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Sept. 30, 2022 - Stay Free - Russel Brand
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Stay Free with Russell Brand #003 - Is The System Deliberately Making You Poorer?
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Let's have a look at some of your comments.
Doctor Who vibe.
Hello from the Canary Islands, says Castanaccio.
Top country girl, he's a left winger that's waking up.
Aha!
It's good that we're talking about that because we're talking about the old political factions and fissures and about emergent new populism, new ideals that help us to unite against the establishment.
Whatever we may have previously believed ourselves to be, for surely all of us want new political movements that empower ordinary people to run our own lives as individuals and to run our own communities.
Today's question is, is the system deliberately making you poorer?
Or is it sort of doing it by happenstance, by accident?
Nonetheless, however it's happening, Ordinary people are getting poorer the world over.
There's a cost of living crisis.
The rich are getting richer.
Are things improving?
Let us know in the chat.
Let us know in the comments.
Do you think you have the leaders in place to steer you out of crisis?
Whether that's dear old beloved Joe Biden over there in America or...
There he is, God bless him.
Or, whoever it is, who's in charge of our country now?
Liz Truss.
Truss, that's it.
She's running our country.
We've got a fantastic show for you today.
We're gonna be, well as well as addressing that question, and talking about the removal of the banker bonus caps in this country.
We're gonna be talking about congressional politics over there in America.
What do we talk about in that video again, Gal?
Well, we're talking about the revolving door and the increasingly, uh, the way it's increasingly just openly talked about and laughed about in, uh, in Senates.
In hearings, actually.
In hearings to, uh, regulate the banking industry.
That's because the ninth richest congressperson had a right guffaw about one of his co-workers
going to work for a leading American bank.
Now what do you think these relationships mean when it comes to governance?
How do you think you can be fairly governed when those kind of relationships and indeed
the revolving door between Washington and Wall Street continues to spin at an alarming
rate?
In the studio with us today we've got Mick Lynch who's the leader of the RMT, that's
the Rail Maritime and Transport Workers Union and we're going to be talking about action
that's being taken tomorrow in this country and we're going to be talking about the significance
of trade union movements all over the world, for example like Amazon workers and popular
uprisings all over the country, nation, world.
The whole planet is, there's uprisings everywhere you look and they're whether it's in Sri Lanka,
Dutch farmers, rail strikes in this country and indeed if you like are a person that's
Say anti-trade unions and anti-the left broadly.
What is going to be required for ordinary people to come together and challenge established power?
How do you see it happen?
Do you think that the centre-left political movements that are currently in power across the world are going to do anything about it?
Do you think conservative politicians?
Do you think Republican politicians?
Who do you think is going to do something to help ordinary people?
This guy?
But first of all, let's do a bit of what I call normal news.
Here is some normal news for you so you know what's going on in the planet in case you sort of miss out on mainstream media.
I let you know what's going on, you know, just to keep you abreast of these matters.
Putin plans to formally annex four regions from Ukraine.
Here he is, Putin, practicing a new handshake.
There he is.
Make up, make up, never, never break up if you do.
I suspect a new piece can emerge just on the basis of that handshake alone.
There's going to be new penny pieces with a new king's head on it.
King Charles coins.
Shall we have a look at them?
Do you think that's better?
Do you prefer that to the old one?
I think it's a bit strange that it doesn't wear a crown, because it could be any old fella.
You're right about that.
The crown is the significant feature of a monarch.
It looks like he's just an old man looking out a window.
Old man peers out of window on a coin.
After slamming Florida, Hurricane Ian barrels towards South Carolina.
But don't worry, because Joe Biden is present.
Where is he?
At the Federal Emergency, what is it called?
Federal Emergency Management Agency.
Now, Joe Biden's had a lot of trouble, you know this, giving speeches at podiums on stages.
You know he gets a little bit bewildered.
But now there have been measures taken to ensure that he knows his way onto a stage, and he knows his way off a stage.
Let's have a look at him at the theme of speech he was giving.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you.
No!
She actually made a physical lunge for him there, didn't she, to restrain him.
Mr. President?
No!
But he won't learn if people... Look at this, he's actually given a... He wanders off into a vestibule and is applauded.
How's he ever gonna learn if you applaud him?
Thank you.
APPLAUSE So she's gonna get him, look.
Bye.
Also, in normal news... Queen Elizabeth II, cause of death has been revealed.
She was old.
Yeah.
That was it, wasn't it?
Yeah.
She simply died of having... She'd been here long enough.
It's time to die.
Old age.
That's the official reason.
I think there's probably more detail.
If you're going to go to the trouble of probably quite an expensive coroner... Right.
Don't you need... I'd be annoyed if it just came back with old age, but give me some exact details.
We've done everything we could.
We've examined her from top to toe.
Elderly?
That was the issue.
Top Apple exec is leaving the company after a vulgar remark on TikTok.
This is just someone who's a part of their acquisitions team, I think, wasn't he?
He's Apple's vice president of procurement.
And actually, I thought you'd be interested in this.
His comments are similar to the line in the 1981 movie Arthur, where billionaire main character Arthur Bach, is it, Ross?
You'd know.
I don't know, because sometimes, there was a time where I pretended to be Arthur for a fee, and some say it was the best rendering of Arthur that ever happened.
The best high-pitched rendering.
High-pitched rendering, wasn't it?
I looked at it lately, and what it was, I thought, there's a bit at the beginning of the film where I dress up as Batman, so I thought I'd show my kids, because they like Batman.
I showed her, my older kid, goes, yeah, look at this.
Like, I thought maybe she'd think it was Batman, but no, she weren't happy.
She switched off.
Like, I don't like it!
In a rather more baritone voice than I used in the film.
Did she ask about the beard, or...?
Yeah, I regret that.
Some people say that when I shave my beard off, it's like when Darth Vader takes his helmet off.
There's nothing revealed under there that anybody should be subject to.
Denmark's queen stripped four of her grandchildren of their royal title so they could shape their own existence.
I think that's unlikely that they're going to be able to shape existence.
That's an odd ontological claim to make.
Yeah, it's a strange one, isn't it?
Also, apparently she's only stripped four of them.
Some of them.
You stay royal.
And the other ones have to.
Royal!
Not royal!
Royal!
Not royal!
There's a quote from the mother of the children who have been stripped of it.
She said she was shocked.
This came out the blue.
The children feel excluded, she said.
Well, they have been.
They can't understand why their identity has been taken away from them.
My kids don't know which leg to stand on.
Interesting.
Both of them.
That's the best way.
Put yourself equidistant between the two of them, particularly now you've not got royalty to fall back on.
You need to maintain your balance at all costs, is what I would say.
Also, they're still going to be called the Count and Countess of Monpezat, which isn't exactly... they're not exactly blending in with the Everyman, are they?
Oh, it was just a humble Count and Countess of Monpezat!
We learned our Countessing on the streets the hard way!
Yeah, that's not... that's hardly a normal life.
It's not a tale of Dickensian depravity, is it, that being a Countess?
Not at all.
I think they'll be fine, won't they?
They're going to make it, though.
I'm going to back that plucky little Countess to make her own way in life.
Liz Truss, she's the Prime Minister of this country that we live in.
She defends oil profits and uncapping banker bonuses.
