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May 23, 2023 - Stay Free - Russel Brand
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Epstein BLACKMAILED Gates & FBI Whistleblower Revelations!! - #135 - Stay Free With Russell Brand
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In this video, I'm going to be showing you how to make a 3D model of a 3D model of a 3D
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Like angry mob justice, baby.
Hello, you awakening wonders.
Thanks for joining me on this voyage to truth and freedom.
Within you, even now, there is a great awakening light.
And together, we can fuel this light.
How?
With truth.
Today, we will be revealing yet more about the FBI lies of Jan 6.
I can't believe it.
Are we going to talk about that?
Yeah, we certainly are.
You are the best on-screen assistant money could buy.
You really are.
Well, do you want to be careful about the truth?
Can't you handle the truth?
We're on Rumble right now.
If you're watching us on YouTube, I don't blame you.
You could be one of the 6.4 million awakening wonders that is turning that platform that is potentially highly regulated, possibly by the WHO, Also by an algorithm and commercial interests into a place of freedom.
Can we build a new Jerusalem here in cyberspace?
Of course we bloody well didn't.
Now, what about this?
There's more revelations about, um, I'm sorry to say this, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but there's more revelations about Bill Gates and Epstein and blackmail.
This comes from a mainstream media source.
I do sometimes think, like, whoever Allegedly!
Allegedly!
What they say he's impaled himself on a spear.
Oh, and blew up his head like Wile E. Coyote in a cell somewhere.
Official report.
Official report by Mr. Wile E. Coyote.
He hung himself on an endless shoelace.
Allegedly!
Like, whoever it was that did that, they're good at mur- I'd say, if it were that he were murdered, it would have to be someone who's very good at murdering people under difficult and tricky circumstances, because they weren't able to get someone into that high security thing.
Murder, get out, no one found out about it.
So anyway, so we've got more- Well, you're discounting the inside job there.
What do you mean inside?
Yeah, we'd have to get someone on the inside, but I'm saying they've got good reach.
Absolutely.
Very good reach.
Very, very, very good reach.
If that happened, yes, they would have.
Allegedly.
We're going to be talking about, on our presentation, here's the news, we're talking about Elon and, ironically, conspiracy theories, and his assertion that many of these conspiracy theories under scrutiny and analysis are not conspiracy theories at all, Rather dissenting views that are outside the mainstream establishment narrative, which of course ultimately always ends up being about centralizing authority and being able to control financial outcomes and assert dominion.
There's a blackout on Biden's business bombshells, baby.
Did you know that?
Well, not on this channel, there ain't.
We'll be talking about it.
Also, we've got William Hartung, baby, exposing corruption in the military-industrial complex.
I know some of you are doing a drinking game, where every time I say military-industrial complex, you have a drink, and some of you are suffering from alcoholism as a result, because I'm always going on about it.
Well, I'm so sorry for telling the truth, Theo, about important stuff.
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Epstein was a tour for the... Ooh, no, no, CIA.
Allegedly.
You can't say that, can they?
Can they say that?
You've just described exactly how he was potentially murdered.
I don't think that's... Look, I'm trying to... Whatever they said, that's probably what happened.
That is probably what happened.
So, listen, he probably ended his own life after a difficult day down in the old... I think you're going to have to move off.
Are we going to?
Can we stay on YouTube?
Because I've got stuff to say.
Did you know that the BBC have started a new verification wing that they're presenting like it's some sort of colourful Teletubbies delight?
Oh, we're going to be verifying you and stuff like that.
Funded.
In extraordinary ways.
We'll talk about that when we leave YouTube in a second, not indefinitely.
We will always remain there to support you, our 6.4 million.
But, before we get into William Hartung exposing corruption from, you guessed it, military-industrial conflicts.
Skol!
We're going to talk to you a little bit about some fun news.
You know Buddy Boy Teixeira?
Some people call him that.
He's a little lad.
He's only about this big.
What he done was he went on a chat room and revealed a bunch of Pentagon secrets.
Pentagon Papers Part Deux.
Well, they're discrediting him like nuts over on Jake Tipper's CNN show.
Let's have a look.
A Massachusetts judge deciding that 21-year-old airman Jack Tashira will stay behind bars while awaiting trial.
Tashira charged with leaking troves of sensitive classified data.
Troves of, uh, treasure words are sneaking in.
I'm hearing a lot of words like treasure, piracy, argh, gym lad, all of it sneaking into the mainstream lexicon.
There are also terms like sensitive information, but at no point does he say, which we should probably have access to some of that sensitive information.
Should have told you that, especially if it relates to uh this ongoing war this war that you're paying for that you're funding did you want to know about it or should we just just do what we want to do we'll focus on the things that he has done look how little he is he's only about that big look that's that's him if he was stood there he'd only be as high as he was in that picture a little limpet of a lad it's online in addition he was allegedly not particularly shy about his love of guns and racist and anti-semitic views now air force memos show
of guns and anti-semitic views i love these views of mine he says to himself in his consciousness
his supervisors had previously warned him three times to stop deep diving into classified material
they even offered to i feel like if you are like in the military and you have to
warn one of your subordinates yeah more than once actually I think so.
Like, they're not cut out for life in the military.
Like, in the military, as you know, remember I was in the Marines that day.
Now, one of the things we prided ourselves on, me and the other Marines, was our discipline.
That's right.
So you didn't leak one file that day, I remember.
I leaked a couple of files, Scout!
I popped out and leaked a couple of files to some of the others.
Right, I wasn't aware of that.
But, by God, if my Sergeant Major said jump, I'd say, how high?
I know.
Yeah.
Allegedly.
No, we don't.
Sure.
Straight away back to him, I was going to say, not like Buddy Boy, Tech Sharer, three
warnings they gave him, he's still leaking all over the cafe.
He's leaking like Joe Biden's catheter!
Allegedly.
We don't even know that he's got one, do we?
And if he did have one, he'd probably have it all screwed up nicely, wouldn't he?
Because his missus is a doctor, you'd take care of things like that, wouldn't you?
Allegedly.
The thing about that report... Have you got something important to say, mate?
Well, it's not, I guess, I don't know if it's important, but that's exactly what they do, don't they?
They focus on, I mean, even when they're mentioning his, like, love of guns, it's like, let's focus on the individual and the things that we can dig up about him that may or may not be true, rather than the actual things that he had to say.
Antisemitism is wrong.
Focus on antisemitism rather than revelations.
I have a little saying that I learned from people that have educated me.
Principles, not personalities.
Don't get infatuated by personalities.
Think of the principles and the values behind them.
Authenticity, sincerity, truthfulness, honour, valour, service.
These are all important ideas.
Especially in the bouncy castle business, Gal.
Bouncy castles... Mainly, I would say.
That's where they emanate from.
That's the epicenter of those values.
In America, you call them jump castles or jump parties.
What do you call them?
Let us know in the chat.
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Join us on Locals.
Tell us the answer to that question.
In England, we call them bouncy castles.
Bouncy.
I don't know what you call them in America.
In a minute, we're going to talk about the FBI suspending three whistleblowers who simply wanted to tell you the truth about January 6th.
If you're watching this thinking, why is this guy, this guy talking about jump castles?
In a minute you'll be thinking, why is this guy telling us some hard home truths about the infiltration of January 6th protests by CIA assets.
Allegedly!
Potentially across deep state agencies, numbering in the hundreds.
That's allegedly... Allegedly!
For now, that's allegedly for now, but it's some important information and given that the FBI are treating these whistleblowers appallingly.
Right, there's got to be something going on.
Anyway, before that, there's this man who's got a bouncy castle business and he don't mind whose toes he has to step on to make it work.
Let's have a look.
A jealous jumping castle operator has been jailed for 11 years over a failed plot... Australia, is that?
Yes, Australia.
From their accents.
