all about the failed evacuation efforts in Mogadishu, Somalia, under Bill Clinton.
And a helicopter goes down and there was a huge firefight.
And so we were involved in Somalia.
It wasn't a war, but it was another kind of one of our half wars right similar to like Gaddafi and Libya we're kind of
like half in half out which I never liked that because like being half
pregnant it's either you go to war or you don't right it that kind of spectrum is
always been puzzling to me but then we get really involved there and next thing
you know we start importing tens of thousands soon to be hundreds of
thousands of Somalians into our country and they have not assimilated well
And one of the most repulsive members of our government is Ilhan Omar, who never says a nice thing about the United States of America, and she's a radical left-wing... I don't even mean that... I don't want to make it too political in that sense.
She's just like a revolutionary type, where she wants mass immigration, and she is not, in my personal opinion, loyal to the United States.
But that's the project, is that you invade, you get involved, In certain disputes, and then you invite the people that you might have unsettled or that you have displaced.
And not just in that area, we have over 120 countries coming across our southern border right now.
In America, we have 15,000 people a day marching into our country.
We don't know where they're from, but we have some idea where they're from.
We don't know their background.
We don't know who they're connected to.
That point on technology and tyranny, Russell, if I may, I want to make one other point and it's a great, a great anecdote.
Um, uh, Churchill talks about the first time he saw the machine gun and what that, what that did to him.
And I don't remember, I think it was the Darvishes.
I could have this wrong, uh, but it was some sort of, uh, an African proxy conflict and it was the, yeah.
Okay.
The Boer War.
Thank you.
And so, so, you know, this anecdote and I don't need to, uh, no, do it.
And so essentially there were these incredibly courageous warriors of the indigenous people of the country they were fighting in and they hyped themselves up and they went through all of their pre-battle rituals and ceremonies and they charge into battle and England or the United Kingdom just turns on the machine gun and mows them down.
And Churchill writes in his private diaries that was the first time where valor, courage, heroism meant far less than technology and sophistication.
And it bothered him for basically the rest of his life.
He wrote about this all the time, where he's like, war has completely changed.
It's not about how bad you want it.
It's not about, you know, are you willing, like the whole Braveheart scene, right?
Where, you know, one Scott can take on, you know, 10 soldiers of the, the English army.
No, it's just about who has the more sophisticated weaponry.
And then he talked about what does that mean then for the state and how that could potentially destroy people's freedoms.
And so that's one of my favorite topics to explore because we're really now at the intersection of technology and tyranny, a mass surveillance state Um overly medicating the the people we are the most medicated population in the history of the planet in the west the most suicidal the most anxious the most depressed uh the least happy um and I think a lot of these things are connected which is have these technologies actually made us better versions of ourselves are we flourishing and I'm more in the in the direction of no I actually think these technologies that were supposed to liberate us are actually the handcuffs
Yeah, I generally agree with that.
If you, like me, feel that there is a necessity for minimal intervention from any authoritative force, whether that's a state force or some kind of corporate power that acts as its proxy, whether directly through the imposition of legislature or just through the The sheer scale of its influence, the kind of soft power that can be exerted through the globalist corporations that are ultimately, I consider, to be using the veil of America to conduct their globalist projects.
How would you, if you do believe in small government, be able to reduce the impact of,
for example, the pharmaceutical industry, mentioning as you just did the health crisis
that they've facilitated, induced.
What would you be able to do about big food's ability to ensure that people live on diets,
essentially giving them heart disease, diabetes, and cancer?
Without an interventionist state, how do you control the power of major corporations and
their negative impact on the American population and the world population?
Boy, that's a huge topic.
Well, first of all, I think it needs to start with the people and shows like this.
We need to talk openly about the benefits of eating clean and rejecting high fructose corn syrup and not eating foods that are highly ultra processed and eating whole foods.
I think that we need to continue to talk about that from a bottom up cultural perspective.
But as far as the government.
And I say this, in America we have this very bizarre allowance for pharmaceutical companies to advertise.
I say this as a small government guy, it should not be allowed.
Pharmaceutical companies should not be able to run endless advertisements and be able to buy our news company, media companies.
That needs to be ended.
And you saw, I'm sure, the video brought to you by Pfizer, brought to you by Pfizer.
I mean, they literally purchase airtime.
On the mainstream networks and then as far as from a government perspective, I think that we need to and this is interesting because it's actually a restoration of a small government principle and I think you'll like this.
Ronald Reagan made a massive mistake.
Ronald Reagan effectively indemnified the vaccine manufacturers in America that said they were not allowed to be held criminally or civilly liable for the injuries that vaccines do to children or to adults and so effectively what happened and that's how it works in the states and I don't know if it's similar in in the United Kingdom
Where, let's say that you get a measles, mumps, and rubella shot, and you go into a seizure, which happens more than people ever want to acknowledge.
