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Aug. 2, 2023 - Stay Free - Russel Brand
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WIM HOF Vs BIG PHARMA: The Truth About Health! - Stay Free #181
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In this video, you're going to see the future.
Hello there, you Awakening Wonders!
Thank you for joining me today.
If you're watching us on YouTube, there's a link right there in the description.
Very subtly do this so the algorithm don't spot it.
Join us over on the other place where we can speak freely.
Because Wim Hof, the Iceman, is a fascinating chap, let me tell you.
Because in addition to his powerful breathwork methods and his dalliances with extreme cold, he has powerful scientific evidence that reveals the depth to which the Replace your own natural immunity, a phrase that until recently you weren't able to use.
You might know him because of his astonishing feats, swimming under ice, climbing mountains in his pants.
In our conversation at Community, we talked about his techniques and how they provide a meaningful alternative to the medical industry and big pharma.
And, interestingly, his belief that all of us are able to intercede in our own health, Accessing deep power within us that can stop us suffering from some of the most life-threatening conditions in the world And as you'll know if you watch the Kali means episode and as you'll know if you follow our content closely Conditions that are inflicted due to big food and big pharma policies to an extraordinary degree We talk about the pandemic and we talk about the necessity of gathering such as community.
I hope you join us next time You're gonna love this conversation Hello.
I'm being joined by Wim Hof, who you may know as the Iceman, whose breathwork and cold exposure techniques have led to personal and communal biological and anatomical breakthroughs.
Thanks for joining me for this conversation, Wim.
Thanks, Russell, for having me.
It's lovely to be at Community, at this beautiful festival, which is about, of course, individual wellness and community awakening.
How do your techniques, Wim, pose a challenge to Big Pharma, to the mentality of Big Pharma, which some people say is a sort of mentality of keeping people sick.
I don't want to be simplistic, but it seems that Big Pharma does require a certain degree of institutional sickness.
I don't know how it crept in, but Big Pharma is big because we let them.
We let them and we don't make use of our independence.
We are not built to go to a doctor in nature.
We are built to heal ourselves.
Only we are disconnected inside of our own systems.
We get into schools, into the system.
We get into a narrow consciousness.
Which in the end makes us able to control partially our body and mind and we get conditioned and then when something happens we don't know how to get into the depth no more because we had no control of that from the beginning because we are too much brainwashed.
Too much cooled in certain patterns.
And now we have come up with new ways to regain power over what is ours by the laws of Mother Nature.
I realize now, for the first time, that you're an anarchist and a libertarian.
You believe in individual freedom, don't you?
It's very, very important to you to be free.
This is called Stay Free with Russell Brand, our channel, for a reason.
And that's because we believe in as much autonomy and as much independence as possible.
But when we say stuff like that about Big Pharma, I'm mindful that my mum's had cancer, say, eight times, and she's got well through, like, therapies like radiotherapy, chemotherapy.
You know, my mother, it might be argued, is alive because of the expertise in medicine, because of the dedication of doctors.
So, what is it that you're saying, Wim, about Big Pharma that's separate from what we all understand to be areas of science and medicine that are obviously keeping people alive and are beneficial?
Where is the distinction?
Where is the line drawn?
Let me tell you a little story to make that clear.
At a certain moment there came a mother to my home, a mother of two children, five and seven years, both with brain tumors.
And the whole society, and chemotherapists, and oncologists, and the departments, and so forth, and she went to all the doctors and they could not help her.
Because their children, both of them, had a very low developed immune system.
And she was like, maybe you can do something.
I said, I don't know what I can do, but I will go to the end with you, until they are cured.
And she broke into tears, which I feel still now, because that's real!
We cannot take care of our own children?
Then what has happened?
Is it an industry, or what is this?
The thing is, at that moment I felt a deep urge to help this woman.
Not just because of philosophy, because of an innate capacity!
Because I'm here to take care of children as a puppy.
So I did that.
She broke into tears because for the first time she met a person who was not saying it is impossible to treat them.
They cannot go into chemotherapy.
It's hopeless.
Sorry, we are against the wall with this.
And there you have a mother, desperate and all, seeking answers, seeking possibilities, seeking hope.
And she found it there.
And that was me, a human response.
And then we started.
I said, yeah, crying is good.
Stop now, and now we're going to start.
And it only took one week, or actually eight days, because they were being controlled by doctors on their immune cells, every two weeks, to see if they might be now able to get into chemotherapy.
