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UFOs - Real or Distraction? With Jeremy Corbell - #088 - Stay Free With Russell Brand
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Hello there, you Awakening Wonders!
Welcome to Stay Free with Russell Brand.
It's a special Friday edition.
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We have to be able to speak freely.
It is now admitted by our government.
People don't know that.
By the ongoing work of the Department of Defense regarding unidentified aerial phenomenon.
Jeremy, what is the Mosul Orb?
This is a UFO, man.
We don't know who it's from.
From the sky will come redemption.
This is not science fiction.
This is science fact.
From the stars, from the skies, from the ulterior realms, the extraterrestrial interconnector, Jeremy Corbell himself!
Alright, Jeremy.
Hey Russell, how you doing, man?
I feel pretty positive.
I'm really excited to speak to you at this exciting time in your field of expertise.
How are you, mate?
Great.
I'm really good, man.
Everything is awesome.
You know, welcome to Planet Earth, the greatest show in the solar system.
It's getting wild, man.
Do you know where I want to start for our audience?
There's so many people, like myself, that have been fascinated with UFO phenomena, with extraterrestrial life, how that, how this This issue in particular could be at odds with the interests of the powerful because it suggests that there's a whole new ontological perspective that we're not considering.
It undermines our myths of progressivism, our understanding of our technology and how we got it, our understanding of scriptural writing, the Bible, the Torah.
Could they have been influenced by extraterrestrial guides, the great symbology within the pyramids of Egypt?
But suddenly now, the mainstream media appear to be reporting on UFOs, utilising UFOs to create, if not a distraction, to certainly manipulate the mainstream narrative.
Are you aware of what I'm talking about and how do you manage that in your unique position, Jeremy?
Yeah, look, it's really interesting that right now you're seeing it everywhere.
But if you look at kind of what I was saying with George Knapp, all of this right now, these shootdowns of these balloons, this has been happening since the 40s and 50s that we've had these platforms for reconnaissance.
This is an absolute game show about UFOs.
Now, the phenomenon itself is real.
There are unidentified, there are machines of unknown origin that were fabricated by some nation, maybe here, maybe not from here.
It's just been happening so long, so what you're seeing in the media is absolutely a manipulation of the phenomenon itself.
But, but, but, and remember, for the first time ever, we had a congressional hearing on this, actually first time in 50 years, and what they were trying to do was destigmatize the reporting process.
People are coming to me, as you can see from my releases, And I'm putting stuff out that should go up the chain of command.
So what we are seeing also, other than the media creating a sideshow, is we're seeing a true attempt to get pilots to report this stuff without stigma, to reduce the stigma.
So absolutely, there is a media spin, as always, we know that.
But there is a real phenomenon, and now people are looking at it.
I've never doubted the possibility of extraterrestrial life, which I suppose is the most exciting possibility that could lie behind these phenomena, that it's truly an expression of something non-terrestrial.
What fascinates me now that I've become more immersed in the alternative media space is that during a period where there are escalating tensions between the United States and Russia, potentially even between the United States and China, We're hearing more of these stories.
I was... I grew up on things like Roswell, Bob Lazar, Bob Exler, those whistleblowers, people that understood, like, extraterrestrial technology.
Those things, like, or Timothy Goode, Eric von Daniken.
This, like, world fascinated me because I knew there was something significant in it.
But it really, it surprises me.
It surprises me to hear the kind of sources that I've always been cynical about, sceptical of, talking about them.
You know, like we were talking to the production team here about how, like in a lot of your appearances on media, you'll go, now it's Jeremy Corbell!
And now they use the X-Files music, they kind of position it as a Almost as a now finally story, when actually what we could be dealing with is some, like this is what I think we've become trained to understand, that any story or idea that could meaningfully impact the interests of the powerful are always tightly managed and controlled.
You don't get given, like, you can take anything from climate change to war to the pandemic.
The version of events that you're given is the version of events that's going to be most beneficial to the powerful.
And with such a unique and unusual story like this one, I wonder how you feel it conforms to those parameters.
The idea that now military personnel are talking, are speaking out, and we've all known like, you know, about Foo Fighters and the way that even way back in the 40s
people talked about stuff and what about some of those ideas about that, you know, I
know you know loads more about this stuff than I do, like you know, that the Nazi Party
were interacting with the extra, all of it, I'm down for all of that stuff, but now I'm
always trying to alloy it to, how is this being used to control us? And it used to make
sense, when they wouldn't talk about it and they wouldn't admit it, I'm like, oh well
it's definitely true. And now it's like it's flooding the media space. So I'm just, I'm
struggling to adapt and I I wonder how you're adapting.
Yeah, so look, make no doubt about it.
There is spin on the UFO thing, but here you're seeing a collision right now.
