Scott Adams and his co-hosts celebrate April 20th, 2026, reviewing astronaut Reed Wiseman's iPhone photo of Earth setting behind the Moon. They fear autonomous robots after Lightning beat Jacob Klimo in Beijing, discuss a 7.7 magnitude Japan earthquake near Fukushima, and analyze President Trump's executive order for psychedelic PTSD trials involving Joe Rogan. The conversation turns grim regarding ten missing scientists like Michael David Hicks, with Congressman Eric Burleson demanding an FBI investigation into foreign interference, while the episode concludes with U.S. forces disabling an Iranian cargo ship in the Strait of Hormuz, highlighting escalating global tensions. [Automatically generated summary]
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Happy 420 Moon News00:11:39
This thing to do so many things at once.
Look at it go.
Okay.
Owen's sliding in.
I dig it.
Good morning, everybody.
Happy 420.
Yes.
Happy, happy 420.
Oh my gosh.
Good morning, you guys.
So, as Marcella said, it's April 20th, 2026, otherwise known as Happy 420.
If you don't know, look it up.
So, Owen's just coming on here, all good.
You guys, we have so many topics to cover on a Monday with a whole fresh week ahead of us.
Good morning, Owen.
Good morning.
How are you?
Say it louder for me.
I said, How are you?
Oh, you sound so far away.
I'm good.
So, you guys, I don't know about you, but you guys will be happy to know I bought myself a new coffee heater for my mug, and it's right here.
And I'm going to be enjoying the hottest coffee throughout this show.
So, in order to do that, we need this first.
Well, I can see in the comments that there's something you're missing.
Doesn't it bother you?
Doesn't it bother you?
Your addiction is now so deep that you need the simultaneous sip, and all you need for that is a cup of margarine, a glass of tanker, Chalice or Stein, a canteen, a jugger flask, a vessel of any kind.
Fill it with your favorite liquid.
I like coffee.
And join me now for the dopamine hit of the day, the thing that makes everything better.
The simultaneous sip go.
Oh, yeah, that was that was kind of a good 420 clip in his spaceship and everything.
Yeah, I liked when he did those fake backgrounds, or maybe they were real, or was it real?
Yeah, we'll never know.
All right, you guys, so I hope everyone had a great weekend.
Owen, you were quite busy doing your spaces, uh, both days.
That was amazing.
How were they?
They went great.
Yeah.
A lot of people came and it was a great conversation.
So, as always, and Marcella, your weekend was good.
Yeah.
I just worked.
You know, that's what a lawyer does.
It's just work.
Bless you.
Same for me.
I think I spent the day in my pajamas yesterday, like sort of working, sort of like getting things done, but nothing exciting really happened.
So, if you are living vicariously through any of us, those were your options.
So good.
So, okay, I thought I'd start us off with a little bit of moon news.
We haven't done moon news in a while, and it's not really news, but the captain, oh my gosh, I almost forgot his name again, Reed Wiseman.
I don't know why his name escapes me.
So, he took this video with his iPhone during an earth setting.
So, instead of a sunset, it was an earth set, and it's pretty cool.
And he just said, like, never ever.
In a lifetime, did he ever think he'd see something like this?
So, what you're looking at is he's looking at the moon, and behind it is the earth as it's about to set behind the moon.
So, let's just take a look because we'll never see that, maybe.
And you can hear the camera shudder from the other astronaut she was taking.
Looks so pristine, dude, dude, no way.
There we go.
It's pretty cool.
So, I just thought I'd share that because we like to get a little moon news in when we can.
It's not every day you have news from the moon.
So, I was looking at the news stories that Owen was putting together and Marcella, and this one gave me nightmares, Marcella.
Oh, no.
That was okay.
Can I say I have a dream of winning that type of race?
And this can become.
It's possible now.
So go ahead and show.
All right.
It is possible.
And I would like to shout out Brian Romley for ruining my life with this.
But we're going to talk about the robot marathon on the other side of this horrific.
I'm giving you a trigger warning.
If you're nervous, here we go.
I can take this one.
That's me running, me getting out of bed.
And it was with humans on the other side.
Oh my God, you guys.
I could take on that head.
I would just kick it with everything I had.
But imagine them like running through our streets with like ARs.
That's what I picture.
I don't know about you.
