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Tucker Interview GONE VIRAL!! - My Reaction - #164 - Stay Free With Russell Brand

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	Hello there, you awakened wonders.
	Thanks for joining me on Stay Free with Russell Brand.
	Welcome to our new viewers.
	What a fantastic week it was last week with Tucker.
	I'm going to be reflecting on that conversation, its significance, what it tells us about independent media and mainstream media.
	Although, of course, you know that independent media now has to align with independent politics because mainstream media and centralist politics are aligned.
	But that's what I think.
	Let me know what you think in the chat.
	If you're watching this now on Rumble, why don't you press the red button
	and join us on Locals like so many already have, like Chef411 telling me simply
	that they're drinking coffee right now.
	"'Tucker touched on architecture and I fully agreed,' says Rational Anarchy."
	It was a chroming and wonderful conversation.
	It's being covered everywhere, but it happened here on Stay Free,
	and we've got many more conversations like it to come.
	Ron DeSantis coming up later this week, and we're reaching out to political figures,
	pundits, and thinkers from across the political spectrum.
	Let us know who you want to see come on here, because based on what happened here last week, we can get these guests if you want them enough.
	Here to help me cover stories like Biden's cluster bombs is Gareth Roy, my on-screen assistant.
	Hello, Gareth.
	How are you all?
	I am.
	I can even feel Tucker's charisma rising up from that seat into your body.
	That's why I've worn a jacket today.
	You are a bit more like Tucker.
	A little more.
	And I can see your feet are nude a la Tucker as well.
	That's how he likes to do stuff.
	One of the stories that we're going to be covering in some detail is the cluster bomb story.
	The Biden administration has agreed to provide Ukraine with cluster bombs, even though last year they said that if Russia used cluster bombs, That would be a crime.
	When is a cluster bomb not a cluster bomb?
	You know, when they need it not to be?
	It makes you wonder, what are the ethics and ideals behind this conflict?
	Of course, later in Here's the News, we'll be showing you some stuff about Tucker that we couldn't show you before, or didn't show you before.
	And when we're exclusively on Rumble, if you're watching us on YouTube or listening to us on Twitter, wherever you're receiving this, the majority of the show can only happen on Rumble.
	Not because of hate speech, but because of free speech.
	We've got no time for hatred.
	We don't have time as individuals.
	We don't have time as a movement.
	We don't have time as a species.
	This is a time for alliance.
	We're going to be talking about how your government wants to continue to censor you in spite of a federal judgment that says they should simply stop.
	You will not believe the propaganda that we're going to show you.
	We're going to show you a clip from CNN that if it was happening in a country that you already were predisposed to
	dislike like for example Russia or perhaps a nation in the United Arab Emirates
	You'd go. Oh look at this propaganda look at this propaganda, but it's actually happening in America
	And what astonishes me is I don't think anyone's actually telling them to do it. I think they're voluntarily just
	censoring themselves or Propagandizing themselves let me know in the chat in the
	comments press the red button if you want to join us on Locals, but as an Englishman I am proud to welcome to our
	noble mighty country Joe Biden President of the United States
	We're going to be showing you a poll later where we asked you, who are you happiest being in charge of this current conflict?
	Is it Joe Biden?
	Would you like Trump in charge?
	Would you like next week's guest on the show, Ron DeSantis?
	Who was the other one?
	I can't remember.
	There's someone else.
	He's on a poll.
	I'll show you the answers in a minute.
	But first, let's have a look at Biden.
	Arriving in Downing Street, where he will meet the man that some people are calling a WEF stooge, Rishi Sunak.
	Sorry, I forgot the name of our actual Prime Minister.
	Just like Joe Biden did.
	Joe Biden forgot, I forgot, he's a pretty forgettable guy.
	His wife though, I remember her, she's got all sorts of hookups in the WEF.
	Plus billions.
	Allegedly.
	Well, they're not alleged.
	No, they're real.
	You can see the money.
	She paid her tax bill, yeah?
	No, she won't pay it.
	She won't pay.
	Let's have a look at Biden arriving in Downing Street, our seat of power.
	Journalists are in place, and I think here he comes.
	Speaking of the president, he has now left the car and two of them.
	He was that bothered, did he?
	No.
	It's like a very low-key arrival.
	People are just looking around.
	Have a look at some of the faces in the background.
	No one cares.
	There's the handshake.
	And that's it.
	That's it.
	That's the news.
	Here is the news.
	We want to talk to you, though, about a rather more significant story.
	Cluster bombs.
	Is it right to cluster bomb the people of Russia and Ukraine?
	Because the problem with cluster bombs is, of course, that they lie around for absolute ages.
	The first clip that I would like to show you is the... Oh no, that's in the censorship one, is it?
	Great news.
	Just introducing the concept of cluster bombs.
	Can we have a look at the poll result first and see who our viewers most would like?
	Oh look, I mean that's hardly surprising.
	With the USA sending cluster bombs to the Ukraine, who would you trust to bring this war to a conclusion?
	Biden, that's just 2% of you.
	Trump, 71% of you.
	RFK, 23% of you.
	And dissent is 4%.
	We're going to have to tell Ron that when he comes in next week when I say you're going to have to work harder to win over the trust of the public because it's still It's still the big man, and I don't mean Joe Biden.
	I don't like when I say that.
	Let's have a look at how ABC brought you the news of these cluster bombs.
	Tonight, the United States commits to supplying Ukraine with perhaps the most controversial weapon of this war so far.
	It was a very difficult decision on my part.
	Cluster munitions.
	It's a difficult decision.
	Does not mitigate children in the future having their legs blown off because of a shoddy choice in the past, does it?
	Cluster bombs.
	They spoke about Russia using cluster bombs last year.
	Have we got that clip actually?
	When America talks about the use of cluster bombs last year, it's because Russia were using them and they said it was reprehensible and in fact a war crime.
	Yeah, Jen Psaki, who was press secretary at the time, she said that the use of cluster bombs by Russia constitutes a war crime.
	NATO Secretary Jen Stoltenberg said we have seen the use of cluster bombs which will be in violation of international law.
	I see here that over a hundred nations, in fact 120 nations I think it is, have banned the use of cluster bombs because...
	Because they're dangerous.
	What I suppose this makes me feel is that this conflict is continuing to escalate.
	More and more escalatory measures are being taken, and by the same rationale that you can justify using cluster bombs.
	Have you got the guy saying why they're using them?
	Saying, look, we've got to use cluster bombs because in the event of a Russian advance, the situation will be worse.
	Do we have that clip of that dude saying that?
	By that rationale, you could justify using Anything at all?
	What's next?
	Nuclear weapons?
	Let me know in the chat.
	Do you think this could seriously become a nuclear conflict?
	Do you trust the people that are in charge of this war right now to steer us away from the apocalypse?
	I think one of the things that Tucker was most ardent about was that this war is a significant issue.
	He called it a red line on the show.
	He said that Trump's record on war is primarily what attracts him to I think he said he loves Trump didn't he said he loves Trump Well, what do you feel you guys join us over on locals press the red button?
	Let us know in the chat If you want a leader that is going to bring you away from the precipice of an escalating war It's becoming clear that there's an agenda to annihilate Russia to destabilize Russia.
	But the problem is History tells us, demonstrates to us plainly, Russia is not for the annihilating.
	They are a serious, powerful nation.
	Napoleon found that out.
	Hitler found that out.
	Is Joe Biden about to find that out?