...to ruin his rivals.
The Melbourne... Dramatic scene.
Yeah.
On that Australia... Flames.
Flames, this guy, like...
Normally when you see that shot of someone, that glassy-eyed stare, it's Dharma, isn't it?
It's Geoffrey Dharma.
He's someone who guzzles people down after they've had their wicked way, isn't it?
Normally.
Nine times out of ten!
Isn't it, mate?
Yeah, he's done worse than deflate a few bouncy castles.
Yeah, I'd say.
I mean, deflating bouncy castles, that's out of order.
If you make your livelihood out of castles that are pneumatic, filled with air, and you jump up and down them, dangerous in themselves, but not as dangerous as dinner with Jeffrey Dahmer, what's the second course?
I've been enjoying this first bit.
You're the third course, mate.
That's what we're having next, is little bits of you.
Correct.
I was going to make a not as bad as... No.
You made a dinner with Jeffrey Dahmer joke.
I was going to say dinner with Jeffrey Epstein.
Let me know in the chat what jokes you would do about that because they're quite saucy ones.
Available.
Bouncy castles need bouncy bouncers.
My dinner with Dahmer.
Does Russ read paid comments?
Does Russ only read paid comments?
Well, you've not paid Frenchie Riff.
In fact, none of them are paid because we don't really push that.
That you can pay.
And if you did pay, we'd give the money to drug addicts.
So, what's wrong with that?
It depends.
What if they're still using drugs?
They'd go and take drugs, wouldn't they?
Of course they would.
William Hartung's coming up later to talk to us about the military industrial complex.
Drug, drug, drug!
But let's find out a bit more about these bouncy castles before we tell you that the FBI broke the law nearly 300,000 times spying, if you're an American, on you.
Potentially.
It's not definitely you, but you probably, maybe one of the 300,000 people could be watching.
Yeah.
It's a good chance.
That's a significant percentage of adult Americans that have got access to the internet.
So what is that?
It's probably a 1% chance.
It's a 1% chance.
I don't know, I literally just made that up.
Yeah, we just made that up.
But, uh-oh, the BBC Verification Unit, they'll be on you, they'll be all over you, like their presenters in the 80s.
Allegedly!
That's just an alleged thing.
All right, okay, so listen, um, let's have a... I want to know about this Bouncy Castle guy, why are we not concentrating?
An operator waged war against his competition, burning down their businesses to send them broke.
James Balcombe was a bouncy castle baron who wanted to be king.
So he... Alright he's a baron but he wanted to be king. He's like Macbeth. He wanted to be king. He can use the rest of
your body to say things not just your sinuses. He He was a baron, a bouncy castle baron, but he wanted to be king.
Like Macbeth, that is.
Macbeth's a thane, but hang on, shall we kill King Duncan and become king?
Oh, don't know about that, mate.
You'll be wrapped with terrible guilt.
Will it be worth all the trouble?
Yeah, yeah, says his wife, but then she actually suffers more than him in the end.
Yep.
Macbeth, everyone.
There you go.
...ordered arson attacks on rival party hire businesses in a bid to rule them all.
We lost 1.2...
Someone here says, someone here goes, look, uh, neon grammarian, cannibalism is a very bad idea,
you could end up with a very nasty prion disease called...
can it move forwards?
Oh man.
...called Kuru.
That's a disease you can get from eating flesh.
Okay.
So think twice guys.
I've been counting everything inside.
Everybody was worried because I was scared they were going to be next.
Balcombe was today sentenced to...
I'm sorry, that scared the...
Everyone was scared in case they were going to be next.
How many bouncy castle businesses are there?
Actually, Gareth, it's a surprising number.
Wait till you see.
He was going around on a sort of a rampage.
I see.
I'd say very much the Genghis Khan of bouncy castles.
But a bouncy castle Genghis Khan, to me, sounds adorable.
11 years behind bars for orchestrating 10 attacks.
He then arranged for his own warehouse to be... To be honest, the market was flooded with bouncy cars.
Too many of them.
That's too many in a concentrated area, isn't it?
Far too many.
You need to concentrate that.
This is one of the areas where you do need monopolisation.
Not like in the online space, where you suddenly learn Facebook.
You know how the CIA... Politically.
...were involved in setting up Google and stuff like that, and then they were sort of monopolising to an enormous degree.
Bouncy Castle business could do a bit of that.
Sure.
If you are a CIA or FBI watching this, and we know you are, monopolise the bloody Bouncy Castle business.
It's out of control.
They're setting fire to each other because of the competition.
...burned to throw police off the scent.
You embarked on a mission that caused loss and damage to others in varying degrees, and also... Varying degrees.
Didn't need that bit.
Good, because what's the alternative?
Like, to the exact same degree in each case.
I don't know how you did it, but it's incredible.
Also, I don't know really how we measured this, but we found a way.
Because people are different.
Everyone's different.
They've got different pasts, different emotional things.
Connections to their bouncy castle business.
In fact, you should be applauded.
Well done.
There's no variation.
Freedom!
We're letting you go.
We're letting you loose.
Get out there and run the best damn... You're a scientist.
You're brilliant.
I don't know how you did it.
You get out there and you run a bouncy castle business and burn down your rivals if that's what it takes.
And your own, like you did.
Well done.
Where eventually, like, he had no... He's like Alexander the Great.
He had no mountains left to conquer.
No.
That's it.
I've burned down every bouncy castle.
Oh, there's one that's left.
This one's doing well.
But this is your own bouncy castle, Ben.
It doesn't matter.
I'm still jealous.
I'm jealous of myself.
I'm so sexy, I'm jealous of myself.
My right hand be jealous of my left hand.
I so sexy.
I jealous of myself.
Later on, we're going to be talking about the FBI wrongfully suspending three whistleblowers who revealed malfeasance within the agency and that they broke the law 300,000 times.
There you go.
In case you thought I was making up, I'm not.
That's from the Washington Examiner.
Shall we get into this story, Gail?
Is there anything else you'd like to know about the bouncy castle baron of Australia?
We can get into this.
Coming in.
I got facts.
I got facts about this, my friend.
Actual facts.
So, sit exactly where you are.
Right.
The FBI has wrongfully suspended these whistleblowers.
Gareth, you'll be astonished to learn.
Wrongfully?
It depends what you mean.
I mean, for them, I guess they were revealing things about the FBI that didn't appeal to the FBI.
So, for the FBI, it was the right way to deal with them.
It's very much like if you're running a bouncy castle business.
I'll show you.
I can't cope with these.
These people are undercutting my prices.
How am I supposed to run a business?
They're offering a half-day rate for one whole day's access to a bouncy castle.
How can I compete?
What if I burn down their wearer?
The FBI obviously have it.
Perhaps that is The FBI.
Who knows?
Already.
We would never know.
Allegedly.
We wouldn't know.
They get about.
They do get around, round, get around, I get around.
Anyway, these FBI employees testified to the House Weaponization Subcommittee about the shocking abuses they observed and the vicious retaliation they suffered from the Bureau after they made protected whistleblower complaints.
Oh, you men would be allowed to do that.
Having suspended them without pay, he refused to release records that would allow them to seek other employment and leaked personal information about them
into the media the FBI stripped their security clearances before they went
to Washington. I bet you know more about this story though don't
you?
No, that was a very good summary.
Thank you very much I wrote that myself earlier.
And what makes it even worse is that the FBI broke the law over 300 or 278,000 times
that's under 300,000 with illegal searches on Americans.
They used section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Now tell
me a bit about that act, Gareth.
Well so this is the one that we were talking about last week that Joe Biden is trying to extend because it runs out the end of the year.
This is the one that like Snowden was revealing about this that was brought in during the kind of war on terror years of being able to apparently surveil foreign people but amazingly they seem to be able to surveil all American people at the same time which is an incredible coincidence how this keeps on happening.