This is what I call acquisition anarchy.
Right now, we are able to acquire these on what's called the ASA radar.
So when pilots fly, they're seeing them, they're picking up on this collective radar.
The phenomenon itself that include UFOs, it's become so Prevalent.
It is absolutely ubiquitous across the globe.
So what happens is you have more people that are seeing these, that are reporting these, that have evidence, that have video.
That's why I've been able to obtain and release a bunch of pilot filmed video in different systems like FLIR, Forward Looking Infrared, Optics, IR.
So we have corroborative visual evidence.
So what's happening is the powers that be, they're like, oh shit, All of a sudden we're seeing these and we need to deal with it.
How do we utilize that information to our benefit?
So that's what you're seeing in the media.
However, independent journalism, journalists like myself and my mentor George Knapp, we are the kind of gatekeepers of this information because people see it being lost when they send it up through command.
So they're reaching out to us, whistleblowers.
And I will also say, That there are people on the inside.
I know them.
They're trying to do the right thing.
They're trying to open up what has been covered up.
This is not science fiction.
This is science fact.
This is absolutely 100% true.
100% true. So what they're doing is they're putting into place whistleblower protection
acts. So someone like Bob Lazar, he can now go in front of Congress, the Senate Intelligence Committee,
he can tell them what he knows about secret programs, and then he'll be protected because
they have these reprisal kind of defenses that they built into this in the National
Defense Authorization Act of 2023.
Biden signed it.
It's pretty crazy.
So, on one hand, you have people saying, oh, shit, we can't control this.
We need to get ahead of it.
On the other hand, you have journalists like me and George and people leak to us, but we obtain and release.
Footage that is contained within classified briefings, but inherently unclassified.
So they're stuck between, you know, a rock and a UFO.
They don't know what to do.
But I do believe in humanity and in individuals doing the right thing.
So this cloak of secrecy, this cone of silence is now being lifted to some degree, but we got to watch them.
We got to watch them because they're going to spin it.
They're going to change it.
They're going to lock it back up.
And as soon as we get close to the goodies, which is the actual craft of unknown origin, not from planet Earth, as the New York Times reported correctly, which is odd that they reported anything correctly.
But there we go.
As soon as we get close to that.
They're going to try to lock it back down and I've already seen it.
Companies like Lockheed, Boeing, Raytheon, they're all looking how to obscure this information so they don't get busted in the crime of covering it up from the first place.
So, this does involve the deep state.
It does involve the military-industrial complex.
If there are extraterrestrial technologies, if there are materials, substances, ideas that can be utilized for profit and for power, of course they're going to find their way into the hands of the most powerful interests on on earth. If you're watching this on YouTube or Twitter
right now, we're going to click over to exclusively on Rumble. There's a link in the
description. Join us there because I'm very excited to talk to Jeremy about the, I think I'm
saying this right, the Mosul Orb, new video evidence that helps us to understand just how
extraordinary this technology is.
Me in particular, what I'm interested in is stuff that's not of terrestrial origin and how powerful interests are utilizing these technologies.
And what kind of ontological questions does it present us with?
I remember at the beginning of the pandemic, we thought now that we've all got a shared problem, perhaps it's going to bring people together.
Well, that didn't work out quite that way.
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Me and Jeremy are going to go a little bit deeper now.
Jeremy, what is the Mosul Orb?
And tell us, is this a particularly significant sighting?
Yeah, it's really significant that it was able to be seen by the public.
So let me be very abundantly clear.
There are these orbs, these spheres.
You said Foo Fighters, which all the way back to World War II, you have these metallic spheres that are traversing our restricted or war zone or combat areas.
And what happens is, through all of these decades, none of them ever have come out from military film.
Until now, I was able to obtain this image, which, by the way, was from a classified briefing about UFOs, or what they call UAP, Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena.
That's the true definition now.
And I was able to obtain it and release it And this image is the first time the world is ever seeing one of these UAP from a conflict zone.
Now, why is this important?
People were laughing when I said it about a year ago until they start understanding that it's true, which is that we sometimes shoot at these unknowns.
We shoot at them, but not just us.
We also know that Russia and Syria fire upon the same units, the same objects, which means it's not theirs.
So whose is it?
Now, this image, the Mosul Orb, is from northern Iraq.
Luckily, I was able to obtain it and release it.
But here's the deal.
It is from within a classified briefing.
What was that classified briefing?
That classified briefing, which was authored by a man named Jay Stratton, who ran the UFO programs for the United States for a while.
He put it in there to educate pilots and aviators and our warfighters.
Hey, this is what we're seeing.
This is one of those UFOs.
You should and can report it.
We're not going to call you cuckoo.
We get it.
We see it on radar.
We want to know more about it.