	Let me know in the comments.
	Let me know in the chat if you think that checks are being written that the buck can't cash.
	To put it plainly.
	So this comes right after the Human Rights Watch issued a report that said Ukraine has killed its own citizens using cluster munitions.
	So it's, you know, this is affecting Ukrainian citizens and I think that's one of the things that people have been talking about, especially when it comes to, as you say, children.
	Yeah, is it like, you know like how the word cluster is usually used as a prefix for another phrase, like it's a cluster and then F word?
	I won't use it here, because swearing is not allowed on YouTube.
	Another thing I like about Rumble, as a matter of fact, is you can just freely use expletives, which sometimes seems necessary when critiquing the current administration.
	Is it strange that I thought of Kellogg's Honey Nut Crusters?
	Yes, it is, mate.
	Because I was talking about cluster F words.
	I wasn't talking about delicious breakfast cereals.
	They were delicious.
	But they were lovely.
	Bound together with honey, little bits of rice crispy, little bits of frosty, a little bit of nut.
	All delicious.
	From that maniac Kellogg who thought he could build a better future without alcohol simply using cornflakes.
	People are always thinking that in them days.
	You simply can't do it.
	Cluster bombs or cluster F words or delicious honey nut clusters.
	The whole thing is coming together in a seemingly despicable way.
	But to get back to the seriousness of it, obviously Biden was saying there, you know, I thought long and hard about it, this is not an easy decision for me.
	The United States has killed more people with cluster munitions than any other country.
	During the Vietnam War, the US dropped millions of cluster bombs in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos, and each country is still dealing with them to this day.
	Also, it seems like a pretty easy decision to make because it's a decision that they've simply made.
	This country, I don't think of it as your country anymore because it's a country that's been co-opted.
	It's a country that's being run, I would say, by deep state and corporate interests rather than a republic or a democracy, whatever term you prefer.
	I know you guys are very particular about that stuff.
	In any event, it seems that it's something that's become completely cut off from the will of the people and possibly that's because it's a propagandist state.
	I want to show you now how CNN have reported on that federal judgment that the government have to stop interfering in social media.
	I want to show you how that if this was broadcast anywhere else in the world, if these people happen to be wearing some kind of traditional dress, you would regard it as absolutely outlandish.
	You would identify and recognize it for what it is, propaganda.
	The state are pushing back through the Department of Justice on the recent judgment that they've got to stop interfering in social media posts.
	Unless it's criminal activity or matters of national security.
	They're pushing back on that.
	Look at how CNN report on this subject and tell me how this differs from propaganda.
	Have a look.
	Just reading the words in this injunction, a quote, massive effort by the defendants to suppress speech based on content, those are the judge's words, calling the present case quote, arguably involves the most massive attack against free speech in the United States history, Ellie.
	It's a dramatic decision by this judge, if you read through it.
	He's citing to literature and George Washington and Ben Franklin.
	Here's what... Those are pretty significant names in American history, particularly when it comes to constitutional and legislative rights for Americans.
	Like, why wouldn't you cite those names?
	It really is astonishing to me.
	This is a conservative ideology that clearly comes through in this decision.
	It's a conservative political ideology, right?
	We saw some of the Is it a conservative political ideology, free speech?
	When I grew up, free speech was transcendent of party politics.
	Everyone believed in free speech.
	Free speech was not on the table as an issue we were discussing.
	When did free speech become a right-wing issue?
	When did us being on Rumble become a... Oh, because Rumble, that's That's for far-right hate speech.
	I don't have no time for hatred.
	I don't believe in either political party.
	I believe in your right to run your own life and to run your own community.
	And I believe in democracy.
	And I believe that what might be right for me might not be right for you.
	And what might be right for the communities that I see myself affiliated with might not be right for your communities.
	And we're going to have different views because we've had different experiences.
	And if you shut down free speech, you shut down the possibility for conversation, you can't have democracy because you can't have debate and you can't have consensus.
	What's more, it's pretty plain that many of the issues that were censored were censored incorrectly and illegally.
	That there's evidence that your rights to free speech, your First Amendment rights, have already been breached.
	How can CNN report on this matter as if the judgment itself is the problem?
	Yeah, I mean, I just don't know how you can argue against something that the injunction issued barred government agencies from talking to social media companies for the purpose of, these are things, urging, encouraging, pressuring, or inducing in any manner the removal, deletion, suppression, or reduction of content containing protected free speech.
	That doesn't, to me, sound like a crazy, right-wing, Trump-appointed, mad decision to have made.
	Can you come up with an argument for us?
	Are we missing something?
	Tell me.
	I can see the argument they're making but it doesn't make sense.
	Let me know in the comments and the chat what it is they're trying to say.
	What is it that they believe in?
	Is this just pure propaganda now?
	Have a look.
	Obviously, we're on YouTube right now.
	When we're over the road in a second, click the link in the description, we'll get into that stuff in a little more detail.
	But that's not a political issue.
	It wouldn't be a political issue.
	Autonomy, freedom over your own anatomy, freedom over the kind of choices you make.
	How has these things become politicized?
	How are some issues becoming amplified?
	And how are they becoming The ruling itself is the opposite of judicial conservatism.
	This is one of the most aggressive, far-reaching rulings you'll ever see.
	What this judge is purporting to do is to micromanage, really, the day-to-day interactions between essentially the entire executive branch, all these agencies that are listed as defendants, and the leading social media companies.
	Can't micromanage the government when they're micromanaging you?
	When they're controlling your free speech?
	When they're controlling and manipulating your free speech?
	How can they use the term micromanage when they're talking about the government micromanaging your conversation?
	And as a further irony, there are certain things that I cannot say right now because This censorship is real and it's ongoing.
	Why is it happening?
	What do you think is the future for platforms that make a commitment for free speech without your support?
	That's why what you do and the decisions you make are integral, fundamental, vital.
	That's why it's important that you join us in a minute when we come off this platform.
	For micromanaging anyone, it would be to micromanage what the government can do, if anything.
	To be honest, what we've learned the last few years, it would be, yeah, we should micromanage the government.
	There's not a point where it's like, you've done so well in the last couple of years, we're gonna take the shackles off.
	This is not a time to run free!
	You did such a good job of shutting down debate, of censoring authentic voices, of closing down legitimate science.
	You've done so well, just have fun with it now.
	It's not like that, is it?
	Express yourself.
	Spring break!
	Censor whatever you want to censor!
	Shut down whatever you want to censor!
	Shut down some things that are true!
	Shut down things that you know to be true!
	Yeah, and for the, you know, media, for the press to be saying, essentially, the government, your government, who have the ability to do all sorts of things, should be left to it, shouldn't be under any kind of microscope, should not be micromanaged in any way by the public.
	It's incredible that you get that on a mainstream news outlet.
	What type of relationship do you want with your government?
	Do you see it as parental or do you see it as service?
	I've thought that public officials are meant to be in your service, whether that's legislative, bureaucratic, it's in the service of the people that fund them.
	It can't be that we are an authoritative structure that controls you like a parent.
	To believe in censorship, you have to believe that you yourself or that others are incapable of discerning truth from fiction, making decisions that you believe are valid, or you are inclined towards authoritarianism and want the ability to shut down opposition.
	That is not democracy.
	That is not freedom.
	That is repackaged tyranny.
	What that smacks off to me is that the lessons of the last century have been learned in so much as the aesthetics of totalitarianism have altered.
