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Oct. 12, 2022 - Stay Free - Russel Brand
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Stay Free with Russell Brand #011 - Pfizer - They Admitted It!
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I'm going to go ahead and get you out of here.
I'm going to get you out of here.
Brought to you by Pfizer.
I'm gonna lose you.
In this video, you're going to see the student service.
Hello and welcome to Stay Free with Russell Brand.
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The theme of today's show is of course Pfizer.
They admitted it.
We saw a Pfizer exec under a degree of scrutiny, or at least questioning, admit that they never tested transmission efficacy with the Pfizer vaccine trials.
I mean, isn't that the most extraordinary thing?
After for a couple of years hearing that if you're an unvaccinated person that you are irresponsible, I believe Joe Biden, for example, said this Is a pandemic of the unvaccinated, right?
Can you remember that?
We'll be checking in with that in a little moment.
It's for me an extraordinary day where so many issues coalesce around this.
The ability of the media to control a narrative, like for example, are you seeing anywhere on CNN, MSNBC, maybe on Fox?
Let me know where you're seeing it because we don't tend to watch that stuff too much.
On the BBC, In mainstream newspapers, are you seeing them saying, yeah, okay, hey, listen, we misrepresented the efficacy of vaccines?
If you're not, you have to ask yourself why, because they were pretty keen to spend taxpayer money on advertising those campaigns.
Stop the spread if you're... watch out for your... I mean, it was at a point where it was tantamount To kicking a grandmother into a ditch to not be vaccinated every hour on the hour.
So we're going to be covering that in some depth.
Also in our main story today, we're talking about billionaire bunkers.
Are the billionaire class preparing for Armageddon?
And is it possible that what most people consider to be crises, i.e.
the economic crash, the pandemic and potentially even nuclear war, for an elite strata of society are actually opportunities?
Comment on that as well.
We'll be talking to the brilliant author Douglas Rushkoff as well about the billionaire bunker class.
And live in the studio is the brilliant philosopher Brad Evans.
He's a professor of violence.
He's a fantastic academic.
But let's get us started with a little bit A little bit of normal news and see if we can tell if these things are pointless distractions or whether or not they're just downright lies.
Joining me in the studio as always is Gareth Roy.
Hello Russell.
Hello mate.
Do you feel ready to do some news?
Yeah, about as ever I think.
Do you feel ready to blast some brass?
Nope.
We've been talking for a while about Gareth is, as well as a great producer, able to bring together a variety of news stories, anti-establishment, anti-big business, anti-media stories and present them in a way that's not too hysterical and is usually underwritten by brilliant research.
Gareth likes to Blast a lungful right down a French horn.
Who among us doesn't?
Perhaps by the end of the show, if there's enough goodwill in the chat, we'll encourage Gareth to give the old, that curly golden little horn a blast.
But before that, let's do some news.
Isaiah Executive admits COVID vaccine was never tested on preventing transmissions.
Oh wow, that's some news.
We'll go into that in some depth.
Gareth, what?
Oh no, I've got another news story.
Biden says no one should be in jail for just possessing marijuana.
The good news is that no one is in jail for just possessing marijuana.
They checked.
So that's a problem solved there that didn't exist.
I wonder what other imaginary problems Joe Biden could solve this week.
Hopefully he could solve the problem of people not being willing to play the French horn on command.
That's something that we can address right within our own environment.
Have you got a news story for us, Gal?
Oh yeah, thanks.
Yeah, so Gazprom say NATO mine destroyer was found at Nord Stream 1 in 2015.
So obviously this is the ongoing mystery around Nord Stream 2.
The explosions that happened, I think, about a week ago.
And now Gazprom are saying that Nord Stream 1, they'd found a mine basically in 2015.
Didn't explode, but they found it there anyway.
So there was a mine there?
So people had put mines there previously?
A NATO mine.
It's got NATO written on it?
I don't know about it.
Oh, because you found a NATO mine there from 2015 and now it's just blown up, you automatically assume that because it'd give us an economic advantage that we're somehow behind it.
That's the story, is it?
Yeah, that's right.
Mind you, they said it was a NATO device called the Seafox.
It was retrieved from a depth of around 40 metres and made safe.
Seafox?
I know, Seafox.
Childish.
So, at the same time of this, Nord Stream operators have said they were unable to inspect the damaged sections because of restrictions imposed by Danish and Swedish authorities.
Nord Stream AG, operator of the older Nord Stream 1 pipeline, said they've been told by Danish authorities that receiving the necessary permits to carry out an inspection could take over 20 working days.
When did Danish authorities start stepping up?
Well, I guess what it is, is that that pipeline goes under a lot of people's, um, you know, areas.
Lives.
Yeah, exactly.
Lives and countries.
So lots of different countries are getting involved, but, um, yeah, Nord Stream AG are unable to inspect it at the moment, so it seems like we might never know.
Go inside yourself right now and think, what do you think happened with that Nord Stream pipeline?
Do you think it just legitimately blew up?
Do you think the Russians blew it up?
Do you think it was blown up by special forces?
Whose agenda does it advance?
Do you know who I'd like to talk to?
Jocko Willink, Navy SEAL.
Well, let me tell you this by fair, just because this might swing your opinion one way.
It swings about a bit, in my opinion.
A 2019 Pentagon-funded study from the RAND Corporation on how best to exploit Russia's economic, political and military vulnerabilities and anxieties.
Don't know why you'd want to exploit those.
It should be nice to people if they're anxious.
Exactly.
...included a recommendation to reduce Russian natural gas exports and hinder pipeline expansions.
The study noted that a first step would involve stopping Nord Stream 2 and that natural gas from the United States and Australia could provide a substitute.
This was Pentagon funded in 2019.
So again, do you think, who do we think might have been culpable?
I think that's just a coincidence.
One thing I've learned while being alive on this planet is that you can trust big government in collusion with corporations.
They never lie or manipulate and they don't plunder the world in pursuit of resources.
That's just one of the things I've watched unfold over time.
Elon Musk denies he spoke to Putin about Ukraine war.
Tulsi Gabbard quits Democratic Party saying that it's an elitist cabal of warmongers.
Let's have a look at Tulsi Gabbard saying just that.
I can no longer remain in today's Democratic Party that's under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers who are driven by cowardly wokeness.
Oh wow, that's a pretty harsh condemnation.
It makes you wonder, what did she think she was joining when she joined the Democratic Party?
