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“Traitor” Tucker CONFIRMS Putin Interview - Legacy Media EXPLODE!!! - Stay Free #301

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	Awakening Wonders, thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand and what a day it is to be free.
	For surely this is the epochal moment where the global legacy media system is being fundamentally challenged.
	No longer can they reign in or contain control of the narrative.
	For The world's biggest online journalist and the leader of the globalist opposition, if you want to see it in such reductive terms, are meeting for a conversation.
	I'm minded of the Muhammad Ali phrase, I ain't got no beef with a Viet Cong.
	What exactly is your individual personal beef with Russia?
	And as Tucker says in his soon-to-be-apocal trailer, you might watch Vladimir Putin talking to Tucker Carlson and go, I don't like this guy.
	I don't like his policies.
	In fact, I'd like to fund a war against Russia.
	In fact, I'd like to ensure that NATO are able to be perpetuated going forward uninterrupted.
	In fact, I'd like to have my children and myself conscripted into an army in order to fight against the Russian military machine.
	Or you might watch him go, hang on a minute, Sounds to me like NATO knew that they were provoking Russia into a conflict and continued anyway.
	You might watch it and decide, hey, hang on a minute, what is this Ukrainian democracy that we're fighting for?
	A democracy where there's only one set of media that's allowed.
	A democracy where elections are cancelled.
	But what is really exposed to me is the nature of propaganda.
	Western propaganda.
	We've got so much to talk about today.
	I'm so glad you're with us.
	If you're in the Rumble chat, welcome guys like Texas Charles, and Johnny Freedom, and Captain Chaos, and Turtle Head, and SheBitesALot, and AGP78, and our awakened wonders over here on Locals like Sensitive Hearts, and J Gwynn Wilde, and The Red.
	All of you are so welcome.
	If you're watching us on YouTube, We're gonna be with you there for about 15 minutes.
	But of course, as you know, YouTube now facilitates legacy media organisations.
	It favours them in the way that it selects and promotes content.
	It uses the WHO's guidelines to inform its own community guidelines.
	In essence, YouTube and their parent company are part of the information management project that we're experiencing now en masse.
	Whether it's hate speech laws in Ireland, whether it's the panic that this Tucker Putin interview is generating, or whether it's the advancing censorship industrial complex that's taking place all over the world.
	And we are going to be discussing all of it because I've got even the platform rumble.
	What do people say?
	Oh, it's a hate speech platform rumble.
	And that's why if you are in the chat, Russell, have you spoken to Tucker?
	Is he okay?
	I'll text him right now.
	Use your free speech to generate unity and love and power, divine power.
	Don't use your free speech to go, F you!
	As like, we're not, what are we, babies?
	Hello from South Jersey, says Yanny Money.
	Hello there, my friend.
	Let's do it.
	Russell, have you spoken to Tucker?
	Is he okay?
	I'll text him right now.
	I'll voice note Tucker while we are on the show.
	We're going to be talking a little bit about Elon and the hate speech laws.
	We're going to be talking a little bit about the current president of the United States, Joe Biden, though it baffles me that that is still an actual verifiable reality.
	And we are going to be reading your comments because your free speech is absolutely vital.
	Should get Oliver Stone on says Shooter928.
	We've had Oliver Stone on before.
	The interview's up on Rumble now.
	You can watch it.
	Yeah, he was an early adapter to anti-establishment narratives, wasn't he?
	Let's have a look at this trailer.
	Even the trailer itself is causing the legacy media to go into a tailspin.
	I mean, what do you want to see first?
	My analysis of the trailer or Jen Psaki, MSNBC pundit.
	But what did she used to do before she worked for MSNBC?
	She had a job before that.
	Oh, yeah.
	She was a White House press secretary.
	But somehow people that work as White House press secretaries can work really easily in the Legacy Media.
	Almost as if there is a continuum when it comes to the agenda and this is exactly what we're covering.
	If you want to see the analysis of the Tucker trailer, first press 1.
	If you want to see the Jen Psaki trailer, press 2.
	We'll play wherever you want because independent media has to be responsive to you, our community.
	Not interested in hate speech.
	We're interested in free speech.
	Why?
	Because free speech is a fundamental principle, used to be a principle of what was once known as the left before it Descended into, let's face it, authoritarianism.
	I still believe in fairness.
	I still believe in the rights of individuals to express their identities consensually in whatever manner they choose.
	I still believe in community.
	I believe in the Lord and I've just seen Democracy is Spoken.
	It's mostly won, so let's get into this.
	The first part of the Tucker trailer is where he says that journalists have a duty to report the news.
	That Americans should know what Vladimir Putin is saying, thinking, Feeling.
	And that might sound preposterous, but there are two presidents, at least, that claim to be out seeing Vladimir Putin's soul.
	I've seen Joe Biden go, I looked into his eyes and I said, you got no soul.
	I looked into his eyes and said, unless you could give my kids a job, you ain't no kind of leader at all.
	We're in Moscow tonight.
	We're here to interview the President of Russia, Vladimir Putin.
	We'll be doing that soon.
	There are risks to conducting an interview like this, obviously, so we've thought about it carefully over many months.
	The nature of the inner experience of various world leaders is not beyond the power.
	Let's have a look at Tucker's, the first part of Tucker's trailer.
	We're in Moscow tonight.
	We're here to interview the president of Russia, Vladimir Putin.
	We'll be doing that soon.
	There are risks to conducting an interview like this, obviously.
	So we thought about it carefully over many months.
	Here's why we're doing it.
	First, because it's our job.
	We're in journalism.
	Our duty is to inform people.
	Two years into a war that's reshaping the entire world, most Americans are not informed.
	They have no real idea what's happening in this region, here in Russia or 600 miles away in Ukraine.
	But they should know.
	They're paying for much of it in ways they might not fully yet perceive.
	Does that seem reasonable to you?
	In the chat, my friends on Rumble, give us a like, subscribe to our channel, and say Y or N. Does that seem reasonable to you?
	You're paying for this war through your tax dollars.
	You should know what it's about.
	Now, I, this is, I'm gonna back myself here and I'm gonna back you.
	I reckon I'll be able to watch Vladimir Putin talking to Tucker Carlson.
	It's not like it's, I don't know, Clint Eastwood or Brad Pitt and I'm gonna get all sweaty.
	Oh my god, he's so charismatic!
	I don't care what he says, I'm on board!
	I'm gonna have to watch and go, right, this guy used to be in the KGB, he's a world leader, I'm sure there's all sorts of Tyranny and hypocrisy and control going on in Russia.
	But what he said, because you know what he's going to say, he's going to say this.
	I don't want Ukraine in NATO.
	I don't think NATO should be expanding into former Soviet territories.
	We want some autonomy in the Donbass region for Russian nativists and Crimea's off the table.
	And with that deal, because they already had a treaty before Boris Johnson, UK Prime Minister, went over there and scuppered it at the behest of Joe Biden.
	There was a treaty already and we don't talk about that.
	Why don't we talk about that in the legacy media?
	Because it's not part of the agenda they want to elevate and escalate because they are obviously partnering the military-industrial complex who benefit from this war.
	Even your so-called border bill includes 60 billion dollars of further aid to continue to fund this war.
	So we agree, right?
	It's okay that Tucker Carlson conducts this conversation.
	It's okay that we decide for ourselves whether or not we agree with what Putin is saying and it seems that it's a pretty significant issue and warrants debate, conversation, transparency and clarity.
	The second part Tucker's video there talks about the effects of the war on the population using an interesting phrase depopulation.
	I know you guys have got some views on that and we have got an astonishing piece of content coming up on euthanasia in Canada and some might think with what's going on in Canada that euthanasia would be a pleasant and pleasing and favorable option but where they're taking these euthanasia laws is astonishing.
	We'll be covering that The war in Ukraine is a human disaster.
	It's left hundreds of thousands of people dead, an entire generation of young Ukrainians, and it's depopulated the largest country in Europe.
	But the long-term effects are even more profound.
	This war has utterly reshaped the global military and trade alliances.
	And the sanctions that followed have as well.
	And in total, they have upended the world economy.
	The post-World War II economic order, the system that guaranteed prosperity in the West for more than 80 years, is coming apart very fast, and along with it, the dominance of the U.S.
	dollar.
	These are not small changes.
	They are history-altering developments.
	I suppose what Tucker's proposing there is that a conversation around epochal, global, geopolitical events that may define political, social and cultural life for generations to come Warrant's Conversation.
	Are you confident that CNN, the BBC, MSNBC, the New York Times, the Trusted News Initiative, and look into that organisation, are you confident that their version of events has your best interests at heart?
	Based on what you've seen in the global media machine, are you convinced that what they care about is the quality of your life?
	Your freedom?
	Your appreciation of reality?
	Or do they?
	And here comes a ball right out of left field.
	Care about control.
	Establishing absolute control.
	Shutting down dissent wherever it's available.
	Just take a glance at the hate speech laws in Ireland.
	Just take a look at the censorship bill in Canada.
	In our country, the United Kingdom.