	No more jackboots, no more flags.
	But the ability to control is being veiled.
	It is being, I would say, sprinkled in saccharine, lubricated with sophistry and fine words.
	Yeah, and once again, CNN, the mouthpiece of the state, is doing what a lot of its critics say it does, and it's doing exactly that here.
	CNN, bundling your data more than pornography would.
	Selling it more than pornography would.
	So next time you're making a decision, CNN or the saucy stuff, now you know!
	In the actual temporary injunction, the judge basically says, you're not allowed, administration, to talk to these social media companies about any protected free speech except for cyber security threats, national security threats, criminal threats.
	But where's the line?
	Oh yeah, that's the line!
	Except for national security and criminality.
	That's a perfectly good line.
	Let me know in the comments in the chat if you think that there's a problem with that line, if there's anything wrong with it.
	You're gonna love this now.
	This is Karine Jean-Pierre we're gonna have a look at now.
	I feel for her as a matter of fact because I presume that people that get into this line of work are idealists, that believe in change, believe in politics and now like Jen Psaki before every single day she finds herself on the TV having to say this is why cluster bombs are good now this is why censorship is good now no young idealist who believes in politics wants to be a mouthpiece for a government that's blowing up children and controlling conversation have a look at this and I think the only you know the only thing that gets Jen Psaki and maybe
	carrying Jean-Pierre through difficult times like this, I reckon, is the jobs they're
	going to end up having afterwards. But let's have a look at her now justifying
	what is it cluster bombs? This is her saying why cluster bombs with the
	right accent are okay. Have a look.
	Some Democrats have said that giving cluster munitions to Ukraine undermines America's reputation as a human rights
	defender around the world.
	What's the White House response?
	We don't believe that it undermines our reputation of being human rights offenders.
	It really sounds like she says human rights offenders there.
	I think she's meant to be saying defenders, because that was in the question, but it really is one of those Freudian moments again.
	Have I accidentally said we're a human rights offender?
	Because of the cluster bombing, yes.
	We say all the time, right, when it comes to human rights, when it comes to having those conversations with either our partners or other heads of state, we certainly, the president never shies away from having those conversations.
	Difficult, that's difficult stuff.
	Have a look at the number of people that have held that position, that have gone on to have highly paid media positions.
	And this is a bipartisan issue, as it often is.
	Under Joe Biden, Jen Psaki, former press secretary, she's now working at MSNBC.
	You can see under Trump, all these guys that did that job have found their way onto Fox.
	And under Barack Obama, those characters got high paid jobs in media as well.
	And Corinne Jean-Pierre is a former analyst for MSNBC and NBC.
	So it's like a revolving door, in a sense, like it was famously observed by Chomsky, and I know what you're going to say about him in the comments now.
	It was said that by the time you're in that chair, doing that job, you have been pre-selected.
	These interlocking systems of education, of state, of media, of finance, of corporatism, are so porous That by the time you enter one you have been pre-schooled, pre-chewed by other institutions and your agreement and compliance has already been assured.
	A great quote by Julia Rock at The Lever, she says, uh, press secretaries aren't just speaking for the president, they're also auditioning for their future corporate employers.
	But the Democrats purport to be looking out for the interests of working people, and are oftentimes torn between policies that are popular among the base, but would upset corporate donors.
	And that's the situation these press secretaries find themselves in, is that they ultimately know, I'm gonna be going and working for MSNBC, I'm gonna have a plum job there.
	That they can't get to a point of doing anti-establishment messaging when they're speaking for the president, but also speaking for their future corporate employees.
	Wow, that's so incredible.
	You have to think about the job you're doing at the moment.
	OK, I have to make it sound that it's OK to cluster bomb children.
	But also, this has got to go well with a Pfizer commercial.
	There's a lot of balls to keep in the air.
	So respect to him for that.
	Now, if you're watching us on YouTube, we're going to have to say goodbye because we are going to be talking about January the 6th and how MSNBC have reported on it.
	And it gets tricky.
	There's some other stuff I want to talk about with Tucker as well.
	So if you're watching us on YouTube, click the link in the description.
	Join us over on Rumble where we can speak freely.
	And if you're watching us on Rumble right now, press the red button, join our locals community, a diverse and beautiful community that speak openly to one another, that regulate themselves freely and beautifully.
	So what's this story about January the 6th that we're talking about?
	Alright, so yeah, this is another piece, a bit like the CNN one, but this is MSNBC, and this guy's basically talking about how there couldn't possibly have been collusion between the FBI and social media companies around January 6th because of the events of January 6th.
	That's the evidence.
	Because if the state were colluding with social media companies, January 6th wouldn't have happened.
	They'd have been able to stop it.
	Except a lot of people believe that deep state agencies were potentially responsible for exacerbating, if not causing, those events.
	Of course, we've had the FBI whistleblowers on the show in the past.
	Stephen Friend, is it?
	It's not Paul O'Grady, it's Garrett O'Grady.
	It's Garrett O'Boyle.
	I didn't say one single part of his name right, but what I can tell you is that there's not a member of the Friend family that has not got a stick figure of me tattooed on their reproductive organ, which is something we're going to be offering.
	You know, if you're joining me for the community festival this weekend, where Wim Hof is coming, Vandana Shiva, many great freedom fighters, we're offering free tattoos to anyone who wants to even get, stay free, a stick figure of me, or that crow that we have as our logo.
	Does it all have to be on the genitals?
	I'm afraid there is a small charge if it's not on your reproductive organs.
	I might skip that one then.
	Come on, it's free!
	How much incentive do you need?
	Yeah, I love this clip.
	It's brilliant, this.
	So remember, Gareth just explained to you He says there can't have been collaboration between the state and social media agencies regarding January the 6th, otherwise January 6th wouldn't have happened.
	Let us know, Rumblers, by giving us a good hard rumble in where it hurts, what you think about that while you watch this clip.
	The argument, especially in the wake of January 6th, that the FBI was too synced up with Twitter or Facebook or any of these social media companies just sort of flies in the face of reality because obviously we saw what happened on January 6th itself.
	You know, the COVID misinformation stuff is a little bit more complicated.
	Yeah, that's it.
	That's all we'll give.
	The COVID misinformation stuff, that's just complicated.
	We won't get into that.
	What was complicated about it?
	Was it that you censored true information?
	Was it that legitimate voices of experts were shut down?
	That people that invented vaccines were called anti-vaxxers?
	People that had had vaccines but were concerned about certain demographics being offered them, like children?
	Oh yeah, I'm on Rumble.
	Exactly that.
	supporting them for children for which there was very little evidence that it was going to be of
	any benefit at all. It is absolutely outrageous. The conversation around myocarditis, the impact
	it's had on people that missed their regular treatment, the depression, all of this was just
	covered by... it's complicated. Yeah, exactly that. So MSNBC's position on this ruling about free
	speech is January 6th, there can't have been collusion because of the events of January 6th
	when as we know according to Michael Schellenberger and who's written about it and of course the
	whistleblowers, 100 to 200 Secret Service agents alone at the Capitol before the breach.
	And then the coverage of the complications around the pandemic stuff is just that, it's just
	complicated and we won't get into it. One to two hundred, that's like significant. I mean as a
	percentage of, let's call them insurrectionists, that appears to be the preferred term, that's a
	significant number. That's probably the biggest, there's probably more FBI agents than there were
	people with blonde hair.
	Right, right, sure.