So yeah nearly 300,000 people have been surveilled These are people, and bringing it back to the kind of Jan 6 protests, they were surveilling people involved in that, but also Black Lives Matter, so it was people kind of spanning the, you know, both sides of the political spectrum.
So whatever you're protesting for, chances are the FBI are giving you such a surveilling, you could say, I'm against police brutality and I'm protesting against the murder of George Floyd.
You're getting surveilled!
You could say I'm against the perceived complexity, contradictions and hypocrisy within the state.
I'm going to do the old January 6th protest.
You'll be surveilled.
There ain't nothing you can do the way you ain't going to get surveilled.
I like this sentence here.
Those performing the surveillance have routinely violated the procedures of the FISA law and continue to carry out queries and electronic spying on US citizens, claiming that such crimes were an inadvertent mistake.
An amazing amount of mistakes, nearly 300,000.
Done it again!
Oh no!
Burned down another bouncy castle where else?
Oh no!
Another bouncy castle where else?
This is in the period of one year.
That's a year's worth of errors.
Yeah.
Oh no, that's too cack-handed.
Let us know if someone makes a mistake 278,000 times.
At one point you go, look, you've not cut out for this.
Right.
You keep making blunders.
It's beginning to look like institutional corruption at this point.
If you're watching us on Rumble, join us over on Locals.
You can join the chat there, like Blessed Old Bird, who's talking about, oh no, they're just chatting about themselves.
Still talking about that.
Let's stop talking about cooking body parts, right?
What's happening in the chat, Gal, is they've gone into cannibalism.
Oh dear.
Hopefully just from a commentary perspective rather than exchanging recipes, although that is the sort of thing that would begin in a chat room on Rumble, I suspect.
Cannibalism?
No, we are all good people over here interested in...
So I guess the thing is, things like this, these aren't exactly the things that these whistleblowers are exposing about the FBI, but there are other things that have come up.
Obviously we had the report last week about Russiagate, which we know has now been fully debunked.
So there are things going on about the FBI seemingly every day, and now these whistleblowers kind of being treated in the way that they have been by the FBI when they're revealing these kind of things, I guess compounds it for us.
Because we start to think, well what the hell is going on at the FBI?
Oh, I'll tell you some of the things that have been going on lately, and you're going to love this, guys, because it pertains to January the 6th, and many people think that these whistleblowers first fell under scrutiny due to not towing the line with regard to that particular matter.
The FBI had undercover informants and agents in the crowd, it's been confirmed, during the January 6th protest.
There were undercover agents and informants from other law enforcement agencies as well, including the Washington DC Metro Police.
I didn't know that.
Indeed, there may have been hundreds of undercover government agents and informants, both local and federal, in the January 6th crowd.
That's what may have been.
According to one January 6th witness, there were 100 to 200 secret service agents alone at the Capitol.
Alone at the Capitol before and during the breach of the police barriers.
Allegedly.
Between 100 and 200.
That seems like a lot.
It's almost like every single person there Yeah, and I think this is a really key one.
One such individual, again this is allegedly at the moment because it's in a Congressional hearing so it can't be, you know, actual fact at this point.
Not confirmed, in case you're a person who's interested in saying things of disinformation so that you can shut down counter views.
Exactly.
One individual is alleged to have been in the crowd screaming, stop the steal, stop the steal and pushing protesters towards the Capitol building.
So then you start to ask yourself, well how much were these members of the Secret Service involved in what happened that day?
That's instigation, isn't it?
Now just picture the scene.
Now I know loads of you, let us know in the chat, join us in locals.
Loads of you will have examples of footage which you say looks like people were like dressing up in like MAGA caps and that, taking off their shiny shoes.
a dead giveaway and putting on their MAGA hats and shouting stuff like,
stop the steal, stop the steal, and then pushing protesters towards the Capitol building.
You'll be aware of many instances in the past where the FBI have gone beyond espionage
into actually setting up terrorist moves and movements.
I mean, there's a brilliant Chris Morris film about that.
There was a kidnap attempt.
I think the problem with all of this is that again, like you always say, Ross, is like kind of remove the issue and remove the personalities involved in all of it.
Do we want an organization that are doing things like potentially being part of, for example, Jan 6th?
and potentially inciting some of these incidents when we don't have access to any of that information
because what they're doing is polarizing us.
They're creating an event and saying, these are all these people that you hate, and on
the other side, these are all these people that you hate.
And it's polarizing the nation.
I think they're deliberately polarizing us, but they won't polarize you and I when they
figure out we're staying close.
Do you know that the majority of Americans don't trust the FBI?
Hardly surprising.
69% of voters believe the FBI violated its own standards.
Imagine that's the sort of thing you'd say to a disgraced spouse.
You violated your own standard!
Not only does 69% of saucy voters believe that they've done that, you know, with the Russia collusion stuff, 70% are concerned the Bureau will interfere in future elections.
Let me know in the chat, are you concerned that the FBI could dabble, interfere and meddle with future elections?
It's an interesting story.
We'll be looking at the FBI in more detail over the course of the week in Here's the News.
And I think now we might slip off slinkily to...
We're gonna leave YouTube, because I wanna talk about this.
I don't, in some ways I don't wanna talk about this.
Because whenever we talk about Epstein, I get edgy.
Because I know that Jeffrey Epstein, that's someone that was deep in the establishment.
Now we've been told by Whitney Webb, guest of this show, that what you should focus on is the financial improprieties.
That's where there's strong ties to some extremely powerful people.
Many of us get distracted by the salacious stuff, which is plainly criminal.
Criminal activity there going on.
But the financial stuff is yet more dangerous still.
Now obviously, Jeffrey Epstein, it's hardly news, had some pretty powerful connections.
What is surprising is that it's not spoken of publicly more often and explicitly.
Well, the reason for that is because of power.
You know that.
We're not going to talk about this on YouTube.
We can't talk about it on YouTube.
I assure you, That we are on rumble in order that we can speak freely, so that we can bring people together from across the political spectrum.
Remember what we said about the FBI story a moment ago?
They were surveilling George Floyd protesters.
They were surveilling Jan 6 protesters.
Now, according to the mainstream narrative, these are two separate polls, right?
I would see it differently.
I would say these are two groups of people utterly disenchanted with centralised state corruption.
I would say that all of those views are valuable and this is the kind of conversation we want to have and it's the kind of conversation we can only have on Rumble.
We're going to slip off to Rumble where we can speak freely, where it's like taking off a pair of very tight briefs and slipping into a very comfortable negligee.
Join us over there in that silky Fur-trimmed little number for a chin-wag momentarily.
I also want to do Freech, don't I?
Before we get into the... Did you like that image?
The imagery?
No, when I said chin-wag at the end of it... My chin!
My chin's a-wagging!
Sorry.
That's fine.
Because sometimes, after a bout of the old wass name, the chin is one of the areas that suffers.
That unsung hero.
The chin.
Know what I mean, hey?
Guys and gals.
Hey, why don't you join us in Locals?
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Like, people over here... Is that a dagger?
Please don't... Oh, no.
Let me go.
There's been loads more comments.
Let's go right down to the bottom here.
People having a nice time.
Jaws.
Sweet Jesus, Russell, says Claude.
Russell's on fire today, says Subi Koala.
Pviki.
I giggle every time what?
Infant sorrow.
Oh yeah, I was in that.
All right, join us over there.
Listen, so these are, well, talking of your views, here them are.
This is a place where we have free speech, or as I call it, Phreak.
Let's see what mangling has occurred in the graphics department of Stay Free Media with Phreak now.
Show the last title sequence, Phreak.
Look how offensive that font is that he's used there.
It's as basic as they come, isn't it?
It's blocky and awful.
It's so bad, isn't it?
It's like offensively bad on sort of every single level.
That's what he's done.