I want to have a little look at this because if there's one piece of news that gives you a rough sketch of the problem of national and international politics, it's this one.
Liz Truss, in this brief 40-second clip, You'll see her neglect her obligation towards the people that elected her in favour of defending a globalist corporate agenda, suggest that Shell oil board holders are just average Joes.
I mean, so much goes on.
Have a look at this.
Shell is giving their shareholders £6.5 billion.
People at home watching who can't afford to heat their homes come the winter will be horrified at that.
Look at who these shareholders are.
These shareholders are often people with pensions.
You know, pension... Don't just assume that people that are shell oil shareholders are the fat cat.
No.
Who are they ultimately?
Who ultimately owns the lot?
The biggest shareholders are Blackrock.
Blackrock.
Ten trillion dollars in assets they have.
I was a humble countess and a shareholder in Shell Oil via my interest in Black Rock.
To portray the Shell board as ordinary pensioners is an extraordinary depiction.
Shareholders are not all men in suits sitting in offices.
There's no such thing as free money.
That's an interesting thing to say during inflation.
And also, an over-neglect of the idea of welfare, of taking care of people.
Also, when you're talking about free money, there is sometimes free money, isn't there?
When you have to bail out banks.
That's free money to them.
Quantitative easing was a bit like free money when trillions of dollars appeared sort of from nowhere to bail out fraudulent bankers in the crisis of 2008.
Yeah, that sort of seemed like free money.
We've got to be very careful if the UK gets a reputation for arbitrarily taking money in tax that we've not sort of done through the official tax system.
When you say that the UK can't get a reputation for arbitrarily giving out money, who is that reputation among?
That's among, I would suggest, the global corporate elite.
Who are you going to get a reputation on?
Is there some sort of lunch club that countries go to?
There isn't, is there?
That is an international reputation.
So it's, in a sense, a revelation of what agenda drives politics at that level, I suppose so.
Yeah, it is.
It's also talking about tax.
So, did you know this?
The combined tax loss to offshore wealth across the UK and its havens is £64.5 billion per year.
That's more than the NHS staff bill.
The NHS is of course the health service that we have in this country, the UK, where if you hurt yourself, people don't see it as an opportunity to earn a quick buck.
So the amount of money held in offshore tax accounts is enough to pay for the entire staff bill of a nation's health service.
Then of course the Tories have raised, well in 2017 had raised one million through Britain's in tax havens.
So there you go.
You probably don't want to help them out.
Alright, fantastic.
Back to international politics now.
Kamala Harris, don't know which Korea is the goodies and which Korea is the baddies.
Let's have a look at that.
Oh, have you got that now?
Yeah, let's see it.
So the United States shares a very important relationship, which is an alliance with the Republic of North Korea.
Is it North Korea or is it South Korea?
It's South Korea.
It is South, yeah.
That's the whole purpose of the visit.
It's pretty simple.
Concentrate.
Yeah.
North, South.
The gaffe comes just a day after North Korea test-fired a ballistic missile towards the East Sea.
Just towards it, then it just dissipated, vaporized.
No problem there.
No problem there, that'll take care of itself.
So you've got Harris not knowing the difference between North and South and Biden not knowing the difference between dead and alive in terms of that clip the other day.
You know when he talked about Jackie Wolofsky, who he referred to as, he said, where's Jackie?
And it transpired that she died.
I suppose of the divisions to not be able to recognize the distinction between North and South, that's, yeah, that's a problem, but difference between death and life, that's pretty fundamental to not be able to observe that.
He would not make a very good coroner, would he?
No.
If you can't observe the, I don't know, it seemed alright, been laying there still for a while.
He'd think the Queen was still alive.
She seems okay.
Get her back out there.
I say another 70 years.
Let's have another jubilee about it.
And eventually when she's replaced, put some sort of shiny hat on her immediate antecedents.
All right, then.
Of course, the news in your country, America, there is dominated by this ongoing hurricane, Don Lemon.
There's nothing that man won't try to politicise.
Now me, personally, I feel like our attitude towards the planet should be one of reverence, high regard and love.
But I know a lot of you are cynical about the climate change movement because you think it ultimately leads to the instantiation of corporate interests.
Me, generally speaking, I would say look after the planet in any way that you can.
But Don Lemon is overtly politicising this meteorologist's report.
This person's like a dyed-in-the-wool meteorologist Just wants to talk about weather.
Don Lemon, you've got an axe to grind.
Check this out.
Can you tell us what this is and what effect climate change has on this phenomenon?
Well, we can come back and talk about climate change at a later time.
I want to focus on the here and now.
If you look here, you can actually see, pretty interesting for your viewers, you can actually see a second eye wall forming.
Ever heard the term eye wall before?
No, I haven't.
No.
Okay.
...around the inner eye wall, and that's basically the second eye wall has over... Can you stop saying eye wall?
It's not a thing that everybody knows about.
...the original eye wall, and that should arrest development.
Listen, I'm just trying to get that you said you wanted to talk about climate change, but what... I don't think he did say that he wanted to talk about climate change, did he?
No, he said we can talk about it at a later time.
It's not relevant.
What effect does climate change have on this phenomenon that is happening now?
Because it seems these storms are intensifying.
That's the question.
I don't think you can link climate change to any one event.
On the whole, on the cumulative, climate change may be making storms worse, but to link it to any one event... I like this, because this meteorologist is sort of devoted to a particular academic discipline.
He's a scientist, so he's not going to be inclined to politicize something unless he's got the data in front of him that Tells you explicitly that that's what's happening.
But Don Lemon, like, in his sort of attempts to convey a particular agenda, firstly, he just sort of uses power of persuasion, but ultimately resorts to, like, childishness and self-centeredness.
Yeah, I would caution against that.
OK, listen, I grew up there, and these storms are intensifying.
Something is causing them to intensify.
Listen, I'm... Can you tell us what this is?
I'm from there, OK?
And I used to look out the window pretty regularly, and it was not like that.
It's getting worse and worse.
Yeah, you can't just use your emotion to... You can't have an emotional response to weather.
No, but Donald Trump basically wants to ask the questions, did you vote for Joe Biden, and have you been vaccinated?
He basically wants that, doesn't he?
Let's get to the point here.
Are you on my side or not?
Really, they don't teach that at Meteorology.
I just study these formations.
We look at vapour.
That's how this whole thing works.
Okay, it's time for us to dive a little bit deeper into a news story.
Today we are asking broadly, is the system deliberately making you poorer?
And it's hard not to think that it might be.
when you are confronted with the revolving door.
This little clip, loads of you will have seen it already.
It's Troy Hollingsworth, who's the ninth richest person in Congress, with a personal estimated wealth of $75 million, just joshing with members of the banking industry about a new appointment that they're making.
It's time for us to move towards our glorious in-depth item.
Here's the news.
No, here's the fucking news.
Have a look at this.
No, here's the fucking news!
As a congress member openly brags about a staffer leaving to work in Wall Street, we ask you, why are they not even hiding the revolving door anymore?
You've long known that there's a revolving door between Wall Street and Congress.
You know because we've told you, you've told us, we tell each other that people in Congress own stocks and shares in the companies that they regulate.
You know about the lobbying money that provides the mulch that makes the swamp That Trump said he was going to drain, but I don't know if he drained it.