	It's ridiculous, it's the biggest single demographic.
	Let me know how you feel about that censorship in a place where you can speak freely because
	we believe in freedom of speech and where freedom of speech meet you get free speech
	and where free speech meets you get freech.
	He's saying that they were using their free speech to say that they would get tattoos.
	Some reluctance to get them on the reproductive organ.
	Some people questioning whether or not that makes it a cult.
	Is this Russell cult?
	Is Russell's cult, says Ellen Sophia.
	Not really because it well...
	It is a cult.
	Oh, he's struggling.
	He shouldn't be struggling with that one.
	Straight away.
	No.
	You need a press secretary.
	That's what you need.
	Right, I'll be your press secretary in future.
	This is not a cult.
	This is not a cult.
	Yeah, like my press secretary said, well done, we're going to get you such a bloody good job on MSNBC.
	Thank you, thank you.
	You deserve your own show.
	I want my own show on Rumble.
	You can have your own show on Rumble, you're brilliant.
	The way you said this isn't a cult when actually it is.
	Oh no, I've done it again!
	Oh no.
	Why else would you tattoo a genital?
	All it is, is that bloke Stephen Friend, him tattoo himself on the nut bag.
	No, that was his brother.
	His brother tattooed himself on the nut bag.
	No, you're wrong.
	What it is, well, Stephen Friend's brother's got tattoos somewhere on his body, not the nutbag.
	That's correct, yes.
	Finally, the truth!
	After all of this, it's worth persevering because you will get to the truth eventually, won't you, if you try hard enough.
	I want to thank you lot.
	Three million of you watched our show with Tucker on Friday.
	Thank you so much for being part of this community.
	Thanks for supporting us.
	It meant a lot that we got that exclusive.
	We've got some stuff on it.
	I'm going to have to do one of my burps, Gal.
	Can you tell when they're coming?
	Can you hear in my voice when there's a burp coming?
	Here's one.
	Take that, Lord Almighty!
	Sweet bird of freedom!
	Fly so high I love thee!
	Shamans do it to belch out the evil spirits.
	This is not a cult.
	This is not a cult.
	I refer you to my press secretary.
	This is in praise of Tucker.
	It's in the category called in praise of Tucker.
	DawesFan1969.
	Most people think that Tucker is a hardcore Republican, but he's nothing of the sort.
	Russell and Tucker have more in common than people would imagine.
	And both want to expose the truth about what is going on.
	I had a lovely hang with Tucker.
	The two of us drove off together after the show.
	We had good chats.
	Wasn't he lovely to everyone in the team?
	He was absolutely adorable.
	Everyone loved him.
	It was a wonderful afternoon.
	And to that point about the Republican, he literally spoke about how much he loves RFK.
	I mean, RFK is a Democrat.
	How did the people that hate on Tucker deal with that?
	We asked him as well, you know that people say about dog whistle, like when he's talking
	about demographics and American politics, is that dog whistle racist?
	And he says he ain't racist.
	He's got views on immigration.
	Perhaps they're different views from some of you.
	Perhaps they're different views from me.
	But I don't feel like he's racist.
	Let me know in the comments and chat what you feel about that.
	Mramstom90, now that Tucker has shared the burden of the mainstream media, I believe
	he will become one of the most influential pundits of all time.
	For better or worse, Fox firing him is going to be the best thing that's ever happened.
	Yeah, good point.
	Anything about that, Gal?
	Well, look at the massive numbers on Twitter.
	So yeah, it's significant.
	It's significant.
	Davros200.
	Tucker equals the common sense American.
	The people absolutely love him.
	Viewers, here are some of you that have changed your mind about Tucker having seen that.
	Witshigo.
	I was never a fan of Tucker, but he's spot on for calling out the lies of the forever war machine and the big pharma cartel.
	I also respect him for calling for the release of Julian Assange.
	The extradition of Assange to the US will affect every single one of us.
	He'll be the final nail in the coffin for journalism.
	Who else, other than Tucker on Fox, was interviewing members of the Assange family?
	No one?
	Yeah, I wonder how they... When people... I'm going to ask him.
	I'm going to ask him.
	I'm going to ask some of my friends that are, like, liberals or whatever.
	I'm going to say, how do you feel, though, that he talks about Julian Assange?
	How do you feel, though, that he fronts up to the military-industrial complex and big pharma?
	This is what matters.
	Cultural issues are of course important but they fall under freedom.
	People's right to identify however they want to identify, to be whoever they want to be, that falls under freedom and it's a two-way street.
	Once you believe in that principle of freedom it resolves everything and to do that I think you have to push this decentralization stuff that me and my cult believe in.
	It's not a cult.
	I don't need a cult.
	What's the point of that?
	Come on, mate.
	Chaos Buddhists.
	I found Russell for the first time.
	This is people that had never even been here before and you came for the tucker.
	Straight for the fucker.
	I found... Sorry, I don't know why.
	I just did it because it rhymed.
	I don't know.
	It's just a joke.
	It's just a joke.
	I think that's fine.
	As your press secretary, I endorse that.
	Let's change his credit for that.
	He's good at this.
	I found Russell for the first time thanks to this interview.
	So I'm forever grateful to Tucker for bringing me into this world.
	Like he's a midwife.
	Tucker the midwife.
	Previs, just downloaded Rumble because you're interviewing Tucker.
	Just saying.
	Thank you very much, all of you, for supporting that.
	We've got great tweets from Glenn Greenwald and from Kane the Great.
	Did you say there's some more free speech on non-Tucker related stuff?
	Because I can't see it.
	I'd love to read out some more of your free speech.
	Or are we going to go to the viewer poll?
	We've done that already.
	We've done all of the poll stuff.
	Oh, the RFK challenge.
	Is that where we're going?
	Listen.
	Like Gail said, Tucker believes in freedom.
	And believing in freedom might mean anti-establishment figures like Trump.
	But anti-establishment figures, albeit with the surname Kennedy, like Robert M.
	We're at $31,000 already.
	If you want to make a donation, you can make a donation.
	It all goes to RFK's campaign.
	There is RFK pulling himself up with such beefy, meaty, well-defined arms that it makes me terrified.
	We're at $31,000 already. If you want to make a donation, you can make a donation.
	It all goes to RFK's campaign.
	As that goes up, do you get more and more nervous?
	Nervous, yeah. As I see that red line reaching like the letter E in the word raised.
	Once it's over the word raised, I'm going to be really scared.
	Then there's that other word raised at the bottom there.
	My fear levels, and I reckon my ability to do pull-ups is diminishing.
	I'm practising them.
	I can't even get the lid off!
	Show me that, show me that thing over there what I've just give you.
	Oh, there's some pills?
	This is gonna...
	Luckily, I've got a secret weapon in the war against RFK, I tells ya.
	And it's sweet lady ter-chestosterone.
	Mmm, this is like your Popeye's spinach, is it?
	I got- it's disgusting!
	Pete and Olives, I'm gonna take you down to Chinatown, RFK!
	Oh, I can't even get the lid off!
	I want me pudding!
	Look at RFK right now, backflipping himself!
	Like, look at him flip himself off.
	RFK, is there nothing he can't do, this guy?
	Is he 69?
	He is 69.
	He's got a sarcastic, silly age.
	He's 69.
	When he come on here with Sheryl Hines, I don't know what I'm going to do, gal.
	Thanks.
	Thank God I've got a sweet lady.
	Oh, you'll be alright.
	What's her name again?