Because they've been doing that for a while, haven't they, the old warmongering?
Yeah, warmongering has always been sort of part and parcel of it, I suppose.
You do need to monger them.
We've got a Chris Hedges who we love, quote from Chris Hedges, one of his articles earlier
in the year, War mongering by the Democrats always comes wrapped in the
mantle of democracy, freedom and human rights, making Democrats the more effective sales
people for war.
Democrats eagerly lined up behind George W. Bush during the calls to invade Afghanistan
and Iraq in the name of humanitarian intervention and liberating the women of Afghanistan who
would spend the next two decades living in terror, burying family members and at times
Even when Democrats, including Barack Obama, criticized the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq while running for office, they steadfastly voted to fund the wars to support our troops once elected.
Now House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says an assault on Ukraine is an assault on democracy.
The same argument Democrats clung to a half century ago while launching and expanding the disastrous war in Vietnam.
So there's a history for it, Ross.
Yeah, there's been a lot of wars.
At this point it's difficult to continue to believe that the Democratic Party is a party of peace.
Even though you know that I'm not like a pro-Republican guy, what I believe in, and what I hope we can continue to discuss in this space, and obviously necessarily spaces beyond it, ...is the possibility of new systems of government where our opinions and views are reflected.
True democracy.
A new democracy.
The ability to control your own life as an individual, to live according to your own values, free from oppression, not living just as some kind of node dominated and controlled by centralized forces that you don't interact with.
But that's, you know, that would be nice.
Good news though...
King Charles III's coronation day is confirmed.
What's amazing, if you're a British person, is I keep talking about like the... because we're all still sort of like, oh wow, the Queen's there.
That's mental.
The Queen was just always there.
She was an omnipresent force.
You could almost believe this person was never going to die.
Now she has died.
People en masse are like, Do you even need a monarchy, really, actually?
Do you need a king and queen?
And they're sort of slowly realising it.
This coronation, it's just going to be a very modest, low-key coronation.
They're trying to make it like it's a coronation of the people.
But it's very difficult to frame a king getting a golden hat put on his head as, like, something that's just, hey, I'm down with the people.
We're doing it down the village hall.
My coronation's on the street.
Doing a little town hall or something like that.
Yeah, this is just a low-key coronation, sort of like if you're getting married for the third or fourth time.
At this point, you know, we're just doing it pretty casual.
Yeah, so that coronation, pretty low-key.
A man took magic mushrooms and then assaulted United Flight Attendants, so maybe not everyone who takes magic mushrooms is immediately introduced to a realm of limitless oneness, where separation becomes revealed to be an illusion.
Where even your own ego starts to appear like a system that you've constructed in order to... just to hold yourself together.
Oh my God, nothing's real but love.
Where's my peanuts?
I said gin and tonic!
Let me out of here!
So it's, uh, yeah, it's not 100% reliable.
There needs to be more context here, though.
Right, first of all, how long did it take?
Like, they don't even include anything about the passage of time here.
Man took magic mushrooms, what, and then immediately assaulted someone, did he?
Was it that immediate?
Right, could have been five years later.
Could have been five years later.
Was the United Flight Attendant on a plane?
Or was it just that that person had a job and it happened to be that?
Unhand me!
I'm a United Flight Attendant!
Get out of my garden, then!
Exactly.
Right, we don't know the context.
We don't know the context.
I've been... Maybe this guy's a hero.
You're right, actually.
He's a psychedelic hero.
I was once ejected from an aeroplane, of course, simply for having my feet up.
And they stopped the plane.
I mean, it was still on the tarmac.
I hadn't taken off yet.
They stopped the plane and said, get off.
And I tried to appeal to the other passengers.
This was before there had been some significant terror attacks that sort of changed the general vibe on planes.
No, I went, look, if we all stand together here and refuse to let me throw... Boo!
Get off!
No, wait, sir, get off!
We'll hear you after!
If we can all just come together as one unit, they can't throw me off, is it?
And they, yeah, they... Yeah.
Had you caused a bit of strife beforehand?
Was that the first thing you did?
Well, actually, no.
Of course, I tried to start so for Charles.
I wasn't a popular passenger by that point anyway, to tell you the truth.
All right, shall we get into this Pfizer story in some detail?
Here is the Dutch politician Rob Roos questioning the EU, the Pfizer official.
What's her name?
Jane Small, I think she's called.
Here she is, just sort of admitting publicly that they never even trialled the vaccine for transmission.
Have a look.
Was the Pfizer Covid vaccine tested on stopping the transmission of the virus before it entered the market?
If not, please say it clearly.
Um, regarding the question around, um, did we know about stopping humanisation before, um, it's entered the market?
No.
Uh, these, uh... Why are you laughing about that?
Embarrassed?
No!
We didn't test it!
You know, we had to really move at the speed of science to really understand what is taking place.
Ooh, the speed of science is so fast!
That's not a phrase, is it?
Let's be honest.
Just invented that.
Lie with science in order to justify some pretty shoddy clinical trials there.
Oh, the speed of science?
What?
Hang on, that isn't a phrase.
No, you can't just say stuff like that.
We must have tested five mice!
Yeah, the speed of science is not objectively something that you can just throw out there.
Now, I think the thing that bothers me most about these revelations is the kind of information we were given at the start of the pandemic era.
A number of people that really went out on a limb.
Let's start with Joe Biden saying, this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
You're sort of invited to forget that these things ever happened.
What they want is for us to just put it behind us, that there was no rhetoric around it, that there was no persuasion, that there were no nudges.
There was no BF Skinner style behavioralist, get it, get it, blame, shame.
All sorts of resources were used.
Here's Joe Biden.
Because what is happening in America right now is a pandemic, a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
Let me say that again.
It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
Misinformation, misinformation now because it plainly, or at least if it does prevent spread, that's just a coincidence because it wasn't tested.
I don't I never pass up the opportunity to see Brian Stelter making
some claims.
Like, here's Brian Stelter talking about vaccine hesitancy, which was a phrase for a while,
because it was assumed that if you were not taking a vaccine, there must be some weird
reason for it.
Here, Brian Stelter unpacks those potential reasons.
I count five Fs that contributed to vaccine rejection.
Facebook?
I've reduced it all to apps!
I've taken a little bit of time, like five fruits a day!
Fox, falsehoods, faith, and fear.
In the words of this new UC research paper... Now, no fucking evidence!