But they were too low already for too long a time, It only took eight days of a little bit of cold, and playfully doing the breathing, breathing exercises, and playfully going into the cold.
Eight days!
And their immune cells multiplied in the two children, peas on that, ten times!
Ten times!
Suddenly, from the 300 children in that oncological department, all with cancers, they were the only kids a good bear, double dose, chemo.
So I'm working actually with the pharmaceuticals and I give them actually work
and they were able suddenly to take double dose and still don't feel it, don't feel the chemo.
Because they have so much energy through the cold and through the breathing.
So, this is the way I work.
I have nothing against the pharmaceuticals or nothing against nobody, but I also say we have an innate capacity which is far beyond what we think is possible.
Mmm, I see.
So this particular story you're saying, there was one child with her mother, and there are two children.
Yeah.
And both of these children, they knew what their immune response was like prior to your techniques, and they knew what the test... All measured.
So, you're saying that we have within us, all of us, an inherent capacity to heal ourselves that we are not exploring, and you're saying that both breathwork and exposure to the cold can awaken these techniques.
Will they work for cancer?
Will they work for heart disease?
Will they work for aging?
Anything!
Anything!
Why?
How can it be so robust?
How can it work for anything, Wim?
Because nature has provided us with these innate capacities.
Only we came into an industrialized comfort zone behavior which has alienated most of our powers and stimulation.
If you go into the cult, you train the biggest organ of ours, which is our skin.
And all the electroreceptors, temperature receptors, vascular receptors, they come out in the skin.
They need stimulation.
So deep stimulation comes to millions of receptors.
Connected to 125,000 kilometers of vascular channeling.
That is capillaries, arteries, and veins.
And they are connected to the heart.
So when all the muscles, called the endothelium, which was also the problem in COVID, The endothelium got perforated through IL-6, IL-8, that's inflammatory markers.
And I told the doctors, but nobody's listening to me, because how can he have a solution?
That's not possible.
OK, let's go from COVID and get back.
The thing is, endothelium is millions of little primitive muscles in the cardiovascular system.
They begin to help the blood flow to go through, so the blood will go much better to old cells, by which you get a lot more energy in the mitochondria.
And thus, a cold shower a day keeps the doctor away.
Even the doctor is doing it.
It means your performance goes way up, the energy, and the heart rate goes down, because all the millions of little muscles suddenly help the blood flow go through.
And so, the heart, which, if it goes in an accelerated pace, creates a signal to the liver to create cortisol and glucose.
And that is stress, stress, stress.
We are constantly in stress, because we have a stressful condition made by the comfort zone behavior, which not stimulates all our functioning.
And there is the problem.
And then you get killer number one in our society, It's cardiovascular-related diseases.
And hundreds, possibly billions of people are suffering from low condition of life energetically because of the cardiovascular condition becoming so deteriorated, so weak.
Hey, muscle not trained?
You don't use it, you lose it.
And it's a very simple question.
But if you bring it like simple, nobody listens.
So you have to make it a bit more complicated.
So I understand what you're saying.
You're saying that we've gotten out of touch with how we were evolved to live.
The way that we're supposed to move, the way that we're supposed to eat, the way that we're supposed to be exposed to our environment.
And we've become conditioned creatures that live sedentary lifestyles in various cubes and boxes, eating food that is overly processed, Taking pharmaceutical drugs that are not life-enhancing or life-saving, but are just part of this ongoing system of perpetual ill health.
You've made it very clear that you're not saying that all medicine is bad.
That would be a foolish thing to say.
But there is a kind of an endemic strain in our culture of keeping us sick.
What do you think it is, Wim, about these techniques that are connecting us to our deep nature?
And also, can anybody do this?
Like, when I think of someone like my mum, who's in her 70s, or my dad, who's 8 years old, or people that are watching this that might have conditions like diabetes, cardiovascular conditions, cancer, All sorts of heart conditions.
How can this deep breath and exposure to the cold be good for us?
And also, isn't it potentially risky?
I bet some people say that, you know, you could hurt people doing this stuff.
Yeah, a wrongful practice is bad anytime.
The last time I climbed Kilimanjaro, the oldest person with whom I climbed was 76 years old.
76!
And normally Kilimanjaro is being done between 5 and 9 days.
Fully dressed.
And then only 40% summit.
Yes?
5 to 9 days.
Fully dressed.