I'm not anti-vax, I'm just saying this is a fact, okay?
The way it works is then you fill out a form, it's called the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, and all the claims are funded by the taxpayer.
So the vaccine companies never have to touch it.
So they have no liability.
So I want you to imagine that you're a multi-billion, multi-hundred billion dollar enterprise, and you have no check and balance from the consumer.
We wouldn't tolerate this with airlines, with banks, with credit card companies.
Again, there's a little bit of moral hazard.
We bail out those companies far too often, but just from a small government perspective, we have created a big government Protection racket of the biggest companies that never have to answer for their products potentially harming the consumers.
Now, the reason they passed it, Russell, was they, well, we need to increase our vaccination rates and we need to protect these companies.
And my answer is, but if the product itself is truly safe and effective, then you shouldn't be afraid of the claims that are coming after you in court.
Then, then fine, you know, little Johnny's in a wheelchair.
Did your vaccine do that or did it not do that and pay the claim or fight it in court?
And so there's this protection racket that nobody wants to touch, which is basically immunity for the four big manufacturers.
The two biggest in America are Pfizer and Johnson and Johnson, but they basically run the American pharmaceutical project.
And if right now I went and got a COVID shot, And all of a sudden I drop dead, or if I had, you know, lasting health effects, I cannot see Pfizer in court at this moment.
Now there's, there's a little workarounds that people like Del Bigtree and others are trying to be able to finally get them to be able to held accountable.
But so to answer your question, Russ, what would I do?
The first thing I would do is I would say, you no longer get special taxpayer funded protection as a pharmaceutical company.
Yeah, that's a good move.
I agree with you on so many issues.
I feel I just want to briefly mention, because I, in I think attempting to try to create conviviality, congeniality, and the necessary solidarity that I believe voices from the periphery have to achieve in order to meaningfully challenge the establishment, failed to mention the significant fact that it was Trump that Push for prosecution of Julian Assange under the Espionage Act and did not pardon Assange when he left office.
And it's like these kind of omissions that trouble me, even though it is plain to see for anybody that the establishment, whether you mean the legacy media, Big Pharma, the military industrial complex and of course the neoliberalist establishment itself do not want that man in power in the same way that they are terrified and loathe Elon Musk and for me that's how alliances must be formed on the on that old adage my enemy's enemy is my friend.
No, I was 0-3 on my pardon attempts at the end of the administration.
I publicly wanted Assange, Snowden, and Ulbricht.
Ulbricht was the guy who started Silk Road and they had the book thrown at him.
So I'm there with you, with Russell.
So I failed when I was trying to get at least clemency or at least a dropping of charges for all three of those.
Yeah, so there's so many areas in which we agree, and I'm sure we would be able to find areas where we don't agree, but they would probably come down to a sort of culture and various things that I consider to be personal, certainly not the business of the state, and indeed have to be autonomous, have to be regionalised, have to be community-oriented to work at all.
We are, one would imagine, evolved to live in relatively small autonomous communities And centralization is a gift that we might use in order to achieve various goals that are impossible when truly balkanized.
But the maximum amount of freedom means opposition to all centralized forces, whether they're corporate or state.
But I know you and I, I think, have deeply in common, as well as like, you should just see two books that are on the desk right now.
This is Winston Churchill's Thoughts and Adventures.
This is C.S.
Lewis's The Problem of Pain by C.S. Lewis.
So there are many areas in which we are clearly aligned.
And I know that you wanted to talk some more about Christianity.
And I sometimes wonder when 10, 20 years ago, when the Republicans were in the ascendancy,
when the occupation and war that concerned most people was the Iraq war.
When the warmongering leaders had the name Cheney but the first name Dick.
When it was a bush in the White House.
When it was Halliburton rather than Pfizer.
That was their sort of corporate entity that caused consternation.
The assumption was that Christianity was leveraged to legitimize American expansionism and now it's a sort of an extraordinary kind of Anti-Christianity that is used to, I don't know, as a kind of spearhead for nihilism, for materialism, for abandonment of all real values.
So I just wonder where you think Christianity becomes significant when forming a political opinion and how that relates to fundamental principles like peace, non-interventionism, compassion, love, the simple rules of Christ, love thy neighbor as you love thyself, love God with all thy heart.
Pretty basic and profound principles.
How do you think that those ideas ought inform politics?
I mean, I think it is the biggest ingredient that informs our politics.
And Russell, I watch a fair amount of your stuff.
I love your curiosity towards Christianity.
I think it's awesome.
And I don't want to speak for you out of turn, but I'm a serious Christian and I believe it is the way, the truth, and the life.
Happy to talk more about that.