	Proposed censorship laws in the EU.
	Hmm.
	Seeing a hell of a lot of control, not seeing all of the love that one might expect to see if what we're expected to believe is that the globalist establishment is about care and concern.
	The next part of this conversation is about propaganda.
	What you're going to hear a lot of is, oh Tucker's a propagandist, he's a Putin apologist, he's giving Putin a platform.
	All of that stuff that people like to try out in situations like this.
	I would remind you Vladimir Zelensky went to the Golden Globes and thanked JP Morgan.
	Went to the Golden Globes and thanked BlackRock in post.
	Thank you BlackRock for your investment.
	Now, I'm not saying that the Ukrainian people oughtn't be protected.
	Of course they should.
	Of course the waste of Ukrainian lives is one of the biggest consequences.
	Biggest stains upon our global character generated by this conflict.
	But when you're talking about propaganda, when you see Sean Penn giving an Oscar, I mean, what's being propagandised is the ongoing defence of a seemingly unwinnable military conflict against an unassailable conflict that ought be curtailed at the earliest possible opportunity through diplomacy.
	Is that crazy?
	Is that crazy or is that common sense?
	Most of the world understands this perfectly well.
	They can see it.
	Ask anyone in Asia or the Middle East what the future looks like.
	And yet the populations of the English-speaking countries seem mostly unaware.
	They think that as nothing has really changed.
	And they think that because no one has told them the truth.
	Their media outlets are corrupt.
	They lie to their readers and viewers.
	And they do that mostly by omission.
	Omission.
	They don't report on vital truths consistently.
	We know this.
	That's why if you're watching this on YouTube, we want you to click the link in the description and join us in the freedom speech, free speech stream that is Rumble.
	Not so that we can engage in hateful language or needless cruelty or senselessness.
	On the contrary, I believe in your individual autonomy.
	I believe in your right to be who you are.
	I believe in your right to access information and determine and decide the truth for yourself.
	And that is the very thing that terrifies them.
	And that's why they're going into meltdown right now.
	For example, since the day the war in Ukraine began, American media outlets have spoken to scores of people from Ukraine, and they have done scores of interviews with Ukrainian President Zelensky.
	We ourselves have put in a request for an interview with Zelensky, and we hope he accepts.
	But the interviews he's already done in the United States are not traditional interviews.
	They are fawning pep sessions specifically designed to amplify Zelensky's demand that the U.S.
	enter more deeply into a war in Eastern Europe and pay for it.
	That is not journalism.
	It is government propaganda.
	Propaganda of the ugliest kind, the kind that kills people.
	At the same time, our politicians and media outlets have been doing this That's odd, isn't it?
	Promoting a foreign leader like a consumer brand.
	That's extraordinary.
	The language of commerce, the language of branding.
	We've been so coached in that lexicon and that vernacular that it's all we're able to see.
	The reductivism, the simplification of believing that a particular product will make you feel youthful or exciting or sexy.
	That kind of mentality is being applied at the level of global politics now.
	One Western journalist has bothered to interview the president of the other country involved in this conflict.
	Vladimir Putin.
	Extraordinary and astonishing.
	Ah, now listen, we had a conversation with Tucker Carlson, actually, that's currently exclusively available to our Awakened Wonders over on Locals.
	It's worth joining because when we have these conversations live, you can put questions to people like Vandana Shiva, Glenn Greenwald, Michael Schellenberger.
	Let's have a look at a short excerpt from that conversation that's available.
	If you're watching us now on Locals, you Awakened Wonders, you can watch it now, but you're gonna have to stay with us to see us Break down the legacy media hysteria that's following this significant event.
	Because this is what the censorship industrial complex exists for.
	To shut down the possibility that you gain access to sufficient information to decide for yourself whether or not geopolitical events really do advance your condition.
	Really do benefit you personally.
	Because you're paying for these wars.
	You're going to send your children.
	They're talking about conscription in the UK and Australia and Sweden.
	We are funding it both with our lifeblood and with our tax dollars.
	And after the Afghanistan conflict, can you confidently say that this stuff is working?
	Let's have a look at this moment between me and Tucker Carlson.
	That's up now for our Awaken Wonders.
	We'd love you to join us there.
	We'd love you to be a part of this movement if it's within your means.
	If you're watching us on YouTube, you've got to consider clicking the link in the description and getting over to Rumble.
	Let's have a look.
	at this conversation we had with Tucker.
	And again, I just have to say it once more, the people who should be defending the right of every
	American to say exactly what he believes, period,
	are the same ones now lecturing us about hate speech?
	Are you joking?
	I mean, someone here in the chat right now says, Russia says they have denied the MSM interview request,
	not that they haven't asked.
	This is, you know, like, like, so you're saying that it's a good point in the chat.
	Have other legacy media organizations requested conversations with Putin?
	It's entirely possible that they have, but look at the nature of the reporting on this war.
	We've got some fantastic footage that we'll show you of a conversation that Putin had with the legacy media a little while ago, and he brought up January 6th.
	He said, hey, January 6th was interesting, the way your legacy media framed that.
	You're going to love that.
	That's coming up in a minute.
	Now, if you're watching us on YouTube, we're going to just be available for a couple of minutes.
	In fact, I'll just show you a little more.
	I'm going to just show you What Tucker Carlson says about freedom of speech and Putin's potential reasons for entering this war, which could include NATO encroachment on former Soviet territory, which is a breach of an agreement between Gorbachev and Reagan.
	You know that.
	The significance of the 2014 coup.
	You know all about that, right?
	The relevance of biolabs.
	That's going to be significant, isn't it?
	And we are then going to be in a position To assess for ourselves.
	Hmm, okay, well, you know, it's not like saying, oh, Putin should be our best friend and why don't we go on holiday with him.
	What it's about, Russell, you need to visit Mr. Putin.
	I'm on my way.
	I'm on my way to that Kremlin right now.
	Edmund Free, Putin is a murderer.
	Quite possibly, very likely.
	Former KGB agent, person whose invasion of Ukraine is quite likely criminal.
	But remember, the International Criminal Court can't be evoked.
	Why?
	Because if the International Criminal Court were to start investigating the last few decades of American military
	activity abroad, it would find that it's similarly criminal.
	So this is not about saying, isn't Russia fantastic?
	And what a great guy Putin is.
	Far from it.
	This is about saying, wait a minute, our legacy media is a propagandist machine that's about shutting down dissent, imposing censorship, and amplifying the messaging of the powerful to erode your personal freedom, our personal freedom, even our freedom to disagree with one another, which is the greatest freedom we have and is necessary in anything remotely resembling a democracy.
	Most Americans have no idea why Putin invaded Ukraine or what his goals are now.
	They've never heard his voice.
	That's wrong.
	Americans have a right to know all they can about a war they're implicated in.
	And we have the right to tell them about it because we are Americans too.
	Freedom of speech is our birthright.
	We were born with the right to say what we believe.
	That right cannot be taken away no matter who is in the White House.
	But they're trying anyway.
	Almost three years ago, the Biden administration illegally spied on our text messages and then leaked the contents to their servants in the news media.
	Amazing, they illegally spied on them.
	This is how, this is how the machine functions.
	Illegal surveillance, spying.
	This is the machine that we are dealing with.
	This is the machine that will do anything it can to shut down dissenting voices and then claims it's doing it for your benefit.
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	There's a link there right now.
	It's in the Rumble chat, it's in the YouTube chat, it's in the AwakendWonder chat.
	We're going to be off in a matter of seconds.
	Let me see that countdown please.
	We're leaving and we've got so much more content to convey to you.
	We're going to do the rest of this analysis.
	We're going to look at Jen Psaki's reaction to this.
	We're going to look at the legacy media meltdown that is currently ensuing as they grapple to find reasons why this interview shouldn't take place.
	Calling Tucker a traitor instead of focusing on what's happening.
	What if we condemn the source of the information?
	It's astonishing and brilliant to watch this unravel.
	We are in a race for freedom of speech.
	Click the link in the description if you're on YouTube.
	Join us on Rumble right now.
	We're gonna go deeper on this.
	You'll love it.
	Okay, let's have a look at the... Was we midway for a clip or was we at the end of one?
	Midway.
	Okay, run it again if you would from the gallery, please, guys.
	They did this in order to stop a Putin interview that we were planning.
	Last month, we pretty certainly did exactly the same thing once again.
	But this time, we came to Moscow anyway.
	Mmm. Pretty bold, brave stuff there.
	I mean, what they'll say on the legacy media is, oh, it's not brave because Tucker knows he'll get a favourable
	audience, but what does that matter?
	All we're really asking, it's pretty basic, is would you like to hear the perspectives of Vladimir Putin before endorsing a $188 billion bill that's calling itself a border bill when $60 billion of that funding is going to the Ukraine, when you know Ukraine's democracy is pretty dubious.
	They're cancelling elections even though Joe Biden won't debate.
	Nobody won't turn up in his own primaries even though we're censoring and shutting down information and using the CIA to prime media organisations to ignore true stories about laptops that are dubious.