Isn't it weird how he's working?
He's just taking weird sound grabs.
He's like, I have the image of a hobo wandering down the side of a road, just snatching cans from a privet hedge, bundling it all into his shopping trolley and calling it a day's work.
That's what he's doing, isn't he?
He's very much a vagrant.
He's the graphics vagrant, is Jack.
Please, can you have a look at Jack?
Point him out through the window.
Jack, turn around and face your public, young man.
There.
Look at him.
His personality doesn't seem like someone who's doing that.
He seems so sort of relaxed, almost like one of the Franco brothers.
He's lackadaisical.
Very lackadaisical, handsome.
Doesn't care, does he?
No.
Isn't he extraordinary?
OK, look, here are some of the... Here is some of your freach.
Not that the graphic warrants your time and attention.
Central scrutiniser.
I hope Zelensky is going to be hiding somewhere in every show, because, look, we had Zelensky hiding.
That's right.
Very good.
There he is, Zelensky.
Who knows when he'll show up again next?
I don't know.
time couldn't he? Surprised visits. Because he showed up at the G70s, shows up all sorts
of places. It's your fam who says, yours Zelensky is hot, do you have a hot Putin too? Zelensky
is hot, we have a young Putin. Oh we do. Actually, even before Putin disgraced himself with that
criminal invasion of Ukraine, whether or not he was provoked, we used to always call this
lad in here, Will, young Putin.
Have a look at him.
He looks like, now if you can find, there's Young Putin.
Right, he also, you might be able to find an image of Putin when he was young, and you'll see that that's eerily like Young Putin.
So we've got Young Putin, we've got Hot Zelensky, who else do we have?
Says a lot about our hiring process, doesn't it?
It's equal opportunities, as long as you are a wartime leader in a contemporary conflict.
We will take you on board.
A blessed old boy says, Russell when your mind wanders into strange places does Gareth have a safe word to calm you
down?
It's usually no No
Is that actual young Putin?
That is young Putin, yeah.
I'm so confused.
Have a look there.
There's actual young Putin.
Now look again at our young Putin.
Go on, if you could.
Look at that.
It's like him.
It's uncanny, isn't it?
It's got the same sort of insouciant manner.
The sort of hubristic lower lip.
Everything of a young Putin.
Very much like someone who's going to join the KGB, be bored with the espionage and subtle murders of the oligarchical class, and then one day rise to president.
You've got to keep an eye on that, lad, is what I say.
Human doll.
Can we come and visit you at the studio?
Yes.
What can we bring as a gift?
Simply a lifetime of devotion.
That's all I ask.
All I ask for you is devotion.
Yeah, I've got a few requests, but... What do you want, Cal?
There's a long list.
Oh, here you go.
Nodugunoku says, I'm coming to live with Gareth, please give him a heads up.
Gareth, Noko Ndoko's coming to live with you, mate, so you might as well prepare the spare room and scrub out the bathtub.
I'd say, get that dirty ring from round your bathtub!
Oh, you've left your ring round the bath!
Thank God you said bathtub.
You've left your ring round the bath!
Right, come on, join us in locals and you can be commenting like this lot.
They say, he says that while rocking the Jesus look too, says Jay Gwyn Wild.
Yeah, Christ did up to the nines and I love our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and do not purport to be the... He was big into the big gold chains, wasn't he, Jesus?
Oh yeah, Jesus.
He was a bit like B.A.
Barakis, wasn't he?
In many ways, our Lord and Saviour Jesus.
Yeah, that is what it is.
I can no longer pretend to be normal for long enough for us to promote the show on YouTube.
mental health declines. Yeah that is what it is. I can no longer pretend to be normal for long enough for us to
promote the show on YouTube.
Loves his old tats, did Jesus and pity the fool says C Mason.
Alright.
Keep doing the show, says Mike Farley.
Hopefully this will lead to some sort of global revolution.
Yeah, I hope so.
It's possible.
Has Elon replied yet?
We've got some interesting news in the coming days about that, so do stay tuned.
Remember, if you join us on Locals, you see everything first.
Any live chats we do, you see first on Locals.
That's why it's important you press that red button and join us in Locals.
You get access to all sorts of stuff.
Yes, we have heard from Elon.
And then someone called dbobby19 says, did Jay Z like your rap?
We don't know, but Jamie, the producer, said that I should bring this up because somehow we're going to see it in some way.
Are we?
Is that today, Jamie?
Not today.
Still to come.
Still to come.
Cool.
Keep that in your consciousness over the coming days, because we'll be doing that.
All right.
So, shall we talk about... Shall we talk a little bit about Epstein?
I'm scared, girl!
What had he done now?
What had he done now to Epstein?
Once, when I was first famous, the press turned up at my mum's door.
They dorsed up bothering people all the time.
My poor old mum.
They go, we want to talk to you about Russia.
Well, what's he done this time?
And that's how I feel about Epstein.
What's he done now?
Look, it's more of the same.
This is from The Guardian.
Well, the Wall Street Journal did the investigation and so what they've uncovered is essentially, and it's alleged again, that Bill Gates had an affair with a young Russian bridge player in her twenties.
Brilliant.
A young Russian bridge player.
That is a tiny demographic.
There can't be many of them, can there?
You can probably find a young... I mean, if you can find a young Russian bridge player, that's going to be her, isn't it?
I mean, it's not like, which one of you young Russian bridge players had an affair with Bill Gates?
You, one who looks like a paperclip.
It's got to be that one, isn't it?
The one that sort of bounces up like that.
Yeah, could be.
Clippy.
Yeah.
Anyway, so he apparently, this was in 2010, she was in her 20s, he was much older, and essentially what is claimed here is that Epstein used this against Bill Gates.
So Epstein wanted Bill Gates to put in like a hundred million into this philanthropy fund that he was trying to get loads of big donors to contribute to and Epstein was going to make a lot of
money out of this in fees.
Also it was going to kind of whitewash his image after he'd literally been
arrested and charged with all those sex crimes which is again...
He'd already been done!
Yeah that's already happened but Bill Gates is still meeting him of course.
And so apparently Jeffrey Epstein paid for, after she decided that she didn't want to set up a
bridge website which was going to cost a load of money, she wanted to go through that coding school.
Jeffrey Epstein... Who wanted to go coding school?
Milla Antonova, yeah.
And this was post-affair with Bill Gates.
Epstein met her, paid for this course, and then later, after Bill Gates said, I'm not going to invest in this scheme of yours... Oh, this is salacious, man!
He wrote an email to Bill Gates saying, oh, will you owe me for Milla Antonova's That's mobster stuff, isn't it?
That's mobster stuff!
So he found out someone that had a connection to Bill Gates, allegedly, and paid for them to do a course and went, I did you a little favour.
Sorry I'm talking like that.
This is quite tight around my neck.
It's dodgy, man.
That's dodgy gear.
Because Bill Gates didn't say he only met him briefly.
Yeah, well, that is simply not true.
I only met him briefly when he paid... Oh, man.
Oh, I don't know, man.
The thing is, we're being watched right now by people that are sort of saying that this is a conspiratorial chat show.
So this is only information that's come from Washington Post.
This is Washington Post, New York Times, New York Times.
That's simply an allegation that's been made.
Doesn't look good.
I mean, whatever.
Jeffrey Epstein is one of those stories that contains a lot of energy in it.
There's a lot of sort of stuff that's sort of waiting to leak out.
Yeah.
And Bill Gates has massively tried to minimise his involvement with Epstein over the years, you know, in these interviews.
Whereas we know he has half a dozen meetings scheduled with Epstein.
He's been on his private jet.
They met in New York.
He's been on his private jet?
He's been on his private jet.
They've spent time in New York together.
Apparently he was trying to get Epstein to help him get the Nobel Peace Prize, which is amazing.
Who wanted the Nobel Peace Prize?