Well, surely you will have seen this week that a member of Congress was openly bragging about a staffer going to join Wall Street.
They laugh about it.
They laugh out loud about it.
Let's have a look in more detail.
During a bank oversight hearing this week, Republican Representative Trey Hollingsworth boasted that one of his staffers would soon be leaving Congress to work on Wall Street, offering a glimpse of the legalised corruption that permeates the highest levels of the US political system.
She's very, very excited, said Hollingsworth, whose past campaigns were funded heavily by the finance and investment industries.
Hollingsworth is worth about $75 million, making him the ninth richest member of Congress.
Let's have a look at the moment that it happened so we can judge for ourselves whether it's the way that you want America to be run or not.
The gentleman from Indiana, Mr. Hollingsworth, is now recognized for five minutes.
What are they doing there?
If you're talking about any kind of regulation or oversight, you're going to have to watch JP Morgan, Citibank and Bank of America.
Right, let's get some fairness and justice and proper regulation into the banking industry.
Who are we going to need?
Well, JP Morgan.
What kind of party could we have without him?
They're the last people you want involved in this situation.
At this point, the idea that our current systems could ever bring about meaningful change in your life is risible.
Think about the number of gatekeepers.
Think about the number of checks.
Think about the systemic corruption, how deeply embedded it is.
What's fascinating about this video is you get to see that it's just conversational,
colloquial, humorous.
It's not like, oh my God, there's this shameful thing where democracy is a joke.
It's just accepted, ordinary, normal.
When we're thinking about the kind of changes that are required, you can see now in real
time the sort of regulations that need to be implemented don't have major banks involved
in financial regulation.
Of course their expertise when it comes to the nitty gritty of the world of finance could
be helpful.
In the same way if we were talking about energy, you'd want to know about people that were
used to dealing with energy.
Dealing with any area of expertise, there has to be consultancy.
But that consultancy cannot be about creating systems that prevent proper regulation.
Think how multivalent the problem is.
The people in Congress own stocks and shares.
They're going to go and work for organisations they're supposed to regulate.
They're lobbied by those organisations.
Now this thing is generations deep already.
It's so sort of creaking and cracked and accreted.
It's like a deep coral reef of corruption.
Well, good afternoon.
I'm excited to be here with each of you.
Before I get started on my questions, Mr. Moynihan, I wanted to let you know, Saruthi, raise your hand, Saruthi.
She has been my team member for a couple of years now, but on Monday, she becomes a Bank of America team member, about which she is very, very excited, so I hope you'll take good care of her and know and recognize the talent that she has shown already in our office.
I'm sure she'll do the same at Bank of America.
We will do that, and her father already works for us, so he'll take care of it.
You should have called us.
Oh God!
Like, just remember that it's not that long ago that the financial industry, and I'm not suggesting that it directly correlates to any of the individuals in this video, but the financial industry more broadly brought America to its knees.
Created a recession not seen since the 1930s.
People lost their homes.
Born out of it was the Occupy movement and new forms of populism that are hated by the Democrat establishment all emerged out of financial corruption and reactions to financial corruption.
We're at the point where it's kind of just joked about.
And what I don't like about this also is the kind of piety when talking about cultural issues.
Don't say that!
Don't use those words!
We're trying to create a better America.
All of the sort of posturing and virtue signalling, that is the real face of American politics.
That's what it looks like.
People having a laugh.
Now I'm not suggesting they're horrible people.
Mr. Ollingsworth, I bet he's alright.
And I bet the people that work at Citibank, they're all alright.
They're all just human beings.
them were once a sperm and an ovum and they're human being and they've got
nephews and nieces and they're all you know they'll work at the same bank
evidently but that is not a system for fair government something that has
inbuilt nepotism revolving doors jobs for the boys jobs for the girls jobs for
the appropriate people and if it is just that just tell us that this is what it
is don't pretend like make people get out of bed every four years and send in
a postal ballot oh there we go There!
Take that, Donald Trump!
There, Joe Biden!
That shows you!
There's just a leaf floating in the breeze.
It's irrelevant.
Don't get all caught up and het up about any of that stuff, election fraud, this.
It doesn't matter.
You're going to end up with these kind of conversations.
Do you think that there's a single political figure today that would stop that exchange happening?
There isn't, because it would be written in a manifesto.
It would say, You will not be able to work in Wall Street if you have had a job anywhere in Congress.
No one in Congress can receive funding from these companies.
Banks will be regulated by people that are completely independent and outside of the banking industry.
Who's got those policies?
Who wants to show me?
So I don't know much about this stuff so it's quite possible I'm wrong.
Let me know in the chat.
Let me know in the comments because I want to learn more.
At the moment I think this is so deeply systemic that no sort of Charismatic figure from either side, whether it's someone slick and charming like Obama or bombastic and funny like Trump.
I don't think anyone's gonna come out of that system.
We did a video the other day, Obama boy in the stock act.
Thank you, Obama.
And then a year later, Obama repealed it.
Damn you, Obama.
And then a few years later, Biden says, we beat you, Big Pharma!
We beat Pharma this year!
He's taken more money from Big Pharma than anyone else.
They have to be outside of it.
It has to be actually, and this is the heartening thing, us.
It has to be you.
You have to go, well, what am I going to do?
How am I going to run my community differently?
How are we going to form alliances that are cohesive enough to confront this kind of hegemony?
Um, we're good.
Well, I appreciate the opportunity to chat about some of these issues today.
Do you think there's any bit of him now, the bit where he's gone, and now I appreciate the opportunity, he's gone, oh shit, this looks like we're all mates and I couldn't possibly regulate these people because we're all working for one another and we operate in this company.
That's theatre!
Like when you see those sort of things, you know, like you used to see in JFK and like when they're talking to the mob or Jimmy Hoffa.
This stuff's meant to be legit, right?
Or is it all just theatre?
Don't they all have the same kind of interests, really?
Don't they all own shares in similar interests?
I don't know!
You tell me in the chat below if you think that stuff's gonna lead to...
Oh, and then on Wednesday, my mortgage repayments were sorted out.
And on Friday, we got a job that was meaningful and valuable.
And then on Thursday, all of the food that we were eating improved in quality.
Then Friday, our marriage was better.
And then on Saturday, I felt that there was some spiritual value and meaning in my life and that we were able to accept that people were different and had different value systems but could kind of get along.
It all came out of that room where people were going, haha, Sarah starts on Monday.
Look after her.
We've already got her father at the back.
Brilliant!
Okay, I've got a newborn baby.
Can that have a job?
Yeah, fucking throw it over here.
We'll give this guy a job.
Stick it over there.
It could be a bank clerk.
We don't open the banks anymore.
I don't know.
We'll just put it by the ATM.
I appreciate the opportunity to chat about some of these issues today.
What I'm really interested in is the state of the economy.
Actually, I'm in the state of the economy, that's why I come here.
I get up every morning with my 75 million dollars and my family at all work at various Wall Street banks.
What is the state of the economy so I can continue to steal from it?
Sounds like a mad conspiracy theorist.
Neither do I want to sound reductive and naive.
I'm simply saying that that exchange demonstrates to you the true nature of congressional politics and its relationship with the financial industry.
I don't think they're all sort of lined up being pals, having a barbecue, doing can-cans or whatever.