	That's a funny post in the Awaken Wonder chat right there.
	Very good meme.
	Very good.
	It's worth joining that one.
	It's a different speed of chat.
	You will enjoy it.
	Can I just show that?
	I want to go back to the Tucker thing, but just for a bit of variety.
	Can I show Jen Psaki's reaction?
	Just for a little bit of a change of pace.
	There's number eight on there.
	So this is Jen Psaki.
	Now remember that Jen Psaki, firstly, this is not judgment of anyone of a human being.
	I believe in God.
	I believe in the Lord.
	I love the light.
	I'm trying to be a better person.
	Jen Psaki, as far as I'm concerned, she's an expression of absolute divinity.
	My concern is that as a former White House press correspondent and secretary, she ain't able to be all that objective.
	Look at the condemnation of the Tucker Carlson interview.
	You're gonna love this.
	It'd be worth asking yourself, since it is getting pretty serious, what is this really about?
	Why do I hate Putin so much?
	Has Putin ever called me a racist?
	Has he threatened to get me fired for disagreeing with him?
	So why does permanent Washington hate him so much?
	If you've been watching the news you know that Putin is having a border dispute with a nation called Ukraine.
	Border dispute?
	It's certainly one way to characterize a major military invasion.
	Even that first point of saying using the word border dispute or the term border dispute is disingenuous and misleading.
	That's an astonishing approach because In the legacy media analysis of this conflict, you won't hear any talk of the 2014 coup.
	You won't hear any talk of NATO's role in provoking Russia.
	Even Jens Stoltenberg, as you know, said that Putin made it explicitly clear that expansion into former Soviet territory or an attempt to get Ukraine to join NATO would be met with military action.
	You can say that's wrong all day long.
	Then you should probably have a look at whether or not you feel it's possible for Ukraine to win a war against Russia, whether or not you want to fund it through your tax dollars, whether or not you want conscription in the country you live in, and whether or not you can rely on the legacy media who decry what they call propaganda while simultaneously propagandizing an issue.
	Of course, Carlson is now just another far-right conspiracy peddler with a show on the internet.
	He's no longer on Fox, as we all know.
	Do you know how disingenuous that is?
	They panic all the live long day about the power of online and independent media.
	They are terrified.
	They realise the jig is up.
	They're falling apart.
	Their views are falling.
	Their influence is crumbling.
	Their ability to control your consciousness, to manipulate your attention, to shut you down is waning.
	They're panicking.
	So being derisory... And what about the rest of the time?
	This is an MSNBC host.
	When they talk about Fox normally, I hate Fox News.
	They loathe Fox News.
	Now that Tucker's not on Fox, she attempts to use that as a type of slur, as if Fox were a badge of honor, an endorsement, a kind of blue chip organization.
	No.
	And he's apparently been spending the last few days in Moscow for some reason.
	Who knows?
	We don't know why.
	He has to stay relevant somehow, so I guess we'll learn in the coming days.
	Maybe.
	But his position on Putin and Russia's invasion of Ukraine, one that would have been That's a really interesting point, that Jen Psaki is complaining that the Republican Party are no longer hawkish enough.
	Ten years ago, we had wars for any reason!
	Ten years ago, it didn't matter if you had weapons of mass destruction or not.
	We were coming for you!
	Astonishing, yeah, and someone's pointed out, stay relevant.
	That is, like, as if Tucker Carlson needs to stay relevant.
	We're doing a news show on him doing a news show.
	What he's doing is manipulating, altering, shifting the way that news is conveyed.
	In a way, I'm really glad they said that, because that's one of the attacks they use on me.
	Russell Brown, I always feel a bit hurt by that, like, oh god, am I trying to stay relevant?
	Is that I don't know what I'm trying to do, but actually I realize what I'm trying to do is participate in truth.
	What I'm actually trying to do is participate as best I can in the elevation of our collective consciousness to create conditions where we can freely disagree with one another.
	We've become now the majority view within the party because Republicans in Congress have been delaying additional aid to Ukraine since October.
	Today, House Republican leadership rejected any possibility of voting for the Senate's bipartisan compromise bill that would have provided funding for Ukraine, Israel, and the U.S.
	border.
	It's the compromise bill.
	It's something for everyone.
	$60 billion for Ukraine.
	It's astonishing to suggest that these issues are not at least tangentially connected.
	Tucker Carlson is interviewing Vladimir Putin to hear what Russia's perspective on war and potentially peace is.
	While a bill is struggling to be passed that includes 60 billion dollars of additional military aid for Ukraine.
	It's hardly irrelevant.
	Let's have a look at what's this number 9.
	Jen Psaki, oh yeah, the show's struggling.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Let's have a look at this.
	$118.
	That's how that $118 billion is carved out.
	The vast majority of it is going to Ukraine and significant sums are distributed elsewhere.
	We can go back to the Tucker breakdown if you want to, or we could have a look at this interview between NBC and Vladimir Putin.
	There was a very famous book by Edward Said called Orientalism, I think, use it or tell me in the chat, where he said the problem between the West and the East is that people from the West imagine That our perspective on reality is the only available perspective on reality and if you're from the Islamic world or if you're from China or whatever you have a completely different understanding of reality, your own trajectory, your own philosophy, your own teleology and your own appreciation and understanding of what the world might look like.
	Similarly with Russia.
	Russia may have their own plans, Russia may have their own agenda but I don't Personally think, or at least I've not seen anything that makes me fear that Russian expansionism might include current NATO countries.
	In fact, I'll be honest with you, I don't actually know in a post-Cold War era what NATO is supposed to be doing.
	And one of the things we're getting schooled on at the moment is you're not in a post-war era anymore, you're in a pre-war era.
	You best get ready for war.
	You best get ready.
	Let's have a look at this interview where Vladimir Putin challenges the reporting around events of January 6th.
	This is astonishing.
	And bear in mind this, when we're talking about censorship, when we're talking about free speech, when we're talking about the right to journalistic free expression, Julian Assange is still in prison in Belmarsh in the UK with He's not at a trial.
	He's not at a trial.
	He's there under the Espionage Act in the United States while he's in the UK waiting to be extradited.
	There's a hearing for that on February the 20th and the 21st and we should all support Julian Assange because what Julian Assange did was embarrass the globalist machine.
	Whether that was Hillary Clinton, that's why you won't get a squeeze out of the Democrat party, or the military-industrial complex.
	He exposed war crimes.
	That's what Julian Assange did.
	And that's why he got shut down.
	And that's why he's in Belmarsh right now.
	Let's have a look at Vladimir Putin doing an NBC interview.
	And I'd say he's more trouble than he's worth, this guy.
	He's kicking up.
	Can I just ask you a direct question?
	Did you order Alexei Navalny's assassination?
	The CIA order the assassination of Julian Assange.
	Remember when Trump said, do you think we don't do stuff like that?
	That's the kind of rhetoric that Trump deployed that made him accessible and popular.
	Because as Chappelle brilliantly and famously said, we realized and recognized, oh no, he's telling us what we've always thought is going on, is going on.
	And now all of us that use independent media, that participate in these kind of conversations are Of course not.
	the game play out in real time. Oh no, they're terrified.
	We're going to see Putin and be able to listen and assess using our individual intelligence,
	or wherever we may be on that spectrum to determine for ourselves what's in our own best
	interest, whether or not we support the perpetuation and ongoing funding of this war,
	and who is suffering more than the Ukrainian people as a result of it.
	Of course not. We don't have this kind of habit of assassinating anybody. That's one.
	Right there, right?
	I'm able, using my own individual intelligence, to determine that Putin is lying.
	I reckon that Putin has had people killed.
	I didn't go, oh well, I just saw Putin say on television that they've never killed anybody!
	I've been propagandized!
	Number two is, I want to ask you, did you order the assassination of the woman who walked into the Congress and who was shot and killed by a policeman?
	Do you know that 450 individuals were arrested after entering the Congress and they didn't go there to steal a laptop?
	They came with political demands.
	450 people have been detained.
	You're talking about a capital... They're looking at jail time.
	Between 15 and 25 years.
	And they came to the Congress with political demands.
	Isn't that persecution for political opinions?
	Oh dear.
	Not easy to get an alternative perspective, is it?
	Check out this.
	I need button number 7 up, guys.
	Have a look at Glenn Greenwald's tweet about Bin Laden.
	And the fact is that sometimes it's interesting to get the perspective even of someone that you are opposed to.
	This is Greenwald, our friend over here on Rumble.
	Through its reporter Pete Arnett, CNN interviewed Bin Laden about why he declares jihad against the US.
	That's what journalists have always done.
	Now, Erin Burnett insinuates Tucker Carlson is a traitor for interviewing Putin, the decay of US journalism.
	We know what journalism is now, and what journalism isn't.
	There's a time where a journalist like Whitney Webb would have been regarded as a treasure.
	She would be like writing for Rolling Stone or the New York Times.
	Now Whitney Webb is regarded as a pariah by the legacy media.
	Why?
	Because she tells stories about true corruption, true hypocrisy, the true machinations and agenda of the powerful, rather than simply propagating the lies of the elites.