Because it's very cold up there.
And then 40% summit.
Yes?
So, now I went with this person.
He used the breathing.
He used the motivation.
Motivation is the power of intention.
That is a focused neurological connection from the mind willfully to the body.
That is now proven in science.
It's a little bit ahead of psychiatric understanding, etc.
But it is coming because we already proved it.
But this person, 76 years old, no former experience in mountaineering.
76 years old and suffering from Lyme disease.
He comes with me, uses the breathing techniques.
5 to 9 days.
He did it in 31 hours.
In a shorts.
To the summit.
He has no Lyme's disease anymore.
He connected so deeply inside.
And it doesn't take 20 years of yogic training or something.
It's your awakening.
Awaken, community.
Awaken, Victor.
Just awaken to your innate capacity and say all the rest is bullshit.
You got so much more, at least you have anything to take, to get rid of the obstacles between you and the realization of your beautiful soul.
Because we have forgotten about the soul.
And that soul is a love.
It's like, when you are in love, do you think?
No, no.
You're not thinking, you've got power!
It's not this way, that way, you do that!
I go to my love!
So that power we have in here for our lives.
And in the end, we exemplify then for our children, for our beloveds.
We show confidence.
Confidence is confidere.
Confidere is with belief.
That is confidence.
Within yourself, into the depth, makes you able to overcome any That sounds almost like crazy, but I am bloody crazy about my life and my wife.
So, in a way, it's like what you're describing to us is a dormant capacity that we've always thought of as the domain of magic.
And when you hear a story like, oh, there was a man who's 76 with Lyme's disease who climbed Kilimanjaro in 31 hours, I almost want to like, right, give me that footage.
I want to see a before test and an after test that says the pros, the presence of Lyme's and then the absence of Lyme's.
We got it all.
Because we've been good.
Because we've been trained, Wim, to believe that what we require is a kind of... Most people now, they're gonna live lives where they go through an education system that's, in many regards, in my opinion, about instilling conformity and losing connection with your body.
And I really respect teachers and devoted people in all professions.
I love and I regard highly.
But I think that... Do you want some more coffee, darling?
Because you don't fucking seem like someone who needs any more.
Do you want water?
Water or this?
That kombucha, do you want that?
Yeah, yeah, kombucha.
Nice.
Could have said anything then, couldn't I?
It's whiskey, it's vodka, it's vampire blood.
If it is whiskey, then it is whimsky on the rocks.
I was thinking Wim Hof Coffee, Wim Hofie, and I think it would be a really good brand.
Do you want to be as strong as me?
Drink Wim Hofie!
Like that.
That's what I was thinking.
So...
Yeah, I suppose, in a way, our horizons have been brought low by institutions.
The reason when I was saying before, oh, you're an anarchist and a libertarian, is because you are clearly anti-institutional.
And being anti-institutional is not anti-education.
But I'm starting to feel, as I have young children myself, I want my children to be educated where I can see them.
I want them to learn about nature.
I want them to learn about literature.
I want them to learn about mathematics, I want them to learn about science and medicine,
I want them to learn whatever they're interested in and become who they are.
But even at schools that present themselves as progressive, I can see that primarily what they're teaching children is
how to be controlled.
They're closing children down.
When I ring the bell, everyone put their hand over their mouth.
Like, even a quite progressive school.
You know, they look like prisons.
Fences, bells, whistles.
Like, the conformity is the default of our society.
Whether it's with health, or whether it's with education, or whether it's with the arts or music.
It feels like everything is becoming commodified to an extraordinary degree.
In fact, Wim, I'm surprised that someone like you has been able to emerge, in a way.
When you started that show on the BBC, I thought, They can't have Wim Hof on the BBC.
I talked to Wim Hof.
Wim Hof, if you film him for 10 minutes, he'll say stuff like, Big Pharma needs to close down!
The government is corrupt!
The media!
It's like, how the fuck are they having him on BBC One at 8 o'clock?
It's gonna be crazy!
So how has someone like you broken through?
And what do you think needs to change about our media institutions?
How have you found it personally?
And have you, after a time of being quite celebrated, and please, God, I pray that the time of celebrating Wim Hof continues, because I think it's in all of our benefit, Have you experienced anything like people criticizing you, any kind of backlash, people saying that your claims are not true?
I get backlash already for the last 10 years and even more since 2007.