But from the political side, look, the two things you mentioned, you know, Jesus Christ, our Lord said that all the laws of the prophets are upon these two things, which is Leviticus 19 and Deuteronomy 6, three through five, which is love your neighbor as yourself.
And then love the Lord, your God, all their heart, soul, strength, and mind.
And so let's just take Leviticus 19, which by the way, is it's an amazing, uh, not very quoted or studied a piece of the scriptures, uh, in that very same chapter, by the way, is also that you shall not favor a rich man or a poor man in a court of law.
That is right there where we get the idea of Western blind justice.
That you don't give the Wall Street banker a break just because he bankrupted our economy in 2008 because he works for Goldman Sachs.
And so that biblical principle we have forgotten in the last decade and a half.
We have one set of rules for the oligarchy and another set of rules for the commoner.
But look, we're entering this kind of era of new paganism in the West.
This idea of atheism or not believing in anything is rubbish.
Everybody believes in something.
Everybody has gods.
Everybody has something they worship or something they prioritize.
The new religion basically is some manifestation of pleasure first, the trans agenda, Anti-racism, you could call it a hyper-environmental earth-worshipping agenda, and I'm nothing against environmentalism, but when it gets to the point of where the worship of the earth is above humanity, I have some big moral problems with that.
And Christianity stands against these false gods.
In Genesis 1 through 11, the order and separation that we have enjoyed in the West were detailed.
The separation between man and woman, good and evil, holy and profane, man and nature.
And that established order is necessary for human beings to flourish.
In my personal opinion, the establishment is Doing a very good job of destroying both that order and separation that we're living through.
I believe there's a spiritual element to this.
I believe it comes from the demonic, where they do not want you to have the distinctions of male and female recognizable anymore.
The distinctions of good and evil recognizable anymore.
The distinctions of nations anymore.
And dare I say, if you do not have distinctions, then you have this very confusing oneness And distinctions, I think, are what makes life exciting.
In fact, isn't that what they're always telling us?
Diversity is our strength?
They don't believe in that.
They do not believe in things that must be separate must be separate.
And so, in Christianity, we believe that all of life points you towards a recognition that you are born a sinner, That you are not perfect, that you're far from perfect from the glory of God, and that God in the incarnation took human flesh, and that we must accept Christ our Lord.
And in that moment, you are born new, and transform permanently, and eventually enter into eternal life.
That ethic, that kind of normative Christian theology, is what largely built the West, which I am daily involved in trying to keep the West from committing suicide.
And I hope we can have a restoration of those values, those ethics, and those principles, because I believe it is the truth.
There's some things in there which I strongly agree, and I wonder sometimes about how ideas like, you know, render unto God what is God's, and unto Caesar what is Caesar's, are utilized to facilitate the kind of aspects of imperialism, Charlie, which are not great, you know, like Western civilization, many of its philosophies,
it's art, the Renaissance, there are so many things there, incredibly beautiful,
certainly in theory, but there is no question that it has led us here. And I think that is
not because of of its inclusion of Christian values but because it has disavowed
them, legitimized them, metastasized them, and metabolized them in order to create false idols
which were evident in the 1980s, the 1970s, the 1960s, and they're yet more evident now. In
fact, I would see us as being on a kind of continuum rather than the last 10 years
representing a particular aberration.
So that's one thing that I feel we could address if we had time. But I'd love to,
I know that you've got a show in a minute, mate, your team has told us, and I'd love to just,
so for a moment, cover exactly what you feel, what your personal connection to Christ is.
Oh, I'm nothing without Jesus.
I'm a sinner.
I fall incredibly short of the glory of God.
We all do.
I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, and it's the most important decision I've ever made.
Everything I do incorporates Jesus Christ.
He is the living God.
And I know for some people it might sound goofy or wacky, but what makes Christianity different, and I respect all different views, but Christianity is not like all the religions, as I mentioned.
It's the idea of the divine and the Logos becoming flesh.
And in John 3, Jesus says you must go through another birth.
He's talking to Nicodemus at this time, that you must be born again.
So when you accept Christ, the Greek word is metamorphosis, basically, you completely change.
And I could tell you, Russell, even if I'm having a bad day, I still have the joy of Christ.
Even if I'm having, you know, a difficult time, I'm born new.
And, you know, the scriptures tell us that this is the greatest love story ever.
Because the only explanation for why the eternal would come down to the temporal, to the broken, to the flawed, and to the dirty is out of love.
And the word love in English is incomplete.
The Greeks had many words for love.
For example, phileo, brotherly love, eros, romantic love.
Storge, love between a mother and a child or a father and a child.
But the word love for Christ in John 3 16 is that agape.
It is sacrificial love.
It is the love of one that would die for you.