I'm saying simply that that's a sort of a glimpse It's at the reality of the system that they work very hard to pretend it's all about merit and hard work and stuff you don't understand.
We had no choice but to do the quantitative easing package.
You wouldn't understand.
You're too stupid.
You're too stupid to understand what really went on in 2008.
Oh, really?
Because what it seemed like is people had done a bunch of deals and stuff that they knew was going to go tits up, but they did it anyway.
And then no one suffered from it.
And all those people got rich.
And then you sort of meted out all of the losses across the world.
No!
No!
Because what it looks like is they're all mates and they know each other and like that woman and her dad all work for the bank and the bank is funding that geezer's campaign and so that geezer don't regulate the bank's problems.
No!
No!
It's not that!
You're not using the right type of words.
Oh yeah, no, I must be too stupid.
We've all got things like that in our own lives.
None of us are perfect.
We've all done stuff.
We're all doing things.
It's like you're all on a journey trying to improve as individuals.
But what I'm saying is the systems that we live within are Accentuating our lower nature, let's call it greed, selfishness, you know what I mean, Sesame Street stuff, instead of kindness, compassion, selflessness.
So what kind of life are we going to end up with if all of the power is centralised around people that are running on their lowest possible motives?
Not saying Mike Ollingsworth is bad, or the head of JP Morgan or whatever, I don't know them, I bet they're alright.
I bet if you met them somewhere and chatted, they're alright.
But the systems are broken.
The exchange offered a rare on-camera look at the revolving door between Congress and the financial industry, as well as the remarkably cosy relationship between lawmakers on the House Financial Services Committee and big banks.
Like, we talk to you all the time about this.
There are people regulating industries that they directly benefit from.
How can that happen?
How can they reliably be asked to regulate that?
The revolving door between committees that oversee the nation's banks spins particularly fast.
Many lawmakers and aides involved in crafting and watering down Wall Street regulations in the wake of the 2008 financial crash went on to take jobs at large financial institutions.
You remember at the time they went, oh so bad this has happened, we're gonna bail out the banks and we're gonna teach them a lesson.
Don't worry it'll never happen again.
They created regulations and they watered down those regulations and then they went on like old laughing boys mate to Get jobs in the financial industry.
Oh, that's so complicated, but I can't understand that.
It's sort of, I suppose to a layman like me, it sounds like you gave them really shady, easy regulations and then they gave you jobs.
And if you'd have served the American people instead of serving the financial industry, you'd have gone, these lot should all go to jail.
These people should be bailed out instead of those banks.
Here's how we'll ensure that never happens again.
We'll look into all the people who got massive bonuses during that time.
We're going to take all those bonuses back.
We're going to take this value off of these banks.
We're going to return that to the economy.
We're going to nationalise these into... All of these kind of things didn't happen, and to reward them for not doing that, They gave them jobs.
That's like trusting your right hand to stop your left hand from masturbating.
Public Citizen has estimated that in the midst of the economic crisis, the financial services industry deployed more than 1,400 former federal employees, including ex-committee staffers, to lobby Congress on banking issues.
So far in 2022, commercial banks have spent over $30 million lobbying Congress, 61% to Republicans and 39% to Democrats.
Perhaps you're a person who prefers the left side of the congressional system and you think, oh, well, that was a Republican person.
But 61% of the $30 million spent lobbying Congress was spent on Republicans and 39% to Democrats.
60-40 split.
It's not that different.
I mean, elections are a lot closer in your country, but it's not clear enough, is it?
In October 2021, Democrats scaled back plans for a crackdown on tax cheating, bowing to an aggressive lobbying campaign by the banking industry.
That's another thing, isn't it?
That we see them do these great ceremonies of, you know, the Stock Act, or we're going to make sure that never happens.
Out front, there's patriotism, jingoism, fist pumping and fist bumping.
This is for the American people.
Then just a bit later, we're not going to do that anymore.
We're like children.
We're bewildered.
Unless we stay awake and stay conscious, we'll continually be subject to this kind of regulation and legislation.
There'll be a bit where they say they're doing something about it.
I beat Big Pharma this year!
Okay, Big Pharma, crack on, lads!
Unless you stay awake and stay alert, the system will continue to reassert itself.
They can handle five years of going, oh, sorry about that banking crash, or sorry about this Big Pharma exploitative profits.
They know that a lot of people are thinking, bloody hell, they made a lot of money over at Pfizer during that pandemic.
Is that right while these people were suffering?
Same as in the banking crash.
Wow, all of those banks and stuff, they did rather well out of this and then they all just got bailed out.
Yeah, but in a while we'll forget.
75 years when the files are released we'll have forgotten by then.
So you have an obligation to first of all accept that corruption and accept your own responsibility to stay awake and stay responsible.
But that's just what I think.
let me know what you think in the chat and I'm going to be responding to you in just a minute.
Patriot Sean said because the world at large failed the largest IQ test,
COVID pandemic, government actions, they don't feel they have to hide things from the mass of idiots.
Music saved my life, 25.
You said, Russell, there needs to be a cap or limit on how much someone in politics can earn.
Manifold says, lobbyism is criminal and should be forbidden.
Pure poison for a democratic country.
Liz Trust, the recently elected Prime Minister of the UK, not elected by people of course, elected by her own party.
We saw her in that clip earlier say there's no such thing as free money.
When money is managed in the manner that it is with quantitative easing, accessible to people within a certain industry but not available to people at large, how can you ever have reasonable, realistic change without popular movements, without ordinary people coming together?
It is a great honour for me to introduce our guest today, Mick Lynch, the leader of the Rail and Maritime and Train Workers Union.
Transport.
Transport.
That's all forms of transport.
Of them rail, maritime, transport union workers in your union, who's the most trouble?
I would think maritime.
Maritime's very difficult because we've had international laws that have got rid of the British Merchant Marine.
There are very few seafarers left in this country, which is absurd for an island nation.
But they do give me a lot of trouble.
A lot of people from Liverpool.
Yeah.
That group of people.
I would think they're capable of creating a little bit of ag.
Mate, you've revitalised union politics since you've come to prominence in this country.
How do we change the perception of union movements which, in a way, has come to be regarded as something that belongs to a former century?
It's become regarded as antiquated.
It's become a little bit nullified, stultified.
Like in ordinary politics, it doesn't seem there's any vibrancy.
And yet, without strong unions, how can ordinary people ever come together to confront established problems?
Well, looking at me, you'd wonder why it looks a bit old-fashioned, but we've got to link up.
I mean, the workplace is a really important place.
We spend at least a third of our time at work, and we've got to get a square deal.
And if we get a square deal at work, the rest of the communities will follow.
So if you look what's happening, people being exploited on a gross level, In the UK, in America, all around the world, people have lost the right to have dignity and respect in the workplace, as well as getting a fair day's wage and fair benefits and all the rest of it.
So the unions have got to come out of the workplace and into the communities and link up with all these growing movements.
You've got people now, which wasn't a phenomenon when I was young, We've got identity politics who want to assert their own identities on the world and express themselves.
We've got environmental campaigners.
We've got the traditional campaigns about pay and conditions.
And we've got to make sure we're all linked up together so that we can show the bosses, the people that run the world, that we have got our own voice and we can link up.
No matter what our background, whether it's an ethnic background, a national background, religious belief or whatever, we've got to link up.
