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Oct. 18, 2023 - Stay Free - Russel Brand

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Meta & Merck’s SECRET Alliance Just Got EXPOSED?! - Stay Free #226

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	I'm going to go ahead and get the other one.
	So I'm looking for a way to get to you.
	In this video, you're going to see the future.
	We are getting some breaking news.
	We've got a live shot there.
	Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.
	Thanks for joining me for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
	We've got an incredible show for you today, particularly if you are already an Awakened Wonder, you can join us live and join in with the conversation.
	We're going to be asking you which particular clips or stories you want covered.
	We're going to be asking you questions throughout, so do become an Awakened Wonder if you can.
	In the show we're talking about the global free speech crackdown that's already underway.
	Legislation's being passed across the world.
	Joe Rogan's noticed that Canada is potentially coming for his content.
	We'll be talking about that.
	And Elon Musk is receiving peculiar Threatening letters from gangster bureaucrats from the EU as a result of their new digital crackdown laws.
	Essentially, across the world, independent media is being pressed.
	Now, many of you that are sort of, I would say, conspiracy theorist adjacent have noted that centralised authoritarianism will require censorship because as long as there's access to account and narrative, we can dispute what the legacy media are telling us.
	And you know that the function of the legacy media is to amplify and normalize the objectives and agenda of the powerful.
	We're going to be talking to Asim Malhotra later.
	Let me know in the chat if you've seen Asim Malhotra on the show before.
	If you have, press Y if you've never seen him before.
	You're going to love him.
	When we found him, he was little more than a plucky cardiologist.
	Now he's appearing live with some of the great heroes of our show, like Vandana Shiva and Bobby Kennedy, talking about misinformation, disinformation and medical malpractice everywhere.
	He has become one of the most outspoken voices around pandemic corruption and today we talk a little bit around some of the changes in reporting around myocarditis and pericarditis yet another one of those subjects that moved from you're a conspiracy theorist nutjob to Pfizer having to plainly admit it.
	If you're watching this anywhere other than Rumble, download that Rumble app right now, because unlike YouTube, if you download the Rumble app and then turn on the notification bell, you will get notified.
	You'll get ding!
	There's a new piece of stay free content.
	Obviously, if you own a Samsung phone, they won't ever let you do it, which is another crazy weird thing.
	Now, of course, we're talking about the ongoing Omnicrisis.
	I know you lot.
	I know you very well.
	I know that you are intelligent, and intelligence and sensitivity are very similar qualities.
	And it's difficult to be alive right now and know that we live in the midst of numerous geopolitical crises, some of which are too...
	Sensitive and incendiary even to discuss.
	One of the new emergent aspects of the escalating Middle Eastern conflict is the potential for military action against Iran.
	As I've said to you before and I will say to you again, I don't feel qualified to comment on the grief and agony that the people of Israel must be going through now.
	Whatever they are feeling is an appropriate response to the horrors that they have recently endured, I do not feel qualified to comment on or gainsay.
	But I want to point this out.
	Do you know that A military attack from the United States on Iran is something that's been discussed for a long, long time.
	You know that America's involvement in Iranian politics is an ongoing thing.
	Let me know why or if you know the deep history of corporatist, colonialist interests in the Middle East.
	It's obviously a very significant factor.
	You know that when the New American Century plans were announced, and we're going to go into more detail on this tomorrow, the countries that were proposed to be attacked, undermined and essentially dismantled were Iraq, Syria, Iran, I think North Korea, Lebanon, Libya.
	Anyway, Iran is one of those countries and this is something we were just discussing here today.
	We'd kind of forgotten that when Trump left office and he had those documents, those boxes, Beautiful boxes.
	Not as many boxes.
	I keep them in a nicer place.
	Biden keeps his in a garage.
	Disgusting.
	One of the things that he had was plans for the United States to attack Iran.
	This is extraordinary and I want you to bear this in mind when watching Lindsey Graham, a very hawkish Republican pro-Trump politician who has Throughout the Russia-Ukraine conflict advocated for more and more military expenditure, more and more support for Ukraine.
	And again, you can understand why people would want to support the suffering Ukrainians.
	Of course, from a humanitarian perspective, that is wise and advisable.
	But have you noticed that there's an attempt to bundle together Various global conflicts, notably and obviously the current Israeli situation, with perpetuating the Russia-Ukraine conflict.
	Let me know if you've noticed that.
	Have you observed, because certainly we've told you, that people in Congress, just as this crisis was escalating, were investing in weapons manufacturers.
	What's going on with the exploitation of this situation?
	And watch Lindsey Graham now and tell me in your heart of hearts, do you think Lindsey Graham is speaking from a perspective of shared horror in the terror attacks that took place in the past few weeks?
	Or do you think there is another motivation?
	And note that what he's suggesting is attacking Iranian oil refineries.
	Let's look at that.
	Well, for every Israeli or American hostage executed by Hamas, we should take down an Iranian oil refinery.
	The only way you're going to keep this war from escalating is to hold Iran accountable.
	How much more death and destruction do we have to take?
	Okay, so that's very incendiary rhetoric.
	I am confident this was planned and funded by the Iranians.
	Hamas is a bunch of animals who deserve to be treated like animals. So if I
	was Israel I would go in on the ground, there is no truce to be had here, I
	would dismantle Hamas.
	Okay so that's very incendiary rhetoric and when you hear that do you feel that
	what's being proposed is support for Israel or is this the kind of
	exploitation of crises that we've experienced both in the Russia-Ukraine
	conflict and perhaps throughout American military history, certainly in the last
	50 years.
	What appears to be behind Lindsey Graham's rhetoric there?
	Because we've noted a lot of exploitation.
	of this situation in the last few days. Unusual Wales, the ex-account or Twitter account,
	you have to always say formerly Twitter don't you, because otherwise people don't know what
	you're talking about, has aggregated a list of stocks that US politicians benefit personally from
	with regard to the Israel-Hamas war as well as the Ukraine war. Let's have a look at that now.
	breaking. US politicians are benefiting personally from the Israel-Hamas war as well as the Ukraine
	war. I've aggregated a list of their stocks like Raytheon, Lockheed Martin etc. They're making
	millions as the war continues. Because it is such a complex conflict and it's so difficult isn't it
	to find a way to speak about it without harming already grieving people. We're focusing on the
	exploitation that's taking place.
	Look at the astonishing number of people that have stocks and shares in weapons manufacturers.
	You'll note Nancy Pelosi, former Speaker of the House, and I sort of mention her only really because Tommy Tuberville, I can't even believe it's a real person, it's such a crazy name, and like Nancy Pelosi was always sort of offered to us as a very idealistic politician, And yet it seems that she does.
	And let me know, do you agree that Nancy Pelosi appears to be benefiting from some of the most egregious and dreadful geopolitical situations?
	Yeah, Asha Ella says yes and I think a lot of us feel the same way.
	One of the challenges we have now is a total loss of moral authority in all of our institutions.
	Whether that's the legacy media, who trusts them anymore?
	The state?
	The corporatist state?
	How can we ever again open-heartedly feel that we can be allied together in Adventures or misadventures that are governed and directed by people that are financially benefiting from the most tragic, sad situations on the planet.
	And yet, when it comes to misinformation and disinformation, it's not the establishment that are held to account, it's independent media and ordinary people.
	When they talk about misinformation and disinformation, and we're going into this in some depth later in the show, they generally speaking don't mean, you know, we the government should be telling the truth and throughout the pandemic we made many errors and here's a full reckoning now, let's get up to date with what we said and what we should have said.
	No, they mean we want the ability to censor and surveil you and shut down dissenting voices.
	Curiously, Joe Biden has just joined Truth Social, you know, Donald Trump's social media platform.
	It seems to be midway between a kind of prank, that prankster Joe Biden, that gadabout, that Johnny Knoxville of Capitol Hill Joe Biden, and also a sort of an attempt to control misinformation.
	Let's have a look at that.