And so Christ our Lord came down, lived a perfect life, died a brutal death, defeated death on the cross and in the grave to live against that we might have life eternal.
And I have a joy that doesn't get muted, that keeps me going.
It is my why, and I hope I can bring that light to as many people as possible.
And it is the most important component of my existence, and I'm blown away just to be able to say that God loved me enough to send himself, his son, to die for us so that I might live.
Let's go out on John 3, starting from 5.
Jesus answered, verily, verily, I say unto thee, except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Marvel not I said unto thee, ye must be born again, the wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but cannot tell whence it came, and whither it goeth.
So is everyone that is born of the Spirit.
Then over the page 16, verse 16, that you cited, for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Charlie, that's a great way for us to wrap up our conversation.
It was good for us to focus on the many areas that we agree and find new ways that we might form new confederacies to oppose this neo-liberal establishment power that tyrannizes us all.
Would love to have covered that, some of that demonic stuff you touched upon, but surely we will speak again and me again.
Charlie, thank you for your support and thank you for this conversation.
God bless you too, man.
Thank you.
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Time now for, here's the news.
No, here's the effing news.
Alex Jones has warned about the dangers of Democrats testing martial law In New York City, do you think that this is the legitimate deployment of the National Guard in order to ensure the safety of citizens?
Or is the military being ushered in in order to acclimatize us to new levels of law and order?
And before you dismiss that as a conspiracy theory, not that you would of course, you open-minded awakened wonder, yeah?
Consider that protest laws are becoming more extreme.
In my country, the United Kingdom, the word extremism is being redefined.
In Ireland, the word hate is being redefined.
There are online safety laws or censorship laws of different varieties being passed Across the world in our state of perpetual war.
So is it possible that New York City, like Canada appeared to be during the pandemic period, like Australia to a degree appeared to be during the pandemic period, being piloted for a new level of military interventionism against the true enemy of the state?
You and me.
Here's the news.
No, here's the effing news.
Here's the news.
No, here's the fucking news!
New York City are deploying the National Guard, effectively militarizing their streets and especially their subways.
So is this about citizen safety?
Or is it, as Alex Jones warns, the piloting of martial law?
You will be aware now that New York City, that most liberal of metropolises, has militarized its law forces by putting the National Guard on the subway.
Now, New York City is no doubt in a time of crisis, evidently and apparently connected to the issue of migration.
But is this sudden appearance of military personnel on the New York subways really about protecting the citizenry, or is it More insidious than that.
Are we beginning to experience the piloting and grooming of a population to get us ready for militarized streets?
For many years now, we've seen anti-protest laws, militarization of the police, police cars that used to be like, Nino, Nino!
Scalextrics, Dukes of Hazzard, good old-fashioned fun, have become like tanks now.
Why has that happened?
When did that become necessary?
Is it necessary in your neighborhood?
And if rising crime is a problem in your neighborhood, What exactly is causing it?
Do you trust the people that have the power behind the barrel of the gun or not?
Let's have a look at Alex Jones's perspective.
You'll be well aware that Alex Jones's perspective will be around centralized authoritarianism, global conspiracies and piloting.
But having just lived through the last five years, It does seem that we have been subject, whether it was some of the events around the pandemic or recent censorship laws across the world, to the piloting of ideas in certain territories in order to normalise them.
I'm talking about the freezing of bank balances, closing down of people's social media, using government proxies to censor, dissenting voices, lockdowns, internment camps, arresting people for things they've said on the internet, imprisoning people for things they've said on the internet.
And while the time that we're talking about Donald Trump and how bad he is for democracy, is democracy, even under the auspices of actual Democrat rule, becoming more and more authoritarian?
Let's start with Alex Jones, then we'll get into what we think is happening together.
Tonight, a new approach to keep subway riders safe.
Guns!
Guns aiming at your face.
The new way.
The army.
Threatening to kill you if you step out of line.
Look how compliant the news always is.
Look, don't say that this is terrifying.
Don't start saying the military are on the subway now.
That's a clear indication that whatever your political perspective, things have gone terribly wrong.
Say instead, new way to keep you safe.
New way to help you go to sleep at night.
A firm punch right in the jaw.
Bag checks and beefed up security with members of the National Guard.
Beefed up?
Like it's nutritious?
It's like a bone broth made out of a gun pointed at you by the state.
Night night!
As CBS 2's Naveen Dhaliwal reports, the plan comes on the same day as another attack on a conductor.
So, you know, attacks on conductors.
Gotta bring in the army, so... With riders on edge, the governor is putting a plan in place that includes cameras in conductor cabs and more cops on the platforms.
At Grand Central Terminal Wednesday evening, bag checks were underway.
It seems to me that in order to protect the The legitimizing, raising authority.