	Turkestosterone.
	Thank God I've got this.
	This is good stuff, this.
	I'm pretty sure you can flip yourself off as well, though.
	I can flip?
	You better believe I can flip myself off, especially when I'm in turkestosterone.
	I've heard it.
	What kind of press secretary are you?
	Let's have a look at RFK flipping himself into another dimension.
	Where do you think he's at?
	I don't think I'd like to do that.
	I'd hit my head on the edge of the boat if I'd done that.
	I'm one of them people who's clumsy.
	When I watch Jackass or something, and they're doing them stunts, I think I'd die if I'd done that.
	It just would be, Russell Brown got on a skateboard, he's dead now.
	Or he tried to aggravate a lion.
	That makes me think about when you used to say that when you were a kid you wanted your mum to watch you swim.
	Mum!
	Mum, watch this!
	Watch!
	Mum, watch this!
	You're desperate for her to watch you swim.
	She thinks I'm a good swimmer.
	Does she?
	Yeah, of course she does.
	She still tells you that, doesn't she?
	I'm an only child, single mum.
	Everything I do she thinks is really good.
	Really good.
	Especially since I've been getting the old turkotestosterone down me.
	Turkotestosterone.
	Mmm, delicious.
	Never felt more powerful.
	What about when we've got those free speeches where people go, can you not take your top off please?
	It's getting on my wick.
	Do you want to talk a little bit about Fred's?
	Because, like, is it that?
	Mark Zuckerberg has started Fred's just to like annoy Elon Musk and also to provide a place like is it like that episode of The Simpsons where Homer Simpson becomes the head of the stonecutters and then they want Homer Simpson not to be in the stonecutters no more so they just start another group.
	Has Zuckerberg started Fred's just to have a place that they can censor?
	Well, I mean, this is, this, it does look very much like it is the censored version of Twitter, which is obviously the thing that everyone wants.
	No!
	Twitter!
	But all nice and censored!
	Do you know what's getting on my nose about Twitter?
	It's not censored enough.
	Yeah.
	He's, I mean, Zuckerberg has very much sold this on the friendly alternative to Twitter.
	I think there've been a few jibes at Twitter's expense also.
	But obviously what people have noticed, Michael Schellenberger writes, platform but it's not. Deamplifying anger. That's a magic
	bit of language. You see how good they're getting at propaganda now. We've got to just
	deamplify this anger. Like break this, break that down. That means turn down the volume on
	anger. And that doesn't mean anything. You can't do that. But what you could do is
	remove dissent, remove critiques of issues and subjects that you have a particular
	perspective on.
	How did Zuckerberg handle COVID?
	Well, you know that he was in direct contact with Anthony Fauci.
	He said, I'll do anything I can to help you.
	Zuckerberg admitted on Lex Friedman that they censored true and debatable information.
	And your man there on ABC, was he on ABC that and pundit we just shot?
	Oh, MSNBC, that was.
	MSNBC.
	He said, like, oh, it was, you know, it was a bit more complicated.
	It wasn't complicated, was it, Gareth?
	They censored true information, like Robert Malone, who invented RMNA technology, was censored because he was saying, this ain't the right way to handle this.
	You don't vaccinate during a pandemic.
	It's wrong.
	It will create new variants.
	People were saying all sorts of stuff that was not anti-the vax.
	Like, some of us, we all have very particular views, should we say, on those vaccines.
	But what is absolutely necessary is open conversation around the subject, not presuming that what you know is right for everybody.
	And so is Threadz.
	Let us know in the comments now.
	Join us over on Locals.
	Hit the red button and tell us, is Threadz just Twitter without the argy bargy?
	Well, I think it is.
	I mean, on the first day, so I think they've had 30 million signups, but on the first day of operations, users already reported having their posts taken down, mainly for political reasons.
	Some accounts, they say they are being blacklisted or greylisted.
	When you try and follow a problematic person on threads, you might be warned that their account has posted false information or has violated community guidelines.
	So all the things that were revealed by the Twitter files, all the things that Michael Schellenberg and Matt Taibbi have talked about, are literally now happening on this brand new platform.
	I can't believe that, that the result of the Twitter files, where people went, hey listen, the deep state are censoring you, there are literally FBI employees here pulling stuff down, they're censoring true information, there's a degree of collaboration that we could never have ever imagined.
	Oh, alright, well let's leave that one and set one where that continues to happen!
	Because they exposed it.
	Because Elon Musk is committed to preventing it.
	Even Elon Musk has admitted that if the EU introduces the laws that it's proposing that will allow them to censor and will mean that social media companies that don't censor content that the EU demands will be subject to fines that they'll be unable to handle.
	All around the world, in the Five Eyes countries, they're looking to find ways to reassert censorship.
	It's extraordinary.
	It's like people want to be censored.
	It is Ross and this is obviously there's a very kind of binary reporting of all this as well because now it's kind of Zuckerberg versus Musk thread versus Twitter but you know people have a lot of things to say about Elon Musk and about you know how censorship he's letting right-wing people in, he's platforming so-and-so but Facebook's owner Meta was fined 1.2 billion euros for mishandling people's data when transferring it between Europe and the United States.
	So, these privacy violations that Meta is getting fined a billion pounds for, or over a billion dollars for, you know, when this is, when obviously all the kind of positive reports that they're getting about Threads versus... They're saying Threads is great in the mainstream.
	Right, versus, you know, the negative publicity around Elon Musk and Twitter.
	That guy's getting so much hate and shade.
	Tamara Spencer says, I said from the beginning that Fred's was going to be a censorship platform for the government.
	Zuckerberg is still a government shill.
	God, do you agree with Tamara Spencer, you guys?
	KROD15.
	Yes, fuckerberg has become a political pawn in this game.
	Absolutely ridiculous.
	We've invited Mark Zuckerberg to come on our show.
	We'll let you know what he says.
	Kittiest Kid says, right under censorship comes forced speech.
	So, there you go.
	Like a lot of you appear to think that Fred's is essentially a pro-censorship platform.
	Oh here, someone's posted, account suspended.
	Like, uh, already people are, is that, that's from site zero.
	Thanks.
	Yeah, let us know what experiences you're having on there.
	Go on there and post some of your free speech.
	and see what happens.
	But you know, we know why this is happening and Zuckerberg admitting that it happened
	during the pandemic is also him kind of admitting, I'm powerless against it.
	Ultimately, I've got shareholders, I have to maintain a certain kind of image around
	this.
	Elon Musk, we know, is losing billions or certainly millions by not having advertisers
	come on to Twitter as a result of his ideas around free speech.
	So it's inevitable that this was going to happen.
	Mark Zuckerberg was never going to create an alternative to Twitter that embraced the
	kind of values that Elon Musk is embracing.
	That's the point of it.
	In a way, it's a good metric for observing what's happening now.
	Free speech is being conflated with hate speech.
	The safety is being equated with censorship.
	We're censoring you to keep you safe from hate speech.
	I think that gives us an obligation to be very Respectful, even reverential towards one another, and particularly respectful and loving to people we disagree with.
	To approach people in good faith, to believe in their right to hold different views from us.
	Because otherwise what they can legitimately do is go, oh Twitter, there's too much hate speech over there.
	We're going to start up Fred's and we're going to keep it all free from hate by allowing the deep state to curb that hate.
	Yeah.
	When we had Jack Dorsey on, he seems repentant.