Bill Gates.
Could you help me get a Nobel Peace Prize?
Why would you turn to a sex offender?
Like, as if they were trying to set up a meeting for the Nobel Peace Prize.
I'd go to someone like, who already had one.
Right.
Tutu.
Sure, give us a bit of advice.
I'm going to you talking tutu.
Tutu, Mandela, your Peace Prizes.
You don't go to the nonce fraternity, cut them off at the knees.
If you want a Peace Prize, ask a nonce.
If you want a Peace Prize, ask a nonce.
You swerve them.
Double time, don't ya?
But I guess what this ultimately does, is this in microcosm, is what the conspiracy around Epstein is.
What is it?
He had dirt on very influential and powerful people, hence Bill Gates, and he could have used that against them.
And why would you want rid of someone who had lots of dirt against powerful people?
And what would you do to that person?
And then, there you go.
There's your kind of conclusions.
Oh dear.
Pushed it a bit too far, it seems.
So, why don't you join us over on Locals?
Press the red button.
There's some crazy stuff going there.
Geld.
Dante's Inferno has a place for Epstein.
Nice reference.
Well done.
I hope you don't let any FBI, DOJ, CIA subscribe to Locals.
Right.
If you are CIA, you're not actually allowed in locals.
Okay.
Or FBI.
Thanks.
This is a free speech platform, so, uh... Out you go!
Go on, git.
Go on, git.
Now, we know how propaganda... No, there's a... Like, should we set up with a BBC propaganda thing?
BBC are gonna sort of save you from propaganda, and then I can use it to link to the other thing, and then we'll do William Hartung, baby.
Right, so look, the BBC now, they're against propaganda, except their own propaganda.
Can you say that?
I mean, I've worked for the BBC and I love the BBC.
It's a publicly funded platform over here in the United Kingdom and they've started their own misinformation sort of unit and let's sort of just have a brief look at how that's going to go down.
Welcome to BBC Verify.
Like you said, we are a team of investigative journalists here at the BBC.
We are also a new brand and we are a physical location above the newsroom in London.
It's very friendly and accessible so far, isn't it?
It's like we're talking about something that's very much for the TikTok online generation, like it's multiple screens, it's touch screens, it's a young person presenting it, the style is jocular, An affable but verification misinformation disinformation as you know our buzzwords that have been created as centralized old school legacy media starts to realize that there are now numerous fronts of competition from the independent media sector that obviously includes us
Now, you could argue we're not doing ourselves any favours by covering stories about Jeffrey Epstein or January the 6th when we're talking about freedom of speech, when we're talking about centralised authoritarian control of media and government and deep state involvement in social media platforms.
But the fact is, we believe those are the stories you're interested in and we believe it's only by scrutinising those stories that we can begin to create a new transparency, clarity and new alliances in this space between people that might previously align with one of the old school taxonomies like left or right.
I put it to you that those ideas are over now.
I put it to you that the old media is responding to these new and emergent forces even though we are nascent, even though we are small.
We value our community.
That's why it's so important that you press that red button right now and join us on Locals.
We need to be tight because look how the opposition are marshalling their forces.
They are beginning to casually describe Anything that goes against their preferred version of reality as conspiracy theories.
We know how that goes.
We saw Elon Musk talking about that to the mainstream media recently with regard to the Hunter Biden laptop.
You know, either conspiracy theories or right-wing propaganda.
That's the way they describe this stuff.
Now, it's also important, I think, To point out that in 2022 the BBC, which is already state-funded, that means a tax is exacted from the British population, it's mandatory to pay for what is called the licence fee, but it's fundamentally a tax that pays for the BBC, which in the past most of us have been pretty willing to support in the same way that we support, broadly speaking, the National Health Service, believing that it's responsible to have a kind of public broadcaster.
But when that public broadcaster becomes a state broadcaster, That is a different and important distinction.
The BBC of course received 4.1 million in additional funding in 2022 and one might ponder what the conditions were that were stipulated in order to receive that 4.1 million.
It was ostensibly about the war but you're perhaps as a discerning and awakening viewer aware that the conditions that led to the conflict between Ukraine and Russia, while Russia's invasion is of course criminal, involved NATO infringement on former Soviet territories, a coup, In 2014 in Ukraine, the complexities of some of the far-right elements within Ukraine, the stuff that's been going down in Crimea, not to mention the current arming of Ukraine by the military-industrial complex, you receive 50% of all U.S.
budgets and 70% of those weapons are very difficult to track and in fact impossible to track Inside the territory of Ukraine seems to me There's some questions to be asked there and a public broadcaster should be asking those questions not criticizing and shutting down Independent media that do do that and if that is their approach I wonder what is the legitimacy of the ongoing?
License fee is an interesting question for us to ponder in the days going forward Yeah, absolutely.
There's an article in Al Jazeera today about the BBC role in the propaganda machine.
So it talks about the BBC as the propaganda machine of the British imperialism around the globe, as well as in enabling and facilitating the CIA-MI6 coup in Iran in 1953, by doing precisely what it now goes around finding darker nations doing, indulging in fake news and propaganda.
I guess an institution with a history of promoting British imperialism and therefore wars, which should we have been involved in.
It's now trying to shut down, as you say, a kind of independent media trying to tell more nuanced opinions of the current wars.
That's interesting, that perspective, mate.
The BBC was of course minted in the immediate aftermath of the Second World War when a new contract was being forged between the ordinary working people of our nation and their institutions.
There were all sorts of new endeavours to support the people that had sacrificed so heavily in order to maintain the freedom of the British people.
It's when the National Health Service was started, as you can see it's when the BBC started, but plainly there was still a kind of an allegiance to the colonialism and imperialism that preceded that period.
Any publicly funded state supporting organisation that suddenly announces a new agenda to shut down competition, opposition, it has to be itself subject to some scrutiny.
I would argue And there was some other stuff in this that we found pretty interesting towards the end.
I think it was when they were telling you how it was going to operate.
Yeah, I mean, this is where it's starting to look very much like they are going to come for platforms like Rumble.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, I mean, when you have a look at it, the kind of things that Rumble is accused of, or certainly in the mainstream media, in the way that they narrativize Rumble.
Because of course, if you want to criticize alternative voices, you can't say we don't like alternative voices because they're attacking establishment power and are likely eventually going to become a threat to our income, whether that's our advertisers or levies that we are able to raise from the public.
Far better to say that they are Peddling conspiracy theories and misinformation and racism.
I'll tell you why.
Because conspiracy theories, misinformation and racism are all wrong and disgusting and none of them would have a place here.
But what we're interested in is alternative views.
What we're interested in is bringing people together from across the political spectrum.
You might have thought yourself left-wing all your life, but really what you're interested in is freedom, compassion, kindness.
You might have thought yourself as right-wing your whole life, really what you're interested in is independence, your individual identity.
All of us have more in common with one another than we do with these centralised organisations that are increasingly interested in authority and censorship.
They are not our friends, they shouldn't be able to control us, they shouldn't be able to take our money, whether it's the FBI, Or the BBC.
The fact is that many of these free-letter-name organisations belong to the past, and that's why they're fighting so furiously against the future.
M-I-C.
Military-Industrial Conference.
Yeah, baby, that said that to him.
Yeah.
OK, let's have a look at the end of this thing.
I'm investigating the UK's conspiracy theory movement.
I'm trying to understand more about how it's evolved and intensified since the pandemic here in the UK.
I'm looking at the alternative media that finds itself at the heart of this movement and a conspiracy theory newspaper that's a part of that as well.
I'm looking at the way that alternative media is funded.
Okay.
Funding.
Interesting.
Fair enough.
We're looking at funding models.
Looking at its impact on local communities.
I'm looking at its connections with far-right figures and also its foreign links.
That's for a podcast series that will be coming out in June.
