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WTF!? Were 9/11 hijackers REALLY CIA Recruits?! - #120 - Stay Free With Russell Brand

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	I'm a black man, and I could never be a veteran.
	I'm a black man, and I could never be a veteran.
	I'm going to see the kid first.
	Oh In this video, you're going to see the future.
	Hey, hey!
	You're awakening.
	You're wonderful.
	Thanks for coming.
	Thanks for joining us for Stay Free on Russell Brand.
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	Ooh, Twitter.
	Did you get verified?
	You might be watching this on YouTube.
	Do the WHO know you're there?
	Does your mum know you're out this late?
	Or you might already be watching us on Rumble, the home of free speech, where no matter what they tell you, this is a place where people can come together in peace to share opinions that potentially might damage the onward march of an authoritarian movement that seeks to dominate the globe and prevent you from communicating freely.
	We're going to be having a look at the...
	We're going to be having a look at the departure of Tucker Carlson from Fox and why the Pentagon is so delighted.
	Sometimes I think this about radical liberals and whose views I respect and in so many cases absolutely align with.
	Why are they happy to be on the same side of the Department of Defence and the Pentagon on any sort of issue at all?
	Like, when you imagine Woodstock, the late 60s, the civil rights movement, the great hot stirrings of the summer of 68, a counter-cultural movement, the women's movement, all these powerful voices, they weren't In alliance with big businesses and with the state, they were anti-establishment.
	It's so extraordinary to me how things have changed.
	We're going to be talking to Max Blumenthal from the grey zone a little bit later.
	We will not be able to have this conversation on YouTube.
	I think it would be dangerous even on Elon Musk's Twitter, even within his great citadel of free speech.
	Would you be able to openly talk about 9-11?
	and the CIA.
	There's a link in the description.
	Click over at Rumble.
	We're going to be talking to Max Blumenthal, a fine journalist, founder of the Grey Zone, about recent revelations I can't go into here.
	If they're true, it's another one of those things where the conspiracy theorists had a point, and how many of those have you seen lately?
	But before we get into that potentially contentious story, Sacrebleu!
	France is... What's French for fire?
	Do you know any French?
	Not a thing, no.
	You're supposed to know stuff like that.
	I look at you and I think you would at least know a bit of French because you can play a certain instrument that has French in it.
	Why can't you speak even a word of French?
	Call yourself an on-screen assistant?
	Is that what your credit is now?
	I don't know what it is now.
	Let's have a look at what's going on in France.
	It looks actually like riots because people have been lied to.
	Let's have a look.
	Tonight, tensions boiling over in France.
	Hundreds of thousands taking to the streets across the country.
	Right, that French copper.
	Go back a bit and have a look again.
	That French copper booted that bin himself.
	Look at that!
	You're in the police force!
	A lot of people are posting words for fire in front.
	A lot of people say it's fuego.
	That's Spanish.
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	But now I'm for a French copper kicking a trash can.
	Let's see him.
	Streets across the country protesting against President Emmanuel Macron's move to raise the retirement age by two years to 64.
	There you go.
	Ongoing riots and discontent in France because the people there have seen that democracy isn't working.
	They were rioting outside the offices of Blackrock, weren't they, Gareth?
	Because they know that this is about centralised finance usurping the process of democracy.
	And I'm always struck by this, that we are one planet in limitless, potentially infinite space, and on the same Little Planet, with essentially the same kind of interest.
	And I'm, by the way, not suggesting that there should be centralized power.
	Far from it.
	Decentralized power at every opportunity.
	But on the same planet, there's those riots and there's the Met Gala, which I don't know if you know this.
	It's sort of like people dress up in outrageous outfits.
	Have a look at this footage from the Met Gala the other day.
	People are dressing up as mouses, as cats.
	Look at this.
	I think this is the lad at a Dallas Buyers Club.
	He got himself all nice and thin.
	He's actually tried to start a cult.
	Jared Leto, isn't it?
	Yeah, he played a thin... No, it's Matthew McConaughey.
	He's the one that got us there.
	He's been on our podcast before.
	I like Matthew McConaughey.
	He's a good actor.
	No, he's great.
	He is good, isn't he?
	But it's not who's inside this cat, just to be clear.
	It's the other lad.
	Yeah.
	It's the other lad out of Dallas Buyers Club.
	That's it.
	He's dressed up as a giant mouse, look.
	Was he?
	No, it's a cat.
	Right.
	This just in, Matthew McConaughey's dressed as a mouse.
	That's no less stupid than what's happening.
	Jared Leto, out of Dallas Buyers Club, Joker, he's dressed up as a cat.
	Why?
	Why is that happening?
	Just in your mind, hold the image of that French copper kicking a bin because French democracy has been usurped after all those revolutions and guillotinings they've done.
	Look at the Met Ball, it's meant to have.
	Look at this whole story, it's crazy.
	At fashion's biggest night, the cat is out of the bag.
	This year's theme, an homage to the late Karl Lagerfeld, known for his signature black and white designs.
	How, like, they went signature, and they showed Karl Lagerfeld doing a signature, then they went black and white designs, and they showed a black and white picture of him.
	Like, not every word needs to be illustrated with an image.
	It's too much, isn't it?
	It's too overwhelming.
	They were catatonic about... Like a tonic, a cat!
	It's too much!
	Like, this is an homage to Karl Lagerfeld at the Met Ball.
	These things I remember, because I remember when I used to be famous.
	Oh yeah?
	Don't say it like that!
	No, no, I remember it.
	I was there for a lot of it.
	I was being famous, and things like that Met Ball would happen.
	I've never been to that.
	Oh, you didn't go to the Met Ball?
	But when I was married to KP, Katy Perry, I remember she went to that, and I was like, oh, do you have to go to that thing?
	But she wanted to, and that's her right as a free individual, of course, and she did go.
	Everyone goes there, they're all dressed up like that.
	It's mental, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	What was your reason for staying home?
	Just you fancied a night in or something?
	I don't like things like that, mate.
	I don't like things like that.
	It makes me nervous.
	Did you maybe, like, you bought a curry or something?
	You're like, we'll have a night in.
	Don't go off to the let.
	We'll have a nice night in.
	I'll have been doing something.
	I'm not trying to say, oh, look at me.
	Aren't I normal?
	Because I'm strange in so many ways.
	But like, when it comes to that, I don't like it.
	I think you are pretty normal.
	I'll be honest.
	Am I?
	A night in with you is about as far away from that as possible.
	I'd rather watch football.
	Have sanctuary.
	Little curry.
	Got your trays.
	Got my tray on my lap.
	I feel like when we were at Man City Arsenal.
	Yeah, mate, if you want me to put a cushion on.
	But I'll be honest with you, my tray's already got a cushion built into the tray.
	Get an extra cushion, put it on there.
	Put it on your tray.
	That's a little tip from me.
	I certainly can have that for free.
	Well, I know, because you can't.
	That's the thing with doing this job all day long.
	NATO is corrupt.
	This war we're being lied about.
	You can't trust the pharmaceutical industry.
	We're being censored and surveilled.
	But when you're going home, you're just like a normal person.
	All right, kids.
	No, don't talk to yet.