	Oh, should we have a look?
	What is this, our Tucker trailer?
	Alright, the end or the rest of it.
	Before we get back into analysing the Tucker trailer, guys, there's how, yeah, she's a real treasure stealth fact enthusiast.
	I think she's a brilliant, brilliant journalist.
	There's a full conversation between us and Whitney Webb up on Locals right now.
	My favourite bit is when she talks about how BlackRock are advancing a plan to commodify every aspect of nature.
	You need to hear Whitney Webb describing it.
	It's like, Thin Air now is owned by BlackRock.
	Trees!
	Rivers!
	It's astonishing.
	It's really, really brilliant.
	Can we see the bit where we talked about, like, because part of what Tucker is being accused of is presenting Vladimir Putin with an opportunity to propagandise, but let's just, can we see some of the times that Zelensky, and again, I'm like, I think the Ukrainian people should, look at this!
	Time magazine, Golden Globes 2023, thanking BlackRock, there he is with Jessica Chastain, there he is with Ben Stiller, He's on Netflix, there he's getting an Oscar of Sean Penn.
	Like, what that is, like Tucker said, normalising him and presenting him like a brand.
	This is not an attack on Zelensky, he's doing his best, but I would say that Ukraine are being exploited by globalist military institutions in order to perpetuate a profitable war that likely has as its end point Creating a kind of Ukraine that could be used as a military base on the edge of Russia.
	I mean like Zelensky was already doing a post-war deal with BlackRock to turn it into a kind of pilot digital space.
	We did a really good presentation on that a little while ago.
	Astonishing.
	Let's get back to our analysis of the Tucker trailer for a bit, shall we?
	Thank you very much, guys.
	Let's see where we were now.
	Thanks all of you for joining us.
	John, Evwok, Russell and team, you've stepped up your game today.
	Thank you.
	I'm glad you're enjoying it.
	And please share this stuff around.
	We are not here because we love Vladimir Putin.
	We are here because we love the United States.
	That's the killer, innit?
	That's hard to come back from that.
	It's an act of patriotism.
	Whatever you think about Tucker Carlson, I don't think you can say this guy is not patriotic.
	He's an all-American dude, innit?
	He's like a... This is my assessment.
	I count Tucker Carlson as a friend now.
	I figure that he's a traditional, Christian, cares about America, cares about freedom, American man.
	That's how I see Tucker Carlson at least.
	I don't think that he is a pro-Putin stooge.
	We want to remain prosperous and free.
	We paid for this trip ourselves.
	We took no money from any government or group.
	Nor are we charging people to see the interview.
	It is not behind a paywall.
	Anyone can watch the entire thing, shot live to tape and unedited, on our website, TuckerCarlson.com.
	Elon Musk, to his great credit, has promised not to suppress or block this interview once we post it on his platform, X, and we're grateful for that.
	The Elon Musk-Tucker Carlson axis is a terrifying thing for the legacy media and the globalist establishment.
	Between them, they get access to interviews like this one between Putin and Tucker Carlson,
	and through Musk and his determination to keep X a free speech space,
	now have the ability to broadcast unedited, which I think is a really bold move,
	and unexpurgated content.
	You won't get that from the legacy media.
	Now, if people are saying, well, MSNBC have applied to interview Putin and he refused,
	well, maybe because he might imagine that the interview would be manipulated
	and used in order to generate particular outcomes.
	Just for a moment, consider that YouTube have banned Russia Today.
	Russia Today is just like, you know, CNN or BBC.
	It's just state media of Russia.
	Of course it will give you a favourable perspective of the agenda of Russia.
	And then you, as an individual, go, well, seems pretty pro-Russian, this take on the news, but then it's Russia Today.
	But what they pretend is, is that MSNBC or CNN or Fox are being objective about the news.
	This is the objective perspective.
	What you're going to get from Tucker Carlson is an American patriot's perspective on a conflict that could potentially be ended a lot more easily if the agenda were not to continue it but to reach a diplomatic peaceful solution that will be beneficial to everybody significantly and perhaps even mostly Ukrainian people.
	will certainly do their best to censor this video on other less principled platforms because that's what they do.
	They are afraid of information they can't control.
	OdiumLXV points out that Russia today is on rumble.
	Yeah, exactly, exactly.
	Rumble can't be on in France anymore because France in their mad Macron globalist new era doesn't want free speech.
	That's why I'm always saying to you lot be nice to each other in the chat because if people look at the Rumble chat and everyone's just going freedom I don't care what religion you are I believe in your freedom I don't care what your identity is I believe in your freedom they'll go oh no these people are amazing they're the future when they look in there and it's like I hate people who read that book or wear that hat or that shawl and it's like see it's full of hate speech.
	We have to be better.
	We have to be better.
	But you have no reason to be afraid of it.
	We are not encouraging you to agree with what Putin may say in this interview.
	But we are urging you to watch it.
	You should know as much as you can.
	And then, like a free citizen and not a slave, you can decide for yourself.
	Thanks.
	Like a free citizen and not a slave.
	And isn't that what's at the heart of this, isn't it?
	Let's have a look at some of the headlines that this has generated.
	Uh, Tucker Carlson announces interview.
	He's praised the Russian leader for years, says Rolling Stone.
	Tucker Carlson's in Russia to interview Putin.
	He's already doing the bidding for the Kremlin.
	Tucker Carlson interviews Putin in Moscow after years of anti-Ukraine vitriol.
	This is...
	Very deliberate editorialization.
	Rumble was down in the UK today.
	What happened?
	Yeah, presumably cyber attacks of some nature, I would assume.
	And precisely what we're experiencing now is the, yeah, I'm not a slave.
	Nice one, rusty ball stud, old son.
	You stay free.
	That's why stay free is our catchphrase, because we don't care whether you are pro-Trump or pro-anybody.
	We care about your individual right to express yourself, Both democratically and spiritually and logically and irrationally and emotionally and mentally, we believe in your freedom.
	Your freedom is everything.
	Tucker Carlson keeps getting secretly filmed by people.
	Now, I noticed yesterday when he was talking to somebody that he was on what I call Russian manners.
	One time I went to India on holiday and I was there at the same time as a lot of Russian people for Russian Christmas.
	You know, they do their Christmas a bit later.
	And I noticed that all Russian people were double intense.
	Can I ask you about your interview with Putin?
	With who?
	to never get in a war with Russia, particularly not to invade them from the West in November
	when it might get cold all of a sudden.
	Rush, Tucker was on Russia manners for a while.
	He wound that chuckle in, but now the Tucker chuckle is back.
	Let's have a look at this on number 12.
	Thank you.
	Can I ask you about your interview with Putin?
	With who?
	With Putin.
	With, I've heard the name, but I...
	With our president Putin.
	Bye.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it sounds familiar, but I don't... I can't say his name.
	There he is!
	I think that's post-interview.
	That's post-interview, innit?
	Because you can tell that this dude is chilled right out.
	And I think that, yeah, that's it.
	The pressure's off.
	The pressure's off him for sure.
	Okay, I feel like we should maybe do some more stuff because then we can play it in and, you know, maybe.
	I'm thinking.
	What else we got?
	We got a lot of stuff for you guys.
	Like, for example... Yeah, let's have a look at the Biden-Bush stuff.
	You'll love this.
	Here's Joe Biden claiming that he can look inside Vladimir Putin's brain by using his own brain when I would doubt whether or not he has the ability to actually use his own brain.
	Now I don't like being mean about Joe Biden because, again, I want to be loving and I want to look for the beauty in all things and I don't think that Joe Biden is very well and I don't think he should be Run in the country?
	I don't think he should be running a half marathon.
	I don't think he should be running his mouth.
	I don't think Joe Biden should be doing anything other than relaxing.
	Relaxing and enjoying his dotage, but here he is making some astonishing claims.
	I know I got criticized.
	This is a little while ago and you actually you can witness the deterioration of Biden when you look at footage of him from just a couple of years ago he's a lot more cogent here and it sort of shows you how right and in fact after this why don't we look at the footage of him from like a day ago you know if we got that that bit of him like he looks proper out of control let's have a look at him here he he's quite cogent for Biden here.
	I was criticized when I was last with Putin and we were in his office alone And he wanted to show me his magnificent office, and it was.
	And I had my arms up.
	I said, it's amazing what capitalism will do.
	And as I turned, we were coincidentally just about this far apart, looking at each other.
	And I said, and I wasn't being a wise guy, I said, Mr. President, I'm looking into your eyes, and you have no soul.
	And he looked back at me, and he said, we understand one another.
	What's that meant to mean?
	That is an extraordinarily peculiar eschatological conversation that Joe Biden's claiming to have had there in the Kremlin.
	He looked into Putin's eyes and said, you have no soul.
	And Putin went, we understand each other.
	Do you think that really happened?
	Is that plausible?
	Is that somewhat ridiculous?
	Is this the kind of assessment that you want to march to war on the back of?