In 2007, I showed in New York very clearly how to control and influence the vagus nerve in the Feinstein Institute in Manassas, New York, under the supervision of Dr. Kevin Tracy, who's in the board of the jury for Nobel Prize winners in medical achievement.
Yeah?
He was supervising this and he took me and nobody was able to get into the vagus nerve and how to stimulate it and then I came and I did it!
I did it not a little bit, big time!
And if you are able to get into the vagus nerve and willfully, then that means the vagus nerve is directly related.
If you are able to suppress the activity of the vagus nerve, then you are suppressing inflammation.
And inflammation is the cause and effect of any disease.
So that should have been an alarm bell of Hey, we found it!
Eureka!
Eureka!
Right, nothing.
And this is this world.
There is an arrogance going on, there is a complex going on, and it's within the psychology, settled down, and it's well-rooted in our brains.
And it is holding us from feeling Empowered, like Mother Nature wants us to be, to be just happy, and strong, and healthy, and we in control.
And with that, learning about our deeper reality, namely the purpose of our soul, and to realize it, because that's the source.
And when the source goes, whoa, flows all!
And there I want to go, backlash or not, I don't care, I'm in life, I have no fear, and I go until it is all done, Mind me, all the gods are with me.
I'm going to realize the mission my mother gave me.
At the time of my birth, it was my mother who invocated, because I almost died as the second child, never expected, too long in the womb, And I was born in the cold of the hall just before entering into the operation room.
And my mother was just pushing me out there with all her belief, God-fearing.
She was never drunk, never smoked, never... But don't underestimate a mother.
She there, right there, would say, Oh God, let this child live.
I will make him a missionary.
I'm not going to disgrace my mother.
Before I go, I got it done.
That's for my mother, that's for your mother, and for all the mothers.
These techniques, Wim Hof, these techniques, it sounds like what you're describing is that all of us know that we can regenerate cells, all of us know that our cardiovascular systems are operating unconsciously, automatically, all of the time.
The heart is pumping, the blood is being oxygenated, dialysis is taking place, Thousands of synaptic connections are being formed.
Much of what you describe is the possibility of intervening with the processes that are usually happening beyond the remit of the individual self.
Is this what you're saying?
Is that you can intercede and intersect with the processes that the body... We all know that the body, if we are cut, The body will heal.
We all know that the heart is beating right now.
We know that the stomach acids, all of these thousands, millions of jobs, all of these connections are taking place.
And when you gave the example of the vagus nerve just then, and with some other examples that you've given in our previous conversations, it seems that you're saying that we can intercede with and direct these natural healing and regenerative processes.
Is that what you're saying, Wim?
Yes, it's called interoceptive Focus.
You got the sixth sense.
Everybody knows about the sixth sense.
Intuition.
I see dead people.
I see alive people.
Make jokes all the time.
And then you got the seventh sense.
It's a neurological network called the proprioception.
And then you got the eighth neurological network called interoception.
And interoception was thought of, you cannot willfully control that top-down regulating, you know, with your will, the body.
But now I showed very clearly to do so!
That was in Detroit.
In Detroit, I showed Interoceptive Focus.
That means top-down regulation, psychology over physiology.
It's there!
We are the healers.
And this professor, Professor Muzik, is saying Wim Hof has found the secret of placebo.
So, placebo is what we thought, hey, maybe he's saying, oh, this is a pill and it's going to work.
No, we don't need that anymore.
We don't need suggestive powers or any trickery of that kind.
It is our willfully controlled power to heal ourselves, which is a network.
But we have never learned how to connect That psychology over physiology, that neurological network, which is physical, like this, inside, and that makes us able to go up to the cell, past time and space, into ancestral trauma, into the DNA.
You can all see it!
And that the people are not taking it on, is because it doesn't make this, but it brings health!
It brings happiness.
It brings strength.
It brings trauma release.
It brings the soul.
It brings delight.
That is interoceptive focus.
And we found the key.
And we are handing it over to you, to you, to everybody who is watching this.
He is giving me platform for this.
But I do the signs all the time.
And I saw it.
And all these doctors, they say, yeah, Wim, this is the premise, this is where we don't see a solution here, because according to the books and the literature, we are not able to willfully control, say, what heals us, or what is the soul, proprioception, what is your space here in the time, Are you balanced out with your purpose and all?
All these deeper arcs are now related not anymore to abstract parcels of the brain.