	What did you do at school?
	Tell us something!
	Tell us something that you did at school!
	You went to the Met Gala?
	I'm just back from the Met Gala!
	Dallas Buyers Club was dressed as a giant cat!
	What?
	What?
	What's going on?
	Meanwhile, France is melting down.
	It's too confusing.
	Life's too confusing.
	Look at the rest of the stuff they're wearing.
	Like there's a bit where it goes, Karl Lagerfeld really liked dressing up in pearls, so everyone there's got loads of pearls on.
	It's so weird.
	Yeah.
	Janelle Monáe in head to toe black and white.
	Anyway, I went there and they took me to this rubbish dump.
	And it was so depressing.
	I nearly had a mental breakdown just being there half hour.
	And people lived there, like little kids were there foraging in the dump.
	And I couldn't get into the right mood.
	You know how you're meant to be on a telethon?
	Like, for just one pound!
	I was like, that's not gonna work.
	A pound?
	This is mental.
	This is not gonna be reversed by donations.
	This is evidence of a systemic problem.
	We're gonna have to radically wrap, no just say send a pound doll 0181, you know what I mean?
	They're trying to keep it on that tier but I was having a mental breakdown. So like then the next
	day because I was like in like my mad world of Hollywood and all that stuff, I was in like a
	John Galliano fashion show in Paris. Wow. And like it was too hard to hold together the images of all
	of that mad suffering in Uganda and then seeing like this show of John Galliano where there were
	these beautiful bubbles full of smoke and people marching down a catwalk.
	This is the same planet.
	This can't be right that this is happening.
	Something is deeply systemically wrong if you can simultaneously have that level of suffering.
	I try to envisage it as one individual.
	If it was one individual, like a female, who was like putting lipstick on her face and was all beautiful and then you look down like a leg and it was all sort of had all maggots in a hastily amputated stump, you'd go, you've got to sort that out.
	Well, yeah, like all beautiful, but then hastily amputated stamp all maggots in it.
	You should get someone to paint that.
	That'd be nice.
	Paint it.
	I bet AI, get chap GPT and do it.
	Do it now.
	We're talking about AI because even the fella, right, this is the news.
	This is paraphrased news.
	Google man, the godfather of Google.
	That's right.
	He said he regrets everything he's done.
	It's gone too far, AI, and he wishes he'd shut it down.
	Pretty much, yeah.
	That's the way he's gone.
	I've gone too far!
	He's gone too far.
	But before we talk about Google Man in a minute, we're going to talk to Max Blumenthal later about... I mean, I can't believe it's true, but you know the story.
	CIA, 9-11, all that stuff.
	Let us know in the chat how you're feeling, baby.
	Someone here said, I'm sorry for your mental illness.
	It's alright, I don't mind.
	Look, there is no harm in being maladjusted to a maladjusted world.
	It is ordinary to suffer in a world where the value systems are so out of alignment with our evolution, where our diet is out of step, where our lifestyles are out of step.
	If you're like, this is fine, I like this, then...
	I don't know, man.
	We've all got to be a bit mentally ill to be able to process this kind of imagery with then France or Ukraine or Uganda or whatever it is.
	It's incredible that we can do it and then just get on with our lives.
	Do you remember the Oscars they'd done in the year of COVID and they sort of did it in some weird basement?
	Yeah.
	But they still did the Oscars.
	Yeah, right.
	Out of respect, we're doing the Oscars down an alley.
	Don't do the Oscars anymore!
	Either give me one or stop them.
	One of those things.
	I guess the place where the two kind of come together was that what we spoke about yesterday, which is that White House correspondence.
	That's the way in which show business and this kind of ridiculousness come together with the politics.
	At that White House Correspondents' Dinner is where the consensus is achieved by the centres of administrative power, aka the President, and those that are supposed to report on it.
	It ain't that long ago that Woodward and Bernstein were like, wait a minute, we're going to bring down these sons of guns!
	But now it's like, alright, what do you want us to write about?
	What questions don't you want asked?
	We'll give you the questions in advance.
	We've got this celebrity to our table, like Ryan Grimm told us about.
	Ryan Grimm.
	Ryan Grimmy Grimm, he was on the show, was that yesterday's show?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it was an amazing show, but he did admit to giving Jesse Walters an almighty kick on the tip of the prinkle, didn't he?
	I did say that, yeah.
	I think, I don't think I'm being unfair when I say that that's what he admitted to.
	Also, there's another one of these stories that's a bit like that odd coagulation of paradoxical imagery, but we'll work that out after we've seen this lady in this outfit.
	Kristen Stewart, Vanessa Hudgens, and Jenna Ortega sticking to that colour scheme.
	I think that one, General Tega.
	Wow, what an exclusive.
	I know her, I think.
	I'll sit right, this is just in guys.
	Firstly, 9-11 CIA, we'll talk about it in a minute.
	I know her, mate.
	I know her.
	We can trust this guy.
	In all white for her first time back to the Met Gala as a single lady.
	Single lady?
	So it's banal gossip.
	I bet that gazelle, she's superb, I imagine.
	Brilliant, beautiful, incredible.
	These are not critiques of these individuals.
	This is a critique of a sort of really crazy system where people are dressing up as cats and stuff for reasons that still seem confusing to me.
	And our own Rhiannon Alley, gorgeous in all black.
	Lagerfeld, also known for his pearls.
	Serena Williams, sporting pearls.
	Lagerfeld, known for his pearls.
	Also though, everything is collapsing.
	Everything.
	France is on fire.
	There are unnecessary wars.
	US banks are collapsing seemingly every week now.
	No banks now.
	All your money, it's gone.
	Meanwhile, you're spending $1,000 every year funding the military-industrial complex.
	Don't think about that, because we got a guy out of Dallas Buyers Club, but he's dressed as mouses.
	Look at that though!
	mouses like it's it's not normal to have that happen it isn't i don't think so her own on the carpet lizzo too and kim kardashian wearing 50 000 freshwater pearls her dress took its makers a thousand hours to complete but there's definitely nothing better that could have been done without a thousand hours like we've um lost touch again these are not criticisms of these individuals i know what it's like to be part of that world i was briefly part of that world But what I sense is that we are participating in a gala of banality while there are serious things that need to be addressed and these things don't work either even for the people
	Hedonism doesn't really work, ultimately.
	Even though William Blake says the road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom, I think what Blake is saying is that through excess, you recognize that the material world can never really fulfill you.
	And again, this is not about asceticism and the denial of pleasure.
	I have no judgment about how other people live, whether they drink or whether they use drugs.
	Although, of course, illegal drugs, you know, while we're on YouTube, you can't say stuff like that.
	sex and sexuality and consensual situations, it's no one's business etc.
	But this kind of orgasm of idiocy that sits at the heart of our culture to me
	seems like an indication that we're on the wrong path perhaps and look at this
	This is extraordinary because it ties us to a different time.
	Many of you love it when we have Graham Hancock on the show because he's willing to talk about Egyptology and culture and potential ancient civilizations from a different perspective.
	And I suppose what's fascinating about positing that we are not at the apex of the human phenomena right now, that human civilizations have risen and fallen before in the 300 million year history of our planet.