Because if we shoot at these, If we shoot at these in conflict zones and we don't know whose they are, we could misidentify and have a fight between two countries because we're shooting at UFOs.
This happens on a daily basis.
Our pilots are seeing these orbs.
Now, they're also pyramid in shape.
They're also cubes with spherical auras, which is reported by pilots.
So what you're seeing It's an image they don't want you to see.
It's from a video.
They don't want you to see it.
So the Pentagon is sitting there right now like, hmm, what do I do?
Jeremy just released an image.
We know it is from a classified briefing.
It is of a UFO, and we've designated UFO, and it's in a classified briefing.
What do we do?
Are we honest to the public?
That's what they're thinking.
So right now, Susan Goh, who's a woman who's the spokesperson at the Pentagon, is trying to figure out what to say.
And right now she says, I have nothing for you.
I mean, she says that to mainstream media.
She says that to independent journalists.
Well, they do got something for you.
They got a four second video that they can release to the American global public.
So I'm pushing, I'm pushing, trying to put gasoline Back onto this fire and make sure that they try to put out in the right way to the American and global public what this is.
This is a UFO, man.
Straight up.
They've made sure it's not a balloon.
They made sure it's not a satellite.
If you ever see the video, which I hope you do, it moves from the right side of your screen to the left.
It is under intelligent control and it is not ours.
It is not China's.
It is not Russia's.
This is not a balloon.
This is an intelligent controlled machine that is advanced and we don't know who it's from.
Jeremy, do you ever wonder what the philosophical and ideological impact will be of meaningful contact?
Do you assume, as many experts in your field have over the last 50 years, that contact between non-terrestrial entities and deep state officials has been ongoing.
I feel that in order to ensure that people appreciate how significant this It's important to bring to the forefront that we're talking about something that will alter our perspective of reality, our perspective of cosmology, geography, epistemology, our understanding of knowledge and history has to alter.
If we've been in regular, continual contact with UFOs.
All of this is, of course, speculative.
How could it be otherwise?
But the possibility that human evolution is being impacted, influenced, even directed.
Some of those theories about that we're living in a simulation start to have a different kind of grounding.
We'll start with this, Jeremy.
How deep do you envisage this contact goes?
You know, when you say the government, the Pentagon don't want people to see the Mosul Orb, what do you imagine is in those vast nowhere hangars?
What do you imagine is the kind of contact they've had?
What do you think Reagan meant when he said at the screening of Close Encounters, there's only a few people in the room that know how real this stuff is, how deep do you think the contact has gone and do you think it influences events here?
Right, so I don't need to believe, I don't have the luxury of disbelief about this.
You know, it is my job to speak with people in different levels of government and the military and pilots and, you know, look man, I don't have the luxury of disbelief.
I know for certain, and it has been proved to me beyond a shadow of a doubt, that we have full intact craft and machines that we've been trying to reverse engineer.
And I'll just say it, ma'am.
These machines, they're not from here.
Whoever built these appear to be a non-human intelligence.
Now, where they're from, because the word extraterrestrial means just not from Earth, but also the word alien.
You know, what is alien?
Alien is anything that is alien to us, right?
So, I know for certain that there have been limited comms or communications with whoever these builders, we'll just call them occupants, or builders of these craft are.
Now, are we being told the truth when we've had these comms with these builders or occupants, right?
And that I have no idea how could I possibly know, but I do know that we have reverse engineering exploitation programs for non terrestrial technology and I have brought forward witnesses.
I brought forward witnesses publicly as well as privately.
I brought witnesses forward so within government people know who they are and I will be bringing a lot more people forward that have actually worked on these technologies.
Verified, bonafide, no mystery, they've been part of these reverse engineering SAP's special access programs.
So look man, it's happening.
Now what is the implication of this?
And that's the huge question you just asked.
You know, how could I possibly know?
I know for me, I feel like I have a right to know, a need to know, and a personal duty to find out, but I also believe the global public has too.
Look at it this way.
If our universe, if the fabric of our reality, if the nature and the topography of what we understand to be real is vastly different, Then what we are being told and that is known, that is known by certain parties from mathematics and physics and material science to just the idea that we are not alone in the universe.
And not only that, but we have had contact for a long durational period.
Maybe we can't trust those we've had contact with.
That's a big deal.
Now, the reason for the secrecy, dude, this is like so obvious once you really grasp it.
It's so simple.
This technology can be weaponized.
We're talking about weapons of mass destruction.
The actual propulsion system in these craft are gravitational.
If anybody can catch up with the material science to making these materials, which you would need atomic layering in a zero-gravity environment, if we were able to replicate that, let's say China does, let's say Russia does, All of a sudden, what happens is that country has an advantage beyond anything that has ever occurred in the history of humankind.
So this is being taken very seriously by people within our Defense Department.