I showed very recently in a new study how to control the subcortical higher functioning of the brain, which means whatever is A narrow-minded in our brain, now we are able to go out of that loop into all of our brain.
Imagine if we could do that.
Wouldn't that be amazing?
Now, that's happening.
It's here, the threshold of the unlimited power of the mind.
It's not me, it's physical and it's there.
It's like the first time they run the 100 meters within 10 seconds.
One year later, 10, 15 people could do it.
Just not that little bit more.
So you always will be behind me.
I want you to be, it's not competition, I want you to become the best of yourself.
The competition stops here, guys.
We are here to bring something that makes you the best of yourself.
So everybody, gold for everybody.
Or diamonds or whatever you want.
Interceptive healing then is perhaps something that's been around for a very long time.
Do you think that there is a lot of forgotten wisdom?
Do you think that when we're talking about healing traditions and yogis and even, if I may venture, a controversial example, Christ and the example of miracles, that it is possible perhaps to access energy sources and inner resources that we have forgotten and allowed to lay waste?
When I listen to you speak, Wim, it feels like a lot of the time what we're talking about is things have become commodities, things have become externalised that were previously granted.
Do you feel that when people are talking about the ability to heal, when people are talking in yogic traditions, when we Here are examples of spontaneous healing from cancer.
This placebo effect, the body's ability to heal itself if it's correctly directed and guided, is what all miraculous healing in the past has been built around.
Absolutely, absolutely.
Sometimes we just touch upon it.
I get so many examples of so many anecdotal evidence, means real people coming to me with cancers and with all kinds of motor or motorical diseases, even ALS.
I'm working with people with ALS.
Let me tell you, I eat monsters for breakfast.
Okay, give me cancer, give me ALS, give me pacemakers, give me this, give me that.
I take it on because I believe.
I got faith.
I got a faith which is my right to exercise since I was 12 years old.
Twelve years old, I was talking to my friends, like, being together, and I said, hey, if the world, if they think war, pollution, abuse, depression, disease, etc.
is normal, then I think the world is sick.
I think it is sick, and I'm going to do something about it.
Twelve years old, eh?
There I pledged the oath, I'm going to do something about it.
How and what?
I don't know.
I just do it.
That's my philosophy.
I just do it.
And now I'm able to bring the neurological networks, which were top-down regulated, considered not to be done by humans, I bring it to scientific evidence.
So, it is now to you to take on, once again, an abstracted, over-individualized society brought in by schooling and Rockefellers and what kind of asshole... Sorry, my French, but they should have been out from the beginning.
Didn't happen.
Long before, in the time of Christ, and Buddha, and Zarathustra, and whatever, all these beautiful people, they tried to revive what is ours, and that is the power of healing, and to be holy.
Because we are not born half.
We are born to be holy, and to get there.
Consciously.
And so all these great civilizations of before, 15,000, it's all... We have to break this narrative that we should be dependent on industries, healthy economies based on sick people.
That doesn't make sense!
But still we are in it and we are so over mesmerized because they control us through the wrong schooling by which we do not exercise our powers.
We are powerless.
See, when you talk about being a little kid, I can't imagine you ever being normal.
I can't imagine you doing normal stuff.
I can't imagine you having to sort of, like, you know, wash a pair of underpants.
I bet you don't wear underpants.
I can't imagine you having to do, like... I can't imagine you being intimidated.
Because even though, right, I recognise things, I recognise... I have purpose.
I've always known.
I've always known that unusual stuff was going to happen.
I never doubted it.
Even when there was nothing, even when it was just despair and addiction and all those things.
There was something else.
There was always something else.
But I think that I get, like, intimidated sometimes and I get afraid and sometimes I feel inferior and I feel worried and scared.
And I don't feel like you do.
When was the last time you felt anything like that?
Because I'd like to go fearlessly through life, never bothering about anything.
Or do you think I'd be dangerous?
What is it?
When was the last... Do you experience these things, Wim Hof?
Things like, you know, because obviously you've been through, we've discussed it on our previous occasions, and I'm mindful that your daughter is in the room, but that you lost your wife and your partner, and this is like such a terrible tragedy, but I don't see in you anything other than ROAR!
And like incredible intelligence and an ability to communicate and to convey energy and to alter states, and earlier today it looked like you were communicating even with the weather for a moment.
But like, so I don't sort of see in you like, I'm nervous, I don't know what to do.
Like I still have conversations like, what should I say about that?