And if you see the women in Iran this week, if you see the people struggling all over the world.
In India last year, they had the biggest strike in the history of humanity.
Three and a half million farmers went on strike.
Because of the laws the Indian government brought in to do the farmers down to bring modern farming techniques.
So we've got the ability to link up in all our communities and across the world to get a better deal for all of us so that we feel we've got some control of the world in which we live.
And at the moment, most people feel it's out of control and they're just being exploited and directed not just in the money they earn, but in the way that they think, and
the way that they react with each other, and the way they interact in society.
And that's got to change.
We've got to feel that we've got a stake and a say in society.
This imagined distinction between people that identify with traditional
cultural ideology and progressive cultural ideology, I feel is one of the divisions that has to be mended.
This Enough is Enough protest that takes place tomorrow in support of your union's strikes is perhaps one example of how different groups can come together, coalesce around one protest movement.
Can you explain a little bit about what's happening tomorrow?
Exactly.
So some unions have got a bit of power left.
So railway workers and postal workers that are out have obviously got the ability to take action.
But it's our responsibility to link up with the powerless or the people who don't know how to organise.
And that could be from saving your local nursery to saving something big in your society like the NHS or the education service.
So we know how to organise, but we've got to spread that out and we've got to link up.
So tomorrow, we're going to ask people who are campaigning on all these local issues, or anything they're angry about in this society, to come and support the workers that are on strike.
Because if we win and show trust and quasi-quarteing and the powers that be, that we have got an active voice and a say, then we can give them hope that they can change their community, whether it's on a council estate or housing scheme, Whether you're angry about fracking, or the environment, or food, or whatever it is you're angry about.
If you're organizing, you can make these link-ups and connections through new media, but old-fashioned techniques, and bring the generations together, as well as all the diversity that we've got.
Diversity is wonderful, but unity is powerful, and that's what we've got to have.
Put aside our differences, and make the things that bring us together, which is the preservation of our planet, Earning a decent wage, getting good conditions, but also dignity, as I've said already.
The dignity of life and the dignity of work and the ability to live freely, the title of your show, is what it's all about.
We've got to bring people together, like we did in America in the 60s with the civil rights movement, started off as a minority situation, ended up Making the president, several presidents, move their responses and change the laws, change the state's laws, change the federal laws.
We had that in our country with the Racial Equality Acts and the Sex Discrimination Acts and the stuff about women's freedoms and all the rest of it.
It's when you link up together rather than sit in your own pillar that you make change in society.
And the people have got to relearn that.
They used to have it, I think, in the old days.
So you've got to learn what our forebears did but use these new techniques, social media, different techniques are coming together to say we're together and we're going to change this world for the better.
So there is action taking place in 50 cities across the UK tomorrow.
There's a link in the description if you want to support that action.
Please take a look at that.
I was really interested to hear you talk about the agricultural protests in India because many people believe that those protests are a result of Globalist edicts, top-down ideologies, out of places like the WEF, out of new conditions placed on fertilizers and stuff, that when it hits the reality of agriculture, it impoverishes farmers and makes their practices impossible.
We've had a lot of positive feedback.
We speak to Vandana Shiva, who's an expert in that area, in Indian activism and agriculture.
And this sort of, let's call it a globalist agenda that is being pursued, is one reason why the response But we did it before.
kind of establishment power has to be similarly organised.
Whilst we would never support centralised globalist power, people have to find new ways of uniting
and coming together.
But we did it before. If you take child labour in the UK, in America or wherever it happened,
when they abolished child labour a lot of working class people said I can't do this
because I'm going to be poorer.
I depend on that child to support the income, especially when you've lost a parent or whatever.
What it needs is an entire reform.
So you need education reform, health reform, you need welfare spending to bring those families that are the poorest with you.
So when a farmer is subject to a change that they've not participated in, they didn't participate in making the change, They feel that they're a subject of society, rather than a person who's active in it.
So we've got to give people the ability to be activists and influencers in their own society.
When you feel powerless, you feel that you're just the object of what's going on.
And that's what self-help and self-emancipation Somebody once said, is the job of the working people themselves.
So they need organisations in which they can act, rather than just react to a single event.
So you need a whole programme of change that working people feel they're in control of.
Mick, how do you create a sense of cohesion and support for industrial action, where most people feel like when their trains are on strike or whatever, this is like a massive pain in the arse, I can't get anywhere, like James over here, he's running a marathon, Uh, on Saturday, it's the London Marathon on Saturday.
So, like, you know, which, like, in a way, it raises loads of money for charity, and I sometimes think, bloody hell, a lot of those causes should be supported by the state and by infrastructure.
Anyway, James is doing it for, like, kids' cancer charity, but in a properly civilized world, children with cancer will be supported in some, uh, in a way that's a little more reliable than people running 26 miles.
How do you help people to understand the necessity for industrial action and so that people don't... We've been trying to kind of see it as a massive pain in the arse.
Well, you get nothing without struggle.
So we wouldn't have the welfare state in this country if the trade unions hadn't made it happen.
We wouldn't have got anywhere in America, we would not have abolished slavery at that time unless there was a massive conflagration to make that happen.
We wouldn't have got civil rights, we wouldn't have got gay rights without people willing to take the pain of making change.
Now I don't want to impose inconvenience and disruption on people.
But if we win this dispute, if we get a result, if the posties get a dispute, the nurses and the doctors that are coming in to struggle, we will all be better off because it will make the ruling class, that old term, think I've got to share some of this power with people, I've got to distribute some of this wealth, but I've also got to allow them or give room for people to have influence.
So it is a struggle for all of us.
People used to understand that a bit more, and the job of the trade union is to be out in those communities explaining self-organization and struggle that comes from below, rather than just meaningful good deeds and meaningful papers written by the eminent people.
We've got to make that change ourselves.
There'll be no change without the ordinary people of this world making it happen and that's what we've got to be part of.
I suppose we have to recognise that the establishment itself is invested only in its own sustenance.
Even that story we've just done about congressional corruption and the revolving door between Washington and Wall Street is a demonstration That the system will always preserve itself.
New legislation's being introduced to replace that stock act, but as usual, there's a loophole that means that people in Congress ultimately will be able to own stocks and shares, or someone close to them will be able to.
That suggests, or demonstrates in fact, that power will have to come from outside of the normal spaces.
We will have to move beyond the usual democratic means.
It will involve protest, it will involve grassroots action.
If you're interested in real change, We're going to have to do a few things, including overcoming the kind of prejudices that are stoked in order to prevent ordinary people coming together.
If we sort of see ourselves as divided along cultural, religious, racial or identity lines, how will we ever challenge meaningful establishment power?
Unless we're willing in ourselves to look beyond those kind of ingrained prejudices, those trained prejudices, and come together in support of ordinary people, who want to have power in their own lives.
Whether it's around, as Mick is explaining to us, around workplace action, like these rail strikes, or smaller community-oriented action, there cannot be meaningful change.
So I suppose tomorrow, and the Enough is Enough campaign, is an opportunity for people to support striking workers.
And as you say, whatever community issue you've got some sort of gripe with, this is a chance to get out there.
Exactly, but I really take your point that we've got to overcome our own inbuilt prejudices, stuff that was fed into us as kids.
I mean, I've had a struggle with identity policy.