	And here, remember, because this is a conflict that's been escalating for some time, or certainly a dynamic that's existed for a long time, here's George W. Bush also talking about that.
	We're perilously close, tantalisingly close to 30,000 on Rumble.
	It's worth putting a post out on X, get a few more people over here.
	Loads of you watching in the Awaken Wonder chat now.
	Let's have a look at George W. Bush talking about the soul as well.
	It's interesting to hear this kind of discourse included because guess what?
	Precisely the direction that I suggest we head in is a spiritual awakening.
	And a spiritual awakening is more likely when we're well-informed.
	And a spiritual awakening and a well-informed population is not what the globalist establishment wants.
	It's important to understand, not to threaten, to understand where the other person's coming from.
	Yeah, this is good.
	This is George W. Bush saying, like, I looked down his soul hole or something.
	I peeped at him down his soul hole.
	I looked in his eyes and saw his soul.
	He's just casually saying that.
	It's lovely.
	I looked in his eyes and saw his soul.
	That's right.
	Just saw it.
	There it was.
	Back down his eye hole.
	That's where his soul was.
	Well Joe Biden couldn't see one.
	So I don't know what meetings you lot are all having.
	Have a look at this.
	Have we got the bit where Joe Biden's in deterioration?
	Yeah this is an extraordinary moment like this is again recent this is Joe Biden just a couple of days ago responding I think to sort of maybe Trump not backing that bill 60 billion dollars of which is going to perpetuate this war which I think we're about to get a very different perspective on.
	We're about to hear things about this war that might make us a shade less compliant and that seems to be causing a little bit of consternation.
	Let's have a look at that.
	This is him talking about where, oh yeah, this is matters, the debate one.
	This is where, you know, like Trump said he would, on the great Dan Bongino show,
	Trump said that he would like to debate Joe Biden.
	Okay, let's get both of them, because they're both good, so rack them up if you would.
	So is this the one where he's talking in a deleterious manner?
	And this is on 20, is it? Nice one.
	There is some movement and I don't want to, I don't want to, well maybe.
	This is not good, is it?
	I mean, what's going... This is... Like, we spoke to, and you'll love this conversation between us and Vivek, I spoke to Vivek Ramaswamy and I said, do you think Biden is actually going to run?
	He says Michelle Obama.
	Some people think Gavin Newsom.
	Some people think that Trump's not going to be in a position to run.
	But whatever happens, we cannot envisage, can we?
	As a global population on the precipice of endless forever wars, fully immersive in every direction, that the leader of the so-called free world is this sweet, adorable, but plainly exploited individual.
	Excuse my words.
	There's some movement, there's been a response from the Oh no, this isn't right!
	People are putting elder abuse.
	Free Assange for truth.
	And if you are interested in freeing Assange, let's support him on the 20th and 21st.
	And we're going to do a special live show from outside that hearing to support Julian and his campaign for justice, freedom, journalism, a campaign that's getting a real boost today when we've heard that we're getting a Putin interview.
	And again, we're not naive.
	We know what Vladimir Putin is, but we also know what Joe Biden is.
	Let's look at him.
	There's better response.
	From the opposition, but yes, I'm sorry from Hamas, but it seems to be.
	A little over the top.
	We're not sure where it is.
	There's a continuing negotiation right now.
	What that shows you is Joe Biden cannot possibly be, other than symbolically, the President of the United States.
	He can't be making commander-in-chief executive decisions about the United States of America's role on the global stage.
	It's just not possible.
	So that's a sham.
	That's a facade.
	Why are MSNBC not reporting on that sensibly?
	Why are they continually agitating and claiming Trump's senility?
	It's extraordinary.
	It doesn't make a little bit of sense to me.
	Trump, at least, is claiming on Dan Bongino's show, can we make Brangino happen?
	Is it a possibility?
	Will our prayers be answers?
	Because we love Dan Bongino.
	In fact, it's worth maybe showing this a little later.
	When Bongino spoke to Trump, he got some little boy eyes.
	I'm not saying this because I don't want to diss Dan Bongino because I think he's handy in a fight.
	That would be my guess.
	But he seemed very excited to be talking to Trump.
	And on that show, Trump revealed that he wants to debate Joe Biden.
	And here's Joe Biden's response to that.
	Now, Those of you that are familiar with Taoism, Zen Buddhism, or any koan, a mental device used to create an oxymoronic and paradoxical shift in your consciousness by presenting you with two opposing ideas simultaneously, cracking the shell of the ego and revealing the yoke of the awakened soul, will enjoy this.
	Donald Trump is ready to debate you right now, do you accept?
	If I were him, I'd want to debate me too.
	Trump wants to debate you immediately.
	If I were him, I'd want to debate me too.
	If I were him, I'd want to debate me too.
	Trump wants to debate you immediately.
	If I were him, I'd want to debate me too.
	What? I don't know.
	Actually, I'll give you a mug.
	If you know what that means, let me know either in the Rumble chat or in the Wake and Wonder chat.
	What does that mean?
	If I were him, I'd want to debate me too.
	Now, you could take this in a number of directions.
	Who is it?
	Would it be Schopenhauer that would say that if you'd lived the experiences of another individual, then you would of course be them if the conditions were the same?
	Certainly, Winston Churchill here in this book, Essays and Adventures, said he would live his life the same way again if given the same opportunities, obviously.
	Of course you would.
	But if you had foreknowledge of your future life, then you would perhaps make different decisions and live a different life.
	Nietzsche says that you should live every moment of your life in the spirit that if you had to live that moment for all eternity, you would not regret it.
	Now when Joe Biden says, if I were him, I'd want to debate me too, what does he mean?
	What does that mean?
	What is the meaning of it?
	It doesn't, I don't think it means anything.
	Now let's have a look at what he's responding to there.
	It is Donald Trump and he sounds unusual over there on Dan Bongino's show.
	If I were him he wouldn't have to vote.
	Yeah it's an extraordinary, it doesn't make sense.
	Someone says it's narcissistic at best.
	Now remember if you're over here watching this right now give us a thumbs up, give us a like and subscribe to our channel please and consider becoming an Awake and Wonder Where you can see our Whitney Webb interview in full.
	You can see our Tucker Carlson interview in full.
	It's the only place that you can access it in full.
	He's being arrogant, someone said.
	Let's have a look at Dan Bongino, our friend Dan Bongino, you know, with whom we're trying to create the Brangino phenomenon.
	He's got Trump on the phone.
	He's got Trump on line one.
	Imagine the moment.
	You can see Dan Bongino's joy and you can hear Trump saying that he will debate Joe Biden, let's have a look at that.
	I think it's just incumbency.
	You're an incumbent.
	And, you know, there just seems to be a loyalty in both parties.
	And maybe, you know, sometimes you should be there.
	But when a guy can't answer a question and when he doesn't do the Super Bowl, which would be a great opportunity, actually, this would be a good time.
	You don't always have to do them, but this would be a good time not to, you know, to stay to stay right in somebody's face, especially when you have those kind of numbers.
	But he can't do it.
	Because he can't talk.
	He can't do anything.
	He's ruining our country.
	And I don't think he's gonna run.
	I don't know if it's donors or otherwise.
	It might be his family.
	It might be something.
	I don't think he's gonna run.
	But I'd like to go for immediately debates.
	I'd like to debate him now because we should debate.
	We should debate for the good of the country so I will officially on your show call.
	Oh wow!
	Look at that!
	We're breaking news mister!
	There he is, that's Dan Bongino breaking news over there.
	Listen, what I think is fascinating is that we are participating right now in a transitional moment.
	New dynamics are emerging.
	There are significant people in this space now that are able to maneuver global events.
	In the past, there's no way that you would be able to get access to the leader of a nation with whom you were in a proxy.
	While you're praying for me, keep praying for me.
	I love the Lord.
	I need all the light I can get.
	Now because Elon Musk's commitment to free speech over there on X, because Tucker Carlson's over there doing that Putin interview, because of Rumble, our home, and their support of me when I was under attack from the legacy of media, we now have the ability to dissent.
	We now have the ability to fight back.
	Don't squander that ability.
	We need to unite right now.
	That is why again and again I tell you This is a time to move yourself way beyond any ideological or cultural-based rhetoric or invective over there in the chat.
	This is the time to go, I don't care what your religion is.
	If you are opposed to the establishment, we are on the same side.
	Because if you believe in decentralised democracy, if you believe in running your own community, if you believe in the dismantling of the globalist machine, then you have more in common with one another than you have in common with the globalists.
	And you better find That place in common because there's a war going on and not just the ones that you're funding.
	Elon Musk's announced that he will fund legal challenges to Ireland's forthcoming hate speech legislation.
	Another globalist artifact to shut down dissent.
	The leader of Ireland, the Daleseach, I can't ever get that Gaelic word right, the Daleseach Taoiseach, Leo Varadkar is pressed on this and this is amazing they did some polls on do you want new censorship in your country Ireland after you've thrown off the oppression of the British and 70% of the public goes no thanks we'll decide for ourselves what we could talk about this is amazing look at the tangle this globalist leader gets himself into trying to defend these undemocratic
	Globalist measures.