What should I do?
You know, like normal stuff.
Do you have those kind of sort of normal self-doubts and fears that most people have?
I have to think.
Well, it might be the cold and I'm getting amnesia or something.
But I can't remember really when I was not convinced that I'm able to do something about this shit show that is ongoing.
Because it is a shit show.
Come on, guys.
It's coming.
You can see it.
And nobody seems to be able to make a change.
So let it be us.
Are you a very spontaneous person?
Do you not plan ahead?
Like, do you sort of go, we're doing this today!
I'd figure that you're not going, right, Tuesday, do you know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to go ten pin bowling.
Then Wednesday, I'm going to have a haircut.
I figure that you're just rolling through life on the river of yourself.
Yes, I do.
Go with the flow.
Go with the flow.
Like today, hey man, who is going to control the weather?
Oh, you've got a beautiful setup here.
You're going to have the space and then do poetry very softly and get interacted with the people.
Shit, rain comes!
Nobody's able to listen to your poetry.
Fuck off!
No!
Just be there!
Make the people strong!
Interact with God!
With the weather!
Be Thor!
That is nature!
That is who we are!
And if that gets a little bit there, because I did all the signs, just be happy, strong and healthy.
Rest is bullshit.
And as long as the bullshit is there, then breathe, motherfucker, and take the damn cold shower, and or ice bath.
Hey, outside?
Ice bath.
Ice bath soon?
If I don't do an ice bath, like a couple of days, and I just get in, and then I think, oh shit, man, I'm a genius.
You know, I have self-esteem, like, I'm just here.
I got the right to be myself.
And when I see the iceberg, the icy water, it's a power of nobility, and you said it well.
I used that on stage.
When you get your hand into that freezing, powerful, cold water, then remind yourself that power can be yours.
When you go in and you adapt and it's going to be yours and we missed out on that power because it is able to awaken Awaken that deep primordial power within.
And if you are then, because you are doing it, going controlled, consciously, into that cold water, and you make it your own, then you are into the deepest part of the brain.
Once you are there, you're connected, then suddenly you are able to go anywhere inside your brain.
If you go to the deepest, where else can you not go?
It is as simple as that.
Because it is only to retrieve what is ours.
Our mind, our body, our soul, our heart.
To pass it on to our children.
For God's sake!
If that is not there, then what is there?
You see?
That's love.
It's love, powerful, you take it on, and very tender.
Man, if you see your cute little kid, you can die and live and reincarnate and you can go to the stars, it doesn't matter.
That matters.
That's where we are April.
Wim Hof, of course if we do these things, if you teach people that they can, to a significant degree, to a very significant degree, heal themselves, if you teach people to a very significant degree, there is no need for mediating power structures like the state, there is no need for corporate structures, there is a need for organization, there is a need for communication, there is a need There's a need for media, there's a need for medicine, there's a need for travel, there's a need for technology.
But the framing of these institutions could be radically altered if a significant number of the population were to become aware, present and activated.
If this message becomes conveyed to a large degree, I figure that there will be significant and powerful opposition Oh yes, but what I say, if the governments are not representing the good of the people, then we have to learn to govern ourselves.
And this is what I bring.
And this is good for the carpenter, the doctor, for the road worker, for the pharmaceutical director or employee.
It's good for anybody.
My message is love.
It's a universal power which is good for everybody.
And therein is autonomy.
So we have shown how to regain control over the autonomic nervous system, but also over the autonomous processes in the brain.
So we have shown that in science.
It's there.
And that is autonomy.
If you are able willfully to control that what makes you sick, to prevent, to feel powerful, happy and strong, to have a control over the endocrine system, over the cardiovascular system, lymphatic system, all the systems, to go into the depth any time when you need revision, you are like a garage in your car.
The auto is Greek for you, yourself.
Yeah, that's the auto.
Auto is not outside, it's inside.
It's our vehicle.
Let it be your good ride, man!
This is life!
Yeah!
It's good!
Yeah, you're right about all of this stuff.
So you don't feel that there are, when it comes to sort of like ordinary everyday politics, for example, the Republican Party, the Democrat Party, whatever's happening in your native Netherlands, How do you deal with issues around left and right?
Issues like immigration versus national borders?
Issues like redistribution and redistribution of resources?
Issues like money and politics?
Are these things that you think about on a granular level?
Or do you feel that by raising the level of consciousness and individual power, these things will, in a sense, automatically be dealt with?