Indeed, there's such a sort of raging debate in your country about guns and gun ownership and gun laws.
And all it seems to amount to, really, is not whether or not there are guns, but who's allowed to have them.
And we now know that the state doesn't want to discuss their guns.
What about the dangers and threats of those guns?
What about the many people that are killed in friendly fires, in wars?
Perhaps all we're talking about in politics is who has the right to kill.
As tackling subway safety is now at the top of the list for city and state officials.
These brazen, heinous attacks on our subway system.
On our democracy by me.
What?
No, sorry, I mean on our subway by someone who's not me have got to be met by everyone's got guns now that works for me.
You don't work for me?
No guns.
You work for me?
Guns.
Simple, really?
Huh?
Will not be tolerated.
This was a stern message from the governor.
It is a stern message.
It's a stern, very aggressive message.
It's an authoritarian message.
It's not stern, it's authoritarian.
It will not be tolerated.
I don't care about your past.
I don't care about your social conditions.
I don't care about your mental health.
I don't care if there's been a fentanyl crisis.
I don't care if America's breaking down.
I don't care if you're delirious with doubt and you can't feel God in your heart anymore because you're surrounded by lies and treachery.
All I care about is do as you are told or we'll kill you.
I mean that would What is the message?
After several attacks in the transit system in the past week, these attacks prompting the governor to deploy a thousand members of the National Guard.
Look, that's the news doing the job of propaganda.
These attacks prompting the governor?
I don't know.
I bet if you had the time to look at the data, you'd go, how many attacks are there each year since 1970 in New York on staff members?
And then you'd have to look at a variety of factors.
Poverty, inequality of wealth, mental illness, some government support.
There's so many vital components.
When the solution is always, "We're going to take some more power because of this,"
there's a really nasty cough going around.
So, in conclusion, we're going to take a lot more power.
There's a really nasty Putin going around.
So in conclusion, we're going to take a lot more power.
There's some really nasty truckers going around.
So in conclusion, we're going to take a lot more power.
Is the answer always going to be, you're going to take a lot more power?
There's a lot of people saying on the internet that we're taking too much power.
So we're going to be taking a lot more power and censoring those people.
Okay, and the threat is Donald Trump, how?
And police to subway systems across New York City.
It's what they're doing, checking bags to make sure explosive or illegal weapons aren't entering our subway system.
I think it's rather offensive to all of us as human beings that Eric Adams, being a person of color, I'm getting rather tired of the idea that equality and fairness means highlighting programs of representation in order to mask increasing authoritarianism.
are great. How fantastic. Let's have a diverse and representative but above all
else fair and equal and truly representative society where you don't
centralize authority. I'm getting rather tired of the idea that equality and
fairness means highlighting programs of representation in order to mask
increasing authoritarianism. I agree with equality and particularly when it comes
to matters around gender and sex but above all wealth and power.
City officials say each week NYPD bag screening teams will be at 136 stations.
That's about a third of the stations in the system.
New York City Civil Liberties Union calling it heavy-handed.
But heavy-handed really means like, oh no boss, there's another person was wrote to a bus conductor.
Boom!
Like that heavy-handed means that you're not even actually in control of the weight of your power.
And isn't that the perfect description of how globalist, elitist power masquerading as American patriotic power, whether it's in foreign wars or on the most beautiful city in America, some would argue, New York City, and the imposition of authority all in order, as usual, to help people.
Like stop and frisk, ripping a page straight out of a Giuliani playbook, We had to really because the pages were stuck together.
I'd like to take a note, every time a demon of the liberal elites have their ideas borrowed and utilized by those same liberal elites, Donald Trump is the worst thing that could ever happen.
That's why that wall he's building, that we mocked him for, is still being built.
That's why those cages that we condemned him for are still there and were in fact actually put there by Barack Obama.
Giuliani, that pervert, lunatic, maniac son of a bitch, actually had some pretty good ideas when it came to protecting train conductors, which is now something we care about now that we can have armed military on the show.
I didn't used to care about Giuliani when he was just being in Borat, but now his ideas can really be used to control ordinary people.
I like that guy!
In addition to the bag checks, the governor's plan includes amending state law to ban repeat offenders.
Every single one of these bullet points will amount to more power for the state, a greater ability to arrest and control.
Installing cameras in each conductor's cabin.
Mental health?
You get the idea, mental health.
You know, we'll put something on Instagram.
There'll be a hashtag.
Everyone's gonna feel a whole lot better.
And if they don't...
Now, a perspective from the other side of the aisle, to put it mildly, Alex Jones.
Alex Jones has been a guest on our show and Alex Jones will be a guest on our show again.
As you know, I consider Alex Jones to be a kind of shamanic force in politics.
Of course, he occasionally says things that are pretty crazy.
Hey, who doesn't?