I can attest to that personally, that I know that to be true.
This is not a fringe topic.
This is classified at the highest level of national security within your government, within my government.
Now we got some goodies.
And we're trying to work on them.
But the big question is, how does it change humanity?
How does it change the way that we interact with our family?
How does it change the way that we prioritize our jobs, our work, what we do with our life?
Once we learn that we are part of a bigger ecosystem, a cosmic ecosystem, and that distance and space and time is irrelevant to travel, It changes the way that we deal with fossil fuels.
It changes the way that we deal with our basic understanding of interfacing through electronics and communications.
It changes everything, and it changes it now.
We are slow to grow.
That is true about humanity.
We are slow to grow.
But the thing is, we're smart, we're capable, and we do grow.
It's time they open the books on the UFO topic.
You know that if you change our understanding of, I don't know if you call it post-Newtonian physics, our understanding of distance, space, time, velocity, the way that this gravity-based propulsion system suggests that we could do, then I suppose you have to similarly examine The worldviews and philosophies that have grown out of the scarcity and limitation-based ideals that are underrated by that, like the temporal ideology, time is limited and linear, you know, those sort of, obviously some of Einstein, the theory of relativity challenges that, that space is a sort of an absolute commodity, but there are things in quantum physics that query that, about sort of those objects traveling beyond the speed of light, for example,
Or, you know, the objects might not be right when you're talking about quantum phenomena.
So, it seems then, I wonder, it becomes difficult to envisage what the ideologies and philosophies of a species of beings that are able to operate at that level might be, and suggests to me at least, Jeremy, that they might regard us more like flora and fauna, Rather than peers.
We'd be more, we're in ant farm territory, rather than, you know, shared members of some space council.
And I am reminded of the sort of thing Neil deGrasse Tyson sort of said when he was on our show, but I know he says it a lot, because it's pretty cool, if we're 2% smart, if the 2% difference between us and chimps represents all of culture as we understand it, A 2% more advanced species than us would have access to ideas that we can't even conceive of.
I suppose that's why in our conversation we have to continually move between what's demonstrably true, even though those aspects of this story Any area where you're not getting involved in speculation and conjecture is why you have to be a little more disciplined in the conversation.
But I'm accustomed, much like their machinery, to move from the quantum realm to the cosmic realm.
To move between, well, if this is true, then what does that mean?
If this is true, what does that mean?
Because that's what fascinates me.
I suppose your relationship with Bob Lazar must be super significant to you because he's a person that's been in this space for a long time.
I suppose most people that are fans of our channel, members of our community, will be familiar with him.
But my understanding is that Bob Lazar was an independent engineer that was asked to
work on some recovered technology and had to sign all the usual stuff that you might
imagine and has subsequently gone on to speak at length.
There's a lot of, I've seen a very successful video between you and Rogan and Bob Lazar
talking about, is he legit, is he the real deal?
And I know that you believe he is and I believe he is.
I wonder how significant his contribution is to this conversation and how his contribution
alters with these recent spate of revelations.
Sure.
So, let's talk about Bob Lazar, but I want to touch upon the first thing you said.
You know, we're living in a data-rich environment, but we're, like, data poor in the way that we see it, we look at it.
The scientific community, even our friend Neil deGrasse Tyson, has made statements where we realize, oh man, they really got to catch up.
They're not exposed to the data.
I see Congress and Senate not having as good briefings As George Knapp and I do as journalists, and that's concerning.
That's real concerning.
So the first thing you talked about was, what's the intent?
You know, we an ant farm, you know, let's go real dark to real light, then we'll get to Bob Lazar.
The real dark is, look, man, when we got cattle, what do we do?
We treat them poorly from their perspective, or do we feed them, give them water, make sure they're healthy with antibiotics, but they're a commodity to us.
That's just the truth about, you know, meat industry here in the United States and beyond.
So the dark version is, oh, man, yeah, they're taking real good care of us because we're some sort of commodity.
Right.
Then the other side, the lighter side is, hey man, they've been here a long time.
This is obviously some sort of reconnaissance program or some sort of thing where there is interest with human consciousness and these, you know, beings, these non-terrestrial beings that seem to build and operate these craft.
So it's kind of like pick your poison.
Who you are will really reflect in your answer, right?
It's like the evidence shows us that they've been here a long time.
But how you answer what you think the intent is, it's all speculation.
You know, we know UFOs are real.
We know they're made by somebody, you know, not from here.
But what they're doing here, it'll reveal more about us than it will about them.
Now, whatever that truth is, let's move on.
Bob Lazar.
For those of your audience who don't know who Bob Lazar is, I think the best way to learn about him is just watch the documentary I made on him, because I tried to humanize him.
Because he is a human, first of all.
And second of all, because people would dismiss what Bob Lazar said by attacking who he is, by attacking his persona, his individualism.