	Taoiseach, your government conducted a Taoiseach, that's the word, a public consultation regarding hate speech laws where citizens were asked to give their thoughts on the issue and out of the thousands of responses from private individuals over 70% were not supportive of such laws and yet you're proceeding with them anyway.
	So my question is why did your government bother to do a public consultation if you were just going to ignore the results?
	Probably a reasonable question.
	Why do a public consultation?
	Ignore it.
	When we say to you, what clip would you like us to put on?
	We put on the clip that you ask for.
	It's just common sense.
	What's amazing is you can watch this dude, Stooge, in the background awakening in real time.
	It's almost as if the red pill is hitting the back of his throat while he's there.
	Listen, watch his face.
	The guy in the background is like, hang on a minute.
	This is a massive blag.
	Well, we do public consultations because we think they're good practice.
	It's a way to find out what people's thoughts are on issues, and it's also a way to flesh out and highlight some of the issues we may not have considered.
	But we're also wise to the fact that the vast majority of people don't make submissions to public consultations.
	We have to bear that in mind.
	It's only a small portion of the population that participate in these things, so it's not necessarily All right, so he's sort of saying the polls are irrelevant.
	That's weird.
	He's doubting it.
	The bloke in the background is doubting it.
	Hold on a minute.
	Campaign groups?
	will organise responses so...
	Hey look he's doubting it, the bloke in the background is doubting it.
	Hold on a minute, campaign groups.
	It's like for example you could sign the WHO, anti-WHO, excuse me, the anti-WHO treaty
	for to stop the UK taking on the WHO treaty.
	Post it in the chat right now.
	There's 93,000 signatures on it, right?
	If it gets to 100,000 signatures, they'll consider Debating it.
	Oh, thanks for the democracy.
	If a hundred thousand people go to the trouble of signing a petition saying we don't want the WHO determining our response to another, some would say inevitable, pandemic, you'll consider debating it.
	We've seen what debates look like when it's an important issue like excess deaths or vaccine injury.
	No politicians turn up.
	Same as in your Congress.
	They manipulate the nature of the debate.
	That's why we got Andrew Bridgen.
	The MP who's determined to make some challenges on these issues coming on our show for you.
	Remember, he's a bit like, I suppose, is it, uh, who's our man, Ron Paul?
	Rand Paul, yeah, like Rand Paul, excuse me, I have a lot of information in my mind and I can't hold on to barely any of it is the truth.
	We're like, he's a bit like Rand Paul.
	He's trying to challenge the narrative from within the system.
	I bet there's a thousand things I don't agree with him on.
	I don't agree with my own wife on a thousand things.
	But what's important is for us to find the things we do agree on so we can form some kind of consensus so we can challenge this corruption.
	If you're in the UK, sign that thing.
	Sign it, damn it.
	And remember, give us a like and subscribe to our channel.
	It's important.
	It's vital.
	It helps us.
	Sign that thing.
	Now, let's get our eyes back on this dude in the background as he experiences an awakening.
	We're clear with that too.
	But why hold the consultation if the end result is just going to be disregarded on the basis that it's not representative of public opinion?
	What's the point of it then?
	That's amazing!
	What's the point of it?
	The guy back there.
	Yeah, what is the point of it?
	Well, the point is that we're a democracy and in Ireland we have elections and decisions are made by the government and the elected parliament.
	They're not made on foot in public consultations or opinion polls.
	That's not what they're about.
	They're about testing the temperature.
	So is it just for show then?
	No.
	It's also not just for show.
	It's everything.
	It's not any of those things.
	It's also not that thing.
	Absolutely extraordinary.
	Absolutely astonishing.
	Sign that petition.
	Let's have a look at it.
	There it is.
	There's 93,000.
	If we get to 100,000, it will be considered for a debate in Parliament and we'll have the nerve to call it democracy.
	I hope you've got one of these petitions.
	In the United States because you'll be signing up to it as well because you're not allowed access to information.
	You're not allowed the opportunity to speak.
	You're not allowed dissenting voices in your space.
	Absolutely astonishing and yet they call it democracy.
	It's absolutely Baffling.
	Remember, we've got a big week coming up because Julian Assange's hearing is next week and we'll be doing everything we can to support Julian Assange and I'm sorry to say that ain't a great deal because there's probably been negotiations and deals made between the United States and the UK to extradite him.
	But eventually people will understand that Julian Assange is exactly the kind of journalist that the world needs.
	A journalist that exposes state and international corruption to ordinary people so we can determine for ourselves Whether or not we trust them.
	In our conversation with Vivek Ramaswamy later in the week, he talks about Michelle Obama.
	Probably not to the degree that some of you in the chat would like to take the conversation, because I know the direction you'd take a Michelle Obama conversation.
	You would drag it down south, wouldn't you?
	Wouldn't you?
	Well, I ask him whether or not he thinks the Democrats will Put Michelle Obama forward as a candidate.
	I also ask him about the world.
	Jesus, there's so much.
	You'll enjoy this conversation enormously.
	But let's go out on a big bang.
	Remember, sign up to our, you know, like, join us on Locals if you can.
	Become a subscriber over there on Rumble.
	Like, if you become an Awakened Wonder, when we talk to Greenwald, you can talk to Greenwald.
	You can ask him questions.
	When we talk to Schellenberger, you can talk to him.
	You can ask him questions.
	When Bandana Shiva comes on, one woman who they can't call racist because she's an Indian woman, who'll come out live and tell you Bill Gates has been worse to India than Hitler.
	I suppose Hitler didn't get so far as India, so she's got a point there.
	But she's making some pretty bold moves over there.
	You've got to join us on Locals.
	You can watch our Tucker Conversation right now.
	I want to say hello and welcome to some of our new members like Shirley Rose Lee, Jilly Bean, Lukey, The Oracle Mum, P. Clonginger.
	Thank you for supporting us.
	You're glorious.
	Now, let's get back to Tucker and Putin.
	Let's get into it in some depth.
	Let's talk about the Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson axis.
	Let's talk about the significance of us being given direct access to important information so that we can decide for ourselves how much we trust Putin, how much we don't trust Putin, how much we want war, how much we don't want war, how much we trust Zelensky, how much we don't trust Zelensky.
	Whether or not we trust the military-industrial complex, how many of your tax dollars you want pumped into this next, latest, forever war, or whether or not you would like a diplomatic solution, and whether that might be best for everybody.
	Mohawk says in the chat, World Hoax Organization.
	You got it!
	Okay, here's the news.
	Oh, join us tomorrow, not for more of the same, but for more of the different.
	Until then, here's the news.
	No, here's the news!
	news you're gonna love this.
	Tucker Carlson is in Russia to interview Putin and the legacy media and the establishment
	are outraged.
	Is this because Tucker is a traitor and it's somehow irreligious for him to have a conversation with Putin?
	Or is it because this conversation could give us the opportunity, along with the axis between Tucker and Elon Musk, to get an entirely different perspective on an extremely significant issue, global war.
	Consider this, if Tucker Carlson can interview Vladimir Putin and Elon Musk can publish it on X, that means that all of us are going to gain access to a perspective on a topic that could change the trajectory of world events that the establishment would rather we wouldn't have.
	Two years into a war that's reshaping the entire world, most Americans are not informed.
	They have no real idea what's happening in this region, here in Russia or 600 miles away in Ukraine.
	Now, I'm not a Putin apologist.
	I'm sure living in Russia under the yoke of Putin's tyranny could be terrible.
	But what seems to be pretty clear is that the legacy media are outraged that Tucker has dared to go to Russia to speak to Putin.
	And he's apparently been spending the last few days in Moscow for some reason.
	Who knows?
	We don't know why.
	He has to stay relevant somehow, so I guess we'll learn in the coming days.
	And perhaps that's because there's a narrative that Putin is a madman and an expansionist.
	That Putin started this war without provocation.
	That Putin has rejected all overtures towards peace.
	And it seems that at least there is a viable counter-narrative that that's not true.
	That NATO breached former Soviet Union territory.
	That Putin doesn't want Ukraine in NATO on his doorstep.
	And you could say Ukraine's an independent nation and they should be able to join NATO.
	But then you're in a conversation about what is the value of NATO?
	How's NATO benefiting you?
	I'm not saying I know the answer to these questions.
	I'm saying we're entitled to have a conversation.
	And I would like to hear what Vladimir Putin's got to say about NATO, about the disputed region of the Donbass.
	about Crimea, about what his terms for peace would be, because we're continually told that Putin is a lunatic, can't be appeased, he's a contemporary Hitler.
	Wouldn't you like to see him answer some of those questions?
	Wouldn't you like to see a journalist and Vladimir Putin having a conversation before you just automatically assume that everything you're being told by CNN and the American government and the corporate establishment is irrefutably true?
	Isn't it interesting that Russia today has been cleansed from the internet, whereas apparently in Russia Tucker is a recognizable superstar, so whatever's going on in Russia, they're not banning all American media.
	So isn't it valuable to have a conversation while we're on the precipice of war?