	Am I right?
	Is it 300 million years for Earth?
	You can Google that pretty simply, although do you trust it?
	It's possible that there have been other civilizations that have fallen, and many people say that Graham Hancock is not responsible in the way that he presents evidence, but he's an amateur archaeologist, isn't he?
	And I think he presents some wonderful theories.
	Look at this, they've taken some pharaoh out of his carsophagus and given him his voice I've given him his voice back.
	It's really, really funny.
	Because I'm confused by it.
	I'm confused by it as a concept, and it's certainly very confusing as a noise.
	And look at all of the pageantry that went on then.
	We're talking about the coronation later this week, and the amount of pageantry that goes on now.
	Ridiculous pageantry.
	Well, in those days, they'd bury a pharaoh with their servants.
	They'd bury him with all sorts of artifacts and art and all that kind of stuff.
	Well, none of that.
	Go on in there.
	Back him up.
	Like, it seems oddly desirable.
	What do you reckon his voice was like, though?
	Let's get down his voice box and give him a new voice.
	Look at this bizarre piece of news.
	Scientists were able to mimic Nessie Amun's voice by recreating his mouth and vocal cords with a 3D printer.
	It allowed them to produce a single sound.
	Why?
	Let me rest!
	I didn't even like seeing his little tootsies down there, like these little bare feet all like sort of all twizzled up by time.
	Like leave him down there, in there, isn't it?
	Don't you?
	Should you?
	Yeah, I mean that's...
	That's the sound you could make at all culture.
	There's a copper kicking a bin in France.
	I mean, what great revelation are they taking from this?
	I don't understand.
	Did they not think that someone back then could have made that noise?
	It seems that this pharaoh, at least, was unhappy about being dug out of his tomb and made to speak thousands of years later.
	We are being sort of reduced to idiocy through the meter of our culture.
	It's like dumbing down.
	That's what dumbing down feels like.
	Here's someone dressed as a cat.
	Here's a copper kick in a bin.
	Meanwhile, banks are collapsing, wars are going on, agitating China, encircling them with military bases.
	This experiment's not working properly.
	This is time for a radical re-evaluation.
	Let us know.
	I mean, we're thinking about starting new communities.
	I believe Jared Leto tried a community, didn't he?
	Wow.
	But I don't know what went on.
	Look at him now.
	This is one of our... If ever you want to know where technology could potentially take you,
	this is an experiment to recreate a voice box that we've shown you before, but we'll show
	you again because it's not disgusting, but it looks disgusting and it sounds weird.
	Merry Christmas.
	What's that achieving?
	Yeah, it is disturbing.
	It looks a bit like with that mic in front of his mouth, it's like he's at the Met Gala and someone's gone, what are you wearing today?
	Will you be appearing as the Joker again?
	Where did you get those pearls and did it take a long time to get those out of the bottom of the sea and then polish them and then turn them into a dress?
	Can we have four more years of Joe Biden?
	Can we have a press dinner where nobody mentions, when celebrating journalism, that Julian Assange is in prison without trial in the United Kingdom, awaiting extradition?
	Because of the Espionage Act, because he revealed information that's definitely sensitive, but also, I would say, relevant to the American taxpayers who are paying for these wars.
	Remember, you are paying $1,000 every single year to the military-industrial complex.
	We're going to be bringing your report about that later.
	Oh yeah, I can use my noise.
	into a kind of drone I would suggest.
	Turned into satire, get on.
	Very good, very good.
	Oh yeah, I can use my noise.
	Someone's pointed out that I've got this noise and I can use it whenever I want.
	Oh dear.
	Like I don't have to do it myself anymore.
	So I can just let go.
	Ask me a satirical question about the news or something.
	Do you think it's right that US spy planes should fly close to China when there was all that furore about the spy balloon in America?
	Satire.
	Biting satire that we're delivering here.
	We just mentioned that banks are failing all over the Gaffey.
	Here's another one.
	Look, another bank's failed.
	Let's have a look at that.
	Look, First Republic Bank collapsed, spurs fears for banking system and broader economy.
	Is that good news?
	It's not great news, no.
	So it's three of the four largest bank failures in US history have taken place over the last two months.
	No way!
	Is this worse than the ones in 2008?
	These are three of the four, so we've had three collapse in the last few weeks or a few months.
	BP are doing well though.
	They're doing very well.
	British Petroleum, they're making profits.
	How's your electricity bill lately?
	Have you seen electricity bills?
	They're enough going up.
	Exclusive!
	Yeah?
	Wait a minute!
	Hold on!
	Wait a minute, let me look at last year's one.
	We're still on YouTube, can't express myself.
	Yeah, Barry, John and Fox, they're crazy high.
	That was soothing.
	Yeah, it's always nice to hear a little bit of Stevie Wonder, isn't it, guys?
	You can join us on local, just press the button if you do.
	We told you a minute ago, US spy planes are over Taiwan.
	Taiwan, want to have a war with China?
	I want, I want, I want to have a war with China.
	They're in that Taiwan Strait, which is that little, that bit of sea right between China and Taiwan.
	Don't go in there.
	Well, it's agitating them, isn't it?
	It's going to annoy China, and you know they don't like that.
	You know, like, what would that be like going in the Gulf of Mexico, where BP like to spill their British petroleum, slosh that all about over a birdie beak?
	Right.
	US ready to help Philippines resupply ship in South China Sea.
	That's going to annoy them.
	Yep.
	That's gonna annoy him, that.
	But let's see what the world's best and handsomest politician is saying.
	Trudeau's questioned his... Even Trudeau didn't believe that that freedom convoy was as bad as he was saying it was.
	No, this is his staffers who didn't believe it.
	Oh, even his people that work for Trudeau?
	Yeah, so the people that work for him were, like, behind, I guess, closed doors, were kind of like, oh, I'm not sure he should be doing this.
	Do you, with Justin Trudeau, always think, is it Trudeau?
	Yes, I do think that all the time.
	Have you ever heard those sort of conspiracy theory type sounding things saying that he's Fidel Castro's lad?
	Oh yeah.
	The conspiracy theory type things.
	We wouldn't be interested in that then, would we?
	No, not actual conspiracy theory.
	I mean, also, look, always with the conspiracy theory.
	Let me know if you agree with this, guys, in the chat.
	Does it make any bloody difference?
	Whatever you think about Cuba, socialism, Fidel Castro and all that.
	Fidel Castro was not like a player on the world stage able to get people in via the WEF.
	He faced pretty heavy sanctions from the US.
	Whatever Cuba would do it over there, America were not into it.
	America went like, hell, this is all part of our globalist scheme, innit?
	Like Fidel Castro, and I'm well aware of the human rights issues over there in Cuba.
	Judge Trudeau on what he actually does, rather than... Judge him on what he was, not who his dad is, or is.
	Might have been.
	Yeah, just because he looks a little bit like him, conveniently, really.
	Shall we leave?
	Listen, guys, I think we're going to leave.
	If you're watching us on YouTube or Elon Musk's citadel of free speech, that is Twitter.
	We're going to leave you now because we are going to speak to Max Blumenthal, who's a fantastic journalist.
	Absolutely fantastic.