	Biden is bringing his campaign to Trump's social media platform, Truth Social.
	The campaign says it's in an effort to meet voters, quote, where they are.
	Biden campaign officials say they'll inject their message on the platform to combat misinformation about the president.
	The campaign's handle is at Biden HQ, its first post reading, quote, let's see how this goes.
	Converts welcome.
	He's in for a rough ride, I'd say, on Truth Social.
	And again, when it comes to misinformation and disinformation, wouldn't you feel a lot more open to trusting and advocating for censorship if, for example, Joe Biden had ever addressed the misinformation around Russiagate, the Hunter Biden laptop story, repression?
	And the plethora, the almost limitless number of fake news stories of untrue propagandized and weaponized pieces of information throughout the pandemic period.
	It's astonishing now to see that Pfizer have acknowledged that myocarditis and pericarditis for certain demographics are a risk if you take their products.
	To me it's just that's something that if you said it I mean I don't know if you can say it now on YouTube I guess we'll find out we're already demonetized what have we got to lose so but a little while ago you simply couldn't say that let's have a look at what their new position is.
	COVID-19 vaccines show increased risk of myocarditis, which is inflammation of the heart, pericarditis, inflammation of the line outside the heart, particularly in the first week following vaccination.
	You just were not allowed to say that.
	Do you remember?
	The world is changing really quickly.
	And until misinformation and disinformation becomes a two-way street, it simply has to be regarded as a weapon of the establishment to shut down dissent invoices.
	The observed risk is highest in males, 12 through 17 and they recommended that age group take those meds pretty feverishly.
	Now do you want to see Albert Baller demanding that people that propagate misinformation be treated as criminals?
	Tell me in the chat just post why if you want to see that.
	Or do you want to straight away go to an elderly lady hurling herself out of an aeroplane?
	You want to see that, right?
	Do you want to see Albert Bourla?
	Let's see Albert Bourla and then I'll ask you if you want to see an elderly lady hurling herself out of an aeroplane.
	Let's have a look at Albert Bourla saying that misinformation is a criminal offence.
	And he'd know.
	And I understand it.
	And they don't want to take chances.
	But there is a very small part of professionals which they circulate on purpose misinformation
	so that they will mislead.
	Who do you think are the people that circulated misinformation on purpose?
	Who are the people that repressed true information on purpose?
	And whilst myocarditis and pericarditis current findings at least convey might affect a small percentage of the population, it's likely they had access to that data long before it was shared there.
	We've covered that story already.
	You can see that if you're an awakened wonder right now or you can watch it on Rumble in its entirety.
	Of course, we can't post those things in their entirety on YouTube for obvious reasons and if those reasons aren't obvious, it's that the YouTube use WHO guidelines in order to regulate their community.
	A few comments from you lot.
	Ashley says, finally, I've been waiting for this episode forever.
	Firegirl 2020.
	No shortage of Warhawks.
	Ellen Sophia says they say support Ukraine, but they mean give money for weapons.
	Okay, so there you are.
	We're talking generally, broadly about misinformation and disinformation.
	We're talking to Asim Malhotra a little later in the show.
	He's an incredible orator on a variety of the subjects and our item here's the news uh it comprises an in-depth look at
	the many censorship measures that are covering the world right now you'll love that do you want
	to see uh like if Pfizer's stocks gone down as a result of this is that true should we have a
	little look at that yes have a look Pfizer are making some headlines over the weekend after slashing
	full year revenue guidance by 13% on Friday the pharmaceutical giant said that dwindling
	demand for COVID-19 vaccines and treatments were responsible for the updated guidance plus
	this was uh kind of the miracle vaccine that people were waiting for back in 2020 but I
	guess the the answer is now that people aren't worried about this there's a lot more natural
	immunity What is even news, for God's sake?
	Hey, listen, do you want to see now a story that's... Yeah, COVID sales.
	It's shocking, isn't it, Firegirl?
	Do you want to see a story that's presented in that kind of end of the news, light-hearted story manner, but a key detail is missed?
	Let me know.
	Press Y in the chat if you can, if you want to see this, or If you want to move straight on to here's the news, press now.
	It's just a flurry, an endless flurry of whys.
	It's like talking to my five-year-old.
	This is an amazing story.
	Dorothy Hoffner made history just weeks ago when she became the oldest woman in the world to go skydiving at 104 years old.
	Now note this is presented in a very sort of upbeat and positive way and then sort of out of nowhere the story is intersected by a Well, it can only be described as a tragic detail.
	Let's have a look.
	Dorothy Hoffner made history just a few days ago as the oldest woman in the world to go skydiving.
	Ah, brilliant.
	I mean, the G-force on her face is adorable.
	It's so lovely.
	Brilliant.
	What a great tale.
	Something to be positive about in this all-pervasive, omni-crisis where all we hear is war, horror, authoritarianism, fractured hearts, broken people, corruption and lies.
	It's lovely to see a little old lady leaping out of a plane.
	Brilliant.
	That's really put a smile on my face.
	Jumping out of an airplane at the ripe old age of 104.
	Brilliant.
	Perhaps there's hope for humanity after all.
	Who's to stop us?
	If Dorothy can do it, I can do it.
	Sadly, Dorothy died over the weekend in her sleep.
	Oh, brilliant.
	Great.
	Well, it's probably killed her, and it should never have gone skydiving.
	What's the point in taking a risk?
	We're all doomed.
	What's the bloody point?
	Oh, Dorothy.
	Why'd you do it, Dorothy?
	Why didn't they tell us that at the beginning?
	Don't make me love Dorothy and then tell me that Dorothy's dead!
	I've just fallen in love with her.
	Days after her thrilling final weep from the sky.
	That's what killed her!
	Dorothy lived through the great depression.
	We gave her a few Pfizer jabs on the way down to make sure she wasn't at risk of getting any airborne viruses.
	...and the COVID-19 pandemic.
	And those closest to her say... Look at them shoes.
	I don't think she should have been wearing them.
	Look at them little dolly shoes.
	A little patent slip-on when you're landing.
	Nah, that's inadvisable.
	It's either that or irresponsible use of meds that's taken dear Dorothy out.
	God rest her eternal flying soul.
	Ever lost a beat?
	Some of our residents are 20 or 30 years younger than her, and she had more energy than... Why are we still talking about Dorothy?
	Dorothy's gone!
	We're going to have to let her go.
	Ah, Dorothy, we hardly knew you.
	Now, listen.
	The legacy media is advocating for dissenting voices to be shut down everywhere.
	Legislation is being passed across the globe, the EU, Canada, our country, the UK, Ireland, all passing draconian measures of their own to prevent you from communicating freely.
	Of course, it's always introduced with perfectly reasonable ideas like...
	Banning hate speech, or monitoring hate speech, or regulating or curtailing hate speech, and preventing child pornography.
	All things that any sensible right-minded person would want to end.
	But note we already have laws for those things.
	what we don't currently have laws for is curtailing, foreclosing and utterly controlling our ability
	to communicate openly. Put simply, it's become necessary to create centralised authoritarian
	systems as the trend towards decentralisation afforded to us by immediate communication
	and new possibilities for personal and community organisation become accessible to the world's
	population through miraculous technology.
	technology like this through platforms like Rumble and to a degree X. All of these platforms are now
	under attack. So let's learn a little bit about the Digital Services Act. Let's learn a little
	bit about what they're up to in Ireland.
	How will your favourite podcast be affected and controlled by this legislation?
	Is it possible that, in Canada at least, the information of who's listening to a podcast would be handed over to the government if they request it?
	In Ireland, the police will have the ability to come into your house and take your laptop.
	In France, they're gonna be able to turn on microphones on your phone, which a lot of us think they've been doing for a long time anyway.
	Let me know in the chat if you think that's the case.
	This is Here's the news.
	being legislated for. What Edward Snowden revealed they were doing that was against
	the law, they've solved that problem now. Why? How? By changing the bloody law. Here's
	the news. No, here's the effing news.