It's called Mariana in Conspiracyland and it will be available on BBC Sounds Radio 4.
Asking that question, could January the 6th or a German coup attempt like we saw there ever happen here in the UK?
So there's a real range I wonder if it will cover that on January the 6th there were FBI operatives in the group.
I can't imagine it will cover that.
That doesn't seem to be a conspiracy theory.
I wonder if it will cover the whistleblowers within the FBI.
It's important to have nuanced views.
It's important to have conversation.
But what you cannot have are organisations that pose as a moral authority when the fact is, and I feel that this is in a sense a ubiquitous problem, no one has that claim to universal authority anymore.
Who trusts the government?
Who trusts the mainstream media?
Who trusts the deep state?
Do you trust them?
Let us know in the comment in the chat.
One of the ways we keep ourselves accountable is we listen to you.
We recognize that we are flawed individuals.
Team Nature's Child here says, if you good people Especially Gareth should, what does this say?
You should work with friendly Geordies in order to get Gareth's future Pulitzer Prize.
A lot of people advocating for Gareth to get the old Pulitzer.
It's a very, very popular idea.
Now, moving from contemporary propaganda, let's have a propaganda, which is cockney for us, good look at some propaganda of the past in the form of public service announcement.
Let's have a look at a weird title sequence that Jack's And now it's actually Jay-Z.
dreamish graphic from the mind of a mate. And what has he done this time? Is the audio
Wow.
on in here? So look, this is not a good start. Let's have a look what he's saying. Let's
see what he's created.
It'll be a good one.
And now it's actually Jay-Z.
Wow. This is a public service announcement.
It's really weird.
It's like, sort of, if you give a toddler a pair of scissors.
You know there are risks, but maybe they'll come up with something interesting once in a while.
Okay, as you've just been told by Jay-Z, without getting any consent from Rockefeller Records, here is the Public Service Announcement item, and here's Mr. T with a terrifying Public Service Announcement about the dangers of drugs.
Dangers that it looks to me that he's personally familiar with, because he's off his nut throughout the whole thing.
Check it out.
I get angry just thinking about it makes me mad.
Little kids doing drugs.
It turns my stomach.
It's a hurt.
He crushed his milk for that.
Yeah, he crushed it.
He's so angry about potentially... It turned his stomach.
It turns my stomach!
And then he crushed the milk for that.
Stop you from living up to your potential.
it holds you back your potential so funny like because if you're a drug addict what you might do
is die but it's not like what happened i was a drug addict and i actually don't think i lived up
to your potential that's actually not bad that could happen to you also exactly anyway that's
always happened i probably haven't lived up to mine there are only a few people that have i mean
michael jordan I'm good.
Elon Musk?
I mean, there's not very many people or people actually that just didn't have much talent.
That's the other end of it, isn't it?
Yeah.
People that live up to their potential are either brilliant or crap.
It hurts the user.
It hurts his family.
In retrospect, too many necklaces, isn't it?
And it can't be comfortable.
You couldn't have a sauna in that many necklaces.
You couldn't make love in that many necklaces.
And I wouldn't be too surprised to learn you might get a rash.
Don't you think?
I've got one necklace.
I pity the fool that tries to wear more necklaces than I'm wearing.
Go on.
No, as do I, yeah.
Do you pity him?
Are you going to get her on a plane?
Are you?
Probably not, no.
I wouldn't have thought so.
Go on, what are you saying?
I'm sorry.
No, I don't know.
You want to play a bit more?
Yeah.
Hey, hurtous friends.
I just want to check some sense into you kids that are using drugs and think about using.
So remember, don't tell anyone else.
Okay.
I like the other people that gather around.
Yeah.
Like it is a real incident.
That's one of my favourite aspects of the commercial.
And then this sudden change of mood.
Yeah, I know.
It's weird to come away from that and think, actually, no, I won't take drugs.
I've not took any drugs for 20 years and I'm thinking I might like some now.
Take the itch off that.
Right.
I don't know.
I think I'd be down with that.
I think if I saw that.
I always wanted to be in Mr. T's gang.
The A-Team? That's a lot of pressure, I guarantee.
No, I know.
A lot of pressure.
I'd have liked it.
What would you have... who are you most...
Are you Murdoch, are you Face, are you Hannibal, or are you the Lady?
I think I'm the Lady.
What was she called again?
It's the Lady.
They sued to sub her out.
It was actually a bit sexist.
They got rid of her in the end.
Yeah, like, she was actually allowed one woman out.
They're coming, let's have one woman in the A-Team, because otherwise it's sexist.
Actually, get rid of her, she's holding us back.
Murdoch was, in a sense, I would say the weak link, due to his obvious mental health problems.
I think Murdoch would be me.
Yeah, and me.
We're both Murdoch.
That's where we cross over.
We cross over at Murdoch.
I'd like to be Hannibal.
I smoke the occasional cigar, and I do love it when a plan comes together.
But the fact is... You haven't got the calmness.
I'm not calm enough to be Hannibal!
I'd be panicking in that cow shed, wouldn't I?
Right, oh god, we could use this combine harvester for something, couldn't we?
Oh my god, what does that button do?
Help me, Winky!
Hey, listen, should we talk to our guest and not worry about the fact that we need to play an ad in before the guest, so you could just do a message to our sponsor.
Okay, listen, we ain't got time to play our presentation, here's the news, which is good.
Is it about Elon and disinformation?
Oh man, you're gonna love that.
We're gonna post that up straight away after this, okay?
So watch it.
Gareth, tell us briefly what it's about.
Uh it's about the conspiracies that Elon is accused of tweeting about and uh Elon's comeback is well a lot of these conspiracies turn out to be true i.e Hunter Biden etc then he talks about Bellingcat.
Oh Bellingcat that's good.
Yeah and then we talk about Biden's business dealings at the moment that is kind of Seemingly being covered up by the mainstream media.
Oh!
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You might be wondering when I'm next going to mention the Military-Industrial Complex.
It's in a matter of seconds because I'm being joined by William Hartung, author of Prophets of War, Lockheed Martin, and the making of, yeah you guessed it guys, get ready for a drink, the Military-Industrial Complex.
Hello there William, thanks so much for joining us.
Can you hear me?
Oh, perfectly well.
Thank you for joining us, William.
that's the same color as your shirt, you'll look like a head floating in space like a
Lockheed Martin missile soaring terrifyingly through the sky. Now before you critique Ray
Theon and Northrop Grumman, you should learn how to at least unmute yourself. Otherwise,
you look you give them the advantage, sir. Are you is your mic on darling?
Can you hear me?
Oh, perfectly well. Thank you for joining us, William. It's so lovely to meet you.
Yes, glad to meet you.
you. Hey, come on then. What's going on with the military industrial complex? Is it driven
by greed and special interests or is it driven by national security and a desire to protect
the good people of America? Well, it hides behind the rhetoric of national security,
but it's basically a racket for picking the pockets of the taxpayers. Yes, that's interesting.
The US is the world's largest arms dealer.
How on earth have we arrived in a position where the most powerful nation on earth facilitates arms sales, even delivering them in some cases?
Which is the worst of all of the arms dealing companies and why?
Well, it's kind of a toss-up between Lockheed Martin and Raytheon.
They created the bombs that have killed thousands of civilians in Yemen.
They sell to Egypt.
They sell to Nigeria.
They sell to the Philippines.
Some of the most repressive regimes in the world, even as they try to dress themselves up as some sort of arsenal of democracy, they're actually an arsenal of dictatorships.
I see.
Can you give me that asset list guys?
I can't find that asset list.
Is it on this?
I can't find it.
The asset list for the interview with William.
It'd be good if I just give me those things so that at the top of it says William Hartung and then it's a list of the assets and questions in one place on one sheet so I can conduct these things with the professionalism our guest deserves.
Thank you very much.