	Now, some of you guys felt... I feel like some of you said you don't... Oh look, someone's used their logo to create 666.
	Nice!
	Well done.
	That is the sort of stuff I love.
	That's Tinaburo1973.
	Yikes!
	Have a look at that.
	You can see that in the local chat.
	Press the red button.
	I've just found something of it looking like 666.
	A picture paints a thousand words.
	If they've got the number of the beast on there, it's all over for me, baby!
	When Jack Dorsey was on, he seemed most repentant.
	He said that he's going to dedicate the rest of his life to creating decentralized platforms.
	He used a few phrases that have stuck with me.
	One is point of failure.
	Never have one point of failure.
	If there's one person that can be pressured into compliance, that's a weakness.
	That's why you need democracy.
	That's why you need consensus.
	That's why you need free speech.
	Because all of us are ultimately fallible in one way or another.
	If you have people that you love, you're vulnerable.
	Once you have children, once you have views, once you have a pain threshold, you're vulnerable to coercion.
	You're vulnerable to violence.
	That's why you need systems that mitigate our human fallibility, not systems that expediate our potential to be corrupted.
	Jack Dorsey, I believe that he is repentant for real.
	I believe, like when he says, I shouldn't have banned Trump, That's what he said.
	He goes, I don't agree with Trump.
	I shouldn't have banned Trump.
	Because when he was on here, obviously, I said, how come ISIS and all that lot were on there?
	Because ISIS, I mean, they're not great guys, are they?
	I don't know.
	I mean, I don't know too much about them.
	But I do remember them chopping off some heads.
	I mean, is that right?
	Is that worse than Donald Trump's crazy antics?
	Surely.
	And he seems to me repentant.
	Now, do you guys take that in good faith?
	Do you recognize that the Simpsons did it again?
	There is that.
	Nah, someone's changed that.
	That's not his normal thing.
	He looks like Matt Groening.
	His normal thing's Matt Groening's initials, isn't it?
	It's an MG.
	Is that a good logo?
	You could draw it pretty easy, I suppose.
	Do you like it?
	I already sort of feel like it's existed forever.
	Do you like that logo?
	I don't care about it.
	I don't really care about it.
	Good for a sex tree, not caring about it at all.
	Yeah, I feel like what you need, you can't have people in that position anymore.
	Do you agree with me, you lot?
	What needs to happen is a sort of breakup of those kind of institutions.
	That's what I reckon.
	Let me know what you guys think.
	Yeah, I mean, obviously we know the Biden administration is appealing this social media censorship ban at the moment, and a really good point that I saw earlier was the current administration and its media supporters like to talk about the importance of election integrity, but how about supporting the integrity of your judicial system?
	So, you know, when it comes to this federal judge made a decision that obviously we saw the CNN reaction to it, but it's a
	judicial reaction and what am I trying to say? The judge essentially made a decision.
	Yeah, it's a verdict based on evidence.
	Based on lots of evidence.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	If it suits them, they'll back it.
	If it doesn't suit them, they won't back it.
	It's like everything is cluster bombs now.
	Cluster bombs are bad when Russia uses them.
	Cluster bombs are good when we're selling them to Ukraine.
	Free speech is good when it's our free speech, not when it's people's free speech that we disagree with.
	That's a kind of nihilism.
	Beyond nihilism, it's an insidious materialism that does not allow for freedom for the other or freedom of conversation.
	That's why our conversation with Tucker was so important.
	We're going to stay here for a while.
	We're going to have a fantastic little session on locals together in a moment, and we're staying here for a bit longer.
	But here is my reflections and insights, as well as some further revelations from our conversation with Tucker.
	And here's the news.
	No, here's the effing news.
	Stay with us.
	It's the fucking news!
	Tucker Carlson gave us his first world exclusive interview since leaving Fox.
	Let's reflect on some of the things it revealed, some of the pushback, and one
	thing he didn't say.
	We were privileged to have Tucker Carlson come here for his first
	interview since leaving Fox News.
	We talked about January the 6th with Tucker saying that FBI agents were likely in the crowd.
	That's something that those FBI whistleblowers said when they came on our show before.
	We talked too about the Ukraine war and Tucker's belief that it is primarily motivated by the economic requirements of the military-industrial complex.
	We talked about the culture war.
	We talked about the reasons that he left Fox.
	It was amazing to have a person of his stature, magnitude, conviviality, congeniality, kindness, and indeed, let's face it, a controversial figure like him here on our premises as part of our media organisation.
	It shows me that media has changed now.
	that Tucker Carlson chose our organisation as the place to make these revelations is
	an indication that the mainstream is kind of over. Let me know if you agree with that
	in the comments. In fact, partly what it seems to me that our entire cultural conflict is
	defined by now is establishment authority trying to assert itself in conditions that
	are no longer appropriate for it. Put simply, technology and communications has changed
	This enables decentralised media and indeed political models to thrive.
	The establishment cannot afford or allow that.
	When I say the establishment, I mean anything from CNN to Fox to The FBI, to the CIA, to MI5, to the WHO.
	These are, by their nature, centralised authoritarian structures that require these new models to be restrained.
	Firstly, in a way, this is a victory for independent media.
	As Glenn Greenwald pointed out in his tweet, Russell Brand's live midday interview with Tucker Carlson on Rumble was watched by almost 1 million people within the first few hours.
	We're now nearly at 3 million.
	Numbers that CNN can't dream of matching ever, let alone in Friday daytime in late July.
	I suppose that shows you that media has changed now.
	The type of conversations that you want to listen to, the type of conversations that you want to participate in have altered and the mainstream can't keep up with that.
	People like that are seeking out independent media because the establishment is fundamentally conservative.
	I don't mean conservative politically, I mean wants to keep things the same.
	it whether it's the right thing to do. A popular figure like RFK emerges out of the Democrat
	establishment whilst attacking it, which I believe is what's necessary. They can't house
	him or frame him. People like that are seeking out independent media because the establishment
	is fundamentally conservative. I don't mean conservative politically, I mean wants to
	keep things the same. Preservative. Let's have a look at our conversation with Tucker
	Let's share some personal reflections.
	Like, for example, he was polite and kind to every single person here on the premises.
	He was an absolute joy to be around.
	There was a lot of tweets.
	There was a lot of coverage.
	Most of it extremely positive.
	Predictably, some people pushed back.
	But let's have a look at the conversation in a little more depth together.
	Right now that we're deeply embedded in Rumble, why the hell did you leave Fox?
	Tell us the truth!
	What are you not permitted to say?
	Tell us!
	Tell us!
	So do you think they sacked you because of Jan 6?
	Do you think they sacked you because you're too anti-establishment, too anti-war?
	Tell us.
	I honestly don't know.
	I will say, you know, my views changed dramatically over the course of 20 years.
	As I've said many times, I was a kind of half-hearted booster of the war in Iraq, which is hard to believe.
	But, you know, that was in 2003.
	And so my views for the last 20 years have been, and I've realized and I've repented of that.
	I feel sick even thinking about it now.
	But even if you're one of the people, and let me know in the comments if you are,
	that believes that Tucker Carlson is a nefarious influence in the media,
	do you not think that that's good?
	That he says, I was wrong in my report on the Iraq war and I feel guilty and ashamed.
	Have you seen anybody else like Tony Blair or George W. Bush or any of the people
	that were reporting at that time?
	Remember, they were Republican politicians in the United States, Labor in our country,
	so left wing in our country, the UK.