	Joe Rogan notes that Canada is controlling podcasts in an unprecedented way.
	And you know the government wrote to YouTube about demonetizing this channel.
	So what do we do about this global crackdown on free speech?
	And who are we going to say anything to?
	Joe Rogan notes the Canadian situation where podcasts are being controlled in extraordinary ways under some sort of patriotic hue extraordinarily is to promote Canadian content and to control all content the EU has written to Elon Musk in a sort of weird threatening bureaucratic gangster way saying he better control his platform otherwise they'll control their platform for him and you know that the British government literally wrote to all social media platforms demanding they demonetize our content So what's happening with this globalist crackdown on free speech?
	What are they afraid of?
	What are they trying to stop?
	And what are we going to do together to oppose them?
	Let's have a look first of all at Joe Rogan talking about new Canadian censorship laws that allow them to control podcasts in ways that are extraordinary and even know who's listening to particular podcasts.
	I don't know how this kind of legislation keeps getting passed and we're continually told it's like for the good of free speech and it's somehow liberal.
	It's not liberal to try and control everyone and everything all the time.
	They're regulating podcasts in Canada.
	They then want them to hand over information about their content and the people listening.
	You can't have... That's dictatorship stuff.
	That's what that is.
	It's Banana Republic stuff.
	We've talked about that raft of legislation in Canada and the various other ways that they're trying to create some sort of bizarre new brave new tyranny by censorship and revoking people's licenses to practice psychotherapy.
	Obviously Jordan Peterson's who I specifically mean there as well as new measures that allow banks to kick people out.
	I mean it's just all extraordinary and it's not happening in a sort of disparate and isolated way.
	Seems concerted.
	Do you think this is coordinated?
	How do you think these things happen?
	Do you think they come from centralist organisations?
	How do these new legislature get simultaneously passed in concert?
	How is it happening?
	Let me know in the chat.
	The European Commissioner for the Internal Market, Thierry Breton, has sent letters to Mark Zuckerberg of Meta and Elon Musk at X demanding they comply with the EU's sweeping new internet regulation, the Digital Services Act.
	It's sweeping.
	Good afternoon.
	As the war in Israel and Gaza is playing out right now in real time across social media, experts are telling us that bad information and propaganda are spreading on X. Bad information and propaganda are spreading on X.
	That was bad intelligence.
	Very bad intelligence.
	I'm sorry.
	Do you believe that they mean bad information and propaganda, or do you think it's possible they mean information they'd prefer you not to have access to, potentially because it gives you ammunition for critiques against establishment interests?
	Do you think that the role of the legacy media is to amplify and normalise the agenda of the powerful, and the problem they have In large part.
	with social media is that it can't be meaningfully regulated
	because attractive, appealing, well-put counter-narratives, whether they're true or not true,
	can succeed in online spaces.
	I don't think they care about truth.
	I think they care about control.
	In large part, formerly known as Twitter, of course.
	We all have to say formerly known.
	We can't get into the habit of just saying X.
	Now, the research group Aletheia detected a network of at least 67 accounts that posted false content
	about the war, and they've gotten millions of views.
	and researchers have not identified who is behind these accounts.
	Another way that the current escalating conflict in the Middle East is being exploited is with calls for censorship.
	Any crisis that occurs will now be utilized to create authoritarian measures, to create a climate where authoritarianism is required, and then to sort of pass laws.
	This happens all the time now.
	We've recognized this system.
	That used to be almost a kind of conspiracy theorist's gambit and analysis.
	Now it's just, well, like, it's just like gravity.
	It's just a law that you watch continually.
	There's this crisis, therefore we're gonna have to do these things where you sort of have to suffer under new legislation and ultimately we get more authority.
	It's always what happens.
	If you noticed that, let me know in the chat.
	And this of course comes after Elon Musk, the owner of X, laid off much of the team, the trust and safety team responsible for monitoring posts when he took over the company.
	That trust and safety team were all from the FBI and CIA.
	It's like the Twitter files never happened.
	They didn't report on that Twitter file stuff at all.
	They just ignored it.
	Such an amazing story.
	Hey, look, the CIA and the FBI are literally paying money.
	They're infiltrating.
	They're controlling this information.
	Presumably, they're doing that at Legacy Media.
	They're certainly doing it at Face.
	Just no one talks about it.
	So what is that?
	You know, Joe Rogan's taking some cough medicine I don't agree with.
	Let's go!
	Blanket coverage!
	Anything that's potentially affords and enables further centralized control of information.
	They will throw resources at it.
	They'll investigate to the ends of the earth throughout time like Doctor Who.
	But stuff that's genuinely interesting and potentially disruptive to the interests of powerful.
	I don't know about that.
	Seems a bit prurient to go looking into people's private affairs.
	Now, is anyone, anywhere, taking any horse paste at all?
	Right, send another few investigators for that one.
	There's Armageddon coming.
	Oh, I don't mind about that.
	Now, earlier this week, the European Union sent a public and quite harshly worded letter to the billionaire.
	Harshly worded letters are getting sent places.
	What is this, 1920?
	Dear sir or madam, or dare I say, ex.
	About, quote, repurposed old images of unrelated armed conflicts or military footage that actually originated from video games on X. This has been cherry-picked, hasn't it?
	They've found an example.
	Of course, all over social media sites, we all know this.
	Anyone who goes online knows that there's a good deal of misinformation.
	We're not questioning, actually, whether there's misinformation or not.
	There is.
	What we're questioning is who do you want to be in charge of your relationship with all sources of information, and who do you want determining what qualifies as misinformation and disinformation?
	Do you want it to be the same people and institutions that have Why on earth would you say, let's put the people behind that in charge of what we can say to one another?
	2008, 2019 onwards have used every single crisis to create more difficult conditions for ordinary people.
	Energy crisis, subsidized energy companies, more profit for energy companies,
	wars, military industrial complex profits, health crisis, pharmacological profits
	for pharmaceutical companies.
	Why on earth would you say, let's put the people behind that
	in charge of what we can say to one another?
	They're plainly absolutely delightful.
	They asked Musk to immediately remove that what they call illegal content and disinformation
	They asked Musk to immediately remove that, what they call illegal content and disinformation.
	Otherwise penalties can be imposed on the Silicon Valley Valley company now must turn around and he asked the EU to
	Otherwise penalties can be imposed on the Silicon Valley company.
	Now Musk turned around and he asked the EU to please list the violations that they're alluding to.
	please list the Violations that they're alluding to he said quote. I still
	He said, quote, I still don't know what they're talking about.
	don't know what they're talking about Now X formerly Twitter, of course
	Now X, formerly Twitter, of course.
	That's the only accurate bit of news that they're doing said it already has removed
	Hamas affiliated accounts and several hundred accounts as of Monday and we've been pressing all of the major social
	media platforms including Facebook
	TikTok and snap and they all say they've increased their resources
	So the legacy media are hassling social media to regulate themselves more rigorously all the while not acknowledging
	that Legacy media is in total crisis because of the emergence of
	these platforms There is no way that you can have objective reporting on independent media or any figure within independent media from the legacy media.
	And now to comment on Burger King's burgers, it's Ronald McDonald.
	What do you think of their burgers, Ronald?
	Well, I think they're shitting them!
	Don't trust him.
	He's got a dog in the fight.
	And maybe even in the burger.
	Right, kids?
	In various languages to fight this disinformation, it's an ongoing battle, but experts are also telling us that they expect this to get worse and continue to escalate as this conflict continues.
	Of course they do.
	Of course they frame it as a battle.
	Of course they expect it to get worse.
	Because if it was just, oh, let's just leave it and let people work out for themselves what's true, then they don't have the ability to control anymore.
	They pretend it's about safety.
	It's about control.
	They pretend it's about convenience.
	It's about control.
	They pretend it's about anything.
	It's about control.
	It will always be about control.
	What they do is control.