Pharmaceutical miscalculations!
Lack of trials!
You can go through the whole alphabet now!
That's sort of the confidence of it.
You all saw the famous Rachel Maddow clip.
For me, this is bigger than the potential divisions in American politics and American media between apparently liberal people and apparently conservative people.
I don't think we can fetishize that division anymore.
I think we have to look at the evident alliance between corporations, the state, Global bodies that are able to make suggestions at scale that are then disseminated through media.
This is like at the time of this when we had to be very very careful on YouTube for example we got a YouTube strike for like a pretty minor transgression that we sort of self-corrected but you weren't able to talk about this kind of stuff and we were saying then This shouldn't be something about condemnation.
People have got different types of lives.
People have different kinds of considerations.
And one of them was, people might be really concerned about elderly relatives.
People might be getting vaccinated because they're really concerned about elderly relatives, or not getting vaccinated because they've had terrible experiences with authority all their life.
And it was really used as an opportunity to divide people.
And something like COVID passports now, well, what was that about?
What possible benefit is there To a COVID passport.
Why are there travel restrictions placed on unvaccinated people when we cannot demonstrate that the vaccine stops the spread?
Now all of those questions that were emerging at that time have a lot more legitimacy.
Let me know in the comments, let me know in the chat what you think about it.
What do you think about it now, Gareth?
Well, it's tricky.
I mean, you know, when it comes to stopping the spread, I suppose the fact is, I mean, even the Guardian wrote here in October 21, people who are fully vaccinated against COVID yet catch the virus are just as infectious to others in their household as infected, unvaccinated people, research suggests.
So, I guess, you know, we were never at a point where it did actually stop the spread.
There is some evidence as to whether it reduces the spread or not, but I guess that's not the point.
That's not what we were being told and that's not what so many decisions were apparently made on the basis of.
How can you make any argument now that it was anything other than an opportunity to generate profit and an opportunity to introduce regulation?
It's difficult to make any argument beyond that.
Should we just have a little look at Don Lemon as well and his rigid certainty that they were doing the right thing and his attitude towards people that were hesitant or cynical about vaccination?
I think we have to stop coddling people when it comes to this and the vaccine, saying, oh, you can't shame them.
You can't call them stupid.
You can't call them silly.
Yes, they are.
It's just not a helpful attitude to have.
Not on the news either.
Yeah, it's that, the news.
It is the news.
That's the actual news.
Shame people.
You can't use shame as a social tool.
Our next story, shame's good now.
You don't look very nice in that hat!
Your genitals are not the right shape!
That can't be the position that the news takes on these kind of issues.
All right, so we're going to look now in more depth at the relationship between elitism, the introduction of crisis, and the people that suffer the consequences of crises more Partially.
We've got a fantastic story.
Well, it's not necessarily fantastic if you don't want to die in an apocalypse in hideous pain, but billionaire bunkers is big business now.
Just to remind you, before we look at this story about billionaire bunkers and a mental advertisement for them, I'll just remind you that billionaires added five trillion to their fortunes during the pandemic.
The world's richest 10 people saw their collective wealth more than double, shooting up 1.3 Here's the news.
a day and now billionaire bunkers are becoming more popular.
What does it suggest? What's happening? Is it possible that even the
most extreme crisis imaginable, nuclear Armageddon, could potentially be evaded
by the world's most powerful interests? Here's the news. No, here's the
effing news.
On the brink of Armageddon, Bill Gates and his buddies are buying up bunkers.
Do they know something we don't know?
Is this the new pandemic?
Armageddon now!
Now let's get into this story.
Do you think that crises are being used to further impecuniate, if that's a word, poor people and enhance the lives of rich and powerful institutions and groups?
Like the 2008 stock market crash was ultimately beneficial for the financial industry.
The pandemic was ultimately beneficial for the most powerful people in the world.
The richest people in the world Got richer, so for some institutions it wasn't a crisis at all.
Is it conceivable that even nuclear Armageddon could be part of a crisis response solution mentality?
Firstly, let's have a look at some of these bunkers that are available for Bill Gates and his billionaire buddies.
I've got to tell you, they're actually fucking lovely.
No one knows exactly what the future has in store.
Don't they?
But one startup company says avoiding threats from any potential natural disasters, viruses, and wars doesn't have to come at the expense of your comfort.
Yeah, why should I give up my comfort just because there's a virus and a nuclear war?
I should be able to relax!
Another few million people dead.
Seals on the telly.
Oh, repeats again.
Why is no one making any new content?
No.
I suppose what this makes me feel is that there are different strata of society.
That's no surprise, we knew that already.
Even anyone who lives modestly well is still doing better than someone in a homeless shelter or sleeping on the street, so I accept that there are different strata of society.
But at a time when it seems possible that we could radically revise the way we live, look at alternative systems where we empower communities differently, to double down on elitism, to double down on the idea that we should create a class of individuals that are free from the consequences of the way that society is sliding, seems to me to be distasteful.
So, look, you can just literally seal yourself off from the world.
Now, in a way, this is already happening.
I have a much better lifestyle than a lot of people.
which will say each bunker is air and gas tight.
So you can just literally seal yourself off from the world.
Now, in a way, this is already happening.
I have a much better lifestyle than a lot of people.
I recognize that.
But the idea that our plan for the future ought to be to create citadels for the super rich
at a point in history where really what's required is a new model altogether is almost beyond parody
and is certainly grotesque.
Allowing those inside to be completely cut off from the atmosphere outside for up to a month.
What are you gonna do, though, after a month?
Oh, hello, everybody!
Listen, does anybody know where I can get some rainwater?
Hey, what are you doing with that bone sword?
The shelters are also armed with the technology to make their own water, air, and energy, while coming with the chicest amenities.
In a way, that's already happening.
If you think, during the pandemic, I think one of the things that many people felt is that ordinary people were being forced to live by a lot of restrictive regulations.
You can't leave your house, you must wear a mask, you must take certain medications.
And I think there was a strong sense that that wasn't affecting everybody in the same way, that some people were travelling around privately, still going to gatherings.
I mean, this isn't hypothetical.
We know in our country, the UK, Prime Minister and high up politicians were literally having parties.
We know that in your country, America, the California governor held events.
I'm saying that the pandemic was clearly a divisive time that negatively impacted certain sectors of society more than others.
Let me know if you agree with that in the comments.