	Have you seen anyone else offer up a mere culprit like that?
	How do people fit that into their framework of condemnation when people are like, oh, he's just doing that in order to,
	what, how do you make sense of that?
	But my views have remained pretty much the same They've evolved, you know, as things have changed.
	But in general, I've been skeptical of the storylines and all kinds of different things.
	And I certainly was for the 14 years I was at Fox.
	And they were always, they didn't agree with me, of course, I don't think, but they were always very nice to me and they always let me say what I wanted.
	Not one time did they tell me not to say anything.
	So I was always grateful to Fox and I am in retrospect grateful to Fox for that.
	So that never changed up until the moment they called me and said, you know, we're taking the show off the air.
	And so I can only speculate.
	I know, but I do think as a general matter, not even about me, the war in Ukraine is a red line for For a lot of people in business and politics.
	And you see it in our politics in the U.S.
	where the leaders of the Republican Party in the Congress, who really are repulsive in my view, are now supporting sending cluster bombs to Ukraine.
	Ukraine is losing the war, obviously.
	The United States could, and Ukrainians are dying in huge numbers and the country's being destroyed.
	And so the U.S.
	could force a peace like tonight.
	They could.
	Uniquely, they have that power.
	And they won't.
	And they're continuing to allow Ukrainians to be killed and the country to be devastated.
	So, I don't know their motive.
	I can only guess.
	But I know that if you criticize that, they really are intent on making you be quiet.
	January 6th clearly is one of the issues that drove Tucker out of Fox.
	What was it?
	Let me know what you think happened on that day that means this issue remains so contentious.
	Was it that there were government agents in the crowd?
	Do you think it was a false flag issue?
	That's not what Tucker says, obviously.
	Do you think it's been exploited to introduce new laws and to force forward surveillance and more ability to control and censor?
	Why was this date so significant in recent American political history?
	They immediately recoiled when you asked any questions about January 6th.
	And that was a tip off to me.
	I mean, I had no thought in my head as I watched this happen on television and in the subsequent weeks that U.S.
	law enforcement or military agencies had anything to do with it.
	That never crossed my mind.
	I never thought there was a false flag or anything like that.
	I'm not a conspiracist by temperament.
	I never thought that.
	And then I interviewed the chief of the Capitol Police.
	Steven Sund in an interview that was never aired on Fox by the way I was fired before it could air
	I'm gonna interview him again, but Steven Sund was the totally non-political
	Worked for Nancy Pelosi. I mean this was not some right-wing activist
	He was the chief of the Capitol Police on January 6th, then he said oh yeah, yeah that crowd was filled
	With federal agents what yes well He would know of course because he was in charge of
	security at the site One moment that I found fascinating let me know in the
	comments if you agree was Tucker's assertion that Trump is the most
	significant political force to emerge in America in the last 100 years.
	He compares him, of course, to that other great American populist, Teddy Roosevelt.
	What do you think Tucker meant about Trump being the most significant force?
	Do you think he means that Trump was a wrecking ball to the establishment, the swamp drainer?
	Do you think that Trump was the emergence of a different type of politics, a new populism?
	Do you think that Trump is the symptom of a dying establishment?
	Do you think that Trump is authentic when he says he's going to change things for small businesses, ordinary Americans, that he's going to make America great again?
	What do you think is the significance of Donald Trump?
	Plainly, well, literally, Tucker says he loves him.
	It seems you have occupied varying positions on Trump at various times.
	Where are you on Donald Trump now, and particularly perhaps how that relates to the emergence of radical anti-establishment figures within the Democrat Party, notably RFK?
	Where am I on Trump now?
	Well, I love Trump.
	Personally.
	I mean, I made a huge mistake last November in getting involved in American politics, something I've never done before.
	And making calls, you know, this guy's going to win.
	I think this is going to happen in this state.
	Meet your new governor, New York, stuff like that.
	And I was wrong on almost every call.
	I'm not a very astute political analyst.
	I'm not interested in politics.
	I never have been interested in politics.
	I'm interested in ideas.
	I'm interested in people.
	And so there's a primary going on in the United States between Trump and a bunch of other people, primarily Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, but others.
	Vivek Ramaswamy, for example.
	And I haven't said word one about it.
	Don't plan to.
	I, you know, I think looking back on this 10 years from now, assuming we're still around, I think we're going to see Trump's emergence as the most significant thing to happen in American politics in 100 years, because he reoriented the Republican Party against the wishes of Republican leaders.
	Uh, but when I think about Trump right now, so it's July of 2023, you know, I'm struck by his foreign policy views.
	You know, Trump is the only person, um, with stature in the Republican Party, really, who's saying, wait a second, you know, why are we supporting an endless war in Ukraine?
	And that, you know, leaving aside whether Trump's going to get the nomination or get elected president or would be a good president, you know, I can't even assess that.
	All I can say at this point is I'm so grateful that he has that position.
	He's right.
	And everyone in Washington's wrong.
	Everyone.
	And Trump is right on that question.
	And it's a big question.
	That war is reshaping the world.
	It's reshaping the economy of the world.
	It's reshaping populations.
	I mean, I was just in Romania last week.
	We still don't know what Tucker Carlson will do as a broadcaster, but it seems increasingly likely it will be as an independent media journalist.
	For now at least, he is operating within Twitter.
	Is that because his Fox contract prohibits other types of relationships?
	Let me know what you think in the comments.
	What did he think about Elon Musk and what is the nature of his financial relationship with, perhaps, the most powerful new media operator in the game, Elon Musk?
	We were all amongst us thinking, where will Tucker go?
	Will he be joining us on Rumble?
	Will you set up your own thing?
	What was it about your conversations with Elon Musk that led you to work there on Twitter?
	Well, I don't work for Elon.
	He's paid me zero money.
	I don't think I ever want to work for anyone again.
	I've done that.
	I'd like to make money.
	I mean, I've, you know, I think that's fair.
	I've made zero money since I left, and that's fine.
	But at some point I'd like to, but I'm not working for Elon Musk.
	He hasn't offered to hire me, and if he did, I wouldn't accept.
	But what he's done is offered me that what he's offered every other user of Twitter which is a you know a chance to broadcast Your views without a gatekeeper there.
	But I do think, you know, I think the technology at Twitter is my expectation is evolving.
	And I think, you know, the subscription model, you know, might work or might not.
	You know, I don't know, but I think it might.
	And and I plan to I plan to stay there.
	But what social media offer in the short term, at least for me, is an audience, but also a reason.
	This is personal, but a reason to write.
	I can't think clearly without writing.
	You know, I started in this business as a magazine writer and a book writer, newspaper writer, and I need to write things out.
	I'm very dyslexic and I can't, you know, I have trouble processing information in certain ways.
	And unless I'm forced to write a script, I can't really decide what I think about something.
	and so the daily or regular discipline of writing a script forces me,
	and in some cases it really is forced, I don't want to do it, I'd much rather go fishing or bird hunting,
	you know, I would, but if I have to I will, and there's something wonderful in that,
	you know, writing a script as you know, forces you to think through everything about the issue,
	to have a much deeper understanding of it, at least for me that's true.
	Well let me know what questions do you think I should have asked Tucker Carlson.
	What would you have liked to have seen more of?
	Are you excited about the way that independent media is shaping up?
	Do you share my belief that independent media and independent politics are now forever enmeshed?