	There's no reason to trust these institutions, whether it's the legacy media or the state, when it comes to our welfare.
	They're not your friend.
	They're your enemy.
	I would imagine it would.
	Alright, Jolene Kent, thank you.
	Thanks.
	Thank you.
	Thanks.
	I love you.
	I love you too.
	As well as old-fashioned legacy media where you sort of sit down like an obedient little prisoner at 8pm and eat your dinner on your lap while you're lied to by someone behind a desk, there's also letters.
	Another time-honoured way of communicating to billionaires.
	These are the EU Digital Service Act letters from Thierry Breton.
	Both Breton letters contained passages complaining of platform failure to remove illegal content, a concept that is surely coming to the US soon.
	So, there you go.
	Bureaucracies are now leveraging their power against platforms to remove illegal content.
	In a way, they're posing this, as with the Canadian legislation, as ways of regulating big tech.
	But they're not regulating big tech.
	They're regulating you.
	They're using their control over big tech to control information on platforms.
	And of course they'll start by saying it's hate speech, or child pornography, or things that anyone would agree should be mediated, softened, removed altogether, in order to control information as they've already done.
	done during the pandemic and the Hunter Biden laptop affair to control narratives that are
	harmful to their agenda. You know that already, but let me know in the chat if you think we're
	going in the right direction with this stuff. This is from that letter. When you receive notices of
	illegal content in the EU, you must be timely, diligent and effective in taking action and
	removing the relevant content when warranted. We have from qualified services reports of
	potentially illegal content circulating on your service.
	Very Kafkaesque.
	Very bureaucratic.
	The weaponisation of bureaucracies.
	From a haughty and supercilious position of presumed righteousness.
	As if the rest of the world looks at the EU and goes, those are the guys.
	Those are the guys we trust to run reality for us.
	Bretton advertised his ultimatum to both firms, tweeting that he wrote Musk because following the terrorist attacks by Hamas, we have indications of X being used to disseminate illegal content and disinformation, while to Zuckerberg he claimed the motive involved tackling disinformation in elections in the EU.
	What is the Digital Services Act and how can it help you and I communicate more freely without all this bloody disinformation everywhere that I'm incapable of discerning from my poor, stupid, child-like self as to whether it's true or not?
	Please, somebody intervene and protect me from the internet!
	The world's largest digital companies have nowhere to hide.
	Nowhere to hide?
	What is the dynamic that's being described here, and who is this persecuting force?
	Who is this monotheistic deity, this god, this god the father, that's entrusted with controlling reality?
	We don't have that kind of faith in these institutions.
	I don't like seeing them wobbling like that.
	I don't like it when it happens by accident on my phone, and I don't like it now.
	The EU's Digital Service Act is taking the internet by storm.
	What?
	No, it's not.
	It's not the Beatles.
	It's censorship.
	If the Beatles were around now, they'd ban them, wouldn't they?
	I don't like these guys.
	Psychedelics.
	Drug use.
	Back in the USSR.
	Putin lover!
	Marking the toughest regulations since social media burst onto screens.
	What's these people's attitude to what the internet is?
	The internet, woo!
	It's not pogs, it's not augmented reality.
	We're used to it now.
	Here is Thierry Breton, a French grandmother-looking man threatening Elon Musk as if he's Al Capone.
	The DSR is here.
	Here to protect free speech against arbitrary decisions.
	and at the same time to protect our citizens and democracies against illegal content.
	That's what tyranny looks like now.
	Boring.
	Boring and bureaucratic.
	We need to control these things.
	It's Huxleyan.
	It's Kafkaesque.
	We've been warned in literature.
	The collective consciousness of our kind and our genii has been telling us that this centralised authoritarianism was on its way and now it's arrived.
	It's not melodramatic, militaristic and theatrical like the barbaric dictatorships of the last century.
	It's dull and anodyne.
	But no, what we are going to do is if we think that something is bad, we will just prevent you from seeing it.
	Well, look at what's packed into that.
	We know better than you, you're sort of a bit like a child, you trust us to make these decisions.
	No, no, no.
	If you're watching in Europe and own a smartphone, which probably applies to everyone, then you're going to start noticing changes over the next few months, with new safety, verification and consent features.
	What?
	Imposed by whom?
	On what basis?
	Under what mandate?
	During which election was it discussed?
	When did we get to choose?
	Look at what's happening.
	Just drifting towards tyranny.
	There are so many crises continually happening.
	So much desperation.
	Such a void of spiritual values that we're unable to go, do you really want this?
	The DSA will force companies with over 45 million monthly users like Google, YouTube and Instagram to clean up its act in terms of its content moderation, user privacy and transparency.
	But this laundry list is still unclear over free speech.
	Yes, that's curious that that's opaque, isn't it?
	That they're clear about many aspects of the bill, but when it comes to Article 33, free speech, suddenly it becomes quite mysterious, vague and open to interpretation.
	I wonder whose interpretation?
	Can't have things like lawful but awful just because it rhymes.
	It's not lawful but it's scoreful, stick it in a drawful, more full of lies.
	Awful is subjective.
	What lawful and awful is about is I'm going to decide what I consider to be awful.
	I think it's awful that Donald Trump might win the election, therefore I think it's lawful to suppress this Hunter Biden laptop story.
	I think it's awful that people might not be subject to authoritarian centralised control, therefore I think it's lawful to claim that this pandemic is worse than it actually is.
	What I think is awful and not lawful is not allowing sentient awakened adults to have democratic purchase and control over their own lives.
	The EU is yet again placing a magnifying glass over the world wide web, but with its rate
	of expansion spiralling out of control.
	It's a weird image isn't it?
	It's a magnifying glass going over the world wide web and it's spiralling out of control.
	I mean that's like sort of migraine language.
	What it actually tells you in all of its metaphorical clumsiness is that this is an uncontrollable space where control has to be legitimized in order to maintain the sort of authority that was once taken for granted by these centralized bureaucracies but not exploited in the manner that it is now because we're not in this kind of late Corporatist nightmare, or at least we weren't then, we are now.
	And this kind of authoritarianism is being utilised, I think, in some sort of nightmarish endgame.
	Let me know in the chat.
	The DSA isn't the first and won't be the last we hear of online safety.
	From our friend Matt Taibbi.
	The Digital Services Act is a grotesque, nakedly authoritarian law, written in language so obnoxious in its pompous inscrutability, that it would have impressed Orwell or Huxley.
	They would have gone like, oh, that's actually rather good!
	Well done!
	Well, thank you, it's just the law.
	No, it's very good.
	Brilliant.
	It's inscrutable.
	We don't know what you mean.
	You're going to use this to control us, aren't you?
	Yes, we probably are.
	Bretton's mention of qualified sources is a reference to the law's most heinous and dystopian portion, the so-called trusted flagger program, which puts a clutch of elitist NGO busybodies in charge of pouring through content to decide for the rabble what is untrue or harmful as a means of defending European norms.
	I might not agree with those people.
	I might see the world entirely differently.
	I might want to make different economic, medical choices for me and for my loved ones and for my community.
	I don't consent to this degree of interventionism.
	Why is this not being communicated?
	Why is this not being discussed?
	Why is this not being opposed?
	Why?
	Because the legacy media, as we can see from this report, sees it as its job to amplify the interests of the powerful.
	In this instance, the EU wants to control digital spaces, as does Canada, as does the UK, as does the US, as does everyone.
	Big tech companies themselves recognise that they're going to have to come to some sort of alliance with government, otherwise they're going to be taxed differently, regulated differently, and they're not going to get those lucrative defence contracts, so they're gonna ultimately comply.
	One of the major subplots of the new censorship industrial complex era, involves the lead role Europe has assumed in
	implementing draconian speech laws, its leaders opining with imperious certainty that its
	restrictive conceptions of speech will be brought to the United States, whether we like it or not.
	Because what qualifies as hate speech, as illegal hate speech, which you will have soon
	also in the US, I think that...