Marcella, tell us what that was all about.
That was in Beijing, China.
And that was the half marathon, 13.1 miles.
And it was run with humans and robots at the same time.
The humanoid robot that one is called Lightning finished the E Town half marathon, it's called.
And it finished at 50 minutes and 26 seconds, which is a world record because it beat the world record of the human Jacob Klimo 57 minutes and 20 seconds.
So it beat it by seven minutes.
Wow.
So now I can just buy a robot.
Put my name tag on it and have it run, and I can win the marathon.
So that's my plan now.
So 100 robots ran this half marathon, different companies.
As we saw, the really little tiny one with the big head was cute.
So it was just an attempt to try new things.
What you call cute, I call terrifying.
Oh my God, that head.
I was like, do we need this head running?
Oh my gosh.
All right, Owen, could you take on these robots?
Well, first, I would clarify it's not a world record for humans.
I mean, to me, this is a different category of record.
It might be the world record for robots, but I don't know if I would count it.
I don't think you can.
Humanoid robot record.
Yeah, but I don't know.
I mean, I certainly think we're going to be seeing more of this in terms of capabilities coming out of robots.
And, you know, I understand why you're a little scared.
I mean, it could turn into the whole Terminator 2 sort of scenario where you've got this massive thing coming after you.
And I think police are already looking into use cases like this, mostly with the robot dogs at this point, but they're looking to chase down criminals with robots.
And right now, I think it's mostly just to surveil them and keep track of them.
But you never know when they might just move into having them do arrests.
I'm into the robot dogs, even.
Oh my God, imagine robot horses.
I get so, you guys, you know, I love animals.
I get so nervous when I see a dog or a horse like in a riot area or like there's guns or knives.
And I'm just like, you know, some psychopath's going to do something terrible and I can't stand it.
So I'd be in for letting those dogs just do something else than possibly get hurt or sniff out bombs.
So that would be kind of fun.
But yeah, so anyway, the robot thing terrifies me.
Greg Gutfeld, many, many, many years ago, is the one who started me on my journey of being terrified when we were at his show when it first started.
And during a commercial break, he was talking about this is so long ago before I even really understood anything about AI, but he was talking about AI and the robots.
And he said, you know, if you tell a robot your job is to go to every house, And get the cucumbers out of the refrigerator.
Like, that's your job.
And he was like, So, if they come to your house and you're in the way and you're like, No, you can't come in my house.
He's like, That thing just has one job get the cucumbers.
It has nothing to do with the people, the house, what's in your way.
It's just get the cucumbers.
And I'm like, Oh my God, I never thought about it that way.
You know, like, it has a mission.
And he's like, They'll end up killing you to get your cucumbers.
So, Greg sort of ruined my life like that.
And now that I've learned that these robots are like, Becoming sentient, and they're like teaching each other things, and they're doing workarounds, and they're re educating themselves and programming themselves.
I'm even more horrified.
Yeah, I mean, on one hand, it does amaze me how close we are now to Skynet and Terminator, and no one seems really that concerned about it.
Like, you know, Elon is doing this thing where he's putting all the data centers in space, and that looks almost exactly like Skynet, really.
It really is almost exactly that playbook, other than hopefully the part where it turns on us.
But, you know, it's like that's exactly the same technology and exactly the same sort of promises that were made when Skynet was launched in the Matrix movies.
And, um, You know, these robots are moving steadily in the direction of these Terminator sort of capabilities, and it just seems like nobody's really paying much attention to it.
And they're like getting together, Marcella, and they're like communicating with each other, and they're like, here's what we can do.
What are you for?
You probably love this.
I love this.
This is what I love.
This is, I want my own robot army.
I, you know, it can change our lives, you know, like if we have to fight a war, we no longer have to have anyone die, you know, it's kind of like easier.
I watch too much anime.
Too much Japan in me, so I'm all for it.
So, is everyone gonna like go out on the streets with their robot now?
I'm sure there'll be rules, you're so sure there'll be rules eventually.
There's always laws once we have deaths.
Once like 50,000 people die, they'll do something, yeah.
Robot Deaths and Laws00:05:18
Yeah, we we talked about this, right?
Oh, and we talked about the the first uh robot killing, the first uh whatever, you know, it's gonna happen.
It happened with cars.