Let me know if you agree in the chat.
Whatever is happening in the world outside, you can rest easy.
What type of moral center is implied by the statement, no matter what's going on in the world outside, you can rest easy?
Oh, look at that!
Another child dying of radiation sickness.
The gardener doesn't look well.
Oh, look at that!
Algeria just sunk into the sea.
Like, you can't rest easy.
What kind of person are you?
If you can tolerate and cope with Armageddon just because you've got a decent wine cellar, And live fully in times of tranquility and in times of unrest.
He's actually literally having a cigar in there.
Ah, fuck him.
Entertain friends and enjoy private time with your family.
Who are these friends you're entertaining?
They're all dead!
Unless all your friends are super.
Oh, look, the Joneses are coming by.
Well, they seem to have a weird look on their faces, though, as they stagger blindly towards the front door, screaming the word brains.
Brains!
Again and again.
And that's for private time with your family.
That's all you've got now.
You're 24-7 in your luxury prison staring at your family who you hate because they've got no morals.
Beautifully appointed and entirely bespoke.
What this feels like to me is that the most powerful interests in the world are willing to crash the planet knowing they would survive it.
And if you think that sounds crazy, look at what they did to the economy.
They crashed it knowing that they would be okay.
Look at what happened in the pandemic.
They locked down a whole planet knowing they would be okay.
I'm not suggesting the lockdown wasn't a necessary measure or that the vaccines weren't ultimately helpful.
I'm just suggesting that this is a A stratified society where people making the decisions do not suffer the consequences of the decisions that they're making.
And now it's taken to a ridiculous extreme.
See that zombie hellscape, son?
That used to be Madrid.
Or just savour having a safe place to reflect.
What are you gonna reflect on?
Ah, well that went well for us.
Daddy, was that the right thing to let everyone else die?
Let me reflect on that.
It was, yeah.
These priceless works of art that they've accumulated.
Even the value of art is contextual.
It's like, these are what human beings have achieved.
You can't, like, look at a Matisse or a Picasso knowing that all of the values that art is funded upon are a connection to something sublime and divine.
They're all gone now!
That's all gone!
It's just you!
In your mansion!
With essentially nothing!
Your private gallery keeps your collections in perfect condition.
Freedom is the possession of those with courage to defend it.
I don't think what Pericles meant by that is why don't we all bunker down and fuck society.
I don't think classical Greece was founded on every man for himself.
Let's hunker down, bunker down, let's create foundations that fund media and pharmaceutical companies and non-democratic global bodies that infiltrate and interrupt the democratic process.
Democracy, I think, was quite important to the Greeks.
Wondering if an opedem is in reach for you?
Not really, because they're gonna cost fucking fortune, aren't they?
Well, officials say if you have a net worth of more than 100 million dollars... Wait, is that sarcastic news?
Is that what sarcastic news is?
Because look, here's what happened.
Billionaires added five trillion to their fortunes during the pandemic.
That happened.
The world's richest 10 men saw their collective wealth more than double, shooting up by 1.3 billion a day.
The ranks of the global ultra high net worth individuals swelled by 46,000 last year to a record 218,000 as the world's richest people benefited from almost an explosion of wealth during the recovery from the pandemic.
It makes me wonder if events are being constructed in order to facilitate the capture of wealth.
Whether that's something like a foreign war, That allows taxes of ordinary people to ultimately end up in the hands of private military contractors.
That's generally what happens.
Or a pandemic that enhances the wealth of big tech and big pharma.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
I'm not saying that they planned these kind of things.
Let me know in the comments.
Let me know in the chat.
I'm not saying that.
But if a system benefits people up to the point where they can survive a nuclear apocalypse And it ultimately doesn't make any difference because they're at the precipice of an AI revolution where you don't need what would be referred to as a working class anymore, then what's the reason to not have a nuclear war?
Usually when we ponder this apocalyptic breakdown, we evolve Sky in it, don't we?
The robots realised they didn't need people no more and they might as well have a nuclear war.
Well now it's like the billionaires have realised they don't need people anymore and they might as well have a nuclear war.
Unseen and untouched.
To protect the people we love and the objects we cherish is the most powerful human instinct.
It's not, is it?
The most powerful human instinct is meant to be to survive and love and I suppose that's a version of survival but sprinkling little bits of bunker-grown basil on your sunny-side up eggs while the rest of society is dying doesn't It doesn't seem like the optimum outcome for human life, does it?
Mommy?
Daddy?
Why's all my friends dead?
Well, we sent you to a state-funded school because we wanted you to occasionally meet Mexican people so that you could be woke.
But when it came to the crunch, goodbye!
Turns out we got a robot to make our eggs now.
And in a sense, their economic model can withstand that also.
So it's, in a way, a real-life metaphor for what we're already experiencing.
There is a culture that is behind a wall.
And most of us are kind of trained to believe that that's normal.
and acceptable somehow, but it isn't.
It's such a peculiar perversion of what we're evolved to live like.
It amounts to an abomination.
So their bomb shelters are an abomination.
And the idea that this is in any way normal or acceptable or could be on the news without provoking a revolution
is extraordinary.
This is security without sacrifice.
Comfort without compromise.
Compromise and sacrifice are exactly the values that we need to get in touch with.
We have to realize that you can't achieve anything without sacrifice.
If you're not willing to sacrifice, you don't have any principles.
That's what virtue signaling is.
It's principles without sacrifice.
I believe in this.
Are you willing to give up something for it?
No.
Sacrifice is a necessity.
Until you're willing to sacrifice, you don't have principles.
It's one of the questions I level at myself most.
How much are you willing to sacrifice?
What are you willing to give up?
And it actually tears me apart a little bit, how addicted to comfort I am.
But compromise and sacrifice are what we need to learn, not what we need to negate.
It's their negation that has led us to this peripheral insanity, to this precipice of Armageddon.
Their name of their company, Up-A-Dum, sounds like an idiot saying, sorry I blew up the world.
Up-A-Dum, Up-A-Dum, I blew up your planet.
Up-A-Dum, it's okay, because we can grow those plants under the ground now.
Up-A-Dum, it's okay, I scrapped a Picasso from the ashes.
And can shell out at least 10 million for a bunker.
Why are the media telling this like it's a normal story about, look at this crazy little thing, rather than, okay, here's clear evidence that society is falling apart and the most powerful people in the world don't give a fuck about you.