But when it comes to the issue of piloting authoritarian measures and perhaps even martial law, Alex Jones is a voice that's perhaps important.
Let's have a look at what he's saying on this subject.
When I was cutting my teeth 29 years ago on air, Bill Clinton had just been in office for a year or so and it was confirmed, the military was warning, it was coming out, they were leaking classified documents that now are all basically admitted and have been publicly rolled out against the public.
To incrementally bring in martial law.
So they went from this being secret under Clinton, and then with Bush, yeah, it's mainly for Al Qaeda, but it's also for domestic groups.
And then you're asking, well, what's this really all about?
And then you start to realize it's part of a long-term process of just getting the military, the police, the public ready for this.
So here's what's happening.
We're not going to have UN troops one day, or Russian troops like Red Dawn, and you're in Colorado and all of a sudden parachutes come down and you've got Russian troops shooting at you.
It'll be our own troops, but they'll be made up of people that have been tested for decades, going through the training, going along with attacking their own people.
And now the troops are being deployed and searching everyone's bags.
Like how can you not be affected by that image?
That's armed military personnel on the subway being normalized.
I am quite sympathetic to this perspective given what I've witnessed and experienced in the last few years. And indeed, Jones is showing he's working out an
incremental increase in these tactics and techniques over several administrations. Isn't
that indeed the domestic heart of what globalism means? That regardless of who you vote for, you've
got deep state interests that have an agenda that spans various administrations and
those administrations will focus on hot button cultural topics. Meanwhile, the projects of war and
social control will continue. And even beyond the physical representation of military
presence on the street, which is terrifying, we know and often discuss how techniques
designed to track and control dissidents abroad, specifically, literally groups like ISIS, are now
deployed.
Once you've seen armed military personnel conducting bag checks on a subway in New York City when there isn't a war happening or anything remotely like it domestically across America, then you have to acknowledge that that is something that is significant and quite a lot of power and time and propaganda has to be invested in saying that someone like Alex Jones is hysteric and due to his, let's call it his presentational style, he does make that kind of analysis in some circles quite credible.
But let's not forget What we're looking at?
We're looking at armed troops on the subway in New York.
It's not been a terror attack.
There's not been a terror attack.
We're not in the middle of COVID.
It's just being normalized.
Without a warrant, all these decades of preparation for martial law, and that's what this is, is here.
It's interesting.
Bags being searched without a warrant by troops is a pretty significant step to normalise, particularly in a city like New York.
Often when I talk about piloting, I mean Australia, internment camps, trucker protests, and the evocation of the Emergencies Act in Canada, the freezing of bank accounts in Canada and Ukraine.
New York City, that's a bold move.
But I suppose the fact is, is broadly, compliance has become allied to opposition to Trump.
That's what it means.
Like that if you are opposed to liberal democracy, and liberal democracy now means war in Gaza, it means war against Russia, it means being compliant when it comes to medical suggestions that come from the state, all ideas that in the 60s when the heroes were people like Malcolm X, You wouldn't have thought.
One thing you want to be is obedient when Pfizer says jump you say how high and oh I'm not sure I'll be able to because my heart hurts.
Now authoritarianism has become somehow allied to liberalism and the idea that military force and military intelligence is turned against a domestic population has become normalized.
We know from personal experience now that Agencies, deep state agencies and proxies funded by the state that were used as intelligence assets to oppose terrorists, as they were then called, perhaps understandably, in various Middle Eastern wars and subsequent disputes, are now deployed against domestic populations.
That's a fact in your country, in mine, across the world.
So in essence, what we're witnessing is we, the domestic population of these nations, are regarded as the enemy.
And that doesn't take brilliant analysis, actually, because just watch the Oscars.
You know, Trump, that's 50% of the population.
That's 50% of the population, and that includes black people, Hispanics, significant numbers of women.
It's not just mega, you know, it's not that.
It isn't that.
And by the way, you're allowed to be that if that's what you are.
All of you have the right to be who you are.
But they have to create the climate first for martial law and civil emergency to sell us on it, the angrier world that Klaus Schwab talks about.
Yeah, it's an important point that the occupying force are there as protectors and actually that's not a new idea.
The English or British occupation of Northern Ireland begins as we're here to protect, I think initially, forgive me, Catholics in Northern Ireland.
It just Peacekeeping force?
I know there's a long and complex history between our two separate nations, but often the introduction of the
military is Portrayed as for safety and security and protection
I think that probably happens in the Balkan Wars, Middle Eastern campaigns, peacekeeping force
Actually, if that piece of language was introduced when I was a little older and a little better educated, I'd have
gone Peacekeeping force? That doesn't seem like the way you get
peace. I say the whole world must learn of our peaceful ways by force
Of course.