It's even happening in the war context with everything in Ukraine, especially.
I think there was a story just recently that they're looking at replacing a bunch of their frontline soldiers with robots, something like 2,000 robots or some massive number of them.
And there's been other stories that it basically is like a killing field for humans if you go into the front lines in Ukraine now because it's just full of drones and robots and you can't survive.
So it's, I mean, that part of reality is already here.
It just hasn't been used anywhere else yet.
Yeah.
All right.
So that was your robot.
Robots read news, your robot news, your robots run marathons.
I mean, look at how they're progressing.
Okay, so you guys, I have to play.
This is like so out of order into things right now.
But let me skip that.
Let me just stay over here in this part of the world.
Okay, this is just really quick.
I do want to show this because this could become a big deal.
So, did you guys know there was an earthquake in Japan last night?
It was a 4.7 magnitude.
And Now they have all these tsunami warnings.
So I saw a video where the first tsunami waves are coming in.
And do you guys remember that tsunami?
What was that in Thailand?
It was like 100 years ago.
No, I was.
When was that?
Like in 2000 something, the early 2000s.
There was that.
2004, I think.
7.4, you guys.
7.4.
I'm sorry.
Magnitude 7.4 earthquake.
So now here's.
Here's the first wave coming in.
This is so scary.
So, this is the coast of Japan.
And that one that we saw years ago, that horror of hearing that the water went all receded all the way out and then this massive wave came in.
But look at all the structures right here.
I'm so worried for them.
Well, they had a tsunami in Japan, did, and where Fukushima was, you know, their nuclear power plant was destroyed.
And that's, you know, that was recent.
Yeah, that was recent.
Yeah.
So they were a little afraid.
Yeah, I mean, earthquakes are pretty scary with the water like that.
So just keep your eye on Japan.
Hope that they're okay.
What did you hear about it?
Well, it was actually a 7.7 earthquake magnitude.
I think maybe an earlier one was 4.5, and then another one at 4.9.
But I think there was a bigger one.
So we'll have to see what happens from the tsunami aspect.
But yeah, it looks pretty bad.
I mean, that's a pretty high magnitude.
Lang said it's just a fish delivery system.
So funny.
I'm glad I don't live near an ocean that's subject to those sorts of things.
Oh, flavor.
Oh, and do you know where it was in Japan?
It looks like it was on the east coast, from what I can see.
That it was like right sort of in the middle of the country, or if you measure it from top to bottom, and it looks relatively close to the coast.
So it doesn't look very far away, but it was offshore on the eastern coast.
Scary.
Another story I saw, Owen, that you were talking about today was President Trump is building that monument.
And is there controversy about it?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, of course, just like everything Trump does, there's lawsuits and they tried to stop it.
And an appeals court came in and said he can keep building things.
But I think certainly it's one of those things that anybody who.
Supports Trump thinks this is great, and some anybody who doesn't like Trump thinks this is the worst thing ever and doesn't want it to happen.
So it looks nice.
I think the controversy right now is more focused on the ballroom, but that's been allowed to proceed.
And so I think they're going through the same sort of thing with the monument.
But I don't understand why anyone would be opposed to it.
I mean, it seems like a perfectly fine thing, it seems like it fits in with the architectural scheme of things.
It doesn't seem out of place, and I'm not really sure what why anyone would be opposed to it.
We haven't had a new monument in a long time.
Like, why not have a new monument?
Yeah, Marcella, monument, ballroom.
Do you have an opinion either way?
Well, I mean, the monument, I think it was meant for the 250th year, whatever.
I don't know how fast they can build the arch, but it seems like time's ticking.
So I don't see why anybody would be opposed to it.
I guess just the roads would change.
There'd be more traffic, more tourists would want to.
The Monument Ballroom Debate00:02:40
Drive by there.
So maybe locals have an issue with the traffic.
Okay.
Just checking that out.
But it can bring money to DC.
Right.
Okay.
So now here's a little intermezzo before we get into some more serious stuff.
Just in case you needed to know this, we have a lesson from Scott Adams.
All right, here's a lesson on how to use one of these soap dispensers.
This is a method.
And it says open on the top, but it doesn't tell you if that's pressing or twisting or jiggling or pressing and twisting.
So if it's closed, and I find that I can only open them accidentally, and by that I mean I try everything and then something works, but I don't know why.