	He founded Greyzone, founded it, he founded it and then he bloody well edits it.
	Wow.
	Look what I found.
	Founded.
	Didn't found it like find it.
	He founded it like it's foundation.
	Then he edits it.
	Right.
	Nice, isn't it?
	Have you ever thought you might start editing this?
	No, mate.
	I find it too hard.
	We're going to be talking to him.
	We're off YouTube already, but like, we're going to talk to him about, well, I think people got the idea that it was going to be about 9-11 saying that the CIA, like the two of the 9-11 hijackers were CIA operatives.
	Recruits.
	Now that doesn't necessarily mean that 9-11 was a CIA scam, but put together, look at the various things you've seen.
	Whether it's that loose change documentary that used to be on YouTube, don't know if it still is.
	Tell us guys, is it still on YouTube?
	Can you find it now?
	Tell us in the chat.
	Or, if you're like a Michael Moore type person, remember Fahrenheit 9-11 when he was saying all the Saudi Royals were getting flown out of there and the Bushes and the Saudi Royal family?
	It used to be that you could get radical stuff from the left, and that's one of the reasons I like Max Blumenthal.
	I don't think he's a right-wing fascist, and I don't think he's an anti-Semite, because I feel like Blumenthal might be a Jewish name I've not asked before.
	All right, Max, are you a right-wing fascist anti-Semite?
	Let's get that out from the top.
	Well, I've been called a self-hating Jew.
	So they do it.
	You know, I always wondered why the self-loving Jews who call me a self-hater hate so many people from, you know, Palestinians, Muslims.
	It's always a question I've had.
	And why they seem to favor sending U.S.
	taxpayer dollars to neo-Nazis in Ukraine.
	You know, they care so much about our history.
	But, uh, you know, it really depends on who you ask.
	what label you want to apply to me. It's harder to get to anti-Semitism accusations for someone who
	is themselves Jewish, I would have thought, than people that are explicitly neo-Nazis,
	do the actual salute and everything, down with the swastika.
	That for me seems like a more legit charge of anti-Semitism. I mean, I think we can
	conclusively say that the Nazis are anti-Semites.
	Mate, can we ask you a little bit about the CIA infiltration of the 9-11 hijackers and how this is
	distinct from the kind of conspiracy theories that have circled around that event
	for the last 20 years or however long it is since it happened?
	Yeah, we can definitely talk about that.
	This was Related to a report we ran, another masterpiece by Kit Clarenberg, who you've had on, and I've written about this case in my book, The Management of Savagery, which came out in 2019.
	When I wrote that book, which is about the history of the US and its allies using jihadists, as proxies, as assets to undermine their geopolitical foes from the Soviet Union to Syria.
	We didn't know as much as we know now.
	There had been an investigation called Operation Encore that the FBI, that involved the FBI agents who had been attempting to prevent the 9-11 attacks or were at least Investigating al Qaeda and that investigation ended in 2016.
	The results were completely redacted.
	And so it took until.
	2021, for a 21-page filing by a guy named Don Canestraro, who is the lead investigator for the Office of Military Commissions, which was overseeing the cases of 9-11 defendants, for us to really learn what had always been suspected, and which I got at in my book.
	I said I suspected that two of the hijackers on American Airlines Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon, Had been recruited by the CIA and by a very secretive and I would say corrupt unit within the CIA that had been charged since 1996 with taking on Osama bin Laden and the Al Qaeda network.
	It's called Alex station.
	And, you know, this was widely suspected that they had been possibly recruited by the CIA.
	And it was confirmed by FBI agents interviewed by Don Conestraro in this bombshell filing, which was, and of course it was completely buried, just like a few blogs had picked it up.
	And so Kit went ahead and put all of the details together for us going back through Operation Encore and, you know, taking us to the beginning That's not the same of course as saying that 9-11 was an inside job and it certainly doesn't verify some of the ideas that have circulated although of course it's not the only inconsistency or troubling piece of reporting that's taken place around that.
	And of course, it's well established that the CIA, as you said, participated in the
	establishment of al-Qaeda, funded al-Qaeda, so it's not implausible that there were recruits
	from al-Qaeda operating in the US.
	It's kind of likely.
	Does that open the door, though, to conjecture around the events of 9-11 more broadly?
	And sometimes, like, forgive me if this is like a kind of question an idiot would ask.
	It possibly is derived from the fact that, to some degree, I am one.
	Isn't it true that, like, Building 7...
	and that there was a building in New York that kind of went down
	and then it just sort of stopped talking about it.
	My memories are hazy of that event.
	And I like, you know, and it's difficult to deliberately and responsibly
	put together narrative points that are proven.
	Building seven's weird.
	I mean, I'm a 9-11 conservative.
	I get a lot of heat from people who think it was an inside job.
	Building 7 is just weird.
	I mean, I remember on the day of 9-11, just hearing that Building 7 had gone down because of the impact to the other buildings, and it just sounded weird to me.
	The footage looks unusual.
	But I prefer to stick to the facts that I really know the most about.
	And this case is something that, you know, I've followed for years.
	The case of Khaled Al-Midhar and Nawaf Al-Hazmi, who are the two kind of muscle hijackers, supposed muscle hijackers on American Flight 77.
	And It's very clear they were recruited by the CIA.
	So, within the, you know, the theories, or those who hold theories around 9-11, there's kind of three schools of thought.
	Did the CIA do this because they simply wanted to infiltrate al-Qaeda and gain sources, and they protected these sources from the FBI?
	If the FBI had been alerted about the presence, and I'll tell you the whole story of al-Hazmi and al-Midhar, In a second, but if they had not, if they had not protected these sources from the FBI, the 9-11 plot would have been easily broken up.
	So, was it just because they wanted to gain access to Al Qaeda, or did they allow the 9-11 attacks to happen in order to produce what Paul Wolfowitz called in the weeks before 9-11, the catastrophic and catalyzing event that would allow the US to wage a massive military intervention in the Middle East and carry out its and Israel's goals.
	And then there's the third school of thought, which is that the U.S.
	government or U.S.
	intelligence was directly involved in the plotting of the attack in order to carry out those geopolitical and imperial objectives.
	And in the first camp, as I said, I'm a 9-11 conservative, but these new revelations raise a lot of questions about motives.
	I think it's generally obviously sensible to remain conservative, particularly when dealing with such sensitive matters.
	And even on our channel, where we fuse entertainment and conjecture, we are careful to ensure that we only use reliable information that's already been published frequently from Greyzone, as a matter of fact.
	But if you apply this conservatism in this instance, Where does it take you to even have the information that the CIA had operatives that were on flight 77?
	I know you named them.
	So what?
	It could have been prevented, I suppose.
	Is that what you're saying?
	Could have been prevented and Al-Qaeda could have never been created.
	I mean, we can go back to 1979.
	But in this case, you have, it's pretty fair to say, at least one component of the Day of Planes operation that had been planned for years and years and years to strike strategic targets inside the United States.
	One component was a Saudi CIA intelligence operation gone, to put it conservatively, gone awry.
	So you have Khaled Al-Midhar and Nawafal Hazmi, two Saudi citizens,
	radical al-Qaeda ideologues, who appear at a 1999 meeting in Malaysia.