	Calls for greater censorship come at the same time that the Macron government has passed
	the new law allowing police to spy on people by secretly taking control of their phones
	and laptop computers and activating the microphone, camera and GPS.
	Well, at least they've passed a law for it now, rather than just doing it, which is what we all suspect they've been doing for a very long while.
	I, though, am still staggered by that.
	Years after Snowden's revelations, I'm still... Am I an idiot?
	Plainly.
	Like, because I'm... Like, no!
	If they actually just... France!
	Revolutionary France!
	France with its fraternity and its liberté!
	Now it's... I'm taking control of your microphone-té.
	The government says a judge will have to approve all spying.
	Phew!
	What a relief!
	Well done, Gilets Jaunes.
	Your movement and your protests at Black Rock have finally paid off.
	They won't be turning on your microphone unless a judge, who works for the government, approves of their spying.
	Night, then.
	See you in the morning.
	Wait a minute!
	What if we can't trust anyone?
	But it is reasonable to worry about abuses of power.
	I'd say.
	In 2013, military contractor Edward Snowden revealed massivist government spying without a warrant.
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	What's more, the attack on privacy and the demand for censorship is worldwide.
	The British Parliament has passed legislation that will allow the government to spy on private and encrypted text messages.
	They're doing this right now.
	I mean, God, oh no!
	The Irish Senate is expected to pass legislation that will allow the police to enter homes without a warrant and search phones and laptops for evidence of hate speech.
	And Australia is on the cusp of passing a new law that would require social media companies to remove any speech that causes harm to health or the environment.
	Health and the environment.
	That's what people mean by vague.
	Like, on one hand, it seems like, well, yeah, you should be able to harm people's health or harm the environment.
	Agreed, agreed.
	But the environment means everything and health means everything, which would allow government censorship of criticisms of its climate and energy policies.
	But they wouldn't use it like that, would they?
	Of course, the elite's crackdowns wouldn't be happening were the French, Irish and British governments more popular.
	Macron has a 25% approval rating and a 70% disapproval rating.
	Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar has 35% approval and 52% disapproval.
	British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has 31% approval and 59% disapproval rating.
	Mad unpopular leaders making mad unpopular choices.
	There is a psychological explanation for why such leaders might demand greater censorship.
	Politics in general attracts narcissists who have a grandiose view of their own role in history, who feel entitled to great power, and who tend to view themselves as purely good and their political enemies as purely evil.
	Such narcissism is entirely compatible with free speech so long as the political leader is popular.
	As they become less popular and their agenda harder to achieve, they resort to authoritarian measures, as we're seeing around the world.
	Do you know that how, like, sort of leaders like Donald Trump and that dude in Hungary and stuff are described as despotic, demagogues and all that, but these kind of, like, Macron's meant to be the very face of, like, liberalism, but look at the laws they're passing.
	When I spoke to Matt Taibbi, and it's a great interview and you should check it out on Locals, it's up there in full right now.
	We asked, do you think that there will be communities of exiles for free speech in the same way that there are, like, tax exiles around the world?
	He said, oh, it'd be easier to live there, it's cheaper.
	So I said, well, yeah, that's like the way the world is going now.
	But free speech is being turned into a luxury rather than a right.
	To the extent there is coordination on censorship globally, it is happening among elites who prefer a top-down globalist rather than a bottom-up internationalist agenda of governance.
	The opposite of what the trend ought be.
	The possibility now for decentralisation, self-governance, instantaneous communication, consensus achieved immediately over complex and nuanced issues is all being ignored in favour of centralised authoritarianism precisely because the alternative now exists.
	They're legislating against it before it happens.
	So don't lose hope because they are working very hard to prevent you awakening.
	But they cannot stop it.
	Recognising the reality of their unpopularity, they seek to scapegoat social media companies and seek their censorship.
	In order to justify this, elites seek to turn every problem, whether it's riots in Paris, Covid-19 or climate change, into a crisis.
	One that requires the dramatic curtailment of our civil liberties.
	What an important statement Matt Taibbi ends on there.
	Every crisis is used to curtail civil liberties, to advance the agenda of controlling often unelected authoritarian bodies.
	Note this.
	Hold it in mind.
	Use it like a scalpel or a tool.
	So when you get the information from the legacy media, you can say, hmm.
	Are they using this now to legitimise authoritarian measures?
	And usually you will find that they actually are, and that they'll use any crisis.
	Even horrific wars, acts of terror, heartbreaking global scenarios that are almost impossible to hold in your mind, to them are merely fodder for advancing authoritarianism.
	And that's at least how it seems to me.
	So whether it's Joe Rogan commenting on what's happening in Canada, Elon Musk being written threatening letters by a French old lady grandma, bureaucrat, or the legacy media normalising these measures.
	What we have is a global agenda, EU, Australia, Canada, UK, coming soon in the US, in Ireland, abilities to turn on microphones.
	If this was some bizarre militaristic dude with like a bunch of medals on proposing this, you would be aghast.
	Just imagine, imagine for a minute that this was all Donald Trump.
	Imagine that you could attribute all this to Donald Trump.
	Donald Trump wants to turn on Mike.
	You'd be like, oh my God, it's true.
	It's true.
	That guy, he's a lunatic.
	Let's get together.
	But it's not.
	It's all the haircut people.
	Macron, Trudeau, Rishi Sunak, oh hi, look at us, we're modern, hey.
	No values, no morality.
	Puppets for a system that wants to centralise control, particularly control of surveillance and censorship through big tech apparatus that previously didn't exist.
	But that's just what I think!
	Why don't you let me know what you think in the chat?
	society be used to create potential utopias. Decentralized but unified
	opposition to this globalist march is what we're proposing and that is simply
	what we must have. But that's just what I think why don't you let me know what
	you think in the chat. See you in a second.
	So there you have it whether it's in Canada through new legislation or the EU
	trying to silence me and you or the US with new proposed legislation.
	In fact, let's not get ahead of it, that's not happening in the US yet, but how long before it does happen in the US?
	Sorry I'm distracted, it's because I've got to deal with this little guy.
	Now, one person who's likely to be subject to some pretty imperious and haughty judgment will be friend of the show, outspoken medic, medical doctor, campaigner, activist, and now filmmaker, Dr. Asim Malhotra.
	Asim, I'm so happy to see you.
	I'm even more happy to see you, mate.
	Thank you so much for joining us.
	I really wanted to get your perspective, first of all, on the medical knowledge is under commercial control.
	I understand that's due to the way that fact checkers who are presented as objective are actually funded.
	And also I'd love to get your perspective on what you think about this new,
	like these various new censorship laws that are being passed around the world.
	But go on, Asim, please tell me what you think about the fact checkers,
	because I guess that intersects with censorship because it's ultimately about the control of information.
	What information is amplified, what information is controlled.
	So on the fact checker stuff, interestingly, Russell, I'm currently in the United States in Boston.
	But I met someone in California recently at a social event who's actually quite senior in Meta.
	And what they were telling me was essentially that the information that's coming out through Meta is carefully curated.
	It is influenced by financial relationships that Meta has.
	For example, not many people may be aware of this, but in 2021, Meta joined in partnership, putting in $20 million with drug company Merck to help control health information on their platform.
	So what that means is, when we get these flags coming up, and I've had it on my Instagram, for example, saying that independent fact checkers have, you know, judged that this is breaching community guidelines and is, you know, you're spreading false information.
	That line, independent fact checkers, is a complete and total lie.
	And that has now been verified to me personally from someone senior in META.
	So I think everybody needs to know that.
	But coming back to what you said earlier about medical knowledge being under commercial control, Russell, That should be at the forefront of every doctor's minds and it's not.
	And this has been an issue even pre-pandemic and what do I mean by this?
	Just to give you some sort of bigger-picture figures here, you know, John Ioannidis is someone who I refer to as a Stephen Hawking-like figure of medicine.
	He's the most cited medical researcher in the world.
	He's a professor of medicine at Stanford.