Because all the people you see on the news, whether it's from an influential perspective or a political perspective or a corporate perspective, They're the sort of people that will be in these bunkers.
I mean, I'm a normal human.
I'm a person.
I think, oh shit, you kind of would, wouldn't you?
That's not the instinct or aspect of our nature we should be cultivating.
The news should be saying, listen, we're in real trouble now.
Those powerful people in the world are beginning to prepare for the day when viruses and ballistic missiles and environmental threat destroy the planet.
So, there's probably something in it.
So, is this an amusing news story, or is this a harrowing window into where we are heading?
If they're preparing, we should be preparing, but in an entirely different way.
But that's just what I think.
Why don't you let me know what you think in the chat, in the comments, right now.
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The point I want to pick up on is the point about sacrifice and compromise.
Like, those are sort of vital values.
I find them hard, don't you?
You find it hard?
Sacrifice, compromise.
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I think you need to hear or be able to see how passionate you are in that room.
You're very passionate, don't you?
I was just...
Looking at you then, through my telly.
Yeah.
You seem ever so passionate in that room.
I really care!
Is that the passion room?
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That's where I go there to really express myself and if ever you hear sort of any unusual moans, groans, tapping sounds, that's the sound of me generating passion and you're not going to come in there.
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Um, there's some, uh, people here talking about our, uh, bunker news item there, Wasabi Raptor.
Life inside bunkers must be very interesting though.
I don't know, they will be.
I think it'll be crushing.
I- I get sort of bored on holidays, so I don't think I'd do very well In a bunker.
And also, Brad Evans, who's coming on later, the philosopher and professor of violence, he's going to talk to us a bit.
And I think he'll touch upon the idea that bunker was the term used by the Germans.
It was Hitler's phrase, bunker.
And, you know, I don't know if you're aware of where Hitler died.
He was in a bunker.
That's where it all ended up for Hitler.
Didn't end well, did it?
Not for Hitler!
And many others suffered as a result of his schemes and practices, I'd call them.
1800s kind of guy.
Bunkers would be no good.
One very.
Imagine that those at the top encouraged buttons to be pressed, then run away to their bunkers, leaving us all to perish.
I, Lou T. I weld bunkers doors shut and barbecue on air vents.
That's an interesting scheme you've got there.
A little bit of the old cannibalism going on.
And why the hell not?
They look nice though, don't they?
The bunkers.
Well, some of those priceless works of art were appealing, but the context of art is that they are tokens of human excellence.
So what is the value of art once humanity has been annihilated?
I was thinking of something like Guernica, by Picasso, a painting that demonstrates the horror of war.
How would you look at that in a post-apocalyptic world?
And what is its value now?
Value is its specialness.
It's as if something special has been captured and held.
So how can you be in your underground art gallery marvelling over Guernica when the world has been torn apart?
Also, the billionaires, they would have had staff, wouldn't they?
They're not going to do it all themselves.
Like Bill Gates, apparently he's rumoured to have lots of these in all his properties.
Is he?
That's the rumour, that he's got one of these in all his properties.
But there's no way Bill Gates is, like, sprinkling that, like, oregano over his salad, is there?
He's not doing that himself.
He won't be there doing his own eggs with a bit of basil off the windowsill.
No chance.
No.
So it's a real treat, isn't it?
If you buy them herbs, you think, yeah, I've really... That's much better pasta.
Yeah.
I've just made there.
Look at that.
That's something out of... But then I was thinking, what if those staff revolt against the billionaires?
They will.
They'll probably outnumber them.
Of course they do.
And then...
Douglas Rushkoff in the interview says that they've got Navy SEALs protecting them and like they've inserted, they've working out ways to insert chips in them because like the Navy SEAL, hang on a fucking minute!
This could be my bunker!
Now you just wait a second now!
Like they're ready with something to blow up an archery in the Navy SEAL.
Wow.
Yeah, that's what's going down.
I reckon we should get... I wanna get Jocko Willink on this show and cuddle him so hard.
No, like, Jocko Willink, former Navy SEAL... Whenever you say that, it sounds like you wanna, like, set up a little fight.
I wanna get Jocko Willink and Bill Gates and let him go for it!
Because I like Jocko Willink, because he's got, like, such a squ... There's no way, when you're looking at Jocko Willink, that you could ever make the mistake of, I think I could have him in a fight.
Like, you could never make that mistake.
He looks like... Like, he looks like he could use his, sort of, chin to smash your face in.
Right.
Like he could hurt your elbow with his chin.
You know?
That's what I was thinking when I was interviewing him before.
Let's get Jocko Willink on.
Firstly, I'll ask him about would the Navy Seals have the capacity to sabotage that Nord Stream pipeline and do you think it will be in line with American policy?
The sort of thing he might not want to say, maybe.
I don't know.
I don't know how it works.
And then I'll say, if me and you were to smash my elbow on your chin, do you think my elbow would start hurting?
That's question two, is it?
Yeah that's too radical.
I think maybe leave it question four or five I would go if I were you.
Yeah you're right there needs to be some sort of ebb and flow before like otherwise hmm I'm assessing you you're an idiot.
Yeah like you're right I'll create a natural narrative.
Oh there he is.
If you have a look at Jocko Willink you can see what what my fascination is based on that sort of like there's some pretty serious machismo coming out of the man he's also like a BJJ black belt and everything.
Yeah let's get on the show because I'd like to talk to you about the old Nord Stream Pipeline.
I'm thinking of some very silly innuendo right now around pipelines, which I don't know what I'm not going to do.
It's sort of in case Jocko Willink eventually learns of it.
I don't want him to have that reference of some dumb innuendo and stuff.
Mate, did you want to say anything else about these bunkers before we show my interview with Douglas Rushkoff?
I was looking into experiments that the US government did in the 60s.
There's a piece in the Guardian.
During the early days of the Cold War, governments, the military and universities conducted numerous experiments to see how long people could withstand being trapped underground together.
In total, in the early 60s, about 7,000 people volunteered to be locked in spaces with groups ranging from the size of a family to more than 1,000 people as part of a US government's attempt to assess the psychological impact.
I like the idea that you're trapped underground to see how long you can withstand it.
That was a glorious day, glorious time for behaviouralism, all of that meal groom experience.
Why don't you just push that button?
Oh but they're crying!
Give it a little push!
And then like the experience where they dress up as prison officers and in about a day half the students are like, I hate those fucking screws man!