Because it feels to me that we live in...
Systemic corruption to an unprecedented degree, where the relationships between private, financial and corporate interests and the state is so kind of, what do I want to say, immersive, that it's a difficult thing to disrupt, and indeed it's getting worse.
Like, with some new censorship bills that are being passed right now in the EU and across the anglophonic countries, it would be possible for social media platform, for the EU for example, to say, You're not allowed to talk about these subjects online, it's censored, and the social media platforms would just have to take it down.
So information like you're conveying right now, which I would say would cause some significant financial interest to incur massive losses, massive losses, this is the kind of information that would be censored.
So I'm guessing that you believe in free speech, but where else do you stand politically, Wim?
Do you think there's anyone in the political space that is conveying important and necessary information?
Yeah, yeah.
If I go in politics and I see that, then I think of poor devils.
Poor devils.
The poor devils should not be in power because then you get the American situation like right now.
It's like ridiculous and people see it and people are suffering and there is carelessness and all that.
So what I say, I'm not left wing, I'm not right wing, I'm both the wings.
I want to fly.
I'm a bird.
I want freedom.
I want to feel it every day and be able to pass it on to my children.
Learn to govern your own families.
Because it's abstracted so much that the money is abstracted.
What is money?
In the end it is our representation of our energy.
So, and what is what they are doing with it?
A vaccine industry?
What is... Hey, come on.
I know all about mRNA.
I'm into the cell with the best DNA researchers.
I know my shit, man.
I walk my talk like I'm out there.
I look like a hobo.
And I'm a Viking.
And I can be anything.
But one thing is the most important.
I'm free.
I'm my soul.
And I bring it there, where it needs to be.
We're over-abstracted in this society.
Over-individualized.
They got us by the balls.
I don't know what.
Not even man has got us by the balls.
Not even women.
I don't know anymore.
Where's the human?
That confusion is going to stop if you only be happy, strong, and healthy.
That's what I say about politics, because it's a lot of bollocks, and just be... I mean, the rest is bullshit.
And I am not interested in bullshit.
Left-wing, right-wing, no, no, no, no.
The American Eagle was two wings, so go fly.
People watching us will be... they ask this a lot.
They... I think a lot of people now are aware of what we're talking about.
The power of the individual to self-heal.
The power of the individual to self-govern.
They recognize how hypocritical and corrupt our institutions have become.
How out of control corporatism has become.
How there is a march towards globalism and centralized power.
People can see that it's happening.
I got him!
I got him!
It's great that you're creating the premise.
Because recently I showed how to control, for the first time in neuroscience, in brain scans.
Brain scans don't lie.
If I don't do nothing, I got a brain like anybody.
But if I use the power of my intention, suddenly I'm able to go into the abstract parcels of the brain, into the subcortical higher functioning of the brain.
And we could not do that before.
That's why Everything is so abstracted in society, in politics, in the systemic way to control us, to exterminate wildlife, nature, to come up with DNA and mRNA modifications, etc.
And more, more abstracting, because we have no control over our abstract parcels in the brain.
But now we have.
Now we have, so we can bring this down, which has grown out of control, and nobody seems to stop.
Let me say, I'm a puppy, I'm gonna stop this, because it is shit, and it is jeopardizing my family, and your family, and your family, and your family, and anybody's family.
So, we're gonna bring back common sense, and we go through science, so there is no speculation, no obstructing there anymore possible.
So, there it is.
You can look it up.
I gave you all the footage of the professors explaining what I've been doing lately.
And together with this, the last thing for implementing into schools, very important, globally, is a control for children through a universal technique that works within a half hour.
That enabled every child in the world, in schools, to perform a lot better, and to have much more power of regulation over their mood.
No more shootings in the schools, and pestering, because children get into control of their own mood.
Wouldn't that be interesting?
Governments, are you listening?
Again?
The proof is there, and we did it with 100 people, and we want to make it into an app together with the Penn State University and Rotterdam University, talking and dealing with professors.
And we are doing this together, and we did it with 100 people.
And it shows that if you do these breathing techniques, and you use your intent, If you don't do it, you see task performance in front of the computer, and then stressful signals come through your earphones in, and you are disturbed.
And then you can see that.
I give you all the footage and you see that.
Then you see a lot of grey.
That is stress in the brain.
Stress registration.
Yes?
And then the black line is task performance.