It was something in my generation we never dealt with, and I've had to say... What do you mean?
Well, because we were, you know, gay people's rights and transgender...
All non-binary, I never knew what that meant two years ago.
And I have to overcome that internally.
But now I've got to the position where I say my job is to facilitate people who are struggling and be tolerant and allow them to come into our movement.
I could just say it's railway workers, blokes out in orange digging up the railway, but it's got to be part of a bigger movement that allows space for everyone.
So that means we've got to challenge the religious groups that are sometimes Socially conservative to fight for workers rights.
We've got to get people who may have been had reactionary politics to change Toleration of each other is the star of unity and that certainly sounds a bit hippie ish It is but it is absolutely true if we're all going to be united together.
We've got to put down our weapons and We've got to love one another.
You can't build anything out of hate.
You can't build anything meaningful out of hate.
In a sense, it's obvious that the people that are causing the problems in your life can't be other people that don't have power.
I always feel that the dynamism of any movement must be focused on where power lies.
Who is it that makes decisions?
Who is it that benefits?
During the pandemic, we saw a huge wealth transfer.
People in the pharmaceutical industry got wealthier.
People in big tech got wealthier.
This was not a time where minorities hugely benefited.
I feel that we're deliberately distracted, that these kind of divisions are stoked, and we should be looking for opportunities to unite and come together.
And the easiest one to stoke is migration.
So you've got the issue in America about coming over the border from Latin America.
We've got the issue here right now about people coming across the Channel.
They want us to hate those people.
At the same time, they want cheap labor.
So America is full of people from Latin America doing the work at the bottom of the equation.
In this country, we have got a double standard.
At one stage, we're saying, keep them out.
Another stage, it's quite handy to have them.
And the agriculture industry at the minute is saying we need more immigrants.
So we've got to challenge those double standards.
Nobody is our enemy.
Nobody should be illegal in any society.
If they're here they should be treated exactly the same way that those of us been here a while should be treated.
And that's one of the big prejudices we've all got to overcome is stop hating other people because the people in control tell us to hate them.
Unity is the answer and that's what we've got to strive for.
I feel like the thing the establishment fears more than anything else is ordinary people coming together in a focused way, understanding that new systems can be created among us if we're willing to communicate.
Hey mate, I sort of want some kind of absolution from you.
When I was a kid, I inadvertently did some scabbing.
Now what happened was, it was Christmas time, and I feel like the postal union, like the mailman union, or mailperson union, they was all out on strike.
I didn't know that, I was doing work for a temp agency, and I'd done some deliveries, you know what I mean, I worked as a postman, I was only 18, I had slippery shoes on, I was skidding about, I was delivering letters, the mail sack was over my shoulder, it weighed heavy on my mind, as does the guilt of the issue.
Can you absolve me from the guilt of working over Christmas, delivering letters, some of which I did steal as a matter of fact, that was wrong, if I know that was wrong, you shouldn't steal people.
It's still in effect now, you ought to be careful about that.
No, no, sorry about that.
There's no statute of limitations.
Is there no statute of limitations?
No.
In that case, I didn't nick that Frank Sinatra CD.
Double bumper Christmas special.
I wasn't properly educated on the issue at the time.
Well, scabs heal, that's the point.
Oh, that's nice!
And they drop off.
So it's about what happens next time.
The next time you're called to a bit of solidarity, whether it's industrial action or supporting a minority group or a campaign, that's where you get the absolution.
It's the work you do that gives you the better feeling about yourself.
And if you can support something that you may have found challenging in the past, as I've just described, That's even better.
It's easy to support things that everybody can support.
It's supporting people that really need help, that are really stigmatising society that's a really important bit.
So that's where it'll come from.
You forgive it?
What about the trains?
I do remember you telling me about fare evading at one point.
I did do quite a lot of fare evasion as well, but that was already privatised by then, Mick.
I'm not in any ordinary people.
That's not so bad.
I'd hide in the toilet, smoke my weed, keep my mouth shut, keep my head down.
That's another one you'd be up for.
That's three.
You're just giving yourself a list of misdemeanours.
That's three strikes.
I'm looking at a mandatory five.
Well, if Priti Patel finds out or one of these Tories, you could be banged up forever.
I'd like to say that I said all these things simply to impress Mick and for a little bit of a laugh.
Also, I guess what we have to recognise is that we have to recognise the significance of solidarity.
We have to overcome the idea that these movements are a thing of the past.
If you consider that the Amazon workers in Tilbury, near where I'm from, in Greys, I think had some action lately.
And of course, the invisible workers that are within big tech An emergent union movement, because frankly it's needed there, isn't it?
So wherever you're watching this in the world, if you're watching this in the United States of America, there is a necessity for this kind of infrastructure and for these kind of movements.
Yeah, I think there's an ABC union getting together in Silicon Valley, but outsourcing, the people not working directly, is a big scourge of working people.
And if you look in our communities, many people are suffering from that, and we've got to identify them.
And the unions such as in Amazon, the big unions like GMB and Unite, I've got to come into those places and help them.
In America, the Teamsters are trying to get it going, but there's little emergent unions as well.
So, we can't get into competition.
We've got to make sure that we bring everybody forward.
It is really difficult to organise.
People died for this stuff.
The American trade union history is really rich about how they organised it back there in Victorian times and before the Second World War.
And we've got to understand our heritage and take that forward so that we don't use those values.
Solidarity is great.
Everybody feeling good about taking on the man, as they used to be described, makes everyone feel better.
Remember who you are.
Remember where you're from.
Tomorrow, the Enough is Enough campaign will be across 50 cities.
150,000 people are already taking part.
Support the action tomorrow, and if you ever find yourself scabbing as a mailman, don't nick no letters.
That's just some of the things we've used, some of the things we've learned.
Thanks for joining us, Mick.
That was a fantastic conversation.
Best of luck tomorrow.
Hope that works out.
Now, we talked about Vandana Shiva briefly there, and of course, the underlying theme of everything we're discussing is community.
What kind of common unity can we find?
Every year, we hold a festival.
We did it for the first time in Hay On White.
It was fantastic, Mick.
I hope you'll come next year.
Wim Hof, Vandana Shiva, Eckhart Tolle will be joining us next year.
Have a look at the community festival.
It's taking place next year, next summer, but have a look at what happened last year and join us.
There are tickets available right now.
Check it out.
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I hope you learned a thing or two there, Gareth, about what it means to come together in unity.
Yeah, I certainly did.
Yeah, I was going to ask Mick actually, but I thought I didn't want to interrupt.
Well, no, because I was doing much more of a grown-up conversation.
I noticed.
I thought it wasn't right for me to chip in.
All that money that we raise from doing things like that community, by the way, we use to support mental health charities and addiction charities like Friendly House in Los Angeles, BAC O'Connor in Stoke.
Both of those places are treatment centres that help people with alcohol and addiction issues.
But we also make individual grants, so if you know someone, or you yourself, ...are suffering from mental health issues or addiction issues, we'll help you.
Not like we'll give you 500 quid or 500 bucks so you can go and get off your nut.
We'll help you to get well.
Also, with the merchandise that we've got, look at this wonderful array of products.
All of the money that we raised, look at this wonderful array of products.
Look at this wonderful array of products.
All of the money that we raise goes to the Stay Free Foundation, which also just helps people with mental health issues and addiction issues.