So the world's largest dance producing companies are listed there and by far and away Lockheed Martin is the greater.
What do you think is the relationship between those kind of sales and their donation strategy to save the Democrat party but also the Republican party and the expenditure on lobbying, William?
Well, it's directly connected.
I mean, there's some members of Congress who tried to cut off sales to Yemen, to the Philippines, other places, but the industry gave $83 million to Congress in the last two election cycles.
They have 820 lobbyists, which is more than there are members of Congress.
There's actually three or four peace lobbyists, so it's obviously not a fair fight.
Um, and they hire former government officials to lobby for them.
And also the for the last five U. S. Secretary of Defense came from weapons companies like Raytheon, Boeing and General Dynamics.
So this is revolving door that goes both ways and people profit on both sides of the equation.
While we pull up this Eisenhower quote, could you tell me about peace lobbyists, how they're funded and what their role is?
Although, of course, I can ascertain to a degree what it might be from their name.
Well, most of them are funded by individuals.
There's groups like the Friends Committee on National Legislation.
There's Council for a Livable World.
You know, they're fighting to reduce Pentagon spending, to cut nuclear spending, to get us out of some of these wars.
But it's an uphill fight, both, I think, because of ideology and because of just the sheer force of money on the other side.
Enoch Powell, who is often credited with inspiring much of the right-wing and ethno-nationalist rhetoric that prevails to this day, once said of Britain, you cannot have Britain without a monarchy.
Britain is fundamentally and essentially a monarchy.
Once you abolish the monarchy, you no longer have Britain.
Do you think the same could be said of the United States of America and the military-industrial complex?
Is war so integral to the economic model of the United States of America that it's unthinkable to rid America of this institution?
Well, it's not a huge part of the economy, but it's politically wired because they give money to the members of Congress who decide how much to spend on the Pentagon.
They spread their jobs all over the country.
They have lobbying, they have advertising, they are involved in government missions that define what the so-called threats are.
So it's kind of a political stranglehold.
I mean, we could build another kind of economy, but it would be a heavy lift because of all these political interconnections.
What's the Quincy Institute that you're there representing, William?
We're a trans-partisan, meaning we're not affiliated with the other party.
We work with people across the spectrum.
And our basic thrust is end endless wars, more diplomacy.
And in this climate, That's a surprisingly controversial stance.
Shouldn't be, but in many quarters it is, unfortunately.
Do you find that different conflicts have different inflections to the two parties?
Specifically, when speaking about diplomacy ending the current Russia-Ukraine conflict, do you find that that's been batted back a lot by Democratic representatives and with the escalations of tensions between the US And China regarding Taiwan and semiconductors that the Republican Party seem to be agitating for conflict.
Are both parties in the business of war and are there inflections and accents within that?
There's both parties are split.
There's more Republicans critical of army Ukraine than there are Democrats, although some progressive Democrats are at least pushing diplomacy.
On the other hand, I think both parties are fairly hawkish about China, unfortunately, at this point, which is kind of the driver of these huge Pentagon budgets, which are moving towards a trillion dollars a year, if we don't stand in the way and try to stop that.
Yeah, I see.
Do you think that we can learn anything other than certain economic affiliations from the way that they perceive these conflicts?
Is there anything to be gleaned from the distinctions that you just outlined?
Well, I think the people who are on the take, who get the campaign contributions, who have the weapons factories in their districts, tend to be pro-war on either side of the aisle.
And the ones who are less bound by that tend to be free to be more critical.
if I could just pass over to my colleague Gareth Roy who has an inquiry for you now.
Hi William, sorry about the little noise there.
I'm really interested in the way in which I guess calling for diplomacy, I guess with the current situation with Russia and Ukraine, has become an issue that is now hard to talk about even seemingly on the left.
We kind of know the ways in which The military-industrial complex kind of seems to donate equally to both parties.
We know that lobbyists, I think three, I think it's something like three quarters of lobbyists have been previously members of the government.
It's all tied up massively to make sure that these increased Pentagon budgets keep going, that money keeps filtering through to the military-industrial complex, and yet Talking about this, raising this as a possibility as to why war is continued seems to be pushed over to the fringes to the kind of almost like conspiracy theorists now to be raising these issues that used to be a left-wing talking point and I wondered what your thought is on how that has happened and maybe the influence that potentially the military industrial complex has had on that?
Well, I think the Russian invasion has just thrown everything up in the air in terms of positions on the left and right.
But what interests me is not only is the complex getting tens of billions of dollars for arming Ukraine, but of course, they push for NATO expansion in the 90s and have been selling US weapons all over Europe since then.
And they're trying to say, well, Ukraine shows we need more weapons, we need to Moving faster, we need to build up, supersize the military industrial complex.
So they're seizing this moment to try to get all kinds of favors that they've wanted for years.
And much of this is not going to even affect Ukraine, it's just going to line the pockets of the contractors.
Hey William, we've got a great question here from Achela in our chat.
She says, is POTUS really the commander-in-chief when it comes to the matters of war, or is the real commander-in-chief the person who commands the POTUS?
Well, I think he's restrained in many ways by the political climate and the military industrial complex helps to set that climate.
So, you know, for example, there was a commission that talked about how we weren't spending enough on the Pentagon.
And that commission was appointed by Congress.
More than half the members were consultants to the military industry, executives of the military industry, think tanks funded by the military industry.
So they have great power in shaping the parameters of debate, of shaping the environment in Congress.
So if we had a president who wanted to end every war right now, they'd be up against all that, you know, that kind of political wall they'd have to get over.
When you're engaged in matters that seem intractable like this, how does it affect your personal morality and your personal hope?
Do you feel drained occasionally by the scale of your task?
How do you feel that this will evolve and develop, the issue of trying to curtail military expenditure and agitation for unnecessary wars?
How does it affect you as a human?
Uh, well, it can be wearing for sure.
But I'm kind of stubborn.
I don't want to let them get away with this.
I don't want them to be a lack of independent voices, trying to tell people what's really going on.
I think in the longer term, we can turn this around.
But day to day.
Sure, it can be depressing, but I'm, I'm not giving up.
I'm, you know, I'm just re energized, if anything, because there's so much to deal with and so much to push back against.
What, you get a bit depressed?
Do you sometimes feel a bit depressed about this?
Well, yeah, there's moments.
I mean, you know, we're up against it and it's their powerful interests and they've been, you know, getting their way in terms of money, in terms of profiting from wars and so forth.
But on the other hand, I feel a great sense of mission to try to put out alternative information and that is energizing.
Yeah, it is, I suppose.
Push back yourself in terms of, are you labelled as being unpatriotic and things like this?
I mean, you must get those kind of accusations for pointing these things out.
Sure, sure.
There's, you know, you get emails, you get when you have debates, people try to, you know, pin you as pro-Putin and so forth.
But I think the best way to go at it is just to dismiss that as ridiculous and, you know, make the arguments you need to make and not let it affect you.
Do you want us to send you some encouraging emails solely for the purpose of boosting your morale?
So when you open your laptop tomorrow, it'll be like loads of them, like going, yeah, go on, William!
William Hartung, using a new nickname we've developed for you, William Hartung Baby, from the name of the U2 album, deluging you with praise, sometimes bordering on sycophancy and hysteria, just to put some pep in your step as you begin your day tomorrow.
Well, I think, you know, if people went to our YouTube page, I would be thrilled, because I'm represented there at Quincy INST.
Emails would be great.
What would be even better is my first album, you know, named Heart to Baby.
I just can't sing, but...
That doesn't matter.
As long as you can wear some sunglasses and then decades into your career claim it's for an eye condition, you are overqualified for the business.
Alright, so you can listen to William's new album, Ha Tong Baby, on his YouTube page, which is, what's it called again, William?
Ed Quincy, INST.
All our social media is on that moniker.