I don't trust them!
That's for you to do maths class with him!
Like, people, like, immediately are easily influenced.
But when I used to do movies, like, the people that were dressed up as police, I used to think, hmm... Well, better watch what I say around him.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's... That's, I suppose, the point of a uniform and these kind of signifiers.
We forget that we are dominated by our unconscious mind.
Do your kids wear uniforms at school?
No, my kids go to one of them schools where they can basically do what they want, and like I'm even, like you know those kids, there's special schools, like where they can smoke and that.
They can do that if they want.
Yeah, if they want them to, like if they go, I believe I should be able to smoke!
Well, that's their right to be able to smoke if they want.
And like, if they tell the teacher to fuck off and stuff.
But like, I don't encourage that.
But what I've always told my children is never trust authority and always confront authority and always assume that a rule is a bad rule until you've seen that it's not.
I can't imagine you were one for uniforms at school, yeah?
I always made mine a little shorter.
I turned my school shirt into a crop top.
A little bit of midriff.
I androgynised it a little bit.
Listen, we've looked at billionaire bunkers and I would say...
Coruscating detail.
We've really gotten into the meaning of it, I'd say.
Douglas Rushkoff wrote a book called Survival of the Richest, how the elite plan to survive the apocalypse.
I spoke to him a little bit earlier.
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Just have a look at this bit.
And also remember to smash that rumble button, innit?
With your chin, maybe.
Use your chin and your elbow and see if you're closer to Jocko Willink or me on that sort of scale of machismo.
Have a look at this chat.
The odd thing is it teaches us that, I think, of the ultimate futility of trying to live a life where you want to build a car that can escape from its own exhaust.
You know, it's what the tech bro billionaires who are trying to build bunkers are really using what I started to call the insulation equation.
They want to know how much money and technology do I need to insulate myself from the reality I'm creating by using Money and technology in this way.
And the fact is, you never win.
It's like escaping from karma.
So the real lesson is that, oh, instead of building a civilization or an empire in order to escape from the reality of nature and people and women and all the stuff they're afraid of, learn to join the others and have a much better time at it.
Billionaires added five trillion to their collective fortunes during the pandemic.
So the reality is that there is now a separate reality, a billionaire class.
Already, while their bunkers may not be subterranean, the bunker mentality already exists.
I wonder.
Yeah.
It already existed, though.
I mean, once you have whatever, a billion dollars, it's a kind of a almost an economic obesity, right?
You've now surrounded yourself with all of this money.
But what does the money actually do?
It's storage.
It's batteries.
They actually don't have a way.
There is no way for them to spend it.
I mean, even even Jeff Bezos, you know, Bezos going up in Blue Origin and the ultimate example of white flight.
You know, that's still not a reasonable escape strategy from any kind of disaster that would befall the planet.
I, myself, have always been driven by a kind of scarcity model and a kind of fear mentality.
But what I had to do is, right, if I can just do these things, I'll be alright!
And I suppose, though, I suppose the difference is, is whether someone that's operating at my level, is that the, of course, it's contributing to a collective impact in a number of ways, environmentally, ideologically, politically, etc.
But actually, if you're Jeff Bezos, or the people that are in the territory that they can actually afford these bunkers, it's almost making a verifiable, measurable impact.
As you say, they're like, as a Uroboros component, they're devouring their own tail as they enter the bunker.
Yeah, that really is interesting.
It's like they're playing a mind game, but they have enough money for the mind game to actually seem like it's working, right?
They could, in some ways, the evidence of climate change, or economic unrest, or electromagnetic pulse, or a nuclear war, those kinds of disasters help them justify their privatization of the world.
Hoag670 goes, how will Amazon delivery find your bunker?
Yeah.
How will your drone deliver your stuff?
Pdon, just as border walls are simultaneously imprisoning citizens, these bunkers are just the rich digging their own graves.
The brilliant British writer Robert McFarlane says that we only put things under the ground that we deeply cherish or that we're so ashamed of that we want to hide forever, like imagine a dead body.
Or nuclear waste, but then also the sort of tombs of the revered buried with jewels and even their beloved pets and this sort of bunker idea.
Do you know what I see it at from a psychological perspective?
It's like an unwillingness to confront reality.
It's like literally burying your head in the sand.
If the system that you are a dominant contributor to is causing the destruction of the planet, Isn't it time now to look at how you could participate in new systems rather than, right, so I keep destroying it but then I can go over there and it's so mental.
I used to think a lot when I'd see people sleeping rough, you know, homeless people, street sleepers, whatever, rough sleepers, whatever you want to call them, that The degree of comfort that I had then, like living in an apartment or whatever, was like, I'm able to remove myself from the reality of suffering.
But like, once you are homeless, then suffering is on you.
And I suppose that material wealth is about moving away reality to the point where you don't have to, you're not confronted with it at all.
It's just away from you.
You're insulated.
And that's what Douglas was talking about a lot.
They're trying a bunch of things, aren't they?
The mega rich, the billionaires.
Because if it's not bunkering down into the ground, They're going into space, and if it's not that, then it's trying all kinds of techniques to live forever.
So you know, you've got like these billionaires who are experimenting with using young people's blood and things like that.
They are trying literally everything they can to live forever.
And so many things are enshrined in myth, like vampirism, like the idea of vampires exists mythically perhaps.
Perhaps to sort of safeguard against the idea that, oh, well, we can suck the lifeblood out of people that that's the only resource they have left.
And even moving closer to the sun is mythically explored and understood.
Elsewhere in the conversation, Douglas was saying about like a kind of disembodiment.
And we're being invited now to inhabit the metaverse.
We saw an amazing video of like Walmart now who are entering the healthcare space and now have a
sort of a supermarket where you can shop online. But it's really horrible in their
supermarket. You walk around with like the shop assistant don't have no legs and that and she's
sort of floating around like Casper the friendly shop assistant. Would you like
more milk?
I noticed from your house you're out of wine.
Can I recommend a bottle?
And then your own sort of little Mickey Mouse robot hands reach and grab a carton of milk and sling it like an idiot into a trolley.
What about actual reality?
Why are we sort of synthesizing what is deeply already known?
That there is a connection between us.
The reason that I can't get drawn too much into hateful rhetoric, even though I obviously as a human being experience hate and judgment and all those kind of things, just realize that cannot be the solution.
This cannot be about finding a group of people that don't have power and condemning them.