	And are those people that are calling Tucker Carlson a traitor those that are most guilty of treason?
	Because they seem to want to cut us out of the conversation when it comes to extremely significant global events.
	This is what RFK tweeted, The legacy media is in shambles cause we've caught on to
	their lies and propaganda.
	Tucker Carlson has every right to interview Putin.
	We need more transparency instead of less.
	It used to be understood that journalists would interview world leaders,
	even those with whom we're at war.
	Meanwhile, Bill Kristol, former chief of staff, posted, Perhaps we need a total and complete shutdown of Tucker
	Carlson re-entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what's
	going on.
	What seems more extreme there?
	What we're asking you today is, are we literally at the tipping point of independent media?
	Where in the figures of Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk, we have an axis that could literally disrupt the entire establishment.
	Tucker Carlson can have a conversation with a world leader with a competing narrative, and Elon Musk can publish it through X. That means that all of us will gain access, we'll be able to watch with our own eyes and listen with our own ears to what Putin's saying.
	I'm not saying it's not possible that Putin is a liar, a lunatic, an expansionist, a former KGB operative that's possibly had a hand in countless murders that Russia have their own agenda, but If we can hear Putin literally saying, I would accept a peace deal if Ukraine don't join NATO, if we keep Crimea, and if there's a degree of autonomy in Donbass, we, the population of the Western world that are currently funding for our tax dollars and pounds the perpetuation of this war, might be able to go, hmm, what is the value of NATO?
	Wait a minute, are the military-industrial complex benefiting from this war?
	What state is Ukrainian democracy in anyway?
	Do we want conscription in the UK and Sweden and in Australia, which is currently being discussed by the way, presumably to provide human fodder for these wars?
	What this conversation represents is nothing less than the establishment being confronted with the new power of independent media to oppose their narrative, to oppose their agenda.
	Whatever you think of Tucker, whatever you think of Putin, Whatever you think of Elon Musk and even whatever you think about Russia, the panic that the legacy media and establishment are going into now suggests that they've got something more than our well-being in mind.
	Let's have a look.
	The word reset.
	A massive shakeup in Kiev coming as Putin is trying to court the MAGA GOP in the United States.
	That's heavy editorialisation already.
	Putin is trying to court one of the MAGA leaders.
	Tucker Carlson is not a MAGA leader.
	Anyone who watches or listens to Tucker Carlson will know that he's sort of sometimes got a circumspect on Trump.
	I like Trump here, I've got questions about Trump there.
	MAGA is a very particular aspect of American political life, Make America Great Again, and it seems that there's a legacy media attempt to frame it as extreme rather than populist.
	to frame it as sort of violent and somehow unacceptable rather than a kind of response to the failure of neoliberalism.
	You don't get MAGA without Barack Obama waving away the debts generated by the financial crisis, for example.
	That's not about Barack Obama's race.
	That's about Barack Obama's affinity with globalist financial interests.
	This is brilliant framing designed to stop us even questioning the legitimacy of Tucker going to Russia to have a conversation with Barack Obama.
	In fact, one of the leaders of the MAGA GOP is in Moscow tonight.
	It's the man you see here.
	The man you see here criminalizing it as if Tucker Carlson's being observed from a hedge.
	There he is, look, at a public event.
	With the MAGA leader Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson.
	Possibly there in Moscow to interview Putin.
	How dare a journalist speak to a political leader?
	Everyone knows the job of journalist is to tell everyone that Ivan Mechnin is a horse paste.
	Definitely there as a Putin-supporting celebrity.
	He's not a Putin-supporting celebrity.
	Putin is a leader on the world stage.
	I'm sure you could scrutinise Putin's record in power and go, oh my god, this looks a bit corrupt.
	The way that a new oligarchy was formed when state institutions were carved up and distributed, all of their former communist assets were privatised.
	There's loads of things you could ask about.
	I'm sure there's weird assassinations and murders, but like Trump himself said, do you think we don't have people killed?
	Putin's a killer.
	A lot of killers.
	We've got a lot of killers.
	Why do you think our country's so innocent?
	You think our country's so innocent?
	What it is is the assumption that Russia don't have their own right to a perspective, that Putin don't have his right to the institutions of a nation.
	If what Putin's doing is wrong in Russia, what America's doing all over the Middle East is wrong.
	That's the conversation they're not capable of having.
	I'll tell you who is capable of having that conversation, Tucker Carlson.
	I'll tell you who would ask questions like that to Vladimir Putin, Tucker Carlson.
	This isn't about whether you personally like someone, although I do personally like Tucker Carlson, as a matter of fact.
	This is about what the function of media is.
	Just listen to how Russian state media is breathlessly celebrating his visit.
	Even when I watch Russian media and Russian news, I think that is not a country you want to have a war with if there's any way around it.
	If there's any way around it.
	If that's their news, imagine what their army's like.
	Hello, welcome to news.
	I kill you.
	Independent journalist Tucker Carlson has flown to Russia from the US.
	Sit up straight, here is news, I kill you!
	He saw Spartacus ballet at the Bolshoi Theatre.
	Ballet, but only about Spartacus, about a radical slave leader who turned against Tommy.
	Had lunch in a nice restaurant.
	Needless bit of propaganda there.
	Remember saying that Russia doesn't have their own propaganda?
	Of course they do.
	But the declaration of the legacy media that propaganda is a one-way street, that state imperatives is a one-way street, their globalist agenda is a one-way street.
	Remember, Tucker is being reported on in Russia, Russia Today, which includes people like Slavoj Žižek, the philosopher, Chris Hedges, like Pulitzer-prizing former New York Times journalist, had all their Russia Today stuff just scrapped.
	What we're saying is, is that the legacy media and establishment isn't interested in protecting you, it's interested in controlling you.
	Once you have that analytic, then everything kind of makes sense, doesn't it?
	Look at them talking about him like a celebrity. Everything he does on camera, breathlessly repeated.
	Now it is unclear if an interview between Putin and Carlson will take place, but if it does,
	it gives Putin a chance to sit down with a big supporter.
	Also, what's wrong with that? Again, the assumption that we're not capable of watching Tucker Carlson speak to Putin and
	go, Hmm, okay, right, well maybe Putin's got his own agenda.
	Can you incorporate that into your understanding that that's a world leader in charge of a massive country with an incredible history with his own agenda and nuclear weapons and literature?
	What I resent is the assumption that all information should be given to me pre-chewed with a pre-determined outcome already offered to us.
	Why they are terrified is because we might watch this and go, hey, I'm not sure it's worth perpetuating this war and funding this war and having this bill for billions of dollars go through, the majority of which, by the way, is going to Ukraine, not going to the border.
	A small amount is going to the border.
	We might be able to decide for ourselves that we want to take our own nations in a different direction, that our own media is unreliable, that our own political class is in need of radical revision.
	Here is Tucker Carlson when he was still on Fox, which if you ask me he was booted off of because he was anti-war, that's just my opinion, talking about Vladimir Putin.
	Have a listen to this and see if it makes sense to you.
	It might be worth asking yourself, since it is getting pretty serious, what is this really about?
	Why do I hate Putin so much?
	Has Putin ever called me a racist?
	Has he threatened to get me fired for disagreeing with him?
	How is that different than when Mohammed Ali said, I ain't got no beef with the Viet Cong?
	How can I shoot them poor people?
	Just take me to jail.
	When he said, I don't want to be conscripted into the US Army to go fight other brown people around the world on behalf of an American agenda.
	Do you think America's really changed since then?
	Oh, that was America of the 1960s when it was governed by the military-industrial complex.
	Very different America.
	Since then, why?
	Everything's changed since Wolfowitz and Cheney and Barack Obama and Raytheon and Lockheed Martin and reneging on a deal with Gorbachev to not impede on Russian territory or former Soviet territory and getting involved in the coup in Ukraine in 2014 and the Ukrainian biolabs and Victoria Nuland admitting that successive administrations have had involvement in Ukraine and supporting the Azov battalion that are literally Nazi.
	There are questions to be asked.
	Does he eat dogs?
	These are fair questions.
	It's not a fair question to ask if he eats dogs.
	There's no reason to ask that.
	And the answer to all of them is no.
	Thankfully, independent media I mean now.
	But the idea that having someone like Tucker Carlson have a conversation with Vladimir Putin
	is treason is bullshit.
	What it is is an opportunity to get a perspective that is gonna be detrimental to their agenda.
	And that's why they're flapping and panicking.
	Does he eat dogs?
	These are fair questions.
	It's not a fair question to ask if he eats dogs.
	There's no reason to ask that.
	And the answer to all of them is no.
	Vladimir Putin didn't do any of that.
	I'll actually always remember watching that clip.
	I was standing in Ukraine 48 hours before the war began there.
	Doing exactly what I was supposed to be doing.
	Being in Ukraine.
	Not asking why all other media outlets have been shut down and why all of the political parties have been shut down.
	I was in Ukraine not asking why Gonzalo Lira, an American journalist, was in jail.
	I was in Ukraine believing that there's just good and bad and that's it.