And that's a real mistake.
That's actually a very dangerous mistake when you can't separate the message from the messenger, what it is that we know from what it is that we think.
So Bob Lazar was tasked by the United States military in 1989 to reverse engineer a propulsion system that was non-terrestrial.
It was from a spaceship.
It was absolutely from a disc-style spaceship.
He called it the sport model.
He had cute little nicknames for all of them.
I have proved that he worked out at Area 51.
I have talked to other employees that saw him go there and get off the bus and drive down to S4, which is the name of the building where he worked in on these non-terrestrial technologies.
We had nine intact craft.
This is fact.
Whether people want to believe it or not, it doesn't change the fact.
You gotta wrap your head around that reality ain't what it used to be.
We now know it's true.
So Bob Lazar is kind of like a whistleblower, except he did so because he was fearful for his life.
Because at the time, and I see it up to this day, by the way.
I see it up to this day.
Witnesses that have come forward to me are threatened.
And they are threatened by people that are within special groups within government.
And we're not standing for that anymore.
That's why Congress and Senate did this Whistleblower Protection Act.
So how significant is Bob Lazar?
And how does it relate to what we're seeing in the news?
Bob Lazar is probably the most central significant person when it comes to the public knowing about our government, our military, reverse engineering, alien spaceship From other worlds.
That's Bob Lazar.
That's what he did.
And George Knapp brought him forward.
Now, today, what we're seeing, man, George Knapp and I said, very beginning, when you see these shootdowns, the United States pops a balloon with a missile, by the way, they didn't even hit its center, it was down to the right.
Whatever.
When you see that on national TV, what are you really seeing?
Those balloons have been around forever.
If we really cared about secrecy within the United States, so no exploitation from China, doing this kind of reconnaissance, we would worry about our cell phones much more than we're worrying about a floating balloon that we shoot with a missile on national television.
And then, and then, we get all these other shoot downs.
Oh, can't find the debris.
I'll just tell you, these are not UFOs.
These are balloons, and this is all theatre.
Everything you're seeing from the mass media is absolute theatre, other than when I do an interview with knowledge on, like, CNN or something, because I fight for that.
I make sure the truth is being brought out.
So, Bob Lazar gave us the basics.
And then from there now, you're seeing this kind of sleight-of-hand thing going on the surface level.
But underneath the surface, there are people very interested to hear from people like Bob Lazar, who know the names of the programs, who had hands-on experience, and who actually worked on these things unsuccessfully, because we don't have the material science.
But that is also happening in tandem right now, is good people, patriotic people, are trying to find out, what's up with UFOs?
What do you think the spiritual connotations of this are?
I remember one aspect of stories about these encounters, and sometimes even contemplation of these encounters, sometimes even with like military personnel that have had experiences, is the kind of return of awe and wonder, this kind of deep connection we have with celestial bodies, You know, Ezekiel's wheel, Jacob's ladder, the idea that from the sky will come redemption, that from the sky will come the rapture, that the sky is the place from which the prophets descend to us.
What do you think about this aspect of this story that is, well, even when you talk about the propulsion systems of these craft, which you say is verifiable, and now there's certainly a lot more significant evidence than there ever has been, we are talking literally about ideas that are beyond materialism.
They still may be measurable, but we're talking about energetic forces that defy our understanding of how material reality operates.
So what do you feel the connotations of this are, spiritually?
And do you feel that this is something that will become more relevant as we contemplate this subject?
Or do you think it will become, like many things do, about resources and power?
Yeah, we have to defend against things that are spiritual in nature, you know, becoming twisted.
You know, they always become twisted because of, you know, greed and shame and all sorts of things that humans come along with whenever we're born, right?
So here's the deal, man.
When you say something is spiritual, for me, that's very physical.
So the idea of spirituality, just personally to me, it's got to be something that we can consistently tap into.
So the idea that we're part of this bigger ecosystem is a deeply spiritual idea for me.
When I look up to the stars and I see how vast the universe is, I don't feel disconnected.
I feel more connected.
All of a sudden, I'm getting goosebumps, man.
All of a sudden, I realize that Reality is not what we thought.
There's a kind of interconnectedness that we have with the stars themselves, with the molecules and the elements that have formed us.
And I look out there and I think, well, of course there's advanced intelligent life that has survived and gotten along.
You've got to get along to survive.
Obviously, 150 years of technological innovation, we can already blow up the Earth.
So you've got to get along to survive.
And the fact that that has happened, And the fact that there is another intelligence visiting here, if not one, I mean many, durationally, tells me that there is something precious.
There's something precious about human consciousness.
There's something precious about the physicality of existing in a Goldilocks planet, spinning and orbiting through the cosmos, which is Earth, Sol 3, the third planet from the Sun, right?