This is not right-wing piece of writing, by the way.
In this journalism, Donald Trump is criticized for his attempts to deploy the National Guard during the uprisings that came from George Floyd's murder.
So this is not apolitical, this is political, but it's political from the side that you would not have expected.
That, for me, increases its validity and is precisely the type of discourse that we must engage in.
If you find yourself over the side of that line, you're being controlled.
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the mobilization of 2,000 city and state police and National Guard troops in
New York City on the pretext of fighting crime in the vast subway system is a
Demonstration of the reactionary character of the Democratic Party last month, New York City's Democratic
Mayor Eric Adams announced He would deploy 1,000 New York Police Department cops in
the subway system after a law and order campaign by the city's tabloids
Sensationalizing a handful of violent attacks against subway riders and transit workers which knowing what I know
now about how the media operates were possibly written in conjunction with the people that introduced this
law It will be here.
We got these stories.
We got these stories.
We'll give you access to this story.
We'll give you this interview.
We'll give you this access.
We'll give you this tax break.
We'll give you this.
We now know that that's the relationship between the media and the state.
Do you think that the X-Files was the first time deep state were embedded within a media organization?
Let me know in the chat.
On Wednesday, New York Governor Kathy Hochul, also a Democrat, announced she was redeploying
750 National Guard troops already in New York City, as well as 250 state troopers and police
of the Metropolitan Transport Authority, MTA, the state agency that runs the subways to
increase the number of uniformed personnel patrolling subway stations and riding trains.
I remember when I was a kid, I used to hear people talk about, you know, you want to see
more Bobbies, that's the word in our country, Bobbies on the street.
But the image there is of a member of the police force on a bicycle.
And again, this might just be where I am in my own personal evolution.
It seems like a rather pleasant idea.
A member of the police force, again that word, that is working for the community.
But now, just think about how it feels to you as a person when you're on the subway And you see people with machine gun, do you feel, do you feel inside yourself, that's good, that's good that that's happening, I feel more safe.
Now I don't know what else might make you feel unsafe, I don't know who you are, or where you're from, or how you've been coached and trained, maybe a group of young people with their hoods up makes you feel bad, maybe a group of drunk Men in suits makes you feel bad.
Maybe people wearing religious attire of some denomination makes you feel bad.
But one thing I can say with some certainty is granting further and further authority to a group invested in war and control will not be good for any of us regardless of our outward accoutrements.
The troops are currently operating out of Fort Hamilton in Brooklyn as part of Joint Task Force Empire Shield.
I mean, that's not good, is it?
Join Task Force Empire Shield.
I mean, they're telling you what they're up to.
What are you doing?
We're shielding the Empire.
And what if I don't agree with the Empire?
Well, I mean, I could put it in a number of ways, but how about, well, I don't know.
Okay, so that event increased authority, increased spying, increased surveillance, increased war, and we all agreed it was a good thing to do, didn't we?
Except for the millions of people who marched against that war against Iraq, which, by the way, happened anyway, of course.
We all agreed that it was necessary because we were under threat.
So what's happening now?
We are under threat, right?
From MAGA Trump on one side or immigrants on the other side, so we'd better get the Military on the streets.
They regularly patrol in the Grand Central Station, the Port Authority and a few other transportation hubs wearing camouflage uniforms and equipped with automatic rifles but not engaging with the population.
Now the soldiers will take on the role of supplement in the NYPD helping with random searches of bags and backpacks and other police activity.
They will also move deeper into the subway system Appearing at more of its 472 stations and riding trains.
Like this is not CBGB's, New York Dolls, Ramones, Bowie, Warhol, Blondie, New York City.
Let's get on it.
Yeah, we're free.
If I lived in New York right now, I'd be, I'd be frightened.
I've lived in New York before.
If I lived in New York and they militarized the Underground, I'd think it's time to get out.
And we'll be seeing this, I predict, and actually Alex Jones has predicted already, with a good degree more experience and research than we're able to deploy, that we're going to be seeing this more often.
And the good thing about it is we'll know, won't we?
Because they won't just suddenly do it and say it's to pick up sweet wrappers, although God, you know, maybe they do that in Singapore.
They will say it's to protect you.
So watch out for that.
Now you know what to watch out for.
HOKL announced other oppressive measures, including the installation of cameras in every subway car and in the cabs used by drives and conductors.
The Democrats in the state legislature will introduce a bill to bar anyone convicted of a crime of violence on the subways from using the transit system for three years, effectively barring them from living and working in the city, where only the wealthy and upper middle class can go about their daily lives without riding the subway.
Again, this is like hate law stuff, isn't it?
Well, you can't blame us.
If someone's committed a violent crime in a subway, then it's sensible to ban them.