Post it in the chat.
We'll post all your stuff in the chat.
And also, what about William's book, Prophets of War?
That's with the PH.
Lockheed Martin and the Making of the Military-Industrial Complex.
You think Lockheed Martin is the worst one?
Have they not made anything that's good, like a telescope or something?
Well, the most corrupt company in the history of the military industrial complex, in terms of cost overruns, bribery, overcharging, selling to dictatorships, getting the government to subsidize their mergers.
So they're kind of a model of what not to do in terms of a responsible corporation, if there is such a thing.
I chose them for my book because they're kind of a case study In the development of that complex, and it's growing power, they, you know, get more money a year in many years than the whole State Department.
They probably get as much money as the whole military budget when I gave his military industrial complex speech.
So he couldn't have dreamed this kind of money and power, you know, when when he was raising the alarm about this in the early 1960s.
Zypher2000 said we need an antitrust breakup.
Nodagonoko says Prophets of Profit would be a good title as well for the first book, but, you know, using the different spellings of it.
But Nogadonoko did earlier say that he was going to move into Gareth's house without first asking permission.
So I don't know if we want him in a brainstorm, do we, when it comes to titles?
William?
That wasn't really a question, Ross.
Sorry.
William, I feel that we've had a nice time together and I would like very much if you'd come on our show again and next time I would look at the contrasts between the backdrop and your shirt and think very carefully.
Put aside some of the stubbornness that you're deploying in, ironically, your war against the military-industrial complex And simply wear something, possibly lemon or tangerine.
Just think of limey fruits and think of me and Gareth.
Either that or a lime background with a shirt.
Yeah, think of that, William.
Hey, William, thanks for joining us.
Thanks for the education.
We're posting all of William's information over on Locals, but also in Rumble.
But join us in Locals.
It's where we have a couple of limey fruits talking about limey fruits.
Join us there.
OK, William, thanks, man.
We'll see you again.
Come on again.
Yes, yes.
Yes, thanks for having me.
Uh, all the revelations about... No, it wasn't that.
I knew all that.
I knew all that already.
Everyone knows that.
I liked that he was sort of a bit... like how he was.
Right.
I like the bit when it... when he says that he got depressed.
And I imagined him saying... Well, you... you pushed him to that.
I pushed him to reveal that, like he's been pushing Lucky by, see how he likes it.
I saw it, imagined him sat on his bath in the morning like Watermattow or whatever, sort of just a bit hangdog, a bit grouchy.
You really wanted him to be like, you said, do you ever get depressed about things?
And then he said, well, you know, I try to stay upbeat.
Do you think I projected it on him?
You absolutely did.
Did I project that on him?
Do you think I did?
No, no.
He liked to act on baby!
He did like that.
He's probably going to release that.
Jack will have a graphic and an album.
Jack will probably be collaborating with him right now.
I bet Jack is zipping across the Atlantic now to collaborate on a kind of Joshua Tree parody with William Acton Baby Hartung.
It'd be amazing if that's what came out of this.
And a love affair.
That William actually released an album.
It'd be good, especially if on the promo tour he was dour like that.
Yeah, dour's going too far.
What would you want to describe him as?
Understated?
Yeah.
And fussy?
Yes.
A new shirt and a new background, you're right Firegirl, that is what needs to happen.
Okay, listen, I'd say you enjoyed that interview, but some people are saying that I was projecting my own emotional and mental instability upon the guest, which is almost like the leper's bell of a bad broadcaster.
He's strong of mind.
Of course he is.
He's stubborn.
Let someone see this and give us a quid.
Darm addict.
Loved him.
He's sincere and genuine.
Right.
You too have gone full M-I-C-W-E-F, says Pride Faults.
Good, innit, this?
Alright, listen, we're going to do a bit of an extra chat on locals.
Are we going to do an extra chat on locals?
Yeah, we can, little one.
If you've got some questions, ask us the questions.
Also, if you join us on Locals, press that red button.
Press that red button now, you're going to love it if you're watching this on Rumble.
Join us, it's warm, it's loving.
Also, we're going to overthrow the governments, various world governments, and bring about... Not today.
Not today, we've got too much on, but later.
Formed, decentralised, anarcho-syndicalist, libertarian, anarcho-wonderland.
No one's telling you what to do.
You're going to be completely free.
It's going to be great.
Also, you can see the RFK interview in full.
Plus, I do weekly meditations.
Plus, we've got podcasts coming up.
Live ones.
Richard Dickey Dawkins, the atheist priest, ironically, will be joining us.
I'm excited to speak to Richard Dawkins.
I've wanted to speak to him for ages.
Remember, in July, we do a live event that you can attend on tomorrow's show.
Ahmed Jalili is coming on talking about the protests in Iran which I don't know enough about other than it's like a movement that began around sort of feminist issues and women's rights and sort of dress code and sharia.
I don't know enough but after I speak to Ahmed Jalili tomorrow We're gonna know a lot more.
I hope you're gonna behave yourself.
I'll try, I'll try.
Gareth, how do you feel when I press that button that says about the question and everything?
I just never know how to explain it to the guest and he looked so confused at that point.
I love it.
I know you love it.
Sometimes there have been people where I didn't press it because I thought, no it's too mad.
Right.
But actually I'm starting to get my confidence back now.
I'm glad about that, yeah.
I feel like I'm obligated to mention it rather than just move forward with my questions.
Look at this person's pride folds.
I look at them in the comments.
The joke is too old.
Let it die.
No way.
I'm keeping that joke going for...
...
He may be using his obstinance to front up to Lockheed Martin.
I'm using mine for actually no reason.
That's even more stubborn.
Because if your stubbornness is at least engaged with an opposing force... Yeah, you don't have a target.
No target.
That's what I heard once about ISIS.
Remember ISIS?
Yeah.
They were around for a bit, weren't they?
Obviously, a lot of people in ISIS plainly had comorbidities.
That's what I can deduce.
Because ISIS, they were the main thing in town.
I read this article once, and it said, they don't care what you do.
They don't care if you negotiate.
It really scared me, because it was like, they don't care if you negotiate, they don't care if you agree with them, don't care if you appease them, they're just going to carry on doing that.
But then, what happened was, is a relatively aggressive cough, and they fell eerily silent.
Yeah, didn't stop the FBI spying on 100,000 Americans in, you know, they'll have gone, we're spying on ISIS!
100,000 Americans.
Yeah, because they can't all of ISIS can't have been Americans.
Some of them were British.
I remember some of the best ones.
Do you remember those four lads?
Yeah, people went over because they were promised, in some cases, Nutella.
Not that I want to... Well, that was one of the things that the mainstream media said.
Oh, it's all about their offering Nutella.
How mad is this?
If it's Nutella you want, I've got a king-sized jar.
So, consider that.
Yeah, like there wouldn't be any other reasons.
You can get Nutella anywhere these days.
It's freely available.
It's not just available in Scandinavia, as it was in its origins.
Remember how you used to go on holiday and everything was different?
Yeah.
Remember the feeling going in a Spanish supermarket?
Love it.
It's like, what?
Everything's a bit different.
What are these biscuits?
We're jamming them.
There's a jammy dodger.
You've got them at home.
Get out.
Anyway, listen, we're off now, but we're still on Locals.
Join us there.
Ask us a question.
A proper question.
Proper ones.
And don't just try preaching there, Nodogo.
I'm going to learn how to say that name properly, because it does work as a name.
All right.
See you in a minute.
And tomorrow, Omid Jalili.
Loads of stuff.
And, oh, you know the mainstream, the presentation on the mainstream media, the Elon Musk thing.
Here's the news.
No, here's the effing news.
That's up on Rumble right now.
You can watch that, but don't watch it right now.
Stay with us.
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Then watch That.
Alright?
Not that I'm telling you what to do.
Do what you want.
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