And that there are so many more of those.
So when you say spiritually, for me, It's a very physical man.
It's what I'm connected to.
It's what you're connected to.
What all connects us, which is that there is something greater and bigger and just absolutely pure creation and curiosity and exploration.
That is all there.
I always make the joke, you know, my curiosity has been weaponized, but it's true.
I can't be a passive consumer of trying to be on the frontier of knowledge.
I'm not a good mathematician.
I'm really, you know, not that great at geography.
But one thing that I am good at is continuously asking questions because I'm a curious person.
So the spiritual implications for me is that there is an unlimited amount to earn in a limited amount of time.
Our lifespans are this big, man.
This big.
So what can we do in that time to grow and learn and evolve and change the way that we interact with the world?
That is a spiritual concept and that is how it transforms people.
When they see something not of this world, when they personally encounter something that is so far beyond the box they realize there is no box, It forever changes the way that they interact with the rest of humanity.
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SensitiveHeart25 says, Hey Russell and Jeremy, I love the spiritual part of this conversation.
I feel in awe of heavenly bodies and I feel connected to them.
So people are enjoying the sort of scope and scale of this conversation.
says, love thy neighbors from hell. Claude says, we're being pushed to evolve. Peace,
love and light, we're connected to stars and planets.
Blessed old bird, from dust we came and to dust we shall return. Some beautiful images.
Everything is physical, says Rachel Column and spirits are energy that is physical. So people
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Which is currently being discussed primarily in economic terms, somewhat in ideological terms, because the AI is obviously being programmed by someone.
It's also being discussed in geopolitical terms, like who masters AI technology, like you said about these gravitational propulsion devices, will have a significant advantage as we move forward.
I wonder what you think about the advances in AI and whether or not these are the kind of technologies that have had an influence from non-terrestrial sources.
Yeah, it's really quite possible if you look at the evolution of our science and also the phenomenon and our connectivity to the UFO phenomenon.
But just look at it this way, from my perspective, when AI becomes indistinguishable from actual sentient intelligence, what is sentient intelligence?
So we get to the point where there's this AI, artificial intelligence, that is Indistinguishable from sentient intelligence.
So who are we to judge?
So once you get there to that point, then you start looking at, well, can biology itself, the computer mechanism of zeros and ones that make up our DNA and RNA and that sort of thing, If that merges programmably with this artificial intelligence, which we're already seeing happen, by the way, once that merges where the biological connects with this sort of artificial intelligence or programming and we can program this intelligence into biology, then you get what people speculate about like these alien greys or something like this, that these are sentient
biological organisms, but are actually artificial intelligence in bed.
So that's the idea here, is that in the future, if UFOs, maybe they represent us from the future.
I don't know.
So here's the deal.
If we can then merge that, and we have that absolute point of merging, then that's what people say that some of these entities that operate these craft, that they are connected to the craft themselves.
So basically the car keys is your DNA.
That's part of what's said, and what's also said, and I don't know this to be true by any means, but this is just what's said, and you're asking.
Is it these kind of artificial cyborg intelligence, biological yet machine-like through their DNA?
That these beings, that they were created.
So their creator is actually another physical being.
So if that is true, and I don't know, but if that were to be true, it would be really interesting to see how humanity might be sparked, right?
Remember the movie Prometheus and how there's a seeding, it's called directed panspermia.
The idea that there's something from an external influence that comes in and seeds DNA.
And if you look at DNA and the way that it is created, we can absolutely replicate it.
We can actually build beings, which is so bizarre.
We can already do that.
So, you know, if you think about it that way, everybody can become a creator, a creator of life.
So if that answers your question, it's really bizarre.
Terence McKenna used to speculate that there was something peculiar about mathematics being a kind of language of nature, that why ought there be observable grammar and templates in the natural world?
Much of Buckminster Fuller's work focused on the fractal patterns that emerge out of nature.
That it's an expression of a kind of central intelligence.
I'm fascinated when you talk about the various ways, and I know you're just speculating for fun because it's the type of conversation we're having, the various directions that we could go in when speculating on this subject.
Is it future us's?
There's a vast mythology around this subject, which of course is now becoming a little more refined as we deal with the The scientific aspect of it and the evidence-based aspect of it, which is obviously significant because the kind of space we operate in, I mean, cultural space, means that those are the things that are going to have value.
What do you think, though, of the idea that there are various species?
I liked reading about, like, you know, greys, and what about also, mate, the more...
In the good old days of conspiracy theory, which we have to be extraordinarily cautious around, there was this idea that there were reptilian interdimensional beings that were operating behind, for example, the British royal family, shapeshifting and all that kind of stuff.