So if you fancy a bit of that, there's a link in the description.
And why not join us for the community event if you fancy it?
Because I was concentrating on Mick there and making sure that we properly supported him, because he's a proper serious geezer, isn't he, Mick?
I mean, he's running an entire union.
I took my eye off the ball with the old Let me just see what kind of thing people are saying.
I mean, people are saying, yeah, unions, yeah, unions.
That's good.
People are being all right.
That's OK.
What's this?
I learned that some people are great salespeople.
I need to ask these people challenging questions, Russell.
What kind of challenging questions?
I feel like that was a pretty good interview, wasn't it?
I think so, Russ.
Yeah.
I mean, we didn't get to talk.
What I thought would be interesting to talk about would be The TV, the media coverage, because you mentioned the Indian protests and that's something that was just not covered over here in the same way that loads of protests around the world just don't seem to be covered by the media.
And I know that he has had some pretty tricky interviews with British press over the last year or so.
So why is there a demonization of coming together?
I mean, I think we probably know why.
Yeah, because anything that could possibly challenge establishment power has to be undermined and demonised.
I suppose that is why.
And when you see people in Sri Lanka, or the Indian farmer movement, or the Dutch farm movement, or the German farm movement, when you see that, when you start to recognise, hang about, we've got more in common with one another than we have with the centralised elite powers that seek to maintain their dominion.
Once those stories start to be told, It kind of is sort of encouraging. It's a bit rabble rousing.
Do you think I made a mistake telling him about the nicking them letters?
No, I don't think he's gonna do you for it. I think he's got more important things at the moment.
He's a bit busy isn't he? He's got a lot of time to deal with that.
Alright, now it's time for us to look at some fake comments to see what kind of stuff you're saying.
What have we got? What have people been sending us, Sue?
Fake comments.
Amy Amy has sent us a clip from some weather activity in Vegas.
Let's have a look.
Bloody hell.
This is it. Don Lemon's not going to like this.
He's going to be furious.
Also, they do say what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, but it looks like it's actually going to be carried out there in a terrible deluge.
What else is going on in World of Comments?
What else are people sending in?
Peter has sent us a clip, actually, of the Apple VP guy.
Oh yeah!
Think about this, when you consider an executive at Apple, a big tech company, slick Silicon Valley executives, possibly wearing a little bit of cashmere, some cool horn-rimmed specs, this is a proper exec who understands big tech.
Have a look at this geezer though, in reality.
Good sir, your car's awesome, what do you do for a living?
There's too many things about this clip that I'm worried about.
Firstly, there's his outfit.
Why is he wearing that mad Union Jack thing?
The red shoes.
And what about his cackling co-pilot?
His cackling cohort there?
That sort of shrill, terrifying racket.
Who is this geezer?
Here, I'm looking to get into that.
Also, if you're interested, I've got a hell of a dental plan.
Oh, good!
You do it all, you do it all.
And you participate in this activity.
Thank you so much.
I would call that a macabre interaction.
Yeah, she laughs at literally anything.
Yeah, she does.
The only thing it'd be like to be with someone who laughed at everything you said.
He undermines it.
Yeah, it does, after a while.
You start to lose the treasure.
Young Putin, what was your main concern about that?
Him sort of getting out of the car.
Yeah.
500 grand.
It's not a very nice way of getting out of a car.
Yeah, if you've got a 500 grand car, you don't want something that you have to put your back out every time you emerge or enter the vehicle, do you?
What else have we got?
Grandma Nancy has a clip from Egypt.
Ah, yeah.
Now, this is about, like, tomb raiding, isn't it?
It's literal tomb raiding.
But you've got some concerns about that, of course.
Well, yeah, absolutely, yeah.
We know from movies, don't we, that it never ends well when this happens.
If you think of films like The Mummy and that, it's not like, oh, we opened that tomb and it was really brilliant and we all learned a valuable lesson.
Or Indiana Jones and his various, like, crusades and stuff.
Whenever they start pulling, like, a concrete lid, obviously it won't be concrete, it's a relatively modern thing, but, like, a slab off the top of stuff, it's never like someone comes out and goes, I've got some lottery numbers!
Is it?
It's always like a terrifying green mist that eviscerates you and melts your skin and that.
I've got some permission to do it as well.
What right have you got?
That's kind of the point of a tomb, isn't it?
That it stays shut.
What's the statute of limitations?
Like, you know, there was a point where that was a pharaoh, presumably, right?
Or someone important enough to get buried in gold.
Like, what's it say?
When's it, okay, I'll go and do the queen.
What is it, a week?
Two weeks?
What's the statute?
Yeah.
Like, you know, like, when's the time?
When's it all right to do it?
Right, get back out of there!
Like, for the grieving relatives, I'll say leave them in there.
But let's have a look, see what it's like in there now, if we're going to do a tomb raid.
Okay, let's have a look.
It's a giant garlic bread, isn't it?
It's a giant garlic bread.
It's like a world record attempt for a garlic bread.
Yeah, like when you see, like, in this small town, every year they make a massive pizza.
They do that story.
Sometimes you see that in the news, when someone makes a massive... It's the world's biggest paella!
This is just like 2,500-year-old garlic bread that you get ready-made.
The oven.
Fair enough.
Stuffed crust, all that kind of stuff.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I am a vegan.
Let's have a look at this as well.
Some of you will have seen this story.
This is the bloke who, I think he's a CEO or he's high up at Beyond Meat.
Check out, you know, you know that he bit someone's face off, didn't he?
Let's have a look.
Doug Ramsey was arrested over the weekend for allegedly biting a man's nose after an altercation following a college football game in Arkansas.
He was charged with terroristic threatening and third-degree battery.
A lot of these people that are running sort of modern corporations, they're savage, aren't they?
Yeah.
There's all this leery geezer, I'll grab people's bums for a living!
Look at my motor!
And then him biting off the middle of people's faces.
He looks like he's left a bit of it in that bap at the top there.
Yeah, no, I don't fancy it.
That's put me at, like, yeah, it does somewhat challenge the idea that Beyond Meat is an ethical alternative when the people that are running the place bite chunks out of people's heads when the mood takes them.
Absolutely bloody ridiculous.
It looks like a Charles Insoul, doesn't it?
That does not look like bacon to me.
Not that I'm saying we should be eating bacon, but... What do you mean?
It looks too much like Fisher-Price bacon, like children's toy bacon.
Yeah, fair enough.
Well, as you know, I'm a vegan person and you know like some vegans will only eat like stews or whatever?
Me, I like pretend meat.
For me, that was a massive breakthrough when that happened because I was bullied into veganism.
I didn't really want to be a vegan, I just sort of had to do it because people just kept going on at me the whole time.
Do you know that they can grow it in a lab?
They'll just grow actual meat in a lab, like the same way as they would grow an ear on a mouse's back.
That's right.
So do you fancy that?
They did it with mouse's backs to start with, didn't they?
Little bits of meat.
Chicken drumstick.
Yeah, just grow a little drumstick on a mouse's back.
I don't eat anything off of a mouse's back.
No.
That's one of... nothing from a... That's your policy.
It's always been your policy.
Is that bit on the mouse's back?
Has that come out of an ancient tomb?
I don't want it, you can bloody well keep it.
Yeah, I won't get involved with it.