	And in 2006, he published a paper which was entitled, Why Most Published Research Findings are False.
	And he said, the greater the financial interest in a given field, the less likely the research findings are to be true.
	What does that mean?
	In effect, doctors are making clinical decisions quite often, maybe most of the time, when it comes to prescription drugs on biased and corrupted information, where drug companies control the information that doctors get.
	The doctors believe the information they're getting has been independently vetted and verified, and that is completely false.
	So one of the barriers to improving the system is actually raising awareness amongst doctors that they need to be skeptical about what they read in medical journals.
	I interviewed recently, Dr. Fiona Godley, editor of the BMJ.
	She was quite open about this.
	Now, it's something that's kind of a fact and should be well known, but it isn't properly acknowledged.
	We have to understand that medical journals are also businesses.
	But many doctors rely on medical journals as being like the gospel truth when it comes to sort of medical science, for example.
	So once people start to understand these system failures, then it We can help.
	It can help us, one, create solutions moving forward so we have greater transparency, we have better information.
	We then improve quality care for patients and we improve people's health.
	It's really not rocket science.
	I'm astonished.
	And if it were rocket science, it would be biased rocket science, where the financial interest of whether it was a viable commercial mission would be what determined whether it was undertaken or not.
	Now, I think we all understand that there are commercial imperatives behind most aspects of life, but there is something fundamental here hypocritical and anti-hypocratic in pharmaceutical industry
	having the kind of incentives it does.
	I'm astonished to hear that, that there's almost a equation that can be made. The higher the
	financial incentive, the less likely the information is to be viable. And I can't believe what you've
	just conveyed, that Merck and Meta combined in order to create a factory.
	Checking organization that can't get even to the end of the sentence that is a fact check without telling you a lie
	It's not an independent fact. I mean, it's just Extraordinary that that's getting normalized. I feel like
	in a sense a scene where we find ourselves is the kind of discourse that you might find among conspiracy theorists is
	Or like, you know, just people that have been condemned online people that have been shared shamed is aside from
	this Let's take hate speech out of the picture because no one
	agrees with hate speech. It has mental We have laws for that that craziness should be dismissed.
	But when it comes to like people that Cynical about the kind of drugs that they're taking.
	Cynical about the incentives of pharmaceutical companies.
	That's closer to the reality than the sort of ordinary neoliberal perspective that we're invited to convey.
	And if we, uh, to accept, excuse me, when we, and it also shows the importance of independent media, because independent media is the only way you're going to get to attack these kind of narratives, and increasingly independent media is being shut down, and I know that you've, uh, Suffered yourself as a result of that.
	Now, when America spends a significant portion of its GDP on healthcare and has bad health outcomes, what does that tell us?
	What's happening with that expenditure?
	Is it comparable to the military-industrial complex, which seems to require war in order to sustain its model?
	Does America need Americans to be unhealthy to be economically efficient for the industries that ultimately fund and govern much of American policy?
	Great question, Russell.
	I think the first thing I'd say is very interesting.
	So yesterday, I interviewed John Abramson, a lecturer at Harvard.
	He's been involved in more drug litigation cases than probably any doctor on the planet.
	And he wrote a book called Sickening How Big Pharma Broke American Healthcare.
	And what he said to me was quite interesting.
	He said that America has really shown it's been a natural experiment At the extreme end of what happens when you commercialize medical knowledge.
	And look at what's happened, as you said already.
	It's the highest expenditure in wealthy countries when it comes to GDP on healthcare, with the worst health outcomes.
	They're losing years off their life expectancy, even pre-pandemic.
	They've lost at least two years off their life expectancy by 2019.
	They've got more people with chronic disease in any Western country.
	So their health is getting worse.
	And that really is a great example of what happens when you allow drug companies, as you've alluded to already, big corporations whose only interest is profit, not to give the best treatment, to control the information.
	And what that means exaggerating the safety and benefits of their drugs.
	And just for people to understand this in a bit more depth, One estimate from a very prestigious, eminent scientist called Dr. Peter Gerscher, co-founder of the Cochrane Collaboration, a few years ago, he said that the third most common cause of death globally after heart disease and cancer is prescribed medications.
	What your doctor prescribes for you because of those very reasons.
	So I think those absolutely are at the heart of the problem.
	And I think that also comes back to this neoliberal economic model you mentioned.
	I think the roots of where the acceleration of these problems have started actually is from this neoliberal economic model that was promulgated by Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher.
	And Milton Friedman, as you know, Russell, the Nobel Prize-winning economist who was the brainchild behind that, he in effect said that in the book The Corporation written by law professor Joel Buchan.
	He said it is immoral He said it is immoral for big corporations to put people before profits.
	Think about that for a second.
	If you've got that kind of culture and mindset within business, it helps explain why we are where we are.
	And of course, we've even seen that come out with, you know, being exposed probably to the greatest level we will ever see with the mandating of the COVID mRNA vaccines.
	In a way you are one of those like we've been speaking for a while we've been speaking since early in the pandemic and in a way you you were a cardiologist as I understand your father was a cardiologist your conversion your your father was a GP, that your conversion has been a very
	sort of personal and very public one and like any professional in
	the field of medicine or law there's a kind of a requirement that you have some
	faith in these institutions and the body of knowledge and the legitimacy
	of those bodies. How is it?
	What has been your process from like being someone that would be able to appear on legacy media and talk in alignment with let's call it the agenda of these institutions to someone that's now regarded as a radical outsider and often attacked and that there are attempts to shut you down and aspects of your work that we'll talk about in more detail.
	What's changed?
	Have you changed or has the world changed?
	What's happened?
	Because I've had, in a sense, a comparable journey from someone on the inside of the entertainment industry to someone that's an outsider and then a pariah.
	So, like, can you tell me what exactly do you think's happened?
	Yeah, Russell.
	So my values haven't changed.
	I mean, I was, you know, I'm very proud to be a doctor.
	I was trained in the NHS.
	I qualified from Edinburgh Medical School.
	I'm obsessed with medical ethics.
	I was brought up by two wonderful, loving parents who've sadly passed in the last few years, both doctors who instilled into me a value that my primary duty was service to the community, not for personal financial gain.
	So this is who I am at my core anyway.
	But of course, I went into a profession which I think, I would like to think epitomizes those values.
	And in fact, you know, in the late 90s, after the cash for questions scandal, an inquiry that was put forward by john major, Lead by Lord Nolan, guidelines came out for all those in public life should adhere to something called the seven Nolan principles.
	So these are politicians, doctors, teachers, the police, and those seven principles are always at the heart of everything I do.
	Selflessness, objectivity, integrity, accountability, honesty, openness, and leadership.
	So I've always adhered to that I have a, you know, a very special interest in how to optimize people's mental, physical and social well being.
	That's what the definition of health really is.
	It was actually, you know, defined originally by the World Health Organization in 1948.
	That's before they got captured by the corporations.
	And I also look at it from my own perspective as well, Russell.
	We go through our own journeys.
	I also, for myself, someone who wants to lead the best possible life I can lead by optimising those three facets of health, I look inwardly as well.
	And what I've seen happen over the last few years, certainly during the pandemic, is that the world seems to have been more under the influence of these corporations.
	So I think, you know, one of the things I've talked about to help people understand the determinants of health is a concept which is a derivation from the commercial determinants of health, which is defined as, you know, commercial determinants of health is basically strategies and approaches adopted by the private sector To promote products and choices that are damaging or detrimental to health.
	That's what the definition is in public health.
	I would go further and say, actually, what's happening quite often is that these big powerful corporations, in order to make money, are actually behaving like psychopaths.
	And this comes from Robert Hare, forensic psychologist.
	So if you think about what does that mean?
	Callous and concern for the safety of others, incapacity to experience guilt, deceitfulness, lying and conning others for profit.
	And that's what we are now experiencing.
	But it's not just about how it affects our health.
	We have created a culture that has corporatized human beings as well, Russell.