I know this is not your area of expertise in journalism, that you focus much more on what is empirically demonstrably true, and I respect that, but As a passionate man on this subject, have you looked into that kind of stuff, and what are some of the more fascinating aspects of that kind of mythology?
And let's call it a mythology to represent it might demonstrate true emotions, but it's certainly not empirically true at this point.
Right.
So I mean, that base question is, you know, are we being visited by a non-human intelligence?
And, you know, but are they among us?
And really famously, a man named Robert Bigelow from Bigelow Aerospace, who's put more private money into researching the UFO programs than anybody else.
He actually helped fund some of these UFO programs and worked with the Defense Intelligence Agency.
So this is a guy that knows a lot.
And he went on 60 Minutes and he very famously said, You don't gotta look far, basically, for these beings.
They're right under your nose.
And he kind of, like, laughs a little bit.
Well, that's coming from a guy who actually has direct knowledge about a lot of this stuff, so it wouldn't surprise me if there was some sort of...
Non-terrestrial being that is actually here living among us.
Like, it wouldn't surprise me.
Again, this is speculation.
No idea.
You're very gracious in saying, yeah, I'm a nuts and bolts person.
My family thinks I'm fucking nuts, but I am nuts and bolts and that I try to focus on the things that I can really prove because I want to know the truth.
I could speculate all day until I have evidence.
With that said, it is really fun to think about this.
So if there are other types of beings, let's go through them.
So you could have extraterrestrial, you know, not here, you know, from planet Earth.
You could have extra-temporal, not here from our time.
You could have extra-dimensional.
From another dimension that is simply sitting right on top and imperceivable to us at most times.
I don't really know what dimensions mean.
Our good buddy Joe Rogan, you know, said something about 40 something dimensions.
I said, I can't even live in this one.
I don't know what that means.
I'm not smart enough.
I haven't looked down that path, but it's a cool idea.
One of my favorite concepts or theories, because this comes from my personal understanding, I called it the techno-terrestrial.
The evidence suggests to me, and that's not a popular term, but I'm going to make it popular, the techno-terrestrial, the idea that it is possible that this is a program, a galactic program, a cosmos Program an idea that we can seed DNA and intelligence with technology to different places that could inhabit sentient intelligent biological life.
So I call it techno terrestrial with the idea that technology is exactly what's being seated and the idea that that technology that is being seated within propel those who were seated to develop technology and continue to learn how to build it.
Beings and then go and become a spacefaring civilization and seed it again.
And to me, this is one of the greatest population programs to maintain and build the ecosystem of consciousness within our cosmos.
If this pet theory, which I have no idea, you know, just kind of made it up one day, but from the evidence that I've seen.
I believe at this point it's possible, just as extraterrestrial as possible, just as extra-temporal as possible, just as extra-dimensional as possible, just as it is possible that these are civilizations that have been hidden here on Earth for a long time, longer than modern humanity.
That it's possible that this is a techno-terrestrial that we're dealing with.
A large program to seed the cosmos with consciousness.
And that's just my favorite theory.
No idea, but it feels good to me.
When you talk in depth about the vastness of the spectrum of possible ideas, I'm always moved to think how ridiculous our globalised tribal conflicts are, because there are so many ways to look at reality that exaggerated and amplified versions of The primal primate conflict just seems absurd and ridiculous.
A lot of people in our chat, Jeremy, got a lot of love for you, I've got to say.
Oh wow!
And people want to know what's in that safe as well.
What's in that safe?
What's in?
Behind you, there's a safe.
What do you mean?
It's a hologram!
It's a hologram, I tell you.
I know what you're talking about.
That's CIA information.
Controlled opposition!
That's one of our favourite buzzwords.
Mate, another one of the big blockbusters in the UFO heritage is the Roswell case.
With all of this new information and stuff about weather balloons being in the news right now, how do we reframe one of the great cultural artefacts of the history of this subject The case of Roswell, where some people say there was an alien autopsy, where some people say that it was definitely a UFO, where some people say that even the ground there is showing signs that it's interacted with, you know, like a kind of gravitational propulsion system such as you described.
How do you reframe those divisive stories that some people think are definite proof and other people have always thought were hocus-pocus in light of ongoing and new evidence?
And even the way that the media at the time reported it and the kind of psyops around it.
How do you reframe something like Roswell, one of the classics?
Yeah, so just from your question, I know that you have a lot of knowledge on it, where maybe a lot of people don't.
So just to frame it to begin with, look, there was a crash.
There was actually two crashes of something in Roswell, New Mexico, back in the 40s.
And this was a time when UFOs were abuzz in the news.
This was a time when we were asking serious questions about the UFO phenomenon.
You know, we had a general come forward on television and talk about the flyovers of Washington, D.C.
in 1952.
I mean, for that decade or two decades, there was so much information.