You do your tasks.
There's a certain part of the brain.
And then the rest of the brain is into stress registration.
If you get long-term stress, it's detrimental.
Yeah?
It's to the quality of life.
You begin to pester.
You have no control over your brain anymore.
Then you get the shootings and all that shit.
You get over there because of stress.
Too much stress.
You have no normal life.
It's like you get into a system and you have to endure stress all the time.
It's like somebody is pestering you.
And at a certain moment you are just enough.
And you begin to wildly shoot your own friends.
You don't recognize your soul, your being, your empathy.
Nothing anymore.
Yes?
Okay.
Now, we got 100 people.
And then, the people who weren't doing the techniques, they were into a lot of grey area of stress while doing the task performance.
Long term of that?
Detrimental.
And we know all the situations.
And it's such an unovercomeable problem.
We cannot do anything.
We are here.
Oh, we can't do.
We are doctors and professors and here we are.
We can't do anything about this shooting.
Oh, the gun law, etc.
What a perverted paradigm that is, and where all the politics and the powerless politics, political leaders, man!
There is no power over there.
We saw it.
So look into this, then.
The people who were doing breathing exercises, just starting in a half hour, they had at least half amount of stress with the same task performance.
And the people doing regular breathing exercises, really believing in the breathing exercises, Going deeper within themselves, they had about one-tenth of the stress.
That long term gives them the confidence, the power over their mood.
They are just relaxed.
They're not gonna shoot somebody.
A happy man doesn't go to war.
A happy man is not into possession.
It's only when you have this stressful, high-tense being that you want an alternative for your shitty life.
Then you go for money, entertainment, hookers, this, that.
Long live our society!
Totally fucked up.
Alec, do you know what I realize when I'm talking to you?
It's like we've got like an ATM, a cash machine inside ourselves and no one's using it.
No one's using it.
Everyone's trying to take things from outside of themselves when it's available inside.
Money was the representation of your energy.
If you do the breathing and believing, you get infinite amount of energy Is it sinking?
It means even the cryptocurrency and, yeah, energy, money, it's in there.
Happy man doesn't go to war.
Unconditional love.
Let's talk unconditional love.
That's the way we, that's our intrinsic natural nature of ours.
Meditation should be there when you sit.
The chatterbox gone.
That is the new control going to be.
We are the future.
We are coming to you.
Not for you.
To you.
To give love, unconditional power over yourselves.
Amen.
It was always there.
Do you think in the pandemic period, Wim Hof, we were trained that there was nothing we could do to heal ourselves?
We were trained that the solutions lay outside of ourselves, and in particular in the hands of Big Pharma.
Do you think that this was something that was pushed very heavily?
Because a lot of things we were told during that time have had to be re-examined.
Do you think that there is an interest in keeping people disconnected from our own ability to heal?
And do you think that happened in particular during the pandemic period and that the pharmaceutical industry benefited from that?
Yes, I got on Instagram a little film made.
I had about 1.5 million views on that.
Which I do normally not have, but I just shot it right into the target.
Hey, they paralyzed our society, they paralyzed our families, they paralyzed ourselves with fear.
And all this doesn't need to happen.
We could take this as an opportunity to get back to ourselves instead of this abstracted world where we have become so dependent.
We want to go to the restaurant, to the film.
Suddenly we cannot go to the restaurant anymore, to the film, and to this, and to that.
Man, a good yogi, a good monk, or a good person rules himself, over himself.
It's an old Dutch saying, maybe in English too.
A good kit rules itself, you know?
It is able to contain itself.
We got too much out, so all this system is able to control that, but they cannot control your soul, ever.
Not even through AI and Robotica in the future.
So the future is here.
It's a simple choice.
Do you want to become your soul?
Or do you want to become a victim of this runaway, abstracted society creating what came out of our minds, but which is not connected to our soul?
It's a lesson of life.
So whatever, in the pandemic I get a lot of people with myocarditis and long-term COVID and we heal them.
Amazing, huh?
Oh, Wim, what are you saying?
I say, you motherfuckers, it's okay.
I love you.
Just try it out.
If it doesn't work, blame me.
But first, try it out.
Begin your breathing exercises.
Begin exposing yourself to the cold.
Stay free.
You're awakening wonders.
Thank you, Wim Hof, for joining me.
That was an amazing conversation.
Thank you for having me.
I'll give you a big cuddle.
Amen.
I love you.
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