And so for maybe, I don't know, a decade or so, that's the only way I've been opening it.
It's like the random process.
But then if you have anybody else who uses your sink and uses the soap, I don't know who does it in my house, but for a decade, there's somebody, somebody who comes in the house and then closes it.
Now, to reopen it, it's different than when I first get it.
Because when I first get it, I'm like, hmm, I'll play with it until I figure out how to open it and make it produce soap.
But when I go to use it and somebody else has already closed it, usually you've got stuff in your hands and you don't want to pick it up and do the things you want to do.
So you're trying to sort of figure it out with one hand.
That's impossible.
So what you do, well, this is what I do.
I eventually I yell the F word really loudly, and then I take the whole thing and I throw it as hard as I can against some hard surface until it falls apart and the soap comes out.
And then I throw it away.
Then I buy a new one, and then when my hands are clean, I jiggle it and jiggle it and press it and jiggle it, and then eventually it opens.
Or sometimes I ask somebody else to do it, and they'll open it right away.
and they'll say how'd you do that how'd you do that oh stop stop don't walk away show me how you do that and usually they'll say well i'm not sure i just sort of jiggled it and just opened it so that's how you open it if it's new you jiggle it until it's open and you just try to guess you might get lucky once your hands are unclean if somebody closes it you should throw it against a hard surface and break it so you're not tempted to try to use it again and that's your lesson on soap That's great advice.
That is great advice.
Investigating Coincidence Claims00:16:06
Bravo.
You guys have always the most entertaining when Scott was struggling with his technology.
With anything, technology, even when it's technology, I mean, mechanical technology, but it's technology.
And who would close it, you guys?
So, a lot of times, if a cleaning company comes to your house to clean, they close them.
So, that's what happens.
They wipe them all down and they push and turn and they close them.
I don't know.
But anyway, even the soap, happy eye doc, even the soap got to him.
And then, for those that were asking in the comments, not that a tsunami and the robots weren't serious news, but it was a lack of a better word.
So I think I meant before getting on to more heavy news.
Okay.
So, other stories, Owen, that you posted that I wanted to talk about.
This one here was about.
The, oh, let's play the clip and then let's talk about it.
Hang on, here we go.
This was a historic day in America and a historic day for veterans, a historic day for modern medicine.
You know, if you think about it, we've got 6,000 veterans that are dying each year from suicide.
Many of them have mental illness.
The battle on the ground is over, but it still rages in their mind.
And they have trouble assimilating, they have trouble holding jobs, they have trouble being a good partner in the relationship.
They suffer from these mental conditions and they know it.
And there has been some.
Promising reports now from some of these treatments, like the one that you mentioned, in a broader class that we call medically serotonin 2A agonists, also known as psychedelics.
People have described being able to reconcile with things from the past.
We don't know exactly how they work, but the stories are dramatic.
We also have randomized controlled trials that show a 30 to 40% remission rate for some of these conditions, like PTSD, where nothing else really works well, and we've known that for a long time.
Yeah, Owen, I'll let you grab this one first.
Yeah, well, I mean, you might have noticed Joe Rogan in the background there.
I think it was probably a really meaningful thing for him.
I think that's an issue he's cared about.
He's had some guests on to talk about that at more length in terms of, you know, Ibogaine and some of the other therapies that they're looking into for veterans to help them with PTSD.
And so I think it's a great step in the right direction to help more human trials happen in this regard, which I think is the focus of the executive order, was to just increase the human trials.
Because it's been an area where, because of the way they've classified these drugs, They haven't been able to do the research.
And it's been kind of like this you'd never get funding, you'd never get any approvals to be able to do this kind of research.
And so I think this is meant to open that up, which I think is a great step.
I will say, just based on what I know, that there are certain dangers with these drugs.
It's not like everyone should go out and do these, especially if you don't have one of these conditions.
But even if you do, I've heard plenty of stories from people saying, like, people who take psychedelics who have schizophrenia or something like that could potentially have much worse.
Impacts versus someone who is mentally healthier.
But I think for certain conditions like PTSD and some of these traumas, it has been shown to be helpful in some of the testing they've done.
And I think we need more testing, and hopefully it'll lead to some kind of more approvals for being able to use these things to help people.
So I think it's a great step.