It can't be that.
It must be about recognizing in myself Where I am contributing to and participating in systems of oppression.
Where can I be more beautiful?
Where can I be more helpful?
And it's not very easy to do that.
No.
Do you know what would really make it easier?
A bit of fucking French horn!
A rousing bit of brass!
I've got to save the world now, have I?
I know what it is.
You don't feel like in the right sort of mood.
I don't play an instrument, but I can imagine if you play like a brass thing, you can't half-arse it.
It's not like strumming a guitar, is it?
You can sort of be all sorrowful and be a bit like Neil Young or something.
With brass, you've got to go...
The energy level is like a controlled fart, isn't it?
Yeah, it is.
It's like using your whole body in that.
It is exactly that, yeah.
And you sort of think, I can't do it.
I feel a bit sad.
I feel like I've got to talk about Facebook and things like that and Tulsi Gabbard.
It's not the mood isn't right.
What is the right sort of mood?
It's more like what you did.
Yeah, exactly.
I was watching the people from the road club doing their rowing exercises and I thought I will never
know that world.
I could see them they were brightly lit on rowing machines with their tops off
and for them something... Hang on a minute. First of all you said... Why do you need context?
You said the row club like everyone knows what you're talking about to start with. You know the row club.
And then you talking about men with their tops off. What's going on? God all right.
I was walking down the river with my wife, just a couple of normal people living normal lives, and then I could see the road club, because it's by a river, and it's illuminated up by a bridge.
And we could see them in there, and every so often you'd hear them sort of shout like people exercising do.
Come on, baby!
Or something like that, you know, to get it more... That's it.
And like, they had their tops off, and I was thinking, that to them, that's just their normal life.
Come on, we know you were thinking four.
It was quite far away, but I knew it would be four.
Because there's a level of beauty, where even if you're a person of sort of declared heterosexual, such as myself, there's a level of sort of beauty where you think, well I don't really care what you are, I just like the shapes, let me poke that!
Right?
And like, them men, I think, were that.
Because they had their tops off, and they were doing the rowing.
Anyway, look, that's not my point.
My point is, they occupy a world that I will never know.
I will never kno- Unless I join the road club.
Well yeah, I mean that is, it seems like you live near it.
They've invited me to come in!
I just stood there sort of weeping.
I will never know the road club!
You just took your top off anyway.
I stood there like that, a single tear, a flaccid tear.
I'm just saying that there are all sorts of avenues in reality to occupy did you not think when you was a kid that you'd like to be in a computer game where you could sort of do anything where it wasn't even restricted by the agenda of the game that you could just wander around and be in reality and experience it then you think this is reality like if you ever put a virtual reality helmet on you start to realize actually I I'm in a virtual reality helmet.
My body is a virtual reality helmet.
There's more to be experienced than the limited senses will allow us.
Not that the senses aren't wondrous, but it's a curated reality we live within.
So if within that curated reality you live within a subset of moral values, particularly if they're sort of persecutory, if they include self-hatred or hatred of others, we have to transcend them.
This is the spiritual message.
To get beyond what is material.
To get beyond what is rational.
To access There's something within yourself that is powerful enough to help you to overcome these powerful systems.
You're not going to do it by Democrat, Republican or, in our country, Conservative Labour or any kind of traditional progressivism.
Thesis, antithesis, synthesis.
There needs to be a deep unity and I think it can only come from Going to a road club, really.
Joining right in.
And offering some of those lads a bloody good massage.
Because they must be exhausted.
Their traps must be knackered, Gary.
Sorry?
Their traps!
Oh, right, okay.
Why, what did you think?
I don't know, I just wondered.
I thought it might be a euphemism.
That's a unique new term that I've come up with.
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Welcome, Brad.
Thanks for joining us.
Always a pleasure, mate.
Thank you, mate.
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Brad!
We've been talking about bunkers and how it's a sort of physicalisation of several things.
Obviously a social bifurcation, the separation of an elite class, well someone in the chat said you shouldn't call them an elite class because they're parasites on ordinary working folk.
It obviously demonstrates that economic inequality and I was thinking before that the submergence in the ground sort of demonstrates something.
What else can we draw from this phenomena of the bunker?
Yeah, I think historically a bunker, we can think of course, is very much linked to narratives of security.
I know you mentioned about Hitler.
You know, the idea with Hitler... You told me earlier.
I credited you.
So, you know, when Hitler kind of accelerates the bunkerization of Europe in World War II, when he builds 25,000 bunkers, which kind of was called the Atlantic Wall, this gives rise to an idea of what's called Fortress Europe, where we kind of protect this kind of Terrain.
Now, the question of the bunker symbolically is, what's being protected?
What's being preserved?
What rights, what values, what ideas are being preserved?
And there's an interesting piece by Paul Virilio.
He wrote a brilliant book called Bunker Archaeology.
And he says, you know, bunkers are built in response to a menacing outside, but they're always inhabited by madness and monsters.
And I think it's a really interesting way of thinking about, you know, the madness of creating something.
Because if you think about it, it's inherently nihilistic.
It's about people who've really given up on the world, given up that we can resolve our problems.
Oh, Brad, what you're telling me suggests that even the existence of these bunkers is an indication that they have declared that the world will soon become an unlivable space.
Well, I think it's interesting if you look at who's planned to be inhabiting these bunkers.
And if we talk about the elite class, it's largely the technocratic class.
And we're living in an age of a technocracy today.
And that technocracy, on the one hand, is encouraging us all to live this metaverse lifestyle.
And they are the ones who will kind of not only live in the kind of, you know, the real world, but also they're the ones who'll survive this real world.
What was also striking, I saw the video that you showed, is what is actually represented in terms of what's kept, you know, we know the great works of art, but what was striking was there's no animals in this.
Yeah.
And actually, we need the banana plant, right?
There's one token banana plant.
And obviously, we say there's, you know, the servants.
Perhaps we won't need the servants, because AI will do all that kind of stuff, you know?
And I think there's... It's actually revealing about the kind of future we're imagining.
And if this is left as the only imagination left to us, you know...
When Verilion says madness and monsters, Brad, do you think that that's sort of more relevant when you consider the image of mad Hitler in a bunker with his Reich crumbled around him?
Or do you think that this monster and madness model can be applied to the kind of bunkers that we're discussing today?
What is the monster and madness?
I think the madness is the talk of annihilation.