	So what does that mean when we look inwardly?
	We also have to think about what does it mean to be human?
	And you can't lead the good and happy life unless you act from a place of virtue.
	I know you understand this very well.
	And it's also acknowledging about the fact that, you know, I think the line between good and evil runs through every human heart.
	And in the right circumstances, as Jordan Peterson has very eloquently pointed out, you know, potentially all of us could be that, you know, concentration camp guard, potentially in the right circumstances.
	We have to acknowledge that we have the capacity to do great harm, but at the same time, we also have the capacity to do great good.
	And I think once people reach inwardly, and we have this discussion more openly, we can activate everybody to shift over from the dark side to the lighter side to, you know, paraphrase something from maybe Star Wars.
	Covered a lot of territory there.
	It's interesting, we ended up at Star Wars, Asim, as we always must.
	I'm going to drag Eric Schmidt back into this conversation, whose binary models were based on the convenience and power of having an othered group in order to create authority.
	As long as you have an in-group and an out-group, you're able to mobilize and utilize hatred.
	It's peculiar to observe this incremental encroachment on our values because of course many people, and our viewers will be aware of this, this is why it's important we have independent media and it's important that we have conversations like this.
	You will know people that read stuff in the legacy media and believe it, that feel that really what happened in the pandemic period was people were trying their best, there were one or two slip-ups, but now increasingly it seems that what's being revealed is a degree of Institutional corruption?
	Deception?
	Here, just let me give you a few examples, Asim, that I know you'll be familiar with.
	Matt Taibbi's recent revelations that Anthony Fauci potentially was deliberately biasing many reports that coming out of the CIA and numerous other agencies about the origin of the virus.
	Pfizer's recent press release around myocarditis, particularly in certain demographics, if you
	imagine for a moment that the information that can be openly discussed now could be
	open, could have been openly discussed at the beginning of the pandemic, instead of
	censored, instead of controlled, we could have had entirely different outcomes.
	It's seeming now increasingly ridiculous that Anthony Fauci was presented as the voice of
	objectivity, a kind of Willy Wonka of science, or by his own declaration, a kind of embodiment
	and epitomisation of science.
	I'm citing his remarks to Rand Paul in that Congressional hearing.
	We've learned so much, things have changed so much, and yet so many people are on the other side of a line, believing it's possible to trust legacy media, to trust these institutions, to grant more authoritarian powers of control.
	To whether it's the EU advancing censorship as we discussed in our item just now, or any government nation or unelected bodies.
	The proposed WHO treaty for future pandemics is on the horizon right now.
	Can you touch on a few of those ideas that in a sense are snowballing, awakening the accumulation now of a body of evidence that makes it simply impossible for us to blithely or blindly trust these institutions that are plainly lying to us?
	Yeah, I think, you know, what's happened in the last few years, Russell, and what's continuing to happen is that people were gripped by very strong psychological fear type phenomenon.
	With the original COVID pandemic, you know, we all had those, I think, feelings, most of us certainly had those feelings of fear at the very beginning when we didn't know what we were dealing with.
	And what happens when you're in a state of fear is two things happen.
	One is it inhibits your ability to engage in critical thinking.
	But also it meets populations and people more compliant.
	And of course, that allows governments to exert their power in an even stronger way.
	I think mistakes were made.
	I think we alluded to this.
	I don't think that, you know, conspiracies occasionally come true.
	But I think this was really a massive cock-up.
	And it was exploited by a system that was already, I would say, anti-democratic and a system, certainly when it comes to health, that was not looking after people's mental and social well-being.
	And now we're having to deal with the end result of it.
	Having said that, You know, I think that there has been.
	And Russell, you're somebody that I think is extremely articulate and very powerful with your words, not just in terms of the intellect behind what you say, but also the compassion that comes through.
	I think that it only takes a few people to be dedicated to spreading the truth for it to emerge.
	And we have lost, to some degree, that ability through the mainstream media to get these messages out.
	And we're having to use alternative media.
	But it's having a huge impact.
	And we can see, to some degree, that impact from the fact that when you look at the issue around COVID boosters, for example, there's very, very low uptake now.
	I mean, we're talking about single digit percentage figures here.
	So I think that we just have to keep moving forward.
	And I also take a philosophical view of all of this.
	I met Robert Kennedy Jr.
	at the end of last year.
	And I'm doing a talk with him at the end of this month in San Jose.
	And he said something which resonated with me.
	He said, when you speak the truth, you have to let go of the outcome.
	And but having said that, I think that we just have to keep moving forward.
	And I think this corporate tyrannical bubble will burst.
	And one day we'll wake up in the morning and think, bloody hell, you know, we didn't expect that to happen so quickly, but it will happen.
	We just have to keep moving forward.
	You know, to quote Martin Luther King, you know, if you can't drive, you run.
	If you can't run, you walk.
	If you can't walk, you crawl.
	Just keep moving forward.
	Wow, nice.
	I know that you're appearing at that Reclaiming the Food and Medicine conference with Bobby Kennedy and Vandana Shiva, two people that are former guests of our show.
	Please God, future guests of the show.
	Both, I would say, heroes of this movement.
	Now, Bobby Kennedy, you know, he has some pretty powerful views.
	On this show he spoke about the, you know, that in a sense the vaccine program was a military one.
	Vandana Shiva, like, you know, I've never met anyone who's so willing to go out on a limb when it comes to criticizing the globalist agenda, who'll go out there and literally say that Bill Gates's role is, you know, like she'll use words that I don't feel I'd be able to use to describe the agenda of Bill Gates.
	How do you feel appearing on that platform and this kind of alliance that's emerging this kind of could you call it a resistance movement?
	Does that inspire the kind of optimism that you alluded to in your last answer?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Russell, I feel privileged.
	I feel privileged right now to be speaking to you.
	I feel privileged to have a platform and a role to be able to disseminate, you know, my views on how we can improve people's health and well being and democracy.
	But of course, you know, I think these are massive giants in this movement to reclaim democracy.
	Robert Kennedy, Jr.
	and of course, Vandana Shiva and what the conference is hopefully going to, you know, it's gonna be a five hour event and It's going to cover a lot of areas.
	It's going to get to the root causes of the problems in a rational way.
	It's going to empower people with what they can do to help improve their own health, but also to help them understand that the interaction with the people around them, the communities and policies, are also going to be beneficial for them.
	We don't live in cocoons.
	You can't live a healthy life while the world around you is burning.
	And unfortunately, the rest of the world around is burning.
	But I actually look at it also from a very strategic point of view.
	There's an approach framework that was developed in Thailand called the Triangle that Moves the Mountain.
	And there are three components that need to be strengthened.
	So we move this mountain away from this corporate tyranny to something much brighter and better.
	And that basically means creating relevant knowledge or strengthening the knowledge, dissemination of a greater truth.
	The social movement.
	So that information has to be disseminated to people on the ground.
	That can be through mainstream media, it can be through alternative media, it can be through conversations with friends and family.
	And last but not least, it needs political engagement.
	Because ultimately, what we're dealing with here, the reason we've got to this position, Russell, is because of unjust, unethical, and undemocratic laws that have allowed these big corporations to gain so much power.
	And therefore, the politicians are the ones ultimately to have the power to change those laws.
	So I see this event, in my view, this is perhaps the most important health event this year, in the US, perhaps in the world, to be able to bring all that information together and articulate it in a way that resonates with people on the ground.
	Excellent.
	Tell me a bit about your new documentary, First Do No Farm.
	Nice pun.
	How you've been promoting it on platforms like X and of course Rumble and that I understand Joe Rogan's support in it.
	Can you tell me about the significance in independent media when it comes to promoting anti-establishment ideas?
	I've been fond of saying lately that The role of the media is to amplify and normalize the message of the establishment.
	A kind of simple example of the normalization would of course be the pandemic period.
	They normalized the agenda of the establishment.
	You could even take something like when Facebook or Meta launch a new product like those crazy little glasses that are going to give you an augmented reality experience.