So this Roswell, New Mexico, it was a crash and it was a crash of a vehicle that appeared to be a non-terrestrial origin.
And there were physical beings on this and they were sequestered and taken away.
And some of that material was brought into private industry in order to deflect The public's ability to find out about it, because when something's in private industry with oversight by government, you can't do what we call FOIA or Freedom of Information Act requests.
So all of that gets tucked away.
Can't learn about it.
Can't know.
But all of a sudden there was a break and people started saying, hey.
Something happened here.
Because remember, initially, like you stated, it was said, you know, we finally got one of these discs, one of these flying saucers.
That was from our military.
That was an official stance.
It was a press release.
And they immediately came back and retracted it the next day.
However, the guy that originally put out the press release, he came out for it later and said, yeah, they showed me, you know, this picture with this tinfoil.
He's like, that's not what it was.
That's not at all what it was, and they were having me lie to the American public.
So, you got somebody who's got everything to lose, nothing to win, and then you start getting hundreds and hundreds of witnesses.
So, the Roswell, New Mexico crash of a UFO is real, and that has been something that has been used to try to create the laugh factor, the giggle factory, to try to make people uncomfortable with understanding and learning this idea.
The whole idea conspiracy theory was embedded into our culture, By a government agency, this is something you can track and trace and learn the history of.
It's just like reading a history book, but it's more fun.
So look, man, that's the stigma.
It was created surrounding Roswell because they're like, catch and release.
It's true.
Wait a second.
We can't say that until we figure out what's going on.
How do we reframe that?
Well, look, just a couple weeks ago, George Napanai brought someone forward who has never come forward before.
He was the head of the UAP, Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon, task force.
His name was Jay Stratton.
This is the guy that actually formed it like a business within our government, and he believes in transparency.
And one of the things he said, which people might have missed, Is he says, we don't want to make the same mistakes that we did with Project Blue Book, which, by the way, was a complete whitewash of the truth.
They were there to dismiss UFOs and in quotes, right, to demystify the UFO topic to the American public.
That was their goal.
So they made a mistake.
So he said, we don't want to make the same mistakes as we did with Project Blue Book, meaning those were lies.
And he says, we also don't want to make the mistake like we did in Roswell.
And what he's saying is the lies to the American public.
So how do we reframe it?
Well, listen to people that are telling you the truth and have come forward just recently telling you you should reframe it.
Because what's fascinating is we're back to where we started to a degree.
That because of the way this information has reached us, certainly in the modern age, we have a natural skepticism about it.
We've been messed with.
It's always been part of our culture to contemplate beings from another realm, and I like the way you broke down the potential ways you could look at that.
Folklore is full of Fairies and entities and magical beings and of course we've come to regard mythology as something to be dismissive of.
In this post-enlightenment age there has been the assumption that humankind is the apex of all being, that our stories of history are complete, that our philosophies are total, that really what we're doing now is just managing the way we exist on this planet with no new visions, no new dreams.
And as there are So many apocalyptic stories that dominate the news cycle at the moment from potential Armageddon between the United States and the proxy war with Russia, with the pandemic and the way that it was used to introduce more surveillance, more control,
Induced a wealth transfer.
A story like this one I think has a great deal of potency and it's interesting that we can see that in the modern age our attitudes around it have changed and that we are cynical about it too.
If you charted from Roswell to the more recent balloon sightings, look at how the way that this story has been reported has altered our ability to appreciate what the deeper connotations of Non-terrestrial life are.
Jeremy, thank you so much for your incredible work on this subject, for disseminating these ideas, for being rigorous about the science and the limitations of the knowledge, while not being mean about speculation and conjecture on spirituality, because all of those things are enjoyable and fun, and we have to be able to imagine and speculate to enjoy it.
So I'm very grateful to you for the work that you do and for your friendship.
Thank you, Jeremy.
Yeah, thank you for your friendship and thanks for talking about this.
I just want to say, you know, you said it at the beginning here, but at the end of all of our exploring, we're going to arrive right back where we started.
That's something I think T.S.
Eliot said, and it is true with this.
When we look back at mythology and folklore, we have to look at it through a scientific lens now.
Consensus reality is about to catch up With actual reality and that or took to a level and that is what I'm most excited about, you know, so thank you for your show and for getting, you know, your audience to engage this topic.
It is one of the greatest mysteries of our time and it might just be one of the most important spiritually that we could ever ever learn about.
Jeremy Corbell, thank you.
You can find Jeremy's podcast by going to weaponizedpodcast.com.
We're going to be off now for the next few weeks.
I'm actually going to be venturing into a spacecraft myself and limiting and visiting new dimensions.
Potentially, as long as the deal gets done, I may yet renege on the entire venture.
We'll still be dropping fresh presentations, meditations and more.
You're going to be seeing me All being well.
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