And I think it's something that no other president would have done just because it is such a taboo topic.
And so I'm really glad that Trump has shown the courage to do this.
Yeah, I like it too.
I mean, it kind of falls under where he would say, right to try.
I mean, if you're suffering like that, like our poor veterans that are suffering, it's already abysmal, the care that they're getting.
It's heartbreaking.
But, Marcella, what do you, you know, what do you, I like it personally because what if it works, right?
They're already in agony.
If it doesn't work, they're already in agony.
If it works, my God, like what could be better than that?
So, Scott would love this change.
He was always for this.
And it's also interesting that it's near 420.
So, that's lovely.
I think it's great to try new, more natural therapies.
You know, it's not all of them are fully natural psychedelics.
But this is not the executive order, it was not to approve these.
Like Owen said, it's just to give a pathway.
To have more research done on them.
And hopefully, it does create, because there's so much government involved in the FDA and DEA and all of that.
Hopefully, it does do what it's supposed to this executive order, and nobody will appeal it and so on and so forth, because the veterans and other people need these medicines.
So, Sophia, you know what?
I see what you're saying, and maybe this will help the veterans, you know.
However, and whatever happened, if we can help them, I think I heard Joe saying that 80% of people with one dose, one round, but it's with a medical team that they take it, are improved.
And then 90% with a second dose.
So, yeah, let's go.
Let's try it.
So, we do have some inklings of how it works.
I think a lot of these increase neuroplasticity, which basically means like if you're kind of stuck in a loop, which is what these PTSD sort of conditions are like.
It can break out of that.
And it might mean that it also would help with OCD and some of the other mental conditions that are like that, where you're kind of stuck in a particular way of thinking and you can't break out of it.
That I think some of these psychedelics will kind of open up your brain to rewire itself in a different way and let you heal yourself, essentially.
But they may not know the exact mechanism.
And, you know, one of my questions would be are we actually going to see this research for some of the things like psilocybin and LSD?
Because I would imagine there's no patents on them.
So there's no way a pharma company can really profit off of them.
So, I'm interested to see who follows up to do this research.
But I think this is an area where there's enough public support, enough people with some money behind it.
I know Tim Ferriss has donated a lot of money for this type of research.
And so, I think there are people with money that are willing to back this.
So, I'm hoping that'll come through and they'll be able to do the research they need to get the approvals.
Yeah.
And I think by the time you get to this point, you've kind of tried everything.
You know, you've gone to your therapy, you've done all the, you know, normal pathways that people tell you.
And besides just doping you up on more drugs, You know, and then you live like a zombie and nothing's, you know, better.
I, yeah, just if they can study this and there's like a direct correlation, and doesn't this also help?
And I think those GLP 1s also help with addiction.
So a lot of these people become addicted, you know, they're trying to cope and now they're addicted to drugs or alcohol or other substances or other vices.
So maybe this helps, you know, for other issues too.
I don't know.
Fingers crossed on it.
Um, I hope it's promising.
It seems like it is okay.
So, moving on from there, I really thank you guys that we have to talk and we're going to talk to other people down the road more about what's happening with these scientists that are missing.
Oh, and I saw you posted something, Marcella.
We've talked about this.
Um, I think it's pretty scary.
Let me just make sure I have the right clip, but let you guys hang in there with me.
This clip's a little bit longer, but.
I want to see on that.
Marcella and I have a different take of maybe what could be happening, and we know nothing.
So, honestly, we're just speculating, or do we?
But let's take a look because this needs more attention.
I hope this is the right one.
If not, I'll readjust.
Hopefully, I don't know, coincidence, whatever you want to call it, but some of them were very important people, and we're going to look at it over the next.
So, take a look.
The White House now probing the disappearances of the people behind me, the deaths of 10 scientists at least.
Let's break down some of the cases.
For example, let's look at Michael David Hicks.
He dies at the age of 59 years old.
And David Michael Hicks, a longtime JPL scientist involved in asteroid and comet research, no public cause of death given.
And then you have a situation like Monica Reza.
Monica Reza vanished while hiking under weird circumstances.
And then you have William Neil McCaslin.
This guy disappeared in February, deep ties to the Air Force research programs.
So, everyone has a bit of a mystery to their passing, and people are wondering with the very similar backgrounds extremely bright people, extremely successful people, extremely valuable people is this all related?