	They report on it like it's news.
	Like, these glasses, they retail at $49.99!
	They present it as if it's news, when they're simply normalising a new product, in just the same way that conventional commercials would work.
	Can you tell me, what is the significance of, like, truly independent figures, and please, may this independence remain, when it comes to promoting anti-establishment ideas?
	How integral is it?
	It's extremely important, Russell.
	I would say I believe in the power of film and documentaries.
	It's another platform to reach people's hearts and minds.
	I co-produced a documentary film several years ago called The Big Fat Fix.
	Many people may not have heard of it, but it had impact because it premiered in British Parliament.
	It influenced sugar reduction policies.
	I was a campaigner considered the lead campaigner behind the sugary drinks tax, and that was a very useful vehicle to get information to policymakers, including people like Jeremy Hunt, Tom Watson, who's a deputy leader of the Labour Party.
	You know, so I see this, and interestingly, by the way, at that time, Russell, and I still hope there's a chance that we get it into mainstream media, but we'll use whatever mechanism of getting out there we can, you know, it was actually covered on BBC World News and the New York Times, when that film was first released.
	We crowdfunded it because we didn't want any commercial influence.
	And we're doing the same thing with this one.
	Currently, crowdfunding still ongoing, we're still about, you know, we're doing filming, we're interviewing some brilliant people, we're still about $350,000 short of target, but hopefully over the next few months, we will get to that we'll get there with with, you know, various big donors coming in.
	I spoke about and Joe Rogan for the first time, Joe said that he's going to promote it when it's out, you know, we're going to try and hit people all around the world.
	I've got a network of politicians in and people all over Whether it's Australia, whether it's UK, whether it's the United States.
	So, you know, for me, once we've produced, my first and primary focus is to produce a brilliant product that's very strong in its message.
	And then it's about hitting the influencers and hitting the mainstream.
	Are you going to do the voice?
	Well, it's going to be either me or it's going to be my co-producer, Donald O'Neill, who's got a very nice, strong Northern Irish accent as well.
	So I think it'll probably be both of us, but we'll see how that goes.
	Be nice to have a combination.
	Maybe you can do some of the on-camera stuff and then use that Northern Irish lilt to get some of the voiceover rocking along.
	Do you feel that when you're crowdfunding for a project like this that is by its very nature at odds with many of the Primary and determining interests in particular of American political life that you might find yourself at odds with the establishment like when you've like talking about that project where you could have a screening in parliament and it's sort of anti-sugar it's like you start to identify where the line might be that there are certain causes that can be promoted and discussed and and of course it changes over time even perhaps the legislation that's been passed in the U.S.
	recently the Anti-Big Pharma Bill so called and so surmised by Joe Biden when you break it down only includes about six medicines.
	It's not kicking in till 2026.
	It's when you get into it something that's presented as a Big Pharma Bill likely had Big Pharma's fingerprints all over it when it came to its creation.
	Likewise, a documentary like your former one where you sort of speak out against sugar and the dangers of sugar, like a message that should be heard for anyone interested in heart disease and cancer and diabetes and the impact of sugar on human health and the fact that it would probably be regarded as a drug if it was, you know, if it was discovered and popularized now.
	You feel like there's a lot more scope to discuss that.
	Are you in a climate where You know you sort of grey zone get a lot of their content demonetized and their own crowdfunding shut down or the trucker protests had you know experienced their funding getting shut down and even the bank accounts of people that donated to that fund were interfered with.
	Do you feel that there's a sort of line that you if you cross it you ain't gonna be having no cozy dinners with politicians you know?
	Yeah, potentially, Russell, but it doesn't stop me from trying.
	And I still believe in the power of conversations.
	And I think most people, again, want to do good, hate injustice, and they want the truth.
	And, you know, I think that there is, unfortunately, an understandable tendency for things to get so polarized that people get very angry and think that people are deliberately trying to harm them.
	I would go back to ancient wisdom of people like Socrates and the Buddha.
	Socrates said, evil is rooted in ignorance.
	And then Stephen Hawking said, well, what's worse, an ignorance, the illusion of knowledge.
	So I think that we can, you know, it needs compassionate courage to have those conversations.
	I still believe the power.
	Interestingly, I won't name this person, but I met recently someone very senior in government when Boris Johnson was prime minister, who is now completely u-turned in their own mind, understanding the problems and the issues about the COVID vaccine and lockdowns, for example.
	But on their own, they kind of feel almost powerless, even though they're very big, big name person, but powerless to act on this.
	So we have to collectively change hearts and minds.
	And I think that the more people that become aware of what's really going on, I think we'll reach a tipping point where suddenly, people will feel more comfortable to be able to speak out when they realize if that by being silent, Ultimately, this becomes self-destructive for them and for people around them.
	And that's really the message that we're trying to convey.
	That's cool.
	It's like you feel that there will be, in a sense, this is where we as individuals must take responsibility for our own conduct and outlook.
	that if we can awaken to the point where we're open-hearted to people in
	positions of power, it's very easy for example in my job and having had the
	experiences that I've accrued since speaking out against the establishment
	in a very overt way, to start to regard them as almost, and even the word them
	is telling, like regard them as almost sort of like if not evil then utterly
	It's difficult to sort of think of like, you know, so as I sort of remember that like Joe Biden, like lost a child in a car accident, and like he lost his first wife, you know, and I've started to think, okay, these are human beings.
	It's hard to hold together that level of humanity, but you can't really make anything from rage and hatred, like other than Absolutely.
	So I think you're right.
	We have to somehow hold all of this information, experience what we experience when we speak out in the manner that we do, and then somehow have an open heart.
	So in a sense, you're saying that those seven principles, which you sort of, it sounds like have been inverted by many people in positions of institutional or corporate power, like in, you know, that psychopathic paradigm that you used.
	We have to somehow, would you say, approach this from a spiritual perspective?
	I know that both Vandana Shiva and Bobby see the world in those terms.
	What about you?
	A hundred percent.
	I've had my own suffering in the last few years with losing both my parents prematurely, and I had to dig deep.
	I actually found a lot of comfort and strength in Buddhist philosophy, for example.
	On that, Russell, people know about the concept of breaking bad, but we don't talk about breaking good so often.
	In fact, one of the most amazing stories for me historically is the story of King Ashoka of India, who was a despotic king who would torture people who were dissidents against his political ideology, created wars, killed many, many people.
	And 200 years after the death of Buddha, he came across Buddha's teachings, and it suddenly transformed him.
	He had an epiphany moment.
	He stopped capital punishment.
	He stopped animal sacrifice.
	He sent people out on missions around the world, outside India, to spread Buddhism outside India.
	And in fact, you can credit the spread of Buddhism outside India, probably because of Ashoka.
	So for me, that is an amazing, powerful story about the power of human beings to transform.
	That's beautiful that what could unfurl from apparent evil is beauty.
	That transformation, redemption, salvation, awakening and enlightenment are possible for all of us and we shouldn't foreclose on that possibility even for those that we regard as opponents.
	What a powerful message Asim.
	Thank you for joining us.
	Thanks for your great work.
	Congratulations on your success.
	Certainly we'll be supporting Your film will post the crowdfunding for that here until it's inevitably shut down by the system.
	No, don't become cynical.
	Don't become cynical.
	And I would suggest that you go see Dr. Hossein Malhotra in San Jose on October 28th.
	That's an incredible bill.
	And of course, follow The Great Doctor on X if you can.
	Thanks, Doc, for joining us again.
	Thank you, Russell.
	Thank you so much.
	Well done, mate.
	Thanks a lot.
	Take it easy.
	Cheers now.
	What a conversation that was.
	What a joy it is to speak to people that are as committed and as devoted and as open-hearted and as open-minded as Dr. Asim Malhotra.
	Let me know in the chat if you enjoyed that conversation.
	And of course, go check out those various projects of his, the movie and the talk with Vandana and Bobby Kennedy.
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