	This was a January 5th meeting in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, with some of the top lieutenants
	of al-Qaeda, including a figure who was involved in the bombing of the USS Cole just a few
	And here you have CIA operatives videotaping the meeting, apparently they got no audio, they then broke into Khaled al-Midhar's hotel room when he was transiting through Dubai after the meeting, took a picture of his passport and found that he had a multi-entry visa to the U.S.
	Okay, so you have an al-Qaeda, hardcore al-Qaeda operative with a multi-entry visa To the U.S., and not only that, he and his buddy, al-Hazmi, were able to, from there, get on a flight to Los Angeles International Airport, walk off the flight with no interrogation or questioning, and then be picked up at the airport by someone named Omar al-Bayoumi, who is another Saudi citizen operating undercover as an employee of the Saudi Aviation Ministry, or Aviation
	As an aviation employee, so he could, I guess, get access to the airport.
	He then takes them to rent an apartment, gives them $1500 a month for that apartment.
	These are two guys who speak not a word of English.
	They're picked up, according to their neighbors, in black limos every night and are meeting with strange men.
	They're going to flight lessons.
	And it later turns out that they were actually living in that apartment with an FBI informant.
	Bayoumi, of course, turns out to be a Saudi intelligence officer who is managing these two figures.
	And the FBI never learns that these two figures were in the country after attending the super summit of Al Qaeda on their way to carry out an attack that George W. Bush was warned about in Crawford, Texas, a month before it took place in a presidential daily briefing.
	Bin Laden determined to strike inside the U.S.
	This was at a time when the system was blinking red, according to former U.S.
	intelligence officials.
	And what happened was, The director of Alex Station, this corrupt and highly secretive CIA unit which was charged with recruiting al-Qaeda officials, or recruiting al-Qaeda assets, Richard Blee, refused to tell the FBI's unit in charge of investigating al-Qaeda that al-Hazmi and al-Midhar were even inside the United States.
	There are so many more Act of cover up that took place to prevent the FBI from learning about them as this plot progressed.
	They weren't even told that they were on the flight manifest of American Airlines Flight 77 until days after the attack.
	The FBI wasn't even told that they had been at a meeting in Malaysia with a planner, a known planner, of the attack on the USS Cole.
	So the CIA covered this up all the way to 9-11, and it's the same CIA that is responsible in so many ways for fueling the rise of al-Qaeda and keeping it alive to the present day.
	And in fact, yes, you're quite right that you can sort of chart the history of the CIA to the founding of the Mujahideen and also you can say that there are still people in power, as you obviously just did, that are participating, presumably, in comparable programs
	even now.
	And I guess that's when we talk about the deep state.
	We're talking about inaccessible institutions and bodies that are powerful,
	that are able to act without mandate in ways that seem to be at odds
	with the interests of the American population and perhaps the world at large.
	And the way that the kind of global narrative is managed and enacted,
	right up to present day conflicts and potential forthcoming conflicts,
	involves these agencies.
	So sometimes even when you're approaching it conservatively in the manner that you understandably are when it's such a potentially incendiary story, it's still difficult not to think I feel that the system of government and deep government in particular is concerning.
	Do you suppose that when we talk about a story like the Nord Stream Pipeline, which increasingly appears to have been an operation conducted by forces of this nature, Do you imagine that with the burgeoning conflict between the United States and China, Taiwan could be subject to a kind of a Nord Stream-like event within their semiconductor industry?
	Yeah, that's a great question.
	You know, it's not just And it's not just idle talk.
	Gave me two seconds and I'll pull up the name of the former US General who has actually proposed a US attack on Taiwan's semiconductor industry.
	To prevent it from fall.
	This is a former national security advisor.
	You're looking for that data.
	I just I have it right in front of me.
	It's rich.
	It's Robert O'Brien and he was a major figure in the Trump administration's kitchen cabinet of national security advisors and.
	He has called for the US to bomb Taiwan's semiconductor industry, which would be actually a much more serious attack on the global economy than Nord Stream.
	I mean, Taiwan produces the majority of semiconductors through its TSMC, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company.
	It would mean just basically a collapse of the global economy in order to prevent the factory and the technology from falling into Chinese hands.
	And this is not just Robert O'Brien calling for this.
	We have other U.S.
	think tanks that have, you know, the Center for, well, other U.S.
	think tanks, sorry, the U.S.
	Army War College actually Call made a similar suggestion.
	So, this is not necessarily a call for a false flag attack to trigger a war, but it shows that the US would willingly devastate Taiwan and Taiwan's economy to prevent this critical asset from falling into Chinese hands.
	And it really highlights how the US sees its supposed allies who are really just proxies.
	And that includes Ukraine.
	The US is willing to see Ukraine's economy destroyed.
	And it's best men killed to extend a war against Russia, thrown into a slaughterhouse in order to bleed Russia.
	We should pull up that clip of the mainstream media where that current sitting US politicians said like where they were asked them on the mainstream is this the semiconductors that's like the resource wars of the 90s isn't it where you sort of had we have to have control these semiconductors and they just plainly said on the TV yeah we can't lose control of them and then he went like 10 seconds later but actually this is a war about democracy and freedom just have said it Democracy and freedom is what keeps us motivated.
	I'm glad you kept talking a moment ago because I was, to fill time, going to ask you a question that Firegirl2020 was asking in the chat.
	Did you enjoy the Met Gala?
	Did you ask Max if he watched the Met Ball?
	I feel that Max may not know that there was a Met Gala that took place.
	You know, I've been taking a break and I'm in Mexico right now, so I missed out on all that nihilistic dystopian hijinks, but... They were dressed up as cats and stuff.
	Yeah, it was pretty good.
	Have you got that clip anywhere?
	Has anyone got that out the back or is it to... Michael McCaw.
	If you can find that Michael McCaw.
	Was he on ABC?
	Chuck Todd, yeah.
	See if you can find that.
	Nice one, Phil.
	In short, do you think that the fact that there are semiconductor factories in Taiwan is not a significant consideration amidst this growing hostility?
	Is that a question for me?
	Do you think that's a significant component?
	If there were no semiconductor factories in Taiwan, would this all be going down now?
	Well, it is a major component, but it doesn't also explain U.S.
	aggression vis-a-vis Philippines toward China.
	I mean, this is about surrounding and encircling China, creating kind of a pressure cooker effect on China's leadership.
	And forcing China to spend more and more money on its military and less on its social programs and, you know, driving this program Xi Jinping has of building a middle class and redeveloping the country.
	It is also about competing with China, but I assume by now the U.S.
	would be eager to move those semiconductor plants To a place they would consider safer, because as Thomas Friedman wrote, Taiwan is to be the U.S.
	porcupine against China.
	Taiwan is like, if you consider the concept of Israel, as explained by former Secretary of State Alexander Haig, where Israel is an unsinkable aircraft carrier.
	It's a colonial implant in the middle of the Middle East that's a Spartan state, armed to the teeth with the most advanced weaponry, and the U.S.
	is going to use it to attack any country That takes an independent or adversarial position, and that's why Israel has invaded Lebanon, attacked Hezbollah, why it's constantly bombing Syria these days, and it says it's attacking Iranian targets.