As you heard, the president can't say yes or no publicly yet, but the mystery remains.
Let's bring in House Oversight Committee member, Missouri Congressman Eric Burleson, who is calling for the FBI to get involved.
Congressman, when did you first find out about this?
My office found out about it last year.
We sent a letter to the FBI about a gentleman named Matthew Sullivan.
Who actually we had reached out to.
He was scheduled to come in for an interview.
Within two weeks, he had suspiciously committed suicide.
That report was referred to the Office of Inspector General.
They deemed it credible and urgent.
They then referred it to the FBI.
So this is not the first that we've heard of this.
That was the first that we became aware of.
The President was briefed extensively yesterday, and he's worried about it.
We hear about all this.
We also know we're in a big time race with China for all this, too.
And then people wonder about the undisclosed UFO program that more and more people are pushing to get answers on.
Is there a relation to any of that from what you could share with us?
There certainly is.
So, General McCaslin, for example, is someone that we had reached out to twice to try to get some answers from.
He is someone who has a critical role in working for the Air Force, particularly when it came to research.
He was the one that oversaw a lot of this advanced research.
He was someone that was very difficult to get a hold of, but we reached out to him twice and then he just mysteriously disappeared.
You know what's a wonder?
If one person disappears, we see press conferences and we see people and mysterious deaths.
We would see family members.
Why haven't we heard more from family members and associates about their concern?
Yeah, I don't know, Brian.
I wish we would.
But look, what's really disturbing when you look back and reflect on it, you've got Monica Reza, you've got Anthony Chavez, you've got Melissa Cassius, and you have Stephen Garcia, all of which, along with General McCaslin, walked out of their homes, or in the case of Mrs. Reza, she disappeared on a hike without their phones.
They just literally disappeared, left all of their devices at home.
This is not normal.
These are some of the most advanced scientists, researchers in our nation.
Some of the most important people for a nation's national security efforts, and they all just mysteriously disappeared.
So, I mean, this does have all the hallmarks of some type of international or foreign effort because we're in competition on nuclear.
We're in competition on advanced weaponry.
We're in competition on getting to the moon.
And who are you in competition with?
China, Russia, Iran.
So, that brings, if there's anything worthy of an all hands on deck investigation, this seems to be it.
This is a rattling call to pay attention to this issue.
And make sure that our nation's top scientists are safe and secure.
This is too coincidental.
And so we have to be investigating this.
We need to have our nation's top investigators, the FBI, and every agency looking into this matter.
Eight have been found missing or dead since 2025.
So this is only going to grow.
In fact, I know one of the scientists that came out and said they thought that they were being threatened and stalked.
Yeah, we've heard that from multiple cases where they've been, that they've all felt some form of threat.
And lastly, is this something Democrats and Republicans can get behind together?
Absolutely, Brian.
My office is leading a joint effort with Democrats.
This is a bipartisan issue where we're leading a letter to the FBI to make sure that they address this issue and properly investigate this.
Yeah, I would love to see press conferences with some of their colleagues who probably share your concern.
Congressman, thanks so much.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
Owen, I'm going to come to you first, but you guys, isn't that crazy?
I just, you know, I see people saying there are no coincidences.
Scott said there aren't.
I am, I'm just shook because when you just put them all together, and there might be even a few more we don't know about yet.
And it is weird.
Why isn't the family talking?
I don't know, you know, maybe they were told to zip it, but I saw so many people in the chat having different takes on who it could be, what it could be.
Owen, you start.
I already.
I mean, it certainly looks suspicious to me.
I mean, I think when you get to some count like 10 or 11 or more, you know, it starts to look like there must be some connection between some of these.
I think there probably are some that might just end up being coincidences, but it does seem like a pretty long stretch to say all of these are just unrelated random things that happened.
And, you know, when someone disappears, that's not just like somebody committed suicide.
The suicides.
I think we've had enough instances of these suspicious suicides in the recent past that it's not necessarily always what it appears to be, even if it's ruled a suicide for whatever reason.
I don't remember the nursing's name, but I remember there was that one case where a person was stabbed like 50 times or something.
Yeah, suicide.
I think that was in Pennsylvania where Shapiro seemed to be involved with covering it up.
But it does seem to me like there's probably something here.