Well, is that essentially the end of the news today?
It seems like it.
Might I have any more comments, or?
Well, yeah, we'll stick up the comments instead of this.
There's a little bit of Justin Trudeau.
I wouldn't mind having a look, because Justin Trudeau has been visiting Canada.
We've not really got time to get into the Nord Stream pipeline, but we're going to cover that in depth on Monday.
That Nord Stream pipeline, that's dodgy.
Let me know in the chat, let me know in the comments what you think about it.
Something shady is going on there.
People, well when I say people, I mean NATO, NATO suspects sabotage.
But who's done that sabotage?
It's a gas pipeline whodunit.
Who is it that done it?
Was it Russia?
Was it America?
We're going to talk about that in depth on Monday.
Firstly, before we go though, let's have a quick look at Justin Trudeau, Prime Minister of Canada, boy band member, occasional dresser-upper, is in London and identifiable by that London bus in the background.
Let's have a little look at him having a little sing song.
What he's got is the vibe of a person who thinks they're good at singing.
Yeah.
Doesn't he?
He fancies himself as a singer, doesn't he?
He does.
Because he's sort of a bit... He's pleased with himself, isn't he?
He's buzzing.
He's quite stage school, isn't he?
He's high on his own supply, isn't he?
He's whiffing up his own little farts at that baby grand, isn't he?
is enjoying it a little bit too much.
It's a loss, and it will be, lost not to be found.
What I feel like with the Trudeaus, the Macrons, the what I call nice hair politicians,
is they're very good at sort of posing and that their discourse and declarations are sort of on
point.
Fairness, justice, kindness, but it seems like a sort of an odd lubricant for new tyranny in effect is what's happening because the way them truckers were treated, The bank accounts being frozen, the sort of inability for them to have democratic recourse.
That's why I love someone like Vandana Shiva, who'll come on, tell it how it is.
Like, not willing to be divided along racial lines or cultural lines.
Recognising, ultimately, that what we're interested in is the ability to run our own lives as individuals.
The ability to run our own communities collectively.
That's why on this channel, we don't care if you love Trump, we don't care if you hate Trump.
We don't care if you love Biden, we don't care if you loathe Biden.
We would suggest that in spite of these superficial divisions, we have more in common with one another than separates us.
And if we're willing to overlook these exacerbated differences, we will be able to formulate something new and beautiful.
Remember, they fear nothing more than ordinary people coming together in pursuit of a common goal.
I'm not suggesting centralised power or some crazy one-world government.
I think more democracy, more dissolution of power, more ability to run your own life and run your own communities.
That's what I'm interested in.
That's what gets me up in the morning in a badged denim shirt.
It's my ongoing goal to create a global utopia where people are free to be whoever the hell it is they are.
Are you going to add any more badges?
Yes, I will, over time.
You're like a Cob Scout.
Do you think that I am like that?
A little bit.
I used to collect budgies as a cub scout.
Of course you did.
I bet you was a right good little cub.
I was, actually.
I was pretty good.
A remnant disciple of Jesus.
Russell is vegan.
Now it makes sense why it is looped.
Yeah, I do.
I am a vegan.
River swimmer.
Lizard people like hormone-blocked people.
Impossible child food.
J-nobody.
We need Jesus, folks.
Yep, I love Jesus.
Nerd far away.
I will not eat the bugs.
I'm a meat and a wheat eater.
See, I'm a vegan, but I don't mind about other people's food.
We can't go around killing each other over whether or not they have an ham sandwich.
Brilliant.
All right.
So do you know what happens now?
Our live stream here on Rumble for today is over.
But if you're a member of the Stay Free AF community, that's our little membership community, there's a link in the description that tells you how to join.
If you do join it, you get special access to live events that we do.
You'll hear loads of podcasts that we've already done with fantastic people.
Elon is coming on soon.
Donald will be along shortly.
AOC, why the hell not?
We want to have conversations with people across the political, religious, and cultural spectrum.
We want to find out what the truth is.
That's why you're going to love our show on Monday, where we're talking about the Nord Stream pipeline and looking at, like, there's some amazing evidence.
Joe Biden, before we go, I'm just going to tease this with you.
Joe Biden said, like, we're always showing you, like, the silly side of Biden, because it's a side... Biden!
Biden!
Joe, just keep it down.
That's the side of the man that I enjoy.
But take a moment to look at Sinister Joe.
This is in February, earlier this year, when talking about the likelihood of conflict with Russia and the potential energy crisis that may ensue.
Check out what Joe Biden had to say.
Let me answer this first question first.
If Germany... He's so pleased with himself.
First question first.
Yeah, do answer the first question first.
It's not question roulette.
I'm gonna do the ninth question, then the third.
Just do the questions in the order they come in.
If Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the border.
We know what invade means!
That means.
What does that mean, invade?
Is that some sort of party, is it?
Some sort of dinner and dance?
Of Ukraine, again.
Then there will be no longer Nord Stream 2.
We will bring an end to it.
There won't be a Nord Stream 2, OK.
But how will you do that?
How?
How are you going to do it?
Exactly.
Since the project and control of the project is within Germany's control.
We will, I promise you, we'll be able to do it.
Sinister!
Spooky!
Well, I promise you we'll be able to do it.
And all of a sudden, our pipelines are blowing up.
Was it Russia?
Was it America?
We're certainly not saying it was anybody.
We're certainly not saying that America had good reason to do it.
Or that Condoleezza Rice, as long ago as 2014, was espousing interesting stuff.
You've got to watch our show Monday.
It's going to be fantastic.
Allegedly.
The show will be fantastic.
I'm not alleging that.
That's absolutely true.
We've got some fantastic guests coming up next week.
Wim Hof is going to be on the show, so we'll be doing a little bit of breath work together.
Ex-MI5 intelligence officer Annie McMahon.
She's going to tell us stuff about spies.
She's a real-life James Bond.
Is she?
She is.
She must be.
Do you reckon, like, as well as the other stuff?
Because I like, you know, Bond, when he's not doing espionage, it's the swit-swoo, isn't it?
It's the down the casino.
It's the winky-winky.
I just mean a single wink, really.
Also joining us on the show is Stella Assange, who's related to...
By virtue of a marital ceremony, Julian Assange, who's banged up in Belmarsh, Nick, right now, is seemingly for revealing information that is at odds with the agenda of, you know, powerful government.
So we'll talk to Stella Assange next week.
So there's loads, loads of stuff that you ain't gonna get.
on the mainstream media.
We're going to do the best to tell you the truth.
We don't care who you are or where you came from.
We care about who you are now.
We care about bringing you together.
New unions.
Accessing unitary forces to a challenge.
Establishment.
Elite.
Power.
Someone's got to do it.
It's going to be you, isn't it?
Who else is going to do it?
Do you think that Joe Biden's going to do it?
Who's going to do it?
Who's going to help you?
Oh, oh, you've got to help yourself, don't you?
You're going to need some sort of system.
You're going to need a little bit of help.
All right, we're going to wrap this up now, but if you're a member of the Stay Free AF community, we're going to answer some of your questions in a minute.
To the rest of you, I'll see you later.
Join us on Monday for a fantastic week on Stay Free, our first full week.
Thanks for joining us this week.
Stay Free.
See you in a minute if you're part of the community.
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