	It just attacked deep in Syria and Homs.
	So that's also the role of Ukraine against Russia, a country that's controlled from the outside by the U.S.
	to antagonize Russia, to keep it in a constant state of war.
	to keep its leadership paranoid. And then Taiwan plays that role with China. And to a certain
	extent, South Korea, Japan and Philippines are intended to play the same role.
	Which is why, by the way, the US is so hostile to a peace arrangement between North and South Korea.
	With so many unpalatable truths, so palpably and demonstrably factual, it's clear that you require
	powerful machinery to prevent people assessing reality in those blunt terms.
	You need ongoing deep state operations.
	You need a compliant media.
	You don't need people Inquiring about the true nature of geopolitics and the kind of corporate and military relationships and the kind of colonial and resource necessities that underwrite much of the action that we're describing.
	And with the ability for this kind of counter-narrative to be expressed, like either on Greyzone or reported on our channel, you need censorship and surveillance.
	No wonder Julian Assange is in prison.
	No wonder Edward Snowden's in Russia.
	What do you think when you see something like that White House Correspondents' Dinner, like this sort of congratulatory circle jerk, where apparently the consensus between the media and the state is sort of reiterated and the framing for what's possible to discuss is reasserted?
	Yeah, I mean, what you see with the White House press correspondence dinner is the most hated group in America.
	Hated more than even Congress, and justifiably so.
	The regular American people hate the media because they know they're being lied to.
	And the media is there, the elite beltway media, giving itself awards for publishing fake stories.
	Going back to the Steele dossier on Russiagate, they were celebrating themselves for publishing fake stories because the means justify the ends, and then the means was humiliating and destroying Donald Trump.
	In this case, it's about celebrating and circling the wagons around Joe Biden, a doddering figure who, I mean, he put on a pretty good performance there, but someone who is simply a representative of the establishment and the kind of subculture that exists inside the Beltway that the rest of Americans are hostile to for justifiable reasons.
	And this is the same press that's trying to lie us into a war with China over Taiwan that's continuing to push this endless proxy war with Ukraine that's basically a cheerleader for that war.
	And that was the main vessel for duping the public into supporting war with Iraq.
	And what they're going to do if there is conflict with China is sell the war the same way they
	It's a war for freedom and they'll cover up any false flag or any incident that drives us into that war.
	And you know who knows better than the press is actually the rank and file of the US military.
	They do not want to go to war with China because tens of thousands of enlisted soldiers will die in the name Of us empire and the so called great power competition that's not just according to me.
	That's according to the center for strategic and international studies, which is a.
	Neoconservative-oriented, very anti-China think tank in Washington, which ran 24 war games, pitting the U.S.
	military against China, following a hypothetical Chinese invasion of Taiwan in 2026.
	And they found that the U.S.
	lost dozens of ships, hundreds of aircraft, and tens of thousands of service members.
	And Taiwan's economy was devastated, which means you can assume there will be hundreds of thousands Of dead Taiwanese people, maybe millions, maybe a nuclear exchange, maybe nuclear weapons reach China and Guam.
	Maybe they reach California.
	Hawaii has already run emergency operations where they were told that missiles were incoming.
	It was a.
	A lie, but the citizens there were terrorized into believing it in order to test the response systems.
	So, whatever you think about China, I know there are many people watching this who don't like China's system because they saw what it did in response to covet.
	This is about.
	Human life being devastated.
	And if that war ever takes place, it will produce an existential crisis inside the U.S.
	that will destroy whatever's left of the of the veneer of democracy and the press.
	Those people cheering Biden like sycophantic, loyal stenographers for the empire.
	They will be responsible and they will be least likely to die because they'll be furthest away from the fight.
	We'll look at the mainstream media now discussing the burgeoning conflict and look at the transition between truth and propaganda that takes place even within the clip.
	This is Michael McCaul.
	I can't remember if it's CNN or ABC, one of them.
	Have a look.
	It's like the case that would be made in the 60s, 70s and 80s of why America was spending so much money and military resources in the Middle East.
	Oil was so important for the economy.
	Is this sort of the 21st century version of that?
	You know, I personally, I think it's about democracy and freedom.
	No, darlings.
	You sweet people.
	Show the earlier clip where he says it's for semiconductors and stuff.
	Like, there's an earlier clip on there.
	There's the one where he sort of goes, yeah, we need semiconductors.
	We've got to have them.
	They're necessary.
	See if you can find that one.
	Max, you obviously dream big, because I've seen the size of your dream catch.
	Oh, you've got the clip now?
	OK, let's have a look.
	You sure?
	Because otherwise I can wrap this nicely.
	But let's have a little look at the clip.
	Make the basic case for why Americans not only should care about what happens in Taiwan, but should be willing to spill American blood and treasure to defend Taiwan.
	Nobody wants that.
	I think the deterrence is key here.
	We travel to Japan, South Korea.
	We are in Guam.
	We are meeting with our allies, our partners here, if you will.
	They don't have a NATO in the Pacific, but they do have partners.
	We want to make sure that they are ready and supportive of the United States and Taiwan.
	The case for Taiwan, it's a very good question.
	About 50% of international trade goes through the international straits.
	But I think more importantly, Chuck, is that the TSMC manufactures 90% of the global supply of advanced semiconductor chips.
	If China invades and either owns or breaks this, we're in a world of hurt.
	There you go.
	All right, Max.
	Hey, thanks very much for joining us for that.
	We really appreciate your time.
	What room are you in there?
	Is that your house?
	And why is there such a big dreamcatcher there?
	I don't have any dreamcatchers in my house.
	That would be cultural appropriation.
	Somewhere in an undisclosed location at an Airbnb in Mexico.
	For the best that you don't disclose it, some of the ideas you come out with, conservative on the subject of 9-11 or otherwise.
	Thanks, Max.
	It's great to speak to you and great to learn from you.
	You can get more from Max by going to thegreyzone.com.
	You can read his book, The Management of Savagery, and, you know, just follow Max.
	Love and adore Max.
	Cheers, Max.
	Lovely speaking to you, mate.
	That was fantastic.
	Okay, should we have a look at... What are we going to look at now?
	Are we staying on the subject of war?
	On the general topic of war?
	Should we do that?
	Yeah.
	Hey, you're gonna love this.
	This is, uh, Tucker Carlson.
	You'll obviously have seen that he's given that video, like, put that video out.
	Hundreds of millions of people have probably watched that by now, I imagine.
	And listen to how the Pentagon and the Department of Defense attack Tucker Carlson.
	And whose interests, therefore, is Tucker Carlson speaking against?
	Here's the news.
	No, here's the effing news.
	Have a look.
	Pucker Carlson has broken his silence and the Pentagon and Department of Defense are cheering his departure.
	Is it good that the mainstream media has cleansed itself of an anti-war voice?
	Where will opposition to mainstream objectives come from now?
	We're going to be having a look at Tucker Carlson's video response to the events around Fox News and his departure, focusing in particular on the anti-war rhetoric that Tucker Carlson regularly deployed.
	Now of course a lot of people on the left, centre left, I'd call them the neoliberal establishment, are attacking Tucker Carlson, but Where else are anti-war voices going to come from?