If you commit a crime against one of our workers, one of our personnel, we have a duty to protect them, and we cannot let you ride the subway.
Except, what if they didn't?
And what was the provocation?
And under whose authority?
And who trusts the judiciary now anyway?
And who trusts the military?
And who trusts the police force?
Even the military don't trust the military.
They're setting themselves on fire.
They're living on the brink of poverty while still serving.
There are 40,000 of them homeless right now.
If I see someone in a military uniform, I don't know whether I let them check my bag or flip them a buck.
The terms hate and terror are being more widely used.
To appropriately categorise groups in ways that means that they can be penalised, controlled, criminalised or shut down.
You've all seen videos of a mentally ill kid being dragged out by the police for saying something off-key in public.
You know, wasn't that long ago?
Oh, Tourette's, they've got Tourette's, oh yeah.
They're using this authority in whatever way is convenient.
A terrorist now and for some time has been someone that the centralised authority has a problem with.
An individual or group whose intentions are adversarial to the state.
Now the problem is all of our intentions ought be adversarial to the state because the state facilitate globalist corporatism primarily domestic order in order to continue to facilitate that secondarily and other than that it's like I don't know putting on things like the Oscar I don't know what the other role is January 6th protesters are terrorists good because I you know that was terrible that was an insurrection and pro-Palestine protesters are terrorists well good because you know those people they're not like us
Oh, so are you not noticing the crucial fact that wherever you might feel, on the political spectrum our culture offers us, you can be regarded as a terrorist if you're a nuisance?
Statistics collected in recent years show that the campaign to whip up fears of violence on the subways has no basis in fact... Oh, good, right.
I mentioned earlier that there'd probably be information available on the amount of attacks that take place.
Here's some information.
So, get Get ready.
NYPD figures showed a 2.6% decrease in subway crime in 2023 compared to 2022, although there was a jump in January 2024 compared to the same month last year, probably because they registered statistics differently because they knew they were about to introduce these laws, a cynic might assert, in conjunction with a spate of stories released in high profile and compliant media outlets.
Hey, let me know in the chat if you agree.
According to a separate analysis by the MTA and the New York Times, oh right, yeah, that vast template of opinion, The New York Times, violent crimes occur array of between one and two per million subway rides.
Quick!
Get the army down here!
Once every million or two subway rides, there could be a crime!
Well, are there any areas in culture where there's continual crime?
There are.
Do you wanna sort that out?
But a few violent incidents, the knifing of a subway driver, the shooting of a passenger in Brooklyn, have been sensationalized by the media and capitalist politicians of both parties.
Hochul did not conceal the political motives behind her announcement of the troop redeployment.
I'm also going to demonstrate that Democrats fight crime as well, she told MSNBC on Thursday.
In this narrative, the Republicans have said and hijacked the story that we're soft on crime, that we defund the police.
No.
Not only do we defund the police, we defund, and yet still use, the military on the subway!
There you go!
Get down there and search bags!
And when you've finished your tour, there's a sleeping bag for you!
Go sleep down there!
The New York Civil Liberties Union said, Instead, a sweeping surveillance state was being established.
One of the key episodes in Trump's preparation of his attempted political coup on January 6, 2021.
Do with, remember Aaron Bushnall, just a little while ago scrubbed from the internet.
Instead, a sweeping surveillance state was being established.
One of the key episodes in Trump's preparation of his attempted political coup on January 6th,
2021, you can let me know whether or not you agree that that's what that was,
was his threat to invoke the Insurrection Act during the summer of 2020 and send the military
into major American cities to suppress popular demonstrations against police violence sparked
by the murder of George Floyd.
Now a Democratic governor is deploying troops in the largest American city on an equally bogus pretext.
Doesn't matter whether you are at a Black Lives Matter protest or a pro-Trump MAGA protest.
In the end, if you get in their way, you're a terrorist.
You have more in common with one another than you have in common with the media or political systems that are attempting continually to divide you.
It is impossible for the US ruling elite to carry out this policy democratically.
It requires a frontal assault on the democratic rights of the working class and the build-up of the repressive forces of the capitalist state.
So by the time that new measures are introduced that are unpopular, whether it's the increase of war or the increase of authoritarianism, the sight of the military on the streets and transport facilities of major metropolises will be normal and accepted.
Look at the people already just breezing past armed guards on a subway as if it ain't no thing.
Perhaps thinking to themselves, this will protect me from immigrants.
Perhaps thinking to themselves, this will protect me from BLM protesters.
Perhaps thinking to themselves, this will protect me from January 6th insurrectionists.
Whatever they need to put in your mind to make you more compliant, they're willing to put there.
That's why we are very determined, most determined, to put into your heart a spirit of real individual sovereignty and collective representation so that we may oppose this Let me know what you think in the chat.
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