	In a sense, it's one movement, because if you're anti-surveillance, anti-censorship, anti-globalism, anti-authoritarianism, Anti-closing-down-debate and closing-down-conversation, anti-bad-faith-conflagration-causing-reporting, then necessarily you're going to have to convey that through media, and in order to change it, you're going to have to become politicised.
	That's why I regard what we're doing now more as a movement.
	Than as a broadcast channel in the conventional sense.
	I know we have an obligation to you and I hope you feel you have an obligation to us to continue to watch us, to share our content, to guide us, to let us know when we've made mistakes, to let us know when we are guilty of the errors that the mainstream makes, removing nuance, personal biases, deliberate manipulation.
	Stay in contact with us.
	Let me know what you think in the chat.
	See you in a second.
	Thank you for choosing Fox News.
	Good day.
	No.
	Here's the fucking news.
	Clancy of Hearts 25, she say, Get Tucker, come to Rumble!
	We're trying to get Tucker a Cummerumble.
	Cummerumble, Tucker!
	Cummerumble, Tucker!
	Not pictured, says WonderWild09.
	Tucker loves dogs.
	We can all unify over that.
	Yes, he does, doesn't he?
	And also, he was nice to you, wasn't he?
	Lovely.
	He was ever so kind to you.
	He was actually very complimentary.
	He said he liked you on the... What was he talking about there?
	Yeah.
	He said he loved you on the show.
	I saw you!
	You were great!
	I was great.
	I really liked you.
	Yeah, it was one of the best compliments I've ever had.
	No, I'm always giving you compliments.
	No, I know, but you know.
	Oh, you're used to them.
	My compliments have worn off.
	What kind of press secretary are you?
	You can't even defend me from making this sound like a cult and appreciate my compliments properly.
	Hey, listen you lot, guess what we're going to do?
	We're going to go exclusively onto Locals now and we're going to show that bit of Trump and Rogan cuddling and all that and talk about that, plus we'll take your questions.
	Listen, if you're a member of Locals, sometimes you can join interviews live, like when I talked to Eckhart Tolle in about a month, plus Oliver Stone coming up soon, plus Ron DeSantis, he coming up a couple of days now, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	What are we going to say to Ron DeSantis?
	I've not thought about it.
	I'm crazy, baby!
	Why did you do that?
	Look at that face.
	That wasn't that surprising.
	Was that that surprising?
	I don't know.
	It's because of the bloody Turkomester stones.
	That's right, yeah.
	These tablets, give me another one of those.
	These tablets have got a lot to answer for, you know.
	They're making me more powerful than ever!
	Whereas Zeus is growing weaker!
	So listen, yeah, that's why you want to join us on Locals.
	Press the red button, get yourself turkestosterone up to within an inch of your life.
	We've got Jim Caviezel and Tim Ballard coming on, talking about Sound of Freedom that everyone's all up in arms about.
	There they are, couple of lovely darlings.
	Him there on the left, he played JC.
	Now he's playing this dude on his side there.
	This fella's been on the...
	I bet they have, mate.
	They'd be all over it, them lot.
	Look at them.
	They're buffers.
	They're hench.
	They're enormous.
	They'd be all over it.
	Now, this guy, Geisel, Sound of Freedom fella, he's made a film about, like, basically, don't nonce, stop child sex trafficking, which I thought would be an issue we'd all be able to unite around.
	Like, like, I don't know, you don't want the earth to be sort of blown up by killer aliens or don't chop... I mean, like, there's so many... Cluster bombs?
	Cluster!
	Cluster bombs!
	Another one of the classic issues that surely we all see as being the same.
	He's a bit like John Travolta, the fella on the left, isn't he?
	The main guy.
	Tim Ballard.
	So we're going to have them on.
	They're going to be talking about that film that's doing better than Indiana Jones in the supermarket charts.
	Is that the fella that played Jesus?
	He played Jesus.
	He was pretending to be Jesus.
	How are you going to feel about that?
	Actually, I'm a bit angry about that.
	But, guess what?
	Right, well, I've actually got something good for you here.
	You're gonna love this.
	This is an exclusive.
	Get ready for this.
	The Geezer, right, this is made by the people that made The Chosen, which was a series some of you will know about our Lord and Saviour J.C.
	Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Lamb.
	Well, the Geezer that played Jesus in it, when I was on ballers with The Rock, he was my body double!
	Jesus was my body double, baby!
	Yeah!
	So...
	Bear!
	That's good though, isn't it?
	I guess it's good.
	It's just coincidence, isn't it?
	No.
	And then Jim Careasle there, what I'm going to say to him is, look mate, you may have been Jesus in a film, but I had Jesus as my body double.
	You know.
	Are you saying that you're meeting people who have played Jesus in some form?
	In order to challenge them.
	And therefore that means that I could be... Possibly.
	Let's consider it.
	Maybe.
	We haven't started a movement.
	Free speech.
	May.
	This is not a cult.
	This is not a cult.
	Sound of Freedom, that film's called.
	Why, what was I calling it?
	I thought I was calling it Sound of Freedom.
	Someone's put up Sound of Freedom.
	Yeah, Sound of Freedom.
	Listen, us guys is going over to locals now.
	On tomorrow's show, we've got Adam Andrzejewski.
	You'll love this guy.
	Look at what a darling he is.
	He's so respectful.
	He calls me Mr. Brad.
	He does.
	He goes, look at all these secrets.
	He goes in and gets secrets about how much money, your taxpayer money's been wasted on crazy... They spent over 10 million dollars teaching monkeys to suck dicks!
	Well, you say wasted, I say invested.
	Like, he's got some brilliant crazy views.
	Plus... I'll be one of the trialists!
	Oh, shoot!
	Who's to say the little fellas can't do it?
	Bring on another baboon, I tell thee!
	At least they took the clinical trials.
	Yeah, do you remember?
	We've got eight mouses that say that the Moderna vaccine's gonna be good for your little children.
	The Critical Drinker is on there, that's true.
	It was only about eight mouses that they used, wasn't it?
	It was eight, exactly.
	It's not enough mouses, is it?
	If you're gonna do a test on mouses, get nine.
	Right.
	Up to twelve mouses, I'd say.
	Critical Drinker's on on Friday.
	We're going to be talking, you know Critical Drinker from YouTube?
	He's coming on.
	We're going to be talking to him about films, culture wars, the ransacking of heritage projects like Indiana Jones, all that.
	You'll love it.
	It's brilliant.
	You'll love it.
	People that are members of Locals can see that early.
	Stay with us now on Locals to see us talk about Joe Rogan meeting Trump, plus taking more of your questions.
	Let me see if you've got a question in here.
	Love flows.
	Yeah, nice.
	That's not a question, that's a statement.
	Wait a sec.
	Hold on a sec, let's see what people are saying now.
	Team Locals, yeah!
	Get JP on here, yeah!
	Get Asika Shakur!
	Rogan, Rogan!
	Says Carole and Jeep Junk.
	People are crazy in there.
	They're crazy, they're out of their minds.
	This is great fun over there.
	You're going to have a good time.
	Join us there.
	Sweet Terkester Tosterone.
	One of the nicest tablets there, Lord.
	Eri did breathe into me.
	See you in a second.
	Click on the red button on your screen now to join us for an extended show.
	And then join us tomorrow for, who did I say?
	Andrew Andrzejewski.
	I'm high as a kite, man.
	Join us tomorrow, not for more of the same, but for more of the different.
	Until then, unless you're on Locals right now, press the red button.
	Stay free!
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