	Why did Fox News get rid of Tucker Carlson?
	Where will Tucker Carlson go to next?
	And where does radical opposition to the establishment agenda come from if anybody who speaks out against the agenda is one way or another cleansed from the system?
	Did you see the White House press dinner?
	What a cozy little jamboree with Joe Biden joking about the free press and how the press and the establishment have to work together.
	The free press is a pillar, maybe the pillar of free society.
	How can you have an establishment and press working together to keep ordinary people ignorant and bewildered and claim that it's anything like a free country with free comms?
	Voices that attack the establishment, that attack the deep state, that attack the corporatization of America and indeed the world are unnecessary at this time.
	That's why Julian Assange is in prison.
	That's why Edward Snowden's in Russia.
	And that's why Tucker Carlson's no longer on Fox News.
	Even though I disagree with Tucker Carlson about a bunch of stuff.
	Let's have a look at his video.
	One of the first things you realize when you step outside the noise for a few days is how many genuinely nice people there are in this country.
	Kind and decent people.
	People who really care about what's true.
	And a bunch of hilarious people also.
	A lot of those.
	It's got to be the majority of the population, even now.
	So that's heartening.
	One of the things that I like about Tucker Carlson is he's a kind of frequency jam.
	The way he has those conversations with political figures where he's like, oh okay, oh alright, he's a difficult person to contend with I imagine.
	And one of the things that surprises me is that people that oppose Tucker on cultural issues aren't willing to see that when it comes to things like the criticism of the war, The willingness to attack the establishment, the critiques of the military-industrial complex, the ongoing attacks of the deep state.
	These are exactly the arguments of what was once known as the radical left just 20 years ago.
	Cast your mind back to the late 60s or the early 70s, the counter-cultural movement, the civil rights movement, Black Panther.
	The attacks on radical anti-establishment voices often use the technique of saying, oh, you're far right now.
	But if we are far right for agreeing that the establishment needs to be took to task, then what have they become if they're on the same side as the Department of Defense or the Pentagon or the world's biggest corporations?
	What's happened to them?
	The other thing you notice when you take a little time off is how unbelievably stupid most of the debates you see on television are.
	They're completely irrelevant.
	They mean nothing.
	In five years we won't even remember that we had them.
	Trust me as someone who's participated.
	So it seems to me that Tucker Carlson primarily is attacking the mainstream media and obviously in particular his former employers Fox.
	Those of us that were observing Tucker Carlson personally felt that he was getting disillusioned with the limitations of operating within a mainstream space. And it's
	interesting to observe, isn't it? And let me know what you think in the chat and the comments. That
	if you go on the TV and attack the war machine, attack the deep state, attack the mainstream media, attack
	the two-party system, that in the end you will be excluded. It makes you wonder how much control Rupert
	Murdoch has over Fox and how much is a reflection of his own ideology. I used to think, well
	maybe they don't care what anyone says as long as it's generating views and revenue and money and
	power. Like having me on there, it's like they don't care if I'm anti-establishment. They just think,
	who gives a shit what that little limey's saying. But now I'm starting to think, oh wow,
	there's the potential that voices like ours, voices like yours, can really make a difference. And yet at
	the same time, and this is the amazing thing, the undeniably big topics, the ones that will define
	our future, get virtually no discussion War.
	Civil liberties.
	Emerging science.
	Demographic change.
	Corporate power.
	Natural resources.
	I would say that those are very important subjects, perhaps the most important subjects.
	Demographic change is of course the subject that people say suggests that Tucker Carlson is talking about race and the balance between different races in America and stuff like that.
	Personally, I feel that alliances between cultural groups that are not operating in the top tiers of the establishment is an absolute priority.
	And I wouldn't participate in the promotion of any ideas that turn people of different cultures, colours, races, ideologies against one another.
	Me, personally, that's not the way to go.
	But when it comes to the debate around war, when have you seen in the mainstream media a reasoned debate about trying to pursue a diplomatic solution?
	Debates like that are not permitted in American media.
	Both political parties and their donors have reached consensus on what benefits them, and they actively collude to shut down any conversation about it.
	Suddenly, the United States looks very much like a one-party state.
	That's exactly what Noam Chomsky is saying as well, that there is more censorship in your country, America, than there is in Russia.
	Noam Chomsky, about as far left as it's possible to go without it becoming, I don't know, it's not an angle anymore.
	You'd go back around to the right, which is what a lot of people are saying, obviously.
	Let me know in the chat and the comments if you think that Tucker and Chomsky are right.
	That's a depressing realization, but it's not permanent.
	Our current orthodoxies won't last.
	They're brain dead.
	Nobody actually believes them.
	Hardly anyone's life is improved by them.
	If you look at that White House press conference dinner and you see Joe Biden demanding that American journalists be released from prison, while you know that Snowden is in exile in Russia, while you know that Julian Assange is rotting away in prison, essentially waiting to be exiled or executed, you know that what you're watching is theatre.
	But Tucker Carlson is right.
	The orthodoxies are dead and brain dead, bereft of ideas.
	All they are is the advocates and managerial classes.
	This moment is too inherently ridiculous to continue.
	And so it won't.
	The people in charge know this.
	That's why they're hysterical and aggressive.
	into a state of constant friction around cultural issues, just so that there is some febrility,
	just so there's some energy around it.
	New ideas will come from new alliances, new ideas will come from new conversations.
	The old orthodoxies are indeed dead.
	This moment is too inherently ridiculous to continue, and so it won't.
	The people in charge know this, that's why they're hysterical and aggressive.
	They're afraid.
	They've given up persuasion, they're resorting to force.
	But it won't work.
	When honest people say what's true, calmly and without embarrassment, they become powerful.
	At the same time, the liars who've been trying to silence them shrink, and they become weaker.
	That's the iron law of the universe.
	True things prevail.
	Where can you still find Americans saying true things?
	There aren't many places left, but there are some, and that's enough.
	As long as you can hear the words, there is hope.
	See you soon.
	One thing to note is that the Department of Defense and the Pentagon are very pleased about Tucker Carlson's departure.
	At the upper levels of the Department of Defense, news of Carlson's firing from Fox News Monday was met with delight and outright glee in some corners.
	We're a better country without him bagging on our military every night in front of hundreds of thousands of people, said one senior DOD official.
	I would say that a bigger problem for the military are the fact that 50% of their budget goes directly to private military contractors like Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, etc.
	And members of the military are significantly likely to end up homeless, are unlikely to be able to afford their own shelter, and in significant numbers are using food stamps.
	These things are all true.
	Much easier to blame Tucker Carlson for bagging on the military rather than acknowledging that the military are always used As heroes when convenient, but are discarded whenever necessary.
	What people are suggesting is that the fact that 50% of military budgets end up in the hands of the Pentagon, that $1,000 a year from average Americans is ending up in the hands of the MIC, check those figures, I'm afraid it's true, is not the best way to direct the finances of a country in crisis.
	The following is from the American Prospect, a left-leaning publication who are willing to examine Tucker Carlson from a more interesting perspective rather than someone who don't like him.