And I've thought myself that with.
Our efforts to take out some of the nuclear scientists in Iran, there certainly might be a motive to retaliate and to take out some of our scientists.
And, you know, we talked about how there could be sleeper cells all over the place, and this might be an example of it.
And I've heard people speculate that espionage is probably the most likely thing if there is some nefarious thing going on here.
So definitely something to be worried about.
But again, we don't have any real evidence yet.
So we'll have to see what the FBI can come up with.
Yeah, it is getting a lot more attention now.
And, you know, so I'm glad about that.
I'm glad that the reporters are.
Actually, like putting it out there when they're talking to Trump.
Marcella, you have an interesting perspective.
I mean, what do we know?
But what do you think?
You know, it's good that we're looking into it because you never know, right?
Espionage vs Random Events00:04:26
There was a university professor, I think nuclear scientist or something like that, was recently killed.
They thought, you know, it was this man that killed two of them.
It was some kind of rivalry.
I don't remember the exact story, but the issue about the 10 or 11 scientists or nine scientists, however you want to say it, they happen at different years, different times.
I personally think it's kind of like the syndrome of when you buy a white car, you see a white car all over the place, the same car that you bought.
You're seeing things connect when they really aren't connected.
But one of the things that may come out of this is that, and I was telling this to Erica in the green room, that A lot of the scientists that work for JPL, I know a lot of them because my brother used to work there.
Two of my brothers, one of the oldest.
JPL is Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, and it's NASA, it's owned by NASA, and it's basically lots of really smart people, scientists work there.
And a lot of the people that work in this type of job have a lot of issues with depression.
They have also, they lack families as well because their whole entire persona, their whole entire life is their scientific job.
Not all of them, of course, but there are some that do have those issues.
You know, it's kind of like how many missing FedEx delivery men are out there?
You know, it's like how many scientists are there in the world?
And then we find these 10 cases.
So to me, it's important for this to be investigated.
Maybe we'll find out that some of these people did actually.
Commit suicide because there is a problem.
One of the things that I found out, this is separate and apart from scientists, is that one of the leading, like the leading cause of police officers dying is not being shot on the job, but committing suicide.
Because I had a police officer friend that committed suicide and I had no idea that that was like a thing, you know?
So I think it needs to be looked into.
The hikers, you know, that's the other thing.
If you're leaving your phone behind, maybe you're trying to do something to yourself while in a hike.
You know, like they talked about this woman that she was really smart and everything else.
And most women would take their phone with them on a hike unless you're thinking of not coming back.
Like you don't want to be trapped or something.
Or maybe you want to commit suicide.
What if they maybe turned like traitorous and they got like good offers from Beijing?
Yeah.
They were like, oh, I got an offer I can't refuse.
I do not want to think that of these people.
Okay.
I'm just saying, maybe.
And Montreal Galaxy said, Marcella, many of these people declared they were not suicidal and they were being threatened.
So, yeah.
You know, I think the thing is that it's so many within a short window, which is like really what's.
You know, getting a lot of the attention.
But yeah.
Okay, let's see.
All right.
So there's definitely going to be more on that, you guys.
A lot of people are covering it.
I see a lot of it on X.
So we'll bring you any updates we find.
Maybe when we get the great Mr. Walter Kern back on, this is something that is very intriguing for him and he's talking about it a lot.
So maybe we can chat for a few minutes with him about that.
I'll let you know when that's coming.
Okay, so it wouldn't be a Monday without talking about Iran.
And I don't know where that came from, but it was a segue nonetheless.
So, again, my last clip of the day, okay, guys, pertaining to what's going on with the Strait and Iran and us.
Here we go.
Yeah, hey, guys, good morning.
Iranian Ship Naval Blockade00:00:38
Overnight, CENTCOM announced that U.S. forces seized an Iranian flagged cargo ship.
That was attempting to breach the naval blockade.
President Trump announced the seizure on True Social, saying the Iranian crew refused to listen, so our Navy ship stopped them right in their tracks by blowing a hole in the engine room.
Right now, U.S. Marines have custody of the vessel.
The ship remains in U.S. custody.
Here's what it sounded like when the guided missile destroyer USS Spruance warned the cargo ship before firing.
Vessel Tosca, Voto Vessel Tosca, vacate your engine room.