	Ignoring the quote by Solzhenitsyn, because he's Russian, The good and evil doesn't run between nations, races, creeds, genders, or individuals, but through every human heart.
	Because we ain't got time for that, because we're offering you propaganda while accusing other people of being propagandists.
	That's literal irony.
	Well, Carlson then stood by Putin consistently all the way through.
	And that is why he can go to Moscow now without any fear of being summarily imprisoned.
	People shouldn't fear being summarily imprisoned anyway.
	Again, remember, Gonzalo Lira, American journalist, died in a Ukrainian jail.
	No one talked about that.
	Why?
	Because he was like, I'm not sure about Ukrainian democracy.
	Of course, Ukrainian people shouldn't be killed.
	That's ridiculous.
	And of course, this is a war crime, the invasion of Russia into Ukraine.
	And of course, we can't really talk about that because if we started using that metric, we'd have to acknowledge all of the war crimes the United States have committed over the last 50 years because all of their invasions have been criminal.
	Many of them have not involved the consultation of Congress.
	They're all criminal wars.
	Hypocrisy, hypocrisy, hypocrisy.
	He's a hero.
	This was Putin's mouthpiece in the United States.
	They're using the same narrative that they used for Trump, huh?
	This is Putin's mouthpiece.
	Oh, he's been peed on, I suppose, has he?
	Somebody who had turned a blind eye to the atrocities committed by Putin because they were happening far away.
	Yeah, so should we look for a diplomatic, immediate solution to this war?
	Or should we continue to fund it?
	When you look at the mass graves, when you look at the death, do you think that Russia is going to be defeated in a military confrontation by Ukraine at any point?
	Do you think that there's not going to be a bit where they go, well, we've got nuclear arsenal.
	Why are we talking about conscription of troops in the United Kingdom and Australia and Sweden?
	Because they recognize that this conflict can continue to escalate.
	Also absent from this narrativisation is the fact that there was a peace deal on the table, apparently ready to be signed by both sides, and then Boris Johnson, Prime Minister of our country, the UK, went to Kiev and dissuaded Zelensky from signing it.
	We've seen Jens Stoltenberg, the head of NATO, say that Putin said, if Ukraine joins NATO, that's war.
	Presumably that means if Ukraine don't join NATO, that's not war.
	So have you personally got strong views on Ukraine joining NATO?
	I don't think Ukraine should be invaded.
	I don't think Ukrainian people should be attacked.
	I don't think Ukrainian people should be conscripted and killed.
	But I would like to see what Russia, and in particular Vladimir Putin, have got to say.
	I'm determined for myself, perhaps based on a conversation with you lot, whether or not we trust Putin.
	Putin said that he's not got an interest in invading other NATO countries like we're continually told he's going to.
	Oh, he invaded Ukraine and next was Finland, Sweden.
	We've been told to think of this as a kind of Hitler part two.
	But in fact, what this is, is it seems to me, a globalist attempt to continue to perpetuate a very profitable war and extracting complex information that we're entitled to hear, i.e.
	Tucker Carlson should interview Putin.
	Putin is trying to seize on the fact that Zelensky's military appears to be in turmoil,
	capitalizing on a moment of intense American political dysfunction and intensifying strikes.
	Here's presidential candidate Bobby Kennedy offering some elucidation on his opinion that
	yes, Tucker Carlson has every right to interview Putin and that Putin and the Russian people have
	every right to their own trajectory. Again, I don't think Ukraine should be bombed. I don't
	think there should be a war between Ukraine and Russia, but I would like to understand why it's
	happening and how it would be most expediently stopped immediately.
	Putin every day says, I want to settle the war. Let's negotiate. And Zelensky has said,
	we're not going to negotiate. But in 92, the wall came down in the Soviet Union. Gorbachev said,
	I'm going to allow you to reunify Germany, but I want your commitment.
	After that you will not move NATO one inch to the east and we solemnly swore we wouldn't do it.
	Someone should have written that down really, shouldn't they?
	It's a pretty important commitment that was made between Reagan and Gorbachev there and one that appears to have been reneged upon due to the agenda of of actually Western expansionism and imperialism.
	Why is it that you can have China surrounded by US military bases,
	and then when China does something and it negatively impacts a warship
	in the South Pacific, China are the aggressors?
	We have to, I think, train ourselves to have a broader perspective,
	not be called traitors for doing that.
	Well then in 97, we're going to move NATO a thousand miles to the east
	and take 15 countries into it and surround the Soviet Union.
	We then overthrow the government.
	In 2014 they're elected government and put in a Western sympathetic government.
	Russia then has to go.
	Do you hear like how complex that is and reasoned and geopolitical and geographical and cultural?
	It's not.
	Putin is a baddie and he's a bad madman and he's got numerous doubles and plus he has cancer and he dribbles and he's insane.
	That is propaganda.
	What we're listening to there is a set of reasons that led to the escalation of this conflict.
	Whenever you hear the critiques of Russia and Putin, it sounds like propaganda.
	When you hear the counter-narrative, for which everyone from Tucker to us to Greyzone are called Putin apologists for recounting, it's like, well, isn't the 2014 coup relevant?
	Isn't the expansion of NATO relevant?
	Isn't the disputed region of the Donbass relevant?
	These things are legitimate questions that you will see Putin respond to when Tucker does that interview, and that's what terrifies them.
	What terrifies them is hundreds of millions of people, let's say, watching that and going, Huh.
	Do I want my children or my family conscripted into the military to fight that war?
	Do I want my tax dollars endlessly spent on that conflict, knowing what I know about Afghanistan, that it cost two trillion dollars and how did we benefit?
	It ended in a botched evacuation and disaster.
	Once we have that information, they no longer have power over us.
	Isn't it more likely that's their concern rather than what is the other reason?
	Oh, well, this is bad for them, going over there to speak to Putin.
	He's a baddie.
	What's the other reason?
	And they know the new government that we just installed is going to invite the US Navy into their port.
	So then the Russians go in, they only send 40,000 people.
	It's a nation of 44 million people.
	They clearly do not intend to conquer Ukraine.
	But they want us back at the negotiating table.
	The Russians just want a guarantee that Ukraine won't join NATO.
	Zelensky signs the treaty, Putin's people sign the treaty, and Putin starts withdrawing the Russian troops, in good faith.
	And what happens?
	Joe Biden sends Boris Johnson, the British Prime Minister, over to Ukraine in April.
	And forces him to tear up the treaty.
	And since then, 450,000 kids have died.
	So that is why the Tucker Carlson-Putin interview matters.
	That is why Tucker Carlson's relationship with Elon Musk is important.
	You might find a hundred things you disagree with Tucker Carlson or Elon Musk or indeed Vladimir Putin on, but what you do have the right to is their perspective.
	And the reason that the legacy media and the establishment are flapping and panicking and trying to shut this down isn't to protect you, but because they want to control you.
	When you hear Bobby Kennedy explain an alternative history of this escalating conflict, as well as pointing out some of the obvious consequences for Ukrainian people, for Russian people, potentially for your family coming up, for your tax dollars already, doesn't it seem like hearing directly from Vladimir Putin might be valuable?
	Doesn't it seem like a peaceful solution might be favourable?
	Doesn't it seem like we might be at the very point where independent media could topple
	the chokehold that the legacy media and their establishment affiliates have over the minds
	of our populations?
	And isn't that what terrifies them?
	And isn't that what they're trying to shut down?
	Whether it's Joe Rogan horse paste, stuff about me or stuff about Tucker.
	Why don't you decide for yourselves if you're allowed to continue to watch this kind of content?
	Because right now there are censorship laws being passed all around the world with the aim apparently of protecting you further.
	Or is it controlling you further?
	But that's just what I think.
	Let me know what you think in the chat.
	See you in a second.
	Thanks for refusing Fox News' prime time.
	No.
	Here's the fucking news!
	What's happening, Tucker?
	What happens here tends to act as a preview for what's about to happen in the rest of the West.
	Ultimately, the current set of global conflicts, will they be used to legitimize further authoritarianism and control?
	Without question.
	And the irony is that control will be exerted in countries that don't have ongoing wars.
	I just feel sad for everyone.
	But I know lies when I hear them.
	I can't deal with it.
	Fox News is parting ways with primetime host and conservative commentator Tucker Carlson.
	How do you feel about the fact that, you know, in your career you've moved from being in one media space to another one that had a very different identity in terms of Fox and the role that you had there?
	Are you aware of the risk?
	Do you feel that risk?
	I have the great advantage of being 54, so I'm not...
	I'm not afraid to die.
	I'm not shooting for another 30 years in media.
	I think it's enough to say what I think is true now.
	The window within which democracy operates is so narrow that you're able to present it as a type of freedom.
	You're articulating my darkest thoughts, which I never say out loud, but what you just said.
	The definition of democracy has changed from the people rule to the institutions rule.
	They're really afraid.
	They know how unpopular they are.
	And a lot of their decisions are made not simply out of greed and selfishness, but out of panic.
	In the way that all illegitimate regimes behave toward the end.

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