	Carlson's insistent distrust of his powerful guests acts as a solvent to authority, frequently making larger-than-life figures of the political establishment defend arguments they otherwise treat as self-evident.
	Tucker's willingness to challenge and mock ruling elites went alongside an obsessively nativist message that alienated viewers who might otherwise have embraced his populist perspective.
	That's one of the aspects of Tucker Carlson that I would query as a person that believes that alliances between different cultural groups are necessary to displace establishment power.
	His popularity with a wide audience begs the question why other nightly news shows that attacked him didn't raise the same critiques without the nativism.
	And the answer to that is of course because they ultimately support the establishment and are unwilling to advance arguments that attack establishment power.
	Tucker Carlson went there, so even if you don't like him, you have to acknowledge that.
	but will not attack the Death Star, the heart of the machine, the MIC, financial interests,
	the deep state.
	Tucker Carlson went there, so even if you don't like him, you have to acknowledge that.
	Let me know in the comments and the chat if you agree or if you think I'm missing something.
	One answer is that Tucker Carlson tonight was an outlier in corporate-owned cable news,
	which is typically hostile to independent critiques of executives and political elites.
	The show declined to play the gatekeeping role that many of Carlson's detractors demand of mainstream media platforms.
	Carlson hosted Heads of State in the same week as fringe characters of both the far-left and far-right.
	He tapped into populist insights, cutting through left- and right-wing echo chambers, and put in hard questions to corporate executives and members of the political establishment.
	Though Carlson spent years as a staunch libertarian, he made a populist turn around the time of Trump's election, rejecting many of the free market doctrines he'd previously espoused.
	Republican leaders will have to acknowledge that market capitalism is not a religion.
	Market capitalism is a tool, like a staple gun or a toaster.
	You'd have to be a fool to worship it, Tucker said in a typical segment.
	Our system was created by human beings for the benefit of human beings.
	We do not exist to serve markets, just the opposite.
	What even that critique reveals is that Tucker Carlson is aware that free market ideology is beyond just economic utility and is being used to advance a particular agenda that benefits a particular strata of society and that is deleterious to the values of the majority of people and that we need new principles and new values or perhaps traditional old ones to be at the core of our belief systems.
	Without that we have apathy and inertia in one portion of the culture and a very insidious invisible ideology making sharp incisions throughout the body of the rest of the state.
	That passage of his monologue could have been lifted from a stump speech by Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders, progressive senators whose views on economic policy Carlson has at times echoed.
	Carlson often hosted segments focused on big tech with guests calling for the breakup of Silicon Valley giants and increased antitrust enforcement.
	He's been a frequent critic of trade policies that offshore jobs, a position that's found an unlikely ally in the Biden administration.
	His 2019 story on how hedge fund manager Paul Singer orchestrated a merger of Cabela and base pro shops that destroyed a town in Nebraska had few equals in broadcast news as a critique of financialisation's impact on neighbourhoods and local business.
	Those are the kind of stories and kind of moments that are going to appeal to a lot of people, because many of us are sensing that the current orthodoxy is leading to more centralization, a greater loss of jobs and community assets, a closure of small businesses, all things that started to become exacerbated during the pandemic.
	Let me know in the chat in the comments if you agree.
	Someone speaking out on behalf of those issues is going to reach a broad audience, and it's interesting to see that someone that speaks out on those issues is ultimately extracted from Fox News.
	In the past year, Carlton also broke with the Washington political establishment to express scepticism about the US sending tens of billions of dollars in weapons and security assistance to Ukraine.
	He has questioned the prevailing insistence that the war is not a proxy battle between superpowers and that the United States is not at war with Russia.
	The television host censured the Biden administration after comments made by the president that indicated the goal of US involvement in Ukraine was regime change, which White House spokespeople then had to walk back.
	Carlson repeatedly invited on independent journalists and commentators critical of American military adventurism.
	Political commentator Jimmy Dore told Fox News viewers, your enemy is not China, your enemy is not Russia, your enemy is the military-industrial complex.
	And it's amazing to see those kind of voices on Fox News.
	You're unlikely to see those kind of voices on Fox News after the departure of Tucker.
	So who benefits from that?
	Did you see Tucker Carlson asking outright, what is the intention in this war?
	When would it end?
	When do we know that the objectives have been met?
	Is there a limit to the amount of expenditure?
	And I would add to that, is there a democratic process?
	Could we vote for how much aid to spend?
	Could we simultaneously be pursuing a diplomatic solution?
	Those things didn't used to be called right-wing talking points.
	And the fact that they suddenly are suggests that there's something bigger happening in the culture than just, I don't know, Tucker Carlson is a terrible guy.
	While Carlson largely dedicated his show to criticizing Democratic lawmakers, he also excoriated the failures of Republican leadership.
	In one recent instance, Carlson aimed his signature incredulity at Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's comment that the most important thing going on in the world right now is the war in Ukraine.
	No, the most important thing going on in the world right now is the state of your country, the one you're supposed to run, the people you're supposed to represent, whose lives you're supposed to care about, the ones who can't buy food or gas, the people overdosing on fentanyl, he said.
	The fact that that voice is reaching a large audience, for me, is encouraging and shows that there are people that care about issues that are ultimately about the failing social fabric of America.
	If the mainstream media, as represented by CNN and MSNBC, are not willing to carry those messages, are not willing to go against corporate interests on the issues just listed in that one statement, Then I think it's not only likely, but beneficial that voices from elsewhere take up that cause.
	That ain't the fault of the populist right.
	That is the failure of the neoliberal left.
	Liberal media outlets like The Guardian scolded Carlson for his coverage of the Ukraine conflict, demanding to know who the host was really rooting for.
	Which just sounds like old school, you're not a patriot type stuff that during the Iraq conflict would have been right or left, surely?
	A chorus of op-eds on Monday cheered his ouster and the move to rescue his very impressionable audience from dangerous rhetoric.
	Baked into that statement, of course, is the ongoing assumption that you are stupid, that you can't make decisions for yourself, that you need didactic pedagogy instead of informed news giving you as balanced an opinion as possible.
	And of course, Tucker Carlson opined, and of course he had a perspective.
	Often, frequently, it was at odds with the establishment.
	People don't want to be spoken down to like children anymore.
	I believe people want to be given the information, given the chance to have a conversation, and potentially form new alliances that might be surprising.
	But cable news may struggle to find an entertainer equally skilled at skewering comfortable pieties on the left and right.
	So there you are!
	While you have a White House press dinner that celebrates the cosy relationship between the state and the media, you are ousting simultaneously significant and somewhat radical voices from the mainstream.
	Don't be surprised that there's room in the information age for anti-establishment narratives, that there's room for radical voices, that there's essentially room for change.
	When Tucker Carlson says in that video, the old orthodoxies are dying, he's He's absolutely right.
	There's a clear choice that has to be made.
	Do you empower communities to live differently and democratically, or do you double down on centralisation by creating conflict and conflagration?
	It's clear that the latter has been chosen, and it's clear that the former is what's required.
	Voices like Tucker Carlson's are facilitating the potential for a different type of government, even if there are cultural issues on which you hugely disagree.
	But that's just what I think.
	Let me know what you think in the comments.
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