The monster is basically the kind of world that we will leave after it.
It'll be a monstrous world.
How could you survive that?
I mean, intellectually, psychologically, if you were to inhabit this bunker, aside from the fact, you know, whatever would be the very first bunker divorce or the very first bunker murder.
I've really gone off you since we've been in this bunker!
But I think in terms of, you know, the monstrous is really the world which follows.
And I think the madness is the point that leads us to the brink of annihilation.
The monstrous is not an individual.
The madness is not an individual.
It's the logic of power which basically says, you know what, it's okay to bring us to the point of annihilation.
And I think that's the cusp that we're at today.
And I think that's quite terrifying if you think about it in those terms.
Yeah, it is terrifying.
And even the commodification of the apocalypse, the idea that this can be survived, somewhere in that commercial for Oppidum, it listed the potential reasons why you might want a bunker.
It said something like, native unrest, and pandemics, and then I think it sort of said, like, war.
The idea that that is, that those crises, that you wouldn't spend your energy and your resources in creating a planet that meaningfully addresses those crises rather than, well, like you said, it's nihilistic because it accepts the inevitability of that condition and then says, but we'll be alright!
Because we're going to be down here with a work of art and no pets.
Well, I think it's also interesting, you know, there's another great theorist on the apocalypse, a guy called Jacob Taubes said, at least the old apocalyptic narratives had an idea of a better world to come.
This is no better world to come.
You know, it's the only thing we can do is just commodify the apocalypse and commodify it in a way which becomes, as I say, ultimately nihilistic.
That's what happens if you try to materialise everything.
Like, I read an analysis of Christ once, saying that Christ was part of a tradition of apocalyptic preachers.
When you look at it historically, where he was not the only evangelist at that time, saying, you best get your shit together, because in the hereafter, it's gonna go down!
Is what Jesus was saying.
Paraphrasing, for the kids.
And like, obviously in that vision, We're moving towards a kind of moral singularity.
We're moving to a place of true unity, a place of reckoning, where we're forced to confront that our value systems have been irrelevant, wayward, sinful, broken.
But it's almost like we're trying to hedge the possibility of necessary morality.
Yeah, but I think obviously there's... I agree with you completely and also... Because I actually hit a pulpit there because I'm so serious.
But also there's that point about, you know, There's no philosophy without death, right?
Philosophy is learning how to die.
And what these bunkers seem to represent also is this inability to recognize the question of death in terms of, you know, what does the broad annihilation of the planet except for the top 2% actually mean, philosophically, in terms of what it means for humanity?
You talked about the artwork, you know.
What's the point of the artwork if it's not witnessed by the human?
Witnessed by humanity in a shared collaborative experience.
You know, I don't want to just sat there by myself looking at Guernica all day.
I'll go absolutely insane.
That will be the madness as well, so.
I've got Rodan's thinker over there.
I've been masturbating.
It's not that my wife's gone.
She said she preferred the ashes.
Gareth said that the super-rich have kind of fetishized.
You know, you said like there's the vampire thing, the bunker thing, the space thing.
Yeah, they're either going to space or burrowing into the ground or injecting themselves with the blood of young people and all sorts of other methods to try and sustain their lives on this planet as it is at the moment.
But they're trying to escape what we currently inhabit.
Yeah, and escaping what it means to be human, right?
To be human means to live amongst a messy collective of millions.
And this is kind of, you know, you say that kind of shift to transhumanism, to put yourself into a computer consciousness or to kind of evacuate yourself into this.
And maybe the pandemic represents a step in this, you know, the normalisation of bunker mentalities, getting us all to buy into the idea that it's OK to be in permanent lockdown.
And then, of course, you might die and then as a few will survive.
Because if you're saying, and you did say Brad because I heard you, that like without death there is no philosophy, if what the current modality, or the emergent modality, is the denial of death through wealth and affluence, whether it's through this sort of modern vampirism, space flight and sort of physical transcendence, or the sort of physical burying their head in the sand, That they're trying to extract this fundamental tool that we've always had, that has been foundational for civilization.
Even if you think of... I wonder if you contemplate a philosophy that precedes civilization, folk philosophy, the philosophy that would accompany totemism.
This is a kind of philosophy, isn't it?
Or do you think it requires a degree of abstraction, that it only becomes philosophy once it's applied to the modes of civilization?
Is it a type of philosophy to revere the animals that you hunt or the plants that you cultivate?
Is that a philosophy of a type?
The most beautiful philosophy we know is the ancestral.
It connects, far predates European history and far predates, you know, we think of the artwork, the poetry, the narrative, the history, the unwritten stories which kind of accompany the history of the human condition.
The other side of that, of course we think of the ancestral as kind of pre-civilization, all this kind of ideas.
The other side of that is the apocalyptic where, you know, I'm reminded of Einstein's quote when he says, I don't know what the third world war will look like, I know the fourth world war will be fought with sticks and stones.
Yeah.
And he's talking about this kind of utter devastation, which is the complete antithesis of the ancestral.
The idea that actually there is a deeper connection that humans can have, which would always philosophical, even before philosophy is kind of invented by Europe.
That's cool.
Einstein there, just trying to cheat his way out of properly describing the world war we're most interested in hearing explained.
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We're going to be here for a little while longer, but only for those of you that are members of our Stay Free AF community.
Hey, we're going to look into getting Rumble to provide closed captions.
That seems like a Bloody good idea.
So today we were, of course, primarily interested in discussing and analyzing the revelations that Pfizer never even bothered to trial that drug when it comes to transmission.
They couldn't be bothered.
They didn't have the time.
We're going to look at that in more depth tomorrow.
So make sure that you join us live tomorrow.
Our guest will be Dr. Asim Malhotra.
He's a cardiologist who actually thinks that the vaccination should be halted, gal.
Get that down your anti-conspiracy theorist throat.
And he's a proper doctor as well.
Not just a doctor of something where you can't mend a broken arm.
Real doctoring.
Doctoring like Mama used to make.
Also, on Friday we're talking about Trump and fascism.
Aaron Maté will be on the show.
Stay with us.
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And my dad was going to me, why can't I watch it on my smart TV?
I can only watch it on my phone.
Dad, I'm looking into it.
I'm trying to work out for you how you can watch it on your smart TV.
Just watch it on your bloody phone.
What's the problem?
You don't need it widescreen, do you?
It's not the Matrix.
Or is it the Matrix?
Is it?
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